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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nd up for you today.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
First for sitting down with Anthony Rubbin from much Breaker
to talk about his hot new documentary on the global
impact of mass immigration, especially in Europe, plus his insights
and covering those intense No King's Day protests. Then we're
bringing on Lori Colly, the prank Citizen, to dig into
the haunting mysteries of that Minnesota assassin case that's got
everyone buzzing the news.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You need to know, but with solutions and hope. This
is get free with Christie.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
All Right, we saw all those No King Days protests.
There's a long clip that Anthony Rubin put out, but
I wanted to highlight this particular part of the clip.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Watch this.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You're stepping towards me now, terrors relaxed. It's really just
start relax you know, Okay, this is not me.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Q.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Also, please bring it up.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Irony is the word that comes to mind all around.
That was a confrontation with Anthony Rubin of muckraker dot Com.
He's an independent journalist focused on immigration, also the topic
of a new documentary being released soon.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
He joins me now to discuss.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
But but first, wow Wow No Kings Day protest.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Uh Anthony.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It's so ironic because he's he's screaming at you, and
it sounded like he said he was calling you hostile.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
That's right. Well, I mean, listen, there's what was evident
when I was there, is that there's a serious you know,
if if you needed any further evidence that there's a
serious mental health crisis going on in this country right now,
that was on in full display. There's also you know,
this ever encroaching you know, Marxist thought that we should
just redistribute the land. If you guys take a look
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at the rest of the video. I mean, tons of
people in there talking about land redistributions. We should confiscate
land from the white people, you know, and obviously people
that are nuts. So yeah, I mean it was very sad.
We were there looking for I wanted to see if
we could find people that were nefarious actors, possibly being
paid to be Honestly, I didn't see it, but it
looked like a lot of people that were just you know,
NPC characters, not right in the head.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, and you say that, and it sounds ridiculous, like
and it sounds over the top that anyone would think
of ways that you know, white people's land could be
stolen and redistributed if you will. But I mean, this
is something that's actually going on in South Africa. You
know that they're trying, they're stealing, and there's a huge
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racial divide there on the other end of the pendulum,
so it's not crazy to think that they want the
same thing to happen here. But again, the irony of
them saying no kings and being able to be out
there violently protesting. In many cases it's like, okay, you
have the freedom to do this, so how do we
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have a king?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That's right? That's right? Well again, I mean, you know,
it's very interesting is how you have a group of
very confused people, a lot of them. You talk to
them and you ask them some very simple questions. They
don't even have a coherent answer for you. So it's
very interesting how such a group of seemingly confused individuals
can you know, take part in such an organized protest.
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And these protests were in cities across the country, so
that is very interesting. And again that's why we were
there looking for, you know, like I said, nefarious actors
or we did see there was like Young Democratic Socialist,
a group that was there. So obviously it's there's socialist
infiltration throughout these protests. Obviously, I mean that goes without saying.
But again, from what I saw, it was just a
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bunch of people that have no idea what's going on,
that are obviously being used for a larger agenda.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I thought you had great covers, and I encourage people
to check the entire video out on the x account
there to but use the perfect way to describe these folks,
you know, NPC, like they literally just pairro it talking
points that they've heard, and when they were confronted with
a question by you, it's like they don't know what
to do, so they either act out like we just saw,
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or they just run away or you know, I mean,
there's no answer to that. But again we were speaking
of the irony, and I was surprised to learn and
I saw through another one of the posts that there
was a no Kings event in London where they literally
have a king.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Still, So what was going on there?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
And how did this Trump arrangement syndrome cross over the pond, if.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You will, right, Well, actually I wasn't even aware of that.
We actually just got back fro from London. We were
over there last week and it's actually I mean we
talked about that. That's what our documentary is going to
cover in part. You know, the invasion of Europe. London
is totally gone, it is not English anymore. So again
I don't I wasn't at the No King's protest in London.
I can't really speak on it. But my guess is
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that you probably have a lot of these, you know,
illegal alien invaders that have come across the English Channel
that were taking part in this. If I had to guess,
I'm sure there was a large amount of them there.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So your documentary is really looking at illegal immigration, and
we've seen and are seeing the effects of this mass
influx of illegals into our own country, but you chose
to focus on its impacts on Europe. Can you tell
me why you decided to do that, why that's the
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focus of the documentary.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Absolutely. So, we were the first team to actually follow
the whole route from the invasion route from South America
all the way to the US border. That we did
that at the end of twenty twenty three, and then
all throughout twenty twenty four we were focused on tracking
the unaccompanied children, the hundreds of thousands of unccompanied children
throughout the country who had gone missing, and also doing
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election integrity work and you know, highlighting the potential threat
of non citizens participating in our elections. But you know what,
the election of Donald Trump, the flows through our southern
border now, to his credit, have gone down by you know,
ninety plus percent. So we figured, you know, why not
go do a comprehensive documentary on what's going on in
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Europe and do the same thing we did in the
Americas and follow the whole trail from Africa to the
European continent and then through the continent to the final destination.
Of course, there's you know, many possible final destinations, but
we chose the UK. So we decided to follow that because,
I mean, it's not just the invasion of America, it
is it is the invasion of the West. You know,
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with the United Nations that really that sits on the
top of it. They're kind of the King Daddy with
their sustainable Development goals, the white papers that talk about
using migration as a tool to further the twenty thirty agenda.
Their fingerprints are all over this in the United States,
and as we saw also in Europe, and you know,
we just think it's very important to investigate this across
the Atlantic as well, because again, it's not just an
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America problem. It is a West problem, and very soon
the West as we know it will cease to exist.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I've noticed that in the No Kings protests that happened
here in America, you saw a lot of older people,
a lot of gray hairs and straw hats. And so
it's we always, when we're doing journalism seek out motivations.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
What do you think their motivation is?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I mean, these people are so hostile, So do they
really think that there's some kind of world of utopia
where everyone can just kind of go wherever they want
and live together however they want. I mean, what's the
motivation here?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, it's very interesting that it's a lot of old hats, right,
I mean you would think it would be mostly young
people that don't know the world. But honestly, you know,
I mentioned a mental health crisis in this country, which
is again on full display. If you don't even have
to watch my video, just go watch any sort of
you know, people interviewing leftists at a protest. Thank god
(08:16):
it didn't get violent. I'm sure if we were in
Los Angeles what have But if you're asking you know
how this can be? I mean, this country has had
it so good for so long, with our world reserve currency,
with total dominance, especially after the collapse of the Soviet Union,
unchecked power, and with that or i should say, dominant power,
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with very few nations that could rival us and check it,
and I think that just bred total complacency. And these
again NPC characters, for lack of a better term, think
that this is just the norm. They think that this
is just the way the world is, and it's it's
absolutely not. All they have to do is go travel
to Mexico or you know, ninety plus percent of the
world and they will see very quickly that this ideal
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utopia that they speak of is a total illusion. But again,
if you're asking me, I think that most of these
people are just totally delusional and they've grown up in
this country where they have it's so good that they
can't fathom that it's actually a total delusion what they're advocating.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Absolutely, you mentioned tracking the children.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It still amazes me that legacy media just turned a
blind eye to the hundreds of thousands of children that
went missing under the Biden administrations allowing of open borders.
What kind of things were you able to discover there
about where these kids were ending up?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Were you able to save in each children? And how
did that work?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Right? So we were given a list from an HHS
insider last summer. It had about eighty three hundred names
of children that have come across the border unaccompanied. And
the list also contained, you know, hundreds of other data
points for each child, you know, their sponsor name. The
sponsor is the person that they actually go to in
the United States, the address they were sent to, you know,
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their country of origin, their birthday, and met a lot
of different notes, different data points that were less important.
And so we got this list and it had, like
I said, eighty three hundred children on it across you know,
almost all fifty states. So we spent about three months
tracking these kids, knocking on doors and looking for them.
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We hit i would say, around ten states, all east
of the Mississippi, and I mean some of the kids
we found and they appeared to be in good help,
uh kind of door and their quote unquote sponsor would
tell us, yeah, you know, I don't have the kid anymore.
I gave the kid away to such and such, and
you know, at that point, there's nothing we could really do.
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We're not law enforcement. And you know, there was one,
I mean, there were there were a lot of cases
where there was clearly something wrong. Just I could give
one example. You know, there was this girl that we
found I believe she was around fourteen. She was younger
because this list was about three years old. She was
younger when she was actually sent to this address, but
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I think she was around fourteen when we found her
last summer, and it was in this slum in New Orleans,
and you know, we knock on the sponsor's door. They're
telling her she's not here anymore, and we keep pressing him,
and eventual she's like, okay, you know what she is here,
you could find her. And you know, she comes out
of this like around the corner where there's like these
hoodlums hanging out, and this girl, I mean, it looks
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like she's on some serious drugs and her voice is
her voice actually sounds like like a male drug user,
and so there was obviously something wrong there. Now we're
not like, we're not with the government, we're not law enforcement,
so there's very little that we can do there, but
you know, we again that's so anecdotally, I could say
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there was something wrong there. But there was one case
in Florida that we found Anita Springs where this one
sponsor had I believe like over ten children dropped off
at his address at various different homes that he owned.
This is all in our documentary. I'm a little bit
hazy in the numbers, just you know, but people could
see in our documentary. And we spoke to some of
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the children that were sent to the sponsor and they
told us that they were sent to this guy and
they were immediately told, Okay, now you're going to start
paying off the debt that's over your head. And they
were sleeping on a concrete floor in a room with
you know, other men, and that's what they did. They
started going to work and siddenly it was a case
of labor trafficking, and they were still being told that
they had a debt that was over their head that
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they were paying off.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
So sad.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I mean, it's sacrificed to expose these things and tell
these stories, but it's also a safety concern. So you
were just discussing that last documentary, but as we said
earlier this this new documentary coming out is focused on
this mass immigration in Europe. And in a post you
where you were talking about this documentary coming out, you
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said that one of your two concerns was foreign governments
and and worrying about ending up in a prison cell.
And so, uh, tell me about how that, how that works,
like how you hold yourself, how you stay safe.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And any any fears or run ends you may have had.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Absolutely, so we went from the country of Mauritania. A
lot of people probably haven't even heard of it. I
honestly had it until I planned this trip out. It's
the worst country that you've never heard of.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It honest sounds like something in like a fairytale.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Bay Maretania is it's absolutely horrible. Now that's a country
where if you're even filming so so the IOM, the
International Organization of Migration, that's the like the migration arm
of the United Nations. It's part of the United Nations.
There everywhere you go where there's an issue with mass migration,
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you will find an IOM office. And so just as
one example, you know, we're trying to film these IOM
buildings in Mauritania, and you will have the police show
up and in like tell you like like what are
you doing here? Why are you filming this building? I mean,
you could get disappeared in that country very quickly. That
wasn't even the main fear. I mean, for example, in Europe,
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we were I can't really say so much. I could
give some general previews of what we got, but we
were using hitting cameras to get a lot of our
footage over there. You know, in Spain, for example, if
you're caught filming somebody on a hitting camera, I mean,
you will get arrested one hundred percent. That is not
allowed over there, but you know it's very necessary if
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you want to do this kind of work. Frankly, I
don't know what's going to happen after we release this.
There might be I might get kicked out of the
European Union. I'm really not too sure. But yeah, I
mean to tell you some more information. I mean we
were so I mean the people that profit from this
are the smugglers. As everybody knows, these people are brought
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into Europe. It's the most incredible thing. These are people
that are illiterate. I know that because you try speaking
with them using a translator. Then you show them the
text and the translator app and they look at with
a blank stare, and they always ask you to actually
play the sound because they don't they don't know what
they're looking at. They're literate. A lot of people believe
in witchcraft. We found some of them that spoke English
and they were telling you straight up that they believe
in witchcraft. And on the boat over here, they keep
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an eye out for witches and if they find a
witch on the boat, they will cast them overboard. So
these are the kind of people that are coming over
to Europe. It's very serious, high testosterone men again that
believe in witchcraft, that are illiterate. They're brought onto the
European continent and they are then put in these camps
for years. They're given a monthly stipend, obviously, free health care,
free food, and they're trained in the native language and
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once they're proficient, they're then released onto the continent again
to essentially replace the Europeans. These people work for less money.
They don't have the same expectations of you know, European standards.
They're happy with a lot less and that's the reason why.
And these people are then released onto the continent and
there's tens of thousands of them coming over and they're
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highly dangerous. I'll give you one more thing that we
saw out of men. We were in front of the
Eiffel Tower trying to film some of these guys, because
the front of the Eiffel Tower is just all African
men that are selling these little Eiffel Tower trankets. We're
filming them. We got jumped by these guys for nothing,
just for filming them. That's it we got. We were
in the French press for this. We got jumped by
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these guys and of course nothing happened to them. They
run the show. The police out there will tell you
we can't even touch these guys because if we do
anything to them, it's us that's going to get arrested
or in trouble. We're gonna get pressed with charges. So
just at extremely high level, those are some of our findings.
It's very concerning, and again it's it's really the end
of Europe as we know it unless they do something
about it soon, which doesn't look like it's happening.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, it's sad, I mean, because it definitely deters you
from wanting to go visit at any of those beautiful
sites and there is knowing how overrun and lawlessness that has.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Invaded. I want to ask you this.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So even covering immigration a long time, both in Europe
and America, and right now, you know, we have kind
of two different narratives going around as far as I
guess what we should be most fearful of, we did
know and notice that there were a lot of Chinese
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nationals that took advantage of the open borders in America.
More information is coming out about the motivations for possibly
being involved in the twenty twenty election cash ptel posting
about that that they did have evidence that there were
CCP plots to have fake IDs that that basically got
varied by the last DOJ.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
At the same time, our concerns over.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Islamic culture in Islamic taking over our kind of back
in the forefront with this Israel versus Iran conflict going on.
What do you see as the biggest threat to America?
Is it this Chinese threat and Chinese immigration.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Or is it these mass followers of Islam that invade Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
The biggest thread? I mean what comes to mind? Uh, honestly,
are are three things. Number one would be us involvement
in a in a what could amount to a Third
World War. These two conflicts in Ukraine, and you know,
now in the Middle East, what's going on that could
very easily kick off a new World War. It could
go nuclear very fast. I mean you literally have Pakistan
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right right right, But it's it's tied, uh with perhaps
all of these foreign nationals like you just said. I mean,
there's there's Chaiicom agents that have for short come over here.
I've spoke to plenty of Chinese that have come over
here that tell me point blank that there are you know,
uh plane clothes, uh CCP police that you know, essentially
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enforced Chinese law here in the United States. I mean
this has been told to me on numerous occasions. I mean,
I mean there's there's Chinese police stations that there's CCP
police stations that they busted in New York City, in
Los Angeles that this is not even news really. I
mean people know that this is going on, but it's
not just them. I mean you have foreign nationals from
essentially name any country and they're here, and they came
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across the border during the Biden administration, and every single
one of them needs to go. I mean, you there
can be. The thing is, you know, you talk to
some people, they're like, well, shouldn't we have compassion and
shouldn't we have some nuance? And you know, depending on
their case, I mean, you know, absolutely not. There is
the crisis has got to such an extent that at
this point there is no room for nuance. I mean,
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if you you must have sweeping measures to really clean
this up, there's not enough personnel for a nuance. Every
single one of them needs to go. And the fact
that they're here, I'll give you you know, I'll tell
you this. So we spent the last in twenty twenty four,
like I said, going all across the country doing election
integrity work and finding these children and all involved. Going
to these communities that are all legal aliens, like these
apartment complex buildings that are ninety plus percent of legal aliens,
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and these you know, these women, they know that if
they come over here and they have a child, that
the chance of them getting deported are you know, exponentially lower,
right because now they can say, well, I have this
child here, what am I going to do with them?
I'll tell you this. Ninety plus percent of the homes
that we knocked down with there was a woman, you know,
of child bearing age. She had at least one newborn baby.
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I don't think that that's a coincience. I think there's
a reason for that. I mean, these are they're having
anchor babies. They're given citizenship. Obviously everybody knows that, but
the extent to which it's happening, I mean, this was
last year. I'm sure there's even more children now, and
every day that goes on, the political will to do
mass deportations to get all these people that invaded through
our southern border out of here is going to have
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to be much stronger, because now, what are you going
to do with all these families that have children here
that are American citizens. It's it's highly concerning. So there's that,
and then the final thing would be a financial collapse
because a US dollar sovereign debt crisis is coming eventually.
So I mean those three items, all of those concerned me.
I would say, wow.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
And so when do you anticipate this new documentary coming out?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Well, we just got back here over the weekend and
as we speak, we're putting it together where we're looking
for a distributor to help this get as much reach
as possible, and you know, I would say people would
be hearing a lot more within the coming weeks for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And if they want to check out that other documentary
were talking about when you were tracking the children here
in the US, how can they get access to.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
That muckreaker dot com or all of our socials at
Real Muckraker. And as soon as we're done here, I'll
go ahead and pin that on top of our Twitter
so people go, people can go find that at Real Muckraker.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well, thank you Anthony so much for the work that
you're doing, putting yourself in danger with these lunatics and
continue to stay safe because you know it is it's
getting more and more crazy out there.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Awesome. Well, thank you so much for having me. I
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
You bet well.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Up next, speaking of it's crazy, what a wild story
about this Minnesota Republican or was it a Minnesota Democrat?
This guy that went on a shooting rampage and they
had to do a man hunt and hunt him down.
He's married, but he has a heavy set roommate. I mean,
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because that's normal. I mean, so many weird things when
it comes to this Minnesota assassin story. We're really digging
into the mysteries of that with the praying citizen Laurie
Cawley in just a moment. But first I just want
to remind you it's never been more important to support
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Speaker 1 (22:40):
He just got off of this defamation trial for you know,
a month.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
He was having to face all these lies and accusations
from the voting machine dominion company, Eric Kumer, and they
were trying to go after him for sixty seven million
plus dollars. I mean, it's insane, but he had the
fortitude and the strength to fight them in court, and
(23:06):
he's feeling victorious. You know, the ruling ended up being
just over two million, That was not the sixty seven
plus million that they were seeking. But he shouldn't have
to pay anything at all. I mean, it's a free country,
like he should have been able to have his concerns
about election integrity right, and have concerns over someone that
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was brashly speaking against Trump and yet.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
The running a.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Voting machine company. I mean, come on, But he just
came off of that. He's feeling victorious, but he still
is not done fighting. He plans to appeal the two
point three million dollars settlement that is the result of
this and continue to fight for one day, one vote elections,
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Speaker 1 (25:11):
Our next topic, Well, there are conflicts and.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
You know here and abroad of course, a very strange
assassination plot in Minnesota. It has both Republicans and Democrats
pointing fingers blaming each other for increases in political violence.
Lori Colley has been digging for the truth about this
case and how to pray about it. She writes and
produces Praying Citizen newsletter to keep patriots and true Secrets
(25:34):
updated on current events. With her husband Bob, they soared
through the noise and nonsense to provide excellent content and
prayer points on politics and culture. There she is with
her husband and so we're so excited to have Lori
cally back. Thank you so much for looking into this, Lori,
You're welcome.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
And just when you think that there's no more to say,
stuff happens. So I have this really interesting piece that
I I think the Christian community would be very interested in.
I'm not seeing it a lot out there, but it
kind of to me, it sort of Leans to maybe
he was this guy was brainwashed at some point and
(26:16):
they picked somebody who had feet in two different camps,
like you were saying, was he a Republican or is
he a Republican? Is he a Democrat? And you know,
we know how these things end up. A lot of
times a person doesn't survive to tell their story. So
I don't know, that's just my opinion. And here is
(26:40):
this is just provided this is true. Okay, this is
what they're reporting that he texted after he had done
the shootings. He texted to his family, Dad went to
war last night. I mean, wow, you know, and he
admitted to the killing. So I thought, you know, let's
(27:00):
take a look at the timeline. Let's look at the
oddities and then you know, some of the people who
were shot, why were they shot, the motives, et cetera,
and to see where we come out on the other side.
So Saturday two am, mister vance Belter, impersonating a police
officer in a car that looks like a squad car fires.
(27:25):
I guess it was something like thirteen rounds or eighteen
rounds into State Senator John Hoffman and his wife, and
surprisingly they survive. How does that happen. How do people
get shot that many times? And they survived and the mom,
you vet, puts her body over her their daughter to
(27:48):
protect her from getting shot. So this is in their
home and they go to the hospital and they've survived,
they had surgeries and you know, thank god, they're doing okay.
So then he leaves, he's at home. He goes to
another home of another state representative. Nobody's there, So then
he leaves and he goes to another lawmaker's home, but
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the police are there because they think that he might
try something. So number one, how would they know anyway,
you know, out of how many lawmakers are there, and oh,
they just show anyway. That just kind of doesn't make
any sense to me. So a minute at three point
thirty five, so this is an hour and a half
after he shoots the first two people. He gets to
(28:33):
the home of state Representative Melissa Hortman and the police
are there and they say before he entered the home,
they had arrived. They saw his black SUV parked in
the driveway with the emergency lights wooooo flashing. So he
was standing in front of the house, several feet from
the door. He drew his weapon began firing when he
(28:54):
saw the officers get out of their car. Then he
goes inside and he skills mod. Okay, So the next
morning and he flees the scene. The next morning his
vehicle is discovered. This is Sunday, and he's arrested. That night,
there was a forty three hour manhunt, and apparently he
(29:15):
was found because somebody had a trail camera set up
and they saw him on the trail camera and they
called the police. Okay. Then somewhere in there, mister Belter's wife, Jennifer,
is detained during a traffic stop. She had gone to
a convenience store. She has several family members. I wish
I knew how old their children are, because he's apparently
(29:38):
like in his early fifties, and so were these little
kids or teenage I don't know anyway, So she's traveling
in a vehicle with relatives. She has passports like fifty
thousand dollars in cash and weapons in the vehicle. She's
questioned but not arrested, and then yesterday they went to court.
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There were six liberal charges, including murder, stocking and firearms offenses,
and then state charges of two counts of second second
degree murder. And two counts of second degree attempted murder.
So they do that in Minnesota, they just try. They
don't bring a first degree murder charge because that requires
(30:21):
a grand jury. So they're just building their case. They're
putting together the evidence, and there will be a first
degree murder charge. Okay, So does all of that kind
of make sense?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Well, it's funny because I'm thinking, as you're telling, going
through the timeline, if you wrote this as like a
movie script, the director would be like, this isn't gonna work.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
There's too many pot holes. Like how like you said, like,
how did the cops get there? How did they know
what he was going to do next? Like what's going on?
I mean, there's it's all over the place.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
It's it's it's almost it does make you feel like
it's like purposely confusing.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Yes, if they didn't want us to ask questions, we
shouldn't have been watching detective programs for the last fifty years, right,
because you couldn't make it work on screen. Okay, So
then we get to the odd parts. So you know
they're always looking for a manifesto, right, Well, the cops say,
there's a manifest there's no manifesto. Then there is a manifesto.
(31:21):
Then they say, well, it's not really a manifesto because
it's he's got a list of seventy people plus planned
parenthood or abortion providers on this list. But then he's
also got in his car a bunch of No Kings flyers,
so it's a hand it's a you know, piece of
second greater artwork that's been photocopied a bunch of times,
(31:45):
and it says no Kings okay, whatever, what does that
have to do with anything? Right? Then he's got scads
of notebooks in the car that are filled with plans, names,
surveillance notes because he is he fancies himself a security professional,
which doesn't make any sense when we go back to
(32:06):
his background in his education and all that. It's like,
this doesn't make any sense, okay, And then the cops
say there's no primary motive, all right, So I thought
we could listen to this little clip of the police
giving their press conference. Why we reported that the list
is hit list is computing names and people who are
(32:28):
worship white supporters and also can be pleased release the
names of the two other targeted victims who were clearly.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
As I said, With respect to the other two potential victims,
I think it's up to them whether they want to
publicly identify themselves. As I said, it wouldn't surprise me
if they do. They're elected officials, but that's their right. Obviously,
they don't have families and children and privacy interests that
they needed to sort through, so I'll let them do that.
With respect to the potential motive, let me say this,
there's been a lot of press coverage and speculation and
(32:59):
discussion of manifesto. I've seen nothing like a Unibamber style
of manifesto in his writings. He had many many notebooks
full of plans, lists of names, surveillance efforts that he
took to surveill and locate the home addresses and family
members relationships with these elected officials. But I had not
(33:20):
seen anything involving some sort of political screed or manifesto
that would clearly identify what motivated him. Obviously, his primary
motive was to go out and murder people. They were
all elected officials, they were all Democrats. Beyond that, I
think it's just way too speculative for anyone to's review
these materials to know and to say what was motivating
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him in terms of ideology or specific issues.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
There's a lot of.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
There were some abortion rights supporters I believe on the list,
but again there was dozens and dozens and dozens of
names on you know, hundreds of pages of documents that
were recovered with his writings on them us and give.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
More details after he's every hinded lessing.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
I'm not going to comment on that at this time,
do you.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Okay? So the people who were shot were pro choice,
which is not hard when you're talking about Minnesota, you know, yeah,
majority are pro choice, right, And then some people were saying, well,
it's because of the woman who was killed. She voted
(34:31):
with Republicans on cutting off state healthcare to illegals. But
that I don't know. To me, that one doesn't make me,
you know, I don't think that's what this was, because
when we go into his complicated biography, that doesn't make
sense in my if this guy was a crackpot who
(34:52):
was brainwashed or something. It then he went off on
pro pro abortion people, but that, you know, I don't know.
The cop said no, so who knows? So then we
have these weird messages with this room. Did you see
the roommate. The clips of the roommate. This such a
weird person. He's wearing a Papa John's, you know, T
(35:15):
shirt or polo or whatever. He starts talking to the media. Now,
like you said, he's got so the home that this
man has owns free and clear, is like a half
a million dollar nice looking home out in the in
a field somewhere. I mean, it looks, it's beautiful. It's
a beautiful piece of property. But then he also rents
(35:37):
this room in this house, and I think he's got
other roommates besides this really weird roommate who talks to
the press. And the only thing I can think of
is he doesn't have a job right now except a
like a job, a part time job that pays five
hundred bucks a week. So is he living in this
(35:58):
Maybe he can't find word where he I don't know.
It's just it's just so strange. Okay, so we'll we'll
listen to this clip this weird roommate, just a short clip.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I love you, guys.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
I made some choices and you guys don't know anything
about this. But I'm going to be gone for a while.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Okay, sorry, take your time.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Maybe did shortly.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
So I'm just want to let you know I love
you guys both, and I wish it had gone this way.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
I don't want to say anything more and implicate you
in any way.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Because you you guys don't know anything about this. But
I love you, guys, and I'm sorry for all the
trouble this has cost.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
It's just so weird.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I mean I can't watch with any sense of seriousness
because as someone who's been out there and being a
reporter and knocked on doors and interviewed people, you know,
I didn't see the evidence that these people were asking
him like, Okay, why was this married guy that has
a nice house living with you? Like I mean, that's
(37:21):
like the glarying thing that's staring at her face, Like
how do you just gloss over that?
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Like what is this relationship? Why was he living with you?
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
None of it. None of it does. And then they
asked him if they could take pictures of the text
messages or could he repeat them, and he says no, no, no,
I can't. So it kind of sounds like he was
making it up as he went along. Yeah, okay, so
that's the weird roommate Okay, then we have this the
people online are saying that when he put on this mask,
(37:52):
this latex mask, and he went and did these killings,
it can't be him because he's a big guy's five
or six whatever, any weighs two hundred and twenty pounds.
And then the mask killer looks different. So I don't know.
I think it's it just depends on you know, where
the camera is and all that. But I've got a
(38:13):
picture of that, and I also have a picture of
him and his wife. She's wearing a T shirt that says,
I think and therefore I am a Democrat. So and
then he's got to resist with a gun, a handgun?
How does you know? Whatever? Okay, that that is just
that's where you think, well, they're you know, it's it's
(38:33):
Tim Wallas, it's the Democrat Party. It's a resist with
a gun. I don't know. That's pretty pretty chancy to
be wearing a T shirt like that. And then there's
also this picture of him wearing a mask, which is
what you know, people say, well, it doesn't look like
the same person, you know, I don't know, what do
(38:55):
you think, Christy, do you think it's a different person?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah, I mean, people were like going as far as
to say, like, oh, if you measure the door knob,
you know, like it's not the very height. But as
you said, I think that it's very hard to tell
with the camera angles and the lighting and all of
that giving you true perception in that case. But that
(39:18):
I think anything's fair game to ask because this is
just too weird, Like it's all so weird. I really
that video you played earlier, that officer, like, I resent
that he was, like they his targets did were all Democrats?
You know, because it's like, but wait a minute, I mean,
(39:38):
as you showed, there's there's certainly evidence that he was
an asst of I mean, was he was he or
was he not employed by Tim Walls?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Well, he was, and so he and his wife, I mean,
he was placed on a governor's board by the predecessor
to Tim Walls, and then Tim Walls kept him there
And that was in twenty sixteen and then twenty nineteen,
so it's fairly recent. His wife was hired as an intern,
(40:07):
which I thought was weird because interns don't you think
of them as being young people right out of college students. Yeah, yeah,
And that was for Tim Walls, and he's not been
governor that long, so whatever, it's just strange. Okay. Then
we go back to his kind of his sketchy background.
So first of all, he gets like a normal degree
(40:29):
from a college. Okay, But then in the nineties he
goes to where do I have it here? This weird
place called well, I shouldn't say it's weird, I mean
there are I'm sure some of your viewers know who
Dutch Sheets is.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Well.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
He got an honorary doctorate from this organization is called
Christ for the Nation's Institute. It's in Dallas. So he
was a student there in nineteen eighty eight to nineteen ninety.
He graduated with a diploma in practical theology and Leadership
and a pastoral diploma, and he was ordained as a
(41:06):
charismatic preacher in nineteen ninety three. This is the shooter now.
So this organist, Christ for the Nation's Institute, grew out
of the Christian Nationalist movement started by William Branham and
Gordon Lindsay. And so what has happened to that movement
(41:28):
is branched off into the New Apostolic Reformation, Dominionism and
the Seven Mountain mandate and a lot of the people
that are in it's really no organization. But people who
are in those circles are the same people that Donald
Trump has surrounded himself in his with his faith leaders,
(41:50):
so Paula White and others like that. So that's that
same brand of Christianity. Let's just call it that. Well.
Christ for the Nation's Institute issued a statement of course,
denouncing mister Belt's actions and saying no content. They have
had no contact with him since his graduation in nineteen
(42:11):
ninety three. All right, but that so there are people
who would say that he might have developed a pseudo
identity coming out of brainwashing by what they would refer
to as an extreme corner of Christianity. So if you've
got somebody that's maybe it's easy to brainwash them, then
(42:34):
there's kind of there might be some roots of mk
ultra stuff going on. I don't know, because why would
you if you're okay. And then here's the other thing
he also gets, which seems so weird to me. He
gets a degree in leadership, a PhD in education slash
(42:55):
leadership from a Catholic university in Milwaukee that doesn't exist anymore.
Went out of business. So so let's say he's Catholic,
he's pro life. Well, how do you go from protecting
the lives of babies to killing people? Something has to
(43:18):
happen in there, right, Yeah, anyway, so he and then
he does he So my question is that all? Right?
So let's say he's kind of off the main draft,
you know, off the in for far right field whatever,
with you know, wanting to prevent abortions. Well, then he
(43:42):
gets appointed to the board of the Governor's Group by
Tim Walls. His wife is wearing a T shirt that says,
I think therefore I am a Democrat? So is that
all just? Is it? There? Are they playing a role there?
How would his wife You're a wife, I'm a wife.
We're not going to let our husbands go off and
(44:03):
do some sort of killing if we know about it.
I mean, we're not married to those kind of men.
But anyway, you would stop your husband if he's you're
watching him get kookier and cookier and may you're going
to kick him out of the house. Well maybe that's
why he was living with that weird roommate.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Go.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
I mean, they are just so many things. Then he's
got so his education is trash because he can't get
a job related to a PhD in leadership. So he
works at a seven eleven until twenty twenty one. He
manages it, and then he works in food production for
several years. I mean, I don't know, he doesn't he's
(44:41):
not specific in his biography about what he does. Then
he starts trying to start up these NGOs or charity
so he's got one and then crossover into security. One
that's called Pretorian Guard Security Services, which he he lives
his wife as the CEO, and then he's the director
(45:04):
of security patrols. That fails. He's got something called the
Red Lion Group, which I think it's hard because there's
another group called the Red Lions Group, so you get
it confused. But anyway, it looks like he got a
twenty thousand dollars loan from the Small Business Association. Then
he goes to the Congo where he's meeting with the
(45:28):
new governor of the Congo Central to talk about private
business projects related to food and fishing. It's all very strange.
He works for a group called Minnesota Africans United for
African Immigrants Benefits. That's another okay, Well, I can kind
of see that with the Congo thing. And then the
(45:51):
end of this is he's working for funeral homes and
a cremation service. And then in his he's got this
clip out there where he says he has interactions with
the Hennepin County Corners Office, the police, and others involved
with law enforcement, and his roommate in one of the
clips says that he removes eyeballs because.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
It's just because I'm getting weirder and weirder and making
less less sense.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, so I don't know. And you think about the
left and what they want to do. They want to
try and hijack this. So nobody's really picked up on
this Christ for the Nation's Institute yet, but I kind
of think that's going to come out. They're going to
rope all of pro lifers into this, and you know, so,
(46:44):
like Wired magazine says that Belter was the former president
of Revo Formation Ministries and as a missionary in the
Congo or possibly an aspiring oil man or he preached
a sermon in twenty twenty three against churches that don't
(47:05):
fight abortions, saying God will raise an apostle or prophet
to correct their course. Was did he consider himself to
be that apostle or prophet? And if he did, then
he's you know, he has a many screws loose in
his brain, which again leads me to think that he
(47:27):
was MK ultrude or somehow his brain was you know,
he was somehow mind controlled to do this, because why
because we have to have a boogeyman on the right
for all the Democrats to you know, run and say
that we're out to kill everybody. And then so then
(47:47):
we go back to the people that were shot up
Portman and Hoffman and just the fact the only thing
that kind of holds them together they were both lawmakers
or he you know, he's still alive. Mister Hoffman is
still alive. Melissa Hartman died. But their pro choice, and
that's you know, that was the lone thing unless there's
(48:09):
something that we don't know at this point, you know,
something that they hold in common. So I thought we
could end with just going So I was in DC
over the weekend for the Army's birthday. It was awesome.
I didn't see any I saw a couple of protesters
(48:30):
that were maybe they wore a T shirt that was
a negative Trump T shirt or carried a sign, but
they were quiet. They weren't causing trouble. And I think
there just isn't you know, the Democrats need something. They're
falling apart. They have nothing, they have no leadership, they
don't have a message. Their DNC is falling apart. We
had Randy Winingarden, you know, just just leave. David Hogg
(48:56):
got kicked out because he's not the right gender or something.
They decided what six months after they voted him in
that Oops, they didn't fill their DEI requirements. So David
Hogg has to go. They're in shambles. So I think
they just need more. So you've got Democrat Senator Jeff
Merkley saying that President Trump is to blame for the
(49:17):
Minnesota shootings. He said, Trump, of course has popped the
lid off of the rhetoric hate and violence and promoted
this type of environment. And you know, we all know
those people that are watching MSNBC or CNN all the
time and they have no clue as to what reality is.
(49:39):
And so here's this clip of a woman who was
at one of these rallies, No King's rallies over the weekend.
She's absolutely sobbing because of Donald Trump. So I thought
we could just it's kind of a great picture of
what a sad state people are in when all they
(49:59):
do watch the loft stream media.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yes, I just, I just, I'm just so scared. I'm
I'm seven, me four years so I worry about everything,
and I just, I just, I.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Just I'm so scared and upset, and I don't and
I don't understand why people didn't.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
Voted for this person.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
And I'm sad that she has allowed herself to be
put so in fear by the legacy media that constantly
comes out with these narratives that literally Hitler as in
office right now.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
I mean this is obviously she's fallen victim to these narratives.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
Obviously, and she has no obviously no no relationship with
God or she would be able to get you know,
get off, get a hold of her self.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
So, you know, I think if you look back over
the last ten years since Donald Trump came down the escalator,
we've got so many weird I think things were fairly
normal before Trump came down the escalator. As far as
you know, stuff would happen and it would make sense,
and the reporting would make sense, and like you said
(51:24):
people would be asked questions that maybe, you know, could
you could put the answers together and form a picture
of what happened, And well that went out the window.
Think about the Las Vegas shooting that was weird. The
Whitmer fake kidnap plot was weird. Pelosi with the homeless
(51:46):
guy and his underwear and her husband lets him in
the door and he's got a hammer and he I mean,
it's just it's all so weird. And so this is
just I think, just another one of these things. I
don't know if we'll ever have the answer to it.
So was mister belt or just a just kind of
a dumb guy who's confused and just got you know,
(52:10):
he just got stranger and stranger and stranger over the years.
Was he brainwashed into doing this? Was he wearing you know,
a resist with a handgun T shirt just to fool us?
I don't know. I just have more questions than answers
at this point.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah, I mean, it would be a heck of a
of a trying to put people off tracks for him
not only to have the where the t shirt, also
to be active with Democrats, to you know, have his
wife employed with Tim walls. I mean, and none of
that makes sense, like he would do all of that,
but he was really like a closeted all right, figure it. Yeah, okay,
(52:52):
like it just doesn't make any sense, but yeah, it
gives the Democrats another thing to try and blame President
Trump for and brainwash people like we just saw the.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
One that was crying her eyes out.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
So yeah, I hope that we are able to stay
on top of this because I do think that we
have a little bit better of resources as far as
getting FOYA requests to actually be responsive and a different
Department of Justice in place, so hopefully we'll get to
the bottom of what actually went down there. But one
(53:29):
person had put out this whole thing, connecting the dots
in terms of this man's driving desire to be somebody
or be something. You know, he had this PhD, and
then he was like trying to be like the top
leader in this seven eleven that he's trying to point
paint himself as this security guard apparatus. You know, like
(53:51):
everything was all about being out there, putting himself out there,
like getting attention.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Even in the sermons, like it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Necessarily biblically sound, it was more like watch me pay
attention to me, and so that he had just reached
a point of desperation of needing something to for people
to notice him. That seems like one of the most
accurate assessments of all that we know so far. But
(54:18):
certainly there certainly had to be in find I'm kind
in there because there's just too many holes.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Too many and.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
That does make some sense. I mean, you'd have to
be really wacko to want to kill people in order
to But who majors in leadership? I mean, either you're
given those gifts and talents that you develop or you
just don't have it. It sounds like he's a guy
that just didn't have it. Or I keep talking like
(54:50):
he's dead, he's still alive.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
And maybe maybe them a sermon.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
We never know.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
I mean, this is usually how things go.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
It'll be interesting to see if he can maintain his
life or want to maintain his life, because like you said,
there is a pattern here when we see things like
this go down. Will he be given the opportunity to
give an explanation. It will be interesting to see.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
But thank you for bringing all that down for us.
We can quickly it looks like I'm running out of time.
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