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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And it doesn't mean that you need to have a
PhD or be like a star celebrity. But what you've
done not just your story.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome back to the show. We have a special treat
for you today. One of the most elite coaches and
TEDx speakers on the planet.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Welcome to the show. Marina. Welcome, Marina.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hi Rovin, how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh? You know it's early here in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
You know, I know you're on the other side of
the world, and I had to get up bright and early.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
But I'm so excited to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I can't imagine how you can have so much energy
at five am and in the money. It's six pm
on my side, and I'm right now in China, So.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Let's start there.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Because when we were messaging each other on LinkedIn, first
of all, I'll tell you I found you on YouTube.
So I looked up YouTube like how to ted X
because I knew I was going to be working on
this podcast about this topic, and your kept popping up
all over my feet.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It was like, that's the lady you need to talk
to if.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You want to know how to apply, if you want
to know how to speak, So talk to me. A
little bit about what landed you in China, just to start, like,
how did you end up in China?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh, I'm originally from Russia, and many years ago I
got a little bit bored to be there. I was
doing freelance work, working on web designs, and then I thought,
I want to explore something new. It's like a very
limited place to explore myself for growth. So I wanted
(01:38):
to move to another place and something that really can
challenge myself, to challenge me. So I was like, huh,
why not China? For me, China was like you know,
another world, the movies to each you watch you with
the Asian people like Jackie chat like wow, I will
be somewhere there. So it was very interesting. But the
(01:58):
most interesting part was that when I came here the
first time, I was like, wow, everything is made in China.
People should speak English here. I was so confident I
can speak some English and I'll be able to communicate.
But no, that wasn't the case. I came to Beijing.
I wasn't the place where people speak maturity of time,
just in just Chinese, no English at all, and that
(02:21):
was like really challenge for me. But I really like it.
And another friendly challenge.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Is how long have you been living there?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Now, I've been based here for ten years. I was
away for COVID time and then I came back, So
I usually say that I based here because I travel
a lot, but just came back here.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Very nice. Well, thanks for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I think it's really fascinating when we learn more about
ted X speakers, their background story and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So I appreciate you sharing that.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So let's dig into some of the reasons that we're
here this morning again. If there's anything about out, you know,
applying for X or being a tech ex speaker. You
have tons of resources online, but I want to see
if we could get very technical today for people who
are new to the space thinking about getting on a stage.
(03:14):
Talk to me about some of the early steps that
people need to take before they even apply, Like what
is the first step for people who need to prepare
to apply for their TEX talk.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Well, first of all, you want to decide what you
want to talk about. It's one of the questions which
I will ask the first what is your topic and
why you Because these two questions TATIC organizeders will look
for in the application and even for yourself, like the
topic that you pick. You know, it's interesting people come
(03:50):
to me and oftentimes people start with their story, like
with their experience, and they want to share their experience.
But I want people to think about tetext like a
long term investment. It's not that you give it textalal
one time. It will serve you for years. I mean
the right talk. That's why you think about your ideal,
(04:12):
like are you going to talk about it three years
from now? Because you're going to invest your time, your
effort and hopefully there's the reason why you want to
give a textock. You want to reach my people and
you need to share your idea for a longer time
so you will be able to really touch the hearts
(04:33):
of people. It's not just one time when you present
on the stage and then your talk will get published online. No,
it will be online, But what about you then? Are
you going to keep sharing this message with others? And
then what is going to be this message and why
you are the one to talk about it like teTeX.
(04:54):
Organizations will look for your credibility and it doesn't mean
that you need to have a phdal or be like
a star celebrity, but what you've done not just your story,
but that experience that people can relate to. Maybe you've
done some research for many years, maybe you worked in
the industry for a long time. Maybe you had a
(05:17):
very challenging life story, like you've been at the edge
of the life and death. So what is that? What
is so special about this idea that only you can
talk about it?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
That's good, that's good.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I love that you framed it as looking at your
TED talk, your TEDx talk as a long term investment.
I don't think we've had anyone on the show frame
it that way, So I want to dig a little
deeper on that. So I know many of the people
that I speak to talk about like you're unable to
(05:56):
sell on stage, right, So like you can't get on
stage and like sell. But we've had a couple of
people who are quite creative on ways that you can
kind of tie your talk into the things that you
work on professionally. Talk to me about your talk as
an investment and what that really means.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Well, when you give a tech talk, you will become well,
you're already kind of a personal you have your personal brand,
so when you give a TEX talk, it's part of
the credibility to your personal brand. When you will share
your message. Let's say you're an entrepreneur and you maybe
(06:38):
coach people on how to live a happy life. Everybody
talks about the same thing. It's actually very funny. Everybody
who come to me and they talk about their ideas,
and for our listeners, you can check in if your
idea feel discritarious. So first, this comes from your experience.
(06:59):
You have a lot of in this area. It changed
your life. You have the solution of how people can
apply what you teach to their lives and they can
get pretty much everything they want in life. Most of
the time, like the speech, the idea fits this for creatia,
and then you start digging deep, like how how you
(07:22):
can help people be happy? How this idea will help
people in the long term? What kind of people. I'll
give you an example, like last year I talked to
it's so interesting, three women and they're all black and
they're over fifty, and then they decided to give a
(07:45):
tax talk about like something important in their way. And
I pointed, it's because these three they don't know each other,
but they mentioned the same thing. I'm a black person,
and like people do not listen to ask it's so
challenging for such people to get to the top of
our profession or to get to where we are. And
(08:07):
then I was like, okay, so tell me more. I
know that you can help people, and I know that
your framework or whatever you want to each can help people.
But why is this important to you? And how you
understand like how you will present this message in the
long term, And almost all of them frame it in
(08:28):
almost the same way. After fifty, people tell you that
life is over. So I want to share with people
that at fifty, life is not over. It's just the
beginning of your life. You see three ladies the same message,
the same problems, the same concerns, the same idea, and
(08:51):
then we get deep into how your story shapes this
idea and how you will keep sharing because it's so deep,
so close to their hearts that they want to share
more about it. And it's not just their story now
it turns to the idea that they're willing to share,
(09:13):
and they are going to be older and older, but
the idea will stay. The life is not over after fifteen.
Here is how you can get more happiness in life.
Here's how you can get more meaning in life. Here's
what you can do to still be kind of feel
that life in yourself and for entrepreneurs, if you coach
(09:34):
someone on how to be happy, how to be a
better leader, or whatever it is. So what message are
you going to keep sharing ears from now? How else?
And this is the short version of your message. So
the taek sulk is just eighteen minutes. I suggest people
to limit it to fifteen minutes, just in case you
get a little bit over time and then there's not
(09:58):
so many things you can fit in in eighteen minutes,
right or fifteen And then you will share it in
your coaching, in your workshops, in your books. This is
your long term investment. So the tetch stock is just
the beginning, the core idea of what you share in
everything and everything else that you will do years from
(10:22):
the moment that your tech stock is going to be published.
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Speaker 3 (11:16):
Very nice, very nice.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
So let's talk a little bit more about the idea
before we move on. So, when you are connecting with
your clients, what kind of exercises and what kind of
things do you do to kind of bring the idea
out of them if you will? I know that you
know that's one of the struggles that many of our
listeners have is like, Okay, they don't have a coach,
(11:41):
maybe they can't afford a coach, or they don't want
to try to hire services, so they're doing it themselves
and they're sitting there with a blank piece of paper,
thinking about like what is my idea? Can you walk
us through ways that you help people to get the
idea out?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Sure? And one of the first things which I tell
people is the difference between a motivational talk and a
text talk because a lot of times people think about
text talk as a motivational or inspirational talks, and it's
often based they hear the story of the person who
give a text talk, right, so they tell the story.
But the difference between motivational talk and a text talk
(12:20):
is that exact idea that you want to bring. So
when you think about your story, and it's really funny
when I talk to people and I ask them, okay,
so tell me what you want to talk about, what
your text talk is going to be about, and they
start sharing maybe a story, maybe how they want to
teach people on what to do next and everything. And
(12:41):
then I ask them, so why did you tell me that?
And they're like, just because I felt too. And here's
the point. Motivational talk is about your story. In tex talk,
the idea comes first, and your story supports that idea.
(13:02):
The studies support the idea are the key studies you
talk about, like you cannot sell on stage, right, but
you can share other people's story, maybe from your business,
from your experience. It's like you tell about other people's
experience without directly selling there, so they also support that
idea and this is your reason? Why why do you
(13:26):
want to share the story? Like with those three ladis
which I talked to last year, they wanted to change
people's life, right, And how why you? Why is this
important to you? Why you want to share the story?
And it's like why you want to share the story?
Or why is it important too? Like almost the same question,
(13:47):
but from a little different perspectives, and it helps you
to depit deeper. Why is this important for me? How
did I get to that idea? Usually it's, for example,
there's your idea, yeah, and you step a few years
back to where you did not feel comfortable or maybe
had some problems or struggles or desires, and now you
(14:10):
reach to the top where you're willing to share your experience.
You have this experience and you want to help people.
So where was that beginning for you? That's how you
can find this idea at least the beginning and start
discovering more what you want to share based on that.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Very nice, Very nice. So now we have an idea.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Now let's say we've already like put it together, we
feel real confident in the idea.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
What tips or suggestions do you.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Have now that I'm writing my script. So now I'm
in the process of writing my script. I'm writing my
manuscript for what I'm going to submit to the TX organizers.
What recommendations do you have for any you know, best
practices or maybe any tips that.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You can offer for actually writing the script.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Thank you Robin for bringing this question. And I'm going
to point one of the biggest mistakes that people make
is they write the whole script before they start applying
for a TETIC talk. Don't do it. The thing about
tetics events is every event, the majority of the events,
(15:22):
they have the theme. There are exceptions when they don't
have a theme and they accept speakers with different topics,
but the majority of TETX events they have a special theme.
And what you need to do you need to have
a draft of your speech, not the final speech, and
please do not memorize it before you fly and get
accepted for a TETIC talk, because it's just a waste
(15:44):
of time and your energy, and then it will make
you confuse when you will actually finalize your text talk.
So what you need to do once you find you're
not even the core idea at this point, you may
not know exactly the five I know the final phrase
that you want to share with people. But the overall
(16:05):
concept of your telech stock and the kind of idea
that you want to share and you will polish after
you get accepted for a tech stock. So you need
to write a telexstock draft. So you decided, okay, so
here's the topic that I want to talk about and
I think about it in long term, so I'm going
to speak about this probably in the future too, and write.
(16:27):
Just get every idea out of your head. Write everything
once you have it written, and please write it. Do
not think. Sometimes people come, oh, I'm a professional speaker,
I'm a good story teller. Write it down. You can
be a professional speaker. But again, if you come from
the motivational points of speaking on the stage and you
(16:50):
get to the tech space, it's a little bit different.
So write to text, write everything, and then you start
formulating your idea. Yeah, like, based on the draft, you
have the concept. Probably I want to talk about how
people will change their lives. That's not the idea right away.
(17:12):
If this is your idea, no, no, no, please do not
apply with this one, because more likely you'll get rejected.
A lot of people do the same thing. You want
to change people life? How what was the problem? Your draft?
Your talk will more like I mean successful tech talks.
(17:35):
They either crafted around the problem or desire something that
you can improve. There are some talks which are based
on for example, they present new technologies, but the majority
of speakers, like entrepreneurs or coaches or authors, they come
from the experience, either based on the problem or desire
(17:57):
or some to improve something or to learn something. You so,
what is that what is that beginning? What is that problem?
What is that desire that people have? Think back you
few years from now, you had this desire when you
had this problem, and then you lead people to your
core idea and solution. What people do? They can be
(18:21):
the solution right away? Oh I have five steps on
how to be more happy. Nah, no way, think about
it like you probably have friends who smock. If you
come to them and give them the solution, you just
need to quit spocking. What are you going to do?
(18:42):
Go away from me? No, no, no, no, I've heard it
so many times I don't want to hear it anymore.
The same with the tax stock. Before you get to
the solution, you don't start with it. You can start
as a teaser. It's one of the options to start
at all, but the majority of time your action step
are going to be in the end and the beginning,
(19:02):
like why why they need to change? As you ask
yourself why you give this dog for them, it's the
same thing. Why do they need to change their behavior
or to apply something to you? Or where is that
the real problem? It's not that I want to be happy,
but what you really want? Do you want to have
a better relationship with your spouse? Do you want to
(19:26):
make more money? Do you want to feel successful? Not
be successful? Because it's a different thing. Many people think, look,
oh I have power, I have money, and this is success. No,
then you can start with a question what the success
look to you? And then you get to the point
how to be successful? If that's your Coredea.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Very very nice, Marina. I love the way you frame
that one. Oh that was good. So we get in
tons of value here. I hope you'all writing this down.
I hope you guys are like Joanese, nose down because
this is super super valuable.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
So we have our idea.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It's an idea that's going to be an investment for
us long term, and maybe we can continue to talk
about we didn't write out a full script, but we
did do a draft and we did align it with
some of the themes.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
That are out there.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So let's talk about the actual organizers and let's talk
about the TEX chapters. How do soon to BEX speakers
select the right chapter? What places would you recommend for
them to find the events that they need to apply
to so they can share so they can kind of
(20:41):
craft their manuscript or their draft.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I should say, around that theme. Where do they find
these events?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Well, the official events that already planned are on ted
dot com. You can just go to the website, go
to the event sections and go to the sections with
the teTeX events and there are a list of events
which you can attend and you can see you can
click there and see where the event is in each country,
(21:08):
in which city, and oftentimes they write the theme of
the event, sometimes they don't, so you can just google.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Okay, and this is what it No.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Let me jump in real quick on that, Marina, because
one challenge that we get from people that have been
a part of this journey with me is that when
they go to the TED website, they feel like it's
just not enough information, Like they'll give them like a
name of an event, but there's not necessarily whether or
not they're accepting applications. They gives you another link, and
(21:42):
then that link doesn't give you the information that you want.
So when you're working with your clients, how do you
help them to solve that problem?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Let me ask you the question, what kind of information
I'm looking for?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So most of the folks are really just looking for
the timeline of when these events are accepting applications. Oftentimes,
like on the big map on the ted dot com right,
there's a map and then you click to your area
and it'll show you all of the chapters, but it's
very plain. It'll give you like the organizer's name, the
(22:20):
city that it's in, and then then you go onto Google.
Let me type in the name of the event. Now
you're searching on your own. So that's the challenge that
many of the people in this community face, and we
try to help them to share active applications with them
weekly on our newsletter that folks can sign up for
(22:41):
at landetalk dot com. But I think that there's got
to be a better way, you know what I mean.
And I just wanted to see from one of the
experts what you recommend for people to do.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Actually, you do the right thing, and people get very
lazy do not when they do not do their work.
That's exactly where I would starts website and as you say,
they may have the name of the event, they may
have the location, and then you google. But now this
(23:13):
is the main work. So on the tech website you
first you have the date of the event. The majority
of the events it depends, so their Tech Standards events
and their university youth events. There's the one which people
usually apply for at the end of the year that
women events like special category where you can apply if
(23:35):
your talk is related to women's topic or maybe you're
a woman you want to talk about something also related
to women. And then these are a few events where
you can apply and get accepted. There are a few
other tetics events where people just do not accept you.
And then when you find out your event and location,
(23:57):
you google. Another thing that you also mentioned, which people
can find on the ted dot com website is the
organizer and here is what you do. When you google,
you find the website. Some tetics events do not have website,
but the big events, like for example Tetics Planta, they
(24:18):
have their events. They have a lot of they have
the community, they have a Facebook group. You can find
this information find like more information about the events that
you want to apply for. There are small events like
use for example. Usually they're much smaller because they are
four teenagers for they are hosted maybe in school. Sometimes
(24:41):
I have adults. So you can be a speaker a
tectics use too. This is a very important thing to
remember if you maybe not experienced speaker, or maybe you
don't want to invest that much time to become a
techics speaker, because again thinking about the long term investments
becoming a tech speaker, one of the things that will
(25:03):
be very credible for you as a person, as a
personal brand, is just to have this mark that you're
a tech speaker. Even this will be a good thing.
So you can save yourself some time and it will
be easier actually to apply and maybe get accepted for
TETXS youth event if it's in your community. Then TEXS
(25:27):
universities and telex standards they are harder to get to
and some of them are big. And then you search.
You need to find the date when they start the
start the application, when they look for the speakers. Not
every website will have it. Not every Facebook group or
(25:48):
sometimes I even write it on the tax page on
the teed dot com website. Not every place will have it,
but try to find it. If not, you look for
the tex organizer's name, search for them on LinkedIn, or
maybe you also can google them. You need to do
your research. It's the best way. If you really want
(26:08):
to get accepted for a text talk, search as much
as you as you possibly can about the event, the organizer,
the theme. Because when you will craft your application, you
want to craft it the way that your tech talk
and use an expert, because you're an expert. Even if
if you don't think about yourself this way, you are
(26:31):
an expert. You need to position yourself that way. You
will help. You will support the theme of the event. If,
for example, TETX event does not have a theme specific thing,
for example Cambridge, they do not have a theme, you
can apply sometimes within a year. They don't have a
(26:54):
deadline too. They just decide, oh, we're going to host
the event on this date, and they don't tell you
the deadline. They don't have right now. I think they
don't have an even the application before they head it now.
I don't think they have it, but it happens. And
how do you know that You do your research. If
(27:14):
they do not talk to consultants coaches like you and I,
then you need to do your homework and you make
a list of the events where you can apply, where
your topic feed the team, or where you can adjust
your topic to their team.
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I want to just jump in on this really quick,
so because I think it's profound that when asked how
we can simplify the process. I love that you said
that people need to put in the work, because you know,
if people have the resources where they can help, have
someone to help them and guide them, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
That's always like a secret right to pay the person
who's done the thing to teach you how to do it,
So that makes sense. But I love the idea of
taking the stairs, like skipping the la doing the hard
work and taking the stairs to your goal.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I think that will make it more rewarding.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
But also I think in that process you'll learn so
much about yourself.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I love that. One more question.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I want to make sure I get this in because
this is something that comes up a.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Lot for people who are new to the TED and
ted X space.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
They want to know the difference between TED and TEDx.
And I don't think I've had any of our guests
really dive into this. And I believe you have a
video about this, so this is a topic that you're
comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Talk to me quickly.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
About the differences or the difference between a TED and
a TEDx event and where speakers should be trying to
apply or get on stage four.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
It's very easy, such an easy question. I'll try to
be insured on this. So the TED is the main company.
A lot of people confuse get confused between TED and
a TEDx event, and they think the TEDx event is
a TED too. It's not the official TED event. The
tet conference is held usually in April in Vancouver, Canada.
(30:09):
Then also tet organization, the main company, have a few
more events during the year, like TED Women is held
at the end of the year. That's why if you
apply for the teTeX to Women category, it's usually also
at the end of the year around the official TED event.
So the TED event is the huge conference. The tickets
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are from five thousand dollars and five thousand dollars is
if you've never been there and you apply and you
get a special price. Usually it's like ten thousand dollars
and up just to attend the event. Now for you
as a speaker, you can apply for both. You can
apply for TED event and tetexx event. For TED event,
(30:51):
they look for speakers also any time. But the thing is,
if you don't have the experience, I would still suggest
you start with the teTeX events. The TETX events is
the smaller events with the tet concept. So what happened
when TED organizers started hosting these events, regular people say
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that we want to learn more, we also want to
watch them. We want to have these ideas in our communities.
So they started giving the license, the license for smaller
local events where it can be anywhere in the world.
It can be in any country and pretty much anyone
can get this license. And of course the teTeX event
(31:38):
in your hometown if you're listening to it. Either way,
this is one of the secrets. If you want to
become a tetch speaker, and if it's somewhere far away
from US city, find a person organization who can organize
the tetxs event. They can get a license and maybe
(31:59):
you can becomes speaker there. It's an option and the difference.
Another difference, big difference between a and a tatics event
is the tet event is huge. There are a lot
of people. teTeX events are usually limited by one hundred
people with some exceptions. So the tatox organizers who went
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to official TED event, they can have a special license
and host more than one hundred people. When people think, oh,
I'm going to give it tatek stock and a lot
of people will see me. That's not really the case.
Oftentimes there will be one hundred people, maybe some extra
stuff here and there, but not that much. And the
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effect of the tech stock will be when it gets
published on like the main effect. So it's not for
the audience. This is a very important thing. You craft
your tetech stock, not for the audience who will be
in the auditorium where you will actually perform, but for
those who will watch your tech stock. And then if
(33:07):
you apply for the tech event, of course, the competitions
there is much higher if you apply, for example, for
a tetechs event.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Well this has been all very valuable, Marina, But I
feel like we could probably spend hours talking about this stuff.
So before we get out of here, talk to that
person who's listening right now. They've never applied, and maybe
they're having some doubts whether or not they should apply.
Talk to them about how this could change their life.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Well, you pointed a very important thing. If you have doubts,
if you're not sure if you should apply. You know,
I talked to a lot of people and some of
them are like navy seals. Marina officers, people from the
big corporations, and all of them have doubts. And when
you look at them, like you tell yourself that you
(34:03):
can share something. No, if you have a message you
really want to share it, then go for it. Do
your search. Maybe it's not right now at this moment,
but now you've got a lot of information to think about.
To think about your idea, how it will serve you,
how you will serve other people, because it's not about you,
it's about the idea that will help other people. And
(34:27):
then just start doing it.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Just just start. It's funny. Sometimes people come to me.
I'm like, oh, there's application in a few weeks. Should
I apply? Of course you should. What bad thing can happen?
Apply and see if they will say no, or maybe
they will not reply to you, and so what try again.
But this is the step of you know, overcoming your fear.
(34:56):
And you may think like, oh, maybe my idea is
not that value. Then talk about it with other people.
If it's meaningful for other people, then it's worth trying.
Maybe you can touch some other people in the audience
or when your talk will be published online. Who knows.
You never know, but you will never know until you
(35:17):
try it.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
That is great.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Well, listen, Marina, if folks want to get in contact
with you or test out or try out your service
to see if you're a good fit, how can they
find you?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Well, you can go to Marinabarieva dot com. That's my website.
But the best thing you can you can do and
it will give you just step by step roadmap of
what to prepare, how to prepare the necessary thing that
you need to prepare for your application, and what to
do after you get accepted. Is you can go to
(35:53):
marinabarieva dot com forward slash that guide. You can feel
you name there your email and you'll get a guide
that will lead you through that. And I also send
you more tips on how you can become a thet expecer,
how to craft your talk and everything that will support
your journey.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Awesome, and we'll have all of those links for you
folks in the description and show notes of the episode. Marina,
this has been super fun. I hope that I can
have you on for season two. Would you come back
to the.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Show absolutely, let me know when we'd love.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
To have you. Well, we'll see you next time.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Thank you so much, Thank you, so much,
And it doesn't mean that you need to have a
PhD or be like a star celebrity. But what you've
done not just your story.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome back to the show. We have a special treat
for you today. One of the most elite coaches and
TEDx speakers on the planet.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Welcome to the show. Marina. Welcome, Marina.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hi Rovin, how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh? You know it's early here in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
You know, I know you're on the other side of
the world, and I had to get up bright and early.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
But I'm so excited to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I can't imagine how you can have so much energy
at five am and in the money. It's six pm
on my side, and I'm right now in China, So.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Let's start there.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Because when we were messaging each other on LinkedIn, first
of all, I'll tell you I found you on YouTube.
So I looked up YouTube like how to ted X
because I knew I was going to be working on
this podcast about this topic, and your kept popping up
all over my feet.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It was like, that's the lady you need to talk
to if.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You want to know how to apply, if you want
to know how to speak, So talk to me. A
little bit about what landed you in China, just to start, like,
how did you end up in China?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh, I'm originally from Russia, and many years ago I
got a little bit bored to be there. I was
doing freelance work, working on web designs, and then I thought,
I want to explore something new. It's like a very
limited place to explore myself for growth. So I wanted
(01:38):
to move to another place and something that really can
challenge myself, to challenge me. So I was like, huh,
why not China? For me, China was like you know,
another world, the movies to each you watch you with
the Asian people like Jackie chat like wow, I will
be somewhere there. So it was very interesting. But the
(01:58):
most interesting part was that when I came here the
first time, I was like, wow, everything is made in China.
People should speak English here. I was so confident I
can speak some English and I'll be able to communicate.
But no, that wasn't the case. I came to Beijing.
I wasn't the place where people speak maturity of time,
just in just Chinese, no English at all, and that
(02:21):
was like really challenge for me. But I really like it.
And another friendly challenge.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Is how long have you been living there?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Now, I've been based here for ten years. I was
away for COVID time and then I came back, So
I usually say that I based here because I travel
a lot, but just came back here.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Very nice. Well, thanks for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I think it's really fascinating when we learn more about
ted X speakers, their background story and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So I appreciate you sharing that.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So let's dig into some of the reasons that we're
here this morning again. If there's anything about out, you know,
applying for X or being a tech ex speaker. You
have tons of resources online, but I want to see
if we could get very technical today for people who
are new to the space thinking about getting on a stage.
(03:14):
Talk to me about some of the early steps that
people need to take before they even apply, Like what
is the first step for people who need to prepare
to apply for their TEX talk.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Well, first of all, you want to decide what you
want to talk about. It's one of the questions which
I will ask the first what is your topic and
why you Because these two questions TATIC organizeders will look
for in the application and even for yourself, like the
topic that you pick. You know, it's interesting people come
(03:50):
to me and oftentimes people start with their story, like
with their experience, and they want to share their experience.
But I want people to think about tetext like a
long term investment. It's not that you give it textalal
one time. It will serve you for years. I mean
the right talk. That's why you think about your ideal,
(04:12):
like are you going to talk about it three years
from now? Because you're going to invest your time, your
effort and hopefully there's the reason why you want to
give a textock. You want to reach my people and
you need to share your idea for a longer time
so you will be able to really touch the hearts
(04:33):
of people. It's not just one time when you present
on the stage and then your talk will get published online. No,
it will be online, But what about you then? Are
you going to keep sharing this message with others? And
then what is going to be this message and why
you are the one to talk about it like teTeX.
(04:54):
Organizations will look for your credibility and it doesn't mean
that you need to have a phdal or be like
a star celebrity, but what you've done not just your story,
but that experience that people can relate to. Maybe you've
done some research for many years, maybe you worked in
the industry for a long time. Maybe you had a
(05:17):
very challenging life story, like you've been at the edge
of the life and death. So what is that? What
is so special about this idea that only you can
talk about it?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
That's good, that's good.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I love that you framed it as looking at your
TED talk, your TEDx talk as a long term investment.
I don't think we've had anyone on the show frame
it that way, So I want to dig a little
deeper on that. So I know many of the people
that I speak to talk about like you're unable to
(05:56):
sell on stage, right, So like you can't get on
stage and like sell. But we've had a couple of
people who are quite creative on ways that you can
kind of tie your talk into the things that you
work on professionally. Talk to me about your talk as
an investment and what that really means.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Well, when you give a tech talk, you will become well,
you're already kind of a personal you have your personal brand,
so when you give a TEX talk, it's part of
the credibility to your personal brand. When you will share
your message. Let's say you're an entrepreneur and you maybe
(06:38):
coach people on how to live a happy life. Everybody
talks about the same thing. It's actually very funny. Everybody
who come to me and they talk about their ideas,
and for our listeners, you can check in if your
idea feel discritarious. So first, this comes from your experience.
(06:59):
You have a lot of in this area. It changed
your life. You have the solution of how people can
apply what you teach to their lives and they can
get pretty much everything they want in life. Most of
the time, like the speech, the idea fits this for creatia,
and then you start digging deep, like how how you
(07:22):
can help people be happy? How this idea will help
people in the long term? What kind of people. I'll
give you an example, like last year I talked to
it's so interesting, three women and they're all black and
they're over fifty, and then they decided to give a
(07:45):
tax talk about like something important in their way. And
I pointed, it's because these three they don't know each other,
but they mentioned the same thing. I'm a black person,
and like people do not listen to ask it's so
challenging for such people to get to the top of
our profession or to get to where we are. And
(08:07):
then I was like, okay, so tell me more. I
know that you can help people, and I know that
your framework or whatever you want to each can help people.
But why is this important to you? And how you
understand like how you will present this message in the
long term, And almost all of them frame it in
(08:28):
almost the same way. After fifty, people tell you that
life is over. So I want to share with people
that at fifty, life is not over. It's just the
beginning of your life. You see three ladies the same message,
the same problems, the same concerns, the same idea, and
(08:51):
then we get deep into how your story shapes this
idea and how you will keep sharing because it's so deep,
so close to their hearts that they want to share
more about it. And it's not just their story now
it turns to the idea that they're willing to share,
(09:13):
and they are going to be older and older, but
the idea will stay. The life is not over after fifteen.
Here is how you can get more happiness in life.
Here's how you can get more meaning in life. Here's
what you can do to still be kind of feel
that life in yourself and for entrepreneurs, if you coach
(09:34):
someone on how to be happy, how to be a
better leader, or whatever it is. So what message are
you going to keep sharing ears from now? How else?
And this is the short version of your message. So
the taek sulk is just eighteen minutes. I suggest people
to limit it to fifteen minutes, just in case you
get a little bit over time and then there's not
(09:58):
so many things you can fit in in eighteen minutes,
right or fifteen And then you will share it in
your coaching, in your workshops, in your books. This is
your long term investment. So the tetch stock is just
the beginning, the core idea of what you share in
everything and everything else that you will do years from
(10:22):
the moment that your tech stock is going to be published.
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Speaker 3 (11:16):
Very nice, very nice.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
So let's talk a little bit more about the idea
before we move on. So, when you are connecting with
your clients, what kind of exercises and what kind of
things do you do to kind of bring the idea
out of them if you will? I know that you
know that's one of the struggles that many of our
listeners have is like, Okay, they don't have a coach,
(11:41):
maybe they can't afford a coach, or they don't want
to try to hire services, so they're doing it themselves
and they're sitting there with a blank piece of paper,
thinking about like what is my idea? Can you walk
us through ways that you help people to get the
idea out?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Sure? And one of the first things which I tell
people is the difference between a motivational talk and a
text talk because a lot of times people think about
text talk as a motivational or inspirational talks, and it's
often based they hear the story of the person who
give a text talk, right, so they tell the story.
But the difference between motivational talk and a text talk
(12:20):
is that exact idea that you want to bring. So
when you think about your story, and it's really funny
when I talk to people and I ask them, okay,
so tell me what you want to talk about, what
your text talk is going to be about, and they
start sharing maybe a story, maybe how they want to
teach people on what to do next and everything. And
(12:41):
then I ask them, so why did you tell me that?
And they're like, just because I felt too. And here's
the point. Motivational talk is about your story. In tex talk,
the idea comes first, and your story supports that idea.
(13:02):
The studies support the idea are the key studies you
talk about, like you cannot sell on stage, right, but
you can share other people's story, maybe from your business,
from your experience. It's like you tell about other people's
experience without directly selling there, so they also support that
idea and this is your reason? Why why do you
(13:26):
want to share the story? Like with those three ladis
which I talked to last year, they wanted to change
people's life, right, And how why you? Why is this
important to you? Why you want to share the story?
And it's like why you want to share the story?
Or why is it important too? Like almost the same question,
(13:47):
but from a little different perspectives, and it helps you
to depit deeper. Why is this important for me? How
did I get to that idea? Usually it's, for example,
there's your idea, yeah, and you step a few years
back to where you did not feel comfortable or maybe
had some problems or struggles or desires, and now you
(14:10):
reach to the top where you're willing to share your experience.
You have this experience and you want to help people.
So where was that beginning for you? That's how you
can find this idea at least the beginning and start
discovering more what you want to share based on that.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Very nice, Very nice. So now we have an idea.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Now let's say we've already like put it together, we
feel real confident in the idea.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
What tips or suggestions do you.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Have now that I'm writing my script. So now I'm
in the process of writing my script. I'm writing my
manuscript for what I'm going to submit to the TX organizers.
What recommendations do you have for any you know, best
practices or maybe any tips that.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You can offer for actually writing the script.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Thank you Robin for bringing this question. And I'm going
to point one of the biggest mistakes that people make
is they write the whole script before they start applying
for a TETIC talk. Don't do it. The thing about
tetics events is every event, the majority of the events,
(15:22):
they have the theme. There are exceptions when they don't
have a theme and they accept speakers with different topics,
but the majority of TETX events they have a special theme.
And what you need to do you need to have
a draft of your speech, not the final speech, and
please do not memorize it before you fly and get
accepted for a TETIC talk, because it's just a waste
(15:44):
of time and your energy, and then it will make
you confuse when you will actually finalize your text talk.
So what you need to do once you find you're
not even the core idea at this point, you may
not know exactly the five I know the final phrase
that you want to share with people. But the overall
(16:05):
concept of your telech stock and the kind of idea
that you want to share and you will polish after
you get accepted for a tech stock. So you need
to write a telexstock draft. So you decided, okay, so
here's the topic that I want to talk about and
I think about it in long term, so I'm going
to speak about this probably in the future too, and write.
(16:27):
Just get every idea out of your head. Write everything
once you have it written, and please write it. Do
not think. Sometimes people come, oh, I'm a professional speaker,
I'm a good story teller. Write it down. You can
be a professional speaker. But again, if you come from
the motivational points of speaking on the stage and you
(16:50):
get to the tech space, it's a little bit different.
So write to text, write everything, and then you start
formulating your idea. Yeah, like, based on the draft, you
have the concept. Probably I want to talk about how
people will change their lives. That's not the idea right away.
(17:12):
If this is your idea, no, no, no, please do not
apply with this one, because more likely you'll get rejected.
A lot of people do the same thing. You want
to change people life? How what was the problem? Your draft?
Your talk will more like I mean successful tech talks.
(17:35):
They either crafted around the problem or desire something that
you can improve. There are some talks which are based
on for example, they present new technologies, but the majority
of speakers, like entrepreneurs or coaches or authors, they come
from the experience, either based on the problem or desire
(17:57):
or some to improve something or to learn something. You so,
what is that what is that beginning? What is that problem?
What is that desire that people have? Think back you
few years from now, you had this desire when you
had this problem, and then you lead people to your
core idea and solution. What people do? They can be
(18:21):
the solution right away? Oh I have five steps on
how to be more happy. Nah, no way, think about
it like you probably have friends who smock. If you
come to them and give them the solution, you just
need to quit spocking. What are you going to do?
(18:42):
Go away from me? No, no, no, no, I've heard it
so many times I don't want to hear it anymore.
The same with the tax stock. Before you get to
the solution, you don't start with it. You can start
as a teaser. It's one of the options to start
at all, but the majority of time your action step
are going to be in the end and the beginning,
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like why why they need to change? As you ask
yourself why you give this dog for them, it's the
same thing. Why do they need to change their behavior
or to apply something to you? Or where is that
the real problem? It's not that I want to be happy,
but what you really want? Do you want to have
a better relationship with your spouse? Do you want to
(19:26):
make more money? Do you want to feel successful? Not
be successful? Because it's a different thing. Many people think, look,
oh I have power, I have money, and this is success. No,
then you can start with a question what the success
look to you? And then you get to the point
how to be successful? If that's your Coredea.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Very very nice, Marina. I love the way you frame
that one. Oh that was good. So we get in
tons of value here. I hope you'all writing this down.
I hope you guys are like Joanese, nose down because
this is super super valuable.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
So we have our idea.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It's an idea that's going to be an investment for
us long term, and maybe we can continue to talk
about we didn't write out a full script, but we
did do a draft and we did align it with
some of the themes.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
That are out there.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So let's talk about the actual organizers and let's talk
about the TEX chapters. How do soon to BEX speakers
select the right chapter? What places would you recommend for
them to find the events that they need to apply
to so they can share so they can kind of
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craft their manuscript or their draft.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I should say, around that theme. Where do they find
these events?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Well, the official events that already planned are on ted
dot com. You can just go to the website, go
to the event sections and go to the sections with
the teTeX events and there are a list of events
which you can attend and you can see you can
click there and see where the event is in each country,
(21:08):
in which city, and oftentimes they write the theme of
the event, sometimes they don't, so you can just google.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Okay, and this is what it No.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Let me jump in real quick on that, Marina, because
one challenge that we get from people that have been
a part of this journey with me is that when
they go to the TED website, they feel like it's
just not enough information, Like they'll give them like a
name of an event, but there's not necessarily whether or
not they're accepting applications. They gives you another link, and
(21:42):
then that link doesn't give you the information that you want.
So when you're working with your clients, how do you
help them to solve that problem?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Let me ask you the question, what kind of information
I'm looking for?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So most of the folks are really just looking for
the timeline of when these events are accepting applications. Oftentimes,
like on the big map on the ted dot com right,
there's a map and then you click to your area
and it'll show you all of the chapters, but it's
very plain. It'll give you like the organizer's name, the
(22:20):
city that it's in, and then then you go onto Google.
Let me type in the name of the event. Now
you're searching on your own. So that's the challenge that
many of the people in this community face, and we
try to help them to share active applications with them
weekly on our newsletter that folks can sign up for
(22:41):
at landetalk dot com. But I think that there's got
to be a better way, you know what I mean.
And I just wanted to see from one of the
experts what you recommend for people to do.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Actually, you do the right thing, and people get very
lazy do not when they do not do their work.
That's exactly where I would starts website and as you say,
they may have the name of the event, they may
have the location, and then you google. But now this
(23:13):
is the main work. So on the tech website you
first you have the date of the event. The majority
of the events it depends, so their Tech Standards events
and their university youth events. There's the one which people
usually apply for at the end of the year that
women events like special category where you can apply if
(23:35):
your talk is related to women's topic or maybe you're
a woman you want to talk about something also related
to women. And then these are a few events where
you can apply and get accepted. There are a few
other tetics events where people just do not accept you.
And then when you find out your event and location,
(23:57):
you google. Another thing that you also mentioned, which people
can find on the ted dot com website is the
organizer and here is what you do. When you google,
you find the website. Some tetics events do not have website,
but the big events, like for example Tetics Planta, they
(24:18):
have their events. They have a lot of they have
the community, they have a Facebook group. You can find
this information find like more information about the events that
you want to apply for. There are small events like
use for example. Usually they're much smaller because they are
four teenagers for they are hosted maybe in school. Sometimes
(24:41):
I have adults. So you can be a speaker a
tectics use too. This is a very important thing to
remember if you maybe not experienced speaker, or maybe you
don't want to invest that much time to become a
techics speaker, because again thinking about the long term investments
becoming a tech speaker, one of the things that will
(25:03):
be very credible for you as a person, as a
personal brand, is just to have this mark that you're
a tech speaker. Even this will be a good thing.
So you can save yourself some time and it will
be easier actually to apply and maybe get accepted for
TETXS youth event if it's in your community. Then TEXS
(25:27):
universities and telex standards they are harder to get to
and some of them are big. And then you search.
You need to find the date when they start the
start the application, when they look for the speakers. Not
every website will have it. Not every Facebook group or
(25:48):
sometimes I even write it on the tax page on
the teed dot com website. Not every place will have it,
but try to find it. If not, you look for
the tex organizer's name, search for them on LinkedIn, or
maybe you also can google them. You need to do
your research. It's the best way. If you really want
(26:08):
to get accepted for a text talk, search as much
as you as you possibly can about the event, the organizer,
the theme. Because when you will craft your application, you
want to craft it the way that your tech talk
and use an expert, because you're an expert. Even if
if you don't think about yourself this way, you are
(26:31):
an expert. You need to position yourself that way. You
will help. You will support the theme of the event. If,
for example, TETX event does not have a theme specific thing,
for example Cambridge, they do not have a theme, you
can apply sometimes within a year. They don't have a
(26:54):
deadline too. They just decide, oh, we're going to host
the event on this date, and they don't tell you
the deadline. They don't have right now. I think they
don't have an even the application before they head it now.
I don't think they have it, but it happens. And
how do you know that You do your research. If
(27:14):
they do not talk to consultants coaches like you and I,
then you need to do your homework and you make
a list of the events where you can apply, where
your topic feed the team, or where you can adjust
your topic to their team.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
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Speaker 3 (28:26):
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Speaker 2 (28:27):
I want to just jump in on this really quick,
so because I think it's profound that when asked how
we can simplify the process. I love that you said
that people need to put in the work, because you know,
if people have the resources where they can help, have
someone to help them and guide them, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
That's always like a secret right to pay the person
who's done the thing to teach you how to do it,
So that makes sense. But I love the idea of
taking the stairs, like skipping the la doing the hard
work and taking the stairs to your goal.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I think that will make it more rewarding.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
But also I think in that process you'll learn so
much about yourself.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I love that. One more question.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I want to make sure I get this in because
this is something that comes up a.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Lot for people who are new to the TED and
ted X space.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
They want to know the difference between TED and TEDx.
And I don't think I've had any of our guests
really dive into this. And I believe you have a
video about this, so this is a topic that you're
comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Talk to me quickly.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
About the differences or the difference between a TED and
a TEDx event and where speakers should be trying to
apply or get on stage four.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
It's very easy, such an easy question. I'll try to
be insured on this. So the TED is the main company.
A lot of people confuse get confused between TED and
a TEDx event, and they think the TEDx event is
a TED too. It's not the official TED event. The
tet conference is held usually in April in Vancouver, Canada.
(30:09):
Then also tet organization, the main company, have a few
more events during the year, like TED Women is held
at the end of the year. That's why if you
apply for the teTeX to Women category, it's usually also
at the end of the year around the official TED event.
So the TED event is the huge conference. The tickets
(30:31):
are from five thousand dollars and five thousand dollars is
if you've never been there and you apply and you
get a special price. Usually it's like ten thousand dollars
and up just to attend the event. Now for you
as a speaker, you can apply for both. You can
apply for TED event and tetexx event. For TED event,
(30:51):
they look for speakers also any time. But the thing is,
if you don't have the experience, I would still suggest
you start with the teTeX events. The TETX events is
the smaller events with the tet concept. So what happened
when TED organizers started hosting these events, regular people say
(31:15):
that we want to learn more, we also want to
watch them. We want to have these ideas in our communities.
So they started giving the license, the license for smaller
local events where it can be anywhere in the world.
It can be in any country and pretty much anyone
can get this license. And of course the teTeX event
(31:38):
in your hometown if you're listening to it. Either way,
this is one of the secrets. If you want to
become a tetch speaker, and if it's somewhere far away
from US city, find a person organization who can organize
the tetxs event. They can get a license and maybe
(31:59):
you can becomes speaker there. It's an option and the difference.
Another difference, big difference between a and a tatics event
is the tet event is huge. There are a lot
of people. teTeX events are usually limited by one hundred
people with some exceptions. So the tatox organizers who went
(32:23):
to official TED event, they can have a special license
and host more than one hundred people. When people think, oh,
I'm going to give it tatek stock and a lot
of people will see me. That's not really the case.
Oftentimes there will be one hundred people, maybe some extra
stuff here and there, but not that much. And the
(32:46):
effect of the tech stock will be when it gets
published on like the main effect. So it's not for
the audience. This is a very important thing. You craft
your tetech stock, not for the audience who will be
in the auditorium where you will actually perform, but for
those who will watch your tech stock. And then if
(33:07):
you apply for the tech event, of course, the competitions
there is much higher if you apply, for example, for
a tetechs event.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Well this has been all very valuable, Marina, But I
feel like we could probably spend hours talking about this stuff.
So before we get out of here, talk to that
person who's listening right now. They've never applied, and maybe
they're having some doubts whether or not they should apply.
Talk to them about how this could change their life.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Well, you pointed a very important thing. If you have doubts,
if you're not sure if you should apply. You know,
I talked to a lot of people and some of
them are like navy seals. Marina officers, people from the
big corporations, and all of them have doubts. And when
you look at them, like you tell yourself that you
(34:03):
can share something. No, if you have a message you
really want to share it, then go for it. Do
your search. Maybe it's not right now at this moment,
but now you've got a lot of information to think about.
To think about your idea, how it will serve you,
how you will serve other people, because it's not about you,
it's about the idea that will help other people. And
(34:27):
then just start doing it.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Just just start. It's funny. Sometimes people come to me.
I'm like, oh, there's application in a few weeks. Should
I apply? Of course you should. What bad thing can happen?
Apply and see if they will say no, or maybe
they will not reply to you, and so what try again.
But this is the step of you know, overcoming your fear.
(34:56):
And you may think like, oh, maybe my idea is
not that value. Then talk about it with other people.
If it's meaningful for other people, then it's worth trying.
Maybe you can touch some other people in the audience
or when your talk will be published online. Who knows.
You never know, but you will never know until you
(35:17):
try it.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
That is great.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Well, listen, Marina, if folks want to get in contact
with you or test out or try out your service
to see if you're a good fit, how can they
find you?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Well, you can go to Marinabarieva dot com. That's my website.
But the best thing you can you can do and
it will give you just step by step roadmap of
what to prepare, how to prepare the necessary thing that
you need to prepare for your application, and what to
do after you get accepted. Is you can go to
(35:53):
marinabarieva dot com forward slash that guide. You can feel
you name there your email and you'll get a guide
that will lead you through that. And I also send
you more tips on how you can become a thet expecer,
how to craft your talk and everything that will support
your journey.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Awesome, and we'll have all of those links for you
folks in the description and show notes of the episode. Marina,
this has been super fun. I hope that I can
have you on for season two. Would you come back
to the.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Show absolutely, let me know when we'd love.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
To have you. Well, we'll see you next time.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Thank you so much, Thank you, so much,
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