May 19, 2025 • 56 mins
WE’RE DIVING INTO THE FIRESTORM OF TRUTH TODAY! I’M SITTING DOWN WITH STEVE KIRSCH, THE TECH TITAN TURNED VACCINE SKEPTIC, TO UNPACK WHY HE FLIPPED FROM SLAMMING CASEY MEANS AS SURGEON GENERAL TO BACKING HER, PLUS HIS BOLD CLAIM THAT COVID SHOTS FOR KIDS ARE TOAST!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're diving into the firestorm of truth today. I'm sitting
down with Steve Kirsh, the tech titan turned a vaccine skeptic,
to unpack why he flipped from slamming.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Casey Means as Surgeon General to backing her.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Plus is bold claim that COVID shots for kids are
toast will also grill him on the RFK, junior hearing protests,
vaccine autism links, and more. As long as we have time,
you never do know. Then We've got Rick Hill, a
fifty year cancer survivor who ditched mainstream medicine for unconventional
cures and lived to tell the tale. Imagine that rejecting
the mainstream can save your life. The news you need
(00:33):
to know, but with solutions and hope. This is get
free with Chrissie Lee. You know, after enduring years of
(00:59):
plan endemic gaslighting at best and at worst, loss of
loved ones due to hospital protocols and the very thing
we were told endlessly was safe and effective, many of
us are anxious for a season of reckoning, but at
the very least we just want acknowledgment and an apology.
Tech titan Steve Kersh is leading the way on that
(01:19):
he has given us apology. He posted this, he said
prior to May twenty twenty one. I recommend it. People
get the COVID shots. I realized I have never formally
apologized for my heir, so I am now formally acknowledging
that I trusted the experts and made a terrible error
by trusting but not verifying. I've written over seventeen hundred
articles exposing the truth about the shots since then to
atone for my mistake. Well, I am here to say
(01:41):
that we gleefully accept that apology and atonement has certainly
been achieved. Steve, you are forgiven kersh. He gave up
a lot to turn into an investigative journalist and researcher
demanding truth and justice for those whose wives have been destroyed,
not only a boy the COVID JAB, but the many
other folks they push. Steve, thank you so much for
being here, Thank you for that apology, having the humility
(02:04):
and encourage to admit it, and hopefully you will lead the.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Way on that.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, well, Christia, thank you for that. And I belatedly
realized that I had not apologized, so so I put
that out. I got half a million views on it
could be more. I don't know when you took that screenshot,
but I mean that sincerely.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I was fooled.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
And you know, I basically I believe the narrative myself,
and and you know, so I was walking the talk
at that point. I was telling people that Fauci was
right and that we everybody should get the shots and
the shots are perfectly safe. And so I was part
of the other half. And it wasn't until my friends
(02:49):
started dying or being very seriously injured from these shots
that I said, wait a minute, wait a minute, this
is this isn't matching what we've been told. And so
then when I started looking at the data, the data
matched reality of what I was experiencing. I had one
person wrote me and asked me if those shots were safe,
(03:09):
and I said, well, why are you asking me such
a silly question. Of course they're safe. And she said, well,
three of my relatives got the shot, and they were
perfectly healthy before the shot, and now they're all dead
a week after the shot. And I assured her that
it couldn't have been the shots, because we were assured
that the shots were safe and were perfectly safe. And
(03:34):
boy was I wrong. So I admit it. I was
definitely wrong. I trusted the authorities.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, it's one of those things where it was a
horrible season that we all went through, and I'm sure
that was kind of crazy to have to come to
that enlightenment in such a powerful, strange way. But I mean,
look how far we've come and how you've come as
a result of it. You know, once you found out
that you were lied to about that, you've been able
(04:03):
to uncover how much we've been lied to about so
many other things.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
It's just funny.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I remember, I think in during one of I was
one of the first to interview you, and you had
graciously accepted to come on Info Wars of all places
like the forest conspiratorial uh direction. But then I remember
you were like, hey, can you cut this or that part?
You know, you weren't deciding, you weren't totally ready to
(04:28):
come out. But I just think that speaks to your
character because obviously this was a hard decision, and you
ended up going all in.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Once you made that choice, you went all in and you.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Know, gave up what you were doing before and were
very thankful for your bravery and courage.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
In a passion I love your passion, Steve.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
But on that note, I've got to ask, since since
you've done such high quality research, I've got to ask
you off to get Like many others, you were sharing
some concerns about Casey Means being nominated for a surgeon General,
concern about some things that you were uncovering as far
as she went, and you posted rightfully so that she
had been pretty silent about mRNA vaccines and that being
(05:08):
an important issue to many of us because we know
how harmful they.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Compete can be.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But then you did in about face after that, saying
that you had spoken with RFK Junior and you were,
you know, you were going to go ahead and support
the nomination. So I think we're all curious, you know,
is there any one thing in particular that RFK Junior
said that you found so compelling to change your stands
on this.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, he said people don't understand politics. He said that
he supported her and that she's the right person for
the job, and that people don't understand politics. And basically
it's you have to put yourself into his shoes. Now,
(05:55):
you know, one of the people he considered for this position,
Kelly Vick, would have done spectacular job, but she never
would have been approved in the Senate, and so she
could do the best job in the world. But the
point is that he doesn't get to choose the people
(06:15):
he wants without oversight, and so he has to play
within the ballpark. I has to play within the rules
of the game, and the rules of the game is
that you don't necessarily get to pick everybody that you want.
It's all about a compromise in terms of these top positions.
(06:36):
And so in light of that, then he had to
pick someone who is basically silent on the mRNA vaccines
and had not looked into them, and so Casey means
fits that bill. Now, am I excited that she doesn't
have an opinion on the mRNA vaccines. No, would prefer
(07:00):
that she was vehemently against them. But if she was,
that would essentially torpedo her ability to be nominated for
this position. And so it's it's just a practicality point
of view. You have to move forward with someone and
in light of all of the factors at play, I
(07:25):
agree with him. I think she's probably the best person
for the job that could get appointed. And so that's
that's what changed my mind. Is essentially political realities.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Political realities.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
You know doctor Mary Boden as somebody who've interviewed quite
a bit. She's been one of the fiercest coming out
against her. You know, she would say, if we're not
doing it to save the kids, if we're not doing
enough to put an end to the M RENA vaccines,
than than what are we even doing? So i've what
(08:00):
do you say to someone like her that has pressed
the means on their willingness to call for an end?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Or would you say to someone like her?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I would say, put yourself in rfk's shoes for a second,
and you need to nominate someone who's going to get
by Bill Cassidy. And if they speak out against these vaccines,
they won't get past Bill Cassidy and they won't be appointed,
and so they Basically I would rather have someone who
(08:36):
is very smart and has an open mind about these
vaccines and then be able to show them the evidence
and have them make their own decisions. That's the ideal
situation in light of these realities. And so I sympathize
very much with Mary Bowden. You know, she's on my
board at VSRF and so and we're good friends, and
(09:01):
so I certainly was in the same position that she
was in. This was not very acceptable to me. But
then RFK basically pointed out, Hey, you know, we live
in a world where you can't necessarily get everything you want,
so I think in light of all of these things,
(09:23):
that that's the best That was the best choice. So
but I also, you know, you have to understand.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, I got to see, you know, there was something
that did inspire some confidence in doctor Casey Means being nominated,
and it was this article that they Associated Press put out.
They are doing a hit job on her, And you
know what, I'm like, Well, if the Associated Press is
coming out with this headline that the Surgeon General pick
(09:54):
is praised an unproven psychedelic therapy mushrooms helping her find love,
I'm like, well, they they certainly don't like her, so okay,
maybe she's good. It's like in this environment that's you
can sometimes judge how good someone might be based on
the legacy media reaction.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Right there, you go, Yeah, it's a confirmation that he
made the right pick.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Now and something else that you've been saying that people
can have a lot of hope in because maybe they're
not very happy about this pick and have their reservations there.
I think we all have a bit of a small
bit of a trauma from everything that we've all been through.
Many people in this movement have been silenced, they've been attacked,
they've been persecuted both in law, fair pulled off, silenced
(10:42):
on social media. So I think there is a little
bit of an element to that with people's reactions. But
one thing that you said that is giving us hope
is that you are feeling pretty confident that we may
be reaching the beginning of the end for COVID.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Shots, certainly on the childhood vaccine schedule. I've gotten multiple
inputs from various people who I don't want to name,
but there are people who would now be in a
position to know what's going on, and it seems like
it's inevitable. So Martin McCay, for example, recently hinted at hey,
(11:22):
it's coming off, So that's good. I'm waiting for that
to happen, and it can't happen soon enough. It should
be pulled off the market for everyone. You know, I've
been I've got this million dollar bet that the vaccines
have killed more people than they've saved. So we have
like this two million dollar pot that the winner gets
(11:46):
if they're right. And so I've been looking at all
sorts of different ways to show whether the COVID vaccines
have been effective or not. In the most recent analysis
that I've done, a plot the COVID deaths for very
old people, people born in nineteen thirty five versus people
(12:07):
born in nineteen fifty. And what's interesting is that the
COVID death curve when they rolled out the vaccine, it
should have cratered. It should have gone from what it
was before they started rolling out the shots, and then
it should have then started going and almost flatlining by
the time they got to all of the elderly. And
(12:29):
so you should have seen this ever changing slope, and
we saw nothing. The slope didn't change. The slope was
perfectly straight when they rolled out the vaccines versus by
the end that they had got eighty percent rollout for
the elderly, and there was no change in the rate
(12:52):
of COVID deaths. And then you have a control group,
which are the people born in nineteen fifty. Those people
didn't get the shots until later. Those people showed a
straight line too, So it wasn't that the virus was
deflecting or changing such that it would cause the death
to be a straight line. No, the deaths were a
(13:14):
straight line because the vaccine had no impact whatsoever on
COVID deaths. So we basically turned the entire world upside
down for this COVID vaccine that did nothing, and we
were able to open up even though the COVID vaccine
didn't do anything. It's stunning when you think of the
(13:36):
trillions of dollars that were wasted because of people's belief system,
and people were never told, hey, by the way, just kidding,
The COVID vaccine did nothing whatsoever. You didn't need to
lock down at all, You didn't need to do any
of this. The whole vaccine program was completely ineffective in
(13:58):
terms of COVID moretality.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yes, unsafe and ineffective.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Now we know that it was important to the big
pharma depopulation globalists. We know that it was important for
them to have this on the child vaccine schedule because
that gives them an extra layer of liability protection. It's
really shocking to wrap your mind around that this COVID
(14:25):
nineteen vaccine is still approved for emergency use. There is
no emergency anymore, and now we're learning there really never was.
It's my understanding that as long as a vaccine is
at minimum thirty to fifty percent effective, that it can.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Be on the emergency use authorisy. That's my understanding.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I could be wrong in that now that you are
finding more and more evidence than not only is it
not even thirty to fifty percent effective, but not effective
at all? What's it going to take for this EUA
to be removed at this point?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I mean, this is insane.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yes, I agree with you. It's zero percent effective. There's
no more emergency. Why is this on the market. And
the answer to that I obtained by talking to RFK
Junior directly, And the answer is that there were other
things that were predicated under the EUA that would disappear
(15:29):
and not be available anymore that people wanted available. So
there were some things that were tied to the EUA.
So it's not the drug itself, but there were some
other things. And I didn't delve into details, but he
said it's complicated and we're they're looking at ways to
circumvent that. But that's the reason that it's in place.
(15:50):
It's not because he believes that the COVID vaccines are safe.
I don't think he believes that. It's just that there
were some complications that sort of fallout that if they
remove the EUA, that this would cause other things that
they wanted to have in place disappear. So I don't
know what the details are, but that that's the reasoning
behind it, and I don't think anybody knows that.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Wow, let's move on to this measles narrative. It's very
interesting the timing how these supposed acceleration of deaths happened
just before our FK Junior's confirmation hearing.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
They gave them AMMO as something else to press about.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And if you do that deep dive, which I'm just
kind of starting to do, it's really quite shocking anything
from Debora Burks being in the same area where these
children supposedly got measles and supposedly died of measles, which
you know, again, you can go down a whole rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
But Melinda Gates was on.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
CNN continuing to push this typical narrative that vaccine save lives.
You shared that video clip. I wanted to play that
and then we can talk more about that.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
On the other side, you mentioned vaccines.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
This administration is now in a way a bit of
an incubator for vaccine skepticism, both here in the United
States and around the world.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
What are the consequences.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Of that children's lives? So we have seen children die
in the United States now of measles. There is no
child in the world that ever needs to die of measles,
and we haven't seen that in a long time in
the United States, and that is because of vaccine hesitancy.
And so I don't think that is right for the world.
(17:36):
These are life saving tools.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Talk right there though, She's like people have died, and
I mean, we're finding out that that that on its
face isn't even necessarily true.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Right, correct. These kids died from bad hospital protocols. They
had pneumonia as a consequence of measles, so they got
through measles and sometimes when you have a virus, you
can get pneumonia. And so she went in for essentially
(18:10):
her pneumonia, and they gave her the wrong treatment, and
they didn't follow up, and they gave her the drugs.
It wasn't fast enough they should have given it. It
was like they waited like twelve hours or something. The
next day for the pharmacy to dispense the drug, and
(18:30):
anybody who was paying attention should have diagnosed the correct
set of drugs. I mean you basically, they're essentially two
types of drugs that you give for pneumonia, and the
person who died, the child who died, they only got
one prong and it turned out that they should have
(18:53):
gotten the other one because that's the standard of care.
So the er physician basically was and following the standard
of care for pneumonia. So the child died from pneumonia.
It's tragic, but the child didn't die from measles. It
is a mischaracterization, and this is just more of the
mainstream media blowing up on narrative which simply is not
(19:17):
true when you look at the details. I know about
two measles deaths, and both of them were not measles deaths.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And I know you can go, like I said, kind
of off the deep end when you start digging into
this kind of stuff, But I mean, I do think
it's worth noting that it is a little bit strange
that Deborah Burke's, who was in this top position in
the previous administration when the pandemic started it's really Isn't
it really strange that she would be then reassigned to Lubbock, Texas.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I mean, I'm in Texas right now. Lubbock. It's not Dallas,
not Ozen, this is.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Not very densely populated, So she's sent there, and then
it just so happens that she's out there right near
this hospital where you know, these these occurrences occurred.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
It's just it's it's strange.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I'll say that, Uh, it's you're You're absolutely correct. It
is very strange. It's an amazing coincidence, and it probably
wouldn't happen in a million years, so there's probably something
going on here.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
That correlation.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
In fact, the causation correlation.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
You point out, it's extremely.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
It's it's a stunning coincidence that I haven't calculated the
odds on that one, but they've got to be really small.
And I also wanted to add something about Melinda Gates.
If Melinda Gates really cared about kids, she would be
looking into the ten pure reviewed articles that compared kids
(20:57):
with no vaccines versus kids that are fully vaccinated, and
she would find that the kids who are fully vaccinated
are worse on every single health condition that they monitored for,
including autism. And it's very rare to find an unvaccinated
kid with autism, and it's extremely common to find a
(21:17):
fully vaccinated kid with autism. They tend to stop vaccinating
after they get autism from their vaccine. But you know,
the McDowell triplets is the perfect example of that.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
How do you have triple when.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You had to do would say that, All you had
to do was say that, and my stomach turned. It's
just it's it's so heartbreaking, Like I mean, I just
like tear up thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Triplets, beautiful triplets, Oh my gosh. I mean if people don't.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Know hours, yeah, two hours after their vaccine shot, they
become permanently autistic for the first one and then the
last one took them me like six hours or so,
but there's no denying it. Within hours of the shot,
all three kids are autistic. So when when we hear
(22:10):
that from the mainstream media that we we don't know
what causes autism, but we know for sure it's not
the vaccines, nobody will go on camera explaining to me
how the McDowell triplets god autism. Nobody will go on
camera explaining to me how Doug Holsted has forty four
patients that essentially went autistic overnight, meaning you know, within
(22:34):
a within a day or two. And all of those cases,
all forty four, happened within a week after a vaccine,
not a week before the vaccine. Zero cases before that, zero,
All forty four cases, one hundred percent of the cases
are within a week after a vaccine. So tell me
(22:54):
with a straight face that vaccines don't cause autism. And
I'm so. I'm telling Mellin the Gates you are doing
the world a horrible service having a kid develop autism.
Is it is not only destroys the child's life, but
it destroys the life of the family as well, and
(23:15):
it creates divorces, and it just creates a huge mess,
and it creates a huge burden for society. And you
are silent, Melinda Gates, on the link between vaccines and autism.
And you should look at the data. But they won't.
They won't talk to anyone who disagrees with their viewpoints.
And that's the I mean, that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That is the problem is it's become such a pervasive
condition in our society that everyone has a family member
that has autism, and so there's of course, you love
your family members, and so you want to be defensive
of who they are.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
But I mean, and I think that there's guilt and shame.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I think there's so much to this that people people
don't if there is a connection. I think they truly
don't want to know because then the ramifications up there
that is huge and heartbreaking. And you know, but to
the triplet situation, you know, there would be some that
would say, well, this just shows that this is genetic
that all have they have them because it's genetic.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Now, what I think is.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
That I do think that there's genetic disposition to the
reaction to the shot, because clearly there's some that have
all these shots and they don't end up with autism, right,
But I do think that there's a genetic element to
it and that some have a genetic disposition of a
reaction to I certainly don't think a baby's being jabbed
(24:43):
with like seventy two shots is ever safe or ever good,
but I think that some are more genetically predispos disposed
to having that inflammatory response, as I understand it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
What's your thoughts in that.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Well, certainly there could be a genetic component to it.
But you know, when they induce autism in rats in
order to do or maybe it's mice, in order to
do these autism studies, the way they induce autism is
through vaccination. So you know, to say that there's no
(25:20):
link between autism and vaccination is insane when that's where
we're doing the experiments. That's how we're inducing autism in
animals through vaccination, you know. So and and also you
know there isn't a case where triplets get autism all
(25:42):
at the same time, within hours of each other, that
is not linked to a vaccine. Show me that case.
It doesn't exist. And see that's the problem that when
when the triplets get autism. Yeah, if it was genetic,
the chance that it would happen right within two hours
after a vaccine are zero. It would happen at some
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random time. They would all become autistic at the same time.
But they're only becoming autistic at the same time when
it's two hours after a vaccine shot. Explain that one.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, now, you media exactly, you make too much sense. Now,
you also did a post on this autism narrative. You said,
if vaccines don't cause autism, you'd have to explain which
one of the five Bradford Hill criteria is not satisfied.
So can you explain this at Bradford Hill criteria and
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how it relates.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Sure, So, there's a there's a causality UH a set
of rules that people have adopted, and there there are
multiple rules, so that one of the rules there set
of rules for determining causality is Bradford Hill. And in
the case of a vaccine UH caused event, there are
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five conditions and there's there are somewhat more for in
general causality, but for for vaccines it's five conditions. And
so there are things like that, is there temporal proximity,
So if you do something, do you get a reaction?
Is there perhaps a dose dependent relationship so that if
you give someone twice as much do they develop? Are
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they twice as likely to develop the condition? Is there
a biological plausibility for the UH the reaction? So in
other words, if you looked at your clock and your
your your child died, there's there's there's no there's no
biological plausibility on that one. But there would be a
(27:46):
block biological plausibility on Oh, look, we looked at these
m R and A shots and they're causing the immune
system to attack the body and we can see it
in the histopathology. Uh, these vaccines have very clear histopathology
signatures that are unique. We've never seen these kinds of
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injuries in someone who has been vaccinated and died before.
So this is novel to the pathologists. They've never seen
anything like it. And it only started after the vaccines
rolled out, So you got to think that you know,
there's something there. So these are the kinds of rules
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that the five rules for Bradford Hill for determined causality,
and the COVID shots meet all five, and of course
so does autism. You look at all five conditions. The
evidence is out there that it's causal. People just don't
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like to look at it. They don't like to refer
to it. And nobody will answer that question, Like when
I posted that, I posted that question a long time ago.
Did you see any body answering No?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Of course not, of course not.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
But that's the thing I mean, all of this defies logic.
You know, there was a protest in our protester in
RFK Junior's hearing just freaking out.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
They had to be taken out.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
We come to find out that it was the Ben
and Jerry co found one of the co founders, I believe.
So I'll play that in a minute, just to react
to that. But I mean, and then also on the
other side, just to wrap up, I mean, it's such
an uphill battle. There's so many things to get accountability
and truth out about and try and do something about.
(29:37):
So hopefully you can offer us some encouragement on the
other side. But let's watch this video of this protester
at the RFK Junior hearing.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Find and disruptions will not be permitted.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Well, the committee conducts his business.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Capitol police are asked to remove and the individuals from.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So again the New York Post, I believe or not,
Actually the New York Times, I think did a confirm
that that was the Ben and Jury's dude, Like maybe
he's really upset that they can't have artificial colors or sweeteners.
And but I mean, this is wild that people are
protesting to that degree on efforts to save lives, on
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efforts to make things safer, on efforts to remove liability
so that these companies have more urgency to make things
be safe and effective.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I mean, it just blows your mind.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Well, it's because people have their belief system and they've
been misled by the system, and they're entrenched in their
belief system and you can't talk them out of it,
and so they're just going and protesting based on their beliefs. Now,
I couldn't even understand what he said in that.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Clip either, just make a noise.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
So yeah, I mean, I you know, maybe there's some
things that RFK has said that I haven't looked into.
But the things that I know about that RFK has
said he's right on, and the stories that he tells,
especially his story with Paul Offit in his conversation with
Paul Offit where he caught Paul off It in a
(31:15):
lie and then he said, well, so can you show
me the papers, and so that Paul off It says,
I'll get back to you, and Paul Offitt never did.
It just shows you that this is why people won't
debate RFK. It's not because he's not a scientist, is
it because he's got this photographic memory for everything, and
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you can't you can't deny it. I mean, he's he's
got all the facts behind him, and so it becomes
very difficult for anybody to say that he's spreading misinformation
or he's not telling you the truth, because he's got
all the references. And so this is why you don't
see these people challenging him. He's been trying for twenty
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years to get a debate on autism. Twenty years and
he's not been able to debate anybody in the medical community.
After twenty years of trying. Why don't they just silence him.
All they have to do to is agree to a
debate with him on autism, and they would silence him.
It would be over. And yet they're not agreeing to it,
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which means they're afraid. They're afraid that everybody will know
once the debate goes out. Hey, you were the guy
who messed it up and lost to Kennedy. And now
everyone believes that vaccines cause autism because they should believe
that because Kennedy is right, and nobody will challenge him.
Nobody was willing to challenge him in over twenty years
(32:45):
and to this day, nobody wants to challenge him.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, they'd rather just like name call and try and
disparage him. But I got to move toward rapping.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
But I do want to leave this point kind of
bringing it back to the beginning. As our Occa Junior
told you, you know, well you got to play politics.
So how how do you balance that with we need
accountability yesterday? I mean time is ticking. There are more
children being injured every day that are falling victim to
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the narrative of like, oh, it's you got to get
all of these shots. As soon as your baby comes
out your body, you got to start pumping the full
of these shots for their own good. I mean this
is happening every day. People are being injured, people are
dying like this is urgent. So how do we balance.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
That with having to play politics? I mean this is
a beast.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, I think the tide turns when the majority of
the American public says take these shots off the market.
And I've been told that it's not at fifty percent yet,
which is surprising to me because most Americans aren't getting
any booster shots and so I actually yeah, I mean
I'd like to see that the polling for where Americans
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stand on this, and I think that would help to
change it. But another thing that would help to change
it is that if there was a single courageous mainstream
media reporter, whether that reporter is at the New York Times,
whether the reporter is at the sixty minutes Washington Post, whatever,
somebody who's willing to speak the truth and probably get
(34:26):
fired for doing that. But as soon as you start
to see a mainstream media reporter lose their job, maybe
it's one, maybe it's two, maybe it's three, those people
would be the heroes because those people will wake America
up because they would tell people, hey, you know, we
have been not able to tell you this story. It's
(34:46):
important that people know. And the more people that are
credible that start to speak out the truth, the faster
that we can change the opinion of the American people,
which then makes things politically possible, because you look at
the Senate, for example, and the Democrats are all, oh,
(35:08):
vaccines are great, and vaccines don't cause autism, and you
can't take away the mRNA shots, and so I think
that the Senate is kind of this reflection of America.
They're definitely more extreme than America. In other words, I
think that every Democrat says that the vaccines are great.
(35:29):
I don't think that's true in the general public, but
it's a barometer. It shows where people are at. So
when are we going to be able to turn a
Democrat in the Senate or a Democrat in Congress to
be going from a pro vaccine position to a truthful
(35:50):
position about being at a minimum against the mRNA shots.
And so far these people just don't want to engage
in any conversations at all. So, for instance, I reached
out to Maggie Hassan's office after she gave that passionate
speech about there's nobody that wants to find the cause
(36:13):
of autism more than me. So I reached out to
her staff and I said, great, let's have a meeting
with a bunch of autism experts. And I got back, well, Maggie,
the senator won't meet with the autism experts, but the
staff will. So great. We wrote back and they said, okay, great,
(36:33):
when can we schedule this? Didn't hear back. That's the
way it goes. They don't want to hear well.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I mean, that's the big problem, Steve, is the mainstream
media is so largely funded by big Pharma and all
of these dollars that they literally cannot even touch that
topic or risk losing their funding. And it's a dying
industry as we know it, and then we know that
so many lobbyists own the representative, so it's definitely a beast.
(37:02):
I do think that we need to pray for just radical,
miraculous movement on this, but at least that we have
the efforts of you and efforts of RFK Junior, and
so we'll just keep an eye on that.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I want to encourage.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Folks to follow your substack, follow you on x st
kersh on x and he has a link to his
substack there. Always doing excellent research and always giving those
million dollar bets to people that nobody takes you up.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Because they know they can't they can't win them.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
So thank you for everything you're doing, Steve, and I'll
look forward to talking to you next time.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Thanks Christy, and thanks for everything that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Of course, all.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Right, if only we had a question in the mainstream
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the mainstream cannot be only life changing, but life saving.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Rick Hill.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
He ignored the media, mainstream, medical doctors, big pharma and
government health agencies when they told him be seventeen was dangerous.
He ignored the doctors that said he had to have
chemotherapy and radiation. Today, because of those brave decisions, Rick
Hil is celebrating his fiftieth year without cancer, and he's
joining us to talk about his lifelong health journey, about
choosing leatril, how he all these crazy efforts.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Let's go ahead and bring you in, rack Hill. Thank
you so much for being here.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Thank you, Christine. Nice to be here. I enjoyed your
last interview too. It's great.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Thank you, Ed.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I'm sorry I kept you waiting there for a bit.
We gotta started a little bit late. But happy to
have you here.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Rick Hil. You know the part that I didn't hit
is man, you.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Had so much can about rejecting the mainstream method that
you were even smuggling these drugs across the borders, these good,
real life drugs. So tell me about that, Like, where
did you get this conviction that it would be a natural,
God given thing that would help you.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Well, this was fifty years ago and I was at
the Mayo Clinic. I'd had eight hours of exploratory surgery
and they came back to me and said, okay, here's
the You have it on your neck, you have it
on your feet, and it is systemic. So you have
(40:42):
embryonic cl carcinoma and it is systemic. They classify that
high grade stage three, whatever that means. But I said,
well what I asked the chemo therapist, what would you
do if you were me? And he leaned back in
a chair and he said, invite your family in. In
(41:04):
other words, we got to decide who gets a gold watch.
And on a Friday they told me they had scheduled
chemo for Monday, and of course we just go along
with it. You know, they're the Mayo Clinic. And I
got a letter that afternoon Friday from a John Bircher.
(41:28):
Do you remember that organization? Yes, okay? And I opened
the letter from a friend of mine and he said,
if you want to live, you're going to have to
leave the Mayo Clinic. So I knew. I called him
(41:48):
up and I said, do you know where I am?
He said, yeah, I put it in my note. You're
at the Mayo Clinic. And I said, why in the
world would I want to leave here? He said, well,
I agree that they're the citadel of modern medicine. But
I don't think it's medicine you need. I think you
(42:09):
need to go somewhere where they understand the immune system.
So I said, and where would that be? And he said,
are you sitting down? I thought, oh, great, yeah, John,
I'm sitting down. Okay, I think you need to go
to Tijuana. Can you imagine? And I said, what are
(42:31):
they going to give me in Tijuana? He said, well,
it's an extract from the apricot fruit. And I'm picturing
me going to my family and saying, Okay, I'm going
to leave the Mayo clinic. They're going to take some
form of apricots shove them in my veins. And I
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didn't have insurance there, but I did at the Mayo Clinic,
and I called the chemotherapist and I said, I got this.
Let I don't know what to do. I'm just really confused.
And there was a long pause, and one of the
best things happened to me at that point. He said, well, Coma,
(43:14):
it is warm in Tijuana this time. He year, In
other words, we're not going to help you. They're probably
not going to help you in tj but if you
want to go lay on the beach and sip tequila.
Go ahead, and I said to him, message delivered.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
I got up the pon.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
I met with my family that night. They reacted the
way you think they might react. We're from Detroit. I
learned more swear words in five minutes, and I learned
growing up on the streets of Detroit. My younger my
older brother Sam Sam Hill. If you can believe that,
said Ricky, if you go to Tijuana, I will never
(44:00):
speak to you again. He said, we always knew you
were stupid, we just didn't know how stupid. And they
got My father in law went around the room and
he said, I like it. I'll take him and I'll
pay for part of it. I said, deal. And we
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went down to Tijuana to the Contreras clinic, the famous one.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
And so remind me how old were you at.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
This time, twenty four, twenty four while and I'm seventy
four now. So they gave me this fifty year award,
you know, for yeah, for doing the fifty years. And
doctor Contreras asked me the second turning point in my
(44:51):
you asked why I was so confident? He said, are
you willing to do everything we ask you to? Do
when you get down here. And I said, I don't know, Doc,
I mean, you didn't send me a list. You may
want me to hang by my toes. I don't know.
He said, what we're trying to do, Rick, is bring
(45:12):
your immune system online. I need an ally in this fight.
I can't beat this without you. And if you're willing
to follow the diet we give you and the detox
instructions and take the shots that we want to give you,
(45:32):
I think you can recover, but only if you follow
what we ask you. And then I learned that my
church was paying my way. First Baptist church was going
to annie up. And I said, Doc, if these people
come to the rescue, and my father in law came
to the rescue, and the chemotherapist came the rescue, I'm
(45:55):
going to do whatever you ask. And here's a Detroit
g reasearchit it going to Tijuana to learn how to
be a tree hunker. I'd never been to help.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
Yeah, I mean it's such a it's such a compelling
story that I do want to mention that you have
written a book, Too Young to Die, and I believe
you wrote another one as well.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, too Young to Die is the current current one
that's on Amazon. Uh, next week it'll be on Amazon.
It's new, and it's it's not me telling you all
the trophoblastic theories of cancer, all of the complicated things
I've read. It's me telling you here's how I saved
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my life. Thank God for people who stood in the pathway,
and the story comes out great and excellent and.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Thank God, I mean, just to.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
To make sure that we mentioned real quick, thank God
for John Richardson and what he's doing over at Richardson
Nutritional Center. You can actually go to RNC store dot
com slash k l. That's RNC store dot com, slash
kl That's where you can get your apricot seeds, your
latrol needs, which is a part of There you Go,
which is part of the protocol that Rick Hill followed
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to stay cancer.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Free for fifty years. That there you Go.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
So if you know anyone who has cancer, if you've
just been diagnosed with cancer, this what's the harm and
trying this before you do the very pervasive chemo therapy
and radiation. So many stories like yours reck of people
that actually were able to turn around their cancer diagnosis
just by taking God's gift of apricot seeds and the
(47:49):
leatrol inside to us. But I got to ask, because
you were saying all these people were telling you were stupid,
they were freaking out. What did they say and how
did they react? Did they become believers once you started
seeing results.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
You would think so, wouldn't you.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
But no.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Example of the COVID shot. I didn't take the COVID shot.
I'm not going to members of my family did. And
I just I called them up and I said, what
would I have to do, you know, to show you
that your body's not lacking you know, spike protein. You
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don't need it, it's bad for you, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
And so.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
They really don't come around because when you have a
narrative that you've invested yourself in, it doesn't matter. They
just figured I got lucky. You know that it was
a natural remission. You come up with explanation. And yet
I was at the Mayo Clinic a month having all
this treatment, even even painkillers, you know, and I didn't remit.
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I didn't go into remission. They said my chemotherapy was mandatory.
But then I left. In the one month, three weeks,
I was at the Oasis of Oak Hospital in Tijuana.
My cancer began to go away, collar came back, little
weight came back on, started getting ornery again. Yeah, three weeks.
(49:40):
So it doesn't matter. Sometimes the proof that you give
in fact, there's a there's a book you want proof.
G Edward Griffin wrote a book called World Without Cancer
The Story of ITAM seventeen. That book, all the science,
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all the arguments. You can't read it and go, there's
nothing here. This is just hearsay. No, it's solid, solid work.
And yet you know Big Pharma said it'll kill you.
I tested well on that note.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
On that note leaa trill, you know from the apricot seeds,
what the resistance do you get? Like even I was
so disappointed Mom. I know sometimes you watch my shows.
I'm sorry, but I was so disappointed in you when
I was telling her about all this, and she's like, yeah,
but I you know, I read that the apricot seeds
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can be like toxic or poisonous, And I'm like.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
What did we all go through with like the main narrative?
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I mean, because she knew better not to take the
COVID chat and she knew better with all this other stuff.
But then I'm like, but now you're gonna believe this,
and so did you ever come up with that, come
up with that resistance?
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Like, oh, isn't that poisonous or toxic? And how did
you know better?
Speaker 4 (51:02):
It has cyanide in it, but so does two hundred
and thirteen other foods have cyanide. Lima beans are rich
in cyanide. Apple seeds are rich in cyanide. The fact
of the business is that your body's able to differentiate.
And it isn't just the latro we're using. We're using
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an enzyme chemotripsen and tripsin. Those are so important because
you take them between meals. You're not trying to digest
the steak. You just state you're trying to remove a
protein coating from the cancer you might have. When that happens,
that brings your immune system online. That doctor Contreres talked about,
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he said, that's my ally. I can win with that.
But you have to take those enzymes, and then the
leatl has got to be present to poison those particular cells,
not all your cells, just those with this little bit
of poison. I took six grams of it, not milligrams,
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six grams of it in one day intravenously. I didn't
get a headache, I didn't throw up, my hair didn't
fall out. That thing about toxicity is just bunk. It
doesn't exist in the real world. So I explain all that.
But again, if their narrative is different, then they say, well,
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I believe doctor Schmatz. He brought me into this world.
He would never lie to me. Oh boy, Doctor Schwartz
got less than ten hours of nutritional training to get
his medical degree. He knows less than the lady at
the health food store when you walk in the door.
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So yeah, I believe in western medicine. If I get
run over by a truck and I need to be
put back together, thank god that they're there. But if
you have a metabolic disease, you need someone that understands
the immune system. And modern medicine just doesn't give us
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much for that. Sorry doesn't. And I'm here to testify
and I'm not alone.
Speaker 7 (53:22):
Yeah, and you've been on this protocol, you've been taking
lantroll and enzymes and all of that for fifty years,
and you seem more energetic than me.
Speaker 8 (53:33):
Quite Frankly, I'm seventy four years old, and I don't
I just I see most seventy four year olds, and
you see them in the supermarket and they're leaning on
the twitch handle, their cart is full of sugar things,
and their legs are all swollen up and turning dark
(53:53):
from diabetes.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
And come on, yeah, you're you're the biggest selling point, Rick, Rick,
I'm up against the clock now. I still got I
still got to give time to give my verse of
the day. But Rick, I so enjoyed your story. Really
want to encourage others to read it. Go to Amazon
get Too Young to Die to read Rick's story about
his bravery that ultimately saved him from cancer.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
If I rejected, it means your narrative, which is what I'm.
Speaker 4 (54:20):
Always My book is available at r n C.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
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way better. Yes, Yes, thank you so much. Rick, really
enjoyed speaking with you.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
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take the raw apricot seeds. They do taste a bitter,
but that's that's in its purest form of raw apricot seeds.
Or you can get the capsules the leatrill and get
the enzymes, get the protocol, but you have to try.
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If you or anyone else you know is at risk
of or has been diagnosed with cancer, you're not gonna
hear this anywhere else. They won't let you say that.
But this is a so many success stories. Now I
want to give it the averse of the day. Make
sure I get that in and here it is, you
adulterous people. Don't you know that friendship with the world
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means enmity against God. Therefore, anyone who chooses to be
a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
And that kind of and that's from James four to four.
That kind of goes along with my point. If you're
trusting the world, if you're friends with the world, well
then you're an enemy. You got you got to go
the narrow path. It just might save your life. RNC
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Well.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Thank you for watching Get Free with Christy Lee, and
make sure you spread the word, share with others, i'll
see you next time.
We're diving into the firestorm of truth today. I'm sitting
down with Steve Kirsh, the tech titan turned a vaccine skeptic,
to unpack why he flipped from slamming.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Casey Means as Surgeon General to backing her.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Plus is bold claim that COVID shots for kids are
toast will also grill him on the RFK, junior hearing protests,
vaccine autism links, and more. As long as we have time,
you never do know. Then We've got Rick Hill, a
fifty year cancer survivor who ditched mainstream medicine for unconventional
cures and lived to tell the tale. Imagine that rejecting
the mainstream can save your life. The news you need
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to know, but with solutions and hope. This is get
free with Chrissie Lee. You know, after enduring years of
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plan endemic gaslighting at best and at worst, loss of
loved ones due to hospital protocols and the very thing
we were told endlessly was safe and effective, many of
us are anxious for a season of reckoning, but at
the very least we just want acknowledgment and an apology.
Tech titan Steve Kersh is leading the way on that
(01:19):
he has given us apology. He posted this, he said
prior to May twenty twenty one. I recommend it. People
get the COVID shots. I realized I have never formally
apologized for my heir, so I am now formally acknowledging
that I trusted the experts and made a terrible error
by trusting but not verifying. I've written over seventeen hundred
articles exposing the truth about the shots since then to
atone for my mistake. Well, I am here to say
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that we gleefully accept that apology and atonement has certainly
been achieved. Steve, you are forgiven kersh. He gave up
a lot to turn into an investigative journalist and researcher
demanding truth and justice for those whose wives have been destroyed,
not only a boy the COVID JAB, but the many
other folks they push. Steve, thank you so much for
being here, Thank you for that apology, having the humility
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and encourage to admit it, and hopefully you will lead the.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Way on that.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, well, Christia, thank you for that. And I belatedly
realized that I had not apologized, so so I put
that out. I got half a million views on it
could be more. I don't know when you took that screenshot,
but I mean that sincerely.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I was fooled.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
And you know, I basically I believe the narrative myself,
and and you know, so I was walking the talk
at that point. I was telling people that Fauci was
right and that we everybody should get the shots and
the shots are perfectly safe. And so I was part
of the other half. And it wasn't until my friends
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started dying or being very seriously injured from these shots
that I said, wait a minute, wait a minute, this
is this isn't matching what we've been told. And so
then when I started looking at the data, the data
matched reality of what I was experiencing. I had one
person wrote me and asked me if those shots were safe,
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and I said, well, why are you asking me such
a silly question. Of course they're safe. And she said, well,
three of my relatives got the shot, and they were
perfectly healthy before the shot, and now they're all dead
a week after the shot. And I assured her that
it couldn't have been the shots, because we were assured
that the shots were safe and were perfectly safe. And
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boy was I wrong. So I admit it. I was
definitely wrong. I trusted the authorities.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, it's one of those things where it was a
horrible season that we all went through, and I'm sure
that was kind of crazy to have to come to
that enlightenment in such a powerful, strange way. But I mean,
look how far we've come and how you've come as
a result of it. You know, once you found out
that you were lied to about that, you've been able
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to uncover how much we've been lied to about so
many other things.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
It's just funny.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I remember, I think in during one of I was
one of the first to interview you, and you had
graciously accepted to come on Info Wars of all places
like the forest conspiratorial uh direction. But then I remember
you were like, hey, can you cut this or that part?
You know, you weren't deciding, you weren't totally ready to
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come out. But I just think that speaks to your
character because obviously this was a hard decision, and you
ended up going all in.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Once you made that choice, you went all in and you.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Know, gave up what you were doing before and were
very thankful for your bravery and courage.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
In a passion I love your passion, Steve.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
But on that note, I've got to ask, since since
you've done such high quality research, I've got to ask
you off to get Like many others, you were sharing
some concerns about Casey Means being nominated for a surgeon General,
concern about some things that you were uncovering as far
as she went, and you posted rightfully so that she
had been pretty silent about mRNA vaccines and that being
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an important issue to many of us because we know
how harmful they.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Compete can be.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But then you did in about face after that, saying
that you had spoken with RFK Junior and you were,
you know, you were going to go ahead and support
the nomination. So I think we're all curious, you know,
is there any one thing in particular that RFK Junior
said that you found so compelling to change your stands
on this.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, he said people don't understand politics. He said that
he supported her and that she's the right person for
the job, and that people don't understand politics. And basically
it's you have to put yourself into his shoes. Now,
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you know, one of the people he considered for this position,
Kelly Vick, would have done spectacular job, but she never
would have been approved in the Senate, and so she
could do the best job in the world. But the
point is that he doesn't get to choose the people
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he wants without oversight, and so he has to play
within the ballpark. I has to play within the rules
of the game, and the rules of the game is
that you don't necessarily get to pick everybody that you want.
It's all about a compromise in terms of these top positions.
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And so in light of that, then he had to
pick someone who is basically silent on the mRNA vaccines
and had not looked into them, and so Casey means
fits that bill. Now, am I excited that she doesn't
have an opinion on the mRNA vaccines. No, would prefer
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that she was vehemently against them. But if she was,
that would essentially torpedo her ability to be nominated for
this position. And so it's it's just a practicality point
of view. You have to move forward with someone and
in light of all of the factors at play, I
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agree with him. I think she's probably the best person
for the job that could get appointed. And so that's
that's what changed my mind. Is essentially political realities.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Political realities.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
You know doctor Mary Boden as somebody who've interviewed quite
a bit. She's been one of the fiercest coming out
against her. You know, she would say, if we're not
doing it to save the kids, if we're not doing
enough to put an end to the M RENA vaccines,
than than what are we even doing? So i've what
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do you say to someone like her that has pressed
the means on their willingness to call for an end?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Or would you say to someone like her?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I would say, put yourself in rfk's shoes for a second,
and you need to nominate someone who's going to get
by Bill Cassidy. And if they speak out against these vaccines,
they won't get past Bill Cassidy and they won't be appointed,
and so they Basically I would rather have someone who
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is very smart and has an open mind about these
vaccines and then be able to show them the evidence
and have them make their own decisions. That's the ideal
situation in light of these realities. And so I sympathize
very much with Mary Bowden. You know, she's on my
board at VSRF and so and we're good friends, and
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so I certainly was in the same position that she
was in. This was not very acceptable to me. But
then RFK basically pointed out, Hey, you know, we live
in a world where you can't necessarily get everything you want,
so I think in light of all of these things,
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that that's the best That was the best choice. So
but I also, you know, you have to understand.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, I got to see, you know, there was something
that did inspire some confidence in doctor Casey Means being nominated,
and it was this article that they Associated Press put out.
They are doing a hit job on her, And you
know what, I'm like, Well, if the Associated Press is
coming out with this headline that the Surgeon General pick
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is praised an unproven psychedelic therapy mushrooms helping her find love,
I'm like, well, they they certainly don't like her, so okay,
maybe she's good. It's like in this environment that's you
can sometimes judge how good someone might be based on
the legacy media reaction.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Right there, you go, Yeah, it's a confirmation that he
made the right pick.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Now and something else that you've been saying that people
can have a lot of hope in because maybe they're
not very happy about this pick and have their reservations there.
I think we all have a bit of a small
bit of a trauma from everything that we've all been through.
Many people in this movement have been silenced, they've been attacked,
they've been persecuted both in law, fair pulled off, silenced
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on social media. So I think there is a little
bit of an element to that with people's reactions. But
one thing that you said that is giving us hope
is that you are feeling pretty confident that we may
be reaching the beginning of the end for COVID.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Shots, certainly on the childhood vaccine schedule. I've gotten multiple
inputs from various people who I don't want to name,
but there are people who would now be in a
position to know what's going on, and it seems like
it's inevitable. So Martin McCay, for example, recently hinted at hey,
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it's coming off, So that's good. I'm waiting for that
to happen, and it can't happen soon enough. It should
be pulled off the market for everyone. You know, I've
been I've got this million dollar bet that the vaccines
have killed more people than they've saved. So we have
like this two million dollar pot that the winner gets
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if they're right. And so I've been looking at all
sorts of different ways to show whether the COVID vaccines
have been effective or not. In the most recent analysis
that I've done, a plot the COVID deaths for very
old people, people born in nineteen thirty five versus people
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born in nineteen fifty. And what's interesting is that the
COVID death curve when they rolled out the vaccine, it
should have cratered. It should have gone from what it
was before they started rolling out the shots, and then
it should have then started going and almost flatlining by
the time they got to all of the elderly. And
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so you should have seen this ever changing slope, and
we saw nothing. The slope didn't change. The slope was
perfectly straight when they rolled out the vaccines versus by
the end that they had got eighty percent rollout for
the elderly, and there was no change in the rate
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of COVID deaths. And then you have a control group,
which are the people born in nineteen fifty. Those people
didn't get the shots until later. Those people showed a
straight line too, So it wasn't that the virus was
deflecting or changing such that it would cause the death
to be a straight line. No, the deaths were a
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straight line because the vaccine had no impact whatsoever on
COVID deaths. So we basically turned the entire world upside
down for this COVID vaccine that did nothing, and we
were able to open up even though the COVID vaccine
didn't do anything. It's stunning when you think of the
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trillions of dollars that were wasted because of people's belief system,
and people were never told, hey, by the way, just kidding,
The COVID vaccine did nothing whatsoever. You didn't need to
lock down at all, You didn't need to do any
of this. The whole vaccine program was completely ineffective in
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terms of COVID moretality.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yes, unsafe and ineffective.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Now we know that it was important to the big
pharma depopulation globalists. We know that it was important for
them to have this on the child vaccine schedule because
that gives them an extra layer of liability protection. It's
really shocking to wrap your mind around that this COVID
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nineteen vaccine is still approved for emergency use. There is
no emergency anymore, and now we're learning there really never was.
It's my understanding that as long as a vaccine is
at minimum thirty to fifty percent effective, that it can.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Be on the emergency use authorisy. That's my understanding.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I could be wrong in that now that you are
finding more and more evidence than not only is it
not even thirty to fifty percent effective, but not effective
at all? What's it going to take for this EUA
to be removed at this point?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I mean, this is insane.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yes, I agree with you. It's zero percent effective. There's
no more emergency. Why is this on the market. And
the answer to that I obtained by talking to RFK
Junior directly, And the answer is that there were other
things that were predicated under the EUA that would disappear
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and not be available anymore that people wanted available. So
there were some things that were tied to the EUA.
So it's not the drug itself, but there were some
other things. And I didn't delve into details, but he
said it's complicated and we're they're looking at ways to
circumvent that. But that's the reason that it's in place.
(15:50):
It's not because he believes that the COVID vaccines are safe.
I don't think he believes that. It's just that there
were some complications that sort of fallout that if they
remove the EUA, that this would cause other things that
they wanted to have in place disappear. So I don't
know what the details are, but that that's the reasoning
behind it, and I don't think anybody knows that.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Wow, let's move on to this measles narrative. It's very
interesting the timing how these supposed acceleration of deaths happened
just before our FK Junior's confirmation hearing.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
They gave them AMMO as something else to press about.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And if you do that deep dive, which I'm just
kind of starting to do, it's really quite shocking anything
from Debora Burks being in the same area where these
children supposedly got measles and supposedly died of measles, which
you know, again, you can go down a whole rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
But Melinda Gates was on.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
CNN continuing to push this typical narrative that vaccine save lives.
You shared that video clip. I wanted to play that
and then we can talk more about that.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
On the other side, you mentioned vaccines.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
This administration is now in a way a bit of
an incubator for vaccine skepticism, both here in the United
States and around the world.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
What are the consequences.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Of that children's lives? So we have seen children die
in the United States now of measles. There is no
child in the world that ever needs to die of measles,
and we haven't seen that in a long time in
the United States, and that is because of vaccine hesitancy.
And so I don't think that is right for the world.
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These are life saving tools.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Talk right there though, She's like people have died, and
I mean, we're finding out that that that on its
face isn't even necessarily true.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Right, correct. These kids died from bad hospital protocols. They
had pneumonia as a consequence of measles, so they got
through measles and sometimes when you have a virus, you
can get pneumonia. And so she went in for essentially
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her pneumonia, and they gave her the wrong treatment, and
they didn't follow up, and they gave her the drugs.
It wasn't fast enough they should have given it. It
was like they waited like twelve hours or something. The
next day for the pharmacy to dispense the drug, and
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anybody who was paying attention should have diagnosed the correct
set of drugs. I mean you basically, they're essentially two
types of drugs that you give for pneumonia, and the
person who died, the child who died, they only got
one prong and it turned out that they should have
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gotten the other one because that's the standard of care.
So the er physician basically was and following the standard
of care for pneumonia. So the child died from pneumonia.
It's tragic, but the child didn't die from measles. It
is a mischaracterization, and this is just more of the
mainstream media blowing up on narrative which simply is not
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true when you look at the details. I know about
two measles deaths, and both of them were not measles deaths.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And I know you can go, like I said, kind
of off the deep end when you start digging into
this kind of stuff, But I mean, I do think
it's worth noting that it is a little bit strange
that Deborah Burke's, who was in this top position in
the previous administration when the pandemic started it's really Isn't
it really strange that she would be then reassigned to Lubbock, Texas.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I mean, I'm in Texas right now. Lubbock. It's not Dallas,
not Ozen, this is.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Not very densely populated, So she's sent there, and then
it just so happens that she's out there right near
this hospital where you know, these these occurrences occurred.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
It's just it's it's strange.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I'll say that, Uh, it's you're You're absolutely correct. It
is very strange. It's an amazing coincidence, and it probably
wouldn't happen in a million years, so there's probably something
going on here.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
That correlation.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
In fact, the causation correlation.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
You point out, it's extremely.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
It's it's a stunning coincidence that I haven't calculated the
odds on that one, but they've got to be really small.
And I also wanted to add something about Melinda Gates.
If Melinda Gates really cared about kids, she would be
looking into the ten pure reviewed articles that compared kids
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with no vaccines versus kids that are fully vaccinated, and
she would find that the kids who are fully vaccinated
are worse on every single health condition that they monitored for,
including autism. And it's very rare to find an unvaccinated
kid with autism, and it's extremely common to find a
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fully vaccinated kid with autism. They tend to stop vaccinating
after they get autism from their vaccine. But you know,
the McDowell triplets is the perfect example of that.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
How do you have triple when.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You had to do would say that, All you had
to do was say that, and my stomach turned. It's
just it's it's so heartbreaking, Like I mean, I just
like tear up thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Triplets, beautiful triplets, Oh my gosh. I mean if people don't.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Know hours, yeah, two hours after their vaccine shot, they
become permanently autistic for the first one and then the
last one took them me like six hours or so,
but there's no denying it. Within hours of the shot,
all three kids are autistic. So when when we hear
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that from the mainstream media that we we don't know
what causes autism, but we know for sure it's not
the vaccines, nobody will go on camera explaining to me
how the McDowell triplets god autism. Nobody will go on
camera explaining to me how Doug Holsted has forty four
patients that essentially went autistic overnight, meaning you know, within
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a within a day or two. And all of those cases,
all forty four, happened within a week after a vaccine,
not a week before the vaccine. Zero cases before that, zero,
All forty four cases, one hundred percent of the cases
are within a week after a vaccine. So tell me
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with a straight face that vaccines don't cause autism. And
I'm so. I'm telling Mellin the Gates you are doing
the world a horrible service having a kid develop autism.
Is it is not only destroys the child's life, but
it destroys the life of the family as well, and
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it creates divorces, and it just creates a huge mess,
and it creates a huge burden for society. And you
are silent, Melinda Gates, on the link between vaccines and autism.
And you should look at the data. But they won't.
They won't talk to anyone who disagrees with their viewpoints.
And that's the I mean, that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That is the problem is it's become such a pervasive
condition in our society that everyone has a family member
that has autism, and so there's of course, you love
your family members, and so you want to be defensive
of who they are.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
But I mean, and I think that there's guilt and shame.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I think there's so much to this that people people
don't if there is a connection. I think they truly
don't want to know because then the ramifications up there
that is huge and heartbreaking. And you know, but to
the triplet situation, you know, there would be some that
would say, well, this just shows that this is genetic
that all have they have them because it's genetic.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Now, what I think is.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
That I do think that there's genetic disposition to the
reaction to the shot, because clearly there's some that have
all these shots and they don't end up with autism, right,
But I do think that there's a genetic element to
it and that some have a genetic disposition of a
reaction to I certainly don't think a baby's being jabbed
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with like seventy two shots is ever safe or ever good,
but I think that some are more genetically predispos disposed
to having that inflammatory response, as I understand it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
What's your thoughts in that.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Well, certainly there could be a genetic component to it.
But you know, when they induce autism in rats in
order to do or maybe it's mice, in order to
do these autism studies, the way they induce autism is
through vaccination. So you know, to say that there's no
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link between autism and vaccination is insane when that's where
we're doing the experiments. That's how we're inducing autism in
animals through vaccination, you know. So and and also you
know there isn't a case where triplets get autism all
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at the same time, within hours of each other, that
is not linked to a vaccine. Show me that case.
It doesn't exist. And see that's the problem that when
when the triplets get autism. Yeah, if it was genetic,
the chance that it would happen right within two hours
after a vaccine are zero. It would happen at some
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random time. They would all become autistic at the same time.
But they're only becoming autistic at the same time when
it's two hours after a vaccine shot. Explain that one.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, now, you media exactly, you make too much sense. Now,
you also did a post on this autism narrative. You said,
if vaccines don't cause autism, you'd have to explain which
one of the five Bradford Hill criteria is not satisfied.
So can you explain this at Bradford Hill criteria and
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how it relates.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Sure, So, there's a there's a causality UH a set
of rules that people have adopted, and there there are
multiple rules, so that one of the rules there set
of rules for determining causality is Bradford Hill. And in
the case of a vaccine UH caused event, there are
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five conditions and there's there are somewhat more for in
general causality, but for for vaccines it's five conditions. And
so there are things like that, is there temporal proximity,
So if you do something, do you get a reaction?
Is there perhaps a dose dependent relationship so that if
you give someone twice as much do they develop? Are
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they twice as likely to develop the condition? Is there
a biological plausibility for the UH the reaction? So in
other words, if you looked at your clock and your
your your child died, there's there's there's no there's no
biological plausibility on that one. But there would be a
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block biological plausibility on Oh, look, we looked at these
m R and A shots and they're causing the immune
system to attack the body and we can see it
in the histopathology. Uh, these vaccines have very clear histopathology
signatures that are unique. We've never seen these kinds of
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injuries in someone who has been vaccinated and died before.
So this is novel to the pathologists. They've never seen
anything like it. And it only started after the vaccines
rolled out, So you got to think that you know,
there's something there. So these are the kinds of rules
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that the five rules for Bradford Hill for determined causality,
and the COVID shots meet all five, and of course
so does autism. You look at all five conditions. The
evidence is out there that it's causal. People just don't
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like to look at it. They don't like to refer
to it. And nobody will answer that question, Like when
I posted that, I posted that question a long time ago.
Did you see any body answering No?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Of course not, of course not.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
But that's the thing I mean, all of this defies logic.
You know, there was a protest in our protester in
RFK Junior's hearing just freaking out.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
They had to be taken out.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
We come to find out that it was the Ben
and Jerry co found one of the co founders, I believe.
So I'll play that in a minute, just to react
to that. But I mean, and then also on the
other side, just to wrap up, I mean, it's such
an uphill battle. There's so many things to get accountability
and truth out about and try and do something about.
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So hopefully you can offer us some encouragement on the
other side. But let's watch this video of this protester
at the RFK Junior hearing.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Find and disruptions will not be permitted.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Well, the committee conducts his business.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Capitol police are asked to remove and the individuals from.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So again the New York Post, I believe or not,
Actually the New York Times, I think did a confirm
that that was the Ben and Jury's dude, Like maybe
he's really upset that they can't have artificial colors or sweeteners.
And but I mean, this is wild that people are
protesting to that degree on efforts to save lives, on
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efforts to make things safer, on efforts to remove liability
so that these companies have more urgency to make things
be safe and effective.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I mean, it just blows your mind.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Well, it's because people have their belief system and they've
been misled by the system, and they're entrenched in their
belief system and you can't talk them out of it,
and so they're just going and protesting based on their beliefs. Now,
I couldn't even understand what he said in that.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Clip either, just make a noise.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
So yeah, I mean, I you know, maybe there's some
things that RFK has said that I haven't looked into.
But the things that I know about that RFK has
said he's right on, and the stories that he tells,
especially his story with Paul Offit in his conversation with
Paul Offit where he caught Paul off It in a
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lie and then he said, well, so can you show
me the papers, and so that Paul off It says,
I'll get back to you, and Paul Offitt never did.
It just shows you that this is why people won't
debate RFK. It's not because he's not a scientist, is
it because he's got this photographic memory for everything, and
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you can't you can't deny it. I mean, he's he's
got all the facts behind him, and so it becomes
very difficult for anybody to say that he's spreading misinformation
or he's not telling you the truth, because he's got
all the references. And so this is why you don't
see these people challenging him. He's been trying for twenty
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years to get a debate on autism. Twenty years and
he's not been able to debate anybody in the medical community.
After twenty years of trying. Why don't they just silence him.
All they have to do to is agree to a
debate with him on autism, and they would silence him.
It would be over. And yet they're not agreeing to it,
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which means they're afraid. They're afraid that everybody will know
once the debate goes out. Hey, you were the guy
who messed it up and lost to Kennedy. And now
everyone believes that vaccines cause autism because they should believe
that because Kennedy is right, and nobody will challenge him.
Nobody was willing to challenge him in over twenty years
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and to this day, nobody wants to challenge him.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, they'd rather just like name call and try and
disparage him. But I got to move toward rapping.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
But I do want to leave this point kind of
bringing it back to the beginning. As our Occa Junior
told you, you know, well you got to play politics.
So how how do you balance that with we need
accountability yesterday? I mean time is ticking. There are more
children being injured every day that are falling victim to
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the narrative of like, oh, it's you got to get
all of these shots. As soon as your baby comes
out your body, you got to start pumping the full
of these shots for their own good. I mean this
is happening every day. People are being injured, people are
dying like this is urgent. So how do we balance.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
That with having to play politics? I mean this is
a beast.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, I think the tide turns when the majority of
the American public says take these shots off the market.
And I've been told that it's not at fifty percent yet,
which is surprising to me because most Americans aren't getting
any booster shots and so I actually yeah, I mean
I'd like to see that the polling for where Americans
(34:00):
stand on this, and I think that would help to
change it. But another thing that would help to change
it is that if there was a single courageous mainstream
media reporter, whether that reporter is at the New York Times,
whether the reporter is at the sixty minutes Washington Post, whatever,
somebody who's willing to speak the truth and probably get
(34:26):
fired for doing that. But as soon as you start
to see a mainstream media reporter lose their job, maybe
it's one, maybe it's two, maybe it's three, those people
would be the heroes because those people will wake America
up because they would tell people, hey, you know, we
have been not able to tell you this story. It's
(34:46):
important that people know. And the more people that are
credible that start to speak out the truth, the faster
that we can change the opinion of the American people,
which then makes things politically possible, because you look at
the Senate, for example, and the Democrats are all, oh,
(35:08):
vaccines are great, and vaccines don't cause autism, and you
can't take away the mRNA shots, and so I think
that the Senate is kind of this reflection of America.
They're definitely more extreme than America. In other words, I
think that every Democrat says that the vaccines are great.
(35:29):
I don't think that's true in the general public, but
it's a barometer. It shows where people are at. So
when are we going to be able to turn a
Democrat in the Senate or a Democrat in Congress to
be going from a pro vaccine position to a truthful
(35:50):
position about being at a minimum against the mRNA shots.
And so far these people just don't want to engage
in any conversations at all. So, for instance, I reached
out to Maggie Hassan's office after she gave that passionate
speech about there's nobody that wants to find the cause
(36:13):
of autism more than me. So I reached out to
her staff and I said, great, let's have a meeting
with a bunch of autism experts. And I got back, well, Maggie,
the senator won't meet with the autism experts, but the
staff will. So great. We wrote back and they said, okay, great,
(36:33):
when can we schedule this? Didn't hear back. That's the
way it goes. They don't want to hear well.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I mean, that's the big problem, Steve, is the mainstream
media is so largely funded by big Pharma and all
of these dollars that they literally cannot even touch that
topic or risk losing their funding. And it's a dying
industry as we know it, and then we know that
so many lobbyists own the representative, so it's definitely a beast.
(37:02):
I do think that we need to pray for just radical,
miraculous movement on this, but at least that we have
the efforts of you and efforts of RFK Junior, and
so we'll just keep an eye on that.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I want to encourage.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Folks to follow your substack, follow you on x st
kersh on x and he has a link to his
substack there. Always doing excellent research and always giving those
million dollar bets to people that nobody takes you up.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Because they know they can't they can't win them.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
So thank you for everything you're doing, Steve, and I'll
look forward to talking to you next time.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Thanks Christy, and thanks for everything that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Of course, all.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Right, if only we had a question in the mainstream
methods sooner, perhaps cancer wouldn't be so pervasive. Up next
here from a fifty year cancer survivor the unconventional way
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the mainstream cannot be only life changing, but life saving.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Rick Hill.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
He ignored the media, mainstream, medical doctors, big pharma and
government health agencies when they told him be seventeen was dangerous.
He ignored the doctors that said he had to have
chemotherapy and radiation. Today, because of those brave decisions, Rick
Hil is celebrating his fiftieth year without cancer, and he's
joining us to talk about his lifelong health journey, about
choosing leatril, how he all these crazy efforts.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Let's go ahead and bring you in, rack Hill. Thank
you so much for being here.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Thank you, Christine. Nice to be here. I enjoyed your
last interview too. It's great.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Thank you, Ed.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I'm sorry I kept you waiting there for a bit.
We gotta started a little bit late. But happy to
have you here.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Rick Hil. You know the part that I didn't hit
is man, you.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Had so much can about rejecting the mainstream method that
you were even smuggling these drugs across the borders, these good,
real life drugs. So tell me about that, Like, where
did you get this conviction that it would be a natural,
God given thing that would help you.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Well, this was fifty years ago and I was at
the Mayo Clinic. I'd had eight hours of exploratory surgery
and they came back to me and said, okay, here's
the You have it on your neck, you have it
on your feet, and it is systemic. So you have
(40:42):
embryonic cl carcinoma and it is systemic. They classify that
high grade stage three, whatever that means. But I said,
well what I asked the chemo therapist, what would you
do if you were me? And he leaned back in
a chair and he said, invite your family in. In
(41:04):
other words, we got to decide who gets a gold watch.
And on a Friday they told me they had scheduled
chemo for Monday, and of course we just go along
with it. You know, they're the Mayo Clinic. And I
got a letter that afternoon Friday from a John Bircher.
(41:28):
Do you remember that organization? Yes, okay? And I opened
the letter from a friend of mine and he said,
if you want to live, you're going to have to
leave the Mayo Clinic. So I knew. I called him
(41:48):
up and I said, do you know where I am?
He said, yeah, I put it in my note. You're
at the Mayo Clinic. And I said, why in the
world would I want to leave here? He said, well,
I agree that they're the citadel of modern medicine. But
I don't think it's medicine you need. I think you
(42:09):
need to go somewhere where they understand the immune system.
So I said, and where would that be? And he said,
are you sitting down? I thought, oh, great, yeah, John,
I'm sitting down. Okay, I think you need to go
to Tijuana. Can you imagine? And I said, what are
(42:31):
they going to give me in Tijuana? He said, well,
it's an extract from the apricot fruit. And I'm picturing
me going to my family and saying, Okay, I'm going
to leave the Mayo clinic. They're going to take some
form of apricots shove them in my veins. And I
(42:51):
didn't have insurance there, but I did at the Mayo Clinic,
and I called the chemotherapist and I said, I got this.
Let I don't know what to do. I'm just really confused.
And there was a long pause, and one of the
best things happened to me at that point. He said, well, Coma,
(43:14):
it is warm in Tijuana this time. He year, In
other words, we're not going to help you. They're probably
not going to help you in tj but if you
want to go lay on the beach and sip tequila.
Go ahead, and I said to him, message delivered.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
I got up the pon.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
I met with my family that night. They reacted the
way you think they might react. We're from Detroit. I
learned more swear words in five minutes, and I learned
growing up on the streets of Detroit. My younger my
older brother Sam Sam Hill. If you can believe that,
said Ricky, if you go to Tijuana, I will never
(44:00):
speak to you again. He said, we always knew you
were stupid, we just didn't know how stupid. And they
got My father in law went around the room and
he said, I like it. I'll take him and I'll
pay for part of it. I said, deal. And we
(44:20):
went down to Tijuana to the Contreras clinic, the famous one.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
And so remind me how old were you at.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
This time, twenty four, twenty four while and I'm seventy
four now. So they gave me this fifty year award,
you know, for yeah, for doing the fifty years. And
doctor Contreras asked me the second turning point in my
(44:51):
you asked why I was so confident? He said, are
you willing to do everything we ask you to? Do
when you get down here. And I said, I don't know, Doc,
I mean, you didn't send me a list. You may
want me to hang by my toes. I don't know.
He said, what we're trying to do, Rick, is bring
(45:12):
your immune system online. I need an ally in this fight.
I can't beat this without you. And if you're willing
to follow the diet we give you and the detox
instructions and take the shots that we want to give you,
(45:32):
I think you can recover, but only if you follow
what we ask you. And then I learned that my
church was paying my way. First Baptist church was going
to annie up. And I said, Doc, if these people
come to the rescue, and my father in law came
to the rescue, and the chemotherapist came the rescue, I'm
(45:55):
going to do whatever you ask. And here's a Detroit
g reasearchit it going to Tijuana to learn how to
be a tree hunker. I'd never been to help.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
Yeah, I mean it's such a it's such a compelling
story that I do want to mention that you have
written a book, Too Young to Die, and I believe
you wrote another one as well.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, too Young to Die is the current current one
that's on Amazon. Uh, next week it'll be on Amazon.
It's new, and it's it's not me telling you all
the trophoblastic theories of cancer, all of the complicated things
I've read. It's me telling you here's how I saved
(46:45):
my life. Thank God for people who stood in the pathway,
and the story comes out great and excellent and.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Thank God, I mean, just to.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
To make sure that we mentioned real quick, thank God
for John Richardson and what he's doing over at Richardson
Nutritional Center. You can actually go to RNC store dot
com slash k l. That's RNC store dot com, slash
kl That's where you can get your apricot seeds, your
latrol needs, which is a part of There you Go,
which is part of the protocol that Rick Hill followed
(47:20):
to stay cancer.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Free for fifty years. That there you Go.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
So if you know anyone who has cancer, if you've
just been diagnosed with cancer, this what's the harm and
trying this before you do the very pervasive chemo therapy
and radiation. So many stories like yours reck of people
that actually were able to turn around their cancer diagnosis
just by taking God's gift of apricot seeds and the
(47:49):
leatrol inside to us. But I got to ask, because
you were saying all these people were telling you were stupid,
they were freaking out. What did they say and how
did they react? Did they become believers once you started
seeing results.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
You would think so, wouldn't you.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
But no.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Example of the COVID shot. I didn't take the COVID shot.
I'm not going to members of my family did. And
I just I called them up and I said, what
would I have to do, you know, to show you
that your body's not lacking you know, spike protein. You
(48:38):
don't need it, it's bad for you, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
And so.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
They really don't come around because when you have a
narrative that you've invested yourself in, it doesn't matter. They
just figured I got lucky. You know that it was
a natural remission. You come up with explanation. And yet
I was at the Mayo Clinic a month having all
this treatment, even even painkillers, you know, and I didn't remit.
(49:14):
I didn't go into remission. They said my chemotherapy was mandatory.
But then I left. In the one month, three weeks,
I was at the Oasis of Oak Hospital in Tijuana.
My cancer began to go away, collar came back, little
weight came back on, started getting ornery again. Yeah, three weeks.
(49:40):
So it doesn't matter. Sometimes the proof that you give
in fact, there's a there's a book you want proof.
G Edward Griffin wrote a book called World Without Cancer
The Story of ITAM seventeen. That book, all the science,
(50:02):
all the arguments. You can't read it and go, there's
nothing here. This is just hearsay. No, it's solid, solid work.
And yet you know Big Pharma said it'll kill you.
I tested well on that note.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
On that note leaa trill, you know from the apricot seeds,
what the resistance do you get? Like even I was
so disappointed Mom. I know sometimes you watch my shows.
I'm sorry, but I was so disappointed in you when
I was telling her about all this, and she's like, yeah,
but I you know, I read that the apricot seeds
(50:40):
can be like toxic or poisonous, And I'm like.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
What did we all go through with like the main narrative?
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I mean, because she knew better not to take the
COVID chat and she knew better with all this other stuff.
But then I'm like, but now you're gonna believe this,
and so did you ever come up with that, come
up with that resistance?
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Like, oh, isn't that poisonous or toxic? And how did
you know better?
Speaker 4 (51:02):
It has cyanide in it, but so does two hundred
and thirteen other foods have cyanide. Lima beans are rich
in cyanide. Apple seeds are rich in cyanide. The fact
of the business is that your body's able to differentiate.
And it isn't just the latro we're using. We're using
(51:25):
an enzyme chemotripsen and tripsin. Those are so important because
you take them between meals. You're not trying to digest
the steak. You just state you're trying to remove a
protein coating from the cancer you might have. When that happens,
that brings your immune system online. That doctor Contreres talked about,
(51:49):
he said, that's my ally. I can win with that.
But you have to take those enzymes, and then the
leatl has got to be present to poison those particular cells,
not all your cells, just those with this little bit
of poison. I took six grams of it, not milligrams,
(52:10):
six grams of it in one day intravenously. I didn't
get a headache, I didn't throw up, my hair didn't
fall out. That thing about toxicity is just bunk. It
doesn't exist in the real world. So I explain all that.
But again, if their narrative is different, then they say, well,
(52:33):
I believe doctor Schmatz. He brought me into this world.
He would never lie to me. Oh boy, Doctor Schwartz
got less than ten hours of nutritional training to get
his medical degree. He knows less than the lady at
the health food store when you walk in the door.
(52:54):
So yeah, I believe in western medicine. If I get
run over by a truck and I need to be
put back together, thank god that they're there. But if
you have a metabolic disease, you need someone that understands
the immune system. And modern medicine just doesn't give us
(53:16):
much for that. Sorry doesn't. And I'm here to testify
and I'm not alone.
Speaker 7 (53:22):
Yeah, and you've been on this protocol, you've been taking
lantroll and enzymes and all of that for fifty years,
and you seem more energetic than me.
Speaker 8 (53:33):
Quite Frankly, I'm seventy four years old, and I don't
I just I see most seventy four year olds, and
you see them in the supermarket and they're leaning on
the twitch handle, their cart is full of sugar things,
and their legs are all swollen up and turning dark
(53:53):
from diabetes.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
And come on, yeah, you're you're the biggest selling point, Rick, Rick,
I'm up against the clock now. I still got I
still got to give time to give my verse of
the day. But Rick, I so enjoyed your story. Really
want to encourage others to read it. Go to Amazon
get Too Young to Die to read Rick's story about
his bravery that ultimately saved him from cancer.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
If I rejected, it means your narrative, which is what I'm.
Speaker 4 (54:20):
Always My book is available at r n C.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
R n C store. Yes that's a better option, that's
way better. Yes, Yes, thank you so much. Rick, really
enjoyed speaking with you.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
You bet so again. That's r n C store dot com.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
Slash k L used promo code k L to get
to discounts. You gotta give it a try. You can
take the raw apricot seeds. They do taste a bitter,
but that's that's in its purest form of raw apricot seeds.
Or you can get the capsules the leatrill and get
the enzymes, get the protocol, but you have to try.
(55:03):
If you or anyone else you know is at risk
of or has been diagnosed with cancer, you're not gonna
hear this anywhere else. They won't let you say that.
But this is a so many success stories. Now I
want to give it the averse of the day. Make
sure I get that in and here it is, you
adulterous people. Don't you know that friendship with the world
(55:24):
means enmity against God. Therefore, anyone who chooses to be
a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
And that kind of and that's from James four to four.
That kind of goes along with my point. If you're
trusting the world, if you're friends with the world, well
then you're an enemy. You got you got to go
the narrow path. It just might save your life. RNC
store dot com slash kal. Also, you can support the
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Speaker 8 (55:52):
Well.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Thank you for watching Get Free with Christy Lee, and
make sure you spread the word, share with others, i'll
see you next time.
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