00:00 High Five.
18:30 Spring is with Andy talking Broncos and a little Rockies.
34:45 Shedeur Sanders and the Browns.
18:30 Spring is with Andy talking Broncos and a little Rockies.
34:45 Shedeur Sanders and the Browns.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's the final hour of the Krakman and Lindahl Show
on Monday, August fourth, which means we are so much
closer to having Monday Night Football.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Think goodness. Anyway, I hope you're having a great one.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I know the kids are a couple of weeks away,
as some people's kids getting ready to go back real soon.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Either way, hope you soak up the rest of summer
and enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It is the high five. Our man, Mark Springer's back
in the house. Let's do this thing. It was interesting
because Jesse kind of liked the hard high five. I'm
not sure Alan Baka loved the high five. Because Mark
told me perfectly how this was gonna go. Mark said,
before you left, He goes, I know you haven't worked
with Baca before, but here's what's gonna happen. He's gonna
put a bunch of cool stuff up on the screen
behind you, and he's gonna.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Try not to talk. And that's exactly what happened till
the high five.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Baca is a cool dude. He's a funny dude.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Did a fantastic job. He's very good at his work.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, no, he's great.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
But he's one of the two radio people that does
not want to be on it.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
He doesn't talk on air much.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We had fun with both of them. We had fun
with both of them.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
That's great, that's great, thanks to both.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
We always love when the ogs come on.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I'm the best at this. I'm day one.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
That's right, you are day one. You might have created
the segment that created a thousand segments.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
To be honest with you, all right.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Let's do that high five. Andy. So I was out
last week, but I would I would check Twitter, and
I saw people tweeting up. Oh I was throwing some picks. Finally,
Oh no, bo Nix is throwing some interceptions. And I
guess he threw another one or two today. You were
out there, Andy, he did.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I mean, you know, listen, I I want to see
the guy. I want to see the guy try some
things I really do, and some of it's gonna work
into the answer you're about to play.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'm not angry. I'm not angry about it. You know
this is.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
That's how it goes.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, look, you don't want to see him repeated necessarily,
I'll give you that, But.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
You don't want to hurricane of interceptions. Here Sean Payton
being asked about both throwing some picks today.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Yeah, look, we're charting picks here like hurricanes. So he's
doing fine.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
What is this a category one? Do a category five
on the hurricanes scale?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, see, here was the thing, and I thought, like,
I think people got a little too fired up about
the fact that so you missed it. Last week he
had not thrown any picks and that's all people started
talking about it. But again, but they were in controlled settings,
as Jeff talked about, you know, Bo made the right
decisions and look Bo scrambled out. He's made plays happen
when it looked like nothing was there. He's found receivers
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over the middle. He's been quick to try to get
something out of a play instead of just chucking the
ball out of bounds. I haven't really had a major
problem with Bo's camp.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
The reality is the offense is not doing great against
that first team defense. That's just a fact. But there's
a lineage, there's just all sorts of reasons, a bushel
of reasons as to why this happens, including the dB
and head of the O. And now Bo's tried a
couple throws that he's probably gonna you know what, here's
what Bo's got to avoid. Here's what I would say.
The message to Bo probably should be is these picks
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have come when you've tried to kind of force it
to Sutton. So let's not do that come regular season.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
But today, But this is when you this is when
you try things right, This is when you dabble, This
is when you take chances because it doesn't matter. These
aren't games. You kind of alluded to it right there.
When I was hosting with Nate recently, I asked him
before camp started, I said, and you know me, and
I'm very high on the Broncos was before training camp started.
That has not changed despite a handful of bow Nick's interceptions. Okay,
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but I asked Nan, I was like, do you think,
because this Broncos defense is top three, if not the
best defense in the NFL, and with this offense going
up against that in camp, that if Bo struggles, if
the offense struggles, people will overreact. But forget that they're
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going up against a top three, if not the best
defense in the NFL. So I view this as some
sort of iron sharpening iron. When Bo and this offense
goes up against the Tennessee Titans in Week one, they're
gonna be like, oh, oh, that was a good, you know,
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crash course that we got against our own defense. This
is a cake walk compared to that.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, I mean, look, you need these things figured out
by the time you face a Philadelphia that has a
great defense, you know, going into Washington, those are two
road games. Houston's got a pretty good defense. These are
the games you need to get this stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Figured out for right.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I would like at some point towards the end of
camp or you know whatever, whenever we see it, maybe
in a camp technically camp's done in another week. By
the time we get to the end of the preseason,
i'd like to see them have a little but a
success against the ones, more than they're having now. But again,
you laid it out, We've talked about it on the show.
The offense is not as far along in its evolution
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as the defense is from where they were when Sean
Payton took over. That's just how it is. I think
they're a playmaker shorts somewhere. I'd love to see a
true playmaker that requires double coverage E merge and who knows,
maybe Evan Ingram will be that guy, you know, But
I think until they get that, I don't think this
offense will be on the level of the defense, who
has the defensive Player of the Year and a whole
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slew of pass rushers. So it just is what it is, right,
Like you said, hopefully this is gonna make them better.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I fine, let's talk about Jaquon macmillan. Andy, I'm a
huge Jaquon macmillan fan. Let's hear from both Sean Payton
and j mack. Somebody called himself. We'll hear it in
a second. Actually, yeah, j Mack. Sean Payton on how
Jaquon is doing with the slot cornerback battle with Jaday Baron.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
A competition between him.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
He's doing He's doing well. Yeah. J Kwon, he's doing well.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Well, you got him on the podium. I just he's
doing well.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Reporter called him Jaikwan.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, he's about to come up. Let's get his name right.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And he's doing well. All right, thanks for asking, uh
ja Kwon McMillan himself. Does competition drive him to be better?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I'm always competing. That's every year with me.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
J mac gonna be J Mack. I'm the same guy
I was back on twenty twenty two when I first
got here. I just come out here and compete each
and every day, and they try to get better and
we I think we're trying to do that as a
group and everybody's getting better by it.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
J mac gonna be J Mack. I love.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
That kind of reminded me.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Who's there's those memes or those little funny cartoons that
walk around the guy yells, what is it?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Leroy Jenkins? Yeah, I see that's that's what that kind
of reminded me of.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
So confidence.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Jaquan McMillan, I think is going to be a big
part of this thing. I really do.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I think people, you know, I did d Max got
a little bit of going on, but not totally. But again,
I think people think that, you know, John A. Barn's
here to replace people. He's here to strengthen the position.
I don't think Jay Kwan McMillan's going anywhere now. You know,
you get to the trade deadline, you may need something else.
Ja Kwon might be the guy that they're asking for,
and ultimately, I don't know if they can pay him
and keep him there.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
It depends.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I love how deep this I'd said it last week
Spring people can't forget the No Flies one win his
deepest cave on Webster.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
They're dining back.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I remember how good that guy was for what he
was asked to do. He wasn't going to be your starter,
but you start getting him going against fourth and fifth receivers.
That's been a problem, man, So don't It's great how
much depth they've had period.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I wouldn't sacrifice the depth unless injuries. Really yeah, build
up elsewhere, but you know, the depth allows them to
rotate guys and keep them fresher, so fresher legs, and
not only game to game, but as the season goes along,
you'll you'll be even fresher if you're getting spelled more
down to down if there's more rotation going on. And
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jakek one is, he's a freaking baller, dude. He that
interception he had to ice the Browns game on Thursday night.
I mean, the depth at this cornerback position is insane.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It is, and it's good because you're gonna need it.
Corners see.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Gets hurt. What if one of the corners gets hurt.
We saw Riley Moss get hurt. Now you can just boom.
Joda goes to the outside. McMillan's firmly in the slot. Obviously,
I'm not wishing injury on Riley Moster, Patzer Tam, but
if that were to happen, or an injury to Baron
or McMillan himself, that's where the depth comes in handy
as well.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
No, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I'm with you one thousand percent Spring that it's the
bottom line is you're gonna lose, guys, and listen to me.
I'm not afraid to hear people have Super Bowl talk
about the Broncos. I'm not sure I'm fully on board yet,
but you know why, I could see its surprising us
because this defense could be good enough to get him
there Sistan eight last week. Don't tell me if this
defense is on the level of twenty fifteen. And they've
got a long way to go to prove that. But
if they prove that they are, don't tell me this
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offense isn't at least as good as what twenty fifteen had.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Zombie Peyton Manning, as Nate refers to him as, And
Brock was good, but he wasn't great, right, bo Nicks
can be that well, not just all. I don't have
DT in a manual, but but she.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Got sudden and you know what I mean again, if
we don't know what capable do we over glorify Brock Osweiler.
Bow's got much better than Brock. I would so it's
got a better skill set, Yeah, I would say so.
And it's his offense. It's been built around him.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Rock.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I I've got a soft spot in my heart for
Brock because we always had good conversations. And I think
Brock should have just stayed here. I wish if Brock
would ask me he didn't, I would have said, just stayed.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
He came on this show a year or two ago. Analyst,
So all right, man, j MA is gonna play. He's
gonna play a lot, all right. Sean Payton recently said
that this Broncos team is one of like seven teams
he's coached in his career that could win a Super Bowl.
He said, you know, the goal is to make the
playoffs once again, but this team could win a Super Bowl.
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Sean Payton was asked about that today.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Well, obviously it has to start with quarterback, it has
to start with defense, it has to start with offensive line.
Like there's certain things that if they're not on point,
it's hard to make a statement like that. But when
you look at some of these critical factors and look,
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I told them that, and I was now, that doesn't
mean that just means you have a chance. And then
I would say most importantly ownership, because there's a twenty
that each year have hope and dreams and they're dysfunctional
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at the top.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, well, listen, you go everything that you look at there,
we can all, you know, step back and be awed
by what they're building out there. It's going to be
an absolutely awesome building and you can tell it right now.
And it's amazing how much work it's done on the
daily out there of that new Bronco facility. It will
be the envy of every NFL owner when it's done.
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But at the end of the day, you know what
I noticed. I notice things like we have to go
and park up at the park at the soccer fields
to walk down because the construction is taking the traditional
lots away and you know what they've got up there.
They've got people to greet you. They make sure it's
been marked exactly the way you've got to walk, so
you know exactly where you have to go to training camp.
It's the details, it's not and this isn't just the media.
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This is so the fans know that where I go,
how I get to my seat. They've got the nice tents,
they've got the refreshments, they've got the they got this
all figured out. When ownership knows how to handle the details,
and this is the things we were wondering about. It's
great that they're so rich. They rich people that don't
do anything with their money. So he just refer to
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them with a lot of those owners. When you have
the details handled, like they've proven this camp, that's how
you know things are going right.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
In my mind, yeah, you know, Jerry Jones is Berry invested,
but he's got his hands everywhere the Penners let Peyton
and Peyton do their thing. That's a good thing right there.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's absolutely a good thing because just because you own
a team doesn't mean you know the.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Business of the sport how to pick the right players.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Could you imagine you know what I'm talking about. Could
you imagine if Greg Penner was, you know, doing the
Jerry Jones thing.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Jerry Jones thing. I just walked down to twenty of them, Blake,
I know they've been on the uptick anyway.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah, warming burn a bell Hell yeah, won that series
against the crap Pirates team. Let's hear from. Shadar Sanders
had a Browns training camp, so he missed a practice
recently with arms soreness, and he pulled himself out of practice.
He he He reported his own soreness even though he's
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in the middle of a four way quarterback competition. He
was back practicing today. He was asked about his father,
Dion Sanders, wanting to come to Brown's training camp, but
Shoulder saying no, don't come.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Yeah, I told him, Yeah, I told.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Him don't come.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And why did you say that?
Speaker 7 (13:16):
Because I mean, like I look, I look at it
at my own point of view, like I don't want
him coming to see me right now because I want
to I want to get to where I want to go.
Then for him to see me. I don't want him
to come and see me. You know, get a couple
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reps and you know he's cheering like a good dad, like, Nah,
you can't be proud of me right now. I gotta
get to where I'm going, and I know it's a
lot I gotta do to get there. So it's kind
of like I just want everything that I'm doing is
just like focus on this time. And I don't want
to know distractions because we know out the media, we
know how everybody will take it and take away from
the team just from him being my own dad showing up.
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So you know, it's a if then a curse at
the same time.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
There you go. You know what the right answer?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Spring was Like that answer, it's a very good answer.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
What else you gonna says?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Speeding tickets aside? That's a good answer.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
That's a great point. I forgot about those. Yeah, don't
speed anymore and don't have your dad out of camp
because you got a job to win.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
But you know, it's it's it's you know, a lot
of people's dads probably go see their kids, especially rookies.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
They can, for one, but if his dad goes, it's
a problem. Circus it is, and with fair or not.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
But guess what heavy is the crown?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You get a drive a Bugatti before anybody got to
their pro camp.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
So there's there's good things of being deonce too.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Browns are at the Panthers Friday night, five pm. That's
the Browns first preseason game. I mean, Shure is playing
in that thing, and I don't know how much. I
don't know when.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
They've been They haven't even given him first team reps
because first day, can't quit talking about it.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
But fourth quarter he's got to get in. Fourth quarter,
well you would think.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Listen, I think he's you do whatever you want to
do with Joe Flacco, because.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I know we're all Kenny Pickett hurt with Hey Bickotts hurt.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But I think I think she is better than both
Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Start.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I don't I think is better than Flacco. Is that
a crazy statement?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Sewich version of Joe Flacco shows up, Joe Flacco that
showed up to the Browns late in the season two
years ago and got into the playoffs and ed it
was good David and Joco playing like an All Pro.
That's a guy you at least give a shot to
the start of the season. But if it's I'll borrow
your term. If he's zombie Joe Flacco, as he tends
to be in some of these. If you get Joe
Flacco of the Colts last year, you don't know what
the heck's going on, And yeah, I don't know what
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you're doing with that.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Well, I'm excited to watch her play in the preseason.
You're gonna get moments. He's gonna have a moment in
the preseason.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I like the guy.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I think he could start. I think he's got to
be willing to learn. I think if he takes the coaching,
he could have a potential to be a starting NFL quarterback.
You know, I'm not going to predict much beyond that
he's got ice in his veins when it comes to
the key moments, and I think that's a big feature.
But again, you've got to prove to every bud you're
running an offense has been called and not doing what
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you want to out there, and those questions have been
going on all the way back to see you. So
if he can answer that, then I think he's got
a chance of doing something. And I think what he
said is important. I think it's good and I think
it shows that he does have some idea of what's
going on around and.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Which is great.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
So he's dealing with You know, he was in a
little bit of a cocoon when he was at CU
let's just call it what it was. But he was
also a star. He helped win them a lot of games,
and so good for him. But you're out of the
cocoon now. And that's that statement right there. Seems to
be he's aware that he's no longer in the same
quote unquote safe environment that he's been in.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I one day, will Dion will go to a Browns game?
Answered or starting.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It may be this season, quite honestly, Now beyond this season,
I don't know. They could fire Stefanski. It depends on
how bad it gets. I don't care what Haslin wants
to say. Jimmy Haslam out there saying I'm not all
in on Arch and I didn't tell the coaches to
draft you know, I didn't make anybody draft sheddo or
I'm not really buying a lot of any of it.
But okay, you can keep preaching it if you want,
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but I have no come on, most teams are gonna
want the first pick in the draft, whether it ends
up being Arch Manning when the college football season's all
said and done, or somebody else. You know, you have
your quarterback of the future. Maybe you get lucky and
it is Shador, but.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
You look at because the Browns are gonna be bad,
He'll get a look so that they can see what
they have.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I tend to agree with you, and we just gotta
We just got a tweet from Adam Schefter. But in order,
the Brown's depth chart is Flacco, Picket, Gabriel Sanders.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
And then that's the Yeah, they it's the pecking order
based on draft position. They're continuing to send a message
to Shuder Sanders that we don't want the circus, we
don't want the diva behavior. So you're fourth on the
depth chart. They're sending a message to him.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
They are, and so far he's received it and handled
it well. But now, look, it's all gonna ultimately if
sports are done the right way, which they aren't always,
but if they are, it's decided on the field, and
hopefully we'll see that during the preseason. That's the high
five to five biggest stories.
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It is Craikman and Lindahl, Andy Lyndall, Mark Springer taking
you the rest of the way. We'll back with you
tomorrow at three o'clock. So we've one more day of
practice to watch here in Denver and that comes our
way tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
There's not going to be I think the team.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
May be doing something, but there is no availability, and
I don't think they have to let us in on
Wednesday and then they get out of here and then
Thursday they have their joint practices. Friday the guys get
a day off or walkthroughs wherever they do it, and
then they play their first preseason game coming.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Up on Saturday night. So will it be worth watching?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Spring It's interesting because you know, Sean Payton did say
that he's gonna play his starters today.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I don't think I have a massive problem with this.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
But I feel like every year we fall back in
the debate, I should you play the starters or not?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Where are you hearing? Are there guys that you would
definitely sit out?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
What's Sean Payne's philosophy? He's a play the starters. He
always says like callous, like build the callous. Is he
a callous guy?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
He's a callous Well?
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Or was that fangio? Am I mixing my coach?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I think you're right. That might have been fans.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You here's our thing with Sean that's been weird. You
think after two years we have a feel. But the
first year he was dealing with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Now he did play.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Russ because he didn't care about Russ.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, he did that, but it was a new offense.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Was that last year we had this faulty quarterback competition
that wasn't he knew who he wanted all along unless
Bo just looked terrible.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It was a rookie. You gotta play him in the
in the preseason, get him in a and to that
same thing is second your quarterback.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
He needs he needs some looks. I'll give it to you.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
He needs a couple series ish in that ballpark.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Sure, I'll give him that, and if you want to
go a full quarter or whatever. See, here's what's trickier
about the preseason now is that you end up playing
only three games, and everybody, unless you play the Thursday
night game, gets two full weeks off before you play again.
It feels like forever. Might even be three weeks by
the time it's all said and done. But it feels
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like you get forever between that third preseason game and
the actual start of the regular season. So how much
rest is too much rest? I don't have a problem
with him playing the starters, and I will say, quite honestly,
after after what we've seen out of the offense getting
suffocated by what we believe is going to be a
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very good Denver defense, I think it would help them
to go a different and go against a different unit.
And like again, I still think the Niners will be
pretty good. Where I'll start to worry is if the
starters play against the Cardinals and don't make a little
hay here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Okay, you're at San Francisco, play a series. At least
I would.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, listen, I go, uh, you know, this is the
old Scott Hastings slash Mike Shanahan thing in Shanahan's day,
and even Kobiak did this a little bit. Get out there,
have a good series. Yeah, get off the field. Sure,
go about ten to eleven plays, score a touchdown, call
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it a night.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Okay, Week two August Saturday, August sixteenth, that's your only
home preseason game, so fans can't come out and not
see the ones for at least again a series.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I would say quarter.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I agree with you. I think that's the one. That's
your one, that's your home playoff game. Cardinals aren't great. Yeah,
I would go full first quarter. I think that's your
true mock preparation quarter.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
But see what's funny to me is it's easy to
talk this way now. The minute they hurt somebody, you
freak out. They're playing live life.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You really can't because they got to get ready to
play football.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Man. Yeah you know, okay, and then you know preseason finale,
you're in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah what what.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Sean Payton a big message center. Uh, that's in. They're
the worst team in the league, or one of I
think the worst. I think that's another series. At least
go show your Saints, your former sayings, Hey, look what
I got now.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
See I hate that. I hate that, terfying I'm not
playing them there.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Okay, interesting point, but then Andy, okay that now they
will have not August sixteenth through September seventh.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, it's almost a month. It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy,
but look they're not really. I mean to get two
full practices in and they've got a chance if they
want you to pad up, go full hard two hours
with the Niners, do the same thing again with the Cardinals.
Then you go and you play a couple of games
against them. You know, I guess to your point, if
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you you know Josh McDaniels, see, here's the problem. Here's
why I've seen this go sometimes. Josh McDaniels in particular,
did not like how his Running game looked in twenty ten,
if you remember, and they decided after signing Lindell White.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
That they would run him in that game.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
They also decided to play Ryan Harris to try to
prove a point. I'm sure Ryan's told the story either
here on air, you know, about how he had to
go play because you.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Know, they wanted to prove a point that the Running
game didn't stink and.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Both guys got hurt and you got off to a
terrible start that year.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So yeah, well, sometimes it's just Josh McDaniel's energy can
create that.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Oh, you're right.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I think the football guys hate him and they aren't
gonna allow him to succeed because of how you're doing it.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Had he reasons like that, whereas I think it's just
keep him in rhythm. A series that's I just on
us series, except I agree Cardinals first quarter, Cardinals first quarter, Diners,
Saints' first series.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I guess one series probably doesn't hurt. Although I remember
talking to Derek Wolf about this one year. I don't
know if Tyler's ever talked about it. I don't know
how the old lineman feel about this, but remember Derek
Wolf joined the show a couple of years ago the
Midday Show with Scottie and Ryan and Josh, and he
was talking about how much he hates the preseason where
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you get ready to get into that play a game
mentality and then you're in there for literally a series,
and it just he was like, what you know, because guys,
a lot of guys, especially when you do what Derek did,
got to go to a different place mentally.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
To go do that all the field and all that.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, possibly other thing.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Now you're being angry, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, I don't think a great mode if you will,
at least I don't imagine it's funny. I'm any offensive
lineman though that I've talked to that they don't attack
it that way. They're not so worried about getting in
the anger. They want to be more and the mental
just kind of the chillbro vibe.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Because as an offensive lineman, when you're when you're pass protecting,
you're you're working backwards well you know, I mean your zen. Yeah,
when you're the defensive line in the past rusher, you're
pushing forward, you got to go.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
You know where the target is. The target has the ball,
and you got to get there as.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Soon as you can, slapping your helmet, giving your your
own concussion.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You know what always threw me off. Were you ever
I don't know what sports you played. Were you ever
a pregame music guy? No, I mean to watch their
own but I get it though, I Yeah, But when
Jim Tracy dropped on us years ago, he was listening
to Selene Dion on his way.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
To the well he's the manager I know.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
And I get it. It's a cerebral man's game.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I guess if you're thinking with baseball, but still, you
know you're gonna be hit me with the Selene Dion
on your way?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
What what's you in the zone? Whatever you need to
do to get beyond?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
What zone are you looking to get into?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I don't know, man, Maybe that's maybe that's the thing.
Maybe it feels like date night music. That doesn't feel
like I go into a baseball I get it. Look,
if you want to be chill, that's fine. You want
some smooth seventies jazz.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Okay, what do you think Aaron Rodgers is listening to?
I mean, he's listening to you know, the flutes and like,
you know what that tribal music? What's that intro? The
digerido is what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
What about the monks? You remember when the monks were
real big? Are you too young for that? Because now
I think about it was probably two thousands.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
No, they had like the they had these monks.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That's Aaron Rodgers and then they try to Yeah that's
what he's listening to.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I'm telling you, everyone's different.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Man, set it to a club beat.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
All right, you mentioned Jim Tracy there. I do want
to I just won one Rockies thing real quick, Andy,
because I was on vacation last week.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Oh, you went to a couple of padres.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I did. Pods Man made a trade of one of
their best prospects for Mason Miller and JP Sears from
the West Sacramento Athletics. They're going all in, baby. But
I get back. I land at DI a like three
pm ish, and and you get on the train and
you hear Alan Roach's voice. But then you know there's
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like usually a player, maybe a local athlete, welcoming you
to Denver. Sure who should be welcoming me to Denver?
But Brenton Doyle, okay, And I'm like Brenton Doyle. He's like, Hi,
this is two time Gold Glove winner Brenton Doyle, Welcome
to Denver. And he says something about like go Rockies
(27:43):
or like enjoy Rockies baseball.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Well, in fairness, he had a walk.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
On, So I chuckle, I scoff, I'm like Brenton Doyle.
And then that that noight Doyle, noight?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
He hits the walk off home run.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
That's insane. I still can't believe they did that down
nine to nothing. Oh, I walked in.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
It was nine to nothing, like you said, bottom half
of the first They're down, and I'm just laughing, and
Hughson's doing the old well you got it, and you
can tell he's like chewing glass. You gotta just start
chipping away at this thing somehow, And sure enough they
found a way to do it. And I think the
rain delays certainly helped. But which athletes next? Is Bo Nicks?
(28:27):
Is bow Nicks is up for the train soon?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Right?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Oh? For sure? Bo for sure?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Or do you go Pats or ten? Because of his
dick of.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
These guys have already gotten that honor like Pat. I
don't know if Bo has yet. I mean, he was
just a rookie last year. He might not have had
that honor yet. But it's common. It's common.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Smooth Southern drawl, dude.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I saw Monday night Padres Game Great Game, Padres down
five to one Matt Mark Mark Fanto's HiT's a grand
slam to put the Pods up four five to one. Earlier,
Viento's was robbed in the same spot by Tatis is great.
Great freaking game. Pods come back and win electric energy.
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I'm leaving Petco met some dudes. We're going out. What
do I see? Right as I'm leaving Petco Park? I
see a dude in a bo Nicks jersey. It was
meant to be serendipitous destiny, but the fact that bo
Nix is his presence was felt in San Diego on
a on a late July night of Broncos. Country's back.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Oh it's back. It's going national again.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Mego international after we get done with this game over
in London.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
But yeah, that is what see.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I don't know how to feel about it because I
saw your post and I'm like, well again, it is
a it is a Bronco town.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
You mentioned that earlier in the show.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
IoT a Bronco fan, So I can't be shocked by
the Knicks jersey show Like.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
If I saw like a Jayden Daniels jersey, I mean,
because you know he's electric and not know bow Nicks.
It was just like even like a Caleb Williams jersey.
I know Caleb, but it just struck me to see
a bow Knicks jersey.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Scott wants to know, did you see in the La
Chargers jerseys at all?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
No, I did not.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
It's amazing because there was a fairly passionate fan base
for them out there. Yeah, and it's like, I get it,
they feel betrayed. A lot of people don't want to
hear about them.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Ever again, dude, they should have stayed. And I mean,
I get money and stadium and all that, but if
if you care about like like I think, fans help
you win.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Games, well I'm telling you this. I've said it forever.
The NFL should have just went ahead. They got enough
money collectively as an ownership group. You should have ponied
up the money to help do the stadium thing. However
you needed to do it. Spanos is cheaper in could
have could have pitched in for that as well. But
you should have built the building there because that is it.
That is a super Bowl city, is it not?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
That is great. It's not as absent died as like uh,
you know, La or other California cities. Not as congested.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
No, and they've got plenty of great things to go
and do.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I mean again, it's a and you know, as Scott
pointed out, Bronca is one of their first Super Bowl there,
so that doesn't hurt the fact that We're affectionate to it,
but serious, sir, that is a great place to go and.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Have the Super Bowl. By the way, what was the
best and worst spot you ended up in in San
Diego as far as eating?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Oh Man, best spot? Who men? Everywhere I went was good?
You you and Eric Robbers, one of our listeners, recommended
Mitch's Seafood, which is what right on like a dock
of one of these bays. Very good. It was very good.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I couldn't tell me you liked it or not by your review. No,
I really liked it. Just the coal slob was a
little dry, Okay, alright, so I couldn't give it full
points on a scale of sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
That's my sliding scale. I gave it a sixty eight. Yeah,
but the seafood was great. The fries were good. But
I gotta be I can't just give everyone five stars.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
No, I'm with you. Did you have a bad spot though?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, you went to a pizza place that we were
out there and you the beach called a surf side
pizza I think it was.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
We made sure we did not go back there.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Okay, well you were only there a few days. Oh,
last time you were there yeah, you didn't go back there.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So this time we found a place called Square Pizza,
which was off the charts great for Detroit.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Here's a dude, Okay, So, like if I go to
a new baseball stadium, I gotta try their hot dog,
Like this is the first I'll try your hot dog.
That's the classic, that's the staple.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Okay dog.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
What was the Friar Frank?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
The Friar Frank Okay?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Not good? Yeah, probably the worst ballpark dog I've had,
like so basic, so bland, nothing, Rocky dog's better. I've
had the Dodger dog, which isn't great, but that was better. Yeah,
Friar Frank, no good. I've been to d Backs games.
Their dog was better. Friar Frank, no good.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yeah, Friar Frank kinda.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Not a great name.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah. I don't like the name. The name's very off put.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Dude. Here's another thing you gotta be careful with that.
Here's another Denver related thing. So and I had seen
this going back a couple of years that the Padres
for for like I said, a couple of years, have
been playing all the small things at their games.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Well, and they get along as a resident and a
huge fan of.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
The team, But the Avs did it first.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I agree, I agree, But when Tom DeLong is a
regular season ticket holder, like off the first base line,
I think he's gonna get.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
A that's fair. But they stole that from the Abs.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
No, I agree. I feel like, all right, and dude,
I would like to see.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
The Avs bring it back. I don't know, am I
going again?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I got enough out of tanners out here. Television were wrong.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I feel like the ABS in general started to sing along. Well,
I guess I can't say that because the Red Sox
and Sweet Caroline.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I think there's been a few others that have, you know,
taken place elsewhere? Is it a coinn like the As
got away from it and they have not won a Cup?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Saying well but again, DJ triple t is he that
the year that it was the staple? The Cup year
you were whooping a lot of teams. You didn't have
results in doubt late in the game. We've unfortunately had
a little more nip and tuck situations down the stretch
than sure what we'd like to deal with. You don't
want him playing the song and then you blow the goal,
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which has happened a little too often. Let's be honest, no.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Two plus goal lead, probably even three five minutes to go,
shouldn't should have never gone away. I don't know what
I want to back Well.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Tweeted him. He listens to the show, tweeted, all right,
it'll be noted. We'll come back. Wrap this thing up.
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Speaker 2 (34:49):
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Speaker 3 (34:58):
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Speaker 4 (34:59):
Boss says we're working on it.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Boss says we're working on it.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
By the way, uh, I need the breaking news, Sanders Spring,
I wonder how this is gonna hit you. Doesn't affect
the Broncos, but it does affect some Colorado football fans.
The Browns have decided they're gonna make a move, and
they're they're listen to this signing, and of course they're
gonna get it off Wi Fi Browns are signing QB
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Tyler Snoop Huntley with Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel nursing
hamstring injuries, and Shadur Sanders with a sure sol sort shoulder.
Brown's another arm. According to uh Adam Schefter, this is interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I forgot that Tyler Huntley wanted to start going by Snoop.
I forgot about that. All right, what do you.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Make of this? Because should or did return to practice today?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Wasn't there somebody else who wanted to go by Snoop?
Either way, don't they just need a body? They just
need a body body that Snoop Huntley, That Tyler Huntley,
who we've seen uh with the Ravens, good quarterback. You know,
when Lamar would get hurt, you'd come in and win
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some games. I think he had a stint with the
Browns recently. But no, no, that's not an answer. It's
just because guys are hurt, they gotta get they gotta
they gotta look at Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, all right, I don't know, man, I just I
guess you gotta have three quarterbacks for this preseason game.
I suppose, but that may tell you that whenever. I'm
sure there I don't know who's open and when. This
is the week where you start giving getting Thursday, Friday,
Saturday night preseason games. I love it because I watch
them all and that's just how I passed my time
in August on the weekends. But because they'll just have
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weekends full of games. But seriously, this.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I I I just cannot get a vibe how they
feel about Shadoor out there in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
I really can't.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
You know, well, okay, you know I mentioned we talked
about in the high five. He's fourth on the depth chart.
Is he's fifth?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Now that's a.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Great question, now because did you say snow Puntley was
with them before? If he knows the offense and that
might put him ahead of Shador.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I think he will. After he left the Ravens. I
think his stop was the Browns and it was okay
well as a just practical did not make the team though,
But either way.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
But if he knows the offense and he can go in,
and this may be a situation where they don't want
to play Flacco in the first preseason game, so snow
Puntley gets the starts the start, I mean sure, I
guess these hamstrings aren't going to be healed in time
for the other two to play or be a factor.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Why would you sign this guy, I.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Would think so. Yeah, this means that Kenny Pickett and
Dylan Gabriel are not playing Friday night in Carolina against
the Panthers. And I'd mentioned that, you know, I think
the Browns are sending a message to Shoulduur, I think,
and I thought about it after the segment. I was like,
I think a better word would be humbling him. Okay,
I was just trying to humble this man. Do I
think he needs a lot of humbling? Actually know? But
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the league seems to think so. I don't like. I
see why. I understand their perspective. But real quick, before
your point, Andy, Okay, three quarterbacks. It'll be interesting to
see who gets in first Snoop Puntley or should Ur Sanders.
Who gets the reps after Flacco? And I don't think
Flaca will play long? So who comes in next Snoop
or Shadur? And then either way this means for sure
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that Shadur is going to get more playing time than
he otherwise would have the entire fourth quarter at least.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Okay, yeah, I'm not positive.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Part of me wonders, so I related this to Now
it's a little bit different situation, but I was talking
to a friend about what's going on in Cleveland out there,
and so, look, are they trying to manage the hype train?
Are they trying to manage the fan expectation? This felt
like a little t bosh to me early on, because
there are fans out there that are gonna want him
to play because of who he is, no matter what right,
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no matter what the depth chart says, no matter what
the practice reports say, they want to see Shid or Sanders.
Is the team trying to stop the inevitable? I don't
think they can control it, so don't hear me that way,
But it feels to me like a team that's trying
to control the hype train from getting on the on
the tracks by playing should or less for the public.
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Maybe not, maybe not, But you've already got four quarterbacks
in camp and now it's five.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
This is an interesting point from this texture because we
talked about this in the high five. How should he
missed the practice with a sore arm? This texter says,
how does Sanders have a sore shoulder while getting fourth
string reps.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Well, he self reported it, so.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
He said too that this would happen at CU. He
did say today that this would happen playing for the Buffs.
He would get a sore arm from time to time.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
All right.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I mean, look, it's a fair question. It doesn't eliminate
the Texters question, because trust me, if you tune into
ESPN every morning for either get up or first take,
they let you know every day what should where Sanders
didn't practice one way or another.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I mean, it is amazing. I knew there'd be hype
around the kid. I didn't expect this.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Like they've already pointed out, he's had no first team
reps so far, which is a little bit surprising that
this early in camp he doesn't get a.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Run with some ones.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I'm just telling you, either Cleveland doesn't like it and
doesn't want to cut him, which I'd be surprised by
because you drafted him in the fifth round, or they
don't want the hype train to get going.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I just don't. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
So the hype train could affect now, it would just
be noise. It depends on how noise the loud, or
how loud the noise would get but NFL team is
a proper.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
You don't want the distraction.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
It would be a distraction. But you know, in an
ideal world, you let him marinate, you let him develop.
There's no noise, there's no hype train right in each
of the offense. Yes, behind the scenes. And I do
like him as a prospect.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I'm with you, but he know, but again, he has
to show he can run pro style offenses and pro
plays the way they're called and not just bail out
of the pocket, hold onto the ball and try to
look for something deep.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Sure, I do think his upside is more than any
other quarterback on their depth chart, but that's also a
reflection of their quarterback room. It's a lot of mid,
it's a ton of I mean it's mid mid mid
mid mid. Shadura has a ceiling, a higher ceiling than
the rest of the room. Considering the Flacco is old
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is dirt.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
No, I would agree with that, But again, I like this.
All I can relate it to is this, And I
don't know how the practice is gone.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
You know, you can't.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I don't know who's team this or team that out there.
Every time I've read a couple of things. I read
Dylan Gabriel had a bad practice the other day, But
then when I looked at the comments, a bunch of
people have accused this guy of constantly saying that Dylan
Gabriel's had a bad practice and maybe he's more team Shaduur.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
And so I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I'm sure there's political camps out there, because that's what
happens anytime there's a quarterback competition. You and I have
lived at the last couple of years, so we know it.
So I don't know what to believe as far as
what's gone on. So here's what I think is interesting.
His Shadur not practice well, and therefore, like Tim Tebow,
once upon a time, we'd watch the practices, they would
not go well with him, but Tim would get in
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the game and Tim magic would come around and things
had happened.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
I can't imagine that Shadur has struggled more than your
average rookie quarterback. I can't imagine this is not Tim Tebow.
Do I think.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Shadur is a future Hall of Famer? No, but look
at your average fourth round like Sam Ellinger here with
the Broncos. You're telling me that rookie went back. Let's
go back.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
I don't even know where Sam was the Colts, maybe
his rookie training camp. That Chadur Sanders, who had moments
in college that were much better than Sam Ellinger at Texas.
That Chadur is struggling on this level. That's just like, oh,
this is Tim Tebow. There's no way.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yeah, it just look mel Kiper.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Did he fanboy over should He's not an idiot, though,
Let's not act like mel Kiper is an idiot.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
No, I'm with you, but again, look, mel went overboard
the other way because he had his big board, and
I think that was No.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
You're right, but.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
I cannot wait to see him play in the preseason
and he's gonna be going against threes and fours.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Right, which will help build the hype train. Why. I
wonder if they're trying to simply.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
To me, you sign a snowpunk, and I think it's
I could see Snoopuntley all of a sudden just showing
up and playing more than Shaudre whenever this first preseason
game hits.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Because I don't think they want to teach Joe Flacco
a lot. What.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
Okay, here's a conspiracy. That crossed my mind. Although why
would it? Why would you do this.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Because under the Browns, I guess maybe because you want
to negate the hype train.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
But you do see something in the kid. Do you
design them? Do you just have him turn around and
hand the ball off the times?
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yes? You could. You could.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Do you design the most vanilla out route schemes where
you don't even give Shadur a chance to make a throw?
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yes, But you wouldn't treat any other player that way.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Oh, I've seen them treat players that way before in
games because you don't want to deal with the public
outcry that this has got to be the guy day one.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
That is some politics. Man.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Well but I've seen it. Man, I'm telling you, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
I know twenty ten against the Raiders in the second
Monday Night game, I was on the sideline where the
bench was literally waving at the rout and knock off
the booze for Kyle Orton halfway through the game because
they wanted Tim Tebow.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
Tim Tebow is a different animal, Like we've all seen
that that kind of hype, when the fans are dedicated
to that kind of hype, they don't.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Want to deal with the teams don't want to deal
with it.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
It.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Shudor's got a little of that kind of hype going
on by his hardened fans. Sure, listen, there's probably a
bunch of Brown fans that don't want to see Joe
Flacco again.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
We know that this is why this is This is
an interesting situation. We'll see see what happens.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
You know so much Schady like this text are like
remember when Schadur didn't play well against Nebraska. Yeah, and
like his third start at CEEU. I know he had
some good moments last year, some damn good moments.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
By the way, Sam Ellinger has been a little bit
interesting in camp. We'll continue to watch that. I'm not
saying he's going after bon Nicks, don't read that.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
But if Stiddy, if Stitty gets.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Bored with things Ellinger, Ellinger's had a little something to it.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
That's what I said. The Sam Ellinger career back up.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Now on you are I take the check with that.
Good nights, We will talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Thank you, Mark Springer thanking to Sanford thanking a leggy
good night all
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's the final hour of the Krakman and Lindahl Show
on Monday, August fourth, which means we are so much
closer to having Monday Night Football.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Think goodness. Anyway, I hope you're having a great one.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I know the kids are a couple of weeks away,
as some people's kids getting ready to go back real soon.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Either way, hope you soak up the rest of summer
and enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It is the high five. Our man, Mark Springer's back
in the house. Let's do this thing. It was interesting
because Jesse kind of liked the hard high five. I'm
not sure Alan Baka loved the high five. Because Mark
told me perfectly how this was gonna go. Mark said,
before you left, He goes, I know you haven't worked
with Baca before, but here's what's gonna happen. He's gonna
put a bunch of cool stuff up on the screen
behind you, and he's gonna.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Try not to talk. And that's exactly what happened till
the high five.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Baca is a cool dude. He's a funny dude.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Did a fantastic job. He's very good at his work.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, no, he's great.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
But he's one of the two radio people that does
not want to be on it.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
He doesn't talk on air much.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We had fun with both of them. We had fun
with both of them.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
That's great, that's great, thanks to both.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
We always love when the ogs come on.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I'm the best at this. I'm day one.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
That's right, you are day one. You might have created
the segment that created a thousand segments.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
To be honest with you, all right.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Let's do that high five. Andy. So I was out
last week, but I would I would check Twitter, and
I saw people tweeting up. Oh I was throwing some picks. Finally,
Oh no, bo Nix is throwing some interceptions. And I
guess he threw another one or two today. You were
out there, Andy, he did.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I mean, you know, listen, I I want to see
the guy. I want to see the guy try some
things I really do, and some of it's gonna work
into the answer you're about to play.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'm not angry. I'm not angry about it. You know
this is.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
That's how it goes.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, look, you don't want to see him repeated necessarily,
I'll give you that, But.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
You don't want to hurricane of interceptions. Here Sean Payton
being asked about both throwing some picks today.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Yeah, look, we're charting picks here like hurricanes. So he's
doing fine.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
What is this a category one? Do a category five
on the hurricanes scale?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, see, here was the thing, and I thought, like,
I think people got a little too fired up about
the fact that so you missed it. Last week he
had not thrown any picks and that's all people started
talking about it. But again, but they were in controlled settings,
as Jeff talked about, you know, Bo made the right
decisions and look Bo scrambled out. He's made plays happen
when it looked like nothing was there. He's found receivers
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over the middle. He's been quick to try to get
something out of a play instead of just chucking the
ball out of bounds. I haven't really had a major
problem with Bo's camp.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
The reality is the offense is not doing great against
that first team defense. That's just a fact. But there's
a lineage, there's just all sorts of reasons, a bushel
of reasons as to why this happens, including the dB
and head of the O. And now Bo's tried a
couple throws that he's probably gonna you know what, here's
what Bo's got to avoid. Here's what I would say.
The message to Bo probably should be is these picks
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have come when you've tried to kind of force it
to Sutton. So let's not do that come regular season.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
But today, But this is when you this is when
you try things right, This is when you dabble, This
is when you take chances because it doesn't matter. These
aren't games. You kind of alluded to it right there.
When I was hosting with Nate recently, I asked him
before camp started, I said, and you know me, and
I'm very high on the Broncos was before training camp started.
That has not changed despite a handful of bow Nick's interceptions. Okay,
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but I asked Nan, I was like, do you think,
because this Broncos defense is top three, if not the
best defense in the NFL, and with this offense going
up against that in camp, that if Bo struggles, if
the offense struggles, people will overreact. But forget that they're
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going up against a top three, if not the best
defense in the NFL. So I view this as some
sort of iron sharpening iron. When Bo and this offense
goes up against the Tennessee Titans in Week one, they're
gonna be like, oh, oh, that was a good, you know,
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crash course that we got against our own defense. This
is a cake walk compared to that.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, I mean, look, you need these things figured out
by the time you face a Philadelphia that has a
great defense, you know, going into Washington, those are two
road games. Houston's got a pretty good defense. These are
the games you need to get this stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Figured out for right.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I would like at some point towards the end of
camp or you know whatever, whenever we see it, maybe
in a camp technically camp's done in another week. By
the time we get to the end of the preseason,
i'd like to see them have a little but a
success against the ones, more than they're having now. But again,
you laid it out, We've talked about it on the show.
The offense is not as far along in its evolution
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as the defense is from where they were when Sean
Payton took over. That's just how it is. I think
they're a playmaker shorts somewhere. I'd love to see a
true playmaker that requires double coverage E merge and who knows,
maybe Evan Ingram will be that guy, you know, But
I think until they get that, I don't think this
offense will be on the level of the defense, who
has the defensive Player of the Year and a whole
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slew of pass rushers. So it just is what it is, right,
Like you said, hopefully this is gonna make them better.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I fine, let's talk about Jaquon macmillan. Andy, I'm a
huge Jaquon macmillan fan. Let's hear from both Sean Payton
and j mack. Somebody called himself. We'll hear it in
a second. Actually, yeah, j Mack. Sean Payton on how
Jaquon is doing with the slot cornerback battle with Jaday Baron.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
A competition between him.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
He's doing He's doing well. Yeah. J Kwon, he's doing well.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Well, you got him on the podium. I just he's
doing well.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Reporter called him Jaikwan.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, he's about to come up. Let's get his name right.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And he's doing well. All right, thanks for asking, uh
ja Kwon McMillan himself. Does competition drive him to be better?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I'm always competing. That's every year with me.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
J mac gonna be J Mack. I'm the same guy
I was back on twenty twenty two when I first
got here. I just come out here and compete each
and every day, and they try to get better and
we I think we're trying to do that as a
group and everybody's getting better by it.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
J mac gonna be J Mack. I love.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
That kind of reminded me.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Who's there's those memes or those little funny cartoons that
walk around the guy yells, what is it?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Leroy Jenkins? Yeah, I see that's that's what that kind
of reminded me of.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
So confidence.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Jaquan McMillan, I think is going to be a big
part of this thing. I really do.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I think people, you know, I did d Max got
a little bit of going on, but not totally. But again,
I think people think that, you know, John A. Barn's
here to replace people. He's here to strengthen the position.
I don't think Jay Kwan McMillan's going anywhere now. You know,
you get to the trade deadline, you may need something else.
Ja Kwon might be the guy that they're asking for,
and ultimately, I don't know if they can pay him
and keep him there.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
It depends.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I love how deep this I'd said it last week
Spring people can't forget the No Flies one win his
deepest cave on Webster.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
They're dining back.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I remember how good that guy was for what he
was asked to do. He wasn't going to be your starter,
but you start getting him going against fourth and fifth receivers.
That's been a problem, man, So don't It's great how
much depth they've had period.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I wouldn't sacrifice the depth unless injuries. Really yeah, build
up elsewhere, but you know, the depth allows them to
rotate guys and keep them fresher, so fresher legs, and
not only game to game, but as the season goes along,
you'll you'll be even fresher if you're getting spelled more
down to down if there's more rotation going on. And
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jakek one is, he's a freaking baller, dude. He that
interception he had to ice the Browns game on Thursday night.
I mean, the depth at this cornerback position is insane.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It is, and it's good because you're gonna need it.
Corners see.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Gets hurt. What if one of the corners gets hurt.
We saw Riley Moss get hurt. Now you can just boom.
Joda goes to the outside. McMillan's firmly in the slot. Obviously,
I'm not wishing injury on Riley Moster, Patzer Tam, but
if that were to happen, or an injury to Baron
or McMillan himself, that's where the depth comes in handy
as well.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
No, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I'm with you one thousand percent Spring that it's the
bottom line is you're gonna lose, guys, and listen to me.
I'm not afraid to hear people have Super Bowl talk
about the Broncos. I'm not sure I'm fully on board yet,
but you know why, I could see its surprising us
because this defense could be good enough to get him
there Sistan eight last week. Don't tell me if this
defense is on the level of twenty fifteen. And they've
got a long way to go to prove that. But
if they prove that they are, don't tell me this
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offense isn't at least as good as what twenty fifteen had.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Zombie Peyton Manning, as Nate refers to him as, And
Brock was good, but he wasn't great, right, bo Nicks
can be that well, not just all. I don't have
DT in a manual, but but she.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Got sudden and you know what I mean again, if
we don't know what capable do we over glorify Brock Osweiler.
Bow's got much better than Brock. I would so it's
got a better skill set, Yeah, I would say so.
And it's his offense. It's been built around him.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Rock.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I I've got a soft spot in my heart for
Brock because we always had good conversations. And I think
Brock should have just stayed here. I wish if Brock
would ask me he didn't, I would have said, just stayed.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
He came on this show a year or two ago. Analyst,
So all right, man, j MA is gonna play. He's
gonna play a lot, all right. Sean Payton recently said
that this Broncos team is one of like seven teams
he's coached in his career that could win a Super Bowl.
He said, you know, the goal is to make the
playoffs once again, but this team could win a Super Bowl.
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Sean Payton was asked about that today.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Well, obviously it has to start with quarterback, it has
to start with defense, it has to start with offensive line.
Like there's certain things that if they're not on point,
it's hard to make a statement like that. But when
you look at some of these critical factors and look,
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I told them that, and I was now, that doesn't
mean that just means you have a chance. And then
I would say most importantly ownership, because there's a twenty
that each year have hope and dreams and they're dysfunctional
(10:57):
at the top.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, well, listen, you go everything that you look at there,
we can all, you know, step back and be awed
by what they're building out there. It's going to be
an absolutely awesome building and you can tell it right now.
And it's amazing how much work it's done on the
daily out there of that new Bronco facility. It will
be the envy of every NFL owner when it's done.
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But at the end of the day, you know what
I noticed. I notice things like we have to go
and park up at the park at the soccer fields
to walk down because the construction is taking the traditional
lots away and you know what they've got up there.
They've got people to greet you. They make sure it's
been marked exactly the way you've got to walk, so
you know exactly where you have to go to training camp.
It's the details, it's not and this isn't just the media.
(11:43):
This is so the fans know that where I go,
how I get to my seat. They've got the nice tents,
they've got the refreshments, they've got the they got this
all figured out. When ownership knows how to handle the details,
and this is the things we were wondering about. It's
great that they're so rich. They rich people that don't
do anything with their money. So he just refer to
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them with a lot of those owners. When you have
the details handled, like they've proven this camp, that's how
you know things are going right.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
In my mind, yeah, you know, Jerry Jones is Berry invested,
but he's got his hands everywhere the Penners let Peyton
and Peyton do their thing. That's a good thing right there.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's absolutely a good thing because just because you own
a team doesn't mean you know the.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Business of the sport how to pick the right players.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Could you imagine you know what I'm talking about. Could
you imagine if Greg Penner was, you know, doing the
Jerry Jones thing.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Jerry Jones thing. I just walked down to twenty of them, Blake,
I know they've been on the uptick anyway.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah, warming burn a bell Hell yeah, won that series
against the crap Pirates team. Let's hear from. Shadar Sanders
had a Browns training camp, so he missed a practice
recently with arms soreness, and he pulled himself out of practice.
He he He reported his own soreness even though he's
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in the middle of a four way quarterback competition. He
was back practicing today. He was asked about his father,
Dion Sanders, wanting to come to Brown's training camp, but
Shoulder saying no, don't come.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Yeah, I told him, Yeah, I told.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Him don't come.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And why did you say that?
Speaker 7 (13:16):
Because I mean, like I look, I look at it
at my own point of view, like I don't want
him coming to see me right now because I want
to I want to get to where I want to go.
Then for him to see me. I don't want him
to come and see me. You know, get a couple
(13:36):
reps and you know he's cheering like a good dad, like, Nah,
you can't be proud of me right now. I gotta
get to where I'm going, and I know it's a
lot I gotta do to get there. So it's kind
of like I just want everything that I'm doing is
just like focus on this time. And I don't want
to know distractions because we know out the media, we
know how everybody will take it and take away from
the team just from him being my own dad showing up.
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So you know, it's a if then a curse at
the same time.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
There you go. You know what the right answer?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Spring was Like that answer, it's a very good answer.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
What else you gonna says?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Speeding tickets aside? That's a good answer.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
That's a great point. I forgot about those. Yeah, don't
speed anymore and don't have your dad out of camp
because you got a job to win.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
But you know, it's it's it's you know, a lot
of people's dads probably go see their kids, especially rookies.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
They can, for one, but if his dad goes, it's
a problem. Circus it is, and with fair or not.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
But guess what heavy is the crown?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You get a drive a Bugatti before anybody got to
their pro camp.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
So there's there's good things of being deonce too.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Browns are at the Panthers Friday night, five pm. That's
the Browns first preseason game. I mean, Shure is playing
in that thing, and I don't know how much. I
don't know when.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
They've been They haven't even given him first team reps
because first day, can't quit talking about it.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
But fourth quarter he's got to get in. Fourth quarter,
well you would think.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Listen, I think he's you do whatever you want to
do with Joe Flacco, because.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I know we're all Kenny Pickett hurt with Hey Bickotts hurt.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But I think I think she is better than both
Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Start.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I don't I think is better than Flacco. Is that
a crazy statement?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Sewich version of Joe Flacco shows up, Joe Flacco that
showed up to the Browns late in the season two
years ago and got into the playoffs and ed it
was good David and Joco playing like an All Pro.
That's a guy you at least give a shot to
the start of the season. But if it's I'll borrow
your term. If he's zombie Joe Flacco, as he tends
to be in some of these. If you get Joe
Flacco of the Colts last year, you don't know what
the heck's going on, And yeah, I don't know what
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you're doing with that.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Well, I'm excited to watch her play in the preseason.
You're gonna get moments. He's gonna have a moment in
the preseason.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I like the guy.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I think he could start. I think he's got to
be willing to learn. I think if he takes the coaching,
he could have a potential to be a starting NFL quarterback.
You know, I'm not going to predict much beyond that
he's got ice in his veins when it comes to
the key moments, and I think that's a big feature.
But again, you've got to prove to every bud you're
running an offense has been called and not doing what
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you want to out there, and those questions have been
going on all the way back to see you. So
if he can answer that, then I think he's got
a chance of doing something. And I think what he
said is important. I think it's good and I think
it shows that he does have some idea of what's
going on around and.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Which is great.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
So he's dealing with You know, he was in a
little bit of a cocoon when he was at CU
let's just call it what it was. But he was
also a star. He helped win them a lot of games,
and so good for him. But you're out of the
cocoon now. And that's that statement right there. Seems to
be he's aware that he's no longer in the same
quote unquote safe environment that he's been in.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I one day, will Dion will go to a Browns game?
Answered or starting.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It may be this season, quite honestly, Now beyond this season,
I don't know. They could fire Stefanski. It depends on
how bad it gets. I don't care what Haslin wants
to say. Jimmy Haslam out there saying I'm not all
in on Arch and I didn't tell the coaches to
draft you know, I didn't make anybody draft sheddo or
I'm not really buying a lot of any of it.
But okay, you can keep preaching it if you want,
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but I have no come on, most teams are gonna
want the first pick in the draft, whether it ends
up being Arch Manning when the college football season's all
said and done, or somebody else. You know, you have
your quarterback of the future. Maybe you get lucky and
it is Shador, but.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
You look at because the Browns are gonna be bad,
He'll get a look so that they can see what
they have.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I tend to agree with you, and we just gotta
We just got a tweet from Adam Schefter. But in order,
the Brown's depth chart is Flacco, Picket, Gabriel Sanders.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
And then that's the Yeah, they it's the pecking order
based on draft position. They're continuing to send a message
to Shuder Sanders that we don't want the circus, we
don't want the diva behavior. So you're fourth on the
depth chart. They're sending a message to him.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
They are, and so far he's received it and handled
it well. But now, look, it's all gonna ultimately if
sports are done the right way, which they aren't always,
but if they are, it's decided on the field, and
hopefully we'll see that during the preseason. That's the high
five to five biggest stories.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
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Speaker 2 (18:32):
It is Craikman and Lindahl, Andy Lyndall, Mark Springer taking
you the rest of the way. We'll back with you
tomorrow at three o'clock. So we've one more day of
practice to watch here in Denver and that comes our
way tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
There's not going to be I think the team.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
May be doing something, but there is no availability, and
I don't think they have to let us in on
Wednesday and then they get out of here and then
Thursday they have their joint practices. Friday the guys get
a day off or walkthroughs wherever they do it, and
then they play their first preseason game coming.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Up on Saturday night. So will it be worth watching?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Spring It's interesting because you know, Sean Payton did say
that he's gonna play his starters today.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I don't think I have a massive problem with this.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
But I feel like every year we fall back in
the debate, I should you play the starters or not?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Where are you hearing? Are there guys that you would
definitely sit out?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
What's Sean Payne's philosophy? He's a play the starters. He
always says like callous, like build the callous. Is he
a callous guy?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
He's a callous Well?
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Or was that fangio? Am I mixing my coach?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I think you're right. That might have been fans.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You here's our thing with Sean that's been weird. You
think after two years we have a feel. But the
first year he was dealing with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Now he did play.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Russ because he didn't care about Russ.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, he did that, but it was a new offense.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Was that last year we had this faulty quarterback competition
that wasn't he knew who he wanted all along unless
Bo just looked terrible.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It was a rookie. You gotta play him in the
in the preseason, get him in a and to that
same thing is second your quarterback.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
He needs he needs some looks. I'll give it to you.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
He needs a couple series ish in that ballpark.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Sure, I'll give him that, and if you want to
go a full quarter or whatever. See, here's what's trickier
about the preseason now is that you end up playing
only three games, and everybody, unless you play the Thursday
night game, gets two full weeks off before you play again.
It feels like forever. Might even be three weeks by
the time it's all said and done. But it feels
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like you get forever between that third preseason game and
the actual start of the regular season. So how much
rest is too much rest? I don't have a problem
with him playing the starters, and I will say, quite honestly,
after after what we've seen out of the offense getting
suffocated by what we believe is going to be a
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very good Denver defense, I think it would help them
to go a different and go against a different unit.
And like again, I still think the Niners will be
pretty good. Where I'll start to worry is if the
starters play against the Cardinals and don't make a little
hay here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Okay, you're at San Francisco, play a series. At least
I would.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, listen, I go, uh, you know, this is the
old Scott Hastings slash Mike Shanahan thing in Shanahan's day,
and even Kobiak did this a little bit. Get out there,
have a good series. Yeah, get off the field. Sure,
go about ten to eleven plays, score a touchdown, call
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it a night.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Okay, Week two August Saturday, August sixteenth, that's your only
home preseason game, so fans can't come out and not
see the ones for at least again a series.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I would say quarter.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I agree with you. I think that's the one. That's
your one, that's your home playoff game. Cardinals aren't great. Yeah,
I would go full first quarter. I think that's your
true mock preparation quarter.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
But see what's funny to me is it's easy to
talk this way now. The minute they hurt somebody, you
freak out. They're playing live life.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You really can't because they got to get ready to
play football.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Man. Yeah you know, okay, and then you know preseason finale,
you're in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah what what.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Sean Payton a big message center. Uh, that's in. They're
the worst team in the league, or one of I
think the worst. I think that's another series. At least
go show your Saints, your former sayings, Hey, look what
I got now.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
See I hate that. I hate that, terfying I'm not
playing them there.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Okay, interesting point, but then Andy, okay that now they
will have not August sixteenth through September seventh.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, it's almost a month. It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy,
but look they're not really. I mean to get two
full practices in and they've got a chance if they
want you to pad up, go full hard two hours
with the Niners, do the same thing again with the Cardinals.
Then you go and you play a couple of games
against them. You know, I guess to your point, if
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you you know Josh McDaniels, see, here's the problem. Here's
why I've seen this go sometimes. Josh McDaniels in particular,
did not like how his Running game looked in twenty ten,
if you remember, and they decided after signing Lindell White.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
That they would run him in that game.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
They also decided to play Ryan Harris to try to
prove a point. I'm sure Ryan's told the story either
here on air, you know, about how he had to
go play because you.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Know, they wanted to prove a point that the Running
game didn't stink and.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Both guys got hurt and you got off to a
terrible start that year.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So yeah, well, sometimes it's just Josh McDaniel's energy can
create that.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Oh, you're right.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I think the football guys hate him and they aren't
gonna allow him to succeed because of how you're doing it.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Had he reasons like that, whereas I think it's just
keep him in rhythm. A series that's I just on
us series, except I agree Cardinals first quarter, Cardinals first quarter, Diners,
Saints' first series.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I guess one series probably doesn't hurt. Although I remember
talking to Derek Wolf about this one year. I don't
know if Tyler's ever talked about it. I don't know
how the old lineman feel about this, but remember Derek
Wolf joined the show a couple of years ago the
Midday Show with Scottie and Ryan and Josh, and he
was talking about how much he hates the preseason where
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you get ready to get into that play a game
mentality and then you're in there for literally a series,
and it just he was like, what you know, because guys,
a lot of guys, especially when you do what Derek did,
got to go to a different place mentally.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
To go do that all the field and all that.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, possibly other thing.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Now you're being angry, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, I don't think a great mode if you will,
at least I don't imagine it's funny. I'm any offensive
lineman though that I've talked to that they don't attack
it that way. They're not so worried about getting in
the anger. They want to be more and the mental
just kind of the chillbro vibe.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Because as an offensive lineman, when you're when you're pass protecting,
you're you're working backwards well you know, I mean your zen. Yeah,
when you're the defensive line in the past rusher, you're
pushing forward, you got to go.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
You know where the target is. The target has the ball,
and you got to get there as.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Soon as you can, slapping your helmet, giving your your
own concussion.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You know what always threw me off. Were you ever
I don't know what sports you played. Were you ever
a pregame music guy? No, I mean to watch their
own but I get it though, I Yeah, But when
Jim Tracy dropped on us years ago, he was listening
to Selene Dion on his way.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
To the well he's the manager I know.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
And I get it. It's a cerebral man's game.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I guess if you're thinking with baseball, but still, you
know you're gonna be hit me with the Selene Dion
on your way?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
What what's you in the zone? Whatever you need to
do to get beyond?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
What zone are you looking to get into?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I don't know, man, Maybe that's maybe that's the thing.
Maybe it feels like date night music. That doesn't feel
like I go into a baseball I get it. Look,
if you want to be chill, that's fine. You want
some smooth seventies jazz.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Okay, what do you think Aaron Rodgers is listening to?
I mean, he's listening to you know, the flutes and like,
you know what that tribal music? What's that intro? The
digerido is what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
What about the monks? You remember when the monks were
real big? Are you too young for that? Because now
I think about it was probably two thousands.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
No, they had like the they had these monks.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That's Aaron Rodgers and then they try to Yeah that's
what he's listening to.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I'm telling you, everyone's different.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Man, set it to a club beat.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
All right, you mentioned Jim Tracy there. I do want
to I just won one Rockies thing real quick, Andy,
because I was on vacation last week.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Oh, you went to a couple of padres.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I did. Pods Man made a trade of one of
their best prospects for Mason Miller and JP Sears from
the West Sacramento Athletics. They're going all in, baby. But
I get back. I land at DI a like three
pm ish, and and you get on the train and
you hear Alan Roach's voice. But then you know there's
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like usually a player, maybe a local athlete, welcoming you
to Denver. Sure who should be welcoming me to Denver?
But Brenton Doyle, okay, And I'm like Brenton Doyle. He's like, Hi,
this is two time Gold Glove winner Brenton Doyle, Welcome
to Denver. And he says something about like go Rockies
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or like enjoy Rockies baseball.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Well, in fairness, he had a walk.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
On, So I chuckle, I scoff, I'm like Brenton Doyle.
And then that that noight Doyle, noight?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
He hits the walk off home run.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
That's insane. I still can't believe they did that down
nine to nothing. Oh, I walked in.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
It was nine to nothing, like you said, bottom half
of the first They're down, and I'm just laughing, and
Hughson's doing the old well you got it, and you
can tell he's like chewing glass. You gotta just start
chipping away at this thing somehow, And sure enough they
found a way to do it. And I think the
rain delays certainly helped. But which athletes next? Is Bo Nicks?
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Is bow Nicks is up for the train soon?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Right?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Oh? For sure? Bo for sure?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Or do you go Pats or ten? Because of his
dick of.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
These guys have already gotten that honor like Pat. I
don't know if Bo has yet. I mean, he was
just a rookie last year. He might not have had
that honor yet. But it's common. It's common.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Smooth Southern drawl, dude.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I saw Monday night Padres Game Great Game, Padres down
five to one Matt Mark Mark Fanto's HiT's a grand
slam to put the Pods up four five to one. Earlier,
Viento's was robbed in the same spot by Tatis is great.
Great freaking game. Pods come back and win electric energy.
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I'm leaving Petco met some dudes. We're going out. What
do I see? Right as I'm leaving Petco Park? I
see a dude in a bo Nicks jersey. It was
meant to be serendipitous destiny, but the fact that bo
Nix is his presence was felt in San Diego on
a on a late July night of Broncos. Country's back.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Oh it's back. It's going national again.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Mego international after we get done with this game over
in London.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
But yeah, that is what see.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I don't know how to feel about it because I
saw your post and I'm like, well again, it is
a it is a Bronco town.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
You mentioned that earlier in the show.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
IoT a Bronco fan, So I can't be shocked by
the Knicks jersey show Like.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
If I saw like a Jayden Daniels jersey, I mean,
because you know he's electric and not know bow Nicks.
It was just like even like a Caleb Williams jersey.
I know Caleb, but it just struck me to see
a bow Knicks jersey.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Scott wants to know, did you see in the La
Chargers jerseys at all?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
No, I did not.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
It's amazing because there was a fairly passionate fan base
for them out there. Yeah, and it's like, I get it,
they feel betrayed. A lot of people don't want to
hear about them.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Ever again, dude, they should have stayed. And I mean,
I get money and stadium and all that, but if
if you care about like like I think, fans help
you win.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Games, well I'm telling you this. I've said it forever.
The NFL should have just went ahead. They got enough
money collectively as an ownership group. You should have ponied
up the money to help do the stadium thing. However
you needed to do it. Spanos is cheaper in could
have could have pitched in for that as well. But
you should have built the building there because that is it.
That is a super Bowl city, is it not?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
That is great. It's not as absent died as like uh,
you know, La or other California cities. Not as congested.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
No, and they've got plenty of great things to go
and do.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I mean again, it's a and you know, as Scott
pointed out, Bronca is one of their first Super Bowl there,
so that doesn't hurt the fact that We're affectionate to it,
but serious, sir, that is a great place to go and.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Have the Super Bowl. By the way, what was the
best and worst spot you ended up in in San
Diego as far as eating?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Oh Man, best spot? Who men? Everywhere I went was good?
You you and Eric Robbers, one of our listeners, recommended
Mitch's Seafood, which is what right on like a dock
of one of these bays. Very good. It was very good.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I couldn't tell me you liked it or not by your review. No,
I really liked it. Just the coal slob was a
little dry, Okay, alright, so I couldn't give it full
points on a scale of sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
That's my sliding scale. I gave it a sixty eight. Yeah,
but the seafood was great. The fries were good. But
I gotta be I can't just give everyone five stars.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
No, I'm with you. Did you have a bad spot though?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, you went to a pizza place that we were
out there and you the beach called a surf side
pizza I think it was.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
We made sure we did not go back there.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Okay, well you were only there a few days. Oh,
last time you were there yeah, you didn't go back there.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So this time we found a place called Square Pizza,
which was off the charts great for Detroit.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Here's a dude, Okay, So, like if I go to
a new baseball stadium, I gotta try their hot dog,
Like this is the first I'll try your hot dog.
That's the classic, that's the staple.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Okay dog.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
What was the Friar Frank?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
The Friar Frank Okay?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Not good? Yeah, probably the worst ballpark dog I've had,
like so basic, so bland, nothing, Rocky dog's better. I've
had the Dodger dog, which isn't great, but that was better. Yeah,
Friar Frank, no good. I've been to d Backs games.
Their dog was better. Friar Frank, no good.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yeah, Friar Frank kinda.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Not a great name.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah. I don't like the name. The name's very off put.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Dude. Here's another thing you gotta be careful with that.
Here's another Denver related thing. So and I had seen
this going back a couple of years that the Padres
for for like I said, a couple of years, have
been playing all the small things at their games.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Well, and they get along as a resident and a
huge fan of.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
The team, But the Avs did it first.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I agree, I agree, But when Tom DeLong is a
regular season ticket holder, like off the first base line,
I think he's gonna get.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
A that's fair. But they stole that from the Abs.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
No, I agree. I feel like, all right, and dude,
I would like to see.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
The Avs bring it back. I don't know, am I
going again?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I got enough out of tanners out here. Television were wrong.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I feel like the ABS in general started to sing along. Well,
I guess I can't say that because the Red Sox
and Sweet Caroline.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I think there's been a few others that have, you know,
taken place elsewhere? Is it a coinn like the As
got away from it and they have not won a Cup?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Saying well but again, DJ triple t is he that
the year that it was the staple? The Cup year
you were whooping a lot of teams. You didn't have
results in doubt late in the game. We've unfortunately had
a little more nip and tuck situations down the stretch
than sure what we'd like to deal with. You don't
want him playing the song and then you blow the goal,
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which has happened a little too often. Let's be honest, no.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Two plus goal lead, probably even three five minutes to go,
shouldn't should have never gone away. I don't know what
I want to back Well.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Tweeted him. He listens to the show, tweeted, all right,
it'll be noted. We'll come back. Wrap this thing up.
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Speaker 3 (34:46):
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Speaker 2 (34:49):
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Speaker 3 (34:58):
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Speaker 4 (34:59):
Boss says we're working on it.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Boss says we're working on it.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
By the way, uh, I need the breaking news, Sanders Spring,
I wonder how this is gonna hit you. Doesn't affect
the Broncos, but it does affect some Colorado football fans.
The Browns have decided they're gonna make a move, and
they're they're listen to this signing, and of course they're
gonna get it off Wi Fi Browns are signing QB
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Tyler Snoop Huntley with Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel nursing
hamstring injuries, and Shadur Sanders with a sure sol sort shoulder.
Brown's another arm. According to uh Adam Schefter, this is interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I forgot that Tyler Huntley wanted to start going by Snoop.
I forgot about that. All right, what do you.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Make of this? Because should or did return to practice today?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Wasn't there somebody else who wanted to go by Snoop?
Either way, don't they just need a body? They just
need a body body that Snoop Huntley, That Tyler Huntley,
who we've seen uh with the Ravens, good quarterback. You know,
when Lamar would get hurt, you'd come in and win
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some games. I think he had a stint with the
Browns recently. But no, no, that's not an answer. It's
just because guys are hurt, they gotta get they gotta
they gotta look at Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, all right, I don't know, man, I just I
guess you gotta have three quarterbacks for this preseason game.
I suppose, but that may tell you that whenever. I'm
sure there I don't know who's open and when. This
is the week where you start giving getting Thursday, Friday,
Saturday night preseason games. I love it because I watch
them all and that's just how I passed my time
in August on the weekends. But because they'll just have
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weekends full of games. But seriously, this.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I I I just cannot get a vibe how they
feel about Shadoor out there in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
I really can't.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
You know, well, okay, you know I mentioned we talked
about in the high five. He's fourth on the depth chart.
Is he's fifth?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Now that's a.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Great question, now because did you say snow Puntley was
with them before? If he knows the offense and that
might put him ahead of Shador.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I think he will. After he left the Ravens. I
think his stop was the Browns and it was okay
well as a just practical did not make the team though,
But either way.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
But if he knows the offense and he can go in,
and this may be a situation where they don't want
to play Flacco in the first preseason game, so snow
Puntley gets the starts the start, I mean sure, I
guess these hamstrings aren't going to be healed in time
for the other two to play or be a factor.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Why would you sign this guy, I.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Would think so. Yeah, this means that Kenny Pickett and
Dylan Gabriel are not playing Friday night in Carolina against
the Panthers. And I'd mentioned that, you know, I think
the Browns are sending a message to Shoulduur, I think,
and I thought about it after the segment. I was like,
I think a better word would be humbling him. Okay,
I was just trying to humble this man. Do I
think he needs a lot of humbling? Actually know? But
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the league seems to think so. I don't like. I
see why. I understand their perspective. But real quick, before
your point, Andy, Okay, three quarterbacks. It'll be interesting to
see who gets in first Snoop Puntley or should Ur Sanders.
Who gets the reps after Flacco? And I don't think
Flaca will play long? So who comes in next Snoop
or Shadur? And then either way this means for sure
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that Shadur is going to get more playing time than
he otherwise would have the entire fourth quarter at least.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Okay, yeah, I'm not positive.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Part of me wonders, so I related this to Now
it's a little bit different situation, but I was talking
to a friend about what's going on in Cleveland out there,
and so, look, are they trying to manage the hype train?
Are they trying to manage the fan expectation? This felt
like a little t bosh to me early on, because
there are fans out there that are gonna want him
to play because of who he is, no matter what right,
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no matter what the depth chart says, no matter what
the practice reports say, they want to see Shid or Sanders.
Is the team trying to stop the inevitable? I don't
think they can control it, so don't hear me that way,
But it feels to me like a team that's trying
to control the hype train from getting on the on
the tracks by playing should or less for the public.
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Maybe not, maybe not, But you've already got four quarterbacks
in camp and now it's five.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
This is an interesting point from this texture because we
talked about this in the high five. How should he
missed the practice with a sore arm? This texter says,
how does Sanders have a sore shoulder while getting fourth
string reps.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Well, he self reported it, so.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
He said too that this would happen at CU. He
did say today that this would happen playing for the Buffs.
He would get a sore arm from time to time.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
All right.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I mean, look, it's a fair question. It doesn't eliminate
the Texters question, because trust me, if you tune into
ESPN every morning for either get up or first take,
they let you know every day what should where Sanders
didn't practice one way or another.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I mean, it is amazing. I knew there'd be hype
around the kid. I didn't expect this.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Like they've already pointed out, he's had no first team
reps so far, which is a little bit surprising that
this early in camp he doesn't get a.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Run with some ones.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I'm just telling you, either Cleveland doesn't like it and
doesn't want to cut him, which I'd be surprised by
because you drafted him in the fifth round, or they
don't want the hype train to get going.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I just don't. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
So the hype train could affect now, it would just
be noise. It depends on how noise the loud, or
how loud the noise would get but NFL team is
a proper.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
You don't want the distraction.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
It would be a distraction. But you know, in an
ideal world, you let him marinate, you let him develop.
There's no noise, there's no hype train right in each
of the offense. Yes, behind the scenes. And I do
like him as a prospect.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I'm with you, but he know, but again, he has
to show he can run pro style offenses and pro
plays the way they're called and not just bail out
of the pocket, hold onto the ball and try to
look for something deep.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Sure, I do think his upside is more than any
other quarterback on their depth chart, but that's also a
reflection of their quarterback room. It's a lot of mid,
it's a ton of I mean it's mid mid mid
mid mid. Shadura has a ceiling, a higher ceiling than
the rest of the room. Considering the Flacco is old
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is dirt.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
No, I would agree with that, But again, I like this.
All I can relate it to is this, And I
don't know how the practice is gone.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
You know, you can't.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I don't know who's team this or team that out there.
Every time I've read a couple of things. I read
Dylan Gabriel had a bad practice the other day, But
then when I looked at the comments, a bunch of
people have accused this guy of constantly saying that Dylan
Gabriel's had a bad practice and maybe he's more team Shaduur.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
And so I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I'm sure there's political camps out there, because that's what
happens anytime there's a quarterback competition. You and I have
lived at the last couple of years, so we know it.
So I don't know what to believe as far as
what's gone on. So here's what I think is interesting.
His Shadur not practice well, and therefore, like Tim Tebow,
once upon a time, we'd watch the practices, they would
not go well with him, but Tim would get in
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the game and Tim magic would come around and things
had happened.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
I can't imagine that Shadur has struggled more than your
average rookie quarterback. I can't imagine this is not Tim Tebow.
Do I think.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Shadur is a future Hall of Famer? No, but look
at your average fourth round like Sam Ellinger here with
the Broncos. You're telling me that rookie went back. Let's
go back.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
I don't even know where Sam was the Colts, maybe
his rookie training camp. That Chadur Sanders, who had moments
in college that were much better than Sam Ellinger at Texas.
That Chadur is struggling on this level. That's just like, oh,
this is Tim Tebow. There's no way.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yeah, it just look mel Kiper.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Did he fanboy over should He's not an idiot, though,
Let's not act like mel Kiper is an idiot.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
No, I'm with you, but again, look, mel went overboard
the other way because he had his big board, and
I think that was No.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
You're right, but.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
I cannot wait to see him play in the preseason
and he's gonna be going against threes and fours.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Right, which will help build the hype train. Why. I
wonder if they're trying to simply.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
To me, you sign a snowpunk, and I think it's
I could see Snoopuntley all of a sudden just showing
up and playing more than Shaudre whenever this first preseason
game hits.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Because I don't think they want to teach Joe Flacco
a lot. What.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
Okay, here's a conspiracy. That crossed my mind. Although why
would it? Why would you do this.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Because under the Browns, I guess maybe because you want
to negate the hype train.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
But you do see something in the kid. Do you
design them? Do you just have him turn around and
hand the ball off the times?
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yes? You could. You could.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Do you design the most vanilla out route schemes where
you don't even give Shadur a chance to make a throw?
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yes, But you wouldn't treat any other player that way.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Oh, I've seen them treat players that way before in
games because you don't want to deal with the public
outcry that this has got to be the guy day one.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
That is some politics. Man.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Well but I've seen it. Man, I'm telling you, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
I know twenty ten against the Raiders in the second
Monday Night game, I was on the sideline where the
bench was literally waving at the rout and knock off
the booze for Kyle Orton halfway through the game because
they wanted Tim Tebow.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
Tim Tebow is a different animal, Like we've all seen
that that kind of hype, when the fans are dedicated
to that kind of hype, they don't.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Want to deal with the teams don't want to deal
with it.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
It.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Shudor's got a little of that kind of hype going
on by his hardened fans. Sure, listen, there's probably a
bunch of Brown fans that don't want to see Joe
Flacco again.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
We know that this is why this is This is
an interesting situation. We'll see see what happens.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
You know so much Schady like this text are like
remember when Schadur didn't play well against Nebraska. Yeah, and
like his third start at CEEU. I know he had
some good moments last year, some damn good moments.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
By the way, Sam Ellinger has been a little bit
interesting in camp. We'll continue to watch that. I'm not
saying he's going after bon Nicks, don't read that.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
But if Stiddy, if Stitty gets.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Bored with things Ellinger, Ellinger's had a little something to it.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
That's what I said. The Sam Ellinger career back up.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Now on you are I take the check with that.
Good nights, We will talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Thank you, Mark Springer thanking to Sanford thanking a leggy
good night all
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