October 16, 2024 • 55 mins
Today we are discussing the myth, the legend of Bigfoot, also known as Sasquatch. There are many hoax videos that have been hitting the public as of late. Is this the greatest story ever hoaxed? Or is there some kind of non-human walking the great wilderness of our world? Do they hop in and out of portals or on spaceships?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This isn't going to work.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
She's picking up a massive object in this video. Ships
that might be closed. I can sense them in my vicinity,
So I guess I'm just very tuned in. Walkin head, Honcho,
walks out ear reveal. Yeah, the crowd goes, oh my God.
Was to protect the secrets from the Air Force that
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were not out there in public. So Hello, hello, everybody,
Welcome back to last night on UFO Twitter. This week,
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we are going to be discussing with our beautiful twits, twats,
Twitter people of the Twitter community, Bigfoot, othery're known as sasquatch,
scook them Yetti, wild Man, forrest people, you know, portal jumping.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I forget, don't forget skunk ape.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Don't forget skunk ape. Bringing in the Twitter people here.
That's Andy's voice you might hear, and Dale Pastor Dale
is going to be speaking right off the bat, but
without further ado. Hello, welcome everybody, and uh let's kick
it off with Dale Pastor Dale. Could you please tell
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us something that's somewhat positive for the week to kick
off the show.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Okay, well, I'm going to talk about positivity. I'm going
to talk about being optimistic and so I'm gonna begin
by saying, we are in it to win it. That's
why we're here on x That's why many of you
are listening to kg R a radio. We are in
it to win it. Of course, I'm talking about getting
to disclosure. I'm talking about the President of the United
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States or some other world leader coming out and saying
we are not alone. Those are the four words we
all want to hear.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
We are not alone.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
For those of us who take disclosure seriously, it can
feel like we're writing on an emotional roller coaster. It
reminds me of the original Star Wars trilogy. Episode four,
A New Hope, ended with Luke Skywalker blowing up the
Death Star and restoring the power of the Republic. The
message of episode four was we are winning. In episode five,
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the Empire strikes back. The Republic is under attack and
Luke Skywalker, Hans Solo, and the other rebels are on
the run. It ends with Han Solo being captured and
put in a cryal chamber where he is to be
sent to Jaba the Hut. The message of episode five
was we are losing. In episode six, Return of the Jedi,
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balance is once again restored. In the galaxy on Solo
is freed. Luke finally reaches his father, Darth Vader and
saves his soul. The new Death Star is destroyed and
the Emperor is killed or is he? The message of
episode six was we have one you know, that's exactly
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the roller coaster we have been on. We remember, but
always remember this. We are in it to win it.
To do this, we have to stay optimistic. We have
to have the right attitude. Talking about attitudes, there's a
story of two boys. One was an optimist and the
other a pessimist. The little boy, who was a pessimist,
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was taken to a room filled with brand new toys.
There's every kind of toy imaginable in that room, But
instead of being happy for all his brand new toys,
he immediately begins crying. The man who took him into
the room ask a little boy, don't you want to
play with any of the toys? Yes, the little boy cried,
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but if I do, I will only break them and
they won't be new anymore. The second boy, the optimist,
was taken into a similar room, but instead of being
filled with beautiful new toys, it was filled with horsemen.
There and a shovel. The boy grabs a shovel and
immediately starts digging, saying, there has to be a horse
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in here somewhere. Attitude is everything. I said, Attitude is everything.
If we are in it to win it, we have
to have the right attitude.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think that is so true. And you know, my
uncle told me a long time ago. Every day is
like taking a bite out of a huge shit sandwich.
Some days you have to take a big bite, some
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days you have to take a small bite. And either way,
you got to deal with some shit. And if that
little boy was looking for a horse at the bottom
of a pile of manure, good on him. But I
think we all have to shovel some shit in life.
It's just part of the struggle. It's part of our
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duty to put up with shit. And you know, every
week we're going to have to put up with it.
Every day we're going to have to put up with it.
Could be a small degree or a small amount day
to day, but it could be a large amount. I
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just got back from a short trip to hang out
with my family. My dad has suffered a brain bleed,
and for a little bit there.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
We didn't know.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
If you know, we're going to lose him, and we were.
You know, I live are for my parents. I had
to fly to see them, so I can't just walk
down the street. And it was good to know he's okay,
you know, spend some time with them, get a bit
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of a family recharge in a positive way. I'm not
gonna say my family is all positive. I don't think
any family is all positive. But we should love our
family members. We should try to love our mother, father,
brother or sister, whatever you got. And I guess why
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I'm bringing that up is because that was a bunch
of shit. You know, that was a negative thing that
I had to deal with, and my dad had to
deal with, my mom, my brother, And you just got
to shovel. You got to pick up the shovel and
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try and do your part. And thanks for the story.
Thanks for the encouraging words. Dale always appreciate it. We
have Bob up here pronounced Bob. How you doing, man?
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We can't hear you. Maybe drop down, jump back up? Yeah,
I can't hear you.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
He's on his laptop, so he might not have Mike.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Might not have his mic set up properly to ask
him if he wants to jump on his phone or
something like that. Some other people we got up here
read you're a good man. How you doing?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I'm doing good? What's up, Darcy? What's up everybody else?
Can you guys hear me?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Okay, yeah, you sound good? You sound good. Welcome to
kg R. A uh, the listeners are getting a little
red octopus right now. How you been what's been keeping
you busy man?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Not much a whole lot right now. Yeah, I saw
you posted this earlier, so I thought i'd joined in. Yeah,
not a whole lot going on right now. I do
have a little bit of overlap in my research and
stuff with Bigfoot and sasquatch or yety you know, whatever
you want to call it. I thought it was really cool.
I don't have any personal experiences with it, but very
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interested in it. And so it was my one of
my family friends, my wife's really good friend. So I
just thought i'd hop in here. I put up a
couple of posts up in the nests. So, but anyone
wants to take a look after the show, go ahead
and take a look.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I don't have a whole lot of info on it,
but Darcy, but more here just to listen. Yeah, thanks,
for having me man.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, anytime. My whole journey with big Bigfoot Sasquatch as
back in twenty fifteen, I was invited through an ex girlfriend,
to be honest, to go on a familiar we were
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both working in like this travel industry, and.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
She was she.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Got offered like a free trip to this area in
British Columbia called Harrison Hot Springs, and Harrison Hot Springs
is home to an indigenous tribe called the Stahalis, which
are you know, unseated Native Canadians basically, and in that
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area of British Columbia, which is actually only about a
two hour drive from Vancouver if people know where that is,
that area is home to the legend of Sasquatch. The
word Sasquatch actually originated from the state Haylei's tribe. And
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so the story with that this guy back in the
eighteen hundreds, I think it was like eighteen twenty something.
His name was J. W. Burns. He was a resident
school teacher, so he worked on the reserve. They were
kind of like bringing the indigenous peoples into the fold
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of the Western society as we were populating different parts
of Canada. And when he was trading information with them.
He learned about the fact that there was this tale
of a large, hairy ape like creature that lived in
the deep wilderness of British Columbia, and they actually pronounced
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the name sasquet. So if you go walk around Harrison
Hot Springs that area today, you'll actually like placards and
stuff and these like illustrations on pathways and stuff like
they've actually invested in educating the public there on the
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idea that the sasquatch is a real creature or at
least in the lore of these indigenous people. And JW.
Burns did not pronounce that properly. He called it a sasquatch,
and that's how we got the word sasquatch. So that's,
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you know, an interesting thing. And sasquatch has been seen
by many of the native peoples of British Columbia for hundreds,
if not thousands of years, because this is where they've lived,
right And you know, in certain tribes they call it skookum.
That's another name for this hairy ape like creature. And
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and you know there's other tribes call it all kinds
of There's one called Zunaquah. That's another indigenous name for it,
and the Zunaqua is etched into the totem pole of
that tribe that actually designs those large, you know, wooden
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totems with different faces and art into them. Now that
tribe is on Vancouver Island, I believe. I don't know
if that's I don't think it's the Stahalis, but it's
another tribe. So long story short. There you've got multiple
different indigenous people all reporting the same sort of mythical
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creature with their name, their own name for.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
It, and.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Bigfoot the name came from the United States. Now, this
happened in the Three Rivers area of North They're in California.
It was nineteen fifty two and they were building a
railroad through northern California. As we actually traveled across North
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America by the vast majority back in the fifties sixties,
that type of era over rail. You know, people were
not keen on flying back then, and we hadn't quite
figured it out in the fifties in a really big
commercial way. You know, the seventies was kind of like
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starting to really get popular air travel. And while these
crews were building this train way through northern California, which
is also you know, surrounded by indigenous tribes and stuff
in that area. They were coming to their equipment in
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the morning, coming to their gear, and things were moved around,
like you know, two ton devices and stuff for driving
these train tracks into the ground and flattening and clearing
out forest and all that type of stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Were they eating Were they eating they like, I don't understand.
Were they eating the equipment or.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
No, No, they were tossing it around. So there would
be like barrels full of metal train pins for like
putting down the road and at the rails and stuff,
and and all that stuff would be found like deep
in the forest, moved around, and so it was kind
of spooking the people that were working on this development,
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so to speak. And when the newspapers and the media
was catching wind of this because people were leaving the
job site, like workers were actually seeing these creatures. At
one point when that hit the news media, the first
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article that was published about what was going on up
there said something to the degree of big foot and
then in parentheses beside that feet because obviously there was
more than one foot found all around train site where
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building you know, has been happening in northern California. YadA, YadA, YadA,
people are seeing these large creatures like apes, and that's
how the tale of big Foot started. So that's why
it's a singular name. It's because of that first news
headline that came out in nineteen fifty two in Northern California.
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I actually did this kind of research. I actually like
looked into Bigfoot and Sasquatch because of my own own,
you know, education of it when I went to British
when I lived in British Columbia, and I was like
going to Harrison Hot Springs and meeting with people that
were experiencers of this creature or had been very well
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educated in the stories of them. So I made like
some documentaries about it. One of them, the first one,
came out in twenty sixteen. It was called The Unwonted Sasquatch.
It's I think it's free on Amazon Prime at this point.
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And the second one was just kind of a follow
up of that, and I talked about all of these
other cultures around the world that also reported seeing wild
men in other words, like relic palmonids, like these ape
like creatures in the deep wilderness of their parts of
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the world so here and I'm going to bring you
guys up to talk with me about it. But I mean, like,
for example, in China, in the Shenanjia National Rainforest there
they have monuments built for their wild man, which is
called the Yarin, and it has a very large footprint.
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It stands anywhere between eight to ten feet tall. You know,
it's covered head to toe in brown or dark thick fur,
and you know people have reported seeing these around their
national rainforest. In Russia, you have like a more stout
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version of this relic commonid, which they call the almost spouts.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Pardon, so there's a creature in the UK a stout?
Are you saying like it's a hybrid between a stout?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
And and also.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
No, So there are gentlemen out there that have hypothesized
that there's a relic hominid, like I guess, something that's
kind of like a human but more ape like. And
two of these relic commonids that we actually have plenty
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of fossil record for that we can prove walked on
our Earth at one time is the Australiapithecus, which would
have been a more slim I guess like closer to
the human form ape like man. And then there's another
one called Gigantipithecus, and that that one was called Gigantipithecus Blackie.
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It came from actually the Himalaya area, and you know
we have the tales of the YETI yeah, out of
the Himalayas. Yeah. The interesting thing about the Astralla Nottpithecus,
the gigantipithec is Blackie, is that it fits almost if
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you look it up online, it's description the illustrations of it,
the way that it had like this cone shaped head,
almost like a gorilla, and it stood ten feet tall
and you know, walked in a bipedal way, not like
on all fours like a gorilla. That creature. We have
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plenty of teeth and lower jaws and like upper cranial
structures and stuff we found all around, you know, the
forested areas of the Himalayas. And I guess the question
I have when I looked into this is at one
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time on our planet, we know for sure we existed,
right like we know that. We used to think that
we only existed maybe one hundred thousand years ago. Then
we changed that. We started finding more modern human bones
and stuff up to two hundred fifty thousand, three hundred
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thousand years ago. It just keeps getting longer ago, you know.
And the earliest gigant gigantipithecust Blackie fossil records that we
found have been around two hundred thousand, maybe even one
hundred and fifty thousand years ago, So that's like right
in the middle of when we know we were proliferating
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around the planet, and that means we would have come
upon them more often in the wilderness or where we
were living. They might have come upon us in like
small villages or communities that we were originally building. And
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when I look at the idea of Bigfoot or Sasquatch
being a real entity or real being, I kind of
allude it to being this creature that may not have
gone extinct, that still lives in deep wilderness. That's related
to all of these wild man sightings that we've seen
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throughout history that our cultures from around the world have named.
So jump up, anybody, yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, that was really good stuff, Darcy. Through
my research, I'll just talk about a couple of cases
that like are just really really good. The Sierra Sounds,
I believe it was in like the nineteen fifties or sixties.
Those are that's a really good case of the sounds
that were recorded the Gimblin film. I put that also
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up in the next two that's a really good case
as well. That's like, for sure there's something like an
almost really weird there where were like, okay, that's not
a person in a suit. That's definitely something. And another
one of the two cases that I thought was very
interesting was a port Lock, Alaska. The local additionous people
there up in Alasta College hairy man.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Sorry, can you just say what you mean by the
Gimlin case because I've seen plenty abo this the Gimling case.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
The Gimlin case is the one where I don't remember
how tall it was, but it's the female bigfoot that's
walking from like left to right, and I think it's
in northern California and it's walking, yeah, and it's uh
walking pretty fast, really big strides, and there's other kind
of almost things too of it. But I thook up
in the case when I take a look at it.
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But two other big ones that stood out nineteen forties
port Walk, Alaska. They called it nant Nec I believe,
which is like big hairy man also similar to what
you said Darcy the big Foot up in Canada. And
then one other one. I can't remember the name of it.
I think it's like Gari. You have to look it up,
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g R something like that.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
But Louisiana can do you mind not interrupting when people speak?
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Sorry, so it's coming through, do you know in the
volumes coming through at different times.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
It don't mean Ter'm.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Sorry, it's okay, raise your hand and elect of course.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Sorry.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
One last point in Vietnam, you know, the United States
was fighting over there a couple other countries as well.
In Vietnam. They there were encounters there and I'll have
to bring up the name, but uh they it was
called something else by locals. But it was a big
red hairy man and it was very very similar to
what we have here about bigbot. But yeah, I put
all that up in the nest. Almost take a look.
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But thanks for having me, and I'll drop down.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
A lot of people talk.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Thanks guys, stay around man, very cool. You don't have
to drop down. I will add quickly to you know what.
Louisiana Bourne was born and bred doesn't really sound like
he's from Louisiana. What he was saying earlier like, can
you elaborate on the Bob Gimlin film. So I can
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elaborate on that. I know quite a bit of the
history of that footage that was captured in nineteen sixty seven,
so this is a full ten years before Star Wars
Chewbacca debut in Hollywood. Many people have sort of made
an argument that it might have been a guy in
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a suit, But if you look at that footage, it's
been really well dissected, slowed down, presented, zoomed in and everything.
This creature looks incredibly real. Nineteen sixty seven being filmed
on a eight millimeter film camera. So Bob Gimlin and
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Roger Patterson had her for months about this creature or
creatures being seen in northern California, and they decided to
hop on horseback and camp out and go around the
Three Rivers area. There's a river bed there and that's
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why they call it the Three Rivers. And when they
were on I think their third day out, they finally
came across a bigfoot. They came across Paddy. She's nicknamed
Patty because if you look at the footage, she has
quite large breasts that kind of jostle with each stride
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she makes. She's got these you know, toes that furl
up when she's taking an extended foot print on the well.
She's actually drying. She's actually walking on the dry river bed.
But when they came upon her, she was crouched down
sipping water from the river and she froze. She actually
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stayed really still because they didn't see her at first,
but one of the horses started spazzing out because it
sensed Patty sitting there by the riverbed, and then they
finally noticed her, and that's when Roger Patterson jumped off
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his horse and he started recording with this old eight
millimeter camera and was literally running on the other side
of the river right chasing after and trying to get
as much footage of it as possible. And if you
watch the original footage with this is the Patterson Gimlin footage.
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I'm sure you could see it on YouTube. It's everywhere.
At this point, the full length of footage, there's actually
a lot of sort of jostling because he's moving to
try and keep up with this thing and get a
really good shot of it. And before you know it
it's kind of like walking in the distance, and its
back is to the camera completely and you see this
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like cone shaped head with like a peek at the top,
and you see these really really wide shoulders, and yeah,
just take a look at its legs, its breasts, like
there seems to be a lot of like working muscles
and real anatomy in that footage. So it's really old footage.
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It was really hard to fake something. And like gorilla suits,
you can slap that on and make a new sasquatch
video anytime of day these days, and we're seeing that
all the time. Andy co host Andy Marciel who's up here,
he knows it. Like there's so much hoaxing that goes
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on in this field of researching the cryptid Bigfoot or sasquatch,
and the reason videos are super bogus, like they could
have been a commercial for like a candy bar or something.
But some of the older stuff is really really good.
And yeah, thanks for bringing up the Patterson Gamelin footage.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Well that footage too.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
I mean, when you think about where they were when
this was spotted, do you know what I mean, what
it would take for them to pull off that kind
of a stunt with a suit that that was that
realistic looking too. At that time, they didn't have suits
that were that detailed, you know what I mean. It
was like pretty wonky looking, you know, costumes they.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Had back in the day.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
And they were in a very very remote area, so
to pull that off would have taken a hell of
a lot of skill. So I'm pretty convinced that that
whatever was captured was one hundred real like Russian blood
creature that they captured.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Louisiana. Did you want to say something.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Bud, Experience that is a hand up.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, experience, welcome buddy. Yeah, we can hear you, Bob, Bob, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
We can finally hear you.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
All right, man, I got enough.
Speaker 9 (29:26):
I wanted to I just wanted to say hi to
Darcy and let you know I'm a big fan of
your work and introduce myself. And he's been kind of
insuring me to get a hold of you and yeah
with you.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, I appreciate you coming. Man, It's good to hear
your voice. And uh, let's chat a little bit about
you in a little bit, but let's go back to
experience and welcome. Let's talk about Bigfoot.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
Yeah, I got you, guys, definitely got some Bigfoot information.
I'm not from you know, I live out in Carolina now,
but Arizona's got the muggy on Rim Monster. I don't
know if you guys have heard about that, but the
Apache Native Americans up.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
There in the White Mountain area have seen that thing
for hundreds of years.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
No, never heard of it.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
Yeah, there's you can go on YouTube. I'll have to
look at it. I got to figure out how all
this space stuff works. But there's there's YouTube videos of
old newscasts and stuff about people talking about the Apache
Monster up there and how often they see it and stuff.
I've never personally seen it up there, but obviously you
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know the lore behind Travis Walton and some of the
other sightings that they've had in the White Mountains areas.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
But just kind of bar for the course.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, absolutely, Moogion monster, right, the.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Muggy on Rim Monster.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, Beyon Rim. Oh yeah, because that's the Snowflake area, right,
the Moodyon Rim is where Travis Walton was abducted.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Absolutely, Okay, cool, interesting experience. Welcome then like that.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
No, y'are all good?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
What up?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Does he?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
So?
Speaker 10 (31:05):
Yeah? Back when clubhouse was the thing, that's matter of fact,
I think that's where I first came across you when
you had Phil Schneider.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Back then.
Speaker 10 (31:15):
So this is like pandemic times, right, Yeah. And I
had a pretty large club that I was running over there,
and I had a dude on named Lyle Blackburn, who's
like a real cryptid guy. He's super into the research
about Bigfoot and all the weird crypto cryptids. So that
was cool. But late nights in the space, there was
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a dude on the platform, this dude named I never
forget his name is Martin, right, and he was First
Nation Sue or no Cherokee, and we would just, you know,
be these late night rooms similar to spaces, and he
would just might just be talking about a bunch of shit,
and he was saying, you know, you don't he doesn't
really talk much or open up much about the stories
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that they had within his tribe, but he was going
to tell us one that related to Bigfoot. So we
were all like, yeah, please, because you know, First Nation
they have their own history and lore about you know
what and who book Bigfoot is. So this was kind
of a crazy story where I'm not sure if it
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was in the Dakota's or Wyoming somewhere very wooded. It
was late at night, he said, and there were him
and a couple of people were walking back to I
guess their base camp. I don't know if they had
to set up tents or whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
But they heard.
Speaker 10 (32:31):
This very loud roar, like curdling roar, which is attributed
to Bigfoot, and they heard a bunch of rumbling coming
from the woods, and he was like, I was like, okay,
this is going to be interesting. Then it turned to
take a turn for the left, which whereas he heard
these helicopters coming. And then helicopter pulled up right on
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him over the area where this curdling roar came from,
and a bunch of like Delta force guys jumped out
the hospitale of the helicopter and we're like pursuing this thing.
And then he said he there was like a flash
of light or something and the thing just like disappeared,
which was very weird. So I'm like, all right, So
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I kind of did some digging around and asking around
and to see what the legend of like Bigfoot was
and how it kind of tied into UFOs and shit.
So I'm like, what's the tie in here? So they
say that this is our speculation, right, this is not
what I believe. This is just what I heard, So
you know, take it for what you want. But you know,
the species of whatever Bigfoot was was the native creature
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on this planet that eventually had their DNA manipulated to
get to us to what we are now eventually. But
they were the first ones here. But they were very elusive,
apparently because they could just jump through portals or some
shit like that. So maybe they have some kind of
mastery of the energy on this planet to be able
to do shit like that. Obviously, there's no proof for
(33:58):
none of that, and they've been very loosive and up
to now. But I always thought that was like an
interesting story here because it was like a little different
take on what people here.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Usually it's just some.
Speaker 10 (34:07):
Rumbling yell, maybe some sighting of it, but not a
full on delta force chase in the woods and the
thing just disappears. That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, there's the whole bigfoot Sasquatch lore has so many
interesting theories that intersect with euphology and go into like
crazy paranormal dimensions and stuff like that. One of the
(34:39):
original guys that kind of talked about Bigfoot being able
to go in and out of dimensions was this wild
dude named Bill Merrill, and I featured some of his
testimony in my first doc. And I think it was
a little bit crazy, to be honest, but that's not
(35:00):
it's not crazy to think that maybe there's another entity
out there that could do some wild stuff. I mean,
a non human intelligence that could fly around in UFOs
is something people believe in, right, So who knows, Maybe
Bigfoot is one of these things that can do that.
(35:23):
I don't know. That's why the name of tonight's show
is Bigfoot or Bullshit. I mean, there's a lot of
bullshit out there there, totally is. I remember Carrie Cassidy,
she said she had like a remote viewing or like
a vivid dream that she had where she imagined like
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a primordial Earth and the Onnaki came to the planet
and when they came to the planet, they were greeted
by like these Bigfoot type creatures and that's who the
Onanaki worked with to create us. And then she also
said she saw like Bigfoot that were enhanced with technology
(36:07):
and carrying around laser guns and stuff. Right, but is
that real or is that just a grand delusion?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's kind of it's hard to prove, right, Yeah, it's
a cool story. It would make for amazing sci fi,
but how do we prove that? And you know, you
got the Onnaki man who's really just kind of taken
over on an Aki. He's like kind of pushed Zachariah
stitching right into a ditch and been like, it's my stage.
(36:40):
Is uh Billy Carson, Right, He's now like the king
of the on Anaki.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah, no, Billy for sure.
Speaker 10 (36:47):
Yeah, he's learning with that crazy I mean, look, man,
just since there's no definitive proof either way, right, could
just be stories. If it's bullshit, It's like, okay, it's bullshit,
But how do.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
We know it's bullshit?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
We don't really know it's bullshit.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Could be true.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
It could be not.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
I just put it on the table of it's possible,
you know what I mean, and just kind of leave it.
There's a lot of that table is full.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
By the way, it's the same with the it's the
same with the UFO topic. You know, it falls on
the exact same I guess you could say category because
you know, there's tons of fakes, but we know that
there's been sightings and balking, you know, talks about it,
and it's I mean, it's been throughout history. It's no
different with this, especially when it comes to the Native
(37:30):
American culture that talks about them, you know what I mean.
They had names for them, they respected them, They called
them the big that, the hairy men or something like that.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
So there's definitely some kind.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
Of truth to it, just like any myth or anything.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
It's always like, you know, it starts off as some
kind of truth, even though it turns into you know,
the things that we know about now. But it can't
be dismissed just like that because of new aged fakery.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
You know, it just makes it more.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
Difficult to study the topic or to study the subject
because of it. But when you go back in time
these things, for example, like the Patterson video, you can't
you can't dismiss that.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
You can't call it fat, you can't say it's cgi
because it didn't exist at the time, you know, And
you can't dismiss a lot of the tales that people
from you know, the old days have about the things
that they've seen and why they call them the hairy men.
You know why they call them the possibly dog men.
Maybe it's the exact same thing. Oh, there's kind of
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there's got to be some kind of truth.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
To it dog men.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
You know, there's there's some other cool stories out of
even Russia or even Canada both. I'm thinking of two
different cases. You can look them up. Just look up
like women kidnapped by yetti or bigfoot in Russia, and
(39:04):
then in Canada you can look up like or google
man says he was abducted by Bigfoot or sasquatch. And
in both the stories they were kids, they were little kids,
or I think in her case she was like a
tween ager and they were taken by these bipedal ape
(39:32):
like creatures into the forest. And with her story it
gets a little bit dark. She ends up like having
half human half bigfoot babies. Yeah, it's a little bit wild,
but you know, there's interviews with her and people in
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Eastern Europe. Or I think there was a famous bigfoot
researcher that was British. His name is Escaping Me. He
flew over he like went to the town where this
story came from, and allegedly like the genes of these
like half humans are still in that area. And then
(40:19):
with the Canadian case, this guy was missing for like
three days or something in the forest and eventually he
was kind of let go by these bigfoot and he
says in his story that they were just like kind
(40:39):
of like human, but more of like a wild man,
you know. So but he got back home and grew
up and you know, told this story to people that
would listen, and I want to say his names, like
Albert something I can't remember, but you know that's there.
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And then you've got like guys like David Palides, who
has written many books in the Missing four one one
uh saga, and David is quite convinced. He also did
the Hoopa project before he did the Missing one four
one one books, and the hoop of project was all
(41:20):
about bigfoot sightings and strange cases of these creatures in
the wilderness. So he took it very seriously. And his
Missing four one one series, which they didn't do, many
of that they didn't do when ten ninety one or
(41:41):
the Orchard did the Missing four one one The Hunted,
I think he wanted to include more sasquatch or bigfoot
stories that allude to hunters going missing or people going
missing in the forest. But I think one of the
executive producers on that real douchebag wanted it to be
(42:05):
all UFO related and didn't want to relate it to
like any bigfoot related stuff. And yeah, so I think
David Palid's has you know, he has a wealth of
knowledge on these creatures as well, and he's all about
national parks, national rainforests and people going missing.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
So yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 10 (42:29):
I mean, just to throw this out there, and I'm
gonna drop down and listen after this. And the idea
that if if these bigfoot, this big foot species was real, right,
and you tie this into the idea that Nhi is
real and has been observing us for a long time,
they would have crossed paths with whatever big floor is
at some point, right. So I always thought was kind
(42:50):
of interesting and I couldn't get my head around it.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Early on, I was like, why is this? Where's this connection?
Speaker 10 (42:55):
Is there a connection there at all?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Is it's just all bullshit? You know, I heard an
interesting theory.
Speaker 7 (43:02):
I don't mean to cut you off in regards to
that before I forget it. So the theory is that
if we have a species living underneath our feet, some
somewhere under the ground of you know, ancient humans that
now we consider what we what we see as aliens,
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pale skin, big eyes.
Speaker 8 (43:25):
That would technically be what what they would similarly look
like if they were to evolve underground with no light
to survive the you know, the ancient apocalypses that happened
with the asteroids and all that shit.
Speaker 7 (43:41):
What if Bigfoot and this is paraphrasing from what I
from what I heard, is a creation made by these
beings that have been down there for all these thousands
of years, genetic modif fed creations that are made to
basically guard.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
The interests to their domains. Interesting and I heard that one.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, that is yeah, I guess mountains could lead to
massive caverns and cave systems under the ground, right, But
it's just like, what kind of proof do we have?
Speaker 7 (44:22):
Right?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
I think one thing you could sort of point out to,
you know, before you get super carried away and believe
every story is a real bigfoot or cryptid ufo alien
sasquatch story. We tend to anthro promorphize things right as
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human beings. It's common for us to look at a
creature that exists on the planet and like throw our
own human image on it. And what if the Aboriginal
or indigenous people we're trying to say to their kids,
don't go into the forest alone or the sas get
(45:10):
will get you, because they're basically just creating a you know,
a horror story or a bedtime story to scare them
into some form of mental control, to make them aware
and keep them from actually going into the forest alone
and getting mulled by a bear, you know, because we
(45:33):
know bears are a very real creature that would take
you and eat you. So there is that there. There's
definitely some of that, and you know, and.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Can I speak up for a second, Yeah, that would
be that would be similar to the Little Red Riding Hood.
You know that that story was created, you know, so
the kids wouldn't go in the woods because there's wolves
and all kinds of things. The question I would have though,
is the fact that there are so many similar stories,
Like how did every one of these different indigenous cultures
(46:09):
come up with a similar story, Because you would think
if it was just purely a story, that the stories
the creatures would be different. And so that's just one
of the questions that I have.
Speaker 10 (46:23):
Yeah, it's that's kind of the thing that drew me
to it initially, because when I was young reading and
all this stuff, I just thought I was like, Okay,
some campers saw it in the United States in certain
wooded areas.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
Fine.
Speaker 10 (46:35):
But it wasn't until later when you start hearing it
and I start hearing it from First Nation people, where
there's like a whole more about it, and they don't
really open up a lot about specific tales, just generalities.
I think you have to be really in with the
native culture for them to open up to you fully.
And you know, I've heard some interesting stories when it
can relate it to just you know, Sasquatch or whatever,
(46:57):
where I kind of put more credence into it. Hopefully
leave all the way.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
I don't know either way.
Speaker 10 (47:01):
Like you said, Kinne, I'm kind of always been data
effectiven as well, but I always leave the possibility open.
So anyway, appreciate you, Darcy. I'm about to drop down
and I got to check out Puerto Rico. I've not
checked out Puerto Rico.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Yes, please do.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah, thanks for popping up, man, good to hear you
speak for sure. Take care brother. Yeah, funny thing about experience.
He mentioned that the first time we interacted was through
this clubhouse, and obviously clubhouse has like completely been dominated
by Twitter spaces. I thought it was pretty cool, hence
(47:40):
why I'm doing this stuff now. But back then I
was invited to speak on Phil Schneider on the Underground
Story by this guy who was like a music video
producer and he did stuff with Snow, who is like
a white wrapper from Toronto, and he was kind of
(48:02):
like asking me if I'd be interested in doing a
documentary about Snow because I'm Canadian. Snow's the guy that
became famous in the nineties for doing that song like
in FOM, I mean, are getting the fucking on aga?
I like to be moon down like and it was
(48:22):
a great song. It's super catchy. But yeah, just never
really pursued that I should. I think that would be cool,
just changing things up a bit instead of always doing
the spooky, weirdo docs that I do. But yeah, let's
talk to Bob and hey asap, Rocky, good to have you.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Up here, man, Yeah, man, I'm up again.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Okay, so Bob. People may not know who Bob is,
but I'm just gonna do a little intro before you speak.
So Bob is is a friend to the UFO community. Essentially,
back when Andy Andy Marcil goes by trans medium UFO
up here, follow him. He's a good dude. Andy has
(49:14):
a platform. His social media platform is on like Instagram
mostly it's called ny UAP discussion. I keep telling him,
set your thing back up on here and just do
it here. It'd be great. But yeah, just because there's
less governors and you control systems on Twitter, that also
(49:38):
leads to a bunch of like spam and trolls and
garbage and stuff. But it's a little bit more freedom
of speech leaning on this platform, which I like. So
back to Andy, he created nyuap discussion. He's building up
like a bit of a following and a lot of
(49:58):
people are checking out his UFO content there, and Bob,
who's up here, found him and thought Andy was doing
a really good job at you know, discussing certain UFO footage,
whether it was credible, whether it was fake cgi, YadA, YadA,
(50:19):
and they became friends. They started talking, and then Bob
eventually leaked to Andy the now famous DHS UAP footage,
So the Department of Homeland Security footage La brue Hob,
the atn Warhog and the Rubber Duck footage, which is
(50:42):
the most contested you know in the UFO community. Bob
was working at the time for Department of Homeland Security
and he took it upon himself to get this footage
out to the public, and he wanted Andy to help
do that. So, you know, in kind of an altruistic way,
(51:05):
and I keep telling people, you know, people pooh pooh
Jeremy Corbel or they talk smack about all these other
people that are bringing footage to the community. And you know,
the debunkers and skeptics go like, well, how did they
get that? How did how do they get their hands
(51:25):
on the mosel urb and stuff like that. And the
reason why is because of people like Bob who are
working in some form or fashion in the intelligence or
security profession within the United States or Canada or some
(51:47):
branch of the Five Eyes, and they want to make
a change. They want to get this footage out to
the public, so they work with people like Andy, like Jeremy,
like me. Because in my recent doc that I did
with Andy Marcil, we actually got to talk to the
leaker from Puerto Rico who released the twenty thirteen Agudilla footage,
(52:13):
and he worked for CBP, which just so happens to
feed into Department of Homeland Security, So there's a lot
of interesting synchronicities there with Bob. Bob, welcome, thanks for
coming up and speaking man. How are you doing.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
I'm doing good man. Thanks for having me on, Darcy. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (52:32):
Like I said, this has kind of been a long
time in the making.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
Andy's wanted me.
Speaker 9 (52:37):
To chat with you, so I'm happy to be here
to answer answer questions for you guys about any of it.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Very cool man. Yeah, I think there's a lot of
questions people may actually have. So if anybody wants to
ask a question, dale asapp.
Speaker 9 (52:53):
Rocky Ray, I'm sorry to cut you off. You want
me just to kind of explain my background stuff, Darcy,
just to get people understanding of where I'm coming from.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
So if you can keep it to two minutes, because
I have to switch off the KGRA radio stream.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I was.
Speaker 9 (53:12):
I started out in the Army in nineteen ninety as
a medic and then didn't stay in active duty, was
Army National Guard in reserve for about eleven years altogether,
and then I did a stint in the Fire Department
in Tucson and ultimately joined the Border Patrol after getting
another degree. So I've got a bachelor's in homeland security
(53:33):
with the minor and terrorism studies and philosophy and theory,
and my background is more counter counter terrorism and.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
My specialty is weapons of mass destruction.
Speaker 9 (53:43):
So I've gone to some pretty interesting schools over the years,
and you know, the Border Patrol recognized that, you know,
I was I was older when I went in and
had a lot of experience with the Fire Department and
working with homeland security, so they put me right to work.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
Doing you know, kind of specialty specialty things, and.
Speaker 9 (53:59):
Ultimately they landed on the to Sunsector Special Operations Mobile
Response Team.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
And that's say I end up finishing my career there.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Very cool.
Speaker 3 (54:09):
Man.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Well, we're coming down to the wire. I need to
sort of switch over and shut down the KGr segment
cart KGRA segment. Unfortunately, they don't give me like a
two hour segment. They give me like one hour. But
you know, maybe in a year from now, I'll be
bigger than George Nori. So with that, I'm just going
(54:32):
to cue the music and we're going to stay here.
We can keep talking with you. For people that are
listening on KGr, please head over to Twitter if you
want to join this space we keep it going a
little bit longer, or go to the extended content content
on the KGRA website. And with that, thank you for
(54:55):
tuning in to this week's show.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Two hundred years ago, two thousand years ago. This isn't
going to work.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
But she's picking up a massive object in this video.
Ships that might be cloaked. I can sense them in
my vicinity, so I guess I'm just very tuned in.
Walk in head, Honcho walks out ear reveal. Yeah, the
crowd goes, oh my God. Was to protect the secrets
from the Air Force that were not out there in public.
(55:32):
So
This isn't going to work.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
She's picking up a massive object in this video. Ships
that might be closed. I can sense them in my vicinity,
So I guess I'm just very tuned in. Walkin head, Honcho,
walks out ear reveal. Yeah, the crowd goes, oh my God.
Was to protect the secrets from the Air Force that
(00:21):
were not out there in public. So Hello, hello, everybody,
Welcome back to last night on UFO Twitter. This week,
(00:44):
we are going to be discussing with our beautiful twits, twats,
Twitter people of the Twitter community, Bigfoot, othery're known as sasquatch,
scook them Yetti, wild Man, forrest people, you know, portal jumping.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I forget, don't forget skunk ape.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Don't forget skunk ape. Bringing in the Twitter people here.
That's Andy's voice you might hear, and Dale Pastor Dale
is going to be speaking right off the bat, but
without further ado. Hello, welcome everybody, and uh let's kick
it off with Dale Pastor Dale. Could you please tell
(01:29):
us something that's somewhat positive for the week to kick
off the show.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Okay, well, I'm going to talk about positivity. I'm going
to talk about being optimistic and so I'm gonna begin
by saying, we are in it to win it. That's
why we're here on x That's why many of you
are listening to kg R a radio. We are in
it to win it. Of course, I'm talking about getting
to disclosure. I'm talking about the President of the United
(02:00):
States or some other world leader coming out and saying
we are not alone. Those are the four words we
all want to hear.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
We are not alone.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
For those of us who take disclosure seriously, it can
feel like we're writing on an emotional roller coaster. It
reminds me of the original Star Wars trilogy. Episode four,
A New Hope, ended with Luke Skywalker blowing up the
Death Star and restoring the power of the Republic. The
message of episode four was we are winning. In episode five,
(02:34):
the Empire strikes back. The Republic is under attack and
Luke Skywalker, Hans Solo, and the other rebels are on
the run. It ends with Han Solo being captured and
put in a cryal chamber where he is to be
sent to Jaba the Hut. The message of episode five
was we are losing. In episode six, Return of the Jedi,
(02:57):
balance is once again restored. In the galaxy on Solo
is freed. Luke finally reaches his father, Darth Vader and
saves his soul. The new Death Star is destroyed and
the Emperor is killed or is he? The message of
episode six was we have one you know, that's exactly
(03:18):
the roller coaster we have been on. We remember, but
always remember this. We are in it to win it.
To do this, we have to stay optimistic. We have
to have the right attitude. Talking about attitudes, there's a
story of two boys. One was an optimist and the
other a pessimist. The little boy, who was a pessimist,
(03:41):
was taken to a room filled with brand new toys.
There's every kind of toy imaginable in that room, But
instead of being happy for all his brand new toys,
he immediately begins crying. The man who took him into
the room ask a little boy, don't you want to
play with any of the toys? Yes, the little boy cried,
(04:01):
but if I do, I will only break them and
they won't be new anymore. The second boy, the optimist,
was taken into a similar room, but instead of being
filled with beautiful new toys, it was filled with horsemen.
There and a shovel. The boy grabs a shovel and
immediately starts digging, saying, there has to be a horse
(04:21):
in here somewhere. Attitude is everything. I said, Attitude is everything.
If we are in it to win it, we have
to have the right attitude.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think that is so true. And you know, my
uncle told me a long time ago. Every day is
like taking a bite out of a huge shit sandwich.
Some days you have to take a big bite, some
(04:56):
days you have to take a small bite. And either way,
you got to deal with some shit. And if that
little boy was looking for a horse at the bottom
of a pile of manure, good on him. But I
think we all have to shovel some shit in life.
It's just part of the struggle. It's part of our
(05:17):
duty to put up with shit. And you know, every
week we're going to have to put up with it.
Every day we're going to have to put up with it.
Could be a small degree or a small amount day
to day, but it could be a large amount. I
(05:39):
just got back from a short trip to hang out
with my family. My dad has suffered a brain bleed,
and for a little bit there.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
We didn't know.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
If you know, we're going to lose him, and we were.
You know, I live are for my parents. I had
to fly to see them, so I can't just walk
down the street. And it was good to know he's okay,
you know, spend some time with them, get a bit
(06:16):
of a family recharge in a positive way. I'm not
gonna say my family is all positive. I don't think
any family is all positive. But we should love our
family members. We should try to love our mother, father,
brother or sister, whatever you got. And I guess why
(06:39):
I'm bringing that up is because that was a bunch
of shit. You know, that was a negative thing that
I had to deal with, and my dad had to
deal with, my mom, my brother, And you just got
to shovel. You got to pick up the shovel and
(06:59):
try and do your part. And thanks for the story.
Thanks for the encouraging words. Dale always appreciate it. We
have Bob up here pronounced Bob. How you doing, man?
(07:21):
We can't hear you. Maybe drop down, jump back up? Yeah,
I can't hear you.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
He's on his laptop, so he might not have Mike.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Might not have his mic set up properly to ask
him if he wants to jump on his phone or
something like that. Some other people we got up here
read you're a good man. How you doing?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I'm doing good? What's up, Darcy? What's up everybody else?
Can you guys hear me?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Okay, yeah, you sound good? You sound good. Welcome to
kg R. A uh, the listeners are getting a little
red octopus right now. How you been what's been keeping
you busy man?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Not much a whole lot right now. Yeah, I saw
you posted this earlier, so I thought i'd joined in. Yeah,
not a whole lot going on right now. I do
have a little bit of overlap in my research and
stuff with Bigfoot and sasquatch or yety you know, whatever
you want to call it. I thought it was really cool.
I don't have any personal experiences with it, but very
(08:31):
interested in it. And so it was my one of
my family friends, my wife's really good friend. So I
just thought i'd hop in here. I put up a
couple of posts up in the nests. So, but anyone
wants to take a look after the show, go ahead
and take a look.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I don't have a whole lot of info on it,
but Darcy, but more here just to listen. Yeah, thanks,
for having me man.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, anytime. My whole journey with big Bigfoot Sasquatch as
back in twenty fifteen, I was invited through an ex girlfriend,
to be honest, to go on a familiar we were
(09:12):
both working in like this travel industry, and.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
She was she.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Got offered like a free trip to this area in
British Columbia called Harrison Hot Springs, and Harrison Hot Springs
is home to an indigenous tribe called the Stahalis, which
are you know, unseated Native Canadians basically, and in that
(09:42):
area of British Columbia, which is actually only about a
two hour drive from Vancouver if people know where that is,
that area is home to the legend of Sasquatch. The
word Sasquatch actually originated from the state Haylei's tribe. And
(10:02):
so the story with that this guy back in the
eighteen hundreds, I think it was like eighteen twenty something.
His name was J. W. Burns. He was a resident
school teacher, so he worked on the reserve. They were
kind of like bringing the indigenous peoples into the fold
(10:27):
of the Western society as we were populating different parts
of Canada. And when he was trading information with them.
He learned about the fact that there was this tale
of a large, hairy ape like creature that lived in
the deep wilderness of British Columbia, and they actually pronounced
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the name sasquet. So if you go walk around Harrison
Hot Springs that area today, you'll actually like placards and
stuff and these like illustrations on pathways and stuff like
they've actually invested in educating the public there on the
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idea that the sasquatch is a real creature or at
least in the lore of these indigenous people. And JW.
Burns did not pronounce that properly. He called it a sasquatch,
and that's how we got the word sasquatch. So that's,
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you know, an interesting thing. And sasquatch has been seen
by many of the native peoples of British Columbia for hundreds,
if not thousands of years, because this is where they've lived,
right And you know, in certain tribes they call it skookum.
That's another name for this hairy ape like creature. And
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and you know there's other tribes call it all kinds
of There's one called Zunaquah. That's another indigenous name for it,
and the Zunaqua is etched into the totem pole of
that tribe that actually designs those large, you know, wooden
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totems with different faces and art into them. Now that
tribe is on Vancouver Island, I believe. I don't know
if that's I don't think it's the Stahalis, but it's
another tribe. So long story short. There you've got multiple
different indigenous people all reporting the same sort of mythical
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creature with their name, their own name for.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
It, and.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Bigfoot the name came from the United States. Now, this
happened in the Three Rivers area of North They're in California.
It was nineteen fifty two and they were building a
railroad through northern California. As we actually traveled across North
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America by the vast majority back in the fifties sixties,
that type of era over rail. You know, people were
not keen on flying back then, and we hadn't quite
figured it out in the fifties in a really big
commercial way. You know, the seventies was kind of like
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starting to really get popular air travel. And while these
crews were building this train way through northern California, which
is also you know, surrounded by indigenous tribes and stuff
in that area. They were coming to their equipment in
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the morning, coming to their gear, and things were moved around,
like you know, two ton devices and stuff for driving
these train tracks into the ground and flattening and clearing
out forest and all that type of stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Were they eating Were they eating they like, I don't understand.
Were they eating the equipment or.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
No, No, they were tossing it around. So there would
be like barrels full of metal train pins for like
putting down the road and at the rails and stuff,
and and all that stuff would be found like deep
in the forest, moved around, and so it was kind
of spooking the people that were working on this development,
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so to speak. And when the newspapers and the media
was catching wind of this because people were leaving the
job site, like workers were actually seeing these creatures. At
one point when that hit the news media, the first
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article that was published about what was going on up
there said something to the degree of big foot and
then in parentheses beside that feet because obviously there was
more than one foot found all around train site where
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building you know, has been happening in northern California. YadA, YadA, YadA,
people are seeing these large creatures like apes, and that's
how the tale of big Foot started. So that's why
it's a singular name. It's because of that first news
headline that came out in nineteen fifty two in Northern California.
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I actually did this kind of research. I actually like
looked into Bigfoot and Sasquatch because of my own own,
you know, education of it when I went to British
when I lived in British Columbia, and I was like
going to Harrison Hot Springs and meeting with people that
were experiencers of this creature or had been very well
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educated in the stories of them. So I made like
some documentaries about it. One of them, the first one,
came out in twenty sixteen. It was called The Unwonted Sasquatch.
It's I think it's free on Amazon Prime at this point.
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And the second one was just kind of a follow
up of that, and I talked about all of these
other cultures around the world that also reported seeing wild
men in other words, like relic palmonids, like these ape
like creatures in the deep wilderness of their parts of
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the world so here and I'm going to bring you
guys up to talk with me about it. But I mean, like,
for example, in China, in the Shenanjia National Rainforest there
they have monuments built for their wild man, which is
called the Yarin, and it has a very large footprint.
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It stands anywhere between eight to ten feet tall. You know,
it's covered head to toe in brown or dark thick fur,
and you know people have reported seeing these around their
national rainforest. In Russia, you have like a more stout
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version of this relic commonid, which they call the almost spouts.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Pardon, so there's a creature in the UK a stout?
Are you saying like it's a hybrid between a stout?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
And and also.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
No, So there are gentlemen out there that have hypothesized
that there's a relic hominid, like I guess, something that's
kind of like a human but more ape like. And
two of these relic commonids that we actually have plenty
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of fossil record for that we can prove walked on
our Earth at one time is the Australiapithecus, which would
have been a more slim I guess like closer to
the human form ape like man. And then there's another
one called Gigantipithecus, and that that one was called Gigantipithecus Blackie.
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It came from actually the Himalaya area, and you know
we have the tales of the YETI yeah, out of
the Himalayas. Yeah. The interesting thing about the Astralla Nottpithecus,
the gigantipithec is Blackie, is that it fits almost if
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you look it up online, it's description the illustrations of it,
the way that it had like this cone shaped head,
almost like a gorilla, and it stood ten feet tall
and you know, walked in a bipedal way, not like
on all fours like a gorilla. That creature. We have
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plenty of teeth and lower jaws and like upper cranial
structures and stuff we found all around, you know, the
forested areas of the Himalayas. And I guess the question
I have when I looked into this is at one
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time on our planet, we know for sure we existed,
right like we know that. We used to think that
we only existed maybe one hundred thousand years ago. Then
we changed that. We started finding more modern human bones
and stuff up to two hundred fifty thousand, three hundred
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thousand years ago. It just keeps getting longer ago, you know.
And the earliest gigant gigantipithecust Blackie fossil records that we
found have been around two hundred thousand, maybe even one
hundred and fifty thousand years ago, So that's like right
in the middle of when we know we were proliferating
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around the planet, and that means we would have come
upon them more often in the wilderness or where we
were living. They might have come upon us in like
small villages or communities that we were originally building. And
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when I look at the idea of Bigfoot or Sasquatch
being a real entity or real being, I kind of
allude it to being this creature that may not have
gone extinct, that still lives in deep wilderness. That's related
to all of these wild man sightings that we've seen
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throughout history that our cultures from around the world have named.
So jump up, anybody, yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, that was really good stuff, Darcy. Through
my research, I'll just talk about a couple of cases
that like are just really really good. The Sierra Sounds,
I believe it was in like the nineteen fifties or sixties.
Those are that's a really good case of the sounds
that were recorded the Gimblin film. I put that also
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up in the next two that's a really good case
as well. That's like, for sure there's something like an
almost really weird there where were like, okay, that's not
a person in a suit. That's definitely something. And another
one of the two cases that I thought was very
interesting was a port Lock, Alaska. The local additionous people
there up in Alasta College hairy man.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Sorry, can you just say what you mean by the
Gimlin case because I've seen plenty abo this the Gimling case.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
The Gimlin case is the one where I don't remember
how tall it was, but it's the female bigfoot that's
walking from like left to right, and I think it's
in northern California and it's walking, yeah, and it's uh
walking pretty fast, really big strides, and there's other kind
of almost things too of it. But I thook up
in the case when I take a look at it.
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But two other big ones that stood out nineteen forties
port Walk, Alaska. They called it nant Nec I believe,
which is like big hairy man also similar to what
you said Darcy the big Foot up in Canada. And
then one other one. I can't remember the name of it.
I think it's like Gari. You have to look it up,
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g R something like that.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
But Louisiana can do you mind not interrupting when people speak?
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Sorry, so it's coming through, do you know in the
volumes coming through at different times.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
It don't mean Ter'm.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Sorry, it's okay, raise your hand and elect of course.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Sorry.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
One last point in Vietnam, you know, the United States
was fighting over there a couple other countries as well.
In Vietnam. They there were encounters there and I'll have
to bring up the name, but uh they it was
called something else by locals. But it was a big
red hairy man and it was very very similar to
what we have here about bigbot. But yeah, I put
all that up in the nest. Almost take a look.
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But thanks for having me, and I'll drop down.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
A lot of people talk.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Thanks guys, stay around man, very cool. You don't have
to drop down. I will add quickly to you know what.
Louisiana Bourne was born and bred doesn't really sound like
he's from Louisiana. What he was saying earlier like, can
you elaborate on the Bob Gimlin film. So I can
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elaborate on that. I know quite a bit of the
history of that footage that was captured in nineteen sixty seven,
so this is a full ten years before Star Wars
Chewbacca debut in Hollywood. Many people have sort of made
an argument that it might have been a guy in
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a suit, But if you look at that footage, it's
been really well dissected, slowed down, presented, zoomed in and everything.
This creature looks incredibly real. Nineteen sixty seven being filmed
on a eight millimeter film camera. So Bob Gimlin and
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Roger Patterson had her for months about this creature or
creatures being seen in northern California, and they decided to
hop on horseback and camp out and go around the
Three Rivers area. There's a river bed there and that's
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why they call it the Three Rivers. And when they
were on I think their third day out, they finally
came across a bigfoot. They came across Paddy. She's nicknamed
Patty because if you look at the footage, she has
quite large breasts that kind of jostle with each stride
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she makes. She's got these you know, toes that furl
up when she's taking an extended foot print on the well.
She's actually drying. She's actually walking on the dry river bed.
But when they came upon her, she was crouched down
sipping water from the river and she froze. She actually
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stayed really still because they didn't see her at first,
but one of the horses started spazzing out because it
sensed Patty sitting there by the riverbed, and then they
finally noticed her, and that's when Roger Patterson jumped off
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his horse and he started recording with this old eight
millimeter camera and was literally running on the other side
of the river right chasing after and trying to get
as much footage of it as possible. And if you
watch the original footage with this is the Patterson Gimlin footage.
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I'm sure you could see it on YouTube. It's everywhere.
At this point, the full length of footage, there's actually
a lot of sort of jostling because he's moving to
try and keep up with this thing and get a
really good shot of it. And before you know it
it's kind of like walking in the distance, and its
back is to the camera completely and you see this
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like cone shaped head with like a peek at the top,
and you see these really really wide shoulders, and yeah,
just take a look at its legs, its breasts, like
there seems to be a lot of like working muscles
and real anatomy in that footage. So it's really old footage.
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It was really hard to fake something. And like gorilla suits,
you can slap that on and make a new sasquatch
video anytime of day these days, and we're seeing that
all the time. Andy co host Andy Marciel who's up here,
he knows it. Like there's so much hoaxing that goes
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on in this field of researching the cryptid Bigfoot or sasquatch,
and the reason videos are super bogus, like they could
have been a commercial for like a candy bar or something.
But some of the older stuff is really really good.
And yeah, thanks for bringing up the Patterson Gamelin footage.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Well that footage too.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
I mean, when you think about where they were when
this was spotted, do you know what I mean, what
it would take for them to pull off that kind
of a stunt with a suit that that was that
realistic looking too. At that time, they didn't have suits
that were that detailed, you know what I mean. It
was like pretty wonky looking, you know, costumes they.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Had back in the day.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
And they were in a very very remote area, so
to pull that off would have taken a hell of
a lot of skill. So I'm pretty convinced that that
whatever was captured was one hundred real like Russian blood
creature that they captured.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Louisiana. Did you want to say something.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Bud, Experience that is a hand up.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, experience, welcome buddy. Yeah, we can hear you, Bob, Bob, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
We can finally hear you.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
All right, man, I got enough.
Speaker 9 (29:26):
I wanted to I just wanted to say hi to
Darcy and let you know I'm a big fan of
your work and introduce myself. And he's been kind of
insuring me to get a hold of you and yeah
with you.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, I appreciate you coming. Man, It's good to hear
your voice. And uh, let's chat a little bit about
you in a little bit, but let's go back to
experience and welcome. Let's talk about Bigfoot.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
Yeah, I got you, guys, definitely got some Bigfoot information.
I'm not from you know, I live out in Carolina now,
but Arizona's got the muggy on Rim Monster. I don't
know if you guys have heard about that, but the
Apache Native Americans up.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
There in the White Mountain area have seen that thing
for hundreds of years.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
No, never heard of it.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
Yeah, there's you can go on YouTube. I'll have to
look at it. I got to figure out how all
this space stuff works. But there's there's YouTube videos of
old newscasts and stuff about people talking about the Apache
Monster up there and how often they see it and stuff.
I've never personally seen it up there, but obviously you
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know the lore behind Travis Walton and some of the
other sightings that they've had in the White Mountains areas.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
But just kind of bar for the course.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, absolutely, Moogion monster, right, the.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Muggy on Rim Monster.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, Beyon Rim. Oh yeah, because that's the Snowflake area, right,
the Moodyon Rim is where Travis Walton was abducted.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Absolutely, Okay, cool, interesting experience. Welcome then like that.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
No, y'are all good?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
What up?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Does he?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
So?
Speaker 10 (31:05):
Yeah? Back when clubhouse was the thing, that's matter of fact,
I think that's where I first came across you when
you had Phil Schneider.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Back then.
Speaker 10 (31:15):
So this is like pandemic times, right, Yeah. And I
had a pretty large club that I was running over there,
and I had a dude on named Lyle Blackburn, who's
like a real cryptid guy. He's super into the research
about Bigfoot and all the weird crypto cryptids. So that
was cool. But late nights in the space, there was
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a dude on the platform, this dude named I never
forget his name is Martin, right, and he was First
Nation Sue or no Cherokee, and we would just, you know,
be these late night rooms similar to spaces, and he
would just might just be talking about a bunch of shit,
and he was saying, you know, you don't he doesn't
really talk much or open up much about the stories
(31:58):
that they had within his tribe, but he was going
to tell us one that related to Bigfoot. So we
were all like, yeah, please, because you know, First Nation
they have their own history and lore about you know
what and who book Bigfoot is. So this was kind
of a crazy story where I'm not sure if it
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was in the Dakota's or Wyoming somewhere very wooded. It
was late at night, he said, and there were him
and a couple of people were walking back to I
guess their base camp. I don't know if they had
to set up tents or whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
But they heard.
Speaker 10 (32:31):
This very loud roar, like curdling roar, which is attributed
to Bigfoot, and they heard a bunch of rumbling coming
from the woods, and he was like, I was like, okay,
this is going to be interesting. Then it turned to
take a turn for the left, which whereas he heard
these helicopters coming. And then helicopter pulled up right on
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him over the area where this curdling roar came from,
and a bunch of like Delta force guys jumped out
the hospitale of the helicopter and we're like pursuing this thing.
And then he said he there was like a flash
of light or something and the thing just like disappeared,
which was very weird. So I'm like, all right, So
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I kind of did some digging around and asking around
and to see what the legend of like Bigfoot was
and how it kind of tied into UFOs and shit.
So I'm like, what's the tie in here? So they
say that this is our speculation, right, this is not
what I believe. This is just what I heard, So
you know, take it for what you want. But you know,
the species of whatever Bigfoot was was the native creature
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on this planet that eventually had their DNA manipulated to
get to us to what we are now eventually. But
they were the first ones here. But they were very elusive,
apparently because they could just jump through portals or some
shit like that. So maybe they have some kind of
mastery of the energy on this planet to be able
to do shit like that. Obviously, there's no proof for
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none of that, and they've been very loosive and up
to now. But I always thought that was like an
interesting story here because it was like a little different
take on what people here.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Usually it's just some.
Speaker 10 (34:07):
Rumbling yell, maybe some sighting of it, but not a
full on delta force chase in the woods and the
thing just disappears. That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, there's the whole bigfoot Sasquatch lore has so many
interesting theories that intersect with euphology and go into like
crazy paranormal dimensions and stuff like that. One of the
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original guys that kind of talked about Bigfoot being able
to go in and out of dimensions was this wild
dude named Bill Merrill, and I featured some of his
testimony in my first doc. And I think it was
a little bit crazy, to be honest, but that's not
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it's not crazy to think that maybe there's another entity
out there that could do some wild stuff. I mean,
a non human intelligence that could fly around in UFOs
is something people believe in, right, So who knows, Maybe
Bigfoot is one of these things that can do that.
(35:23):
I don't know. That's why the name of tonight's show
is Bigfoot or Bullshit. I mean, there's a lot of
bullshit out there there, totally is. I remember Carrie Cassidy,
she said she had like a remote viewing or like
a vivid dream that she had where she imagined like
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a primordial Earth and the Onnaki came to the planet
and when they came to the planet, they were greeted
by like these Bigfoot type creatures and that's who the
Onanaki worked with to create us. And then she also
said she saw like Bigfoot that were enhanced with technology
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and carrying around laser guns and stuff. Right, but is
that real or is that just a grand delusion?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's kind of it's hard to prove, right, Yeah, it's
a cool story. It would make for amazing sci fi,
but how do we prove that? And you know, you
got the Onnaki man who's really just kind of taken
over on an Aki. He's like kind of pushed Zachariah
stitching right into a ditch and been like, it's my stage.
(36:40):
Is uh Billy Carson, Right, He's now like the king
of the on Anaki.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah, no, Billy for sure.
Speaker 10 (36:47):
Yeah, he's learning with that crazy I mean, look, man,
just since there's no definitive proof either way, right, could
just be stories. If it's bullshit, It's like, okay, it's bullshit,
But how do.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
We know it's bullshit?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
We don't really know it's bullshit.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Could be true.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
It could be not.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
I just put it on the table of it's possible,
you know what I mean, and just kind of leave it.
There's a lot of that table is full.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
By the way, it's the same with the it's the
same with the UFO topic. You know, it falls on
the exact same I guess you could say category because
you know, there's tons of fakes, but we know that
there's been sightings and balking, you know, talks about it,
and it's I mean, it's been throughout history. It's no
different with this, especially when it comes to the Native
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American culture that talks about them, you know what I mean.
They had names for them, they respected them, They called
them the big that, the hairy men or something like that.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
So there's definitely some kind.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
Of truth to it, just like any myth or anything.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
It's always like, you know, it starts off as some
kind of truth, even though it turns into you know,
the things that we know about now. But it can't
be dismissed just like that because of new aged fakery.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
You know, it just makes it more.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
Difficult to study the topic or to study the subject
because of it. But when you go back in time
these things, for example, like the Patterson video, you can't
you can't dismiss that.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
You can't call it fat, you can't say it's cgi
because it didn't exist at the time, you know, And
you can't dismiss a lot of the tales that people
from you know, the old days have about the things
that they've seen and why they call them the hairy men.
You know why they call them the possibly dog men.
Maybe it's the exact same thing. Oh, there's kind of
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there's got to be some kind of truth.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
To it dog men.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
You know, there's there's some other cool stories out of
even Russia or even Canada both. I'm thinking of two
different cases. You can look them up. Just look up
like women kidnapped by yetti or bigfoot in Russia, and
(39:04):
then in Canada you can look up like or google
man says he was abducted by Bigfoot or sasquatch. And
in both the stories they were kids, they were little kids,
or I think in her case she was like a
tween ager and they were taken by these bipedal ape
(39:32):
like creatures into the forest. And with her story it
gets a little bit dark. She ends up like having
half human half bigfoot babies. Yeah, it's a little bit wild,
but you know, there's interviews with her and people in
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Eastern Europe. Or I think there was a famous bigfoot
researcher that was British. His name is Escaping Me. He
flew over he like went to the town where this
story came from, and allegedly like the genes of these
like half humans are still in that area. And then
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with the Canadian case, this guy was missing for like
three days or something in the forest and eventually he
was kind of let go by these bigfoot and he
says in his story that they were just like kind
(40:39):
of like human, but more of like a wild man,
you know. So but he got back home and grew
up and you know, told this story to people that
would listen, and I want to say his names, like
Albert something I can't remember, but you know that's there.
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And then you've got like guys like David Palides, who
has written many books in the Missing four one one
uh saga, and David is quite convinced. He also did
the Hoopa project before he did the Missing one four
one one books, and the hoop of project was all
(41:20):
about bigfoot sightings and strange cases of these creatures in
the wilderness. So he took it very seriously. And his
Missing four one one series, which they didn't do, many
of that they didn't do when ten ninety one or
(41:41):
the Orchard did the Missing four one one The Hunted,
I think he wanted to include more sasquatch or bigfoot
stories that allude to hunters going missing or people going
missing in the forest. But I think one of the
executive producers on that real douchebag wanted it to be
(42:05):
all UFO related and didn't want to relate it to
like any bigfoot related stuff. And yeah, so I think
David Palid's has you know, he has a wealth of
knowledge on these creatures as well, and he's all about
national parks, national rainforests and people going missing.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
So yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 10 (42:29):
I mean, just to throw this out there, and I'm
gonna drop down and listen after this. And the idea
that if if these bigfoot, this big foot species was real, right,
and you tie this into the idea that Nhi is
real and has been observing us for a long time,
they would have crossed paths with whatever big floor is
at some point, right. So I always thought was kind
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of interesting and I couldn't get my head around it.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Early on, I was like, why is this? Where's this connection?
Speaker 10 (42:55):
Is there a connection there at all?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Is it's just all bullshit? You know, I heard an
interesting theory.
Speaker 7 (43:02):
I don't mean to cut you off in regards to
that before I forget it. So the theory is that
if we have a species living underneath our feet, some
somewhere under the ground of you know, ancient humans that
now we consider what we what we see as aliens,
(43:24):
pale skin, big eyes.
Speaker 8 (43:25):
That would technically be what what they would similarly look
like if they were to evolve underground with no light
to survive the you know, the ancient apocalypses that happened
with the asteroids and all that shit.
Speaker 7 (43:41):
What if Bigfoot and this is paraphrasing from what I
from what I heard, is a creation made by these
beings that have been down there for all these thousands
of years, genetic modif fed creations that are made to
basically guard.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
The interests to their domains. Interesting and I heard that one.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, that is yeah, I guess mountains could lead to
massive caverns and cave systems under the ground, right, But
it's just like, what kind of proof do we have?
Speaker 7 (44:22):
Right?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
I think one thing you could sort of point out to,
you know, before you get super carried away and believe
every story is a real bigfoot or cryptid ufo alien
sasquatch story. We tend to anthro promorphize things right as
(44:49):
human beings. It's common for us to look at a
creature that exists on the planet and like throw our
own human image on it. And what if the Aboriginal
or indigenous people we're trying to say to their kids,
don't go into the forest alone or the sas get
(45:10):
will get you, because they're basically just creating a you know,
a horror story or a bedtime story to scare them
into some form of mental control, to make them aware
and keep them from actually going into the forest alone
and getting mulled by a bear, you know, because we
(45:33):
know bears are a very real creature that would take
you and eat you. So there is that there. There's
definitely some of that, and you know, and.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Can I speak up for a second, Yeah, that would
be that would be similar to the Little Red Riding Hood.
You know that that story was created, you know, so
the kids wouldn't go in the woods because there's wolves
and all kinds of things. The question I would have though,
is the fact that there are so many similar stories,
Like how did every one of these different indigenous cultures
(46:09):
come up with a similar story, Because you would think
if it was just purely a story, that the stories
the creatures would be different. And so that's just one
of the questions that I have.
Speaker 10 (46:23):
Yeah, it's that's kind of the thing that drew me
to it initially, because when I was young reading and
all this stuff, I just thought I was like, Okay,
some campers saw it in the United States in certain
wooded areas.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
Fine.
Speaker 10 (46:35):
But it wasn't until later when you start hearing it
and I start hearing it from First Nation people, where
there's like a whole more about it, and they don't
really open up a lot about specific tales, just generalities.
I think you have to be really in with the
native culture for them to open up to you fully.
And you know, I've heard some interesting stories when it
can relate it to just you know, Sasquatch or whatever,
(46:57):
where I kind of put more credence into it. Hopefully
leave all the way.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
I don't know either way.
Speaker 10 (47:01):
Like you said, Kinne, I'm kind of always been data
effectiven as well, but I always leave the possibility open.
So anyway, appreciate you, Darcy. I'm about to drop down
and I got to check out Puerto Rico. I've not
checked out Puerto Rico.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Yes, please do.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah, thanks for popping up, man, good to hear you
speak for sure. Take care brother. Yeah, funny thing about experience.
He mentioned that the first time we interacted was through
this clubhouse, and obviously clubhouse has like completely been dominated
by Twitter spaces. I thought it was pretty cool, hence
(47:40):
why I'm doing this stuff now. But back then I
was invited to speak on Phil Schneider on the Underground
Story by this guy who was like a music video
producer and he did stuff with Snow, who is like
a white wrapper from Toronto, and he was kind of
(48:02):
like asking me if I'd be interested in doing a
documentary about Snow because I'm Canadian. Snow's the guy that
became famous in the nineties for doing that song like
in FOM, I mean, are getting the fucking on aga?
I like to be moon down like and it was
(48:22):
a great song. It's super catchy. But yeah, just never
really pursued that I should. I think that would be cool,
just changing things up a bit instead of always doing
the spooky, weirdo docs that I do. But yeah, let's
talk to Bob and hey asap, Rocky, good to have you.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Up here, man, Yeah, man, I'm up again.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Okay, so Bob. People may not know who Bob is,
but I'm just gonna do a little intro before you speak.
So Bob is is a friend to the UFO community. Essentially,
back when Andy Andy Marcil goes by trans medium UFO
up here, follow him. He's a good dude. Andy has
(49:14):
a platform. His social media platform is on like Instagram
mostly it's called ny UAP discussion. I keep telling him,
set your thing back up on here and just do
it here. It'd be great. But yeah, just because there's
less governors and you control systems on Twitter, that also
(49:38):
leads to a bunch of like spam and trolls and
garbage and stuff. But it's a little bit more freedom
of speech leaning on this platform, which I like. So
back to Andy, he created nyuap discussion. He's building up
like a bit of a following and a lot of
(49:58):
people are checking out his UFO content there, and Bob,
who's up here, found him and thought Andy was doing
a really good job at you know, discussing certain UFO footage,
whether it was credible, whether it was fake cgi, YadA, YadA,
(50:19):
and they became friends. They started talking, and then Bob
eventually leaked to Andy the now famous DHS UAP footage,
So the Department of Homeland Security footage La brue Hob,
the atn Warhog and the Rubber Duck footage, which is
(50:42):
the most contested you know in the UFO community. Bob
was working at the time for Department of Homeland Security
and he took it upon himself to get this footage
out to the public, and he wanted Andy to help
do that. So, you know, in kind of an altruistic way,
(51:05):
and I keep telling people, you know, people pooh pooh
Jeremy Corbel or they talk smack about all these other
people that are bringing footage to the community. And you know,
the debunkers and skeptics go like, well, how did they
get that? How did how do they get their hands
(51:25):
on the mosel urb and stuff like that. And the
reason why is because of people like Bob who are
working in some form or fashion in the intelligence or
security profession within the United States or Canada or some
(51:47):
branch of the Five Eyes, and they want to make
a change. They want to get this footage out to
the public, so they work with people like Andy, like Jeremy,
like me. Because in my recent doc that I did
with Andy Marcil, we actually got to talk to the
leaker from Puerto Rico who released the twenty thirteen Agudilla footage,
(52:13):
and he worked for CBP, which just so happens to
feed into Department of Homeland Security, So there's a lot
of interesting synchronicities there with Bob. Bob, welcome, thanks for
coming up and speaking man. How are you doing.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
I'm doing good man. Thanks for having me on, Darcy. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (52:32):
Like I said, this has kind of been a long
time in the making.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
Andy's wanted me.
Speaker 9 (52:37):
To chat with you, so I'm happy to be here
to answer answer questions for you guys about any of it.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Very cool man. Yeah, I think there's a lot of
questions people may actually have. So if anybody wants to
ask a question, dale asapp.
Speaker 9 (52:53):
Rocky Ray, I'm sorry to cut you off. You want
me just to kind of explain my background stuff, Darcy,
just to get people understanding of where I'm coming from.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
So if you can keep it to two minutes, because
I have to switch off the KGRA radio stream.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I was.
Speaker 9 (53:12):
I started out in the Army in nineteen ninety as
a medic and then didn't stay in active duty, was
Army National Guard in reserve for about eleven years altogether,
and then I did a stint in the Fire Department
in Tucson and ultimately joined the Border Patrol after getting
another degree. So I've got a bachelor's in homeland security
(53:33):
with the minor and terrorism studies and philosophy and theory,
and my background is more counter counter terrorism and.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
My specialty is weapons of mass destruction.
Speaker 9 (53:43):
So I've gone to some pretty interesting schools over the years,
and you know, the Border Patrol recognized that, you know,
I was I was older when I went in and
had a lot of experience with the Fire Department and
working with homeland security, so they put me right to work.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
Doing you know, kind of specialty specialty things, and.
Speaker 9 (53:59):
Ultimately they landed on the to Sunsector Special Operations Mobile
Response Team.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
And that's say I end up finishing my career there.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Very cool.
Speaker 3 (54:09):
Man.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Well, we're coming down to the wire. I need to
sort of switch over and shut down the KGr segment
cart KGRA segment. Unfortunately, they don't give me like a
two hour segment. They give me like one hour. But
you know, maybe in a year from now, I'll be
bigger than George Nori. So with that, I'm just going
(54:32):
to cue the music and we're going to stay here.
We can keep talking with you. For people that are
listening on KGr, please head over to Twitter if you
want to join this space we keep it going a
little bit longer, or go to the extended content content
on the KGRA website. And with that, thank you for
(54:55):
tuning in to this week's show.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Two hundred years ago, two thousand years ago. This isn't
going to work.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
But she's picking up a massive object in this video.
Ships that might be cloaked. I can sense them in
my vicinity, so I guess I'm just very tuned in.
Walk in head, Honcho walks out ear reveal. Yeah, the
crowd goes, oh my God. Was to protect the secrets
from the Air Force that were not out there in public.
(55:32):
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