A Guide to Edging-S05E08

Recorded: July 2, 2023 / Published: August 10, 2023

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• - In this episode, we are talking about one of my favorite things-edging.
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1. - “A Guide to Edging-S05E08”
   • Delayed gratification: Building up to orgasm and repeatedly backing off builds up the physical, mental, and emotional anticipation typically resulting in harder, longer, and more fulfilling orgasms.
   • Control: It is very common in BDSM play for the Dom(me) to deny or edge a submissive. Denial of a basic animalistic urge can be an extremely intoxicating type of control
   • Awareness: Edging tends to make people more self-aware of their bodies and minds involving their orgasmic state and how things like breathing and internal thoughts add to or take away from their orgasms. They can then apply that knowledge to other sexual experiences when not edging to provide similar results.
   • According to Anne Russo, LCSW, “edging involves building up to orgasm and then slowing down or taking breaks before you or your partner reach climax. The process, sometimes called “surfing” or “peaking,” can increase blood flow to the genitals to enhance arousal. This can create a lot of sexual tension and excitement, which can lead to a really intense and pleasurable orgasm. It’s like a rollercoaster ride for your body.”
   • The prolonged release of dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, testosterone, and estrogen can provide a much deeper and longer-lasting euphoric state.
   • Addiction: due to the release of neurotransmitters and hormones it is an easily addictive behavior.
   • Loss of orgasm: This can happen once (common), often (common), or permanently (rare). There is a fine line between an edging, a denied, and a ruined orgasm. Many people if edged too long can become so mentally frustrated that it gets in the way of the physical release.
   • Some people start requiring longer and longer “rollercoaster rides” to get the same level of chemical release. If this is constantly being fed, the mind and body will become programmed through classic conditioning and won’t be able to get enough to complete the release. You will easily recognize this happening and you know to take a few weeks or even a few months from all sexual activity to allow for a reset. It’s also advised to seek help from a professional therapist or psychologist who specializes in sexual addictions and dysfunctions.
   • Diminished or loss of genital sensitivity: On average it takes women 20 minutes to climax and men 2-10 minutes. Think about the amount of stimulation that it takes for an hour, two-hour, or ten-hour “rollercoaster ride” of edging! Now, multiply that by the average number of times a person masturbates and has sex a week. I don’t have those figures but that’s got to be a metric shit-ton. The nerves are so sensitive that prolonged, intense stimulation can cause them to dull. This can make it difficult, hard, or even impossible to orgasm.
   • The numbers game: rating the pleasure intensity on a scale from 0-10 and picking numbers or rolling dice for pleasure peaks and valleys.
   • How close can you get? Pushing for the exact edge of climax without going over.
   • Ejaculating without orgasm: Running a man to edge of climax and then removing all stimulation can cause men to ejaculate without the full body orgasm. This often means no loss of erection and further build-ups to finally achieve climax is possible.

• A great article on edging by Tianna Soto: https://stylecaster.com/lifestyle/love-sex/1388127/what-is-edging/
• What is edging? Edging, peaking, or surfing is a sexual technique whereby an orgasm is controlled for the purpose of prolonged pleasure and/or agony, It can be performed alone or with a partner and involves the maintenance of a high level of sexual arousal for an extended period without reaching climax.
• Why?
• How does it work?
• Who’s it for? Everyone, right?!?! Well, no. I haven’t been able to find any statistics I trust so basing it only on my personal experiences, I’d say half or most people have stronger, longer-lasting orgasms from edging, around 20% have mixed results, and 20% have consistently dimi

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my favorite things in both giving andreceiving today, and I know a lot
of d types want to think,oh, well, you know, that
edging is for submissives and blah blahblah, and that's absolutely positively not true.
If I'm telling someone to do it, I'm in charge, and people

(03:12):
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Notes are in the description below thatyou can click on and follow along
if you like, but mayfare.What is edging, edging, peaking,
or surfing is a sexual technique wherebyan orgasm is controlled for the purpose of
prolonged pleasure and or agony. Itcan be performed alone or with a partner,

(05:56):
and involves the maintenance of a highlevel high level of sexual arouse for
an extended period of time without reachingclimax. Yeah, I know that's weird,
but that maintenance part is very important, because you got to the maintenance
part is the additional stimulation. Imy brain wanted to correct it to maintaining.

(06:25):
Yeah, me too, so Ihad to pause and make sure I
was reading it properly. So prettysimple. Most people know what edging is.
A lot of people will will sayedging or I have heard surfing,
not heard peaking used, delayed orgasm. Yeah, it's It's referred to a

(06:57):
lot of different ways, and itcan be incredible, really fun. But
why why would somebody do this?I come up with three basic things.
Delayed gratification, build up to orgasmand repeatedly backing off builds up to physical,
mental, and emotional antissa patient,typically resulting in harder, longer,

(07:23):
and more fulfilling orgasms. And whodoesn't want that? Right? Uh?
Maybe feel free to jump in andadd things to these as we go through
them. You got anything on thatdelayed gratification? I think my comment will
end up falling later, but itdoesn't that this doesn't work that well for

(07:48):
me? Okay? Control? Whywould why would someone do this? For
control? It is very common inb DSM play for the dom or domain
to deny or edge a submissive.Denial of basic of a basic animalistic urge

(08:11):
can be extremely intoxicating type of control. Yes, and that's why it is
as most often thought of as atype of DS play instead of it just
being a sexual play. As faras being on the top side of it,

(08:39):
the control, and I wrote thatit is extremely intoxicating type of control
when you're pushing somebody to that pointand denying it and forcing them on that
roller coaster and you're gonna hear mesay roller coaster a lot, and being

(09:01):
careful not to go too far towhere they can't and reading their body and
listening to their breaths and paying attentionto their words and the vibrations of the
body and just oh it's these area few of my favorite things. So

(09:30):
we've got delayed gratification control mayfair?What's the next? Real quick before we
go? Sure, I think youcovered it in a previous episode where you're
talking about how it's often seen asa dumb sub kind of play. Yes,
I think it was. I thinkit was your your podcast before I

(09:54):
was part of it. It canbe a submissive doing the control under dom's
instructions, Like there are doms whoinstruct their submissives to spank them or uh
peg them or all kinds of differentthings, and those are still submissive acts

(10:15):
that are in controlled by the dom. I kind of wanted to I know
you kind of mentioned that earlier,but I'm pretty sure you did an episode
on it. Yeah, yeah,absolutely, and you're right, it does.
I did quickly touch on that.But it's very important that people do
understand that because it's very much seenas a submissive act to to give up

(10:39):
that type of control. But it'sit's not it and it doesn't it really
doesn't matter anyway, if it's somethingthat somebody enjoys. People get so hung
up on well, you know thisis that's that's what subs do, this
is what doms do. What aboutlike relaxing and just enjoying things that kind

(11:05):
of Mr ken Honk International personal leather. You know, we've I'm pretty sure
it was she and I that hada conversation or well, no, we
didn't have a conversation. We bothlaughed about it. I think it was

(11:28):
the first time that we met.I was worth met her and Percussio and
kind of talking about leather a littlebit and made the comment one two way
when it comes to leather, andthat is not real leather. There is
no one true way, and thosewho are truly leather understand that. And

(11:52):
there's no one true way to doany of this. There are a lot
of ways they're wrong, that areabusive, they're destructive, that are unhealthy,
but there's equally as many ways todo it that the people you don't
do every day that I've never eventhought of and or maybe nobody else has

(12:15):
really ever thought of them, butthat doesn't make them wrong. So yeah,
I'll jump back off that setbox wasnumber three on the Why Awareness Edging
tends to make people more self awareof their bodies and minds involving their orgasmic
state and how things like breathing andinternal thoughts add to or take away from

(12:41):
their orgasms. They can then applythat knowledge to other sexual experiences when not
edging to provide similar results. Sobasically, moved the Michaelo closer when you're
looking over another screen. So basicallythey're learning about yourself becoming more self aware.

(13:07):
Recognizing how you're breathing is at eachstep of arousal. Start writing at
a zero to ten, are yourears burning, as your face burning?
You feel hot in certain areas?Starting to recognize that, and you can
start forcing these things to happen.I've known people who have have been able

(13:33):
to come to climax. Come toclimax. It sounds redundant, but I
didn't mean it that way. Byputting themselves in that mental state and starting
out with breath and just the thoughtof it, reliving the emotions and taking

(13:56):
the breath and that energy into it, and which is a lot of what
tantric sex is about. Uh what'shis name from you two? That not
Bono or maybe his I can't remember. Anyway, you know, he's famous

(14:20):
for having ten hour sex sessions withhis wife and nobody has an orgasm.
We're a physical release anyway, andejaculation whatever. And that's a lot of
what that's about. That awareness,that's that is when you're getting into tantric
sex. That is one of thefirst steps to it. So it's uh,

(14:43):
and there's more too, tantra it'suh. You know, they're combining
the physical with the spiritual and thattype of thing. But yeah, so
any thoughts on that one. Ifyou expect me to think about what's happening,
I'm not going to get anywhere.It's over, it's done, there's
no there's no end, came there. I'm out because if I have to

(15:11):
think, if I can't just shutmy brain up, I'm not getting anywhere.
Yeah, I'm gonna end up countingceiling tiles again, counting ceiling tiles.
If you're new that, Yeah,that that's a long running thing from
Mayfair. It sounds like a terribleexperience. There's only one guy, but

(15:37):
and I gave him three chances,and I counted tiles every time, So
I, oh god, So howdoes this work? Well? According to
Anne Russo, who is a LCSWthat's a licensed clinical social worker specializing in

(15:58):
in UH sex edging excuse me.Edging involves building up to orgasm and then
slowing down or taking breaks before youor your partner can reach climax. The
process, sometimes called surfing or peaking, can increase blood flow to the genitals

(16:22):
to enhance arousal. This can createa lot of sexual tension and excitement,
which can in turn lead to areally intense and pleasurable orgetum. It's like
a roller coaster ride for your body. Absolutely, And why does that work

(16:44):
Because of the prolonged release of dopamine, oxytocin, and serotonin, which are
neurotransmitters, and then you've got thetestosterone and estrogen floods that take place in
both men and women, and itcan provide a much much deeper and longer

(17:06):
lasting euphoric state. You know,dopamine, oxytocin, which is the love
drug, and sarahtonin. So whenyou're riding that roller coaster, you're going
through periods of these chemicals in yourbrain being released and then shutting off and

(17:32):
then shutting or flipping back on andthen shutting off, and it stays in
your body longer so that can bequite awesome. It's uh yeah, anything
on that move heir mhmm, okay, Yeah, that's pretty cut and dry.

(17:56):
So who's it for? Yeah,every one, right man? No,
And I haven't been able to findany statistics that I trust, so
basing it only on my personal experience, people I've talked to, people I've
partners, I've had, I'd saythat half or most people have stronger,

(18:21):
longer lasting orgasms from edging are probablyaround twenty percent have mixed results, and
twenty percent have consistently diminished orgasm experiencesthat can certainly happen. And you said
that this may may not be foryou or isn't really for you. Is

(18:45):
this the point where you were goingto get into that. Yeah. I
mean a lot of times if Iget really close, then no happens.
I'm it's gone, like we're startingback at the beginning, and like at
that point, I'm just kind ofmad about it, Like this isn't fun

(19:07):
anymore. I'm ready to do somethingdifferent. I want to go play a
video game now. Yeah, Like, okay, well you said no,
I'm done by It's kind of howI feel a lot of the times when
it's just and nothing and nothing.Yeah, there are some people who become

(19:33):
violent if you start backing off,even if it's been talked about or well
within the boundaries of the relationship.I have been kicked, bitten, had

(19:55):
my hair pulled, uh, punched. That sounds fun for you, Yeah,
but it wasn't an imprimal like itwas. Well, it was very
primal on her part. She wasmad, very very mad. I think

(20:18):
for me, I think it justit brings me back into reality and I
was off floating in happy space andthen it's like a bucket of cold water,
wake up. Fuck. I canonly remember like once maybe twice that

(20:38):
you didn't get back to that pointthough, But it wasn't really something that
we did a lot. You mightsay, wait for a few seconds,
because it a lot of the timelike I was like, uh whatever after

(21:00):
you know, it's just like Isaid, it's like you're throwing bucket of
reality on my fantasy land and nowI can't get back. I don't know
how to better describe it. I'msure there's a better way. That's perfect.

(21:21):
I think that that's perfect. Andno, it's not that I'm mad.
I'm just like I'm out of themoment. M. Yeah, and
that. Yeah, but I mean, I guess until you orgasms were not
generally a part of regular, normal, every day sex. It wasn't.

(21:44):
It wasn't common. Like I didthat on my own. I just like
the sex I can. I canget the other side off by myself.
I don't. I don't need tohelp for that. Yeah, it u,

(22:08):
Ben says, edging to primal ina flip of the switch. Yeah,
hello, I'll Celia drop it infor a minute. Bad cat.
She mad, Yeah, she wasmad, she was real mad. Going
back to the other conversation on thesoap box, Mr said, there's no
old guard or nude guard as wellin leather. Yeah, leather just is

(22:34):
all right. So no, it'snot for everybody. And there's several reasons
why. Uh. The first onethat I come up with mayfair addiction.
Due to the release of neurotransmitters andhormones, it's easily addictive behavior MM,

(22:59):
very easily. In fact, it'sone of the reasons why for a long
time I've had great difficulty in climax. Quite often when it comes to sex.

(23:22):
I enjoy this X part. Idon't finish just a thing I have
been and I'll get into why thatis here in in just a moment.
Another big reason is a loss oforgasm. This can happen once which is
common, often which is common,or permanently, which is rare. But

(23:48):
there is a fine line between anedging, a denial, and a ruined
orgasm. Many people, if edgedtoo long, can become so mentally frustrated
that it gets in the way ofthe physical release. You know, when
you're taking up and down on thisroller coaster and we're told no and then

(24:15):
hands off, and the sensation completelyjust drops down from that nine about to
push over the edge to the tenand explosions happen and you dropped down to
to negative negative ten because you're pissedoff. Uh yeah, definitely can see

(24:38):
problems there. Brought back to reality, Yeah, back to reality. Oh
damn. Some people start requiring longerand longer roller coaster rides. I can
have an addictive personality to some things, and this was the case for me

(25:02):
to get to the same level ofchemical release, so you know, I
was I would edge myself longer andlonger, and these chemical releases become very
addictive, and like I wrote here, if this is a constant If this

(25:26):
is constantly being fed the chemical addiction, the mind and body will become programmed
through classical conditioning Pavlov's dogs and won'tbe able to get enough of said chemicals
to complete the release. You willeasily recognize this happening, and you know

(25:49):
to take a few weeks or evena few months off from all sexual activity
to allow for a reset. It'salso advised to seek help from a professional
therapist or psychologist who specializes in sexualaddictions and dysfunctions. Then, I can't

(26:11):
stress that enough. Like it,it is an addiction, and it is
something that is really helpful to talkto somebody about it, whether it be
like the LCSW that we mentioned earlier, the licensed social clinical worker who specializes
a sex therapist, a psychologist.Remember, a psychologist is a PhD someone

(26:37):
who's focused in psychology. A psychiatristis a medical doctor who focused in the
brain as far as how the brainrelates to a person's psychology. So the
brain chemistry and how it relates toa person's personality and behaviors. So very

(27:04):
important to remember that, all right, and then we get into the last
one, which really becomes an issue, and go ahead with that mayfair disminished,
disdiminished, diminished, or loss ofgenital sensitivity. On average, it

(27:30):
takes women twenty minutes to climax andmen two to ten minutes. Think about
the amount of simulation that it takesfor an hour, two hour, or
even ten hour roller coaster ride ofedging. Now multiply that by the average
number of times a person masterbates andhas sex in a week. I don't

(27:51):
have those figures, but that's gotto be a metric shit ton. The
nerves are so sensitive that prolonged intensestimulation can cause them to dull. This
can be difficult, This can makeit difficult, hard, or even impossible
to orgasm. So it's the samething as fighters. When I was a

(28:11):
teenager, I took taichi and tostrengthen our forearms and our shins kneecaps.
We started out with those padded practicenunchucks and we would just beat the hell
out of our shins and forearms,elbows, ribs. Other people beat just

(28:37):
across the back, or we beateach other across the back with them.
And after doing that for a monthor two then or I think it was
a month, you know, severaltimes a week, then we would we
moved up to using bamboo after bamboowent to some other wood I don't remember

(29:03):
what it was, some other typeof wood that was harder than the bamboo.
And then from there which I nevergot to, it was metal and
just strengthening building those calcium deposits.What was the same thing with your with
your genitals, over stimulation and frequentover stimulation will dull out all those wild

(29:30):
nerve endings that are so close tothe surface of the skin, and yeah,
it will create issues for being ableto even feel they can in manic

(29:51):
can not just prevent orgasm, butit can get to the point where you
have difficulty with an erection because youcan't fill the sensitivity and or you won't
you won't even know if you havean erection or not, which sounds really
weird. But it can be athing like you can be having sex and

(30:18):
have to like look down to seeif you're still hard because you can't feel
it, and you don't know ifyou're psychologically turned on enough to still have
an erection. It's a weird,weird, weird sensation. Yes, I
have experienced this before. Go ahead, ma, fair, you look like
you had something to say I no, I was just imagining, trying to

(30:45):
imagine what knowing you have an directionfeels like. It feels like like I
don't know, like as a female, I don't, I can't, I
don't know. I was trying tofigure out what that sensation would be,
but I don't have no real contextthere. So that was the you can

(31:07):
you can, well, you can't. A man can fill their bulge like
it's it's weird to explain it.That's where my mind went. How you
can, how you feel it,how you know? But when you know
when you're having sex, you're gettingjerked off or a blow job or something,

(31:29):
and you don't have any feeling allof a sudden good or bad or
whatever, and it's it's bizarre.It'll freak you out. If you never
heard of it, knew that itcould happen, or experienced it. Guys
in the chat, speak up,have you ever experienced that before? I

(31:52):
know, I'm I've talked to otherguys about this. I'm not the only
person. I mean, one ofmy toes going if I drive for a
long time and that feels really weird, But I don't I don't know that
that that would be the same feeling. No, it's not, it's not.
It's not like it's fallen asleep kindof tingling kind of thing. It's

(32:14):
not. It just feels like it'snot there, like my window. I
have to look because I'm like,did it what happened? Well in that
case, because yeah, that's kindof what Yeah, where did it go?
Ben says definitely. Yeah, thanksfor backing me up. I owe
you one. Ben, all right, So yeah, this diminished loss of

(32:40):
general genital sense of sensitivity, Ican definitely be a bad thing. Huh,
I said, you wrote the tonguetwisters in here, right, and
and with women, I mean,mayfair, have you ever just law sensitivity?

(33:01):
No, it just gets to thepoint where things feel like you're tattooing,
where it just hurts. It hurtslike it it isn't. That's the
most common compliant I've heard with women, as it gets to a point where
it just freaking hurts. Yeah,like it. Honestly, I think one
of the more recent times that wehad done anything. You have a tendency

(33:27):
to like my toys, Yes,I do, and it, honestly,
I it feeled exactly like a tattoogun on on my private bits and I
was like, nope. I've alsoheard it explained as a beasting, like

(33:50):
it feels like a bee keep stingingmy clip. I've heard that said before.
So yeah, it can become extremelypainful, and I've heard men that
have experienced that in the frenulum.The so you got your little mushroom there,
it's this area right here, that'swhere the center of the nerves are

(34:15):
is right in there, in thesoft spot right below the ring if you're
circumcised, or where the foreskin connectsto the shaft if you're not, And
it can feel like it's truth.Who it was, it doesn't matter,

(34:39):
but as a friend or maybe mybrother called me. It was. My
brother called me one time and askhim about a UTI back when I was
working medical and so, well,you know, what was you doing?
And he was kind of humming aboutthings, and finally he said, well,
you know, I was being edgedand it felt like her. I

(35:02):
was having sex for really for liketwo hours, and it got to the
point where it felt like there wasa needle going through right below the head
on the ground side of my penis, and I'm like, okay, well,
if it was a UTI, thatwould have been from you. Would

(35:22):
have felt that way if you're apeen, more than likely, and so
don't worry about you know. He'slike, well, I went and pete
afterward and it was fine. Okay, Yeah, so I could have made
you like that hot needle poking throughkind of sensation, which you know,
if you're into CBT, that mightbe a cool thing. Not me,

(35:44):
in apparently not him. So thingsI wish I didn't know about my family,
yes, go ahead, Nope,I don't want to talk about it
inappropriate sexual things you know about yourfamily? Right on? So her comment

(36:09):
actually think starts appear. Oh okay, sorry, isn't the click like an
m R says, isn't the clicklike a penis? It's like, you
know, you are aroused, andyou can feel it from the way it
rubs your panties, But after sometime of it rubbing with no happy ending,

(36:32):
it becomes annoying. Then when youget home to masturbate, you can't
get aroused in the same way beforethe same way as before because you're numb.
Yeah yeah, good comparison can alwayscount on MR and the rest of

(36:52):
the third co hosts very good mayfer, can you relate to what she said?
No, mh one. I generallydon't wear panties, nothing there,
but I don't when I know I'mlike, I know, I'm horny or

(37:20):
whatever wanting sex. It's not afeeling. I think that comes from my
clip. I feel it more inside, but that goes back to you.
I don't like my clip to beplayed with very much. It just don't
touch it. I don't like it. Leave it alone. I have a

(37:43):
hole there for a reason, andI like it bunch better. Let's see,
this is vibrating toys on the clipmake me numb over time. Yeah,
I think I'm like a very rareindividual. Most women for clatoral stimulation
oraginal sex, and I amposite m. Yeah. Most can only orgasm through

(38:12):
uh clatural stimulation. Which it's funnyand one of my wife's uh she's a
therapist. One of her psychology books, it says that only our uh of
physiologic oh gods left me physio psychologies, psychophysiology something like that. It says

(38:38):
that only ten percent of women actuallyhave G spots, Like the myth of
the G spot is such a thing, but an actual G spot, yes,
women, The way that the nerveendings in the channel for that comes

(38:58):
from the clip comes down in inninety percent of women, doesn't actually come
close enough to the wall to beconsidered a true G spot. It does
come down and you do feel thatstimulation. So it is possible technically that
way for all women to orgasm throughpenetration, but it's much more difficult for

(39:27):
some women. And you know,again that's just according to that book.
It's and it's a new book,so I don't know what. So it
can be mythical G spot, yes, the female orgasm. No, that's
not a myth as was believed formillennia apparently. So all right, let's

(39:54):
get into how we haven't talked abouthow yet? How do you do edge
play? Easy? First, ifdoing this with a partner, talk about
it thoroughly and openly. Make sureeveryone is on board, consent is agreed
upon, and an easy safe wordsystem is known. Bring yourself or your

(40:20):
partner to the brink of orgasm andslow down, stop, or move the
focal point of the stimulation to anotherpart of the body. Do this as
many times as desired or until asafe word is called. Be sure to
talk about what the safe word means. Doesn't mean all sexual contact must stop.
Is it a way to say Ican't take it anymore, I need

(40:43):
to come now, or does itindicate a need to check in and see
which one the person wants. Ipersonally prefer using yellow, which means check
in with me, May I pleasecome? Sir tells me she's had enough
and wants to be finished off,and red means all activity stops, as

(41:06):
RED always does. In addition tothat, if RED is called, then
a check on their physical, mental, and emotional safety. Provide any medical
attention, support, food, drinkor space needed. That's one that often
gets forgotten. Sometimes people want towalk away when they call RED. They

(41:34):
need space. They need to processsomething. You don't know what has happened.
They may have hit a landmine andsomething has come back to them,
some former trauma or something that theymay have not remembered. They may have
thought blocking or whatever, and theyneed space after that. After you've done

(42:00):
these things provided medical tension support,food, drink or space and or space,
then you know that's the starting ofentering into aftercare. It's not time
for twenty questions of why'd you callred? Or taking it personal or getting
pissed off. They will get tothat, I promise the ninety nine point

(42:24):
nine percent of time they'll get tothat. But it's time to make sure
that your partner feels safe and issafe. That's the main focus. So
it's really it's really easy how todo this a conversation, the action and

(42:45):
after care. Mayfair thoughts, Ithink you've covered that really well, Megan
Morgan, Hi, good to seeyou, Hey, Lily, Well,

(43:08):
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(47:57):
text malfunction? Okay that one?You're one of the twenty percent who can
organism through penetration. Most women canonly do it by their click yeah yeah,
and some who uh I know oneperson particularly, I'm not going to

(48:21):
call her out, but she sheat one time didn't have a problem with
it, and then become addicted tothe toys and so she can't orgasm through
penetration anymore, only with toys,so that can happen as well. So
all right, so let's let's talkabout some games. Then numbers game,

(48:45):
So basically you rate pleasure intensity ona scale a zero to ten, and
and then numbers are picked. Sowe'll flip this around. Instead of saying
Mayfair's picking numbers are being edged,I'll be edged. So if well,

(49:08):
if we had two six sided dice, then we would use zero or one
to twelve, whatever, zero totwelve, or maybe you rode to eleven
and twelve if we're old, twelvethat a bu zero. So anyway,

(49:29):
things that get started, and thenat some point some some dice would be
rolled, and it would be upto me and my little honest self to
say when that when whatever speed wasgoing reached whatever particular U in pleasure intensity.
You know, and it's not anexact science of course you're just rating

(49:52):
it, you know, I don'tknow if I'm I'm about to popped and
it's gonna be up there, it'sgonna be you know, eight nine.
If it's like you know, thisis nice? Yeah, if I can
say, oh, yeah, thisis nice, then weren't probably around of
five? Not that I would becausethat's such a seventies point star thing to
say hello. But it can bea really fun game. If you're into

(50:16):
games in the bedroom, how closecan you get? Well? First off,
mayfair, what do you think aboutthe numbers game? Now we never
played any of these games, Butwhat do you think about that? You
think that could be fun or justirritating? I would say irritating. Yeah,
I'm I'm not a huge fan ofthis particular play. I'm just not

(50:45):
for you. It'd be more likerolling than dust to see how many times
you could get off? Not what'sthe pleasure intensity on a scale from the
road to ten. I'm I'm aweird one when it comes to these things.

(51:05):
Oh, there's no such thing.That's what I've learned. There's no
such thing. I know many manywomen who are one and done, many
who are you know, two anddone and then as I was a woman
done, somebody had to flick thatup. Oh did I break you?

(51:37):
Yes? And then I know manywho are you know, five ten twenty
in a session and they want tobe absolutely completely exhausted and to the point

(51:57):
of passing out and their whole bodyjust quivering. You know, it's there
is no weird, So you can'tsay that you're weird when it comes to
these things. You wouldn't judge somebodyelse that way. Don't judge yourself that

(52:20):
way. Oh I know, believeme. We're all our own worst critics.
So then there's how close can youget? No, I don't have
quippy little names for these, butpushing for the exact edge of climax without
going over before you drop off.So it's like climb the hill and then

(52:44):
instead of topping it and throwing yourarms up the air and taking the ride
down, no no, no,you're falling down backwards. You're going back
where you came from, and thenclimb the hill and drop back down.
Climb the hill, drop back down, and then eventually go over the top.

(53:07):
This is this is an interesting one. Ejaculating without an orgasm, running
a man to the edge of climaxand then removing all stimulation. Can if
a man is controlled enough, youcan ejaculate without having the orgasm, that

(53:30):
full body orgasm. It's a combinationof muscle control and pushing and not you
know, or focusing and not allowingyourself to have that full body orgasm.

(53:52):
And it often means no loss oferection because you have an orgasm. You've
ejaculated, but you haven't orgasm,and further build up to finally achieve climax
as possible this song I've done liketo the point where there was nothing left

(54:15):
to ejaculate. And yeah, itcan be so incredibly intense, intense and
talk about addictive behavior, insane,absolutely crazy. But yeah, those are

(54:37):
the three, the three fun thingsthat I thought of. I'm sure that
people in chat can think of afew more. Care to share them.
Feel free? Hey fair, youhave anything? Hm m hmm okay,

(55:00):
Ben says, been there and itis. Yeah, Yeah, it's absolutely
amazing that I never will forget.The first time it happened, it was
it was kind of freaked out because, like I was young, I was
watching probably one of the first pornsI'd ever seen. I was rubbing one

(55:21):
out and I just to be honest, I wasn't really ready to finish myself
off, and I just stopped becauseI knew that I was about to pop,
and I just like stopped, tookmy hands off, and it was
so hard to keep my muscles fromcontracting in that general area that causes the

(55:47):
ejaculation, and pretty much it justlike kind of ran out. But because
I was in such control of themuscle, and I was very athletic back
then still I'm kind of now,but and I was so focused on that

(56:12):
it took all of the mental liketurn on and focused it into two trying
to stop myself from getting off.And I was like, oh okay,
but I didn't feel like booh,you know, I didn't feel the things.
And so I had to start itback up. And I'm like,

(56:35):
oh, okay, I don't haveto get the engine reven it's already revved.
But it was it was kind oflike starting over again, only starting
out at like level four or fiveinstead of back at zero. And instead
of the finish being at level ten, it was more like level twenty that

(56:58):
I didn't even know it existed.It was freaking cool. It was a
hidden level. Yeah, there wasa hidden level. Do Do Do Do
Do Do Do Super Mario World,Do Do Do Do Do? Uh business

(57:19):
my game. It starts with shortedging approximately twenty thirty minutes. Then overstimulated
and try to turn it into acontinuous orgasm until she taps out. Nice,
nice start with short edging and thenbuild up, build up and try

(57:39):
to like edge and I edged andI but not yeah, and then just
back to back to back to back. That sounds fun. Love it all
right? Well, uh, nothingelse is coming in, so, uh

(58:02):
what is it? Red and Black? Is that the name of that movie
Red and Black Heist or something?Yeah, Red and Black heist movie.
I will be we will be interviewing, excuse me, next Sunday or Sunday
after next. So what I saidwas at the sixteen bueler bueler from Red

(58:32):
and Black erotic heist movie. Andit's a low budget. They've got the
I can't put it. I can'tput the link in the chat I'll be
giving. They've got an indie GoGo. So if you go to indie
Go Go and search black and Redyou are Red and Black, you'll probably

(58:55):
be able to find it. Butit's it's a low budget Thomas Crown a
fair meets Oceans eleven. Now yousee me loving Alicia's kind of thing.

(59:20):
They do have intimacy coordinators everybody involvedas part of the or participate in BDSM,
and I know Bueller as part ofthe Nevada scene, So yeah,

(59:42):
we'll be talking to them. Iknow Dan and Down from Erotic Awakening podcast.
They were just on their show,just released that episode, so I
highly recommend checking it out. Itsounds like it's going to be really fun.
Really, I mean it it islow budget, but they're focusing on

(01:00:02):
fun. It's a heist movie thatis accented with a film fatale, dominatrix,
mastermind, heistress, so it's notgonna be like a Hollywood production quality,

(01:00:23):
you know, big budget production.I think they're looking for about two
hundred thousand dollars. So I'm goingto donate a good bit and maybe send
him a sizzle real and see ifI can't be in the in the movie.
Uh, Dan and don They theytalk about that in the show briefly

(01:00:45):
at the beginning of this last episodethat they posted for those that don't know,
they were in a auto accident andtotaled their camper that they were traveling
in the country, living out ofthey I mean, they're back, they're
doing the show, so they're they'reall right. Bad cat says, I

(01:01:06):
need an intimacy coordinator. I chargedby the hour for that. We could
set that up. So it's funnythat you bring intimacy coordinator up. It
was just a one of the buzzfeld articles I read this week about how
Game of Thrones didn't have an intimacycoordinator. Well, it wasn't even a

(01:01:28):
thing until like twenty seventeen or twentynineteen. It wasn't It wasn't a thing
in Hollywood, like they said that. Basically, at the end of all
the sex scenes, they just leftthe girl who played de Niris just naked
and standing in the middle of thescript the set. Everybody just left her
there. Well, and Jason Mamowas threatened to beat someone up if they

(01:01:50):
didn't at least have her robe ready. After that she had rope. That
didn't surprise me. He just seemslike a straight up good dude, Like
I don't know, but he playsan amazing psychopath. I'm sure, yeah,
fast, and I highly recommend it. Yeah, I need to watch
that. I mean I know youyou just think he sex as hell,

(01:02:14):
but I he's this kind of guy. Watching him I learn how to use
a whip. Oh he was tryingto teach or teaching James Cordon how to
use a whip. He just seemslike somebody be fun to sit down and
have a bourbon with. I don'tknow. But anyway, enough about that.

(01:02:40):
Yeah, it's a short show.So yeah, we we got the
facts out there where we're in andout today and that's gonna wrap us up.
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