May 7, 2025 • 27 mins
Kratom has been gaining popularity in recent years, but what's the real deal behind this natural substance? Is it a miracle cure-all or a dangerous drug waiting to be regulated?
In this episode, join host Lisa Urbanski as she delves into the world of Kratom alongside the knowledgeable Christopher Deaney. Together, they unravel the uses, misconceptions, and essential factors to consider when purchasing Kratom.
From its origins in Southeast Asia to its current status in the Western world, we'll separate fact from fiction and give you the lowdown on what you need to know about kratom. Whether you're a seasoned user or just curious about this trendy supplement, this episode will give you a comprehensive understanding of the real deal with kratom.
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📱 You can explore Christopher's organic botanicals and connect with him on his various social media platforms by visiting: Christopher's Linktree.
🌐 To learn more about kratom and its benefits, you can visit the following resources:
kratomanswers.org
https://www.americankratom.org/science
In this episode, join host Lisa Urbanski as she delves into the world of Kratom alongside the knowledgeable Christopher Deaney. Together, they unravel the uses, misconceptions, and essential factors to consider when purchasing Kratom.
From its origins in Southeast Asia to its current status in the Western world, we'll separate fact from fiction and give you the lowdown on what you need to know about kratom. Whether you're a seasoned user or just curious about this trendy supplement, this episode will give you a comprehensive understanding of the real deal with kratom.
🔗 Explore a wide range of premium Kratom products, including 4-Way Split Kilo, Kratom Extract Tablets, Kratom Tea Bags, and more at https://christophersorganicbotanicals.com/
📱 You can explore Christopher's organic botanicals and connect with him on his various social media platforms by visiting: Christopher's Linktree.
🌐 To learn more about kratom and its benefits, you can visit the following resources:
kratomanswers.org
https://www.americankratom.org/science
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh on, Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Advisor.
My name is Lisa Urbanski. Super pumped today to be
talking to Christine. He's got a Kreatum store, and I
know that I heard a Kratum about three months ago randomly,
and I found out I'd be doing this podcast episode
with Chris, and I was so excited because I wanted
(00:21):
to find out all the details of this product that
everybody is going to want to know about before we
get started. I want to thank our sponsor, speaker and iHeartRadio.
Without you guys, this would not be possible. Hey, welcome
back to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yes, Hey, how you doing. Thanks for having me again.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah. So this is crazy. So I hear about Creatom randomly.
Now we're talking now, I want to know more and
I know the audience is going to want to know more.
So let's break down like long term Creatum use what
do you need to know? And like just give the
audience more information because this is so new, but it's
(00:59):
like so fascinating, it's like the future.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It is. It's very interesting. When I first started, when
I found out about Creatum, started using Credum regularly in
twenty sixteen, there wasn't any science. The science was very limited.
It was a lot of hearsay. Most of my information
I got was from Indonesia, from the farmers and labors
and people that were using it and have used it
in their families for thousands of years, one hundreds of years.
(01:25):
And they were just telling me, hey, we've been using
this forever. There's guys that are eighty years old, been
chewing leads for fifty years. I'm like, okay, well, you know,
nobody's dropping dead from this. Let me see what else
is going on. You know. Then I started really using
it myself more often, and I noticed, I said, you know,
I feel better. You know, I don't feel it's a
negative thing. So I'm glad the science is out now
(01:45):
we can actually prove that it isn't.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So let me ask you this, Are you a science
experiment yourself or do you like to see the results.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I'm my original science experiment from when I found out
about credom because I had no idea. I didn't know
anything about dosage, how much to take not to take,
you know, whether you eat not eat. You know, I
didn't know anything. So I was just right now and
I was just trying it. And the worst thing I experienced,
Like at one point I took about ten times the
amount that I take right now. It was making a
(02:18):
slurry thing. I was trying to make this thing to
where you make it concentrated and then you would like
evaporate water out of it, make just for home, making
these little creton balls or whatever that are concentrated and
not thinking I was mixing stuff up and I thought
that was my regular credem tea, and I drank it,
and worst experience. I was like, oh my god, you
(02:38):
just get real nauseous, like you know, like when you
feel like you're getting nauseous and your body warms up
and you're just like, oh, like it's just it's rough.
But that's the worst that happen, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So it's like drinking too much green tea that does
like that, whatever is the in green tea does that
to me on an empty stomach.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, And that's what I learned. If I take Creative
on an empty stomach, even to this day, I may
get nauseous first thing, and so I want to drink something,
eat something something, you know, to get it in your belly.
But I occasionally, you know, most of the time I
do take right about an empty stomach. But what I
do in the morning is I don't take the amount
that I normally take. I'll take a calf and start
(03:18):
getting off easy with it. So I'll take a calf
in my scoop, and then as I get on with
the day, four hours later, I'll take my normal amount
after I've etail. So I've experience very well.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's interesting because you know, people hear about like these
natural plants and you know, marijuana and fret them and
all this other stuff, and they're afraid to try it
because they're scared of what it's going to do to
their body. But then they get a prescription from the
pharmacy with like five pages of possible side effects and
they're like popping those like no tomorrow. And it's just
(03:53):
why is the mentality like that? Why are people afraid
of natural stuff that grows on our beautiful earth and
it's meant to be there for a reason, like it's innate,
we're supposed to find it. I feel like this is
all part of the journey of the human experience, you
know what.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
But you're right, though, You're right, because I've read a
lot into how we're here and how Rockefeller was involved
in making sure we don't know about natural remedies, and
a lot of different things that happened over the last
hundred years, and there was a really I really feel
like there was a big push, whether it was one
hundred years ago whenever, you know, all this started to
(04:32):
where all these natural remedies were like pushed underground, Yeah,
where nobody They didn't want anybody to understand this. They
didn't want anybody to find out about ratom. They don't
want people to find out about any medicinal plants. And
that's the thing. And when people do finally discover them,
it takes a lot of education. It takes a lot
of time. You know, people get frustrated. They're like, you
(04:54):
know what, I just want to take a pill, get
over it. I don't want to learn about all this.
It's too much trouble, you know. And that's okay at
some point in your life if you're busy, But at
some point, do you want to just keep being on
all the pills and keep adding one on top of
another on top of another. You know, if I have
to take I say, I got to take two pills
a day, one for cholesterol, one for my heart. The
(05:14):
cholesterol one's a little debatable too, and I've tried coming
off of it. I don't know. It doesn't work with
me and my body's weird. But I could be on
ten medications for all the other issues that I have,
and I don't. I use plant medicine for that. I
think that's the biggest thing. People just get frustrated or
they just don't believe in it. They think it's nonsense.
(05:35):
People have tried, Like even me as a kid, teenager
in my twenties, I tried a lot of natural remedies.
My parents aren't the Chinese medicine, so I tried all
these things, and people would rave about something, Oh yeah,
this is the best thing ever, and I try it
and I'm like, I didn't do anything. What are you
talking about? You know? So I think that's a lot
of it. But when you have plants like kret them
with fifty alcaloids in it, it's a very powerful medicinal plan.
(05:58):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's uh. People like having like the pill bottle that
says take one a day at this time and be
done with it. And I think it gets a little
complicated when you have to experiment and figure out what
works for you and take it at the same time
and take it with different things. And people like consistency,
but I personally like what works. So if more people
would know about this stuff and more people would give
(06:24):
it a try, I'm sure it would make a bigger impact.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And it is yeah, and people sometimes try creating for
the first time. And I still say the best way
to take it's not capsules, it's not extracts, not all
that stuff. Just make a cup of regular kretim take. Yes,
it's bitter. It doesn't taste great. The extracts are bitter,
so don't think they're not. They have bitter taste too.
It's very hard to get that bitterness out of creatum.
It really is. A couple guys have done it. They
(06:48):
have a couple of products in the market that are
really good. They masked it pretty good. But you know,
I think that for the best way of understanding it
and feeling the plant is taking it as the whole plant.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Okay, So what is it traditionally used for? Can you
just walk us through that again?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Sure? In Indonesia, Malaysia, Thaighland, Southeast Asia, it's been used
for one hundreds of years as traditional medicine. So what
people would do it would be give people energy for
the laborers that are working long days in the field.
People would actually take credum for diarrhea, for coughing. There's,
like I said, over fifty alcohois, so there's almost you
(07:27):
could look at it, maybe fifty different applications for this plant.
So if you look at each alcohoid, people have used
it not just for energy, but for relief. There was
people that were in Indonesia that were in pain. They
had no other they really didn't have they're eighteen hours
from the city. Recently, in the last couple of years,
they finally through kreatim cultivation in Indonesia, which is amazing
(07:49):
too what they're doing for the farmers out there in
the villages. Because of kretim, they were able to fix
the roads so between the villages and the areas cretum's harvested,
it has to travel. It used to be eighteen hours
to get to Pontianac and they bring it by truck,
so they're driving eighteen hours with giant sacks of crumbs
of kretum crumbs in these trucks bringing them over. Now
(08:12):
they reduced that time to fourteen hours because they built roads.
So this is what they're doing. There was villages that
only had twelve hours a daylight. Now they're they're lit
up twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
This is really the way they've lived their entire lives.
They've Oh, everybody's families has a kretum tree and their
property just so they can pick. You know, I'd love
to have my own medicinal garden. That'd be amazing, just
to be able to go outside in your backyard and
just pluck the leaf from here for that and one
of these for that. You know, that's great quick doing.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
How it would be labeled like a garden, like a
big stack anxiety Ye boost my mood, give me energy?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah right, and they come here, here's one for this
one for that.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Instead of like parrots, cabbage, it's like all of your medications, but.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It doesn't anything. Yeah, they have a lot of medicinal
plants out there that they use. So Maringa is another one.
A lot of people ringa maringa kind of creative and
Maringa kind of look the same and at least round
down into a powder, not belief itself. But you know,
there's so many things out in nature. I remember seeing
the list back in the day of all the medicinal
(09:21):
plants that they work with. It's not just creatom the
creative maringa. There's just so much there. It's it's amazing.
They use everything everything in nature.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I've been hearing a lot about maringa. I do a
lot of research on natural remedies. What is the difference
between that and creatim.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Maringa is basically a whole like a whole food, like
a whole plant type food. I notice it gives me
a little more clarity. I do take maringa daily too,
so I notice it gives me a little more clarity,
maybe a little bit boost the energy, more stable energy.
I don't notice too many outward effects from it though,
(09:58):
if you know what I mean. But I think for
its general health benefits. You know they're studying. I'm sure
they don't know everything about maringa either, and they're studying
what it could be good for in your body. That's
why I swear by the whole leaf cretum powder, because
there's something we don't know everything yet. I really something's
in that that is helping somebody's whole body. There's more
(10:19):
to it than just feeling energy or relief or better mood.
I think there's other things going on that really are
helping our body stay whole, you know, like I bring
back to my dog. That's my other experiment. My pitbull.
He's thirteen, he's going on fourteen soon. He was born
with bad knees. He was never able to really run
around and play. We started on kretum when he was
(10:41):
four years old and he runs around, plays, it just
does everything still to this day. And I mean he's
almost fourteen, so evidently it's doing something for him.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I want to get into the responsible use practices of CREDOM,
But I have a question you So, it does creatim
interact with anything? It just should someone be concerned about,
you know, some of the things that they're taking already.
Maybe it's medicinal, maybe it's prescription, And what are the
things we need to know about that?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, I would definitely watch out what you're doing. Don't
mix creatum with medications. If talk to your doctor about it.
If your doctor really doesn't know, most doctors don't know
about it anyway, And I'm not a doctor, so I
can't give you that information. But I be careful. There's
a couple instances where we know that the higher concentrated
extracts and like benadryl, we're having some kind of interaction.
(11:38):
You know, obviously opioid painkillers. Uh, one of Cretum's alkaloids
is an opioid, actually an opioid blocker. So some people
have said that it kind of canceled out the opioids
when they took the cretum with it, and it really
didn't work. Well, there's you know, there's too many things
that we do in the United States. We don't just
drink kreatum or you know, take our prescription. We'll take
(12:02):
our prescriptions, drink creat them, then go get a red bowl,
a couple of cups of coffee, and then somebody's drinking
something else. So there's so many things going on. You
want to limit the things going on. If you want
to try kreatim, try to try kreatim when there's not
all that other stuff in your body. You know, I've
tried it. When I first tried creatum, I tried it
at the opposite times of when I took my medication,
just to be on the safe side. Nowadays, I honestly
(12:24):
I take my medication and my creatium around the same
time every night, So that's just me. That doesn't bother
me one bit. But you gotta be careful mixing things.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Together, even supplements.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I would think so because some supplements, Like right now,
there's a kind of a conversation going on about drinks
on the market mixed with kava and kraatim. Some people
are saying the mix a kava in kreatim goes great,
and then other people are saying, no, that was giving
me a problem or I wasn't feeling good from that,
you know what I mean. So I don't know. Everybody's
(12:57):
body is different. So there's people, there's millions of people
that drink creative makava drinks all the time, no problem
at all. Then there's that littlepportunities that they have a
problem when it mixed. So I like just using the
plant by itself, and if I want to try kava,
I'll try kava later. I do that. I just got
a bunch of samples from Fiji, so I have to
go through that. That's a big preparation with the strainer,
(13:21):
and I'm not too familiar with it. So I'm going
to learn that too.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I guess now, oh interesting. The science experiment continues time,
So let's talk about that. The long term users, what
are a few core habits that they typically like to follow.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, for me, I use it for pain. Everybody knows that.
So people who don't use it for that, people who
are using it just for occasional things and a little
bit of energy here and there. Give yourself a break,
take a tolerance break. I tell people at least once
a week, take a break. Don't use it every day
all the time, unless you're really dealing with something that
you have to use it all the time. For any
(14:02):
other reasons, try to give yourself a break a little bit,
you know, just to let we call it. Let your
receptor reset, let your body reset. It's what anything. If
you're drinking twenty cups of coffee a day and then
you don't drink coffee the next day, you're gonna be irritable,
You're gonna be cranky. Well, you don't want that day. Yeah,
you have a headache, so you don't want that to happen.
You kind of limit your amount, take a day off,
(14:24):
you know, it kind of makes let your body clear
everything out. So breaks are important. Rotating different types of cretum,
trying a green, then a white, and then a red,
you know, not taking the same exact one every day
all the time, trying to you know, mix it up
a little bit. I notice with me personally, if I
take the same credum for more than a week, it
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doesn't seem to have the same effects. So I have
to switch it up a little bit. But I also
don't take so much that killing myself my receptors. So
I'm trying to give myself a balance. I stayed about
I take about everybody ask me what I take. I
take about twenty rams a day total, split up between
four about four times. So that's that. I don't feel
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like I need cretum when I wake up in the
morning until my pain lets me know. I don't feel
like I have that urge for anything except for my coffee.
So I use myself and as an example, take breaks, rotate,
and use it in moderation. You know, don't don't go overboard.
There's no sense in going overboard with one thing. With
create them less is more, that's the most important. So
(15:30):
when you take too much credim, it'll make you tired,
It'll make you feel lethargic. It'll make you feel like
really relaxed, and that's great for later on at night
if you want to. You know, if I take twice
the amount that I normally take normally take, I'll feel exhausted,
I'll feel tired, and I'm ready to go to bed,
even if it's a green. So everybody's like, ah, I
thought green was for energy. I said it is if
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you're taking it in that amount that gives you energy,
which yeah, everybody's got to figure out might be four
grams something like that. If you move it up to
nine grams or eight grams, either you're gonna get it's
going to make it tired, so and you're taking too much.
Your body's like god, it's a little too much for me,
so right yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
As like I mean a former addict, I think I'll
always be an addict. It's that mentality and getting out
of that habit of more and more, because when you're
addicted to substance, you just want to do more and
more and more. You need to in order to chase
that you know, initial high when you're using drugs to
get a reaction, right, but you then learn that you
(16:30):
know less is more, in terms of stuff like this,
because yeah, it has a negative impact then, so that
makes sense. But it's it's the mentality to train yourself.
It's difficult, right because you want you want to feel better,
but you got to switch that.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And it's very difficult to get past that, especially even
people that don't have an addiction or addictive mentality, because
everybody in the world thinks you take more, that's better.
So it's hard to put that flip that script around
in your head going wait a minute, that's let me
take less, let's try less, because it really does the
less you take, the better it works.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Okay, cool, So what does the research say.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Right now? We're not really sure about long term use
because we're just getting the science in the last few years,
but everybody from John Hopkins the NAIDA to the University
of Florida is studying it and what they've seen in Indonesia,
they've done they're starting to do research and surveys and
get some information from Indonesia from the indigenous tribes and
people have used this for generations and from what we're
(17:35):
seeing people that there are definitely people that have been
using creative for at least fifty years. With no negative effects,
and they're healthy and they're fine. So that's what we're
seeing out there. What they do though, they just chew
the raw plant or boil the leaves down into tea
and they take it traditionally. So using it traditionally is
(17:59):
in my opinion, the best way to go, because that's
what we see the research so far. You know, the
research might say five ten years from now, oh you
can make you know, real strong drinks and everything. It
doesn't matter, no, no matter what, You're fine, Okay, great,
you know, But for right now, I don't know that,
and I don't want to ever lead anybody in the
wrong direction or say anything that's not true. So just
(18:20):
trying to repeat the science, that's all we know. The
science says this. We know that the FDA did a
dose finding study last year. They gave forty participants up
to twelve grams of creatum each in capsules. They had
to take twenty four capsules in five minutes in the
placebo group and the control group. A couple of people got
nauseous from taking that much material at one time. Beyond that,
(18:43):
there were no adverse events. They had to admit that
creative is well tolerated even in the high doses. So
that's what we know so far.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
It us full. So what about vendor transparency. Let's talk
a little bit about that. What should people watch for
or when they're purchasing this product.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You just want to make sure you're buying from vendors
that are doing things the right way. Creatum is a
great market. There's no regulation right now. Anybody can put
a label in anything and call it creatum. We're having
some problems with that in my market with a lot
of products. People will call us, oh I tried that
creative and didn't do anything that I bought from wherever? Well,
what was it? What was the type it? Oh, it
(19:24):
was this. It might not be creatim now, or it
might be a weak version of creative. So you just
want to make sure you're buying from reputable vendors that
are doing lab testing, that are just obviously taking their product.
Is the best thing I swear by. I have a
few vendors that I know that are competition, but their
friends and they use Creatum and they love the plant
(19:45):
and that's why they're doing this. So that's why that's
why I like to poor people like that. I like
to support people believe in their product and are doing
it the right way. So that's just my personal, uh,
my personal opinion. And you know, beyond that, you want
to see something. You want to see directions for you.
You want to see some kind of information on how
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much alkaloids met you're joining, some kind of percentages on
your product, to understand what you're taking. Creatum can be
a half a percent that you're joining. It can be
all the way up to two percent that you're joining.
So the difference of that is, if you take a
teaspoon of a half percent match you're joining, you might
not notice too much. You take the same amount of two percent,
you might get nauseous. So under just understanding what you're taking,
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that's all.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
MM. So what can we watch out for?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I definitely watch out for unregulated products, and we are unregulated,
but I would definitely watch out for products that just
look too good to be true. Anybody making medical claims.
We're not allowed to make medical claims about Creatim. If
you see anybody advertising Creatim saying this is going to
cure your cancer, this is gonna cure your pain, this
is gonna cure and I'm just because I've seen it.
(20:56):
I've seen it at trade shows. They'll put stuff up there,
this cure cancer. No, well why are you saying this?
You know, like that's like praying on people. I don't
like that, but you know, people marketing, So just watch
out for people making claims. Watch out for anybody who
doesn't stand behind their product. That'd be the one thing
I'd be really worried about. You know, you have a
(21:17):
lot of fly by night companies. They'll come up, they
got a lot of money and they'll come up, put
a name on a product, flow it through all the
vape shops, float it through everything, and in a year
they'll be gone and that'll happened to them. So, you know,
look for vendors that have been around for a while.
We've been around since twenty sixteen. A lot of the
guys I know have been around for me. So people
that have business industry understand this. Plant. People who are
(21:40):
behind advocacy. You know, we're a very big advocate for Creatum.
We're in DC twice last week. You know, I was
up in Connecticut at a recovery house speaking. There's so
many things that people can really do to help, you know,
just help the education. Part of creative. People just don't
know about it, just if people are helping, educate, support them, right.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, there's nothing more maddening than those people who you
don't want to just use people for their money and
take it advantage of people with their illnesses. There's a
docu series that we watched this woman who said that
food cured everything, and people actually listen to her and
they stopped taking their cancer medications. And you know, she
(22:22):
ended up going to jail and being sued for that,
but it was all just nonsense and it was all
because of you know, money and power and who she was.
And I love that. Let's go out it from the rooftops.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Then.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I love this. I want to keep exploring and getting
the word out and that's what we're doing. So thanks
for sharing all that information.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, you're welcome. And it's just having natural creatom. That's all.
Just look for natural.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Creatum, natural creative. And so is it all going to
smell the same? I know there's a few different strains,
but does it smell what does it smell?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, it's earthy. Some people say it's a little bit
more bitter than macha, but it's got an earthy like
what somebody said, Uh, it smells like dirt. I said,
that's that's good. Uh, it's about the only way I
can explain It's very earthy. That's the only way I
can explain it. It's just earthy. It's got a just dull,
(23:18):
earthy smell, Like right away, you can smell it, like
I've been into people's warehouses where you walk in the warehouse,
you can smell it. You just smell the cranium, that fresh,
that scent. It smells great.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Okay, so you know it's kratum if you smelled it once.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Oh yeah, definitely, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Okay, very cool. Uh So where do we find your store?
And tell us a little bit about where to find you?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Okay, Yeah, we're online. We're not in any stores, babe shops,
smoke shops, gas stations or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
We try to keep it small because I like talking
to my customers. Kretum's not for everybody, and I just
want to be able to interact with people and have
them understand it. You can go to our website, Christopher's
Organic Botanicals dot com, or you can reach out, uh,
call or text us six nine two oh two six
eight eight zero or eight five, six five, eight one
one two six five, and you know, just we're not doctors,
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like I said, but we'll be able to walk you
through what'll be best for you.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Amazing, amazing. Any last minute tips for the audience today
I'm creat I'm used.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, take it slow, educate yourself, take it slow, don't
give up. As with any natural products, it's easy to
give up and just say forget about it. I'm just
going back taking my pill or doing whatever, because it's
a pain in the butt. But in the end, for me,
it was worth it. For millions of people and millions
of creating consumers, it's been worth it. And we've had
hundreds of people tell their story and they're just amazing stories.
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When people actually follow the through and do what they
have to do.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Amazing. I love it. Do you have a quick success
story you want to share this time? And we did
the last couple of times.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Oh yeah. Trying to think of what a good we had.
We had one person that was new to create him
and he was just trying to figure out he wanted
to get off of a couple of medications he was taking.
He was really upset and he just tried it and
was just blown away. He was like, oh my god,
I've been fighting this for ten years. He heard about
(25:20):
CREATIM ten years ago. He's like, I've been fighting this
for ten years. I never tried it, never wanted to
try it, never wanted to do anything. I just wanted
to take what I was taking and move on. And
he tried it, and then within I think a month
or so, we got his routine down. Takes about a month,
takes about a few weeks to a month to get
your routine down. Once he got the routine down, he
was just blown away. And now he's you know, living,
(25:40):
he said, living his best life.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
So wow, that's crazy. Ten you know, at the deciding factor,
how did he finally do it?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I think I from what I remember, he was they
were going to give him, they were try to put
him on more medications, and he just get so tired
of a younger guy in his forties and he was
just getting tired of it. He said, you know, I'm
tired of this. I just I feel tired. I just
don't feel right, and I you know, and he had
talked to so many different people about it over the years.
He's part of our groups listening in just never took
(26:11):
the jump and finally took the jump and he was
just like, oh, thank god, you guys are right. And
I'm like, we know we've been trying to tell you.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, like I want to straggle you.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, it's it's frustrating. We've given samples to people before
where they'll put them up in their cabinet for six
months not try it, and then they'll try it and
then give me a call and be like, oh my god,
you're right. It worked. I said, yep, that's the biggest thing.
People just following through it. It's it's scary trying new things,
it really is.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
But wow, it's like something though, trying something new could
change the rest of your life, you know, So we
got to shake some chances.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, and you know, I'm you said in my own experiment,
I had a heart attack, I have stints, I have
all this other crap. I've oh so many problems, and
you know, I take my medicine, but you know I
can really just be able to take my kreatim and
be okay. And it just makes me, know, it makes
me happy to know I can just depend on a plan.
I don't have depend on twenty pills, so.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Not just I mean, I'm sure a lot of people
can relate to that.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Well this was such a good chat. Thanks again for
being here and for sharing more of your knowledge on
creatim yep, you got it, oh amazing. And to our audience,
thank you so much for tuning in. There will be
more info on creatim coming for you. If you have
not yet liked or subscribed, please do so. And if
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you have any questions for Chris, we're going to have
this contact information in the show notes, and you could
also leave a comment or question in the podcast notes
as well. Until next time, I'm Lisa Urbanski with the Advisor,
But bye for now.
Oh on, Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Advisor.
My name is Lisa Urbanski. Super pumped today to be
talking to Christine. He's got a Kreatum store, and I
know that I heard a Kratum about three months ago randomly,
and I found out I'd be doing this podcast episode
with Chris, and I was so excited because I wanted
(00:21):
to find out all the details of this product that
everybody is going to want to know about before we
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Without you guys, this would not be possible. Hey, welcome
back to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yes, Hey, how you doing. Thanks for having me again.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah. So this is crazy. So I hear about Creatom randomly.
Now we're talking now, I want to know more and
I know the audience is going to want to know more.
So let's break down like long term Creatum use what
do you need to know? And like just give the
audience more information because this is so new, but it's
(00:59):
like so fascinating, it's like the future.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It is. It's very interesting. When I first started, when
I found out about Creatum, started using Credum regularly in
twenty sixteen, there wasn't any science. The science was very limited.
It was a lot of hearsay. Most of my information
I got was from Indonesia, from the farmers and labors
and people that were using it and have used it
in their families for thousands of years, one hundreds of years.
(01:25):
And they were just telling me, hey, we've been using
this forever. There's guys that are eighty years old, been
chewing leads for fifty years. I'm like, okay, well, you know,
nobody's dropping dead from this. Let me see what else
is going on. You know. Then I started really using
it myself more often, and I noticed, I said, you know,
I feel better. You know, I don't feel it's a
negative thing. So I'm glad the science is out now
(01:45):
we can actually prove that it isn't.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So let me ask you this, Are you a science
experiment yourself or do you like to see the results.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I'm my original science experiment from when I found out
about credom because I had no idea. I didn't know
anything about dosage, how much to take not to take,
you know, whether you eat not eat. You know, I
didn't know anything. So I was just right now and
I was just trying it. And the worst thing I experienced,
Like at one point I took about ten times the
amount that I take right now. It was making a
(02:18):
slurry thing. I was trying to make this thing to
where you make it concentrated and then you would like
evaporate water out of it, make just for home, making
these little creton balls or whatever that are concentrated and
not thinking I was mixing stuff up and I thought
that was my regular credem tea, and I drank it,
and worst experience. I was like, oh my god, you
(02:38):
just get real nauseous, like you know, like when you
feel like you're getting nauseous and your body warms up
and you're just like, oh, like it's just it's rough.
But that's the worst that happen, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So it's like drinking too much green tea that does
like that, whatever is the in green tea does that
to me on an empty stomach.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, And that's what I learned. If I take Creative
on an empty stomach, even to this day, I may
get nauseous first thing, and so I want to drink something,
eat something something, you know, to get it in your belly.
But I occasionally, you know, most of the time I
do take right about an empty stomach. But what I
do in the morning is I don't take the amount
that I normally take. I'll take a calf and start
(03:18):
getting off easy with it. So I'll take a calf
in my scoop, and then as I get on with
the day, four hours later, I'll take my normal amount
after I've etail. So I've experience very well.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's interesting because you know, people hear about like these
natural plants and you know, marijuana and fret them and
all this other stuff, and they're afraid to try it
because they're scared of what it's going to do to
their body. But then they get a prescription from the
pharmacy with like five pages of possible side effects and
they're like popping those like no tomorrow. And it's just
(03:53):
why is the mentality like that? Why are people afraid
of natural stuff that grows on our beautiful earth and
it's meant to be there for a reason, like it's innate,
we're supposed to find it. I feel like this is
all part of the journey of the human experience, you
know what.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
But you're right, though, You're right, because I've read a
lot into how we're here and how Rockefeller was involved
in making sure we don't know about natural remedies, and
a lot of different things that happened over the last
hundred years, and there was a really I really feel
like there was a big push, whether it was one
hundred years ago whenever, you know, all this started to
(04:32):
where all these natural remedies were like pushed underground, Yeah,
where nobody They didn't want anybody to understand this. They
didn't want anybody to find out about ratom. They don't
want people to find out about any medicinal plants. And
that's the thing. And when people do finally discover them,
it takes a lot of education. It takes a lot
of time. You know, people get frustrated. They're like, you
(04:54):
know what, I just want to take a pill, get
over it. I don't want to learn about all this.
It's too much trouble, you know. And that's okay at
some point in your life if you're busy, But at
some point, do you want to just keep being on
all the pills and keep adding one on top of
another on top of another. You know, if I have
to take I say, I got to take two pills
a day, one for cholesterol, one for my heart. The
(05:14):
cholesterol one's a little debatable too, and I've tried coming
off of it. I don't know. It doesn't work with
me and my body's weird. But I could be on
ten medications for all the other issues that I have,
and I don't. I use plant medicine for that. I
think that's the biggest thing. People just get frustrated or
they just don't believe in it. They think it's nonsense.
(05:35):
People have tried, Like even me as a kid, teenager
in my twenties, I tried a lot of natural remedies.
My parents aren't the Chinese medicine, so I tried all
these things, and people would rave about something, Oh yeah,
this is the best thing ever, and I try it
and I'm like, I didn't do anything. What are you
talking about? You know? So I think that's a lot
of it. But when you have plants like kret them
with fifty alcaloids in it, it's a very powerful medicinal plan.
(05:58):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's uh. People like having like the pill bottle that
says take one a day at this time and be
done with it. And I think it gets a little
complicated when you have to experiment and figure out what
works for you and take it at the same time
and take it with different things. And people like consistency,
but I personally like what works. So if more people
would know about this stuff and more people would give
(06:24):
it a try, I'm sure it would make a bigger impact.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And it is yeah, and people sometimes try creating for
the first time. And I still say the best way
to take it's not capsules, it's not extracts, not all
that stuff. Just make a cup of regular kretim take. Yes,
it's bitter. It doesn't taste great. The extracts are bitter,
so don't think they're not. They have bitter taste too.
It's very hard to get that bitterness out of creatum.
It really is. A couple guys have done it. They
(06:48):
have a couple of products in the market that are
really good. They masked it pretty good. But you know,
I think that for the best way of understanding it
and feeling the plant is taking it as the whole plant.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Okay, So what is it traditionally used for? Can you
just walk us through that again?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Sure? In Indonesia, Malaysia, Thaighland, Southeast Asia, it's been used
for one hundreds of years as traditional medicine. So what
people would do it would be give people energy for
the laborers that are working long days in the field.
People would actually take credum for diarrhea, for coughing. There's,
like I said, over fifty alcohois, so there's almost you
(07:27):
could look at it, maybe fifty different applications for this plant.
So if you look at each alcohoid, people have used
it not just for energy, but for relief. There was
people that were in Indonesia that were in pain. They
had no other they really didn't have they're eighteen hours
from the city. Recently, in the last couple of years,
they finally through kreatim cultivation in Indonesia, which is amazing
(07:49):
too what they're doing for the farmers out there in
the villages. Because of kretim, they were able to fix
the roads so between the villages and the areas cretum's harvested,
it has to travel. It used to be eighteen hours
to get to Pontianac and they bring it by truck,
so they're driving eighteen hours with giant sacks of crumbs
of kretum crumbs in these trucks bringing them over. Now
(08:12):
they reduced that time to fourteen hours because they built roads.
So this is what they're doing. There was villages that
only had twelve hours a daylight. Now they're they're lit
up twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
This is really the way they've lived their entire lives.
They've Oh, everybody's families has a kretum tree and their
property just so they can pick. You know, I'd love
to have my own medicinal garden. That'd be amazing, just
to be able to go outside in your backyard and
just pluck the leaf from here for that and one
of these for that. You know, that's great quick doing.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
How it would be labeled like a garden, like a
big stack anxiety Ye boost my mood, give me energy?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah right, and they come here, here's one for this
one for that.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Instead of like parrots, cabbage, it's like all of your medications, but.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It doesn't anything. Yeah, they have a lot of medicinal
plants out there that they use. So Maringa is another one.
A lot of people ringa maringa kind of creative and
Maringa kind of look the same and at least round
down into a powder, not belief itself. But you know,
there's so many things out in nature. I remember seeing
the list back in the day of all the medicinal
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plants that they work with. It's not just creatom the
creative maringa. There's just so much there. It's it's amazing.
They use everything everything in nature.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I've been hearing a lot about maringa. I do a
lot of research on natural remedies. What is the difference
between that and creatim.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Maringa is basically a whole like a whole food, like
a whole plant type food. I notice it gives me
a little more clarity. I do take maringa daily too,
so I notice it gives me a little more clarity,
maybe a little bit boost the energy, more stable energy.
I don't notice too many outward effects from it though,
(09:58):
if you know what I mean. But I think for
its general health benefits. You know they're studying. I'm sure
they don't know everything about maringa either, and they're studying
what it could be good for in your body. That's
why I swear by the whole leaf cretum powder, because
there's something we don't know everything yet. I really something's
in that that is helping somebody's whole body. There's more
(10:19):
to it than just feeling energy or relief or better mood.
I think there's other things going on that really are
helping our body stay whole, you know, like I bring
back to my dog. That's my other experiment. My pitbull.
He's thirteen, he's going on fourteen soon. He was born
with bad knees. He was never able to really run
around and play. We started on kretum when he was
(10:41):
four years old and he runs around, plays, it just
does everything still to this day. And I mean he's
almost fourteen, so evidently it's doing something for him.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I want to get into the responsible use practices of CREDOM,
But I have a question you So, it does creatim
interact with anything? It just should someone be concerned about,
you know, some of the things that they're taking already.
Maybe it's medicinal, maybe it's prescription, And what are the
things we need to know about that?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, I would definitely watch out what you're doing. Don't
mix creatum with medications. If talk to your doctor about it.
If your doctor really doesn't know, most doctors don't know
about it anyway, And I'm not a doctor, so I
can't give you that information. But I be careful. There's
a couple instances where we know that the higher concentrated
extracts and like benadryl, we're having some kind of interaction.
(11:38):
You know, obviously opioid painkillers. Uh, one of Cretum's alkaloids
is an opioid, actually an opioid blocker. So some people
have said that it kind of canceled out the opioids
when they took the cretum with it, and it really
didn't work. Well, there's you know, there's too many things
that we do in the United States. We don't just
drink kreatum or you know, take our prescription. We'll take
(12:02):
our prescriptions, drink creat them, then go get a red bowl,
a couple of cups of coffee, and then somebody's drinking
something else. So there's so many things going on. You
want to limit the things going on. If you want
to try kreatim, try to try kreatim when there's not
all that other stuff in your body. You know, I've
tried it. When I first tried creatum, I tried it
at the opposite times of when I took my medication,
just to be on the safe side. Nowadays, I honestly
(12:24):
I take my medication and my creatium around the same
time every night, So that's just me. That doesn't bother
me one bit. But you gotta be careful mixing things.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Together, even supplements.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I would think so because some supplements, Like right now,
there's a kind of a conversation going on about drinks
on the market mixed with kava and kraatim. Some people
are saying the mix a kava in kreatim goes great,
and then other people are saying, no, that was giving
me a problem or I wasn't feeling good from that,
you know what I mean. So I don't know. Everybody's
(12:57):
body is different. So there's people, there's millions of people
that drink creative makava drinks all the time, no problem
at all. Then there's that littlepportunities that they have a
problem when it mixed. So I like just using the
plant by itself, and if I want to try kava,
I'll try kava later. I do that. I just got
a bunch of samples from Fiji, so I have to
go through that. That's a big preparation with the strainer,
(13:21):
and I'm not too familiar with it. So I'm going
to learn that too.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I guess now, oh interesting. The science experiment continues time,
So let's talk about that. The long term users, what
are a few core habits that they typically like to follow.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, for me, I use it for pain. Everybody knows that.
So people who don't use it for that, people who
are using it just for occasional things and a little
bit of energy here and there. Give yourself a break,
take a tolerance break. I tell people at least once
a week, take a break. Don't use it every day
all the time, unless you're really dealing with something that
you have to use it all the time. For any
(14:02):
other reasons, try to give yourself a break a little bit,
you know, just to let we call it. Let your
receptor reset, let your body reset. It's what anything. If
you're drinking twenty cups of coffee a day and then
you don't drink coffee the next day, you're gonna be irritable,
You're gonna be cranky. Well, you don't want that day. Yeah,
you have a headache, so you don't want that to happen.
You kind of limit your amount, take a day off,
(14:24):
you know, it kind of makes let your body clear
everything out. So breaks are important. Rotating different types of cretum,
trying a green, then a white, and then a red,
you know, not taking the same exact one every day
all the time, trying to you know, mix it up
a little bit. I notice with me personally, if I
take the same credum for more than a week, it
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doesn't seem to have the same effects. So I have
to switch it up a little bit. But I also
don't take so much that killing myself my receptors. So
I'm trying to give myself a balance. I stayed about
I take about everybody ask me what I take. I
take about twenty rams a day total, split up between
four about four times. So that's that. I don't feel
(15:06):
like I need cretum when I wake up in the
morning until my pain lets me know. I don't feel
like I have that urge for anything except for my coffee.
So I use myself and as an example, take breaks, rotate,
and use it in moderation. You know, don't don't go overboard.
There's no sense in going overboard with one thing. With
create them less is more, that's the most important. So
(15:30):
when you take too much credim, it'll make you tired,
It'll make you feel lethargic. It'll make you feel like
really relaxed, and that's great for later on at night
if you want to. You know, if I take twice
the amount that I normally take normally take, I'll feel exhausted,
I'll feel tired, and I'm ready to go to bed,
even if it's a green. So everybody's like, ah, I
thought green was for energy. I said it is if
(15:50):
you're taking it in that amount that gives you energy,
which yeah, everybody's got to figure out might be four
grams something like that. If you move it up to
nine grams or eight grams, either you're gonna get it's
going to make it tired, so and you're taking too much.
Your body's like god, it's a little too much for me,
so right yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
As like I mean a former addict, I think I'll
always be an addict. It's that mentality and getting out
of that habit of more and more, because when you're
addicted to substance, you just want to do more and
more and more. You need to in order to chase
that you know, initial high when you're using drugs to
get a reaction, right, but you then learn that you
(16:30):
know less is more, in terms of stuff like this,
because yeah, it has a negative impact then, so that
makes sense. But it's it's the mentality to train yourself.
It's difficult, right because you want you want to feel better,
but you got to switch that.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And it's very difficult to get past that, especially even
people that don't have an addiction or addictive mentality, because
everybody in the world thinks you take more, that's better.
So it's hard to put that flip that script around
in your head going wait a minute, that's let me
take less, let's try less, because it really does the
less you take, the better it works.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Okay, cool, So what does the research say.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Right now? We're not really sure about long term use
because we're just getting the science in the last few years,
but everybody from John Hopkins the NAIDA to the University
of Florida is studying it and what they've seen in Indonesia,
they've done they're starting to do research and surveys and
get some information from Indonesia from the indigenous tribes and
people have used this for generations and from what we're
(17:35):
seeing people that there are definitely people that have been
using creative for at least fifty years. With no negative effects,
and they're healthy and they're fine. So that's what we're
seeing out there. What they do though, they just chew
the raw plant or boil the leaves down into tea
and they take it traditionally. So using it traditionally is
(17:59):
in my opinion, the best way to go, because that's
what we see the research so far. You know, the
research might say five ten years from now, oh you
can make you know, real strong drinks and everything. It
doesn't matter, no, no matter what, You're fine, Okay, great,
you know, But for right now, I don't know that,
and I don't want to ever lead anybody in the
wrong direction or say anything that's not true. So just
(18:20):
trying to repeat the science, that's all we know. The
science says this. We know that the FDA did a
dose finding study last year. They gave forty participants up
to twelve grams of creatum each in capsules. They had
to take twenty four capsules in five minutes in the
placebo group and the control group. A couple of people got
nauseous from taking that much material at one time. Beyond that,
(18:43):
there were no adverse events. They had to admit that
creative is well tolerated even in the high doses. So
that's what we know so far.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
It us full. So what about vendor transparency. Let's talk
a little bit about that. What should people watch for
or when they're purchasing this product.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You just want to make sure you're buying from vendors
that are doing things the right way. Creatum is a
great market. There's no regulation right now. Anybody can put
a label in anything and call it creatum. We're having
some problems with that in my market with a lot
of products. People will call us, oh I tried that
creative and didn't do anything that I bought from wherever? Well,
what was it? What was the type it? Oh, it
(19:24):
was this. It might not be creatim now, or it
might be a weak version of creative. So you just
want to make sure you're buying from reputable vendors that
are doing lab testing, that are just obviously taking their product.
Is the best thing I swear by. I have a
few vendors that I know that are competition, but their
friends and they use Creatum and they love the plant
(19:45):
and that's why they're doing this. So that's why that's
why I like to poor people like that. I like
to support people believe in their product and are doing
it the right way. So that's just my personal, uh,
my personal opinion. And you know, beyond that, you want
to see something. You want to see directions for you.
You want to see some kind of information on how
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much alkaloids met you're joining, some kind of percentages on
your product, to understand what you're taking. Creatum can be
a half a percent that you're joining. It can be
all the way up to two percent that you're joining.
So the difference of that is, if you take a
teaspoon of a half percent match you're joining, you might
not notice too much. You take the same amount of two percent,
you might get nauseous. So under just understanding what you're taking,
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that's all.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
MM. So what can we watch out for?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I definitely watch out for unregulated products, and we are unregulated,
but I would definitely watch out for products that just
look too good to be true. Anybody making medical claims.
We're not allowed to make medical claims about Creatim. If
you see anybody advertising Creatim saying this is going to
cure your cancer, this is gonna cure your pain, this
is gonna cure and I'm just because I've seen it.
(20:56):
I've seen it at trade shows. They'll put stuff up there,
this cure cancer. No, well why are you saying this?
You know, like that's like praying on people. I don't
like that, but you know, people marketing, So just watch
out for people making claims. Watch out for anybody who
doesn't stand behind their product. That'd be the one thing
I'd be really worried about. You know, you have a
(21:17):
lot of fly by night companies. They'll come up, they
got a lot of money and they'll come up, put
a name on a product, flow it through all the
vape shops, float it through everything, and in a year
they'll be gone and that'll happened to them. So, you know,
look for vendors that have been around for a while.
We've been around since twenty sixteen. A lot of the
guys I know have been around for me. So people
that have business industry understand this. Plant. People who are
(21:40):
behind advocacy. You know, we're a very big advocate for Creatum.
We're in DC twice last week. You know, I was
up in Connecticut at a recovery house speaking. There's so
many things that people can really do to help, you know,
just help the education. Part of creative. People just don't
know about it, just if people are helping, educate, support them, right.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, there's nothing more maddening than those people who you
don't want to just use people for their money and
take it advantage of people with their illnesses. There's a
docu series that we watched this woman who said that
food cured everything, and people actually listen to her and
they stopped taking their cancer medications. And you know, she
(22:22):
ended up going to jail and being sued for that,
but it was all just nonsense and it was all
because of you know, money and power and who she was.
And I love that. Let's go out it from the rooftops.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Then.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I love this. I want to keep exploring and getting
the word out and that's what we're doing. So thanks
for sharing all that information.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, you're welcome. And it's just having natural creatom. That's all.
Just look for natural.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Creatum, natural creative. And so is it all going to
smell the same? I know there's a few different strains,
but does it smell what does it smell?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, it's earthy. Some people say it's a little bit
more bitter than macha, but it's got an earthy like
what somebody said, Uh, it smells like dirt. I said,
that's that's good. Uh, it's about the only way I
can explain It's very earthy. That's the only way I
can explain it. It's just earthy. It's got a just dull,
(23:18):
earthy smell, Like right away, you can smell it, like
I've been into people's warehouses where you walk in the warehouse,
you can smell it. You just smell the cranium, that fresh,
that scent. It smells great.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Okay, so you know it's kratum if you smelled it once.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Oh yeah, definitely, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Okay, very cool. Uh So where do we find your store?
And tell us a little bit about where to find you?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Okay, Yeah, we're online. We're not in any stores, babe shops,
smoke shops, gas stations or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
We try to keep it small because I like talking
to my customers. Kretum's not for everybody, and I just
want to be able to interact with people and have
them understand it. You can go to our website, Christopher's
Organic Botanicals dot com, or you can reach out, uh,
call or text us six nine two oh two six
eight eight zero or eight five, six five, eight one
one two six five, and you know, just we're not doctors,
(24:12):
like I said, but we'll be able to walk you
through what'll be best for you.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Amazing, amazing. Any last minute tips for the audience today
I'm creat I'm used.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, take it slow, educate yourself, take it slow, don't
give up. As with any natural products, it's easy to
give up and just say forget about it. I'm just
going back taking my pill or doing whatever, because it's
a pain in the butt. But in the end, for me,
it was worth it. For millions of people and millions
of creating consumers, it's been worth it. And we've had
hundreds of people tell their story and they're just amazing stories.
(24:46):
When people actually follow the through and do what they
have to do.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Amazing. I love it. Do you have a quick success
story you want to share this time? And we did
the last couple of times.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Oh yeah. Trying to think of what a good we had.
We had one person that was new to create him
and he was just trying to figure out he wanted
to get off of a couple of medications he was taking.
He was really upset and he just tried it and
was just blown away. He was like, oh my god,
I've been fighting this for ten years. He heard about
(25:20):
CREATIM ten years ago. He's like, I've been fighting this
for ten years. I never tried it, never wanted to
try it, never wanted to do anything. I just wanted
to take what I was taking and move on. And
he tried it, and then within I think a month
or so, we got his routine down. Takes about a month,
takes about a few weeks to a month to get
your routine down. Once he got the routine down, he
was just blown away. And now he's you know, living,
(25:40):
he said, living his best life.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
So wow, that's crazy. Ten you know, at the deciding factor,
how did he finally do it?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I think I from what I remember, he was they
were going to give him, they were try to put
him on more medications, and he just get so tired
of a younger guy in his forties and he was
just getting tired of it. He said, you know, I'm
tired of this. I just I feel tired. I just
don't feel right, and I you know, and he had
talked to so many different people about it over the years.
He's part of our groups listening in just never took
(26:11):
the jump and finally took the jump and he was
just like, oh, thank god, you guys are right. And
I'm like, we know we've been trying to tell you.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, like I want to straggle you.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, it's it's frustrating. We've given samples to people before
where they'll put them up in their cabinet for six
months not try it, and then they'll try it and
then give me a call and be like, oh my god,
you're right. It worked. I said, yep, that's the biggest thing.
People just following through it. It's it's scary trying new things,
it really is.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
But wow, it's like something though, trying something new could
change the rest of your life, you know, So we
got to shake some chances.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, and you know, I'm you said in my own experiment,
I had a heart attack, I have stints, I have
all this other crap. I've oh so many problems, and
you know, I take my medicine, but you know I
can really just be able to take my kreatim and
be okay. And it just makes me, know, it makes
me happy to know I can just depend on a plan.
I don't have depend on twenty pills, so.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Not just I mean, I'm sure a lot of people
can relate to that.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Well this was such a good chat. Thanks again for
being here and for sharing more of your knowledge on
creatim yep, you got it, oh amazing. And to our audience,
thank you so much for tuning in. There will be
more info on creatim coming for you. If you have
not yet liked or subscribed, please do so. And if
(27:41):
you have any questions for Chris, we're going to have
this contact information in the show notes, and you could
also leave a comment or question in the podcast notes
as well. Until next time, I'm Lisa Urbanski with the Advisor,
But bye for now.
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