Otis, Katie & Nick - Full Show: Tuesday, July 29, 2025

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• 7 am starts around 1:05:00
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tell me, do you know what it is?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Why?

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yes, it's a matter of fact.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I do.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
And do you love like me?

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yes, I do you want some lasagna? Make you lazagna?
Why is that? It's actually National Lasagna Day? National Lazagnia Day.
You had me at Lazagnia lasagna. Just kept the lasagna.
It's National Lazagna Day.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's showtime.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Five eleven kids have mornings on a skiddy nick on
National Lasagnaweeka human Oh.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
I love a good lasania.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
But see, I'm not a red sauce person, so I
think maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
It's just another way to get pizza toppings into my mouth,
except instead of crust, they use pasta.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (00:41):
It's just not my Yeah, but it's got like racotta
and da layer and I'm good about that. Man, I
love lasagna. That is a death row meal. My mom's
lazangna incredible.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
I could never have lasagna again. The rest of my
life would be Okay, it's so good.

Speaker 6 (00:54):
I'm surprised. As a pasta guy, you don't like it. No,
I don't like pasta. No, I don't like pasta. You
guys make it all the time. Yeah, I know, it's
you don't like it, nop oh man, never mind. Then
I can see why you don't like lasagna.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
And I don't hate it, not anything I want, And
I feel that that's how I feel about red sauce.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Okay, okay, yeah, because a chicken alfreda lasagna all day.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
I was gonna say, what if you did like a
like a you alfredoi or like a white chicken chili.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
I love the sauces. Yeah, I'll take it, Alfreidle, I'll
take a red sauce. I just don't want a pasta,
and I don't want to What if.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
You do a little bit of both? What if you
do like a red layer and then like a white layer?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah? Yeah, you know, I've never tried that. I've always
thought about that.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
I think we that we we all three of us
have a mutual friend from Louisiana and he has made
me cajun lasagna.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Do you immediately start thinking in his accent when you
say that, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yes, oh you gotta have the cajun laizana. Yeah, and
it's so good.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
What what are we dealing with there? I don't really know, obviously,
not shrimp.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Is it spicy?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
So it's like an dewey kind of whatever. Okay, yes,
and that lasagna I am here for.

Speaker 6 (02:00):
Okay, yes, yeah, I just think you could do anything
with it because you can do veggie, you can do meat,
you could do like a Chriso. And we made a
Mexican lasagna that was unbelievable, just layers. It was layers
of tortillas. But then there was Cherisa. It was fantastic,
so like but not rolled kind of Yeah, okay, so let's.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, that sounds pretty good. When Garfield made lasagna his personality. Okay,
we just talked about Garfield yesterday.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
Yesterday, Yeah, because it was the birthday of the creator. Yeah,
Jim Davis and we have decided.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Nick and I did not realize we are both not
really into Garfield. We we both went through the phase wherever,
as a young man, especially, you go through a well
everybody else likes Garfield, I should probably like Garfield. So
you get some Garfield books, you start reading the comics
and I don't know. I'm like two months in and
I'm like, this isn't funny. Garfield to me is the Kathy.

(02:58):
It's not funny of kids, you know, the Cathy.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yes, do you remember her. Yes, Yes, Garfield is the
kid version. That's a really good analogy. It's the Monday's Woo. Yeah,
that's Garfield. I went there. I liked Garfield.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
I really loved getting his comics at the library. And
my favorite one, The Volcano made for TV movie one
where John finds a girlfriend and they go to Hawaii.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Yeah, it was basically Joe Versus the Volcano before Joe
Versus the Volcano.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Loved that movie.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Yeah, but I never at any point felt that Garfield
was like a spirit animal of mine or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Where do you stand on the Jennifer love of Garfield.
I didn't watch any of those. That was too I
was too old for it. I didn't know that happened. Yeah,
it was live action Garfield. I loved Odie though I
thought he was so Odi was adorable. I'll give you Odie.
I didn't understand why Garfield got so mad at him all. Yeah,
but that was the thing. You had to live through
Garfield to get to Odie, and that was just too much.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I had a little trouble understanding why they were letting
him eat like lazagna, like you know what I mean, Like,
and he's making Lazani.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
He's got pans of lazagna. He's either sleeping or eating lazagna. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Meanwhile, we didn't want our cat on the counters, and
here this guy's in the kitchen making lasagna.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
And you didn't even want lazagna. So it was hard
to even.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Old thing didn't make sense that I can at least
relate to the guy I was over here, going guys,
Calvin and Hobbs is much funnier.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
What are you doing? Why are you not reading Calvin
and Hobbs.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
We're always peeing on stuff now though, which really kind
of that's not really that's what I mean though, But
it's it's ruined Calvin and Hobbs when it's urinating on
a Chevy all the time.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Because everybody up north just stole it. They all stole
it and said we're gonna make it pee on things.
We don't lot and we don't log it. We're gonna
piss on it.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I don't know what's happening. We went.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
That's like up North Alabama or I don't know what
happened either. You've just defended all of Ryanland there. They're like, dude,
what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Did you see this.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
My wife makes the lasagna using lunch meat instead of noodles.
You cannot tell an tastes amazing, So like, I don't.
I don't know how you feel about that. I mean
and like and either are we doing Deli kinder? Are
we using like Hillshire Farms? Not that there's anything wrong
with Hillshire Farm.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
Yeah, if your wife is doing it with butting, it's trash.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
I just feel like, that's so many galleries, right, not
that something you for a diet of salt. And then
I'm thinking about how you're your colon's reacting to, like,
that's so much meat?

Speaker 6 (05:29):
Yeah, you ever do the well I'm asking a question.
The answer is no from the other two thirds of
the room.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
So, but the.

Speaker 6 (05:36):
Zucchini noodles, No, Yeah, it's outstanding if you can get
it dry. Yeah, if it's done right and you can
get the noodles to where they don't leach out all
the water, it's fantastic. It'll get crispy and good. And
oh I like a good zoodle.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I do.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
I'm not afraid to admit it. I'm a Sicilian and
I like a good zoodle. All right, Sue me, you know,
sue me when you take take me home and sue me.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
When you take things that people love and then you
try to make them healthy, it just never works. And
zoodles is a great example. I think cauliflower pizza crust
doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I've never had it. Yeah, it's weird, but I feel
like it is possible. I think it's possible too.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
But I also every time I eat it, the only
time it tastes really good is when they add so
many things on top of the pizza that it's no
longer healthy.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
If they don't tell me it's a colorflower crust, I
think I'm more inclined to like it, okay, because you'll
eat it and you're like, well that's a different crust. Wow,
they have any they have a unique crust recipe. But
then when they bring it out and they're like and
the coliflower crust, and you're like oh, and then your
mind automatically ruins it.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Mine immediately puts the taste of earth in there. I
just no, it does. The flower has that. Well, it's
like when they rice it, you know, instead of having rice,
have rice colorflower. Yeah. Nothing, But then you eat it
and you're like, well, there's more surface the rice. Yeah,
you get well. No, you taste like earthy rice. Yeah,
and I like colorflo.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
It's just don't try to fool me and be like, hey,
instead of this, we're gonna serve it over colorflower. Right,
just give me colorflower. I don't mind colorflower. But yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
We're trying. I mean we're baby stepping.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
We're doing the work. Yeah, trying to combat. But then
at eleven o'clock at night, we're eating a bowl of cereal.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I'm throwing it all. Puff tastes the best at eleven o'clock
at night. It's because I've been five eighteen good morning.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
I feel like you might want to borrow a Netflix
password Nick the next couple of days.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
I don't know. I just feel like this is something
you have. No.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
Oh, the reviews are getting better. They're they're rotten. Tomato
score climbed five points.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I haven't watched the whole thing yet.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
If you expected anything less than or anything more than
what you got, I don't think you understood what it was.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
It was exactly what I thought it would be. It
was Happy Gilmore two. If you liked Happy Gilmore one,
you're gonna like Happy gil More two.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
I don't know how you would not either like it
or not like it based on your last experience. It
is the same ish movie too many ca I just
feel like one.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Of people that didn't like it. It wasn't made for you,
It wasn't maybe for you.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
I didn't expect to like it, and I didn't like it,
but I didn't like it at the same amount I
didn't like the first one, so it wasn't like any
different to me.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
It was like, yeah, okay, and I feel like that's
not a very fair then critique me not liking No that.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
You almost to the point of like people who didn't
like the first one don't critique it. Yeah, that's oh,
And I'm not saying you are. But like all everyone online,
I'm actually now be an expert.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
I was actually surprised by the amount of hate yesterday
when I talked about this, because I watched it with
Melinda because she likes the movie and that's fine, and
I didn't understand why everybody hated it. It didn't seem that
different from the first one to me, and that's not
a slam. I just didn't see. To me, I was like,
I don't see what the difference is. Yeah, this isn't
that crazy different. There's a few more cameos, but it

(08:49):
seemed fine.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Our family loved it, and I've been gotten all the
way through it. Yet Brody was really upcited about the
beginning though, yeah, spoiler alert.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I mean, it's okay, it's so there everybody's talking about.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
He was like, that didn't need to happen onm Like
he goes, the first five minutes are the worst. It's
the word, and I was like, I didn't know you
cared so much Bess as a woman.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
Okay, And I have not seen it, but I kind
of feel like I get having heard other reviews and
then understanding seeing the trailer and understanding what needs to
happen for Happy Gilmour in this film. Yeah, I feel
like it's kind of very poetic and and that.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Was totally out of the blue.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
That dude's got to he's got to hit rock bottom,
and his rock bottom is losing her, Like that's that's
happy world is her and her lingerie with the two beers,
and so you lose happy world, you hit rock bottom
and you change your life and you move forward. I
think that's actually probably pretty That's probably the only like

(09:50):
because it's happy Gilmore. That's probably the only thing that's
really relatable in life to the actual script.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Kiss EVM tonight on Netflix. W w E unreal. It's
a behind the scenes docu series about the show's production. Uh,
they are gonna look inside the writer's room.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
Yeah, I'm very curious about this. I saw the trailer
for it, and.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
They're gonna go to the stars' homes and visit with
them as the Life stars.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
It's like the real Ones.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
It's Cody Rhodes, It's uh, it's John Cena, It's it's
all the it's the good, it's the Big Ones. I
thought the opening scene to the trailer, if you if
you watch the Netflix teaser, it's Cody Rhodes limping down
the back hall of what is clearly an arena where
he either he either just practiced or he just they

(10:40):
just battle, they did whatever, And I thought it was
just a really it's a really powerful visual and it's
only about three seconds, but you look at them and
you think what they do to their bodies for my
entertainment is incredible. This dude could barely walk, and you
look at him, if you were to stand in front
of you, he is all of health you look at him.

(11:03):
He's ripped, he's chiseled, he looks young, he looks healthy,
he looks vibrant, and then he starts walking and you go,
it's a little bit like Hulk. It was a little
bit like like the hulkster at the end. And you
would see him in public and he's a larger than
live figure and then you look at him and go,
you guys, literally kill yourself so that I can be entertained.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
It's true gladiator style. It was really cool.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
So yeah, okay, yeah, I'll uh, I'll ask fight fris password.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Serious premiere of Dope Girls on Hulu. You've got a
stand up special on Netflix. Dusty Sleigh Wet Heat Destination
X on NBC. That is the first season finale, And
of course America is still searching for talent on NBC
at seven o'clock tonight.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I feel like we're not gonna find any we have
and he looks so far. Occasionally you get a magician
and like a dancing crew, I'll end up in Vegas.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Ninety four series, Brewers Cubs, Massive Series, Battle for First Place,
First One Underway, Brewers Draw, First Blood was it? These
are at home, which a great, great, bad start for
the miss. It it made me think of you, and
I knew you weren't watching, but it made me think
of you in terms of Miss and his growth and

(12:18):
big games, big moments, big times.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Nothing bigger for the guy. I guess you could argue
the All Star.

Speaker 6 (12:22):
Game, but nothing bigger for the dude than this moment
at this point in his very young career. First place
on the line. Two teams tied, I ninety fourth series,
which is always just red hot. Both teams travel well.
Chicago takes over American Family Field, Brewers takeover Wrigally. I
mean it is very well traveled and well established, and

(12:45):
it was a terrible start. Gives up three throws, one
into the first row, I mean, like play at first,
and launches one wild pitch that he uncorks to score
the first one. It was as bad of a start,
just about for the kid as you could get in
this moment.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
And then in a moment where you know his pitch
count's going.

Speaker 6 (13:05):
To start to get real limited now he's basically surpassed
at this point his entire season pitch count as a professional,
Like he's never pitched this much in his entire life.
So you know in the midst of what is now
a stretch run Pennant race that the Brewers are very
much in the midst of. You know, he's a huge
factor in that, but you also know they have to

(13:26):
be really careful with the guy.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
So it's like, I don't know, is he going.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
To get forty pitches tonight, eighty pitches, fifty pitches, twelve?
You know, how are they gonna how are they going
to keep him in the lineup for another two months?
Like after already basically as a pro hitt in his ceiling.
So he came out and it was like, well, maybe
he's just done. Then he settled in. He was amazing,

(13:49):
He was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
It was great.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
It was really great to see super maturation right before
your eyes. Like great second inning, one, two, three, three
innings in a row. Then they pulled them after four.
Brewers put up a four spot and never looked back.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Eight to four. Final solid Brewers Cubs game. I'll take it.

Speaker 6 (14:07):
Had a little bit of everything, a little bit of
like little swings and then a little bit of nervous
action and then had to bring in had to had
to basically rescue the game in the bottom of the
ninth had everything a Brewers Cubs game has had since
since both teams have been relevant. It was great, great game,
and ultimately Brewers victory.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Huge. Back at it tonight, here we go. What time
do they play? Six forty perfect?

Speaker 6 (14:35):
Yeah, it's a nice set. I kind of like the
like the little early action. Yeah, and now currently sitting
in first place.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I will take all. So let's do it.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Yep, let's talk. Danny Janssen coming back to Wisconsin to
join the Brewers, says one of our texters. Okay, Jansen, Dan.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, I mean that's okay. They got a little.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Depth that catch or the speed skater I saw, so
I saw I saw this post go up last night,
and I thought, oh, I'm gonna read this so that
I know something when you guys start talking burrs, and
I didn't learn anything. I learned that everybody in the
comments section is arguing about if this is a good
move or not, and everybody seems to think it's me.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
That's what I don't think.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
I don't think it's ever a bad move to add
depth at catcher, Like I think that's that's that's good.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
You need a look catching.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
The consensus was me they seem to think this was
just kind of a lateral.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
They didn't think it really did a whole lot.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
That's what wow. I mean the commenters, you know, yeah,
it's it's not.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
We're we're a little bit guilty of headline excitement where
all the analysts are saying the Brewers are an odds
on favorite to represent the National League in the World Series.
This team has everything that you could possibly ask for.
The recipe is good. In addition to the recipe being
good and them hitting on every this year, they also

(16:01):
have locker room culture. They have fun. These guys are
doing it the right way. And I'll tell you what,
if they just get one big bat at the trade deadline,
nobody can stop Milwaukee. And so we're guilty of looking
at that headline and now believing that that's not only
what they will do, but what they should do. And
I'm always a I'm a huge fan of making the

(16:22):
moves and making the splashes and doing that. But it
was it was during the eleven game winning streak. Was
it was on the pregame of Game twelve in Seattle
that changed my mind, or at least made me take
a little step back from the go out and get somebody,

(16:42):
start trading a few prospects, find somebody. And it was
interviews with multiple players, all of them separate interviews, each
one to a t saying the wins are great, like,
of course, you love winning, you know it's better than losing.
But we just can't wait to wake up and get
to the clubhouse every day. Can't wait to wake up
and get to the ballpark every day. Yeah, the winning
is great. You know, we're having a lot of fun,

(17:03):
but we're not even really looking at the score, but
we're just having a great time. And it made me
take a step back and say, don't bleep with a
winning streak. Yep, don't screw with the culture right now
that you have in that dugout, because they're not only
playing well, and I think you could absolutely argue that
they are playing out of their minds, that this is

(17:24):
not necessarily who these guys are.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
They might be playing above the.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
Pay grade, so to speak, but at the same time,
we also don't know that they are or they aren't.
There's a time that you have to let every prospect
develop at the major league level, and so when you
look at the roster and go, I don't know who
these guys are. These guys are so young, these guys
are whatever. That doesn't mean that they're not exactly who
they are right now.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
We don't know. You've got to give them.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
Three, four or five years to really develop at the
pro level to know that if this is an anomaly
and they're just playing out of their minds, they're having
a Pat Liss Stash season where they're just going wild
for a rookie year and then they're going to come
back to earth, or if this is how they are,
this just might be the team.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
They just might have hit on it.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
And to be in a position now is you approach
August and a stretch run to be in first place
and at that time the best record in the majors.
I don't think you mess around. I don't think you
start moving stuff. You know.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
A wise man once said the Brewers won't be good
this year because how they started the season.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
Oh that's not true. A wise man once said, this
is historically the worst start. It doesn't mean they can't
turn it around. But let Brewers fans wallow in their
filth right now, because no one has done it worse
than the one in four Brewers.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
You did say that.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
You absolutely go back and grab that audio because I
saved it for this moment of Nick said they would suck,
and I said, I didn't say they would suck. I said,
right now, they are historically the worst team in baseball.
Let fans have it because this has never been done before.
I believe you even rappiest any team has ever played ever.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I believe you even said.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
And at some point people will say I said they suck,
and I'm not saying they suck.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I'm saying this.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
I'm saying right now at one and four, Let Brewers
fans have it, because no one has ever sucked worse
in the history of baseball. Those are my exact warns.
All right, see, but no, very cool, Danny Jansen, Appleton West,
I believe Appleton West player. And then of course you
know timber Ratler's Seattle Mariners farm.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Team back then.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
But so that that's it's a cool move. I don't
think it's ever bad to get get depth at catcher.
I think that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Cubs at the Brewers today, six forty it is kiss.
So Americans apparently would like to raise the driving age, no,
and lower the drinking age.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Man Newpole looked at the age requirements for a bunch
of stuff, and over half of Americans said you should
have to be older than sixteen to be allowed to drive.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
When they say older than sixteen, what do they propose
eighteen seventeen?

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Let's see, you just gave the kids another excuse to
not get a job.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
It's gonna say a lot of kids these days don't
even want their driver's license. It's a weird phenomenon that's
happened in.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
The last and that's why I don't want them to
change it, because the kids that have their license at
sixteen are ones that need their license. Yeah, there's a
reason the families need it for them to function.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Oh, I couldn't stay at fourteen when I'd have to
go pick Hutson up. It was fine because it was
seven o'clock. Yeah, but when it switched to when he
was allowed to work until nine and he didn't quite
have the license just because the timing hadn't worked, I'm like,
this sucks.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
That's sports us right now.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
That's the Oh never we do we do a carpool
and I'm always like I'll take there like it's not
even I barely ever give the option of I'll do pickuff.
And that's even when it's like seven thirty pickuff. Like
I'm like, nope, I'll drive them there. Yeah, but in
your defense, you've been.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Up, I know. But it's so mean to me to inconsidered.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
I guess to assume that like one of the moms,
she she does, she's.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
A radiology tech.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
I don't know what her hours are like like, for
all I.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Know, she's doing six.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I can't pick up our children. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
After I did my run, I came back and I
had YouTube videos to watch.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yep, and I don't want to pick up.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
Yeah, somebody's gotta be ready for True Crime Tuesdays watch.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Look, these things don't just do themselves. Doesn't even have
streaming services. He's not watching this stuff.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yes, but then there are sometimes that I feel guilty.
So I'll be like, you know, we are picking up,
and Michael is doing it like that's the he will
leave the y early and I love.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
The only option is I will either drop off and
not pick up, or my husband will pick up. I
either I volunteer my husband or I tell you what
time I will do with Those are.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
The two I volunteer Michael in tribute what what I
guess Historically, I'd never gone back and actually looked at
reasons why.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
I'm sure some of them were politically motivated. In the sixteen,
I would guess it's why.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
The sixteen and eighteen and then drinking became twenty one,
Like why why.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Are okay, here's a couple of things I would guess.
So I would guess driving was at sixteen because that's
when work permits, right, I would think so too, Yeah, yeah,
And then the eighteen drinking age was I'm assuming.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
There was a lot of drama, legal adults.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
With legal adult and some kids in high school could drink,
some kids't couldn't, and it was just too much intermixing
of that wall.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
And there's a really solid point that I think was
made when I was in high school from all of
the high school guys. You know, we could go off
and we could fight, yeah, and we can stand for
our country and we can't have be referts. And I'll
be honest, is as much as that's just a bunch
of teenagers yelling about stuff, it's a pretty solid point.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
It is a solid point, pretty solid.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
I just think that when it comes to they already
are making no judgment eighteen year olds who are listening
because I was there. I made the stupidest decisions when
I was eighteen. I made dumb decisions when I was
twenty one. But now last week and yeah, and I
will say it. Oh, I was a really really well

(23:28):
behaved kid in high school. I was not a kid
who was a party and stuff.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
The middle school, the little DeBie rappers were prot but
but I'm just imagining, though, I made really dumb choices
sober when I was seventeen and eight.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Yeah, so now throw in the alcohol and I just
I don't know, man, I wish I would make the
drinking age thirty seven.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
Yes, I'm sort of a fan of prohibition, you know, yeah, yeah,
he said sarcastically.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
You know, so more Americans support a maximum driving age,
so they would make the cutoff at an age instead
of a motor skills And that's.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Where I have a little bit hard one too, though.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, because I and I bring this up a lot
of the age because you'll see a seventy year old
sometimes and then you'll see a Heraldo Rivera who's seventy,
and you go those two seventy year olds don't get
the same, right, like, because I'm thinking, what's the age
then seventy five?

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Eighty? No, they said age Okay.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
I mean I look at my parents and I think
they no problems driving there, right, you know, like all good?
So you start capping them and then I've got to
drive them everywhere.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, it's not gonna work.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
I'll forget work and I'll be damn but if I'm
gonna teach you how to use the nuber, right, I'm.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
Out nineties the age for what that they have to
take tests again, or that they just can no longer drive.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Just can no longer drive.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
According to this poll, ten percent would make the cutoff
ninety years old.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Oh wow, one in five would make the cutoff eighty.
I don't think they understand what eighty is.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
I don't think they feel like those are the young
people who don't don't get what eighty looks like.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I think that once you at a certain age, you
need to test every year. But in the past that test.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
Yeah, I think the testing makes sense. I'm all good
after like sixty sixty five. By the wait, I'm okay
with us testing every five years. Just in general, I
think just a quick refresher.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
We'll say.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
The only thing I'm not okay with is look at
how long the DMV takes us. Right now, it's not
that bad. I have you been it's I was there?
Was it was it six months going? I think I
was there an hour.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
So since my I'm do you get the real idea?

Speaker 4 (25:29):
My youngest is twenty, well eighteen if you count my bonus.
So in the last six years, I've probably been there
six times and it has been amazing each time. It's
in and out within it's kind of like the Costco line.
It looks worse than it is. Yeah, you go in
and it looks crazy, But I've always got in and
out of the DMV in Green Bay on Willard over there,

(25:51):
and I don't go at great times. I've always gotten
in and out in about fifteen minutes tops.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
See. But now that would ruin it if we were
all testing every two years. Oh jeez.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
Yeah, but then think how much better everybody would drive. Yes, well,
maybe I could just take a home test. Yeah you
could do that. Yeah, Honestly, as much as I joke
about that, I'll bet you in. Let's say we implement
this in five years, because it's going to take a
while to get this implemented. I'll bet you there's something
that you could put on your dash or plug in underneath.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Well, they do, I gonna they do have insurance companies
have that right? How many times you slam on the brakes?
That's a point.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
Yes, yeah, I'll bet you there's something where you could
do the home You could now you can come in
and still have it with an actual driver as that instructor,
or you can take the home test.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
I'll take the home test. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
I think I'd rather have the instructor because if I
slam the brakes on and the machine says he slammed
the brakes on too many times, But you don't realize that.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
The guy in front of me like what I'm I supposing? Yeah,
I mean we'd have to listen, we're gonna perfect this
where we're.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Gonna have multiple things and there'll be live cameras and
video and things like that. Yeah, there's gonna be a
lot of things.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I guess to give us five things, give me five years.
We'll get we'll get smart people on this stuff. Five years.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
So ten no driving after ninety years old would just
be a unilateral thing, there would just be a ninety
year cutoff and that would be it, which, like a man,
what are we supposed to do?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Then? Walk? I know.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
At the same time, I am looking at it though,
and going, how many ninety year olds are on the
road right now?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
That's true and their blinker's been on since the Bush era?

Speaker 6 (27:26):
Yeah, so, and if they're on the road, I mean
at that point if you're ninety, if you're ninety and
you're still driving and you're still able to, aren't you
just risking it? Like I'm thinking about my grandmother. She
was ninety nine and eleven months old, and if she
had been driving around, it would have been like.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
What are you gonna do? I'm I'm ninety nine, you
know what? Pull me over? That sounds good.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
If you can't see over the steering wheel without a
booster seat, we're done.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:52):
I mean, these are people where they'd be like, you
know what I lived through in my life? Do you
know what I've seen? Okay, pull me over sounds good
because you're only gonna get pinched if you get caught.
So like, if they're decent drivers, yeah, yeah, they'll be
all right. Don't hit anybody, you'll be fine, Aldred. Listen,
you don't even have a license. You're ninety four.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Okay, what are you gonna do? Okay, it is six
oh one. It gives that.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
July twenty ninth, it was on this day.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
J R. R.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Doking published The Fellowship of the Ring, the first volume
of his Lord of the Rings trilogy, which, along the
lines of our discussion yesterday Nick about Garfield, this is
one of those where I tried to get into it
because everybody I knew was into these books. So I
tried really hard and just didn't care.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
My sister and I.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
Had never read the books, and we went to the
movies just because we're like, oh, we.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Haven't been a mover.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Well, let's see what this is all about. And we
didn't know it ends at a cliffhanger, and we were
so mad, like we in and we genuinely looked around
at the theater and we were like, wait what because
at the end this is not a spoiler. They go
over a hill and then you're like and now what yeah,

(29:17):
like what? And then the lights went on and we
were visibly upset, like we were like wait what.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
And then another guy in the theater was like, oh, yeah,
the next movies in like two years, and we were like, what.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Other than that?

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Yeah, I feel like this came out. Wait, This to
me is very so. I saw Jurassic World yesterday and
one of the previews is the Odyssey. Yea, and to me,
Lord of the Reason the Odyssey were written at the
same time, but they so were not.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
So by the way, what did you think of Jurassic World.
I it's just it's exactly what I thought it would be.
This to me, people complaining about dres to me, it
is like the people complaining about Happy Go More too.
You didn't clearly know what you were getting into. If
you went to Jurassic World, the now sixteenth version of
the Jurassic World series, and you thought there was going

(30:14):
to be anything other than just dinosaurs eating people with
a base plot to get you there, then you have
not paid any attention.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
That is exactly what it's going to be. And it was.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
I loved it, But I understand why people, Eh, yeah,
I like and I loved it by.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
The sense of in the sense of I enjoyed the
two hours. Of course, it was dinas movie ever made. No,
it was. I had a good time. It was trash
and I enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
It just like, look, occasionally I eat some some bad
fast food from a place I won't mention, and it's awful,
but you know what, I love it.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
And that's how Jurassic World is. It's awful and I
loved it. Oh. I was just gonna say something.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Oh oh, this is my one thing that I think
so I keep for it was one thing. Sorry, well,
no about the movie. I want to discuss this really quick.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Sorry.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
So, Brody and Jordie were with me, and I felt
bad because I thought they had both seen the original
Jurassic Park. So I'm trying to talk to Brody in
the middle of the movie because I was like, hey,
I think that scientist is the original kid.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Oh my god, I'd be so annoyed. And and he goes,
is he the one with his aunt? And I'm like,
what are you talking about with his aunt?

Speaker 5 (31:28):
He's talking about Jurassic World with the Chris Pratt because
in his eyes, that's his original.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Oh yeah, so do you think that was I think
never even put that together because he.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Said, he goes, I've studied with doctor Grant since I
was twelve. Yeah, maybe, yeah, that sounds about right.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
I know what was the old man's last name, because
this kid's last year, this scientist last name was Loomis,
isn't it Loomis?

Speaker 1 (31:55):
And then I'm like, why have we not revealed this?
Why have we not revealed that? Because I'm just there
the dinosaurs eating people?

Speaker 5 (32:01):
Well, yeah, I didn't like how they made that last dinosaur.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Uh look a little bit like maybe it needs some help, Yes,
like it needs a little help. Yeah, they just this
was definitely jumping the shark.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, this was.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Hey, guys, we're out of ideas. Let's create a dinosaur. Okay,
we already created a dinosaur in the last couple. Okay,
let's create a dinosaur, but we'll make it really weird.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
And then they did, and then somebody said, yeah, let's
green light this, and we all in the theater went,
what the hell is going on?

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah? What is happening with this?

Speaker 6 (32:37):
Dinas Hammond? John Hammond was the doctor or was the CEO?
What was the kid's name in gen.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Not get out one off the page, but let me check. Okay,
I'll be happy to check that.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
All right.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Sorry, so we're guessing Lord of the Rings. I'm gonna
say nineteen twenty.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Two nineteen forty five, nineteen fifty four, oh has joined us.
It was on this day Pamela Anderson married Kid Rock
and it lasted like four months.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Was it was kid Rock before or after? Tommy l
He was after that?

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Right?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah? I believe it was after. Yes, I'm going to
go ninety nine. I agree, I'll say two thousand. It
was two thousand and six. Oh wow, that late. This
was the day they were both in their prime.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
NASA was created today nine months after Russia to the
Russians Sputnik satellite into space.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
They lunch, spit, you lose, you lose spaces. American Losers
nineteen fifty.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
When did spotn it go up? Eight nineteen sixty seven.
It's either seven or eight. Al say eighty seven. I'm
gonna say eight fifty eight nineteen fifty eight. Job.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
It was thirty five year old Carl Lewis who shocked
the world on this day, took the gold medal in
the long jump at the Atlantic Atlanta Olympics.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, that was his ninth.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
It was like one hundred and fifty, only one of
two athletes to win the same event at four straight
Olympic Games, and again mostly an age thing. You just
get to a point where you out age yourself being
able to do that, and that was kind of what
he was there to show. I didn't I didn't outage myself.
That was ninety six. Yep, that was nineteen ninety six.

(34:30):
This was the day Bob Dylan was injured in a
motorcycle accident near his home in Woodstock, New York. He
broke a bunch of vertebrae, got amnesia, mile paralysis, and
this is what changed his voice. His voice and his
music were never the same after this. Wouldn't have been

(34:51):
funny and I mean it worked out better for I
was gonna say, you don't want to, you know, on
a motorcycle accident. But wouldn't have been funny if people
were like sucked and then he just always sucked and
then he had the But the motorcycle accent is what
made him good and people, I mean, you know, like
ironically it was the reverse of that though actually had well,

(35:12):
I just mean in songwriting, I mean his voice.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
But like what if he just kept writing songs and
people were like, dude, these are trash man, you had
like a couple of good ones. Man, what happened to Dylan?
But then he had the motorcycle accent, and they were like, Wow,
this guy's a genius. It's because again in motorazing, Like,
what if he didn't never was the accident what made
his songwriting from like nineteen sixty seven on some of
the greatest ever.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
No, because I think the albums before that were amazing too.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
I know, But I just mean, like, what if he'd
have flamed out? What if the accident was what like
triggered something so he'd still be relevant in the seventies, eighties, nineties,
four decades and number one albums? If you just flame?

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Are you trying? Are you bean ironic? No?

Speaker 6 (35:56):
I'm saying like, you'll never know because he had the
ac accident. I think he's the greatest songwriter of all time,
greatest songwriter ever.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I don't know who we're talking, but what if Dylan?

Speaker 6 (36:07):
But what if in the seventies, eighties, nineties, what if
the songwriting that he did which has made him relevant
for decades was only because he had the accident. And
what if like in nineteen sixty seven or something whenever
this was sixty six, sixty seven, what if he was
just kind of out of material and it was like, oh, Yeah, boy,
I'm starting to feel like I don't have anything lefted

(36:29):
right about I don't know, And then I know I unlocked,
like craziness at all. Lay Lady ley Nicols ed, what
are we yessing? I must say?

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Sixty seven, sixty four, sixty eight, nineteen sixty six. This
was the day Prince Charles and Lady Diana were married,
nineteen eighty one, twenty five hundred guests, Saint Paul's Cathedral
in London. This is one of the few times my
mother watched a television program that was not Little House
on the Prairie. She watched, she cried through the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
She watched it. It was a big production.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Like all of a sudden, TV became important in our
home for just one brief little moment where allah, oh,
why we've got to make crumpets or whatever the hell
she did strawberries.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
And you know, it's funny you say that when Kate
got married Princess Catherine, I went through a was that crumpets?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
What was my phase?

Speaker 5 (37:22):
I went through the words kind of like English muffins,
but it's not is that crumpet?

Speaker 6 (37:25):
Yeah, you went through a crumpet fans? I love them yeah,
well they have so many nice little holes, but I
think they're better than an English muffin nooks and crannies.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yep. Do you know how many people watched that wedding?
A lot?

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Seven hundred million people around the world watched Charles and
Diana get married.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
They, of course divorced in nineteen nineties. I want to
buy crumpets now you can. You can get them to say, you.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
Do, we have crumpets in our area if you get
it in the Bagel English Muffins Festival.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Is there a crumpets section at bakeries? Do they have crumpets?

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I've never seen a lot of bags. I've seen them.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
Manderfield's crumpets come like they're like little hockey pucks with
their pockets.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Cheeky crumpets. Yeah, that would be good. Yeah, warm crumpets
are good.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
Wow, Like what if you made a trumpet a donut crumpet?

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Oh, because.

Speaker 6 (38:22):
Cissan is fantastic. Then is America?

Speaker 4 (38:27):
He yeah, nineteen eighty one, Oh sure that's good.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yep. It was nineteen eighty one. And finally another marriage.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
It was Brad Pitt marrying Jennifer Aniston on this day
they divorced.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
I will never forget. Their vows were that she will
make him banana milkshakes every morning?

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Is that what it was one of the vowels. It
might not have been banana, but it was milkshakes.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
So I guess I didn't realize they divorced, and then
it was shortly after that she gave birth to his daughter, Shiloh,
brad Pitt's daughter. So so they do, Okay, so they divorced. Okay,
so she must have been pregnant while they divorced. I
guess I didn't realize the timeline here on all this
as I'm looking.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
At it right now.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
Well, so I have a vivid memory also of the
US Weekly on the cover they took like a divorce honeymoon,
and she was he was wearing a T shirt that
said trash as they were walking on the beach.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yes, yes, the big picture.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Yep, that's when I lived on Baitar Street.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
How long would you say they were married for that's
a really good question. Three years?

Speaker 6 (39:42):
No, I think seven, Okay, so that would have been
I know the answer. I mean, arbitrarily, I could just
say any number.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Should I tell you they got married?

Speaker 4 (39:51):
I can tell you exactly how many hold on what
when did Friends start?

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Forrest right, Friends? Certain four?

Speaker 4 (39:59):
No Friend started because I used to watch Seinfeld And
wasn't it right after Seinfeld for the last season?

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Was it not? They overlapped? Yeah, I think it.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
Yeah, ended in seven, so it'd been ninety seven. He
guest starred in Oh started in ninety four.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Okay, started ninety four.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
He guest starred in the Thanksgiving when she was pregnant,
so that would have been season nine, so that or
would have been season eight. So two thousand and two,
I'm gonna say two thousand.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
That's fine, sure, two thousand.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Yes, today is National Lasagna Day. Today's also National lipstick Day.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Put out a pig, they say, and it's still big.
That's what they say.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
International Tiger Day. Oh, National get gnarly Day.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Horrh Let's ride away. It is rain day one is
oh that's nice because it rain today. Yeah. And finally
it's National Chicken wing Day.

Speaker 6 (41:00):
Oh boy, we're really just throwing stuff around today.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
I mean we got lipstick, lasagna, tigers, gnarly rain, and wings.
These are a few of my favorite things. We got
birthdays and anniversaries coming up too. You can get those
in at nine two oh two eight one zero ninety
five nine Here at Kiss FM. This is ninety five
nine Kiss fmwhby news landon more as your good morning.

Speaker 8 (41:26):
Gas prices continue to fall in northeast Wisconsin. Gasbay dot
COM's latest survey finds the average in Appleton at two
eighty per gallon. That is down four cents from last week.
In Green Bay, the average fell five cents to two
eighty two a gallon. The national average rose one cent
and sits at three ten. The Mineta County Sheriff's Office
releases the name of a de Peer man killed in
a weekend motorcycle crash. Tobin Rukel lost control of his

(41:46):
motorcycle along County Highway G in the town of Franklin
around eight twenty five Friday nights and glided with another bike.
Rukel was thrown from his motorcycle and was pronounced dead
at the scene. The thirty year old brilliant man operating
the other bike was seriously injured. Investigators say speed and
outlcohol were factors in that crash, and the EA Air
venture was even bigger than first thought. The association has
some mended its attendant's numbers to an estimated seven hundred

(42:08):
and four thousand people for the week, eclipsing last year's
record of six hundred and eighty six thousand. Officials say
the estimate was increased following final numbers coming in from
the weekend.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
See this is why I knew the draft would be fine.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
You and your toilet pe off.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Here the Devil's Den double homicide that has been getting
a lot of coverage the last couple of days. Our
buddy Tony Bruski, unfortunately lives in the city this happened
in and he'll join us for True Crime Tuesday today
at eight thirty and we'll talk about what's going on
with that. This is the hikers, the husband and wife

(42:47):
who were taken with their children on a hiking trail.
When I say take it, I mean they were killed.
And we're going to talk to Tony and we'll talk a
little bit about what's going on with that. Coming up
at about eight thirty this morning on True Crime Tuesday.
Here a Kiss You're Catherine. About an hour from now
here at ninety five to nine Kiss FM Morning, Jonas
Katie and Nick and.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Signs you need to run.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Run from the relationship, Do not walk, Do not walk,
Run and immediately leave this.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
Is a great article that I was reading, and it
was a couple of days ago, and then I totally
forgot about it and I was going through tabs on
my computer.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I was like, oh, this is a funny one.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
It just made me laugh all out for people who
are in the dating culture right now, and even this
goes beyond even dating culture. It was signs you should
stay far far away from someone, run, don't walk. And
it was just an interesting read because I think everybody
can can relate to it. It did a top ten list,

(43:46):
but they're all some of them are pretty similar, but
essentially boils down to how they I guess you could
summarize all of them. How do they treat you to
your face and how do they treat you behind your back?
Number one, They treat you differently. When you're alone in
an intimate setting, you're their muse, But as soon as
you get into a group setting, they'll be more than
happy to belittle you and put you down in front

(44:07):
of others under the guise of just joking.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Around why this is a red flag? It is like,
it's just why would you be with this person? You're
a red flag? You're right, Why would you even hang
out with this.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
These aren't red flags. I feel these are just glaringly
you're dumb. If you spend time with this.

Speaker 6 (44:24):
Of number two, uh, they will diss you behind your back,
putting on a good show for the casual encounters. But
the closer you get to them, the more you can
realize that when you're around them, they criticize, mock, gossip,
and judge others behind their backs, especially the ones that
they call friends and loved ones. This is a little
bit of a little bit like the first one, A

(44:44):
little bit.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
How you treat the server is indicative of how you
treat Yeah, you kind.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Of on here.

Speaker 6 (44:49):
Yeah, that one is actually jumping down to uh.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Number eight.

Speaker 6 (44:56):
They speak poorly of and speak poorly too the most vulnerable.
Pay attention to how they speak of and speak to children,
the elderly, and especially those in places of service.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Sounds an interesting hot tip, guys.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
One of the reasons Melinda had any sort of attraction
to me other than apparently she thought I was attractive,
which is.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Weird but whatever.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
But one of the things was when I picked up
the kids from school, I got down on their level
to talk to them instead of get in the car
or you know, I guess was her experience get in
the car or the guys don't even come over.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
So it is a little bit about how you treat others.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
Kindness has an agenda, the scorekeepers, weaponizing kindness to hold
it over your head when it's most convenient for them.
They're the ones who play nice with the people they
know they can benefit from. But if you can't serve them,
they'll walk past you bleeding to death in a ditch.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Wo wow.

Speaker 6 (45:53):
They talk about themselves with an egocentric view on life.
Pay attention to how people address situations. If the words
I and me dominate speech, run it says in all caps.
These are instant gratifiers who fail to see themselves as
part of the universe, but instead the center of it.
They'll be happy to tell you how awesome they are.
Just ask them. They'll be happy to tell you how
much people like them and how positively they are received.

(46:15):
Pay attention to how they speak of themselves. Number five
a person who can't admit that they are wrong. Admitting
they are wrong comes only when there's an alternate agenda.
Everything is a debate they must win, wherein they must
have the last word, and usually the first as well.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
This person sounds exhausty. Number six.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
I don't know why these are red flags. These are
just why would you want to Why would you.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Want to be with this?

Speaker 6 (46:40):
Human beings a run don't walk. They take first. They
take first, they give later, and that's if they give
it all. They're perfectly fine never returning the favor and
turning that back on the giver. I didn't ask you
to bring in bagels for the office. That was your choice.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
I will gladly have one, but don't expect me to
do the same. Number seven.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
They say everyone else is the problem. This is a
classic that needs no explanation. If everyone else is always
the problem, if everyone is always causing them stress. Run
Number eight we talked about earlier, the way they speak
about people. Number nine they hate boundaries. As long as

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you serve them, they'll make time for you, But the
moment you set a boundary, they will weaponize it against you,
painting you in a negative light. And number ten, they
refuse to wait their turn. If you are in a
relationship with someone who is first in line, not only
as their game, but as their expectation.

Speaker 7 (47:37):
Run.

Speaker 6 (47:38):
This includes conversations business settings where they refuse to take
a back seat. They are to be heard and be
heard first, first in line, always in line, Run, don't walk.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I would say, if you're if you're googling, is this normal? Yeah?
Our relationship is supposed to be like this.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
How do I know if if my husband, wife, man, woman,
partner likes me? If you're googling or thinking those things,
if you're talking to your friends, if you're a guy
and you're talking to your friends about these things, that's
a sign.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Oh yeah, that chick's Cristy.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
I think, you know, we talk about the little voice
a lot in our head, and it's not a little voice,
it's just when you start what it is, when you
start talking to yourself.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Listen, like, listen to yourself.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
I think that the thing I found interesting about the
list because they are pretty like obvious, but when you
kind of zo well sort of though, like when you
zoom out on the list, a lot of these things
do take time to realize, and I think that's how
people get in a trap of bad relationships, whether that's
loved ones or friendships or marriages. It takes a little
time to realize how people talk about you behind your

(48:55):
back because they're talking about you behind their back. It
takes a little time for you to realize that when
they sit there and they go, we're just kidding, that
they're really being mean. Like the like number one, they
treat you differently when you're alone. It takes a little
time to realize that their kindness has an agenda. It
takes a little time to realize that when they're saying
I and me all the time, that that's they're an

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egocentric person, and it's not just while you're getting to
know each other.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
So of course I talk about myself, you.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
Know what I mean, Like kindness should be a basically
I found the list hilarious at first and then kind
of fascinating because I found that this is how people
get into relationships, and once you're in them, you find
out almost when it's too late, where you like, suddenly
you've been in that relationship for five years, And I

(49:42):
see how people get trapped because it takes a long
time to figure some of this stuff out. And then
when there are the as Katie's favorite term, gaslighting, whether
they are the gas lighting elements to it, which the
list kind of incorporates, you do start to then minimize
your elf within the relationship, so like you were saying, Oh,
it's the little voice in your head is telling you

(50:04):
maybe they're right, maybe I need to get over it.
Oh maybe they are just joking. Well, of course they
love me. And then you get into these settings where
as obvious as this looks to the outside, I actually
found the fascinating part of the list that it's when
you're in the midst of it, it's not that obvious.
You need that person to kind of smack you in
the face and go hey, dude, you don't even realize
what's happening behind your back, or you like hey, when

(50:26):
it's almost the voice of your friends or your loved
ones that are going to ring more true in this
setting where their friends go hey, I don't think they're
joking around, or like, hey, I don't think this is kidding.
I think that was mean, or hey, did you ever
notice they talk about themselves all the time.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Doing that in public?

Speaker 4 (50:43):
If they're treating you like that in public and making
you the joke in public, like leave that that should
be your punchline.

Speaker 6 (50:51):
Leave and take the Netflix password with you, yeah, and
then give it to me so I can watch that
WWE thing like.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Right, this is Katie, this is ninety five nine kids.
I've had mornings with Otis, Kenny and Nick. Tuesday, July
twenty nine, two thousand and twenty five. If you have
a birthday today, you share it with Josh Radnor Ted
on How I Met your Mother?

Speaker 5 (51:13):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna say, which one's Ted Mosby?

Speaker 1 (51:18):
The same the main guy, the likable one.

Speaker 6 (51:20):
Oh no, that's uh okay, gotcha, gotcha?

Speaker 1 (51:23):
No likable.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
I always feel like this is a show I would like,
and then I just never get around to it.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
I really liked it.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Same with that It's always sunny in Philadelphia, which every
time I watch it, I like it, but I don't
really get around to it.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I'm gonna say he is fifty two forty eight.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
He is up with the fifty one Ashley McBride country
singer did never wanted to be that girl with Carly Peers.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
I know that name Taylor confused with a million other singers, so.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Well, all the country singers have the same names.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
But like, seriously, a little bit to.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
My ears, I know McBrien, you're like, oh yeah, she's
Tate McCrae, or like you know, like what I mean
like it all just they all and I know Tate
McCray is a bad example, but it all just blends together.
Because I'm not a.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I'm not a huge country listener.

Speaker 6 (52:21):
I'll say forty because that seems easy.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Thirty forty two, okay, Will Wheaton, Will Wheaton. Will Wheaton
played a version of himself with the Big Bang theory.

Speaker 6 (52:31):
Of course he's Gordy and stand by me, he was
great as Gordy. Although although Gordy was the weakest cast
keeper of that movie, when I look back on it, like,
Will Wheaton was a good cast for that role. Yeah,
but you could have also cast I feel like a
lot of people in that role and it would have
been fine. I agree, Like for a guy who was

(52:53):
he was A. He's a critical member of that group.
He's the glue of the group. And I didn't find
him nearly as convincing as an adult now watching it
as I did as a kid.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Agreed, did it change the movie for you?

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Like?

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Does it?

Speaker 6 (53:07):
Man?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
I mean a little important? I don't remember how important
he is. I don't know that he's a.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
He's a great actor in the sense that he was,
and I don't think he's bad like this sounds really bad,
Like I feel like I'm trashing Will Wheaton. And I
don't have a really a problem with Will Wheaton, but
I feel like in that cast of characters, you had
an incredible cast of really good young actors who pulled
off these roles brilliantly, and I feel like he just

(53:33):
kind of was there.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Like, ah, you should have been a stronger character.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
And it's I mean, it's fine. I'll still watch it
and love every second of it. I just feel like
he was a little deserving of the leech in his pants.
He's on Star Trek like next Generation.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
Yeah, that's the big thing from Big Bank Theory. He's
a character on Big Bank Theory. I'm gonna say he's
fifty five.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
The safe Yeah, I agree with that, okay of it?

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Yeah, fifty three Danger Mouse snarls Barkley, Genius sixty two.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
I know who Jenior Mouse is, but I'm going forty eight.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
Oh yes, Alexandra Paul that Stephanie holding on Bayant, Stephanie
Holden and also, ironically the ugly one on Bait well, sorry,
the incredible one on Baywatch.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
You know, the smart one, but not the one anybody
was tuning in for for the Treppel, yet broke onto
the scene as the hot one in Dragnet, the Virgin
Connie Swale create unattainable Tony Sale, who then went on
to become the smart one. Lieutenant Stephanie Holden, Oh, Lieutenant.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I'm gonna say she's fifty seven. She's dealt with a
lot of stuff on that beach. She did. I've never
seen a single episode of Baywatch.

Speaker 6 (54:55):
Oh my gosh, you are missing out the most dangerous
beach in the world that everybody would just keep going.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
You didn't need a surfboard on.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
A like kidnappings, shootings, very tricky kidnappings, shootings.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Rip tides, bombs exploding.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
And then everybody was like, well, i'll see you here tomorrow, right,
Like they just packed that beach.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Why would you ever go to that beach?

Speaker 6 (55:16):
Drugs, Katie yup, syringes, washing up on shore, predators, and
yet everybody was like.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah, I can't wait to get to that beach.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
But that's how every one of those shows is, no
matter what it is, whether it's on a beach or
if it's what's the one with the nine one one,
all the different nine one you're like, oh my god,
these people have had a hurricane, a tsunami, they had
an earthquake, they had a MAVs gunman. You know, take
down everything in the world happens in like a three

(55:45):
month period.

Speaker 6 (55:46):
Everybody's exes would always come back, like ex boyfriends, Mitch's
X would show up, and it would just be chaos
and drama, although I suppose. I mean, if your lifeguards
are Yasmine Bleef, Nicole Eggert, you'd be showing and everybody's
showing up to that beach. Then you look out and
you get the Holden Tower. O great Stephanie Holden's Blair Tower. Today,

(56:09):
I'll say the Virgin County Swelle is sixty sixty two
years old. Janya Morris from Boys Boys Man, yeahs.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Back again? What he still is? He still in it?
Because somebody's done in it? Right? I don't know one
of them are right? Show one of them?

Speaker 4 (56:29):
Isn't there any or maybe two of them?

Speaker 6 (56:36):
Spot one of my favorite Katie Diary entries of all time.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Yes I'll make Love to you requests the song to
your like boyfriend boyfriend, I'm gonna say he's sixty three.
I'll say he's sixty.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
He is fifty two years Martina McBride, right, you know,
I don't know, but it's lovely.

Speaker 6 (57:09):
I thought, for sure, you go with Independence Day.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
I just I look, I looked at what I had,
and this is what I had.

Speaker 6 (57:16):
So it's always my favorite when we play that one
for like Fourth of July or or any type of
like America holiday and you're like, oh, you the one
about domestic abuse.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
Yeah, I saw a little Facebook fight happen about that
long ago.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
Yeah, people always a great fight. Was always really passionate
about that one. You know, I would talk about all
the time. He's like, yeah, this one's about domestic abuse.

Speaker 9 (57:41):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (57:42):
Like it's like the message is just lost on everybody.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
I'm gone.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
But I mean born in the US A gets played
on the fourth of July and on independent standards, shouldn't
you know, really really doesn't apply.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
I guess I don't know. What is she fifty five?
What maybe I said fifty seven? She's fifty nine? Oh?

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Tim Gunn fabulous project runway fashion consultant.

Speaker 6 (58:11):
And an occasional like just dude who just shows up
on other people's shows. And you're like, oh, it's Tim Gunn,
Like he just shows up as like a consultant or whatever.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
I think I could recognize Tim Gun if I had to.
I think if you saw him, you'd be like, Oh
that's Tim, Oh that's him. Yeah, I think you'd recognize
him if you saw him. I feel like he's really tall.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
But I don't know if he is. He just always
seems very tall. He's a very strong presence. Yes, yes,
well stated, I'll say he's sixty five. He is seventy two. Wow,
really looks great. Geddy Lee from Rush.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
Sea And if you're a Rush fan, you're a Rush fan.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
And if you're not a Rush fan, you don't care.

Speaker 6 (58:50):
Yeah, if you're not a Rush fan, it's very like,
would you stop preaching to me and just play like music?

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Why do you have to have a message all the time?

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Here?

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Just rock out my favorite. If you don't like Rush
but you like Triumph, I just don't think you get
Yeah again, does every teenage boy go through a Rush phase?

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Did you go through a Rush fase?

Speaker 10 (59:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (59:13):
I like Rush though I sort of like the thinking
lyric did you get online that?

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Did you go through the Pink Floyd phase? Still like
Pink Floyd?

Speaker 6 (59:22):
I know?

Speaker 2 (59:22):
So do I?

Speaker 6 (59:22):
You know?

Speaker 1 (59:23):
I'm not saying that their phases. Isn't you outgrown?

Speaker 4 (59:25):
But there's a time period in usually high school, early college, yeah,
early college. Everybody does the all men do the doors.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
I never like the doors.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Okay, I don't either, but I went through it because
people tried to convince me. So you do the doors,
you do Pink Floyd, you do Rush, and the Who
usually makes an appearance.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
To me, I've always found The Who a little overrated.
Oh big time.

Speaker 6 (59:46):
But yeah, I've always been a fan of lyrics that
you have to think a little bit. Three seventies now
I agree. Seventy three, seventy two. I don't know how
to say your name and I should missus? Bruce Bringsteen, Patty?
Is it Petty Skawfa?

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Is how you say it? Okay? She's in the band
with him, right or is she not?

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
She might be?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I think she is sometimes. I think she's sometimes in
the ban seventy five.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
Seventy three, seventy two, and finally, Ross Kelly, that's Pinky
and Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Pinky tuscannaro Y Yeah, eighty six, really fun name.

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
Does anyone else feel like Henry Winkler's become the new
diabetes guy that he's doing all these drug Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Yeah, he's got to show them.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
Yeah, he's got to show on the History Channel, which
is actually really good Dangerous History. I think it's called
or something like that. Yeah, it's pretty good. Eighty eighty two.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Oh, Happy birthday, Sierra Walker from Green Bay.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
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is forty three years old. Eleanor John janniek from New
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I'm doing good, wonderful good.

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Thank you for your farming. Yes, we appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Without you, we'd all starve to death. Bless you and
bless you again. Get under Sorry, let's just control ourselves. Maybe, yeah,
take care of the cuddle. Sporing is pretty high today,
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Speaker 8 (01:03:11):
Yeah, let's do it all right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
By the way, all of Nick's songs sound very similar
to that. Oh that one had a little different inflection
to it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Yeah, but they're very similar. Like you're it's like it's
Dylan doing Dylan stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
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what civilian name a pat On.

Speaker 6 (01:03:33):
The TV series Dukes of Hazzard, What is the name
of the car driven by Bowen.

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Luke Duke generally yes. In economics, what does the acronym
GNP stand for.

Speaker 8 (01:03:43):
A pat?

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What is fifteen percent of two hundred.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
Ah?

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Thirty? Yes? Who was the winner of season two of
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Speaker 6 (01:03:59):
In twenty Sprint merged with what telecommunications company?

Speaker 10 (01:04:06):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
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the animated film ratitudey?

Speaker 6 (01:04:12):
What Italian dessert is made from lady fingers dipped in coffee,
marscapone cheese and flavored with cocoa?

Speaker 8 (01:04:18):
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Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
What brain? Is the official soccer ball of the FIFA
Women's World Cup?

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Rawling?

Speaker 6 (01:04:30):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Well done? You know what? We'll give it to you. Yes,
I mean, why not? It may be Adidas, but we
will go with Rawlings. They make a good ball. Why
can't we use one of those?

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Like, I know, Like, why are you so against Spalding
and Rawlings and all the rest of the balls?

Speaker 6 (01:04:47):
Adidas is the official ball of the FIFA Women's World Cup.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
At least it was. I don't know what they're gonna
do next time, Probably still Adidas.

Speaker 6 (01:04:55):
Tira missu if you wanted lady fingers dipped in coffee
muscapone cheese and flavor the cocos. Ruben Stuttard, the velvet
teddy bear as they called him.

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I think that's what they called him, right, wasn't he
the velvet teddy bear?

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:05:09):
He was Season two of American Idol winner. Gross National
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That's basically what they did in the movie. Dylan shout
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Who was that? That that's my boy, Terry.

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the not getting them. But that's okay, Dylan. Let's try
this again a little over a month or so.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
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Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Kids, Mornings with Otis, Katie and Nick at seven thirteen.
Gonna be human again today. But we do cool off
starting tonight and tomorrow. So sunny, hot, humid, isolated afternoon
storms eighty five today that starts to cool off tonight.
That humidity drops and then tomorrow seventy five for the high.

(01:06:16):
It should be nice. It's seventy four right now at KSFN.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
So I was perusing the internet, the internet and my
few days off, and I think it's a fad, yes,
And I came across something and I know we've kind
of touched on it before, but it was very eye
opening to me because I feel like our generation right
now is all about unpacking trauma we didn't know we experienced.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Yeah, it's a little unfair to our parents.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
This is unfit, like this one is unfair to our parents.
But I completely agree, and I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
I don't know if it's unfair.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
We used to do this as yeah you know thirty
years ago, you did it when you went to therapy.
Now people are just doing it on the internet.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
Yes, So this is something that I think we can
flip the script on, okay, and that we can do
better by our children.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
What is this? So did you.

Speaker 5 (01:06:59):
Come from a sleep safe family or a not sleep
safe family?

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
I don't know what this means. So I did not
realize this either. Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
Sleep can often be used as a form of manipulation,
and this is where it does get therapy speak, but
it's it's and this is where people will seem it's dramatic,
but when you actually take a step back, you go,
oh my gosh. So when I was growing up my parents,
you had to be dressed, awake and functioning by nine
am in the summer. Okay, if not, you're a problem,

(01:07:31):
and things that taken away from us. So it was
it was you can't see your boyfriend, you can't do this,
you can't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Because you're not getting that being a productive member of society.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
Yes, And it didn't matter what time I had a curfew,
I abided by the curfew or it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
Struggles real I have a twenty year old who likes
to sleep, and so that's a real struggle in your head.

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
So the sleep safe families are the ones that go,
if you're sleeping, it's because you need it. Yeah, so
sleep as long as it is not affecting example, we
are not going to sleep through alarms and misworkah, Like
these are choices that you make, Like if you stayed
out till two am. We are not saying that your
body needs sleep skip work today. We're not saying that,

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but we're saying, for example, Brody had one of the
hardest tournaments I've seen him play physically and emotionally. Sunday
they played four games in that heat back to back.
They they were at the Diamonds by six forty five am.
We pulled into the driveway at eight thirty pm on
Sunday night.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
So yesterday Michael and I were both like, sleep, boys, sleep.
If you sleep until noon, you sleep until noon.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
If you want to take six naps tomorrow, you take
six naps like that is. And even last night he goes, Mom,
maybe I am sick, which he just got off of straps.
I'm like, you're this is not happening, because he was like,
I'm just tired, and I'm like it's okay, It's okay
to be tired.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
And we can sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
But it is crazy to think. And I know the
part that we've touched based on is is that why
is it in the when you wake up early in
the morning you're a go getter.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Yeah, there is a misconception about that. You know, people
who get up early and get things done are seen
I think inherently as better human beings than people who
get up later and still accomplish the exact same amount,
just in a different time frame.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Yes, different time period.

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
So I feel as parents that we're parenting now that
we can become sleep safe people and allow our kids
yes to sleep and to view sleep as and to
not because I didn't realize it was used as a
form of manipulation.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
Yes, I'm trying to think of how what do you mean,
Like when you say manipulation, you mean that the parents
who said you must be up by nine or we
take stuff away, that's the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Manipulation Because what what? What did they care?

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Because they're trying to I mean, I'm trying to look
at that parents perspective. They I think they think that
if you are sleeping all day long, you're lazy and
you're not awake during when normal people are doing things.
So you're missing an opportunity to do those things, to

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be that productive member of society, to get that job to.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Yeah, and if you do that consistently, you're always going
to miss that, I think is what's going on in
their head.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Well see, and I think about it too.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
My parents always said it was like their favorite thing
to talk about when they talked about my job, is
that they can't believe I'm a morning person because of
the way I behaved in high school. And this is
where I do feel like it was a form of
manipulation because I had a full time job. In the summer,
I was working, but I had a job that I
worked at the mall, So some days I was working

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noon to nine, like I was playing sports, I going
to camps, I had a boyfriend, I had a great
social life. So if I wanted to sleep until noon
on a Saturday, why do you care?

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Yeah, just the use of the word behaved is interesting
to me.

Speaker 6 (01:11:13):
Yeah, Yeah, it's hard for me to relate to it
because I had a morning paper at a Morny Sentinel route,
so I was up at three forty five four o'clock
every morning.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
So but now if you were to school, if you
would have went home and napped though and slept all day,
what would there have.

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
Oh, they would have been all right with it. Like
if if I got up to my room and crashed.

Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
Then you came from a sleep safe home, sleep save home.
I think that's what you're saying. Yeah, we have a
sleep save home right now.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
Because I have a twenty year old and he for
a long period of time after high school, was sleeping
all day. Yeah, but instead of punishing and yelling, what
I did is just kept encouraging. Yeah, I'd love you
to get up. I'd like to see you. He'd be
fun to see you. And now he is up almost
every single day. I don't know exactly what time, but

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he's snapping me and he's up and he's you, you know,
eight thirty to nine. Yeah, So it changed, and that
was just through encouragement. So I think there's well ian Ian.
I am saying, there are extremes to every case.

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
Of course, there are some that parents do need to
intervene and go wow, like like there are some lazy
kids that you have to straight out call call out
the laziness. But I'm saying but again, I'm saying all
all of us. And now it's so funny though, because
do you guys not feel guilty if you sleep?

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Not at all? I don't feel at all. Yeah I do.

Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
I feel like I know I'm not getting stuff done,
then I need to get done.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
Michael, Michael doesn't seem to feel guilty. But Michael will
get backlash from people if they call him and he's
not up, like and being like, what what are you
doing like, why it's it's nine o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Why are you Why were you sleeping?

Speaker 5 (01:12:47):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
I like sleeping on a Saturday. I go till nine regularly.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
Yeah, and I am very like after seven, if I'm
not out of bed, I'm going, oh my gosh, like
I feel awful.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Oh No, we are different people, see.

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
But you were. But this is what I mean though.
Were you raised in a safe sleep home?

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
I was in a sleep a safe sleep home. Yes,
they didn't care. And I am not a morning person.
I understand that I'm getting up in the morning now,
but my wife can't believe it. None of us can
believe it. None of us can believe that I am
able to get up and come to work like at
this time every day.

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
When I sleep in, My day is awful because I
beat myself up all day.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
Yes, yep, you do. I hear you talk about it
a lot. Yes, And you even have Michael in your head. Yes,
with well you both you know.

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
Yes, because Michael, yes and Michael Michael does that to
me too. But at the same time, Michael is that
has been done to Michael like and I it was
done to me growing up.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Jess says, now that I think about it, I was
absolutely manipulated in our house growing up. Sleeping was sleeping.
It was considered lazy, without question. This will show my age.
But my dad would make sure I was up at
six am on setday mornings to watch the show Mister Wizards.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Oh my god, I totally know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
He would make me do my homework on Saturday mornings too.
To this day, my dad still considers sleeping in lazy.
He's seventy five years old. He still gets up at
four am daily. Oh yeah, there was. There's a lazy
lazy label.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
But let's flip that script.

Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
If your dad goes to bed every day by nine,
then I see him as lazy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Why is he going? Yeah, yes, lazy? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Why not stay up later like the rest of us,
You lazy old man?

Speaker 5 (01:14:28):
Can I just say this too? If you utter the
phrase I'll sleep when I'm dead, I want to punch.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
You in there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
I want to put you too, because that sounds good. Dude,
you'll be there at fifty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Take that joy away from us.

Speaker 5 (01:14:42):
If I genuinely love a nap, and I do, it's
so it feels so good in a bed nap.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
There's nothing better than a bed nap. Why would nap
anywhere else? Oh see, I do like a couch nap.
Coach can't do it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:56):
If I nap on the couch, I sleep better at night.
If I nap in my bed, I'm not falling asleep
that night.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
The only place I can nap is in my bed
with my sleep app mask.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
I got it with the fan like.

Speaker 6 (01:15:06):
Yeah, I like a good floor nap where you take
the blanket and you just put it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Behind your neck and you lean back and conk out.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
Sometimes I like to nap from about rights down to
to peer. Yeah, that's pretty straight. Well, now they changed
the traffic pattern. He can't do it a little harder.
This is ninety five to nine Kiss FM. He probably
saw the news over the weekend. Husband and wife brutally
stabbed a death while hiking with their two daughters in

(01:15:34):
Washington County, Arkansas. Actually, that's where our friend Tony Bruski
lives and he hosts True Crime Tuesday, which is just is.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Terrifying for the whole community.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
He was actually on Ashley Banfield last night talking about this,
and we're gonna have him on as we do every
Tuesday for True Crime Tuesday, We're gonna actually delve in
to this. It's a kind of a fast moving case
that's happening right now. It's getting a lot of coverage,
and we're going to talk with Tony coming up at
about out eight thirty on Kiss FM.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
It's whby news Land in More right now on Kiss
Good Morning.

Speaker 8 (01:16:07):
Two people are arrested in connection with a homicide in
Green Bay two years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Please see.

Speaker 8 (01:16:11):
A forty year old man and a forty one year
old man were taken into custody. The men are suspected
in the shooting death of Carlos Oterra Alvilis outside in
an apartment complex in the seventeen hundred block of Western
Avenue back in November of twenty twenty three, and investigation continues.
A Tichietahkrectional Institution inmate who killed another prisoner will spend
the rest of her life behind bars. Taylor Sanchez is
sentenced in Fondealaike County court to life without parole for

(01:16:33):
first degree intentional homicide. Sanchez beat her cell mate Cindy
Schultz Judies to death in July of last year. Sanchez
was serving a three and a half year prison term
for battery to law enforcement and battery to an inmate. Schultz,
Judy's was serving her own life sentence for killing her
husband and someone in the Oshkosh area is one hundred
thousand dollars richer Today. A winning all or Nothing lottery
ticket was sold at the Quick Pantry on North Sawyer

(01:16:53):
Street for last Friday's drawing. It continues a lucky lottery
rue for Oshkosh, which has seen a two hundred and
eighty six thousand dollars Batcher five winning ticket and a
four hundred and thirty four thousand Fast Play jackpop won
in the past two months.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
It's was that an EA person or did that happen
a couple of weeks ago?

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Do we know when that all happened? We do not.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Okay, all right, well, somebody's got some cash. You're sitting
on some cash. Don't wash it, don't wash it. It
is kids Evans seven twenty seven Tuesdays, right around seven thirty.
It's dear Catherine. And this is where we take deer.
Abby's Katie's not hurt him. We read them to Katie,
we get Katie's opinion, and then we compare it to
Abby's and we find I don't even think we need Abby.

(01:17:34):
I'll be honest. I don't know that Abby's necessary. I
think we could get this job done with just Catherine.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
So here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
Dear Catherine ninety five nine, kiss FM KAYN.

Speaker 6 (01:17:44):
Let you select today because doors one and two are
completely different but kind of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
We got a we've.

Speaker 6 (01:17:50):
Got an X situation, and we also have a high
school flame situation, but they're drastically dead high school flames. Okay, Katherine,
I'm a forty eight year old woman.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Yesterday.

Speaker 6 (01:18:07):
He didn't find out texts until I signed it. But
I'm text girl. I'm a cowgirl, forty eight year old woman.
When I was seventeen, I hooked up with this guy
who was part of my friend group. I knew he
had a crush on me, so I decided to hook
up with him in his car. Didn't mean anything to me,
meant everything to him. No, biggie, He's tried to reach

(01:18:28):
me over the years. If I was married, he was single.
If I was single, he was married. After my first
husband died, I did meet up with him briefly to
hook up. Aw, I guess I shouldn't have done that.
I asked him, if you wanted to date, but at
the time he was married. Oh gross, and his marriage

(01:18:48):
didn't last last very long. And then he was upset
that I met somebody else and started dating. Well, the
wonderful man that I met and I are now married.
Old high school hookup now is pouting and is little upset.
Oh my gosh, he's declared his love for me, and
his insisting that I leave my husband for him.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
I'm not going to do that. I'm married.

Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
Is the fact that he's still in love with me
after thirty years kind of creepy. Son got history in Texas.

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
I don't understand why she's texting, like, what is this about?

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Because he is it? You just want to do you just.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
Want to send this in for validation from Abby that
somebody wants you, because like you understand that this man
has no power over you and can't tell you what
to do, and you can just cut off contact at
any time, which should have been done a long time ago.
And you're trashy because you slept with him when he
was married. So I'm assuming he's also thinking that you'll

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do the same thing, because if it was okay for
you to do it to him, why can't he do
it to you again. Just cut off contact, don't send
a letter to Abby, and stop being the trashy person
you are.

Speaker 6 (01:20:00):
I'm sure that's exactly what said. Yeah, it seems a
little griss again.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
This is a girl that a woman, I'm gonna say,
a woman that I would be friends I'm a woman, Ladies,
I would be friends with her, and I'd be like,
what are you doing? Yeah? What are you doing? I
don't think you'd be friends with No, I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:20:16):
I don't know. You know what, do you know how
i'd be friends with hers? We were friends in high school.
And then you just feel guilty. You can't shake her,
you can't get on, and then you're going, oh my gosh,
we have to meet for lunch a couple of months.

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
This is where you need the rolodex of excuse me, yes,
so that when they call you can just go to
your sheet and you can say I got a.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Hockey yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:20:37):
And then I come home and I tell Michael everything
about it, and he can't follow anything that is going
on in this human's life.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Did you say you had to think on with the
hockey team. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:20:46):
I was ancut like that rolodex I feel like you
got to update that Rollodex.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Can't come. He's got a thing with the hockey team.

Speaker 7 (01:20:54):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
It was somebody I was watch material. I'm not the
greatest liar. Okay, I'm just not a great liar. My
best friend was on the other day team's hockey.

Speaker 6 (01:21:07):
I'm not good at lie. Well, maybe I don't know.
Maybe that is a good lie. Maybe that is like
it's so far character would question right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
They'd be like, wow, I just kind of think with well,
I mean, I guess he does do nonprofit stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Maybe it's some sort of hockey.

Speaker 6 (01:21:19):
It was exposed down the road and be like, hey man,
we're going to the gamblers game. You come in, dude,
I hate hockey. A couple of years ago you said
he had a thing with the hockey team, and we're
all whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:21:30):
I was, So I do, now that I think about it,
I do have friends like this person in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Oh no, And you hear that, Carrie, you know, I know?

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
Well, No, I was really proud of Michael the other
day because Kelly was over and we were talking about
something and about how we should set this person up
with another person, and the person we were referring to
was just like this woman and Michael from downstairs yells
this woman's name, and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
I was like, yes, yes, that's exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:22:00):
And I was so proud of him because I was like, yes,
you are in June with my circle.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
You do listen, Oh Michael, that's true love.

Speaker 6 (01:22:09):
I do always love when there's discussions in groups about
people possibly being set up with other people and then
someone is very vocal and just like, no, no, it's
not gonna wank disaster, No chick's a disaster, or like
no I'm not that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Dude's a mess. But that's why Michael was like, becuse
it was two disasters. We were pretty.

Speaker 5 (01:22:29):
That's why Michael from the base and was like, oh,
you're talking about this person.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
And I was like, yes, what did Abby say?

Speaker 6 (01:22:35):
I'm actually really surprised by this one, which is why
I took it, because when you first read it, you're
just like, well, this is this is the lame reason
to write to Abby.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:22:43):
But I said to Katy this morning as we were
sitting there, I go, I got a couple of Abby's.
One of them, I can absolutely hear what you're gonna
say about this, and it was you are trash.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Listen. To Abby's response, dear, got history in Texas?

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
Please talk about Please tell me, she says that there's
obviously some unresolved issues that you need.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
To work through. Okay, sorry, it's sort of not okay. Good.

Speaker 6 (01:23:06):
It appears your old high school hookup hasn't grown emotionally
since your days together either.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
Is she right? What is going on in his head
isn't romantic. It's disrespectful to the woman who's having random
whatever stringing them along.

Speaker 5 (01:23:21):
Which, by the way, though you're single, yes, you could
have random hilcups all you want.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
A sexual appetite is healthy.

Speaker 5 (01:23:32):
I just think it's I may not be hungry, but
that doesn't mean other women can't be hungry.

Speaker 6 (01:23:38):
It's just me.

Speaker 7 (01:23:39):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:23:40):
His unwillingness and inability to move forward is somewhat creepy.
She strung him along since they were seventeen? Yeah, yes,
like literally just She flat out says it meant nothing
to me but everything to him.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
Whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:23:54):
Okay, let's see say that when you tell him to
quit bothering you and your husband and get on with
his own life. Say that, oh, say that that you're
getting creepy when you're when you tell him to quit
bothering you after that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:10):
Do you know why she doesn't want to tell him
that she's creepy because she likes the attention.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Yes, she does.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
And she likes the fact that it's a pick me
girl that doesn't get picked very often.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Yep. Anytime she needs she needs them, you will be there.
She likes her side piece, uh huh.

Speaker 5 (01:24:26):
Yep, we're going to get a text her. She likes
the attention and the fact that someone else wants her.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Yep. Yeah, I was.

Speaker 4 (01:24:31):
She's the girl that wears the exact same outfit to
everything she goes to because it's the one that sty one. Yeah,
this guy got the black thing and look at the boots,
and this is what I wear and this is where
I got. Everywhere I go, I wear this and this
is what and then like and then I always duck
face it and I'm like, and I put everything out.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Do you know what's funny?

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
When I get dressed for Brodie's baseball weekends, I get
stressed out about, oh am I wearing the same shirt again,
And there's only so many shirts you could wear.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
I've got never crosses. Everyone always had something like the
dance shirt, the soccer shirt. Yep. That's the same way
because it's like, oh, what's your team color this year?

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
I think I got Why do you think I own
so many orange things?

Speaker 5 (01:25:08):
Because I have finally moved past just wearing a like
Cocana basketball or Cocana baseball, And I'm like, now, as
long as I just incorporate orange.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
I'm five. Sometimes it's black, yeah, or black and orange.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
She doesn't want to tell them off because she wants
to keep him on deck for the next time.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
I just see. I can't see Katie killing it with
the response thank you, Chelsea. Yeah, Chelsea.

Speaker 6 (01:25:30):
I read Abby's responsible twenty times, like did you did
you read the same letter I'm reading here. She's been
streaming the guy along since they were seventeen.

Speaker 5 (01:25:39):
Because sometimes I think Abby thinks too well of people
that that's not why she would be doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Hemmy hasn't been out in the real world. She doesn't
know what's really going on.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Because em let's play around a family feud here on kiss.
We've got Leo on the phone along with Mark Leo
and Mark.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Hello, Hello, Hello, all right, we've got Leo chose Katie
as his teammate.

Speaker 6 (01:26:03):
Mark.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
That leaves you with Nick it's gonna work just like
family feud, except you guys don't have buzzers. So Leo
and Mark, you're gonna buzz in by using your name.
I'll say a question here. If you think you've got
an answer that fits, say your name, and we will
come to you to get that and keep it, you know, pg.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Thirteen. Ish if you couldn't all right, here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
We asked one hundred married men, named something of your
wife's that you might be holding in your hand?

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Leo, Leo, what do you got.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Her id?

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Her id? Is it her id? It is not cool?
We go to mark her keys? Is it her keys?
We got a katie.

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
We asked one hundred married men, name something of your
wife's you might be holding in your hand, her heart,
her hearts? That is almost the last answer. Do we
give Nick a chance to beat it?

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
Nick? Do you want to try to be We're gonna
say she needs it to hold that purse and my purse.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
Number three answer is purse. Would you like to play
our past? There are two for five more? Five more?

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
Nick?

Speaker 6 (01:27:18):
Oh, I think we gotta play. Yeah, we gotta Mark,
we gotta do this. We're gonna play.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
We're gonna run the table.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
Mark, We're gonna go to you for this one. We
asked one hundred married men name something of your wife's
that you might be holding in.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
Your hand.

Speaker 6 (01:27:30):
Her phone, her phone, a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
It's gotta be number one, number five.

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
Oh yes, Nick, very eager, name something of your wife's
you might be holding in your hand.

Speaker 6 (01:27:40):
Mark, otis Katie? You know these Wisconsin because they are dirty.
We're gonna say her rear, ah, is it her rear?

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
Her rear? And is not? No Mark?

Speaker 6 (01:27:52):
Sorry about that, Mark. I just thought everybody was dirty,
by the way dirty.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
I support that. I actually double checked that list and it. Wow,
I can't believe it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
That's totally.

Speaker 6 (01:28:00):
That's like the whole uh, that's like the whole mean
thing where they do the nodding of all the celebrities
going nodding, nodding. As a guy walks by his wife
in the kitchen, they do the nod like you have
to mark back to you. One hundred married men were
asked name something of your wife so that you might
be holding in your hand.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Her wallet, wallet? Is it wallet? Her purse? Slash money?
So we'll give that to you, honest.

Speaker 6 (01:28:22):
It started with those little mop tops from overseas the
Beatles when they said I want to hold your hand,
you're holding her hand.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
You're just hand in hand? Is it hands? Number one? Answer?
A hand was number one? Yes, back to steal. But
the booty isn't on there?

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
Huh, back to you, Mark, We've only got two two left. Oh,
I'm gonna get at the buzzy nick nick to you?

Speaker 6 (01:28:59):
Otis so the back court wasn't there. We're gonna move
to the front court. You're hanging you got those in
your hand. Oh, I should be a dirty one on
this list?

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
They're hanging out of the twin? Is it? The front?

Speaker 6 (01:29:14):
Life is Yeahlly.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Finally, the Sickos win one answer left. Mark.

Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
We asked one hundred married men, same name. Something of
your wife's you might be holding in your hand. You
got this, Mark, I don't think you do.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
I think Mark.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Only one left. This is good.

Speaker 4 (01:29:40):
And Katie, you have one answer left and you can
steal that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Which number it is?

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
It is the final answer on the list of two, four, six, seven,
final answer on a list of seven.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
This is where I thought booty would sit.

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
Yeah, right, yeah, And you guys can talk amongst yourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
You have any ideas.

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
I have one, but I think it's so far out there,
and it's the dirtiness of it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
It is the feud.

Speaker 9 (01:30:11):
Like things that she tells me to hold the whip,
lass or keys or well, I got nothing in sight.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
My thought process is if Otis is hearing me correctly?
Her innocence?

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
Okay, No, I know what you're saying. Yep, I know
what you're saying. I do know what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Le yep, leo. It's going to be your decision.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
We asked one hundred married men named something of your
wife's that you might be holding in your hand.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Yeah, I guess it's okay, We're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Do that one. All right, we'll go with the medical term.
Is it their innocence?

Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
It is not the final lamps. And I don't know
that you ever would have got it. I really don't
think you would have got it without a clue. Her gun.

Speaker 6 (01:30:52):
Oh my god, Oh, I know how I was trying
to the Only one I was thinking was maybe her drink, Like, hey,
can you hold my drink?

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
I can't believe mine wasn't on there. Now at this point,
I'm a little disappointed to you.

Speaker 6 (01:31:04):
All Right, here we go she's nothing but a two dimes.
Leo and Mark bring in with your name. We asked
one hundred women name something that's more satisfying than a man?

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
Mark, Mark, what do you got.

Speaker 6 (01:31:21):
Her girlfriend?

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Girl? Is it her girlfriend? No, it's not Leo. Leo
has a hundred married men name give it to you.

Speaker 4 (01:31:36):
Name something of your wife's that you oh, no, sorry,
we have some one hundred women.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Name something that's more satisfying than a man? Oh, Leo,
do you uh?

Speaker 11 (01:31:46):
Her toy is.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Yes, okay, Yeah, it's good. Yep, her mom, Yeah you have.

Speaker 4 (01:31:51):
That was the number four an er number five answer
out of six. Do you want to play her past?

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Leo? I think we'll play right.

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
We asked one hundred women named something that's more satisfying
than a man.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
Leo back to you?

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
Food? Food?

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Is it food? Food? Slash chocolate top of the list.

Speaker 4 (01:32:17):
Her television like her shows, her shows, her stories.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
I gotta get my stories in guys, not no, Leo,
back to you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:26):
We asked one hundred women named something that's more satisfying.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Than a man.

Speaker 6 (01:32:29):
That's because Michael fully satisfies Katie shopping.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
Is it shopping? And his number three answer is shopping
Katie back to you and I'm going to go drinking drinking?
Is it drinking? Wow? Katie? Two buzzes to zero, they
asked Leo.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
We asked one hundred women named something that's more satisfying
than a man. H Nope, I don't want to buzzy.
I don't know what you said, but a guitar.

Speaker 10 (01:33:10):
Music, music, music, music, he said, music guitar didn't say
until after the buzz So, but well it's on.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
You know, No, that's three because you know that was three.
So market, Nick, you can steal it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
You can get the win.

Speaker 6 (01:33:25):
Your name something that's more satisfying than a man. Mark,
I feel like we already talked about one that's gonna
be on the list. Sleep because they've they're they're a
sleep saf home, a good nap. I think you might
have the ladies night like or a lady's out day
out of the spot like, a good massage, a pedicure.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
I feel like there's a lot of answers here. Mark,
it will be your.

Speaker 6 (01:33:48):
Your original answer, Mark, I think should have been on
the list because.

Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
Mark, we asked one hundred women name something that's more
satisfying than a man. Markets your decision, what do you got.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Sleep? Is it slack? This one?

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Mark?

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
Chocolate, money shopping success, Bob's and massage?

Speaker 6 (01:34:15):
Those are shoot, yes, sorry, Mark, that's okay. We got
a tiebreaker. Now it's a ton of breaker. Here we go,
Leo and Mark ring in with your name.

Speaker 4 (01:34:28):
Name something you'd hate to find out you did while
on a date?

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
Mark, Leo?

Speaker 6 (01:34:36):
Mark, what do you got forget my wallet?

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Get your wallet? Is it forget your wallet? It is not?

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Leo?

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
Oh, I don't understand this question at all. Thought your
last one was great. To Leo. Name something you'd hate
to find out you did while on a.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Date, blind day with a family member.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
Yeah, you don't want to show up and find out
it's a family member?

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Oh my god, Mom specifically, Yeah, so I happened? Is
it by day with a family member?

Speaker 6 (01:35:18):
Not?

Speaker 5 (01:35:18):
Nick?

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
We go to you. I am going to say you
have soiled yourself?

Speaker 6 (01:35:23):
Oh you know you you thought you thought you could
get away with it, and.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Yeah, you're gonna make it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
Yeah, wet your pants is the number five answer?

Speaker 6 (01:35:35):
Nick?

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
Would you like to play or get the opportunity?

Speaker 6 (01:35:38):
Katie can beat why we already went though we didn't
go yet?

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Though I didn't understand. I didn't know that that was
the rule.

Speaker 5 (01:35:44):
I like they they both got an opportunity, I an
opportunity to beat him.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
Okay, what name the question? Again? This is the dumbest.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
This is the dumbest family feud question because it inherently
doesn't make sense because it would have to be named
something you found out you did after you were drunk.
But that's not what it says. Name something you'd hate
to find out you did well on a.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Date, forgot your date's name.

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
Forgot your date name? Is it forgot your date's name?

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
It is not.

Speaker 6 (01:36:15):
I'm confused about this topic as well.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
Mark. Would you like to play or pass the way?
You have to play now, don't you? No?

Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
No, okay, I'm going with all.

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
Right, that might be a safe play here, Leo and Leo,
we go to you. Name something you'd hate to find
out you did.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Well on a date, got too drunk, got too drunk?

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Is it got too drunk? Okay, well, now I'm really confused.
You threw up? Threw up? Is it threw up? It is?
Top answer is threw up? Leo?

Speaker 4 (01:36:51):
Back to you, Name something you hate to find out
you did well on a date?

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
Hill food on yourself spilled food on yourself. It is
not No, didn't use protection?

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
Oh yeah I didn't use it. Yeah, I know you
would have war.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
A little bit. I listen.

Speaker 6 (01:37:18):
I think any answer is a bad answer because I
don't really get this.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
I mean, why didn't you be horrible if you woke
up and you were like.

Speaker 4 (01:37:24):
WHOA, yeah, I didn't write. I mean yeah, is it
not using protection? No, it's not.

Speaker 6 (01:37:32):
Mark and Nick, you can steal this ridiculous question with
just one answer. Names names something you would hate to
find out you did while on a date.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Mark, I have no idea.

Speaker 6 (01:37:44):
I mean I guess, like split your pants? Like is
it one of those that like you were on a
date the whole date, and then you got home and you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
Started to like nothing but the date.

Speaker 6 (01:37:52):
Yeah, well, like you were getting ready for bed, you're like,
oh my gosh, this whole time my fly was down
or my pants were split.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
That's the only I could think.

Speaker 6 (01:37:59):
If you walk home and you're like, oh my gosh,
wardrobe issue.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
Let's go with that one. Is it split my pants? No,
this is the worst win and I am so proud of.

Speaker 6 (01:38:21):
I'll take it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
So yeah, so put out, stripped married proposed tattooed danced.

Speaker 12 (01:38:31):
On the table, so I didn't use production is not
so crazy, It's actually not no like I don't know
man like you will. I can't believe I got tattooed
on that date. What does this happen?

Speaker 6 (01:38:45):
I don't know, but Leo, I had the crappiest dating
life apparently where I was really boring.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
I wasn't getting tattooed, Like none of this was happening
on my dates.

Speaker 4 (01:38:53):
Leo, you got tickets for Sunday's Green Bay Blizzard playoff
game at three o'clock at the Rest Center.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
Thank you, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
This is Kiss Tuesdays every Tuesday about eight ten or so.
What are you listening to? Look at our playlist? What
else is on besides Kiss FM? Nick, what are you
listening to?

Speaker 6 (01:39:11):
I've been in a mindless streaming sort of mentality right now,
like doing housework, ironing, putting laundry away. I'll just pop
on something streaming and try to reconnect with a show
of my youth that I always enjoyed, and just to
see like what's out there? Like are there Family Ties
reruns out there? Night Rider eighteen? Even Stevens Saved by

(01:39:33):
the Bell and say whatever whatever I can find. I
unlocked a desire that I didn't even know I had
recently to reconnect with my t NBC roots Saturday Morning,
right after the paper out nineteen ninety two, in an
attempt to capitalize on the success of Saved by the Bell,
but also to pour the foundation for the inevitable news

(01:39:56):
Save by the Bell because at that point Kelly and
Jesse were on their way out. Nobody was going to
get behind the Tory Scott era. That was terrible. It
was just an awful era of Saved by the Belt.
We launched a new teen drama series. It was based
in California, basically took the best parts of Saved by
the Bell, where they're like, what do people like about
Saved by the Belt? Well, they like the band stuff,

(01:40:18):
they liked the hangout spot, they liked that whole season
of summer at Malibu sans.

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
Those were great. Everybody seemed to respond well to those.

Speaker 6 (01:40:25):
Perfect How about a series only about that stuff and
the complexities of balancing adolescents with the fast paced world
of music entertainment. Show was terrible, way too upscale, way unrelatable.
The beach was not nearly dirty enough to think that
I could actually hang out at the beach with these guys,
and these musicians didn't help launch the careers really of

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anyone other than Kelly Packard, who was on Baywatch for
like a little while. Totally forgettable show and a totally
forgettable theme song. But it is stuck in my head
and it's rattling around in my ears.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
It was Hallifornia Dreams, Surf Dudes with This was the show.
Yeah heard of it.

Speaker 6 (01:41:10):
It was like a week Saved by the Bell attempt
to take a group of kids who had had a band,
but we're also still in school.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
It was touff Man, do you to me? Surf Dudes
with Attitudes, Ya moves?

Speaker 7 (01:41:29):
They are.

Speaker 6 (01:41:33):
Terrible, terrible show, and yet it was on for like
seven seasons because they just shoved it down your throats.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
With Saved by the Bell. There was a basketball show.

Speaker 6 (01:41:44):
I can't remember the name of the basketball one with
all the kids who were on the same basketball team whooped.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
Something hoop hoop dreams or something like that. It was Terrible.

Speaker 6 (01:41:55):
Dreams.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
Yep, until my dream is done California.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
You know, maybe it's a good thing that my mom
didn't allow me to watch TV now that I'm listening
to this.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
This was awful. Yeah it still is. Yeah it was.
It was terrible. Oh, hang Time, It just came to me.
That was the name of the basketball show, Hangtime.

Speaker 6 (01:42:19):
And then they had like a they had like a
reality show too, like a game show kind of reality
double up or something like that, which was always.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
A good source of jokes on the playground.

Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
That was like it, Oh, look, cat Nick is listening
to you. Dreams the main theme from the TV show
of the.

Speaker 6 (01:42:36):
Same seasons one and two, though they switched up the
theme for season three.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
Katie save us for the love of God, please give
me some justin Bieber California dreams.

Speaker 6 (01:42:46):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:42:47):
It was the last weekend of travel Ball for the Broads,
so it was a lot of his playlist just because
we traveled.

Speaker 4 (01:42:55):
Yeah, shocking and travel streams that you had traveled. Also
he did hird, but he did okay, So traveling and
ball were included in vel.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:43:05):
Yes, so in his preteen era, they've discovered rap.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Yes, yes, well that's when we all discover it.

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
And thankfully I'm a huge Kendrick Lamar fan, so I
do allow that because at one point I was trying
to get him to. I believe one of our listeners
caught me saying, you need Jesus, and I wanted to
play some Jesus music for him as we were walking
to the car, and she was like, this is a
really good way to get my kid to not ride
home with me. She's like, I need to use that

(01:43:35):
because he had the choice between driving home with me
and Michael driving back to the hotel. And he was like,
I don't want you Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
I love that. That's good stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:43:45):
Which, by the way, my Jesus music was Forrest Frank Like,
it wasn't even.

Speaker 4 (01:43:50):
Like you standing up for yourself in your musical taste.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
So we've had Kendrick Lamar, okay, and this is the
one he requires. Oh this is this is his walk. No,
but he just life goes on.

Speaker 8 (01:44:08):
Honey, my babies woke up looking for the Barkley keep
a horn.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
I don't know why there can't be Jesus music that
sounds just like that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, there's.

Speaker 6 (01:44:20):
You get all your your Christian music spans all genres.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
That's what I mean by I was totally like, I
mean like, yeah, yeah you are, You're totally ha money past.
But I get him splashed, tell me how south he spoke.
All of Kendrick Lamar's record was feeling.

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
Do you did you radio clean? Or the go my God,
that's Michael him watching rain Man.

Speaker 1 (01:44:48):
I don't think I think he'll get man. I think
he'll get oh yeah, the content. I'm not worried about it.
I think he'll get poored.

Speaker 6 (01:44:56):
Okay, but I've heard that boys the mouth that with
all the I have the clean.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
Version, but it's my husband who when we play the
clean version, well, this is a bad version. You know,
monkey see monkey, Do I get it?

Speaker 6 (01:45:11):
A little bit of write a passage in your early
teen years of listening to the fully explosive lyrics, feeling
like you're doing something wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
That's like Katie is listening to Squabble Up by Kendrick Lamar.
We had her friend Amber over in the pool on
Saturday or Sunday, I can remember, but we we always
we bring out our little Amazon thing and we started
telling it the play stuff, and I just said, just
play our playlist and she goes, I feel like I
hear this song every time I'm here, and I go strange.

(01:45:37):
I have like nine hundred songs on my playlist but
the same twenty just keep appearing. And I always say,
shuffle my likes, so it should just randomly play whatever,
And so I started calling it. I started telling her
what songs would be playing. I said, at some point,
we're going to hear this song. This was the first
one I said. I said, at some point, we're going

(01:45:57):
to hear this song. And he came within six songs,
it was there. Out of nine hundred and some songs,
this one played within six. I'm not even sure why
it's on my playlist except that it's fun Chelsea Dagger.
It just gets me pumped off anytime I hear it.
It's perfect. It is perfect drive in music. Why it's

(01:46:20):
on my playlist, I don't know. I don't even like soccer.
I feel like it's a big soccer theme song.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
What commercial was this in?

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
It was in something A couple? Yeah, yeah, is that
maybe how I got it? Like, I'm not even sure
where I would I got this from, but I love it.
It's the Fortellis you ast me a cow?

Speaker 6 (01:47:01):
She was, Wow, see you little Steven around the back
of the HOS.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
I just realized I didn't even pay the attention to
their swears no, I have no idea if there are
are there do we know? I don't know. I don't
I don't know the words. Is only know is that.

Speaker 5 (01:47:18):
It was sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
My boy is nag. I was hasty, I was bound.
He was all the worst of men. Jim mccaf So
that's what I've listened to.

Speaker 4 (01:47:32):
It's Chelsea Danger, It's the Frittellis. Nick is listening to
the theme song for California Dreams as one texture to
brilliantly describe it unappreciated awfulness.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
Yes, very bad, Katie.

Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
It's Squabble Up by Kendrick Lamar.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
Just think what are you listening to? We Want to Know?

Speaker 4 (01:47:54):
Nine two oh two eight one zero ninety five nine close.

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
Our friend Tony Brews.

Speaker 4 (01:48:00):
Joins us for True Crime Tuesday Talent Audience. It's coming
up in eight point thirty on ninety five to nine
Kiss FM Morning totis Katie and Nick. Every Tuesday we
talk with our friend Tony Bruski. He's a fond delact
native and he hosts Hidden Killers with Tony Bruski. It
is a podcast available wherever you get podcasts, and in
a strange twist, one of the things that Tony's podcast

(01:48:24):
would be following right now.

Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
Is actually something they are following right now.

Speaker 4 (01:48:28):
It just happened to happen in the city Tony lives,
which just makes it even more eerie. And this has
been all over the news the last couple of days.
This is the couple that was murdered at Devil's Den
as terrifying. This is an awful, awful story, Tony. I'm
so sorry your community is going through this. Tell us

(01:48:49):
a little bit about what is happening for those folks
who haven't quite caught up on this.

Speaker 9 (01:48:54):
Yeah, and oh my gosh, put it in perspective a
little bit. This community is all about outdoors, all about hiking.
We have I think the largest outdoor bike track trail
basically in the nation. It goes hundreds of miles, it
spans everywhere beyond that, we have beautiful hiking.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
It's what people do here.

Speaker 9 (01:49:11):
It's a lot like Colorado in northwest Arkansas. So it's
a Saturday afternoon, this last Saturday, just a few days ago,
about one thirty in the afternoon at Devil's Den State Park.
I know it's an ominous sounding name. It's a beautiful park.
It's one of the most popular in this state. People
come from all over to hike there, so it's a
busy day. It's a beautiful sunny Saturday, about one hundred degrees,

(01:49:32):
so pretty hot out there. And this couple named Clinton
and Kristin Brink are out of the trail. They just
moved to Northwest Arkansas about three weeks ago, roughly from Montana.
He took a job in a dairy company for being
a driver of dairy trucks, and they're settling in. They're
getting to know the area. They took their kids out
for a hike, to little girls aged nine and seven,

(01:49:55):
and they're enjoying their day, enjoying Northwest Arkansas, and a
strange man approaches them on the trail wearing all black black,
dark black shirt, long sleeves, pants, a big backpack that
you wouldn't take out on just a normal hiking day.
And from the accounts of the children that we have
exclusively reported here at True Crime Today, that we found

(01:50:18):
out directly from the nine to one to one dispatcher
who was on the calls right there as the girls
called into nine one one with the assistance of a
park ranger the children, here's what we found out as
the man approached the family, The man, the suspect here,
came up to the father and allegedly stabbed him directly

(01:50:39):
in the chest. What the wife, The mother was right there.
The children alleged that they heard the mother's scream why
are you doing this? And then told her two little
girls to run as far and fast as you can.
The account directly from the nine to one to one
dispatcher states that the little girls told them that they

(01:51:01):
ran as far and fast as they could, and this
is the line that kills everyone until they couldn't hear
their mother screens okay, And eventually a good samaritan, another
hiker on the trail came across the kids brought them
to the ranger station, to which they called nine one one,

(01:51:21):
and this all began to be reported.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
The man got out of the park.

Speaker 9 (01:51:27):
He apparently is driving, from what we understand, a black
four door sedan. Some are describing it as a Mazda
of some sort. Other reports that we've gotten in here
at True Crime Today report that it might be an
upgrade from that it's a European four door sports car.
Some think it might possibly be an Accura b in
W maybe a little bit higher and than a Masda.

(01:51:49):
But there's no official word on the car yet, authority
is simply describing it as a Mazda. There is now
a sketch artist that has created an image and actually
it from again reporting here a true crime today. From
the witnesses that we talked to who witnessed the man
on the trail, they saw him but an hour or
less before the crimes were committed. They were out walking,

(01:52:13):
they saw this man coming up on them. They got
really weird vibes out of him stared at them. They
are the ones who provided the description of the man
and who also now have provided the information for the
police sketch that we now see out today.

Speaker 4 (01:52:26):
Tony, didn't they also didn't they weren't they so weirded
out by him on the trail that before they knew
anything happened that they had reported him as suspicious?

Speaker 1 (01:52:36):
Miss did I misread that.

Speaker 9 (01:52:37):
They did not report him as suspicious right away.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
They did not.

Speaker 9 (01:52:41):
Find this out until the next day actually, and then
when they found that out, then they started calling the
tip line that the Arkansas State Police put out. The
problem with that, and I've been critical of this from
day one, from the moment of this. The tip line
that they put out, it was not manned well enough.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
I tried calling it.

Speaker 9 (01:53:00):
They tried calling it multiple times, and it rang and
rang and rang and then hung up on you. Uh
So I brought a little light to that. I believe
it's been fixed now. But yeah, there first forty eight
hours there were a lot of tips coming in that
didn't go anywhere because somebody couldn't figure out how to
work the phones. So I hope not much was lost.

(01:53:22):
I hope people were able to get through. That number,
by the way, plays into this a little bit. And
this is completely random. It's four seven nine seven, five
to one six six six three add the six to
the devil's n double hommit side and that.

Speaker 4 (01:53:38):
That's just bad planning, I would say. But that's just
one of those things where you just, you know, you
wish I could go back and change it.

Speaker 6 (01:53:44):
Yeah, I know it's way too early, Tony to even
have the answers to pretty much every question that you'd
possibly have. It's but how the couple that encountered him
on the path, is there a lean in the sense
that do they feel like that couple just got lucky,
or do they feel like this was a targeted attack

(01:54:06):
of the specific couple that unfortunately lost their lives.

Speaker 9 (01:54:09):
That's the million dollar question right now. Was this man
out to kill? Was he planning? Was this a premeditated,
planned attack. The answer to that I would say is yes.
But was it targeted as to a specific group of
people or a specific person. That's the big question right now,
because the man appeared to be on a mission from

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everyone who's seen him to do something. He had this
weird backpack, he seemed, the way he was dressed all
very very awkward. The backpack very likely carrying the weapon.
Who knows if there was more weapons in there. And
did he just choose who he thought was most vulnerable
and passed by the couple that we talked to. It
was for them, the couple and their brother in law

(01:54:53):
and a sister and a dog. And did he think, well,
maybe that's too much and just keep going and somehow
landed on this mother and father and their two children. Again,
if you're putting yourself in the mind of a killer,
not a great choice either. Because the kids ran away
and saw everything. The kids also said that he was

(01:55:13):
a stranger. The kids did not recognize the man so
that tells us that it likely wasn't to know a
close family member.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
Or anything of that nature that the kids would recognize.

Speaker 1 (01:55:23):
How, Tony, do we know? How how the kids are?

Speaker 4 (01:55:27):
I mean, that's such a stupid question, but I mean
that's my first thought, is my god, these poor kids.
Do we know anything?

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
Are they safe as they can possibly believe?

Speaker 6 (01:55:34):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
Yeah, there's safe as they can possibly be right now.

Speaker 9 (01:55:37):
They are with loved ones, they're with family members who
are taking care of them.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
But I can only imagine.

Speaker 9 (01:55:43):
The they're probably only beginning to know. They're seven and nine,
So trying to unpack something like this, even knowing that
you have to unpack something like this, might not, you know,
truly come until they're older and are able to really
feel the gravity of of what took place here. Certainly
they're they're hurting, their crying, but this is something unfortunately
that's when to be with them for the rest of

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their lives.

Speaker 4 (01:56:05):
Texter asking how old the kids? They're seven and nine?
So what do we know right now? We don't know much.
We know we don't know the exact car, do we
We don't know. We know that the license plate was
partially covered, but We're not even sure what part of
it was covered.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
Was that the tags was it like what? Okay?

Speaker 9 (01:56:23):
So what we do know is that from descriptions of
white male and from our reporting here late twenties, early thirties,
bright bloodshot, blue green eyes and the stubble on his face.
Wore dark long sleeves, pants, fingerless gloves, a hat, carried
a large vinylin mesh.

Speaker 2 (01:56:41):
Backpack, not a hiking backpack.

Speaker 9 (01:56:42):
Looked tactical, according to the witnesses we talked to, stared
them down, and it was.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
It was odd.

Speaker 9 (01:56:49):
The vehicle of black ford or sedan, possibly a Mazda
Accurate or BMW very loud exhaust to it, possibly a
manual transmission taped over license plate. And that's all we
know as of right now. There is an image out
there is I said that sketch that has come out.
We were talking with the couple the other day and
my thought was, well, why don't we have a sketch

(01:57:11):
by now?

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
It sounds like you guys could help an artist do it.

Speaker 9 (01:57:13):
So we got them in touch with an FBI sketch
artist or a Stay Police sketch artist, and that sketch
you see now is coming from that, so we have
a bit of an image. I'm starting to get emails
in just before I talk to you from many people,
and this always happens in a murder investigation.

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
Is it this guy?

Speaker 9 (01:57:28):
I'm getting pictures left and right, and privately I'm sending
them over to the family that saw the man, asking
is this the man you saw me? So far, I
don't have a solid hit on a solid picture yet,
but the sketch they said to me, they believe the artist.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
It portrays him very accurately.

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
Man, all right, so we don't know a whole lot.
We know that.

Speaker 4 (01:57:51):
The next steps, I would assume is they try to
backtrack until they can get it. I would assume they've
already gotten this at this point, but maybe not. They're
going to try to because when you're in a state
park like that, there's no camera or almost no cameras.
So what they were going to try to do, I
would assume, is backtrack till they see a car that
matches the description on a camera somewhere anywhere around that area,

(01:58:14):
and then start to kind of piece it together from there.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Is that the next step.

Speaker 9 (01:58:18):
They're looking at everything at this moment, and there surprisingly
are more cameras in that park than people realize. Okay,
so there's that, and plus this is people are serious
outdoors people here, They're wearing go pros, there's all that
going on. So there's a good chance that people have
him on camera, and we're likely going to find that
in the next handful of days. There are a lot
of eyewitnesses that saw this man, so that will continue

(01:58:40):
to help in at least the sketching area of it.
But I imagine we're going to have an identity fairly
soon or somewhat soon. And then yeah, then it's searching.
It's trying to find who where this guy is after
leaving the park that day.

Speaker 4 (01:58:53):
All right, we're talking with Tony Bruski. He is a
host of True Crimes, Hidden Killers with Tony Brucek and
we're talking about the murder of Clinton and Christian Brink.
This is the Devil's Den double homicide that happened over
the weekend, leaving a seven and nine year old without
their parents. And unfortunately this happened right in your area,

(01:59:14):
right where you live, Tony, And we're.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
So I hiked there.

Speaker 9 (01:59:17):
I hiked there many times with my daughter, and it's
it's a very scary, scary thought to think of. It's
something I've never thought of when hiking in a beautiful
place like that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:25):
But now it's going to be on everybody's right.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
Ye, Tony, we will check in with you as we
do every Tuesday around eight thirty. Please keep us up
to date on this and everything else you're following. And
thank you for everything you do. And uh, and hug
your girl and and hug your wife, and and we
wish you the best.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
All right, you too, Thanks.

Speaker 4 (01:59:43):
Tony's kiss all right, trying new food so you don't
have to. It's kiss FM. So we're not gonna try it. Yeah,
we're gonna try it in three minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (01:59:50):
We got to tell people what we're gonna try and
what exists because I didn't even know this exists.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:59:55):
So when you guys, when you guys were off read
Eddie and I us, we're talking about this cinnamon toast
crunch bacon flavor. It's not the bacon. It's not the
cinnamon toast crunch flavored bacon. It's the bacon flavored cinnamon
toast crunch.

Speaker 1 (02:00:09):
But I see this again, what is this is? This
is Hormel, right, So this is cereal.

Speaker 6 (02:00:13):
It's black labeled bacon orst but it's got the in
the dust as Hormel.

Speaker 5 (02:00:18):
Baby, here's what And favorite person Lindsey from Thank You Lindsay. Yeah,
I'm not gonna say where she's from because she said
she had to pull favors together.

Speaker 4 (02:00:26):
So here's my question. I got a couple of questions.
First of all, it doesn't come in a normal cereal
I was not expecting. And it's made it's basically made
for dry snack. And is the is the I don't
want to dry cereal? I want to I want to milk.

Speaker 6 (02:00:40):
Yeah, well they have milk in the cover, which surprised
me a little because I thought the intent was dry snack.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
Or is this going to be the way we now
do cereal? I eat no, I eat cinnamon toast crunch.
If you're wondering what this big looks like, go to
our Kiss FM Facebook.

Speaker 6 (02:00:54):
Yeah, Golden Grams. I eat dry all the time. It's
a great snack and cereal taste it.

Speaker 4 (02:00:59):
Next Kiss f ninety five nine kids have had morning
totis Katie and Nick and one of our afternoon guys, Eddie.
Eddie has popped into the studio because Edward and Catherine
were on the air together for about a week and
had a whole discussion about something I didn't even know exist. Yes,
it was Yeah, why did we start talking about this?
It's cinnamon toast crunch bacon. This was this was a

(02:01:21):
story I saw this.

Speaker 3 (02:01:22):
Yeah, because the they did bacon that was Simon toast
crunch flavor.

Speaker 11 (02:01:26):
So while they reversed it and made the cereal like that.

Speaker 4 (02:01:29):
So so I found bacon flavored things never work. No,
if you flavor something as bacon, it never works. So
we'll be this will be interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:01:39):
I'm smelling it as your reaction you can only imagine.
And it smells like dog trees. Oh yeah, it smells
like a bacon strip.

Speaker 4 (02:01:49):
This so this is cinnamon toast crunch with Hormelle bacon
apparently dusted up.

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):
It's in the Cinnadela because they used to they they
did know they did Hormelle bacon. Like, yeah, that smells
exactly like a dog tree. I'm having a real hard
time with us.

Speaker 11 (02:02:08):
Would change if you add the milk?

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
I want milk? Do you have milk?

Speaker 11 (02:02:11):
Do we I don't have?

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
Somebody's got chocolate a dog.

Speaker 4 (02:02:17):
I've sort of becoming Okay, let's pass it around, just
dump a little in a.

Speaker 11 (02:02:26):
Okay, you pull way too much in that pile for us.
I'm having I'm having one to get.

Speaker 1 (02:02:32):
Yourself there, trying, trying, trying weird, so you don't have to.

Speaker 11 (02:02:39):
I don't know if I'm offended or if anything. That's funny.

Speaker 1 (02:02:41):
All right, there we I got one. I'm gonna do
two or three, do a couple of not awful.

Speaker 4 (02:02:46):
If you can't handle us chewing on the air, then
here you go. Wait, it is awful.

Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
Started out better than the finish.

Speaker 3 (02:02:53):
It starts off better than it finishes. Absolutely, you are
dramatic a drum. I'm that.

Speaker 4 (02:03:02):
Okay, here's why good. It gets chemically, that's exactly.

Speaker 11 (02:03:07):
That's exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:03:09):
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:10):
Says a metallic taste to it. So would you do nine?

Speaker 11 (02:03:13):
How much is that?

Speaker 6 (02:03:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:03:15):
We have to ask Lindsay, lindsay, I.

Speaker 2 (02:03:16):
Will, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:03:17):
When you're Katie and you're a big deal, it's.

Speaker 4 (02:03:19):
Free Katie or Lindsay. I'm not going to vendo you
because that's true.

Speaker 1 (02:03:23):
I'm not regretting using a favor to get this stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:03:26):
From the reaction.

Speaker 3 (02:03:28):
This is all I mean, I think some kids will
like it. No, I think so little kids will like anything.

Speaker 1 (02:03:36):
Dogs aren't even gonna like Mike, you'll eat it. Like,
maybe it's not bad. It's just not good. No, No, that's.

Speaker 3 (02:03:44):
It's the It's it's not like offensive bad. It just
it just doesn't do anything for me, if that makes
any sense.

Speaker 4 (02:03:49):
It's like it lives next It lived next door to
a a company that made bacon flavored products, and it
wafted in because it does.

Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
It's I get that. It's like a bacon fla. I
know it's not horrible, it's just not good. Again, I
prefer real cinnamon toast crunch.

Speaker 4 (02:04:07):
Yeah, it's kind of like a piece of bacon cinnamon
toast crunch.

Speaker 6 (02:04:10):
Sat at a campfire and then came back inside and
you're like, yeah, ran in a campfire there you go.

Speaker 11 (02:04:14):
Yeah, I don't know if i'd go buy it, but
I mean, I'm not mad for trying.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
It's okay, this is okay, Lindsay. Don't pat yourself up.
I don't think Lindsay was beating herself up. I think
she was. I would have at least lied. Oh yeah,
that's AWESOMEZ.

Speaker 11 (02:04:29):
We love you.

Speaker 1 (02:04:31):
Good. We're not blaming you, lindsay you'll appreciate this.

Speaker 5 (02:04:35):
Old Roxanne is at the front desk and she sent
me a message and she said, you're black market snack supplier.

Speaker 6 (02:04:41):
Just dropped off. I got a guy. Hey, you guys
need something, I got a girl. She can get anything
you want. What do you want old snacks from the nineties.

Speaker 1 (02:04:52):
She's got a man peebee crisps. Wouldn't that be great? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:04:58):
I could bring back a pack of baseball Carutch nineteen
ninety still has gum in it. Just picked one over
the weekend. We get tastest of gum.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
I love that gum that Actually, I would be all
up to try that. Yeah, I bet you. I still
have some of the basement. I'll have to look.

Speaker 11 (02:05:10):
I gotta find my know for sure I have some.

Speaker 6 (02:05:12):
I do have a few unopened packs where you could
hold the wax pack up to the light at a
certain angle and you could see who the back or
the front card was, because it was worth more money
if you had a good card. And I still have
a score set with Chrisabo as the top card.

Speaker 1 (02:05:26):
Yeah, rookie, I know you guys talk cards that I
shut down.

Speaker 4 (02:05:31):
Yeah, I stopped listening to because.

Speaker 1 (02:05:35):
Of your husband. YEAHSD, What did you learn today, Nick?
I grew up at a sleep safe home. Yeah you did.

Speaker 6 (02:05:42):
I didn't really, Yeah, I didn't realize it. But my
parents were always very good about that. If you want
a nap, nap, because they probably did too, they wanted
to do.

Speaker 1 (02:05:50):
I learned that this is awful, but it's growing on me.
It's weirdly like, yeah, I'm curious if in the introduction
of milk would a little bit.

Speaker 11 (02:06:00):
I think so. I think you need milk for this one.

Speaker 1 (02:06:03):
Okay, let's milk it up.

Speaker 11 (02:06:04):
I'll bring some milk tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:06:05):
Go on to get milk. I like that part two. Tomorrow,
I'll eat some at the huddle.

Speaker 4 (02:06:09):
I learned that there's a huge chunk of Americans that
want our drinking age to be lowered. And I can't
imagine any of them are bartenders.

Speaker 1 (02:06:19):
Any of those are all the bartenders like otis Katie
and

Speaker 7 (02:06:26):
What's his Althom