February 13, 2025 • 33 mins
Today, I'm joined with Author Jaylon Martin. He shares about his NEW BOOK I Talk To Horses, which is a personal testament about his battle with alcoholism.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Welcome back to another episode of Kicking Wikiki, Life, Love
and all that other ship. I am your host, Kiki Chanel,
Award winning author, lifestyle blogger and owner of nineteen Lifestyle Magazine.
The overall theme for Kicking and Wikiki is all about
sharing stories and experiences with the readers and the listeners
of the podcast and the platform. Today, I am joined
(01:02):
with a special guest. He is one of the writers
of nineteen Lifestyle magazine and he is here's to talk
about his upcoming new book. I like to give my
guests the opportunity to introduce themselves, So Jalen, go ahead
and tell the people who you are and what you do. Hi.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
My name is Jalen Martin. I go by Jalen J.
Martin when releasing books. I'm a spoken word author. I
also do other genres as well, such as ti fi, horror, fantasy.
Basically anything that targets young adult and new adult. And
I'm here to talk about my new book, I Talk
to Horses, which will be releasing on February seven.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
All right, congratulations, Look, Jalen, I we go back a
long time. I met him when you first started writing.
Like she was still in high school when I met you.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I'm still in high school. I was in in my
junior year of high school when you and I first met.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yes, So congratulations, I know it's been a long rong.
We're gonna get into all things, Jalen. We're going to
talk about your new project that you have coming up
that's releasing. I love the title Why I Talk to Horses? Okay,
So tell the listeners the inspiration behind the book.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Okay. So I chose the title I talked to Horses
because I've been doing equin therapy. So, for those guys
who don't know, equon therapy is therapy that incorporates horses.
There's a ranch in South Louisiana I visit called I'm
Mister Ranch who has horses that they let people use
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equin therapy for. So I started back in April of
twenty twenty four last year. When I first started visiting,
there were I think the ranch has a total of
twenty horses, that includes the ponies that have yet to
grow into horses, and as of right now, there are
a few of them that are pregnant, so the population
(03:01):
for the horses there could possibly grow. So there's this
one horse, the horse on the cover. His name is Bo.
So when the first day I started doing equon therapy,
once I started finish feeding him the apples and the
carrots that I had because that's the only thing I
knew about horses at the time, but they love eating
apples and carrots. So once he finished eating, he followed
(03:23):
me around all over the ranch and I'm like, hey,
I don't have anything else. But there was like there
was an instant connection between that horse and I and
it didn't matter like if I had anything or not,
Like it was there was something about me and there's
something about that horse, like we were drawn together. And
ever since then, like I come back every month. I
(03:45):
even started up in my visits to like twice a month,
so the connection could grow even more. Like me and
that horse have become best friends. Honestly, there's many videos
I post on my tiktoks where we go on our
walks and we have our communications. So the title is
all about how equin therapy has healed me from traumas
(04:07):
of the past, especially from college to conquering addiction. So
equin therapy has healed me from a lot of wounds
that have happened in the past year or so.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Wow, and I love that. And so what what would
be like a daily process of the equin therapy, Like
when you go and have your your your moment with
your best friend. Both just tell us what a day
in a life of that entails.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It is, So it's like straight off of a movie.
So of course me and Bo have our tongue. But
the thing about horses, they feel just like we do,
and they feel strongly too. There are other horses who
tend to get jealous when I show both more attention,
so I have to show at so I have to
take a break from both sometimes to give attention to
(04:56):
the other horses. So there's these two twin donkey their
name Kitten Cash full grown donkeys, and you got to
show those two some attention because they get really jealous
and they're really needy. So sometimes I find myself having
to bring a separate bag just for kitten Cash, like
a separate bag of carrots because sometimes the other horses
(05:19):
out eat all of them. Because when I visit the
ranch like before Christmas, so that's my Christmas gift of
the horses. I'm like, hey, like I had like a
whole bunch of bags just feeding like every horse and
pony I possibly could. But there was this one pony
named Ainslie who was out eating everybody and kitting cash.
They were like stumping their hoods as of like hey,
(05:42):
like you ate yours, like now it's our turn, and
so like kitten Cash that got like really jealous, and
I told them, I'm like, okay, next time you're you're
gonna have your own bags since another pony ate everything
I had for y'all. So it's like a it's like
a sense of comedy and it's like like a slice
of life at the same time, like they know. The
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horses know. They know when you're happy, they know when
you're side. One thing I started doing on my walk
to bou is I tend to sing to him. He
loves music, so when I sing him a happy song,
he tends to like move his mane from side to side.
He has a little groove on him and when I
sing something inside, bo put his entire head on me
(06:26):
as of like are you okay? Like it's it's completely
mind blowing up. Sometimes I find myself tearing up when
I visit them because I'm just like wow. Because the
thing is, horses tend to feel more than people do.
And the thing about horses this they love blindly, like
they don't really care like who you are, They just
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love you in an instant. So that's what has made
like this experience and writing this book so powerful, Like
out of all the this is my sixth book, so
out of all of the books I've written, I can
say I talked to horse bees possibly my favorite one
to date.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Okay, And I was gonna ask you that do you
have a favorite, but you just told us that you
have a favorite.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I love that you took the experience to share with
other people because you could have kept that all to yourself,
especially when you were in your on your healing journey
trying to overcome all of the trauma. When is the
release date? I mean you told us, you told us
February seventh, So where can readers purchase a copy of
(07:31):
your book?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Readers can purchase a copy on Amazon dot Com. The
title will be available on that date, and I'm having
surprisingly like, with this being my sixth book, I'm actually
going to be having my first book launch party ever
the Saturday and right after the release date, some one
of my friends is starting her own bookshop and I'll
(07:53):
be the first author to have a signing there, and
I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Nice, that's amazing. Yes, So okay, let's let's let's get
into what do you want readers to take away on
learn by reading?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I talk to hearsts, so there's a bit of a
deep sensitive subject matter. So I called this book the
unintentional sequel to my previous poetry book, Recovery Ride, which
centers around me going through alcoholism in college. So I
talked to Horses basically serves as that unintentional sequel. So
(08:30):
Recovery Ride is basically healing from the alcoholism. I talked
to Horses as healing from the source. Because the thing is,
God tends to show you things that He gives you
bits and pieces until you're able to see the big picture.
Because at the time when I was writing Recovery Ride,
I thought, okay, alcohol the acoholism was bad, but it
(08:53):
wasn't the thing that was destroying my life. So me
sobering up. By the way, I'll be making two years
sober this year on mayfist congratula.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Thank you, thank you. So alcoholism in college youth is
not common at all, considering like eighteen year olds to
like twenty one year olds with being home away from home,
it actually happens way more than you think. And so
(09:26):
basically talking about like the source, basically God had me
sober up visit this ranch in order to show me
like the false wizard behind the curtains. If you can
understand that matter, yes. So what I want readers to
take away from this is healing is a process. So
when I wrote Recovery right, I thought, Okay, I'm healed.
(09:50):
But the thing is, once I left MacNeice with my degree,
although I left with a degree, but I was also
leaving with a broken heart. Still there was still a
lot of trauma that I still had to unpack. What
readers need to take away from this is you can't
rush the healing process. Sometimes there will be a way
for you to heal in ways that you never expected,
(10:13):
like I never thought I would be going to a
ranch and bonding with a bunch of horses in order
for me too properly healed. But I'm glad it happened
that way. I still visit the ranch to this very date.
So basically, healing is a step by step process, and
it is slow. It's not fast at all. If I
tell y'all it was fast, I'd be lying to you.
(10:35):
It's a slow burn, but it is worth it. Sometimes
it takes a year, some types it takes multiple years,
but you have to have patience yourself in order to
feel it until you feel completely healed.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Absolutely, And it's amazing how the books came full circle
because Recovery Ride, I talk the horses like, did you
have like an inkling of that was gonna happen in
your life? Were you going to the ranch prior to that,
or you know, before you wrote Recovery Rout.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
So when I wrote Recovery Right, I was in my
final semester at Magnice. I had no idea I would ever. Honestly,
when once I finished writing Recovery Ride, I didn't really
see myself writing anything again because I was so terrified
releasing this book because of the subject matter. I was worried.
Oh my god, I'm like twenty two years old, like
(11:34):
people tell me all the time, like, oh my god,
you're like you went through alcoholism, but you're so young.
But like I said, addiction does not discriminate. It could
look like anybody, it can happen to anyone. But college
college is basically the heart of addiction. So I would
not I did not know I would even write an
(11:55):
unattentional sequel to Recovery Rod. And this book acts like
that in a way, but at the same time it
stands as its own thing. It talks about how like
the horses have healed me from so much, such as
my pasts with addiction, this place that I was once
a part of, that I found myself having to get
out of because this place did not serve my purpose
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in life at all. And it talks about friendship, breakups,
breakups in general, anxiety, thing on topics like that. And
the Ranch basically serves as like this anchor towards the
healing that with the horse, not just the horses, but
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the horses, the donkeys, the ponies, like basically the ranch
in general. Sometimes you have to change your environment in
order to experience something new, because just being like out
in like the open, it's it's absolutely refreshing because sometimes
when you're like in the city, it can be a
bit cramped. So changing like your environment plays a part
(13:01):
in that as well.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I love that you say that because that is so true.
You cannot find elevation in the comfort zone. Yes, you
have to branch out, and sometimes it's you're isolated. You
have to go through your healing journey alone until you're
strong enough to tell someone your story without it feeling
like a weight on you again. And that's how you
(13:26):
you know that I am beginning the process. I can
form this sentence and tell people that I was going
through this and I was at a dark place without
breaking down and going back to that place. So thank you,
thank you for sharing, saying sharing your story like I'm not,
I don't want to. I don't want to give away
anything because I want you guys to go and get
the books and support him and read about his journey.
(13:48):
But let's let's talk about what motivated you to get sober.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
What motivated me? So we're gonna backpedalle a little bit.
So what motivated me against so was at a college party.
I found myself drinking a lot of tequila. And I
don't know if any of y'all like had tequila before,
but when you drink tequila, it feels like you're insides
(14:15):
are on fire. This was like the most painful thing
I've ever experienced. Like I drunk so much of it
that I blacked out. I didn't remember. I don't I
don't remember to this day, I still don't remember things
that happened that night. It was horrifying. Like some people
tend to these days, people tend to joke like, oh,
I got so drunk, like I don't remember what happened.
(14:38):
Like to me personally, there's nothing really funny about that,
because there could be it could be absolutely horrifying. So
that party, like apparently like I said some things to
some people that was absolutely harsh, and I'm like, this
is not who I am. I don't want to feel
like this anymore. And that's what prompted me to get sober,
(14:59):
because that was not who Jalen was. I don't know
who that person was whenever he would drink himself silly,
but that wasn't him. But it wasn't just at the parties.
I found myself at a place around like a group
of people who weren't for me at all, and it
felt me and it made me feel powerless, to the
(15:21):
point I would go to the alcohol in order to
numb myself, to just not feel anything, because I was like,
you know what if none of these people can feel
anything I'm feeling, maybe I'm crazy, maybe I'm like gaslighting myself.
So I would just turn to the alcohol. The drinking
was so bad that the only thing I would have
in my mini fridge was an empty bottle a Margherita
(15:45):
midst It would sit there in my fridge for months.
I don't know why I didn't get rid of it,
like sooner. It just stayed. It just stayed there. I
don't know why to this day, but that is that's
what happened.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Oh wow. See, recognizing that you didn't like the person
that you were becoming on the alcohol. That takes a
lot of inner self like you have self reflection and accountability,
and a lot of people don't want to have that.
They blame other people or they're blaming on the alcohol.
(16:21):
Not realizing that you were self medicating to cover up
something else, Like you said you you didn't like the
way the people that was in your circle made you
feel so you wanted to numb it and hurt people,
hurt people, and it goes. I don't think it was
about you at all. It was they were so numb,
are broken or unhealed that they say, you know what,
(16:43):
let me take that, Let me take it off me
and put it on somebody else to make them feel
low because I'm already low. Yes, yeah, and it's sad
that you have to deal with that, but I thank
God for allowing you to make it through, to share
your story inspire somebody else. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And the thing is, I couldn't when I wrote Recovery right,
and even when I wrote wrote I talked to horses.
This is These are things like I can't just sit on.
I know other people would like just sit on it
and try to move on with their life the best
they can. But the thing is, so much had happened
and I've experienced so much that I would honestly wouldn't
(17:23):
forgive myself if I know there's somebody out there who
went through the same thing I went through, and I
may be holding a solution to their problem, and like
just not share it like I would I have to.
I feel like I had to share it the best
way I possibly can.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Absolutely, and when you know that you have arrived to
your purpose, you realize that it's biggerting you. Yes, so
you know you your recovery is bigger thing you and
it's going to impact so many lives. I just I
cannot wait to watch the journey and just smile and
say Jayla when he first started, and I'm seeing you
(18:04):
grow and grow and it's just a beautiful thing to
see the smile on your face. And it's like, you know,
I would, I would think about you often and then
I'll see you pop up where you posting something. I
was like, okay, Jayla's still doing it and stuff like that,
because you know, we started following each other on social media,
so I have been there watching from the sidelines, cheering
(18:24):
you own. When you posted that you were graduating and
your graduation pictures, I was like, yes, you know, because
you could allowed your your addiction to keep you from
getting your degree and a lot of people do that.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yes. And to finish line, I was right off the
finish line and I'm like, ain't no way it stops
right here. That's basically what I told myself.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, yes, And I wanted to ask, did you have
like a support system with your family or did you
not tell them about what was going on? Oh?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yes, Oh yes, I'm glad you. I'm glad you asked up.
My family has a driving force for me ever since
this journey began on May fifth, twenty twenty three. They
supported me getting help. They supported me wanting to change
my friend group because like, no, like people, even like
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people in my family, like my grandparents and my mom.
They would tell me this person, that's something not right
about this person. I wouldn't be able to see what
they were seeing because like I'm just blinded by the
perception this person was showing to me. But once, like
I was actually once I was sitting down and like
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trying to recover the people who I was, who was
the cause of me drinking was nowhere to be found.
I couldn't get their support, I couldn't get their love.
There was even some who were mad at me that
I stopped, that I stopped drinking because like I wasn't
going to be like partying with them anymore. And I'm
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just like I don't want to do that anymore because
the thing is what I learned about addiction. When people
see that side of you, they're going to remind as
many people as they possibly can about that. Because I
saw this. I saw this post and it was on Facebook,
and it still sits with me to this day. It said,
the reason why people constantly talk about the past few
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because they have no access to the new you. Because
the person who like you're looking at right now, who
you're talking to, those people from the past, they have
no access to any of this because God made the
block button for a reason. And two, like when you,
when you finally experience true peace, you have every right
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to protect that and the best way is possible. And
I'm so overprotective with my peace that I refuse to
let anybody from the past, or anybody affiliated with anybody
in my past to try to access that and shrip
that away from me. I've worn't too hard.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That yes, that you just said, that's a beautiful thing.
It's a beautiful feeling, and you cannot understand it until you've.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Gone through it. I've gone through it.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So I'm over here like shaking my head because I
feel everything that you say. I feel the same exact way,
like nothing is more important to me than my piece, Yes,
because the fight was so hard. To look at you
now and say, oh, you're so strong, You're so strong,
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but not realizing that those dark nights are there, dark
days which on you light. I'm not letting you go
like smothering you, trying to strip you from your life.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Despite me sobering up to this day, to this day,
even with the equine therapy and even like I'm just
regular therapy, to this day, I still have nightmares about
that party that night, because it's horrifying when you just
fog out and you just remember and all you have
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is everybody else's words. It's to this day it's still horrifying,
And to this day, to all those people in my past,
I'm still known as the boy who got drunk on
Senco Demayo. They don't know about Jalen becoming, Jalen graduating,
Jalen becoming an author, Jalen releasing a sixth book. All
they know is about the person that got drunk at
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Cicco Demayo. That's all they know, that's all they have
access to, that's all they remember. And honestly, I'm fine
with that because with what I have gained from like
this ranch and what I've what I with the bond
I have with Bo, It's better than anything I can
experience from any person from my past. So that version,
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that old version of my stuff, they can they can
keep it. They can honestly keep it. And it doesn't
bother me to this day that the tall tale of
Jalen Martin the college drunk, it still spins around because
I have degree. I'm not there anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
So right, absolutely, and good for you, Jalen. I'm glad
that you didn't get stuck in it and allow it
to affect you, affect you in a way where you
relapse because it happens.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Oh yes, absolutely, So.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
You mentioned something earlier. I want you to elaborate on
this a little bit. Recognizing your slice of life. How
important is it to recognize your slice of life? So
someone who may be listening and don't understand that, can
you just break it down what you were talking about
when you said it earlier.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Recognizing that slice of life. So what I mean by
that is you will actually feel when weights have been
taken off your shoulders. I remember one time when I
visited the ranch one day, like I was just walking
with Ba and just like talking talking to him so
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little sidetrack brief like when you talk to worthless, they understand,
They absolutely understand. So one day I was talking to
him and it just hit me. This is when I
feel that slights of life. I'm like, this is all
I ever wanted, just someone something to stay by me
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blindly and just see me grow, because that's all I
ever wanted from the people of the past, just to
see me grow. But they didn't want to see me grow.
And it just hits me, like, Wow, an animal is
willing to show more love and compassion than a human being.
And that's when I actually felt that, because sometimes when
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you're in that moment, you kind of compare and contrast.
I'm just like, wow, like this, this animal, who even
though I can't like actually talk back to me with words,
could actually show more care and generosity and passion and
support more than a human being who can actually talk
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like right, it's a It's amazing to me.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yes, And I want to say to someone who may
be listening to haven't found their slice of life, take
some time to sit with yourself, take some time to
learn who you are, and learn the things that you
like and those little slices of life will start to
manifest in your life.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Still.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
You know, it's almost like having an Aha moment. I
really like apples over oranges. I really like drinking water,
or going outside and putting my feet in the sand
or dirt or something like that. You would know that
it is a part of your slice of life when
you experience it.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yes, some people think some people think I'm crazy for this,
but my family commends me for it. But the ranch
has changed me like so much. I even changed my
eating dot so ever since this year, I've begun. I
have become a full on tescatarian, So I no longer
eat beef or pork. They say pork is bad for
you anyway, Oh yes, I mainly just stick to seafood
(26:03):
because like there was one day, like I was looking
at like some bacon in the Frish and I'm just like,
I really really don't want this, like even like with
the frozen burger patties and all that, and I'm just like,
I really don't want this anymore. And so far, I'm
loving it so far, Like it just feels like I've
become like a new person and I'm still I'm still growing.
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The thing about transformation is that it gradually happens over time.
But once you start feeling that transformation, you're just like wow,
like I want to experience more of this, Like I
hope this never ends, and you'll be in luck because
transformation never ends. You're finding more things about yourself as
you go along. And that's probably the best feeling in
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the world.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
It really is. It really is. And so I know
you talked about that dreadful night, but how has been
sober impacted your life?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Being sober has got me closer to my faith, to myself.
And I've gotten so strong to the point as if
I if I'm like with some people and if they do,
like have a drink, it doesn't bother me at all.
And I have such a strong support group that they
always ask me. They always ask me, oh my God,
(27:21):
like I forgot, I forgot? Are you Are you okay
with me having a dream? And I'm like, go ahead, injury, like, enjoy,
enjoy your enjoy yourself. Because that's how strong I've gotten
in my sobriety. But when it was beginning that summer
of twenty twenty three, it was hard. It was so hard,
like even like if something slide. It ticked me off.
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I would want to drink, but I couldn't have and
I couldn't find a way to access that, and I
would just like find myself sweating, like the withdraws were
real and they were rough, and my family would be like, Jaylen,
you gotta get through this. Friends were like, Jalen, you
got to get through this. It was. It was so painful,
(28:06):
and I wouldn't wish this one anybody. It's it's the
worst feeling. Well, once you beat it, it's it's the
most amazing feeling ever. It's rewarding because it shows like
you are more powerful than any trial and tribulation.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Absolutely, I love that, Jalen. I love that. So what's
next for you? Besides the book release? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I have a whole bunch of projects in the works,
from sci fi to fantasy. So I've written my first
sci fi trilogy when I was in eighth grade, so
I was looking through like my old books and everything.
I'm very proud of teenage Jalen. But I'm actually planning
on rewriting and republishing that sci fi trilogy because I
(28:53):
feel like my first book series. Dessers, the writer I
have become. So I've been like looking through that trying
to find ways to like flesh out the story and
the character development in order to give it that full
star power that I know that it can even have
than ever before.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I love that. I love this. See. I love when
you when as you grow as a person, you want
to just put out your best, so you go back
and and revisit that so that you can do that. Yes,
I love that. I love that. So tell the listeners
how they can connect with you. So I know you
hang out on the social media streets, but tell the
listeners how they can connect with you.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
So I actually have two instagrams. One Instagram is the
Spoken Stallion and the other one which is mainly my
author page is The Stallion of Stories. And I also
have a Facebook page for that. I do my office
stuff as well called Jalen J. Martin the Author. And
I'm very active on TikTok hopefully TikTok space because I
(29:57):
love my TikTok but I know yes in case of
TikTok stays on. My TikTok page is the Spoken Stallion
as well, and you can also connect with me on LinkedIn.
My name is Jayla Martin.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But before we get out of here, do you have
like any words of encouragement, empowerment, motivation for the listeners today.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
So my word of encouragement is where I learned. When
I was writing, I talked to horses. Like every single poem.
It's to basically just feel your feels. Because when it
came to writing Recovery Rod, there were a lot of
things that I was trying to avoid writing on. But
when you're a writer, putting your pain on paper is
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the only way to get through it. But if you're
not a writer, I definitely recommend it. Put that pain
on paper because trust me, I've written I kind of
embraced my enter Taylor Swift, my students tell me and
I just write down but everything that has given me
like a broken heart. And also I find myself not
(31:06):
writing it in such a vain manner. When it comes
to writing things like about the people of my past,
I wrote it in a way showing like I forgive
them while acknowledging, Hey, what you've done is was pretty
screwed up. But I forgive you because this is me
taking a big step forward. So I leave off today, Stam.
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Once you make that big step. Don't look back so
in a way that I say about it and I
talk to horses. Once you get on that statle and
ride off to the sun stuff, that light is all
you're going to see. And keep riding into that.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Light, keep riding into that light. I love that. I
love that. So Jalleen, thank you so much for coming
and kicking with me today.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
It has been absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I wish you continued success. You know I'm here for you.
If you ever need to talk or anything else, you
know I'm down for you. We don't very often, but
you know you got somebody in your corner. Oh. Absolutely, Yeah,
it's absolutely But you guys have been listening to another
episode of Kicking It Wikiki Life, loving all that other shit.
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I am back with the new episode every Thursday. Say
make sure you tap in follow us on social media
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into that sunset, like right into the sunset. Happen to
finding your slice of life and know that you deserve
it regardless of what has happened in your past. You
have the ability and the power to overcome it. It
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is hard, but they have professionals that will will help
you along the way, and you have to do what
Jaylen said. Have a support system that will be in
your corner, that will recognized, Hey, let me just make
sure that he's okay before I take this drink or
whatever it may be. In your case, I'm here as well,
so you can always reach out to me kicking Wikiki
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Welcome back to another episode of Kicking Wikiki, Life, Love
and all that other ship. I am your host, Kiki Chanel,
Award winning author, lifestyle blogger and owner of nineteen Lifestyle Magazine.
The overall theme for Kicking and Wikiki is all about
sharing stories and experiences with the readers and the listeners
of the podcast and the platform. Today, I am joined
(01:02):
with a special guest. He is one of the writers
of nineteen Lifestyle magazine and he is here's to talk
about his upcoming new book. I like to give my
guests the opportunity to introduce themselves, So Jalen, go ahead
and tell the people who you are and what you do. Hi.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
My name is Jalen Martin. I go by Jalen J.
Martin when releasing books. I'm a spoken word author. I
also do other genres as well, such as ti fi, horror, fantasy.
Basically anything that targets young adult and new adult. And
I'm here to talk about my new book, I Talk
to Horses, which will be releasing on February seven.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
All right, congratulations, Look, Jalen, I we go back a
long time. I met him when you first started writing.
Like she was still in high school when I met you.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I'm still in high school. I was in in my
junior year of high school when you and I first met.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yes, So congratulations, I know it's been a long rong.
We're gonna get into all things, Jalen. We're going to
talk about your new project that you have coming up
that's releasing. I love the title Why I Talk to Horses? Okay,
So tell the listeners the inspiration behind the book.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Okay. So I chose the title I talked to Horses
because I've been doing equin therapy. So, for those guys
who don't know, equon therapy is therapy that incorporates horses.
There's a ranch in South Louisiana I visit called I'm
Mister Ranch who has horses that they let people use
(02:41):
equin therapy for. So I started back in April of
twenty twenty four last year. When I first started visiting,
there were I think the ranch has a total of
twenty horses, that includes the ponies that have yet to
grow into horses, and as of right now, there are
a few of them that are pregnant, so the population
(03:01):
for the horses there could possibly grow. So there's this
one horse, the horse on the cover. His name is Bo.
So when the first day I started doing equon therapy,
once I started finish feeding him the apples and the
carrots that I had because that's the only thing I
knew about horses at the time, but they love eating
apples and carrots. So once he finished eating, he followed
(03:23):
me around all over the ranch and I'm like, hey,
I don't have anything else. But there was like there
was an instant connection between that horse and I and
it didn't matter like if I had anything or not,
Like it was there was something about me and there's
something about that horse, like we were drawn together. And
ever since then, like I come back every month. I
(03:45):
even started up in my visits to like twice a month,
so the connection could grow even more. Like me and
that horse have become best friends. Honestly, there's many videos
I post on my tiktoks where we go on our
walks and we have our communications. So the title is
all about how equin therapy has healed me from traumas
(04:07):
of the past, especially from college to conquering addiction. So
equin therapy has healed me from a lot of wounds
that have happened in the past year or so.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Wow, and I love that. And so what what would
be like a daily process of the equin therapy, Like
when you go and have your your your moment with
your best friend. Both just tell us what a day
in a life of that entails.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It is, So it's like straight off of a movie.
So of course me and Bo have our tongue. But
the thing about horses, they feel just like we do,
and they feel strongly too. There are other horses who
tend to get jealous when I show both more attention,
so I have to show at so I have to
take a break from both sometimes to give attention to
(04:56):
the other horses. So there's these two twin donkey their
name Kitten Cash full grown donkeys, and you got to
show those two some attention because they get really jealous
and they're really needy. So sometimes I find myself having
to bring a separate bag just for kitten Cash, like
a separate bag of carrots because sometimes the other horses
(05:19):
out eat all of them. Because when I visit the
ranch like before Christmas, so that's my Christmas gift of
the horses. I'm like, hey, like I had like a
whole bunch of bags just feeding like every horse and
pony I possibly could. But there was this one pony
named Ainslie who was out eating everybody and kitting cash.
They were like stumping their hoods as of like hey,
(05:42):
like you ate yours, like now it's our turn, and
so like kitten Cash that got like really jealous, and
I told them, I'm like, okay, next time you're you're
gonna have your own bags since another pony ate everything
I had for y'all. So it's like a it's like
a sense of comedy and it's like like a slice
of life at the same time, like they know. The
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horses know. They know when you're happy, they know when
you're side. One thing I started doing on my walk
to bou is I tend to sing to him. He
loves music, so when I sing him a happy song,
he tends to like move his mane from side to side.
He has a little groove on him and when I
sing something inside, bo put his entire head on me
(06:26):
as of like are you okay? Like it's it's completely
mind blowing up. Sometimes I find myself tearing up when
I visit them because I'm just like wow. Because the
thing is, horses tend to feel more than people do.
And the thing about horses this they love blindly, like
they don't really care like who you are, They just
(06:48):
love you in an instant. So that's what has made
like this experience and writing this book so powerful, Like
out of all the this is my sixth book, so
out of all of the books I've written, I can
say I talked to horse bees possibly my favorite one
to date.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Okay, And I was gonna ask you that do you
have a favorite, but you just told us that you
have a favorite.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I love that you took the experience to share with
other people because you could have kept that all to yourself,
especially when you were in your on your healing journey
trying to overcome all of the trauma. When is the
release date? I mean you told us, you told us
February seventh, So where can readers purchase a copy of
(07:31):
your book?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Readers can purchase a copy on Amazon dot Com. The
title will be available on that date, and I'm having
surprisingly like, with this being my sixth book, I'm actually
going to be having my first book launch party ever
the Saturday and right after the release date, some one
of my friends is starting her own bookshop and I'll
(07:53):
be the first author to have a signing there, and
I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Nice, that's amazing. Yes, So okay, let's let's let's get
into what do you want readers to take away on
learn by reading?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I talk to hearsts, so there's a bit of a
deep sensitive subject matter. So I called this book the
unintentional sequel to my previous poetry book, Recovery Ride, which
centers around me going through alcoholism in college. So I
talked to Horses basically serves as that unintentional sequel. So
(08:30):
Recovery Ride is basically healing from the alcoholism. I talked
to Horses as healing from the source. Because the thing is,
God tends to show you things that He gives you
bits and pieces until you're able to see the big picture.
Because at the time when I was writing Recovery Ride,
I thought, okay, alcohol the acoholism was bad, but it
(08:53):
wasn't the thing that was destroying my life. So me
sobering up. By the way, I'll be making two years
sober this year on mayfist congratula.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Thank you, thank you. So alcoholism in college youth is
not common at all, considering like eighteen year olds to
like twenty one year olds with being home away from home,
it actually happens way more than you think. And so
(09:26):
basically talking about like the source, basically God had me
sober up visit this ranch in order to show me
like the false wizard behind the curtains. If you can
understand that matter, yes. So what I want readers to
take away from this is healing is a process. So
when I wrote Recovery right, I thought, Okay, I'm healed.
(09:50):
But the thing is, once I left MacNeice with my degree,
although I left with a degree, but I was also
leaving with a broken heart. Still there was still a
lot of trauma that I still had to unpack. What
readers need to take away from this is you can't
rush the healing process. Sometimes there will be a way
for you to heal in ways that you never expected,
(10:13):
like I never thought I would be going to a
ranch and bonding with a bunch of horses in order
for me too properly healed. But I'm glad it happened
that way. I still visit the ranch to this very date.
So basically, healing is a step by step process, and
it is slow. It's not fast at all. If I
tell y'all it was fast, I'd be lying to you.
(10:35):
It's a slow burn, but it is worth it. Sometimes
it takes a year, some types it takes multiple years,
but you have to have patience yourself in order to
feel it until you feel completely healed.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Absolutely, And it's amazing how the books came full circle
because Recovery Ride, I talk the horses like, did you
have like an inkling of that was gonna happen in
your life? Were you going to the ranch prior to that,
or you know, before you wrote Recovery Rout.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
So when I wrote Recovery Right, I was in my
final semester at Magnice. I had no idea I would ever. Honestly,
when once I finished writing Recovery Ride, I didn't really
see myself writing anything again because I was so terrified
releasing this book because of the subject matter. I was worried.
Oh my god, I'm like twenty two years old, like
(11:34):
people tell me all the time, like, oh my god,
you're like you went through alcoholism, but you're so young.
But like I said, addiction does not discriminate. It could
look like anybody, it can happen to anyone. But college
college is basically the heart of addiction. So I would
not I did not know I would even write an
(11:55):
unattentional sequel to Recovery Rod. And this book acts like
that in a way, but at the same time it
stands as its own thing. It talks about how like
the horses have healed me from so much, such as
my pasts with addiction, this place that I was once
a part of, that I found myself having to get
out of because this place did not serve my purpose
(12:19):
in life at all. And it talks about friendship, breakups,
breakups in general, anxiety, thing on topics like that. And
the Ranch basically serves as like this anchor towards the
healing that with the horse, not just the horses, but
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the horses, the donkeys, the ponies, like basically the ranch
in general. Sometimes you have to change your environment in
order to experience something new, because just being like out
in like the open, it's it's absolutely refreshing because sometimes
when you're like in the city, it can be a
bit cramped. So changing like your environment plays a part
(13:01):
in that as well.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I love that you say that because that is so true.
You cannot find elevation in the comfort zone. Yes, you
have to branch out, and sometimes it's you're isolated. You
have to go through your healing journey alone until you're
strong enough to tell someone your story without it feeling
like a weight on you again. And that's how you
(13:26):
you know that I am beginning the process. I can
form this sentence and tell people that I was going
through this and I was at a dark place without
breaking down and going back to that place. So thank you,
thank you for sharing, saying sharing your story like I'm not,
I don't want to. I don't want to give away
anything because I want you guys to go and get
the books and support him and read about his journey.
(13:48):
But let's let's talk about what motivated you to get sober.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
What motivated me? So we're gonna backpedalle a little bit.
So what motivated me against so was at a college party.
I found myself drinking a lot of tequila. And I
don't know if any of y'all like had tequila before,
but when you drink tequila, it feels like you're insides
(14:15):
are on fire. This was like the most painful thing
I've ever experienced. Like I drunk so much of it
that I blacked out. I didn't remember. I don't I
don't remember to this day, I still don't remember things
that happened that night. It was horrifying. Like some people
tend to these days, people tend to joke like, oh,
I got so drunk, like I don't remember what happened.
(14:38):
Like to me personally, there's nothing really funny about that,
because there could be it could be absolutely horrifying. So
that party, like apparently like I said some things to
some people that was absolutely harsh, and I'm like, this
is not who I am. I don't want to feel
like this anymore. And that's what prompted me to get sober,
(14:59):
because that was not who Jalen was. I don't know
who that person was whenever he would drink himself silly,
but that wasn't him. But it wasn't just at the parties.
I found myself at a place around like a group
of people who weren't for me at all, and it
felt me and it made me feel powerless, to the
(15:21):
point I would go to the alcohol in order to
numb myself, to just not feel anything, because I was like,
you know what if none of these people can feel
anything I'm feeling, maybe I'm crazy, maybe I'm like gaslighting myself.
So I would just turn to the alcohol. The drinking
was so bad that the only thing I would have
in my mini fridge was an empty bottle a Margherita
(15:45):
midst It would sit there in my fridge for months.
I don't know why I didn't get rid of it,
like sooner. It just stayed. It just stayed there. I
don't know why to this day, but that is that's
what happened.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Oh wow. See, recognizing that you didn't like the person
that you were becoming on the alcohol. That takes a
lot of inner self like you have self reflection and accountability,
and a lot of people don't want to have that.
They blame other people or they're blaming on the alcohol.
(16:21):
Not realizing that you were self medicating to cover up
something else, Like you said you you didn't like the
way the people that was in your circle made you
feel so you wanted to numb it and hurt people,
hurt people, and it goes. I don't think it was
about you at all. It was they were so numb,
are broken or unhealed that they say, you know what,
(16:43):
let me take that, Let me take it off me
and put it on somebody else to make them feel
low because I'm already low. Yes, yeah, and it's sad
that you have to deal with that, but I thank
God for allowing you to make it through, to share
your story inspire somebody else. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And the thing is, I couldn't when I wrote Recovery right,
and even when I wrote wrote I talked to horses.
This is These are things like I can't just sit on.
I know other people would like just sit on it
and try to move on with their life the best
they can. But the thing is, so much had happened
and I've experienced so much that I would honestly wouldn't
(17:23):
forgive myself if I know there's somebody out there who
went through the same thing I went through, and I
may be holding a solution to their problem, and like
just not share it like I would I have to.
I feel like I had to share it the best
way I possibly can.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Absolutely, and when you know that you have arrived to
your purpose, you realize that it's biggerting you. Yes, so
you know you your recovery is bigger thing you and
it's going to impact so many lives. I just I
cannot wait to watch the journey and just smile and
say Jayla when he first started, and I'm seeing you
(18:04):
grow and grow and it's just a beautiful thing to
see the smile on your face. And it's like, you know,
I would, I would think about you often and then
I'll see you pop up where you posting something. I
was like, okay, Jayla's still doing it and stuff like that,
because you know, we started following each other on social media,
so I have been there watching from the sidelines, cheering
(18:24):
you own. When you posted that you were graduating and
your graduation pictures, I was like, yes, you know, because
you could allowed your your addiction to keep you from
getting your degree and a lot of people do that.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yes. And to finish line, I was right off the
finish line and I'm like, ain't no way it stops
right here. That's basically what I told myself.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, yes, And I wanted to ask, did you have
like a support system with your family or did you
not tell them about what was going on? Oh?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yes, Oh yes, I'm glad you. I'm glad you asked up.
My family has a driving force for me ever since
this journey began on May fifth, twenty twenty three. They
supported me getting help. They supported me wanting to change
my friend group because like, no, like people, even like
(19:16):
people in my family, like my grandparents and my mom.
They would tell me this person, that's something not right
about this person. I wouldn't be able to see what
they were seeing because like I'm just blinded by the
perception this person was showing to me. But once, like
I was actually once I was sitting down and like
(19:37):
trying to recover the people who I was, who was
the cause of me drinking was nowhere to be found.
I couldn't get their support, I couldn't get their love.
There was even some who were mad at me that
I stopped, that I stopped drinking because like I wasn't
going to be like partying with them anymore. And I'm
(19:57):
just like I don't want to do that anymore because
the thing is what I learned about addiction. When people
see that side of you, they're going to remind as
many people as they possibly can about that. Because I
saw this. I saw this post and it was on Facebook,
and it still sits with me to this day. It said,
the reason why people constantly talk about the past few
(20:21):
because they have no access to the new you. Because
the person who like you're looking at right now, who
you're talking to, those people from the past, they have
no access to any of this because God made the
block button for a reason. And two, like when you,
when you finally experience true peace, you have every right
(20:43):
to protect that and the best way is possible. And
I'm so overprotective with my peace that I refuse to
let anybody from the past, or anybody affiliated with anybody
in my past to try to access that and shrip
that away from me. I've worn't too hard.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That yes, that you just said, that's a beautiful thing.
It's a beautiful feeling, and you cannot understand it until you've.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Gone through it. I've gone through it.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So I'm over here like shaking my head because I
feel everything that you say. I feel the same exact way,
like nothing is more important to me than my piece, Yes,
because the fight was so hard. To look at you
now and say, oh, you're so strong, You're so strong,
(21:32):
but not realizing that those dark nights are there, dark
days which on you light. I'm not letting you go
like smothering you, trying to strip you from your life.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Despite me sobering up to this day, to this day,
even with the equine therapy and even like I'm just
regular therapy, to this day, I still have nightmares about
that party that night, because it's horrifying when you just
fog out and you just remember and all you have
(22:03):
is everybody else's words. It's to this day it's still horrifying,
And to this day, to all those people in my past,
I'm still known as the boy who got drunk on
Senco Demayo. They don't know about Jalen becoming, Jalen graduating,
Jalen becoming an author, Jalen releasing a sixth book. All
they know is about the person that got drunk at
(22:24):
Cicco Demayo. That's all they know, that's all they have
access to, that's all they remember. And honestly, I'm fine
with that because with what I have gained from like
this ranch and what I've what I with the bond
I have with Bo, It's better than anything I can
experience from any person from my past. So that version,
(22:46):
that old version of my stuff, they can they can
keep it. They can honestly keep it. And it doesn't
bother me to this day that the tall tale of
Jalen Martin the college drunk, it still spins around because
I have degree. I'm not there anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
So right, absolutely, and good for you, Jalen. I'm glad
that you didn't get stuck in it and allow it
to affect you, affect you in a way where you
relapse because it happens.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Oh yes, absolutely, So.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
You mentioned something earlier. I want you to elaborate on
this a little bit. Recognizing your slice of life. How
important is it to recognize your slice of life? So
someone who may be listening and don't understand that, can
you just break it down what you were talking about
when you said it earlier.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Recognizing that slice of life. So what I mean by
that is you will actually feel when weights have been
taken off your shoulders. I remember one time when I
visited the ranch one day, like I was just walking
with Ba and just like talking talking to him so
(23:53):
little sidetrack brief like when you talk to worthless, they understand,
They absolutely understand. So one day I was talking to
him and it just hit me. This is when I
feel that slights of life. I'm like, this is all
I ever wanted, just someone something to stay by me
(24:13):
blindly and just see me grow, because that's all I
ever wanted from the people of the past, just to
see me grow. But they didn't want to see me grow.
And it just hits me, like, Wow, an animal is
willing to show more love and compassion than a human being.
And that's when I actually felt that, because sometimes when
(24:37):
you're in that moment, you kind of compare and contrast.
I'm just like, wow, like this, this animal, who even
though I can't like actually talk back to me with words,
could actually show more care and generosity and passion and
support more than a human being who can actually talk
(24:58):
like right, it's a It's amazing to me.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yes, And I want to say to someone who may
be listening to haven't found their slice of life, take
some time to sit with yourself, take some time to
learn who you are, and learn the things that you
like and those little slices of life will start to
manifest in your life.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Still.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
You know, it's almost like having an Aha moment. I
really like apples over oranges. I really like drinking water,
or going outside and putting my feet in the sand
or dirt or something like that. You would know that
it is a part of your slice of life when
you experience it.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yes, some people think some people think I'm crazy for this,
but my family commends me for it. But the ranch
has changed me like so much. I even changed my
eating dot so ever since this year, I've begun. I
have become a full on tescatarian, So I no longer
eat beef or pork. They say pork is bad for
you anyway, Oh yes, I mainly just stick to seafood
(26:03):
because like there was one day, like I was looking
at like some bacon in the Frish and I'm just like,
I really really don't want this, like even like with
the frozen burger patties and all that, and I'm just like,
I really don't want this anymore. And so far, I'm
loving it so far, Like it just feels like I've
become like a new person and I'm still I'm still growing.
(26:27):
The thing about transformation is that it gradually happens over time.
But once you start feeling that transformation, you're just like wow,
like I want to experience more of this, Like I
hope this never ends, and you'll be in luck because
transformation never ends. You're finding more things about yourself as
you go along. And that's probably the best feeling in
(26:47):
the world.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
It really is. It really is. And so I know
you talked about that dreadful night, but how has been
sober impacted your life?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Being sober has got me closer to my faith, to myself.
And I've gotten so strong to the point as if
I if I'm like with some people and if they do,
like have a drink, it doesn't bother me at all.
And I have such a strong support group that they
always ask me. They always ask me, oh my God,
(27:21):
like I forgot, I forgot? Are you Are you okay
with me having a dream? And I'm like, go ahead, injury, like, enjoy,
enjoy your enjoy yourself. Because that's how strong I've gotten
in my sobriety. But when it was beginning that summer
of twenty twenty three, it was hard. It was so hard,
like even like if something slide. It ticked me off.
(27:43):
I would want to drink, but I couldn't have and
I couldn't find a way to access that, and I
would just like find myself sweating, like the withdraws were
real and they were rough, and my family would be like, Jaylen,
you gotta get through this. Friends were like, Jalen, you
got to get through this. It was. It was so painful,
(28:06):
and I wouldn't wish this one anybody. It's it's the
worst feeling. Well, once you beat it, it's it's the
most amazing feeling ever. It's rewarding because it shows like
you are more powerful than any trial and tribulation.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Absolutely, I love that, Jalen. I love that. So what's
next for you? Besides the book release? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I have a whole bunch of projects in the works,
from sci fi to fantasy. So I've written my first
sci fi trilogy when I was in eighth grade, so
I was looking through like my old books and everything.
I'm very proud of teenage Jalen. But I'm actually planning
on rewriting and republishing that sci fi trilogy because I
(28:53):
feel like my first book series. Dessers, the writer I
have become. So I've been like looking through that trying
to find ways to like flesh out the story and
the character development in order to give it that full
star power that I know that it can even have
than ever before.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I love that. I love this. See. I love when
you when as you grow as a person, you want
to just put out your best, so you go back
and and revisit that so that you can do that. Yes,
I love that. I love that. So tell the listeners
how they can connect with you. So I know you
hang out on the social media streets, but tell the
listeners how they can connect with you.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
So I actually have two instagrams. One Instagram is the
Spoken Stallion and the other one which is mainly my
author page is The Stallion of Stories. And I also
have a Facebook page for that. I do my office
stuff as well called Jalen J. Martin the Author. And
I'm very active on TikTok hopefully TikTok space because I
(29:57):
love my TikTok but I know yes in case of
TikTok stays on. My TikTok page is the Spoken Stallion
as well, and you can also connect with me on LinkedIn.
My name is Jayla Martin.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But before we get out of here, do you have
like any words of encouragement, empowerment, motivation for the listeners today.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
So my word of encouragement is where I learned. When
I was writing, I talked to horses. Like every single poem.
It's to basically just feel your feels. Because when it
came to writing Recovery Rod, there were a lot of
things that I was trying to avoid writing on. But
when you're a writer, putting your pain on paper is
(30:41):
the only way to get through it. But if you're
not a writer, I definitely recommend it. Put that pain
on paper because trust me, I've written I kind of
embraced my enter Taylor Swift, my students tell me and
I just write down but everything that has given me
like a broken heart. And also I find myself not
(31:06):
writing it in such a vain manner. When it comes
to writing things like about the people of my past,
I wrote it in a way showing like I forgive
them while acknowledging, Hey, what you've done is was pretty
screwed up. But I forgive you because this is me
taking a big step forward. So I leave off today, Stam.
(31:27):
Once you make that big step. Don't look back so
in a way that I say about it and I
talk to horses. Once you get on that statle and
ride off to the sun stuff, that light is all
you're going to see. And keep riding into that.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Light, keep riding into that light. I love that. I
love that. So Jalleen, thank you so much for coming
and kicking with me today.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
It has been absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I wish you continued success. You know I'm here for you.
If you ever need to talk or anything else, you
know I'm down for you. We don't very often, but
you know you got somebody in your corner. Oh. Absolutely, Yeah,
it's absolutely But you guys have been listening to another
episode of Kicking It Wikiki Life, loving all that other shit.
(32:12):
I am back with the new episode every Thursday. Say
make sure you tap in follow us on social media
at Kicking It Withkiki Media on all platforms. Just right
into that sunset, like right into the sunset. Happen to
finding your slice of life and know that you deserve
it regardless of what has happened in your past. You
have the ability and the power to overcome it. It
(32:35):
is hard, but they have professionals that will will help
you along the way, and you have to do what
Jaylen said. Have a support system that will be in
your corner, that will recognized, Hey, let me just make
sure that he's okay before I take this drink or
whatever it may be. In your case, I'm here as well,
so you can always reach out to me kicking Wikiki
(32:57):
Media at gmail dot com. You guys be blessed. Papa hugs.
Later on mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
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