The First UFO Day of 2025

Starting off 2025 with a Cybertruck BANG just outside of the Trump Hotel in Vegas. Is 2025 going to be the year of complete and total acknowledgement of the UFO presence?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Two hundred years ago, two thousand years ago. This isn't
going to work.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
She's picking up a massive object in this video. Ships
that might be closed.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I can sense them in my vicinity, so I guess
I'm just very tuned in.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Bulk in head, Honcho walks out ear reveal. Yeah, the
crowd goes, oh, my God. Was to protect the secrets
from the Air Force that were not out there in public.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
So hey, what's up everybody?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Welcome back to last night on UFO Twitter. It is
officially the year twenty twenty five. As we enter the future,
what will change in the UFO phenomena on what will
change in the reality of the world that we live
in in which UFOs exist. Are we going to have

(01:10):
a full on acknowledgment from the powers that be that yes,
we are not alone in the universe and there is
a non human intelligence interacting with mankind and they've been
covering it up for a long time. I mean, this
is what people are wondering, this is what we want.
Who knows, maybe that's what will happen. We're all pushing

(01:35):
for it right But tonight again we're going live with
UFO Twitter and speaking to the people there I'm live
on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, rumble, you know, so people might
have questions there, but if you feel like joining the conversation,

(01:58):
definitely head over to UFO, Twitter or Twitter rather or
x wherever we want to call it now and I'm
going to bring in the people, the beautiful people from
Twitter right now. Tonight we have Martin Willis as a wonderful,
you know, esteemed guest again, and we have Dale of

(02:23):
aoa observer of anomalists objects. Dale usually starts off the
show with a bit of a positive message, and you know,
he is a pastor. We really appreciate him. He's become
a good friend of mine. And last, but not least,
of course, we have Andy Marciel, my good friend from

(02:46):
the New York area. He is great, dude. There's some
really interesting stuff coming out about him and his work
in regards to UFOs UAP phenomenon on this month, so
be on the lookout for that. And d thanks for
joining us, Martin, thanks for joining us, and of course Dale, Dale,

(03:08):
would you take it away for us?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Absolutely, I'd love to. Well.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
I want to wish everyone a happy new year. Can
you believe it's like twenty twenty five?

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Already.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
I mean, that's the problem by getting older, as time
just seems to speed up.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Some of you know what.

Speaker 7 (03:23):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
Now, as we enter a new year, I want you
to think about the things that you want to change
in your life, the things that you don't like. For me,
it's losing weight. My goal is to lose thirty pounds.
The good news is I have a head start. I've
lost ten pounds already and I've only got about another
twenty to go. And so as you can see, excuse me,

(03:45):
I'm already turning the corner on my goal to lose weight.
Turning the corner, that's our catchphrase today. What I need
you to understand is that turning the corner is not
the same as making a New Year's resolution. Why not
because on average, New Year's resolutions only last about six weeks.

(04:06):
If you're going to turn the corner on your life problems,
it's going to take more than a resolution.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
It's going to take an act of the will. It's
going to take an act.

Speaker 7 (04:16):
Of your will.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
But what does it mean to turn the corner. It
means you're getting somewhere like me losing ten pounds. It
means making measurable progress. Talking about turning the corner. I
really believe that we are beginning to turn the corner
when it comes to disclosure. Now, let me make this clear.

(04:40):
I am not political. If this community becomes political, we
are done. And so please don't read into what I'm
about to say. I am not pro Trump or anti Trump.
I am pro disclosure. Let me say that again. I
am not pro Trump or anti Trump. I am pro

(05:01):
If everything I'm hearing is true, and that's a big if.
Things are about to change with the incoming administration. Several
pro disclosure politicians are about to be putting key positions
in the new administration. We really could be at a
turning point for disclosure to be absolutely transparent. I am

(05:22):
a supporter of luel Azondo, and I don't apologize for it.

Speaker 8 (05:25):
If you think.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Differently, that is you're right. Best men I've ever known.
I trust him. If you don't, that's your choice. But
here's why I bring Lou up. According to Representative Tim Burchett,
President Trump may appoint Lue Alesondo to an administrative UAP role.
In my opinion, that would be a good thing, a

(05:48):
very good thing. Yeah, if everything I'm hearing is true.
Remember I say, if then there is no doubt that
we are turning the corner when it comes to disclosure.
You know, that's what we should all want to turn
the corner, whether we're talking about our life problems or disclosure.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
We need to turn the corner.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Thank you, Dale, that's wonderfully said. And yes, we do
need to turn the corner. I think there's there's so
many things that are still on the back burner in
terms of the official disclosure of this phenomenon.

Speaker 8 (06:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
I hear some people say that disclosure has already happened,
like technically that's what twenty twenty seventeen or sorry, twenty
seventeen post twenty seventeen New York Times. We're living in
the disclosure era, right, but it's still not official. It
still hasn't really come from a president or you know,

(06:56):
I guess a official consensus, knowledgement from the government that
for sure we're not alone and this is all happening.
You know, this has been happening, and the world deserves
to know the truth. Martin, How are you, Martin?

Speaker 6 (07:17):
I'm doing great? Everyone, can you hear me?

Speaker 8 (07:20):
All right?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah? You sound good man? What are you in a
studio or something. You sound sexy.

Speaker 9 (07:24):
No, this is oh, thank you so much. Yeah, no,
I'm just right talking right at my phone. So anyway, Yes,
happy twenty twenty five and Dale, that was another really
nice message. I really like the way you opened this.
It's very nice.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
You know.

Speaker 9 (07:45):
I have to say, there's something kind of interesting and
I'm sure some of the you have let's see, sorry,
I just figured out how to do the co host
thing there.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
Some of them may have seen this image. But r
f RFK.

Speaker 9 (08:07):
You know, Robert Kenny, whatever you think of him, you know,
I mean, there's all types of opinions of him. But
at his Thanksgiving dinner family dinner, there was Danny Shehan
and so I try to get you know, I spoke
with Kevin Wright because he works with Danny, and he said,
you know, what's going on there?

Speaker 10 (08:27):
You know?

Speaker 9 (08:28):
And I could not. I couldn't get a clear answer.
But it made me wonder if there was some type
of situation where he was bending his ear about this topic.
And I wondered if anyone happens to know anything about that.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
That's a good question. I know that. Yeah, I saw
that photo as well. It was like a Christmas dinner thing.
I don't know if you have to pay to attend
these types of things, you know, Clinton and all these
presidents speak at certain engagements and sell tickets at dinners

(09:07):
and all. I don't know. I don't know if it's
one of those situations or if, like straight up, the
Kennedy family is tight with the she hands. I know
that Danny's two children work for him for what's the
new Paradigm Research Institute? Right, So it's in the family,

(09:32):
you know, like it's all in the family, like the
TV show back in the day. So is it in
the RFK family? That is a good question. I guess
we'd have to We just would have to understand for
sure how far that relationship goes. Does anybody else know

(09:54):
the information on that?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
You could always ask Tyler he might have some input
on that.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Oh yeah, Andy, how you doing, man? What's going on?
What's going through your mind these days?

Speaker 8 (10:06):
Well?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
What's keeping you busy?

Speaker 8 (10:07):
Brother?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Just nervous about the the thing coming out soon? Open
head goes out.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, I think you should be excited, not nervous, because
you're you're an intelligent guy. You represent this subject with integrity,
and you know you've been You've been through the slings
and arrows, so I think good things are on the
horizon for you. And uh, when this expose comes out

(10:40):
from a pretty popular publication, I'm sure you know it'll
be represented in the best light. So be confident.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Man, Yeah, I'm I'm I have confidence, just just you know,
unfortunately the past scars kind of they'll scam me a
little bit, but I still go through with it. You know, Hey, dude,
just taking it out.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Look like we've all got battle scars from interacting with
this community, especially on Twitter that seems to be where
the more nefarious folks seem to hang. Don't worry about it.
They're still going to be there. They're still going to
come at you and misrepresent things you've said or attack
your credibility. Don't worry about it. You know, it's not

(11:28):
even worth This is their mo o, you know, and
it's not worth losing sleep about. You know. It's just
what people do. They see somebody else stand up tall
and they want to knock them down.

Speaker 10 (11:42):
It is what it is.

Speaker 8 (11:43):
I know.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's more believe it or not. It's more the realization
that there's still a lot of work to be done
with people because when things like that happen, it shows
you the real problems. I think we've you know, gotten
a lot better, but there's still a hell of a
lot more work to do because you know, I mean

(12:06):
you see it all the time still when it comes
to this subject and people coming forward and you get
all these individuals coming out of the woodwork creating more
of a mess than what should be I guess you
could say.

Speaker 10 (12:22):
Needed.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
I guess like where we should already be past that.
So to me, it's like, I don't see a need
for the attacks anymore when we've already gotten to a
point where it's understood okay, you know, government and all
these high level officials are coming forward speaking about it.
So maybe it's time to put all that bullshit aside
and put this, you know a little more seriousness to

(12:46):
this because it's not where it was before. We're at
a completely different stage and that needs to just completely
you know, be eradicated with so that people are not
afraid to come forward. You know, people are not afraid
of that of what I'm afraid of, you know what
I was afraid of because it's not a pretty it's
not a pretty experience. You know, it's it's it's really

(13:08):
it's a it's disappointing. That's the biggest, the best word
I could use for it. But I'm trying to be
more positive that that is going to change and sooner
or later it's just going to be like a thing
of the past.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, yeah, don't worry, Just move on, keep your head high.
It's uh, it's not worth worrying about. I don't know
if any of you guys have noticed, you know, it's
been a bit of a quieter period. Ursula welcome, Fringe, Welcome,
Carlos welcome, Ardent, paranormal welcome, Holiday Jesus. I don't even

(13:46):
know who you are, but you're welcome. You're all welcome.
Anybody who wants to come up and speak, please do
join the conversation. Has anybody noticed that it seems like
we win through a bit of like a quieter period
over Christmas, holidays and so on and so forth. But

(14:07):
just today there's been some serious things happening. A cyber
truck parked outside of Trump International Hotel in Vegas exploded,
like right in front of the doors. I don't know
if that was I know that it's kind of strange

(14:29):
that it exploded because that you know, that's not a
known malfunction of these or defect of these cyber trucks
right now, And I've watched the video a couple of times.
It like looks like a car bomb explosion.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
No, it's definitely a car bomb.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, But but could you hack like if you're really
saw the international terrorists basically, and you wanted to hack
a tesla so that the batteries somehow overheated and exploded,
you know, is that at play here? There's that Sam

(15:14):
Smail science fiction thriller film that Barack Obama produced that
was released on Netflix just last year, you know, like
not not too long ago. And all of these tesla's
are like piling up on the highway. They're like driving

(15:37):
into each other as if they're pre programmed by a
you know, terrorist group or something to become a weapon
against Americans.

Speaker 8 (15:47):
Right.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
I can't remember the film the name of that film.
Somebody recognizes the film that I'm talking about, please jump in.
I can pull it up on my computer in a
second here. But that's the sort of thing that that
kind of comes to mind here when I think about
or see this, like car exploding in front of Trump,

(16:09):
I'm like that seems pretty deliberate, deliberate, and then you know,
today there's the New Orleans terror attack. The apparently the
Taliban or al Qaeda have claimed responsibility for a terror

(16:29):
attack in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Apparently the ices symbol.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Yeah, you're right, Andy, he had a flag, an ISIS
flag on the truck.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I guess, yeah, yeah, And I.

Speaker 11 (16:44):
Guess both vehicles were tied down to the same Winter
Lab company, the cyber truck in New York and then
the New Orleans one.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Really yeah, and the I guess.

Speaker 12 (16:54):
The cyber truck one they found like a detonation device,
So I find that really interesting.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, Like it just seems that things are heating up
pretty quick. You know, January first, twenty twenty five, let's go,
let's let's get the terror attacks going. It's insane. I'm
I'm worried that this is going to be like maybe
not the year of Disclosure, but the year of World

(17:21):
War you know, yeah, Mayhem, welcome Jesus. What's going on?

Speaker 10 (17:29):
Man?

Speaker 6 (17:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (17:30):
Thanks, Man.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
I just wanted to say, like, that's what my theory
about the drones is now, Like, you know, there's a
lot of activity in.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
New Jersey before, but now it's like.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
All this terrorist attack shit's coming out right now, but
like two.

Speaker 7 (17:44):
Weeks ago, we're wondering what the drones were and all.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
You know, this makes you wonder, well, let's put some
DEOD perspective, I guess, but.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
I agree with you, like you can listen to our
spaces we were doing during the whole drone thing, and
I was saying, look this, everything points towards this being
some kind of anti terror attack operation, you know, And

(18:14):
I'm not saying that there wasn't legit UFO sightings mixed
in with all this footage of drones flying over Jersey
and all over the country. Really, I mean, what better
time for you to capture UFOs when everybody is turning
their cameras and their eyes to the sky because of
all the activity up there, So you're going to notice

(18:36):
things more than ever. Right, we're always looking at our
phones or looking at the ground when we're walking around.
So for sure we got some legit uap UOFO videos
out of that, But I still think there was some
kind of like operation going on where you know, they
don't want to spook the public, but really they're trying

(19:00):
to find something or they're preparing for some kind of
attacks and stuff that are going to happen, and lo
and behold, first day of twenty twenty five, here we are.
We've got like attacks unfolding. So, I mean, what's your yall,
what's y'all's thoughts on that? Dave, Dave Folage, please join us.

(19:23):
Hope you're doing well. Ursula jump up here.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's kind of depressing that we already started off the
new year that way.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, certainly is. We got a comment from Chris Jordan
on Facebook. He says, hmm, seems like it's much much
more than just the Trump Tower situation. German car driver
kills numerous in Christmas market, has explosives in trunk. Card

(20:00):
driver in New Orleans had explosives in trunk. Car that
blows up in front of Trump Tower, has possible homemade
fireworks or explosives in trunk. Three dead in Hawaii from
cash of homemade fireworks the fire Marshall called small bombs.

(20:21):
FBI reports bust of largest cash of homemade explosives ever
at one hundred and fifty devices from home in Virginia.
Thanks Christopher Jordan for that. What do you think of that?
I mean, that's that's quite a bit more activity than

(20:41):
you you expect, and it's scary.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Scary to think that they've just been crossing right into
the US from the Mexico border.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, Dave, welcome, How you doing.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Hey doing?

Speaker 6 (21:00):
And it spent a long time doing all right.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, ma'am. Good to hear from you, everybody. Dave Fultch
he is the man behind the fleeer camera, usually repairing
the high end systems that are like anywhere between one
hundred thousand to a million dollars that are mounted to
DHS airplanes, Department of Homeland Security CBP vehicles on the

(21:26):
ground and in the sky. Great guy. He was featured
in a documentary that Andy and I worked on called
trans Medium Puerto Rico's UFOs. We covered the Aguadilla footage
from twenty thirteen. Heads up. That's actually going to be
hitting Amazon pretty soon, so I'll probably let everybody know

(21:48):
when that's live. That's only been live on Apple TV.
But yeah, welcome Dave. What's your assessment? What do you
think of all this drone stuff, you know in Jersey
and then now these attacks happening. It's pretty weird, man.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
I agree.

Speaker 13 (22:13):
A lot of people have asked me what I think
about these drones, And to be honest, I'm not sure
I've flown drones at night.

Speaker 14 (22:21):
It's much more difficult. You need more equipment, you need
a higher end caliber type of drone. What are they
looking for?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (22:31):
They might be just kind of practicing flying at night.
They being the government. So you know, I got my theories,
but I don't really have any conclusive thoughts on it.
But the little flight segue something Andy.

Speaker 13 (22:49):
I don't know if you've discussed this or not, but
that video that you shared recently was pretty interesting. Is
that something you're keeping to yourself for a minute or
are you going to disclose it?

Speaker 1 (23:01):
No, I posted it, but Darcy had something already put
to the plane, so I was gonna see if this
is a topic that he wanted to get into on
the next show. But you saw the video that I posted, right,
Darston one that I think I tagged you in it.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
By the Hunter on Instagram. Yeah, let me let me,
let me check. Got my head is like I mean,
I went drinking last night. My head's just spin in today.
But uh, I don't see anything.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
If I can add some Darcy real quick, We're talking
about drones. Supposedly, since the restrictions have gone in place,
the amount of drones or whatever they are in the
sky has gotten way down. And so to me, that's
an interesting question why if this this is government, you know,
or if it's.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
Something else, if it's just UAP so I don't know.
To me, it's just a big mystery.

Speaker 9 (24:00):
Well, you know, if I could chime in on that,
I've thought about this. You know, I think it sort
of could have there could have been like a snowball
effect where you know, everyone's looking for drones, so people
that are you know, private you know, drone owners thought
they'd get in the act. I think that could be
a little part of it. But I I, you know,
that's that's just just a guess. And Dave, I've actually

(24:23):
been wanting to talk to you, so I have to
Darcy hook us up hopefully, but also just you know,
going back to the very beginning of this conversation when
we were talking, well when Dale was talking about, you know, disclosure,
and he also mentioned Lou Alesandro and if I remember right,

(24:44):
I do believe that Lou's thoughts are that we are
in a disclosure. You know, it's kind of a slow,
gradual disclosure. And you know, I don't I really don't
know what I think about all that, because you know,
I haven't been at this forever, but you know, I've
been at it for a while, and it's.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
Just it seems like things are moving.

Speaker 9 (25:06):
But I've seen things move forward and then they they're
set back, move forward and then set back, and so
I try not to get my helpes up, but I do.
I am optimistic that it will move forward more than back.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
Anyway, That's all I have right now.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, I think it's a good point. I think we
are like amidst some kind of disclosure, right Like, we've
never been this It's never been this mainstream before. It
used to be relegated to UFO conferences, UFO book sales,

(25:45):
the occasional film. Now it's like we've got News Nation,
We've got NBC, CNN, like everybody's covering the UFO beats,
New York Times whatever. It seems like we are kind
of like a different era in terms of this subject,
and that's why everybody's talking about it. Like never before,

(26:09):
you've got so many more people that are considered influencers
in this space. It was just considered crackpot conspiracy stuff
when I first joined the community and did my own
research in two thousand and nine, and I'm pretty sure

(26:29):
everybody in my family thought I was nuts or retarded,
and many of them probably still think the same thing.
But I feel like I'm in good company now and
there's a lot of you know, well adjusted, level headed
people having intelligent conversations about this because it's real and

(26:51):
we're all trying to understand it. Like never before.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I sent you a link to videogociation, take some Insta Insta.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Why don't you post it on Twitter and I can
just like play it from your page or whatever.

Speaker 13 (27:12):
Going back to the drones real quick, I would like
to make it just kind of like a public information
that it's not like you can just go buy a drone.

Speaker 15 (27:22):
On Amazon and fly it at night and everything is cool,
especially in these airspaces that are restricted because I have
many drones and I can't fly the ones that are
linked up to the to the satellites because it will
keep your drone stable with the geosynchrocity, with the technology.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
You know, you got a barometer and it.

Speaker 14 (27:48):
Knows where the drone's at and it can keep the
stable but you're either going to be flying blind in
the air spaces, you know, not being detected, or you're
gonna have government authority to fly in those airspaces. So
to get around that, it's going to be pretty difficult.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
I was just thinking about that. It's not like you
can just.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Buy a drone flight wherever you want to.

Speaker 13 (28:15):
It's a lot of it's very regulated now through the FAA.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I've seen videos where these drones, like people are recording
hobbyist drones flying up to these objects that are over
Jersey and they're literally just like dropping out of the
sky to the ground. You can just like see the
light going like plummeting. So they seem to be like

(28:44):
messing with our consumer drone tech. I don't know if
that was a drone that it flew up to or
a legit UFO. It's so far away you can't really
tell in the video, but there is a lot of
that happening. But yeah, I mean, like the government's not
really going to tell you what's really happening until it's happening, right.

(29:10):
They want to control the subject, they want to control
the information. They're not going to divulge the information, especially
if it's some kind of strategic you know, advantage to them.
All right, So I got your video here. I'm going
to play that. Uh andy, there's.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
No there's no audio to it. It's the only video
that was posted by this hunter.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Hunter.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Uh he was hunting coyotes.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Okay, yopd is Okay, let me just double check. Can
you send it to my signal?

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Sorry, dude, I'll send it to you right now. Cool,
go ahead, I just sent it. Got it's got.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
It, okay, Madison Valley, Montana, the twenty fourth of December,
and so a hunter posted this. You're saying, that's just
like what night vision like just gen Gen three night

(30:23):
vision or something like.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
That's captured white hot modes. So those white objects you
see are actual, uh you know, animals out in the field.
But the interesting one is the is the black object.
It has a very striking resemblance to Labruja footage and

(30:49):
the object in Rubber Duck.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, okay, it's behaving similar to it. If people want
to see this footage, definitely, I'm going to post it
in the How do I get this to people out
there in the interwebs. So it's on his Instagram, it's
on his x page if you want to go click

(31:14):
and check that out. But also I'll put it on
the stream yards so that my producer there can post
it out to like you know, socials and stuff like that.
But yeah, so describe what's happening. I see the black object.
It does look like Lebrueh, which is one of the
videos that you leaked that the DHS agent Bob leaked

(31:38):
to you.

Speaker 10 (31:39):
And then.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, there looks like there's a white object maybe running
along the ground like trying to escape this thing above
it in the sky. Am I correct?

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
This is it like an attempted cattle mutilation or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
No, well, the hunters the description was that they were
just you know, out hunting coyotes at night and captured
this object that got their attention. But as soon as
I saw it, it was posted by one of my friends.
He sent me the Reddit link and then we were
able to track the page, and then I sent it
immediately to Dave and I was like, Dave, does this

(32:23):
remind you of anything? And the first thing out of
his mouth was La Bruja, which is pretty interesting because
it's almost identical. It's behaving almost identical to the object
that was captured in that footage.

Speaker 16 (32:37):
That's right, really, yeah, And I think I don't think
this is like a low light counter. It might be
some kind of thermal, like an uncool thermal.

Speaker 17 (32:47):
But through the black and a white differentiation, it looks
like it's.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
A true thermal image or it's not happening anything to
do with a low light or near infrared. I mean,
it looks like a pretty decent quality flair that he's using.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, it certainly does. So did you were you did
they send that to you? Or did you find that online? Andy?

Speaker 18 (33:15):
Now, a good buddy of mine had found it, and
then I saw that he posted and I inquired about it,
and he sent me the Reddit post and then we
were able to find the.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
The person who uploaded to YouTube. But it's the only literally,
it's the only video he's upload He hasn't uploaded anything else.
He only uploaded because the object just he didn't know
what it was. But like I said, it, I find
it very interesting because it looks exactly like huh.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, it's great, it's a great video. Maybe we should
get in touch with him.

Speaker 9 (33:52):
And sorry, may I asked if is this video going
to be available for you know, some of us here
to watch.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
And I also have a question for Dave as well.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Go for it, yeah ask yeah.

Speaker 9 (34:07):
Dave, if you are familiar with the Aguadia footage, is
that is that flur video?

Speaker 13 (34:18):
So yeah, that's actually from Emine excuse me, m X
fifteen west can system that was flown off of you know,
the DC tens or whatever they have over there in Agwadia.

Speaker 9 (34:32):
I see, Okay, well I'm going to spell something here
and I might get in trouble for it.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I don't get it, get in trouble, brother Bill.

Speaker 9 (34:40):
But I was privy to the screener for the Nova
special coming out this month and on UFOs, and so
Kirkpatrick and I can't remember the professor what college. I
think at Boston College. They both talk about the Iguidilla

(35:04):
film and they do this experiment with hot and cold
and all this, and they basically say, nothing to see here.
It didn't go in the water. This is just birds.
And it's the temperature, you know, in difference when it
gets when the birds get down near the water, it
makes them look like they're going in the water, and
blah blah blah. I quietly passed that along to Robert Powell,

(35:27):
and he was like thinking it was a joke, and
so I just I kind of wanted to hear your
feedback on that, Dave, what you thought about the experimenting
to just, you know, try to replicate something like that.

Speaker 6 (35:44):
I don't know how that'd be possible.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
But just before we go into that explanation there, Dave,
just for some further background, I actually alluded to this
Novas special last year and that they were going to
debunk every Fleer video that's ever been released. And the

(36:08):
two people that are heading up that Nova Special are
as you said, Sean Kirkpatrick, but also Joshua Senator, and
Joshua Senator was the NASA panel scientist that was debunking
the Go Fast UFO video in twenty twenty three when

(36:32):
NASA held their UAP panel and I saw what they're doing.
The interesting thing is that the arrow directors don't know
they're not coordinated enough to work lock steps. So you
have in the Nova Special them calling the Agwada twenty

(36:55):
thirteen footage a bird. And then you have the new
Aero director somebody tell me his name. It's kind of
escaping me right now. He was in the twenty twenty
four November nineteenth UAP Hearing Congressional Hearing, and he said

(37:17):
that the aguadilla footage from twenty thirteen was a balloon,
So what is it?

Speaker 12 (37:48):
Never come back with anything that resembles it, because I
go through the simple explanations by just taking video footage
from those simple explanations like simply staging balloons or recording
birds in flight, and doing those with the same type

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of equipment that they used to film that footage.

Speaker 17 (38:15):
So I haven't come up with anything. And I don't
believe that Kirkpatrick guy. I think he's just a figurehead
that was in there to spout out some disinformation in
my opinion.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
And let me add this to what Dave just said.
When he does his experiments, like when he did the
analysis for the rubber duck, like he actually went out
using the same equipment, filming different types of material, different
types of balloons, different types of objects to show exactly

(38:50):
what they look like. And I mean, it's it's very
obvious when you're looking through these systems what it is
you're looking at. So if it was a balloon, you
would know it was a balloon. You know, if it
was a bird, you would know it was a bird.
Like you would see all the detail to show that
it was a bird. It was no blurriness. It would

(39:11):
be very sharp, it.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Would be black. It would be like a black bird silhouette.
You would see a wingspan and all and like a
head and tail, feathers.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
And yeah, you would see you would see it all.
It would not be a blob like absolutely not, which
is why you know, I kind of like I get
mad when people just claim these things and say that,
because it's like, do you have you really looked to
see what flear is like when when you're looking at
these objects, like, I mean, it is crystal clear. There

(39:39):
is no uh uh, you know, mistaking a balloon and
a bird through that through that system, like it's just there.
There isn't any you know. So the fact that they
did this is one of the reasons why at least
this is what was spold to me by pure reality
that it was one of the main reasons why they
were able to come to the conclusion with Rubbert Duck

(40:01):
that it was anomalous because of his experiments to show that,
you know, what exactly these objects look like on the flea.
So I just wanted to mention that to add On,
Thank you Eddie.

Speaker 13 (40:13):
To add on to that, usually I'm looking from a
fleer from the ground up at objects, but there was
actually an instance where we were afforded the opportunity to
get into a fleer aircraft, you know, like FSI had
an aircraft over at Cecil Field and we flew and

(40:34):
I made a video and I actually put myler balloons
on my roof and I asked the pilot to fly
over my house so I could record this footage, so
I could get aircraft down approach in an angle at it.
So Mick Weston, you know whoever, didn't have that to say, well,

(40:54):
you're just looking at from the ground up.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
I've gone through a great lengths.

Speaker 17 (41:02):
Making videos to you know, prove otherwise their simple explanations.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, I think it's ridiculous. I think Aug twenty third,
Aged twenty thirteen is a legit EUAP video and they're
debunking it hard and can't even coordinate properly that it's
a burderer balloon because they're scrambling to cover it up. Carlos, welcome,
How you doing, man.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Doing okay?

Speaker 7 (41:33):
Did you figure out the name of the new director
from Arrow?

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I think it's Tim let me just look up Tim, Tim, Tim,
Tim Kazlovsky. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 8 (41:45):
John John John, Yeah, Kazlowski.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
There you go, all right, John Kozlovsky, Johnny.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Remember in this field.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, I don't know. I think somebody recently, James Fox
interviewed John Kazlowski Kozlovsky, and he posted recently on his
Twitter that when he asked him, you know, do you
need to get approval from the d D or whatever
in terms of speaking to the UAP issue, John replied

(42:20):
back to him that he like, can't even breathe without
the d D approving it. So I think there's a
bit of a conflict of interest there in terms of
portraying this subject properly when you got the d D
up your ass.

Speaker 9 (42:38):
Yeah, you know, I'm I don't have a lot of
confidence in that in general. You know, I think it's
window dressing. You know, you've seen these things happen before.
But I mean, a very clear thing about Kirk Patrick
on my observation was I watched a live stream that
he was part of, and there wasn't a lot of

(42:58):
people involved in this whole situation, but there was an
audience and there was a journalist and you.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
Know, he went through his.

Speaker 9 (43:10):
I don't know the truth, you know, he says that's
that's his claim, but I don't believe him anyway. But
one of the things he was asked by a journalists.
She raised her hand right in the front road and
she said, well, what about the two thousand and four
you know, off the coast of California, the Nimtz you
know incident.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
What about that?

Speaker 9 (43:30):
And he stopped and he said, well, folks, you all
out there have all.

Speaker 6 (43:36):
The information that we do.

Speaker 9 (43:37):
You see the videos that you know, you saw everything,
So that's it. There's nothing to even explore there. And
I got burning mad because you know, you think of
the data bricks were removed, that's that's pretty well, you know,
documented by you know, witnesses. So immediately when you know

(43:59):
they those standard bricks were stored that very same night
that they were taken off.

Speaker 6 (44:05):
The ship, so they went somewhere.

Speaker 9 (44:07):
And you can't tell me that that video that we
are all familiar with is all the information there is.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
There's no more video of it than just that.

Speaker 9 (44:17):
I mean, that's ridiculous, So that you know right there
that that's the case right there alone, for just saying
this is just window dressing and nothing to see here.

Speaker 10 (44:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (44:28):
Not not only that, but just to add on to
you know, why the whole Arrow thing is suspicious is
because every time either it was seank Er, Patrick or
Kazlaki they go before Congress to testify, there's always Susan
go in the background. She's the DELD, this information agent
with him.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah. Yeah, she looked extremely creepy in that November nineteenth
UEP congressional hearing where John was testifying. The only person testifying,
and I mean there was like maybe three congressmen congresswomen there.
It was pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, I get like this weird feeling because it's like,
why my thing is is that there's something bigger going
on behind the scenes, Like what what could that possibly
be that they're fighting so hard to keep this such
a big secret? You know, like, I mean, what what

(45:31):
could what could they be benefiting from besides technology wise?
Could there be something else going on that they're pushing
this hard to keep on claiming that this isn't real
or you know that these videos are bogus, Like I
just I don't know. I get a really bad feeling
when I when I think about that.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Uh, anybody know much about the terrorist attacks that are
happening today. Uh exploding Tesla's.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
No, Honestly, I don't really know that. I saw it
on Instagram.

Speaker 7 (46:10):
I guess one of the most disturbing information that I
read today was that the gentleman that allegedly committed the
crimes in New Orleans was actually an army a veteran,
you know, born here in the United States. So that's
pretty disturbing to me. And with the nicest flag.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Nonetheless, okay, great suspect identified as FBI investigates act of
terrorism after Bourbon Street attack. This is the New Orleans incident,
not Vegas. At least fifteen people were killed dozens injured
after a driver plowed a car into a large crowd

(46:52):
on Canal Street and Bourbon Street in New Orleans at
approximately three am Central time on New Year's Day. City
officials said thirty five injured people, including a police officer,
have been transported ported by gnums to five local hospitals.

(47:15):
The FBI is investigating the incident as an act of terror,
not just some drunken partygoer. Police said the suspect died
after he jumped out of his pickup truck and traded
gunfire with responding officers. Two police officers were injured and

(47:37):
are in stable condition. Let's see President o'biden. Sorry, Biden
is still awake. What does he have to say? He
revealed the suspect is Chem sud Din Jabbar and allegedly
posted violent social media videos hours before the Bourbon Street attack.

(48:06):
The FBI also reported to that this is a sleepy
Joe saying. The FBI also reported to me that mere
hours before the attack, he posted videos on social media
indicating they were inspired by ISIS, expressing a desire to kill.

(48:26):
The desire to kill, Biden said during the speech. The
ISIS flag was found on his vehicle, which he rented
to conduct this attack. As you said earlier, one of
you guys, I think it was Andy or Dale. Possible

(48:48):
explosives are found in the vehicle as well, and more
explosives were never found nearby. The situation is very fluid
and the investigation has a I'm a preliminary stage. New
Orleans is a place unlike any other place in the world. Okay,

(49:09):
he's leveling up a bit on New Orleans. Although New
Orleans is pretty strange. I mean, I've been there. I
think it's cool, but it's like party mecca of the South.
And they have drive through alcohol like they people can
go through drive through like they're at McDonald's to pick

(49:30):
up like, you know, three ounce cups of mixed drinks
and stuff. It's I've never It's got the weirdest, like
pro get fucked up debauchery laws. I think in the
United States. I don't know if they still have that.
But when I was visiting, I was showing an old

(49:54):
film at a film festival down there, and there was
like this huge what do you call it, like parcade
or like convoy of police cars going down the street
at one point and I was asking, like the uber driver,
like what's going on here, and he's like, oh, police

(50:15):
officer was run over by a drunk driver. And the
guy was explaining to me like it's horrible here, like
the laws allow you to drink and drive. So that's
just a little side note, tangent, I'm going off on.

(50:36):
Anybody been in New.

Speaker 9 (50:37):
Orleans, Yes, so debauchery is a good word for that. Yes,
it's craziness, absolutely craziness. So I wasn't even there during
Marti Gras, but I was there during Marti Gras and
once it's enough.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, I agree. I agree. It's an interesting place for sure.
So what's your predictions for twenty twenty five? We talked
a bit about New Year's resolutions? Do you guys have that?
Do you have like a resolution that you've set aside

(51:15):
for yourself for this year? I don't full disclosure. I mean,
I'm just going to try and get through another year
of life and.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
We'll get We'll get together and get you one, Okay, Darcy.

Speaker 6 (51:31):
Mess with perfection?

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Right, Oh dude? I mean I'm so scared of perfection.
That's why I don't mess with it. Yeah, I just know, Uh,
it's better just to be a mess. What's what's uh?
What do you guys think is going to happen this year?
More congressional hearings? Are you excited about any of these

(51:56):
documentaries coming out? Are you going to any conferences? Like Martin,
you and I are going to be going to Shag
Harbor again. I'm looking forward to that. We will have
a good time. Yeah, yeah, what else is going on?
I might go to one in San Francisco. So if
there's any Bay Area folks out there, let's let's hang out.

Speaker 8 (52:20):
What's going on? What's going on there.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Lorian Fenton is putting on the I think it's called
like UFO Con or something like that, and I might
go show Dark Alliance there, which is interesting because that
that docu series that I've I've released two episodes for.

(52:45):
I'm sure it's upset a lot of Willcock and Corey
Good followers. You know, a lot of people want to
believe everything and not go against the grain. But I
think that can do a lot of harm long term
and distract what's really going on. But yeah, I was

(53:06):
surprised that I got invited to that because I don't know,
I just thought there was so much, so many more
people on board with that bs.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
Hey Darcy, Yeah, can I give a plug for Osmosis?
I guess it's on Apple TV and also Amazon Prime.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
One of the people that one of the people.

Speaker 6 (53:27):
That's inded is Mario Woods.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
He's a good friend of mine and I plan on
watching it tonight. Supposedly it's a three episode series. Yeah, exactly, totally. Yeah,
I'm planning to watch that. I know, j Christopher King
and Kelly what the heck is Kelly's name again?

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Kelly? She does it into the rabbit hole. They're they're
great researchers. They're in there, and I'm part of like
some chat groups and stuff, and I said I'd definitely
support their work. Yeah, that looks like a good one.
I know that there's some legit executive producers entering the

(54:10):
uap UFO, you know, documentary space, So we're going to
be seeing a lot more really well produced and you know,
high budget and interesting, provocative stories coming out of this space.
And I'm going to watch that because I think it's

(54:31):
it's free on Apple TV, right if you have it, Yeah, yeah, if.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
You have Apple TV, but Amazon, if you have Amazon Prime.

Speaker 6 (54:41):
I just found out about that.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
Mario and I talked today and he mentioned that it
was also on Amazon Prime.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
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Speaker 6 (55:27):
Two hundred years ago, two thousand years ago.

Speaker 8 (55:30):
This isn't going to work.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
She's picking up a massive object in this video.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Ships that might be closed.

Speaker 10 (55:37):
I can sense them in my vicinity.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
So I guess I'm just very tuned.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
In bulk in head. Honchow walks out your reveal. Yeah,
the crowd goes, oh, my God. Was to protect the
secrets from the Air Force that were not out there
in the public. So and we're back with last Night

(56:06):
on UFO Twitter.

Speaker 8 (56:10):
All right, so.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
What's going on? Like, what's your what's your New Year's
resolution there?

Speaker 8 (56:17):
Dale?

Speaker 7 (56:20):
Well, mine was to lose weight, remember.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Yeah, I remember you mentioned something about that.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
Yeah, so my goal is just to get in shape
and get my blood pressure down, maybe get off some
blood pressure medicine, and just to look sexy again.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Okay, on a on a Harley, Right, I got some
bad news.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I'm selling my Harley.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Okay, that's another New Year's resolution.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Unfortunately, it's I need to get a roof put on
my house, so that's probably the best chance of doing it.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Fair enough. What about you, Andy? I saw you were
at a part of last night a little boozound. What's
your New Year's resolution?

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Also? Just trying to get to this view and it
seems like every year just things just keep getting worse
and worse.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Yeah, you're a bit black pilled.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
What was that?

Speaker 2 (57:18):
You're black pilled? Do you think I could say that?
Like red pill is where you've entered the world of
conspiracy and you think like there's something going on that's
greater than you know, what's being portrayed by mainstream media
and so on and so forth. Red black pill is
just like we live in a prison planet and everything's

(57:39):
going to help.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
I mean, what good has happened lately, you know, Like
I mean besides the subject and where we're at. But
other than that, everyday life is just getting harder every day.
It's not getting any easier. Things are just getting too expensive,
you know, things, It is hard, especially not with AI
and everything. Like a lot of people are gonna be

(58:03):
losing their jobs. Things are changing rapidly. It's not a
positive thing when you think about it, because it's going
to negatively affect a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Yeah, you've got to get out of the New York area, man.
I do notice that a lot of people are negative
there in general. No offense, love everybody from every walk
of life. They're all welcome. But uh yeah, it's like
there's a thing about New York attitude it's it's true,

(58:35):
it's real. I mean, uh, Canadian attitude is like, oh hello,
how are you nice to meet you? Sorry? And New
York attitude is like new York, am I right? What's
wrong with you? A I'm walking here? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
I mean we're exposed to We're exposed to more bullshit
than everybody else. I guess you could say, so when
if when you were exposed to that much, you see more.
You understand, when you're up on the mountains out in
fucking Canada, you're not experiencing the bullshit the way we do.
So we tend to see a lot of the negativity
that's out there because it's convergent, you know, here, in this,

(59:17):
in this, in this city, So you tend to see
more of what's really happening than locations that you know,
are out in the wilderness, as I guess you could say,
or in the boonies.

Speaker 10 (59:29):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Well, I mean, I'm just say I think that's what
I think. That's a big part of it, too, is
because of how busy and how you know, I mean,
like everything just runs through here, you know what I'm saying,
So we get to experience more of everything in the
sense of, like when it comes to a society, you
know that that than most.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
That's just my opinion, but I would I'm with Darcy
a little bit on this one, because you know, I
live in the Northwest, and you can say out in
Boonies or whatever, but we're still living life, We're still
looking at things. I think you're right Andy in the
sense that you see more where you're at. Maybe the
good thing for New Yorkers or anybody living in that
you know, still jungle, is to take a break, you know,

(01:00:16):
go out in the woods, go out there where it's
just absolutely quiet and peaceful, and you know, get a
different perspective because I can understand, you know, living in
New York with all of the pressures and all of
the stuff's going on, I can understand how that can
just absolutely wear it down. So maybe getting away would
help with that a little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:00:36):
Just don't go away back back home to the island, Andy,
stay in the in the continental United States.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Man broy that's sort of saying like you would you
would think going away to the island, back to nature
be better, but it's not, because it's horrible out there
right now. So it's like, oh, I I try to.
I try to find my peace and you know the
way I can. But it's just when you're surrounded by

(01:01:02):
it all, it's hard, man. I mean you see it
every single day. You see people struggles every single day.
The things that people are going through just is just
to just to pay rent. It's like, it's it's bad, man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
We got to go to Puerto Rico this year, man,
that's our that's our new year's resolution. We got to
continue the investigation right we started.

Speaker 10 (01:01:24):
I'm done for that, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
I'll try and find the time in the first five
months because that's probably going to be the only time
I'm going to be able to travel. As you may know. Yeah,
what's what's your new year's resolution? Carlos? Are you uh
you on PR right now?

Speaker 10 (01:01:47):
Puerto Rico?

Speaker 7 (01:01:49):
Yeah, But like Andy, I'm also black pilled right now.

Speaker 10 (01:01:52):
I got to say.

Speaker 7 (01:01:53):
But for right now, I guess since I'm taking life
one day at a time, right now, my new year's
resolution is to say down and actually write down a
Bingo card well to expect in this new year. And
I can tell you right now it's not going to
be great.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, And doctor Len, say hold on, let me just
say this real quick. It's not being negative. A lot
of people confuse this like what I say or do
way I express myself with negativity. It's not being negative.
I think we spoke about that the last time, and
actually Pastor Dale agreed with me a little bit. It's
the problem with me and maybe the same with Carlos,

(01:02:32):
is that, you know, I sometimes look at it as
a curse that I just see things for how they are,
for what they are. It's not me being negative. It's
just me being observant to things around me, and I
don't see joy around me A lot. I see superficial joy.
I see superficial happiness, but it's not real happiness. We're

(01:02:52):
being sold an illusion of happiness, but it's not happiness.
You understand, because at the end of the day, we
know that if you can't pay your right, you're out
on the road. Yeah, on the streets. You're not going
to be able to eat, You're not going to be
able to do any of these things. But then you know,
they make it so hard where you can't reach that,
Like I mean, for God's sakes, two bedroom apartments, So

(01:03:12):
we are going for four thousand dollars, you know, what
I mean, like, how can you find joy in that
when that is the reality you have to you are
faced with every single day, whether you like it or not.
So you can go to the woods for a couple
of hours, but guess what, you got to go back
to reality after them, you know what I mean. So
that's the tough part about it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:33):
Yeah, I was going to agree with you on.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
Now and that it really depends on where you live.
But for where I live, I'll be honest with you,
you know, Like I said, people are fairly optimistic out here,
you know, you know, I think when you live in
a certain environment, when you're having to, like you said,
four thousand dollars for a two bedroom apartment, I mean,
we're paying maybe fourteen hundred dollars, you know, out here,

(01:03:58):
but an economies off. I live in one of the
four forest towns in the state of Oregon. But I
don't I don't see the and I don't know if
it's pessimism. I don't think it's complaining. I don't think
it's negativism. But where you live and what takes place
around you is definitely going to influence your perspective. And

(01:04:21):
I'm just I'm saying that's your perspective where you're at.
But if you actually took yourself out of that, there's
a chance anyway, and you moved to say Oregon, and
you moved to a small town, and you lived a
more simple life and you didn't have because all this
technology has promised to make us happy and it really hasn't.
In fact, if you want to see some of the
happiest people in the world, you go to some of

(01:04:43):
the third world countries where they have almost nothing. And
so I don't know why we think having stuff is
going to make us happy, because it doesn't.

Speaker 7 (01:04:51):
That's a great point.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Yeah, I agree, it really is. I feel like human
beings are program by the media to have an insatiable
like insatiable desire and hunger for more, and you're never
happy with what you have. And I'm pretty happy with

(01:05:14):
what I have. I feel pretty what's up, Hey, Kent,
How you doing, buddy?

Speaker 10 (01:05:21):
Yeah? Not bad, not bad. Yeah, I've been when I
wanted to jump in. I've sort of taken the opposite
tech guys. I've I used to live in five star
hotels and big houses and work for big corporations, and
now I live pretty close to the jungle, and I've
never been happier in my life. I mean, I've got

(01:05:41):
all the I've got all the toys, I've got my
cars and my motorcycles and all that shit. But also,
if you don't mind me taking a couple of minutes
to I see that give an opinion. I'm sixteen year old.
I retired seven years ago when my wife got cancer.
She's fine, but I thought retiring was going to be

(01:06:03):
really difficult because I was one of these one hundred
hours a week guys there was. I was a director
of corporations and worked all over the place, and you know,
I was one of the yeah we've done sixteen hours today, boys, Yay,
you know. And then when my wife got sick and
I retired, I moved out here too, where we read

(01:06:25):
out here in Thailand, and I've been here for quite
a while now, and I realized that all this shit
that used to make me happy was just sitting around
the house collecting dust, and the thing that made me
happy was going out and working my shed and going
out on the farm and going out and collecting some
veggies and going for a ride on. I can doing

(01:06:47):
some of that stuff as well, but I believe that
Western society has been fooled into believing that you've all
got to live in cities and they've got to have
five phones and twenty seven TVs and four cars and
five bed dreams. And it's a joke. It really is
a joke, because I've been debt fraeing now for whow

(01:07:10):
have of I've been debt free for well, been debt
free for quite a while. And it is the greatest
thing that you can ever do in your life. You've
literally taken the slave band off your neck and released
yourself to be able to live your life. So, if
I could just offer a bit of advice to any
of yours, get out of debt. Debt is the best

(01:07:31):
control mechanism they ever came up with.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
I agree. Some of the richest people on the planet,
it's not even that they have money, it's that they
have massive amounts of debt.

Speaker 8 (01:07:44):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
It's like they own all these assets, but the assets
are really just backed by debt. The banker owns it.

Speaker 10 (01:07:53):
If you saw the bottom line of half of these guys, Nicole,
the billionaires, if you took all their debt for what
their actual wealth is worth, Yeah, there's not so many.
There ain't so many billionaires out there. I'm not I'm
not I'm not a I'm not a rich person. But
what I what I am is I'm someone who owns

(01:08:13):
everything they've gone and has a little bit put away
to you know, to pay the bills and stuff like.
You still go to pay electricity and water and all
that sort of stuff. But I'll just say this, guys,
I was. I was part of the system. You know.
I used to work hundreds of hours. I used I

(01:08:34):
was very highly paid. I had all my guys where
I can stick seven days a week. And when I
walked away from all that and started to live a
real life, the difference. You know, You all of a
sudden you realize, Shit, why the hell I never got
to see my kids grow up? I never not to
see my family. I never got to go and have

(01:08:56):
birthdays and parties. I missed both of my parents funerals
because of the situations that I was in at the time.
I couldn't leave the country I was in. And it's
worth shit. I've had more happiness and more value out
a life since I moved into the simple way than
I ever had when I had all that stuff guys.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Yeah, were you tight with your parents, like, other than
not being able to see them, you know, see them
off when they passed away. Were while you were alive?
Were you tight with your parents? Like, did you have
a good health?

Speaker 10 (01:09:33):
My father was an ex mercenary, so he was a
rather tough guy. But I was a mum's boy. My
mum was my my you know, she was my my queen.
She was. I was a mum's boy. But the point
I was making is this the value that I've got
at to be and paid all these highmans and money

(01:09:55):
wasn't worth the things that I lost, Like I lost
all my my I was. I've been twice Darcy. I
lost family back in two thousand and three, kids at
my wife and didn't lose them. I then separated and
never got to see them again. And that was because
of life I lived, working seventy eighty one hundred hours
a week every week. There was one year, no bullshit, mate,

(01:10:19):
there was one year where I had three days off
in a year, three days off in an entire year.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Yeah, did you pay for your kids university and stuff
like that? At least? Like was that worth it? Like accumulating.

Speaker 10 (01:10:35):
My daughter my oldest was fourteen and my youngest was ten.
Where we sweat up back in two thousand, so she
was already rich. She already had everything that I gave
it when you know we sweat. Oh so that's see.
But yeah, no, no, no, See in Australia back in
those days, if you were a well built, you know,

(01:10:58):
strong male, then you obviously we're a assaulting this nasty
basis ship father, and you never got to feed in court.
So yeah, I got that all that ship, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Damn well. I lived in Australia for two years and
uh I dated a Canadian the whole time I was there.
I love Aussies, like Ausy women are amazing, but you
guys are like a hard breed. You know, it's like impossible,
you know, five foot nothing like me. It's like nausey chick.

Speaker 10 (01:11:33):
I was an Aussie married to a pummy chick mate.
So you hate that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Oh you y had a prisoner of Mother England. Ah,
whoa yeah, and that's a that's a that's a huge
that's like a seems to be a really tight combination
that happens all the time. You always see like a
brit with an Aussie. Yeah, you guys love each other.

Speaker 10 (01:12:00):
I think want to say to Day, what are you
making of all these drawings made? I know some of
them seem to be monitoring, but what do you actually
I know you and I have had differences in the
past about some things, but what are you really making
of the drawings situation at the moment? Honost to God?
What do you think you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Naska mummies? No, it's okay, we'll forget. We'll forget about that.

Speaker 10 (01:12:25):
Let's let's get past the mummies. What do you think
of the drawings? Mate?

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Yeah, those pieces of garbage? Yeah, I think, Well, we
were talking about it at the starting of the show tonight.
I think that there's evidence that that might have been
in operation enacted, because you know, we're kind of in
a state of cold war that's slowly heating up around

(01:12:51):
the globe, and it might have been It might be
related to that sort of theme. You know, people were
talking about this lost Ukrainian nuclear warhead that was xnade.
People were talking about maybe a dirty bomb that was ixnade.
But you're going to xnay stuff that may spook the

(01:13:14):
economy and the general public. You're not going to make
disclosures like that when you're currently running some kind of operation, right,
especially if you don't want your adversaries to hear what's
happening because we're all so connected today, right, So I
still think there's something to that. Like I said, I
think if you're looking at the skies, like everybody's spooked

(01:13:37):
about this drone activity in Jersey and across the United States,
while people are so focused on the skies during that time,
they probably picked up legitimate UFO or UAP activity because
they were looking at this guy like never before. So
I think there's truth to some of the u AP

(01:14:00):
and UFO videos that came out of that time period
that might still be conjuring and visible, but I think
there is some kind of operation that's happening there, and
those are legitimate drones that are doing something. And today
we had the cyber truck explode in a bomb explode

(01:14:23):
in front of the Trump International Hotel in Vegas, and
then in New Orleans not really yeah yeah, and then
in New.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Orleans the kind of randing thing.

Speaker 10 (01:14:36):
But I didn't hear about a bone.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Oh yeah, just go look look at a search Trump
International Hotel, Las Vegas, cyber truck explosion and it's like
all over the internet right now. It seems to be coordinated.

Speaker 10 (01:14:51):
On the truck that they blew up, wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Yeah, they blew up a cyber truck. I didn't know
if it was like a battery thing at first, but
apparently UFO Jesus or Holiday Jesus was up here before
and he was saying that it was a legit bom
attached to the bottom of the cyber truck. So it
was like a coordinated attack in front of Trump Hotel.

Speaker 10 (01:15:18):
Oh yeah, that's right. That's two and two. Thanks mate.
Just you guys got to be here for it there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, two in one day. I mean
it's it's basically you can't. Can I read something? Yeah,
go for it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
You give some insight on it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
It's things getting me down. It says.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
Authorities believe fireworks, gas tanks, and camping fuel were connected
to the detonation system controlled by the driver and the
Tesla cyber truck that exploded outside of Trump Hotel in
Las Vegas Wednesday morning. According to law enforcement officials, the
FBI is working to determine whether the incident was a
terrorist act. Jeremy Schwartz, acting Special Agent in charge of

(01:15:58):
the FBI for Las Vegas said Wednesday, the agency believes
it was an isolated incident and there is no further
danger to the public.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Well, I mean, what does that even mean. They're admitting
that there was some kind of like shoddy bomb rigged
up to the bottom of this truck, this cyber truck
like with.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
That.

Speaker 10 (01:16:23):
That statement for reinforcement's really dangerous because you can't say
when when you're saying something's an isolated incident and there's
no need to be concerned. Yeah, what you're saying is
it was a one off. There's not going to be
any copy cats. There's not going to be any other
It's not a good thing to say people should be
on a heightened state of alert because unfortunately, in the

(01:16:48):
world that we live in nowadays, when this news gets out,
not everybody reacts the same way. And I'm just I'm
not trying to be a fearmonger. On the opposite, being
prepared means you're not afraid. So people should just be conserned,
keep an eye front usual activity in the public, and
report it to the police if you see stuff that
you think is really suspict you know, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:17:13):
And there's actually a developing story that I'm looking at
right now, although of course it's unconfirmed, but apparently also
in Las Vegas, there's a heavy police presence spotted in
South Fremont Street in Las Vegas, unconfirmed reports of a
hostage situation. So they don't know that if it's related

(01:17:35):
to what happened at the Trump Tower or not. But
there's just too many things happening all at the same time.
It's kind of kind of makes us all nervous.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Yeah, that's why is this all happening in Vegas? Like
they really want to ruin everybody's good time?

Speaker 8 (01:17:54):
Eh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
I wonder if you ever wonder if this is just
something like exclusive to our species. Yeah, like there are
other species out there worrying about fucking terrorists too.

Speaker 10 (01:18:11):
Or we live in the world at the moment where
the rich are getting richer and the poorer getting poorer.
And I'm sorry to say, all you need to do
is go back through history and have a look what
happens to civilizations when the rich gets too rich and
the poor get too poor. And we are literally going

(01:18:31):
through history right now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
It's true. I think you're going to have a lot
more unrest when people are suffering financially, right, you just
kind of snap when you can't put food on the
table or something like that.

Speaker 10 (01:18:47):
Inverse pyramid darsie, it starts off with the pyramid working properly,
where then at the bottom, us little plugs are doing
our little forty hours a week and ban our tacks
sending their kids to scull and pan the bills, and
it all filters out to the alms at the top.
But what they do is they get take grady at
the top, and when the pyramids starts to invent, what

(01:19:08):
happens to an invented pyramid, it falls down.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Yeah, So I did take a look at like this
hostage hostage situation that Carlos brought up, And the interesting
thing is that I guess this happens pretty regularly in
Vegas because the first hit when I searched was a
hostage that was taken on July eleventh, twenty twenty three,

(01:19:33):
in Caesar's Palace, and it was just like a man
took a woman, and yeah, the police ended up apprehending
him and releasing a woman. But there is a times
now on MSN articles saying that there's a hostage situation,
possibly because there's heavy police presence in South Fremont Street

(01:19:58):
hours after the cyber truck explosion. So yeah, it's like
it's weird because the law enforcement kind of says, nothing
to see here, just some wacko with uh, you know,
a makeshift bomb from a cyber truck, you know, connecting

(01:20:21):
fireworks to it and detonating in front of Trump's hotel.
He's about to be president. It's kind of a message.
And then hours after there is this hostage situation with
a huge police presence. I mean, why is it just
like New Year's crazies or what is going on here?

(01:20:42):
It's kind of seems a little bit connected to me.

Speaker 6 (01:20:47):
I was just watching something.

Speaker 8 (01:20:49):
They were talking about it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:50):
And if you look at the front doors of the
tower itself, they didn't blast. Most of the blast went up,
So if this was a terrorist attack, they really didn't
know what they were doing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
Because of the design.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
Of the car took every the explosion went up instead
of out. And if you watch the pictures, you'll see
that that the glass doors are undamaged or unbroken.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Anyway, those doors probably to go, but anyways, it's quite glass.

Speaker 10 (01:21:25):
But the thing is going is you got to realize
that just because someone didn't know what they were doing.
It doesn't mean it's still dangerous. It just means they
didn't know what they were doing, right, which is good
that they didn't know what they were doing.

Speaker 5 (01:21:34):
And the danger is really copycats and inspiration for other people.
So I'm not saying there's any not any danger. That's
what the government said, and of course that's what they're
going to say, because they don't want to scare everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Yeah. Interestingly, like one minute ago, a Yahoo news are
like update from Cumberland Times News in Maryland said that
a Westport woman was charged Tuesday after falsely claiming a
juvenile was being held captive at gunpoint on Front Street

(01:22:11):
on a Front Street residence. The alleged what Ashley Nicole Miller,
forty one, allegedly told authorities that the youth was being
held by two people, prompting response of the Elleghany County
Special Operations Response Team. But that's in Maryland.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
What was her name?

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Karen Ashley Nicole Miller is who? But this is in Maryland,
So this is like another weird claim of a hostage situation.
I don't know, I don't know. You guys got a
lot of guns in the States. Maybe this is just

(01:22:58):
we're looking into this too much. But I guess we'll
see how the story develops.

Speaker 19 (01:23:03):
You know what I mean, i'd one to be more
concerned about is the copycat thing because unfortunately, yeah, it
gets out on say this is something.

Speaker 10 (01:23:13):
Else that they don't realize too darcy. Where at this
state of situation in the world at the moment, there's
so many things going on involving so many different countries,
so many different nationalities. But can you imagine how law
enforcement is trying to profile all this stuff. It'll be
chaos if you're looking at threat levels and if you're

(01:23:34):
looking at trying to be prepared for disturbances in the
public at the moment. I don't envy any law enforcement
agency at the moment at all, mate, because it would
be chaos trying to wake out whether the threat levels are.

Speaker 8 (01:23:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:23:51):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
This is all on the back of Trump taking presidency,
and I think one of his state mandates is to
like consider shutting down intelligence agencies and stuff like that, right,
which I think is that's got to be super contentious,
like for some people that believe that that like essentially

(01:24:18):
the deep state runs everything, and the deep state is
probably like the intelligence agencies like c I, A, FBI,
d I A whatever. But these are.

Speaker 10 (01:24:32):
Can you imagine I'm not trying to be a smile
I say, but can you imagine what the guys in
the agencies are thinking about? He's just been appointed as
the head of secret intelligence.

Speaker 20 (01:24:44):
Yeah, who's that? What isn't it Telsea Gaba, Tulsi Gabbo Deba,
Telsey Gabba, Chelsea Gabbard is some some South of America
senator now tulse okay? And no, no, no, no.

Speaker 7 (01:25:08):
She she was. She was a congresswoman, a former congress
woman representing the state of Hawaii. Her name is Tulci
Gabbard and she's a nominee, but she might not make
it because she is obviously a Russian asset and even
Republicans know that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Hmm okay, interesting, But is this a nominee from like
Trump's pick? Yeah, it's super weird. I mean, like if.

Speaker 10 (01:25:39):
If you're probably really the type of the Panama Canal
because he's threatened to type out of the Panama Canal
if they keep judging too much for shooting as well.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Well. Isn't Canada supposed to be the newest state of
the United States of America. Well, Enronment, it's never going
to go down. But uh, it's funny that you know
that that's like a presidential meme. Now wow, yeah, maybe

(01:26:14):
he should just get Mexico to become the next state.
See how that goes. I'm sure he'll read that.

Speaker 10 (01:26:22):
I mean, I'm not jelly paty. Can you imagine the
incoming president threatening too Taki in the Panama Canal? Can
you imagine what people are thinking?

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Oh, I mean, there's got to be all kinds of
instability and fear in the allies of the United States
right now. And you know that's not just north and
south of the border. That's abroad. That includes places like
Panama and what's going to happen with Ukraine. I mean,

(01:26:56):
there's all of these mounting factors that people want to
see some kind of change when he comes into power.
But is it going to be that easy? And is
it going to cause more chaos and damage to you know, freedom,

(01:27:16):
liberty and the American, Canadian or Mexican people, you know,
like all their allies because.

Speaker 10 (01:27:24):
Cant can you explain something to me? How does how
does the reign that president in the United States get
to slip Ukraine a quick four billion in nic before
he steps out of the door and happen.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
I think because the United States and Biden's administration still
views Russia is a great enemy and they want to
support Ukraine financially as much as they can while they
still can to keep that warfront well supplied and financially fueled.

Speaker 10 (01:28:01):
So it'sn't give them any money. Only giving them is
bullets and missiles. They're not giving them. The Ukraine hasn't
had any money off America. I mean, America is not
giving any money to your Ukraine. All America is giving
to Ukraine as weapons.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Well, no, I heard there was definitely money. I don't
know if that's completely accurate. Kent Like this Christmas, I
was hanging out with a Ukrainian check.

Speaker 10 (01:28:27):
It out right, there's not What are they giving them
cash for to pay their other bills?

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
H I think it's they've been giving billions of dollars
to fund, you know, the war effort basically, and that
includes weapons, munitions, uh, you know, economic stimulus for that
that country because they've been bombed in their cities or

(01:28:54):
being taken out in small businesses, medium businesses, everybody's livelihood
are being affected. I think that money is definitely being
injected into the country to keep them, you know, stable
up against Russia, which is a much larger economic and

(01:29:16):
military power. So of course there there has been money
that's sent over there, whether that some of it's been
misappropriated or miss uh spent uh maybe even sequestered away
for private interests. That that could be a very real situation,
But it doesn't mean all of it is being done

(01:29:39):
that way. It means that much of it is still
being used to you know, support the war effort against Russia,
which is not an ally of the United States. That's
my read on it. I guess not everybody's going to
agree with me, but what can you do.

Speaker 10 (01:30:02):
Yeah, probably not a good subject, but yes, I shouldn't
have brought it that night. Now. It's just it just
amazes me that there's just so much going into all
of this now at the time when we should be
really focusing on what the hell is going on with
that future?

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
You know, well that is part of our future, right
because if Europe continues to be affected by the war
between Russia and Ukraine economically and militarily, that economy has

(01:30:36):
ripples around the world. You know, the EU.

Speaker 10 (01:30:40):
Doesn't not really. No, I don't want, I want, I
don't want to go into it. But it doesn't. It's
it's all bullshit. It's just political propaganda.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
I don't know about that, man. I think there's bigger things.

Speaker 10 (01:30:56):
I was involved with people who were spending the these
money involved here. You know, I'm nice some of these
people personally, and these people couldn't give it away faster enough.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Okay, well here we got the cat here, Aaron, how
you doing? Welcome up? What's going on? What's your assessment
of the UFO situation as well as the attacks that
have happened in the past twenty four hours. Cyber trucks

(01:31:28):
exploding in front of Trump Hotel in Vegas and New Orleans,
attack drones throwing it all at you. Man, you're talking
to me, talking to you, I can't see.

Speaker 11 (01:31:46):
Just because it's muted, like it's acting weird. So I
mean it was very obviously a terrorist attack. The first
part of what you said, cyber truck or you once Yeah, No,
I mean, because look, you have you have the same
tactics being done by isis using a truck to run
people over in New Orleans, and then you have a

(01:32:07):
truck that explodes in front of Trump Tower. Yeah, it's
that I think is a very obvious, like terrorist attack.
The other stuff going on, I mean you had China
just openly say they hacked the US Treasury, So I
mean that's a war move, right, So, I mean there's
a lot of stuff that's been going on that's not

(01:32:28):
really privy to the public.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Yeah. I think we're supposed to be distracted rather than
paying attention to real things that are happening. What's your
what's going on with your twenty twenty five what's your
New Year's resolution? What do you think is going to
come down the UIFO disclosure pipeline?

Speaker 11 (01:32:57):
Yeah, so I mean, like disclosure wise, I mean, I
don't know exactly like what's it's gonna happen this year,
if it's gonna anything's gonna go forward or whatnot. But
it is very obvious that there's there's something going on
that they're not really telling people the truth about it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
Yeah, Dale Martin, you're still here, right, buddy. What's going on?
What's what are you looking forward to for twenty twenty five?
And really other than Shag Harber, the Shag Harber conference.

Speaker 6 (01:33:32):
Well, you know, I I don't have anything in mind.

Speaker 9 (01:33:34):
You know, the years seem to kind of blend, you know,
blend in together.

Speaker 6 (01:33:40):
But you know, I mean, I'm always hopeful that the
needle is going to be moved a little bit more.

Speaker 9 (01:33:45):
And you know, you know, whether whatever attitude I have
about the incoming administration, if it's there's going to be
a segment of that that can actually get involved in
more transparency, you know, I have you know, I would

(01:34:07):
have great respect for that. I would really like to see,
you know, if we can actually know more of what
is known. You know, like I've mentioned on my own
show a number of times, I really believe they government
does not have the full picture, and therefore disclosure would

(01:34:30):
be very difficult because if they can't tell us what's
going on, how can they possibly say they can protect us.
So so I have all that in mind, but you know,
I do hope that at least it would be you know,
a push forward if we could know more of what
is truly known.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
Undoubtedly, Look, we do have interesting folks that are kind
of being positioned in the Trump team that are pro
UFO disclosure. I met Mike Rounds at the UAP Disclosure Fund,
like Mike Elzondo after event after the November thirteenth UAP

(01:35:21):
Congressional hearing. Eric Burlson was also there. He was quite
adamant that, you know, there's something happening with this UFO
subject and they want to push for more transparency. And
these are powerful people, these are interesting people that are
part of the the government. And I think, Carlos, what

(01:35:48):
do you think who else in this Trump administration might
be pushing for disclosure like never before.

Speaker 7 (01:35:59):
Oh sorry, Darthy, I had my hand up, but it
was just to ask a question to the gentleman here
from UFO the podcast UFO.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Martin willis, Yeah, but yeah, go ahead, it.

Speaker 7 (01:36:14):
Doesn't have any I didn't know you got no, it
was you, Martin. I'm sorry, Well, I don't have any
opinions with Yeah, can you hear me?

Speaker 6 (01:36:25):
Something going on here?

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
You guys are just talking over each other. That's all
that's going on. I think everybody can hear you, guys,
So just take take a chance, take a second.

Speaker 11 (01:36:36):
It's not showing yeah, but for me, it's not showing
who's speaking either, So that might be the issue they're
having to.

Speaker 7 (01:36:42):
I'll drop down.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
No, no, no, we can hear you. Man, ask your question
to Martin. Martin, can you hear Carlos.

Speaker 7 (01:36:51):
That person speak? Okay, Well, I just have one question.
I was actually very moved with the episode that you have,
you know, in honor of Christopher O'Brien.

Speaker 6 (01:37:03):
You cannot hear Carlos.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Okay, Carlos dropped down and pap pack up brother, and
we'll get your question asked.

Speaker 10 (01:37:14):
Yeah, it's Quincy when we have good discussions.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Man, here we go. We got
Carlos here, Carlos. Can you try again?

Speaker 7 (01:37:28):
Yeah, marn can you hear me?

Speaker 6 (01:37:29):
I can hear you now?

Speaker 7 (01:37:31):
Excellent. I just have a quick question concerning your podcast.
You had an episode recently commemorating or honoring Christopher O'Brien,
who recently had passed away, and I believe that you
also mentioned that you were going to have one for
Emily Trim as well, which I would be extremely interested
in listening to. Is that episode out yet or are

(01:37:52):
you still working on it?

Speaker 10 (01:37:53):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:37:54):
Thank you. Yes, it's a very sad case of Emily Trim,
who was part of the area school. You know, the children,
the sixty five children that were actually noted as there
were more actually, but you know, that were noted as
that saw the nineteen ninety four you know, aerial school incident.
There very sad, you know, but I am waiting for

(01:38:20):
Randall Nickerson. He's you know, very hurt about this, the
loss of Emily. So once Randall is up for it,
then I'm going to yes, I will be doing, you know,
a tribute to her.

Speaker 6 (01:38:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (01:38:37):
Was he a friend of yours? Sir? Did you hear
that question?

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Was Emily a friend of yours? Martin?

Speaker 10 (01:38:50):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:38:51):
You know, I just spent time with her in Phoenix.

Speaker 9 (01:38:54):
I went to her room and sat with her and
looked through artwork because you know, I'm an article, but
you know, she uh, she had a lot of work
she had brought to Phoenix, and you know, and there
were a couple of things that I thought, well, you know, uh,

(01:39:15):
maybe not my style of whatever, but there was one
or two pieces that I think, geez, you.

Speaker 6 (01:39:20):
Know, I wouldn't I would own that. You know, she
was really she really did have some talent.

Speaker 21 (01:39:26):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:39:26):
But I can tell you I knew her as someone emotional.
Now in touch with Randall Nicholson quite a bit over
these last years, and when he was working with her,
she's she had had some emotional issues and it's very
sad that she had this cancer and in what happened.
And you know, I heard about it when I was

(01:39:47):
down in Washington.

Speaker 10 (01:39:48):
D C.

Speaker 9 (01:39:49):
Randall told me about it, and but I didn't realize
it was as quick acting as it was, and before
you knew it, she was gone.

Speaker 6 (01:39:56):
She was young, that's right.

Speaker 9 (01:40:00):
I don't know exactly, you know, I mean, I can't
remember her age, but I think it was, you know,
she was in her thirties.

Speaker 7 (01:40:09):
And did she get to you know, did she ever
get to talk about everything that she experienced because the
only thing that I know, you know, was you know,
the Arua documentary that Brandon Nicholson had put out and
other literature about the case. But I know for a

(01:40:30):
fact that you know, some of those kids did mention
that they had some more experiences, like actual experiences with
the visitors.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
And she was one of them.

Speaker 7 (01:40:42):
And did she ever talk about those in death with
either Randall or yourself?

Speaker 6 (01:40:48):
Not that not that I'm aware of. You know, there
is an interview that I have her.

Speaker 9 (01:40:53):
The easiest way to see that as podcast UFO Live
on YouTube or my website. You can search it there.
But I did having a rare interview with her a
number of years ago. I don't remember her discussing that,
but since she passed away, that has Uh, there's been

(01:41:13):
a lot of people watching that because I don't think
she was interviewed too many times.

Speaker 6 (01:41:17):
So it may be interesting for you to check that out.

Speaker 10 (01:41:22):
If you can hear me, ducie could mean asking me
if you can't hear me. Also, I pad if you can.
But were you convinced of his story yourself? We convinced
that she was doing you, that it was a real occurrence.
I'll rethuncle datsy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Yeah, recycle great, Martin, did you hear that?

Speaker 10 (01:41:42):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:41:42):
I don't understand why I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
It's a glitchen. It's a glitchen Twitter. It's not always
like you were, you know, it's it's not it's not
a cyber attack. It's just the way this glitchy app works.
I brought Kent back up. Kent. Maybe you can try again.
We'll see if Martin can hear you.

Speaker 10 (01:42:06):
Yeah, it can mean in me Martin, Yes, I do, Yeah, Martin,
I love the aerial story. I think it's a fascinating story.
Would mean knowing the lady bas noly do you will
you convince just in yourself. This is just your opinion.
Were you convinced of the genuineness of her story and
the genuiness of this audi and what actually.

Speaker 9 (01:42:27):
It Absolutely without a doubt to me, I think it's
the most compelling case of them all. That's how I
felt for a long time, you know, just looking into
it as much as information and that I could find
out there on this from when I first started looking
into this topic, and I truly believe that something really happened.

(01:42:52):
I also had Francis melkshooda I can't remember exactly how
you pronounce his name, and he is one of them.
He was not in the aero phenomenon in school, but
I mean film in the air of phenomenon.

Speaker 6 (01:43:06):
But he, you know, told me some very interesting things and.

Speaker 9 (01:43:10):
Real nice guy, real cool guy, you know, and one
of them, you know, was he he did he had
a regressive hypnotism because he wanted to try to figure
out if he could have been imagining, you know, some
of these things that happened to him. And he said
it was a good thing for him to have done,

(01:43:32):
because he realized, you know, the truth and what he
had been thinking all these years and one of the
things that he noticed is one of the beings when
they were it's very hard to describe. It was hard
for him to describe, but I'll try to I'll try
to say, you know, as close to what he said
to me is that these being like went sort of

(01:43:56):
by him and was heading toward the pool, and it
seemed to blink out and blink in in front of itself,
you know, almost like an interdiventional type of situation. I mean,
as near as I can figure. But anyway, I think
these kids are all authentic. And I've had some acidic

(01:44:19):
on a number of times and met her in New
Jersey and sat and talked with her, and she's very,
very eloquent, very eloquent speaker, and I totally totally feel
as though everything she's relayed is absolutely authentic. And one

(01:44:40):
of the things, you know, she was four feet away
from the being, only four feet away, and she said that,
you know, the skin was like look almost like a
white porcelain, like an off white pearl opalescent sort of porcelain.
And the eyes there was a lock in the eyes.
And she said when she had to go, she just

(01:45:02):
had this fear of her siblings that she wanted to
go check on them, and she was breaking eye contact
from the being. She said it was one of the
hardest things that she has ever done, is to actually
break that eye contact. And boy that you know, when
she was telling that story to me directly, you know,

(01:45:22):
face to face or whatever that was, it was, I
was getting, you know, goosebumps.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Quick follow up, Yeah, one second, super creepy, A like,
I just wanted to say that when you hear the story,
and I I would say, everybody should head over to
Amazon or Apple TV or wherever you can see Ariel

(01:45:50):
Randall Nickerson's film. I think it's one of the best
uap UFO history documentaries out there. I'm a friend of
Randall's as well. And when Emily passed away, I reached
out to him and was like, what happened? And I
guess we'll figure it out. But he did say to me, Emily,

(01:46:12):
the lead in aerl Phenomenon, passed away on Tuesday at
thirty three forty five PM, which would have been Tuesday,
November twenty sixth twenty four. She was thirty eight years old.
And you know, he feels really badly for her family
and friends because it was an untimely early death. And yeah,

(01:46:38):
that was my.

Speaker 10 (01:46:39):
Follow up actually was has anyone done any chicks to
see if the because all the area school kids were
exposed to these these other entities and the spacecraft, has
anyone done any correlation chicks to see if there's any
higher cancer rates in the area school kids.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
That's a good question.

Speaker 10 (01:47:02):
I think it would be a very worthwhile check because
we know that exposure to the phenomenon seems to increase
grant cancer rate. I think it'd be a really interesting
exercise where someone with better resources than me, you know,
it does seem to actually go back and have a
look as they're higher cancer rate amongst the aerial school
kids and what types of cancers might be present. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
I will say that I did find out recently that
there is a uranium mine that's actually very close to
this part of Zimbabwe. It's a you know, interesting yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:47:48):
Because uranum is the next stage.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
But yeah, I mean, hold, yeah, yeah, I was just
going to say that, you know, the mine uranium there
and supply were at the time in the nineties and
UFOs have popped up all around uranium or nuclear facilities

(01:48:14):
or you know, bomb detonations, Like wherever there is this
atomic nuclear activity, UFOs seem to be attracted to it,
and it just so happens. This craft that touchdown and
people saw entities outside of it was right around a

(01:48:36):
highly nuclear area of the Zimbabwe Rua, Zimbabwe area. So
I'm try and find some more information on that while
you guys are chatting.

Speaker 10 (01:48:53):
Yeah, hold on, can't.

Speaker 7 (01:48:55):
Hold on because mister cat has his end up too,
thank you?

Speaker 11 (01:49:00):
Okay, Yeah, I was gonna say Emily, before she died,
there was a video that was put out where she
specifically warns about these beans and says, uh, basically leaves
a warning teagmanity.

Speaker 8 (01:49:16):
It was both posted by ufo B.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
You will was the warning? Is it on YouTube?

Speaker 8 (01:49:23):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (01:49:24):
It was posted by ufo B on YouTube? Yes, correct,
on his Twitter.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
We're gonna work. Oh, it's on Twitter.

Speaker 11 (01:49:35):
I'm gonna it's on It's on both but uh he
he posted it on his Twitter from his YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
All right, guys, let's listen to this. How about that?
How long ago was that?

Speaker 10 (01:49:46):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
Two months ago?

Speaker 8 (01:49:50):
Yeah? Yeah, roughly two months ago.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
Okay, I'm gonna find it, Ufo B.

Speaker 7 (01:49:59):
Other than environmental catastrophe, what other warnings.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
I mean, was it anything else that was new kat.

Speaker 11 (01:50:07):
No, she warned directly about about the beans themselves, saying
that they were deceivers and.

Speaker 8 (01:50:13):
That I don't remember her full statement.

Speaker 11 (01:50:17):
I don't want to misquote it, but yeah, she warned
that they were deceivers and a bunch of other things
in her statement.

Speaker 8 (01:50:24):
But it was a video that was posted the day
she died or the day after, something like that, and
it was supposed in UFOB.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
Hmm, I am not seeing that on U. Maybe he
just clipped it from somewhere else else.

Speaker 11 (01:50:42):
Yeah, no, correct, Yeah, he collects clips and puts him
on his channel.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
Uh, and it's about two months ago. Let me see
if I can find his BEAUTI phoeb Ram. It's going
to be forever. He might have clipped from James.

Speaker 11 (01:51:07):
No, No, it's not from from her. But if you
can give me her last name, I can find. I
can find the statement.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
R I am Emily Trump. Yeah, send me the link
and I'll pull it up.

Speaker 10 (01:51:32):
Yeah. The question I was going to ask was as
from uf I, was do you think that the if
you look at the area landing sentirety and the whole
series of events that went on do you believe to me,
it sounds like it was a bungled first attempt at
contact by a separate species that had been monitoring us,

(01:51:55):
That that might not necessarily have been a species that's
been coming near the hundreds of years, That it might
have been some sort of a first attempt a proper
contact from a spaces that had been monitoring us but
didn't really understand the dynamics. Does that make any sense
to you?

Speaker 6 (01:52:20):
Who are you asking that question of?

Speaker 10 (01:52:21):
Ken? Oh? I was asking you podcast? You for a podcast?

Speaker 8 (01:52:27):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:52:27):
Yeah, Well, you know, that is really an interesting theory,
you know, I.

Speaker 6 (01:52:34):
You know, I don't know what to say about that.

Speaker 10 (01:52:37):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:52:39):
That someone that visited us for the first time and
came down and saw these children, that thought that was
what inhabited the planet.

Speaker 10 (01:52:49):
Yeah, I'll put some context behind it. Sorry to take
jump in, but I'll put some contexts behind it. If
you have a look at it from a holistic point
of view, The Africa part of our genetics is the
what we understand to be the oldest, the most original
part of our genetics. A school was a learning center

(01:53:10):
and the children are the future of the planet. So
if you were a species that had been monitoring the
f but didn't really understand the dynamics of politics and
blah blah blah. If you saw us all this a
different group of one species, then you would say, Okay,
let's go to the most original form, which is the
because we're all related to Ethiopia eighty thousand years ago,

(01:53:34):
let's go to a learning center and let's go and
give some advice to the children who are going to
be the future of that planate. I thought that would
make some perfect sense to me.

Speaker 9 (01:53:44):
Well, you know, I think there is something true that well,
you know, that particular area was colonized, British colonized, you know,
with some you know, I mean there was a mixture
of people there. But regardless of that, you know, there
are over I think one hundred and twenty school sightings
and I actually uncovered one in South Africa from someone

(01:54:07):
that contacted me, a very credible witness. So there's a
lot of school sightings, and you know, we know of
about one hundred and twenty, but I think there's probably more.

Speaker 10 (01:54:20):
Way two westle sixty six is running Australia too.

Speaker 9 (01:54:24):
That's right, Yeah, yeah, No, there's there's a lot of
interesting and you know, it could very well be that.
You know, there's that children are more open and can
be an influenced easier. And I'm sure you heard of
a lot of them seeing what they thought was the
earth was being destroyed, no real solutions, but they worship

(01:54:47):
being showed that, And you know, I think that's all
a fascinating part of the case as well.

Speaker 10 (01:54:57):
Yeah, I mean it makes perfect sense to me that
they see for me. If they came down here and said, right,
this is what you've got to do, and this is
what you can't do, we would start rebelling because we
would say, who the hell do you think you are
coming to tell us what to do. But if they
came down here and said, well, look, if you guys
keep going the way you're going, and if you stop

(01:55:17):
worrying about nature and only worry about technology, this is
what you're going to do, that would be a good
way of sort of trying to encourage the youth of
the future to take a more natural approach to the
balance between earth and life on the Earth.

Speaker 6 (01:55:35):
Yeah, a very good point.

Speaker 10 (01:55:41):
Kat.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
Where's that clip, brother? I want to play it?

Speaker 8 (01:55:44):
Well, I'm looking for it. I think I found it.
I think this is.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
It drop it to me on signal? But uh yeah,
I think the world being destroyed or some kind of
destruction in our future. That is so like common by experiencers,

(01:56:11):
not only Ariel School, but you have the way dms
it on Twitter. Okay, thanks, So can you drop it
on signal because I'm on Twitter right now, like sharing
my screen online and I don't really want to open

(01:56:34):
up myzy people looking at stuff. But yeah, You've got
like a Maori a Maori Rivera who's a Puerto Rican
native that experienced an abduction event with multiple other Puerto
Ricans and they said they saw an asteroid hitting the

(01:56:56):
planet kind of destroying it and this mostly apocalyptic future
that humans had to live through after that. You have
who's the guy that moved to Australia, Jim Sparks. He
said he saw all of these projections of chaos in

(01:57:18):
the future as an abductee. You also have I'm trying
to think who else is like a prominent well Betty
and Barney Hill. They they also reported they were one
of the first like super popular experiencers in the UFO

(01:57:41):
abduction phenomenon. Billy Meyer Okay, Billy Myer is a questionable individual.
I will say Michael Horn has called me the moron
of ufology because I said that, but you could check
it out. He's a total d bag. But yeah, I

(01:58:02):
think it is a common theme. And if there is
that kind of future, we're almost living it right now.
Right we're at the precipice of possible nuclear war that
has been but also.

Speaker 7 (01:58:20):
The realization that these these things might be deceitful. I mean,
I've read so many abduction accounts that they kind of
blend together after a while. But uh, one thing that
I do know that I've read quite a few of
them are accounts of people, uh and their impressions that
these beings are deceitful, including Whitley Strieber, who, by the way,

(01:58:44):
also says, you know that his experiences, even though some
of them have been negative but overall have been a
net positive for him. He does say that that these
these beings are deceitful. So that's actually an area where
I'm actually very interested in. And I think you need
to recycle down, Ken, because I can't hear you recycle down.

Speaker 2 (01:59:05):
Please man, let me, uh, let me just pick up
from where you left off there, uh, Carlos, because we
actually do have the clip now that Emily Trim I
think that's the clip gave gave some testimony at a
Zimbabwe Uh where was this? Apparently the audio is low quality,

(01:59:30):
so when I play it, I'm gonna turn it up
on my side. Y'all just try to be quiet.

Speaker 1 (01:59:35):
For sec we're not hearing it.

Speaker 7 (02:00:32):
Darcy.

Speaker 2 (02:00:34):
Well, thank you very much for reporting that. Give me
a second here, that's funny. Of course, I'm playing it
for like two minutes. Give me a sack, I'll get it.
I'll get it playing in two seconds.

Speaker 6 (02:00:53):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
And that's just cats. All right, Yeah one secon. We're
just gonna play that clip again. Here's round two. Let
me know if give me a thumbs up. If you
hear this, I.

Speaker 22 (02:01:21):
Want Zimbabwe so right this when this happened?

Speaker 8 (02:01:31):
No, sure, I can't hear anything.

Speaker 23 (02:01:33):
Have a brother and sister also still the event.

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
Missionaries, that's weird. Come on.

Speaker 10 (02:01:45):
Here, he d.

Speaker 2 (02:01:48):
Can you hear that? Can you hear this?

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):
Missionaries? A sharming?

Speaker 8 (02:01:57):
Do you have a sound capture card?

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
I mean the quality is low quality. It says that
right on ufob's post here.

Speaker 10 (02:02:08):
It's l q uh.

Speaker 2 (02:02:10):
Maybe that's the reason. Are you hearing like, is it
just sounding like blips?

Speaker 6 (02:02:15):
No, nothing really.

Speaker 10 (02:02:20):
Kind of hat kind of even hear the voice Dusty.

Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
Yeah, I'm gonna try one more time and let me know.

Speaker 6 (02:02:26):
All right, while you're trying that, I just want to
say good night to everyone.

Speaker 9 (02:02:29):
Unfortunately I have to leave. Oh yeah, yeah, thank you all,
and happy new year. Hope twenty twenty five.

Speaker 6 (02:02:35):
Is a great one for everyone.

Speaker 2 (02:02:36):
Thank you, Thank you Bardon for joining us tonight. We'll
try and get you back on. Thanks bro, all right,
you've back.

Speaker 6 (02:02:43):
Happy night everyone, Happy New Year.

Speaker 10 (02:02:48):
That's a shame. I wanted to talk to him about
potential features.

Speaker 2 (02:02:51):
But anyway, Yeah, sorry about that night. Um, let's try that.
Maybe if I turn it down bit on the source
here and then boost it. Okay, let me know, let
me know.

Speaker 22 (02:03:06):
Before that and then just in and we all attended.
Area was a lovely slow.

Speaker 10 (02:03:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
It's so weird because like it works, it was working
before really well, whenever I'm playing music and stuff.

Speaker 10 (02:03:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
Maybe if I put it in give me a sec here,
let me see if I can.

Speaker 10 (02:03:40):
You should be able to share it up to the
nest and then you can let me.

Speaker 2 (02:03:44):
I t this situation can you guys, tell me if
you hear it now the youkay, I'm going to boost it.

Speaker 23 (02:04:00):
With family five mm hm. I have a brother and
a sister. My brother was also at the school joining
the time of the event. My parents are missionaries for
the Salve a Charming And that's said. We were dying
rose and lovely we were taking before that, and then
we're just in and.

Speaker 22 (02:04:18):
We all attended Ariel j was a lovely school. Really
grateful for that experience, but inside the less beat us
to live and be.

Speaker 10 (02:04:32):
Okay.

Speaker 22 (02:04:33):
So on that day, I can only speak about my
perspective and where I was my have a children child,
It's gonna definitely aline. But it was recess and broad
daylight and h we were just staring our normal day

(02:04:55):
for days, and we were rounding logs along property and
one of the games that my friend and I used
to play was hopping along about their books. Then we
remembered a high pitched frequency.

Speaker 2 (02:05:11):
They were free.

Speaker 22 (02:05:11):
They saw a flash and bright and it's really hard
to describe time at this point, so I don't know
how long this all happened. And all I can tell
you and said two beings were hopping along the side

(02:05:32):
the mh. They were curious. They weren't touching about We're
almost like in the games. And all of a sudden
they were in front of us. I decided and then streach.

Speaker 2 (02:05:50):
Like an armed length away, and they were scared, and it.

Speaker 22 (02:05:55):
Just started going across the thanks communication to be eyed.
It's not a community to side it is and.

Speaker 10 (02:06:04):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (02:06:06):
She's getting telepathic images.

Speaker 22 (02:06:08):
One of the other. Else she about communication, the environment
for me, this technology.

Speaker 7 (02:06:18):
And this is how much well basically, yeah, I'll just
elaborate a little bit.

Speaker 24 (02:06:24):
So these two beings came in front of Emily and
her friend and instantly they started recreating these telepathic images.

Speaker 1 (02:06:35):
That were projected into their mind. And this was happening
experimely quickly.

Speaker 25 (02:06:40):
These were like thousands of images and at an incredibly
fast rate that we're being projected.

Speaker 1 (02:06:46):
And so for perception, perception of this was very impartent
because the it's like it's almost forcing you to see
a lot of information in a short period of time.
You never said anything.

Speaker 25 (02:06:59):
They communica through the WRO and Emily's message that was received.
What she said was a lot about technology the way
that Emily had explained it to me when I first
met her.

Speaker 24 (02:07:13):
She said the message was there's a good way of
using technology, there's a bad way of easing technology.

Speaker 10 (02:07:20):
You can do better.

Speaker 2 (02:07:21):
Mh.

Speaker 10 (02:07:22):
I'll just I'll never forget.

Speaker 1 (02:07:26):
You had any other experience, saying, I don't.

Speaker 23 (02:07:31):
Know if it's the exact same thing. Yes, So when
you're talking about the time, it's like an energy that's
all around.

Speaker 22 (02:07:42):
Us that it is causing time at that point field
of frozen like the.

Speaker 5 (02:07:54):
Did you explain what the other deeds that I'm going
to get her as far as yourn.

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
So she's right now, Just so you guys know, before
she responds to this last question, she has stated that
she's had another experience with another being, and she's indicated
that that experience, you know, she saw the technology sort

(02:08:29):
of message that we can do better because there's dangerous
technology and positive technology or something like that. And the
other individual, the other girl she was with, hopping along
these like border logs of the I guess property to
this you know, recess yard behind the school. That's where

(02:08:50):
these entities were kind of like hopping along mimicking them
after this flash of light and they saw this sort
of craft and saw these being and we're getting these
telepathic messages the other person she was with, the girl
got a message of destruction and like sort of the
apocalyptic stuff that's going to come.

Speaker 10 (02:09:09):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:09:10):
And somebody just asked her in this video basically like
what was the experience with the other being? And she's
about to reply, I'll.

Speaker 23 (02:09:25):
Just say that they can at the procession, so they
can change to make you sat and comfortable.

Speaker 26 (02:09:40):
The last encounter of her grands based back and forth
and alignment, and the ones you saw it looked like

(02:10:00):
raised me similar.

Speaker 3 (02:10:05):
The answers are oftentimes not necessarily.

Speaker 5 (02:10:09):
About you know, when they landed.

Speaker 7 (02:10:11):
Did they leave a footprint?

Speaker 1 (02:10:13):
If they did, they did, if they didn't they didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:10:15):
Then I remember Emily saying once to me, who cares
what the ship looked like? Who cares what it sounded like?
Who cares what they look like? She says, it's what
they're saying to us. So that's pretty much.

Speaker 2 (02:10:28):
Okay, so you're heard it. It's gonna turned out.

Speaker 11 (02:10:33):
Some of that, Uh exactly, it wasn't Did she did
she say anything about them to that because I didn't
hear that.

Speaker 27 (02:10:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:10:40):
So she said that the beings she sought in after
experiences were grays and when she saw them, they shifted
between being percepted as a gray and being a lion,
which is really weird. H And then she just kind

(02:11:03):
of was saying. Somebody said after that, like, well, weren't
the beings that you saw on the day you know,
of the aeral phenomenon in nineteen ninety four, weren't those
also resembling a gray? And then the video is like edited,
so it just kind of like cut, and then this

(02:11:24):
like co presenter was like, here's the deal. Who cares
what the beings look like? Who cares what they The
craft sounded like it you know, it's uh, it's real
by yay. I don't know. It just was a little
bit weird and abrupt.

Speaker 10 (02:11:44):
But I'm on that. There's there's an instriter explaining that.

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
Passy Okay, Kent, how do you explain that?

Speaker 10 (02:11:53):
Well, okay, if you let me take you on a
little journey. When we talk in in the race about
the future, we talk about the future being a coalescence
of now, and you'll get guys like science Bulb and
all these sort of people talking about potential futures now
because I talked about potential futures, because I talk about

(02:12:15):
the Titanic and the Book of the titan The Book
of the titan was written thirteen years before the Titanic
was built, but it describes an almost perfect fetaire of
the Titanic, thinking the unthinkable ship fore masts the whole lot.
And what I said was, if there are potential futures,
and if these beings, if these entities had the ability

(02:12:36):
to flash potential futures to the children, then she would
have seen maybe thousands of potential futures all at once.
That are all the different types of futures that we
can enter into as humanity. If we make a decision tomorrow,
so then nuclear weapons, our future is going to be
different as of tomorrow. If we make a decision tomorrow

(02:12:58):
to stop eating meat or to to do whatever we
do as a species. If we make that decision, how
future will change. The potential futures depend on the choices
that are being made today. And I think that's what
they're trying to tell us, that if we make the
right choices, we can have a better future. If we
make the wrong choices, it could be really bad.

Speaker 2 (02:13:19):
You know, I agree, I agree. What does everybody else
think of Emily Trim's account? There Carlos Cat Yeah, I

(02:13:41):
was just gonna say so.

Speaker 11 (02:13:43):
I don't know if that's the clip that I saw
of her where she says that they deceived us to
be careful warning basically warning us of them, And I'm
still kind of trying to look for if there's another clip.

Speaker 10 (02:14:00):
There's not more certain of the future moment, folks, than
we're either going to have a nuclear war or we're
going to have an environmental disaster. Anyone who anyone who
has an IQ above their shoe size can see that.
So if we make some decisions in the near future
to change that for the better or whatever, then what

(02:14:22):
these beings are shown to these kids could be true.
If we take the path of technology is just going
to save this because technology is the god of the future.
We're in big trouble. If we use technology to learn
how to strike a balance between us and the planet
and the other lifeforms here, then that could be the

(02:14:42):
good use of technology. But if you have a look
at it that, Darcy, you're a smart guy. You don't
need to be into the world or of the phenomenon
to know that we're in big trouble. And for me,
that's a very good reason why they're here, and that's
the reason why they're here in such force. Because they're
here the sea, it's going to happen. And to say
what feat is going to be?

Speaker 2 (02:15:04):
Possibly maybe they are future humans or like a two
point oho or three point oh version of us that
you can't even really call human anymore. I don't know,
there's it can't be survived, so there's Oh god, sorry,

(02:15:31):
go for a cat I was just going to say,
they can be us if they're if we were the
original you know, if we were the original being that's
been altered and eventually ended up being something not distinguishable
as human. Right, Like we're talking Michael p Masters theories

(02:15:54):
of X ray Tempestree model by what if we go
through cataclysm, and that's something he actually talks about. He
has looked into all of these experience or accounts of
visions of the future, and there's like this sort of

(02:16:15):
extremely chaotic period of time which we crawl out of
and because of the change to the planet, let's say,
nuclear radiation and so on and so forth, we had
to crisp our bodies, we had to change the human
condition in order to survive here. And maybe that's what

(02:16:40):
like a gray is maybe it's like something that's made
to withstand radiations and more inhospitable environments to human to
human one point zero.

Speaker 11 (02:16:55):
So what I was going to say in regards to
the grays, specifically the grays only the grays. Indigenous cultures, Brazilian, Indian,
they all call them the ant people. They recognize them
as the ant people, and they say that they are
negative against the human race. This is coming not from me,

(02:17:15):
This is coming from indigenous elders and everybody who's spoken
on this. There was a recent interview that was done
with a Brazilian indigenous chief where he was showed a
picture of the gray and he said, oh, yeah, that's
the ant people, and he said that those are the

(02:17:36):
beings that drag you down to the spiritual world, and
that's their belief. So that's what they believe. That's their
knowledge from being passed on from generations to generations. And
then there's also the skull experiments that were done in
the nineteen eighties, if you're familiar with those, and the

(02:17:59):
Skull looks experiment. The experiments that they did, they were
afterlife experiments and they ended up finding a picture of
a gray within those experiments.

Speaker 8 (02:18:12):
That came up. Hard to explain, but yeah, I thought
that was kind of something that should be added on
top for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:18:21):
For sure, guys, it's been a great space tonight. I
would love to talk all day and all night and
do a twenty four hour space, but I can't. I
got to get back to that crypto trade.

Speaker 8 (02:18:34):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (02:18:35):
I don't have any money, but I'd love some cryptic
Send me a bit kat.

Speaker 23 (02:18:43):
So.

Speaker 2 (02:18:43):
Yeah, everybody, take care of yourselves, happy twenty twenty five.
Let's keep it positive when we can be vigilant, look
out for each other, and let's keep talking UFOs and
see how things unfold in the future with regards to
the truth of this phenomenon. I will leave it at that.

Speaker 19 (02:19:05):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:19:06):
If there's anything you guys want to sign off with,
feel free to Otherwise, I'm just gonna play some music
and we can enjoy that.

Speaker 10 (02:19:18):
You know, try just to quick goods and I really
enjoyed the chance and a good intelligent conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:19:25):
Thanks Bessy, Thanks Sam to.

Speaker 8 (02:19:27):
You forget to stay new to your pets.

Speaker 2 (02:19:31):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (02:19:37):
Well, we'll live it.

Speaker 27 (02:19:38):
In let me tell you yea so web damn man,
I can eat up told fans that makes that.

Speaker 5 (02:19:45):
Should be a small You can't tell what man takespus.

Speaker 27 (02:19:49):
We have to do when fust and I'm kidding my
love in this one on list to be told. I
can't see, I can't breathe, no on my whip, and
now it's going to change their way because you can
always leap then again and never change a changing for.

Speaker 2 (02:20:09):
The w si W.

Speaker 21 (02:20:11):
It's agreed. Say where we live man, and I just
can't see you that has my butt and merst and sisters,
I wish have to give the pure they have well said,
always changes happy have you never twisting out there?

Speaker 2 (02:20:34):
You sit down for now?

Speaker 1 (02:20:37):
S burst that round.

Speaker 21 (02:20:42):
Of misfit in had to know where to begin if
I can slip, she can't take some tur The man
has man's.

Speaker 1 (02:20:51):
And now have fusiness.

Speaker 21 (02:20:53):
That can't you just color of their child and my
miss way.

Speaker 1 (02:21:00):
Well that's what they said yesterday. The seven have to
do my brain.

Speaker 6 (02:21:06):
I think it's not about any relation.

Speaker 21 (02:21:09):
Why so insan to be this as another sam There's
something here, these features that we have to see the
future