Professional BDSM Domination Mistress Mia Darque-S05E21

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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to mydungeon. Welcome to Caldron's Crypt. I'm
your host, Master Caldron. Ifyou're to the show, we are combined
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four zero zero five, or visitthe Crypt at caldronscript dot com. In
this episode, we are talking toOklahoma's own six foot three inch of any
Amazon and professional dom mistress Mia Dark, and we are going to bring We

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are also talking to the Fetish Artist. You have heard a lot about the
Fetish Artist, a longtime supporter ofthe show, a great person and someone
I consider a friend, is goingto be on with this as well.
So before we get to them,let me say hello to co host Mayfair.
Hi, Hello, how goes it? So? Lit? Cold?

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Yeah? It's high have thirty onedegrees here in East Tennessee today. All
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I normally do. Hit the rulesof love by and then we've got two
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And rule number three that quote frommister Paul Young. Submission is not

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about authority and it is not aboutobedience. It is all about relationships of
love and respect. All right.So yes, the third co host,
Oh yes, while you're at it, thank you. I do have to
say hello to the chat room,the third co host of the show.

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Right now, we got bad Cat, Cairo, Tara and Boots. Hello,
Boots coming in. Got a lotmore people here. If you're in
the chat go ahead and say hello. There's percussio. All right, thank
you guys for showing up, andhave your questions ready, go ahead,
and you can go ahead and throwthem in there, and Mayfair does a

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good job at keeping track of them. And now we have to welcome up
on the stage, Mistress me adark and fetish artist. Hello, hello,
good, Oh yeah, it's wellwow, okay, just at noon
out there, Isn't it all rightto introduce you and your website? Just

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sayred dot com. I cannot puta link to it on YouTube. I
had it in there and then Itake it out. Now I'm too dirty
for the nice, kind clean folks, so read YouTube. It's perfectly fine
that that is exactly what I feelthat that your site is more than perfectly

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fine. It's it's very well doneand lovely. But just sayred dot com
if you're interested in Mistress Mia andwhat all we we are talking about here
today and services that kind of thing. But we do stick more to education,
so I definitely have some stuff afterthe fun little get to know you

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questions like how long have you beenaround? Forever? It feels like forever.
This is officially going to be ifI can count correctly, the twenty
fifth, twenty fourth, going intothe twenty fifth year. Wow, yeah,
so you were around back when itwas all chat rooms and articles in
the backs of paper magazines and ohmy gosh, I you know, when

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you're trying not to date yourself,but you totally end updating yourself. It
was pudding packs. It still camein metal cups. If you wanted to
be filthy. You were at thevery back of the newspaper and the classifieds.
Every city had, every major cityhad their own little dirty book is
what we called it up in Clevelandwhen I was a little girl, which

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was all the looking for love andpeople who do certain things of a certain
nature for certain amounts of money andwhatnots. I still remember sending in money
orders to back Page. So thereyou goo, lord, I forgot about

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doing that. Just take you backsomething men'tory. Oh wow, memories.
So did you did you come inuh on a personal side, lifestyle side

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or was it like pro side orI came in on a I didn't know
what I was doing, but Ithought the people that were doing it was
cool. It's all fucking get out. It was all shiny, and I
was coming from Mississippi. It's Mississippi. Mm hm. Anything on the other
side that there, Mason, Dixieline is a lot bit different. So,

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like this was the equivalent of gettingto stay up late at night while
your parents were asleep and watching anythingon skin Max. I always had to
watch it through all the screen read. Yeah, it's supposed to be fluzzed
out. You can only enjoy itif somebody decided to, I don't know,

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order boxing and then they had twoextra days and you were like,
hey, I wonder what a Manueland friends are doing. Was like we
had the same childhood. Went onthe back of the cable box. It
allowed you to have the premium channels. Yes, as a kid, I

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wasn't allowed to use it, soI'd have to like listen for mom to
be coming home because she worked secondshift, and like unscrew it real quick
and like put it back in thistidi hole before she got in the door.
Yeah, oh my favorite thing.Uh. I know this is gonna
sound a little off, but Ican remember. It was the first time
that I ever got to see anime. And it was an anime back then.

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It was Japan animation, Yes,yes, and you would see a
little and men in the beginning,and we follow up with a little softcore
porn and you just muster yourself offto wherever the hell you were going to
sleep. At my case, Iwas bad about making a palette on the
floor wherever the television that was inif you can find it. O Jinky

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Clinic is now. There was aseries and then there is a couple of
feature you know films that they runabout an hour and fifteen minutes apiece.
But the the movies are much betterthan the series was. But it is
phenomenal. I love it anyway,I do it. Collapse in you Okay,

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over there, catman. I've seenthe comics, the comics or who
I find I still love the onewhere the kinky couple comes in and it's
like they're they're they've they've done everything. Everything's away. We tried bondage.
It's like we're worship worth Shibari experts. Have you tried this? Have you

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tried that? Have you tried swinging? Have you do yep? Yep,
yep, Yeah, it's finally.The most kinky thing they can do is
missionary. We haven't done that yetor it's been ages. Oh my missionary?
Who by? I bet Boots inthe chats geeking out right now?
So he's a Boots is a massiveanime fan. To hold on a second,

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is that my boots? That wouldbe from Whipping Stripes? Yess yes,
Boots brother from an adopted mother thatwe both have so much. April
is mom. Yeah that's a bigold compliment because I've only had one mom

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and she absolutely let me know itevery day that she was alive. But
yeah, Boots and April and actuallythings to tell on this little story of
this, like, oh, Igood to know you. April from Whipping
Stripes was my very first sponsored gigof doing photography. I bought some of

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her whips. They were beautiful,and I was like, oh, check
this out. I had a photoshoot and I was like, look at
these awesome pictures I took with yourwhips. And she was like, hey,
can I use some of those onthe website? And that was my
first time being someone's model. Iwas so oh man, I was falling
over myself. I was so happy. I was like, somebody would e
mean? And if you're interested inany of those products. There is a

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link for Whipping Stripes down below bestGear, best Gear for beginners, for
intermediates, for like knowledgeable over thetop people like that's a that's a hard
working woman. I don't get.Nobody said, yeah she she makes all
of my custom stuff that I don'tmake myself, which is anything leather.

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I don't tool leather. I'll makeall the paddles and toys. But yeah,
all right, so fetish ours realquick. How long have you been
around? Oh goodness. I firststarted getting involved. I would say about
nineteen ninety three ish, I don'twant to crow thirty years, but yeah,

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that's when I kind of started dippingmy toes in the water, so
to speak. And like I metsome people through science fiction conventions and junior
college and this was the San Franciscoscene in the nineties, and it was

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like one thing led to another.I was working over at QSM bookstore,
at the q Stancer Quality you cancall it, sir or ma'am. That
was the thing. It's like Irealized that this was you know, it
wasn't just that I liked being kinky. It was like, this is what
I liked to do and be involvedwith. So I wound up working over

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at Fantasy Makers. I was likethere, the way I've called I was
their first paid houseboy. But essentiallywhat had happened was their housekeeper had gone
on to college and it was like, Okay, well the position's open,
Jada's cleaning. Uh, do youwant to take the gig? And I
was like yeah, QSM Fantasy Makers. Oh, and I got involved with

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the Spectator. That was a we'retalking about like the news racks and the
classified sections and that sort of thing. That was the big alternative, you
know, sexual alternative newspaper in SanFrancisco was the Spectator. Nice And from
there I came down to California,I mean came down to Los Angeles,

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and I kind of flubbed. I'vehad little sabbaticals in the community here and
there, but I'd say about twentythirteen's mistress Cyana and I were talking and
she was like, would you liketo do some press releases for dom Con

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And I'm like, yeah, yeah, let's get some word out there.
Let's do this, that and theother. And my partner, my late
partner, Sherry, and I wewere running a publicity place called Black and
Blue Media, And so I've kindof been the kinky publicist Nice Nice and

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what is if anybody is out there, I'd need to have that link in
there. If somebody needs a publicist, how would they publicist? How would
they get in touch with you publicists? Well, I would kind of doing

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the safety dance thing here. Iwould do. I would go through uh,
fet life and contact me through theprofile. I believe it's fetish artist
net. Okay, okay, andthat way I know the scene they're coming
from. I can actually do alittle more vetting. Do keep in mind
the dance card is pretty full lately. Okay. Oh that's good. That's

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good. That's my congratulations, allright, miss Mia. So, uh,
you say you've jumped in not reallyknowing anything as most of us do.
Uh when did it go from yourown personal experience to to pro It

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was when I was still serving inSir John's household. I wanted to do
what he was doing. All thefancy people in my head because I knew
nothing were the people in charge,and I wanted to be a people's in
charge. I wanted to be abig people's so, like, I jumped

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in head first and I asked him. I was like, what, I
know that we're doing what we're doing, But what do I have to do
to do what you're doing? Like, tell me riddle me that, batman,
because I'm want to do that part. And he told me, heads
up, you can't just jump onboard and just jump in two days.

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We have enough of those. Andlord, that was over twenty years ago,
and look at us now, Ma, Yeah, we are over bearing,
over laden. If we were aship, we were sink. If
we were a plane, we'd fallout the sky with so many people with
us. I personally am happy thatI had to take the road more travel.

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I learned a lot. I didn'tstay with the household nearly as long
as I should have, or Iwished I could have. But you know,
the real world comes kicking in thedoor, and Mississippi comes screaming like
the mafia, free to come backhome. And you go back home.
And I let everything go for likealmost a whole entire year because I'm like,

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I'm in Mississippi. I won't bedoing this shit anymore. Though.
It's a bunch of Bible thumpers andme moms and pee paps as far as
the eye can see. And I'mgetting ready to help my niece or my
cousin with a cotillion dress. Yeah, this isn't gonna happen anymore. And
and I was on the Internet becauseI had been playing around with the Internet

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in high school. I had learnedhow to build out on original HTML none
of these numbers behind it. Iactually had a website through Angel fire.
Anybody remember licos and GeoCities, Yeah, those did, huh? And I

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made myself a top ten web pageand when I got back, I was
like, I wonder if that websitestill love it was? It was ridiculous.
It was a spinning globe image withlike my favorite top ten songs and
I was like, eh, Ijust put a dirty picture on here,
and I just kept dumping more andmore filth into it, and then apparently

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somebody went to it and tagged mea hyperlink. It sent me to an
RSS feed very beginning of that shit, and that sent me back to Licos
to another site, and at theend of that stupid rabbit hole, I
found collar Me. And in collarMe, I found that the entire United

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States, not just Chicago, waskiky as fucking doing stuff everywhere, whether
I knew about it or not.And I went to my very first munch,
which was at someone's house, nota public place, but it was
an invite only party where they werebasically filtering through people's pictures to find the

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crop or the crop to show upfor their shit. And I think somebody
clicked on the wrong picture and invitedme. So I went to the munch
and I met a couple other peopleand they were like, oh, did
you know there's like a dungeon spaceright up a little bit past Memphis.
Their version of a little bit pastMemphis is Nashville. I was. I

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was like, well, it's notMississippi, but I do own a car
that's only three or four hour drive. That's all three four hour drive.
Where I was living at in Mississippi, I was thirty minutes down the street
from old miss Oh God, sothink more like a five and a half
six hour drive, depending on howpolite you feel like being the state troopers

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and the points on your license.I went to one party and it was
over. It was like it wasliterally that whole thing of like falling back
in love again and you never knewyou broke up in the first place kind
of feeling. And I had somuch fun and I was like, even
if it's just a ever so oftenoffshoot party and stuff, I'll outdo it.

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And I which is weird. Iended up never going back there again,
got invited a million times, endedup not going. Found a closer
club in Memphis after I got toMemphis called Impact and was a member there
for woh for almost five years.Really good group of people, some of

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everybody, not just a bunch ofvery thin, very petite, very modelesque
looking women, real looking human beings, still enjoying themselves. And it was
genuinely where I found out, likethere is more kink than stuff that's just
what you and I might consider it'ssexy stuff. It was my first time
meeting latex people who didn't do itfor like the sexual pleasure of Like I

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like being shiny where everyone wants totouch me, but more alone lines up.
I love encasement and feeling like I'mbeing hugged all the time. We
had a guy that we used tocall scuba Steve who would come with a
full navy wetsuit on damn and hewould go the entire night inside of this
damn thing. And when he wouldtake it off, it was like we

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were all waiting for the ball todrop in times square, like I wonder
how much it's going to come out, And he would peel out this thing
and it'd be like a splash zone, like shamly with the stadium around his
feet when he would come out ofit, and like that was his thing.
I never knew that somebody's kink wouldbe like I don't feel sexually or
or rogers lee turned on until Iam soaking something wet in my own giblet

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juice. It sounds like my surprisewhen I was at the Freakers Ball at
Masquerade in Atlanta one year and metsomebody who's fetish was licking and having their
eyeballs licked. Oh that's great fromJapan, that was yeah, that was

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their thing. But that obviously wesaid pro dom or some pronounced domain in
your in your personal life. AndI'm assuming, but I'll ask the question,
do you still participate in lifestyle oryou only pro now? Oh?

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Absolutely, yeah, it's in yoursoul. Now, don't go telling everybody,
even though I'm telling everybody who's lookingat your TV sets right now.
I do this still in a heartbeat. If I never got paid another cent,
don't get me wrong, I stillI could be paid since but like,
it's part of me, it alwayshas been. I didn't know about

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it until I got to a certainage, which was still technically young for
my liking now. But yeah,like it's when I get to go to
Dallas and have a party. Yeswe're gonna make money, Yes we're gonna
torture some people. But I'm gettingto see my sisters, I'm hanging out,

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I'm having fun, We're doing stuffoutside of this which is still torturing
someone. It's the whole reason whyI showed up for the party. Like
if I've showed up and it's somethingwhere no one has paid for my presence,
and you better know, damn skippy, I showed up because I wanted
to show up. I showed upfor a good time. I was mistress

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of ceremonies back in twenty eighteen becauseI'm old as dirt now, and the
first two days of the convention,I was all high protocol and wearing the
proper clothes. But when that notFriday, that Saturday night play party came
around, I had on a pairof jeans, a white button up shirt,
my favorite comfy black slide on ballerinaflats, and I had a bag

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full of fuck you up. AndI was so obtusely out of place in
La, not realizing that like it'sa play party, but you know,
not the coy you were used tohaving back in Memphis. This is everybody's

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still wearing their good clothes. Someoneis using a whip that has an actual
my Mom'm sorry wherever you had toknow you're gonna turn over in your bed
or your couch or your chair orwhatever cigarette you're smoking. But somebody was
using a whip and it had ayarn cracker on it as not to you
know, damage the latex that you'rebeing whipped in. That was going on

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in Aphrodite, by the way,Jay, And when popped, WI said,
soft a cracker. Damn that soundedbad. The guy means over like
backwards, kind of like setting himselfup, but not completely off of the
horse that was in there. Andhe's like, hey, I said,

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be careful. I just bought this, And that's when I realized we ain't
in Kansas anymore. Yeah, Andthere are different evolutionary eras of kink for
certain people, and there's nothing wrongwith that. But me myself and I
like when we throw our parties downto Texas. Don't get me wrong,

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everybody's gonna be very pretty when youshow up and shit, but eventually hold
is gonna come out of heills.We're taking off this dress, we're putting
on a pair of yoga pants.I blatantly have five tank tops to say,
I spank like iPhone logos across thefront of them. It says sergeant
me a dark on the back ofit. I'm not here for the long
time, folks, I'm here forthe good time. So yeah, that's

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when I went out there. Thatwas a luckily I had Mama April to
to tell me, which I've beenin California before, but she knows that
I have a bit of an issuewhen it comes to authority. Jesus,

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Look, look, look, She'slike, even me, there are some
of these individuals that you will runinto when you're at dom coon that are
just going to, you know,have a certain attitude and superiority complex,
and they're going to be in characterat all times, at all times,

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that's exactly it. Character. AndI'm like, okay, but are they
going to realize that I'm not theirsub That's the thing. Don't being character?
That's cool, but it's not I'mnot yours. So you're not going
to speak to me that way.I don't give a damn who you are,

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right, So how do you balancethat that that person when you're in
that energy and you're you're at aconvention or you're at a party and you
you're so used to being that,and then there's this balance that has to

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take place because every time, Imean the beginner has this thought of high
protocol or the strict thing going on, and sometimes it can personally catch me
off guard if I have to kindof like immediately switch to vanilla thinking while

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I'm in the scene. Do youfind that difficult or is that something that
you're easy You can easily transition between, you know what. I can only
explain it this way as an AfricanAmerican person in the United States, and
it's known as code switching. MM. You figure out who you can and
how you can talk around certain likeright now, one Southerner talking to another

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Subnber talking to another subner to whatused to be a Southerner. So the
conversation tends to stay a little bitlighter, lighthearted, not quite so overly
aggressive. Nobody's pulling out their dickor their clip to find out who's gonna
win this particular pisson contest. Ihave nothing against the West Coast. West
Coast has been nothing but kind.Well, let me take that back.

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The West Coast has been kind tome. I was about to say nothing
but kid, but James literally aboutto look at my face and be like
lying horn. I would love tohear Jay say that, just like you
lying more. But it is whatit is. I've learned how to instinctually

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and this is my This is myone X man slash anime is the cosskill.
I'm a social comedian. Either I'mgoing to keep you laughing or I'm
going to fade into whatever group ofpeople that I'm in, hold conversation,
talk about what needs to be talkedabout, bullshit about what needs to be

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bullshitted about, take everybody's gauging,and figure out how the rest of this
day or event is going to go. When I went to my first don
Con, it was the last downcon in Atlanta, so it were very
laid back. We were at theRamana. Nothing says you better be laid

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back quite like the Ramana. Don'ttake this too serious. This isn't Game
of Thrones. We don't have tohave salt and bread like. Everybody's being
basically cordial. We're Southerners. We'rebeing Southern. Uh. The first time
I went to La Oh, absolutenesssnubbed in ways that I am not even
going to talk about on this show. Because they were so ridiculous that it

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inspired me to like rage, quitagainst the machine, and I said,
this place will not eat me alive. I will come back and take a
fucking bite out of it, likeI don't know a Venetian. I will
have my found of flesh. AndI find that that's how I am personally.
I know it's not that way foreverybody. Everybody can be like I

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was in my sexy, kinky mindsat and then somebody came in and started
talking about politics. Now I haveto stop. I don't even have that
switch. It's just automatically like,oh, we've changed the subject. Let
me either become more quiet so Ican pay better attention. Also my own
personal version of vetting people. Youjust keep on talking and youself enough rope

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to hang yourself with. Uh.I keep my circle of people like Jay
is just my publicist. Jay isone of my best fucking friends on the
planet. For the amount of timethat we've known each other, He's done
more for me in this community asa professional than damn near any person I

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know other than Mistress Science. AndI mean that wholeheartedly. J knows how
I ended up becoming his client inthe first hand, place because two other
people said, one you're a hardcelle because you're black. The other one
said you're a hard cell because you'refat and black. And that made me
cry. Hell man cry too.But then I wanted to go punch somebody's

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fucking car, but that's super againstthe law, and I ain't got no
money like that yet, So I'mlooking on it. I found being raised
up in church and having that churchperson and and then that outside of church

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persona that I learned very strongly frommy abusive father. That's how that's how
uh I switch? Basically, it'sit's being a chameleon. Yeah, And
I get asked that a lot.That's the reason why I asked you is

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because of that question coming up sooften, Like how so, uh,
I'm going to a party this comingweekend and it's only it's my third party,
and you know, one, it'snot what I expected, Like there's
there's a lot of kinky fun stuffhappening that people are doing over here,
but then over here people are talkingabout recipes and raising kids and all this

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other stuff. And I'm finding itso hard to switch back and forth.
And that's always my first question,Like okay, so you're from the South.
I'm gonna assume you grew up inchurch, and I'm going to assume
that you you had your mother orgrandmother. There's somebody that's going to thump
you on the back of the headif you acting up. But if you're

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at home, you get away witha little bit more. So you develop
this different mindset. You know,so cool cool, all right and and
fetish artist. If you have anyinsights on this, please throw them out.
Jay, I do the well forstarters, like being in the scene,

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especially like everyone. I'll have people, especially in Los Angeles, kind
of look at me and go,I know you. I don't know how
I know? How do I knowyou? Where? Where do I know?
And I've just had to go.I get around, I get around
and the slumber party there we go. Yeah, so like the but you

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know it's very easy for you know, it's like there are people that are
on my radar that like sometimes theydon't ping high or it's like I've seen
them here, I've seen them there. We're going to cross pass like and
then like so I don't know howor where exactly. Mia might have been
hanging on the radar beforehand, butI remember like twenty eighteen, my first

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year in New Orleans, and tobe completely candid, there was a bit
of a rivalry between Simone Justice andGoddess Phoenix in regards to our second line
parade. And I will leave itat that. It was amusing, I'll
put it that way. And Icome in and there's Goddess Phoenix. It's
not even the show hasn't even reallybegun. I think it's like Wednesday maybe

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or something like that. And there'sGoddess Phoenix and she's totally dressed up,
and there's mea dark with her,and they're they've got like the the Bloody
Mary's with all the all the accessorieson the glass are at the bar.

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I just thought about, I knowexactly what you're talking about at bar,
and I'm like, I'm taking arisk here of like you know, here
I am the y chromosome walking intothe room, and I was like,
may I join you? And it'slike yes, absolutely, And I just
knew, like just from everything thatwas coming from me, either just like

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a little plaque or just kind ofappeared underneath her that said your new best
friend, oh buden, and solike the this, this and the thing
is is there's a lot of air, so to speak, an image that

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comes with with female domination and theyou know, being a dominatrix, especially
now that we've got fin Doom involvedand there's you know, there was already
money on the table at stake,but with fin dom it takes it,
it racks it up a couple ofnotches. Where your image is where it's
all about, and your domination iswhere it's all about, and you're commanding

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and you're controlling. But the thingis is, at the end of the
day, it's about the work.And what I would watch is like a
really good example. You know,you would have some people that like gave
an air of authority. They youknow, they did this, they did
that. You know you could tellthe nose, the nose was ratcheted like

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a couple of degrees up in theair. Yeah, But when it came
down to brass tacks, Mia wouldbe like, okay, let me put
on my flats, let me letme take off my coat. And she's
in there like one of the thingsshe'll do, she'll do the press on
nails and the re and why isshe you know, she gets to be
pretty, she gets to like youknow, still have that image in this

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set and the other and then it'sall right, we've done with that.
The nails come off, grabbing,grid wall, grabbing, you know,
throw it in the truck. Let'sget this move in. Like one of
the first cons I was working withwith her, she was hosting one of
the con suites and she made surethe volunteers got fed. Wow, you

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know she's there. She's like,she's got like the whole the whole thing
set up in the hotel room andshe's cooking bacon right there. It's like,
we're doing breakfast for dinner. We'regoing to feed everybody, and and
she's taken care of us. Andso the thing is is Mia really does

(35:52):
put in the work. So it'snot just in front of the kid,
it's not just in front of thescenes. Behind the scenes, Mia does
a lot of She actually puts ina bunch of sweat equity. Yeah,
And how can I not like that? There's there's I mean, it's like
you want to be an ally.It's like, you know, not just

(36:13):
an ally, you want to bean accomplice. M h, there you
go. And so I said privatelybefore we started, uh that I have
certainly heard of mistress mea dark andthat I have from from certain there's certain

(36:34):
people that can tell me about otherpeople and how much they respect them,
and there's like, oh, okay, that's planning a set of respect.
And then you hear it from somany other people. But that's one of
the things you you laughingly, youknow, oh, you know, kind
of implied that probably I heard alot of bad stuff. That's actually one

(37:00):
of the things that I heard frommore than from more than just fetish artists
that you know, you're you giveback. A lot of people come in
and they want to take, andthen there are those who it realized that
if you want that respect, well, it's not even a because of it's

(37:22):
just a natural thing that some peopledo. And that's you know, I
commend you for that, both ofyou. And let me throw this out
there too. A lot of peoplehear us talk about dom Con. I
reference dom Con a lot. Ifyou end up going to a dom Con,
please volunteer, especially for tear downNight. You might end up missing

(37:45):
the party, but if enough peoplewill volunteer, then you can get it
done and still make the final party. Please do that. We all did
that when we went and I didn'tmake the party, and that was sad,
but it was so worth it toto help out all of these amazing
people, to put so much effortinto this. I mean there was still

(38:05):
injuries and pain and laughs were had, so it still counts, right,
I mean, yeah that Grid walls, no joke that was had than that.
What gloves were for, well,when you didn't know you were going
to be doing the thing and thenyou're just hey, come do the thing,
and we're like, okay, youdon't have gloves on on on standby

(38:30):
right, all right? I gotmuch more to get into and I don't
I don't want to miss anything.So on the personal side of the of
this thing, miss Mia, doyou do you switch or are you strictly
dominant? If I may be dominant, I started out as a sub What
I do is I tolerate physical painand mental pain very well. That was

(38:55):
the only reason I was a submissive, not because I just was cruising for
a bruising or it was absolutely whatI was into. It was an ends
to a meaning. If I wantedto do what the big kids were doing,
I had to learn what the littlekids had to go through for the
big kids to be able to enjoythemselves. And I genually don't believe if

(39:15):
you're financial domination, if you're askingfor a million dollars, are you willing
to put in a million dollars worthof working effort into the human being that
you're asking for it from micromanagement anythinglike that, or are you just asking
for a million dollars if you aresaying I will whip you, I will
beat you, I will can you, I will crop you, I will
flog you, I will flagulate you. Whatever. Have you had those things

(39:37):
done to you so that you canknow what you're doing to that other person.
Putting someone through their paces just forthe shits and giggles of it is
cool and everything, but if youcan't genuinely say, like, hey,
what I'm fixing to do is fuckedup, but you know we both enjoy
it. Kick tires and light thefires. Let's start this motherfucker up.
I'm one hundred percent with you.There's a lot of people. It's funny

(40:00):
because I think just about everybody thatargues against that are people who have never
done that. It turns into Iknow this sounds random, but hear me
out. My daddy may he restin peace. Across the other side of

(40:22):
this camera from me was very bigon just stating Fantis facts. He was
a stoic man, he was Jamaican, couldn't help. So the first thing
he ever taught me is that theuniverse doesn't owe you shit. You owe
the universe everything. So if you'regoing to encompass yourself into one, two

(40:44):
twenty people, then they need tobe your universe. They don't owe you
anything, you owe them everything.Especially as a top, I'm saying,
hey, let me do ridiculous thingsto you that if we were in front
of any law abiding citizen, someonewould call the cops on us right now,
especially me. I want you towholehearted me do this and love me

(41:04):
at the end of it. Iappreciate. And on the other side of
that coin is you are about toallow me to do horrible things to you
and you're not gonna call the cops, and I am going to love and
appreciate you for the sacrifice that you'remaking. It's kind of like when you
go hunting, like I'm not aboutto take down a deer just because I'm
going to get a cool ass palledout of it. And maybe some new
fancy nunchuck bloggers. I'm doing itbecause I'm gonna eat, and because I

(41:30):
get to eat, I give thanksto the critter that I'm fucking eating.
I'm not a but if you takea bite out of your ass, I'm
gonna say thank you for the nibble, appreciate it. I love that explanation,
and that's why in my rules loveby that quote from Paul Young,
who, by the way, isas a I think a pastor of a

(41:51):
church. He's definitely a Christian author. But and that gives me a kick
because I do have a religious kinkor a sacriligious ink of as it may
be. All yeah, but submissionis not about authority, and it's not
about obedience. It is all aboutrelationships of love and respect. And I
think that mirrors exactly what you're saying. Let's see, what is your style

(42:20):
of domination? You know what?If I say something, please don't think
me rude or trying to turn theentire complex of BDSM on this ear.
I don't have a style of domination. I just do what I do.
I do what's enjoyable for me andthe person that I'm doing it with.
Hopefully this whole. I'm essential Dominatrix. Okay, that's like OJ Simpson's like,

(42:51):
I'm not black, I'm OJ.You do you enjoy your lane.
I'm gonna be over here, probablyby myself, because I do best when
I'm by myself. I don't bite. People can't bite if they're not there.
See That's what I'm saying. Butlike anybody will tell you, they

(43:15):
people have seen me play hard likethis last down kind of New Orleans,
I literally grabbed a boy by hisskin on the back and picked him up
off of the bench. Oh God, that's awesome. Or it could be
I'm laughing my way through torturing youbecause I am a sucker for suckers who
love doing geeky, nerdy cosplay shit. Like most of my ads, one

(43:39):
of my favorite sessions I ever hadwas with a young man who was sent
to me by another domination that Imet through fet life when fat life first
became a thing, because I hadbeen on fet life since six months ish.
It was first incepted. She said, and I quote, I can't
do it, Maya, I justcan't. He wants me to dress up

(44:01):
like something, and it's something abouta sword, and he's got these fake
feet and I just can't and Iwas like, the fuck, and she
was like something, and she sendsme a copy of his script of what
he wants for his session. Hewants to be Frodo Baggins. He wants

(44:22):
her to be a raith. Hewants to be spanked with his sword sting.
He has a replica of the sword. He would like for it to
be recorded for him to enjoy itlater because he's not very sure if he'll
be able to afford a session likethis later on, because he's in college
and a student. And she waslike, the money is okay, but

(44:42):
like, oh, it's just ohoh, the dressing up for me.
And what I said to her ina response was bitch, I've seen you
shit on a fucking table in Germany. Why is this the problem? And
inside my head, I'm like,that's my thing. These are my people.

(45:05):
Every whether y'all know it or notas pros, every professional Dominatris is
not going to take on every session. Some things just creep us right the
fuck out, and it's enough tobe cringe worthy to the point that you're
like, yeah, I'm good.All money isn't good money, thanks,
though, bye, me myself andI. That's my niche, that's my
market, the weird jay. Youdidn't come the last sanctuary, did you?

(45:31):
Uh? Which sanctuary? Uh?Well, sanctuary for witch call for
club anarchy. No, we didtell Razor night. No I missed out
on that one. Okay, thatnight, I dressed myself completely from top
to bottom, including painting my baldhead black down to my eyes where tate
was dripping, and then I proceededto take twenty minutes to set acupuncture needles

(45:57):
all through a man's bald head,neck, shoulders, back torso, down
the ribs, and completely across asgenitals because it was a Saturday night and
I didn't have shit else to do. You want that mean imposing, standing
over you, demanding of you,micro managing you, angry ex wife type

(46:21):
dominatrix. I can do that.You want to sit back, drink a
beer while I spank the hell outof you, or use you as a
foot ortoman while I watch my favoritegame and hopefully my nephew next year get
to go towards the playoffs again.I got you. You want to be
a cat. You want to curlup on mama's lap, My lap's big
enough for two. Get your assup here. You need to be picked

(46:43):
up, carried and burked. Youwant to be sad on You need somebody
to just tell you that you're notworth the time of day. But you
could be a better person with myknowledge, help and functional fun. I
got you couldn't. But guess whatI don't got. I don't got time
for people who don't understand what itis that they're looking for. I'm willing

(47:05):
to help you cruise the section,but I'm not going to park your fucking
car for you and then back itinto the driveway. Do you get a
lot of that? A lot ofpeople like, yes, I want time
with you, but well, whatdo you want? I have no clue.
I was hoping maybe this will endin a quick fuck and I could
tell my friends that I had funwith a porn star slash dominatrix. Sorry,

(47:25):
putting you didn't came to the wronghorse. I love that quote that
you have. I even put itin the show notes, and I think
this comes off of your fat life. It says, if for any reason,
you were unsatisfied with your DS experience, please feel free to complain to
the domain that you chose to scenewith but if this domain was wearing a

(47:50):
pretty flogger on her hip and keptasking if she's hurting you, well,
you just got your money's worth.I think I wrote that, I want
to say between twenty twelve and twentyfourteen. And I keep it on there
for a reason. One. Ifyou make it all the way to the

(48:12):
bottom, pass the updates and randomsparkly bits and me playing with the editor
on there. Once we all foundout we could make different sizes and colors
of letters, it still stands true. Don't complain to me. I don't
want to hear about how every otherdom conned you out of your money.
I don't want to hear about howyou got spammed by every fin dom after

(48:35):
you said that you were into financialdomination. Honey, some things should be
kept to the chess. People don'trealize this anymore. You're giving away,
You're dashing people with the milk,fuck the cow, and then you wonder
why at the end of it,someone has amalgamated enough information on you to
figure you out as a human beingby reading your profile and what you're supposedly

(48:58):
into. And I'm gonna go onthe other side this coin too. If
you were a dominatrix of any sort, brand new baby dom, been doing
this for fifty fucking years old,school Dom. Please understand I don't want
to have to tell you in acome to Jesus kind of conversation about how
I don't care that you didn't planwell for your life after this. Did

(49:21):
you genuinely think you were going tobe twenty five and pretty until you were
ninety? I know this sounds weird. I have a two bedroom, two
bathroom house in Oklahoma. It sitson its own little lot. I have
a garage. I have a fencefor my entire life. That's all the
fuck. I wanted a home thatwas mine, that couldn't be taken away

(49:44):
from me, So guess what Iplanned for it? Instead of buying persons
that I knew I couldn't afford.My Grandma was real big, don't buy
a course that you can't put thesame amount of money into it that you
just paid for it. So Ipassed up on a lot of ed Hardy's
Fendy's, and not just as mypersonal purchases, but as gifts from other

(50:07):
people. I was like, I'dmuch rather have that in cash. I
appreciate the person. Don't get mewrong, every once in a while I'll
take it like the gentleman who wasbuying me my age equivalency every birthday in
shoes, because I'm never gonna sayno to shoes because I fucking love shoes.
But you have to understand, likethat's a lot of shoes. Yeah,
it's a lot of shoes, butlike that, all those shoes put

(50:29):
together could have been at least threeor four months worth of a car note
with gap insurance. Like I gotreally big feet. These are really nice
shoes. Fighting shoes like that inmy size, not of all the time
kind of thing. So I tookthose shoes because that was an offer I
couldn't refuse. But if someone saysI would either give you five thousand dollars

(50:51):
or we could go hang out inthe Bahamas, I got a whole damn
husband. We can use half ofthat money because I'm willing the crewise cheap
and then put that towards the housethat I I'm paying off because when all
of this is done, when myshoulder goes out, because now I officially
have carpal tunnel, or like Ilike to call it, dominatrix twist.
I've had the surgery. Yeah,and that's why I'm like I'm whether people

(51:16):
believe it or understand it, orwant to understand it or not. What
I do as a service industry justas much as you walking into your job
making a product so that product canbe sold for somebody else to make an
ass load of cash and you toget paid the bare bones minimum, that's
what I do. I just figuredout that I'm willing to negotiate my worth
and then stand on my ground ofmy negotiations. This ain't gonna fix itself.

(51:39):
But guess what the insurance that wepay for every month, which is
premium and covers things like art attacksand cancer and stroke, which run really
heavy and predominantly in my family.I decided I wanted that more than I
wanted like a brand new year modelcar. I know a lot of people
who do this that don't. Thefirst class I ever taught at dom Coon

(52:01):
and everybody still picks on me aboutthis shit, was the save ten dollars
a day class where I was tellinggrown adults save your money index funds rock
Ira. Have y'all heard of anyof this while you was out there playing?
And the best dungeons, going tofucking con Zontacon, going across seas

(52:25):
to Madam Carmel. Shit, didyou think about taking care of home first
and then go out and do allthe cool shit. I'm a prepaid girl.
I've never had an ass load ofmoney in my life, and when
I did, it was absolutely illegal. I don't feel like running and playing
those kind of games anymore. SoI think for my future and hopefully it

(52:49):
will go to playing. If not, i'm a sucker for Like, let's
see if we can niggle this intosomething better that we thought it was gonna
turn into. But other than that, I'm sitting on my couch talking to
you, eating uncrustable and I'm happyto do it. I love it.
You brought up teaching, and I'vegot some questions about education and teaching.
First, we've got to take aquick break. I need to give a

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going back to teaching and education ingeneral, what are your thoughts on BDSM

(55:42):
education. And obviously you do teach, but how much time a year or
a month or whatever would you sayyou dedicate just to teaching Every month?
I do an online discord through myfriend's discord who decided that what I did
for a living was just too fuckinginteresting. And because we're friends, and

(56:07):
we did one of those Twitter notx spaces It ended up becoming a thing
where once a month I just stoppedby and I answered random questions for folks,
usually things on sexual health testing generallike am I doing this wrong?

(56:28):
Kind of questions, and then likesome more like hey, how do I
know I'm into stuff? I've hadpeople question their personalities and their sexualities with
me, and I'm not gonna lie. I've always been one of those hyper
like what you doing, what youdo with kind of kids, and now
as an adult, I'm like,let me tell you what I did kind
of adult and I let everybody knowup front, I am not, nor

(56:52):
have I ever been a medical professional. These are my own personal views.
But for the most part they've keptme out of t They've kept me fairly
safe, and I like to sharewhatever I can with people for people who
are willing to accept the share nice. So I'm going from that that you

(57:12):
feel that to be some education andsex education is something very very important.
We need more. Yeah dot comdot com Like, I'm not gonna say
it's lacking, because we all knowit's lacking. There's always like it's it's
like graduating class. You get thefreshmen to come in and they leave as
seniors, Did you learn anything inthese four years? Did somebody just pass

(57:34):
you the fuck along to the nextdamn grade? And I find that these
last about ten twelve years, we'vebeen having a lot of people cruise and
through the high school years hard andwith extreme difference. Uh. I had
a young man who asked me onthe discord, like, is it cool

(57:57):
to punch my girlfriend in the backof the bead like a donkey punch?
Because you know, fucking Urban Dictionaryis a thing still, And I get
a lot of like, is thisa real thing, rusty trombone, Yes
it is. I can describe it, but you already have the dictionary online.

(58:20):
You go right on her head andthat it's always something. It's always
going to be something, whether itbe the same kind of question stated fifteen
different ways, or what I lovebrand new questions. Young lady was wondering
if she should think more about hersexuality because she was brought into a three
way with her husband with another younglady who she knows but isn't like heads

(58:45):
up friends with, and now she'sfinding herself having more feelings for the young
lady than she does sexually for herhusband. And she didn't know what to
do. And I was like,well, you and your husband should totally
sit down and have a conversation aboutthis. And it doesn't mean that you'd
love your husband any less. Apparently, at no point in time during your
little message you just sent me thatyou were like, I just don't like
him anymore. It's just that you'refinding her more sexually flavoring. And I

(59:07):
would prefer that people ask those kindof questions first before they're like, I
got this, something like this,before I got this. I have been
on many a flight with Southwest,but I bet you I couldn't get us
there. I do not get tobe your pilot. I watch YouTube video

(59:30):
on that. I can just dothe thing. Yeah, it's automated anyway,
right, And what they say aboutthe guy who landed on the Hudson,
it's not that big a deal.Oh it's all automated. The flying
landed on the Hudson. That countsas a pretty big fucking deal to me.
Yeah, right, I swear therewas a movie about it, and

(59:50):
that was a thing. There wasOkay, Denzel Washington playing well no,
no, no, we're thinking aboutthe other gentleman, and that was Tom
Hanks into Washington played the pilot whowas probably drunk but still landed the plane.
Yes, I mean, if it'sDenzel, it's a good movie.
So, uh, fetish artist,your thoughts on education? The really hard

(01:00:21):
part is we branched this stuff.Actually, let me rephrase it. The
concern I have is the mainstreaming ofBDSM on several levels. Uh. There's
a funny moment in Rick and Mortywhere Summer basically blurts out that all of

(01:00:43):
her her and all of her friendseat each other's asses. And you know,
it's like the there there are peoplethat are gonna experiment with this stuff
regardless of you know, the circles, what education is available, this and

(01:01:04):
the other. How many times haveyou known someone it's like, okay,
so we fooled around with handcuffs,flex tie or zip ties. I remember
there was a thing I did wherewe just basically grabbed rope from the back
of a car without thinking about ittoo much because it was what we had

(01:01:25):
on hand. But the thing isis that my concern is if this stuff
mainstreams too far, then people eitherassume they know everything or they get hot
by mainstream. And there's been likein terms of sex education. I've said

(01:01:47):
many times, learning sex by watchingporn is like learning to drive through watching
car chases on television and movies.It's it's not it's not realistic. There's
there's you know, it's like goingback to going back to analingus. There's

(01:02:07):
a lot of stuff that you youknow, it's like, oh, well,
they do it all the time onkink dot com. They do it
all the time. But there's beenpreparation, these people have been tested.
Uh, there's been clean up thisset and the other, and there's still
moments where it gets gross. Sothat's where we really need our boots on

(01:02:30):
the ground, grassroots education, especiallywhen new things come up that people don't
necessarily you know, it sounded neat, it looked cool. Things come to
mind sounding electroplay or ease stimulation suspension. This is a very serious actually suspension.

(01:02:54):
It's a very serious argument I've hadcome back and forth. One of
my mentors is very seriously of theopinion that you need to be doing rope
bondage for a while and start toget you know, you have to have
your floor work down, you haveto have a lot of your basics down.
You have to understand pressure points,and most importantly, you have to

(01:03:16):
understand the person you're tying up beforeyou hoist that person off the ground.
M h. And there are otherswhere it's like, Okay, well we're
going to do a thing and we'regoing to we're going to have people suspending,
like within the within the first houror so, or we'll do it.
We'll do a suspension the first youknow, on the first class and

(01:03:37):
it's like, uh, the theintensive that the mentor I had I did
recently was it was a three dayweekend thing and like on the third day
then they actually, okay, nowyou get to try a suspension. And

(01:04:02):
so there is stuff that you know, it's like and there are things that
like you this all four of ushere would agree. You don't do something
with the neck, you avoid hittingthe kidneys, you don't tie on joints.
But the thing is these are youdon't punch somebody in the back of

(01:04:26):
the head. You know. ThereThere was a friend of mine Stella used
to love working in and don't holdyour breath in conversations with Jay Weisman as
much as she could, but therealities are that you need to know,

(01:04:46):
you know, something like breathplate youneed to know as much as possible,
including if in doubt, just don'tfucking do it. I mean, sorry,
go ahead, it's not something youwant to learn having watched like some
kind of episode on television. Whatabout TikTok it's a great resource, right,

(01:05:11):
Sorry I'm being sarcastic. Well,it's it's in terms of the internet,
it's these are great ways to findout that these things exist. But
like you really want to do more, that's when you need to, like,
Okay, where's the local group,where's the educational people? Where where
you know, where's the convention?You know, let me go over to

(01:05:32):
fetcon Dom, Coon Frolicon test Festand find out more. There's many cases,
like one of the hard parts asa publicist that I run into is
there will be a reporter that willput out a thing of I'm looking for
experts to talk about a very specifickin and let's just throw out a few

(01:05:56):
like breath play, urethral play,electric play, and they'll they'll they'll preface
it with must be a medical professional, like must be a urologist, must
have must must be either a nurseor a doctor or a specialist. And

(01:06:17):
the problem is with that is thatthere are some doctors and medical personnel that
can kind of give you a briefrundown of what may be safe and unsafe,
but they haven't necessary you know.It's like, have they dealt with
the case that's come in to theemergency room on this? Do they know

(01:06:38):
what people are doing behind the scenes. And the difference between that and a
professional dominatrix or even a lifestyler thathas actually not only done the medical research
and can cite the medical research,but actually a scene and been involved with
what this happens in person. There'sa huge difference. Like there are going

(01:07:00):
to be doctors that have never touchedon BDSU, but you can have like
a professional dominatrix with twenty thirty fortyyears in the scene who's seen this stuff
in action and been there when stuffhas gone wrong, And that's a huge
difference. Boots on the ground inhuman intelligence is a much better resource many

(01:07:27):
times than an old textbook. Yeah, I've was this. I was working
in a nursing home, so twentyor two thousand and five, two thousand
and six, got into a conversationwith a nurse practitioner that had to remove

(01:07:48):
a broken intenna that somebody had usedfor sounding just a yeah, broke off
of a car, so it didn'thave it wasn't a mechanical antenna, so
luckily it didn't have joints or slidesor anything in it. And her way

(01:08:09):
of going about this was to goin through the urethra and pull it remove
it, and that's how she saidshe had been told to do that when
she did a rotation, and I'myou know, no, you start at

(01:08:33):
the taint and you can massage itup if you know what you're doing.
If you get one loss, there'sa way to retrieve it that is non
invasive. And one she flat outsaid that I was a liar, which
was big coming from her because wehad a great working relationship. She was
a very sweet older lady, butshe she didn't know what she didn't know.

(01:09:00):
And I think that that's the biggestproblem we've talked about, you know,
mainstream BDSM and or all these differentfetishes becoming mainstream. And I think
that's the majority of the problem,is that people don't know what they don't
know, and that's what is causingthe majority of the harm. Instead of

(01:09:25):
all of that good fun, pleasurablehurt that we thrive off thoughts. I'm
only gonna say this once genuinely whenpeople don't want to believe you because you're
not a certified medical expert. Butthe medical expert is not an expert in

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things that aren't medical. You haveto have that fine line where you have
to be willing to back up offof yourself and how much you thought you
knew versus learning something new. That'snot just for medical professionals. That's for
life. Yeah, just because youthink you know something doesn't mean that that's

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the end all, be all,alpha and omega of that particular skill set
of knowledge. We don't make peoplelike Encyclopedia Britannicas anymore. That's why we
got the Internet. Now for allthose young people, that was actual books.
Sorry, yes, actual books.That's how old I am doing reports

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out of books that probably stopped givingup to date information at least three or
four years after I got the books. We had two different sets of them
when I was a kid, Andfor all the difference that it made,
because by the time I made itto high school, we were all using
the Internet to find everything, andmy mother and father just had hundreds of
pounds of books filled with useless,out of date trivial knowledge in alphabetical order.

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Yeah, and beautiful leather bindings,beautiful books. And I never wanted
to have a wall that looked likeyou were hanging out with Harry Potter for
the fucking weekend. There you go, and there. There's nothing wrong with
being able to cite sources. There'snothing wrong with being able to understand the
history and what people first thought ofthis, that, and the other.
But the thing that comes to mymind is some of these same references,

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you know, you go back througharchives. One of the things was was
that, like in the BDSM scene, you didn't there there were no mainstream
textbooks on how to do BDSM,so you had to rely on things like
zines, alternative publications. That's wheresomething like Society of Janice, the Olenspiegel

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Society when they were publishing stuff.Sometimes that would be like, yes,
this is from the people that haveactually experienced this in person, as opposed
to hearing it from someone in amedical personnel a medical arena that would be
like, well, I guess ifyou did X, then why would happen?

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And this is what And the brightside that we've had is we have
had medical professionals or people like JayWeisman is a really great example of people
that have medical experience to be ableto come in and go and teach in

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the community. You can do this, you can do that, you should
not do the other. And that'smuch more solid than a reporter for a
mainstream publication reaching out to a doctorwho hasn't been involved in this sort of
thing the same thing. For like, it's moments like these that I really

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value the fact that doctor Jeff comesout to dom con Uh, actual doctor
who is also a practitioner of BDSMthat meet in the middle that I was
talking about, where you have somebodywho has the factual knowledge of how the
human body works, but also hasthe knowledge of being inside of play spaces

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and when your textbooks don't go right. I know myself and I know that
one of my friends is a verybig fan of tapouts, so a lot
of gentlemen come to her for tapouts. Uh, you want to be choked
until you take a nap, whichdoesn't really sound like it's very complicated,
but it's very fucking complicated and verydangerous and very dangerous. So this is

(01:13:50):
something that you need to be doingwith somebody who has dealt with someone who
might not have had that grade ofreaction to it. A horrible reaction to
it, an awesome reaction to it, not just the Hey, I can
lay you down in four minutes orless, dependent on how hard I squeeze
with my legs or my arms.You want some Well, I didn't hear

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all of that, but yes Ido. You don't actually talking about choking
people outuntill they pass out without aperson who knows what I'm doing. It's
when, and that's what I love. How BDSM has become in the last
couple of years. It used tobe we're all doing something wrong together.
Now it's like the echelons of wrong, Like how wrong is your wrongness?

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Yeah, I'm seriously heart tag tohave someone tell me that I'm wrong because
I like the fuck boys in thebutt Shoot me jesus, I'm horrible,
But like you fisting the girl,that's perfectly fine because it's sexy here in
your head. No, get mewrong, just had has seen quite a

(01:15:04):
few ladies and gentlemen. This badhas seen a lot of fucking shit over
the years. But like, youcan't say it's like that whole thing about
sin, Like my sin of jaywalkingin the street is nowhere near as bad
as your sin of murder. Butwe're all sinning though. Last time I
checked, that automatically gets you offof the one forty four list. So

(01:15:27):
what you gonna do? You thinkyours is less than mine because you know
it wasn't as serious. You'd probablybe cool with smacking a baby too,
just for saying shit like that.So I fight it with people who have
that instant I know better attitude orlike Jay said, we need you to
have a certain amount of medical professionaltraining. How many doctors, nurses,

(01:15:51):
EMTs, fire and rescue people doyou think are about to put their careers
on the line to come out andeducate on something that you're gonna want to
blast their happy ass across the entirepublic for folks to either know one they
don't know what the fuck they're talkingabout, which is what's gonna come from
our side of the fence, likelow me moll telling you, oh no,
that's a motherfucking lie, bitch.How do you know have you ever

(01:16:14):
done it? Because I can promiseyou I've gent a couple of them out.
I had a friend of mine thathad a butt plug incident. And
this is why I tell people youneed to find out what your gauge is
for you go popping stuff in thereand checking your oil in your own damn
tape. It got up in there. She sat down the rim of it
that's supposed to stay outside, decidedto like go right up in there.

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Now she's freaking out. Her freakingout was I'm about to go to the
emergency room. I'm gonna have tohave all of those stories from the er
moment. I called my friend,she's a nurse, and she's like,
they're gonna have to take it out. They're gonna have to pop you open
like a canvas sardines, just pullthat right out of there. And I
said, no, you know,drink like three good tablespoons olive oil.

(01:16:59):
It's gonna taste like asked, givenabout four or five hours. Match.
If it doesn't come down after that, then go and holler. Somebody also
stand up. I watched an impromptuanal fisting take place to remove one Mayfair
was there. Mayfair avoided that lightfisting is actually anything to do with it,

(01:17:25):
talking about it anything. She's like, nope, I'm out. It
was always the one woman, andshe always gave me intimate details that I
promise you I never asked for.I was sitting trying to like isolate because
I was overwhelmed, and she wouldjust come sit naked as can be and
like sit basically touching me and tellingme about how she really wants suspists to

(01:17:48):
be inside of her, and butthey couldn't get it because the way her
uters is shaped like this, andlike going into intimate details. And I'm
just like sitting here trying to likefucking to be at vagina and an elongated
Ureus I could tell just by whatyou were saying. Now, See there's
the difference between myself and a doctor. I didn't have to give up eight

(01:18:10):
years of my life to be ableto tell you something from a quick diagnosis.
By what you said, Now,that doctor could probably give you the
exact same thing. Gonna cost ahell of a lot more money, but
he's not gonna know. Like,if you tickle the sidewalls just a little
bit, it tends to make thevery very bottom closest to the cervix like
convulse a little bit, kind oflike to tick with it. And if

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unless you done bang the walls completelythe fuck out. Nature will have its
way. It'll be like oop,and that just popped out of me like
a cat bury aide. Well,my Fair, I mean to be honest,
you do present yourself with someone whowould be into it. So when
I'm like isolated and like curled upon a couch trying to hide from everyone,

(01:18:56):
letree tell me about your unus.Miss Mayfair is one of these.
She has very huge bubble, Likeyou know, in our society, you
got like that three to four footbubble. Hers is like twelve feet,
Like, don't hug me, don'ttouch myself. Yeah, Like I would
go try to hide somewhere, andshe's like and when I first came into

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the scene, I was very itwas a lot different. Okay, so
it was it was blasting naked peoplewas a lot for me. And then
she would just like come in sittouching me, and I'm just like,
I don't want you to touch meanyway, and you're naked, and now
you're like giving me details and aboutyour anatomy that I never asked for.

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My conversations at the dungeon are muchlike gig picks. Please feel free to
keep them to yourselves. Or I'mgoing to feel the need to do pro
editor like we are playing on Wikipedia, which means I can blast whatever the
fuck I want to in these littleup all the space. I had to
be very careful in a conversation wheresomebody came out and said, trauma isn't

(01:20:09):
funny, and what I wanted totell them was, my trauma is fucking
hilarious. Like don later. Yeah, if I was a cartoon character,
I would be one of those bugeyed quiet characters just on the couch sipping

(01:20:30):
their beverage, just trying to getlike a moment of peace and quiet while
the house is coming down around them. That's not a cartoon character. That's
what you do now. I mean, I'm watching I'm watching Harley Quinn animated
thing that moment where I poison.Ivy is just trying to sit down on

(01:20:54):
the couch with a bottle of wineand look at and look at a little
TV. And then suddenly everyone comesin and they smashed the coffee table and
they break the TV and she's justlike I was just trying to get a
moment of piece of qua and I'mlike, oh god, and that's the

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thing, is like, yeah,it's like my traumas can be hilarious.
Like I've I've had, like youknow, moments of like it's been quiet,
someone will come up behind me andI'll just like spook. I'll just
like they'll say something I didn't evenknow they were there. They just kind

(01:21:39):
of startled me, and I willscream like a little girl. I've seen
it. I tend to elbow realquick. Yeah, I think Jay I
got that reaction out of you andand and didn't even know it was a
thing, didn't mean to do it. But at uh don Kon in New

(01:21:59):
Orleans. I think that was intwenty nineteen. Oh god, Sorry,
We're just about out of time here. And there's two really important questions that
I want to get to. Thefirst one is going back to the education

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and are continuing with education but ona personal level, for like mentorships and
things like that, something that aroundthis part of the country you really don't
hear a lot of and it's sucha missed opportunity. It's a missed thing.

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A lot of us who have beenaround a while have been burned by
mentees and students, and so wedon't want to do it anymore unless it's
somebody that we've known for a verylong time, and it's on something specific
and then we're done. But thefull on mentorship is almost becoming a lost

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art. Miss me. How doyou how do you see it on that
side of the country or I'm noteven gonna lie to you where I'm at.
They, I say, they asthough I am outside of this group
of people, which I am not. I just seclude myself from them because
I kind of got fit up forreasons like this when I went pro.

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I went pro while I was stillpart of a household, traditional Victorian style
household, but still a household.So I had somebody looking over my shoulder,
like go do that. Somebody wouldstop me when I was going a
line too far. You have officiallywalked over the line. You've pissed on
it, you scribbled all in it, and you said me it was here.

(01:24:02):
We don't do that anymore. Uh, there's no more. Even if
it isn't an actual independent house likeit is one master mistress combo individually,
whatever the fuck with a household thatis full of sub slaves, submissives,
whatever the fuck is filling in theblank like you own me, but like
you know own me, honey,it doesn't matter. We don't do that

(01:24:24):
anymore now. It's just like Isaw this thing on the Internet and that's
what I'm gonna do dot com andI'm sort of fucking full on it.
You get people who come into thishaphazardly. The young lady who was doing
financial domination in Blackmail and took ita step too far and ended up with
the fans at her fucking door.She's ruined entire man's life for what shit's

(01:24:45):
and giggle because it was funny whilewe were doing it on Twitter and you
were giving me like money for like, I don't know what are twenty something
year old women like, Oh Idon't know, but hoist lee. It
is what it is, and wehave lost the biggest foothold that we ever
had. The fact I tried notto get too angry about moments like these

(01:25:11):
because they work up my ire what'sPeter Griffin saying? It grinds my ears,
you know, you know, grindsmy gears. Everybody got a fucking
Logitech and turned into a professional domination, So that's what grinds my gears.
Everybody got a fucking iPhone AX andrealized that they could make a whole fucking
movie by the time The eleven cameout. That's what grinds my gears.

(01:25:31):
You know what really grinds my gearsthe fact that I have to see one
more grown ass man tell a grownass woman and convince her into get my
name somewhere on your body so peopleknow that you're my property and we're together
forevery ever. Amen. Uh No, I know three women right now inside
of three counties of me who haveand I bullshit you not, Daddy Dukes

(01:25:53):
tattooed under their ass cheeks with giganticfucking bows. Have no idea what that
fucking shit stands for. I thoughtit was a kid at the time that
got me a new tattoo. Hepaid for it. And everything you do,
you putpoo, you do you.I've been with my husband for sixteen
years. You know what? Igot a Batman tattoo? Nice? Well,

(01:26:15):
especially given you're a Marvel person.That's that's love. Yeah, that's
big that I have something on methat says DC forever. But the instability
of the fluctuating over the top toogoddamn much, knowing too goddamn little market

(01:26:35):
has officially put me on I'm goingto literally help every straight dog that comes
by my door. I can't bitchabout the garbage being on the fucking ground
if I wasn't willing to pick upthe garbage while I saw it on the
ground. Willie Murphy asked, Yes, damn near every fucking time. Probably.

(01:26:56):
But if it comes right down toit, if I make a couple
of good ones, all the funand bake fish were worth it. Let
y'all tummy asses be the fuck outthere in the sea. I know I
got a couple of good hitter quittersthat will absolutely make it in this industry,
and they don't have to be huge. I wasn't huge. I'm still
not huge. I'm appreciating that youkind of fan boid over me, But
like, it's you and maybe fiveother people on the fucking planet who aren't

(01:27:18):
trying to bang my goddamn brains outsomewhere in the back of their lizard brain.
So like I understand that, likeanybody can do what they want to,
I can walk up to my mayorand murder them right in front of
everybody in town. Will I goto jail for it? Yes? Will
I be known for doing something stupidabso fusolutely. But I did it and

(01:27:40):
I got away with it, Andthat's how it is now. It doesn't
matter if you know, it doesn'tmatter if you carry any weight behind your
words. It doesn't even matter ifyou went from rags to riches overnight.
It's just the fact that the opportunityhas become so open and so easy for
anybody to do now doing it.Remember Madonna and the goddamn Bras and course

(01:28:02):
it's on the outside. Mm hm. That was a decade of people like,
ooh, this is non ghost outcature, ready to wear. Put your
underwear on the outside. I feelso powerful, bitch. That was for
us, ball room was for us, slave was for us, and now

(01:28:27):
it's become so mainstream so anybody canattain it that It's like, you know,
when you were a kid, yousaid something like brad or cool and
then your parents try to do thesame damn thing and you're like, ah,
it doesn't have the appeel that itused to. Same diff And we
had a situation Dida Vontis, whohad come up from the BDSM scene and

(01:28:49):
the fetish scene, was dating MarilynManson and so the Hollywood haunts that they
would go to you know this,Suddenly the photographers that were that we're covering,
like covering Boardners or seven ninety sixy nine, they they would find

(01:29:14):
themselves like the paparazzi would come inand go, we'll take it from here.
We're the professionals, and they're like, no, this is our turf.
You're you're you're, you're here onyour you're here in our territory.
You know, you don't get topush us around because your mainstream We've been
covering. This has been our beatfor a very very long time, and

(01:29:38):
these people trust us. And that'sone of the things I'm afraid of.
I'm afraid of uh mainstream coming inand going, well, you you bdsummers
don't know what you're doing. Sowe're going to tell it. We're going
to educate people on BDSM and it'slike, it doesn't work like that.

(01:30:00):
This is our territory, this iswhat we cover. And yeah, it's
very frustrating to see that happen.And this is how we got Fifty Shades
of Gray, the book and thefucking ass movie. What you know what,
me Ma and your aunties and themneed they need five minutes to be
able to rub one out after theygo to see this movie or read this

(01:30:24):
damn book and hear the tampon scene. That's what they need. Because we're
going to now be your definition ofwhat kink is. It should absolutely be
I don't know, dumb bitches needinga whole goddamn car because they don't know
how to call a fucking uber.It means that you aren't really in the
kink. If you don't have ared room set up somewhere inside of your
house. It's not really kink unlessyou have somebody sign a contract with you.

(01:30:45):
It's not really BDSM unless you area multi millionaire. My favorite meme
that came out after that movie cameout was if Christian Gray lived in a
trailer park, this would be sexualassault and man. And it's just it's

(01:31:05):
true now, if not truer thanit was when that shit came out.
Somebody said, Hey, I knowwhat you want, even though we already
had people who were providing us withwhat we wanted. Hey, I have
a more confirmed, established, slightlymore sanitized version of what you already do.

(01:31:27):
Don't you want to try on thisoutfit? No? I don't.
I like my steaking ass corset thatI've worn fifteen times before I take it
to the goddamn cleaners. That's whatI want. Yeah. I get a
lot of requests to do interviews andbooks, and most of them I just
I don't even look at. Andthe one that finally really just burned me

(01:31:49):
mayfair nose which one I'm going toright now? Uh? This? Did
you know, miss Mia? Accordingto this author, who is clearly more
educated than I, that a BSMscene, first off, if it's a

(01:32:14):
man is the dominant, is itsabuse, So it can only be a
woman as a dominant. But secondly, the scene with her slave does not
end until the slave consumes their ownsemen. It doesn't matter if it's dried
up flaky in a cup on topof the TV for a month. Oh,

(01:32:38):
this scene is not over until theyconsume their own semen. Is this
the part where I'm supposed to saysomething? Don't get me wrong. You
can go straight to my officially amillion views plus now x videos profile and

(01:33:00):
watch me make a man do that. But also things to know. I
am six foot three and over twohundred pounds. I am bigger than my
father was when he was my ageI am bigger than almost every man in
my family, with the exception ofme. He also rest in peace,
my uncle Milton, and my notrest in peace uncle Ronnie. So if
I just beat the shit out ofyou, it don't count any of y'all.

(01:33:25):
Yeah, exactly, countless. Okay, what if they have ed and
they no longer have ejaculations. Youcould rub a prostate like it's a genie
inside of a lap. Don't meanshit gonna come out of the tiniest living
space in the world. Oh myGod, And the whole thing of it's

(01:33:49):
abusive. A man's doing it toa woman. Then how come y'all cool
with the Bible because that motherfucker saysthat wearing mixed textiles, or my husband
just don't like her because reasons,and she might be a witch. If
somebody gets to pull out a stickthick is his thumb and beat the ship
out of that, don't count.I love how BDSM has slowly become its
own version of the Bible. Peoplepick out the parts they like the most

(01:34:11):
and turn it into the entirety ofthe conversation. Right, that book was
I said it. I said it. I said it. I said it
as a Southerner as a Christian andsomeone who prays over almost every meal that
goes inside of my mouth, becauseI've had a couple come out of a
goddamn garbage, can kiss my ass. If you can't understand that what you're
into is what you're into, andwhat other people are into is what they're

(01:34:33):
into and be okay with that,You're never going to be okay with the
world. You're never going to beokay with with your life, You're never
going to be okay with yourself.And that is just a fact, right
right, It's it's that's something we'dsay all the time on here. It's
your BDSM, you make it yours. Just you know, there's there's a

(01:34:54):
million in one way, is thispeople? Yeah? And for rocket science,
we're asking for coll In sense.There are ways to do things right,
but there's more than one way todo just about everything right, and
there's a whole lot of ways todo things wrong. And that's our thing
is trying to get those out thereand that kind of stuff. But Jay,

(01:35:15):
you said that, and I mayhave missed that earlier. You had
something else to add on mentorship.Yeah, we had a guy out here
in California named Robin Roberts, andif the name sounds familiar, he was
the founder of Backdrop Club, oneof the first BDSM clubs in the California

(01:35:35):
scene, going way, way,way back, and Robin had a military
background. I'm not going to outthat, but Roberts was a legend when
I was in the scene, andhe was one of the backers of Fantasy
Makers, which was run by Laurette. Lurette was the sub and one day

(01:35:58):
early in the relationship ship, theywere talking about discipline and Laurette was really
kind of scared of discipline. Andhe's like, okay, well when I
say discipline, what do you thinkof she goes pain. You know you

(01:36:19):
have to be in punishment. AndRoberts say, is like, discipline is
not punishment. Discipline is structured.You know, you set up structures,
you set up discipline. You knowyou can have self discipline when you wake
up, you make your bed,when you go into a conversation, you
have an amount of politeness. Disciplineis essential because structure is necessary in order

(01:36:44):
for us to exist and have progress, and that kind of comes into things
with mentorship. You need to beable to set up structures to where not
only can the group move forward,but people can have self discipline and they
understand they have peers. They canlook at what's going on and go,

(01:37:11):
Okay, this is how I shouldbe behaving, this is how I should
be acting. This is what wecan do when this happens and I need
to bring up I have a personalconflict that I see both from business and
the scene a lot, which isleadership versus authority. We see this in

(01:37:32):
politics, We see this in business, we see this in the politics of
the leather scene. Authority is essentiallywhen you're like, I'm in command,
I'm in charge. Authority does notnecessarily have to have experience. Authority just

(01:37:56):
basically tends to be bossy, whereasleadership. They leadership requires more influence,
it requires more doing the work,more involved with unit integrity. And so

(01:38:17):
there was a saying I picked up. I'm trying to remember the exact part.
But essentially, in an environment likea social environment, a work environment,
a kink environment, the rules andsuch that is the job of authority.

(01:38:38):
These are the rules. These arehow we came about the rules.
We have to enforce the rules.This is why these rules exist. Influence
comes from your peers. It's onething to have a rule and a DM

(01:39:00):
go this is against the rules.But it's another thing to have your peer
come up and go, you can'tdo that. We're going to get in
trouble if you do that. Andthat's where that's part of what we need.
We need people to be able toWe need people to instead of say

(01:39:26):
this is the way it is becauseI say so, and be able to
go, hey, this is whatkeeps us going. This is what keeps
us in business. This is whatkeeps the doors open. Are these rules?
These rules are there for a reason. These rules impact you, me
and the other people here at theclub. Yeah, and that's something that

(01:39:51):
we just I hate that it's goingthe way that it's going if you try
to give somebody advice, especially atmy age, and the way that the
way that my voice twangs and howI look because basically what I'm saying is

(01:40:15):
because I'm a middle aged sister,gender white man, I get shut up,
boomer, you know what do youknow? You know? Okay,
Grandpa, And it's like, uh, okay, you do you. I'm
gonna be over here at this otherplace because I know what's about to happen

(01:40:38):
here, and it's not gonna begood, and I don't want any part
of it. Yeah, but allright, so we're running, well,
god, we're running over on timehere. I apologize for that. It's
just I've enjoyed it so much.I hope everybody else has too. Do
you miss me? Do you?I know you said you take on just

(01:41:02):
about anybody who comes along at oryou help them anybody that's asked. I
try to because you are a busywoman. I'm assuming someone is remembering me
and why I have the reason formy particular season, which I have no

(01:41:24):
problem with. I have been tolda lot over the years that like,
oh, you're going to teach somelittle thing and she's gonna come and steal
all your clients. Let her clientsare free range fucking chickens. They do
not stay at one roost. Ohshe's a poacher. Yeah, And with

(01:41:45):
that whole thing of like people lookat you a certain way because of a
certain way that you look. I'mold, i'm brown, and I'm a
lady. So I might not getokay Boomer, but I will get a
whole lot of you know, she'sjust angry. That's why she does this.
She just likes hitting on white menfor money. I sure the fuck

(01:42:08):
do like hitting on a white man, like hitting on black men, like
hitting on age man, like hittingall Hispanic men. I like hitting on
all the men, and they'll letme hit them. I am also very
big on petting puppies, arguing withswans and geese, which is something I

(01:42:30):
did the other day. But that'sa completely different show. There's lots of
things that I do and that Idon't do. If it is your cup
of tea, by all means,pull on up for a cup. But
if it's not, nobody told youstop this damn Starbucks. Take your ass
on somewhere else. Apparently you wantthe central perk over there at friends Land.
I'm not that person. You're hereto accommodate me, and I am

(01:42:54):
here to accommodate you to a point. We are both here to accommodate each
other to a point. This isgonna come just straight through. Like you
couldn't possibly know anything about latex becauseI don't wear it. I couldn't possibly
know anything about leather because I'm nota title holder and I don't run in
the leather crowd. I just couldn'tbecause you know, I don't have that

(01:43:17):
aesthetic. So I asked someone realquick, what do you think it is
that I do do? Nothting shutssome motherfucker up quite like not being able
to answer a fucking question. AndI did a lot of that. Yeah,

(01:43:43):
So do you do you do anyold school official mentorships? Yes?
I do. I found the easiestway for me to clear the clutter of
people who want to consume my timemake pay for it. Just like clients.
If you wanted to learn how tobecome a microbiologist, you have to

(01:44:04):
take your ass to college. Right, That's not something you learn out the
door at high school. You payfor the privilege of knowledge. I am
a fountain of information. Please feelfree to take a sip, and when
you leave, much like church,tip it titholate. Right. Okay,
all right, So I think thatwas the last thing that I had.

(01:44:27):
Yeah, Uh, what do youhave coming up? What anything that you
want to promote? You have apublicist, so uh try to tell you
get the work day. Yeah,I'm glad you. Ah, well,

(01:44:49):
my dad, it's quite the pleasure. Well, what we have coming up
next is going to be next week? Uh, Jay will actually be there.
You're going in Tuesday, right,that's the place. Okay Jay is
going in Tuesday. I will bethere. Wednesday, we are going to
be at the Adult Video Network Expoand Awards. I will not be going
their Attendity Awards show because I don'thave that kind of money for that kind

(01:45:10):
of taket to see the same peopleI see, but make it in my
lap every day for free. Iknow that we will be helping Mistress Cyan
host The Layer, which we areso happy for it to be back.
We haven't seen The Layer since twentytwenty at the hard Rock. We're under
new management for the actual ABN event, so we're gonna see how this goes.

(01:45:34):
They're having it at the big,old, fancy, six hundred dollars
a night hotel of Resorts Worth World, because we got three whole hotels stuck
inside of one place. One biggiant spinning ball that looks like a fevered
dream of fucking Philip J. FryOff for Futurama. Yeah, it's it's
it's amazing, but like it wascool looking at it from the top,

(01:45:56):
but once you get on the groundlevel with it and you see it,
and it's like a big emoji blinkingsmiling face with water falling over it that
you can blatantly see. But there'san image on top of it, and
my brain was just like, oh, uncanny Valley, stop it, stop
it, stop it. I didn'tneed as much technology this fast. But
yeah, we're gonna go out thereand hang out with the famous sexy naked
people and show them our version offamous sexy naked or semi nick not nagked

(01:46:21):
as naked as it used to be. I see that they change the rule
for like thongs and whatnot. Youhave to have a full cover panty now.
You not allowed to wear pasts anymore. You have to wear like an
actual like tankini or some kind ofa top that holds the girls in.
You gotta cover the crack of yourass. If you're a boy who thought
you were going to be hanging outand you're Marco, Marco shorts for the

(01:46:43):
weekend. But yeah, I'm reallylooking forward to it. After that,
I'm going to be going the lastweek of February for my own personal thing,
which is going to be fem domeEvant's a group that I have been
helping to co chair with my bigsister from another mister Madam Navia o'kink.
We're gonna be doing that down inTexas. It is the tenth anniversary Black

(01:47:04):
Heart Story Femdom boot Camp. That'swhere then Sergeant me a dark tank tops
came from. Because I'm about whippyinto shape, but I want to scare
you a little bit first. Soif I'm up here with this tank top
on looking like I'm about to beabout business, and I got these shorts
on and they are in camo,unless you thought yourself a deer this year,

(01:47:26):
bear hop to it all right.And if somebody wants to get in
touch with you, it's the bestway to do at your website, or
best way to contact with me isthrough just sayread dot com. You can
go through my contact list and eithersend a like an actual message, or
you can if you'd like to becomeone of the brave in the Bowl,

(01:47:48):
you can fill out my vetting forum. We can have more conversations about sessions
and whatnot. For the party inDallas. It's actually Femdom Events dot com.
You can message us through there orthrough the email at femdom Evans at
gmail dot com. My favorite thingis dot com it just sounds like when
we all chopped off the WWW.I'm like, fuck that, I'm forty

(01:48:09):
five this year, I'm leaving thatmotherfucker on like an appendix. But Yeah,
we throw a pretty good party.It's going to be a two day
event, Friday and Sunday. Friday, we're going to have our boot camp,
which is for our medium, intermediateto heavy players. Sunday we're going

(01:48:33):
to have our FD Brunch, whichis for those who are more about service
than the actual pain that can comewith servitude, and folks get to have
a fud of serving us brunch.All foods will be catered by yours truly.
When Jay was talking about how Iwould do the food at dom Coon

(01:48:55):
to feed the volunteers, That's somethingI've been doing every year since I want
to say twenty one. Uh.And I put on a pretty decent spread
for it to be made inside ofa hotel room because jail Taya. I
did a whole sushi, a wholesushi bar, sushi and poka. I
just thought about that. Uh.We had tuna, we had grilled tuna.

(01:49:18):
I did a VIP social where wehad try tip and stuffed mushrooms,
red wine, brays lamb chops.Yeah, I go hard, I goree.
I'm hungry now. Yeah, I'llfeed you first, then we can
go ahead and talk about all thehorrible things I'm gonna do to you to
make you read before we started.Do you do you ever team up?

(01:49:41):
Do you co top? Do you? Uh? I loved the ko top.
I love double sessions, especially withmy sisters from other misters. I
will constantly say I have a millionsisters, I legally only have two that
are living. One of them,I will deal with that bitch. The
other one I deal with her asmuch as I possibly can. Uh.
But yeah, my dom sisters arethe shit. Mistress Ms Madison out in

(01:50:05):
Las Vegas. She'll be also withus at a v N say she doesn't
have to do anything. It's everdrive a couple miles away from her house.
Uh, Madam Navii A King downin Dallas, Texas. Goddess v
Lou down in Dallas, Goddess Kayaover in Houston, Texas. Those are
my favorites to when we interact witheach other, it's one of those you

(01:50:27):
play off of each other kind ofthings, like who's going to be the
mean girl in this particular situation becausesomehow I always end up being the mean
one, even though technically everyone saysI'm the nicest one out of the group.
It's always one the last one wegot to watch out for. Yeah,
isn't enough. We'll give you cookiesand then we give you spankings and
then everybody goes home and watches StarWars. Nice. All right, Jay,

(01:50:53):
Fetish Artist, Is there anything elsethat you need to You want to
promote anything you've got coming up?You want to throw out, I should
point out Winter Fire over. Iwant to say Maryland area is coming up.
I believe that's going to be theweekend of the twenty seventh big thing

(01:51:15):
from Dark Odyssey. Of course,you can catch myself Mia, Mistress Cyan
over at Layer at a v Nthis upcoming weekend, Mistress Cyan will be
hosting the What they've done is Cianais going to be hosting the Layer section

(01:51:36):
with Sanctuary the dom Kon crew,bringing in her friends and vendors at that
zone. Plus on Friday, Miamyself Cyan will be at the big official
AVN Fetish after party. That willbe the Layer Fetish Party. I don't

(01:52:01):
have the address on hand. Thatwill be at a different location, but
that will be Friday night, thetwenty six, January twenty six. Okay,
can you took the Layer through ventbright to purchase the tickets for AVN
and you can look through Sanctuary dotcom to pick up the actual ticket for

(01:52:23):
the after party. Uh, sanctuarylaxdot com. Oh, Sanctuary lax dot
com. I'm sorry, but thatis going to be your only way to
get these tickets, and they aregoing very quickly because once Las Vegas found
out that we were going to bethe Layer again instead of just hanging out
in our own little rectangular square justiceinside of the village, We're coming back

(01:52:47):
stronger, better than ever. Icannot freaking wait to see our vendors.
I know that I personally have twot shirts, a tank top, and
three paddles that are going to meetme in love me because I've already started
buying ship. Bad Cat says winterFire will be in DC this year.

(01:53:12):
Yeah. By the way, Itried posting Sanctuary la x dot com to
the chat and YouTube is not lettingme. Yeah. I even tried spreading
it out. It just does notlike that name at all. No,
no, no, it won't.It knows Uh. And if there's anybody
out there that loves me so somuch that they want to send me out
there to talk to people, buyme some plane tickets and tickets to the

(01:53:38):
show. Uh, producers, jumpon that. Get in touch with me,
do master Cauldron at gmail dot com. That is down below, and
we can arrange how to get thatstuff taken care of too, because you
know, if you don't ask,you can't receive. All right, Well,

(01:53:59):
that better wrap us up. Workedlike two hours in. I am
so so grateful. Is the showusually normally an hour and a half.
Oh my god, this is likethe fourth show I've done this too.
Oh no, I love it.I've gone one time. I went three
hours with with Gear, Reverend Gearhere though Gear, Praise him, praise

(01:54:24):
him. Praised Gear, And wewere talking about CBT and yeah, hotcages
and it was probably one of thefunniest shows that I've had in seven years.
And over half a million listens justthe podcast alone. Nice. Yeah,

(01:54:44):
I get like ten thousand per episodeper month. I want to find
out what the numbers are for thisafter it's been out for a second.
I'll let you know, all right, And if you can't, if you
forget the links whatever. Uh goto coldrosscript dot com slash five two one

(01:55:05):
and which that link will be inthis description and in the show notes for
the audio only version of the podcastand everything that we've talked about here.
Uh, sanctuary lax, all thoselinks just say read We'll be there on
my website in the show notes,the actual show notes for this, so

(01:55:25):
be sure to check that out,and lots of other fun links too that
you might want to check out.All right, that's gonna wrap us up.
Unlet's Mayfair. I hadn't offered youa chance any last thing. Any
I've popped in a couple of times. It's okay, okay, all right,
Well in that case, let's rideon out of here into the sunset.

(01:55:45):
This has been master Cauldron and Mayfairand a chartist. Akaj we did
you did the thing. You didthe thing for caldronscript dot com Unearth the
Truth. Bye everybody,

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