8/11/25 Hour 1 - Cross talk, Broncos first-team offense struggles, Nik Bonitto makes a statement

00:00 Cross talk.

19:30 Broncos first-team offense struggles.

39:20 Nik Bonitto makes a statement.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
You do you want my problem with it?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
All?

Speaker 4 (00:16):
Right?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
No, Well, technically it's not them. They're a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
I watched it. I watched yesterday morning. I guess yesterday
morning on YouTube they posted the night before. But I
had so many people on social media posts that they
were there and how much fun it was, and it
does look like a good time.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
This is where I'll probably get in trouble. I don't
think Dick Montford should.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
Be able to make money off that when you're not
pumping that same kind of money, Like again, you get
a benefit from one hundred thousand people at the stadium
over the weekend, when we barely have anything spent on payroll.

Speaker 6 (00:48):
That bothers me.

Speaker 7 (00:49):
You're upset that that Dick Montfort makes money. Yeah, you're
upset that baseball baseball.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's not going well. I'd like to I'd like the
baseball that it's been to play.

Speaker 7 (01:00):
Are you upset when people spend five hundred dollars to
spend a night at the Rally hotel. Yeah, are you
you got a problem with people having beers in.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
The Yeah, I'd like a better product in the park
before we go making money off concerts and everything else.

Speaker 7 (01:11):
But whatever, Okay, but hey.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, let's feldal kickers. So that's that's the hill you
want to die on.

Speaker 7 (01:18):
So i'd be what are you supposed to what's stick
man for supposed to?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Do?

Speaker 5 (01:21):
You just just think it sucks and all you're doing
is printing money. And we've got the worst baseball team
in history. We're on the way for one in history
and two other one hundred lost seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
That's funny on the damn team.

Speaker 7 (01:32):
I'm actually three hundred loss seasons. I'm fine if they
set the record.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:36):
I was like, sort of stretched out, are you ready
for the walk? I think they they have shown a
lack of interest in playing baseball. They've lost their spirit.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Let me ask you this, do you think maybe?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (01:45):
Are you still gonna do the walk? I will do
the walk if you want me to. But I'm not sitting.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Here, no, no, no, I'll do the walk.

Speaker 7 (01:51):
I will do the walk. I will there's no other things.
I definitely will do the work.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
We set up like a remember how we do parade coverage?
Should we do a bunch of like routes? The whole
lineup has to.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Be no, no problems calling the journey.

Speaker 7 (02:06):
I think got twelve wins? Can they win? Can this
team win twelve more games?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
How many they're gonna I'm gonna go worst of all time?

Speaker 7 (02:14):
They're thirty and eighty seven right now?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, there, Warren Shaffer is gonna.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
He is, he is.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
He is coaching and fighting for his baseball life right now.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
Okay, and I know you.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
You're a huge Warren Shaeffer guy. I got the Warren
Shaffer is much better than Bud Block.

Speaker 7 (02:28):
He is better than Bud Black. That's a low bar,
but he's better than Bud Black. But he ain't the guy.
He ain't the guy, and he's coaching him like he's
two point zero right now. He doesn't know what to do.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
A whole lot of high jumpers are better than Dick Flosbury.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
The first Dick Flowsbury reference I've gotten in quite some time, the.

Speaker 7 (02:47):
Good old Fosburry flop.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Although I did see last night I was scouting the enemy,
I was behind enemy lines, and I watched the Broncos
documentary he was just on my YouTube because I'm back
and watch Bonix press conference. That's some very interesting thoughts
about what bo was ultimately trying to say in his
press conference.

Speaker 7 (03:05):
What was he trying to say that Robert.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Sala broke he crossed the line and he ran pressures
that you don't run in.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
Pre season football.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Oh wow? All right?

Speaker 5 (03:15):
And therefore he was curious because did you catch I
caught this at the very end as we watched nine
News sign off, before we saw your lovely face, but
there was Kyle Shanahan, Advance, Joseph having a talk and
the smiles turned to Kyle doing something like this and
shaking his head and getting a very serious look on
his face. And Vance's expression changed.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Too, and I so, I I don't know.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
I don't know if the Broncos then went tit for tat,
but again it didn't look like a friendly Hey.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
How the family's been? As you guys faded a lot
to the studio. If you think about it, between the
forty nine Ers franchise and the Broncos franchise, there's there's
a lot. There's a lot of layers, Am I right?
Like Robert Sala who's his bff? Who's this guy?

Speaker 7 (03:57):
Date Hackett?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Amen?

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Right? Is he still?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
They all due?

Speaker 6 (04:03):
They go?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
They go so far back there there they've brote out
forever and it's truly it's one of we all have
blind spots, right, I think that one of Robert saw
his big blind spots has been Nathaniel Hackett.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
He's now a defensive coach.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah for the Packers.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
With your guy.

Speaker 7 (04:17):
Yeah, thank god he's not touching your your your.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Stay away, stay away from Joe j love Man. Anyway,
So back to why I saw Scotty. I went behind
enemy lines. I wanted to find out what makes the
greatest coach in the history of high school football tick?
And I watched the Dave Logan documentary on the Broncos.
Scotty Man, I didn't know. I didn't know all the history.

Speaker 6 (04:40):
Yes, I had no clue. I mean, I'm a moron, obviously.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I just kind of came into town and act like I'm,
you know, some significant or something, but didn't realize like
all of the different broadcasts that you guys did twelve years,
you guys did the show together, and then you guys
did and you were the color guy for the Broncos
as a basketball guy.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yeah, and then Dave Logan becomes Scott.

Speaker 7 (04:59):
Se longest tenured color analyst. I think Rick's ricks creeping.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Up on Well, but you was, uh Larry Larry.

Speaker 7 (05:11):
Arry Arry Zimmer.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yeah, but he did it with what's his name for
a bunch of years too.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Larry was color Larry combined probably has.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Yeah, and Dave was colored with Larry for a lot
of years.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
The whole thing was fascinating because here you have Dave Logan,
NFL superstar, drafted in all three major sports, which I
knew that, and that's still just mind blowing to me
that somebody was able to be that good in all three.
You know the other guy that did that, who was it?

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Dave Win? Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, but you got you got Scott Hastings that had
you done had you done basketball? Color?

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yea. I was doing basketball at the same time.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
With the Nuggets, just the home games. Okay, Okay, I
don't think that made I don't know if that made
the doc or not, but it was just cool.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Hey, Altitude TV, if you need some summertime stuff, You've
got the interesting career. Do you realize you're sitting across
from a man who called both the Broncos and Nuggets
first championships.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
He called both of them freaking awesome. So I mean,
I I think I've always paid a level of respect
and reverence to you, Scottie, but I need to pay more.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
So pretty awesome, I will say that's I was fortunate.
And I'm trying to think. Now. There was a guy,
and I think he's still working. He became playboy, play guy,
black guy, but he was a football player. And he
told Don Martin, he said, he said, after I watched
Scottie do color and actually handled pretty good, I said,

(06:52):
because basketball guy doing football coach. First thing, he said,
He goes, why can't a player be a playboy play guy?
He said, I sent my career up that I wanted
to go for play with play and not just be
the stereotype, you know, analyst instead. Right. So I can't
remember the guy's name, but he's pretty famous.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
Pat summer All. Did it.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Know he was a big time player, He was a kicker.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
Had no idea Pat some.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Roll obviously Dave Logan that summer All is a putter
and a kicker at Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yes, we got to know Pat pretty good.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Uh, And then became play with play forever, right, he
was playing with play guy forever.

Speaker 8 (07:30):
I mean him and Madden. That was that they were
the the voices of the NFL. Who is that crew?

Speaker 6 (07:35):
Now? Who is the when you think of the top cruise.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
For me, it's bucking Aman.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
Yeah, you think that's the top one right now?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Because they was comfortable with each other, Romo has gotten
so unhinged as of late.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
The low key secret is he's not allowed to do
some things he was doing at the beginning. They were
changed some of the some of the information he's been fed.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
How about I put it that way. I thought it
was more had something more to do.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
With no No, I believe NFL offensive coordinators got a
little tired of him calling the plays on what he
was hearing.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I thought it with the fact is his is his
coffee bugs sweating or is it steaming? All right? Because
I heard when it was when it was sweating. There
was cold beverages in that while he was on the
air well and nance, so I have heard, you know,
and those cold beverages were not of the the diet
right variety.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
I wonder if I would be better or worse if
I did more of that While I was broadcast exactly.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Having having having worked with you once.

Speaker 8 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, you think, Hey, Dandy, Dandy don on that.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Did we did two games together? Two was the two
games we did.

Speaker 8 (08:47):
I know it was at least one. We did the
Portland game where we were sitting courtsie. Yes, we we
did that. I think that was the only game we
did to get you were and and I I think
I've even told Andy this before, and I've you know, however,
many hundreds of basketball games I've called on radio over

(09:08):
the years, and I'm talking about radio specifically, because that
was the game that you and I did together, was
a radio game, and you were the like it was.
It was like slipping on the most comfortable T shirt.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
Working with you.

Speaker 8 (09:21):
You just you were, You were in at all the
right spots, you were out it was. It was so great,
it was conversational. I loved it.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Well appreciate it. I thought he did a good job.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
My sincerius apologies, Cracker that you had to work with
me multiple times.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
You, on the other hand, felt like a sweater.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
It was a sweater that just makes you itch around,
makes you break out, and it was young.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Of those Irish sweater. It feels like.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
You take it off, take off your material.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
You see you agree with this? Uh huh young guys,
young guys or young to the broadcast. Yeah, especially analysts
because you're a playbook play guy, especially anlics guys. It
takes you while to learn that you don't have to
comment on every play. Sure, now football is a little
different because you got the thirty five seconds intween stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Even then it feels awkward sometimes, you know, when that's
all that happened every basket.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Specially on radio, you don't need to comment.

Speaker 8 (10:21):
Well, the other the other thing about it, too, is
like the pace of play in basketball is so friggin
fast right now. It is by the time you're done
describing the bucket that was just scored, like they're already
in their offense, like the ball is already popping. So like,
I find that as a as a colored guy on
radio right now, the job is harder than it's ever

(10:43):
been because you've got to pick your spots so quickly,
and it's like, and this is what you're so good at.
You want to say something worthwhile, right You don't just
want to say something lame like us, oh hell of
a move by Jamal Murray.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Good move.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
Thank you. We appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
It's another thing you do, especially on radio, but even
on TV. You you you gotta watch the game, that's why.
And listen. I go over the stats and look at him.
Some of them I can put the memory and I
can use them. What's on. There's two or three that
I might throw down and write down that I'll use
in the game. But you watch the game. Yeah, So
bask goes in hits, a guy's foot goes out in

(11:20):
the first row. Guess what I've just goner ten seconds.
I just I've just gotten five or six seconds. I
can now talk football, same thing you're doing. Bo. They're
calling him for a measurement. Now I can expand a
little bit.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
Yet now you'll have plenty of time to expand. Well,
I hate the new measurement. We're gonna talk about that later.
You know what, other games?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
What do you hate basketball?

Speaker 4 (11:41):
It took too long?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Listen, man. First off, First off, college football.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
College football is getting that way, and Mike sanforan offense
for both Poor coach Barnett just wants a common or two.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
But you're already back.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
To the line.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
You're ready to go again. They're not really huddling up.
The huddle up is where the color guy got his
time in the past.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Right, they're right back to the line, a couple of
little you look over at the bikini clad woman and
SpongeBob on the sideline, and off we go.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
We got we got organic looking Pam Anderson that no
longer wears makeup on a on a on a seventeen
foot board on the sideline.

Speaker 8 (12:16):
What do you have on the board, said at Valor
this year? By the way, can you give us any previous.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Impossible Paul I got, I've got Mary Magdalene.

Speaker 8 (12:25):
Yeah, I was gonna say, how do you tell Paul
apart from Peter and the other.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I have some of the minor prophets as well.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Okay, Steven out there, that guy even martyr Baby.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Let's go all right, you want to know what I
got a problem with with the with the stupid virtual thing? Yeah, right,
Why you're puffing your chest at me, I'm just trying
to have a conversation.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Because you know where's why, Because I promise you in
this room, I promise you, in this building, probably on
this city block, nobody watched as much preseason football as
this guy right here.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Today.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
Yeah, it's just my ad this time of year habit
because I don't want to think. I don't like to
think whatever I don't have to, and preseason football provides
that is that not.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
But here's the problem. This is just like the dumb
umpire review.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Now you know, look, I'm not knocking the reviews, but
you've got to find some sort of pageantry to fill
in the holes.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
What I don't understand.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
You know what, his guys we like tools. How come
Arthur Blank is the damn owner of the home people
owns the Falcons. Provide me a couple laser pointer now
grids with the chain gang, all right, give me the
laser points and let them honker their little fat rear
ends out there and laser point this thing down. Because
the problem is they're measuring, and it happened in the

(13:43):
Bronco game.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
They don't know what camera angle to go to.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
They don't know what to show yet, and I saw
six or seven games where nobody knows what to do
because again, like the Bronco play, it wasn't a dramatic
play right. Matter of fact, they only did it and
Steve Leevey admitted they did it because they want to
practice the process. And we're stuck with this. You get
stuck with mac Jones falling down. We all know he short,

(14:07):
and there's nothing to show on camera. You need a
chain game, you need something.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Do you like the Tennis well, do you like the
Tennis review, because they at least they show the thing.
I agree with that part.

Speaker 8 (14:17):
You get an animation to it. You get an animation
really slow.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
Getting to it the other end, and.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Then there's no audi there's no audible popping circumstances. It's
it's uh here, let me ask a dumb question.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
I gotta go their user to measure where they spot.
I thought that the big gripe initially was the spot.
We want to get the spot right.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
The games, they said, And you know what it was,
the Vikings game, the Vikings game, Paul what's his last name,
Paul horn Horny, No, Paul the apostle.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Allen said.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
He said, you know what's great, they got it, as
he said, they got right. But what but the spot's
what we need to get right. He took a little
shot at the Chiefs in that AFC championship.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
That's that's what. But I thought, that's what all the
new computer thing that they were gonna do that, we
get where the spot was supposed to be.

Speaker 8 (15:15):
So so I believe that's what their intention is. I
don't think they're great at it yet. There are no lasers,
which I think.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Give me a good laser pointer show.

Speaker 8 (15:27):
I don't think it'd be hard like lasers and a
chip in the ball. I don't think it would be tough.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Isn't Doctor Evil a big fan of Lazy? That's what
we need. We needn't start.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
So the system that.

Speaker 8 (15:40):
They're using, it's like, uh, it's it's a camera triangulation
and so like they they basically they work off of
several different camera shots to be able to geolocate where
the football then goes. Yeah, you know what I means,
bro just thinking this over, just just spitballing this and
workshopping this right here, workshop, I need the alpine climber

(16:05):
from this price is.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Right that guy yard and doesn't stop it time for
the first down or not? You know what I mean, drama?

Speaker 6 (16:16):
I need. That's good if he could stop.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh no, it's not it could be. Barker rolls out
the animation. I think the animation should be unique to
every single team. The Broncos should have a Mutton Buster.
You know what a small child on a Mutton.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
Tech mobile Okay, your tech mobile graphic back and he's
running in there.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
If it's a first down.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
He Bo Jackson show where he tosses the whole defense
and then.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Forward for a first down. This is a This would
have been better.

Speaker 8 (16:48):
The NFL Competition Committee overlooked the decision to bring Andy in.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
I'm just saying I sat around all damn spring with
nothing to do, nothing to do, and nothing I work
technically for.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
One of the owners.

Speaker 8 (17:02):
Nothing but playoff failure for this guy. He could have
been fixing the NFL the entire time?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Though?

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Seriously, did you not see all the weird camra They
didn't know what to do with the cameras well.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
This was going on. It's there's no booth to point
it at.

Speaker 8 (17:16):
To use a classic cliche that you will often hear
this time of year, it's preseason for everyone.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, almost as if, potentially the Broncos offense was in pre.

Speaker 8 (17:32):
Season mid in a bit of preseason miss the other night,
we got so much to do.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (17:38):
By the way, the great Scott Hastings everybody uh PhD
every day noon to three Scott Hastings, Denver's best friend.
That's right, that's the saying Man Dan Sandy Lindall, I'm
may Craigman, I'm back.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
I'm thrilled to be back in the.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Seat, look energized, refreshed. Thank you, fat under your eyes
are much less baggy.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
They're there.

Speaker 8 (17:59):
That that's kind of what I'm going for right now.
I do have to say it's weird when you come
off of vacation when like it's like eleven thirty in
the morning and you're like, I can't just have a
beer right now.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
That's but okay.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
That's when you know it's to realize, yeah, it's sure,
or you can Harry carry it. Tony Robo, I just
let the big dog yeat.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
I know it's go.

Speaker 8 (18:21):
I'm drying out. Weird, get right in front of everybody
right now.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
There's a little like your I think the bags are
less baggy because of the inflammaci is that what it is?

Speaker 6 (18:30):
It's kind of making everything more tout.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
You're that shirt on the clothes line from back in
the day.

Speaker 8 (18:35):
It's the eighteen hundred calories a day. I took down
a beer every single day over the last week. Filled
the old face out a little bit more. It's I
feel good though, and I'm glad to be here. We
do have a lot to do on this show. It
was preseason for the Broncos offense. We are going to
talk about that coming up here in a few minutes.
Nick Benito appears to be in pay me mode. He
looks pretty damn good. How did the run game look?

(18:58):
Is there a quarterback controversy? All that good stuff coming
up today on the Kraikman and Lindahl Show, Plus the
Rockies lost again. Jokich is tearing up the Greeks. We
have so much to do on this show. It's great
to be back. Nate Craikman, Andy Lindahl Sandman with is
still for Altitude Sports Radio ninety two to five.

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Speaker 3 (19:33):
Well, I don't, I don't, I'm the comment I made.
Here's the deal in this league, throughout the season, You're
gonna go against a lot of faciless opponents. You're you're
gonna have injuries, You're gonna it, man, you better be
ready to put your best stuff on tape and so.

(19:54):
But I don't you know that that's a good question.
But I think I don't know if they felt like
the other day they got the work in. But nonetheless,
you know it was just average to below.

Speaker 8 (20:07):
Average, much like the Kraigman and Lindall show average to
below average. We're with you today until six pm.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
They put that on our CBA entrance.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
It's right there.

Speaker 8 (20:20):
They put it on our plaque that we got average
two below You got to play of the Month because frankly,
you surprised us. I think I have won that thing
twice in seven years. We are with you today until
six Sandman with us for the first hour. We'll talk
to Jeff lake Wells coming up at four o'clock, Nate Corregman,

(20:41):
Andy Lindall, and Mike Sandford. Yes, the starters, they were
average two below average, trailing nine to three by the
time they departed early on there in that second quarter,
and it became steady time out there. Much to dive into,
but let's start with, as Mike Sandford called it, a

(21:02):
preseason type effort out of the first team offense, bone
knicks heard of him. Bone Knicks not great in preseason
game number one, final stat line six of eleven, thirty
one yards, no tuddies, no picks. Kind of fortunate on
that one a little bit and a safety taken. The

(21:25):
long completion for bone Nicks a niner, a nine yard completion,
I believe, was that the crossing route to Troy Franklin.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I think that was, which, yes, it was, and it
was a heroic Troy Franklin catch.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
There was some juice on that thing.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
It was a little bit of an errantly thrown football.

Speaker 6 (21:42):
Pass fastball if you will, Hi, hi, geez.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
You do not want to throw that when you're throwing
basic crosses, which is actually the name. It's not just
a simple term like that's a basic route now, it's
an actual route based across a huge part of the
West Coast offensive vernacular. When you're throwing that ball across
the middle, you ideally want that to be one of
those on body stops him with the football. Sure, the

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last thing you want to do is to throw that
ball to a completely outstretched receiver when you don't need to,
And that was one of the throws, at least from
my vantage point watching it. A couple times I thought
actually had a fairly clean pocket, but Bo, at that
point his feet just did not look remotely set and settled.

Speaker 8 (22:27):
There were feet issues in that game, though, weren't there?

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yeah, let me ask you this then, because you know,
obviously we know Nate was on vacation last week, but
Nate got an eye full of it the week before,
he went to every practice before he was out of here. Again,
is this where are we manifesting? Some of I keep
asking we need to go against ones verse twos because
the pass rush of the Broncos is getting in on

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him every time. And in order for Bo to make
a play most of the practices we've watched when he's
going against the ones, he's had to escape the pocket
of some form. Usually he's only got a couple of
clean pockets to work with. Because how good we think
this past rush is? Well, I mean, did we see
a little of that? Because he's just.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I agree, Andy, you and I both went into the
weekend saying we're not gonna fall victim again to saying
exactly what we watched in practice is going to look
exactly the same way as preseason. Because last year it
didn't look great with bow in preseason practice most but

(23:30):
then levels you remember the Colts game and the Packers game,
those two in particular, Bo looked nothing like what I
watched over the course of four weeks at training camp.
He looked good, but this looked like a continuation of
what we've been watching at training camp. Just not quite

(23:51):
settled in there, not supremely confident. And my takeaway, Nate
is that Broncos Country got something that they may like
or they may not like. I think that Bo's preseason
appearances in games was extended because of Game one's optics.

Speaker 8 (24:10):
Yeah, I think he probably needs to play a little
bit more. There was honestly, like, when I think of
throws that I liked that he made, there was the
RPO that he threw to Troy Franklin that he kept
and they picked up seven yards and it was just
it was all in rhythm.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
It was perfect.

Speaker 8 (24:28):
It was a well scripted obviously a well practiced play
like okay, boom, that was perfect. That was exactly what
this needs to look like. The throw to Sutton that
Courtland didn't come up with, it was a good throw.
Cortland's got to make that catch and maybe if he
makes that catch. Maybe the I think the complexion of
everything probably looks a lot different. But like I also

(24:48):
like I cannot ignore the throws that he made that
I hated, And honestly, there were three of them in
that game where I was just like.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Ooh, I actually had I had four, he had four. Yeah,
we just talked about one of them. I didn't like
the Troy Franklin conversion on fourth down. Okay, interestingly enough
should not have been that adventurous.

Speaker 8 (25:05):
I suppose I didn't put it on the list because
they did convert on its fourth down. The screen to
r J. Harvey on first down, that was not good, horrendous.
He's if anything, dude, just like move your feet, reset
and then make that throw. Also, Harvey had like twenty
yards suspense.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
The one where bo reversed out. Yeah, it was it
was basically like a rollout to the right. Yeah, there
was an edge Blitzer coming off and all he's got
to do is just layer and feather it out to
him and then he missed. He just flat out miss
didn't even give r J. Harvey the opportunity to get
his fingertips on the ball.

Speaker 8 (25:36):
The throw to Franklin, it was on a third down,
it was, But honestly, right before the conversion on fourth down,
the throw on third down, he was trying to layer
it over the corner and in front of the safety
and he left it short. Corner goes up and gets
a ball was nearly intercepted. But honestly, like that was
that throw is a bad decision from the jumps.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Bad decision and an egregious underthrow.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
Well because but if if he lays it out there,
the safety might have picked it off. Like it was,
just he wasn't open right that that ball shouldn't have
gone there. And then leaving it short to Courtland Sutton
on his that was his last throw right before the
field goal. That's one where it's just like, okay, you'll
clean that up, correct. I'm not that worried about that.
It was the screen to Harvey mostly decision, which was

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it was probably the worst throw of the game, and
then the decision to try and hit Franklin on that
third down. Those were bad throws. And again here's where
we come back to the question of has has bone
Nicks done enough that a subpar preseason effort is a
non event.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Here's my problem. I'll sum it up for you this way. Okay,
I don't want to I'm dead serious about this. I
don't want to make this a pick on bone Nicks
segment because, yeah, you guys laid out there's decisions I
need back from you. Yeah, I need R. J. Harvey again.
It's the classic rookie running back problem. The edge is
not available every time, so and I needed to get
between the garden, you know, the garden the center and

(27:05):
make something in the middle.

Speaker 6 (27:06):
Trust your block.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
You got to get up the middle, because.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
You know who did that right away when he got
in the game was Julian McLoughlin. I mean he was
going right up the middle then busting it outside when
the lanes provided. Guess what, I need to see some
of that. Here is my biggest disappointment. The offense as
a whole looked exactly like it didn't practice. And I
was promised when we got against the second team it

(27:28):
was gonna look better. I said that to you had
that one Sean Payton sped last year, right last year,
it was it was not and day. So to your point,
when all of a sudden, I'm seeing an extra driver too,
because we know Shawn's frustrated that that's not the start
that I wanted because we're back to playing the only
game we can play this time of year?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Is the defense still as good as we think? And
then look why? And honestly, if we're.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
Just speaking openly about stuff, didn't love watching the defense
get run through like Swiss cheese, like poop through a goose.
Didn't need to see that, now, you know what he
Bo McMillan was there. That's a hell of a play.
You just tip your cap. That's why they're in the
NFL too.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Made you realize that mac Jones for a for a
New York second, looked like he was the answer after
Tom Brady, but he wasn't.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
How about the Niners, by the way, they faked the
whole world out that they were going to go trade
up for mag Jones, And now they got mag Jones
pretty well.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
After moving on from Trey Lance. But they've already played
played Rocket World.

Speaker 8 (28:25):
Peter, Now, yeah, yeah, look out for Trey Lance. Everybody
the the safety. He did score two points for the defense. O.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Hey, you want to know what I hated the most
about that?

Speaker 4 (28:36):
I do?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Well, No, I'm serious about this. Everybody.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
They were asking earlier, I think on PhD why did
Why again did Shador drop what was one of the
knocks on him? Well, you know Shador had one of
these plays too, it's going backwards.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
You can't go back.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
How many times did Leggy tell us you cannot escape
out of the back of the pocket. And that was
Bo's mistake on that play. It wasn't so much, you
know he. I didn't love his answer. I was just
trying to get some done or whatever. Bottom line is,
don't escape backwards. You're not gonna see. Here's the thing
Bo's got to realize. Sean Poo poo the sophomore slump.
And they don't watch tapele I know this. They know

(29:08):
one thing. You can run way more than they were
giving you respect for. So they're gonna give you that
respect this year. And when a guy breaks down his
rush and he comes at an angle, you're not gonna
get wide of him again, right.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Natal love this. He'll nerd out. The Mountain West Officionado
Nate Krekman, What do you got for me? Going back
to early Boise State in Mountain West conference days, Kellen
Moore days, No, E've been well, yes, but the coaching
staff Chris Peterson, one of his favorite coaching lines. In
that situation that you talk about right there about bo Nicks,
You're in a bad situation. You got an unblocked player,

(29:43):
You're probably not going to net a positive result. Chris
Peterson would always write on your grade sheet, don't make
a bad play worse. Yeah, there's always it, don't make
a bad play worse. And that's what bo Nicks did
by taking that very circuitous negative route into the end
zone and especially going to his left, you have to
contort your body. You can't generate enough enough on the

(30:06):
throw to get it out of bounds and pass the
line of scrimmage. Yeah, he made a bad play worse.

Speaker 8 (30:11):
But again, isn't this doesn't this qualify as as shouldn't
we put this in the non event category out of
our trust to bon Nicks and out of the greatest
ability that he showed as a rookie quarterback, which was
to avoid negative plays. And in his first preseason game
of this year, he made a terrible negative play. But
I think there's a couple of things that bon Nicks

(30:33):
showed us over the course of his rookie season. Is
Number one, he responds typically from two bad performances. And
Number two, he learns and improves. So I really feel
like this is one of those games where, thank god
it's preseason game number one, you'll put things on tape.
I'm sure Sean will say something cutting and insulting to

(30:56):
bone Knicks and rip him and make him feel like
he's about that tough. But then Bonnicks will respond and
he just won't do that crap again. Like at least
of what we've got out of him so far, and
I know it's not a massive sample size, but that's
the ability that Bonnicks has shown us so far. He's
gotten better every week, and he has learned from mistakes
that he has made.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
This is not panic. This is the first preseason game. Yeah,
not everybody looks great now. Again that being said, I'm
not gonna let everybody off the hook. Is back when
you were a championship contender, you went out, you handle
business and a driver too. The defense did what it
was supposed to do and everybody's wearing ball caps, and
whether you like it or not, that didn't happen this game,
so I hope it happens next game.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
That's all back to the learning in that situation. Yeah,
how many times over the careers of Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,
even think latter years of John Elway. Did they just
give themselves up and just fall to the ground like
a bag of potatoes. There's a sack of potatoes when
you know that you're screwed. The new world that we
live in of the college quarterback that's coming in as

(31:58):
a real bona fide duel threat extend every play, this
sexy second play that we talk about how often you
know what's for you over you over sell your ability
to elude that situation.

Speaker 8 (32:09):
But it's funny that you bring that up though. And
again he's in the end zone, so so that's.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
But the ball was snapped at the fourteen.

Speaker 8 (32:16):
It was and there, and he's going in the right direction.
But actually, bo Nicks for a rookie last year, he
was a pretty good self sacker. He had no problem.
He made good decisions.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
About how to protect the ball, like self circulation. Yeah, fan,
whoa what whoa? Now it's another one. I've actually put
that on a grade show, like, hey, sometimes you just
need to go with the old self circulation saculation route.

Speaker 8 (32:41):
If we're gonna uh, if we're gonna knock bow, we
we should point out, uh Stitty fourteen to fifteen buck
thirty six, couple of tuddies through a dime out there.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
To to sherfield man.

Speaker 8 (32:53):
How about how about Stitty's performance right there, you guys
feeling good in the event that his services are needed.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
I enjoyed a little stitady time.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
I think, Surefield, that was a hell of a catch,
all right, I gotta ask you, it's good. It's diddy
need that, because let's be honest, I think he kind
of did. The second team has been more blog than
the first team, and some of these president and.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Then the third team has been the one right, and
I think elling looked great. And I also learned that
I've been saying it wrong. Is that it's a hard
G hard G hard G. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
We've we've done this. Yeah, you were right. We've done
segments on this on this.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Very I was on with U t Alum Chris taveras
nine News on the halftime and postgame show for this preseason.
The Yeah brought a brought a nasty looking beard and
some tired eyes to the to the TV, which was good,
Thank thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
I learned pin all of it.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah time shoes were I were I were undergarments. It
was great. We don't need to get that far. Yeah,
I mean it's good, but I learned from Cristo Vera's
that it is he covered him both in h is it?
West Lake High School? Ordrew Brees went, Drew Brees, you know,
Drew Brees and Sam Allinger same high school. I didn't

(34:10):
do that kind of digging. Yep, never in my life.
If I needed to know where Drew Brees and you do,
because guess what, there is a common denominal.

Speaker 8 (34:18):
Sean with that in the back pocket somewhere in Texas.
That's all you need.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Westlake High School in Austin, Austin homegrown Jared Stidham. To
your point, Andy, is, I was looking for it to
be a continuation of his preseason training camp, which has
been not good. Yeah, I mean, he's misthrows, he's looked
out of rhythm. He kind of has just appeared to
be a glue guy that's just there to to keep
Bo encouraged and you know, give be a really good teammate.

(34:46):
And then Sam Ellinger was the guy. I was noticing that.
Dude's like he's better, at least from what we watched
over the course of twelve prott Texas Gunslinger. He's better,
and maybe it's just that you can't help yourself because
Zach Wilson was in that.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
That's like I.

Speaker 8 (35:01):
Thought he played like a guy that's not in a
quarterback competition. I thought he played like a guy that
was just like, Yeah, I know exactly what my job
is here and there's no pressure on me at all.
I'm cemented. My roster spot is exactly what it is, right, yesty.
He's got a great relationship with Sean Payton. We know that, like,
I'm sure they discuss exactly what his role is.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
He showed some wheels too, which I did not I
did not see.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
Was that an eighteen yard rush that he had does
got a slide?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Was that the longest rush of the day for the
Denver Broncot.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
Don't cough up the ball.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
It was.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
I think I like Watson at an eighteen yard or two.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
I don't want to say bored, but it did look
like he's been a little I can't improve my lot
in life, so let me go through the reps.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
I suggest that.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
Yeah, but you could see the competitor come out in
him on the game Saturday, yep.

Speaker 8 (35:50):
So that was a good thing, saying I'm making his
five and a half million bucks. He's happy as can be.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
If anything, you don't feel like there is any concern,
if there is something that does happen. This bus his
shoe lace in the middle of the drive. Let me
throw this to etge I.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
I was so Scotty and I we're gonna be doing
a little halftime analysis show because I figure most people
watch the first half and we'll see from when I
did the no little postgames.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Are you trying to tell him? Are you trying to
steal my viewers? Halftime show and we'll be wearing ties
and suits. You can tune in on YouTube.

Speaker 8 (36:22):
Did I fall asleep during the fourth quarter of the game,
That's that would be.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Why we're not going after the game. We're gonna go
at the half at the two minute warning. But anyway,
I told Scotty.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
Because we were talking about Stidy, and I said, look,
Jared Stidham's a guy I want to finish a game
for a Bonnicks game plan. Ellinger maybe has a little
something to him where if I had to go a
real long stretch of time without my starter bone Nicks,
I might take a little piece of what we talked about.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Last night, Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson operate that game plan right,
I mean, did you I thought Sam Ellinger was good
in the game. No, I did too, But I'm just
saying I think what what was it was?

Speaker 8 (36:59):
His final six ten fifty five Tuddy, No, picks one
to eight point three on the pass are good. Not
Stidham levels, but pretty good.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
What was Did Stidham have the perfect passer rating?

Speaker 6 (37:09):
Was he won fifty eight three?

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (37:11):
Yeah that was Lamar.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Jackson who had the old one fifty eight three on
the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
Yeah, fourteen to fifteen thirty six.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
How excited do you get about the old preseason passer rating?
I mean something, it's something, it's it's something.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
It's all a data points sure everything.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Watching the game, we might as well keep staying witning
and losing day. By the way, if you.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
Kicked the seventy yard er, so awesome? Excited or you
pissed because it doesn't count in the NFL record, Oh,
you're pumped.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
It doesn't count. You have now earned the probably have
a seventy two yard attempt.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
At some point I looked at that dude's numbers from
last year. He's awesome.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Okay, where was the game played? Not in jackson Yeah
not Who did they play?

Speaker 6 (37:52):
I don't remember? Saints, Sure it wasn't. So was it
was it Steelers?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Oh? The Steelers.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
It wasn't Jacksonville versus Piss.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
So this was you got some heavy ocean air.

Speaker 6 (38:01):
Yeah, so this is not a dumb environment.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
Yeah, this is a legit outdoor city yard kicks.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
The jackson villainers weren't interested, they weren't there.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
The free pool didn't bring him in. Still you realize
they got two pools in that stadium.

Speaker 8 (38:15):
Seventy yarder though. That's like that feathered goes in the
cap forever.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
If you come Jacksonville, would you banana hammock itt up
just to watch a game?

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Just to sure everybody I'm European? Do you a hammock?

Speaker 6 (38:26):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I don't either, I shurey, what do you think I have?

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Several long time say hey, listen, I got shirts that
you and you think I got a banana hammock?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Hey man, sometimes you gotta let your free your freak
flag fly a little bit there, Doctor Lindall, it is correct.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
Do you want me to go with the big shirt
and then the banana hammock, just so people are guessing,
is there anything below?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Cover your backside until you bend over and pick something up.

Speaker 8 (38:53):
Let's dive into the defense's performance a little bit when
we come back, because I would say a guy that's
trying to get paid made a bit of a statement
in that regard. We'll talk about Nick Benito coming up next.

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Speaker 3 (39:20):
Play Action Jones Truvo Andy sacked Nick Bonito the second
team All Pro.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
Hard to block him with a tight end, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (39:31):
It is hard to block that guy with a tight end.
That tight end did not do a very good job
on that. Was that Luke Ferrell was.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
That tight end. I believe it's a feral tight end.

Speaker 8 (39:40):
Slow to get over, I would say, and get to
Nick Benito. Yes, the Nick Benito series blowing up Mac
Jones second go at it out there. Mac Jones was
sacked by Benito on first down for a loss of six.
Benito in the backfield again on second and sixteen. That
was a loss of one. Benito initially shared that sack

(40:03):
with John Franklin Myers. Upon further review it was completely
given to Franklin Meyers. So no half a sack there
for Benito, half a saculation and then third and seventeen
hits him again. Jones escaped, had to throw it away.
No intentional grounding on that one three and out quick punt,
but an absolutely dominant series from the Denver defense. Like yeah,

(40:26):
Mac Jones went out there and went right down the
field and looked pretty good. I believe after that he
had a passer or all of the Niners quarterbacks combined
had a passer rating of twenty two for the rest
of the game, so not terribly impressive for them. The
Denver defense showed up and was as awesome as you

(40:47):
could imagine outside of basically one big play. I don't
know did I thought Benito was great. I thought the
defense looked very very good. Again, they gave up odd
touchdown and that was it for points. I thought depth wise,
the Broncos looked very good. As anybody worked up about
anything what they saw from the defense, I thought it
was great.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
No, this is the price of playing poker with advanced
Joseph defense. Yea, at times you're gonna play man coverage,
you're gonna bring five in the pressure package. So there
are times where NFL wide receivers are going to make
NFL wide receiver catches down the field and you might
give up a fifty yard game. Jaquaan McMillan was in position,
did a great job. He just didn't locate the football,

(41:28):
and Jordan Watkins, the rookie had old miss, made a
great play. Outside of that, there was only one other
snap I didn't like, and that was giving up contain
on the touchdown run. Beyond that, yeah, phenomenal performance defensively,
I would.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
Say, yeah, yeah, I didn't. I still didn't love the
first drive because I expect him. But again, here's what
I do to be fair to everybody. I do hate
that it's just a couple of drives and you're out
of there.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
You know what I mean, if we all really here's
why I never.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Try to freak out about preseason stuff. Again, for the
sake of the exercise, I would like to see you
go in there handle business, look like in this case,
an offensive unit that's been been together before, and go
get the job done. Because Joey Bosa wasn't playing in
that game, you should have handled it a little bit better.
But at the end of the day, how many games
are a first half in a second half game? How

(42:18):
many games can we talk about where you know, everything
went your way and you know what, I'll do one
that went the wrong way for the Broncos. Let's go
back to around Christmas game against the Chargers where everything
you did turned up gold, and then the second half
showed up and nothing you did went right. So that's
why I try not to overreact to these things.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
I mean, you gave up.

Speaker 8 (42:38):
A touchdown on the opening drive and then you forced
a three and out of which they went seven yards
the wrong way, and then you got an interception.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
And you turned them over a bunch.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, Now the third drive was you had gotten some
relief from your starters. You got two drives defensively of
full starters. M had to pick on the third drive
and was he But that third drive was that full
defensive starters?

Speaker 6 (42:58):
No, they were starting to cycle them in.

Speaker 8 (43:00):
But McMillan actually started at the star spot rather than
Jodd Baron, which if we've learned anything about Sean Payton. Yeah,
he just he doesn't give the rookie a start at
the beginning.

Speaker 6 (43:11):
Of the preseason. I think for r. J.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Harvey for whatever is well.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
Yeah, r J.

Speaker 8 (43:14):
Harvey carried the balling off a lot because I think
he needs the work, and I would say he still
needs to work.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
What did you guys make of John day Baron. He's awesome.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, I think he's being there's a guy. I think
there's not often where you want to.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
I don't think you try to show too much in
preseason and specifically blitz packages. I keep saying it, Sean
Payton found his joker. It's you and I talked about
it last week. It just happens his jokers on defense
and that's Jade Baron. I don't think they want to
show all the ways they're going to use them. I
don't think they want tape of everything they've got planned
for him right now.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
You can be wrong, fellas what we saw of jahday
Baron that we hadn't been able to see in training
camp is against NFL competition in space. He is the
definition of what Sean Payton talks about. He isn't elitey tackler. Yeah,
like he hits people and they fall. He is a physical, physical.

Speaker 8 (44:08):
Hitter, didn't Leggie say, like in all of his charting
of him, he didn't have any misstackles from Johnny barn
And Leggy's the guy that actually watches every last little
bit of the film, like granulars can possibly be. So like,
if Jeff Lagweld is gonna say, well, I've watched you
and you never missed a tackle, I'm gonna go ahead
and believe that.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Yeah, Look, I'm still I'm still excited for things. I'm
excited to watch this practice because again, Nate, while you
were gone. Look, the reports were so the Broncos offense
wasn't reported to have crushed it necessarily against the Niners,
but they held their.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Own yea, by all accounts.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
By the reporting, the Broncos did look better in the practice,
which there's so many people like you talk about because
it was starters against starters versus what we saw in
the game. So there's reason for that. Look, if they
have big struggles against this Arizona team, and.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I think we're all gonna be like, all right, what
are we gonna get now? I will say this.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
I want to make one point trying to keep everything
balanced here. The one thing I am a little concerned
about that is a trend that they need to break.
Remember we had this the first year. It was Peyton
and Russell Wilson. So I need to go look the
updated record. But Peyton is a little known for starting
a little slow in Septembers and then he crushes it

(45:23):
in October. Yeah, like he barely ever loses in October.
If you remember that trend of the months, and that's
kind out.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Year he drew the NFC South the majority of it.
Plus yeah, the NFC South being the worst division in
football in the last twenty somebody year.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Well, I would say this, though you can't afford to slow.
You need your game right in September because you've got
these games. Mark Springer's talked a lot about it when
he's predicting. Is would you say the twelve win season
and winning the division? It's because you take advantage of
a colts team that you should take advantage of. You
get that, you come home and get that, or you
go to whatever. You go to the Chargers, I think,
get that Charger game. But the bottom line is there's

(45:59):
some tricky games that you.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Need to try to go and win. You've got to
cert your dominance early on against Tennessee. Have to, and
I would just advise you don't throw caution to the
win when it comes to a Danny Dimes led Indianapolis
Colts team, because I feel quarterback renaissance coming on for
Danny Dimes in Indianapolis.

Speaker 8 (46:18):
Okay, I'm gonna say something here and I'm just gonna
throw it out as a possibility, all right, not manifesting anything.
I'm just saying it's a possibility. It's a very realistic chance.
The bronc is gonna be two and three after their
first five games.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
Could be.

Speaker 8 (46:33):
You open against Tennessee. You should handle your business. Cam
Ward's first NFL start, You get them at home, you're
gonna be fine. You go to Indianapolis, I think the
cults are a mess.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
I think you're gonna be fine, But you should get
that one.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
But I'm with you have to get that one. The
Colts have always been a weird spot for them.

Speaker 8 (46:47):
Go ahead, Nate, and honestly, if Jonathan Taylor didn't drop
the ball right in front of the goal line last year,
you probably lose that game, or it would have been
a hell of a lot harder to win. Instead, you
end up making it really fun. You go to the Chargers.
I just I don't like Dan in that spot.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
It's been a bad matchup for Sean and Sean versus
John and Jim.

Speaker 8 (47:04):
And Jim Jim's gonna run the ball down their throats.
I just that that's gonna be a tough game. I
think Denver's in it. I just think it's a tough game.
You draw Cincinnati at home, if Joe Burrow comes in
and does his thing like you did you last year,
it's gonna be tough. But you do get them at home,
and then you got to go to Philly in week five.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Well then, and look the other thing we cannot escape.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Here's the only thing that kind of caused me a
little concern listening to the listening to the ESPN guys
this morning. You got the Jets in London and now
again it's ESPN. They love their New York teams. They're
trying to hype it. But I do believe an Aaron
Glenn team is going to be a physical team, and
they predicted a lot of teams may lose the week
after they faced the Jets, justifally out of physicality.

Speaker 6 (47:44):
Justin Fields rolled that offense right down the field the
other night.

Speaker 5 (47:46):
Now they're telling him to run. Yeah, no one's ever
told him to run. Everyone said, no, we need you
to be a pastor. They're telling me, just do what
you do, do the thing you're good at. Because when
you throw, it's a disaster. So just go ahead and
do the thing you're doing. And then and it's in London,
make sure you don't lose against rus in week seven.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
No high knees. Yeah, now, are you gonna be there?
Jackson Dark kind of surprised me.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
I gotta tell you.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Watching your weekend. Actually, Jackson Dart.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
Did all right, Russell Wilson.

Speaker 8 (48:10):
I think he was what six of seven for like
twenty eight yards though it was just captain didn't condunk
out there with Hyman.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
You know, they're doing what they did with Pickens last
year game.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
The Lak neighbors are going to be incredible on the
moon ball and they'll run the football and blah blah blah.
I just if, seriously, if Jackson Dart see, I would
not start. I would not make Jackson darts first start
in Denver against this defense at healthy.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
But if Jackson Darts go let Russ be the sacrificial lamb.
But but that's six games in. What if they just
decided to help It's about right. It's just starts about
right for a guy drafted at the end of the
first round.

Speaker 8 (48:42):
Weeks three, four, five at Chargers home versus Cincinnati on
a Monday night at Philadelphia. If you're ranking those games
Broncos most likely to win, what would you put at
number one?

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Since he won?

Speaker 6 (48:55):
Since he at home? Yes, okay, they may not have
Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
They're still of weirdness going on. Defense is still terrible,
and you got better in the secondary.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
Here's what's hard about right now from last year because
I'm with you, but the Chargers. I know, the Chargers
is not a good matchup. I'm not disagreeing with that
at all. Got swept last year, I understand, But if
you keep there's just something about the water and a
Chargers player drinking it where injuries just show up.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I mean, who else They've already lost their generational left tackle.
So in Slater, he's done for the year. Who else's
gonna lose?

Speaker 6 (49:32):
Is he Harrison?

Speaker 8 (49:33):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, hurt last year? Last week? Cart it off done? Wow,
took two steps boom. He just gives contact drill.

Speaker 6 (49:41):
Things happen when I'm on vacation.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Fellow coworker here at KC.

Speaker 6 (49:45):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Not the Chargers, the Rams.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
Oh they pay rent though they do, they do one
dollar a year.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
How about your boy Stenson Bennett. Stetson Bennett is a
preseason all start. You know how we like to list
guys we need, We may need to do a list
of preseason all stars, because that's Stetson Benn.

Speaker 8 (50:01):
You're the guy that is the blog that you should
be writing right now.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Oh, I throw it out all the time. Any old schooler,
and you know, I know you've watched Bronco football for
a long time. You know a guy named Joe du Dick.

Speaker 8 (50:14):
So is Stetson Bennett the Joe Joe Deck of the
award winner.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
They're always the coach will talk about how much Dan
Reeves used to love him some Joe d Deck And
then I think even one year they kept him on
the roster. Got a couple of looks at Winder and
like I can go go back to Yale. I'll tell
you who's Joe du Deck.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Award campaign took a bit of a hit in Game
one for the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 6 (50:37):
Who is that Michael Bandy?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Quiet?

Speaker 6 (50:40):
Quiet?

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Game one? He's your quinnessential do deck preseason?

Speaker 8 (50:45):
Every time I see Michael Mandy out there running around him,
just like.

Speaker 6 (50:48):
Hey, look at Wes Welker.

Speaker 8 (50:50):
Shouldn't you be playing slot receiver for a Peyton Manning
offense right now?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Do you want to know what's sad about?

Speaker 5 (50:56):
We did our preseason spectacular where we draft a team.

Speaker 6 (50:59):
Nobody took Bandy.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Not only did nobody take Bandy, nobody took our guy.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
Uh number fivefield, Oh that's who I would have taken
number one?

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Who got we didn't do quarterbacks?

Speaker 6 (51:11):
Good move, Good on you, well done. Fealous.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
So Jeff Legwall drafted Net's team.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
Who did he take?

Speaker 2 (51:19):
He got you? Julielm was pretty good.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
They had like fourteen Oddrick Estimy and then Tilman guys.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Odrick Estume's time as Denver Bronco might be coming to
an end kind of feels I like the shiftiness of
Blake Watson. I do what does Odric has to may
give you right now that you don't have in R J.
Harvey in other backs, a golden domer. That's it. Outside
of the reception that he has what he averaged two
point five yards per two.

Speaker 8 (51:50):
Point six two point six yards per eight carries for
twenty one yards.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Highly pedestrian running the football. Everybody keeps waiting for oddric
Estimate to be the guy that runs through your because
when you like him to be your goal line guy,
everybody wants to does he just finished going forward? In
preseason teams threes and four?

Speaker 8 (52:11):
Tyler Bidet or Blake Watson, which would watch give you both?

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Spring drafted Beday, here's your running back room after game
one knee jerk reaction, Okay, JK Dobbins, R. J Harvey,
big big gap. It'll be Sewan's guy Joel McLoughlin. And
then Bidet, who's showed him to be a third down
and two minute protecting back. Watsons makes I think he
gets out alive on the practice squad. Okay, estimates, they

(52:40):
just don't estimate. He's not a practice rounder, second second year.

Speaker 6 (52:44):
What does he give you?

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Prove me otherwise?

Speaker 8 (52:46):
You liked him so much. I didn't give him a
uniform for a player. That's how much they liked him.
Jeff Lakewald coming up next, we're talking about preseason game
at number one looking ahead to Arizona. All that with
Jeff Lagwald when we return