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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I legitimately would not have been mad if they moved
literally anybody on the team. But but, but, yeah, no,
they got rid of Jake Bird, even with as terrible
as he's been in the last month. By the way
words bullpen and baseball the last month have the Rockies
been you know the team that was right above them,
the Yankees. That was why they went and got Jake Bird.
Here today saw how do we not.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Play the Yankees? Every time? It's it? How does it
not happen?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's again? We're doing our best this week.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Okay, I'm not calling out Alan Baka. He just got it.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Somebody get Andy a button.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Remember in the day the carts. You're probably too young.
I didn't you remember.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Whole life was putting on a rack of carts. Yes,
I was digital guy, I've.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Only known.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
You've only been digital two thousand and four. When I
took over as a producer, it was already I was
already living next gen life by that.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Have you not ever cut tape like action? To cut
the I was a.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Whiz on that I had. You'd mark it with the
grease pencil. You'd had a little piece of I never
did it walking.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Around with razor blades, like they didn't know if you were.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, here's what Here's what I became. Here's a fun story.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
I became proficient, incredibly proficient in all these skills. And
then one day I walked into studio and everything I
had trained for fifteen years was completely irrelevant. It was
a wonderful feeling to realize I knew absolutely nothing anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Five years will be there again. Yeh, Hey, have you
run film with the clicker?
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Then?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Coach? Are you a clicker guy?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Big clicker guy?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
What about the reel to reel?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Have you have you done that stuff?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
That's my dad, my dad. My dad tells me a lot.
The best is when you have a bunch of thirty
something and forty something football coaches and my dad, who
is he was a NEPO daddy because he was working
for his son, sure, very similar to Bill Callahan working
as the O line coach for Brian Callahan at the
Tennessee Titans. So my dad was a running back coach
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and special teams coordinator. And when the thirty something and
forty something's talked about cutups, Hey, we're gonna watch some
cutups of inside zone.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Today, it was because it was cut.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
My dad said, you guys realized that I used to
cut the actual spicing of film and make them. And
I'd have to go in a dark room and find,
you know, this this catalog over here and splice it together.
And then Marv Goo, who's the O line coach at
USC at the time, screaming at me as he rips
his cigarette in the Offensive staff, is that.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
How you started as a as a film guy, as
a tape guy, as a tape jockey.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Basically me, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Started as the drawer. That's like the drawer. Yes, I'm
like Simon, I do draw.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So in really the West Coast offensive world, and Sean
Payton being one of these disciples descendants if you will,
of Bill Walsh and various various forms of drawing, the
quality control guy. This is what Sean McVay was for Gruden. Yeah,
he was his Simon, his drawing guy. So you draw
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the ball plays and in the West Coast offense there's
about fifteen different ways you could run, about fifteen hundred
different concepts, and so all you do is sit in
front of a computer on visio. At the time, for me,
it was actually exos, which is a college football and
pro football tool that they're still using to watch film
and create playbook stuff that's intercut into the film. And
(03:27):
I'd sit there and draw on a computer all day,
every day until the wee hours of the night.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
All Right? Is this why you guys? Is this why
your dad was of the generation?
Speaker 7 (03:37):
I don't know if he did it where you worked
the ninety hour weeks and slept in the office and
knowing is this what you were actually up to?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
A right?
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Because when I hear the stories of like Shanahan's staff
putting in one twenty, I'm just.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Like, bro, what are you doing? There's okay? For first off,
you know you need to just call it good for
the weeks.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Just to be clear, the reason that the drawer drawer
is working oftentimes till three or four in the morning
is because of the ridiculous time wasting that's taking place
between the guys that are making twenty million dollars as
the head coach and the offensive coordinator it's making one
point nine million dollars. I'm sitting there like, hey, are
we gonna we're gonna talk about how we're gonna run
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the inside zone this week? Or are we just gonna
that We're just gonna tell stories about the nineteen ninety
three Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
That was Sean Payton today, guys, it was a storyteller.
It was story time with Sean. It was was he.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
In a good mood?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
He said it generally. Yeah, he got into storytime. He
started talking about building out a staff. He told old
tales of Bill Kohlar coming to visit him in New
Orleans right after Katrina and Kohlar seeing a boat on
the side of the road and being like, I don't
think I should come work here right now. But he
was talking about the challenges of building out a staff.
(04:50):
And and yes, it was story time with Uncle Sean
today after practice, because it was that practice today, it
was yesterday was very physical and we made a big
deal out of it.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
The most physical practice that we have seen today.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Today's a guy got.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Her polar opposite today. Uh, today was no pads. Today
was takeing a easy.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Can we clear something up for all of our listeners?
You may I have heard multiple people on these airwaves
talk about today's attire of the day as shells.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Oh, I've already gotten this lecture from Spider or from
a from Tyler go ahead.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Tyler said the same thing I think today.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
No, he said spiders.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Okay, I heard him one good Today I was listening
to what are PhD what are spiders?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Spider pads?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
So the offensive linemen are wearing what looked like smaller
versions of shoulder pads.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Sure slighter, a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
The spiders are the traditional sense is what you used
to wear underneath your shoulder pads, as like almost like
a girdle in play. There he goes, here comes out.
Hell will not talk to us, but we will have everything.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Displayed for you to say.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Baka is a he's big and the visual es yes.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
And I just found out who my favorite rock of
all time is, Producer Extraordinaire Rock Baka Rock Baca. Yes,
that's a good name.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I think we might have given him a new nickname.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
What about broncos legend Rock Alexander? How about that one?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Marvin Harrison says hello and hello and hello.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
How about a rock me like I'm a big canoe.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
They sees the letters and somehow they've got to.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Be pronounced ironically, it was pronounced when when when Canute
came over from I think it was.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Dutch Rockney sounds, but he was.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
He was known as not as Newt as we call him,
but Canute.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Some buddies that go by Dezamin.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
So I can considered I considered today's attire as helmets
and spider just helmets. Is fine because if you if
you looked at the skill players, they weren't wearing anything
on the upper half for their body other than a jersey.
So it's helmets, h huh, shorts a jersey and then
(07:06):
spider pads are essentially optional gear for the old line
so they don't bust their clavical in there, you know,
as they're running gap schemes in the run game to
not so helmet and shoulder pads.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Are they real that shells that was yesterday? No? No, no,
that's full.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That's full pack jack baby, full pack jack is helmets,
shoulder pads and pants football pants.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That's full. Were they not in that yesterday? No, they
were full, They were full yesterday.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
The shells is shoulder pads, helmets, shorts, shoulder pads, helmets shorts.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, they were not in shoulder pads.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I don't know if we've.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Seen as I would traditionally call shells.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Okay, you said something interesting today.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Believe it or not. Wow, this is incredible.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
You you said something today that I found fascinating because
and and you're in I think in many ways with
with your with your high school team. Right now, you're
probably in a little bit at the same boat. You
made a comment as we were looking at practice, and
you go, I remember this practice from last year, which
is interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
So Sean Payton is he's in year three in Denver,
but this is your second camp. You've sat and you've
watched him, and you're able to do so. And I
think you do it from a very coaching lens. And
you were you sort of talking about sequencing of drills
and intensity and all those kind of things. Is that like,
(08:29):
are you a year to year I run the same
program to ramp up guy? How much are you adjusting
it year in and year own? Becauseean Payton's been an
NFL coach head coach now since two thousand and six,
Like he's got the program.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Dial correct now and he's won a Super Bowl. So
a lot of times when you have a season that's
particularly good, or even a game week that yields a
really good Saturday in college.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Football or Sunday in the National Football League.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
You go back and try to replicate that, Yeah, exact schedule,
how did you ramp up? So I'm guessing that what
we're seeing in terms of the schedule and today. Why
I said I've seen this practice before, is that a
year ago, I remember padded practice, padded practice, padded practice,
and then it was helmets, and I assumed it was
gonna be an hour and twenty minute practice.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It went long.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
It's like a really long chill practice with a lot
of talk through instruction, a lot of situational football. And
I said, I remember this practice and I remember at
the time I was looking for a Bonicks response day, and.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It's really one of those practice three can't spawn because.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
There's not much full speed live I know live is
a there's no there's no live tackle to the ground
in training camp, preseason football.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
But there wasn't many opportunity.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
There aren't. There weren't many opportunities a year ago, and
there weren't many opportunities today. Who am I now? Well,
I haven't been successful as a head coach. So the
reality is is that I am, I am, I am.
I AM going every single day to try to find
out the best possible plan for that day.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Sure, but also like you have to feel the vibes
of the thing, like like, okay, because of the physicality
of yesterday. And Sean knows he wants to ramp up
to a to a situational scrimmage on Saturday. Is what
he talked about after practice today, so he knows. Okay,
it's Thursday. We went hard yesterday. This was always gonna
(10:24):
be a back off day and make it a like
you said, situational. It's instructional, it's talking, but it was
not a day with a lot of popping or anything else.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
But okay, but I got a question for you, okay,
cause you talked about the responts.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So Tyler and I had this.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Interesting interaction yesterday. We told Nate about where we leave
the tent. We all are familiar with the tent, and
Sean was coming down, I'm assuming to join a NFL network,
and it looked like Ian had stepped away. Ian Rapaport
had step away, so they're gonna have to put off whatever.
He says a load to Colin or Colleen and then
whips one eighty and he comes over and he says
me and Tyler, now, first off, I thought he was
(11:01):
just going to skip past me because he knows I'm
just media slow. But he actually shook my hand, said
alone and was very pleasant.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
How didn't make you feel very weird? I'm like, wow,
I just I really was expecting to be ignored you
guy today, not necessarily. How was the hand shape? It
was slish.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
No, he wasn't you know what. He wasn't trying to
prove anything. He was there, he was there.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
He didn't drop the easy on the easy guy guy. No, No,
and he didn't. He didn't give me.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
He didn't give me the businessman's uh you know, the
old the old bish of throwing the towel down at
the market.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Anyway, here's my question. Uh So Tyler and Coach talked
for a while.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
They've told the stories of that, but Tyler said, you know,
he's relatively happy with things. He doesn't seem stressed. So
my question is when does competitive Sean come out?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Because look.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Like I feel like you're unlocking for me a reason
why maybe I've expected crank e ars Sean at the
podium because the offense has not had its day yet.
Now we all know the defense they're going against, but
at some point you're a play caller, doesn't complay.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
He's the play call don't do the color guy come
out at some point. I don't do.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Well right now in my current life when when the
d beats the Broncks off me in one practice, let
alone three or four. Now, the only thing I did
have the converse I had the thought about Saturday was
a pretty good offensive practice from what I heard.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And that's the.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Day that Sean Payton called out all these stupid little
internet shows. He was salty Sean on Saturday. Sometimes as
a head coach, as a play caller, you're actually a
bigger d bag or jerk or whatever you want to
call it. When you have success on your side of
the ball. Interesting less coaching to do because it's almost
too obvious that you're going to go in front of
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a podium after the entire group watched the practice, saw
your side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Look like crap, Oh you want to make a point? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
So it's almost like the the it's like you you
get into this opposite world of our offense was so
good today.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Therefore I'm going to be a total jerk to you.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Well, isn't There also has to be because Sean his
he has vocalized it and said it out loud. But
also I think he knows anything special this team is
going to do is because of its defense. He and
and that's where he spent his money this offseason. Is
he went and splurted on the defense. He's about to
go and dump a bunch more money on Zach Allen.
(13:21):
And we're gonna see what's gonna happen with Nick Bonito.
But like his defense, he's talked about that being bo
Nicks's best friend. Sean is of the belief I will
win this Anything special this team does, like win playoff games,
is going to be because our defense is awesome.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Where all the investment is. Yeah, it's where you added
strength to strength.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yep. The additions of telling.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Whufonga and Drake Greenlaw went healthy made this defense elite
to me.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
By the way green Law with the quad thing today, world,
No that we're now here in quad.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
The same it was the same as last time.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Is that what bugged him over the summer, right is
that it I was wondering described how.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
He was in Chase and then he pulled up.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Sean today at the podium. If I'm not mistaken, did
say that it was not the same must.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Not as what was holding him back this summer.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, so the the the tweet from earlier in the
day from Luca Evans.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, but let's see, I.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Want to give him a shout out. He's the young
guy that's been challenged by Sean a couple of times.
He's not back down at all.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Do you know who he is? I know he was
at USC.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Do you remember you guys, remember very salty Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Luca was the reason.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Luca was the guy that was banned from covering USC
football from the Orange.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Which love that. Oh I didn't.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I never put that together.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I put it. I put it together day one.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I was so excited to go, you're the guy that
Lincoln Riley Welcome to the jungle, baby.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You know what I gotta tell you.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
I think I think Luca's earned a couple of stripes
with Sean. I think it's not all the way there.
Sean still gets him a little bit for being a
young guy. But but uh, Sean even has had a
different tone towards him well from Mini Camp.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Okay, guys, I've got yet another update. As I scanned
through his timeline right now, he got smifed, Oh, tweet's
not there, so did I Yeah, you know, I got
says he's got the cut forward. We've got Sean Payne's explanation.
Should should but but Luke, but Luca Evans. He he
(15:29):
did tweet out and I believe he may have talked
to the agent. He tweeted out the injury update earlier
today in some detail, saying it was a quad thing.
Here was Shawn's update to it today.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
No, I think he's fine.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
We in the one on one period, you know, he
felt it got tight different area and uh so we'll
no more. We'll go ahead and have you know, all
the the procractionary work done.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But I think he'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Tightness in different area, got that?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, uh huh uh huh.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Sometimes you're looking for tightness in the area. Other times
you're not. Pause what listen, O listen? Hey who was
talking six to twelve a little too much early on
in his show?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
One this one? Yet? So according to now we're now
we're all scanning Twitter.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Well, according to multiple people that we were at the
podium today, he motioned to the back of his leg. Okay,
Shawn did when he said different area, different area and
he kinda he kind of slapped the hambone if you will. Okay,
the old the hamhock, the old, the one they throw,
the one they throw in the car.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Too tightness in a handbun. Remember in Zelda, you get
one of those you're eating? Well, got all your hearts back?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Hey, I got a uh, I gotta I got a
Broncos take. I'm gonna I'm gonna fire at you guys
when we come back, and you can scream back at
me if you want. But I I got something that
I feel pretty strongly about on this on this Denver
Bronco team, and it has to do with a key
AFC West Division rival. I will tell you what that
(17:05):
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it is, fellas the Denver Broncos are going to go
to a zero against the Kansas City Chiefs this year. Wow,
(17:28):
bold take two and oh that's two victories, zero losses.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
What now Here's I want? I'm not shocked about the
home one.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What are you laughing about?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
I have an unbelievable rebuttal question to that.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Okay, I'm just saying it's the one in Kansas City
that's always tough, always has been tough.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Christmas Day, Yeah, late in the season.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
There's something about December and Arrowhead kind of Uh, Mike
Shanahan could never master that.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
People forget what amazing feat it was for the Broncos
get past that right in their first Super Bowl trip,
and they also did.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Win a December game in Arrowhead. But that's that's where
I start. The Broncos will go to and Oh against
the Chiefs this year specifically because when I when I
match up these two teams against one another, the Broncos
strengths I think pierced directly through the armor of the
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Chiefs weaknesses.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Played out in real time in the in the one
real matchup that you had against the Chiefs that Arrowhead Yeah,
where you won the football game one, except for you
couldn't protect on a field goal.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, you couldn't kick the game winning field goal, and
that killed you. But they should have been to and
Oh against those guys last year. I've been following a
little bit of the news that's been coming out of
Chiefs camp. It's not real good and it's not just
Mahomes love handles we're talking about here.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Oh wow, okay, wow.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So body shaming is becoming a big part of the
twenty twenty five football season.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
It really is your worry about that?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
And uh, Kansas City's own uh what beat what radio?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
He's a radio podcast, podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Radio having a dad bod said you wouldn't fit in
at the pool. I say that part of jest.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You go stand next to his coach. Everybody feel better.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Man, Now we're body shaming coaches. We're doing it to everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
So Andy Reid looks like the kool aid. Man.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I'm looking at at the Chiefs right now, okay, and
I'm looking across their offensive line. So right guard Trey Smith,
one of the highest paid guards in football.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Arguably the best guard in football. So probably outside of Quentin.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Nelson, Trede Humphrey and center, your set. Fine, You good
to go.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
The three other positions on your team are either in
flux or borderline fluxy. And I say it in this way.
You've got a rookie left tackle in Josh Simmons out
of Ohio State, you've gotten coming off a big injury
last year, first rounder thirty two.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay, so you don't count that when we when do we?
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Because leg he always says there's usually eighteen to twenty
actual first round grades. Yeah, is that when the first
round technically ins Now.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
There's those that will make the argument that Simmons fell
because of his injury, sure and could have been higher
graded than that, still rookie left test.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Also, Simmons was in that same draft class with these
six quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Am I right?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
And seeing that Andros and Brian Thomas Junior and Marvin Harritt,
I mean this is that was a.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
That's a first round, full first round king.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Nonetheless, you're picked where you're picked, Sue Mattea nicely b
Yu get b Yu drafted to play tackle, was so
good at it that he's getting worked in at guard
right now at left guard?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Is that a step back?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I believe so.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And you've got Juwan Taylor, who you don't trust in,
who false starts on every single play, and so you
paid Jalen Moore and brought him in. But Moore is
also getting work over at guard, and right now he
basically looks like a fifteen million dollar swing tackle. This
is a Chiefs offensive line that is set in very
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good at two spots. But two spots does not an
offensive line, make no?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
And by the way, why why did they get rid
of Toney Tonny whatever?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Money? Yeah? I think it came down to dough.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
They're gonna miss that right, Yes, oh, yes, he's gonna
show up. You don't lose good players like Fine.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Tray Smith and Tony were the stalwarts.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, Hollywood Brown has already been carted off in practice.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Because of an ankle.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Here we go again.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Rashie Rice has a looming suspension. You've got injuries all
over the place on an already suspect receiving corps.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Oh, by the way, Travis Travis kelce is you know.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
What he's doing right now?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
He's already gonna foot out the door.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Do you want to know what Travis Kelcey's problem is.
He's got honey painted all over him and bears are
eating him. He's got a happy Gilmore too.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Have you seen it?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I fell asleep twenty minutes in Travis kelce I'll be honest,
I tried.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Travis Kelcey's body.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah, looks like mine, And it was awesome, because I
haven't been a very consistent manscaper recently, and I got
a nice solid chess curtain going on chess drapes around click.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
I don't need to hear about seventies. Mike Sandford, you
escape the es I have before as as of late?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Did it grow back thicker and fuller like on Seinfeld?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It's come back tenfold. Brother.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
So my wife and I were watching Happy Gilmore too. Yeah,
and she looks at me when Travis Kelcey comes on
the screen.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
He goes, he looks just like you, and she laugh
took it as a compliment.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I'm it's great, but that's also not good for Travis.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Football ready to play tight end in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
With all due respect, they ran also forty three basically
it's Travis and three based offense.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Last year they sucked. Yeah, they won twelve one score
games a year ago on their way to fifteen victories. Okay,
you're not going to win twelve one score games again.
It just will not happen for you.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Okay, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I legitimately think this offense is suspect at best, even
with the best quarterback in the world and the Denver
front in addition to a secondary that I don't think
has to cover anything special. Right now, I think the
Broncos are poised to eat.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
This year against the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Outside of the quarterback position in Kansas City, which offensive
position group would be even considered in the better half
of the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I would say tight end only because of Kelsey, And
I'm probably saying that because a reputation.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
What about Pacheco in the running back group?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
His run style though, Man it is okay.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
But see, here's my problem. I've told you this before.
It just feels like we're all tired of the greatness.
We're all bored with it. So we're gonna come up
reasons why they're not great anymore, but not worry about.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
They really weren't great last year.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I again, I know, I'm talking about a fifteen win team,
but that offense was but.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
It was, but it wasn't good.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
And frankly that they won fifteen games of last year, Guys,
they lost the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
We're just gonna push that off to the side.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
It was whatever deal with the devil they had last
season to keep squeezing these games out, including one against
Denver at Arrowhead. I you're right, Andy, Like we we're
talking about a team that has been to the super
Bowl three years in a row, but also the last
seven of the last seven. There's no denying it. But
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there were there were cracks in the armor that were
evident a year ago, and now I'm looking at it
and I'm going, I don't know how you got any better.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
I don't disagree. But here's the thing. Here's here's my
warning for the Chiefs. Okay, before we all just kicked
the fresh dirt on them.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
They don't need to be the.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Division winner to find their way to the super Bowl.
They don't proven that they don't. They went through Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I already picked Denver to win the AFC West, and again.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Did they not be Buffalo and Baltimore two years ago?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I am in They're so enamored with this Bronco defense
that I'm watching day in and day out. And by
the way, that Bronco offensive line they're actually good.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
They're good.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
They're a hell of a lot better than Kansas City's
and they're having a rough time with that Denver front seven.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I got no problem with that, but in that group is.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So damn good going up against again a Chiefs offense
that I know they have Mahomes. Okay, I'm not denying
the best quarterback in the world, but I think that
that thing is being held together by Scotch tape right now,
and I think this is the year for the Broncos
to finally pounce and get those guys twice.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I want to pose a quick question to both of you, fellas,
fine fellas and the textures as well. Shot Moss the
text line three zero three five four nine two five.
If you were to say of your AFC West divisional
rivals in order from one to three, where you would
say you are most likely to sweep between the Chiefs,
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the Raiders, and the Chargers, how would you rank one
through three in terms of getting two victories over said team?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Raiders?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Chiefs Charger same. I was gonna give the exact same,
and only.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Because the Chargers got you last time last year, but
both times last year, and remember you were up pretty
good on the second.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Game, are you Chargers? Yeah? Okay, the one year Christmas,
what did they had the lead? Then the weird stuff
at the half.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
The run, the ball ric estimate King rolling, and then
Otter cast never touched the football.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
It felt like we were bored with greatness.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Harball get one, He'll get one. Yeah, I don't. I
don't see them sweeping the Chargers this year. I think
Kansas City's good. The Chargers are good.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
I think with the Raiders, Raiders will be better. They
will be tough for there will be the competent football game.
I still think the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
If the Raiders were in any other division, I'd be
over here saying that's that's a wild card dark horse
right there, like, look out for that team if they
were in any other division.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
They're just in a brutal, freaking division.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Though, why do you feel any different? Would you put
the Chiefs out of the Raiders. I don't have the
greatest feeling.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
I love the skill I love the skill position players
of the Raiders right now. But again, gino, here, here's
why you're gonna make it competitive?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Not good enough to beat the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I don't have the greatest feeling of the Denver Broncos
sweeping either the Chargers or the Raiders whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
He really, here's why.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Is this a Pete Carroll base to take it?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Is?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh Yeah. Both share a similar
identity of how to win football games, which is what
run the football, play really good.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Defense, beat you up, be patient.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
How did that match up a year ago in what
I would say wasn't an ultimately talented football team, especially
in the offensive skill player positions for the For the
Los Angeles Chargers, you lost both games. Yeah, because Sean Payton,
for whatever reason, does not want to run the football
when he's got an elite defense and win with that.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
SUNI and what did Harbaugh do this offseason when he said, Okay,
I liked my run game last year, it can be
even better than that. He upgraded across the board at
that position. He was out and got Najen. He drafted
Omari and Hampton. He's got two really good backs behind
a pretty solid offensive line should they stay healthy. But
it's the Chargers offensive line.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Can we all agree the upgrade of the bat the
running back room for the Broncos too, though they did.
I feel like running back room is better than a
year got a doubt, and I do think hopefully that convinced.
I don't think Sewan's ever gonna totally go away from
what he is, which is a passing ballgame coach.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
He likes that.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
But I do think he'll have more confident in the run.
He'll be more confident in the run options this year
than he was a year. Should be, especially when you
look at the second game. Now, you're right, Rodrick Estaman
looked like he was starting to feel a little something
that game, and he just quit giving him the rock.
Nobody really knows why. And I love I hate being
so down on Javonte Williams, but what else you gonna do.
The guy could have been really good back, really could
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and then that knee injury. That knee injury's just done
what we've seen so many times. Unfortunately, it just stole
his thunder from Dallasallas. Oh my god, they're acting like
he's gonna rejuvenate their run game. I'm like, guys, did
did he go to Europe and get something done to
his knee? I don't know about Maybe he should maybe
get the Adrian Peterson try. It is too bad because
he was a very fun running back his first two years.
(29:50):
But like you see so often, I mean, they blew
his knee up. I said to Scotty on our podcast
last night. If we all really remember, Leggy was telling us.
He probably should have been playing when he was playing
when he came back from that ne injury.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
But he's a running back.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
He has no choice but to make himself a cripple
to try to extend his NFL career.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Another strange conversation to have coming off the backs of that, too,
to no discussion about the Broncos being able to beat
the Chiefs twice in a season they will. What would
be the power ranking for you, two fellas, for teams
that you're most fearful of sweeping the Denver Broncos in
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Well, Chargers would be number one.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, that would just going to really again, it's it's
it's just one hundred percent matchup based. I don't think
that I don't think the Chargers are vastly better than Denver,
but that run game.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Okay, let me ask you this.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
This is a tough question to answer because and I
love the insight you guys have provided today from Shawn's
answers to what you've seen, we shouldn't be expecting to
see a lot out of the offense yet, because clearly
this is the building phase. As you said, Glad, your coaches,
I caught that But that said, are we positive we've
seen anything?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
And I asked this, this is not a Bonis.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Question because of my take last year, people are going
to assume it is. It's not a Bonix question. I
think it's his team, and I think he's a better
quarterback than he was a year ago. I'm excited to
watch what year two brings. But I've been asking all offseason,
get the guy, someone who can break a tackle and
make more of a play than you drew it up for.
And I'm not sure so sure they have that still.
I think Marvin Mims could be that guy if he
called the right plays for him. He doesn't seem to
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want to call those plays for him. So with that
being the case, started to with that being the case,
are we sure they have enough offensively to get past
the Bills or a Ravens.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Here's the fun part of what.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
We have a hard time getting to that place yet?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
All right? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Yeah, because I think it could be slug now. The
Broncos defense needs to play better than it did at
least the second half of that playoff game against the Bills.
There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
The Ravens last year.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
Yeah, and you definitely can't go doing that. But again,
we're hyper focused on the division. I do feel like
Sean would for whatever reason. Shawn has shown he knows
the Chiefs. He's got his formula for the Chiefs. Now
they've got to be able to pick out the teams
that may get in the way. Say you get past
that first round and the Bills and Ravens are chief
among them.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
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as they take on the Lions.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yes, so we will probably see play quarterback tonight. Do DJ.
Who's he playing for? H He's a Charger? Who else
is a Charger?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
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Speaker 2 (32:52):
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Speaker 7 (33:16):
By the way, how much fun would it be? And
I guess I'm the only guy that can volunteer with you,
you two lightweights. Should I try to outdo MOS's inbreak
donut hole eating just to I'm not sure I could,
is the thing? How big were those donut holes he
housed in like two minutes?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I think they were a regular donut of.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
The standard is standard munchkins from Dunkin Donuts.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I Duncan wants to swing some by, I'll give it
a go. Listen counted ten.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
What I thought was the most entertaining part of that
video is like he was he was popping about like
two three at a time, and then and then he
would go away. He'd go to the laptop he'd look
at the phone or whatever, but then it would like
dawn on him, like still there, those are damn good
And then he'd go back and then it was like
another series.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
The last one.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
He went full popcorn scoop with his hand and just
went point count eleven. I think the fourteenth and final
Munchkin that he consumed whole. I actually fed him.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
When I arrived. I took it right out of the
box and I plopped it right in his mouth.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
I had no idea at that time was thirteen up
into that?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
How many did he have had? Fourteen in one sitting
in that break? Yeah, fat guy, Like, don't worry about that. Yeah,
the one happened to get to fifteen.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Wait, the one that you fed him? Was that one
on the video?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
It was not It was not video.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
See see now, I think if you get that on video,
then it's like, Okay, we got crossover appeal with only fans.
Like then it becomes a thing. That's now what you are?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
You a donat munchkin feeding fetish. We started getting into
the two type of people in the world bred.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
These broadcaster feeder genre. We'd be doing well for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I uh, should I do it? Should we go.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
I believe you can do it, Andy, I have so
much faith.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I completely believe in you.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
See. Here's the thing is Walmart, the big company there
you go, has these.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
All of us, they do, but they they have these
chocolate donut holes with sprinkles on them that I was
pulling a motion where I would literally leave the room,
and the allure of the chocolate and the sugar still
on my lips would bring me back from another part
of the house to go like for five more and then.
But I kept using restraint of you know, the angry
(35:38):
coach's voice from my high school telling me, you fat slob.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You will not go back in there. You will not
consume anymore. You will stay outside of use some yard work.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I'm guessing if I kicked the.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
Coach out of the scenario, I I might fifteen.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
You could do it easily, so much many it's not
during the process, you know what.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
My favorite part, it's when you're done.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
My favorite part of that of that montage was when
Mose pulls the typical guilt ridden over conception and he
gets rid of the box temporarily and.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Then reading.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
It's fantastic. How many times have you done that?
Speaker 1 (36:19):
The old Louis c k bit pre cancelation was was
about being at the party and like returning to the
tray of cookies, but making sure there was a different
crowd of people in the kitchen around it and acting
as though you've rediscovered the oh.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Day of cookies.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yes, you just got here even though you knew exactly
what you were doing.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Take the long walk around the house.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Louis c k was canceled? Was he he was during
twenty in the in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Uh, it was right around there.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Yeah, has he been uncanceled?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
He's I think he's like selling out Madison Square Gardens. Yeah,
he's back to He was a he was a take
it out guy.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Do you want my little party story? It out? He
took it out? Yeah, it was. It was not with consent. Yeah,
took it heat, Okay, took took it out. It out.
I one time was at a party. How's this good?
At one to where? Oh? Just the way you figured?
Speaker 4 (37:17):
It was a fourth July party and I was really hungry.
What good I'm but I'm just not a personal telling
about taking it out? Whose house it was?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
This was also your birthday?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
It was and I was hungry. Uh and so, and
you know it's your birthday.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
So people, I was twenty two and was expected or
twenty one expected to have a few.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So I need some to eat, So have a feud
in the night.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
Earlier than I prefer get a base. So anyway, I
asked my buddy, I'm like, look, man, where's the kitchen.
I need some to eat. There's got to be some
in there, right This party has food, doesn't it. So
he tells me where the kitchen is and I go
in there and all I see her brownies.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Oh yeah. I didn't know whose house it was. Were
they laced? They were?
Speaker 7 (37:56):
But I didn't know because again I wasn't I was
not educated today.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
And I'm like, man, these aren't really fluffy brownies. Hear you?
Speaker 3 (38:03):
You eat one and then you get the munchies and.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Then you just have the tray because I was starting.
And my buddy walks in and he goes, did you
find anything?
Speaker 7 (38:10):
I go, just brownies are a little not They taste
a little earthy, earthy, earthy.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
And he goes, wait a minute, you ate these brownies?
And I go, yeah, how about I.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Can find half a tray, half a trail.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Weird. Let's just say they were throwing fireworks at me.
By the end of that, I wasn't reacting. That's a
weird night. It looked like it looked like I was
on the step. I wanted to move, but none of
my limbs were responding. Uh huh. Yeah. He just laughed.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
He's like, you ate all these and he at that
time of consuming half a tin of brownies that were
ultimately very green, it was the party. Where were you
at in your own personal relationship with said product? There
was no relation you were you were No, That's why
I was like. My buddy was like, how did you
(38:59):
not haste? These weren't really brownies? And I was like, bro,
i was hungry. And then when I came out of it,
of course I'm with.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
My buddy and I'm like, We've got to go to
Taco Bell. He's like, I'm not going. It's always Taco Bell.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
So if you're in southern California, it's always jacket.
Speaker 7 (39:18):
So you weren't full from the brownies. No, this is
like three dude. It took a minute for all that
to wear off. I'll just tell you that.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, but you know how you pop up.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
And you're like, hey, I am starving, and since you
wouldn't go to Taco Bell, because anyone wait in that line.
I went to seven to eleven to get nachos toakeedos,
and I took a spoon.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
The guy is like, I was like, where are your nachos? Desperate?
He goes, they're right there, But I just put the
cheese in and I don't care. He goes, well, you're
gonna need a spoon, so it gives me a spoon.
I took a glove of the cheese and threw it
down on the chips. It shattered them all and I
went home and nuked him up and had my nachos.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Anyway, not bad, not bad. All ends well, it ends
with nachos. You guys want to U? Do you guys
want to bet the Hall of Fame game tonight?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Let's talk. How do you do this? You know you did?
Sure they're gonna play? Yeah? We sure the field's playable.
How many games have they?
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Like not?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
They've gotten out there? A guy gets curtain like we're done.
It's over all right.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I got some notes for you.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Oh you think they're playing this?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Totals thirty three and a half on the game thirty
three and a half. Historically, the wisdom has said take
the under. Yes, last three have gone over the total,
including last year's game, which was twenty one to seventeen
when it was stopped after three quarters because of whether
but it was already over the total. So look at
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that total. Last three have gone over if you're looking
for recent trends. Another good thing. There's a couple of
items to look at when it comes to betting preseason football.
First off, coaches will tell you who's gonna play in
a preseason game, so pay close attention to that. Jim
Harbaugh ten and six against the spread career preseason, Dan
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Campbell three six and one ats preseason. Lions are point
and a half favorites tonight. Love Jim Harbaugh and the
Chargers and the points tonight. In addition to that, the
Chargers will go with a combination Taylor Heineke, Trey Lance,
dj Ujungalaile who I felt like that guy was in
(41:26):
college for nineteen years.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Sure was.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
And then Detroit's got Hendon Hooker and Kyle Allen. Obviously
justin Herbert Jared Goff not gonna see the field tonight.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Kyle Allen with the very small hands.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Trey Lan.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Got something he's got approve again, I'm liking the Chargers
and the point and a half tonight, going off the
history and on recent history, leaned the over all.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Right, as a coach, did you lover hate these?
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Remember when Nate and I our first year, first year together,
the extra game?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
You know the Broncos had this.
Speaker 7 (42:01):
Yeah, when it was still a four game pre season,
they had the five. We started July fifteenth or so.
It was the longest camp of my life. Yeah, first off,
we were watching Joe Flacco and who else was it?
Because Brandon Allen ended up playing, but he wasn't on
the team right away.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Remember Brandon Allen was whooping on Brandon. He's the one
with the small hands. Well he's got you small hands.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
He had the hand stretcher guy. Yeah, one he was
a hand stretcher and he got his he got his
traverse or what was it?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
It turned out yep.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
But do you like it or do you hate it?
Do you love the extra time? Because I couldn't tell.
I felt like Fangio was all fired up about this.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Well, remember that was wasn't that?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Also?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Was that the same game that he had the stones.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
You're right?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Was it a Hall of Fame game?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:49):
And then Philip Lindsay got hurt because of the chiropractor.
Remember that he was a chiropractor.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Oh god, the early Vic Fangio Joe coached his first
game with kidney stones.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Do you know that I did not? He got this guy? No,
he just sat there. We're all like, is he gonna
run to the bathroom?
Speaker 5 (43:03):
Like?
Speaker 4 (43:03):
That was frankly the most interesting thing about the damn
game he dealt And he just stood there and his teeth.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Did we all know that he was diagnosed? And he
just told the.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
World he was late to get to the game because
he had been at the hospital and I don't think
he had passed it yet.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
And final it was just like, let me the hell.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
That's Vic Fangio spending way too much time in his
career with both Jim and John Harbaugh. I'm gonna coach football,
That's what I do, even if I have to pass
the stone right here on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Be the footballiest coach he can be.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
And that's also why Hammer hammered the spread with Jim Harbaugh.
He can't help himself, man. He wants to win and
he wants to win pretty single thing he does.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Wants to run the ball Tonight Your Hall of Fame class,
By the way, get interview ready for tonight, Eric Allen,
Jared Allen, Antonio Gates, Sterling Sharp, is your your Hall
of Fame class?
Speaker 2 (43:52):
This year?
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Sterling and his brothers had an interesting week.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
They may not be interviewing Shannon tonight. I'm just gonna
take a take a wild guess on that is it.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
On the network to just let him go HBC to
NBC my right and say that that sounds right? Because
I heard that Carrie Underwood is going to perform live
for the thirteenth consecutive.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Years, waiting all day for the Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yes hell, yes, stems.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Her stems are going to be glossed up like a
dunkin donut, fresh and ready for Andy Lindall to consume.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Betting tips for Tonight's Hall of Fame game. Only we
can get that degenerate today here on Altitude Sports Radio
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I legitimately would not have been mad if they moved
literally anybody on the team. But but, but, yeah, no,
they got rid of Jake Bird, even with as terrible
as he's been in the last month. By the way
words bullpen and baseball the last month have the Rockies
been you know the team that was right above them,
the Yankees. That was why they went and got Jake Bird.
Here today saw how do we not.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Play the Yankees? Every time? It's it? How does it
not happen?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's again? We're doing our best this week.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Okay, I'm not calling out Alan Baka. He just got it.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Somebody get Andy a button.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Remember in the day the carts. You're probably too young.
I didn't you remember.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Whole life was putting on a rack of carts. Yes,
I was digital guy, I've.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Only known.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
You've only been digital two thousand and four. When I
took over as a producer, it was already I was
already living next gen life by that.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Have you not ever cut tape like action? To cut
the I was a.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Whiz on that I had. You'd mark it with the
grease pencil. You'd had a little piece of I never
did it walking.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Around with razor blades, like they didn't know if you were.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, here's what Here's what I became. Here's a fun story.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
I became proficient, incredibly proficient in all these skills. And
then one day I walked into studio and everything I
had trained for fifteen years was completely irrelevant. It was
a wonderful feeling to realize I knew absolutely nothing anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Five years will be there again. Yeh, Hey, have you
run film with the clicker?
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Then?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Coach? Are you a clicker guy?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Big clicker guy?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
What about the reel to reel?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Have you have you done that stuff?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
That's my dad, my dad. My dad tells me a lot.
The best is when you have a bunch of thirty
something and forty something football coaches and my dad, who
is he was a NEPO daddy because he was working
for his son, sure, very similar to Bill Callahan working
as the O line coach for Brian Callahan at the
Tennessee Titans. So my dad was a running back coach
(02:02):
and special teams coordinator. And when the thirty something and
forty something's talked about cutups, Hey, we're gonna watch some
cutups of inside zone.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Today, it was because it was cut.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
My dad said, you guys realized that I used to
cut the actual spicing of film and make them. And
I'd have to go in a dark room and find,
you know, this this catalog over here and splice it together.
And then Marv Goo, who's the O line coach at
USC at the time, screaming at me as he rips
his cigarette in the Offensive staff, is that.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
How you started as a as a film guy, as
a tape guy, as a tape jockey.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Basically me, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Started as the drawer. That's like the drawer. Yes, I'm
like Simon, I do draw.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So in really the West Coast offensive world, and Sean
Payton being one of these disciples descendants if you will,
of Bill Walsh and various various forms of drawing, the
quality control guy. This is what Sean McVay was for Gruden. Yeah,
he was his Simon, his drawing guy. So you draw
(03:04):
the ball plays and in the West Coast offense there's
about fifteen different ways you could run, about fifteen hundred
different concepts, and so all you do is sit in
front of a computer on visio. At the time, for me,
it was actually exos, which is a college football and
pro football tool that they're still using to watch film
and create playbook stuff that's intercut into the film. And
(03:27):
I'd sit there and draw on a computer all day,
every day until the wee hours of the night.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
All Right? Is this why you guys? Is this why
your dad was of the generation?
Speaker 7 (03:37):
I don't know if he did it where you worked
the ninety hour weeks and slept in the office and
knowing is this what you were actually up to?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
A right?
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Because when I hear the stories of like Shanahan's staff
putting in one twenty, I'm just.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Like, bro, what are you doing? There's okay? For first off,
you know you need to just call it good for
the weeks.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Just to be clear, the reason that the drawer drawer
is working oftentimes till three or four in the morning
is because of the ridiculous time wasting that's taking place
between the guys that are making twenty million dollars as
the head coach and the offensive coordinator it's making one
point nine million dollars. I'm sitting there like, hey, are
we gonna we're gonna talk about how we're gonna run
(04:15):
the inside zone this week? Or are we just gonna
that We're just gonna tell stories about the nineteen ninety
three Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
That was Sean Payton today, guys, it was a storyteller.
It was story time with Sean. It was was he.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
In a good mood?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
He said it generally. Yeah, he got into storytime. He
started talking about building out a staff. He told old
tales of Bill Kohlar coming to visit him in New
Orleans right after Katrina and Kohlar seeing a boat on
the side of the road and being like, I don't
think I should come work here right now. But he
was talking about the challenges of building out a staff.
(04:50):
And and yes, it was story time with Uncle Sean
today after practice, because it was that practice today, it
was yesterday was very physical and we made a big
deal out of it.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
The most physical practice that we have seen today.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Today's a guy got.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Her polar opposite today. Uh, today was no pads. Today
was takeing a easy.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Can we clear something up for all of our listeners?
You may I have heard multiple people on these airwaves
talk about today's attire of the day as shells.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Oh, I've already gotten this lecture from Spider or from
a from Tyler go ahead.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Tyler said the same thing I think today.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
No, he said spiders.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Okay, I heard him one good Today I was listening
to what are PhD what are spiders?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Spider pads?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
So the offensive linemen are wearing what looked like smaller
versions of shoulder pads.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Sure slighter, a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
The spiders are the traditional sense is what you used
to wear underneath your shoulder pads, as like almost like
a girdle in play. There he goes, here comes out.
Hell will not talk to us, but we will have everything.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Displayed for you to say.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Baka is a he's big and the visual es yes.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
And I just found out who my favorite rock of
all time is, Producer Extraordinaire Rock Baka Rock Baca. Yes,
that's a good name.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I think we might have given him a new nickname.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
What about broncos legend Rock Alexander? How about that one?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Marvin Harrison says hello and hello and hello.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
How about a rock me like I'm a big canoe.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
They sees the letters and somehow they've got to.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Be pronounced ironically, it was pronounced when when when Canute
came over from I think it was.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Dutch Rockney sounds, but he was.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
He was known as not as Newt as we call him,
but Canute.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Some buddies that go by Dezamin.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
So I can considered I considered today's attire as helmets
and spider just helmets. Is fine because if you if
you looked at the skill players, they weren't wearing anything
on the upper half for their body other than a jersey.
So it's helmets, h huh, shorts a jersey and then
(07:06):
spider pads are essentially optional gear for the old line
so they don't bust their clavical in there, you know,
as they're running gap schemes in the run game to
not so helmet and shoulder pads.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Are they real that shells that was yesterday? No? No, no,
that's full.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That's full pack jack baby, full pack jack is helmets,
shoulder pads and pants football pants.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That's full. Were they not in that yesterday? No, they
were full, They were full yesterday.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
The shells is shoulder pads, helmets, shorts, shoulder pads, helmets shorts.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, they were not in shoulder pads.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I don't know if we've.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Seen as I would traditionally call shells.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Okay, you said something interesting today.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Believe it or not. Wow, this is incredible.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
You you said something today that I found fascinating because
and and you're in I think in many ways with
with your with your high school team. Right now, you're
probably in a little bit at the same boat. You
made a comment as we were looking at practice, and
you go, I remember this practice from last year, which
is interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
So Sean Payton is he's in year three in Denver,
but this is your second camp. You've sat and you've
watched him, and you're able to do so. And I
think you do it from a very coaching lens. And
you were you sort of talking about sequencing of drills
and intensity and all those kind of things. Is that like,
(08:29):
are you a year to year I run the same
program to ramp up guy? How much are you adjusting
it year in and year own? Becauseean Payton's been an
NFL coach head coach now since two thousand and six,
Like he's got the program.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Dial correct now and he's won a Super Bowl. So
a lot of times when you have a season that's
particularly good, or even a game week that yields a
really good Saturday in college.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Football or Sunday in the National Football League.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
You go back and try to replicate that, Yeah, exact schedule,
how did you ramp up? So I'm guessing that what
we're seeing in terms of the schedule and today. Why
I said I've seen this practice before, is that a
year ago, I remember padded practice, padded practice, padded practice,
and then it was helmets, and I assumed it was
gonna be an hour and twenty minute practice.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It went long.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
It's like a really long chill practice with a lot
of talk through instruction, a lot of situational football. And
I said, I remember this practice and I remember at
the time I was looking for a Bonicks response day, and.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It's really one of those practice three can't spawn because.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
There's not much full speed live I know live is
a there's no there's no live tackle to the ground
in training camp, preseason football.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
But there wasn't many opportunity.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
There aren't. There weren't many opportunities a year ago, and
there weren't many opportunities today. Who am I now? Well,
I haven't been successful as a head coach. So the
reality is is that I am, I am, I am.
I AM going every single day to try to find
out the best possible plan for that day.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Sure, but also like you have to feel the vibes
of the thing, like like, okay, because of the physicality
of yesterday. And Sean knows he wants to ramp up
to a to a situational scrimmage on Saturday. Is what
he talked about after practice today, so he knows. Okay,
it's Thursday. We went hard yesterday. This was always gonna
(10:24):
be a back off day and make it a like
you said, situational. It's instructional, it's talking, but it was
not a day with a lot of popping or anything else.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
But okay, but I got a question for you, okay,
cause you talked about the responts.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So Tyler and I had this.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Interesting interaction yesterday. We told Nate about where we leave
the tent. We all are familiar with the tent, and
Sean was coming down, I'm assuming to join a NFL network,
and it looked like Ian had stepped away. Ian Rapaport
had step away, so they're gonna have to put off whatever.
He says a load to Colin or Colleen and then
whips one eighty and he comes over and he says
me and Tyler, now, first off, I thought he was
(11:01):
just going to skip past me because he knows I'm
just media slow. But he actually shook my hand, said
alone and was very pleasant.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
How didn't make you feel very weird? I'm like, wow,
I just I really was expecting to be ignored you
guy today, not necessarily. How was the hand shape? It
was slish.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
No, he wasn't you know what. He wasn't trying to
prove anything. He was there, he was there.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
He didn't drop the easy on the easy guy guy. No, No,
and he didn't. He didn't give me.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
He didn't give me the businessman's uh you know, the
old the old bish of throwing the towel down at
the market.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Anyway, here's my question. Uh So Tyler and Coach talked
for a while.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
They've told the stories of that, but Tyler said, you know,
he's relatively happy with things. He doesn't seem stressed. So
my question is when does competitive Sean come out?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Because look.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Like I feel like you're unlocking for me a reason
why maybe I've expected crank e ars Sean at the
podium because the offense has not had its day yet.
Now we all know the defense they're going against, but
at some point you're a play caller, doesn't complay.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
He's the play call don't do the color guy come
out at some point. I don't do.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Well right now in my current life when when the
d beats the Broncks off me in one practice, let
alone three or four. Now, the only thing I did
have the converse I had the thought about Saturday was
a pretty good offensive practice from what I heard.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And that's the.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Day that Sean Payton called out all these stupid little
internet shows. He was salty Sean on Saturday. Sometimes as
a head coach, as a play caller, you're actually a
bigger d bag or jerk or whatever you want to
call it. When you have success on your side of
the ball. Interesting less coaching to do because it's almost
too obvious that you're going to go in front of
(12:47):
a podium after the entire group watched the practice, saw
your side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Look like crap, Oh you want to make a point? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
So it's almost like the the it's like you you
get into this opposite world of our offense was so
good today.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Therefore I'm going to be a total jerk to you.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Well, isn't There also has to be because Sean his
he has vocalized it and said it out loud. But
also I think he knows anything special this team is
going to do is because of its defense. He and
and that's where he spent his money this offseason. Is
he went and splurted on the defense. He's about to
go and dump a bunch more money on Zach Allen.
(13:21):
And we're gonna see what's gonna happen with Nick Bonito.
But like his defense, he's talked about that being bo
Nicks's best friend. Sean is of the belief I will
win this Anything special this team does, like win playoff games,
is going to be because our defense is awesome.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Where all the investment is. Yeah, it's where you added
strength to strength.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yep. The additions of telling.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Whufonga and Drake Greenlaw went healthy made this defense elite
to me.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
By the way green Law with the quad thing today, world,
No that we're now here in quad.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
The same it was the same as last time.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Is that what bugged him over the summer, right is
that it I was wondering described how.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
He was in Chase and then he pulled up.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Sean today at the podium. If I'm not mistaken, did
say that it was not the same must.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Not as what was holding him back this summer.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, so the the the tweet from earlier in the
day from Luca Evans.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, but let's see, I.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Want to give him a shout out. He's the young
guy that's been challenged by Sean a couple of times.
He's not back down at all.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Do you know who he is? I know he was
at USC.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Do you remember you guys, remember very salty Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Luca was the reason.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Luca was the guy that was banned from covering USC
football from the Orange.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Which love that. Oh I didn't.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I never put that together.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I put it. I put it together day one.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I was so excited to go, you're the guy that
Lincoln Riley Welcome to the jungle, baby.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You know what I gotta tell you.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
I think I think Luca's earned a couple of stripes
with Sean. I think it's not all the way there.
Sean still gets him a little bit for being a
young guy. But but uh, Sean even has had a
different tone towards him well from Mini Camp.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Okay, guys, I've got yet another update. As I scanned
through his timeline right now, he got smifed, Oh, tweet's
not there, so did I Yeah, you know, I got
says he's got the cut forward. We've got Sean Payne's explanation.
Should should but but Luke, but Luca Evans. He he
(15:29):
did tweet out and I believe he may have talked
to the agent. He tweeted out the injury update earlier
today in some detail, saying it was a quad thing.
Here was Shawn's update to it today.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
No, I think he's fine.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
We in the one on one period, you know, he
felt it got tight different area and uh so we'll
no more. We'll go ahead and have you know, all
the the procractionary work done.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But I think he'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Tightness in different area, got that?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, uh huh uh huh.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Sometimes you're looking for tightness in the area. Other times
you're not. Pause what listen, O listen? Hey who was
talking six to twelve a little too much early on
in his show?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
One this one? Yet? So according to now we're now
we're all scanning Twitter.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Well, according to multiple people that we were at the
podium today, he motioned to the back of his leg. Okay,
Shawn did when he said different area, different area and
he kinda he kind of slapped the hambone if you will. Okay,
the old the hamhock, the old, the one they throw,
the one they throw in the car.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Too tightness in a handbun. Remember in Zelda, you get
one of those you're eating? Well, got all your hearts back?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Hey, I got a uh, I gotta I got a
Broncos take. I'm gonna I'm gonna fire at you guys
when we come back, and you can scream back at
me if you want. But I I got something that
I feel pretty strongly about on this on this Denver
Bronco team, and it has to do with a key
AFC West Division rival. I will tell you what that
(17:05):
is when we return Thursday afternoon. K and L with
the Sandman on Altitude Sports Radio ninety two to five
Training camp coverage on Altitude Sports Radio powered by Ramos Law,
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it is, fellas the Denver Broncos are going to go
to a zero against the Kansas City Chiefs this year. Wow,
(17:28):
bold take two and oh that's two victories, zero losses.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
What now Here's I want? I'm not shocked about the
home one.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What are you laughing about?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
I have an unbelievable rebuttal question to that.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Okay, I'm just saying it's the one in Kansas City
that's always tough, always has been tough.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Christmas Day, Yeah, late in the season.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
There's something about December and Arrowhead kind of Uh, Mike
Shanahan could never master that.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
People forget what amazing feat it was for the Broncos
get past that right in their first Super Bowl trip,
and they also did.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Win a December game in Arrowhead. But that's that's where
I start. The Broncos will go to and Oh against
the Chiefs this year specifically because when I when I
match up these two teams against one another, the Broncos
strengths I think pierced directly through the armor of the
(18:25):
Chiefs weaknesses.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Played out in real time in the in the one
real matchup that you had against the Chiefs that Arrowhead Yeah,
where you won the football game one, except for you
couldn't protect on a field goal.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, you couldn't kick the game winning field goal, and
that killed you. But they should have been to and
Oh against those guys last year. I've been following a
little bit of the news that's been coming out of
Chiefs camp. It's not real good and it's not just
Mahomes love handles we're talking about here.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Oh wow, okay, wow.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So body shaming is becoming a big part of the
twenty twenty five football season.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
It really is your worry about that?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
And uh, Kansas City's own uh what beat what radio?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
He's a radio podcast, podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Radio having a dad bod said you wouldn't fit in
at the pool. I say that part of jest.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You go stand next to his coach. Everybody feel better.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Man, Now we're body shaming coaches. We're doing it to everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
So Andy Reid looks like the kool aid. Man.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I'm looking at at the Chiefs right now, okay, and
I'm looking across their offensive line. So right guard Trey Smith,
one of the highest paid guards in football.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Arguably the best guard in football. So probably outside of Quentin.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Nelson, Trede Humphrey and center, your set. Fine, You good
to go.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
The three other positions on your team are either in
flux or borderline fluxy. And I say it in this way.
You've got a rookie left tackle in Josh Simmons out
of Ohio State, you've gotten coming off a big injury
last year, first rounder thirty two.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay, so you don't count that when we when do we?
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Because leg he always says there's usually eighteen to twenty
actual first round grades. Yeah, is that when the first
round technically ins Now.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
There's those that will make the argument that Simmons fell
because of his injury, sure and could have been higher
graded than that, still rookie left test.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Also, Simmons was in that same draft class with these
six quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Am I right?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
And seeing that Andros and Brian Thomas Junior and Marvin Harritt,
I mean this is that was a.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
That's a first round, full first round king.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Nonetheless, you're picked where you're picked, Sue Mattea nicely b
Yu get b Yu drafted to play tackle, was so
good at it that he's getting worked in at guard
right now at left guard?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Is that a step back?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I believe so.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And you've got Juwan Taylor, who you don't trust in,
who false starts on every single play, and so you
paid Jalen Moore and brought him in. But Moore is
also getting work over at guard, and right now he
basically looks like a fifteen million dollar swing tackle. This
is a Chiefs offensive line that is set in very
(21:14):
good at two spots. But two spots does not an
offensive line, make no?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
And by the way, why why did they get rid
of Toney Tonny whatever?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Money? Yeah? I think it came down to dough.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
They're gonna miss that right, Yes, oh, yes, he's gonna
show up. You don't lose good players like Fine.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Tray Smith and Tony were the stalwarts.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, Hollywood Brown has already been carted off in practice.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Because of an ankle.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Here we go again.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Rashie Rice has a looming suspension. You've got injuries all
over the place on an already suspect receiving corps.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Oh, by the way, Travis Travis kelce is you know.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
What he's doing right now?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
He's already gonna foot out the door.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Do you want to know what Travis Kelcey's problem is.
He's got honey painted all over him and bears are
eating him. He's got a happy Gilmore too.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Have you seen it?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I fell asleep twenty minutes in Travis kelce I'll be honest,
I tried.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Travis Kelcey's body.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah, looks like mine, And it was awesome, because I
haven't been a very consistent manscaper recently, and I got
a nice solid chess curtain going on chess drapes around click.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
I don't need to hear about seventies. Mike Sandford, you
escape the es I have before as as of late?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Did it grow back thicker and fuller like on Seinfeld?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It's come back tenfold. Brother.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
So my wife and I were watching Happy Gilmore too. Yeah,
and she looks at me when Travis Kelcey comes on
the screen.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
He goes, he looks just like you, and she laugh
took it as a compliment.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I'm it's great, but that's also not good for Travis.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Football ready to play tight end in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
With all due respect, they ran also forty three basically
it's Travis and three based offense.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Last year they sucked. Yeah, they won twelve one score
games a year ago on their way to fifteen victories. Okay,
you're not going to win twelve one score games again.
It just will not happen for you.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Okay, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I legitimately think this offense is suspect at best, even
with the best quarterback in the world and the Denver
front in addition to a secondary that I don't think
has to cover anything special. Right now, I think the
Broncos are poised to eat.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
This year against the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Outside of the quarterback position in Kansas City, which offensive
position group would be even considered in the better half
of the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I would say tight end only because of Kelsey, And
I'm probably saying that because a reputation.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
What about Pacheco in the running back group?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
His run style though, Man it is okay.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
But see, here's my problem. I've told you this before.
It just feels like we're all tired of the greatness.
We're all bored with it. So we're gonna come up
reasons why they're not great anymore, but not worry about.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
They really weren't great last year.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I again, I know, I'm talking about a fifteen win team,
but that offense was but.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
It was, but it wasn't good.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
And frankly that they won fifteen games of last year, Guys,
they lost the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
We're just gonna push that off to the side.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
It was whatever deal with the devil they had last
season to keep squeezing these games out, including one against
Denver at Arrowhead. I you're right, Andy, Like we we're
talking about a team that has been to the super
Bowl three years in a row, but also the last
seven of the last seven. There's no denying it. But
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there were there were cracks in the armor that were
evident a year ago, and now I'm looking at it
and I'm going, I don't know how you got any better.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
I don't disagree. But here's the thing. Here's here's my
warning for the Chiefs. Okay, before we all just kicked
the fresh dirt on them.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
They don't need to be the.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Division winner to find their way to the super Bowl.
They don't proven that they don't. They went through Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I already picked Denver to win the AFC West, and again.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Did they not be Buffalo and Baltimore two years ago?
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I am in They're so enamored with this Bronco defense
that I'm watching day in and day out. And by
the way, that Bronco offensive line they're actually good.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
They're good.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
They're a hell of a lot better than Kansas City's
and they're having a rough time with that Denver front seven.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I got no problem with that, but in that group is.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So damn good going up against again a Chiefs offense
that I know they have Mahomes. Okay, I'm not denying
the best quarterback in the world, but I think that
that thing is being held together by Scotch tape right now,
and I think this is the year for the Broncos
to finally pounce and get those guys twice.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I want to pose a quick question to both of you, fellas,
fine fellas and the textures as well. Shot Moss the
text line three zero three five four nine two five.
If you were to say of your AFC West divisional
rivals in order from one to three, where you would
say you are most likely to sweep between the Chiefs,
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the Raiders, and the Chargers, how would you rank one
through three in terms of getting two victories over said team?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Raiders?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Chiefs Charger same. I was gonna give the exact same,
and only.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Because the Chargers got you last time last year, but
both times last year, and remember you were up pretty
good on the second.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Game, are you Chargers? Yeah? Okay, the one year Christmas,
what did they had the lead? Then the weird stuff
at the half.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
The run, the ball ric estimate King rolling, and then
Otter cast never touched the football.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
It felt like we were bored with greatness.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Harball get one, He'll get one. Yeah, I don't. I
don't see them sweeping the Chargers this year. I think
Kansas City's good. The Chargers are good.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
I think with the Raiders, Raiders will be better. They
will be tough for there will be the competent football game.
I still think the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
If the Raiders were in any other division, I'd be
over here saying that's that's a wild card dark horse
right there, like, look out for that team if they
were in any other division.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
They're just in a brutal, freaking division.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Though, why do you feel any different? Would you put
the Chiefs out of the Raiders. I don't have the
greatest feeling.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
I love the skill I love the skill position players
of the Raiders right now. But again, gino, here, here's
why you're gonna make it competitive?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Not good enough to beat the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I don't have the greatest feeling of the Denver Broncos
sweeping either the Chargers or the Raiders whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
He really, here's why.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Is this a Pete Carroll base to take it?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Is?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh Yeah. Both share a similar
identity of how to win football games, which is what
run the football, play really good.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Defense, beat you up, be patient.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
How did that match up a year ago in what
I would say wasn't an ultimately talented football team, especially
in the offensive skill player positions for the For the
Los Angeles Chargers, you lost both games. Yeah, because Sean Payton,
for whatever reason, does not want to run the football
when he's got an elite defense and win with that.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
SUNI and what did Harbaugh do this offseason when he said, Okay,
I liked my run game last year, it can be
even better than that. He upgraded across the board at
that position. He was out and got Najen. He drafted
Omari and Hampton. He's got two really good backs behind
a pretty solid offensive line should they stay healthy. But
it's the Chargers offensive line.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Can we all agree the upgrade of the bat the
running back room for the Broncos too, though they did.
I feel like running back room is better than a
year got a doubt, and I do think hopefully that convinced.
I don't think Sewan's ever gonna totally go away from
what he is, which is a passing ballgame coach.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
He likes that.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
But I do think he'll have more confident in the run.
He'll be more confident in the run options this year
than he was a year. Should be, especially when you
look at the second game. Now, you're right, Rodrick Estaman
looked like he was starting to feel a little something
that game, and he just quit giving him the rock.
Nobody really knows why. And I love I hate being
so down on Javonte Williams, but what else you gonna do.
The guy could have been really good back, really could
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and then that knee injury. That knee injury's just done
what we've seen so many times. Unfortunately, it just stole
his thunder from Dallasallas. Oh my god, they're acting like
he's gonna rejuvenate their run game. I'm like, guys, did
did he go to Europe and get something done to
his knee? I don't know about Maybe he should maybe
get the Adrian Peterson try. It is too bad because
he was a very fun running back his first two years.
(29:50):
But like you see so often, I mean, they blew
his knee up. I said to Scotty on our podcast
last night. If we all really remember, Leggy was telling us.
He probably should have been playing when he was playing
when he came back from that ne injury.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
But he's a running back.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
He has no choice but to make himself a cripple
to try to extend his NFL career.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Another strange conversation to have coming off the backs of that, too,
to no discussion about the Broncos being able to beat
the Chiefs twice in a season they will. What would
be the power ranking for you, two fellas, for teams
that you're most fearful of sweeping the Denver Broncos in
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Well, Chargers would be number one.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, that would just going to really again, it's it's
it's just one hundred percent matchup based. I don't think
that I don't think the Chargers are vastly better than Denver,
but that run game.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Okay, let me ask you this.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
This is a tough question to answer because and I
love the insight you guys have provided today from Shawn's
answers to what you've seen, we shouldn't be expecting to
see a lot out of the offense yet, because clearly
this is the building phase. As you said, Glad, your coaches,
I caught that But that said, are we positive we've
seen anything?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
And I asked this, this is not a Bonis.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Question because of my take last year, people are going
to assume it is. It's not a Bonix question. I
think it's his team, and I think he's a better
quarterback than he was a year ago. I'm excited to
watch what year two brings. But I've been asking all offseason,
get the guy, someone who can break a tackle and
make more of a play than you drew it up for.
And I'm not sure so sure they have that still.
I think Marvin Mims could be that guy if he
called the right plays for him. He doesn't seem to
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want to call those plays for him. So with that
being the case, started to with that being the case,
are we sure they have enough offensively to get past
the Bills or a Ravens.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Here's the fun part of what.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
We have a hard time getting to that place yet?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
All right? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Yeah, because I think it could be slug now. The
Broncos defense needs to play better than it did at
least the second half of that playoff game against the Bills.
There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
The Ravens last year.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
Yeah, and you definitely can't go doing that. But again,
we're hyper focused on the division. I do feel like
Sean would for whatever reason. Shawn has shown he knows
the Chiefs. He's got his formula for the Chiefs. Now
they've got to be able to pick out the teams
that may get in the way. Say you get past
that first round and the Bills and Ravens are chief
among them.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
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Speaker 2 (32:37):
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Who's he playing for? H He's a Charger? Who else
is a Charger?
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Speaker 2 (32:52):
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Speaker 7 (33:16):
By the way, how much fun would it be? And
I guess I'm the only guy that can volunteer with you,
you two lightweights. Should I try to outdo MOS's inbreak
donut hole eating just to I'm not sure I could,
is the thing? How big were those donut holes he
housed in like two minutes?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I think they were a regular donut of.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
The standard is standard munchkins from Dunkin Donuts.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I Duncan wants to swing some by, I'll give it
a go. Listen counted ten.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
What I thought was the most entertaining part of that
video is like he was he was popping about like
two three at a time, and then and then he
would go away. He'd go to the laptop he'd look
at the phone or whatever, but then it would like
dawn on him, like still there, those are damn good
And then he'd go back and then it was like
another series.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
The last one.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
He went full popcorn scoop with his hand and just
went point count eleven. I think the fourteenth and final
Munchkin that he consumed whole. I actually fed him.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
When I arrived. I took it right out of the
box and I plopped it right in his mouth.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
I had no idea at that time was thirteen up
into that?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
How many did he have had? Fourteen in one sitting
in that break? Yeah, fat guy, Like, don't worry about that. Yeah,
the one happened to get to fifteen.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Wait, the one that you fed him? Was that one
on the video?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
It was not It was not video.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
See see now, I think if you get that on video,
then it's like, Okay, we got crossover appeal with only fans.
Like then it becomes a thing. That's now what you are?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
You a donat munchkin feeding fetish. We started getting into
the two type of people in the world bred.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
These broadcaster feeder genre. We'd be doing well for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I uh, should I do it? Should we go.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
I believe you can do it, Andy, I have so
much faith.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I completely believe in you.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
See. Here's the thing is Walmart, the big company there
you go, has these.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
All of us, they do, but they they have these
chocolate donut holes with sprinkles on them that I was
pulling a motion where I would literally leave the room,
and the allure of the chocolate and the sugar still
on my lips would bring me back from another part
of the house to go like for five more and then.
But I kept using restraint of you know, the angry
(35:38):
coach's voice from my high school telling me, you fat slob.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You will not go back in there. You will not
consume anymore. You will stay outside of use some yard work.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I'm guessing if I kicked the.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
Coach out of the scenario, I I might fifteen.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
You could do it easily, so much many it's not
during the process, you know what.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
My favorite part, it's when you're done.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
My favorite part of that of that montage was when
Mose pulls the typical guilt ridden over conception and he
gets rid of the box temporarily and.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Then reading.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
It's fantastic. How many times have you done that?
Speaker 1 (36:19):
The old Louis c k bit pre cancelation was was
about being at the party and like returning to the
tray of cookies, but making sure there was a different
crowd of people in the kitchen around it and acting
as though you've rediscovered the oh.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Day of cookies.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yes, you just got here even though you knew exactly
what you were doing.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Take the long walk around the house.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Louis c k was canceled? Was he he was during
twenty in the in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Uh, it was right around there.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Yeah, has he been uncanceled?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
He's I think he's like selling out Madison Square Gardens. Yeah,
he's back to He was a he was a take
it out guy.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Do you want my little party story? It out? He
took it out? Yeah, it was. It was not with consent. Yeah,
took it heat, Okay, took took it out. It out.
I one time was at a party. How's this good?
At one to where? Oh? Just the way you figured?
Speaker 4 (37:17):
It was a fourth July party and I was really hungry.
What good I'm but I'm just not a personal telling
about taking it out? Whose house it was?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
This was also your birthday?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
It was and I was hungry. Uh and so, and
you know it's your birthday.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
So people, I was twenty two and was expected or
twenty one expected to have a few.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So I need some to eat, So have a feud
in the night.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
Earlier than I prefer get a base. So anyway, I
asked my buddy, I'm like, look, man, where's the kitchen.
I need some to eat. There's got to be some
in there, right This party has food, doesn't it. So
he tells me where the kitchen is and I go
in there and all I see her brownies.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Oh yeah. I didn't know whose house it was. Were
they laced? They were?
Speaker 7 (37:56):
But I didn't know because again I wasn't I was
not educated today.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
And I'm like, man, these aren't really fluffy brownies. Hear you?
Speaker 3 (38:03):
You eat one and then you get the munchies and.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Then you just have the tray because I was starting.
And my buddy walks in and he goes, did you
find anything?
Speaker 7 (38:10):
I go, just brownies are a little not They taste
a little earthy, earthy, earthy.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
And he goes, wait a minute, you ate these brownies?
And I go, yeah, how about I.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Can find half a tray, half a trail.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Weird. Let's just say they were throwing fireworks at me.
By the end of that, I wasn't reacting. That's a
weird night. It looked like it looked like I was
on the step. I wanted to move, but none of
my limbs were responding. Uh huh. Yeah. He just laughed.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
He's like, you ate all these and he at that
time of consuming half a tin of brownies that were
ultimately very green, it was the party. Where were you
at in your own personal relationship with said product? There
was no relation you were you were No, That's why
I was like. My buddy was like, how did you
(38:59):
not haste? These weren't really brownies? And I was like, bro,
i was hungry. And then when I came out of it,
of course I'm with.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
My buddy and I'm like, We've got to go to
Taco Bell. He's like, I'm not going. It's always Taco Bell.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
So if you're in southern California, it's always jacket.
Speaker 7 (39:18):
So you weren't full from the brownies. No, this is
like three dude. It took a minute for all that
to wear off. I'll just tell you that.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, but you know how you pop up.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
And you're like, hey, I am starving, and since you
wouldn't go to Taco Bell, because anyone wait in that line.
I went to seven to eleven to get nachos toakeedos,
and I took a spoon.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
The guy is like, I was like, where are your nachos? Desperate?
He goes, they're right there, But I just put the
cheese in and I don't care. He goes, well, you're
gonna need a spoon, so it gives me a spoon.
I took a glove of the cheese and threw it
down on the chips. It shattered them all and I
went home and nuked him up and had my nachos.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Anyway, not bad, not bad. All ends well, it ends
with nachos. You guys want to U? Do you guys
want to bet the Hall of Fame game tonight?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Let's talk. How do you do this? You know you did?
Sure they're gonna play? Yeah? We sure the field's playable.
How many games have they?
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Like not?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
They've gotten out there? A guy gets curtain like we're done.
It's over all right.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I got some notes for you.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Oh you think they're playing this?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Totals thirty three and a half on the game thirty
three and a half. Historically, the wisdom has said take
the under. Yes, last three have gone over the total,
including last year's game, which was twenty one to seventeen
when it was stopped after three quarters because of whether
but it was already over the total. So look at
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that total. Last three have gone over if you're looking
for recent trends. Another good thing. There's a couple of
items to look at when it comes to betting preseason football.
First off, coaches will tell you who's gonna play in
a preseason game, so pay close attention to that. Jim
Harbaugh ten and six against the spread career preseason, Dan
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Campbell three six and one ats preseason. Lions are point
and a half favorites tonight. Love Jim Harbaugh and the
Chargers and the points tonight. In addition to that, the
Chargers will go with a combination Taylor Heineke, Trey Lance,
dj Ujungalaile who I felt like that guy was in
(41:26):
college for nineteen years.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Sure was.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
And then Detroit's got Hendon Hooker and Kyle Allen. Obviously
justin Herbert Jared Goff not gonna see the field tonight.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Kyle Allen with the very small hands.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Trey Lan.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Got something he's got approve again, I'm liking the Chargers
and the point and a half tonight, going off the
history and on recent history, leaned the over all.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Right, as a coach, did you lover hate these?
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Remember when Nate and I our first year, first year together,
the extra game?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
You know the Broncos had this.
Speaker 7 (42:01):
Yeah, when it was still a four game pre season,
they had the five. We started July fifteenth or so.
It was the longest camp of my life. Yeah, first off,
we were watching Joe Flacco and who else was it?
Because Brandon Allen ended up playing, but he wasn't on
the team right away.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Remember Brandon Allen was whooping on Brandon. He's the one
with the small hands. Well he's got you small hands.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
He had the hand stretcher guy. Yeah, one he was
a hand stretcher and he got his he got his
traverse or what was it?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
It turned out yep.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
But do you like it or do you hate it?
Do you love the extra time? Because I couldn't tell.
I felt like Fangio was all fired up about this.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Well, remember that was wasn't that?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Also?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Was that the same game that he had the stones.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
You're right?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Was it a Hall of Fame game?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:49):
And then Philip Lindsay got hurt because of the chiropractor.
Remember that he was a chiropractor.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Oh god, the early Vic Fangio Joe coached his first
game with kidney stones.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Do you know that I did not? He got this guy? No,
he just sat there. We're all like, is he gonna
run to the bathroom?
Speaker 5 (43:03):
Like?
Speaker 4 (43:03):
That was frankly the most interesting thing about the damn
game he dealt And he just stood there and his teeth.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Did we all know that he was diagnosed? And he
just told the.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
World he was late to get to the game because
he had been at the hospital and I don't think
he had passed it yet.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
And final it was just like, let me the hell.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
That's Vic Fangio spending way too much time in his
career with both Jim and John Harbaugh. I'm gonna coach football,
That's what I do, even if I have to pass
the stone right here on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Be the footballiest coach he can be.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
And that's also why Hammer hammered the spread with Jim Harbaugh.
He can't help himself, man. He wants to win and
he wants to win pretty single thing he does.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Wants to run the ball Tonight Your Hall of Fame class,
By the way, get interview ready for tonight, Eric Allen,
Jared Allen, Antonio Gates, Sterling Sharp, is your your Hall
of Fame class?
Speaker 2 (43:52):
This year?
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Sterling and his brothers had an interesting week.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
They may not be interviewing Shannon tonight. I'm just gonna
take a take a wild guess on that is it.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
On the network to just let him go HBC to
NBC my right and say that that sounds right? Because
I heard that Carrie Underwood is going to perform live
for the thirteenth consecutive.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Years, waiting all day for the Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yes hell, yes, stems.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Her stems are going to be glossed up like a
dunkin donut, fresh and ready for Andy Lindall to consume.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Betting tips for Tonight's Hall of Fame game. Only we
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