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February 26, 2024 • 47 mins
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Today's discussion is a mix of current stuff and some bigfoot drama on facebook.
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Ah, yes, Welcome to theKentucky X Files Season four. Young Masters.
Dennis Mays, Just Gibbs, andTyler Stewart are expecting you if you
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channel, Spotify or wherever you getyour podcasts. Also visit us at www
dot ky x files dot com.I now leave you to the Young Masters.

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H but then I'm like, I'llmove my microphone. Oh yeah,
well, welcome back ads to yourKentucky X Files. Who ohh what about

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wow? Yeah? Wow? Yeah, yeah we forgot we need the applause.
Oh yeah, damn, I don'tthink. I don't think they have

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that today we've been Yeah, Idon't know. They don't got that fucking
fucking stream yard. Like cut mylegs off there, I'd buy that fucking
the podcast. They get to belike stream yards, like we got you
man, you don't need that anymore? Like fuck are you talking about the

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Yeah, the road caster. Yeahthat's been sitting there just looking pretty Yeah,
well use it. We use itlike if we can actually do a
campfire episode this season. Hell yeah, that'd always always a use for it.

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But I just thought it's like suckthat we just turned around and use
this. It's like, shit,this is thanks thanks stream Yard. It's
just so convenient, like we don'tactually have to get together and that saves
hours, Like I would I wouldventure to say this saves like five to
six hours an episode by being ableto do it this way. Wouldn't you

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do any probably? I mean,I mean, you think about it.
As soon as we get together.The first thing we're gonna do is just
like we did today, We fuckingbullshitted for twenty five minutes, no easy,
and then we're like, oh crap, we should star because we're already
talking about this shit we're gonna talkabout, and then he's like, we
need to hit record. The onlydifference being in person is usually, uh,

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there's it's like a couple of hoursof bullshitting first, yeah, exactly,
beers come out, and then yeah, we're talking about stuff that could
never be shown yeah or heard byyou guys out there. Then we gotta
we also have to talk off thebeer because you know, you guys have

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to drive home eventually, you know. Yeah. So I mean it's at
least five to six hours more anepisode to do it in person than it
is to just hop on a Sundaymorning and yeah, in front of the
computer for you know, two hours. You want to know something too,
like how professional we are now?We have not had one of those types
of episodes since then. We hadone and we were done. We have

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an episode that has not seen thelight of day. Will it never will?
Maybe? I uh, I wantto believe. I really do want
to believe that it's our our ethicthat stopped that from happening, But it's
most likely just because it's stream yard. I was. I was pretty toasted

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on the finale though. The finaleOkay, yeah, that is right,
but that's a celebration. It was. I was celebrating like crazy. Yeah.
Somebody came up to me and saidlike, hey, you never put
the other parts of the live finaleout, and I'm like, what live

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finale? And then you know,it came back to me and I'm like,
oh, ship, I didn't,So I'm gonna have to stick that
up there. It was divided intolike three parts because it was like four
hours long. I did part oneand then we went on our month long
hiatus and I completely oh so likethe whole thing where there's a like eight

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people in the thing never made itto the light of day. No,
I'm a bad listener. I didn'teven notice. Yeah, it's like,
if you go to the YouTube,you can you can go to the live
shit, and you can click onit and you can watch the rest of
that. But okay, so yeah, I thought I saw that. I
watched the live or at least partof it. Yeah, I watched the
live. Oh shit, I justI forgot to put out the other like

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parts to it. I think Ineed to get subscribe to our channel so
I get no vacations. Dude,Oh man, if you subscribe, is
that going to put us over theedge? Tyler? Are you the two
thousand subscriber? Are we even atthat right now? Last time, I

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luck, I don't know. Ohyeah, uh one yeah, one point?
Wow, we hit it. Didyou just script subscribe? Ah?
You really put me on the spothere. You kind of destroyed my joke.
I was already subscribed, so nowyou now the viewers say, I'm

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a liar. Now I'm paying asa liar. Now you could have just
keep running with it. I shouldhave, but I felt like that would
be that would be cap Yep.No, we're getting with the times.
No, no, we're not.Yeah, so we're sitting at one point

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nine to nine k, like we'realmost a two thousand subs. There's gotta
be some motherfucker listening to this.That's like, I'll go fucking subscribe.
I'll put them in two thousand.I'll be a number two thousand. We
needed somebody needs to jump on there. One of you listeners that's not subscribed,
or one of you listeners that arelistening on one of the other platforms,

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jump over the YouTube and help usout. Just subscribe. It's all
odd numbers, and I can't standthe fact that it's all odd numbers,
you know, And it's funny,like it seems like podcasting doesn't translate very
well to YouTube. No, itdoesn't get the what do you call it?

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Listen, Joe Rogan, we gotto get over there and and be
like top ten things that you don'twant to say on your podcast. Oh
yeah, and then then people becausethey pour in poor in for that.
Yeah yeah, yeah. We gottabe a list channel. We got a
list and react. So what wegotta do is we got to play a

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video that you can barely see becauseof our big dumb faces in a way.
Yeah, I hate that, Ireally do. I hate that.
Like if I'm watching something, ifI'm flipping through reels or shorts or something,
and all of a sudden, Isee like a video I'm interested in,
but somebody's like cropped out dumb faceright in front of it. Like,
I don't need to see your facialexpressions. If I want to know
what somebody's facial reaction is, I'lllook into the mirror while I'm watching it.

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Yeah, you know, because Idon't care what you think about it.
I don't why do you? Andthat's just lazy work. You know,
that's creating content by just going oversomebody else's work. I feel like
somebody like it's a thing, likepeople like it because, oh sure,

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there's so many react channels. Idon't know how. I don't know how
many of the like people that areinto like hip hop and rap that don't
listen to metal music, those arelike huge, dude, Okay, so
let's talk about that for a second. All right. I've seen one the
other day that it was so andso reacts and it's the first time they

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ever heard queen you lying, motherfucker. That doesn't happen. It's twenty twenty
four. You've heard Queen. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like
you can't not hear them at thispoint, right, Yeah, someone says
Queen, there's like four riffs thatjust instantly go through my head. And

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plus like that's the same thing withthe like movies, Like, dude,
Queen has been in movies. Therewas a movie about Queen. Well,
yeah, that. But they've usedtheir music throughout like cinema. Yeah,
And they've been on every rocks ofany kind ever. They've been on current

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rock stations, classic rock stations,old these rock stations. You know,
they've been all over the background ofYouTube, all over the background of you
know, movies and TV shows.You know, they're every fucking sporting event.
That's true. Yeah, you knowwhat I mean, Like yeah,

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yeah, you don't don't tell methat you're reacting to the first time you've
ever heard Queen that come off thatship. Yeah, Like if if you
wanted to be like this is thefirst I've heard Strawberry alarm clock yeah,
or gg Allen, you know,like, okay, I'll buy that fucking
Queen and anybody, right, youwrite a song about this. But he

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wrote a song about his bicycle,right, who does who writes the song
about their bicycle? I want toBride my bike and frame Murky wanted to
do a lot of stuff because hewanted to break free too. Yeah,
yeah he was. I don't thinkhe was a fan of the genres like

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he he wasn't really a fan ofyou know, this is what we have
to do, right right, yeah, because I mean I Want to break
Free is very different from Stone ColdCrazy, Yeah, like very different or
another one bites the Dust dude,it was. I mean it's a disco
song. Yeah, Killer Queen,Killer Queen, hell yeah the Queen.

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Yeah yeah, so yeah, picka different band to tell me you've never
heard him before, even like theguys that react to the first time here
in Metallica, Like unless you're likean embryo, I find that hard to
believe. Yeah I was. Iwent to metal show. Oh yeah,

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tell us about this. We wentto a metal show, uh, Friday
night. It was. It waslocal metal show, all death metal bands,
not deathcore, not metal core,just death metal bands. And they
were all local and I'll be honestwith you, it warmed. It warmed
my heart. You know. Itwas very very cool and uh, we

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went to see my wife's best friend'sson, Gauge. His band's called Blood
Clot And you know, I wantto take this. I want to take
a second and say, anybody outthere listening right now, say you're eighteen
to thirty years old, are youa drummer? Do you like death metal?

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This band needs a drummer bad.They went up there with a backing
drum track on stage in front ofa packed place, and they brought the
goddamn place down with a drum track, right And I'm sitting there and I'll
be honest with you when I whenI I didn't know that until right before

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they went up because they backlined acouple of things up there, you know,
some ambs, a little bit ofa drum kid all this, and
I kept making a comment, I'mlike, Jesus Christ, are they making
them haul every single one of thesedrum kids up and down the stage?
You know? And they were tellingme, They're like, oh, they

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don't have a drummer, and I'mlike, they don't have a drummer,
what how's this going to work?And they were like, well, they
have a track where they programmed alltheir drums and then they played to it,
and I'm like, oh boy,So I got a little bit of
a bad, like gut feeling,like, oh now, how's this going
to go? You know what Imean. And the boys came out on

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stage and they plugged in, theyset up, they tuned, you know,
and they had their little thing onthem and they hit it, you
know, and the sound guy gotthe drums sounding, you know, pretty
good in the speakers, you know, and they just want two four boom
and they're just in and I'm watchingthem and I'm thinking, Jesus, that's

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hunger. That's somebody who's hungry forit. And for those of you guys
out there that might not be musicians, if you're in a local scene and
you're trying to jam, you're tryingto go and do this, there is
a difference between someone who has thedrive and someone who does not. And
I will say, going up therewith a fucking drum backing track says a

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lot. Yeah, it says thatI don't give a fuck about our stepbacks.
We're going up here to throw down. And they fucking did well.
Not only that, I mean thinkabout the talent at that point. I
mean, the drum machine's gonna beperfect every time. Yeah, you know,
they never they never missed. Iwas watching them like we guys know

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how I am. I was watchingthem like a fucking hawk. I was
watching their fingers, I was watchingtheir hits. I was watching everything and
every the guitar players, Gauge andthe other boy. I didn't get to
meet him. I didn't see himwhen when it was all done. But
those two guys in the bassis,we're just on point. The new singer

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they just got he sounds like corpsegrinder nice and I am not even kidding.
This kid nails it. He killedit, killed it. I got
to talk to him for a minute, and I got to talk to Gauge
himself for a minute, and Yeah, anybody gets a chance in this area
to get out there and see bloodCloud play, you really should. If

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you want to see some boys thattruly want it bad, and if you're
a drummer and you're looking for aman that's not fucking around, please please
reach out to the show here andI will put you in contact with them,
because I want to see these guyswith a drummer. I made the
comment to Gauge and his singer whenwe were there. I said, boys,

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I'm going to start working on findingyour drummer. I think I might
have one lined up. I don'tknow. I'm going to talk to him
hopefully this week. And I said, if you guys went up there that
they had the crowd, the crowdwas going ape shit for these guys,
I said, if you've got thiskind of reaction with a backing track,

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they're going to need ambulances to getpeople out of here when there's a drummer
up there. It's awesome. Yeah, it was. It was really cool.
It warmed my heart. And thescene is very much alive, very
much alive, and that that mademe feel really good too. They had,
uh it was like ten dollars atthe door and people were just coming,

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just coming through the door, justcoming through the door. Uh.
Seeing the mosh pits go that wasawesome. You know, these kids out
there just throwing you know, throwingship And then in true true metal form,
a guy falls down. Five guyspick him up, yeah, and

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dust him off, getting back upagain, and they're back in it.
And I mashpit etiquette. Mash pitetiquette is a real thing. It is,
and I'm glad to see that it'sstanding up because there for a while
it was ever remained for herself knockingpeople down her ship. Yeah, and
I'm glad to hear that there that'scoming back. It was very cool,
very very cool. I had toexplain the mashped a little bit to my

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own kids because they've never been inone, you know, and they were
like, that seems kind of crazy. You know, these guys are out
there just beating the crap out ofeach other. You know, why do
they want to hurt each other?And I was like, yeah, you
got to understand it. You're ayounger guy, you're growing up. You're
in this group full of your yourkindred spirits, and all of you are

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frustrated about something, something in lifeis not working for you. You got
one place where there's loud ass musicgoing and it's basically telling you it's okay
to let loose right now, gofor it. Just turn it leaves,
dude, let it out. Andat the end, man, they're all
patting each other on the packs,either hugging, they're they're laughing. It's

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it's a it's a beautiful thing tosee, you know. Yeah, yeah,
it could be scared to bystanders bystandersI don't understand. Yeah, the
people that don't understand, I'll tellyou almost too. It's like that's the
only place where metal heads can actuallyfeel like themselves too, because you think,
like if you were if you grewup before us in you know,

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the the eighties, where you werein high school in the eighties, then
you know, you had all kindsof people that were into metal music,
and you know, it was itwas a different scene, so it was
really popular then. But like inour era and newer or younger, you
know, it's diluted. Like youmight be the one of five metal heads

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in your class or something, youknow, or in your in your neighborhood,
and you know, and then yougo to one of these metal shows
and there's thousands of you, thousandsof like minded people, you know,
some people even wearing the same shirtas you, and shit, you know,
and it's like I'm home. Imean, that's how I always felt,

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you know, because I grew upout here in the country, and
I was a very odd duck kindof where I was sitting being a metal
head. You know. Luckily,luckily Dave moved in down the road,
so I had that you know,yeah, but for the most part,
like him and I were really theonly metal heads in the area. Everybody
would listen to some Metallica on theradio or something, your bro metal stuff,

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but like him and I were theonly ones that were jamming, like
to Napalm record stuff, you know. And then you go to a show
and you're like, there's more ofus and they're all around here, Like
where the fuck did all these peoplecome from? You know? You see
fifteen thousand people in black T shirtsin August, you know. I mean
when me and Tyler were meeting youguys at the Mastadon show and Gajira,

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we were walking through and we're like, yeah, I wonder where them guys
are, and we made the joke. We're like, well, we'll just
we'll just look for the bearded guyswearing black. And we were kind of
laughing about it because we're like lookinglike we might need to narrow this down
a little bit, right, Iknow, I was saying, though,
man, is is that we reallydo? Like if all of us go

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to a metal show, we dowe just like vanish into the crowd,
like you just can't tell who's whoanymore. Yeah, you become the gray
Man. Yeah, I was.I was really impressed that you met up
with Bill, like he found youguys before me. I thought that was
really cool. That ship was hilarious. But I did give a very good
description. Yeah, Bill, Andfor the listeners, the Bill is a

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significant person for for Rector. Yeah, he's he's he's our artist. Yeah,
so he's done all the art forthe Rector stuff. But yeah,
what did I say? He waslike a tall GAMBLI yeah, yeah,
he came right up to us.Yeah, he's like, you guys,
you must be Danny and Tyler.Me and Tyler like, yes, we

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must be. Yeah. I thoughtit was pretty funny when our buddy Derek
came running through and he's like,fucking Wrector. Oh, oh my god,
dude, this DUDEO. Yeah.I actually thought i'd run into him
Friday night, but I didn't.I really I thought he would be there.
But yeah, I know he getsthat. He gets out there.

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Man, he supports, but Iuh, he's big. He can't he
can't beat all of them. Iguess, you know, right, Or
he was probably there and I justdidn't see him because of the blending into
the you know, right, longhair and black clothes. Yeah. Yeah,
but I wanted to make sure Isaid something about that on this episode
because it was it was really fuckingcool. And uh I told Gage,

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I was like, I'm so fuckingproud of you, holy shit, Like
I can't I can't say it enough. Yeah, dude, coming from my
background, you know, Like I'msitting there watching him and I'm like,
I know exactly what he feels rightnow. Yeah, you know, And
he was killing it, man,he was fucking killing it. And he

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was he's fast as shit, likehe got fast. And I don't know,
man, I've I've seen a lotof the I've seen a lot of
the scene. Yeah, I sawa lot of it. I saw enough
of it to give me a badtaste in my mouth. But to see
if your death metal show just popup like that and see the amount of

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support that came out for that show, awesome. Yeah, you guys out
there that came to that show andwe're playing in that show. Keep doing
what you're doing. Man, You'rethe only fucking hope. Yeah. Awesome.
Yeah, And I mean it's thereis an underground scene that's still hanging
on. Yeah, I sent youguys that video. Those were kids from

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the same high school as my kid, you know, and they're American hardcore
punk. And I'm watching this andit's you know, it's a two piece
band, no bass player, justa guy playing guitar and singing and a
drummer. And I'm like, allright, there's like three people right at
the front of the stage, likethese guys are playing like there's a thousand
people here. And then the camerapans and there's like sixty kids in this

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fucking underground club. Yeah, andI'm like, what the hell. That's
what it was like Friday night.It was like so awesome, man.
I know that that second room atthe Revival House. I know that they
had to be a capacity at leastfor a while, you know, because
it was now the second room.Is that the smaller one, Yes,
okay, that's the one that's upstairsupstack. Yeah, Okay, that's pretty

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cool man. My only regret wasI didn't really know what to expect,
you know, going to it.I didn't know what it was going to
be. I really feel like Ishould have have like aggravated you guys to
be there to come to it.I should have. I regret that I
should have sat there and aggravated,you like, come on, dude,
come down, you know what Imean. I just didn't know what to
expect, And when I got there, I was like, okay, all

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right, So I was like,next time, I'm gonna try to talk
everybody into going because it was itwas really it was worth the ten bucks
at the door. Man. Itwas fun. That's awesome. Yeah.
It may sounded good, all ofthem, all the bands that play it
sounded fucking great. They sounded theywere doing it. Man. Yeah,
I recognized that there was a therewas one from Monster Piece. Uh,

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I can't remember the name of them. Yeah. The bass player has like
a it looks like a Fender Jaguarbass but it's a six string. Well,
oh, blood something yeah, bloodGate, blood Gate. Yeah.
I think they might have changed theirname because I don't know. I didn't

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see blood Gate on the bill Isaw. I think they called themselves Dissected
Remains at this bill. Okay,that's pretty cool. I mean they might
have had a lineup change or something. Maybe they you know, yeah,
maybe the bass player switch bands orsomething. Oh yeah, I didn't think
of that. Yeah, that's that'sprobably likely. Yeah, they sounded great,
they were they killing it. Theyhad like a punk metal kind of

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feel to him. Was there avery large bald drummer. No, No,
he's like then the bass player switchbands. Okay, yeah, because
that's they had the Was it like, was it Napalm Deaf that had the
really large bald drummer that like movedway too fast for his appearance? I

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think so, yeah, Yeah,that's who reminded me of. That's what
he played. He was the bassplayer that was kind of large and what
Okay, then I'm thinking a differentband then, because he had the hair
like the guy what the hecks?That one? Uh the one Grudge band

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had that big like hair. Itmight be it might be the Muse drummer
that I'm thinking of. It mightbe them, because one of them,
the drummer was just he was avery large man and he bawled and he
was one of those drummers where likehis shoulders wouldn't move, but his forums
would and it was like flying throughthe toms. You know. It seems

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like, uh yeah, I'm lookinglooking it up here, it looks like
Cradle of Filth drummer Nick Nicholas Barker. Did he retire? This is a
big dude, and it looks likehe had kidney failure. Oh that's no
good. Yeah, no, it'sthem. Yeah. He was in Nicholas

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Barker. He was in Demu.Yeah also awesome. Yeah yeah. I
I totally told uh. Gage saidthat when the time comes. Uh.
I was like, yeah, youguys. I was like, when we're
when we're ready to do it.I was like, you need to stick
rector and on one of these billswith you guys. And he's like he

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literally had no idea. He's likewait what. I'm like, hey man,
we're putting together, we're working onit, we're trying to fine tune
it. You know. It waslike but I was like, I really
feel like you boys will appreciate someof these riffs, you know. And
he's like like, dude, I'mlike yeah yeah. I was like,
you just got to go easy,honest, you know, and help us

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load in and stuff, because youknow, we're we're senior citizens. Yeah.
That's the worst part now, youknow. It was. I was
in my twenties rolling in a fullstack like mine and the other guitar players,
and then you know, a Nambigfour ten and then all that,
you know, sixteen piece drum seta big deal, you know, but
now it's like, yeah's heavy.Cat's best friend Vicky. She goes that

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need doesn't make you feel old.I'm like, yes it does. And
she's like she's like, yeah,that was you. That was what you
did, you know, And Iwas like yeah, I was like fucking
I was a. Gage's sister wasthere, and she's like, why do
you feel old? You're not oldall this. I'm like, well,
you see all that stuff that theygot up on stage there. She's like
yeah, I'm like, see that'sa young man's game. That's a younger

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man's game right there. Loading loadingall that stuff in is where that would
be right about where. I'm like, I fucking I feel it. Yeah,
yeah, that's that's where. Andif you're like hosting the show and
you're bringing the PA, that's ofcourse, Oh yeah, that's what I'm
looking at in this room right here, it's like you might as well tell
me I got to sell my houseand move, you know, if I've

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got to empty this room, it'sthe you know at that point, you
know what I mean, go todo the show and you just never come
back. I just live. Ilive here. Now, guys, I'll
just buy new ship haven't delivered tothe house. You to hire a local
moving company just to put your shipin and out of your house into the

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show. Yeah, it's like I'llpay you an extra if you just you
just stay there or come back laterand then pick the ship up. Yeah.
I had a questionable ethic back thenwhen it came to the live thing
too. Like I loved playing live, I just hated the load in and

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load out. Yeah, so youwould know as I went, man,
my my setups got more and moresimple, you know, and I just
I started cutting out stuff and I'myou know, okay. So the other
thing too, is like you startrealizing why some of the older cats that
would play like the Blue shows wouldshow up with a Fender twin combo.

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Yeah did you do that? Ijust did. Yeah did he freeze?
I don't know. It sure lookslike froze, but yeah, you know,
it's like you understand why those guysare like because it was easier.
Yeah, a super super light Fenderstratocaster one single chord and a one twelve

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combo, and they're like, makethe PA do the work. They're way
ahead of the fucking yeah. Yeah, you know, because yeah, man,
it was a good time. Iwish very happy. I wish I
would knew ahead of time. Man, I would have loved to go to

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a show that wasn't you know,yeah, a national act. I haven't
been to. I haven't been toa show in a while. I know
one of the one of the guestswrite he wrote a letter onto the show
is also a musician, and he'sbeen after me about trying to get on
and uh come to a show.And it's like every time he plans a
show, is something has happened.Then there's amazing when I can't go,

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Wow, he's even froze coming backin. Is this feels weird having me
at the top there he is?You seem shorter now, but never mind
w B. Yeah yeah now thatwas a good time man, I had

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I had a blast. I'm reallyproud of of Gage and seeing his band
play again. Drummers out there,I know, I know you're out there.
I know you want to join aband that that they're not fucking around,
They're they're ready. You need toyou need to get a hold of
me. You need to. Youknow you know the email address, email
the show leave with comment something likethat, let me know and I'll put
you in touch. Yeah, hopefullyyou can play fast because these guys are

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fucking fast. Yeah, it waspretty fucking awesome. That would be interesting
to have us up there as apolar opposite band because we don't play fast.
Yeah, it would, uh,I know. Okay, So during
all the fast stuff at the showthat it was like the the marsh pitt

(32:02):
would go go wild, you know, but the breakdown stuff when it would
go halftime, people went nuts andit was it was awesome. I was
I was enjoying. That's awesome,man. Yeah, fucking yeah. One
of these days we'll have to seewhat it looks like from the stage.

(32:22):
Yeah. It's been a while,Yeah for sure. So I wanted to
tell you guys about something that happenedto me. I was removed from another
bigfoot group on Facebook. I can'tremember the name of the group now because
once it came out, I waslike, yeah, way, it must

(32:44):
have been a glitch. Yeah itwas. I feel like it was a
misunderstanding because somebody had said something alongthe lines of like how many how many
people believe in Bigfoot? And haveyou ever seen one? And then there
was like three hundred comments on it, right, every and everybody's seen one.

(33:08):
And I was like, I commentedand I was like, wow,
look at look at all these peoplethat spotted him. I was like,
it's guess he's not that rare afterall, because I mean, everybody's seen
him. Right. It was liketwenty minutes later I saw that I was

(33:28):
removed from the group. I'm like, oh, really, Like, come
on, man, It's like Ijust pointed out an observation. It's not
like I even got on there andsaid anything, you know, hateful towards
the community. I just said,like, there's three hundred people commenting here
and they've all seen him, sohe can't be that rare, right,

(33:54):
fucking weird? Yeah, right,it's kind of one of those oxen.
That's the thing about those big Footgroups is there's thousands of members and everybody's
seen him. Yeah, nobody's gota picture. Though. It's tough tough
break there, right, He's justthat good at dodging that ship. Yeah.

(34:19):
I feel like we've gotten into thisso uh, this topic so many
times. I feel like this islike, like the basis of the show
was the Big Guy, but afterspending multiple years listening at this like it
has like we all came into thison the fence, like we had real

(34:47):
like gout like poor beliefs that likeit could happen, It could happen.
I've seen, We've seen stranger shitout there. But now it's starting to
say, is this a true liketrue like yeah, the only way it
could be now to me personally,this is how I feel over the years,

(35:09):
I'm certain to feel over the yearsis that it has to be something
more like I guess you would sayspiritual. And I don't know if I
believe in that that much. Yeah, I don't know. To me,
like I think about like all theship the sh there is to me,

(35:31):
it's like, you know, thinkabout all the ship you see out of
the corner of your eye that isn'tthere. You know, it will be
psychological. You're out in the woods, there's nothing around you for miles,
you know. Yeah, And let'sface it, anybody that's actually spend any
time in the woods knows that likeeven the smallest creature can sound like a
horse. Yeah, squirrels down,Yeah they sound like a stampede coming through.

(35:55):
Yeah, squirrels sound huge, youknow, deer running sound like much
larger animals. Yeah, even likestraight cats if they're in a leaf bed,
you know, are gonna sound bigger, you know. I mean,
it's just I don't know. It'speople are gonna believe what they want to
believe. People are gonna say whatthey've done. Yeah, and if you

(36:19):
try to contradict whatever they're saying withany questioning, then they get upset.
And as soon as they get upset, I immediately know that this is an
emotional response, yeah, not somuch a factual response. Yeah, because
you start going in from the fromthe realm of probability into the realm of

(36:40):
possibility. Yeah, and probability veryvery low possibility. Anything's fucking possible.
But is it probable? Yeah?Can the world produce an upright ape like
that? Probably it probably can.Is it possible to have an ecosystem that

(37:02):
can sustain a population of that bigof an ape, It's doubtful. Yeah.
There isn't even that many gorillas inthe wild, and that's a big
ape. That's a valid point.What is like the silberback population worldwide?
I couldn't tell you. Often I'mlooking it up because you know, that's

(37:22):
what I do. Yeah, Iknow it can't be crazy, but I'm
sure it's reasonable within the amount ofcalories out there, you know what I
mean. And then too, youknow, we had the poaching thing for
a while with the silver back,so I'm sure that's still going on.

(37:44):
You're looking at thirteen or three hundredand sixteen thousand Western gorillas and five thousand
Eastern gorillas. Yeah, it's nota in the grand scheme of things,
It's not a terrible lot, right, considering that you I don't know how
to say this without being offensive tothose communities, but you're trying to sell

(38:06):
the fact. You're trying to sellit as a fact that there's basically millions
of these things. And it's evenworse when you talk about mountain grillas,
which would be the big serback,the one that nobody believed existed. There's
a thousand of them, and fourhundred and sixty of them live in one
particular national park in Uganda. Yeah, so you know, and we have

(38:29):
pictures of them, Yeah, wehave them. People didn't believe in them
for eighty years and they finally gotpictures and now it's that it was a
thing. Yeah. Yeah, theywere like this thing that don't that doesn't
exist, there's no way. Andthen it's like, well, we got
all these we got this film ofthem, we got this picture of them,
and it's clear as day. Yeah, so it's it's one of them

(38:51):
things. I you know, I'mnot trying to hijack this into a into
a big Foot episode by any means. I feel like the subject it's got
enough attention and it's it is afrustrating topic for me now because I did.
I went into the topic when westarted this very even keel, very
like, all right, let's let'sfind some patterns. I found one weird

(39:15):
pattern over a course of like twelveyears, and often the most disappointing explanation
will be what's going on? Andthe thing that got me was is that
there was a giant fact that wasleft out of my explanation, that wasn't

(39:37):
done intentionally. But when I wentback and I went over the information again,
it went like this, I'm readingthese patterns. I'm reading these sightings
on a public website that anybody cansubmit a siding too. So anyone go

(40:00):
in there and say, well,I'm gonna I'm gonna make a siting similar
to this one, I'm going tocreate one, and then a guy like
me comes along and I put togetherthat, Well, this one is a
reoccurring this one happens every so often. Maybe, But the most probable explanation
is that someone put those in becausethe submission itself is not date stamped.

(40:25):
They manually enter in the date thatthey alleged that this happened, and they
don't vet this at all. Theydon't vet it, Yeah, because there's
not there. Like I'm not sayinglike that organization doesn't have like the means
to have somebody go out and investigateright off that off the rip. Yeah,

(40:47):
just just to make sure that they'retelling the truth. And like you
said, if it was manually putin, this could be an old story
that was passed down from people.So how could you actually makes recording the
same story but someone had told hima different time period. Yeah, I'm
not saying it's completely nefarious. I'mjust saying that it's Yeah, the human

(41:12):
element is added to it, it'sit starts to get a little wobbly,
and without that, there's no controlfactor to that experiment, so it's it's
void. I always I always putit at this is like telephone that game
that you played in school. That'show I always like, somebody tells one

(41:36):
story and then it goes like,all I saw Bigfoot, and then next
you know, it goes all around. Bigfoot's flying flying saucers through the center
of the world. That's how wegot to hear like, well that's where
they live. Yeah, in thecenter of the earth. Silly, silly
goose. Of course, Bigfoot's comingout of the middle of the planet wherever

(42:01):
where a bunch of stuff lives.Yeah, you know what I mean.
I don't know, man, Idon't know that. That whole thing.
That whole thing. And then whenthey remove you from a group because you
have a polar opposite, you know, approach, And my whole thing was
like not really like to point itout and just to put them on the

(42:22):
spot. It was more of alike perspective thing, like, hey man,
there's thousands of you trying to tellme this is a rare like once
in a lifetime sighting, and there'sthousands of you that seen it allegedly,
right, So it can't be both. Yeah, and you think you take

(42:43):
take just a law of averages ofone thousand to one odds that means that
nine and ninety nine of those peopleare lying through their fucking teeth. If
you apply that, yeah again,they're gonna twist us around and be like
you call those fucking liars. No, I'm not. The odds are.
Maybe they're not lying. They theyexperienced something that was unexplained to them and

(43:08):
it has nothing to do with Bigfoot, even if they were telling the truth
of their experience, but they justit was something totally different. It's just
like that whole the term. Ican't remember who we were talking to,
but they said him and his boywent out and his boy ran back to

(43:28):
the truck because he heard a screechout. Now, it was the first
time you ever heard heard that before. That was on location, Mike,
and it was and his dad andhe was so yeah, like that,
like that's the type Like, that'sthe type of scenario. Like if you're
not used to this, you're goingwhen you're when you're in the unknown,

(43:49):
especially in the dark and shit,your mind is going to race and go
to the like the worst assumption becausenow you're in uh, fight or flight,
and most people will take flight.Yeah, you know you just said
that earlier, you said Tyler thatyou'd almost be willing to lean towards a

(44:14):
spiritual type thing of you know.And that's like, if anybody listens to
show that's like the one topic thatI usually don't I don't really weigh in
on, is that whole thing thatthe afterlife, spiritual stuff, all that
stuff. In my core belief isthat this is a science that we don't

(44:36):
understand yet. I don't really thinkit's metaphysical, you know what I mean.
I feel like there's a science thereto this that if there's a such
thing as as a persisting human consciousness, which there there have been interesting things
that have happened with that subject.I believe that it's a natural part of

(45:00):
of science and physics, you know, because at this point in physics,
we know that there's there's fourth dimensions, fifth dimensions, sixth dimensions, you
know, and we even have probabilitiesand and equations that can they can prove
these now, which to me,that's the math. That's that's the that's
showing your work, you know whatI mean, Like, that's that's not

(45:22):
just saying like, oh, dude, there's a portal in the middle of
the Earth, and that's where Bigfootcomes out of with this UFO. No,
that's we have this math. Wehave this math, and we have
a missing spot here in the middle, and the universe doesn't usually do that.
So we start working out the math, how how does this fit this

(45:42):
other dimension in here, and evengetting you know, getting on and listening
to some of the big you know, there's some of the famous scientists out
there, you know, sit thereand talk about, uh, well,
fourth dimensional beings could technically interact witheverything here, but we don't have the
organs, We don't have the sensoryorgans to perceive fourth dimensional So it's not

(46:09):
like it's not like a make believething. It's just that we're living firmly
in the third dimensional world. Sowe've evolved to be in the third dimensional
world. It's not that it's notthere, it's that we're just not the
right model to see it, toexperience it. If seeing it is even

(46:30):
how you perceive it, we don'teven know or all we know, our
brains don't know how to think outsideof the third dimensional world, you know,
so they have to rely on mathematics. And then when it comes to
the spiritual, you know, thespiritual side. I look at it like
this, Hey, we got twobig things here. We have how to
perceive the fourth dimension and up andwe have all this paranormal stuff and my

(46:58):
brain pairs. Don't those kind offollow the same, you know rules.
You can't really understand it, youcan't really see it, blah blah blah
blah blah. You know. Sofor me, if you said, like,
well, maybe the big foot thingis that
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