KRE POETRY AND RADIO - EP 133

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good afternoon. What another blessed day. I tell you, it's
always a blessing when you can come on a podcast
and know that the podcast is gonna all be about
Jesus Christ. This is the kri portray and radio poems
and testimonies that can touch and change and maybe even
save lives. We just hope you've invited somebody to come

(00:24):
and listen to this podcast today. We're just hoping that
you've invited someone that maybe don't know that their child,
or their father, or their mother, or their sister or
their brother, their father is thinking about committing suicide. This
is a serious podcast today. We're very very serious. Matter
of fact, we always have to give a shout out

(00:44):
to Elane forward Johnson who always posts up this podcast
on the Hampton Park website so that other people can
listen to it if they missed on a Sunday. But
if you know someone right now, you need to call them,
reach out to him to tell them to come and listen,
listen and maybe it'll help them because this is the
opportunity for them to get some free counseling uh that

(01:06):
they maybe weren't able to get that they maybe they
would have the time to to go and get that counseling.
But but we would just want to say thank you.
You always have to give a shout out to my
brother Bruise, Uh and and t J, both of them
in love with the Lord and and and and I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I didn't. I didn't choose him to come on the vote.
God he told them I got on the boat.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
So they on the vote, and they and they and
they pulled it hard down every every every every Sunday,
they pulled it hard down.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
And they speak from their heart and and uh for
over two or two years, Uh, they've been on with
me and and and they've been really pouring out their hearts.
And you know who you're going it is sometimes, So
you know, this is such a serious podcast today we
always like to reflect back. Then We're gonna let U,

(01:56):
Bruies and TJ reflect back on our lamone that was
on last week. Man, powerful, powerful, But I'm gonna I'm
gonna let my time go to Bruce and TJ to
to share about that because I talked to him all
the time. So we always know that TJ is the
mail of Hampton Park all over the world, y'all need
to know in Dallas, Texas. Now's there's a there's a
Hamilton Park and fun off dollars and we chose our

(02:20):
own mail.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
There wasn't no, didn't nobody vote on him. We just say,
he here's a mail.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So we got TJ. So DJ, you you go ahead,
and we're gonna resflect on that and then we're gonna
we're gonna jump into this podcast with the guests that
we have, but reflect on the TJ and then uh
that Bruth's gonna come in behind you.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
It's uh, it's it's always always a pleasure to hear
to hear from my brother told Lard whenever, whatever, whenever,
whenever he's on the podcast, work, whenever he's on the phone,
whenever we're talking, he's always just bubbling over with joy
and you can just feel it in it's hard. And

(02:57):
what what he's so good at doing one is to
remind us that the Lord is our savior. He's the one,
he's the one that we can depend on. And look,
I have to say it, and I mean that's from
the bottom of our heart. Every time we talk, whether
we're on the phone, whether we're visiting, whether we are

(03:18):
wherever we are, and whatever whatever conversation we're having, we're
always in that conversation with the word of prayer, and
it's always a sincere prayer. So I want to thank you,
told Off for always being so sincere, so very very sincere.
Last week I open this podcast up with a with

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a with a testimony of my own. I wanted to
let everybody know that that I am always, always, always
depending on the Lord and Savior. Whatever it is that
I might have, that's a that's a situation type, whatever

(04:00):
it might be, I always take it to the Lord.
You know why, because he told us take your problems,
take your concerns, bring your bring everything to me. Just
bring it to me. And you know what, if you
do that, you'll have very very very very you'll be

(04:21):
You'll feel so blessed to know that. Look, I can
call on the Lord anytime I get ready, anytime, regardless
of what he is, what what what it what it
might be. But last week we had a brother, brother Mitchell.
He gave his testimony, and his testimony when something like this,

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find Jesus, Find Jesus, he will be your savior. Find Jesus.
He heard my crime. The heavenly Father was my father.
He forgave his dad. There had there's some situations when
he and his dad may have had when he was

(05:03):
growing up. But during his testimony, he let us know
that the pains that he had, he doesn't have those
pains anymore. He said, look, you will have pain in
your life every now and then he said, you know what,
I have had pains in my life. I've had some situations.

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But and there there's that that word. However, I had
the Lord in my life. He was my father when
my father, he was my heavenly father when my earthly
father wasn't around. He said that God led me, He
led me on the right path. He said, I chose

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I'm chosen by the Lord, and I can sing that
from my heart. I was chosen by God.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
God.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
God saved me from death, he said. He said, and
this is our brother. Mitchell continue to talk, to continue
to give us his testimony. He said, I know I
was chosen by God. He said, God saved me. He
saved me from death not only one time, but several times.

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But the Mitchell said, I thank God for waking me up.
He saved me many many times. He told me, He
told me the story of how I would meet my wife.
He told me the story of my wife's life. He said,
stop and talk to me. Stop and talk talk to God.

(06:47):
He said, be be Use your procedures. When when you
get ready to change something, use your procedures that God
has laid out for you. He's he's take this redmenture. Man. Look,
he wanted me and us to know that it doesn't

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matter what you've done, whatever you've done in life, Jesus
died for you. He died for our sins, he said.
One of his favorite foh his verses was John three sixteen.
A God so loved the world that he gave his
only little godden son. Whosoever believed in him share not perish,
would have their less in life. Everything was centered around

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bringing God in on whatever it is that you might have,
that that whatever it is, it might be a situation
that might be a problem. He said, Look, killing yourself
is something that he might have considered at one time.
So he was letting people know you don't have to

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have those thoughts. You can take it to the Lord.
He said, Look, killing yourself is a situation that God
would be able to deal with you about. And he said,
he can't get away you can't get around anything without
God in your life solved. God would solve all of

(08:17):
the problems.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, hello didja? Hello?

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh bus, I don't know what you're not. I guess
Mace locks TJ. Is he still a mister Daunton? Well,
I don't know what what happened on that, but he
TJ was maybe but his phone maybe when I bruies

(08:58):
but pick up from that blue you know, come back
Bruce will ye.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Thanks a lot, uh Uh. Tolar, as always, I'm thankful
and I'm humbled to be on the podcast to uplift
our heavenly Father Jesus Christ. The last week we had
Ramon Mitchell on the podcast and he stated basically that

(09:25):
he was a prior partner, one of four por partner
uh since last year. And I just want to mention
my interpretation of that based on what I know of Tolar,
he kind of has an outreach ministry, if you will,
that he always reaching out to the others and having

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parents and establishing Christ like a relationship with them.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
He talked about a near death experience that he had
as as a teacher, had indicated and that he realized
that God had left him here for a reason. He
shared with us that he had grown and his relationship
with Jesus Christ. And I really want to stress this

(10:14):
where he said. He said, now he's always happy, he's
always at peace, and that basically the results of his
relationship with our heavenly Father and we know John fourteen
twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Peace.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I leave with you my peace. I give you not
as the world gives, do I give it to you.
Let not your heart be troubled, need to let them
be afraid. He also he talked about that he found
his purpose for his life and that purpose was to

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make and create songs for the Lord, not with the
other well, these worldly type songs, but songs consisting of
Bible verses that will and encourage others in songs who

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if they don't have that relationship with with Hell Father,
but if they do, no songs that will uplift their spirit.
And he talked about the main thing believing in Jesus,
believing in Jesus when a Roman ten nine says, if
you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe

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in your heart that God had raised them from the dead,
thou should be saved and inyoneer. If you're listening to
the podcast, and you don't know Jesus. Jesus is knocking
at your door, and as we as we stay all
the time on this podcast, please open that door, invite

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him in. Yeah, I wonna that you.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Wayful that he was on the podcast shuring his vote
that our Helenic folders and how he's now just living
his legs. He tried to bring others towards Helena Folders,
and so I'm looking forward to the podcast today. That awesome, Bruce, awesome.

(12:28):
I just want to thank you for that, Teacher. It's
gonna come back on it just a little bit, but
we just want to say, first of all.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Thank you for my guest. It's going to be on
the day because we're talking about suicide. Our dad committed suicide,
and so seriously, you know, I don't even have no
baby boy story today.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
And the only thing I can.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Tell you that baby boy is doing right now, doctor
baby boy, he done took it. He done took a tricycle,
took the took the wheels off of it, and he's
using it. He's using it to just ride and practice.
So don't have a baby start both with the story
of you. But because this is a serious deal with
right now, and Boots and I and my family can
can testify to that. And so my first person that

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I want to bring on to let him have some
things to say because he's got a lot that he
can help us within. And the doctor doctor Marshall, Uh
marsin Blanca, he's on, and we're gonna let him just
kind of open up and talk to us the way
that that God's gonna speak to him that we can
help someone that's struggling. So go ahead, uh doctor doctor Marshall.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Everyone appreciate your eyes and me on again today. And
but yeah, you know, I think it's it's really important
to first say, you know, one thing that we know
from from science, from evidence is that talking about suicide
directly does not increase the chances that someone will commit suicide. Right,

(13:53):
So I already like the fact that we are using
the word in this show today. We're using the word directly,
and we're not beating around the bush. I used to
work in the high schools and I used to give
sort of a crash course, if you will, on mental health,
and we implemented that science directly, So we talked about

(14:14):
suicide directly. We talked about the warning signs and what
you can do if you're feeling suicidal. But I think
it's just important to have those conversations, right And something
I was, you know, talking about with Kenneth earlier is
what are the warning signs on the way to suicide?

(14:34):
And we know that depression anxiety are rampant right now,
especially among our younger generations. You know, we could give
context to multiple factors that influence that, and I don't
think it's worth while to play the blame game, but instead,
I think it's important to talk about, you know, what
signs to recognize, especially in younger generations, and then you

(14:55):
know what we can do about it just having conversations,
simple convers station or being a presence in someone's lives.
But especially among kids and teens, you know, depression doesn't
look like typical depression in the sense that you know,
maybe they're not going to show that sad mood. It's
it's you could probably expect that they definitely won't say it.

(15:18):
They they won't say that they're feeling depressed, or they
won't say that they're feeling sad. Instead, what they're gonna
you'll notice that they're more irritable, right and oftentimes irritability
is a mass or the face of depression for for
a lot of teams especially. We also know that a
hallmark symptom of depression is what we call anhidonia. That's

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really just a fancy way of saying a loss of
interest in things that they typically enjoy, right, And it's
very common for teams to change their their preferences and
their habits. But what I'm more so speaking about is
if they have no interest in any activities. You know,
they i don't care to do anything inside or outside.

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You notice that maybe they're not even wanting to spend
time on screens, right, and that is a hallmark symptom
of depression, you know, just to name a few others.
There's a lot more symptoms, but just to name some
some other prominent ones, it's you know, changes in sleep,
so maybe they're sleeping too much, maybe they're not sleeping enough.

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Changes an appetite, so maybe you notice that you know,
they're eating a lot more than usual, or they're eating
a lot less than usual. Maybe they have difficulty concentrating,
they're tired all the time. Those are the symptoms you
really want to pay attention to. Unfortunately, depression and anxiety
are tend to be best friends, right, They like the

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hold hands and you know, run ramp in one's mind.
And so if you've noticed any of these signs, I
think a huge, huge thing you can do. Whether it's
you know, in a young one or or an adult
that you know, validating goes a long way. So rather

(17:06):
than you know, say hey, you know you have nothing
to feel sad about or there's no reason to feel sad,
that can come across as very invalidating, and that may
actually make someone feel worse. Right, So validating will look like, oh,
I can see why you feel that way, right, But
even if you can't get there, you can say you
can just reflect back simply what the other person is

(17:28):
saying or what you're observing. Oh, you're telling me that
you've been feeling more irritable lately. You've been telling you know,
you're telling me that you've been feeling more down lately. Notice,
And I think this is a skill. I know that
I had to learn this skill and remindfuls of this.
Validating is not the same as agreeing, right, So, although

(17:50):
we can disagree with someone, maybe the way they're handling
a situation or a certain behavior, we can still validate
them without disagreeing.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Right.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
So you know, let's say someone is you know, addicted
to something, or they're engaging in something that is obviously
making their condition worse, whether it be depression and or
anxiety or suicidal thoughts. You don't have to agree with
what they're doing, right, but you can validate and say, oh,
it makes sense why you'd be sensed towards that, right,

(18:22):
and it makes sense why you want.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
To do that.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
I hear that you're feeling sad, so maybe you've picked
up the bottle more lately, or you know, maybe you're
using these drugs more. Right, but you're not agreeing. Now,
we can leave the disagreement out of what we're saying.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Right.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
We don't have to condemn them and say, oh, you know,
I disagree with what you're doing. The chances are they
already know it's making it worse. But validation is so
so powerful. So anyway, I know that was a that
was a lot, but you know, I really just wanted
to speak to the signs and symptoms of depression and
anxiety and then what we can do about it as well.

(19:00):
Also tie this to scripture, you know, I'm a baby
in learning specific or memorizing specific verses. But what I
do know is in the Bible, God says, do not
be afraid right now. Notice he I mean, the Bible
is very intentional, right, God is always intentional with his words.
Notice God said do not He didn't say do not

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feel afraid, right, he said do not be afraid. And
there's a difference. And I think that's such a great
model that that scripture is such a great model of validation.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Right.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
If God said in the scripture do not feel afraid,
that would come across as kind of invalidating.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Right.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
We honestly, as humans, we cannot help how we feel.
We cannot help the thoughts that pop into our head.
But what we can do and help is what we
do with them.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Right.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
So obviously God put emotions in us. He created us
with emotions and thoughts. And so I think if you
were to say do not feel afraid, that would be counterintuitive, right,
But He knows us so well that he said do
not be afraid. So I can feel afraid, I can
feel anxious, I can feel sad, whatever the unpleasant emotion is. However,

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I don't have to act that way. I don't have
to be that way, and God knows that, right, that's
why he is so intentional in what he said in
the scripture. So anyway, I just wanted to tie what
I know in my professional development and training to honestly
with what's in the scripture.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Right.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
It's interesting a lot of the science that's out there
right now as far as how to treat clients with
certain conditions, whether it be anxiety or depression. It's wild
how much of that is in the Bible. And so anyway,
I hope that's helpful whether you're dealing with any of
those signs yourself or you know someone who's dealing with

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any of those signs. Remember, validationings a long way, and
we definitely don't want to invalidate someone that can just
make things worse.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Just you know, Uh, Marshall, I tell you that that's well,
doctor Marshall, that's really that's really a blessing man that
you're tying it tie that in uh with scripture and stuff,
because you know, that's why we got doctor Baby boy
is going to come on, uh, and he's going to
talk about the inner man also, and and Tiffany is
going to to shine in But but I know from

(21:33):
what you just said. Man uh uh TJ is back
on TJ. I'm gonna give you, give you a chance
to say something about that, and the Bruce and him
go ahead and and bring the doctor baby boll on there, Tiffany,
and then that Doctor Marshall continued to minister to those
people out there that that maybe just don't know what
to do they see their child, that's the pressure. Maybe
they even didn't press right because we know that the

(21:56):
fact that I was checking, they said twelve twelve point
five million people between eighteen and twenty five experience mental
behavior of emotional health issues in the past year, well
twenty five million people between eighteen and twenty five. So
you know it's something that we gotta deal with. But

(22:17):
but teacher touch them in on what you just heard
Dr Marshall say, and Danny get Boosa is the chance
and we'll we'll keep moving on.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yes, Dodtor Marshall. Look, thanks for being on the air
today's look mental awareness just here Mental Awareness month, and
you were letting me know that we want we won't
try to u to respond to to all of the signs,
but there are some signs that may be uncomfortable that

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you may not be comfortable with. They may not be
uh may not be your most your most obvious science,
but you will be able to see a change you wouldn't.
I would be able to see a change. And if
if I see a change, it will not hurt to
go get some help. If I had some physical issues,

(23:08):
I would wanna go see us go see a for
a doctor. And if I thinking that I may be
having a few mental issues, well then I would think
that I would make wanna go see doctor Marshall and
some of the other uh medical mental health issue mental
health doctors for our issues. And then the most important
point he m. He remembered saying something. Remember to remind

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us of something that said and it was biblical and
it said, do not be afreid. Do not be scared,
says the Lord. Do not be a He's saying it,
do not be afread. So the Lord is aware that
these issues will come up severy NW And then for
some of us, and it's it's something that we don't
have to be afraid. Uh. We can go get some help,

(23:55):
get some validation. Getting validation goes a long way, and
it would be the best thing that we could do
it in that type of situation. So I want to
thank doctor Marshall again for being here today. Thank you
very much, doctor Marshall.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Bruise, Yeah, sure, appreciate that the TJ and I appreciate
the doctor tying scripture into what he was stating, and
it's that's an ironic. I mean, I think the for
sure that I've read is perhaps the one that he
was referring to about don't be afraid, neither let them

(24:34):
be afraid, I mean, which was a John fourteen twenty seven,
which I'm with, And well, the main thing that I
got out of what he was stating, really, I mean
that you be compassion with what's going on and be
aware with what's going on in your loved ones life.
For just someone that you're or with on a regular basis,

(25:00):
us see if the change and their behavior right. I mean,
I know, we get busy in our life, work life
or comfortable life and.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
We may not.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Recognize or see these issues that are going on in
little ones life. So if you see it as he
as he's stating, don't don't condemn them, but validate without disagreeing,
but with them acknowledge yeah, that they're having this, you
see that there's a difference and their behavior and just

(25:37):
have a conversation with discussing with them, care about what
to me, the main thing is just having compassion, caring
and then and if you're in plast ice will direct
you regarding how to uh communicate with it if you

(25:58):
care about that, and it should come across to them,
which you're stating to them because you're saying things out
of love and we know that's the key and we
can't be a place and we're having struggles as a

(26:18):
as a doctor is stating, you know, let someone know,
I mean, don't struggle alone, you need help, deed help,
don't don't give up, don't go on the town. That's
why or in praise a lot having this podcast, you know,
to to focus on that because we know it's a

(26:42):
crisis now so many folks, and you can understand why
there's a crisis because of all the confusion, all the
misinformation that's out there, all the lies that are being spread.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
In the world.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Getting away from the truth, away from the truth, and
the truth is Jesus Christ. But we really, we really
have to care, genuinely care about one another. We can't
get caught as a doctor stating, listen to what the

(27:15):
they're saying. Notice what's going on in the life. Don't
get so caught up in what you're doing. But what
the most important thing is loving your neighbor. I know,
just a stress of life, loving your neighbor as yourself. Okay,
and appreciate again the doctor tie it in with scripture.

(27:42):
Man can affordly to so much. The will help is
going to come. We know with their relationship, whether having
a father, think that you know, you know, but the brutes,
I tell you, I appreciate. I appreciate what you said,
and I know I know well, uh, doctor Marshall, appreciated

(28:02):
what what you're saying because of the love and myself
with having a bipold daughter, is that you gotta you
gotta carr, you gotta carry because you gotta show love,
and you gotta show love because see, you can't say
I'm just saying it for a little while, because you
don't know how long it's gonna curry, how long that
person will struggle, and then they may get they may

(28:22):
level out, and you you get excited because they're leveling out,
and then you may go through a struggle again. You
can go through it again. So it's gotta be loved,
you know, because it's almost like with the Lord forgiving us.
You know, we're saying, and then he forgives us, and
then we go along a little longer, and then we
turn around and say it again. You know what I'm saying,
and he forgives us. So you gotta show love. And

(28:43):
that's one of the reason why I brought about doctor
baby Ball. You know, he he came out of his
little his little workout of efforts that he's been trying
to get ready for Bruce next year, and we brought
him own. And and I thought doctor baby Boy thought
he was gonna get away. He ain't gonna get away
from Cobo, no, but but uh, but he's.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
On because because he's in love with Jesus, like bruising
myself and my family and TJ and all the people
that that come on his podcast, and and plus he
knows Doctor Marshall and and uh and I brought Doctor
baby all because we we we know it's about that
inner man and Marshall tapped on, tapped into that, Bruce
tapped into, PJ topped in. So so we're gonna let

(29:26):
doctor baby Boy talk about how how how important it
is uh for that that that that inner man, that
inner peace. That's how with Jesus Christ. Uh So go ahead,
doctor doctor baby boy. You you got to you your
own doctor baby boy.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
And look, man, I appreciate you. Marshall appreciates you, Bruce
and uh missteps appreciate you. And there was and and
just a podcast and bringing this information out and as
Marshall alluded, and I'm just gonna just gonna jump right
in validating is is essential, right, Uh really just gonna

(30:03):
punctrate onto really two words, validating and brust braft the
other pief's care. When you think about validating, right, it's
like it's like when you're validating, you're really putting yourself
in the other person's position. Right, If we're truly going
to be this body of you know, body of believers
that we've been baptizing the one spirit in one body,

(30:25):
so when that person is hurting, I need to reverse
the roles, right, I really need to validate them. So
the only way I can validate it is that I'm
feeling with the feeling and that and that's what we
kind of land the plane with what we call soul care.
Because it starts on the inside. If you can't really
feel what someone is feeling on the inside, then then

(30:46):
it's it's really just surface love because I have to
I have to truly put myself attempt to put myself
in the other person's position, because that is what unifies
the body. The word says, when when my brother sister
is hurting and suffering, I'm hurting and suffering. So if
you have a child, my goodness, that's your blood child.

(31:11):
But the word says, I ought to be hurting with them,
So I'm validating them. This soul care, right, So when
you talk about soul care, you're validating and you need
to get this. You're validating their thoughts. You're not just
dismissing their thoughts because their thoughts are true to them.
It's happening to them, right, So you can't just not

(31:32):
appreciate and think about how did they how did they
coming up with these thoughts, trying to rationalize with their thoughts.
And then the other piece is their affections. Something is
pulling their affections away and just distorting their thoughts. And
then other thing is the choice is that they may
be making right, it's happening something is happening within them,

(31:59):
and we, as it's the body of believers, we just
need to try to embrace it, accept it, don't try
to diagnose them, but try to love them in the process.
That's what Christ, That's what he would do. He sees
come to show us away. And the only way through
it is through Christ. And how we're gonna reveal Christ.

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We're gonna love him through it, right, We're gonna We're
gonna attempt to love them through whatever state, not trying
to discredit, not devalue them, but validate them in the process.
And I think that's what the Lord would want of us, to.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Reverse the role.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
It could be it could be you, it could be
med be any one of us, w at least on
this call because mental health it's rapid right now. So
let's become have sympathy, be empathetic the individuals that are
wrestling with this, because we don't know when the tables
will turn. But I'm just saying care is key to

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it all and the key to overcoming it. The solution right,
and we will say what can we do? A strong
soul changes everything. When I say a strong soul changes everything,
I'm talking about the heart, talking about the mind, I'm
talking about your spirit. Those things changes over time, and

(33:25):
we're gonna trust that the Holy Spirit is still doing
a thing and a person that having the distorted thoughts,
having uh, these these symptoms of whatever going on, we're
gonna keep lifting up, lifting them up, We're gonna keep
walking in the spirit, and we're gonna trust that the
Lord will deliver them and do season. We just keep
validating them, we keep caring for them, and we keep

(33:46):
loving them. That's what God causes us to do. That's
our role in it. And nothing is just as nothing
should separate you from the love that we have for
one another, especially your blood relative. Even us as body believers,
that's that's we're part of the same body. We're members
of one another. That that unifies us, right if my brother,

(34:09):
that's what the church is in place for. But with
outsourts to the counselors. But we are counselors ourselves.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
That's what we do.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
There's a counselor SECI's going on right now because somebody's
gonna be encouraged by hearing what we're talking about. That
may spur them along. You are counselors, whether you want
to believe it or not. If the Holy Spirit is
in you, you have the same power that residrected Jesus
from the great You have the same power. So let
us not forget what we're passing, what we're carrying. We're

(34:43):
carrying the resurrection power with us and and and that's
what's gonna do to healing. It's not gonna be in us.
It's gonna be the person who lives in and through us.
That's that's healing. That's soule care. We can provide soul
care for all the people that we encounter every single day.
Let's just validate people. Let's don't discredit people. Let's those

(35:05):
devalue people. Let's hear them out. Let's let's let's earn
their trust.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Right.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
It's a trust factor because I think of counseling, they
trust you. I tell people that the biggest thing that
I do from a counseling standpoint is I listen and
I develop a relationship with them. I'm building tracks as
I go. I don't have any prenotions or anything about

(35:31):
the person. We're gonna build these tracks as we go,
and we're gonna let the Holy Spirit move as it should.
But I appreciate you, Marshall, validate Bruce case.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
You guys are.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Talking about how we can walk with people that are
going through changes, love them, man, that's what we do
we with that's quite so love does. We are to
do the same. That's what we're called to do. That's
that's the excellence of love. If you go the First Corinthians,
Chapter one, verse thirteen, the excellence of love, he says,

(36:07):
love is patient, love is time. And then you know
what he does. He goes all those directly to what
love is not. There's like seven verse where he tells
us what love is not. Just go spend some time
right there and First Corinthians and learn what love is
and if you and if and if it's some of
those things that he says that it's not that you
need to check yourself. Go read it, analyze it, and

(36:31):
not just go try to apply it on someone else.
So thet's trying to apply it into your own life
and then go practice it on someone else.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Boh, God, brother, hey, but that's the lesson I got,
brother Marshall. Uh, doctor Marshall, you know, uh with with
you having your relationship with Jesus Christ and it's getting
stronger and stronger. How has that helped you with getting
with some of the some of the people and some
of the individuals that come across should come across for

(37:00):
you to counsel. Since now you know God is in
control of your life, how does that really how does
that helped you in your field?

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Yeah, that's a great question.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
You know.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Something that I didn't understand before, you know, I started
becoming serious about following God, was you know this idea
that you can talk to God simultaneously as you're talking
to someone else, And now, how is that possible? But
I think as I've practiced that intentionally since I've become

(37:35):
more serious about following following God, and the first thing
I do every day is I pray. But included in
that prayer is I asked God to show me how
to help whoever it is that I'm going to talk
to that day professionally, right, because God knows and I don't.
And I know if I constantly remind myself of that,

(37:56):
that helps because if I lean on my own understanding,
man wouldn't be very good.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Right.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
But in the moment when I'm talking to clients and
I feel lost with what to say or you know
the best thing to do, whether it's you know, be
silent and on my head or actually say something. I'm
talking to God, right, God help me, God help me
what to say. And it's a practice. When I first
started that, it was a lot more difficult than it
is now. But it's practicing that. And I love what

(38:26):
Harry said as far as being patient. You know, when
it comes to having a conversation or being present with
someone who's struggling, whether it be depression, anxiety, suicide, man,
the phrase of one day at a time is so powerful,
and you can even break that down even more one
minute at a time, one hour at a time, and

(38:49):
that's patience.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Right.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
So let's say you're talking to someone who's dealing with suicide,
or you know, someone who's dealing with suicide. Man, just
encouraging that one minute at a time. Hey, let's just
get through this next thirty minutes, let's just get through
this next five minutes. If that's all they can do,
Let's just get through this next hour, and reminding them
of the simple pleasures. Right with, we oftentimes think that

(39:11):
we have to, you know, come up with this huge
or you know, this grand intervention. It doesn't have to
be that. In fact, usually people who are in that
dark place aren't ready for a grand intervention, right, But
just taking them out for a cup of coffee, right,
or whatever their favorite you know drink is, or talking

(39:34):
to them about their favorite show man that can go
a long way. And that speaks to this powerful phrase
of one minute at a time, one day at a time,
and that shows patience that God asked us to enact
with others, right, just just being patient through that one minute,
through that next five minutes, thirty minutes. But to summarize

(39:55):
and answer your question, can I think it's leaning on
God simultaneously as you're trying to help someone and not
leaning on your own understanding. And again that that's really
hard to do at the beginning, but it's a practice, right,
and just reminding yourself that we don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
But He does well, you know, you know, uh, says
Bruce and Bruce and Harris online. And you know, we
we we lost our dad to a suicide and and
I know the only way we made it through it was, uh,
the love, but more than anything was the fact that
our mom had introduced us to Jesus Christ at that

(40:33):
early age, you know, And and so we had when
you when you didn't understand, you could take it to
the law. Because Bruce has his own personal relationship. Harry,
my brother, p m my sister, we all had our
own personal relationship. My brother Daughter when he was alive,
and my brother Richard, we all had our own personal relationship.
So we we we would talk to God because we

(40:55):
didn't feel counselor. We didn't have a counselor, but we
had the number one counselor in.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
The whole world.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
We had Jesus. We had Jesus. That's what that's what
got us through that. You know. You think about the
fact that the age that my brothers was at when
my dad took his life, and and and for us
to be able to have made it through it, that
was only because of our relationship with Jesus Christ. And
because God is love.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
That's what having.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Bruce and Marshall and t J that's when we're talking
about that love and showing love and and uh, like
I said, when my daughter, all I've always showed is
is love, you know, over and over and over again.
And so to just to think about the fact that
to to to be able to have made it through uh,
your parme committing suicide and now here we are able

(41:46):
to talk about it because we want to help somebody.
We want to help somebody make it through it. You know,
we're not We're not hiding in the closet and saying now,
I don't want to tell nobody, I.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Don't want nobody. No.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
No, You go through things so that you can help
somebody else, be a blessed to someone else, you know.
And and and Harry lost the best friend to suicide.
So so he's he's passionate about trying to make a difference,
because this is a hurrying feeling when when you don't
see it coming and it happens, and then in your
mind you're saying, mean, what could I have done? It
was something I could have said that like, then I

(42:17):
missed something, you know. That's and that's the thing that's
so sad is that a lot of people don't really
take out the time to show enough love. So I
just want uh t J to to take a moment
to to just talk a little bit about the fact
that you're getting a chance to hear Harry talk about

(42:39):
uh this and and you're getting masters to talk about it,
and then you're getting Booster to talk about it. Uh, man,
come on, just just whatever you understand. They were gonna
bring him back on because we don't try to get
as much. We're gonna try to get as much information
from from Bruce and I mean Harry, UH and t J.
And then Bruce has got the spiritual t J got
the spruits side, but then everybody on the podcast got

(43:01):
the studi side.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
So yes, look, this is what this is what I
I'm hearing from, Uh from Coach Haar and and and
and and doctor Marshall. Don't be afraid, Please, don't be afraid.
Get help, get validation. Validation goes a long way. The

(43:27):
soul care of listen to the people when they're talking
to you, but when you're talking to them, just be
sure that you first thing you want to do is
to listen and let the Holy Spirit do the work. Love, love, love,
Learn what love is love the Lord first, God is

(43:48):
in control. These words are coming from Coach Harry, These
words are coming from from doctor Marshall. These are these
are people that's been experiencing this at one time or another.
At one time or another, God is in control. We
always have to remember that. So be sure and can
and include him always. Let's see we said. Doctor Marshall

(44:13):
said that the same thing that Harold was saying is
to talk to God and talk to the people. Let's
talk to God one day at a time. Everything happens.
It doesn't happen overnight. It happens. It happens with the
gradual time of listening and leading and learning and listening

(44:34):
and learning. So lean on Jesus. Don't lean on anybody
or anything else. Lean on the Lord. Jesus is number one.
Is your number is the number one relationship is going
to be with Jesus Christ. And let each other know
what you are feeling. Always let someone know what you're feeling.

(44:57):
That's what I was hearing from both doctor Harry. I'm sorry,
Doctor Marshall and my coach Harry and and it's it's
it's something that we can't be ashamed of. When we
can't we we we've got to be able to say,
I'm going to take this to my head and the
Father and see what he can do and ask him

(45:20):
for all of the help that he will be able
to give us, and not try and and and make
it a one night deal and everything is going to
take care of itself just like that. It doesn't happen
like that. I don't think it does proves anyway. Yeah, yes, yes,
appreciate you. TJ's the old. I appreciate both of the

(45:44):
doctors of being on the on the podcast and and
and they're on the podcast out of love that that
they care and there's no monetary incident to be on
the podcast. They're on the podcast once again because they care.
They see what's going on, they see how how people

(46:05):
are struggling. But and the're and and they're they're letting
you know what the solution is, and they're trying to
help others that they have someone that you see that
they're they're struggling and they're letting you know what you
need to do.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Okay, and not like that. Harry said that.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
That you have to listen.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Listen, listen, listen to what they're saying. Listen, listen, don't
just dismiss what they're saying. Oh that's what those old
they're not. Just get over it. This is no big deal.
They're not they're not.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Saying, listen, that was it.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
What they're what they're saying, what they're going through is will.
Obviously it's will or they will not have to struggle
that they're they're having so and we always should be
able to recognize that and and validate that and and
be concerned and know that I love this is a

(47:11):
real struggle that they're going through and that you're willing
to do whatever you can to help them. Just imagine
if you're going through that struggle, if you're in a
dark place, you won't help, You won't help. You don't
want to be in that dark place. And or someone

(47:36):
that you're in.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
That dark place.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Don't dismiss someone that's reaching out to you. Don't say
they don't care, they can't help you. Listen to one.
Doctors they're they're out here that they care, they care
what you're going through. And I like with with Dr
Marsenberg indicated that when he's going through tells people he's playing,

(48:05):
he's not leaning on his own understanding. He's asking at
having father for direction. And if he's doing that, that
person is in good hands. Pray I do all but
maybe but for them, Yeah, others, because it's real and

(48:25):
it's real. I know I'm gonna through. Here's why I
would as a as a as a teenager, I was
struggling why would thank you Jesus. But I'm here today.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
We come to the crease of God.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Thank you Jesus.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Mmm, I'm piles and pilesul powers brus powerful and powerful.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
You know.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
I think I think I have Tiffany on. I don't
know if she's on or not, but she says she's
gonna try to call in. So Tiffany, if you, if
you're the uh, you, you can come home, because I
wanted to have you to come in. And I know
you deal with a lot of kids that go through
some changes, and and she's done, but she I just

(49:08):
I just know right now when I when I think
about the fact that this is the past couple of
weeks I told you all about the little girl that
was twelve years old and roder mom a letter talking
about thinking about committing suicide, and and it just just
really just it's been sticking with me for a while

(49:28):
because I get a chance to go to Youth Believe
in Change on Tuesdays and Thursdays from from one Thursday
to two thirty. It's for my math, but but I'm
more of the talking to them about Jesus. At the
very end of them of my session, I do the math.
But I'm telling these fact in third and fourth graders

(49:51):
and fifth graders, the established a relationship with Jesus Christ
and and and for me to see those kids and
and it's like it's like I'm telling them a little story,
a storytelling like they listening and sitting down in the stories.
But I'm telling them about establishing a relationship with Jesus
claim I'm telling them about the fact because I'm thinking

(50:12):
about the fact that just because they're in the second
or third or fourth and fifth grade don't mean that
they have no problem. The problems don't come up on them.
What they just want to give up. And so for
for Bruce and for TJ, and for for Dr Baby
Boy and Dr Marshall and Provider, for us to come
on here and saying we trying to give y'all some

(50:34):
counseling and always trying to tell y'all is to get
the relationship with Jesus claims. And if you if your
child is suffering with a mental help and and you
have a love for God, you're gonna show them love.
If you don't have Jesus on the inside of you
and your kids start to struggle, how you gonna show.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Them some love.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
You don't even know what love here because you don't
know Jesus.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
It's so important.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
What haven't and and and Dr Mars Dr H. Marshall
and and and and teaching and boosters and saying is
that it's all about Jesus because no one knows, uh
if you're gonna deal with some depression. But if I
tell you what, it's a big blessing if you have
someone in your life that's in love with Jesus Christ

(51:23):
that can show the show love sow love. So the
doctor Marshall, Man, if you if you were to have
something to say to to someone out there now that's
struggling with depression or have a kid that's going through it, Man,
what what how would you pour out your heart to

(51:45):
them to let them know that, Uh, with you being
a doctor and I have been a doctor, but both
of y'all having your relationship with Jesus Christ. Man, just
whatever whatever God puts on your heart to shad Doctor Marshall.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Yeah, I would say that there's always a way out, right,
you know. I think when we're struggling with whatever emotion
or thought we're having, there's always a way out. And
oftentimes when we don't see that way out, that's when
things get even darker.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Right.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
But I think if you're if you know someone who's struggling,
reminding them of that, right, and maybe you can be
that way out in a sense of just being a presence,
the supportive presence, a validating presence, right. And if you're
struggling yourself, remember that there is always a way out.
And sometimes that way out isn't immediate, but just taking

(52:42):
a step towards that way out can be huge, right.
And and so you know that that's something that I've
learned over the years and I've struggled, is that there
there's always a way out, and sometimes it takes a
little bit of work to find that way out, but
there always is and God always pods the way out.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Wow, Wow, it's good. Hey, Harry coming coming on what
you just heard and you heard the question, Harry, so
comment on that then. Yeah, yeah, that's just kind of
taking back and on what Marshall is saying. And you know,
there's always a way out, and I want to validate

(53:27):
the person and I just always go to someone their
name that you're fearfully and wonderfully way wonderful of the
works my soul knows it well. My soul knows it well.
So I'm trying to validate them that that God loves you,
that he has a plan and the purpose for you.

(53:49):
And if you if you're just trust him, We'll go
back to to this love. What we what we trust
a lover with all your heart, soul, mind and strength.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
Trying to get their attention off of themselves and get
their affections on the on the Lord, that he that
that you, that you're a uniquely made You're an image
bearer of God, that that he has a unique plan
and a purpose for your life. You may not see
it right now, but He's making provision for you. And

(54:24):
and and then along with with with with validating the person.
Now we got to capture the thought process the the
world to take those thoughts captures and make them obedience
to the Lord. And when those natives also are coming,
try to replace him, try to reframe them to the

(54:47):
best of your ability. Try try to have a rain
of word or right now word that that you might have.
That's why scripture memorization of scripture is not for the
sake of memorizing scripture. It's the sake of renewing your
mind when you're in a tight spot. That's why it's
so important as parents to shape the brain. See, the

(55:09):
brain and the mind are different, there are two different things.
See what when my brain knows the love of God,
then my mind can better interpret the word. So if
my brain doesn't know, it can't push anything too my mind.
My brain has to be shaped. Thank God for our

(55:32):
mother who shaped our brain earlier. Whether we want to
believe it, all that I get offer the scientist excepts
of it. But our brain was shaped. It was shape
to love, love the Lord with all our heart, soul,
mine and strength so much that Mark talks about it,
Matthew talks about it, and Luke talks about it in
the Gospel. It's that significant. And see Anti you look

(55:54):
at that loving God with all your heart, sould, mind, strength.
It's all on the inside. It's not excental. So all
this other stepf that we do is good and dandy.
But if the love is not on you on the inside,
it's not in your heart. That's not the love that
Christ was talking about. That's not the love that he
died for. My thoughts, love the Lord, my affections, love

(56:15):
the Lord, my choices.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Love the Lord.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
That's on the inside. That's the soul loving the Lord. See,
the spirit is good. The soul is what has to transform.
The soul is what has to transform to look like Christ.
So I need my thoughts to be all tied up
in Christ. I need my affections and my desires tied

(56:39):
up in Christ, and then my choices will follow. So
it's just trying to validate a person. And Marshall said
that you matter, You've mattered, You've mattered to your parents,
and you matter to God. Let's walk alongside, Let's take
baby steps, Let's let's let's begin to the dissect your heart.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
What what what?

Speaker 4 (57:04):
What's pulling your heart away?

Speaker 1 (57:07):
What?

Speaker 4 (57:07):
What's what's what's positing your affections to be somewhere other
than centered on Christ? And you only can find this
out by listening. Is this some past trauma that you've
gone through? Are you're still struggling with? Just in to
hear now your conscious mind? It is really listening and

(57:28):
walking alongside people. And I said this before, I don't
diagnose any people. All I try to do is a cycle.
But here's what we know then and subtem we live
in a following world. We're not looking at these disorders.
We we we we try to label people, but I
try to get away from label your image bearer.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
That's what you are.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
All these all these labels that we have. Think about
there are probably overly three hundred labels. Marshall probably knows
that we've labeled people. When somebody comes to you, you
look at what I do.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
I don't talk about what the labels of what I
try to, you know, come alongside people with I am
just I'm discipling you. Is what I'm doing walking with
you in a dark spot. So I would be careful
about speaking those things.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
You're this, you're that?

Speaker 4 (58:20):
How do they come to that?

Speaker 3 (58:21):
That that.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
That decision that you're this? A symptoms by I'm asking
me a bunch of questions. Then that then the you
as the psychologist, you say, I'm vince, I just have
a problem that it's not.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
It's not biological.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Like other diseases that we have. When we start talking
about this mind this is this is a this is
a slippery slope that I think we're on in our country.
Think we're just on a slippery slope because every year
we're coming up with new diagnosis of individual Well, I
just know, sir a ma'am, you're an image bearer and
God loves you.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
I love you.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
We're gonna walk through this together. That's my approach. That
that is my approach with whether you're young, old, whatever
it may be, trying to get to the heart of it.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I know I went around the map, but.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
That's that's not it.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
But you you're okay because we're trying to win souls.
But the Lord, we're out here trying to make a
make a difference in your boat, your own, and and
Mark's own, and Bruis his own, and man, we just
we just we're just on a boat. We're just on
a boat trying to trying to make a difference in
people's lives.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
That's all, you know. Because we made it.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
We made it through your testimony.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Have it.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Bruis is a testimony, Tim Pulsell the myself, we'll promester
the testimony of making it through a suicide. And and
we still we're still here without family and I got
my daughter for bipolar. But but guess what God is
in the back kind of stay. You may put that
label on it, but we just say, hey, God is
working it outright speaking and when you, oh, God is

(01:00:00):
working it out, you got patience. He's like, you can't
rush God to fix nothing. You gonna rush her to
fix something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
You just gotta be the one and say I'm in it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
I'm in it, I'm in it to win it, I'm
in it. That's one thing that my daughter knows that
no matter what, he's still gonna have a mom and
dad showing love. We're gonna still be showing her that
we're gonna be here for you. If that gives that
person that effort to say, I'm gonna give I can
do it. I can do it, I can do it.

(01:00:31):
I can do it. Marshall, Man, you gotta you gotta
give some information out how people can get in touch
with you. I know you go to Houston, you're in Houston,
but man, you know and them gonn let hire do
the same thing. But give out some information because see,
the people need to hire the right people that they're
talking to. All these people going in they counsel it is,

(01:00:52):
they counsel that. But if they ain't got Jesus, you
better you better check you better check them out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
You better check them out. I'm trying to give y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Some people were talking about all around the world you
able to call. You're able to call and speak to
this tomorrow Dr Marshall or Dodtor Baby Born to coll
and talk to them. Sit up a session.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Uh, this session was free, but when y'all called up, y'all,
sesson can't be free.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
I'm just gonna tell y'all, like ITHM, you got free
the kr You Portrait Radio with Bruce and TJ as
host and killing Richard Evan do your toe on Batness
by Jo Bother.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Told Rinches up, y'all got it for free today, you know,
because they want to make a difference. But that's their business,
that's what they in. But but Dr Marshall give out
your information for my listener on this.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
I work at Malatti Therapy here in Houston, Texas, and
I said I can be reached at Marshall. That's with
two l's at Malotte Therapy. So that's N A L
A T y Therapy dot com. So yeah, I feel
feel free to reach out and and be happy to
set up at at least a consolet with you and
we can go from there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Now. I'm good. Go ahead, doctor Baby.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Yeah, yeah, I can be great that dr effort at
count twenty twenty dot org. And then also I just
got approval from our board just the other night that
we set aside x amount of fun to actually to
offset costs for if you're coming to the counseling session
for with me and say you don't have all the costs,

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then we can help you meet the difference based on
you know, the funds that we have in this account.
So we're going to try to continue to add money
to this fund specifically to help individuals that need counseling
with inside of so strong counseling. And so if you
know someone out there, have them reached out of consultations

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free thirty minute consultation. I just want to connect with you.
Not really worried about the funds. The Lord will take
care of that, but let's connect.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
We'll give your pa, give information, not the baby because
we know you're still in training for Bruce on that
with for next year. So we just want to get
an information out man, because you may get you may
pass out on your little tricycle trying to get ready
for boost. So get out of the information again, doctor
baby boy.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely definitely trenting and then you come in.
I'll even talk to you a little bit about the
physical body. We'll go in depth with it. But no,
it's doctor every that camptween twenty dot org or you
can just put in so strong counsel and it'll come up.
Uh phone number two one four four five zero zero
one one five. Really would love to just conversate with you.
This is not this is not a you know, salary

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or anything that I'm trying to drive. This is more
of me just trying to me the need that's out there, Uh,
in our society today. That's the only reason I'm doing
because it has impacted me in more ways than one.
And if the Lord can use my pastime and my
career to get me to this point to come alongside
and counsel people. Man, I didn't consider it a joy,

(01:03:52):
but yeah, so strong counseling and just put it in
and I do virtual as well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
You know, doctor Brybo Boots, I know where that where
that passion comes from. Man, that's that's something from our mama.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
That's from Ruben faith.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Crowd of every she showed us about all love, about
always being able to give back. I always try to
make a difference. But again, my mom couldn't do what
she did if it hadn't be for our father, uh
kennelled in to their vid senior that made sure that
she was at home uh and nurturing her children, to
make sure that we had that personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
And so so we just we're just so thankful for

(01:04:27):
an opportunity that we've had to have, y'all on the show,
Brother Bruce, I know you you you uh you filled up?
And I know TJ. I lost t J, but I
think he's back on t J.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
You do TJ?

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
All right, t J.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Y'all lost TJ. Y'all don't know. See, let me tell
you what.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
Happened with just what I want to let y'all know.
T J fell off a boy He fell over boy man.
I mean I fell over boy man. He text me
come and say, I'm out a boy man? Can you
help me back up myself?

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Don't J. I don't jumped in. I'm three time. So
what I'm gonna take. But see, this is this is
how good God is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
See a lot of people would say, well, he's gonna
dropped off, and so that's okay, Well I just said, now,
I kept going off the line, putting him back on
going off the line, putting him back on going off
because see t J. Man, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
It's almost like it's almost like we're talking about what
we're talking about right now, right J. TJ is a
part of the k r E portray in radio booths
and myself.

Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
So if he files off of out the boyd do
Bruce and I are supposed to just keep on going
and say battle the TJ fell off, that's okay, keep
on going, that's all right. No, no, no, he said no,
he gotta he a part of this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
He's a part of this. And so I did everything
I could to just.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Mutophone, go back, try to get him back on mutophone,
go back, and try to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Get on and look.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
And then all of a sudden I called out his name,
and DJ say.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Hold y'all that word. Look, get the wallet of face man,
face up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
I'm back on the boat. So today, man, I'm just
glad that God made it made it for you to
have a clothing comment too on what we've had today.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
So go ahead, DJ, and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
The Okay, I was in and out today people, But
like everything is Jesus is the number one. He's number one.
Have a relationship, throw out heave any father. And what
Harry was talking about, it sounded like he was saying, look,
you may have some hardship with the little funds and
saying that we can be able to help you with

(01:06:28):
these mental situations that you might have. Don't let that
be of don't let that de car you from calling.
Be sure and try and get in touch when you
have those situations. You'll know him better than anybody else.
A's threams are changing, and you might need to talk
with someone. Feel free to reach out to Harry, feel
free to reach out to doctor Marshall. And first of all,

(01:06:49):
most important thing of all is this. We've got to
remember that the Lord said, don't be afraid, don't be scared.
He said that, So there's help, Parasha.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Thank you God, Brother brus Yes, so I think actually
TV had ran out of clinics and went to another
moment because we know how that's all good. Praise Law
for that. But uh yeah, I just wanted to uh

(01:07:22):
echo what brother Marshall said about there's always a way out.
I like that he stated that you know that for
someone don't don't give up. And what brother Harris said,
you matter, you matter, don't don't don't give up, and
and always rely on our helping father. James four eight says,
draw near to God, and you will draw near to you.
Trying to establish that the relationship with our heavenly Father

(01:07:45):
Jesus is knocking open the door. Invite a man.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
That's all you have to do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
John fourteen twenty six. Someone talking about about peace, I
leave with you my peace I gave you. If you
want peace, pretty life over to Jesus. Chris, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Awesome, awesome, awesome, Martha take it, take us up a
minute to close us out, and then take them in
to close this out. And then you know how we
close this out with jumbohood.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Absolutely yeah, I'll prepare. God, thank you so much for
bringing us together. God, you ordain everything, and nothing is
a mistake. You're not out there biting your nails. You're
not nervous God, because you ordain everything and you know
and we don't. But thank you for passing on the
knowledge that you do know. God, thank you for orchestrating
this time together. And we pray that this helps that

(01:08:36):
LEAs just one person.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Big good, thank you, thank God.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Goot doctor baby boy.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
Yeah, I just said, would you say, I just would
ask that you listening to orders audience, would just do
a little training on the inside because the weight of
the world is real, that's bringing pain is real. You
may strength, you may strength train this physical body, but
the physical body doesn't necessarily help you when these mental

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issues and things come on. That is good, but the
only key factor, the only factory, the solution. Even in
the process of still trying to heal and work through it.
He may you may not get healed in the process
on this side, but joy comes in the morning. Christ
has to be integrated in everything we do. And if

(01:09:35):
you do that, if you do that, you may still
have the pain, but you won't lose hope. Thank you
Christ for the hope of glory that you left us.
I don't have to take my life because I'm gonna
keep my eyes on you. It may not be right

(01:09:58):
right now now. I may not I have it all yet,
but i may not be doing all the things that
I desire, but I'm still hopeful. I'm not going to
lose hope. Stay in the boat, sir man, Stay in
the boat. I stay in the boat. Relief is coming.
I promise you, it's coming. I promise you, it is coming.

(01:10:19):
Don't get out of the boat. His presents are with you.
The thoughts are coming. They're gonna come in all of
our lives. But I'm staying in the boat.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Yeah, thank you about Wow powerful powerful. Well, you know,
after after all of this, man, I was I was
talking to God. I was like, like Marshall said, you
know when he's with his pac and sometimes he's talking
to God at the same time he's But I've been
on this podcast, I'm still talking to Jesus Christ. And
so he gave me the poem that my daughter wrote.

(01:10:48):
I want to close out with this poem. And she
wrote this poem when she was fifteen years old, and
I did it once before she did it. And and
because we talking about mental health for a while and money,
because me talking about suicide, and we're talking about all
the things that are going on in people's lives, especially
right now, I want to read this poem that you
row tiles. He guides me, and I want you to

(01:11:12):
listen close linking people. If you going through some changes,
you need to listen, because if you got him, he's
gonna guide you here, I said, it says. When I
find myself tossing violently onto the shore and I feel
like I can't take anymore. He guides me when I

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feel like the wind in my storm makes things too
hard and I have had enough. He guides me when
the depression is high and joint is.

Speaker 6 (01:11:46):
Low, when I feel like I can't even walk through.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
And already open doors. He guides me when I'm blinded
by the darkness and no light of pears, and all
in my heart I feel fear. He guides me when
sickness run rapid and death. Guide to the eye in

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the and it.

Speaker 7 (01:12:13):
Feels like nobody cans. He guides me when I have
to cry out to God because I'm weak and I'm
painly trying to walk on soil, run down feet.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
He GUIDs me when I can't talk and have nothing
to say because I have had enough headaches. What today?
He guides me. He guides me safely into his arms,
healing my broken hearts, my sindness and scars. He gently
takes me into his arms and lets me know even

(01:12:50):
though I'm down and feeling like I'm in the midst
of defeat, he will guide my worried feet. He lets
me know even though I'm going through a storm, I
will not be harmed because he guides me by Princess
Camilla age fifteen. So if you going through some things

(01:13:14):
right now, and like TJ and Boost always says, give
God to try and get Jesus a chance, I promise
you he'll guide you. And this podcast today is one
that you need to go to listen to this over
and over again. It's all you gotta do is go
to k r eworldwide dot com. Let me say that again,

(01:13:39):
k r eworldwide dot com and this podcast will be
up and you can listen to it over and over again.
When you feel like you want to commit suicide, when
you feel like you can't go, stroll through this podcast,
get to the very last of the podcasts and learn
and hear the ones he guides me. I go back

(01:14:01):
to the previous podcast when I read the poem thinking
about killing yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
You don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
This is this has been the opportunity to close out
uh Mental Health of Warnings. Martin with with with doctor
baby Boy, doctor Harry Everett, doctor Marshall Mosenblacker to try
to let you know the spiritual side when my brother
Bruce and Kej and and and and and the fact

(01:14:28):
that we heard trying to make sure that we don't
have to hear about no one else committed suicide that
we know of, because it's sad when someone in life
is taken or they take their life and they leaving
all these loved ones behind to go through it. And
we are thankful today, Bruce and my family and Hiring
and the rest of us that my mom introduced us

(01:14:48):
to Jesus Christ. But when my father took his life,
we could continue on with life. And so don't want
you all to know that you can always count on
Bruce and TJ always on this boat speaking from the heart.
You can count on anybody that comes on this podcast.
They're gonna be pouring their hearts out just like doctor

(01:15:09):
Marshall and doctor Baby Boy did. Everybody comes on this
podcast is in love with Jesus Christ because they're going
fishing for souls. Just like having said at the end,
get on this boat and still on this boat, So
tell somebody, Tell somebody. Sundays at two thirty Central Downdard time,
we fishing for souls for Jesus Christ. Support the podcast.

(01:15:29):
Go to the Worldwide dot Com. That's the support button.
Support us because we're gonna keep going fishing for souls.
Help us, help us to go more and more around
the world. And once again, you got to remember Jus.
It's something that we won't tell y'all. Thank you, and
y'all come back again because we're gonna be back next

(01:15:51):
week with somebody else that's gonna be in love with
Jesus Christ. Y'all have a blessed thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Praise Lord, Thank you Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
I think, thank you, law and I have thank you,
said