August 18, 2025 • 45 mins
00:00 Cross talk.
13:30 Mike Sanford is in for the hour talking Broncos preseason.
33:45 Other NFL notes.
13:30 Mike Sanford is in for the hour talking Broncos preseason.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
But Tyler's uh, he's he's on the men.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I went through an injury that Nate was the original
of He's the og Eyeball injury guy.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, I was, yeah, and then I and then I
found out you got something quite similar to what I
dealt with, except for you knew what happened to you.
I did. Did somebody? Did somebody fart on your pillow?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It might be my dog? Maybe maybe I got I don't,
I don't know. I went to bed and I was fine,
like no problems. Woke up about twelve thirty like an
excruciating eyepain, somehow fell back asleep, woke up again at
like three am. I'm washing my eye out underneath the faucet,
like trying to figure out what's going on. I'm like, listen,
you know how this is as football guys, like we
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gotta be on our deathbed to go to the burg.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You know, like like literally.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I don't want to tell you the last time I've
been to a doctor.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I know. Literally, my wife's so mad about it. I
drove myself to the er at like three thirty in
the morning. Boy, yeah, I drove myself there and.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
They put this die in your eye and they put
like the ultra violet thing on it. I had a
giant scratch across my entire eyeball that somehow just had
no idea, no freaking clue. They're like, well, you probably
slept with your eye lid open.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm like, I don't know. I don't. I don't think
I've ever done that before. I don't think that's a possible.
But this is what I told him. How would he
know he's asleep? That's true. That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm gonna tell you though, Like of all my injuries,
eight surgeries, all the above, this was like top two
or three.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Excruciating paint pain and probably do you sleepwalk? No? Not
to my knowledge. Again, I don't have oh tell us
about it.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
My brother told me one time when we were kids,
we used to, you know, Friday night when I was
a kid, I did, well, I've jumped out windows and
woke up on my front door. I made a bull
of cereal and I jumped it away because I guess
we had water and milk in there, and I grabbed
the wall. My brother was trying. It was freaking him
out because he didn't know what was going on, trying
to wake me up.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So, yeah, you jumping out of windows? Have you ever h.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
This has occurred in high stress times in my life.
So I'm just saying, maybe you need to put some
cameras up to make sure you are walking around yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Have you ever read the book or seen the movie
Mike burbigley A's Sleepwalk with Me. He's he has like
dangerous sleepwalk disorder, the stand up comedian Mike Burbiglia. There's
a no, it's it's very real document. There's a lakina
in and it was just in like some whatever, mid
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size city where he was performing. And uh, famously, there's
a plaque now next to the window that he jumped
out of he was not aware of while he was sleepwalking.
He has to see he has to sleep in a
sleeping bag, like he has to like zip himself up
burrito style. I have I have a son that's the
same way. Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
The amount of times that are are house alarm has
gone off is bewildering.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Because he's just wandering around.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh yeah, he just wandered. He leaves the house in Minnesota.
We didn't actually have this this the alarm sirens in
our bedroom couldn't hear it, and my wife sleeps with
seven sleep fans and stuff like, there's so much white noise.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
We woke up to it to two or three police
officers from Minneapolis p D in our bedroom, drawing guns
because we had the alarm had been on for so long,
guns because they thought that there was like a major
domestic because the front door.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Was the front door was wide open.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
My son had gone out and and and he basically
went into the back he went, uh, and he went
into the backyard, couldn't find his sleepwalk and couldn't find
his way.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Back in terrifying. Yeah, we we survived. Was it winter?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
It was? It was actually summer, Okay, thank god, it
was summer summer like, so it was weather like, thunderstorms.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Wandering around outside in Minnesota winter.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Might have been we might have Christopher McCandless to that one.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So, so here's the theory on on Tyler's scratched cornea. Yep,
because this is what happened to me. I'm blaming my dog. Okay,
blame the dog, But but you confirm this to me,
what that you would trind your beard a couple of
days beforehand. You never know, though, yeah, because if you
went to sleep feeling fine and then woke up, something
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could have been stuck in there. Because that's how I
scratched my cornea. I was using the beard trimmer and
one one whisker just popped off and flew into my
eye and as I tried to rub it out, I
scratched the hell out of my Oh yeah, to the
point where And I was telling Tyler about this the
other day. In order to never have to deal with
this ever again in my life, I ordered like a
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like a pair of like like high school chemistry lab
goggles and I and they were like three bucks out
of their day the green vinyl you know it, yes,
And and I wear it. And now like if I
grow a beard and I need to trim it off
on and I protect my eyeballs because I don't want
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to pay that we like you're edging your lawn pretty
much protective glasses. So they when they when they looked
at it first, off, like I'm not sure if like
the doctor should ever say this.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
But she's like, yeah, that's one of the worst ones
I've ever seen. And I'm like, well, that doesn't make
This was on Thursday night. Last Thursday night, he missed.
I miss Friday because of this. But they told me,
They're like, yeah, your eye is gonna heal super quick.
It's gonna be it's gonna be incredibly painful. And I'm like, byes,
the amount of pain I was in. Yeah, I'm like this, Yeah,
this thing is gonna go on forever. I'm telling you,
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the difference of just twenty four hours was radical. Forty
eight hours later, like the pain was almost gone.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
It's kind of like when you when you bite like
either your tongue or the side of your cheek ridiculously
and it's just like it's it's a it's a scene
out of a film. Yeah, but you think it's gonna
be awful for the next two.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
My visions still a little bit messed up, but I
got zero pain. Did they give you, like the goop
to put in it? Yeah? Yeah, I hate that.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I was sadly, I was wondering more the question that
you had from the broadcast on Friday night about Tyler
was less about his cornea and more about is he
gonna go suns out, guns out on the broadcast.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's a good idea. Are you gonna go?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
I give you I know it's not my my I
don't I can't give you permission, but I'm gonna say,
as one of the coaches in this gameless I'm gonna
give you the full, the full blessing.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
What if I cut off like my suit, like my
jackets and tuxedo type here?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, I like that too. I like that too.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
I want you to get a shirt. We had jerseys
like this for lacrosse tournament one time. The dumb and
dumber remember their tuxedos. Just get a shirt replicating that, Okay,
you can either be orange. You should probably be orange
because you played for the Broncos. We'll give Kraikman the
light blue.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And then you cut the sleeves off. We can give
pretty good. You both can just stand.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
You know what I bought that I have now two
TV's already regretting all this.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, don't worry about it. It's the only one they're
going to have me on. You know what I bought
that I have no clue what the practical purpose of
it is I bought a cut off sleeve sweatshirt with
a hoodie.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You had a little Belichick inspiration so.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It and it was like kind of a pricey little
like I bought this thing and at the time, I
was like, this is a great idea. And then after
I've had it for a month or two it's been summer,
I've had zero purpose to wear it hot so it's
too hot to put on this dang hoodie. And then
I'm like, well by the winter time, like, am I
really good to wear?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Like? What did I buy.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Ball for fallen spring? It's a great fall and spring.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
That's like buying George though, just buy the thing and
cut it off yourself very much more.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
First, it's like it was like probably a just take
seventy bucks sweatshirt.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Okay, what are we doing? What we do for sleeves?
Sleeves the sleeves run ye.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Good question like a Cavarii sweatshirt? Is it some Gucci thing?
Is it some fancy as this tank top e y lt.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We had this conversation the other day on we did
a story about a guy that finished second in a
triathlon competing in Georg's second in a triathlon, second in
a triathlon, lost a bet, competed in George, he finished
in second sixty five competitive. That's a scary human being.
The question that that we it was one of the many.
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We covered all of it, I promise you. But when
it comes to George, what's your Jork policy? Cutoffs or
do you pre him? What do you do you buy
the pre hand or do you just take an old
pair of jeans and make him in the cutoffs? When
you what do you do with Georges?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So this is a fact, not bragging, just describing I've
never once my life, Warren George.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You've never worn George never once kicked him out?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, yeah, George, Like there's some jimbo that.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
They rocked George. George. Were you were able to.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
You were you were able to wear georts in the
inland empire of southern California in the nineties, not an orange.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Not in the coastal region. Okay, you could.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You could have some ops, some marble marble huggers.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So you didn't tell, but I assure you did. Once
tie a sweater around your neck.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Oh, I've many a sweater, I continued to and certainly
around my waistline.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
To here's the other bigger question, super so calful. If
you finished behind George Gay, are you now banned?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Dude wearing georgs? You know what? Don't mean you're terrified. No,
that didn't be losing to No, that guy don't give it.
You know what about it? That guy didn't train for
it either. I promise you just a bit. That guy
don't need to. He's too good. Yeah, you don't. You
don't need to roll georts and whooped your ass. Yeah. Yeah,
look out, everybody.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I think you're I think you're banned from the circuit.
You're out, You're done.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You can't if you've lost a George guy, you've coached.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
High school football multiple years. Have you ever shown up
to it? This is this was a new thing for me.
If you're shown up to a practice and there was
a player, probably somebody who's first time football, maybe maybe
slightly off, wearing jeans for practice for practice, jeans?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Hold on? Does it walk through practice? Jeans?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Helmet, shoulder pads like.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Pads on underneath the gens?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Just jeans, jeans, jeans instead of shorts like in short.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
If I'm being honest, I'd pull him aside it's to
be like, hey, buddy, I'll buy him for you what position,
because maybe there might be something going on there, like
maybe you couldn't afford it or something.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
This was a first, but he does go to first. No,
this is not this was not a factor.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
This was up north at Mead High School, Okay, And
I think he was kind of I think he was
a bit of a yeah yeah, a little little little
farm background. It seemed like, see, I think that dude's
shown up a little bit mess with. Yeah, he's got
he's got some dirt under his fingernails. And he showed
up with jeans, and frankly, I didn't want to tell
him that that's that's abnormal to wear jeans at a
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football practice, so I I didn't tell him, and then
I just started calling him jeans guy, and it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
How did Jeeves guy do though he's.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
A freshman, you know, you know, developmental player, just not
not much, didn't do that, but he was a wife
beater jeans guy.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And then he throws his pads a you go polite
on the developmental player and then you drop it. It's
just a tank. I think we got to did that change.
There's a difference between a tank and wife.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
There it was white, and it was that's a real
tank top. It's this one was white with the with
the subtle ribbing, the white ribbed.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's you that we would know sure in different times
as or from noon to three ash, So you got
are you have to be flip about domestic violence? It's
just it's kind of how we roll in afternoon drive.
Trust me, we'll be inappropriate about a lot of other
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things today at Yeah, I don't own one. The other day,
our buddy Jeff Howe, he he pulled me aside during
practice to show me the screenshot of Michael Penis Junior,
and he he started the conversation with, Hey, Correg but
I know you're gonna do this on your show. It's like,
oh yeah, we're that show. Yeah, yeah, we appreciate it.
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But if if a Richard joke is gonna make it
to air, it's gonna be on this radio show right here.
I can assure you that up. How does that get through?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
That's a tough one. I'm just gonna be really honest.
When you're talking about a white ribbed tank top. To
lose that from your vernacular, that is that is years
years of just built in training d program.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
It's hard. We can all do it. I don't know
we're capable of. That's a tough one. It's the Craig
Mind Lindall Show. That is Tyler Columbus. Everybody saying, man,
and we're talking Broncos preseason game and Sanford's got a
Bronco quarterback take that must be deconstructed today on this
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fine radio show. He's gonna drop that on you when
we return on Altitude Sports Radio ninety two to five.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You've got the Krekman and Lyndahl Podcast. Listen live every
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Speaker 2 (13:30):
Sports Radio app. Ten plays already over ten yards.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Now Steadham watch the en soo back shouldering his pot
Troy Franklin. It's another time for Jared Steadham and he
finds Franklin again for a beautiful touchdown.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Two tunnies to Troy Franklin. The other night, Broncos dominant
once again in preseason football twenty seven to seven over
the Arizona Cardinals. Could have been one more pour one
out for a Caiden pre scorn. Have you ever seen
I swear to God. Is he like turned and walked
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back to the bench and shout out to the nine
News camera crew, who just followed him the whole way.
As he was staring. I felt like I could hear
like the Charlie Brown sad piano music because he was walking.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Friend, Dude, I had a chance to call one preseason
game of color. Uh huh back when I was at
the other place. Yeah, I had a guy do the
exact same thing, and you're just like, all I did
was watch him on the bench because it was fourth quarter,
like literally your last chance to make a good impressions,
is it? And of course I had just sat Logan
up with the that's gonna haunt him and like he's like,
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you have no idea, because yeah, Prescotts actually live that
life at times.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Pre Scorn will never forget that moment for the rest
of his life.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Because not only not only do you blow your chance
to make an impression on what's pretty much a locked up,
tight end room.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, you can't even get to say I at least
scored it tuddy and NFL had a tuddy yeah with
the uniform on and everything.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And never wouldn't have been a second rights on the
first game.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
He could have hit to the ball. Yes, he could
have numbers. Yeah, so heartbreaking for preschool. Question for the
two of you.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Nate, you've been on countless broadcasts, namely with basketball, but
other sports as well. You've done football, You've done ESPN, THEOCHO,
I'm sure numerous broadcasts, Andy, Lacrosse, Broncos.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Uh, I've been on big ESPN. How you feel about that?
Speaker 5 (15:34):
They're toughly Sorry, man, I've made NFL films.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Better know who you're talking to. All. I was gonna ask,
you've never called a Big ten volleyball game before? Have
you called the Big tenure? How was it you? Nebraska? Okay,
Sobraska versus It was not Nebraska that well? Have you
ever done internet? You school baseball? It was? Yes, I have,
How do you want to go? No, it was Penn State.
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I will tell you how elite program. This is how
I did the broadcast. Okay, this is what I did.
It was a du Penn State game. Okay, I guess
I should have mentioned deu was in it too. Yeah,
I thought you was like Big ten Networks. Then he's
an alionas that was cool, slightly different, Okay, but it
was the only volleyball game I've ever called in my life?
Are you a consumer of volleyball? I'm not. I What
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I did was I called a buddy of mine who's
a who's a very good broadcaster who has called everything,
and I was just like, what do I do? And
he goes, this is what you do. You google volleyball
terms because you write down ten of them, you say
each one once, cross it off your list, and by
the end of the broadcast it will have sounded like
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you knew what you were talking about. And I was
very proud of that. So after like an ace, did
you call it a side out? No? No, I got
everything right. I didn't screw up that. This was probably
fifteen years ago.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
You didn't have access tomorrow. It was I, you know,
I did you know he'd ha done you.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I didn't know Chris Marlowe back then. And here I
respect Chris marlow too much for this. This was helped you. Yeah,
but we're talking Chris marlow Is, you know, like he's yes,
he's the Doc Emerick of volleyball, right, like he's the
greatest exactly, like the greatest volleyball announcer that there is.
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I would never insult him with this. Instead, I went
to a friend of mine who's like, again calls the
normal normal, the more highly consumed sports, and I was like,
you've done volleyball before, how'd you do? And he's like,
let me tell you and boom, there you go. That's
how I got through it. That's how I dropped pancake
dig on my broadcast because I knew what it was.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
So back to the original how we went down this
rabbit hole. I was talking about your experiences of just
calling names and for myself been around a lot of teams. Yeah,
coached a lot of teams, seen roughly one hundred plus.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Names on an annual basis.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Oh yeah, have you either of you ever had a
pre scorn?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Never? Now, I've had plenty. You've got a pre scorn before? Listen, listen.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
You got to understand that the box players I deal with,
a lot of them come from Canada and all parts
of Canada, and a couple of.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Them come from Europe. So you've had a pre scorn.
I would take a prescor in any day of the week.
That's an easy name.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I'm just but I I've never heard it, dude, I've
had had any You ever heard.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
No but all last names sound made up. Yeah, but
most of them.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
There's there's at least something I couldn't tell you where
prescoring is derived from. I couldn't give you the etymology
of prescorp.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
It's google able.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Here, I'm gonna find I'm gonna find one of the
guys that I used to add there we go. Yeah, gosh,
you gotta make sure this is him. I'll show you
one of the names that I had that the first
time I saw it, I was like, wait what And
then we'll see if you could say it would pre scorn.
Do you have any idea what he's dealt with when
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he's called some of the I mean, some of the
Simon names will intimidate that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Because I did Rugby, because you gotta do it so fast.
To the Polynesian names, which I actually the Polynesian names
I got very very good at. You know, what's gonna
mess with you You ever dug into like like tried and
true Irish names, those are.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Why when you get into some Gaelic Oh, yeah, the
ancient the ancient.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh language, you know, like the the famous actress Sir
Sharone in it, like her name is like s A
O r s I and like lot get looking umlauts.
Not really, there's something else.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah, the Gaelic version of yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's wild when you start to deal with the Irish names. Yeah,
they make no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Cayden pre Scorn, Yeah, is a Michigander born in Michigan,
raised in Orchard Lake Village, Michigan.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
What do you play? Memphis and Ole? Miss? Right? That
is correct?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Okay, thank Cayden pre Scorn the last name, yeah. The
origin family history is Middle High German. Brush and it
stands for priest is for a variant or brittle or crumbly,
and corn is green, crumbly green, crumbly grain.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Well, that's why you fumbled because he's crumbly green. That's
why he fumbled at.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
The goal because the football itself was crumbly green, crumbly green.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yes it was. It was a crumbly piece of brown leather.
Say that name. Ilia Gich is how I was? You
got closed? Ilia Gich is what I would Yes, I
would have gone Ilia.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I think you would have been correct if he was,
because that's Eastern European Jered hockey player lived in Canada.
I'm guessing I don't know what made his way to
Denver as a post.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I don't know the etymology of Stidham. Yeah, what are
we doing with Stitty? So what do you want to
do about Stitty City is crushing this preseason, destroying it,
destroying it, preseason MVP kind of Jackson Dart probably would
like a word. But right now Stiddy is He's got
the football world on notice with what he's doing this
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preseason spectacular Again the other night, final numbers for Jared
Stidham sixteen of twenty three, two forty two tutties and
a one thirty two and a half passer rating. This
is after game number one in which he threw ah
that is right, ah in completion in fifteen attempts, also
with two tuddies, four touchdowns, no picks thus far in
the preseason for the great Jared Stidham.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Hey, follow up question before you laud praise on him.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Well, because again we jumped on.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
We did our halftime things, Scotty and I've been having
fun doing this little halftime and immediately down the comments
here it comes. If Bonnick struggles early, should they go
to Jared Steadham And I try to put out there, guys,
he's a starting quarterback and Jacoby Burssett falls into the
same category.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I'm not trying. I liked what Stedy did.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It was a lot of Hey, he made a preseason
game fun to watch, So I tip my cap and
salute Jared Stidham.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
He was terrific.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
My god, that could have felt they were about his
base seek his basic could be on like that was
not the Niners Broncos where he decided to have a
blitz each other fest until like a little bit later on.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
No, he should look that way just started before. Yeah,
I don't think there's much to get worked up over here.
He's having a great preseason, like he's a he's a
good NFL backup quarterback, a good veteran NFL backup quarterback
should have a good preseason. But sand Man, you think
the Broncos need to do something about that?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
They should do and uh, what the Broncos need to
do has nothing to do with bo Nix ever struggling
in Jarrett's Stidham coming in in relief of Bonicks. It
has everything to do with capitalizing on Jarrett Stidham's value
by week nine of this coming regular season, and that
would include using this film, which is your resume. At
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every level in football, what you put on tape matters.
There's pro scouts that are evaluating in in the league.
Imagine say two teams Hypothetically they're in a great position
at week nine, Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Just
envision that they are seven and two or seven and
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one at that point in time, and Aaron Rodgers has
some type of an old.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Man injury out for the season.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Play style wise, you mean to tell me that Jared
Stidham couldn't fit right in and give them a chance
better than some of these jimokes that they've been playing with.
Like who's the guy that was it? Rudolph Randolph, Mason, Rudolph.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
There's the guy. They've actually got the kid.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
From Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I think on the on the roster.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
In Howard there Will Howard to think, you man, duck
my friend, he's been there for a while.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
He did just spread years of our show.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
You mentioned that in the first preseason game Jared Stidham
had one incompletion? How many incompletions did Sam Ellinger have
in preseason game two one? How did Sam Ellinger look
in the first.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
P fourteen to sixteen but pretty good.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Fourteen to sixty. How'd he look in the first one?
It was his passer rating in UH in pre season
game one at San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Won a wait point three pretty good? Yeah, pretty good? Well,
exactly stitty, but it's well was he in game two?
In game two, the passer rating on Ellinger one awaight
point nine. Wow. Cons very consistent.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Sam Ellinger fits the play style. If you were to
just go from Boonix to the next guy, he is
light version of Bonex.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, so you you keep.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Sam Ellinger on practice squad or this whatever this emergency
third quarterback deal that they did with Zach Wilson, and
you take advantage of the opportunity to shed salary, get
even further under the cap next year after this Russell
Wilson number comes off the books, and you continue to
develop really good players between one, two and three. I
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wish they would have done it last year with Zach Wilson,
but Zach Wilson would have commanded more money to keep
around ultimately, all right, and Sam Ellinger you could keep
him around for minimum minimum dollar.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
All right.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Well, first off, okay, let me give you a little
pushback because I think the Broncos have moved into first. Off,
I haven't seen Ellenger go against the twos much yet,
have you. I've only seen him really with the threes.
Everyone's been slotted into their spot. So i'd like to
I've seen how about this, We've all seen. Everybody in
this room has seen the third guy show up against
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the third d and then the struggles really grow as
you get up in competition. Absolutely, So I would say
a year ago, when I didn't think this team was
going to be where they are right now, I'd have
been all in on.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
What you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
According to one of the tweets from that Ari or
No good old Dove Cleveman, So he's an aggregator.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
He's a dove guy.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Dove Broncos have twenty four point seven million in salary
cap room, it looks like, is what he's saying right now.
The available cap space for every team is the title
of this thing.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So that's true.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Then they don't really need to necessarily save the money that.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Gonna be post twenty five twenty six.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
But I thought they were tighter honestly too. But to me,
here's the deal, here's what I'm saying to you. We're
in a new Bronco.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Era right now.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Okay, a year ago, I would have said, yes, let's
go ahead and trade him out. Right now, I'm not
messing with this because the Broncos. If Bou were to
get hurt that defense with the wastedam plays, you can
survive a game or two. Now, look long term injury
to anybody starting quarterback on any team, you're gonna have trouble.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
But I think right now, if.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Bou were to have like a polled hammy or tweak
the back thing caught, he busts his shoelace, he busts,
he's out.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
His shoelace needs to be to pitch it through the.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Half until you get you know, to the next week
or something. So I'm not messing with that right now.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Didn't Sean Payton go five and O with Teddy Bridgewater
one time playing place? They were talking about it on
the Saints Breeze this weekend. Yeah, I'm pretty good, right,
like like pretty good. The Broncos are good. They have
a good backup quarterback. Keep your good backup quarterback.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Why not keep your good backup third and get some
return on investments.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
We have no idea how he's gonna do. I mean,
he did not have a great with Indye when you
got it.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Shot at trying to be the start again, Like why
why we get a position of strength? What are we
doing here? Like there is there's a very realistic possibility that. Look,
playing seventeen is tough. Bonnicks could miss a game or
two or three. Like it happens. It happens to guys.
Like again, like Andy said, with the defense that they got,
Diddy's gonna give you a chance to win games. I
just like draft picks. How about this?
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Wow, a draft pick do you think you'll get for him?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It probably fourth? They like they already have, Like that's
just it too. Like the rebuild, this sounds crazy, right,
the rebuild's over. They returned eighty six percent of last
year's roster, highest percentage of returning players in the entire NFL.
The rebuild is over. That was the fastest rebuild we've
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ever seen in our lives. But it happened that quickly.
And like this team is loaded up with their own
draftees all over the place. They like like this sounds
absurd to say, but I'm gonna go less need on this.
FM picks Broncos don't need draft picks right now. Broncos
are good.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
How about educate everybody too. I think a lot of
people know about everybody does. What is the true role
of the backup quarterback through the season. It's about vibes.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I think all three guys, well, it's not about bo
it's a little serious and stiff for my taste. But
the two backups, the second and third string player between
Jared Stidham and and Sam Ellinger appear to be perfect
vibe guys.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Stidy and Davis Webb grew up together. They've known each
other since high school, so they're already bros. You've got
so so when Sean walks into the room, it's everyone's
gonna have to sit up straight, mind their piece, and
there's and everything then there and then and then when
Sewn leaves, they can all just you know, they can
give the wank motion to each other and then go
back to having good vibes. You just you just perfect
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in the room.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
You painted the perfect illustration of how many the amount
of quarterback rooms that I've been a part of that
do exactly what you just said.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
You nailed it. It's it. This is just it like
you've got You got a good guy who is not
a massive drop off when he goes out on the field.
He's a strength. So just be good at backup quarterback
because chances are you gonna need him.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
He's handsomely competive. Yeah, he just compensated.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Two years and eleven million dollars. He's also you kind
just have stopped with that first word. He's handsomely doing everything. Yeah, Jared, Yes,
have you ever been a backup quarterback?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Yeah, you make seriously you look.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
A backup quarterback and my face, pops, do you think
he became such a good coach?
Speaker 5 (29:35):
But talk to me about your role game day because
you're usually Look.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
You just talked about it in the quarterback room.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Look, Jake Plumber kind of talked a little bit about
this with me once upon a time. Is why they
said Ausweiler was good enough.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
With Manning, not the Maning needed it.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
But when the coach comes over and wants to rip
you a new one, and sometimes that you in the
and you're there trying to rebuild the old metal whatever
of the the starter.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
So I lost the starting job as a senior to
a sophomore, ends up being on the cover of NC
Doua a football two.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Thousand and six.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I believe Jared Zebranski, Oh yeah, of yes, bad tattoo
though bad. He had a he had the zoro z
with a tribal around it. Not a great tattoo.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Was doing their best.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I ran into him recently. It's it's a full black
band now, which which is really a smart move. Jared
Sbranski beats me between Chris Peterson, the play calling offensive
coordinator on the headsets having panic attacks during the game.
Truly one of the one of the most wound tight
individuals I've ever been around. The standard was so stinking high,
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and then thunder Dan Hawkins the head coach, not really
knowing what the hell we did offensively and just flying
off the handle at Octave's unknown demandkind yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Dogs are HOLLI.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I would just be like, hey, z come over.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah, hey, then screw those guys.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Okay, this is what happened. Everything's okay.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
See the safety on the backside and you'll be just fine.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
See that's but that's that's why it is important who
the backup is, and it is important there's a relationship there.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, and you tack on one time during that little diatribe.
Stiddy is also just gonna He's just gonna run his
hand through his Perk plus perfection hair and Bo's gonna
get lost in his eyes for a moment, and you
know what, he's going to return to Earth and he's
gonna feel wonderful.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Have you ever heard the reverse of some guy just
letting him know, Hey, I'm ready to go in if
you can't do you think maybe a little Dylan Gabriel
and of that going on right now?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
It happens a time many I'm right here, Yeah, it happens.
I've had Actually, I've had players look at me on
the sideline when the starter was struggling and.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Give me the yeah, look you give your wife.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, good night rock.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, I'm ready to go. Uh huh uh huh. Took
the stand up comedian that says to the younger guy
that went on before him, and he kills and he
does well, and then he's walking off the stage and
the vet comic just looks at him and goes, he'll
get him next time.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Try to get tomorrow, Yeah, the old try to get tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Bad room. Are you gonna do? Sand Man? He's hanging
out with us this hour don't move Stitdy Steady is
backup quarterback perfection.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
I got a question for Sandman and guess what.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, it's based off of.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
At least double digit hours of preseason football this weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
And look once again, you know what.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Nate just gave me the dad, Why are you wasting
your life? I need I need my shoulders drop. His
face changed, He's like.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
You loser, Handy. I need more.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I need more hours in my life so I can
watch double digit preseason football.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, you know after this weekend, you probably don't. I
swear I'm gonna punch.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Somebody that tells me you've got your putting out tape.
For all thirty two teams.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
There was one guy that could not quit saying it
during the fourth quarter for those guys, bro all right,
we got it. Uh huh all right, Well, Andy Lindall,
off of his extensive preseason football experience from the weekend.
Uh fire squad even say it with a straight face. Sandford,
when we returned on a Monday afternoon, correking to Lyndall
and the Sandman. I love it.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
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Speaker 2 (33:45):
Coming up at four o'clock, we will announce the winner
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last week. You were signing up, you were picking the
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While we're gonna announce our winter coming up at the
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give us your finest preseason football takes, all right.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
First off, everyone's amazing in preseason, all right. My question
for you, and look, coach, this goes based off of
last year too, if you remember, and all I heard
last year was that was the class and it proved
to be right. Like, look, Caleb Williams came out this
Caleb Williams now again.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Base defenses. All that caution had the Bears group, yet
he stood in the pocket. He delivered some throws defeat
against the bill second stringers. So look a lot of
last year's class stage. Yeah, a lot of the.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Last year's class is still looking good.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I saw something today where who was it.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I think Kyle Brandt was complaining, or maybe it was
dani Rolofsky wants aggressive.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Drake mayback.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
He feels like he's been handcuffed a little bit.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I'm not super bullish on Drake.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Drake didn't look good.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Well, I'm very bullish on JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I mean, we know, very very okay. But here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Remember last year, all I heard about was all the
quarterbacks this year were gonna suck and putn't hold a
candle to last year's look man preseason or not.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Jackson Dart looks like he's all right, also looked terrible.
Cam Ward he finished two up seven and he had
like three drops. He looked way better than his looks
pretty good. I mean Shador had his moment quite honestly.
Dylan Gabriel looked all right. Now.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
You know that one interception he had two guys in
the same space. He shouldn't have forced the throat, but
he got picked in part because the guy in front
let it go thinking there was a dude behind him
and not knowing about.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
The dB, Well, you know why he's so good. He's
competing and not entertaining. That's true. We'll get into that,
but look for my take on that. Jeez. My point though, is, yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Are we seeing for the longest time I heard from
a lot of NFL people can't use the spread guys?
Can't the spread guys? And the games so different? Everything
is the spread guy? Well, are we not seeing maybe
an evolution in the NFL? Because all these young quarterbacks
who everybody insists on playing at least look competent more
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than quarterbacks used to.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
If you threw him in for their first couple of preseason.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Games, starting out with just cam Ward and Jess Dart
looking better.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Because Dart feels like I don't think he's gonna take
the job for Hilson, but he's had.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Why shouldn't he though, My god, what are you doing
playing Russ?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Here's what I've been told Jackson Dart. When the pictures
constantly changing, which is what he'll see in the National
Football League, he is going to give.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
The football to the other team. That's going to happen.
Not like he is not a highly intellectual.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
I don't intellectually he's not great, okay, and he's not
a judicious with the football guy. All right, Camboard, I've
heard similar sentiments about those two guys. Doesn't surprise me
that they're going to be like some of the Broncos
quarterbacks over the you know the twenty year stretch where
you you know, on and off you at l Way,
then you didn't, then you have Manning, then you don't.
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Some of those Some of those quarterbacks were exciting for
a minute. Drew Locke was exciting for a minute.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Oh he had a game against the Texans that I thought, oh,
this just might be it and it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
That's gonna My prediction is that's what Jackson Dart and
cam Ward are going to be. Okay, I think they're
they're not serious enough NFL starting quarterbacks. And I think
the same for Caleb Williams. Except the difference with Kayle
Williams is he got a big time play calling, offensive coordinator,
head coach.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
That's what that is his best shot to not.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Be the very very board player that does everything to
uh to make to hunt big place.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
That's been a tremendous physical sill skills with a great coach.
Correct That is pretty good recipe. If you're going to
extract talent out of a player, then maybe wasn't otherwise
going to hit his ceiling, which sure looked like last
year Caleb Williams was going nowhere near his ceiling. Yeah,
it did, I'll tell you again.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
One of the reasons why bo Bo and Jade Daniels
will remain top of the class because they have their
consistent play callers. I think Caleb's gonna look better, But again,
that's an offense you got to learn and look, we
already kind of touched on Drake May Josh McDaniels offense
locks up young guys period.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
We saw it here in Denver. It was one of
the problem.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
It was why he constantly went back to Kyle Orton
because they couldn't find any young guys that could consistently
handle what he was He was so used to having
Tom Brady, and in fairness, Mike McCoy fell into this
trap after he had Philip Rivers too. But you can't
just go in there and expect a young guy to
see things like you're talking about. They're not going to
make the adjustments that you just had with I don't know,
even going.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Back to bow Nicks right like Bo Nicks last season.
The game that I go back to and say, the
defensive the defensive game plan against Boonix was perfection.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Was Michael McDonald the opening game at Seattle? It was?
It was perfection.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
And as I watched the season progress, particularly the NFC South,
for whatever reason, I kept seeing all these soft, free
access shell coverages that box is really good against.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
It's what he did against Arizona last week in the
joint practice. They just carved him up. Yeah, what what
does Bo look like?
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Absolute cheeks against tightly contested man coverage with a lot
of population at the box pre snap, I do like buns.
Buns is good, Cheeks is even I don't know man
Cheeks is the old guy?
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Well, yeah, you don't need to send a teenage anymore.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Never mind, why would why would you not see a
whole lot more of that junk ball?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (39:45):
You know, mix up press man coverage looks cover three match,
which is you pass crossers, and then you give him
a ton of different blitz looks, whether they're coming or
they're not. There's population standing up at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
He didn't like what Solid was doing to him in
Week one. That's the thing, man, Yeah, same thing.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
And watching against the NFC South, even the Tampa Bay
Bucks last year, a very good football team. That defense
has played like soft, just very static pre snap shell coverages,
but boded well.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Real quick, speaking of Sala, the San Francisco forty nine ers,
let's just as a quick as side. Have you seen
what their schedule is this year? They play both the
NFC and the AFC South. That's great, they get both
of those plus like they like they got a game
against Cleveland, they got a game against the Giants. So
it happens when you lose all your dudes, if you
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if you look at the Niners and like Kyle Shanahan
didn't forget how to coach, plus Salah dreadful head coach,
fantastic defense. They got some injuries, but the Niners, like
there's I don't know if there's a team in the
NFL that's got an easier path to ten or eleven
wins if Christian McCaffrey's I don't think that's a playoff team.
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Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
On the opposite, you want to talk about the terrible schedule.
Have you guys seen the Cleveland Brown schedule That Joe Flacco,
recently named the starting quarterback, is gonna.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Have to play against.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Good for you, but Bengals to open at Ravens, Packers
at Lions, Vikings at Steelers.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Good night, that's your beginning.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
It sets up perfectly, does it not for Shador Sanders
to take over Week seven, where they host the Miami Dolphins. Yeah, okay,
his oblique was was intentionally hurt. Ah, so you can
go let Dylan Gabriel look like look like buns.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
That's what he did.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
What where do you think Trey Hendrickson is going to
be playing? Because it doesn't feel like it's gonna be Cincinnati.
I know we're all worried about Cincinnati, you believe me.
I love watching that offense and I love Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, they'll score points.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
I mean, you know, here, here we go, We're gonna
Cincinnati this thing up, and he's gonna have I still,
I gotta tell you, I still don't know why they
pay T Higgins. I mean, Joe Burrow is good enough
to make guys. I think he is a guy, so
I to let T Higgins go. And now you paid
all your offensive guys, and apparently you're just gonna go
with no defense again.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Did that work out last few year? Is it all
because of what t Higgins did to the Broncos last year?
Is that how he got himself paid? He destroyed them?
Speaker 5 (42:14):
I don't know, maybe Joe said something, but if he did,
look man, I mean, bottom line is what you gotta
have some kind of defense.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
At some point, he fully blame the Bengals for not
sending massive money in the direction of Trey Hendrick.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, I get what you do. Yeah, pay your guy.
What are you doing? He is not young, he's awesome.
So what you need something? Okay, to Mike's point, you
desperately need something defense. I heard today is.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
He wants at least three years guaranteed. And he's in
his thirties, so they're a little worried about specifically the
third year.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
And he's young.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
And is he from a twitch athleticism perspective?
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Is he is he Crosby?
Speaker 4 (42:53):
What? And I'd probably throw Mike Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Michael Parsons in there. Yeah, well is he those guys?
Parson's going to be playing for the Broncos. That's great,
he wants to be I heard that.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Yeah, that was that was a good scoop that we Yeah,
did you.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Get did you did well? That w hermsy Well?
Speaker 5 (43:12):
I had seen that tweet like two weeks ago, and
if you go, if you clicked on the tweet, the
first comment was is this reel?
Speaker 2 (43:18):
And the AI goes, no, it's not. So there's that.
There's that fact. So are you saying that you probably
should cuss? Reference? You should?
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Grows a Crocker, broke rock, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
Kronk, kronk. I see that's my brain puts in there.
It slips you in there. Hey, real quick, before you
let you go. Have you just been walking Has your
bonux arrived for Ashton genty yet? I mean, you've got
to be walking around ten hut, don't you.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
He's already had an angry run. Did you see the
poor dB ye laid that dude out his soul. Yeah,
somewhere in Vegas.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Gino hit him on a check down to the right
and one to the left and both of them.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
That dude is he is a powerful run. Brock Bauers
had a thousand catches last year with one of the
worst quarterback situations in the league, and now he gets
two and and like, look, nobody is arguing that Gino
Smith is gonna go win a Super Bowl. That's one
of the most accurate throwers of the football in the world.
Couction is going to destroy things this year. The rate
if the Raiders are the classic example of a team.
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If they were in any other division, I would be
penciling them in as a playoff team. I just think
their division's too tough.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
If the division gets beat up, who knows what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Good point, do they split with the Broncos this year?
They got a chance. They could. Damn they could. They could.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Look, that's it's the adults in the room. It was
the John Fox effect. Okay, John Fox shows up here
and at least brought some stability. You know that they
win a ton of games, ironically, not until they went
to Tebow and then created the veer offense no one's
seen since high school.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
If you want to make a football team better, get
a better quarterback and a better head coach. Boom. The
Raiders did both of those things. Pretty savvy. I would
say that's Mike Sandford. Everybody tend to noon Tomorrow on
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
But Tyler's uh, he's he's on the men.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I went through an injury that Nate was the original
of He's the og Eyeball injury guy.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, I was, yeah, and then I and then I
found out you got something quite similar to what I
dealt with, except for you knew what happened to you.
I did. Did somebody? Did somebody fart on your pillow?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It might be my dog? Maybe maybe I got I don't,
I don't know. I went to bed and I was fine,
like no problems. Woke up about twelve thirty like an
excruciating eyepain, somehow fell back asleep, woke up again at
like three am. I'm washing my eye out underneath the faucet,
like trying to figure out what's going on. I'm like, listen,
you know how this is as football guys, like we
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gotta be on our deathbed to go to the burg.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You know, like like literally.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I don't want to tell you the last time I've
been to a doctor.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I know. Literally, my wife's so mad about it. I
drove myself to the er at like three thirty in
the morning. Boy, yeah, I drove myself there and.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
They put this die in your eye and they put
like the ultra violet thing on it. I had a
giant scratch across my entire eyeball that somehow just had
no idea, no freaking clue. They're like, well, you probably
slept with your eye lid open.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm like, I don't know. I don't. I don't think
I've ever done that before. I don't think that's a possible.
But this is what I told him. How would he
know he's asleep? That's true. That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm gonna tell you though, Like of all my injuries,
eight surgeries, all the above, this was like top two
or three.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Excruciating paint pain and probably do you sleepwalk? No? Not
to my knowledge. Again, I don't have oh tell us
about it.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
My brother told me one time when we were kids,
we used to, you know, Friday night when I was
a kid, I did, well, I've jumped out windows and
woke up on my front door. I made a bull
of cereal and I jumped it away because I guess
we had water and milk in there, and I grabbed
the wall. My brother was trying. It was freaking him
out because he didn't know what was going on, trying
to wake me up.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So, yeah, you jumping out of windows? Have you ever h.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
This has occurred in high stress times in my life.
So I'm just saying, maybe you need to put some
cameras up to make sure you are walking around yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Have you ever read the book or seen the movie
Mike burbigley A's Sleepwalk with Me. He's he has like
dangerous sleepwalk disorder, the stand up comedian Mike Burbiglia. There's
a no, it's it's very real document. There's a lakina
in and it was just in like some whatever, mid
(02:37):
size city where he was performing. And uh, famously, there's
a plaque now next to the window that he jumped
out of he was not aware of while he was sleepwalking.
He has to see he has to sleep in a
sleeping bag, like he has to like zip himself up
burrito style. I have I have a son that's the
same way. Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
The amount of times that are are house alarm has
gone off is bewildering.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Because he's just wandering around.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh yeah, he just wandered. He leaves the house in Minnesota.
We didn't actually have this this the alarm sirens in
our bedroom couldn't hear it, and my wife sleeps with
seven sleep fans and stuff like, there's so much white noise.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
We woke up to it to two or three police
officers from Minneapolis p D in our bedroom, drawing guns
because we had the alarm had been on for so long,
guns because they thought that there was like a major
domestic because the front door.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Was the front door was wide open.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
My son had gone out and and and he basically
went into the back he went, uh, and he went
into the backyard, couldn't find his sleepwalk and couldn't find
his way.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Back in terrifying. Yeah, we we survived. Was it winter?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
It was? It was actually summer, Okay, thank god, it
was summer summer like, so it was weather like, thunderstorms.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Wandering around outside in Minnesota winter.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Might have been we might have Christopher McCandless to that one.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So, so here's the theory on on Tyler's scratched cornea. Yep,
because this is what happened to me. I'm blaming my dog. Okay,
blame the dog, But but you confirm this to me,
what that you would trind your beard a couple of
days beforehand. You never know, though, yeah, because if you
went to sleep feeling fine and then woke up, something
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could have been stuck in there. Because that's how I
scratched my cornea. I was using the beard trimmer and
one one whisker just popped off and flew into my
eye and as I tried to rub it out, I
scratched the hell out of my Oh yeah, to the
point where And I was telling Tyler about this the
other day. In order to never have to deal with
this ever again in my life, I ordered like a
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like a pair of like like high school chemistry lab
goggles and I and they were like three bucks out
of their day the green vinyl you know it, yes,
And and I wear it. And now like if I
grow a beard and I need to trim it off
on and I protect my eyeballs because I don't want
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to pay that we like you're edging your lawn pretty
much protective glasses. So they when they when they looked
at it first, off, like I'm not sure if like
the doctor should ever say this.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
But she's like, yeah, that's one of the worst ones
I've ever seen. And I'm like, well, that doesn't make
This was on Thursday night. Last Thursday night, he missed.
I miss Friday because of this. But they told me,
They're like, yeah, your eye is gonna heal super quick.
It's gonna be it's gonna be incredibly painful. And I'm like, byes,
the amount of pain I was in. Yeah, I'm like this, Yeah,
this thing is gonna go on forever. I'm telling you,
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the difference of just twenty four hours was radical. Forty
eight hours later, like the pain was almost gone.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
It's kind of like when you when you bite like
either your tongue or the side of your cheek ridiculously
and it's just like it's it's a it's a scene
out of a film. Yeah, but you think it's gonna
be awful for the next two.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
My visions still a little bit messed up, but I
got zero pain. Did they give you, like the goop
to put in it? Yeah? Yeah, I hate that.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I was sadly, I was wondering more the question that
you had from the broadcast on Friday night about Tyler
was less about his cornea and more about is he
gonna go suns out, guns out on the broadcast.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's a good idea. Are you gonna go?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
I give you I know it's not my my I
don't I can't give you permission, but I'm gonna say,
as one of the coaches in this gameless I'm gonna
give you the full, the full blessing.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
What if I cut off like my suit, like my
jackets and tuxedo type here?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, I like that too. I like that too.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
I want you to get a shirt. We had jerseys
like this for lacrosse tournament one time. The dumb and
dumber remember their tuxedos. Just get a shirt replicating that, Okay,
you can either be orange. You should probably be orange
because you played for the Broncos. We'll give Kraikman the
light blue.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And then you cut the sleeves off. We can give
pretty good. You both can just stand.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
You know what I bought that I have now two
TV's already regretting all this.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, don't worry about it. It's the only one they're
going to have me on. You know what I bought
that I have no clue what the practical purpose of
it is I bought a cut off sleeve sweatshirt with
a hoodie.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You had a little Belichick inspiration so.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It and it was like kind of a pricey little
like I bought this thing and at the time, I
was like, this is a great idea. And then after
I've had it for a month or two it's been summer,
I've had zero purpose to wear it hot so it's
too hot to put on this dang hoodie. And then
I'm like, well by the winter time, like, am I
really good to wear?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Like? What did I buy.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Ball for fallen spring? It's a great fall and spring.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
That's like buying George though, just buy the thing and
cut it off yourself very much more.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
First, it's like it was like probably a just take
seventy bucks sweatshirt.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Okay, what are we doing? What we do for sleeves?
Sleeves the sleeves run ye.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Good question like a Cavarii sweatshirt? Is it some Gucci thing?
Is it some fancy as this tank top e y lt.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We had this conversation the other day on we did
a story about a guy that finished second in a
triathlon competing in Georg's second in a triathlon, second in
a triathlon, lost a bet, competed in George, he finished
in second sixty five competitive. That's a scary human being.
The question that that we it was one of the many.
(08:25):
We covered all of it, I promise you. But when
it comes to George, what's your Jork policy? Cutoffs or
do you pre him? What do you do you buy
the pre hand or do you just take an old
pair of jeans and make him in the cutoffs? When
you what do you do with Georges?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So this is a fact, not bragging, just describing I've
never once my life, Warren George.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You've never worn George never once kicked him out?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, yeah, George, Like there's some jimbo that.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
They rocked George. George. Were you were able to.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
You were you were able to wear georts in the
inland empire of southern California in the nineties, not an orange.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Not in the coastal region. Okay, you could.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You could have some ops, some marble marble huggers.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So you didn't tell, but I assure you did. Once
tie a sweater around your neck.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Oh, I've many a sweater, I continued to and certainly
around my waistline.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
To here's the other bigger question, super so calful. If
you finished behind George Gay, are you now banned?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Dude wearing georgs? You know what? Don't mean you're terrified. No,
that didn't be losing to No, that guy don't give it.
You know what about it? That guy didn't train for
it either. I promise you just a bit. That guy
don't need to. He's too good. Yeah, you don't. You
don't need to roll georts and whooped your ass. Yeah. Yeah,
look out, everybody.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I think you're I think you're banned from the circuit.
You're out, You're done.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You can't if you've lost a George guy, you've coached.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
High school football multiple years. Have you ever shown up
to it? This is this was a new thing for me.
If you're shown up to a practice and there was
a player, probably somebody who's first time football, maybe maybe
slightly off, wearing jeans for practice for practice, jeans?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Hold on? Does it walk through practice? Jeans?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Helmet, shoulder pads like.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Pads on underneath the gens?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Just jeans, jeans, jeans instead of shorts like in short.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
If I'm being honest, I'd pull him aside it's to
be like, hey, buddy, I'll buy him for you what position,
because maybe there might be something going on there, like
maybe you couldn't afford it or something.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
This was a first, but he does go to first. No,
this is not this was not a factor.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
This was up north at Mead High School, Okay, And
I think he was kind of I think he was
a bit of a yeah yeah, a little little little
farm background. It seemed like, see, I think that dude's
shown up a little bit mess with. Yeah, he's got
he's got some dirt under his fingernails. And he showed
up with jeans, and frankly, I didn't want to tell
him that that's that's abnormal to wear jeans at a
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football practice, so I I didn't tell him, and then
I just started calling him jeans guy, and it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
How did Jeeves guy do though he's.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
A freshman, you know, you know, developmental player, just not
not much, didn't do that, but he was a wife
beater jeans guy.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And then he throws his pads a you go polite
on the developmental player and then you drop it. It's
just a tank. I think we got to did that change.
There's a difference between a tank and wife.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
There it was white, and it was that's a real
tank top. It's this one was white with the with
the subtle ribbing, the white ribbed.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's you that we would know sure in different times
as or from noon to three ash, So you got
are you have to be flip about domestic violence? It's
just it's kind of how we roll in afternoon drive.
Trust me, we'll be inappropriate about a lot of other
(12:05):
things today at Yeah, I don't own one. The other day,
our buddy Jeff Howe, he he pulled me aside during
practice to show me the screenshot of Michael Penis Junior,
and he he started the conversation with, Hey, Correg but
I know you're gonna do this on your show. It's like,
oh yeah, we're that show. Yeah, yeah, we appreciate it.
(12:30):
But if if a Richard joke is gonna make it
to air, it's gonna be on this radio show right here.
I can assure you that up. How does that get through?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
That's a tough one. I'm just gonna be really honest.
When you're talking about a white ribbed tank top. To
lose that from your vernacular, that is that is years
years of just built in training d program.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
It's hard. We can all do it. I don't know
we're capable of. That's a tough one. It's the Craig
Mind Lindall Show. That is Tyler Columbus. Everybody saying, man,
and we're talking Broncos preseason game and Sanford's got a
Bronco quarterback take that must be deconstructed today on this
(13:11):
fine radio show. He's gonna drop that on you when
we return on Altitude Sports Radio ninety two to five.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
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Speaker 2 (13:30):
Sports Radio app. Ten plays already over ten yards.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Now Steadham watch the en soo back shouldering his pot
Troy Franklin. It's another time for Jared Steadham and he
finds Franklin again for a beautiful touchdown.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Two tunnies to Troy Franklin. The other night, Broncos dominant
once again in preseason football twenty seven to seven over
the Arizona Cardinals. Could have been one more pour one
out for a Caiden pre scorn. Have you ever seen
I swear to God. Is he like turned and walked
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back to the bench and shout out to the nine
News camera crew, who just followed him the whole way.
As he was staring. I felt like I could hear
like the Charlie Brown sad piano music because he was walking.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Friend, Dude, I had a chance to call one preseason
game of color. Uh huh back when I was at
the other place. Yeah, I had a guy do the
exact same thing, and you're just like, all I did
was watch him on the bench because it was fourth quarter,
like literally your last chance to make a good impressions,
is it? And of course I had just sat Logan
up with the that's gonna haunt him and like he's like,
(14:45):
you have no idea, because yeah, Prescotts actually live that
life at times.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Pre Scorn will never forget that moment for the rest
of his life.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Because not only not only do you blow your chance
to make an impression on what's pretty much a locked up,
tight end room.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, you can't even get to say I at least
scored it tuddy and NFL had a tuddy yeah with
the uniform on and everything.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
And never wouldn't have been a second rights on the
first game.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
He could have hit to the ball. Yes, he could
have numbers. Yeah, so heartbreaking for preschool. Question for the
two of you.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Nate, you've been on countless broadcasts, namely with basketball, but
other sports as well. You've done football, You've done ESPN, THEOCHO,
I'm sure numerous broadcasts, Andy, Lacrosse, Broncos.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Uh, I've been on big ESPN. How you feel about that?
Speaker 5 (15:34):
They're toughly Sorry, man, I've made NFL films.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Better know who you're talking to. All. I was gonna ask,
you've never called a Big ten volleyball game before? Have
you called the Big tenure? How was it you? Nebraska? Okay,
Sobraska versus It was not Nebraska that well? Have you
ever done internet? You school baseball? It was? Yes, I have,
How do you want to go? No, it was Penn State.
(15:59):
I will tell you how elite program. This is how
I did the broadcast. Okay, this is what I did.
It was a du Penn State game. Okay, I guess
I should have mentioned deu was in it too. Yeah,
I thought you was like Big ten Networks. Then he's
an alionas that was cool, slightly different, Okay, but it
was the only volleyball game I've ever called in my life?
Are you a consumer of volleyball? I'm not. I What
(16:21):
I did was I called a buddy of mine who's
a who's a very good broadcaster who has called everything,
and I was just like, what do I do? And
he goes, this is what you do. You google volleyball
terms because you write down ten of them, you say
each one once, cross it off your list, and by
the end of the broadcast it will have sounded like
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you knew what you were talking about. And I was
very proud of that. So after like an ace, did
you call it a side out? No? No, I got
everything right. I didn't screw up that. This was probably
fifteen years ago.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
You didn't have access tomorrow. It was I, you know,
I did you know he'd ha done you.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I didn't know Chris Marlowe back then. And here I
respect Chris marlow too much for this. This was helped you. Yeah,
but we're talking Chris marlow Is, you know, like he's yes,
he's the Doc Emerick of volleyball, right, like he's the
greatest exactly, like the greatest volleyball announcer that there is.
(17:22):
I would never insult him with this. Instead, I went
to a friend of mine who's like, again calls the
normal normal, the more highly consumed sports, and I was like,
you've done volleyball before, how'd you do? And he's like,
let me tell you and boom, there you go. That's
how I got through it. That's how I dropped pancake
dig on my broadcast because I knew what it was.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
So back to the original how we went down this
rabbit hole. I was talking about your experiences of just
calling names and for myself been around a lot of teams. Yeah,
coached a lot of teams, seen roughly one hundred plus.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Names on an annual basis.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Oh yeah, have you either of you ever had a
pre scorn?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Never? Now, I've had plenty. You've got a pre scorn before? Listen, listen.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
You got to understand that the box players I deal with,
a lot of them come from Canada and all parts
of Canada, and a couple of.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Them come from Europe. So you've had a pre scorn.
I would take a prescor in any day of the week.
That's an easy name.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I'm just but I I've never heard it, dude, I've
had had any You ever heard.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
No but all last names sound made up. Yeah, but
most of them.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
There's there's at least something I couldn't tell you where
prescoring is derived from. I couldn't give you the etymology
of prescorp.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
It's google able.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Here, I'm gonna find I'm gonna find one of the
guys that I used to add there we go. Yeah, gosh,
you gotta make sure this is him. I'll show you
one of the names that I had that the first
time I saw it, I was like, wait what And
then we'll see if you could say it would pre scorn.
Do you have any idea what he's dealt with when
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he's called some of the I mean, some of the
Simon names will intimidate that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Because I did Rugby, because you gotta do it so fast.
To the Polynesian names, which I actually the Polynesian names
I got very very good at. You know, what's gonna
mess with you You ever dug into like like tried and
true Irish names, those are.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Why when you get into some Gaelic Oh, yeah, the
ancient the ancient.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh language, you know, like the the famous actress Sir
Sharone in it, like her name is like s A
O r s I and like lot get looking umlauts.
Not really, there's something else.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah, the Gaelic version of yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's wild when you start to deal with the Irish names. Yeah,
they make no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Cayden pre Scorn, Yeah, is a Michigander born in Michigan,
raised in Orchard Lake Village, Michigan.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
What do you play? Memphis and Ole? Miss? Right? That
is correct?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Okay, thank Cayden pre Scorn the last name, yeah. The
origin family history is Middle High German. Brush and it
stands for priest is for a variant or brittle or crumbly,
and corn is green, crumbly green, crumbly grain.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Well, that's why you fumbled because he's crumbly green. That's
why he fumbled at.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
The goal because the football itself was crumbly green, crumbly green.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yes it was. It was a crumbly piece of brown leather.
Say that name. Ilia Gich is how I was? You
got closed? Ilia Gich is what I would Yes, I
would have gone Ilia.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I think you would have been correct if he was,
because that's Eastern European Jered hockey player lived in Canada.
I'm guessing I don't know what made his way to
Denver as a post.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I don't know the etymology of Stidham. Yeah, what are
we doing with Stitty? So what do you want to
do about Stitty City is crushing this preseason, destroying it,
destroying it, preseason MVP kind of Jackson Dart probably would
like a word. But right now Stiddy is He's got
the football world on notice with what he's doing this
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preseason spectacular Again the other night, final numbers for Jared
Stidham sixteen of twenty three, two forty two tutties and
a one thirty two and a half passer rating. This
is after game number one in which he threw ah
that is right, ah in completion in fifteen attempts, also
with two tuddies, four touchdowns, no picks thus far in
the preseason for the great Jared Stidham.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Hey, follow up question before you laud praise on him.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Well, because again we jumped on.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
We did our halftime things, Scotty and I've been having
fun doing this little halftime and immediately down the comments
here it comes. If Bonnick struggles early, should they go
to Jared Steadham And I try to put out there, guys,
he's a starting quarterback and Jacoby Burssett falls into the
same category.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I'm not trying. I liked what Stedy did.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It was a lot of Hey, he made a preseason
game fun to watch, So I tip my cap and
salute Jared Stidham.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
He was terrific.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
My god, that could have felt they were about his
base seek his basic could be on like that was
not the Niners Broncos where he decided to have a
blitz each other fest until like a little bit later on.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
No, he should look that way just started before. Yeah,
I don't think there's much to get worked up over here.
He's having a great preseason, like he's a he's a
good NFL backup quarterback, a good veteran NFL backup quarterback
should have a good preseason. But sand Man, you think
the Broncos need to do something about that?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
They should do and uh, what the Broncos need to
do has nothing to do with bo Nix ever struggling
in Jarrett's Stidham coming in in relief of Bonicks. It
has everything to do with capitalizing on Jarrett Stidham's value
by week nine of this coming regular season, and that
would include using this film, which is your resume. At
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every level in football, what you put on tape matters.
There's pro scouts that are evaluating in in the league.
Imagine say two teams Hypothetically they're in a great position
at week nine, Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Just
envision that they are seven and two or seven and
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one at that point in time, and Aaron Rodgers has
some type of an old.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Man injury out for the season.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Play style wise, you mean to tell me that Jared
Stidham couldn't fit right in and give them a chance
better than some of these jimokes that they've been playing with.
Like who's the guy that was it? Rudolph Randolph, Mason, Rudolph.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
There's the guy. They've actually got the kid.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
From Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I think on the on the roster.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
In Howard there Will Howard to think, you man, duck
my friend, he's been there for a while.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
He did just spread years of our show.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
You mentioned that in the first preseason game Jared Stidham
had one incompletion? How many incompletions did Sam Ellinger have
in preseason game two one? How did Sam Ellinger look
in the first.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
P fourteen to sixteen but pretty good.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Fourteen to sixty. How'd he look in the first one?
It was his passer rating in UH in pre season
game one at San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Won a wait point three pretty good? Yeah, pretty good? Well,
exactly stitty, but it's well was he in game two?
In game two, the passer rating on Ellinger one awaight
point nine. Wow. Cons very consistent.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Sam Ellinger fits the play style. If you were to
just go from Boonix to the next guy, he is
light version of Bonex.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, so you you keep.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Sam Ellinger on practice squad or this whatever this emergency
third quarterback deal that they did with Zach Wilson, and
you take advantage of the opportunity to shed salary, get
even further under the cap next year after this Russell
Wilson number comes off the books, and you continue to
develop really good players between one, two and three. I
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wish they would have done it last year with Zach Wilson,
but Zach Wilson would have commanded more money to keep
around ultimately, all right, and Sam Ellinger you could keep
him around for minimum minimum dollar.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
All right.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Well, first off, okay, let me give you a little
pushback because I think the Broncos have moved into first. Off,
I haven't seen Ellenger go against the twos much yet,
have you. I've only seen him really with the threes.
Everyone's been slotted into their spot. So i'd like to
I've seen how about this, We've all seen. Everybody in
this room has seen the third guy show up against
(25:18):
the third d and then the struggles really grow as
you get up in competition. Absolutely, So I would say
a year ago, when I didn't think this team was
going to be where they are right now, I'd have
been all in on.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
What you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
According to one of the tweets from that Ari or
No good old Dove Cleveman, So he's an aggregator.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
He's a dove guy.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Dove Broncos have twenty four point seven million in salary
cap room, it looks like, is what he's saying right now.
The available cap space for every team is the title
of this thing.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So that's true.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Then they don't really need to necessarily save the money that.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Gonna be post twenty five twenty six.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
But I thought they were tighter honestly too. But to me,
here's the deal, here's what I'm saying to you. We're
in a new Bronco.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Era right now.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Okay, a year ago, I would have said, yes, let's
go ahead and trade him out. Right now, I'm not
messing with this because the Broncos. If Bou were to
get hurt that defense with the wastedam plays, you can
survive a game or two. Now, look long term injury
to anybody starting quarterback on any team, you're gonna have trouble.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
But I think right now, if.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Bou were to have like a polled hammy or tweak
the back thing caught, he busts his shoelace, he busts,
he's out.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
His shoelace needs to be to pitch it through the.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Half until you get you know, to the next week
or something. So I'm not messing with that right now.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Didn't Sean Payton go five and O with Teddy Bridgewater
one time playing place? They were talking about it on
the Saints Breeze this weekend. Yeah, I'm pretty good, right,
like like pretty good. The Broncos are good. They have
a good backup quarterback. Keep your good backup quarterback.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Why not keep your good backup third and get some
return on investments.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
We have no idea how he's gonna do. I mean,
he did not have a great with Indye when you
got it.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Shot at trying to be the start again, Like why
why we get a position of strength? What are we
doing here? Like there is there's a very realistic possibility that. Look,
playing seventeen is tough. Bonnicks could miss a game or
two or three. Like it happens. It happens to guys.
Like again, like Andy said, with the defense that they got,
Diddy's gonna give you a chance to win games. I
just like draft picks. How about this?
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Wow, a draft pick do you think you'll get for him?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It probably fourth? They like they already have, Like that's
just it too. Like the rebuild, this sounds crazy, right,
the rebuild's over. They returned eighty six percent of last
year's roster, highest percentage of returning players in the entire NFL.
The rebuild is over. That was the fastest rebuild we've
(27:43):
ever seen in our lives. But it happened that quickly.
And like this team is loaded up with their own
draftees all over the place. They like like this sounds
absurd to say, but I'm gonna go less need on this.
FM picks Broncos don't need draft picks right now. Broncos
are good.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
How about educate everybody too. I think a lot of
people know about everybody does. What is the true role
of the backup quarterback through the season. It's about vibes.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I think all three guys, well, it's not about bo
it's a little serious and stiff for my taste. But
the two backups, the second and third string player between
Jared Stidham and and Sam Ellinger appear to be perfect
vibe guys.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Stidy and Davis Webb grew up together. They've known each
other since high school, so they're already bros. You've got
so so when Sean walks into the room, it's everyone's
gonna have to sit up straight, mind their piece, and
there's and everything then there and then and then when
Sewn leaves, they can all just you know, they can
give the wank motion to each other and then go
back to having good vibes. You just you just perfect
(28:47):
in the room.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
You painted the perfect illustration of how many the amount
of quarterback rooms that I've been a part of that
do exactly what you just said.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
You nailed it. It's it. This is just it like
you've got You got a good guy who is not
a massive drop off when he goes out on the field.
He's a strength. So just be good at backup quarterback
because chances are you gonna need him.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
He's handsomely competive. Yeah, he just compensated.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Two years and eleven million dollars. He's also you kind
just have stopped with that first word. He's handsomely doing everything. Yeah, Jared, Yes,
have you ever been a backup quarterback?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Yeah, you make seriously you look.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
A backup quarterback and my face, pops, do you think
he became such a good coach?
Speaker 5 (29:35):
But talk to me about your role game day because
you're usually Look.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
You just talked about it in the quarterback room.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Look, Jake Plumber kind of talked a little bit about
this with me once upon a time. Is why they
said Ausweiler was good enough.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
With Manning, not the Maning needed it.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
But when the coach comes over and wants to rip
you a new one, and sometimes that you in the
and you're there trying to rebuild the old metal whatever
of the the starter.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
So I lost the starting job as a senior to
a sophomore, ends up being on the cover of NC
Doua a football two.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Thousand and six.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I believe Jared Zebranski, Oh yeah, of yes, bad tattoo
though bad. He had a he had the zoro z
with a tribal around it. Not a great tattoo.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Was doing their best.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I ran into him recently. It's it's a full black
band now, which which is really a smart move. Jared
Sbranski beats me between Chris Peterson, the play calling offensive
coordinator on the headsets having panic attacks during the game.
Truly one of the one of the most wound tight
individuals I've ever been around. The standard was so stinking high,
(30:41):
and then thunder Dan Hawkins the head coach, not really
knowing what the hell we did offensively and just flying
off the handle at Octave's unknown demandkind yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Dogs are HOLLI.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I would just be like, hey, z come over.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah, hey, then screw those guys.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Okay, this is what happened. Everything's okay.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
See the safety on the backside and you'll be just fine.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
See that's but that's that's why it is important who
the backup is, and it is important there's a relationship there.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, and you tack on one time during that little diatribe.
Stiddy is also just gonna He's just gonna run his
hand through his Perk plus perfection hair and Bo's gonna
get lost in his eyes for a moment, and you
know what, he's going to return to Earth and he's
gonna feel wonderful.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Have you ever heard the reverse of some guy just
letting him know, Hey, I'm ready to go in if
you can't do you think maybe a little Dylan Gabriel
and of that going on right now?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
It happens a time many I'm right here, Yeah, it happens.
I've had Actually, I've had players look at me on
the sideline when the starter was struggling and.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Give me the yeah, look you give your wife.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, good night rock.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, I'm ready to go. Uh huh uh huh. Took
the stand up comedian that says to the younger guy
that went on before him, and he kills and he
does well, and then he's walking off the stage and
the vet comic just looks at him and goes, he'll
get him next time.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Try to get tomorrow, Yeah, the old try to get tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Bad room. Are you gonna do? Sand Man? He's hanging
out with us this hour don't move Stitdy Steady is
backup quarterback perfection.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
I got a question for Sandman and guess what.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, it's based off of.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
At least double digit hours of preseason football this weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
And look once again, you know what.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Nate just gave me the dad, Why are you wasting
your life? I need I need my shoulders drop. His
face changed, He's like.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
You loser, Handy. I need more.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I need more hours in my life so I can
watch double digit preseason football.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, you know after this weekend, you probably don't. I
swear I'm gonna punch.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Somebody that tells me you've got your putting out tape.
For all thirty two teams.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
There was one guy that could not quit saying it
during the fourth quarter for those guys, bro all right,
we got it. Uh huh all right, Well, Andy Lindall,
off of his extensive preseason football experience from the weekend.
Uh fire squad even say it with a straight face. Sandford,
when we returned on a Monday afternoon, correking to Lyndall
and the Sandman. I love it.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
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Speaker 2 (33:45):
Coming up at four o'clock, we will announce the winner
of our Nuggets ticket contest that we were doing all
last week. You were signing up, you were picking the
three games you wanted to see in person next year.
While we're gonna announce our winter coming up at the
top of the hour, and I think that individual is
(34:05):
going to be very pumped, stoked, if you will, about
how many good Nuggets games they will be attending this
upcoming season. So we will announce that winner at the
top of the hour right here at four o'clock. Andy Lindahl,
give us your finest preseason football takes, all right.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
First off, everyone's amazing in preseason, all right. My question
for you, and look, coach, this goes based off of
last year too, if you remember, and all I heard
last year was that was the class and it proved
to be right. Like, look, Caleb Williams came out this
Caleb Williams now again.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Base defenses. All that caution had the Bears group, yet
he stood in the pocket. He delivered some throws defeat
against the bill second stringers. So look a lot of
last year's class stage. Yeah, a lot of the.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Last year's class is still looking good.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I saw something today where who was it.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I think Kyle Brandt was complaining, or maybe it was
dani Rolofsky wants aggressive.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Drake mayback.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
He feels like he's been handcuffed a little bit.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I'm not super bullish on Drake.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Drake didn't look good.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Well, I'm very bullish on JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I mean, we know, very very okay. But here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Remember last year, all I heard about was all the
quarterbacks this year were gonna suck and putn't hold a
candle to last year's look man preseason or not.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Jackson Dart looks like he's all right, also looked terrible.
Cam Ward he finished two up seven and he had
like three drops. He looked way better than his looks
pretty good. I mean Shador had his moment quite honestly.
Dylan Gabriel looked all right. Now.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
You know that one interception he had two guys in
the same space. He shouldn't have forced the throat, but
he got picked in part because the guy in front
let it go thinking there was a dude behind him
and not knowing about.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
The dB, Well, you know why he's so good. He's
competing and not entertaining. That's true. We'll get into that,
but look for my take on that. Jeez. My point though, is, yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Are we seeing for the longest time I heard from
a lot of NFL people can't use the spread guys?
Can't the spread guys? And the games so different? Everything
is the spread guy? Well, are we not seeing maybe
an evolution in the NFL? Because all these young quarterbacks
who everybody insists on playing at least look competent more
(36:20):
than quarterbacks used to.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
If you threw him in for their first couple of preseason.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Games, starting out with just cam Ward and Jess Dart
looking better.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Because Dart feels like I don't think he's gonna take
the job for Hilson, but he's had.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Why shouldn't he though, My god, what are you doing
playing Russ?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Here's what I've been told Jackson Dart. When the pictures
constantly changing, which is what he'll see in the National
Football League, he is going to give.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
The football to the other team. That's going to happen.
Not like he is not a highly intellectual.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
I don't intellectually he's not great, okay, and he's not
a judicious with the football guy. All right, Camboard, I've
heard similar sentiments about those two guys. Doesn't surprise me
that they're going to be like some of the Broncos
quarterbacks over the you know the twenty year stretch where
you you know, on and off you at l Way,
then you didn't, then you have Manning, then you don't.
(37:22):
Some of those Some of those quarterbacks were exciting for
a minute. Drew Locke was exciting for a minute.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Oh he had a game against the Texans that I thought, oh,
this just might be it and it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
That's gonna My prediction is that's what Jackson Dart and
cam Ward are going to be. Okay, I think they're
they're not serious enough NFL starting quarterbacks. And I think
the same for Caleb Williams. Except the difference with Kayle
Williams is he got a big time play calling, offensive coordinator,
head coach.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
That's what that is his best shot to not.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Be the very very board player that does everything to
uh to make to hunt big place.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
That's been a tremendous physical sill skills with a great coach.
Correct That is pretty good recipe. If you're going to
extract talent out of a player, then maybe wasn't otherwise
going to hit his ceiling, which sure looked like last
year Caleb Williams was going nowhere near his ceiling. Yeah,
it did, I'll tell you again.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
One of the reasons why bo Bo and Jade Daniels
will remain top of the class because they have their
consistent play callers. I think Caleb's gonna look better, But again,
that's an offense you got to learn and look, we
already kind of touched on Drake May Josh McDaniels offense
locks up young guys period.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
We saw it here in Denver. It was one of
the problem.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
It was why he constantly went back to Kyle Orton
because they couldn't find any young guys that could consistently
handle what he was He was so used to having
Tom Brady, and in fairness, Mike McCoy fell into this
trap after he had Philip Rivers too. But you can't
just go in there and expect a young guy to
see things like you're talking about. They're not going to
make the adjustments that you just had with I don't know,
even going.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Back to bow Nicks right like Bo Nicks last season.
The game that I go back to and say, the
defensive the defensive game plan against Boonix was perfection.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Was Michael McDonald the opening game at Seattle? It was?
It was perfection.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
And as I watched the season progress, particularly the NFC South,
for whatever reason, I kept seeing all these soft, free
access shell coverages that box is really good against.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
It's what he did against Arizona last week in the
joint practice. They just carved him up. Yeah, what what
does Bo look like?
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Absolute cheeks against tightly contested man coverage with a lot
of population at the box pre snap, I do like buns.
Buns is good, Cheeks is even I don't know man
Cheeks is the old guy?
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Well, yeah, you don't need to send a teenage anymore.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Never mind, why would why would you not see a
whole lot more of that junk ball?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (39:45):
You know, mix up press man coverage looks cover three match,
which is you pass crossers, and then you give him
a ton of different blitz looks, whether they're coming or
they're not. There's population standing up at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
He didn't like what Solid was doing to him in
Week one. That's the thing, man, Yeah, same thing.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
And watching against the NFC South, even the Tampa Bay
Bucks last year, a very good football team. That defense
has played like soft, just very static pre snap shell coverages,
but boded well.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Real quick, speaking of Sala, the San Francisco forty nine ers,
let's just as a quick as side. Have you seen
what their schedule is this year? They play both the
NFC and the AFC South. That's great, they get both
of those plus like they like they got a game
against Cleveland, they got a game against the Giants. So
it happens when you lose all your dudes, if you
(40:40):
if you look at the Niners and like Kyle Shanahan
didn't forget how to coach, plus Salah dreadful head coach,
fantastic defense. They got some injuries, but the Niners, like
there's I don't know if there's a team in the
NFL that's got an easier path to ten or eleven
wins if Christian McCaffrey's I don't think that's a playoff team.
(41:01):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
On the opposite, you want to talk about the terrible schedule.
Have you guys seen the Cleveland Brown schedule That Joe Flacco,
recently named the starting quarterback, is gonna.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Have to play against.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Good for you, but Bengals to open at Ravens, Packers
at Lions, Vikings at Steelers.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Good night, that's your beginning.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
It sets up perfectly, does it not for Shador Sanders
to take over Week seven, where they host the Miami Dolphins. Yeah, okay,
his oblique was was intentionally hurt. Ah, so you can
go let Dylan Gabriel look like look like buns.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
That's what he did.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
What where do you think Trey Hendrickson is going to
be playing? Because it doesn't feel like it's gonna be Cincinnati.
I know we're all worried about Cincinnati, you believe me.
I love watching that offense and I love Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, they'll score points.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
I mean, you know, here, here we go, We're gonna
Cincinnati this thing up, and he's gonna have I still,
I gotta tell you, I still don't know why they
pay T Higgins. I mean, Joe Burrow is good enough
to make guys. I think he is a guy, so
I to let T Higgins go. And now you paid
all your offensive guys, and apparently you're just gonna go
with no defense again.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Did that work out last few year? Is it all
because of what t Higgins did to the Broncos last year?
Is that how he got himself paid? He destroyed them?
Speaker 5 (42:14):
I don't know, maybe Joe said something, but if he did,
look man, I mean, bottom line is what you gotta
have some kind of defense.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
At some point, he fully blame the Bengals for not
sending massive money in the direction of Trey Hendrick.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, I get what you do. Yeah, pay your guy.
What are you doing? He is not young, he's awesome.
So what you need something? Okay, to Mike's point, you
desperately need something defense. I heard today is.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
He wants at least three years guaranteed. And he's in
his thirties, so they're a little worried about specifically the
third year.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
And he's young.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
And is he from a twitch athleticism perspective?
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Is he is he Crosby?
Speaker 4 (42:53):
What? And I'd probably throw Mike Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Michael Parsons in there. Yeah, well is he those guys?
Parson's going to be playing for the Broncos. That's great,
he wants to be I heard that.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Yeah, that was that was a good scoop that we Yeah,
did you.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Get did you did well? That w hermsy Well?
Speaker 5 (43:12):
I had seen that tweet like two weeks ago, and
if you go, if you clicked on the tweet, the
first comment was is this reel?
Speaker 2 (43:18):
And the AI goes, no, it's not. So there's that.
There's that fact. So are you saying that you probably
should cuss? Reference? You should?
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Grows a Crocker, broke rock, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
Kronk, kronk. I see that's my brain puts in there.
It slips you in there. Hey, real quick, before you
let you go. Have you just been walking Has your
bonux arrived for Ashton genty yet? I mean, you've got
to be walking around ten hut, don't you.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
He's already had an angry run. Did you see the
poor dB ye laid that dude out his soul. Yeah,
somewhere in Vegas.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Gino hit him on a check down to the right
and one to the left and both of them.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
That dude is he is a powerful run. Brock Bauers
had a thousand catches last year with one of the
worst quarterback situations in the league, and now he gets
two and and like, look, nobody is arguing that Gino
Smith is gonna go win a Super Bowl. That's one
of the most accurate throwers of the football in the world.
Couction is going to destroy things this year. The rate
if the Raiders are the classic example of a team.
(44:19):
If they were in any other division, I would be
penciling them in as a playoff team. I just think
their division's too tough.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
If the division gets beat up, who knows what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Good point, do they split with the Broncos this year?
They got a chance. They could. Damn they could. They could.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Look, that's it's the adults in the room. It was
the John Fox effect. Okay, John Fox shows up here
and at least brought some stability. You know that they
win a ton of games, ironically, not until they went
to Tebow and then created the veer offense no one's
seen since high school.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
If you want to make a football team better, get
a better quarterback and a better head coach. Boom. The
Raiders did both of those things. Pretty savvy. I would
say that's Mike Sandford. Everybody tend to noon Tomorrow on
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