Warrior & Warpaint: Veteran Insights & Drag Queen Dissent | Tyler Grey & Ryan Hansen aka "Lady MAGA" - Get Free with Kristi Leigh

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Incredible lineup for you.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
First, we're sitting down with a combat tested veteran who's
seen numerous deployments across the Middle East, bringing his battle
hardened insights into the region's crazy dynamics. And then we're
chatting with a conservative drag queen. Now that might sound
like opposite things, but just trys to be keep an
open mind. He's got a bone to pick with Pride
month as Lady Maggie USA. He's sharing his worries that

(00:23):
Maga's getting tarnished by neocon influence, so he'll share that
as well.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
This is going to be a wild ride the news.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
You need to know what with solutions and hope this
is get free with Christie Lee.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
President Trump take in a victory lap on his work
to bring peace to the Middle East.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Earlier today, he posted this untrue social both Israel and
Iran wanted to stop the war equally. It was my
great honor to destroy all nuclear facilities and capability and
then stop the war emphasized in all caps.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Here to discuss is Tyler Gray.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
He's a star of Seal Team, a former Delta Force operator,
and the author of Forged in Chaos Warriors origin story
Tyler Gray is a combat tested veteran who had numerous
deployments across the Middle East and can offer insight into
the region's complex dynamics.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
So, Tyler, thank you so much for being here.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
You bet Now, obviously you know the firsthand horrors of war,
ones that can enter your mind. And what's really amazing
is that now you help other veterans with their mental health.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
And we're going to be talking about your book in
just a moment, but.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I wanted to start with, Wow, you know, so much
is happening, the new cycles going so quickly. Let's talk
about how this Middle East conflict has escalated and how
it has I did the MAGA world, What are your
thoughts on that?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I mean, how would escalated? It's really been escalating for
you know, decades at this point. I don't think any
reasonable person could not come to the obvious conclusion that
Iran has been trying to develop a nuclear weapon for years,
you know. And look, they're kind of like an Orwellian
double speak the way they talk, because on one hand

(02:28):
they'll say, oh, we're just developing it for peaceful purposes,
and then on another hand, you know, they'll post that
a surprise is coming that the world will remember for
centuries with a picture of a mushroom cloud. So you
really can't take anything they say. But based on their
behavior with the UN they've been doing a cat and
mouse game with their NUCER facilities for decades now. So

(02:50):
this has been a long time in the making, and
I think it got to the point where they had
actionable intel to where something needed to be done, and
both Israel and then the US took action based on
that intel. Far as the division, you know, look as
a veteran who served in two wars and who is

(03:10):
severely wounded in combat, Yeah, it's there's no way to
do war clean and in my opinion, it should absolutely
be avoided all by all costs. And again we don't
I agree completely that the US shouldn't get involved in
any quote unquote forever wars. That being said, I think
it's pretty obvious, not just by the actions that were taken,

(03:34):
which were very limited strikes on pretty much arguably abandoned targets.
You didn't hear Iran complain of a single civilian being,
you know, killed American bombs. It obviously took out facilities
known to be used for enriching uranium. So look, there's

(03:56):
gonna be division. And I absolutely understand people's mentality of
wanting to continue with some level of isolationism. I get that.
At the same time, I think people need to understand
that we don't live in the same world we lived
in fifty, you know, years ago. There really is no way,
with the current level of technology and trade integration between

(04:19):
countries to be completely isolationist. At a certain point, things
are going to creep up on you and other countries
and state sponsors. Terrorism is going to eventually be a
threat if you don't proactively act. And that's what I
think we saw her the other day.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Now, because you know this region, well, you know, Trump
is taking this victory lap.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
I mean I feel like he's.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Kind of already burned, been burned a little bit because
he announced the Seaspire and then we saw that huge
bombing from Israel and he rat like there were some
strikes after the seasfire were supposed to be implemented. But again,
because you know this region, well, well, what is your
confidence that we will get to a c spire that
will stick at least for some good time.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
I think we will and again this is just my
personal opinion based on my experience in that region. I
personally think and Trump really made this clear he actually
and I really have the same opinion. I do think
that that whatever Eraan launched, I actually think you look,
if you look at how much their command and control

(05:30):
and their communications were destroyed, it's entirely possible that whoever
launched that missile quote unquote didn't get the memo. They're
in the middle of the desert, they're not doing the news,
and so either whether it's incompetence intentional, but I personally
think it's highly possible that the regime didn't intend to

(05:52):
launch one missile. If they did, they would have launched
more than one. And then I understand Trump's frustration with
the retaliation. Look, Bill's opinion is, if you hit us once,
we're going to hit you ten times harder, And that's fine.
But I do agree with Trump that given the circumstances,
it was probably the wrong reaction given the action.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Excellent.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Now let's talk about what kind of sparked this particular
part off as recently as the destruction of the nuclear facilities,
the US coming in to become involved at what level
could be argued, but they did get involved in bombing

(06:39):
these facilities, and then there was even talk about, oh,
you know that was theater, like they didn't actually take
anything out.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
And JD.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Vans was confronted with this on if indeed they were
able to reduce the uranium enrichment. He kind of was
a little bit dodgy with his response, what's your take
on how effective that strike was?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I am of the opinion, And again Ran does this
double speak? You know, on one hand they're like, oh, it
wasn't destroyed, and then on the other hand, you had
a recent statement where whoever it was, said, we're going
to completely rebuild our new nuclear facilities.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Which the ones that weren't destroyed, gotcha.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
It lends itself to the fact that it was destroyed.
So look, I know how good our intel is, I
know how good our battle damage assessment system is. I
have absolutely one hundred percent confidence that the targets that
we hit were completely and utterly destroyed. Far as the
talk about the enriched uranium being moved on trucks possibly

(07:53):
prior to Look, there's quite a few things that I
know from my time being in that that I cannot
share obviously, but I understand in many of those occasions
why the government doesn't put it out to the public.
The public has to understand that if it's put out
to the public, it's put out to the enemy. And

(08:15):
so there's quite a few things that are withheld from
the public for obvious reasons. So the enemy doesn't know.
It's my personal opinion that either that uranium enriched uranium
was destroyed or they know exactly where it is and
they're doing that for a very good reason. But we
have to understand that our level of intel and knowledge

(08:39):
at this point, and Israel's level of intel is so
spot on that they're not pulling anything over, they're not
pulling the wool over our eyes going on, and they're
dealing with it in the way that playing checkers. In
my opinion, well, that.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Definitely inspires more confident. But let's talk about your experience
in the Middle East. I mean, you just said there's
only so much you can tell us, but particularly what
you experienced that led you to writing this book that
will be coming out on July fifteenth. I believe Origin
kas a warrior's origin story. Tell me about what your
experience was like, So you know.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
My experience being a you know, at a very high
level of US special operations. You know, I was in
a unit. I was doing pretty much the job of
my dreams for lack of a better term, And when
I got I got blown up in Solder City, Iraq,
which led to you know, a medical retirement and around

(09:42):
a four year recovery of surgeries. And what I realized,
you know, when I when I got out past that
point and started talking to you know, the VA and
therapist and the mental health community, I was told that
the problem was you know, this PTSD. You know that
that's that's your issue. And in my experience, based on

(10:02):
what they were telling me, it just didn't seem to
fit with how I was feeling and what I was experiencing.
So at that point I went on around a fifteen
year journey. I read all the books, and I really
thought long and hard and was writing a journal for
years to understand what were the problem I was experiencing.

(10:23):
And then once I felt like I had enough pieces
of the puzzle to see a clear picture, I used
the lessons that I'd learned to help myself, and once
I realized that it worked, I then had to put
it into a book and get it out there, hopefully
to help others.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
So the title of the book again is Forged in Chaos.
And so you talk about how basically the war experience.
You're going to explain this much better than me. But
what I take from it, I mean, it is a
chaotic experience. And so then when you return home, it's
almost like you and you then turn to other things

(11:01):
for that same chaotic experience as almost some kind of
a coping mechanism.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
So the way I explain it, and again it's easy
for me to say, in hindsight, it was very I
had no idea why I was doing what I was
doing for years. But the way I explain it is,
you know, most people you know, they say it's PTSD
post traumatic stress disorder. The problem with that diagnosis is
that assumes a pre traumatic stress environment. And for myself

(11:33):
and many many, many veterans as well as first responders
that I speak to and have worked with over the years,
we never had a pre traumatic stress baseline. Most of us.
The term Forged in Chaos about the book is not
about combat. It's about a chaotic childhood. And once you
experience a chaotic childhood, it rewires your brain to be

(11:57):
calm in chaos, which allows you to do these jobs, which,
let's be honest, running into a fire, running into a
building where people are shooting out of that's not normal.
So a normal nervous system, a normal brain wiring, shouldn't
be able to do that. But if you're forged in
chaos and wired for that, chaos becomes your homeostasis, it

(12:19):
becomes your baseline. So then what happens is it allows
you to do that job and do it well. But
once you leave that job and then you try and
go back to a normal, non chaotic society, you're not
wired for it. When chaos is in the environment, I'm calm.
When the environment is calm, I'm chaotic. And the way

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I calm myself is by creating chaos in the environment,
which then puts me back to my homeostasis. I call
that lack of traumatic stress disorder or LTSD, which is
a theory that I created based on my experience, and
it seems to resonate with with veterans and first responders

(13:02):
that feel the same way.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, the way you laid it out makes a lot
of sense, and it's an interesting perspective that no one's
offered up before, and obviously you want to help others
that can relate to something that they haven't heard before.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Or why am I like this?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
You know? And so how did you come up with
this with this theory on on being able to To me,
it almost seems like this propensity to have self destructive behavior,
I mean, and again, I'm sorry, I'm saying it wrong.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Okay, good, I want No, you are one hundred percent correct,
that's and that so what I do in the book
is again we've been told it's PTSD, which is one
thing that's going to be treated by talk, therapy and
medications for the rest of your life. The reality is
it's not one thing. And the proof of that is

(13:57):
if PTSD was the problem in the veteran community, treatment
and awareness is at an all time high, and yet
the problems getting worse. The fact that it's getting worse
logically proves to me that it can't be the core disease.
And so there's many aspects of it that I cover
in the book. But you talk about self destruction being

(14:20):
addicted to chaos, which is also what LTSD is. In
another way to say, it is absolutely fundamentally self destructive.
To your point, think of you know military, you know
combat military as well as law enforcement as well as
firefighters and ems. Those are fundamentally self destructive jobs. You

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do the jobs at a potential sacrifice of yourself and
so you are absolutely correct, correct, you have to be
at some level fundamentally destructive to do that job. And
what I talk about in the book is where that
comes from, why it exists, and how to turn in
and around and overcome it. And the last part about

(15:05):
it is again, if you're fundamentally self destructive, that's great
to do the job, but then when you get out,
you're self destructive in your own life. And the book
talks about how so many things that made you quote
unquote superhero in the eyes of the world to do
these things actually ends up making you almost a super

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villain in your own life when you get out.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
What I love about reading about this book is that
I feel like there are people that can benefit from
reading it, even if they weren't in the military. What
stuck out to me was having this form of identity
crisis and finding purpose. Again, I think tons of people
can relate to that, especially in the post COVID world

(15:49):
where many many people like myself changed their career. I
was on this adrenaline high, you can say, from spending
years being a reporter and a television news anchor, and I,
you know, I would be on the scene of stakeouts
one day, running to hiding behind a car.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Again, nothing like the military. So please don't take that.
Don't think I'm like comparing it to that.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
I'm just saying for more average people that can take
something from this book. You know, I had deadlines, you know,
I had events to get to, and so there was
a lot of purpose and identity wrapped up in what
I did for a living. And so when I was like, oh,
this is all a fake world of fake.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
News and you know, uh, and I left, it was
very hard. It was I didn't know who I was
necessarily anymore.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
And so that's what's intriguing to me about your book is,
even though it's more for veterans, I think that people
that are not not veterans could take something from your
speaking on purpose and identity.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Identity changes.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
One hundred percent. And it's very funny because I've thought
quite a bit about this, but I've never spoken to
a person that did that job, and I would. I
am betting right now that you have the exact same pattern.
I am going to bet money that your childhood was
at some level chaotic which allowed you to be calm

(17:21):
in those chaotic environments. You're absolutely correct. The pattern that
I lay out in the book isn't for veterans nor
first responders. It's for anyone that had a childhood that
was so chaotic that their brain rewired itself to be
common chaos. And then on the identity piece, which you mentioned,
I for many years and many veterans, and again all

(17:42):
the different other people were talking about you, yourself included say,
oh I lost my identity when I lost my job.
I felt that way, and then one day I realized
that that wasn't actually true. The reality is I never
actually had a strong enough identity to begin with or
created one. And the reason I'm saying that is if

(18:03):
you had a strong enough identity prior to the job,
you wouldn't have taken the identity of the job. We
took the identity of a job because we had never
truly built our own based on who we were internally
without anything external because of that childhood, and that's a

(18:23):
very important point. And the same thing with purpose the
military or your job or any civilian's job that has
this issue. We accept other, you know, an identity and
a purpose given to us by another entity because we
never for established our own. And the key points in

(18:44):
this book are once you realize that, it then has
steps to take that allows you to take turn inward,
look at yourself through a different lens, and start to
forge a real identity based on who you intrinsically are,
not who you were expected to be or who others, uh,

(19:05):
you know, told you to be. And that's very important.
Self actualization is in my opinion, the most important way
to essentially be happy and truly know who you are.
And it takes time to figure that out, and there's
a process.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Wow, Like when you were talking, I got like chills
for a moment because I mean it's just so eye
opening when you speak on that level, because you know,
like you said, some people gravitate towards things because actually
they may have low self worth and so this is
an opportunity to you know, in a performance level, just
do what they're what they're told and perform and get

(19:44):
self worth out of that. And so when that crashes
or when that ends, it's like you don't have any
self worth. So I'm so excited to read your book.
I mean fascinating concepts and theories there and definitely think
it can be something that anyone can take away some
positive information from.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Where's the best place to pick up your book? Again,
it comes out on July fifteenth.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
But it's really important for people to pre order because
that helps helps spread the message.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Right, Yes, absolutely, it actually comes out literally three weeks
from today actually, and it's currently on pre order as
you said, on Amazon and Barnes and Noble. I also
have a website, Tyler A Gray Gray with the knee
dot com. But absolutely, pre order is really the best
way the way it works with their algorithms to pick

(20:34):
it up. But thank you so much, and you're one
hundred percent right, And it really is designed for anyone
who has any of the issues that we talked about.
If that sounds familiar. This book is absolutely written to
try and provide guidance and hopefully be a light for

(20:54):
others that are currently in the dark like I was
for many years.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Well, I love that, Tyler, Thank you so much for
writing this book, and I encourage people to pick it
up and thank you for your insights on what's going
on currently.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
I'm sure we'll have you back again soon.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
My absolute pleasure. Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
All Right, we are totally switching gears. We're gonna be
talking about Pride Month, but we are going to touch
upon the ongoing conflict and how some in the Maga
universe are are kind of feeling a little puzzled. Right now,
we'll say, in the nicest of terms, shed some light
on that. But first I just want to remind you

(21:34):
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All right, Like I said, we are switching gears, and
as Pride Month is coming to a close, I wanted
to invite my friend Ryan on the show. He has

(22:33):
a unique perspective on Pride, feeling rejected by community that
the tolerant loved should have welcomed him in. Yet seeing
what the alpha bet mafia, as he calls it, has become,
he wants no part of it anyway. Ryan Woods is
the one and only Lady Maga. He's a bold Utah
native turned political activist and former drag queen. He created

(22:57):
the iconic Lady Maga characters to poor Trump. He's had
a hunique journey from Salt Lake City's drag scene to
standing up for gun rights and conservative values. So Ryan,
thank you so much for joining me.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
It is an honor to be here. I'm your biggest fan.
I think you are a courageous journalist, and you're beautiful,
and you're gorgeous and you're just the best. So I truly,
truly am honored to be here with you right now.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
That's why you were one of my favorite guests. Just
blow me up.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
You know. We're going to talk Pride Month as well
as your current feelings on MAGA and how they might
have changed. But first I want to talk a little
bit about your journey. You gave up a job.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
And a career you loved to thrust yourself fired.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, okay, but you were fired because you were courageous
and standing up for what you believed in. So yes,
but yes, that is the caveat you were fired, and
then you you were thrust in in this position where
now you've been hated and rejected by both the left

(24:04):
and some on the right. And I really want to
point that out because some of us, you know, a
lot of us had this experience of either being fired
or leaving our careers post COVID, But there was like
another side, if you will, that we could retreat to.
And so that is why I have so much respect
for you and acknowledge just your amazing bravery and courage

(24:25):
because you went to a side that wasn't necessarily very welcoming.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Well, social media is so different than the in person experience.
I just want to say I had to eight year
career in the airline industry and I was fired because
I am a gay, conservative Trump supporter. So the woke
mob came for me, accused me of transphobia, islamophobia and

(24:54):
all these things. So they fired me for that. So yeah,
anybody who doesn't like my brand of conservativism standing up
against child mutilation and all the rest of the drag
queen story hour and the other things, it's like, what
have you sacrificed? What have you lost? And what legislation
have you got passed in your in your state exact?
I got a little sidetracked. What was your question?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
And so sorry, Well, I just I mainly want to
acknowledge that as as your background and as your current position.
And I want to take this opportunity to address anyone
who might not be happy with me interviewing you. And
they might scoff at like what a drag queen, A
conservative drag queen.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
That makes no sense. But Ryan, you know we've talked
about this before.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
The thing is is even for those that acknowledge homosexuality
as a sin, I've even told you that well, biblically,
I feel like it says that it's a sin you.
Your response is, hey, I would die for your right
to say that. You're such a free speech absolutist, and
I would tell people to keep an open mind as

(26:00):
far as just listening to you.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
And as you said, how much have you done?

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Because Ryan has protected our children, and he has done
it with integrity, and ultimately that.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Particular thing is between him and God.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
You can tell him what you think the Bible says
or what the Bible does say, and then it is
between him and God. And we are commanded to love
each other. And you are an advocate in protecting your children.
I can't say that loud enough. I'm seriously so to
God at anyone that would not listen to you, particularly
like I saw Matt Walsh post something mean and it's

(26:41):
just it's so maddening.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Well, if Matt Walsh could sit down and actually review
what I stand for, review how I've used drag. First
of all, gay is not who I am, it is
what it is. I'm not special. I don't need to planted,
I don't need a flag, I don't need a month
I think people just need to shut up and try
and live a life of dignity to the best of

(27:07):
their ability and not make that their identity. That's one
and two. Yeah, I mean I was a professional Britney
Spears impersonator in the impersonation show here in Utah where
they had like Dolly Parton and you know, Share and Brittany.
So that was a lot of fun. But then I
use drag as a political tool because the Left, they

(27:29):
can't argue with me when I say a man is
not a woman and they can never become a woman.
Look at me. I've got this wig on, I got
this makeup, I got this costume, and I'm not a woman.
I don't belong in women's sports. I don't belong in
women's bathrooms. And essentially what the majority what the majority

(27:49):
of these fetish alleged trans women, Uh, they're just they're
just really ugly drag queens who don't know how to do.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
And you're actually really beautiful, conservatively dressed drag quean, which
I love.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
I want to talk about, Yeah, I want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
And I want people to see you in your gear
and how you were exposing pride parades because it is
Pride month, and so let's play a little clip of
you at one just exposing how demented these people are.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Let's watch.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Can I ask you a quick question? Cant ask your question?
Right in there, they're selling fans that have the Sea
word on it. You have a little child here today.
Do you ever feel like Pride goes too far considering
their children here? Have you seen people wearing pasties or
thong I personally object to the adult nature of Pride,
such as that fan in there that has the Sea

(28:49):
word on it. I want them to make it more
family friendly. You're not going to find that if you
saw a man in a thong, you wouldn't be uncomfortable. No, okay,
I just walked behind a girl with the cutest ass. Well,
she showed half her ass, but she could do that
if you don't mind if your granddaughter sees it. Granddaughter
will choose what she wears. Be proud of your body.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
If she and I had to cut it off right there,
because the next thing that she says I just couldn't
even handle. Basically, she says in a very crude way
that if her daughter wants to show any part of
her body off, she's fine.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
With that sick so so.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
An innocent little girl listening to that perverted grooming grandmother
saying yeah, you saw the next part of that clip,
and then the end of that clip is I said,
what do you think about my friend's T shirt? He
was wearing a Trump shirt, and she said, I wouldn't
want my granddaughter around that, it's hideous. And I was like, so,

(29:45):
you're okay with public adult nudity and you just talked
about how your granddaughter should be able to expose her
body publicly, but you're not cool with a Trump shirt.
This is how deranged they are. This is what they've
normalized with the lgbt Q movement. I have to be
so clear. I do not identify or validy, or even

(30:10):
acknowledge the lgbt Q I A plus alleged community. Queer
theory is Marxism. Queer theory is predatory. Lgbt Q is
all focused on children, protect trans kids, because that narrative
is very lucrative for them. They sound like the good

(30:31):
guys like protect you know, trans kids. But it's predatory,
it's evil, it's satanic, and I had to step away. Look,
I have fun playing the character of Lady maga drags
a lot of fun, but I don't need to force
it on anybody, and I certainly don't need to use
it as a tool for indoctrinating or grooming other people's children.

(30:55):
It's it's shameful, it's awful, and I just I'm so
disgusted by the fact that somehow gay dudes like me
have to be lumped into that. And the majority of
gays are too leftists to say, wait a minute, I'm
not lesbian, queer, transgender, intersects all of this at the

(31:16):
same time, they're cowards and they're like, oh yeah, because
no one comes out as gay anymore. You'll notice they
come out as a member of the LGBTQ community. They're
about recruitment. They're aggressively recruiting new people to be part
of this community to gain political power, and they go

(31:37):
after the most vulnerable. They go after the feminine boy
who might just be feminine, likes pink, telling me it's trance.
They go after the tomboy girls, They go after the depressed,
fat people who need purple hair and to be queer
to get validation and attention. So I just refuse. I

(31:57):
stand against them. So anybody who hates that I do
or the hate that I'm gay, I get it. I
defend their free speech and I'm actually if you actually
go into my content, I am a staunch defender of
the traditional Christian white family because they're the backbone of
our society. There's a room for me to live my life.
But I live here in Utah and I benefit from

(32:19):
the fact that I'm surrounded by Mormon Christian traditional people,
So I defend the religion. I don't claim that homosexuality
is an ideal or anything special. It just is what
it is. It exists. But you know, we have we
have to defend the traditional Christian family because our nation

(32:42):
was founded on Christian principles. I am a believer in
Jesus Christ. He got me sober. It's been two and
a half years, so I you know, for people, I'm like,
I'm not against you. I defend your right and I'm
not I'm not offended. I don't get offend. I'm like,
you don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
What's tricky about this, Ryan is is that.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
You know, if you if you're someone that believes homosexuality
is wrong, it's crazy how that is just has to
be so like public and in your face when I
guarantee every one of us knows someone in our life
who is cheated on their spouse, someone in their life
who has lied or stolen some time in their life, you.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Know, And it's like that just gets like a free pass.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
And this is like the no no area that we
can't like check ourselves about loving others. And and also
again point out that we you know, the biblical truth
of the matter, but at the same time be loving
and that that's someone else's personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
As you said, your believer in Jesus Christ. You know,

(33:49):
if that's the revelation truth knowledge. Do you think that
anyone you're going to change Ryan's mind or anybody like
Ryan by being a jerk like and by being mean
like I.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Just don't understand that at all.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
But that being said, you're talking about this community and
we're it's often referred to as inclusivity. I'm being inclusive,
but what you're describing is such an exclusive club. And
then they are exclude others and not just exclude others,
but they hate them with a passion.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
And I wanted to.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Out of youd kicked out of Utah pride.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
I wasn't And actually I wanted to play that clip
if you don't mind, just the first part of it,
just so you can see how these people are that
are I supposely inclusive.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Let's watch this. Utah is kicking me out. So the
decision has been made by the people that are producing
this event that they not want you on property more okay,
but they will not tell me why. Hello, ladies and gentlemen,
it's Lady Maga Usa. I was kicked out of the
Utah Pride Festival. Your only option is you either you

(35:00):
leave willingly or the police escort you off property, a
gay man in a wig in a celebration that's supposed
to be all about diversity and inclusion. They told me
that if I did not leave, I would be arrested.
So either you leave, that's inclusive.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
And for these videos, please please please make sure you
follow at Lady Maga Usa on x and you can
watch these entire videos.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
So much amazing content that you produce.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
And we really want to spread that around. But yeah,
that's that's that's the crowd that is supposed to be inclusive.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Not inclusive of they knew somebody identified me as Lady
Maga I was just there doing like nice interviews. I
was actually really having wonderful conversations with his like trains whatever,
dude girl, I don't know what she was, but very
open to his conservative, rum supporting family, really good conversations.

(35:57):
I wasn't there to call it. I wasn't causing problem.
Somebody recognized me and had me threatened to be arrested
if I didn't get kicked out. So if you're white,
you're not really part of the community because you know
you need to step aside for marginalized people of color.
And if you're a Christian, absolutely or not welcome. If

(36:20):
you are heterosexual and you know white, you're not welcome.
And the number one enemy, and the number one person
who is never included, never welcomed, never accepted in their
community is a white Christian man who is the most
persecuted demographic on our planet right now. So they're not inclusive,

(36:44):
they're hypocrites, they're liars, they are exclusive, they are cultish.
And I don't call them the LGBTQ community. I call
them the LGBTQ mafia because they operate like a mafia.
They sabotage people, They go behind your bad like getting
me fired from my job, and they they're militant in

(37:05):
They don't want inclusion, acceptance, and freedom. They want cultural domination.
They want to force you. They want it to be
illegal for you to misgender someone like it is in
Canada you can go to jail and not calling a
man with a beard in a dress her.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
What.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
So that's what they want. They want to legislate their
views and put Christi in jail because in her church
it's bigotry and it's hate speech and it's literal violence.
So they won't stop until it's illegal for anyone to
disagree with them. And that's why I am a free
speech absolutist. I defend the N word. I defend anything

(37:47):
that no matter how offensive it is, because the only
way to stop offensive speech is more speech and exposing
it with counter arguments. So I just say anything. Anything
goes for me was in the appropriate, you know, not
in front of kids or whatever. But yeah, I'm a
free speech absolute. So you want to tell me I'm
going to hell. You want to tell me that i'm

(38:08):
you know, I'm responsible for trans suicides. That's what the
left always says. They say, Lady Maggan, You're literally responsible
for trans suicide. They're drugs that make them suicidal.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, that being all being said. Pride Month twenty twenty five,
I feel like it's looking a little bit different than
it has in years past. You see a lot of
you know, even like Target clearing out their LGBTQ mafia
uh sections and kind of replacing it with patriotic gear.
Do you see that this is a phase that is

(38:46):
going to finally work itself out?

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Please? I pray that it does. I have noticed that
here in Utah, the liberals in Utah and the woke Mormons, uh,
they love to fly there, you know, sex flags everywhere,
and this year I have only seen a small handful.
I think the average American, you know, watching Riley Gaines

(39:11):
standing up for women's sports and realizing this has gone
too far. It's been shoved down our throat. So I
actually can't like Smiths. I'm thinking of all the places
I go, I've seen like a few little Pride like
keychangs or something, maybe at Walmart, but I have not
seen there's a salon by me and they usually have

(39:32):
this huge, huge display. It's not there. And I don't
think it's because people are afraid of bigotry. I think
it's because they're just over it. And I just pray
to God that this trans trend of mutilating bodies and
abusing children. It is a sexual abuse to alter their
sex organs and not let them go through puberty. So

(39:54):
I just pray that that will come to an end.
And I kind of feel kind of feel like it is.
I feel like people like me have really you know,
I've had millions of views on a lot of videos
and people have been listening, and like here in Utah,
I got Senate Bill sixteen past which made it illegal.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Lets me, since you brought that up, and since we're
talking about it, let's play that a little clip again.
I can't play the whole thing because we have limited time,
but let's play the first part of that and talk
about that on the other side.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
I'm so fat. Here we go. Let me put on
a lip gloss. It's an honor to exercise my free
speech today. My name is Ryan Woods. I am a
gay drag artist known as the Lady Maga USA. Since childhood,
I've loved dress up barbies, pink and sparkles. Whoever said
the boys who love pink our girls are seriously disturbed.

(40:45):
I still love dolls. I made this all right here.
Children like I was are being drugged, chemically castrated, rendered infertiled, infertile,
and mutilated simply because they atypically love certain toys, colors, activities,
or clothing. Girls like Chloe are being given mess sectomies
for the same reasons. My heart goes out to all
the misfits. I was a bullied child. I understand what

(41:07):
it's like to be different. But medical professionals and organizations
like Planned Parenthood and Equality UTAH rarely publicly explore side
effects such as bomass, infertility, emotional instability, and transition regret.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
And obviously you go on from there.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
And I love seeing Chloe Cole sitting behind you with
a big beaming smile, and you know all you can
do is smile, even though just before we play that
clip you were trying to get it.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
I looked sat there.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Now you're like, girl, But what I was wearing was
very deliberate. The bow, the pink pan, the doll, everything.
I wanted to just throw it out there and be like, look,
you can like these things, you can be weird, but
it doesn't mean you're in the wrong body. It doesn't
mean you can justify any of this transmutilation of children.

(41:59):
So I look like an idiot there, and I'm so
fat because I had just gotten over alcoholism. And that's
that I hate, just hate that clip. But that's one
of my most viral clips because I share the truth,
people can feel the truth. And Chloe col you know,
she was told that she was a boy, so I
knew she was going to be there. We presented the
bill that did pass, and I gave her a compact

(42:23):
and a lip gloss and just girly things. I said,
you know, Chloe, you're a beautiful girl and it's okay
to embrace all of this and you're fabulous. And that girl,
she carries such a heavy burden having to be the
face of this movement, and she's so so, such an
honor to be part of that presentation committee. And again

(42:45):
you can hate that I do drag, but why did
they choose me to be the person talking to convince
those legislators of our message? You know, if you just
have your average supporter with the beard, they're not going
to really pay attention. I make people think, does that
make sense?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yes, of course, And that's what I love about you
is that you do make people think, and you do
it so courageously and bravely, and you.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Know, I love that you give that reminder. You know,
these stereotypes.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I remember I was in show choir when I was
in high school, and we would get in these long
conversation this is why we're friends because of course, of
course I was a show choir.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
You love shows. I'm like, oh my gosh, we are
like so so like. But yeah, I was in a
long conversation with one of my show choir meets.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
And and I I guess I was an early reporter
because these were long bus rides to perform. And I
was like, so, you know, when did you decide that
you were gay? We have these like deep conversations and
and he was like, well, I you know, I just
always like girly things, and just everybody was telling me
over and over again, oh, you must be gay, you
must be gay gay. And that was tragic because maybe

(43:59):
he is, maybe it still is gay, but just the
fact that he never even questioned it until people labeled
them as that, Like, I thought that that was sad,
and like, how did we get to this point to
where like guys can only like certain things and girls
can only like certain things. And then yeah, and now
we've taken it to the extreme of then if you
like those things, you must be in the wrong body.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I mean, like, this is crazy.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Yeah, they're transing the gay kids. I think I was
born that way. I honestly, my earliest feelings everything has
been gay as a picnic basket. But now they're transing.
They're transing gay kids. Like any sign of twelve year
old boy who's like, I think I might be gay,
They're like, no, you're a girl. And so there is

(44:45):
the grooming epidemic for young people. I grew up mormone,
and I didn't think about sexuality anything till after my
Mormon mission in my twenties, because I was so busy
in Scouts, being an Eagle Scout, church activities, school plays,
show choir, student council, honor society, and so your focus

(45:10):
as a young person should not be sexuality. It shouldn't.
I was so busy and just living my best life
and following, you know, the religious principles that I was
raced with, and so I didn't even worry about it
or obsess over it or think about it, and I
was happy I had a great adolescence. Of course I

(45:31):
had to face the music later on in life. But
this idea that we should be discussing sexuality and encouraging
like the books that you know that we testified here
in utahught To to get out of the libraries are
literally pornographic and they'refore fourth graders. So this is satanic,

(45:51):
it's evil, it's pedophilic, it's abusive. And that's why I
I I'm really tired of all, Paul, I'm real least
sick of it, but I do speak out still because
this is this is God's work. And yeah, I'm flawed,
Yeah maybe I'm not in typical mold, but I know
that protecting kids matters. And I have fifty four nieces

(46:16):
and nephews, huge, huge family, not polygamist, but huge, and
I do this. I do this for them.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
I worry about and it's so beautiful that you do.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
And I want to make sure that we cover this
topic and the little bit of time that we have left.
So you have been a staunch Trump supporter, You've been
Lady Maga USA, but as of recently there's been a
huge Maga divide and it's like it's just now it's
a sin to question our president.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
So what are your thoughts there?

Speaker 4 (46:53):
Well, from the beginning, I've always said, I'm lady Maga.
I'm not Lady Trump. Lady important, but I'm not I'm
not Lady Trump USA. Trump is the leader, He's the
one who created this great Maga awakening. But the principles
of Maga have nothing to do with Donald Trump himself.

(47:16):
And he always said that they're not after me, They're
after you. And so when I think of MAGA, I
do think of Trump, but I think of the thousands
of people I've met across this country at the rallies.
I think of the you know, mega hippies and just
wonderful people that I've met. And so it's about us.

(47:36):
And I don't know who is surrounding Donald Trump. I
don't trust trust Caspertel, Dan Borngino, I uh Pam BONDI
and this and this leader who said America is the
greatest country on earth next to Israel. You what? And
also I am a critic of Netan Yahoo. He lied

(47:59):
to us and said they're weapons of mass destruction in
Iraq and all of these useless, endless wars that yes,
net and Yah who wanted have led to thirty thousand
military suicides for what? For what? Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq?

Speaker 3 (48:20):
What?

Speaker 4 (48:21):
None of it was. No American blood should have been shed,
not to mention that thousands of people who have massive
injuries and paralysis and all other things. So I am
anti war, and I believe that Trump at his core
is anti war. But bombing Iran after over thirty years

(48:43):
of being told their threat of their nukes is imminent
because Netanyah who wanted it, and by the way, netan
Yah who started it and bombed them, and we paid
for it. So see what I mean, Like America first
means America first. And I know people worship and love

(49:04):
Israel and that's cool, but loving the Israeli government is
different than loving the people of Israel or Jewish people
in general. It's like if I but they've made it
so that if you critique the Israeli government, you're immediately
attacked as if you're a Jew hater. You know, you're

(49:24):
an anti Semite. And it's like what if you said
you hated the Biden administration and you didn't like, does
that mean you hate all Americans? Of course not. So
it's just this really tricky game, and people have been
backfiring at me. The Trump cult is real. I always
said it wasn't. I'm like, no, that's whatever. It's real.

(49:46):
People are willing to never criticize a political leader who
has power over our lives. Our job is to be
vigilant citizens and const critique, scrutinize, and be skeptical of
every single thing any government person does, including Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
So I have and I would argue, just to add
on to that sentiment real quick, I would argue that
if you are a Trump supporter, it's even more important
for you to be willing to be critical, because I
do think that Trump listens and responds.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
I see evidence of that, like he'll change.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Course sometimes, and so I think if you're trying to
watch out for him, if you're a Trump supporter, then
you will be critical. You will be allow your voice
to be heard, not for the sake of being edgy
or you know, getting clicks or whatever, but for the
sake of America, for the sake of supporting him to
be the best leader that he can be.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I don't think that requires blind worship.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
I think it requires us to be willing to be critical.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
And I'm grateful for Donald Trump. You know he's he
really is wonderful. He transformed my hopes for America. But
I will militantly hold him to his word because when
we voted for him, the MAGA people, we sent it
very very clear and concise and indisputable mandate. And my

(51:22):
number one mandate was no foreign wars. And the second
mandate was no more foreign aid, no more wasting it
and that does include Israel. And number three, mass deportations,
not just haphazard criminals being deported and then putting it
on Twitter. Mass deportations. We have illegals who are dependent

(51:47):
on our tax dollars. We have cartels, human trafficking, and
it's just unfair. That being said, I will say, I
don't blame the illegals. I blame their employers. We are
the enablers. So what do we expect. You know, they
need to go after people who who live off the
backs of illegals, and I have many conservative friends who

(52:10):
do as well. So you got to call out the hypocrisy.
And I do believe that it should be illegal to
hire illegals and you should be prosecuted if you are
benefiting off of the backs of illegal who are here
and incentivized to be here, you know, So if you
cut off all the free like they just have to
go to an emergency room anytime they have a cold, free,

(52:33):
you know, they're bankrupting hospitals. They get all the benefits,
free education, free you know, ebt, housing, everything, especially here
in Utah we give illegals driver pass licenses. What So, anyway,
if you took away all those incentives, and you took
away all those endless benefits, they would not come anymore.

(52:53):
They'd be like, no value is not paying that, you know,
it's not worth it anymore. Exactly Again, so.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
I could talk to you, So I have to cut
it somewhere. But thank you so much, thank you for
your courage.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
As always, I really encourage you to follow at Lady
Maga USA and support him any way that you can.
He is a fierce warrior, not just thinking and praying
about things, but actually getting out there and doing things
to protect our children and do what's best for America.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
So Ryan, thank you so much, keep up the good fight.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
Thank you Christy. You're always in my thoughts and prayers
and I just I just admire you. And once again,
it was just a total and complete honor to be
here today.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Honor is all mine. Thank you so much, Ryan, all right,
gotta wrap this up.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
I just want to remind you please support this show,
support hearing from voices that you don't get to hear
from that are really powerful, like Ryan's by going to
my pillow dot com use promo code at k L
and I want to you picked the scripture of the
day Matthew seven three through five. Why do you look
at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and
paid no attention to the.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Plank in your own eye?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
How can you say to your brother, let me take
the speck out of your eye, when all the time
there is a plank in your own eye, You hypocrite.
First take the plank out of your own eye, and
then you will see clearly to remove this back from
your brother's eye. This can be applied to the LGBTQ
mafia in their hypocrisy continue to hypocrisy, But it can
also be applied to anyone upset.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
With me that I spoke to someone like Ryan today.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
I just want to remind you, you know, I'm a
divorced woman, and that's not biblically God's best for my life,
but God gave me grace and allowed me to find
a wonderful Christian man get remarried. And so I apply
that same logic to my friend Ryan. You know, might
not be God's best for him, but he is still

(54:52):
being used as a tool for Christ in my opinion.
So thank you for watching. Remember the greatest commandment is love.
Out Giffree on Christie Lee on Tuesdays. Here, I'm Lindel TV.
Thank you for watching.

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