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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Happy Tuesday to you.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Today we're diving into the stories the mainstream won't touch.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
As usual.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Today we're joined by Dane Wiggington, lead researcher at geo
Engineering Watch, to unpack the catastrophic Texas floods that have
claimed over one hundred lives and left communities in ruins.
Is this just Mother Nature or could weather manipulation be
fueling these biblical deluges along with the surge in extreme
weather and raging wildfires. Buckle up, We're digging for the

(00:27):
truth with Dane, and this one you won't want to miss.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
So it's the news you need to know, but with
solutions and hope.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
This is Get Free with Christy Lee.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
We're going to take a quick clip from Ted Cruz
talking about what happened in Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Let's watch.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
To the best of my knowledge, there is zero evidence
of anything related to anything like weather modification. And look,
the Internet can be a strange place. People can come
up with all sorts of crazy theories. What I know
is a reality is that a whole lot of Texans
are grieving right now. I will tell you I was
visiting with one parent who was talking about online being

(01:33):
harassed online because their information was public that they had
a little girl who was missing and mystic and look,
there are a lot of people who are messed up, and.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
So Ted Cruz is saying, you know, let's argue about
what could have caused this catastrophic event later on, and
let's focus on the grieving. Yes, absolutely, we should focus
and be compassionate, but that should spur us into.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Finding out what truly happened.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Even more so, he's essentially downplaying weather manipulation there.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
So it's settled.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
There's nothing to see here. It's just natural, natural, catastrophic,
biblical deadly flooding in Texas. Here to discuss is Dane
at Wiggington. He's the lead researcher and administrator for the
website Geoengineering Watch dot org make sure you bookmark that
Geoengineering watch dot org. And he's the executive producer for
the groundbreaking climate engineering documentary The Dimming. He has a

(02:26):
background in solar energy, is a former employee of Vechtel
Power Corporation and a licensed contractor in California and Arizona.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
He's devoted his last.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Twenty years of life to constant research on the issue
of covert global climate engineering operations and the effort to
expose and halt them. So, Dane Wiggington, thank you so
much for your service for being so passionate about this topic.
Been wanting to speak to you for a long time.
Glad we were able to make it work now and
we're going to dive into as much as we can

(02:56):
fit into this next hour, But first I wanted to
get your reactions to Ted Cruz's comments essentially trying to
debunk that weather manipulation had anything to do with what
we had to endure here in Texas.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
Firse, thank you for your attention to this issue. Christy,
very grateful. We need voices like yours in this battle
about mister Cruz. He's either criminally ignorant of the climate
engineering scenario or he's lying, take your pick. We have
everyone like Ted Cruz within the system whose job it
is to protect the system. Climate engineering, whether modification or
a matter of historical record going back almost a century.

(03:31):
So for him to pretend that this is some quote
crazy conspiracy theory, it's simply the same behavior we have
from everybody within the system, and when they resort to
that term of conspiracy theory, that's the final fallback of
the factless and the fearful, or they're blatantly lying. That's
exactly what CRUZ is doing. Climate engineering is inseparable from
what happened in Texas, absolutely inseparable. The entire system has

(03:53):
been derailed, and we have specific programs in that specific
region that we recorded in real time occurring with this event,
the frequency transmission manipulation of that precipitation that they are
manipulating off the record warm Gulf of Mexico. So again,
what we're asking people to do is to investigate for themselves,
not to believe us, and certainly not to believe Ted Kruz,

(04:14):
whose job it is apparently to lie. Investigate for yourselves.
This is historical record, GW. And you watch that ORG
has taken a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration flying lab
to altitude, top scientists in it, and we have sampled
with heavy aircraft for emitting processed that at one of
the world's most renowned testing labs, rins Or Polytechnic in
New York found exactly what we knew we would find
starting with climate engineering, elements of aluminum. So again, bottom

(04:38):
line is this is all historical record. These programs are
well documented at our site. We have Senate documents, government documents,
volumes of data, absolute volumes going back decades. Mister Cruz
doesn't have a.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Clue, absolutely, And I love how strongly you said that.
I know that Steve Bannon tore into that as well
and pointed out that Ted Cruz, who was also behind
trying to implement essentially the acceleration of AI into that
big beautiful bill.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
But that's a whole another topic.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I really want to talk to you about evidence you've
gathered and some of the things that have been spinning
around on the social media atmosphere about what happened in Texas.
But for those who don't know a lot about you,
I am fascinated how you got into this very very
specialized field. I mean, you are the lead researcher when

(05:30):
it comes to geoengineering. It's a topic that has of
course brought about a lot of people saying, oh, this
is just conspiracy theory nonsense, which no, no it's not.
But how would someone like yourself, I know you have
a background and a solar energy how would you get
so specialized into and passionate about this topic digg into it?

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Well? First, This is a matter of priorities. If we
don't deal with this issue, this specific issue what's happening
in our skies, which is weather, chemical and biological warfare.
We are breathing what they are spraying. Aluminum is toxic
to all life forms, period, no exceptions. Every person we've
tested the genungury, watched our hair, blood, urine packed with

(06:15):
these toxic heavy metals. Again starting with aluminum. Is it
any wonder Alzheimer's dementia, als is going off the charge
and this goes right down the web of life Christy again,
from insects, soil, microbiome. So when I moved to the
Pacific Northwest, or to northern California, expecting to find clean

(06:35):
air off grid home was the cover of the world's
largest renewal but energy magazine, and I began losing sixty
seventy percent of my solar power uptake from whatever these
aircraft were emitting. I knew that couldn't be quote condensation,
and I was surprised they wouldn't have heard of these
programs given my background. So I began to research. Found
mountains of data on climate engineering. Geoengineering, looked at the

(06:58):
primary elements used in these operations begin to test my rain,
my precipitation. I had hoped I would not find these
elements there, but I did again, starting with aluminum. The
more I tested, the higher the levels went, until side
a single rain test with thirty four hundred and fifty
ppb parts per billion of aluminum. That's toxic rain. What
was I to do but to face this issue? If

(07:20):
everything in my world was being systematically contaminated and I
have nowhere to hide, there is nowhere to hide. What
was one to do? I faced or dedicated the last
twenty plus years to this battle because of that, and
we've had now a great many are waking up. Your
voice is helpful for that end. But if there's nowhere

(07:43):
for us to hide, if we can't breathe out sucking
in these toxic heavy metals, and they're not just toxic
in and of themselves, but as you combine these metals,
they become even more toxic. It's destroying the ozone layer,
disrupting the hydrological cycles we just saw in Texas. Is
this not an immediate fight for life? If we don't
fix this, all other causes, all other concerns will soon

(08:04):
be moot. It's a matter of priorities. Christy, we have
to deal with this or nothing else will matter.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Now, you mentioned that the word is getting out, and
you know, for those that call it conspiracy, it's getting
almost laughable because there is more acceptance on this. You
can actually google now and find some information. I find
that AI systems like even grock and chat GBT will
minimize or kind of poke fun at any inference of

(08:34):
weather manipulation. But the thing is, the truth is out there,
and so much showed that right away people were not
buying the narrative that, oh goodness, you know, we're just
having these sudden onslought of extreme weather events, you know,
for no reason, to the point that you know you
were seeing littered throughout.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
X in particular posts like.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I have a few to show, but there's a post
that says Texas rain Enhancement weather modification projects directly over
flooded areas near Kirk County.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
You know, you have.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Someone else talking about the correlation between funding by Peter
Teal connected to palent Tar and Augustus de Rico, the
twenty five year old tech bro who founded rain Maker.
He's now coming out saying like yes and admitting that
they did do some cloud seating just two days before
the historic flooding, but you know the areas we hit,

(09:37):
they dissipated just shortly after. It had nothing to do
with this. So what can you tell me on those elements?
Is there is that a major cause? Were there other
things at play?

Speaker 5 (09:50):
These are important points you bring up. And now at
this point, the climate engineers and the controllers may be
again using the localized cloud seating operations as a smoke
screen to mask what they're doing. So to compare the
two localized cloud seating operations compared to climate engineering is
comparing an ant to an elephant, and they have historically

(10:14):
used the localized cloud seating operations as cover for what
they're doing. On a scale it's inconceivably larger. So might
they be throwing this Augustus Dorico under the bus at
this point or trying to make him bear the blame.
It's difficult to say. But even in his case, we
have photographs of that individual nuzzled up to Bill Clinton.

(10:37):
What's he doing in those circles at twenty five years
old with this kind of an operation, and why would
he show up? He showed up at almost every single
state hearing for state legislation to pass Bill's banning climate engineering.
He showed up there to try to debunk this issue.
Why would he be so invested in that? What part
is he actually playing in this whole scenario of trying

(10:58):
to deny this elephant in our sky of climate engineering.
So the bottom line is what we see in our skies.
Let me break this down to the most fundamental part,
condensation or sprayed dispersion. We have upclose film footage of
these aircraft at altitude with retrofit nozzles on the wing
pylons aimed into the exhaust jet stream to make this

(11:20):
look like condensation turning on and off. End of debate.
This is not condensation, period, And when you see people's
sense of reasons should tell them that when you see
an aircraft leaving a trail across the horizon and it
suddenly shuts off and it continues across the sky, it
doesn't fall out of the sky's engines didn't die. Obviously,

(11:40):
it's not condensation. And when we have the so called
meteorological community telling us, well, the atmosphere layers are different,
atmosphere layers horizontally not vertically, you don't pass through a
wall of vertical different atmospheric conditions. These are sprayed dispersions. Again,
there's no debate here other than people who simply don't

(12:00):
want to know the truth. The bottom line is we
have the entire global climate science community openly aggressively discussing
that they're objective of putting aircraft in the sky for
solar radiation management support. We use the science terms. By
the way, the Kimtrails terms fined for personal conversations, but
nothing else. It's the instant marginalization term for any official agency,

(12:22):
any matrix media. So when we have the whole global
climate science community again describe me exactly what we see
in our skies, their goal of wanting to put aircraft
in the skies to spray light scattering particles, that's what
happened to my solar power, and to block the sun,
to slow down the thermal energy build up, to slow

(12:42):
down the warming of the planet, with no consideration of
the consequences. Apparently, and yet they deny what we see,
which is exactly what they describe, skies that look like
something from a science fiction movie. Dirty, filthy, white destruction
of the ozone layer. That's why the sun feels so
intense on our skin, and yet they pretend that what
we're seeing isn't really what we're seeing. And the lie

(13:04):
is ludicrous at this point, and the American population needs
to stop just going about their business pretending their lives
are going to continue as they are, because they're not.
This is just showing what's left of the planet's life
support systems. This is an immediate existential threat.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Christie, when you said that, it just popped in my head.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
You know, I've also seen people talking about, Man, I
really don't see insects or lightning bugs or these or
as much as I used to.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Is that correlated?

Speaker 5 (13:34):
It's directly related. It's the single biggest causal factor. And
when I say that, I'm not denying that we've been
horrible stewards of the planet. Horrible Where would I start.
And again, so it's for many people, they've been trained
to think it's either this or it's that you're either
on the red team or the blue team. No, it's

(13:54):
much more complicated. Every form of human activity that's damaging
to the planet is a problem, but this particular problem
is the biggest of all. And that's saying a lot.
So the insects are an incredibly important subject to bring up.
Thank you for doing so. Geojuring Watch on Org was
the first significant source to publish in twenty twelve because
of our work with former government scientists that insect populations

(14:16):
were collapsing, and the so called science community tried to
marginalize us then to hide the issue. Now they've had
to admit it because they can't hide it anymore. So
we've lost right now today eighty to ninety percent of
global insect populations, terrestrial and aquatic bee populations. Christy, you've

(14:38):
heard the bees are collapsing, right So they just published
in the last few weeks that this year some seventy
percent of the bee populations collapsed. That sounds bad, it
is bad, but what's the real story. That was seventy
percent of the twenty percent that remained, which means we're

(15:00):
down to single digit populations, single digit percentages of b
populations left. What did Einstein say, no bees, no people
within a few years. That's exactly what he's said. And
we're losing insects across the board, and also plankton. Plankton
are down ninety percent in the Atlantic right now, ninety
percent that's the single biggest source of oxygen production of

(15:22):
the planet. So how is climate enguring related? Climate engineering
is destroying the ozone layer. The oxytive particles and the
frequency transmissions that are used to manipulate them are destroying
the ozone layer. Without the ozone layer, we won't be here.
We're down to approximately based on our metering. Our measuring
from a former NASA contract engineer probably he was probably
the most qualified in the world. He recently passed away,

(15:44):
but with equipment we supplied him. Metering UV radiation on
the surface, We're getting UVC on the surface. That is
a very damaging spectrum of UV radiation. It's indicative of
an ozone layer that's about to collapse. We're down to
thirty percent of the ozone layer remaining, not thirty percent gone,
thirty percent remaining. This should be absolute headline news everywhere

(16:08):
every day while they're filling us with smoke and mirrors
of everything else. And we have between the collapsing ozone
layer killing the insects, the toxic rain killing the insects,
the toxic rain killing soil microbiome which is killing tree roots. Christy,
have you seen every time the windblows, trees are tipping
over everywhere, uprooting and tipping over. See it all the time. Now,

(16:31):
that's because their root systems are dying off, just like
their crowns are dying off. And so many people don't
seem to notice. They think, well, we still have Walmart,
we still have McDonald's and Big Max, So what could
be wrong? Right? No environment will people very simple?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, wow, I mean it's so much more serious than
we give it credit for. I mean, we don't talk
about this enough, and it takes these catastrophic events to
revisit this topic unfortunately. But it's not just the immediate
loss of life that we're seeing with the flooding that happened,
but the systemic loss of life. And it's ironic because

(17:07):
the very people that say that they that claim that
they care about the environment seem to be the very
people that are actually the ones destroying it in the
name of supposedly saving the climate. But I want to
get back to that in a moment, because I want to, like,
I want to hear your theory on what you think
contributed to this most recent flooding, because we've seen a

(17:29):
lot of disasters and I guess we'll try and go
through through other situations, but for this most recent flooding event,
what's your theory on how we saw this happen on
such a mass scale, on how the predictions were so wrong?

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Well, we recorded it, so we're not theorizing. We recorded
the frequency transmissions that kept that moisture corraled in one spot.
These your patented technologies we're want guessing and your listeners
can go to gems rewatch dot org and look at
what we just posted at ninety second alert on the
Texas scenario, and we recorded the frequency transmissions that kept

(18:09):
that moisture in place and made sure it fell in
one place. It's under that recent column right there near
the top, a little higher up, I think there on
the on the right column. There, it's on the recent
column on the right, and you'll see it near the top.
There's a there's a ninety second video right there very
top so orchestrating biblical floods. And again within that the

(18:33):
YouTube that's there, you can see the frequency transmissions that
are also used by the way to hold hurricanes in place. Christy,
do you remember Hurricane Harvey that they knew you'd have
to click the YouTube and you can see the frequency
transmissions that will come on and that and it will
show that. But you remember Hurricane Harvey, perhaps that sat
in place for three days and dumped fifty inches of

(18:54):
raindom Texas. How do they know that that was going
to happen seven days in advance. It's the same process
that was just used in Texas. Again, it's the next
rad network of frequency transmitters that were told or just
weather monitoring radars. That's a blatant, glaring lie. Those transmissions
are used to repel the storm moisture. They have a

(19:15):
repelling effect and they can maneuver the storm with that.
And your listeners can search gunjurawatch dot org hurricanes and
they can see we captured that with Hurricane Harvey as well.
It'll come on here in a moment. We captured the
frequency transmissions that held that moisture in place. It's I'm
very surprised we still have access to these loops and
I hope that doesn't change. You see, that sells a

(19:36):
ball of moisture sitting in one spot there. As you
see clearly from the vapor loop radar, you'll see the
transmissions come on in a moment. This is Project Popeye
US so successful controlling rain in Vietnam sixty years ago
that they had to pass the international treaties forbidding this
type of operation. Yet Ted Cruz tells us it's a
conspiracy theory. Ted Cruz has no clue in the truth.

(19:58):
There's the frequency trans missions, there's the ball of moisture
and the other bright spherical shapes around it that held
it in place. Now it's nearing its end and breaking apart.
But as it comes into place there those frequency transmissions
right coming up there hold it in place so that
that moisture, that moisture is consolidated. There you can see

(20:21):
the blue light up transmissions. That's what that is kept
that moisture in place right there. And again that those
are patented technologies. If they search tunes, you can watch
the hurricanes. They can see this on a much clearer
scale in the case of Hurricane Harvey, Hurricane Helene for example,
that was directed into South Carolina. We're dealing with legislators there.

(20:44):
They know this is going on. So the American public
bottom line christy asleep at the wheel, asleep at the
wheel and believing clueless deceptive tools for the power structure
like Ted Kruz, time to wake up up. This is
weather warfare against the US population. And that inmond treaty

(21:05):
that was shown in that video, the Environmental Modification treaty
that was passed internationally after the US was so successful
at controlling the ragin in Vietnam sixty years ago, as
if they can't do it one hundred times more efficiently now.
In that treaty, it did not forbid governments from conducting
these operations over their own populations. Imagine that. So for
those who think that our government I don't care what

(21:26):
the political stripe is. For those who think those who
truly control our government are here to help us, time
to wake up.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
But obviously the glimmering question then becomes Dane, what could
possibly be the motivation? That's why I think it's so
hard to get people to wake up is because they
cannot imagine a scenario where people just want to you know,
other people that are supposed to be watching off our welfare,
want to kill mass amounts of people that they would

(21:54):
want to do it in such a brutal way. So
what is the motivation? Why would they target this area
of Texas? Any thoughts there?

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Again? Time to wake up. For those who don't know
what happened with COVID and that it was the gain
of function characteristic was engineered and published in journal Nature
in twenty fifteen, that they engineered the gain of function
characteristic why and for the medical treatment that was forced
on everyone after that. For those who think that the
power structure is here to help them, they're living in

(22:24):
a delusion. Let's look at former US presidential advisors. Zignubrazinski
advised US presidents from Johnson and we know what an
affair's character. Lyndon Johnson was involved with the JFT assassination
and who knows how much else, Vietnam, everything else, but
from Johnson to twenty seventeen, Zignubrazinski, your listeners can look

(22:46):
this up. It's easy to find online direct quote from
this US presidential advisor. With today's technology, it's far easier
to kill a million people than to control them. We
have the Global Controller stating on the record their goal
of reducing global populations down to five hundred million. That's
a big drop since we're over eight billion right now.

(23:09):
Why would we think they're here to help. Again, we
have fluoride being dumped in our water. If anybody hasn't
seen how they do that in municipalities, they're wearing a
hazmat suit to dump fluoride in our water. Obviously that's
not helping us. And when they put adjuvants in medical
injections of aluminum and mercury, let's stop and think about

(23:30):
that one for just a moment. Aluminum and mercury in
an injection that we're told is quote safe and effective.
Both of those elements are neurotoxins. They're both highly toxic
when you combine them. We have perio viewed study to
prove this. I'm not guessing when you combine those two
elements mercury and aluminum, the toxicity can increase as much

(23:50):
as ten thousand percent. That's peri viewed study. That's one
hundred times worse. Are they really here to help us?
Bottom line is the public is a rapidly increasing liability
to those in power, especially the US population, most of
which are many of which are heavily armed. So again
it's time to shatter the illusion that those in power

(24:12):
are here to help. They're not. And there are many
other objectives along the way to Christy. For example, in
South Carolina that area that was scoured out by the
manipulated flooding of Hurricane Helene. There's lithium deposits there that
the public was not allowing access to fix that problem,
didn't it. Let's look at Dubai a year and a

(24:34):
half ago, when Dubai suggested they were going to ditch
the dollar, the US dollar, what happened in Dubai within days?
Dubai was buried with two years worth of rain in
six hours, within days, just a coincidence. Really, we took
satellite imagery of the day before the day of in Dubai,

(24:54):
and climate injuring operations and frequency transmission manipulation were clearly
visible in the per golf the day before in the
day of. This is covert weather warfare. This is the
crown jewl weapon of the controllers because it's a weapon
with which they can decimate populations without those populations ever
even knowing they're under assault, and they can blame nature.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Unbelievable. So let's talk about some of our leaders. You know,
we have someone like Ted Cruz who is just like, oh,
this is silly, it's just conspiracy theory. But then you
have someone like Marjorie Taylor Green and she's out there
saying she wants to make deadly weather manipulation a felony.
She put out a tweet that she's introducing a bill
that prohibits the injection, release, or just porsion of chemicals

(25:40):
or substances in the atmosphere or the express purpose of
altering weather, temperature, climate, or sud light intensity.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
It will be a felony offense.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
She says that, you know, she's kind of modeling off
what they did in Florida. But then there's you take
a look at the comments, and then again you see
people saying this is a bunch of phone. Well, there's
a loopholes that would still allow even when they do this,

(26:08):
it essentially still allowed the government to who is who
you're saying, is to at fault for actually doing this.
So basically, are these is this legislation, these bills doing anything?
If there's loopholes for our government, who is the ones
probably at fault for doing these kinds of things to
do them?

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Anyway? I mean, thoughts on that.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Great points, Christy, You're bringing up great points, and these
are very important points. First, we're very grateful to Marjorie
for her bringing this forward. Her description was very on
track and accurate, and it does matter. The state legislation
does matter because it's putting this issue on the radar,
and it's not enforceable. These are d D operations that

(26:53):
are considered a matter of quote, national security, and as
far as national security goes, that's not about protecting you
as citizens. That's about protecting those in power and making
sure no one can challenge that power. And that's what
it's about. So although it's not enforceable, although it's just symbolic,
it's still important. It still matters. And about those kinds
of content or comments or other comments again from people

(27:15):
who sincerely are trying to convince themselves that this can't
be happening because the existential threat it poses is simply
too threatening to their paradigm of reality. And we have
primitive psychological defense mechanisms. This is very well documented with psychoanalysis.
The vast majority have these mental firewalls that when you
pose an existential threat to them like this, they simply

(27:37):
shut down. It just can't be I have double PhD
academician colleagues that have stated this to me, it can't
be that bad, because it just can't be that bad.
What kind of a basis is that for a conclusion,
just because you can't face it, it can't be that bad.
Guess what it is that bad. It's worse than that bad.
And this is another factor that's very important. The power

(28:00):
structure is very successfully divided the population on this issue.
So the environmentally conscious left or that segment of society
has been taught and trained, and unfortunately this is true
too many cases. We're trying to change that that anybody
who mentions climate engineering or geoengineering is denying all the
other sources of damage to the planet. That's not true

(28:22):
in our case. We fully acknowledge that. But we're saying,
how can we have any legitimate discussion of climate anything
from any perspective without first and foremost addressing this elephant
in the equation. And that's something all of us should
agree on, because we do have too many on the
other side of the fence that are trying to convince
themselves that the only thing wrong with the climate is
climate engineering, and that's patently false as well. Does the

(28:45):
climate know the difference between a particle from a smokestack
or an exhaust pipe or geosuring jet. It doesn't know
the difference. It's all a part of the problem, but
this intentional intervention is the worst of all by far.
And if we can build that bridge from both sides
to say, how can we discuss the climate legitimately without
addressing this first, we may be able to build an

(29:05):
army and push this issue metaphorically again, an army to light.
If we could expose us, if we can fully push
us out in the open, Christy, we will cause a
shockwave around the world. That will be the proverbial pitchforks
and torches moment. And we need to reach that moment.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
And I think that this is a good time to
remind our viewers that it's only because we have outlets
like lindeltv dot com that we can talk about this.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I mean, I'm definitely.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Used to being pushed off of Facebook, pushed off of YouTube.
It looks like YouTube might be I mean, even you
said you were able to post something on YouTube, so
maybe they're loosening the reins there. But really we rely
on outlets like this to get the truth out there
and to get people talking and to create that army
that we were talking about.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
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And tell our.

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Speaker 1 (31:27):
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Speaker 2 (31:29):
He just went through that crazy trial where they accused
him of defamation. And you know, anybody that tells the truth,
anybody that stands up for truth, is heavily persecuted, and
so he needs to fund that defense and keep this
on the air so we can continue to talk to
people like dam Waggington who are trying and passionate to
try to get the word out and the truth out

(31:51):
about what we're really up against.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Because there are many of us. There are so much
more many of us. That's why they're trying to kill us.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
So as long as we're in powered with the information
we can we can resist.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
On that note, Dane, I'll come back to you.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
I wanted to talk about that, but you said you've
been at this for twenty years.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
What kinds of resistance have you faced? Persecution? How are
you still alive when you're you're speaking the truth?

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Well, certainly those in power are free to do whatever
they want to whoever they want. We know that if
they can take out for those that have seen JFK's
final speech in the line he drew in the sand
with the power structure and he lived about a week
after that, they can do whatever they want. In our
particular case, the only threat or thing in that nature

(32:43):
I've had On the way home at ten o'clock at
night on a Saturday night, the way home from a
large presentation I gave in northern California, I got a
call from a high level EPA official that wanted to
know why I was still banging this drum, and I
made it clear, never stop, don't bother. And again, I
can't not do this. I can't face my children and

(33:05):
not do this. I can't face myself in the mirror.
I've never been a part of the system, and perhaps
that's a part of the equation. I don't know. I've
never given my oath to the system in any way,
shape or form. So again I can't know what their
protocols are and how they operate. I do know from
my friendships with high ranking US military officers, General Albert

(33:29):
stubblebind highest ranking US military officer to speak out about
what really happened on nine to eleven, that I was
told we do have friends behind the curtain also that
want this exposed, that realize it's a death sentence for everyone.
On the current course, no one gets out alive. Those
in power can crawl into their deep underground bunkers. Mark
Zuckerberg can crawl into his one hundred million dollars Hawaiian

(33:52):
underground bunker. They won't live that long on the current course.
It's that bad. We have to change course. We hope
and believe we have allies and friends behind the curtain
as well that understand this will take everyone down. But
whatever the case, there's no place to hide, no place

(34:13):
on the Titanic and people who are cowering in the
shadows because they don't want to be separated from the her,
They don't want to be ostracized from friends and family
for telling the truth. Now is the time when we
decide what we're made of and why we're here, Why
are we here? And again, we're all passengers on the
planetary Titanic. Why hide in your cabin, get on deck,

(34:33):
help to sound the alarm and perhaps we can change
course enough to buy time at minimum? Is that not
worth fighting for?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
What's fascinating to me is my mother has is a
very very smart woman, and she was ahead of the
curve on all of this stuff. I mean, and she
knew just by looking up at the sky something something's
not right, which you would think most people would be
able to put two and two together. But she was
ahead of the crib on this. So when I would,
I've been in we'll say traditional news media for more

(35:06):
than twenty years and so I've been a news anchor
and many newsrooms, and my mother would always be like,
ask your meteorologists, like about these chemtrails, And I'm like, okay, will,
and so I would, and it's just they all would
give me like the same line, Oh well, no, it's
that's silly, like it's just condensation. Like I mean, they
would just always, every single one of them.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Just just blow it off.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
And it was very frustrating because I do have respect
for meteorologists. They have to do get a whole other
degree to be on TV news if you will, and
to look at things and observe, and it's a science
in itself. So how can they be so blind to
that what we're seeing the skies isn't natural. What we're

(35:51):
seeing the skies has not always been there. I mean,
you look at pictures, old pictures. You don't see what
you see in the skies now. So how can they
be so blind?

Speaker 5 (36:02):
These are great questions. And should we call it a
degree or a certificate of indoctrination from a power structure
controlled institution? And that's exactly what it is. So whether
these people believe their denial or not is irrelevant. When
we have a whole medical industry, the entire medical industry,

(36:22):
with almost no exceptions, still pretending that their concoction of
injections are quote safe and effective. That's an exact parallel
to the quote meteorological community denying. What we have film
footage of. What I ask people listening to do is
don't believe me, certainly, don't believe the power structure program meteorologists.

(36:43):
Believe what you see with your own eyesight and your
own sense of reason. We have film footage of these aircraft,
Nozzo's visible turning just persons on and off end of debate.
This is not quote condensation. And further, all military tankers
and all commercial aircraft are fitted with what's known as
a high bypass turbofanjet engine. That's a jet powered fan.

(37:06):
Ninety percent of the year that moves through that engine
is not combusted. By design, it's nearly incapable of making
any condensation trail accept an a rare and extreme circumstances.
Do we see if we watch a documentary about some
Arctic researcher and their breath is condensing, do we see
a cloud start to form over their head it lingers
and spreads out. Or of a vehicle. If you live

(37:29):
in a cold region and your vehicle is emitting condensation
in the morning and you're letting it warm up and
your driveway, does a cloud start to form over your house? Really,
this is particulate matter. These are sprayed particular dispersions, period
and again not guessing. Geogen Watch Thedorg spent over one
hundred thousand dollars taking a NOA flying lab to altitude,
all on film, all on the record, all in our

(37:51):
groundbreaking documentary The Dimming, with over twenty six million views
on it now on YouTube in spite of censorship, and
we proved that these heavy aircraft are admitting climate engineering
elements starting with aluminum. And in that film there's also
two US Air Force generals acknowledging these programs, former Canadian
Minister of Defense acknowledging these programs, former government officials, former

(38:15):
government scientists. We're asking people to actually investigate and not
to tell themselves that if they ignore this issue long enough,
if they tell themselves it isn't so it'll magically go away.
That's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
So moving on to another topic, We've had a lot
of extreme events. We've talked about hurricanes, We've talked about
the flooding that just happened.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
What about these wildfower fires?

Speaker 2 (38:45):
I covered what happened in Maui and Hawaii and the
many I was actually in California living there, being a
news anchor there in California when we had some wildfires.
Then you hear all kinds of theories. Though when it
comes to wildfires, how is this related to weather control
or weather manipulation? You know, because you also hear people

(39:07):
saying that there's lasers.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
That start these wildfires.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
So can you tell me the correlation of how these
can be related to weather manipulation as well.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
Another great question. In the case of the wildfires, they're
most completely connected to climate engineering, more than any other
factor by far. This is where the so called environmental
community is in criminal to not denial as well. Because
on a warming planet, the planet is warming, it's a
total meltdown. Climate engineering is making it worse, not better.

(39:38):
And I'm no Al Gore fan. I'm no fan of
any environmental group. They're all behaving with criminal hypocrisy. None
of them will address the climate engineering issue because they
want to protect their five O one seat three nonprofit
and we know that because Geojury Watch, thatt Org attorneys
spoke to attorneys from every major environmental group WWFCR Club,
green Peace, all the rest. They wan't address this issue
because they don't want to lose their nonprofit status. That

(40:00):
is criminal hypocrisy. So I'm no fan of any of them.
But the planet is in total meltdown. Climate engineering is
making it worse overall, not better. So the atmosphere holds
seven percent more moisture for every degree sea of warming.
We're likely past three point five c from baseline right now.
It must rain much much more overall in a warming planet,

(40:21):
and it's not we have much more protracted drought than
we have Texas Delus. There's a factor we're not being
told about. That factors climate engineering, and they can and
they are cutting off precipitation intentionally. We can again speculate
on the agendas and objectives, but they are cutting off
precipitation to places like Lahina, for example, which was declared

(40:42):
a quote flash drought zone one week before it was incinerated.
The climate engineers, by manipulation of atmospheric pressure zones, can
and are This is through frequency transmissions like harp in Alaska,
IONUS for heater and other mobile units. We have sea
based X band radar. They can create surface wind flows

(41:03):
zone windflows, which we see all the time now Hurricane four,
straight line winds like they did to Lahina, like they
did to the Palisades, which is basically blow torching those
regions after they've dried them out. The Palisades didn't have
rain for about eight months before that happened. So the
source of ignition and all the claims made there, that's
a separate subject completely. And those that start throwing the

(41:27):
laser bit around, don't know anything about laser physics. Are
there military weapons that could start a fire from an
airborne platform? Yes, can they do the rest of what's
being claimed, No, laser anything doesn't work with any particular
matter in the air, whether it's smoke clouds or anything else.

(41:47):
And all these claims are patently false. The ground based
unit that it would take to do anything even remotely
close to that weighs one point eight million pounds. It
takes eighteen semi trucks to move with that's not flying around.
So when people bring up that narrative, they're obscuring and
discrediting the issue of climate engineering, which is the foundational
factor that is setting the template for these fires to

(42:08):
burn with such ferocity. To add to this, Christie at
Junjing watch it or we found in military archives and
posted a US military document titled forced Fires as a
Military Weapon or Wildfires as a Military Weapon. In that document,
one hundred and forty pages long, it describes specifically cutting
off the precipitation with climate intervention operations to prepare an

(42:32):
area to burn with maximum ferocity. And within that document
it names seventeen sites for study zones inside the US borders,
including LA. Is that not alarming? Is that not alarming
as hell? For people that think that those in power
are here to protect them and their posterity, please wake up.

(42:54):
That's not the case. And we have again documented proof
of satellite imagery of these aircraft cutting our precipitations, specifically
to the US West Coast. One of my presentations from
eleven twelve years ago engineered drought catastrophe target California. That
is exactly correct data today. I've had personal meetings in

(43:16):
the Capitol with Governor Newsom and his top aid, presented
data to them which they couldn't refute, didn't refute. And
yet what has Gavin done. Nothing. He's a tool for
the power structure, that's all he is. That's all of
these people are at this level. They're going to do
what they're told to do, period, while the rest of
us bear the consequences.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
So obviously this is a hard question to answer. But
who are these people? I mean, how many people do
think know what they're doing? Like those that are behind
the controls that are working what you've described. Do you
think that there are a lot of people that are
just following orders that maybe don't know what they're doing.

(43:58):
How big of a group of peopleeople are are there?
Do you think that are making these life changing decisions?

Speaker 5 (44:06):
You're completely correct, completely correct, another excellent question. The vast,
vast majority are compartmentalized and convinced that whatever part in
the play they're carrying out, it's somehow for the greater good.
We know this from the Milgrim experiments for those who
don't know what those are very shocking experiments with humans

(44:30):
people that were told by someone they thought it was
an authority to administer a lethal shock to another human being,
which they did, didn't really carry out. It wasn't a
real shock, but they thought it was. What that proved
was that ninety percent of the human race will do
whatever they're told, even to an innocent human being, if

(44:54):
they believe they're being told by someone in authority to
do so. So, yes, it's completely compartmentalized. Let's take the
spring of Agent Orange in Vietnam. Was the pilot of
the plane spraying Agent Orange told hey, this is going
to kill your pal on the ground. Of course not.
Of course he wasn't told that. So again we have
too many people too willing to blindly follow whatever order

(45:17):
they're given, and at the very top of this pyramid
of insanity. Who's at the very top? Who are they?
Who are that they I am referring to? It's those
who can make money.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
And that's why I was like, how do I even
ask this? It's like she always comes back to that,
doesn't it. It always comes back to who are they?

Speaker 5 (45:37):
Correct? And I'll follow that up with why would they
do this to themselves? So as far as who are they,
they are those who print the money. Those who control
the flow of money control everything. They control militaries, thus,
they control countries, They control elected puppets like Ted Cruz.
They control institutions which they fund or don't fund. As

(45:58):
we just saw. Anybody who protests certain things, they don't
want them to protest, universities included, their funding is cut
off immediately. Those who print the money control it all.
The political theater is exactly that, it's a theater. And
as far as those and many people, and Christy, you've
probably heard, there's people that walk away from this issue
because they simply say they wouldn't do this to themselves.
You must have heard that before.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Right, Yeah, yeah, so I've heard that.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Let's examine that question. What have they done to themselves already,
the detonation of twenty four hundred nuclear bombs on planet Earth,
which is contaminated virtually everything on this planet. Don't they
know they work after a couple dozen twenty four hundred
plus nuclear bombs, and we're building a lot more. Right now,
Let's take Fukushima, triple nuclear meltdown, no technology to fix it,

(46:44):
no end in sight. Many people think Fukushima is all better.
Couldn't be further from the truth. So that by itself
is an existential threat if other factors don't do the
job first, which I would argue in the current course,
will be the case. So let's plug that into geo
engineering again. And climate eagineering is destroying the protective layers
of the atmosphere, starting with the ozone layer. Now we're

(47:04):
much more susceptible to a chronal mass ejection or a
solar flare. If we get a big event like the
Carrington event in eighteen hundreds, that will shut down grids
around the globe, that will shut down the ability of
nuclear power plants to cool themselves. Now we're going to
have Fukushima times two hundred. We have four hundred and
forty two nuke plants around the globe now, so we're

(47:26):
going to have hundreds of fukushimas game over climate engineering
connected to that as well, and we're building sixty more
nuke plants right now. Why would they do this to themselves?
Why would they build more nuclear bombs? And we have
enough to exterminate humanity thousands of times over right now,
we're not dealing with sanity. Those in power are not saying.
They are power addicts. And we know from psychoanalysis specifically

(47:49):
of those in power, there's a common thread. This is
right for the manual, a quote near total lack of
comprehension as to the consequences of their actions, even to themselves.
There's an addic care the next fix might be kill them.
They don't care. So for those who try to convince
themselves that they wouldn't do this to themselves, they already have.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah, we're like you said, we're not dealing with saying
that people. Are you encouraged to though that there is
now more acceptance to the point that a congress woman
would introduce legislation to make it a felony to have
whether manipulation, whether or not that legislation could be effective,
but to the point that you know someone in government

(48:30):
would acknowledge that this is, no, not not a conspiracy,
That the governor of Florida would acknowledge that, no, this
is not an experiencing a conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Is that encouraging to you?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Do you feel like we're on a path to finally
raising awareness and hopefully doing something about this.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
Very encouraging. Another great question, It's very important. When I
started this journey over twenty years ago, I only heard
my own voice coming back at No one listened to
anything I said, no matter how much data I had,
no matter how much testing proof I bared, no one listened.
And now there's legislation wheels turning in about thirty six

(49:14):
states right now. We deal with legislators all the time
now in this issue, becoming very hard for those in
power to hide what's happening. A lot more weeks in
the dam are starting to develop that they don't have
enough fingers and toes to plug. Here's the danger we
face now as those in power, we realize there are
a point where this is about to be exposed to

(49:37):
gain every person on the planet knowing what their governments
have done to them without their knowledge or their consent.
What cards will they play then? And what we said
at changing and watch dot org for sixteen years of
our existence, and that organization that once the biosphere collapse,
beats the power structure to the intersection, once the population

(49:57):
begins to wake up to what's been done to them,
they'll play big cards, false flag events, pathogen release, and
global conflict. They're not going to go peacefully into the night.
They're not. They have big cards and they will play them.
So what's in our rain right now? Besides the toxic
heavy metals I name, we also have polymer fibers and
graphene that's in our rain. And not only have those

(50:20):
elements toxic, they're used militarily for what's called a biological
carrier platform that means to carry a pathogen from the
clouds to the ground. We have the world's second most
recognized climate engineer, doctor Ken caldera former Department of Defense scientists.
We own an audio of him stating in his own
words what he did for the USDOD was to design
methods of spring pathogens into clouds to infect the populations. Below.

(50:44):
What do we have with CV nineteen. We had eighty
five countries infected in three days. That's indicative of airborne dispersion.
We have Italian scientists that identified CEV nineteen attached to
airborne particulates. Do not all these dots connect completely lately?
So if those in power know they're about to lose
that power or the public's about to reach the proverbial

(51:06):
pitchforks and torches moment, what's to stop them from using
what's already in this spray mix in our skies, these
biological carrier platforms and adding something like marbred or ebola,
which would level the playing field overnight ninety percent mortality
rates with those pathogens. So why would we think they
would do this? We have hundreds of biolabs around the

(51:27):
globe experimenting with these exact pathogens, and we have the
Washington Post Christy stating as far back as nineteen seventy seven,
even that far back Washington Post on the record, the
US military had, as of that late at that date,
conducted no less than two hundred and thirty nine open
air biological tests on innocent anknowing US civilians. How many

(51:50):
tests have they done since then?

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yeah, it's just so much.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
And you know, and they say, I always say, at
the beginning of every show that solutions and hope, and
so we're kind of on a like negative. I mean,
it's important for us to understand, I want, we need
to be empowered with information.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
But yeah, what can you leave us with?

Speaker 5 (52:11):
That's values first, now's the here's the end of the
equation that makes us all understand how important we are
in this equation. And this is the end, This is
the end epilogue of the Dimming documentary. That any one
of us could be the final grain of sand to
trigger the landslide of awakening if we can, if we

(52:32):
can reach that point, we will take a quantum leap
in the right direction, and any one of us could
be that final grain of sand. If you share credible
data from a credible source, don't just run out in
the street and point to the sky and start ranting.
We're playing chess. We need to learn how to play well.
So if one person shared credible data with two people
in the beginning of a thirty day month, and those

(52:53):
two each the second day, and that continues for thirty days,
you end up with millions of people. We literally my
math is not wrong. So again, people grossly underestimate their
personal power. Those in power, aren't gods, and we're not helpless.
And if we push this issue to the full light
of day, the fur will fly. And how do we

(53:15):
actually stop these operations when we push this again to
a critical mass point and those participating and their families
military families, defense contractor families, when they realize that they're
literally participating in their own near term demise, one would
hope there's enough sense of reason and moral fortitude left

(53:36):
to stand down and stop participating. And that is the
way forward. And all of us are desperately needed to
help in that battle. And once you start to wake
people up around you, you don't feel helpless anymore, and
you start to build a support system around yourself. And
we try to help that at Junior and watch it
or we do. We supply very high quality printed materials.

(53:57):
There's no politics, no advertising, it's only this issue that
we're all in this for the fight only. And if you,
for example, or you can share links for free from
the homepage the Dimming, which we made available for free
in spite of what we spent on that film and
made it available for free the day we were done.
You share credible data and you wake people up around you,
and even that by itself, Christy, when you know you

(54:17):
had a hand in waking someone up to actually seeing
the wider horizon clearly and raising their consciousness, that by
itself matters in ways. I would argue, we can't know
or understand, but if enough people wake up and we
can stop these programs from the inside out, we'll have
taken a quantum leap in the right direction, will allow
the planet to respond on its own to the damage done,

(54:38):
and that will that minimum bias time to focus on
the rest and that's worth fighting for.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yes, absolutely, that is a great way to on the topic.
Dane at Whittington, I am good Wingington Wiggington.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Yeah, sorry bout that.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Thank you so much for your expertise and for that
encouragement at the end, and we want to follow up
with you and make sure that we're apprized and helping
get that word out.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
So thank you so much. I encourage people to go
to gew.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Engineering dot org and watch the links there. You can
donate support the work there because it is all about
waking people up.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
So thank you so much, Dane, Thank you Christy.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
It's actually gemagam watch dot org. I just want to
make sure that clear so that they don't end up
in a different seight. Engineering in the same gratitude to
you to the Lindelle channel. It's voices like yours that
help us get the word out. This is a team
effort again, all of us spokes in the wheel, all
of us necessary to make it roll. So it's a
team effort. Very grateful to you, to your followers, and

(55:37):
we will continue to do our part on this end.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Excellent.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
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