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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
You know the song, though, don't you people be in
it could be it should be the age of your
of your fill in here today. That's yeah, I was
old enough to remember.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It just is look in the scene. I love the
movie rad because as a kid I thought the bike
tricks were cool. I decided to watch it for the
anniversary a year ago, and it does not hold up
into your adult mind so much. I will say that,
but I still love the movie. But that song sucks.
And anybody thinking dancing with bikes at your prom was
a good idea that that's where That's where we probably
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should have gone ahead and invited another group of editors
in to say do we need this scene?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
You know, where's the focus group? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What are we doing with this? By the way, we're
all getting very campy here. The training camp coverage here
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official injury law firm partner of Broncos Country. Jeff, I,
I actually have. I had a really really fun time.
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I'm watching the Professional Lacross League. The poll that was
hanging out in town the other day, so I did
not get to see the scrimmage. I was checking the
old you know, the Twitter on my watch as I
got updates of things. What did I miss from Saturday scrimmage?
What was your takeaway from the controlled environment.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Very controlled, controlled, emphasis on controlled. I think if people
you know, loosely a scrimmage, I guess I would call
it more situational.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's a modern scrimmage, right, I feel like scrimmage. It
is not that they're all like that.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It's like a spring game, but it even you know,
the difference between what happened Saturday and usual days is,
you know, they started drives with special teams plays. You know,
they went in the order you would go in a game.
But then when they when they went to the situations,
they all were very scripted. You know, the first grouping
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of plays, you know, second and six. You know, they
they didn't go like first out, second down, third down.
If the defense held them, they started over. They didn't
do any of that. It was all situational, but it
was you know, it was all good ones on ones,
twos on twos. You know, That's what I think from
my perspective, that's what you pay attention to this time
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of camp. You know, they've been in OTA's, they've been
in mini camp. I'm looking for groupings because you know,
we're starting to see what they think of the depth
chart by how they practice whether they admit it or not.
They make a second team offense and a second team defense,
and you know, you see where guys are, and I
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think to me that was the the real information there.
And the defense, you know, the one defense is a problem.
They're not much as happening against them. The offense, to me,
has has you know, the EBB and flow. Sean Payton
has talked about leaned way to the defense the number
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one defense so far, and I thought it showed up
again in the scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Okay, but I'd ask this to the fellas before, you know,
before Sanford and Tyler left here. Should we not? We
shouldn't really be surprised.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
No, should we No?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean again, I want to remind everybody that keeps
hearing these reports the offense is in their second year
of development and building. I don't count the first year
because you didn't like what you were doing with Russ
and you scrap some of those players anyway, and this
defense has been building now. This is their third year
Undervanced Joseph. They've had a lot of repeat players from
year to year to year with him, So I don't
think we should be shocked.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
At so and again, where were they all pros, sure
that we're pa You know, Mems was a special Team
All Pro, but Bonito second team All Pro, Zach Allen
second team All Pro. The corner is the defensive player
of the year in the league. So you know, the
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elite talent on the team on defense. So I think
it's going to show up. You know, in this environment,
I think the run game would look a lot different
if they could really go at it and you know,
carve out some things. I think we would have seen
probably a few more good play action things and those
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types of things. But you know, the twenty fifteen defense
dominated an offense with a Hall of Famer, you know,
granted battling health his health issues at that point, Peyton Manning,
but the defense dominated that camp and they had they
had a lot of talent on offense. So I think,
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you know, if they don't move the ball in the preseason,
you know, if the if the starting offense doesn't put
together a couple of nice drives in the first two
preseason games, because I don't think we'll see him in
the third one. But you know, how to the joint
practice Thursday against the Niners. Look, you know, the same
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issues we've seen on offense show up against the Niners
that they've had against their own guys. Then I think
you start raising your eyebrow a little bit and they
have to adjust some things.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But help me out what the issues we're talking about.
For me, A lot of it is protection.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They just don't seem to give bow a lot of
time to do much.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
No, that's going to get anybody a lot of time
against this group, right if they're healthy and can't attack
this way, they're going to be a problem. What issue
do they need?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
How about this? Give me the first issue that's most
important they saw before regular season that you're seeing right now.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I think I'd like to see him do better in
the the really the two minute situation like today, there's
a two minute drill that the first team offense really
struggled against the first team defense, so you know, and
then the second team offense comes in, moves the ball better,
third team offense moves the ball better. So it really
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was today a very specific first team offense thing. And
I think you know, boon Nick's probably had his toughest
day of camp so far, which, look, you're gonna have
a tough day in camp at some point. They're installing,
They're all up in your face about everything. You're You're
going hour after hour after hour. This is probably their
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twelfth day out of fourteen practice in I mean, this
is really the the ma, can we please have a
game or something period of camp. So, but I think
if you see this stuff Thursday, for example, like if
you're Sean Payton, you want to see him move the
ball Thursday against the Niners, however they structure practice, whatever
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they're doing. You want to see him have some success. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, it's kind of funny because these guys, you know,
I feel like Shawn's not really just ever let him
go live, you know what. I mean, that's the one
we're not gonna mean that what Look at the Colts
the other day they go live for like a five
play period in practice and lose a guy for the
year because of a hip drop tackle. Yeah, I guess
by okay, how about I rephrase it.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I feel like I just yeah, I mean, nobody's gonna
go crank it up. And I'll take the word live back.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But I feel like we're not even just watching him
just move the ball and see what happens and react
to the situation and he's singetured.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
He's very he believes and look he you know, he's
been at it a while, so but he believes situational
works everything. Now, how do you handle yourself in these
given you know, he's got a list of the things
that are going to come up, and they they attack
it that way rather than, uh, you know, just move
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the ball period after move the ball period. They just
do it differently. And I think some of that is,
you know, the quarterbacks in his second year and he's
still very much trying to get him. You know, he
likes what he's doing and everything, but I think he's
very much really prepping the runway for him because he
thinks is seems pretty good. So he's trying to cover
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I think I believe he's trying to cover all the
bases now to be ready.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Okay, is there anything because the guy that i'd like
to see in lock a little bit more of what
is going on, and I think there's more in there,
which is why I then say it is Marvin Mims.
Is there any hint that maybe his routree could change
a little, maybe we could see some catch and run
opportunities a little And I'm not talking about the deep
ball where you catch and run past the guy that's
already by you. I'd love to see him get targeted
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ten fifteen yards, you know what I mean. See what
he could do to weave. You've talked about returners.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Great returners are great traffic runners. So yeah, get the
ball to him. You know, I think people better be prepared.
Evan Ingram's getting a pile of targets in this offense.
So is that your fantasy draft? I don't do that
stuff there. If I was, I would tell people. You know,
you want to know who WR two for the Broncos is.
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It's Evan Ingram. I don't care what the position says
on the you know, like every morning I watch the
wide receivers jog over to do the individual drills, and
there's Evan Ingram with the wide receivers in the individual drills.
Aren't any other tight ends on the roster in the group.
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It's just Evan Ingram. So he's But I think Mims
has a chance to be the next guy. You know,
Sutton Ingram. Mims to me, if they end the year
one two three and whatever order, you know, one two
three in targets one two three and catches, then they've
had a good year on offense.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Okay, is there. I guess the reason why I bring
up the reason why I bring up Mimes is because
to me, I'd like to see I feel like right
now in Sean's mind as best as I can get there,
don't know the man at all, but it just feels
like to me, he sees Mims and Franklin sometimes as
redundant players, as the same type of guy that do
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the same type of things. Could we finally see it
where again, maybe Franklin gets more of the home run
ball like we saw in the playoffs, and Mimes does
more of what we just talked about.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I you know again, I you know, sometimes we wonder,
you know, what, what does a coaching staff have invested
in a player who you know, who were there but
when they got there? But I think Mims, I think
he sees Mimes as more and you know, moving him
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to running back last year, but is sort of my
version of the proof that he looked at it and said,
all right, we got to figure something out to get
it done. You know. I I think after Sutton and Ingram,
I think everybody else is going to be scrapping for
plays and targets, and because they really like Pat Bryant
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the rookie in some situations. They really like Franklin in
some situations. They really like mimes in some situations. But
you know, when they've had a chance to just line
up in the in the offense, Mim, Sutton and Ingram
have been with the ones most of the time.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay, let's take our break.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
We'll come back.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
We got to get back more into this all right,
now that we've finally got the zach Allen deal done finally,
it's not like it was some saga out there. Do
you think Benito is it this year? As again, we'll
go back to the horizon question as to what's really
on the horizon, how far is it? And what o
the players do they have to talk about there? And
plus Jeff's got to give us a little take. I mean,
Spring comes back, it's like Mark Springer comes back the
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Cowboys new and Boom. It's nothing but drama all over
the weekend. So Spring and his favorite guy, Jerry Jones
can talk. We'll get your taken. What the heck is
Jerry doing? Yeah, well he might be better off doing
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Speaker 2 (13:08):
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Jeff will be back with us on Friday afternoon, freshly
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back we're assuming from San Francisco on time. Think at
his intel on what the practices or that one practice
anyway was like out there on Thursday. It is one
of those I can't wait. Is it the following Thursday
we get the Cardinals practice here, right, yep, that's the
last day for fans, by the way, I believe, Well,
that'll be that'll be good. That'll be good. So I'm
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very excited about that. All right, So we've got the
contract extensions in the books, for Zach Allen and Courtland Sudden.
He said he made mention that Nick Benito would be
the next up. How soon do you think that becomes
a reality. Are we talking this year? Do you think
could this be one of those Derek Wolf slash Chris
Harris ones where if the deal is the right number
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and both sides feel good, we see it more late
in the year. What do you think the timeline is
gonna be?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well, I think the number is dependent on things that
aren't happening here.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Mark Micah Parsons in particular.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, I mean if you're and Sean Payton has alluded
to this too, that you know, if you do a
deal early, there is potential you're leaving money on the table.
And if you're an edge rusher right now, and unless
they ring your chimes like the Steelers did for wat
or the Browns did for Miles Garrett. Now Benito isn't
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quite in that tier, but that that tier sets the bar,
you know, the money for everyone else. And until Parsons,
you know, everyone assumes whatever Parsons gets from whatever team
is going to give it to them, it will be
the bar for edge rushers, you know, right now, And
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I think if you're Benito and his representatives, you're gonna
want to know where that bar is and know how
close the Broncos will bring you to it. And I
think that's part of it. So if if they're gonna
get it done, you know, sooner, I think they're just
gonna have to convince him and his folks that the numbers. Look,
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this is what the number is going to be later.
You know, it's good enough. But they've had good you know,
not luck, but they're they're doing well. I think the
players believe. I mean that you're practicing and you're looking
at them building what will be the palace in the
NFL of facilities. They spend money on whatever they need,
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whether it's scouting, you know it, equipment, whatever, hiring any people.
You know, they are doing it at a rate that
the players notice how it's going here. So, uh, you know,
Sean Payton calls those things jump balls. You know, do
you win the jump balls? And contract negotiations. They're going
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to win an awful lot of those because of what
they're doing and how they're doing it. So I give
them a good chance to get Benito locked up. I
think the timing is how much everybody can agree, Okay,
the number, this number is really good, and it would
be really good if Parsons signs or not or that
type of thing. But they want them, and I think
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players have no they're poised for good things if if
everybody stays healthy and all of that.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You just said something interesting there. Didn't mean to get
into this this quickly, But since you touched on it,
do you believe there's a chance Michael Parsons is not
a Dallas cowboy or is this just more of the
cowboy nonsense to dominate the training camp shows until we
get to the regular season and then sign him.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Tough with the Cowboys because he I mean, everybody I
know in the league who knows them well. And then
in my experiences of talking to him have been he
likes the attention. He almost likes the attention more than
you know. It out weighs whatever drama it's creating. I mean,
he's I don't know, folks. Remember when Bill Veck ran
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the Chicago White Sox and some other sports teams. You know,
he like, the White Sox played in shorts one game
because Bill Veck thought it was a you know, a
funny idea.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
It was great to everybody.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, talking about you do it for one game, but
you get all the buzz. And Jerry Jones lives for
the Dallas Cowboys to be at the front burner of
everybody's conversations, and whether he would admit that or not,
that's how he conducts business. And he did it with
Dak Prescott. He's done it with every major contract negotiates.
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Even Zach Martin, the offensive line they signed twice. He
did the same thing. So this is not a shock.
But right now, you know, every year they don't win.
Every year, it makes that look like a not a
very good strategy. And the people I know, and I
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think I've said that on this on your show, is
they believe the Cowboys have picked the wrong player and
the wrong agent this time, that this is a different deal,
and that they should understand that this is a different
this is a different deal. Yeah, I yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
There's something about Michael Parsons. Remember this guy has been
known to, you know, get a little upset about things
in the past before. I just don't I could see
him being the one that says no, I say goodbye
to you, and I meant it. But he is a
camp right now for whatever that's worth.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
No, you can't. It's fifty grand a day now. I mean,
they've made the fine system, so you can stay away,
but you're you're paying that money, you know. I think
because he on a rookie deal, I think it can
be rescinded in some fashion, but that would take a
contract being done. So well, you're paying that money. If
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if you sit out and you move on, you're paying
that money.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, that's uh, that's really easy. We can move on
from the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I yeah, yeah, he's the best, one of the best
defensive players in the league. Why would you do that?
I mean, I don't get it, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Because he needs something for them to talk about other
than his They have not made it past the divisional
rounds since nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I mean, can we just say what they're doing isn't working? Well,
not only that you.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Fired the coach that got you there. It was almost
like one of those college things right where he was
lucky to get Switzer in there, and Switzer wrote his
Last Good Crew basically assembled by Jimmy Johnson and the
brain trust there, and he let Switzer coach that group
to one more championships. So I guess good for.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You, but we wouldn't. We wouldn't tolerat it or elevate
that team. If we just covered up the team name
and you said, this team hasn't made it past the
divisional rounds since ninety five and they've missed the playoffs
in over half the season since, then, would you say
that's a good franchise. You would say, you would say
that GM, You would say Franchise X is not a
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good franchise. And then you do uncover the name and
it's it's a Dallas.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Well, what a shock? Right, what a shock? All right,
let's get back to the Denver Broncos. I did want
to ask you about the run game. I think it's
been fun to watch. You know, first off, let me
ask you this because there seems to be some debate.
I know that Rodrick Estimate has had a couple of
moments there last week, But for the most part, I
just I feel like whenever I look at the Backs
and they get into something serious, it's Dobbins and then RJ. Harvey,
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and then we just watched Blake Watson's at a moment.
Julia McLoughlin always seems to do something that keeps him
in any interest.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
And he's the he's the speed guy, right He's the
guy Sean has called the change of pace back. Okay,
I think he would be the third back right now
if you were stacking him. I think four make it
unless there's some.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Kind of including Burton.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
No, okay, I'm saying four running backs will make those sure,
I believe. Uh, you know, that could always change and
all that. I get it, But I think right now
you're trying to decide who's the fourth back, you know,
of the group? Can you know, are they going to
keep estimate and see what he can be as a player.
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I think that's the player who I think has a
lot of potential and you know, are we going to
see it here? You know, I don't know that, but
I think right now Julia mcgoughlin to me is lining
up and playing snaps like he's the third back in
the mix. And that, Yeah, almost every snap with the starters,
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when they're seriously in an offensive side of the you know,
sometimes you get fooled because it's a defensive drill and
if you chart in the offense, you're going to be
making a mistake because at that moment in practice, it's
a defensive drill. So when they've been in the offensive
side of things, it's been almost always Dobbins and Harvey
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with the starters.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Well, uh, a text from Ron and you know what
I think. Next segment when we get there, get your
texts coming in. If you've got a question for Jeff
what he's seen, A camp who you want to know
about three oh three, five oh four O nine to
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two five and coming up at forty five. We'll read
your text and get something. Get you have to answer
some of your camp questions as to what he's seen,
because again, not as many people can go out there
as we've seen in the past. Ron, though, does write
this in because I have I bring this up because
I've heard some Bronco fans say this, Why not trade
Parsons and include Benito and maybe a first round pick
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or what would you do with the Broncos? Why? I mean,
if you've got Benito, do you need to trade for Parsons.
I don't want to disrespect Parsons because I know how
good he is, but it feels like Nick Benito's pretty
darn good himself.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I think in this Steve, I mean, you know, any
team would love to have persons playing for it because
he you know, we think of him as an edge rusher,
but he could play inside linebacker. He can play a
lot of different things in your defense and take multiple
first rounders to get When I talked to you know,
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I threw that out to a couple of pro personnel
guys and gms in the last couple of weeks that
you know, the feeling is it would take like multiple
first rounders, multiple players, and then you gotta pay him.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well, that's just as we start talking about extensions and whatnot,
Like you'd like to get Benito done. But even if
they get Benito done, I don't know, we'll see what
Mims turns into. But you sort of got to kind
of keep things ready for if Bo deserves the top
ten contra. You gotta be five contract, right.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
You gotta be ready for Bo to get the the
big boy, the nine digit, the big nine deal. Yeah,
and you know, if he's a starter for four playoff teams,
you know, in the fifth year option, that's the year
you start talking about it, you know, probably the year
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before that, you know, year four of the you're four
of the deal, you'd probably start if they're still succeeding
and he's still playing, well, that's kind of the year.
But it's that's gonna be the nine digit jumbo one.
That's why I think Sean Payton is so intent on
talking about this team as being super Bowl worthy, because
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when you have a starting quarterback on a rookie deal,
there is no better window in the league to win
a super Bowl than that time.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Okay, could they make trades to augment this if they
needed to, And again I'll just throw out the name
like a Terry McLaurin, if a Terry McLaurin thing. Get
First off, do you think both those teams like.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
What I think Terry McLaurin is Courtland Sutton in my mind? Okay,
if you're innerchanging, now you got two of those and
you don't need to it. And I'm not sure you
need two of those and they're both roughly the same age,
and you know what I mean. You know, I think
the issue McLaurin and you know, I've talked to some
people there. I'm not as deep into that as I
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could be. But I think some of the issue is
the age he'll be at the end of the deal,
and they're, you know, that's what they're trying to figure out.
He obviously wants to get paid, you know, like any player,
but from the team perspective, they're trying to figure out,
what's this look like two years from now?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
All Right, I'm kind of curious because you know, look,
I think they've got to you know, the deal that's
kind of the quiet quirky.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Maybe we don't care, maybe we do. Is Wattenberg Okay,
you know he's surrounded by high rent district. In that
offensive line, I mean, the two tackles are on fairly
large deals. The two guards are on fairly large deals
in terms of where they fit in the league. So
you have four guys in the offensive line who are
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paid among the best.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So would you try to sneak in a cheaper deal.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
No, he's coming up for free agency, he's on his
rookie deal. He's almost done with his rookie deal.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
That's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And why and knowing we I don't think any of
us have mentioned that, but I mean, he's he's gonna
and he's not a first round pick, so there's no
fifth year option or any of that stuff. So he's
that's one they're gonna have to think about. Now, you know,
that's not going to move the needle, you know, in
the in the universe of talk and typing, you know
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where I live, But camp wise, you know, that's that's
something you'd have to think about. Do you want five players,
you know, getting premium money in the offensive line? Now
that might be one place you could do that, but
you know, that's that's he He will have been a
multi year starter on a on a successful team. He
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would get some he would get some coin in the market.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That's interesting. Look, I've said it. I could see if
they go to pay him or maybe Paul Cheski takes
over for uh for.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
But I'm just saying it's it's kind of funny that
that guy he is. He's like the the uh you know,
the regular house on the street where everyone's decided to
scrape them off and build the huge one.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
She passed in the expensive neighborhood. Yeah, he's He's what
we see when you're driving what I called North Denver,
but people call the highlights. So all right, it looks
like they've got a good group of running backs. But
do you think and I like Dobbins, I like Harvey.
We'll see how the other two man h kind of
work themselves out, as you talked about. But is this
gonna be the year where Sean actually dedicates himself to
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the run?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
You know, I know, we'll keep that's the question that
he keeps talking about it. They keep hearing it. They've
spent an awful lot of time in the off season
tweaking their run game a little bit. They've they've given
this so much of their attention, and we still don't
know if in October week whatever, when push comes to shove,
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is that part of the play card just gonna get used?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, just get ignored. We don't know with to run
the ball on the back of it famously.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Or the other I guess we didn't see it or
where it said or don't on the other side. I
just made that up.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
By the way, you think Caleb Lowner is working his
way in, I know that you said he's a refinement
and a project, and I see.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
That at times.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You can see why they picked him though, But has
he done enough where you can't practice squad this guy.
I'm wasn't Peyton talking about that.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I think he will do something in the preseason that
will make that a tough decision. I mean he's gonna
I think he will snatch a ball, you know, late
in the preseason game, and it'll be some poor third
string safety who will look like a small child when
he catches it and he rips the ball. But he
there's a lot of potential there. I'm certainly intrigued by it,
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just on a you know, I like that sort of
part of scouting is seeing what will a guy be
a couple of years from now?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
All right, three h three five four oh nine two five.
If you want to get some questions going for Leggy,
we've already got one. It's thrown in here, and they
want to know what's the weakest position group on offense,
defense and special teams? And why what would you make
what is the most what's there isn't Although now the
linebackers don't get healthy.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Big drop off, you know, I think the drop off
at tackle. I think the starting tackles are you know,
obviously proven. I like Polk though, yeah, I think Paulski
at right, you know, would would he have to do
a little more wrestling at left tackle if he had
to go in there or something, you know, that could
be a little more of a push. But you know,
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and he is sort of the depth I think they
I think that's why they signer Matt Purt again is
because he can be the swing guy. He can play
both sides, and he's functional in a game and all
those things. But they have places where they're thin er
than other places. But I don't know that they have
a weakness. They a glaring like there's not even really
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a a positional competition. I mean, we talk about running back,
but we're talking about carries. We're not talking about this
guy or this guy. You know, there isn't a lot
of that. I mean, there's really good you know, like
at Nickel, is it gonna be a highly touted rookie
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you love who you couldn't believe was on the board,
or is it gonna be a guy who you said
was a Pro Bowl caliber player last year. I mean,
that's that's kind of where they're at right now.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Well, I'll tell you that talented rookie. In the two
minute drill, Jade Barn came screaming in on a blitz
and that play had no chance today.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
But they you know, I think, you know, weakness for
them is is, you know, like anybody who wins it,
can you overcome the injuries you face. That's the you
know what their weakness. But they don't have a glaring
hole on the roster where you're like, okay, this is
a playoff team and at this position, they don't have
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a playoff worthy player. They don't have any of them.
And I know we all don't. If he shanks one
of those from his own five, you know that's gonna be.
He's had some moments. He's had some moments where you're like, Okay,
that thing's in orbit and I hope the International Space
Station enjoys it as it goes by. But and he's
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also had somewhere I thought it was like a mistake,
you know, like he was facing the wrong way or something.
But that that could that could be a real issue, honestly,
in a game, in a tight game where field position
is everything, you know, you can't have those And they're
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still happening, you know, once or twice a practice. Well,
but that the talent, the potential talent is is silly.
I mean, when he really hits it. It's a different sound.
I know people may not care, but you know when
a guy punts the ball or kicks the ball, but
you care what flips the field? When it when the
guys who have real power do it, there is a
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different sort of sound you hear, Like when Mason Crosby
was at the Senior I always tell the story when
Mason Crosby was at the Senior Bowl. I didn't have
to be facing the field to know he was kicking,
because it just sounds different. Different.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
He is Jeff Lagwald. He's here to answer your questions.
We've got a few coming in. Keep him coming. Three
oh three, five oh four, oh nine, two five, We're
gonna do a whole segment of him next to wrap
up Jeff's time with us here, and then Spring's gonna
get you a look at the high five top of
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Speaker 1 (32:50):
You've got the Krekman and Lyndahl Podcast. Listen live every
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Speaker 2 (33:03):
It is correctman to lindehl Andy Lindahl, Jeff Legwald here
with you for this hour. Jeff will be back with
this Friday to fill you in on all we're gonna
miss with them all over the place. So they're gonna
be in San Francisco. We won't all be there, but
we'll watch the practices from afar.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Well.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I guess we'll get I guess we'll get Twitter updates
as best we can. Not sure what the policies out
there are gonna be, but Jeff's gonna give us the
intel when he returns on Friday. By the way, I
do like this question from a text best food, best
food city in the NFL. Now, you're a little strict
with your diets, so I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
It's interesting that I think it's what you like.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, like you know, if you're pizza fans, listen, man,
Chicago's tough to beat.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Chicago's tough to beat. And in France got I will
say Chicago is so much better than it was when
I was a kid. It was it was pretty narrow
lane when I was a kid. They did it great
but it was you know, if you said, you know,
can I have this, they'd look at you sideways. But
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now that's a downtown is rocking. But I think, uh,
I'm trying to think what would be my favorite. I
like Chicago a lot, not just because I grew up there, but.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
No, I'm saying that this guy, you can get a
great burger there. You get food, They got a great steak,
they got a course. All the miamis underrated. I was
gonna say, Miami. Miami's we found some some Latino uh trucks,
food trucks that were outstaks, No you can, and the
people were incredibly friendly, by the way, I mean incredibly friendly.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
That would probably be my one two in my experience.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Like Dallas, Like you know, you go to Texas, you're
gonna find a good steak if you like, you know,
if you go to Seattle. Seattle's got some of those
restaurants off the pier right from the Pacific that can
be fun.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Seattle to a good spot.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, Seattle can be a lot of fun. What I like,
to your point is the places that have variety and
not just like you go to Philly, you gotta get
a cheese dag whatever. But there's these other cities. There's
a great variety.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
So anyway, I'm real big and I'm finding the family
run places. That's where the that's where the real action is.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I'm telling you we did that in San Diego. I
think Spring went to a couple of them too. There's
a place called City Tacos. It was amazing. I'd like
to get them here and put them up against some
of our.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
But you know who the true food kind of sewers
are in the football world are scouts.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Well there you go.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
So I will always text my scout friends and say, hey,
I'm gonna be you know, whatever city I'm going to
give me your I always say, give me your podium,
you know, gold, silver, bronze, give me your podium. And
they'll send me three choices, and more often than not,
you know, one of them will be awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
We got a lot of texts. I'm gonna get to
last point on the food. You know, A J and
I Alan Jackson, who produced the Bronco Games, and I
was across the street he we stumbled into a sandwich
shop in Seattle, which you would have thought was like
the total Burke book nerd shop.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
It turns out they had a bunch of sandwiches name
for some of the Seattle players, including one of the
defensive tackles. So it was fun. It's fun when you
find little places like that. All right, Yeah, I'm gonna try.
We've had about three texts, and I understand it because
I like this player too. What do you think the
situation with Chris Abram's drain is?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
You know, I just caught caught in the crowd. He's
a much better player of this camp than he was.
I mean, you can see the progress he's made. He's
too good to let go. I see him as sort
of being the final corner. You know, if they keep
five corners, I think he's the the fifth corner. I
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like him as a player. He's on a lot of
other special teams units, so that always tells me. You know,
if you go to practice and you don't watch special teams,
you're sort of missing the last ten roster spots there
if you pay attention to who's on the first team
in those groups. But I like him. I think that's
a guy. If you let go, you're going to be
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disappointed two years from now. See, I'm with you you did.
I think Estimate is that player too, But that's just me.
That's just my little personal opinion. Yeah yeah, yeah, but
I think Estimate has got it. I like him as
a player. I think there's so much there that we
haven't seen yet.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Part of me just wonders, he's just got to get
his confidence and do his thing, you know what I mean,
which I know sometimes running back struggle with Okay, Texter
says this from Chris and Arvad. A lot of talk
about Sutton MIM's brand, but not much about Franklin. Does
he fit anywhere in the offense. Honestly, I'm not a fan,
so good. If not, thanks well, the head coach is
a fan. That's one thing. In the quarterback who's a
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former college teammate as well, so he's comfortable throwing him
the ball. I think what he's missing is the diversity
in this game. The things he does, he does pretty well,
and he's been more physical off the line of scrimmage,
and if he's gonna have a bigger role in the offense,
that has to keep advancing because right now, unlike these
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other guys, Bryant is physical. The line of scrimmage can
get the release against anybody. Sutton, one of the most
physical guys in the league, can get the release against anybody.
Mims is a punt returner. He is comfortable with people
being right up in his face and still getting the
ball because that's when you're a returner. You're never in
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the open field, you know, especially a punt returner, you're
catching the ball in a tunnel of doom. But that's
the part of Franklin's game. He's much better this year
than he was last year coming into the league because
corners are tough and big and physical, and you know,
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when they put their hands on him, he got frustrated
and couldn't get into the route. And it doesn't make
He's one of the fastest guys on the team, but
it doesn't matter if you can't get into the space
to use your speed. So that'll be the determining factor
of if he is more than just the deep ball
guy in the offense. Is how he advances that. All right, here,
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here's another texter. Don't have the name on this one.
I have the name if you feel free if you'd
like two would like to know what we're talking to.
But it says what are the chances of the Broncos
ever take the Chiefs in the regular season this year
and somehow end up with home field for the playoffs
and that scenario, can you see the Broncos perhaps making
it to the Super Bowl. I just can't see this
happening unless the Chiefs are beaten by the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Well, just the You're gonna have to beat the Chiefs
if you want home field. I mean, you're not in
the running for home field if you haven't won your division,
you know, And I think for the Broncos to even
be in the running for home field, But look at
what you know. I keep saying it that the AFC
is a cat fight, unlike I mean, how much better
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is it to be in the NFC right now? And
I know that stuff goes in cycles, but I just
look at the quality of quarterbacking for the good teams
in the AFC. I mean, Joe burn had one of
we don't talk about it, but he had one of
the historical seasons last year in terms of production, and
he did not play a playoff game. I mean, I'm
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not sure. I'm not sure a quarterback can play any
better than Joe Burrow did. Other than Manning in thirteen,
which is another level of quarterback, and Brady some of
those years. But in you know, in the league right now,
I'm not sure anybody could play any better than Joe
Burrow did last year. He didn't make the playoffs in
the AFC. Uh. So that's the Broncos problem. I mean,
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it's why home field is going to be so important.
But we all keep talking about the Chiefs are going
to slide back, and then what it's to look like
at the end of the year. I mean, last year's
the ultimate. There was like almost no metric on offense
where the Chiefs finished good yards per play air yard.
I mean, everything statistically mathematically looked just blah except the
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fifteen And then you look at the standings and there
they are because because this guy, their guy is as
close to Brady, like, keep me in the game until
the two minutes and then I'll just get the score
and we'll all go home and talk about what an
ugly win it was.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
All right, mattin Date wants to know, is anyone in
camp surprise you by far? Anyone just period?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
You know the guy I'm and this is my little
scouting nerd hat when I put it on and you've
seen it many times. But there's a receiver I hope
they keep and just look joa Quen Davis. Yeah, that guy.
That guy isn't because when I looked at him coming
into the draft, I was like, man, that is an
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NFL something. But the route tree wasn't awesome and the
offense wasn't you know, there was just a lot to
do there. But from a pure scouting perspective, I want
to see what that guy he looks like two years
from now because he's big and fast and uh sudden
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and just wiry and in traffic he's got body control.
It's just really really raw. All right, I gotta ask
you this, that would be my guy.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I like him too, and I noticed it like he
stood out to me for this.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
I'm big, dude. He's got to be six four and change.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
And well the first ota I saw, I saw eighty
and I'm like, yeah, is that a tight end?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
A minute?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
That's a receiver.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
This is there's no room for him. You know, I
get it, there's not going to be a surprise, But
then don't play him and stuff peck. I would be
very stunned if he's getting very significant snaps. Yeah that
third preseason. All right, this is a fair text.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
There's been a lot of cool aid rainbows and jab reports.
Are the Broncos actually gonna be good? Or are we
getting gas lit and overhit over hyped.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's hard not to get over hyped. And I mean,
look at Twitter ball against air, what a great brawl.
I hate that stuff. I hate it. Stop listening to it.
But we do believe there's a good team here, right. Defense,
the defense is has the potential to be really, really good.
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If they you got to handle your business because it's
hard to play defense in today's NFL. The rule book
is stacked against you. The quarterback play top to bottom
has never been more efficient. I don't know, it's not
more talented, but people are more efficient than they've ever been,
getting completions and first downs and eight yards and it's
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never been more efficient in the league. So it's hard
to play defense and be great at it. Well. But
this group green Law and Hufanga, if they play fourteen, fifteen,
sixteen games, you know, anywhere from fourteen to seventeen games
in a regular season, if they have their eleven on
the field, it's hard for me to believe that they
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have any blips like Cleveland or Baltimore. I mean, they're
gonna be a problem for people, all right.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
What I would also tell this texture is and defense travels.
Defense travels. But I would also say this, and I'm
gonna keep saying.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
It, but offensively, I think the jury is out.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
But listen, I think they could win ten games. That
would not be an improvement from the total last year.
But to me, you would say those are better quality
wins than the ten they got last year. Because at
this point, and it always changes, there's always two teams
that are better than we thought and two teams that
suck more than we thought.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
But they gotta get to Halloween healthy and be in
the mix. Now, you're right, they can't. They can't start
one in four.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
And the trick to that is gonna be you go
to Philly, then you go play in London against the Jets,
and then you come back here without a buy and
play another game. You gotta survive some travel.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
You gotta handle. They gotta get to Halloween.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Say it, got to handle your business.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
They got to be beefy by Halloween.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
All right, there we go, by the way, worst NFL
city for food people throughout New Orleans for a good one,
and I agree. Worst NFL city to me, it's gotta
be Cincinnati. Cincinnati sucks. I went to Cincinnati, like, man,
what do you have here that's worth the tough one?
Because they put that, you know, spaghetti on the that
doesn't look appetizing me. I realize it's just more of
a savory versus sweet. Yeah. I don't care about your chili.
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I don't want your dog, I don't any of that.
Screw you, Cincinnati. I love your football, frank yeah, but
I don't love money.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
So all right, Jeff, thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
You know the song, though, don't you people be in
it could be it should be the age of your
of your fill in here today. That's yeah, I was
old enough to remember.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It just is look in the scene. I love the
movie rad because as a kid I thought the bike
tricks were cool. I decided to watch it for the
anniversary a year ago, and it does not hold up
into your adult mind so much. I will say that,
but I still love the movie. But that song sucks.
And anybody thinking dancing with bikes at your prom was
a good idea that that's where That's where we probably
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should have gone ahead and invited another group of editors
in to say do we need this scene?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
You know, where's the focus group? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What are we doing with this? By the way, we're
all getting very campy here. The training camp coverage here
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official injury law firm partner of Broncos Country. Jeff, I,
I actually have. I had a really really fun time.
(02:00):
I'm watching the Professional Lacross League. The poll that was
hanging out in town the other day, so I did
not get to see the scrimmage. I was checking the
old you know, the Twitter on my watch as I
got updates of things. What did I miss from Saturday scrimmage?
What was your takeaway from the controlled environment.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Very controlled, controlled, emphasis on controlled. I think if people
you know, loosely a scrimmage, I guess I would call
it more situational.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's a modern scrimmage, right, I feel like scrimmage. It
is not that they're all like that.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It's like a spring game, but it even you know,
the difference between what happened Saturday and usual days is,
you know, they started drives with special teams plays. You know,
they went in the order you would go in a game.
But then when they when they went to the situations,
they all were very scripted. You know, the first grouping
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of plays, you know, second and six. You know, they
they didn't go like first out, second down, third down.
If the defense held them, they started over. They didn't
do any of that. It was all situational, but it
was you know, it was all good ones on ones,
twos on twos. You know, That's what I think from
my perspective, that's what you pay attention to this time
(03:19):
of camp. You know, they've been in OTA's, they've been
in mini camp. I'm looking for groupings because you know,
we're starting to see what they think of the depth
chart by how they practice whether they admit it or not.
They make a second team offense and a second team defense,
and you know, you see where guys are, and I
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think to me that was the the real information there.
And the defense, you know, the one defense is a problem.
They're not much as happening against them. The offense, to me,
has has you know, the EBB and flow. Sean Payton
has talked about leaned way to the defense the number
(04:02):
one defense so far, and I thought it showed up
again in the scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Okay, but I'd ask this to the fellas before, you know,
before Sanford and Tyler left here. Should we not? We
shouldn't really be surprised.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
No, should we No?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean again, I want to remind everybody that keeps
hearing these reports the offense is in their second year
of development and building. I don't count the first year
because you didn't like what you were doing with Russ
and you scrap some of those players anyway, and this
defense has been building now. This is their third year
Undervanced Joseph. They've had a lot of repeat players from
year to year to year with him, So I don't
think we should be shocked.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
At so and again, where were they all pros, sure
that we're pa You know, Mems was a special Team
All Pro, but Bonito second team All Pro, Zach Allen
second team All Pro. The corner is the defensive player
of the year in the league. So you know, the
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elite talent on the team on defense. So I think
it's going to show up. You know, in this environment,
I think the run game would look a lot different
if they could really go at it and you know,
carve out some things. I think we would have seen
probably a few more good play action things and those
(05:18):
types of things. But you know, the twenty fifteen defense
dominated an offense with a Hall of Famer, you know,
granted battling health his health issues at that point, Peyton Manning,
but the defense dominated that camp and they had they
had a lot of talent on offense. So I think,
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you know, if they don't move the ball in the preseason,
you know, if the if the starting offense doesn't put
together a couple of nice drives in the first two
preseason games, because I don't think we'll see him in
the third one. But you know, how to the joint
practice Thursday against the Niners. Look, you know, the same
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issues we've seen on offense show up against the Niners
that they've had against their own guys. Then I think
you start raising your eyebrow a little bit and they
have to adjust some things.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But help me out what the issues we're talking about.
For me, A lot of it is protection.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They just don't seem to give bow a lot of
time to do much.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
No, that's going to get anybody a lot of time
against this group, right if they're healthy and can't attack
this way, they're going to be a problem. What issue
do they need?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
How about this? Give me the first issue that's most
important they saw before regular season that you're seeing right now.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I think I'd like to see him do better in
the the really the two minute situation like today, there's
a two minute drill that the first team offense really
struggled against the first team defense, so you know, and
then the second team offense comes in, moves the ball better,
third team offense moves the ball better. So it really
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was today a very specific first team offense thing. And
I think you know, boon Nick's probably had his toughest
day of camp so far, which, look, you're gonna have
a tough day in camp at some point. They're installing,
They're all up in your face about everything. You're You're
going hour after hour after hour. This is probably their
(07:16):
twelfth day out of fourteen practice in I mean, this
is really the the ma, can we please have a
game or something period of camp. So, but I think
if you see this stuff Thursday, for example, like if
you're Sean Payton, you want to see him move the
ball Thursday against the Niners, however they structure practice, whatever
(07:37):
they're doing. You want to see him have some success. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, it's kind of funny because these guys, you know,
I feel like Shawn's not really just ever let him
go live, you know what. I mean, that's the one
we're not gonna mean that what Look at the Colts
the other day they go live for like a five
play period in practice and lose a guy for the
year because of a hip drop tackle. Yeah, I guess
by okay, how about I rephrase it.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I feel like I just yeah, I mean, nobody's gonna
go crank it up. And I'll take the word live back.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But I feel like we're not even just watching him
just move the ball and see what happens and react
to the situation and he's singetured.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
He's very he believes and look he you know, he's
been at it a while, so but he believes situational
works everything. Now, how do you handle yourself in these
given you know, he's got a list of the things
that are going to come up, and they they attack
it that way rather than, uh, you know, just move
(08:41):
the ball period after move the ball period. They just
do it differently. And I think some of that is,
you know, the quarterbacks in his second year and he's
still very much trying to get him. You know, he
likes what he's doing and everything, but I think he's
very much really prepping the runway for him because he
thinks is seems pretty good. So he's trying to cover
(09:02):
I think I believe he's trying to cover all the
bases now to be ready.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Okay, is there anything because the guy that i'd like
to see in lock a little bit more of what
is going on, and I think there's more in there,
which is why I then say it is Marvin Mims.
Is there any hint that maybe his routree could change
a little, maybe we could see some catch and run
opportunities a little And I'm not talking about the deep
ball where you catch and run past the guy that's
already by you. I'd love to see him get targeted
(09:29):
ten fifteen yards, you know what I mean. See what
he could do to weave. You've talked about returners.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Great returners are great traffic runners. So yeah, get the
ball to him. You know, I think people better be prepared.
Evan Ingram's getting a pile of targets in this offense.
So is that your fantasy draft? I don't do that
stuff there. If I was, I would tell people. You know,
you want to know who WR two for the Broncos is.
(09:56):
It's Evan Ingram. I don't care what the position says
on the you know, like every morning I watch the
wide receivers jog over to do the individual drills, and
there's Evan Ingram with the wide receivers in the individual drills.
Aren't any other tight ends on the roster in the group.
(10:17):
It's just Evan Ingram. So he's But I think Mims
has a chance to be the next guy. You know,
Sutton Ingram. Mims to me, if they end the year
one two three and whatever order, you know, one two
three in targets one two three and catches, then they've
had a good year on offense.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Okay, is there. I guess the reason why I bring
up the reason why I bring up Mimes is because
to me, I'd like to see I feel like right
now in Sean's mind as best as I can get there,
don't know the man at all, but it just feels
like to me, he sees Mims and Franklin sometimes as
redundant players, as the same type of guy that do
(10:55):
the same type of things. Could we finally see it
where again, maybe Franklin gets more of the home run
ball like we saw in the playoffs, and Mimes does
more of what we just talked about.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I you know again, I you know, sometimes we wonder,
you know, what, what does a coaching staff have invested
in a player who you know, who were there but
when they got there? But I think Mims, I think
he sees Mimes as more and you know, moving him
(11:27):
to running back last year, but is sort of my
version of the proof that he looked at it and said,
all right, we got to figure something out to get
it done. You know. I I think after Sutton and Ingram,
I think everybody else is going to be scrapping for
plays and targets, and because they really like Pat Bryant
(11:51):
the rookie in some situations. They really like Franklin in
some situations. They really like mimes in some situations. But
you know, when they've had a chance to just line
up in the in the offense, Mim, Sutton and Ingram
have been with the ones most of the time.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay, let's take our break.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
We'll come back.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
We got to get back more into this all right,
now that we've finally got the zach Allen deal done finally,
it's not like it was some saga out there. Do
you think Benito is it this year? As again, we'll
go back to the horizon question as to what's really
on the horizon, how far is it? And what o
the players do they have to talk about there? And
plus Jeff's got to give us a little take. I mean,
Spring comes back, it's like Mark Springer comes back the
(12:37):
Cowboys new and Boom. It's nothing but drama all over
the weekend. So Spring and his favorite guy, Jerry Jones
can talk. We'll get your taken. What the heck is
Jerry doing? Yeah, well he might be better off doing
that and not doing press conferences, right, now it's Altitude
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Speaker 1 (12:55):
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Speaker 2 (13:08):
It is a Monday afternoon here in the mile highest city.
Send it like an fmdjm Andylanda along with Jeff Legwald
as we hang out with you. Mark Springer is back
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Jeff will be back with us on Friday afternoon, freshly
(13:29):
back we're assuming from San Francisco on time. Think at
his intel on what the practices or that one practice
anyway was like out there on Thursday. It is one
of those I can't wait. Is it the following Thursday
we get the Cardinals practice here, right, yep, that's the
last day for fans, by the way, I believe, Well,
that'll be that'll be good. That'll be good. So I'm
(13:51):
very excited about that. All right, So we've got the
contract extensions in the books, for Zach Allen and Courtland Sudden.
He said he made mention that Nick Benito would be
the next up. How soon do you think that becomes
a reality. Are we talking this year? Do you think
could this be one of those Derek Wolf slash Chris
Harris ones where if the deal is the right number
(14:12):
and both sides feel good, we see it more late
in the year. What do you think the timeline is
gonna be?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well, I think the number is dependent on things that
aren't happening here.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Mark Micah Parsons in particular.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, I mean if you're and Sean Payton has alluded
to this too, that you know, if you do a
deal early, there is potential you're leaving money on the table.
And if you're an edge rusher right now, and unless
they ring your chimes like the Steelers did for wat
or the Browns did for Miles Garrett. Now Benito isn't
(14:47):
quite in that tier, but that that tier sets the bar,
you know, the money for everyone else. And until Parsons,
you know, everyone assumes whatever Parsons gets from whatever team
is going to give it to them, it will be
the bar for edge rushers, you know, right now, And
(15:07):
I think if you're Benito and his representatives, you're gonna
want to know where that bar is and know how
close the Broncos will bring you to it. And I
think that's part of it. So if if they're gonna
get it done, you know, sooner, I think they're just
gonna have to convince him and his folks that the numbers. Look,
(15:30):
this is what the number is going to be later.
You know, it's good enough. But they've had good you know,
not luck, but they're they're doing well. I think the
players believe. I mean that you're practicing and you're looking
at them building what will be the palace in the
NFL of facilities. They spend money on whatever they need,
(15:55):
whether it's scouting, you know it, equipment, whatever, hiring any people.
You know, they are doing it at a rate that
the players notice how it's going here. So, uh, you know,
Sean Payton calls those things jump balls. You know, do
you win the jump balls? And contract negotiations. They're going
(16:17):
to win an awful lot of those because of what
they're doing and how they're doing it. So I give
them a good chance to get Benito locked up. I
think the timing is how much everybody can agree, Okay,
the number, this number is really good, and it would
be really good if Parsons signs or not or that
type of thing. But they want them, and I think
(16:38):
players have no they're poised for good things if if
everybody stays healthy and all of that.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You just said something interesting there. Didn't mean to get
into this this quickly, But since you touched on it,
do you believe there's a chance Michael Parsons is not
a Dallas cowboy or is this just more of the
cowboy nonsense to dominate the training camp shows until we
get to the regular season and then sign him.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Tough with the Cowboys because he I mean, everybody I
know in the league who knows them well. And then
in my experiences of talking to him have been he
likes the attention. He almost likes the attention more than
you know. It out weighs whatever drama it's creating. I mean,
he's I don't know, folks. Remember when Bill Veck ran
(17:22):
the Chicago White Sox and some other sports teams. You know,
he like, the White Sox played in shorts one game
because Bill Veck thought it was a you know, a
funny idea.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
It was great to everybody.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, talking about you do it for one game, but
you get all the buzz. And Jerry Jones lives for
the Dallas Cowboys to be at the front burner of
everybody's conversations, and whether he would admit that or not,
that's how he conducts business. And he did it with
Dak Prescott. He's done it with every major contract negotiates.
(17:57):
Even Zach Martin, the offensive line they signed twice. He
did the same thing. So this is not a shock.
But right now, you know, every year they don't win.
Every year, it makes that look like a not a
very good strategy. And the people I know, and I
(18:17):
think I've said that on this on your show, is
they believe the Cowboys have picked the wrong player and
the wrong agent this time, that this is a different deal,
and that they should understand that this is a different
this is a different deal. Yeah, I yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
There's something about Michael Parsons. Remember this guy has been
known to, you know, get a little upset about things
in the past before. I just don't I could see
him being the one that says no, I say goodbye
to you, and I meant it. But he is a
camp right now for whatever that's worth.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
No, you can't. It's fifty grand a day now. I mean,
they've made the fine system, so you can stay away,
but you're you're paying that money, you know. I think
because he on a rookie deal, I think it can
be rescinded in some fashion, but that would take a
contract being done. So well, you're paying that money. If
(19:09):
if you sit out and you move on, you're paying
that money.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, that's uh, that's really easy. We can move on
from the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I yeah, yeah, he's the best, one of the best
defensive players in the league. Why would you do that?
I mean, I don't get it, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Because he needs something for them to talk about other
than his They have not made it past the divisional
rounds since nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I mean, can we just say what they're doing isn't working? Well,
not only that you.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Fired the coach that got you there. It was almost
like one of those college things right where he was
lucky to get Switzer in there, and Switzer wrote his
Last Good Crew basically assembled by Jimmy Johnson and the
brain trust there, and he let Switzer coach that group
to one more championships. So I guess good for.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You, but we wouldn't. We wouldn't tolerat it or elevate
that team. If we just covered up the team name
and you said, this team hasn't made it past the
divisional rounds since ninety five and they've missed the playoffs
in over half the season since, then, would you say
that's a good franchise. You would say, you would say
that GM, You would say Franchise X is not a
(20:11):
good franchise. And then you do uncover the name and
it's it's a Dallas.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Well, what a shock? Right, what a shock? All right,
let's get back to the Denver Broncos. I did want
to ask you about the run game. I think it's
been fun to watch. You know, first off, let me
ask you this because there seems to be some debate.
I know that Rodrick Estimate has had a couple of
moments there last week, But for the most part, I
just I feel like whenever I look at the Backs
and they get into something serious, it's Dobbins and then RJ. Harvey,
(20:37):
and then we just watched Blake Watson's at a moment.
Julia McLoughlin always seems to do something that keeps him
in any interest.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
And he's the he's the speed guy, right He's the
guy Sean has called the change of pace back. Okay,
I think he would be the third back right now
if you were stacking him. I think four make it
unless there's some.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Kind of including Burton.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
No, okay, I'm saying four running backs will make those sure,
I believe. Uh, you know, that could always change and
all that. I get it, But I think right now
you're trying to decide who's the fourth back, you know,
of the group? Can you know, are they going to
keep estimate and see what he can be as a player.
(21:18):
I think that's the player who I think has a
lot of potential and you know, are we going to
see it here? You know, I don't know that, but
I think right now Julia mcgoughlin to me is lining
up and playing snaps like he's the third back in
the mix. And that, Yeah, almost every snap with the starters,
(21:41):
when they're seriously in an offensive side of the you know,
sometimes you get fooled because it's a defensive drill and
if you chart in the offense, you're going to be
making a mistake because at that moment in practice, it's
a defensive drill. So when they've been in the offensive
side of things, it's been almost always Dobbins and Harvey
(22:02):
with the starters.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Well, uh, a text from Ron and you know what
I think. Next segment when we get there, get your
texts coming in. If you've got a question for Jeff
what he's seen, A camp who you want to know
about three oh three, five oh four O nine to
two five, you can send that off to our text line. Uh,
that's the shot mas. The text line one price, one person,
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(22:24):
two five and coming up at forty five. We'll read
your text and get something. Get you have to answer
some of your camp questions as to what he's seen,
because again, not as many people can go out there
as we've seen in the past. Ron, though, does write
this in because I have I bring this up because
I've heard some Bronco fans say this, Why not trade
Parsons and include Benito and maybe a first round pick
(22:44):
or what would you do with the Broncos? Why? I mean,
if you've got Benito, do you need to trade for Parsons.
I don't want to disrespect Parsons because I know how
good he is, but it feels like Nick Benito's pretty
darn good himself.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I think in this Steve, I mean, you know, any
team would love to have persons playing for it because
he you know, we think of him as an edge rusher,
but he could play inside linebacker. He can play a
lot of different things in your defense and take multiple
first rounders to get When I talked to you know,
(23:17):
I threw that out to a couple of pro personnel
guys and gms in the last couple of weeks that
you know, the feeling is it would take like multiple
first rounders, multiple players, and then you gotta pay him.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well, that's just as we start talking about extensions and whatnot,
Like you'd like to get Benito done. But even if
they get Benito done, I don't know, we'll see what
Mims turns into. But you sort of got to kind
of keep things ready for if Bo deserves the top
ten contra. You gotta be five contract, right.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
You gotta be ready for Bo to get the the
big boy, the nine digit, the big nine deal. Yeah,
and you know, if he's a starter for four playoff teams,
you know, in the fifth year option, that's the year
you start talking about it, you know, probably the year
(24:06):
before that, you know, year four of the you're four
of the deal, you'd probably start if they're still succeeding
and he's still playing, well, that's kind of the year.
But it's that's gonna be the nine digit jumbo one.
That's why I think Sean Payton is so intent on
talking about this team as being super Bowl worthy, because
(24:27):
when you have a starting quarterback on a rookie deal,
there is no better window in the league to win
a super Bowl than that time.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Okay, could they make trades to augment this if they
needed to, And again I'll just throw out the name
like a Terry McLaurin, if a Terry McLaurin thing. Get
First off, do you think both those teams like.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
What I think Terry McLaurin is Courtland Sutton in my mind? Okay,
if you're innerchanging, now you got two of those and
you don't need to it. And I'm not sure you
need two of those and they're both roughly the same age,
and you know what I mean. You know, I think
the issue McLaurin and you know, I've talked to some
people there. I'm not as deep into that as I
(25:06):
could be. But I think some of the issue is
the age he'll be at the end of the deal,
and they're, you know, that's what they're trying to figure out.
He obviously wants to get paid, you know, like any player,
but from the team perspective, they're trying to figure out,
what's this look like two years from now?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
All Right, I'm kind of curious because you know, look,
I think they've got to you know, the deal that's
kind of the quiet quirky.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Maybe we don't care, maybe we do. Is Wattenberg Okay,
you know he's surrounded by high rent district. In that
offensive line, I mean, the two tackles are on fairly
large deals. The two guards are on fairly large deals
in terms of where they fit in the league. So
you have four guys in the offensive line who are
(25:51):
paid among the best.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So would you try to sneak in a cheaper deal.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
No, he's coming up for free agency, he's on his
rookie deal. He's almost done with his rookie deal.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
That's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And why and knowing we I don't think any of
us have mentioned that, but I mean, he's he's gonna
and he's not a first round pick, so there's no
fifth year option or any of that stuff. So he's
that's one they're gonna have to think about. Now, you know,
that's not going to move the needle, you know, in
the in the universe of talk and typing, you know
(26:23):
where I live, But camp wise, you know, that's that's
something you'd have to think about. Do you want five players,
you know, getting premium money in the offensive line? Now
that might be one place you could do that, but
you know, that's that's he He will have been a
multi year starter on a on a successful team. He
(26:44):
would get some he would get some coin in the market.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That's interesting. Look, I've said it. I could see if
they go to pay him or maybe Paul Cheski takes
over for uh for.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
But I'm just saying it's it's kind of funny that
that guy he is. He's like the the uh you know,
the regular house on the street where everyone's decided to
scrape them off and build the huge one.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
She passed in the expensive neighborhood. Yeah, he's He's what
we see when you're driving what I called North Denver,
but people call the highlights. So all right, it looks
like they've got a good group of running backs. But
do you think and I like Dobbins, I like Harvey.
We'll see how the other two man h kind of
work themselves out, as you talked about. But is this
gonna be the year where Sean actually dedicates himself to
(27:30):
the run?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
You know, I know, we'll keep that's the question that
he keeps talking about it. They keep hearing it. They've
spent an awful lot of time in the off season
tweaking their run game a little bit. They've they've given
this so much of their attention, and we still don't
know if in October week whatever, when push comes to shove,
(27:54):
is that part of the play card just gonna get used?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, just get ignored. We don't know with to run
the ball on the back of it famously.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Or the other I guess we didn't see it or
where it said or don't on the other side. I
just made that up.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
By the way, you think Caleb Lowner is working his
way in, I know that you said he's a refinement
and a project, and I see.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
That at times.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You can see why they picked him though, But has
he done enough where you can't practice squad this guy.
I'm wasn't Peyton talking about that.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I think he will do something in the preseason that
will make that a tough decision. I mean he's gonna
I think he will snatch a ball, you know, late
in the preseason game, and it'll be some poor third
string safety who will look like a small child when
he catches it and he rips the ball. But he
there's a lot of potential there. I'm certainly intrigued by it,
(28:46):
just on a you know, I like that sort of
part of scouting is seeing what will a guy be
a couple of years from now?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
All right, three h three five four oh nine two five.
If you want to get some questions going for Leggy,
we've already got one. It's thrown in here, and they
want to know what's the weakest position group on offense,
defense and special teams? And why what would you make
what is the most what's there isn't Although now the
linebackers don't get healthy.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Big drop off, you know, I think the drop off
at tackle. I think the starting tackles are you know,
obviously proven. I like Polk though, yeah, I think Paulski
at right, you know, would would he have to do
a little more wrestling at left tackle if he had
to go in there or something, you know, that could
be a little more of a push. But you know,
(29:39):
and he is sort of the depth I think they
I think that's why they signer Matt Purt again is
because he can be the swing guy. He can play
both sides, and he's functional in a game and all
those things. But they have places where they're thin er
than other places. But I don't know that they have
a weakness. They a glaring like there's not even really
(30:03):
a a positional competition. I mean, we talk about running back,
but we're talking about carries. We're not talking about this
guy or this guy. You know, there isn't a lot
of that. I mean, there's really good you know, like
at Nickel, is it gonna be a highly touted rookie
(30:24):
you love who you couldn't believe was on the board,
or is it gonna be a guy who you said
was a Pro Bowl caliber player last year. I mean,
that's that's kind of where they're at right now.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Well, I'll tell you that talented rookie. In the two
minute drill, Jade Barn came screaming in on a blitz
and that play had no chance today.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
But they you know, I think, you know, weakness for
them is is, you know, like anybody who wins it,
can you overcome the injuries you face. That's the you
know what their weakness. But they don't have a glaring
hole on the roster where you're like, okay, this is
a playoff team and at this position, they don't have
(31:03):
a playoff worthy player. They don't have any of them.
And I know we all don't. If he shanks one
of those from his own five, you know that's gonna be.
He's had some moments. He's had some moments where you're like, Okay,
that thing's in orbit and I hope the International Space
Station enjoys it as it goes by. But and he's
(31:26):
also had somewhere I thought it was like a mistake,
you know, like he was facing the wrong way or something.
But that that could that could be a real issue, honestly,
in a game, in a tight game where field position
is everything, you know, you can't have those And they're
(31:47):
still happening, you know, once or twice a practice. Well,
but that the talent, the potential talent is is silly.
I mean, when he really hits it. It's a different sound.
I know people may not care, but you know when
a guy punts the ball or kicks the ball, but
you care what flips the field? When it when the
guys who have real power do it, there is a
(32:09):
different sort of sound you hear, Like when Mason Crosby
was at the Senior I always tell the story when
Mason Crosby was at the Senior Bowl. I didn't have
to be facing the field to know he was kicking,
because it just sounds different. Different.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
He is Jeff Lagwald. He's here to answer your questions.
We've got a few coming in. Keep him coming. Three
oh three, five oh four, oh nine, two five, We're
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Speaker 2 (33:03):
It is correctman to lindehl Andy Lindahl, Jeff Legwald here
with you for this hour. Jeff will be back with
this Friday to fill you in on all we're gonna
miss with them all over the place. So they're gonna
be in San Francisco. We won't all be there, but
we'll watch the practices from afar.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Well.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I guess we'll get I guess we'll get Twitter updates
as best we can. Not sure what the policies out
there are gonna be, but Jeff's gonna give us the
intel when he returns on Friday. By the way, I
do like this question from a text best food, best
food city in the NFL. Now, you're a little strict
with your diets, so I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
It's interesting that I think it's what you like.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, like you know, if you're pizza fans, listen, man,
Chicago's tough to beat.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Chicago's tough to beat. And in France got I will
say Chicago is so much better than it was when
I was a kid. It was it was pretty narrow
lane when I was a kid. They did it great
but it was you know, if you said, you know,
can I have this, they'd look at you sideways. But
(34:03):
now that's a downtown is rocking. But I think, uh,
I'm trying to think what would be my favorite. I
like Chicago a lot, not just because I grew up there, but.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
No, I'm saying that this guy, you can get a
great burger there. You get food, They got a great steak,
they got a course. All the miamis underrated. I was
gonna say, Miami. Miami's we found some some Latino uh trucks,
food trucks that were outstaks, No you can, and the
people were incredibly friendly, by the way, I mean incredibly friendly.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
That would probably be my one two in my experience.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Like Dallas, Like you know, you go to Texas, you're
gonna find a good steak if you like, you know,
if you go to Seattle. Seattle's got some of those
restaurants off the pier right from the Pacific that can
be fun.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Seattle to a good spot.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, Seattle can be a lot of fun. What I like,
to your point is the places that have variety and
not just like you go to Philly, you gotta get
a cheese dag whatever. But there's these other cities. There's
a great variety.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
So anyway, I'm real big and I'm finding the family
run places. That's where the that's where the real action is.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I'm telling you we did that in San Diego. I
think Spring went to a couple of them too. There's
a place called City Tacos. It was amazing. I'd like
to get them here and put them up against some
of our.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
But you know who the true food kind of sewers
are in the football world are scouts.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Well there you go.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
So I will always text my scout friends and say, hey,
I'm gonna be you know, whatever city I'm going to
give me your I always say, give me your podium,
you know, gold, silver, bronze, give me your podium. And
they'll send me three choices, and more often than not,
you know, one of them will be awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
We got a lot of texts. I'm gonna get to
last point on the food. You know, A J and
I Alan Jackson, who produced the Bronco Games, and I
was across the street he we stumbled into a sandwich
shop in Seattle, which you would have thought was like
the total Burke book nerd shop.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
It turns out they had a bunch of sandwiches name
for some of the Seattle players, including one of the
defensive tackles. So it was fun. It's fun when you
find little places like that. All right, Yeah, I'm gonna try.
We've had about three texts, and I understand it because
I like this player too. What do you think the
situation with Chris Abram's drain is?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
You know, I just caught caught in the crowd. He's
a much better player of this camp than he was.
I mean, you can see the progress he's made. He's
too good to let go. I see him as sort
of being the final corner. You know, if they keep
five corners, I think he's the the fifth corner. I
(36:40):
like him as a player. He's on a lot of
other special teams units, so that always tells me. You know,
if you go to practice and you don't watch special teams,
you're sort of missing the last ten roster spots there
if you pay attention to who's on the first team
in those groups. But I like him. I think that's
a guy. If you let go, you're going to be
(37:02):
disappointed two years from now. See, I'm with you you did.
I think Estimate is that player too, But that's just me.
That's just my little personal opinion. Yeah yeah, yeah, but
I think Estimate has got it. I like him as
a player. I think there's so much there that we
haven't seen yet.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Part of me just wonders, he's just got to get
his confidence and do his thing, you know what I mean,
which I know sometimes running back struggle with Okay, Texter
says this from Chris and Arvad. A lot of talk
about Sutton MIM's brand, but not much about Franklin. Does
he fit anywhere in the offense. Honestly, I'm not a fan,
so good. If not, thanks well, the head coach is
a fan. That's one thing. In the quarterback who's a
(37:37):
former college teammate as well, so he's comfortable throwing him
the ball. I think what he's missing is the diversity
in this game. The things he does, he does pretty well,
and he's been more physical off the line of scrimmage,
and if he's gonna have a bigger role in the offense,
that has to keep advancing because right now, unlike these
(38:02):
other guys, Bryant is physical. The line of scrimmage can
get the release against anybody. Sutton, one of the most
physical guys in the league, can get the release against anybody.
Mims is a punt returner. He is comfortable with people
being right up in his face and still getting the
ball because that's when you're a returner. You're never in
(38:23):
the open field, you know, especially a punt returner, you're
catching the ball in a tunnel of doom. But that's
the part of Franklin's game. He's much better this year
than he was last year coming into the league because
corners are tough and big and physical, and you know,
(38:44):
when they put their hands on him, he got frustrated
and couldn't get into the route. And it doesn't make
He's one of the fastest guys on the team, but
it doesn't matter if you can't get into the space
to use your speed. So that'll be the determining factor
of if he is more than just the deep ball
guy in the offense. Is how he advances that. All right, here,
(39:06):
here's another texter. Don't have the name on this one.
I have the name if you feel free if you'd
like two would like to know what we're talking to.
But it says what are the chances of the Broncos
ever take the Chiefs in the regular season this year
and somehow end up with home field for the playoffs
and that scenario, can you see the Broncos perhaps making
it to the Super Bowl. I just can't see this
happening unless the Chiefs are beaten by the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Well, just the You're gonna have to beat the Chiefs
if you want home field. I mean, you're not in
the running for home field if you haven't won your division,
you know, And I think for the Broncos to even
be in the running for home field, But look at
what you know. I keep saying it that the AFC
is a cat fight, unlike I mean, how much better
(39:49):
is it to be in the NFC right now? And
I know that stuff goes in cycles, but I just
look at the quality of quarterbacking for the good teams
in the AFC. I mean, Joe burn had one of
we don't talk about it, but he had one of
the historical seasons last year in terms of production, and
he did not play a playoff game. I mean, I'm
(40:11):
not sure. I'm not sure a quarterback can play any
better than Joe Burrow did. Other than Manning in thirteen,
which is another level of quarterback, and Brady some of
those years. But in you know, in the league right now,
I'm not sure anybody could play any better than Joe
Burrow did last year. He didn't make the playoffs in
the AFC. Uh. So that's the Broncos problem. I mean,
(40:34):
it's why home field is going to be so important.
But we all keep talking about the Chiefs are going
to slide back, and then what it's to look like
at the end of the year. I mean, last year's
the ultimate. There was like almost no metric on offense
where the Chiefs finished good yards per play air yard.
I mean, everything statistically mathematically looked just blah except the
(41:00):
fifteen And then you look at the standings and there
they are because because this guy, their guy is as
close to Brady, like, keep me in the game until
the two minutes and then I'll just get the score
and we'll all go home and talk about what an
ugly win it was.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
All right, mattin Date wants to know, is anyone in
camp surprise you by far? Anyone just period?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
You know the guy I'm and this is my little
scouting nerd hat when I put it on and you've
seen it many times. But there's a receiver I hope
they keep and just look joa Quen Davis. Yeah, that guy.
That guy isn't because when I looked at him coming
into the draft, I was like, man, that is an
(41:46):
NFL something. But the route tree wasn't awesome and the
offense wasn't you know, there was just a lot to
do there. But from a pure scouting perspective, I want
to see what that guy he looks like two years
from now because he's big and fast and uh sudden
(42:07):
and just wiry and in traffic he's got body control.
It's just really really raw. All right, I gotta ask
you this, that would be my guy.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I like him too, and I noticed it like he
stood out to me for this.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
I'm big, dude. He's got to be six four and change.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
And well the first ota I saw, I saw eighty
and I'm like, yeah, is that a tight end?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
A minute?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
That's a receiver.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
This is there's no room for him. You know, I
get it, there's not going to be a surprise, But
then don't play him and stuff peck. I would be
very stunned if he's getting very significant snaps. Yeah that
third preseason. All right, this is a fair text.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
There's been a lot of cool aid rainbows and jab reports.
Are the Broncos actually gonna be good? Or are we
getting gas lit and overhit over hyped.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's hard not to get over hyped. And I mean,
look at Twitter ball against air, what a great brawl.
I hate that stuff. I hate it. Stop listening to it.
But we do believe there's a good team here, right. Defense,
the defense is has the potential to be really, really good.
(43:20):
If they you got to handle your business because it's
hard to play defense in today's NFL. The rule book
is stacked against you. The quarterback play top to bottom
has never been more efficient. I don't know, it's not
more talented, but people are more efficient than they've ever been,
getting completions and first downs and eight yards and it's
(43:42):
never been more efficient in the league. So it's hard
to play defense and be great at it. Well. But
this group green Law and Hufanga, if they play fourteen, fifteen,
sixteen games, you know, anywhere from fourteen to seventeen games
in a regular season, if they have their eleven on
the field, it's hard for me to believe that they
(44:04):
have any blips like Cleveland or Baltimore. I mean, they're
gonna be a problem for people, all right.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
What I would also tell this texture is and defense travels.
Defense travels. But I would also say this, and I'm
gonna keep saying.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
It, but offensively, I think the jury is out.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
But listen, I think they could win ten games. That
would not be an improvement from the total last year.
But to me, you would say those are better quality
wins than the ten they got last year. Because at
this point, and it always changes, there's always two teams
that are better than we thought and two teams that
suck more than we thought.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
But they gotta get to Halloween healthy and be in
the mix. Now, you're right, they can't. They can't start
one in four.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
And the trick to that is gonna be you go
to Philly, then you go play in London against the Jets,
and then you come back here without a buy and
play another game. You gotta survive some travel.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
You gotta handle. They gotta get to Halloween.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Say it, got to handle your business.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
They got to be beefy by Halloween.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
All right, there we go, by the way, worst NFL
city for food people throughout New Orleans for a good one,
and I agree. Worst NFL city to me, it's gotta
be Cincinnati. Cincinnati sucks. I went to Cincinnati, like, man,
what do you have here that's worth the tough one?
Because they put that, you know, spaghetti on the that
doesn't look appetizing me. I realize it's just more of
a savory versus sweet. Yeah. I don't care about your chili.
(45:23):
I don't want your dog, I don't any of that.
Screw you, Cincinnati. I love your football, frank yeah, but
I don't love money.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
So all right, Jeff, thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
He'll be back Friday Springs, bringing the high five next
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