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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today we've got Lori Colley from The Praying Citizen back
with powerful prayer points on the headlines rock in the Nation.
She's diving deep into Trump's IVF support. Is it a
moral win or a hidden dark side? Should your tax
dollars be funding it? And what is the deal with surrogacy?
Plus how should pro lifers feel about this whole thing?
Then we're joining forces with one of the disinformation does
(00:20):
in doctor Ben Tapper, who's bringing the heat on the
Biden decline cover up and the suspicious timing of his
cancer announcement. News you need to know with solutions and hope.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
This is get free with Christi Lee.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
All right, it is a terrific Tuesday to continue in
my mission to bring you the news but from a
biblical world you and who better to join me in
that effort than Lori Colley of The Praying Citizen. She
and her husband Bob write and produce the Praying Citizen
newsletter to keep patriots and true seecrets updated on current events.
With her husband, they soar through the noise and nonsense
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to provide excellent content and prayer points on politics and culture.
So welcome back, Lourie, Thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Thank you for letting me be here, especially today, because
this one has been on my heart for a long time.
I think there are a lot of people like me
who had no idea. IVF sounds like a good thing.
I have a friend who we were both pregnant with
our first children at the same time. She had trouble
getting pregnant, but she was able to and then her
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daughter has had problems getting pregnant, so she used IVF
and has now has two kids. And you know, I'm
happy for her. I'm happy. I'm a pro life person.
I love when God greats's new life, especially to somebody
I care about. There's a very, like you said, a
very dark side to IVF. So I thought, let's look
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at it. Let's look at the topic. Because President Trump
intends to expand IVF. He wants to either require insurers
to cover it for couples it's like twelve to twenty
five thousand dollars around to get pregnant apparently, and then
he also would like to cover it as a you know,
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an expense of the federal government. So we have lots
of childless couples, we have women waiting longer and longer
to have a baby, and then it's harder to get pregnant.
So you know, my heart is that everyone that wants
children would have them, But I believe it's in God's
timing and that sometimes there's an issue that needs to
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be removed. You know, before God opens the womb, he
says He's the one who opens and closes the womb.
But now we have technology, and is it always a
good thing? So I thought we might start with this
little clip of President Trump talking about IVF, and I
think this one is from the campaign. This was a
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promise that he made the Trump administration.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Your government will pay for or your insurance company will
be mandated to pay for all costs associated with IVF
treatment fertilization for women IVF to because we want more babies,
to put it very nicely, and for the same reason,
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we will also allow new parents to deduct major newborn
expenses from their taxes so that parents that have a
beautiful baby will be able. So we're pro family. Nobody's
ever said that before.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Yeah, it's such a tough call because obviously this is
a very popular executive order really on both sides of
the aisle, that he would come behind this, and I like,
you want to welcome in new life, of course.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
At all times, but I didn't know what I know today,
and I'm having a tough time discerning some of the
things that we're finding out. But you've done the research,
so please please share more.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
All right. Well, he ordered back in February that a
group come up with some suggestions about IVF and how
the government could fund it or whatever. So that's due
this month. Now we haven't heard anything more about it,
but he said mid May. I think he gave them
ninety days or something like that. So then we had
some interesting things happen. Hillary went on a rant. I
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don't know if you saw the clip. She criticizes Americans
for wanting to have children because she thinks that's the
worst thing a woman could ever do, and instead she
suggests that we just allow immigrants to replace our failing population.
I read just before I came on the show that
Russia has hit a two hundred year low in birth
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rates two hundred years and they have lost all these
young men to the war. We have failing birth rates.
We are not replacing ourselves in this country. So then
I believe it was on Friday this guy goes of
twenty five year old goes and blows up a fertility
clinic in California. So he's twenty five years old. He wrote,
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we must finally begin the process of sterilizing this planet
of the disease of life. Well, you know, I mean
the guy's office rocker, and he's gone now, but there
were five other people injured. And then my question was, well,
what about if this is a fertility clinic, then what
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do they have in the clinic. They have free full
of embryos, right, so if the embryos had been destroyed,
would that be a story? Because those are little children,
little babies they have, they're just not implanted yet in
a womb. So I thought, you know, we should maybe
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take a look at this Trump trying to raise the
birthrate in this country through IVF. But you know, as
hard is right, but maybe in the eyes of God,
this is not the thing that we should be doing.
So next, I've got a couple of little ones on
Instagram and I think the other one one was on
x These are two images of some of the fallout
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from IVF and surrogacy. So if we could put those up,
I don't know if you have those image there we go.
So there on the left, you see this woman sitting
there and she says, the surrogacy concern is a is
a a group that's against IVF. It says a reminder,
women as young as eighteen or having their eggs harvested,
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so people in their forties, fifties, and sixties can buy
donor eggs. In the US, many young women do it
to pay their university tuition. And then you see they're
on the right, these two guys, I mean, they're like
grandpa age and they bought some eggs, rented a womb,
and now they have a baby. So the next question is, well,
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you may not be around to raise this child, but
maybe you're expecting this child to be your caregiver when
you get older. I think that's you know, that's a
good question to ask. And then insurgency, you have the
problem of creating three mothers. So you have the biological
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you know, whoever's contributing the egg. Then you have the
egg being implanted in a rental womb. You have the
birth mother, you know, which is the product, so she's
carrying the baby. And then finally the third one is
the social mother because the baby ends sometimes ends up
in a home where the woman is not related to
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the baby at all. And then if it's two homosexual men,
obviously there's no mom at all. And it's basically it's
commercial deprivation of a child's rights because if you look
at adoption, in adoption, the child is considered the client,
but in surrogacy and IVF, whatever adult wants the child
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that is the client. And so it's a very consumer
driven industry, and you have children that end up wondering
who do I belong to? You know, who are my parents?
And consider too, if you've got like that girl in
the picture, she's producing eggs and she's you know, let's
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say she produces twenty five eggs, they all they're going
to be if they're come to fruition to a child,
then these kids have dozens of siblings that they don't
know anything about. And then the men donating their sperm
there could be hundreds or thousands of children that are
related and that just you know' that's frightening. So surrogacy
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creates a false ownership mentality. It's like the right to
acquire a child. And even in a monogamous Christian marriage,
one man, one woman, the couple have to decide what
they're going to do with the embryos that don't get implanted,
So they're either sent off to research and that's horrifying,
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or they're kept frozen in suspended animation as long as
the couple can afford to pay whatever it's called the
rental on these frozen units. In every case, it's the
desire of the adult that supersedes the right of the child.
So because Trump wants to deregulate, he wants to deregulate
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all of this in order to increase our birth right. Well,
where do you draw the line what is okay and
what goes beyond? You know, we already have same sex marriage,
So where are we going to stop with surrogacy? I
think it creates some issues, and so let's go to
this next clip and then we can talk about what's
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happening with these two, this lesbian couple.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Did you do IVS so that you could get data
on your embryos?
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Yeah, we had twenty six embryos good to go, but
we did a whole new round just to be able
to do this because it's so much additional information.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
I see, these embryos have health scores, ranging from like
negative point ninety six to like one point nine.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
The titsan here who turned out to be the one
we selected, had the best score from our own internal
like additional data calculations and genoman predictions best.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
So this is eugenics via IVF twenty six embryos twenty
six human beings made in the image of God on
ice that will probably be discarded, and then they're selecting
them based on these scores that they have calculated. I mean,
this is eugenics. We should be thinking and talking a
lot more about the ethics of the reproductive industry in
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what really goes on when it comes to the creation
and the selection of these people.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
It's so heavy. I mean, that's why you can't just
look at this at face value. In it, you can't
let emotions take over on the front end of like, well,
you know, I mean, because there's so many I can
relate to the heartbreak of trying to get pregnant and it,
you know, or even getting pregnant in the loss of
a miscarriage. You know, I've been through both seasons of
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my life and you wouldn't wish that upon anyone. And
so but if we lead with emotion on allowing our
discernment in this issue, you lose out on all these
other very heavy topics like Ali's Decky was just staying there.
I mean, that is a heartbreaking way to look at it,
that we are normalizing eugenics selection, and not only that,
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but we're normalizing babies as a commodity. So you know,
when we acknowledge that these embryos are made in the
image of God like she says, and human life, and
we're even allowing Trump to back something like this up,
the buying and selling of human life of babies. But
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at the same time we're trying to take a hard
stance against child trafficking. It's like, wow, this is heavy
that like, where do we draw the line.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
It's such a good point. So here's another story. Just
you're talking about child trafficking. So there's this homosexual couple,
Mark Newton and Peter Trong. So he's one of them
as an American and the other one was or is
an Australian. They hired a Russian woman to be their
rent a womb for an IVF conceived child. They paid
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her eight thousand dollars to carry the baby. After he
was born, they immediately began violating. I mean, he's days
old and they're already starting to abuse him. And then
for six years, until the child is six years old,
they traveled the world trafficking him. You know, I've heard
Tom Homan say that usually children only live for three
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years when they're trafficked because their bodies just can't hold
up to the abuse. Well, this child lived for six
years and then they I don't know how they were found,
but the cops got them in Los Angeles and they
took the child who's six years old and put them
in you know, some kind of care. And these two
men are serving prison sentences. But you know, to me,
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that's where the death penalty comes in. Yeah, that's one
place where I mean, I'm sorry, but that that should
go without saying that if, if it's a if, it's
solid case death penalty. So because there's no there's no
one to police any of this stuff, all right, So
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that's one problem. Now there are other problems with IVF.
Only about seven percent of the embryos created are ever born.
That is a pitiful, pitiful percentage. We have ninety three
percent that are you know, they're either destroyed, they're given
away for research, or they are some of them are adopted,
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or they're frozen. There are at least one point five
million embryos right now that are stored indefinitely until people
can't afford to pay the freezer price. And you know,
who knows if those you know, what would that be
like to be created, because we know there's that spark
of life when the sperm in the egg come together
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and a life is created in the image of the Lord,
and then to be in you know, for decades in
suspended animation. I don't I don't understand that IVF is
highly dangerous for children. It doesn't help these moms who
can't get pregnant. I had twins when I was thirty seven,
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so it is possible, you know, with no help. That
was just that was a fluke. Those were my third
and fourth children. But you know, infertility, you don't have
to be infertile as you get older. So if we
but if we resort to IVF, no one is getting
healed in any of this. We're just creating more problems.
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In adoption, children are considered client, like I said earlier,
because and then in IVF, the clients are the paying customers,
so they drive this whole industry that's now called big fertility,
and there's huge financial incentive for companies to participate in
this whole thing. IVF is painful for the women it
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because they have to be ovulating, and then they can't
ovulate except when the eggs are being harvested, which is
a horrible term to use. So I guess it's very
painful to have these swollen ovaries but you're not allowed
to ovulate. I can't even imagine. It's like, you know,
having contractions. Let's see. So then because you know, you
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have the most I don't know, the kindest form of
IVF would be husband and wife that want a baby
that can't get pregnant, and so IVF provides that, but
we still have all these extra embryos that you know,
they're just whatever, what do you even call it? They're
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just they're conceived children, but they have nowhere to go, okay,
And then the next step would be, you know, you
can just keep getting farther and farther away from the
two biological parents, and the farther away you get, the
more the chances are that those children are going to
be abused, because especially when there's absolutely no biological connection,
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and there's no screening, like adoptive parents are screened, but
surrogacy and that whole IVF thing, nobody's screened. So what
often happens is if there's a child that's produced, that
is born that has a physical issue, then the child
gets abandoned. The people who paid for the child don't
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want the child, the mother who carried the child till
birth doesn't want the child, and it just ends up,
you know, being this award of the state. I guess
that's why places like Thailand have prohibited any form of
a surrogacy. So we have a conundrum as pro lifers.
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We support life, but IVF forces us to condone death.
When Trump made that campaign promise, they took a poll.
Eighty two percent believe health insurance should cover IVF and
seventy four percent of Americans believe insurers should be required
to pay for IVF for women who have issues conceiving.
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But what happens, what ends up happening, is you've got
women who wait longer and longer and longer to start
a family. They are in their thirties, they're already having
their eggs frozen. Because some companies like Disney will pay
for that, and you have a slight increase in births
of women over thirty five, but then the birth rate
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under thirty five is falling, so it makes just making
things worse. You know, I don't know what the answer is.
I'm pro life. I believe maybe if you can't get pregnant,
you should look at adopting, because there are lots of children,
especially sibling units that are in you know, they're in
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foster care waiting to be adopted, and possibly that's that
would be God's plan for you, rather than having your
own biological children. But either way, the syrogacy industry is exploding.
It's expected to increase one thousand percent by twenty thirty two,
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and ninety percent of the people that use a surrogacy
are are picking our designer, choosing their offspring. It starts
with sex girl versus boy, and then it gets you know,
gets off the rails. After that, it just keeps getting
worse and worse and worse. You have elderly couples looking
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to have a surrogate give birth to a baby so
that they can have help once they get older. And
there was a case in England where a couple the
whole thing fell apart because they went to another country,
I can't remember what country, some third world na should
have a baby, and the whole thing fell apart. And
it turned out that all that couple wanted the baby
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for was to take care of them as they got older.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
And then pedophilia is becoming very common. There are entire
organizations devoted to delivering custom ordered babies to men, none
of which will have to submit to a background check
or fingerprinting.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's unbelievable that there would be no screening. I mean,
it's wild that, like you said, that we would care
about and there's laws in place for the welfare of children,
except for somehow when you can pay for it, Like,
it's hard to wrap your mind around.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
And we know that this is the age where people
just get what they want. They go to Starbucks and
if you know, they get the order wrong, they're they're
going to tear the place up. This is the mentality
where we've lost our ability to even weigh and consider
is this something I should even want to do? Is
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this right? Is this fair to a child? Well, last
year the Alabama Supreme Court looked into the IVF issue
and they were accused of banning it. Well, actually what
they did was they ruled in favor of babies created
by IVF by establishing that clinics destroying embryos could be
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sued for the death of these children d and by
the parents. The clinics responded by closing their doors unless
they were given broad immunity to make mistakes with the
children they created.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Again, things can happen too. What if you have a
power outage, do they have generators keeping the you know,
I mean Alabama has terrible, terrible uh weather. They have
a lot of not hurricanes, well they do have some hurricanes,
but thunderstorms and tornadoes, you know, and stuff gonna happen.
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It's just like, oh my gosh. So nearly all surrogate
relationships are commercial, just to keep that in mind, and
a lot of you know, and it always starts with IVF.
It is child trafficking and and there's no one to
regulate what happens to those those babies because it's it's
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all financial. It's a finance decision. So some things to
think about. There are seventeen states that recognize that a
fetus as a person. That's not very many. So if
they recognize a penis as a person. You know, an
embryo is right in there. Should that same status be
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granted to embryos? You can do that, and then what
and then what do you do with these embryos that
are created in IVF. The Trump administration as opposed to abortion,
but this could make things worse. So I'm proposing that
at the very least, there should be extreme vetting on
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parents and people that want to do this. But we're
going to end up having we already know, you know,
homosexual couples are allowed to adopt, and I have my
own opinion about that, and I'm sure you do too,
but it can get it just goes worse and worse
and worse from there. We heard about that homosexual couple
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of men that were in Georgia that we're trafficking. This
was recently, that we're trafficking children that I believe they
had adopted or were fostering. It's going to be, you know,
it's going to happen. But at least with more vetting,
we can hopefully stop it and then investigate. You know,
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another thing is investigate fertility issues. The pill can make
people infertile, so maybe you know, women should be told,
you know, if they're going to have sex, make sure
you understand that if you're on the pill, this could
hamper your ability to conceive later on. And there are
other options that are natural that you don't have to
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rely on something that messes with your hormones. There's a
great interview. Are you familiar with Lila Rose? She is
it's that Catholic organization. I forget what it's called called
Life something. Anyway, she's I follow her on on X
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and she has an interview with It's called natural Cures
for miscarriage and infertility. You know, there are natural cures,
and there are doctors that they think they call it
restorative reproduction, and so those doctors help people overcome their issues. So,
you know, let's start there. Heal the reproductive system instead
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of trying to circumvent it, and then encourage young people
to marry early and start families because young people usually
don't have any issues with getting pregnant. And then when
this whole thing comes out, we'll find out what Trump's
going to do, don't We don't know, We don't you know.
I think it's probably a bigger task than anybody thought,
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you know, bigger more than they could chew anyway, as
far as looking at all the issues and making recommendations.
So when it comes out those of us that are
pro life and see that issues with IVF, you know,
let your congressmen know, your congressman women, and your senators.
I'm going to put all of this in a newsletter
one of these days when Donald Trump is not quite
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so busy making so much news, so you can. You
can go to Loricolly dot substack dot com and sign up.
It's free, and eventually I will get this in a newsletter.
And you know, just because we have to be well
informed or we are going to you know, what are
we doing If we're not aware of what's going on?
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We can't stand for God and we were not making
our voices heard. I mean, that's part of what Jesus
said to occupy until he returns. So I think this
is something that we all got to do. And so
I thought, you know, if you have any question, I
don't know that I can answer any questions, but is
there anything Christy that you see related to this that
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strikes you as something?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
You know?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Further, there's so.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Much, There's so much, and what it tells me is
that it's a topic that because we have a never
ending news cycle and so much is going on that
sometimes we miss the deeper end of major topics like this.
I mean, this deals with life, and there's so many
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implications ultimately all leading back to the common denominator is
the safety and sanctity of life. I mean, it just
turns my stomach when you hear about children life being
created as a commodity. And Trump is kind of and
the Trump administration, I mean it's kind of famous for uh,
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deregulation for business. But let let's not make babies and
life big business. I mean that there that is something
that actually needs more regulation, not less. And so if
he's going to take these initiatives, it's going to need,
as you said, so much more regulation. There's absolutely no
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reason why we can't have more vetting, more screening, more
follow up, because these four innocent babies are being brought
into the world, uh through a eugenics style system, and
then there's no there's no follow up. There's there's, like,
like you said, at least with adoption, there is an advocate.
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Who are these babies advocate?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
You know?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
And when we go back to the Bible, he constantly
talks about the love of children and loving the least
of these and serving the least of these. I mean,
these are certain the least, certainly the least of these,
and they're lacking an advocate right now. And so it's
such an important topic. I'm so glad that you dug
so deeply into it, because it isn't an easy one
because at face value, we are pro life, as you said,
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but we're or the protection of life, and if this
is a dangerous way that lives are being created, then
it certainly needs our attention.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's like, if we're going to spend all this emotional
energy and law enforcement and just billions of dollars going
after child traffickers, well why don't we not create child
traffickers in the first place, you know, and the victims.
So yeah, so yeah, I thought, well, you know, I
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would end up with a scripture and a prayer, if
that's okay with you. Yes, so the scripture, you know,
Psalms twenty nine too. But thou art he that took
me out of the womb. You didn't make me hope.
When I was upon my mother's breasts, I was cast
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upon the from the womb thou art my God from
my mother's belly. Yeah, oh beautiful, thank you for printing that.
And God expects us, I believe to just remember that
even these babies that are not that are not conceived
in a womb, but in it there is you know,
I think they call it a They have a pretty
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interesting name for it, a crystal cradle or something like that,
you know, where these babies are created in the in
the petri dish basically, but they're still got, you know,
beautiful creations of God. And then it's just sad that
there has to be so much fallout from this. But yeah,
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I'll go ahead and pray. You know, Father God, we
come to you in the name of Jesus, and we
just asked forgiveness for taking life so lightly.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
You are the.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Creator of all things, and we are so sorry about
these babies that are stuck in limbo or destroyed in research,
or who are brought into this world only to be
trafficked and enslaved by adults. We have not honored the
gift that you entrusted to us, and we forgive. We
ask you to forgive us. Father. You open the womb,
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and you close the womb, so we pray for every
woman who's watching this right now, and all the father
would be fathers that would love to have children. Show
them Father, if there is a reason why you've closed
the womb, and we pray that they would they would
be able to recognize and repent and have you restore
fertility to them. We also ask that you would put
in the heart of childless couples to adopt, to give
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them the strength to raise up children in your word, Father,
and give them the resources that we need. And we
also pray for our president, who we are so grateful for,
but we believe he's ignorant in this area. We ask
that you would show him all the dangers of IVF
and that our legislators would come up with some very
good regulations to protect all children in Jesus' name. Amen.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Amen, Yeah, that's so good and something that we need
to have continued prayer over. And as you said, take
not just pray, but take action. What is it that
God's asking you to do to address this problem, Whether
it be contacting your representatives making sure that this message
is heard loud and clear and widely, or maybe it's
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helping out at a local pregnancy crisis center. You know,
what position can you put yourself in. Are you a
family that has been trying to get pregnant, Maybe instead
of investing in IVF, maybe it is the time to
invest in your health. Like you said, let's get after
the root cause of why fertility has been difficult, and
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while you're waiting adopt. I can't tell you how many
meet like I have personal friends, a few personal friends
who chose adoption, and actually a family member as well
who chose adoption when they had difficulty getting pregnant. In
all those cases is off the top of my head,
it was when they adopted that they suddenly got pregnant.
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So sometimes it's like yes, and so you can see
that both ways. I think a god thing for sure,
Maybe God had a point for those parents to be
the parents of a child that was waiting. And also
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maybe just biologically, I think that when the stress is
taken off of getting pregnant and you have a baby
to be maternal or paternal over it kind of does
wonders for the hormones. Either way, this is a phenomenon
that is not just known to me, it is common
to man. So yes, we need to raise more awareness
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on that as well. Laurie, this is such a great
topic for you to pick. I'm so blessed that you
really focused in on this topic. It certainly isn't me
talked about enough right now. And I think it's great
for people myself who have been open to having their
minds changed on this because this is a tough one
and we need to continue to pray that God will
open our heart. So if you know we're really struggling
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with this particular.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Topic, amen, that is a good one. You know, Father
lead us in the way we should go direct our
thoughts wonderful.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yes, yes, And so I want to remind viewers that
Lori Coolly could really use your support. Just check her
out on Loricolli dot substack dot com. You can also
go go to the website and uh, your ex account
is under your husband's name if you want to just
review that real quick.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yes, it's under Bob Colli on X and it's I
think it's Lori Colly as the anyway you'll find me.
It's also I include it in my substack. I'm on
Rumble and Bridy on and then also on X and
you can watch the videos on X without ads, which
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I love and I think I'll also start putting them
on Patriot TV through Truth Social not yeah, I'm yes,
truth uh yeah, truth Social yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, and sharing it online del TV. So watch for
that on X as well. Lori Laurie, thank you so
much and I'll see you again soon.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
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to dive right into our interview with doctor Ben Tapper,
but let's start by reminding ourselves who this man is.
So let's watch this.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
You see God made to your bodies self healing, regulating.
If you give the body what it needs, it can
be healthy. It is like the wilted plant that sits
under the sun. An allopathic model to that is to
shield the sun, to protect that plant against the sun,
cut off its leaves, medicate or vaccinate that plant. But
an epigenic, an epigenetic approach, a wellness approach, is to
(37:22):
give that plant water and it can be well. You see,
your body is no different. We must eat well, move well,
think well, and we can be well. In other words,
your level of health is the genetic expression of your
lifestyle choices. And I know full well that your body's
ability to heal itself, to overcome disease and circumstances like Corona,
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it's far greater than anyone has ever permitted you to believe.
Benjamin Russia, a signer of the Declaration of Independen, stated,
unless we put medical freedom into the constitution, the time
will come when medicine will organize into an untercover dictatorship
to restrict the art of healing to one class of
men and deny equal privileges to others. That time is
now out. These masks have absolutely nothing to do with health,
but everything you do with the complying with a false
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flag tyrannical agenda. If we sacrifice our precious freedoms for
temporary security, we will lose both. If you can't comprehend
that statement, if you are blind to this agenda, then
I am sorry. You have the eyesight of an eagle,
but the vision of a clam.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Such a good speech, and again that was just a
portion of a speech from our next guest, doctor Ben Tapper.
He's a Christian, a husband, a father to five, filmmaker, patriot,
advocating for medical freedom and true science, all topics very
important to us today and so welcome in doctor Ben Tapper. Then.
I don't know if you've got a chance to watch
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any of the last interview. I went a little bit long,
but this is such a perfect segue, at least into
your speech there, because we're talking about the two sides
of the coin with IVF and the morality of it,
and really the answer is, let's get after the root
causes of infertility and then maybe we won't have to
get hung up on some of the ins and outs
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of IVF.
Speaker 9 (39:07):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, And there's so much corruption around that,
you know, and you know we have so many fertility issues.
You have to wonder why is that? I mean, you know,
going back to early studies from the vaccine, we had
a pharmacokinetics study out of Japan that talked about I
believe there are sixty four ovariant toxins that were coming
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about post COVID vaccination. So you have to wonder why
that is and why isn't that taking this vaccine off
the market, and so again that prior to COVID and
CODE vaccines, to me, we've had fertility issues even just
sperm counts and men have declined over the years. We
have lower testosterone than ever before. And you wonder again
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what is the cause, what is the reason behind it?
And I think there are a lot of variables here.
We have more stress than ever before, physical, chemical, emotional,
and spiritual stresses than ever before. And our food is
is nutritionally bankrupt, so food plays a role. We have
more like more chemical stressors. You know, we spray eighty
million pounds of glapp said on our soil every year,
and that's a known carcinogen that affects a lot of
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different things. It acts like a key lator, so it
depletes the body of minerals and nutrients. And so there's
many many variables here. But again I love what you
said about dressing the cause and that is the solution.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yes, absolutely, right now. Obviously all the examples you just
gave can also be driven back to cancer. What are
the root cancer causes of this cancer explosion? And that's
finding its way to be a big topic again with
this recent cancer diagnosed. There's a lot of implications here too.
(40:47):
Does he have cancer? How long did we know if
he had cancer? He saw Joe Biden get those shots
on camera rolling up his sleeve. Could that have anything
to do with this? What are your initial thoughts on
that as a doctor and this announcement.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
Well, there's a lot of things that run through my head.
First off, does he also have dementia? I've been saying
that just the arms swing of Biden as a diminished
arm swing, and that is actually signs of a neurological
degeneration disease like Parkinson's or even dementia. And I would
say that, you know, we always joke and say, well
(41:24):
Biden is not all there, but really an all serious
clinical note. I think that there's more that meets the
eye here when it just comes to cancer. I think
there are also neurological things that are happening with Biden.
And first off, if you look at doctor I believe
it was Kevin O'Connor's medical report in twenty twenty four
in February of twenty twenty four, there was no mention
of any cancer in his body, especially on the prossy.
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There's no elevated PSA levels and he got a clean
bill of sell from a physician and from a physical standpoint.
So now we have a I believe it was a
Gleason nine rating, which is the rating score for prostate cancers,
and it's a zero to ten and ten is being
the most aggressive. And he's had a nine and that's
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extremely aggressive, just within over a little over a year
from his last physical. And so what does that tell you?
A they're either lying about presidential physicals or B they
have to admit that there's a turbo cancer that's at
bay here and what's causing these turbo cancers to exist?
And I think that the elephant room is the vaccine,
and so so many cancers are on the rise, and
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you know, stats show that over fifty percent of us
are going to get cancer, and that is the real epidemic,
Doctor Tapper.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
That is so good that you brought that up, because
the narrative that I think is being pushed out boast
that we must would jump to, is that it was hidden.
But I hadn't even considered the fact that, like, well,
if it wasn't hidden, if it truly did aggressively come on,
then it could be one of those turbo cancers that
is directly tied to the shots. I'm so glad you
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brought that up. But on the other going back to
the other possibility, I want to give your thought on this.
You mentioned dementia and some of the signs of dementia.
Now I've also been reading that if they had, if
he had known about this cancer diagnosis and it had
been hidden, that some of the treatments for the cancer
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could have made him extra sleepy or maybe not all
there is Is there any truth or legitimacy to that
being one of the possibilities.
Speaker 9 (43:33):
I mean, I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't be surprised
if that was happening, if he was getting some kind
of treatment that wasn't really being broadcasted to the masses here.
But again, any our treatments for cancer in this country
are terrible. I mean, the prognosis with cancer is absolutely terrible.
And they don't want to cure cancer. They want to
manage it first and foremost. I believe, if the truth
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were to be told, they do have cures for cancer.
It's just there. They don't want to. They don't want
to cure it. They want to manage it. Because answer
is a multi multi billion dollar industry. But yes, the
treatment and the modalities for this is you know drugs
and you know radiation, and which is an absolutely poor treatment.
It completely wipes out this system. It attacks the body,
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doesn't build up the body, it tears it down. So
absolutely fatigue is going to occur, and that's the immusism
gets wiped out. There are many factors here from that
are a consequence of following our treatment protocols for cancer
in this country, and fatigue is absolutely on the top
of the list.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Now, I know you do only have to opine on this,
but I mean, we've seen the clips, We've seen Trump's reaction. Again,
many people are assuming because they hid so much in
the Biden administration, there was no transparency in the Biden administration.
This is just another thing that we need to investigate
and see if they covered it up, hid this, if
it was if there was a diagnosis earlier. But what
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are the motivations for if that is the case announcing it? Now?
Do you see this? This is a way for the
Biden crime family to continue to stay in the news,
find ways to make money. Is it to avoid accountability?
What would you opine? Is the reasoning behind the timing.
Speaker 9 (45:16):
You know, it's I I'm not sure on that. I
don't really have an answer for that, but I have
my suspicions. I've been saying, you know that Biden was
going to come out and announce some kind of sickness
or illness, you know, when he was running for president.
I thought they were going to do like a drill
Ford repeat when well he.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Even said so. I'm sure you saw the clip doctor
Tapper where he was saying like, oh if if if
I had a sudden illness, then Kamla would be ready
to take over.
Speaker 9 (45:45):
Remember that, yes, right, and that was and I feel
like this is a repeating history. And I said that
since day won making no mistake, I thought Kamala was
gonna be president. Step down there like literally have a
Jill Ford repeat. Uh, But you know it's it's But
the bottom line is the timing of the issue. I
pray for President Biden, even though I don't agree with
a lot of what he was saying. He called me
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on national television, so I was killing people on national
television for my stance on the COVID vaccine. But you know,
I pray for the guy. I pray for his health
and I pray he gets well. Nobody wants, you know,
I don't wish death upon him, and I wish him
well and I pray for his illness. But again, the
timing of the issue is I think that they were
either covering his illness up you guys like myself that
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have been calling this out, Hey, he's not all there.
There's some issues here. His health does not look he
does not look fit to be president, and we've been
saying that for years, and here now they admit that
he has cancer, and I question what else does he
have because I think there is a neurological problem also
underlying that they're not emitting.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Implications of admitting that is definitely going to call into
question all those executive orders and the pardons, which I
think fully representative. James Comer is launching an actual investigation
into we'll see if it's more GOP chatter or something
will actually be done, but certainly needs to be looked at.
(47:07):
I don't have too much time left with you, about
seven minutes or so, so I wanted to hit these
a couple other topics. I noticed that you had posted
on your ex account follow doctor Ben Tapper on X
By the way, about this connection between SIDS and vaccines.
I have five kids as well, by the way, and
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my youngest is five months, and it's just a while
to be an older mom. No, and I just don't
worry about SIDS. I even do the absolute no no
of sleeping, sleep sharing sometimes and it's just not a concern.
And I just mainly because I'm thoroughly convinced that SINS
isn't even a thing, that it falls directly in line
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with all of these jabs. But please expand on that.
Speaker 9 (47:57):
So I would put on vaccine lectures for over a decade,
and I would always bring in a former detective for
Special Forces unit on the homicide especially in pediatrics, excuse me,
And I brought her in as a witness expert because
she would investigate SIDS cases. She would investigate three to
four month and she said every single time there usually
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occurred around the six month mark around their vaccines and
within forty eight hours of post vaccination that the SAIDs
would occur. And so she would put on the police
report that the babyhead of vaccine, and then the autopsy
report had no mention of it. And so it just
makes me wonder why that is. But if you were
to look at every single package insert on a vaccine,
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they would have death as an adverse reaction. Yes, it's
probably it's rare that death occurs, but it does happen,
and we're not told about it. We're told that these
vaccines are safe and effective. And really that is a
bumper sticker slogan to get us to stop asking questions,
to look further into these into the reactions. But even
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Vida McKay has a black box warning. It means that
it does cause death. They can cause death. There's a possibility.
And my question is are we getting informed consent? Are
these parents getting informed consent? Did they know that these
vaccines have an adverse reactions? Do the pediatricians even read
the package inserts and read the adverse reactions? And I
have had many debates with a lot of pediatricians and
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they and a lot of them have not read any
of these adverse reactions. I can ask them one or
two questions about it, and they just blatantly don't know.
They hand me a package or an insert or a
pamphlet from the CDC or the ACIP talking about how
these vaccines are safe and effective and it saves millions
of lives. But they don't ever really go into the
other side of the story that these vaccines do cause harm.
(49:45):
Harm is injuries are real, they're not rare, and it's
something that we need to talk about. So again, do
these vaccines cause sids? I do believe that there is
a correlation here and we need to look and investigate
to this matter. And the problem too, that's really heartbreaking
is that when these babies die, it's absolutely heartbreaking, but
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a lot of the dads will get blamed for shaking
baby syndrome and they are innocent. It's because of the vaccine.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Oh wow, I see that's another thing I never even
thought about, is people that might be being accused of
something that they didn't do. I mean, that's a whole
other element. Wow. As far as the autism and vaccines connection,
how long have you been skeptical of that and suspicious
that there is a connection there?
Speaker 9 (50:36):
Well, I mean I was never vaccinated as a kid.
My dad never vaccinated us or or my siblings, and
so I've been skeptical of it. Look at the rise
of autism just in the last twenty thirty years. I
mean it used to be one in ten thousand. Well,
First of all, autism was unheard of, and you know
in the eighties it used to be one in ten thousand,
and look at the rise in the number of vaccines
on the market. We had the night the Vaccine Compensation
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actively there were six vaccines prior to that act being passed.
It basically gave Big Pharma the green light to manufacture
and produce as many vaccines as possible without liability, so
you cannot sue them for injury. So now you have
to sue the government if you have an adverse reaction
or injury, and good luck with that. And only one
percent of injuries get reported. These doctors are not trained
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on a filing a ver's report. And then you have
a lot of people that say, well, the VERS which
stands for the Vaccine Adverse Advanced Reporting System. They say
it's not an accurate system, which it is an accurate system.
It's just very difficult to file a report. And it's
also a felony. It's a felony to falsify or report
in that system. My point being, I've been skeptical since
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day one. And they say that, oh, the diagnostics or
diagnosing autism is better, or it's improved there's not a
genetic marker test. There's nothing. There's no lab work, no
blood work that will confirm a diagnostics. A diagnosis of
autism is basically based on clinical observation and that's and
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it's really like a questionnaire. And so there is a
there's no, like I said, no genetic tester for autism.
And really autistic children are and I'm not talking to
people that are neurodivergent, because there's a lot of these
neurodivergent talk that people like, well, I got diagnosed with autism,
and I like, why are you function You're talking, you're
making eye contact. I would not say you're diagnosed with autism.
(52:23):
You might be neuro divergent, but you're not truly autistic.
The autistic children that I'm talking about are helmets. They
need full time care, they're nonverbal, they don't make iton contact.
There's obviously something majorly wrong with these children. That's not
hard to diagnose that. Okay, a layperson can make that diagnosis.
And we have seen healthy children hit markers. They're milestones,
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their landmarks, they're developmental landmarks, and then they're talking. They
have a vast vocabulary of thousands of orrors by the
time there are two or three, they get this MMR
vaccine or these other vaccines and then boom, they go nonverbal,
don't make eye contact. And we're being in these poor parents,
they're being gas lit by the medical community, and they're
being told that there was a genetic it was a
(53:08):
genetic thing. It's genetic, that's the autism genetic or that
was a you know, they're trying to blame genes on
this issue, and and they're lying and gaslighting these poor people.
And the truth of the matter is autism is an
epigenetic disorder. It's due to toxicity. And are vaccines to
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blame I believe so.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yes.
Speaker 9 (53:32):
I don't think it's the sole root cause of autism,
but I believe it is a major player. Just as
it's very similar to to like, let's say, lung cancer.
Our cigarettes to blame and lung cancer, yes, but are
they the main cause of lung cancer. Well, there might
be rad on and other elements and other toxicities that
can cause lung cancer, but cigarettes play a major role.
(53:52):
So vaccines and autism, the correlation, I believe is there,
and the science is not settled. Again, that is a
bumpers to slogan to get people to stop asking questions.
We need to keep asking questions. The science is never settled,
and we need to understand that that these these vaccines
do and cause harm. And if you look at the
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vaccine compensation active eighty six in the court systems, we
they have paid out over five billion dollars in injury
since eighty six. So what does that tell you? And
only less than a percent make it to the court systems.
So if if the people were to know some of
these facts, it would really cause a revolution overnight.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Yeah. Absolutely, well, doctor Tapper, I can see they why
they wanted to silence you and call you a disinformation
spreader because, as I said, you dropped some truth bombs.
I want to encourage people to follow you. Is the
best place on.
Speaker 9 (54:49):
X yes X or Instagram? Yeah, thank you so, doctor
Ben Tapper on X and on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
All right, Well, I look forward to having you back
again sometime. Thank you so much for your insights.
Speaker 9 (55:00):
Yeah, thank you now.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Wow, So we managed to pack a lot in to
today's show, But ultimately, I think it all comes down
to root causes. You know, what are the root causes
of problems that are leading to other moral difficulties as
far as figuring them out. You know, we need to
address the root causes at first, and we can always
ask for God's guidance and discernment and ways to do that.
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