December 18, 2024 • 57 mins
Tonight we have a special message from Dan Zetterstrom UAP/UFO researcher in the UK and we are going to recap some news on the current Drone Situation.
About Director Darcy Weir
Diving into the chaos of UFOTwitter like a fearless spelunker, Darcy Weir is a documentary filmmaker who over the past two decades has chosen to explore some of the most intriguing topics of discussion today, including UFOs, Cryptids, and even Bitcoin. He has completed over 15 feature-length documentaries on these topics, all of which are available on Amazon Prime and Apple. His goal is to make the world of UFOs more accessible to the general public by shedding light on the subject in new ways. Enjoy fresh conversations with him on Twitter. Join the Twitter Space to share in the conversation.
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About Andy Marcial
Andy is a researcher of 20+ yrs who was forced down the rabbit hole after very personal and life changing close encounters which started in Puerto Rico. His entire life, all he has done, is try to understand what he saw and why he went through what he went through. It changed him and showed him that there is an entire reality out there beyond human comprehension. It also drove him to reach out to others like himself because of how psychologically damaging this can be. He also recently leaked three Department of Homeland Security videos to the public, which were controversial, but officially recognized as UAP by Customs and Border Patrol in August of 2023. Andy doesn't do what he does for any other reason than to open the minds of anyone willing to listen and to show those affected by this phenomenon that they are not alone.
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/ @ufocompilation
About Director Darcy Weir
Diving into the chaos of UFOTwitter like a fearless spelunker, Darcy Weir is a documentary filmmaker who over the past two decades has chosen to explore some of the most intriguing topics of discussion today, including UFOs, Cryptids, and even Bitcoin. He has completed over 15 feature-length documentaries on these topics, all of which are available on Amazon Prime and Apple. His goal is to make the world of UFOs more accessible to the general public by shedding light on the subject in new ways. Enjoy fresh conversations with him on Twitter. Join the Twitter Space to share in the conversation.
Links
Amazon: https://amzn.to/3wHv7JJ
Apple TV: https://apple.co/3TlQQ2Q
https://x.com/occultjourneys
/ darcyweirfilms
/ @occultjourneys
About Andy Marcial
Andy is a researcher of 20+ yrs who was forced down the rabbit hole after very personal and life changing close encounters which started in Puerto Rico. His entire life, all he has done, is try to understand what he saw and why he went through what he went through. It changed him and showed him that there is an entire reality out there beyond human comprehension. It also drove him to reach out to others like himself because of how psychologically damaging this can be. He also recently leaked three Department of Homeland Security videos to the public, which were controversial, but officially recognized as UAP by Customs and Border Patrol in August of 2023. Andy doesn't do what he does for any other reason than to open the minds of anyone willing to listen and to show those affected by this phenomenon that they are not alone.
Links
/ ny_uap_discussion
/ @ufocompilation
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Two hundred years ago, two thousand years ago. This isn't
going to work.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
She's picking up a massive object in this video.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Ships that might be closed.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I can sense them in my vicinity, So I guess
I'm just very tuned in.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Bulkan Head Honcho walks out ear reveal. Yeah, the crowd goes, oh,
my God. Was to protect the secrets from the Air
Force that were not out there in the public. So
(00:47):
hello everybody, I am back with another KGRA radio last
night on UFO Twitter. So tonight we are actually going
to be doing a bit of a drone update, but
we're also going to be discussing some other stuff happening
(01:09):
on UFO Twitter. I hate to be like the bearer
of bad news, and I hate to be somebody that's,
you know, possibly going to be saying controversial things. But
the truth is the truth, right, and everybody's truth is,
(01:30):
let's say, a little bit more skewed these days. A
lot of things are happening, a lot of change, and
I don't blame anybody for their own version of the truth.
It's just sad when it's you know, completely bonkers what
(01:57):
people are saying these days, and when is when is
the truth you know something we want to protect. When
is it just one person's truth or I just feel
like consensus reality is kind of being thrown out the
(02:19):
window right now. And I'm a little bit worried about
how people may be getting their information and just taking
it for granted. You know, like what can I say?
(02:44):
I mean, we don't live in like a perfect world
and everybody wants to speak their peace. But the UFO,
the UFO community can be its own worst enemies sometimes.
I am having some issues with my computer today. So
(03:07):
if you see some video leg but you hear me,
you know, stand by. I'm going to be connecting to
my Twitter space here and I'm gonna I'm gonna pipe
in some people here. Hey, Twitter folks, how's everybody doing?
(03:29):
I am bringing in. I'm gonna bring you on to
KGr for the night, and we are going to start
discussing some information that Dan Zetterstrom has brought to brought
(03:49):
to me. But you know, there's lots of other people
out there that probably know this. I just wanted to
give a bit of an update. We've got people coming
into the Twitter space right now and I'm just gonna
wait for Andy Marciel, who's one of the co hosts.
(04:10):
I'm gonna invite my friend Jason who's at UAP Studies
as a co host for tonight, everybody if you if
you want to follow a really good YouTube account, check
out UAP Studies. Fellow Canadian, great guy. We got Dale
(04:34):
coming up. Dale's gonna do his thing and kind of discuss,
you know, something positive and then we'll just get right
into it. And he think I can see him coming
in there, coming in here. Oh boy. Lots of interesting
(05:00):
things going on, man, lots and lots. There we go.
We got a little disclosure memes there. So let me
just get Andy up here. Are you guys hearing me? Hello?
(05:25):
You can hear me? Okay? Cool? So we're just waiting
for Andy.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Dale.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Let me know if if everything's you can hear okay? Dale, Brother,
why don't you take it away, start off the space
with your wonderful words of wisdom, as we always do
with our shows, and and then I'm gonna get to
(05:58):
some other stuff that we need to discuss tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I would love to Today's catchphrase is give more and
take less. I mean, think about it. It's the season
of giving. If you haven't already done it. I'm sure
you're in the process of buying Christmas presents for your
family members, your loved ones, and your friends. To think
about this. That's an act of giving. Now here's how
(06:26):
much people gave this time last year.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
In twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Three, nine hundred and sixty four point four billion dollars
was spent on Christmas presents. I mean, think about that.
That was like almost a trillion dollars. But it's worth it.
I said, it's worth it.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
How do I know it?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Just by watching the kids. I love seeing their little
eyes light up as they open their favorite toy on
Christmas warning. I mean that's priceless. If that doesn't get
to you, nothing will. It's just a reminder to give
more and take less. The cool thing about giving is
what you get back in return. I mean, it makes
(07:09):
you feel so good on the inside. For example, years ago,
I was helping a church in Boise, Idaho, and one
of the things that we did is we'd take Christmas
presents to single parent homes And it was amazing when
we got there and we knocked on the door and
the mom would open the door in the second she
saw us, tears would just start running down her face
(07:31):
as she realized that there would be presents under the
Christmas tree, that the kids would be able to open
presents on Christmas morning. Let me tell you something, There's
no drug that can give you that feeling. I said,
there's no drug that can give you that feeling. Now
here's another reason why we need to give more and
take less. It helps us to not be selfish or
(07:54):
self consumed. In other words, it's good for us. Now wondering, well,
how exactly does that apply to the UAP community. Well,
here's an idea. I think we should take a collection
for John Kirby, the White House Press Secretary.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I think we need to buying some hearing aids.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
For some reason, he's not able to hear what the
mayor and the state officials in New Jersey are telling
him about these drone incursions. You can't seem to hear.
So I think maybe we should take a collection and
get him some hearing aids. All kidding aside, how about this,
how about the next time you are in a conflict
with someone on X how about you take a pause.
(08:33):
How about you even do this? You offer to buy
a coffee from Dutch Brothers for them, and then you
watch what happens. Remember it's the season of giving, and
so give more and take less. Some of you are wondering,
how do we get to disclosure? Maybe the answer is
to give more and take less. Maybe just maybe those
(08:57):
who think we're not ready for disclosure, or those who
don't think that we can handle disclosure, maybe they'll see
that we can. Let's show them that we are ready
by giving more and taking less.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Give more and take less. I like that message. Look,
you can give somebody something and not expect anything back.
I think I've probably, just like many people around the world,
(09:34):
have given a lot, and I think deep down everybody
kind of expects something back. But to give something to
somebody is your the truest love language, right, It's it's
your way of saying I care. And I think everybody here,
(09:58):
I think a lot of people that I've surrounded my
my self with they do care. Not everybody cares, you know,
And some people take and they don't give back. That's fine, no,
no worries. Maybe down the road they'll they'll see your
value and see that you meant well, and they'll eventually
(10:22):
give back. But I think Twitter is totally screwed up.
I think a lot of people are having a hard
time connecting to the space tonight. Yeah, and I had
to go.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I had come in a couple of different times, and
then the last time it finally worked.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Yeah, it's uh yeah, it's cutting in and out for audio.
I had issues. I'm not sure if that was on
my end or if it was Twitter or what it was,
but I was unable to hear Dale at first, and
then I had to come back in.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Here we go. We got NYUAP discussion coming in here.
I'll invite him to co hosts or speak. I just
want to say, Hi, everybody, Hey, how's it going, Jason.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's coming pretty good, Tiresy.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I was gonna say, because we're in Canada, we don't
seem to be having this technical issues. Maybe the drones
are affecting everybody's you know, X spaces this evening.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You know, Nah, it's Twitter is a bag of nuts, man.
It just sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But people
are hearing us on Facebook right now. We got one
hundred and seventy five people tuned in from the interwebs
(11:54):
and different locations, like either it's people showing up on Twitter,
people showing up on Facebook, YouTube, there's a few people
piping through and yeah, like and then we got the
peeps here that are in Twitter on Twitter. Yeah, it's
(12:17):
really weird though, just like seeing all the issues Andy,
how you doing, man? What's up?
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I had to I had to literally start a new
account just to join his damn space because it wouldn't
let me in.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
That's insane. Well, we're glad you're here anyways. So ny
UAP discussion. Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
The first thing I wanted to kind of discuss is
an update I got from Dan Zetterstrom. So Dan, like myself,
likes his sleep. He's in the UK. It's probably like
two o'clock in the morning or something there right now.
So I got him to play. Yeah, I got him
(13:02):
to pre record a message, and this is about the
remember the ORB video that was recorded over Manchester International
Airport not too long ago. Yeah, so that that video
(13:24):
has been a point of contention in the UFO community
for a little while now, and it just so happens
that Dan got the inside scoop on that video. He
posted on Twitter not not too long ago and like
yesterday basically, and he actually spoke to the pilot that
(13:46):
recorded that video from withinside of the cockpit. He also
had a chance to you know, look at the photo
and and all that stuff. He got the metadata. So
this is actually pretty important because whenever we see UFO footage,
(14:06):
it's usually just like TikTok, Instagram, uh, YouTube, and we
don't know if that video has been tampered the the
source content. You know, we don't know where it's been.
There's no let's say, chain of custody for the history
of that video. When you have the metadata, you know
(14:30):
the date, time, the location it was recorded, and on
what kind of device. So I see Carlos's hand there.
I'm just about to play the Dan Zetterstrom message. Is
there something Carlos you want to talk about real quick?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (14:50):
Hi, everyone, I just wanted to let you know that
there's a lot of people that the space has been
glitching and they've been they keep getting kicked out of
the room.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
So should I like stop the space and then jump
back in or what do I do in this case?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
That could be a.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
Solution, but I mean, I don't know, I don't know
what to do in this case.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
Mine, it was like the sound is just cutting off completely.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
It seems like they're like there was. It seems like
there's been a cyber attack over the weekend too, because
there was Instagram was down, Facebook was down, chut gpt
was down, a whole bunch of other sites were down
as well. So yeah, it seems like we're either under
a cyber attack or uh just getting over one.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, so that might be it. Well, all of this
stuff that's happening is very relevant, I think. I think
there's a lot of stuff going on. I feel like
I got to do this space for KGr anyways, and
we're going to discuss what we're going to discuss for
(15:57):
the next fifty minutes or so. I'd love to have
people jump in and be active, But if they can't
because things are getting really glitchy, maybe I'll just reap,
you know, for the last half of the space. I'll
relaunch it. I don't know. But here's the thing, Dan's
got a message for us. So I see people jumping in,
(16:21):
getting booted out and all that stuff, but I can't
really do anything about it right now, just because it
would interrupt the flow with the show. Carlos, did you
want to tell me one thing there?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Brother?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Is that a glitchy hand?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:42):
It's probably a glitchy hand because I.
Speaker 9 (16:43):
Didn't have mine.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Not okay, frig man. Anyways, I'm gonna play this message
from Dan Zetterstrom, and this is regarding the drone over
Manchester International Airport. Okay.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
Not too long ago someone released some photos that a colleague,
a pilot, had given him whilst at Manchester Airport. The
photos showed a mysterious object on the ground and there
was also a video of the object in the air.
(17:19):
The object on the ground was resting on the runway
and the photos were taken from a cockpit of an airplane.
It has been discussed whether this photo and video were hoaxed,
what they showed, and whether we could even prove if
they were real. Skeptics have put forward many, many different solutions,
(17:46):
and Manchester Airport eventually issued a statement saying that the
photos were in fact hoaxed. Once the photos were out,
I reached out to the gentleman who posted them, who,
after posting them, deleted his account. He was able to
send me the original files with the metadata attached, and
(18:08):
those files prove and equivocally that the photos are genuine.
I can't really speak to what the objects the object is,
but I can absolutely say that the photos and the
video are real. They are not hoxed in any way,
shape or form. Now, there's been a lot of discussion
(18:29):
around this case because the meta data wasn't provided, and
the meta data usually provides things like location and date
and time. This kind of clues us into you know
where and when it happened, and it can help with
analysis of the photos and videos. In most UFO cases,
(18:49):
you want to see this kind of meta states provided
before you start diving in, because it's really hard to
prove the authenticity of something without it. When the person
uploaded these files to the Internet, he didn't include the
MATS data and that caused a whole bunch of well
arguing in the community between the usual figures, I just
(19:10):
wanted to give this statement to say that they are real.
The fact that the person who posted them's account was
deleted after the fact doesn't mean they were hoaxed. It
simply reflects the fact that the gentleman was concerned for
his job. These images garnered a lot of attention. They
(19:32):
kind of went into various places like the Daily Mail,
and if you can use the mat stats to trace
back to where when they were taking you can figure
out the plane and therefore who the pilot was, and
really narrow it down as to who took them. Now
I'm told that the pilot shouldn't be taking pictures from
(19:54):
inside the carpit, and therefore the person's job was at risk.
So this person was kind of happy for the photos
to just go away. Really, something else that the person
who provided me the photos addressed was the fact that
sometimes in the UFO community we have a kind of
(20:18):
a passion we'll say, for get into the bottom of something,
and so we want all the details and we dig
in on things really fast. I hadn't really considered it,
so I'll speaking to this gentleman. But that kind of
ravenous appetite which is, you know, caused by the lack
of information out there, which isn't the gentleman's fault. This
is because of the DoD not being transparent, as we're
(20:40):
seeing with the kind of drone flaps in the UK
and Germany and America and so on and so forth
across the USA. Basis, the lack of information causes that
hunger for information to come across as kind of entitled.
And I think we should all be a little bit
(21:01):
more sensitive towards these experiences and towards people providing media
evidence of these experiences. We should be a little more
gentle and consider the human on the other side, it's
not always about stigma. Sometimes people don't care if it
shows a real UFO or an alien or something like that.
(21:22):
They just want to get to the bottom of it.
And that was the case in this in the Manchester
Airport objects. I know people say, oh, but I'll just
say object because I really don't know what it is photos,
But yes, I can absolutely say they are real photos
and videos. The person who took them their job would
(21:43):
be at risk if it kind of, you know, came
out that they were taking pictures while in the cockpit
and the person who posted them kind of just wishes
for this to go away. Like I said, it's worth
remembering the human angle when we're ravenous for answers, and
(22:03):
all the while bear in mind that though we may
have a hunger, it doesn't always entitle us to all
the information. For various reasons that have nothing to do
with hoaxes and stigma around the UFO issue, people just
want to get to the bottom of the mystery, and
that's understandable, but piling on and just immediately declaring it's
(22:26):
UAP it's anomalous doesn't always help the issue anyway. That's
all the information I have on that citing and thank
you for having me for what it's worth. If you
know this set of context. The person speaking here, I
am Dan Zettas from you all know me from the
(22:47):
breakdown on that uile for podcast and the forthcoming show
what it Means to Be Human.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
There you have it, folks, So we do have Dan's
report on that UFO video once. I'm just gonna turned
down some of that source audio there. Uh, Jason, and
I guess Jason from UAP studies your co host and here, buddy,
(23:17):
do you got do you get the ability to see
who's asking to come up and stuff like that?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Well, right now I see what there's eight of us
that I could see on my screen. I don't see
anybody requesting the hands up, but again they might be.
We might just not be able to see it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, it's uh, it's kind of kind of messed up.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Bro tru.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, you just glitched out big time. I don't know
what you just said. Andy, are you like on the road. Yeah,
he's on the road.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
They got him.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
They got him. The m ib's all right, So who's
who wants to chat? I mean, Lama, Lama, jump up
whatever you want. Yeah, we can hear you. Does sound
like you're.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
In a talk.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Anyways, It's so weird because when I'm looking on Twitter,
I see the live on X feed on the right
and it says that two hundred and thirteen plus people
are in this space right now, and.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
Like, you know, I don't see I don't see anybody
who's not an I don't see anybody who's knows it's
gonna say the same thing.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I don't see somebody who's loves Just shows me five people.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
It's probably there's a probably people listening right now, but
you know, we're talking, so if they asked to be
a speaker, maybe that's when. I don't know. But anyways,
Dan had that update on that Manchester International Airport UFO.
What do you guys think of that? I think it's
(25:13):
pretty interesting that this pilot actually took that, took that video,
took these pictures, but he's just frightened to lose his job.
They're not supposed to take that stuff when they're in
the cabin apparently, especially Yeah, especially when they're on the tarmac,
(25:33):
probably because they're you know, they got to be super
aware of other planes and so on, so forth. Dale,
I've got your hand up here. What do you think, Bud.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
One thing I didn't hear. Maybe I missed it, but
I wanted to add that there's some confusion and it
was brought up I heard him speaking yesterday, and that
was that this is that a spear that was seen
in Westminster or whatever the name of the place was,
that was a couple months ago, that wasn't at the
(26:11):
same time as the drone sightings, and so that's one
of the misinformation that he wanted to make sure that
he clarified. I didn't hear it when he talked about
it this time, and so I wanted to make sure
I covered that that this is not related to the
drone incursions, right.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
So something I was on a space with jas earlier
today and Digby, who does the Man on the Run podcast,
quite eloquently stated that November twentieth to November twenty sixth
of this year is when this drone incursion activity really
(26:48):
started to kick off in a big way, and that
was in the UK. That was over Royal Air Force
laken Heath, Royal Air Force Middle Hall, Mildenhall and the
Royal Air Force felt Well and Fairford UH air bases.
(27:10):
So if we look at what actually happened in chronology,
historically we launched like the US and the UK they
launched ballistic missiles into Russia just before that from Ukraine
and Russia said that they were going to retaliate. Today
(27:37):
we just killed the Russian like biologics and nuclear warfare. General,
there was an attack and they blew up a building
he was in. Ah so a scooter. Yeah, it was
a scooter or scooter scooter Yeah, yeah, it was a scooter.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
And the scooter was.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Was near.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
It was it was about a few blocks away from
the Presidential Palace. And it's absolutely crazy what they did.
I mean, that could have turned way worse than just
killing one general.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, but I think so. The point is, though, Aaron,
is that we are basically in the midst of what
seems like a war, okay, and everybody's everybody's quite aware
of the drone situation. We are getting drones. There are
(28:40):
man made drones all over the United States being cited
right now. There have been announcements from officials. We have
heard an announcement from I think it was the CBP
and and that like an intelligence agency said yesterday that
(29:07):
there are no weapons of mass destruction, destruction lost or loose,
that these drones are sniffing for right.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
They wouldn't disclose that either way, that that would be
information that's not.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I can't well Burchat said that it wasn't true.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
You know, yeah, I think we're getting a lot of
communication from people now that that is a rumor. And
straight up over the weekend, I was I was getting
information that it was possible, and I was sending it
to friends because I was scared, worried about where things
(29:50):
could go. Andy could meet your mic brother.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
I was just gonna say, Kat, please raise your hand
before you speak.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
I have been raising my hand.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
It's not appearing.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
It's all good. It's all good. Don't worry about it.
So I'm just trying to discuss all these things. But
at the same time that we're seeing all these drones
over New Jersey, you know, Nevada, Arizona, now everywhere, it's
it's just happening like all across the United States. I'm
(30:26):
getting friends sending me videos from like Australia on Instagram
and stuff like that. What is happening, in my opinion
is we are basically at war, and it seems that
there's the media trying to prevent like an outright panic
(30:51):
of this situation by getting out to the general public
and you know basically markets crashing, you know, business world
being worried. But at the same time that all this
stuff is happening, I think the drone activity would be Look,
(31:13):
here's the truth. These days, we have aircraft carriers, we
have you know, ballistic long range missiles and thermal nuclear
warheads that can be launched from submarines and all that stuff.
But the truth is the military is starting to literally
(31:36):
invest in less of that super dinosaur big budget military equipment,
and they're going after drone tech, satellite tech, lasers like
space based warfare stuff. This is the honest truth that
is that's I don't even know if plasma like so,
(32:02):
I'm I'm convinced. I'm sure. I'm sure that they're using
all kinds of different warfare means, but I'm just saying
they can put their money into drone warfare tech and
that goes so much further right now, because it's lower cost,
(32:25):
it's unmanned, it can be flown autonomously and pre programmed
to carry out certain objectives from a computer terminal and
come right back to where it flew off from and
get recharged to do its next mission.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I don't even know if you need drone operators these days.
Probably for some models you do, so I'm just throwing
out my opinion of that situation. I also think it's
very possible that because people are looking at the sky
so much now, they're so focused on all this drone activity,
(33:08):
that they're seeing real UAPs, they're seeing UFOs. I mean,
if you're going to be turning your eyes to the
sky that much, you're going to notice more things, Right.
You're going to notice satellites, You're going to notice planes,
You're going to notice weird looking drones. So on top
(33:30):
of that, we also have a bit of hysteria where
people are literally seeing planes or seeing satellites or seeing
drones and they're calling it aliens or whatever. Right, I
(33:50):
believe there are extraterrestrials. I believe there is non human intelligence.
I'm fully with the community on that, right, But I
think that just like Dan was saying in his message,
Dan Zetterstrom, we're kind of becoming our own worst enemy
at ruling out certain things and going with the strongest evidence.
(34:16):
I mean, people have been saying that this is the
Project Bluebeam playbook. Right dude, we are like at war
with Russia right now the West. Okay, it has nothing
to do that. All that drone activity like this is
(34:38):
how wars are going to be fought in the future,
And this is how you're going to protect your country
and protect your land, your ground, your air, Like drones
are going to be thrown up in swarms all around
countries to protect May.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
I say something, Darcy, Yeah, well, you know, as a veteran,
I'm really stuff that none of our politicians have. I mean,
they're all saying different things, they're different narratives. And burt
Ched just recently, Yeah, I get it that we're probably
at war with Russia, dead on, But Burtched just said,
(35:18):
I think it was yesterday that the Chinese have brought
up a lot of land close to our basis here.
How the hell have we permitted that in the first place.
That is a major failure. And I fear that, you know,
a lot of this obfiscation and a lot of dishonesty
that's coming from the government is them trying to protect
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themselves from us finding out their failure and basically their
their very first task, which is our protection. How can
you let an enemy by land close to our defenses,
close to our basis. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
I'm glad you brought that up. I'm sorry, Darcy. I
just want to take something really quick. I'm glad you
brought that up, because I mean, I don't think a
lot of people are really paying attention to that, and
I don't want to sound like, you know, fear monger
or conspiracy theorists, you know. But what I'm about to say,
but I almost get the impression like someone is allowing
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it to happen. You understand, like I think they they
damn well know that Chinese are buying all this land
out and it's being allowed to happen because it's obvious
they're the enemy. It's obvious they're not our ally, so
why would you allow it? You understand the fact that
it has been happening to me smells like it's been
(36:47):
it's been allowed to happen, and it's been allowed to
get to this point.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I would agree with you on that. I think why
it's been allowed to happen is purely for profit. It
like the greed economy. You know, we want to sell
as much as we can sell the shirt right off
your back if it's going to make you a good
amount of money. And so I think there's it's not
(37:15):
just in the United States, like Jason probably even knows this.
In Canada, China got busted because they were buying like
all this these companies in Canada which owned large parts
of land and strategic resources. So for example Canada, we
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provide a ton of potash, which is, you know, an
integral ingredient to create really powerful fertilizer around the world.
And fertilizers make our crops and we grow our food,
and so it's part of that whole process to supply
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the world with potash. Well, in Saskatchewan, the province of Saskatchewan,
Chinese companies have been flooding in and buying all the
potash companies and kind of taking over the potash strategic
reserve of this part of the world. There's three other
(38:16):
places in the world that they produced potash in large amounts,
and you know, the Canadian government kind of said no,
and I think they even took the companies and took
the land back and said you can't do this. We
also had I don't know if people heard about this,
(38:37):
you can look this up. The Canadian government busted China
because at one point they were setting up their own
police stations within Canada secretly, and they were going after
wealthy people or people of influence or fuguretives of the
(39:01):
law from their own country that had fled to Canada.
And they were basically committing their own external arrests within
our country.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
And policing within within Canada. There was Chinese government policing
within our own country.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, so you know, you guys could say wherever you
want about Trudel, it's fine. You know, everybody loves to
hate him. But he exposed that, and you know, there's
a Canadian intelligence group that or service that's kind of
like our FBI ceases. They exposed that to the government
(39:41):
and then the government started like outlawing and kicking these
Chinese nationals out of our country that were setting up
police stations that were like basically Chinese national intelligence agents
operating and setting up like Syria intelligence business within Canada.
(40:05):
So look like we've talked about that, We've like the
drone issue to me is threefold. It is one partly
to do with something that's going on internationally in terms
of world power conflict. I'm I think it's true. I'm
(40:30):
not saying that there is like a loose nuclear bomb
or something like that. I hope the hell there isn't
you know, because I did. You know, it's part of
the historical record that twenty nukes went missing in Ukraine
and intelligence agencies apparently still don't know where those are,
(40:52):
and that was back a couple months back now, so
you can look that up. But you know, you got
Ryan Grabs going on. Joe Rogan. He's saying he's talked
to all the who's who and intelligence and border security
and you know, weapons anti weapons of mass destruction, security
(41:18):
and stuff, and they're all telling him that's just a
bad rumor, it's not true. I hope he's right. I
hope they were telling him the truth. I hope they know.
But I think I still think the drone situation is
a symptom of something they don't want us to know.
(41:40):
Is it they're searching for UAPs in the sky that
have that we're having a UAP incursion. Are they ua
vs from another country? People have denied that, they've said
no to that, but we know they're up there and
everybody's taking this video footage of it, and it's becoming
(42:02):
a serious problem. So you know, let's just keep it
real and and be honest about the situation and not
like super delusional. I feel like that it goes there
sometimes can I say something, Yeah, somebody look at the
hands for me and let me know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
So if the US was to acknowledge that this was China,
we'd be at war with China. So they're playing this
this kind of game where it's a balancing act of
transparency and also watching these drones in the sky and
this this is my speculation that they're using word technology,
(42:50):
which is reverse engineer technology from from an any any
shy or plasma plasma balls to take out these drones
in the sky. We saw several videos, some out of
New Jersey, some out of I think it was Arizona
where there's these orbs shooting drones out of the sky.
And I think there was also a video that came
(43:11):
out in the UK as well. That was very similar.
So over the weekend a lot of people are unaware too,
we actually had a major cyber attack that took off Facebook, Instagram, Chat,
GBT and a number of other services. So that's following
(43:36):
the Chinese dragging a anchor for miles I think it
was like one hundred miles or something like that to
basically destroy a underwater cable Internet cable. And there's a
lot of other things that have been happening with the
Chinese and the US in the South China Sea. So
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there's been a lot of incidents that have happened over
the period of the last couple of months that people
are unaware of. With the Philippines, and there was a
ramming of a ship of a few months ago. It
was a I think it was a cargo ship. There's
(44:21):
there's all these kind of escalations that are happening. And
a few months ago China and Russia do they join
fly by I guess of the above the US and Antarctica,
and they scrambled jets after that happened. So it's not
(44:45):
out of the rema possibility for these to be Chinese drones.
And I said this last week that I had talked
to a source who I used in my Promise series.
He's a former State Department guy, and he said China
as well, and that was about week ago. So I
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believe that these are China. But there is missing nuclear
material that is cited. That happened on December second here
in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Really yeah that but then you know everybody's saying that
that's not true. Well, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
What I heard was it was a medical device and
it does not have the potential. That's what Burchette and
that scientist said.
Speaker 7 (45:33):
So I don't know if that's the exact same thing,
but I know they said it really didn't have any
major threat at whatever that letter was that came out,
if you read it all the way through. If that's
the same thing, I think we need to make sure
that that's clear.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
Yeah, that's uh, that's probably the same thing. But I mean,
it's also possible that these drones have radiological material on them.
There was a spike in radiation and like there was
a you can view kind of the radiation and over
different states, and there was a spike in North Jersey
(46:09):
and New York. So something's going on there.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Okay, So Christian, I think your hands up there, Bud,
do you want to say something.
Speaker 10 (46:23):
Hey, Dorothy, sorry to kind of break the flow. I
just want to let you know that a lot of
people are trying to join to listen into the space
and they're getting kicked out as listeners. So the space
is a big glitch that I was having that trouble,
and people are messaging me asking me why they can't stay.
It keeps saying space closed out.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, yeah, I know that is feedback I've gotten. I've
got all these people messaging me about that. I honestly
have built nine minutes left on KGr, So I think
after the nine minutes, I'll try and like reboot the space.
What do you guys recommend? Do I just like close
(47:01):
the space and or close the Twitter and jump back
in and hit reconnect and reboot, yeah, or do I
end the actual space? I would just end it and
start another one. All right. So there's some other stuff
we could definitely talk about, and uh, I think it
(47:23):
is kind of important. Andy, did you want to kind
of bring up the next topic for discussion?
Speaker 6 (47:34):
I mean, now, just I'm not sure if you guys
heard what Ryan Graves is saying on rogan in regards
to the new thing. He also stated that he spoke
to some sources of his that you know, would have
would have been the ones investing time into researching and
investigating if this was true, and he stated that basically
(47:58):
they told him that that wasn't the case. So I
don't think this is a nuclear thing. I have heard
that the sniffers that are supposedly out in Jersey are
there because there was something legitimate seen in the skies.
And I mean this is from what I this is
(48:19):
what I was told from one of my sources, and
that that's why they were there. They were actually trying
to see where or how you know, what it was
that was up in the sky during that time. But
one thing I was telling Darcy earlier, I think it
was yesterday, was that, you know, the hysteria part of
(48:40):
this is I think important because it kind of gave
us a glimpse of exactly what would happen in the
event of an actual scenario where, let's just hypathetically speaking,
these things actually present themselves if you know, the public
reaction in this way with just this situation, I have
(49:04):
a really good feeling we're really not prepared for an
actual event when the time comes that these you know,
beings or whatever they are, decided they want to present themselves.
But I guess we could talk about that after the
this portion ends.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Actually, I was just going to chime in. The part
that scares me the most is, you know they have
a f what was it in f sixteen twenty two highest,
you know, the best of money can buy for a jet.
This guy gets surrounded by three orbs and they dictate
where he can and can I'll go. They controlled the
flight only three four feet away from his cockpit, and
(49:47):
whatever he did, they mirrored it instantly. Is if they're
locked into his mind again Michael Schoenberg or Schoenberger was
talking about an incident took place on Worship where everybody
on was mesmerized and could not move and just watch
this orb above this military ship. So really, the military
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ship is completely useless if all of your people on
board are just in a trance. So it humbles us
to the point of saying that we could do anything
about it. The Hollywood films like Independence Day, that's a
load of crap and that is never going to happen.
We are at the bottom of the total pole here unfortunately.
(50:30):
But seeing the incompetence of the administration that's currently in power,
that's the part that to me is the biggest offense
is how in nept you know, are these people. They
can't even get anything done. One says one thing, one
says the other. They don't know whether they're coming or going.
And what's happening is going to cause that hysteria that
(50:55):
and he was talking about it is going to create
trust like or lack of confid and it's in our
governments because now we're not getting the answers we believe
they had this whole time, and they're playing stupid or
I know, I don't quite know what the plan here is.
But the states have never looked more bad than they
(51:15):
do right now.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Honestly, I think this is great. Yeah, I think this
is kind of like it's just control, you know, it's
like information management, social control. I think people should be
a little bit worried right now because if they're saying,
(51:39):
if everybody's seeing all this activity in the sky internationally
right now, and the powers that be are constantly saying
there's nothing to see here, nothing to worry about, that
seems like a cop out, and that seems like a
(52:00):
very dangerous thing to be doing, considering you have putin
vowing to strike back, you have China at his back,
you and they've surrounded Taiwan, you know, North Korean soldiers
(52:20):
sent to the to Ukraine, and like it's escalating. Everything
is escalating, and the escalation has gotten to a point
where we see things flying around our skies and they're
still saying, don't worry, there's nothing to worry about. I
would be worried.
Speaker 6 (52:45):
I think that's the worst part, is that it's gotten
to that point where we just don't trust a damn
thing that they say, because it's it's been this way
for so long and people are now, you know, people
finally woken up to it. And I think it's a large,
large in part due to the Internet. You know, it
allowed people to have access to, you know, a vast
(53:06):
array of information. So I don't I think it got
to the point where they're now understanding. They they they're
losing the control that they thought they had with with
the public, which is why we're at where we're at.
And basically nothing, I mean literally every time they speak,
all I hear is lies. You know, it's just you
(53:28):
can't trust them anymore, you know, and that's not a
good thing.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah. I agree. So guys, what do.
Speaker 8 (53:44):
You can has his hand up and then and then.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Myself, Yeah, yeah, I can go for it.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Cat.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
So there's also the fact that Russia walked back their
ambassadorship with the US and all their ambassadors left the
US and I think it was September or October of
this year, and then they did not replace their ambassador.
That's not normal activity, that's like wartime stuff. And that
(54:16):
was after the Biden administration authorized Ukraine the bomb inside
of Russia with long range missiles. So you're kind of
seeing like a crescendo effect of everything happening at once.
And it's not only Taiwan with China, it's also the
Philippines and the South China Sea and kind of that
(54:39):
whole entire situation that's been going back and forth since
the Obama administration, and it's escalated and I think we're
getting to a point. I think what's happening now is
a warning. I think it's a it's a warning to
the US that in the West that you know, we
(54:59):
have of in advanced drones, we have possibly NHI reverse
engineered tech that they're using that is being used to
send a warning message to the West.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Could be very true. I mean, it's one of these
situations where you don't know till Like I feel like
it's gonna be one of these situations where they're not
going to be announcing it on the news or from
the government until it's too late, like till there's actually
(55:39):
battles going on over your skies, you know what I mean.
That's what I'm worried about.
Speaker 6 (55:46):
I Mean, my question is, I won't you know, like
like what needs to happen before you know, like the
United States actually takes some kind of action, Like it
didn't make sense, like with the whole balloon situation, Like
I mean, what are they waiting for before something actually
gets done when things like this occur, you know what
(56:06):
I mean, It's just to me, I don't understand what
the fear of engagement is. Like just doesn't make any
sense to me. You know, it just makes us look
like a bunch of pussies, honestly.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
Fair enough, I mean I think that is a fair assessment.
I'm gonna go off KGr I'm playing my outro here,
so give me a sec here.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
Focus two hundred years ago, two thousand years ago. This
isn't going to work.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
She's picking up a massive object in this video.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Ships that might be closed.
Speaker 4 (56:46):
I can sense them in my vicinity, So I guess
I'm just very tuned in.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
Bulkan Head Honcho walks out ear reveal. Yeah, the crowd goes, oh,
my God. Was to protect the secrets from the Air
Force that were not out there in public, so
Two hundred years ago, two thousand years ago. This isn't
going to work.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
She's picking up a massive object in this video.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Ships that might be closed.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I can sense them in my vicinity, So I guess
I'm just very tuned in.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Bulkan Head Honcho walks out ear reveal. Yeah, the crowd goes, oh,
my God. Was to protect the secrets from the Air
Force that were not out there in the public. So
(00:47):
hello everybody, I am back with another KGRA radio last
night on UFO Twitter. So tonight we are actually going
to be doing a bit of a drone update, but
we're also going to be discussing some other stuff happening
(01:09):
on UFO Twitter. I hate to be like the bearer
of bad news, and I hate to be somebody that's,
you know, possibly going to be saying controversial things. But
the truth is the truth, right, and everybody's truth is,
(01:30):
let's say, a little bit more skewed these days. A
lot of things are happening, a lot of change, and
I don't blame anybody for their own version of the truth.
It's just sad when it's you know, completely bonkers what
(01:57):
people are saying these days, and when is when is
the truth you know something we want to protect. When
is it just one person's truth or I just feel
like consensus reality is kind of being thrown out the
(02:19):
window right now. And I'm a little bit worried about
how people may be getting their information and just taking
it for granted. You know, like what can I say?
(02:44):
I mean, we don't live in like a perfect world
and everybody wants to speak their peace. But the UFO,
the UFO community can be its own worst enemies sometimes.
I am having some issues with my computer today. So
(03:07):
if you see some video leg but you hear me,
you know, stand by. I'm going to be connecting to
my Twitter space here and I'm gonna I'm gonna pipe
in some people here. Hey, Twitter folks, how's everybody doing?
(03:29):
I am bringing in. I'm gonna bring you on to
KGr for the night, and we are going to start
discussing some information that Dan Zetterstrom has brought to brought
(03:49):
to me. But you know, there's lots of other people
out there that probably know this. I just wanted to
give a bit of an update. We've got people coming
into the Twitter space right now and I'm just gonna
wait for Andy Marciel, who's one of the co hosts.
(04:10):
I'm gonna invite my friend Jason who's at UAP Studies
as a co host for tonight, everybody if you if
you want to follow a really good YouTube account, check
out UAP Studies. Fellow Canadian, great guy. We got Dale
(04:34):
coming up. Dale's gonna do his thing and kind of discuss,
you know, something positive and then we'll just get right
into it. And he think I can see him coming
in there, coming in here. Oh boy. Lots of interesting
(05:00):
things going on, man, lots and lots. There we go.
We got a little disclosure memes there. So let me
just get Andy up here. Are you guys hearing me? Hello?
(05:25):
You can hear me? Okay? Cool? So we're just waiting
for Andy.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Dale.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Let me know if if everything's you can hear okay? Dale, Brother,
why don't you take it away, start off the space
with your wonderful words of wisdom, as we always do
with our shows, and and then I'm gonna get to
(05:58):
some other stuff that we need to discuss tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I would love to Today's catchphrase is give more and
take less. I mean, think about it. It's the season
of giving. If you haven't already done it. I'm sure
you're in the process of buying Christmas presents for your
family members, your loved ones, and your friends. To think
about this. That's an act of giving. Now here's how
(06:26):
much people gave this time last year.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
In twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Three, nine hundred and sixty four point four billion dollars
was spent on Christmas presents. I mean, think about that.
That was like almost a trillion dollars. But it's worth it.
I said, it's worth it.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
How do I know it?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Just by watching the kids. I love seeing their little
eyes light up as they open their favorite toy on
Christmas warning. I mean that's priceless. If that doesn't get
to you, nothing will. It's just a reminder to give
more and take less. The cool thing about giving is
what you get back in return. I mean, it makes
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you feel so good on the inside. For example, years ago,
I was helping a church in Boise, Idaho, and one
of the things that we did is we'd take Christmas
presents to single parent homes And it was amazing when
we got there and we knocked on the door and
the mom would open the door in the second she
saw us, tears would just start running down her face
(07:31):
as she realized that there would be presents under the
Christmas tree, that the kids would be able to open
presents on Christmas morning. Let me tell you something, There's
no drug that can give you that feeling. I said,
there's no drug that can give you that feeling. Now
here's another reason why we need to give more and
take less. It helps us to not be selfish or
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self consumed. In other words, it's good for us. Now wondering, well,
how exactly does that apply to the UAP community. Well,
here's an idea. I think we should take a collection
for John Kirby, the White House Press Secretary.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I think we need to buying some hearing aids.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
For some reason, he's not able to hear what the
mayor and the state officials in New Jersey are telling
him about these drone incursions. You can't seem to hear.
So I think maybe we should take a collection and
get him some hearing aids. All kidding aside, how about this,
how about the next time you are in a conflict
with someone on X how about you take a pause.
(08:33):
How about you even do this? You offer to buy
a coffee from Dutch Brothers for them, and then you
watch what happens. Remember it's the season of giving, and
so give more and take less. Some of you are wondering,
how do we get to disclosure? Maybe the answer is
to give more and take less. Maybe just maybe those
(08:57):
who think we're not ready for disclosure, or those who
don't think that we can handle disclosure, maybe they'll see
that we can. Let's show them that we are ready
by giving more and taking less.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Give more and take less. I like that message. Look,
you can give somebody something and not expect anything back.
I think I've probably, just like many people around the world,
(09:34):
have given a lot, and I think deep down everybody
kind of expects something back. But to give something to
somebody is your the truest love language, right, It's it's
your way of saying I care. And I think everybody here,
(09:58):
I think a lot of people that I've surrounded my
my self with they do care. Not everybody cares, you know,
And some people take and they don't give back. That's fine, no,
no worries. Maybe down the road they'll they'll see your
value and see that you meant well, and they'll eventually
(10:22):
give back. But I think Twitter is totally screwed up.
I think a lot of people are having a hard
time connecting to the space tonight. Yeah, and I had
to go.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I had come in a couple of different times, and
then the last time it finally worked.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Yeah, it's uh yeah, it's cutting in and out for audio.
I had issues. I'm not sure if that was on
my end or if it was Twitter or what it was,
but I was unable to hear Dale at first, and
then I had to come back in.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Here we go. We got NYUAP discussion coming in here.
I'll invite him to co hosts or speak. I just
want to say, Hi, everybody, Hey, how's it going, Jason.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's coming pretty good, Tiresy.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I was gonna say, because we're in Canada, we don't
seem to be having this technical issues. Maybe the drones
are affecting everybody's you know, X spaces this evening.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You know, Nah, it's Twitter is a bag of nuts, man.
It just sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But people
are hearing us on Facebook right now. We got one
hundred and seventy five people tuned in from the interwebs
(11:54):
and different locations, like either it's people showing up on Twitter,
people showing up on Facebook, YouTube, there's a few people
piping through and yeah, like and then we got the
peeps here that are in Twitter on Twitter. Yeah, it's
(12:17):
really weird though, just like seeing all the issues Andy,
how you doing, man? What's up?
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I had to I had to literally start a new
account just to join his damn space because it wouldn't
let me in.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
That's insane. Well, we're glad you're here anyways. So ny
UAP discussion. Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
The first thing I wanted to kind of discuss is
an update I got from Dan Zetterstrom. So Dan, like myself,
likes his sleep. He's in the UK. It's probably like
two o'clock in the morning or something there right now.
So I got him to play. Yeah, I got him
(13:02):
to pre record a message, and this is about the
remember the ORB video that was recorded over Manchester International
Airport not too long ago. Yeah, so that that video
(13:24):
has been a point of contention in the UFO community
for a little while now, and it just so happens
that Dan got the inside scoop on that video. He
posted on Twitter not not too long ago and like
yesterday basically, and he actually spoke to the pilot that
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recorded that video from withinside of the cockpit. He also
had a chance to you know, look at the photo
and and all that stuff. He got the metadata. So
this is actually pretty important because whenever we see UFO footage,
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it's usually just like TikTok, Instagram, uh, YouTube, and we
don't know if that video has been tampered the the
source content. You know, we don't know where it's been.
There's no let's say, chain of custody for the history
of that video. When you have the metadata, you know
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the date, time, the location it was recorded, and on
what kind of device. So I see Carlos's hand there.
I'm just about to play the Dan Zetterstrom message. Is
there something Carlos you want to talk about real quick?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (14:50):
Hi, everyone, I just wanted to let you know that
there's a lot of people that the space has been
glitching and they've been they keep getting kicked out of
the room.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
So should I like stop the space and then jump
back in or what do I do in this case?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
That could be a.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
Solution, but I mean, I don't know, I don't know
what to do in this case.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
Mine, it was like the sound is just cutting off completely.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
It seems like they're like there was. It seems like
there's been a cyber attack over the weekend too, because
there was Instagram was down, Facebook was down, chut gpt
was down, a whole bunch of other sites were down
as well. So yeah, it seems like we're either under
a cyber attack or uh just getting over one.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, so that might be it. Well, all of this
stuff that's happening is very relevant, I think. I think
there's a lot of stuff going on. I feel like
I got to do this space for KGr anyways, and
we're going to discuss what we're going to discuss for
(15:57):
the next fifty minutes or so. I'd love to have
people jump in and be active, But if they can't
because things are getting really glitchy, maybe I'll just reap,
you know, for the last half of the space. I'll
relaunch it. I don't know. But here's the thing, Dan's
got a message for us. So I see people jumping in,
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getting booted out and all that stuff, but I can't
really do anything about it right now, just because it
would interrupt the flow with the show. Carlos, did you
want to tell me one thing there?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Brother?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Is that a glitchy hand?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:42):
It's probably a glitchy hand because I.
Speaker 9 (16:43):
Didn't have mine.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Not okay, frig man. Anyways, I'm gonna play this message
from Dan Zetterstrom, and this is regarding the drone over
Manchester International Airport. Okay.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
Not too long ago someone released some photos that a colleague,
a pilot, had given him whilst at Manchester Airport. The
photos showed a mysterious object on the ground and there
was also a video of the object in the air.
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The object on the ground was resting on the runway
and the photos were taken from a cockpit of an airplane.
It has been discussed whether this photo and video were hoaxed,
what they showed, and whether we could even prove if
they were real. Skeptics have put forward many, many different solutions,
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and Manchester Airport eventually issued a statement saying that the
photos were in fact hoaxed. Once the photos were out,
I reached out to the gentleman who posted them, who,
after posting them, deleted his account. He was able to
send me the original files with the metadata attached, and
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those files prove and equivocally that the photos are genuine.
I can't really speak to what the objects the object is,
but I can absolutely say that the photos and the
video are real. They are not hoxed in any way,
shape or form. Now, there's been a lot of discussion
(18:29):
around this case because the meta data wasn't provided, and
the meta data usually provides things like location and date
and time. This kind of clues us into you know
where and when it happened, and it can help with
analysis of the photos and videos. In most UFO cases,
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you want to see this kind of meta states provided
before you start diving in, because it's really hard to
prove the authenticity of something without it. When the person
uploaded these files to the Internet, he didn't include the
MATS data and that caused a whole bunch of well
arguing in the community between the usual figures, I just
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wanted to give this statement to say that they are real.
The fact that the person who posted them's account was
deleted after the fact doesn't mean they were hoaxed. It
simply reflects the fact that the gentleman was concerned for
his job. These images garnered a lot of attention. They
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kind of went into various places like the Daily Mail,
and if you can use the mat stats to trace
back to where when they were taking you can figure
out the plane and therefore who the pilot was, and
really narrow it down as to who took them. Now
I'm told that the pilot shouldn't be taking pictures from
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inside the carpit, and therefore the person's job was at risk.
So this person was kind of happy for the photos
to just go away. Really, something else that the person
who provided me the photos addressed was the fact that
sometimes in the UFO community we have a kind of
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a passion we'll say, for get into the bottom of something,
and so we want all the details and we dig
in on things really fast. I hadn't really considered it,
so I'll speaking to this gentleman. But that kind of
ravenous appetite which is, you know, caused by the lack
of information out there, which isn't the gentleman's fault. This
is because of the DoD not being transparent, as we're
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seeing with the kind of drone flaps in the UK
and Germany and America and so on and so forth
across the USA. Basis, the lack of information causes that
hunger for information to come across as kind of entitled.
And I think we should all be a little bit
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more sensitive towards these experiences and towards people providing media
evidence of these experiences. We should be a little more
gentle and consider the human on the other side, it's
not always about stigma. Sometimes people don't care if it
shows a real UFO or an alien or something like that.
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They just want to get to the bottom of it.
And that was the case in this in the Manchester
Airport objects. I know people say, oh, but I'll just
say object because I really don't know what it is photos,
But yes, I can absolutely say they are real photos
and videos. The person who took them their job would
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be at risk if it kind of, you know, came
out that they were taking pictures while in the cockpit
and the person who posted them kind of just wishes
for this to go away. Like I said, it's worth
remembering the human angle when we're ravenous for answers, and
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all the while bear in mind that though we may
have a hunger, it doesn't always entitle us to all
the information. For various reasons that have nothing to do
with hoaxes and stigma around the UFO issue, people just
want to get to the bottom of the mystery, and
that's understandable, but piling on and just immediately declaring it's
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UAP it's anomalous doesn't always help the issue anyway. That's
all the information I have on that citing and thank
you for having me for what it's worth. If you
know this set of context. The person speaking here, I
am Dan Zettas from you all know me from the
(22:47):
breakdown on that uile for podcast and the forthcoming show
what it Means to Be Human.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
There you have it, folks, So we do have Dan's
report on that UFO video once. I'm just gonna turned
down some of that source audio there. Uh, Jason, and
I guess Jason from UAP studies your co host and here, buddy,
(23:17):
do you got do you get the ability to see
who's asking to come up and stuff like that?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Well, right now I see what there's eight of us
that I could see on my screen. I don't see
anybody requesting the hands up, but again they might be.
We might just not be able to see it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, it's uh, it's kind of kind of messed up.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Bro tru.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, you just glitched out big time. I don't know
what you just said. Andy, are you like on the road. Yeah,
he's on the road.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
They got him.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
They got him. The m ib's all right, So who's
who wants to chat? I mean, Lama, Lama, jump up
whatever you want. Yeah, we can hear you. Does sound
like you're.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
In a talk.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Anyways, It's so weird because when I'm looking on Twitter,
I see the live on X feed on the right
and it says that two hundred and thirteen plus people
are in this space right now, and.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
Like, you know, I don't see I don't see anybody
who's not an I don't see anybody who's knows it's
gonna say the same thing.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I don't see somebody who's loves Just shows me five people.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
It's probably there's a probably people listening right now, but
you know, we're talking, so if they asked to be
a speaker, maybe that's when. I don't know. But anyways,
Dan had that update on that Manchester International Airport UFO.
What do you guys think of that? I think it's
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pretty interesting that this pilot actually took that, took that video,
took these pictures, but he's just frightened to lose his job.
They're not supposed to take that stuff when they're in
the cabin apparently, especially Yeah, especially when they're on the tarmac,
(25:33):
probably because they're you know, they got to be super
aware of other planes and so on, so forth. Dale,
I've got your hand up here. What do you think, Bud.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
One thing I didn't hear. Maybe I missed it, but
I wanted to add that there's some confusion and it
was brought up I heard him speaking yesterday, and that
was that this is that a spear that was seen
in Westminster or whatever the name of the place was,
that was a couple months ago, that wasn't at the
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same time as the drone sightings, and so that's one
of the misinformation that he wanted to make sure that
he clarified. I didn't hear it when he talked about
it this time, and so I wanted to make sure
I covered that that this is not related to the
drone incursions, right.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
So something I was on a space with jas earlier
today and Digby, who does the Man on the Run podcast,
quite eloquently stated that November twentieth to November twenty sixth
of this year is when this drone incursion activity really
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started to kick off in a big way, and that
was in the UK. That was over Royal Air Force
laken Heath, Royal Air Force Middle Hall, Mildenhall and the
Royal Air Force felt Well and Fairford UH air bases.
(27:10):
So if we look at what actually happened in chronology,
historically we launched like the US and the UK they
launched ballistic missiles into Russia just before that from Ukraine
and Russia said that they were going to retaliate. Today
(27:37):
we just killed the Russian like biologics and nuclear warfare. General,
there was an attack and they blew up a building
he was in. Ah so a scooter. Yeah, it was
a scooter or scooter scooter Yeah, yeah, it was a scooter.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
And the scooter was.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Was near.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
It was it was about a few blocks away from
the Presidential Palace. And it's absolutely crazy what they did.
I mean, that could have turned way worse than just
killing one general.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, but I think so. The point is, though, Aaron,
is that we are basically in the midst of what
seems like a war, okay, and everybody's everybody's quite aware
of the drone situation. We are getting drones. There are
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man made drones all over the United States being cited
right now. There have been announcements from officials. We have
heard an announcement from I think it was the CBP
and and that like an intelligence agency said yesterday that
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there are no weapons of mass destruction, destruction lost or loose,
that these drones are sniffing for right.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
They wouldn't disclose that either way, that that would be
information that's not.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I can't well Burchat said that it wasn't true.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
You know, yeah, I think we're getting a lot of
communication from people now that that is a rumor. And
straight up over the weekend, I was I was getting
information that it was possible, and I was sending it
to friends because I was scared, worried about where things
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could go. Andy could meet your mic brother.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
I was just gonna say, Kat, please raise your hand
before you speak.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
I have been raising my hand.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
It's not appearing.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
It's all good. It's all good. Don't worry about it.
So I'm just trying to discuss all these things. But
at the same time that we're seeing all these drones
over New Jersey, you know, Nevada, Arizona, now everywhere, it's
it's just happening like all across the United States. I'm
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getting friends sending me videos from like Australia on Instagram
and stuff like that. What is happening, in my opinion
is we are basically at war, and it seems that
there's the media trying to prevent like an outright panic
(30:51):
of this situation by getting out to the general public
and you know basically markets crashing, you know, business world
being worried. But at the same time that all this
stuff is happening, I think the drone activity would be Look,
(31:13):
here's the truth. These days, we have aircraft carriers, we
have you know, ballistic long range missiles and thermal nuclear
warheads that can be launched from submarines and all that stuff.
But the truth is the military is starting to literally
(31:36):
invest in less of that super dinosaur big budget military equipment,
and they're going after drone tech, satellite tech, lasers like
space based warfare stuff. This is the honest truth that
is that's I don't even know if plasma like so,
(32:02):
I'm I'm convinced. I'm sure. I'm sure that they're using
all kinds of different warfare means, but I'm just saying
they can put their money into drone warfare tech and
that goes so much further right now, because it's lower cost,
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it's unmanned, it can be flown autonomously and pre programmed
to carry out certain objectives from a computer terminal and
come right back to where it flew off from and
get recharged to do its next mission.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I don't even know if you need drone operators these days.
Probably for some models you do, so I'm just throwing
out my opinion of that situation. I also think it's
very possible that because people are looking at the sky
so much now, they're so focused on all this drone activity,
(33:08):
that they're seeing real UAPs, they're seeing UFOs. I mean,
if you're going to be turning your eyes to the
sky that much, you're going to notice more things, Right.
You're going to notice satellites, You're going to notice planes,
You're going to notice weird looking drones. So on top
(33:30):
of that, we also have a bit of hysteria where
people are literally seeing planes or seeing satellites or seeing
drones and they're calling it aliens or whatever. Right, I
(33:50):
believe there are extraterrestrials. I believe there is non human intelligence.
I'm fully with the community on that, right, But I
think that just like Dan was saying in his message,
Dan Zetterstrom, we're kind of becoming our own worst enemy
at ruling out certain things and going with the strongest evidence.
(34:16):
I mean, people have been saying that this is the
Project Bluebeam playbook. Right dude, we are like at war
with Russia right now the West. Okay, it has nothing
to do that. All that drone activity like this is
(34:38):
how wars are going to be fought in the future,
And this is how you're going to protect your country
and protect your land, your ground, your air, Like drones
are going to be thrown up in swarms all around
countries to protect May.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
I say something, Darcy, Yeah, well, you know, as a veteran,
I'm really stuff that none of our politicians have. I mean,
they're all saying different things, they're different narratives. And burt
Ched just recently, Yeah, I get it that we're probably
at war with Russia, dead on, But Burtched just said,
(35:18):
I think it was yesterday that the Chinese have brought
up a lot of land close to our basis here.
How the hell have we permitted that in the first place.
That is a major failure. And I fear that, you know,
a lot of this obfiscation and a lot of dishonesty
that's coming from the government is them trying to protect
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themselves from us finding out their failure and basically their
their very first task, which is our protection. How can
you let an enemy by land close to our defenses,
close to our basis. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
I'm glad you brought that up. I'm sorry, Darcy. I
just want to take something really quick. I'm glad you
brought that up, because I mean, I don't think a
lot of people are really paying attention to that, and
I don't want to sound like, you know, fear monger
or conspiracy theorists, you know. But what I'm about to say,
but I almost get the impression like someone is allowing
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it to happen. You understand, like I think they they
damn well know that Chinese are buying all this land
out and it's being allowed to happen because it's obvious
they're the enemy. It's obvious they're not our ally, so
why would you allow it? You understand the fact that
it has been happening to me smells like it's been
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it's been allowed to happen, and it's been allowed to
get to this point.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I would agree with you on that. I think why
it's been allowed to happen is purely for profit. It
like the greed economy. You know, we want to sell
as much as we can sell the shirt right off
your back if it's going to make you a good
amount of money. And so I think there's it's not
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just in the United States, like Jason probably even knows this.
In Canada, China got busted because they were buying like
all this these companies in Canada which owned large parts
of land and strategic resources. So for example Canada, we
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provide a ton of potash, which is, you know, an
integral ingredient to create really powerful fertilizer around the world.
And fertilizers make our crops and we grow our food,
and so it's part of that whole process to supply
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the world with potash. Well, in Saskatchewan, the province of Saskatchewan,
Chinese companies have been flooding in and buying all the
potash companies and kind of taking over the potash strategic
reserve of this part of the world. There's three other
(38:16):
places in the world that they produced potash in large amounts,
and you know, the Canadian government kind of said no,
and I think they even took the companies and took
the land back and said you can't do this. We
also had I don't know if people heard about this,
(38:37):
you can look this up. The Canadian government busted China
because at one point they were setting up their own
police stations within Canada secretly, and they were going after
wealthy people or people of influence or fuguretives of the
(39:01):
law from their own country that had fled to Canada.
And they were basically committing their own external arrests within
our country.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
And policing within within Canada. There was Chinese government policing
within our own country.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, so you know, you guys could say wherever you
want about Trudel, it's fine. You know, everybody loves to
hate him. But he exposed that, and you know, there's
a Canadian intelligence group that or service that's kind of
like our FBI ceases. They exposed that to the government
(39:41):
and then the government started like outlawing and kicking these
Chinese nationals out of our country that were setting up
police stations that were like basically Chinese national intelligence agents
operating and setting up like Syria intelligence business within Canada.
(40:05):
So look like we've talked about that, We've like the
drone issue to me is threefold. It is one partly
to do with something that's going on internationally in terms
of world power conflict. I'm I think it's true. I'm
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not saying that there is like a loose nuclear bomb
or something like that. I hope the hell there isn't
you know, because I did. You know, it's part of
the historical record that twenty nukes went missing in Ukraine
and intelligence agencies apparently still don't know where those are,
(40:52):
and that was back a couple months back now, so
you can look that up. But you know, you got
Ryan Grabs going on. Joe Rogan. He's saying he's talked
to all the who's who and intelligence and border security
and you know, weapons anti weapons of mass destruction, security
(41:18):
and stuff, and they're all telling him that's just a
bad rumor, it's not true. I hope he's right. I
hope they were telling him the truth. I hope they know.
But I think I still think the drone situation is
a symptom of something they don't want us to know.
(41:40):
Is it they're searching for UAPs in the sky that
have that we're having a UAP incursion. Are they ua
vs from another country? People have denied that, they've said
no to that, but we know they're up there and
everybody's taking this video footage of it, and it's becoming
(42:02):
a serious problem. So you know, let's just keep it
real and and be honest about the situation and not
like super delusional. I feel like that it goes there
sometimes can I say something, Yeah, somebody look at the
hands for me and let me know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
So if the US was to acknowledge that this was China,
we'd be at war with China. So they're playing this
this kind of game where it's a balancing act of
transparency and also watching these drones in the sky and
this this is my speculation that they're using word technology,
(42:50):
which is reverse engineer technology from from an any any
shy or plasma plasma balls to take out these drones
in the sky. We saw several videos, some out of
New Jersey, some out of I think it was Arizona
where there's these orbs shooting drones out of the sky.
And I think there was also a video that came
(43:11):
out in the UK as well. That was very similar.
So over the weekend a lot of people are unaware too,
we actually had a major cyber attack that took off Facebook, Instagram, Chat,
GBT and a number of other services. So that's following
(43:36):
the Chinese dragging a anchor for miles I think it
was like one hundred miles or something like that to
basically destroy a underwater cable Internet cable. And there's a
lot of other things that have been happening with the
Chinese and the US in the South China Sea. So
(44:00):
there's been a lot of incidents that have happened over
the period of the last couple of months that people
are unaware of. With the Philippines, and there was a
ramming of a ship of a few months ago. It
was a I think it was a cargo ship. There's
(44:21):
there's all these kind of escalations that are happening. And
a few months ago China and Russia do they join
fly by I guess of the above the US and Antarctica,
and they scrambled jets after that happened. So it's not
(44:45):
out of the rema possibility for these to be Chinese drones.
And I said this last week that I had talked
to a source who I used in my Promise series.
He's a former State Department guy, and he said China
as well, and that was about week ago. So I
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believe that these are China. But there is missing nuclear
material that is cited. That happened on December second here
in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Really yeah that but then you know everybody's saying that
that's not true. Well, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
What I heard was it was a medical device and
it does not have the potential. That's what Burchette and
that scientist said.
Speaker 7 (45:33):
So I don't know if that's the exact same thing,
but I know they said it really didn't have any
major threat at whatever that letter was that came out,
if you read it all the way through. If that's
the same thing, I think we need to make sure
that that's clear.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
Yeah, that's uh, that's probably the same thing. But I mean,
it's also possible that these drones have radiological material on them.
There was a spike in radiation and like there was
a you can view kind of the radiation and over
different states, and there was a spike in North Jersey
(46:09):
and New York. So something's going on there.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Okay, So Christian, I think your hands up there, Bud,
do you want to say something.
Speaker 10 (46:23):
Hey, Dorothy, sorry to kind of break the flow. I
just want to let you know that a lot of
people are trying to join to listen into the space
and they're getting kicked out as listeners. So the space
is a big glitch that I was having that trouble,
and people are messaging me asking me why they can't stay.
It keeps saying space closed out.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, yeah, I know that is feedback I've gotten. I've
got all these people messaging me about that. I honestly
have built nine minutes left on KGr, So I think
after the nine minutes, I'll try and like reboot the space.
What do you guys recommend? Do I just like close
(47:01):
the space and or close the Twitter and jump back
in and hit reconnect and reboot, yeah, or do I
end the actual space? I would just end it and
start another one. All right. So there's some other stuff
we could definitely talk about, and uh, I think it
(47:23):
is kind of important. Andy, did you want to kind
of bring up the next topic for discussion?
Speaker 6 (47:34):
I mean, now, just I'm not sure if you guys
heard what Ryan Graves is saying on rogan in regards
to the new thing. He also stated that he spoke
to some sources of his that you know, would have
would have been the ones investing time into researching and
investigating if this was true, and he stated that basically
(47:58):
they told him that that wasn't the case. So I
don't think this is a nuclear thing. I have heard
that the sniffers that are supposedly out in Jersey are
there because there was something legitimate seen in the skies.
And I mean this is from what I this is
(48:19):
what I was told from one of my sources, and
that that's why they were there. They were actually trying
to see where or how you know, what it was
that was up in the sky during that time. But
one thing I was telling Darcy earlier, I think it
was yesterday, was that, you know, the hysteria part of
(48:40):
this is I think important because it kind of gave
us a glimpse of exactly what would happen in the
event of an actual scenario where, let's just hypathetically speaking,
these things actually present themselves if you know, the public
reaction in this way with just this situation, I have
(49:04):
a really good feeling we're really not prepared for an
actual event when the time comes that these you know,
beings or whatever they are, decided they want to present themselves.
But I guess we could talk about that after the
this portion ends.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Actually, I was just going to chime in. The part
that scares me the most is, you know they have
a f what was it in f sixteen twenty two highest,
you know, the best of money can buy for a jet.
This guy gets surrounded by three orbs and they dictate
where he can and can I'll go. They controlled the
flight only three four feet away from his cockpit, and
(49:47):
whatever he did, they mirrored it instantly. Is if they're
locked into his mind again Michael Schoenberg or Schoenberger was
talking about an incident took place on Worship where everybody
on was mesmerized and could not move and just watch
this orb above this military ship. So really, the military
(50:09):
ship is completely useless if all of your people on
board are just in a trance. So it humbles us
to the point of saying that we could do anything
about it. The Hollywood films like Independence Day, that's a
load of crap and that is never going to happen.
We are at the bottom of the total pole here unfortunately.
(50:30):
But seeing the incompetence of the administration that's currently in power,
that's the part that to me is the biggest offense
is how in nept you know, are these people. They
can't even get anything done. One says one thing, one
says the other. They don't know whether they're coming or going.
And what's happening is going to cause that hysteria that
(50:55):
and he was talking about it is going to create
trust like or lack of confid and it's in our
governments because now we're not getting the answers we believe
they had this whole time, and they're playing stupid or
I know, I don't quite know what the plan here is.
But the states have never looked more bad than they
(51:15):
do right now.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Honestly, I think this is great. Yeah, I think this
is kind of like it's just control, you know, it's
like information management, social control. I think people should be
a little bit worried right now because if they're saying,
(51:39):
if everybody's seeing all this activity in the sky internationally
right now, and the powers that be are constantly saying
there's nothing to see here, nothing to worry about, that
seems like a cop out, and that seems like a
(52:00):
very dangerous thing to be doing, considering you have putin
vowing to strike back, you have China at his back,
you and they've surrounded Taiwan, you know, North Korean soldiers
(52:20):
sent to the to Ukraine, and like it's escalating. Everything
is escalating, and the escalation has gotten to a point
where we see things flying around our skies and they're
still saying, don't worry, there's nothing to worry about. I
would be worried.
Speaker 6 (52:45):
I think that's the worst part, is that it's gotten
to that point where we just don't trust a damn
thing that they say, because it's it's been this way
for so long and people are now, you know, people
finally woken up to it. And I think it's a large,
large in part due to the Internet. You know, it
allowed people to have access to, you know, a vast
(53:06):
array of information. So I don't I think it got
to the point where they're now understanding. They they they're
losing the control that they thought they had with with
the public, which is why we're at where we're at.
And basically nothing, I mean literally every time they speak,
all I hear is lies. You know, it's just you
(53:28):
can't trust them anymore, you know, and that's not a
good thing.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah. I agree. So guys, what do.
Speaker 8 (53:44):
You can has his hand up and then and then.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Myself, Yeah, yeah, I can go for it.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Cat.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
So there's also the fact that Russia walked back their
ambassadorship with the US and all their ambassadors left the
US and I think it was September or October of
this year, and then they did not replace their ambassador.
That's not normal activity, that's like wartime stuff. And that
(54:16):
was after the Biden administration authorized Ukraine the bomb inside
of Russia with long range missiles. So you're kind of
seeing like a crescendo effect of everything happening at once.
And it's not only Taiwan with China, it's also the
Philippines and the South China Sea and kind of that
(54:39):
whole entire situation that's been going back and forth since
the Obama administration, and it's escalated and I think we're
getting to a point. I think what's happening now is
a warning. I think it's a it's a warning to
the US that in the West that you know, we
(54:59):
have of in advanced drones, we have possibly NHI reverse
engineered tech that they're using that is being used to
send a warning message to the West.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Could be very true. I mean, it's one of these
situations where you don't know till Like I feel like
it's gonna be one of these situations where they're not
going to be announcing it on the news or from
the government until it's too late, like till there's actually
(55:39):
battles going on over your skies, you know what I mean.
That's what I'm worried about.
Speaker 6 (55:46):
I Mean, my question is, I won't you know, like
like what needs to happen before you know, like the
United States actually takes some kind of action, Like it
didn't make sense, like with the whole balloon situation, Like
I mean, what are they waiting for before something actually
gets done when things like this occur, you know what
(56:06):
I mean, It's just to me, I don't understand what
the fear of engagement is. Like just doesn't make any
sense to me. You know, it just makes us look
like a bunch of pussies, honestly.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
Fair enough, I mean I think that is a fair assessment.
I'm gonna go off KGr I'm playing my outro here,
so give me a sec here.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
Focus two hundred years ago, two thousand years ago. This
isn't going to work.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
She's picking up a massive object in this video.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Ships that might be closed.
Speaker 4 (56:46):
I can sense them in my vicinity, So I guess
I'm just very tuned in.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
Bulkan Head Honcho walks out ear reveal. Yeah, the crowd goes, oh,
my God. Was to protect the secrets from the Air
Force that were not out there in public, so
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