June 6, 2024 • 30 mins
The Lakers head coaching search takes an unexpected turn as sources reveal to Woj that the Lakers are preparing a massive offer for UConn's Dan Hurley. Join us on this episode of the Late Night Lake Show as Ricky and Alex react to Adrian Wojnarowski's breaking news from Thursday morning:
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- The Lakers' decision to target Dan Hurley
- Coach K deja vu?
- Was the J.J. Redick reporting a smokescreen?
- Would a Hurley hire impact the Lakers drafting or trading #17?
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Going on. Y'all, welcome toa new episode of Delay Now podcast powered
by nineteen Media Group. It isyour host, Ricky and Alex. I.
You know, it's what nine ohseven Central time, it is ten
o seven East Coast time. It'sseven oh seven West Coast time. And
it looks like we got some newsto talk about on the head coaching front
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and spoil alert, it ain't gotshit to do with JJ Reddick. Dan
Hurley has emerged as the lakers numberone target main objective for hiring as head
coach. We got to get intoit, Alex. He hit me up
in the DMS. He's like,bro, we got to talk about this,
right. I was like, yeah, you're right. Drop the kid,
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let me spend the block back homeand let's hop out. Bro.
So Alex, thank you for initiatingthis. Man. It's it's a hell
of a morning. It's a hellof a morning in Lakerland, is it
not? No? I mean Iwould, I would, I would take
you off the record, man.Like before we started setting in the kitchen,
my son is in his high chair, he's eating yogurt and berries.
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My wife is like cleaning up thekitchen, and I'm sitting there and like
I just glance at Twitter and I'mlike, oh, this is going to
dominate the news today, and she'slike what happened? And I'm like,
the Lakers are looking at a differenthead coach or whatever. And so,
uh, we have not heard BobbyHurley's name or not, but not by
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Dan Hurley his name mentioned at allthis entire time, Like this whole this
whole year, where Darvin was likeon the hot seat, not once did
we hear anything about yukon Dan Hurley. Nothing. It's and even once they
let go of Darvin, it wasJJ Reddick And now all of a sudden
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this morning, woe, just likeDan Hurley's been the target this entire time.
And so if that's true, thenas I tweeted earlier, it makes
sense because Rob Palinka, whenever wethink Rob's going in one direction, it
seems like he's got something else upto sleeve, much like when he traded
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for D'Angelo Russo and vandoin those guys, we thought he was looking at completely
different players. So this is true, and I know you've mentioned this.
I've mentioned this. If like theLakers need to act like the Lakers and
back up the Brinkstruck to get whoeverthat whoever they want. I know they
ran like a mom and pop shop, but they are indeed a fortune five
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hundred company. Like, let's let'suse your resources that you have. And
I've been a long advocate for goget Spoe and offer him thirty millions,
like do whatever you need to do. But obviously you can't do that.
So you look at the candidates whoare available. Dan Hurley has the most
oppressive resume, and I was readingthat he's turned down other college jobs.
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He's won two chips at Yukon,He's turned down other college jobs. He's
intrigued by the NBA. And ifyou're gonna make the jump from Yukon to
anywhere else, you don't go toCleveland, like like you don't go to
these other you don't go to Charlotte, you go to la you go to
the Lakers if you're gonna make thatjump, And they're gonna apparently back up
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the breaks truck and make him anoffer that it's gargantuan. I pray,
I pray that's the case. Itsounds like the WO is using words like
massive, massive, is not thatthat's a lot of zeros before des one
points that's what that means to me, So not to pocket watch the Lakers.
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I just we just pray, youknow, as lifelong Lakers fans,
that money don't become an issue withthis type of situation. And I think,
just like, it's so funny,man, that the world said in
this article, this is the twentiethyear anniversary of the Lakers trying to go
and get Coach K. Twenty yearsbro to the season where that whole saga
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an episode and then you know,if you are, you know, probably
above it age of twenty eight,you have some memory of this, that
that whole dilemma, right Coach Kand Kobe Lakers fans thought I was close
that was going down. That wouldhave been the craziest thing for us in
the midst of all of the Heycoaching turmoil after p Jacks left for the
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first time, yeah, for thefirst time, first time, and the
Lakers were trying to define the nextheir to the throne. And I had
mentioned it in a quick little reactionvideo on the Late Lake Shows Twitter account
that it took and I'm sure therewas some other stuff, but Coach K
said it was the letter from ayoung Duke fan that convinced him to stay
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with the franchise and finish his hiscareer as Duke's Hey coach. That can't
happen. That can't happen. I'msorry. In the wards of Michael Jordan,
fucked them kids, Fuck them allright. If it comes down the
letters, I'm writing a letter too, all right. If we need songs,
hell this ish track time. Ihave no problem, no problem dissing
an eight year old to twelve yearold or fourteen year old if they trying
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to come between Dan Hurley and theLos Angeles Lakers right now. So that
that's a warning every Billy, everyTimmy, every Grayson, every Chad,
every Brad, every Matthew, everyevery whatever, stay the fuck out of
grown folks business. We got shitto figure out right here. And I'm
dead as serious this is. Thisis probably one of the most exciting names
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that we have seen attached to theLakers. Hell Man, probably since p
Jacks came back for the second time. It's been it's either been rerun head
coaches that have been previously fired,non championship winning head coaches. You know,
Frank Vogel was highly regardless regarded decoratedhead coach all these years with the
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Pacers, so when he came overhe had a little bit of juice behind
him. But the Lakers have takena lot of chances on guys that just
really hadn't proved to do shit beforethen Byrons got not really had room to
do much. Luke Walker not reallyhad proved shit to do much. Darvin
Ham definitely hadn't proved it to domuch. Right, So this is not
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only the most highly decorated head coachthat the Lakers have been attached to in
years, this is a head coachby all intents and purposes, was not
available. That's what it gets meexcited, bro. And I'm sure other
teams may have kicked, you know, kicked the can, called Dan Early's
agent and asking he would he liketo come play for you know, coach
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the Orlando Magic, right, theUtah Jazz, whoever. But like you
said, that Laker phone call,that that whatever area code, right,
that la Aero code pop up onthe phone you you set up and you
see it a little bit, You'relike, huh, got a listen to
talk about this? Right? Andthen obviously the money portion on the end
it hopefully. Like we said atthe beginning that that that is no issue
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for us. One thing that isis dope to me about this, as
it's not like Dan Hurley is writingthe coattails of the glory days of his
Hey coaching achievements. He hit hisprime right now, right now today as
the back to back Hey coach championshipwinning head coach in the NC Double A
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men's basketball. You got that's thetop of the top, bro, And
you'll let me know. I don'twatch college as much. It seemed he
seemed pretty confident going into the tournamentthat his seam was the best team and
that they were going to win,and that kind of energy and his preparation
some people, when you are thatprepared, that confidence has no other choice
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but to shine through. So whatjust from what you know Dan Hurley yukon
days or any of his acumen thathe potentially bring it to the Lakers,
Alex, what are you most excitedabout if this were to happen. I
don't watch a whole lot of collegebasketball like I did when I was a
kid, but what I'll say isthat there's a lot of excitement around this,
and I had to ask people like, Okay, I know he won
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back to back chips, but like, why is he why is he good?
And I had people talking about hisplayer development, his offensive schemes,
and I went and watched a clipfrom him talking to JJ Reddick coincidentally,
and he talked about layering his offenseand having multiple actions out of formations,
like it looks like he knows whathe's doing. I mean, look,
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you went back to back championships.You know what you're talking about. Right.
The question is can his offense translateto the NBA, And Woj said,
multiple coaches have told him that itcan. And I saw Lebron's comment
about Dan Hurley's offense that he's excitedabout it, so I think that it
can translate. Mike, I waslooking at what he makes at UKHN.
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So he signed a six year,thirty two million dollar deal, so he
makes about five million a year,and if he leaves u Kon for or
another college, he has to payYukon back seven point five million. He
jumps to the NBA, he's gotto pay Yukon back one point eight seven
five million. Oh perfect, he'smaking five He's making five million a year
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and he's got to give them backalmost two million. The Lakers could easily
double his salary. I mean there'slike like, this's like if you're gonna
get him out, like give himten million a year. He's on a
six year deal. I'm tired ofus seeing new coaches every two years.
Give look, you know what,give him a ten year deal. If
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it doesn't work out, who careseat the money? But give him a
ten year deal, like double hissalary, and let's see where all of
this goes. Like but a lotof people seem to be excited. It's
funny. He was, you know, it was announced this morning, and
like all of a sudden, nobodycares about JJ Reddick anymore. And when
you stack him up against Reddick,Bret Jego, whoever else is out there,
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they're talking to Mike and Norri,they don't stack up many. They
just don't. And you're right interms of excitement. Like when Phil Jackson
left the Lakers. The first timewe brought in Rudy T. We've talked
about this before. Rudy T wasa two time, you know, a
two time championship coach, but thatdidn't work out. They tried to get
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coach k that didn't work out,and then they brought it. You know,
Byron Scott. He went to thefinals a couple of times with Jason
Kidd's nets. So Bybrant did havegood teams, but that didn't work out.
Vogel. Vogel won a chip withus. He had already been to
the Eastern Conference finals several times,but he was the Lakers third voice when
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they were even interviewing coaches back then, like there seems to be genuine excitement
around this, and I'll say this, man, I'll say this, I
swear to you. I thought,Okay, they brought in coach K as
a consultant, and the whole reasonfor that is Coach K is gonna point
them to in the direction of JJReddick. And here we are Coach K
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coach Bobby Hurley, who won twochips at Dude, and Bobby Hurley is
Dan Hurley's brother, and it's like, maybe this, maybe this really was
where like maybe they did not.My thinking is the Lakers had a direct
line to JJ Reddick through Lebron hada direct line to him, but I
don't know if anyone in the frontoffice had a direct line to Dan Hurley.
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And so to me, coach kprobably is that line to Dan Hurley,
and you know what, man,college coaches don't always work out in
NBA, but let's go for it. I don't want an assistant. I
don't want someone that's never coached.If you're going to bring in someone,
bring in the best head coach incollege. If you can't get the best
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person in the NBA, get thebest college coach, and let's go.
Thousand Lakers have been linked to previouscollege coaches in the past. Right,
there was little Kevin A. Leerumors when he came off the championship at
Yukon. Right, Obviously, coachcal has you know that he's his name
has always been connected with the franchise. Even you know our boy at Villanova,
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Jay Wright, when he was thereand he was at the top of
the tot, was like, oh, is he ever gonna make a jump?
And it's all all of those championshipsright coincided with eras of the Lakers
where it was downtime. So itwas like, hmmm, remember we can
cherry pick the top of the top. Over on the coaching side, since
it seems like the NBA circuit ofcoaches, either you're getting the reruns or
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the Lakers are missing on the upand coming. Hey, coaches, and
they're choosing the wrong ones to believeand invest in and give five year deals
to out side note shout out,Darvin Ham. Count that money for the
next three seasons. It must benot. I don't think there's a better,
a better job in sports than afired head coach with multiple years left
on his deal. Like Frank Vogelcan retire tomorrow in Night Gott and worry
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about shit. He has generational wealthjust off the places he's been fired from.
That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Theymight give me six months separate,
ye, right, I've been myjob seven year. They might give me
six months separate. But they gaveFranky Smokes to not coach a basketball team
no more. Brother, You don'twant to know what I'll do for that.
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think they're gonna go visit Dan earlyand it's beautiful residents wherever he is Genie
and Rob seems like they are leadingthe charge to bring him in. We
talk about who on the Lakers asfar as the superstars are involved in these
types of discussions. Is it Lebron, isn't Anthony Davis? Is it a
mixture of both, is it neitherone? We don't know. What we
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do know is Lebron James is afan of Dan Hurley and ironically so is
JJ Reddick. When they reacted tosome of Dan's Hurley's offensive coaching schemes and
his staff over at Yukon, Lebronhas tweeted out on their Mind the Game
podcast on the social media post talkingabout he's so damn good along with his
staff, super creative with their offense. Love it all right? I mean,
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if we could transfer that love andaffection to NBA games, I think
will already be in good shape.You move over to Anthony Davis. The
WOJE article talks about the Lakers havebeen committed to making all NBA ford Anthony
Davis significant part of the conversation mynext day coach, and we want to
make sure he's aligned with how anew coach plays to teaching him on offense,
defense, sources set. So,I mean we talked about James Brego
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and the eight connection the last partwe were together the Lakers. Obviously,
JJ Reddick is so funny. Ithought of the toy story meme of I
don't want to play with you anymore. That's how Lakers fans are treating AJ
Reddick, just dropping him off tothe side. Now that we got a
new shiny toy two infatuate over forthe next I don't know Finals week side
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note, man, this has tobe all attentional by the Lakers. Right
Boston, NBA Finals Game one Awoach, big woach. Hey, hey,
before you even get on the airthis morning, my brother, we
got some fun you go ahead,go ahead, deliver this to the people.
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And what's the conversation of today.It's going to be Dan Hurley in
the Los Angeles as the top headcoach in college basketball and the largest and
biggest NBA franchise, possibly marrying asone. Oh yeah, there's Game one
of the NBA Finals tonight as well. It's crazy and I mean you even
saw it the Kyrie interview at theNBA Finals, right the media availability number
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one first question they asked, brother, Hey, yeah, so did you
see Lebron's comments and how he missesyou? Why don't you tell us a
little bit about that. It's sonasty, but this is this is our
world. Sorry about everybody else,but this is the world we get to
enjoy in basket never adult moment inLakerland. Brother, Alex what what happened?
Well? What happened with your boyShams? What's going on here?
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Bro? I'm looking at this.Hang on, let me, I'll do
some picture in picture. I wastesting it out to make sure that it
worked earlier. But let's just let'sjust take a look at what we have
here. I knew something was upyesterday. I promise you I knew someone
was up yesterday. I tweeted out. I was like, hey, anybody
going like spinning the block on thatShams article in how the words are even
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put together? Lakers zeroing in onJJ Redick as front runner to be next
coach, sources Bro. The titleright there tells you we kind of guess
it, or we think we know, but we're still not sure that even
JJ is number one slash they're goingto hire him. The floor is yours,
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Alexoyd? What are we going on? Who can we trust in the
media these days, and we can'ttrust shops at the athletic. I mean,
the crazy part about this is likeJJ Reddick said this would be addressed
after the finals. So like,look, either yeah, it's like look,
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either Sham's straight up lied or hissources fed him some you know,
incredible information. I don't know,man, Like it's a bad look.
Like, look, it's one thingto say the Lakers are talking JJ Reddick,
he's one of the front runners whatever. Right, once you use language
like zeroing in, like you makeit sound like this is inevitable, right,
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And so for this to have droppedyesterday and then four am Eastern today,
Wode says, no, no,no, no, no. The
entire time, Dan Hurley has beenwho they want it some like it don't
look good for for Sean, LikeI'm I'm on Twitter now and like he's
getting roasted over that. So Idon't know, I like, it's not
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a good look. It's certainly nota good look for the athletic. So
I don't know, Like you're inthe room, like these guys are in
the rumor business, so obviously thatall these things are just rumors, even
the woad stuff nothing is that theink has not dried, so we don't
know Hurley's even gonna be the coach, but zeroing in on JJ Reddick and
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then ten hours later, the entiretime Hurley has been the guy like it's
it's so I said to you before, man like this is so Rob Plenka
for him to have someone else inmind and the media to get it completely
wrong. And to your point,I wouldn't be surprised if this leaked on
purpose because Boston's in the finals,I mean the Lakers at Boston. We
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don't like Boston at all us asfans. And whether it's the Lebron comments
about Kyrie and Kyrie answering Lebron stuffovershadowing some of the finals, or Kyrie's
love and affection for Kobe and himtalking about that as he enters this most
recent finals, and now the DanHurley stuff, or even JJ Reddick he's
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calling like calling the finals. He'sthe Lakers. For a team that didn't
make it out the first round,they sure are getting a lot of attention
this finals run. Yeah, yeah, we like that. We like the
moment. We like still in themoment, man spotlight stillers, that's what
the franchise does. If it's notus, it's gonna be talking about us
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one way or another. We leavethem with some, We leave them with
some, and it might be thetop head coach uh in college basketball.
This is all exciting stuff. Andyeah, I saw on Twitter too,
they're talking about they used Meet theGrams to talk to shams talking about you
lied, you lied about JJ ready, you lied about the front Runner and
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zero in it. I'm like,oh my god, it is It's not
even ten am, folks, gottthis is. This is that unfiltered,
non caffeinated hate. I'm here forit. I'm here for it. You'll
be all right, brother, butuh not a good look. I guess
we have to acknowledge that. Welljust you know, still still still kind
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of up there looking down at thetop of the mountain peak. So Chris
Haynes, we won't we won't shoutyou out, bro, But you used
part of that clip too. Theyall indications, all signed point two.
It's all good, it's all good. You're you're your underlying point though,
Alex, let's let's let's bring itto the light Rob in the front office.
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If this is going to be DanHurley as head coach. They did
a smoke screen master class. Smokescreen master Class. This is following up
on the transactions that you know,not this previous season, but the del
trade deadline stuff that no one sawcoming to your point. This is now,
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you know, starting to piece together, getting back towards moving in silence
behind the scenes and maybe letting someof the other media, members of the
media get fed some of the someof the leaks that we're okay with our
real moves. We're keeping under theright breast pocket and we're gonna keep We're
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gonna move like that. And thenhey, sometimes you gotta pop out and
show nicks. And I think Ithink dropping this on finals day is a
pop out by robbing company. Man. So I don't know, I don't
care what the number is. Yousaid a ten year deal. I think
I'm cool with the five year dealfor sure. I think anything under four
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gets a little weird, Like,why you just signed this man from a
whole other industry. Let's give himsome security. I don't think he jumps
for anything less than five years.I agree, it has to be.
It has to be moving. Also, you're moving across the country. Man,
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there's a whole lot going down.Here's my question before we get up
out of here, Lakers have hadplayed both sides of the fence of we're
gonna let the head coach pick hishis coaching staff. Yeah, we're kind
of gonna tell him who's gonna beon his coaching staff. Early's a well
decorated college coach with some history withhim and his staff. How do you
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see that piece playing out. Arethe Lakers gonna let this man do his
thing and make his coaching staff inhis image, or do you see them
doing the most like they did withTylu and start saying, nah, we
need you to put these pieces together, you know what. Like they basically
told Vogel who had to be onhis staff and it was a really good
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staff. They let Darvin pick hisstaff and it wasn't a good staff.
Hurley's too decorated to tell him whoto put on the team on his staff.
But what I'll say is that ifhe's going to bring his yukon staff,
you got to put an NBA,like a former NBA head coach or
somebody on that staff too, Likeyou have to who that is I don't
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know, but they got to puta former head coach on that staff with
him. But you can't. Idon't think you can tell him dump your
staff and pick all these other guys. You can't tell him you have to
hire Rondo, or you have tobring in JJ Redick, or you have
to bring in Jared. You can'tsay that. Now. It wouldn't surprise
me if Reddick ends up on thestaff. See a path there, whether
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or not, I don't know,but I can see a path. But
yeah, you can't tell him toput no like here. Ultimately, here's
the thing, man, he's atYukon. They could vary well three P
like they could very well three P. And so if he's gonna jump,
it's gotta be like it's got tobe his way or else why leave Yukon
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at all? Like why come herebe told what to do? If fizzielle
in two years and you just gaveup the Yukon coaching job, like so
they gotta it's gotta be his way. I don't know. They get weird
with these coaching staffs man, LikeI don't understand it. Like Vogel was
an experienced coach and you pick hisstaff, and Darvin was an inexperienced coach
coach and let him pick his ownstaff. He let Luke pick his own
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staff, Like, just let himbring his guys. See if you can
get a former head coach on theteam with them, NBA head coach and
let these guys rock. I mean, and my point, I assume this
deal has if it happens, hasgot to happen quickly because recruits at recruits
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who have signed on to go toYukon have thirty days to transfer, and
then you've got the NBA Draft comingup. Also, so like if you're
gonna make him the coach and he'sgot to come to your point across the
country, like you got to dothis now, yeah tomorrow, Yeah,
like that shit's got to yep,we gotta start. But that's a great
point, bro, Like, yeah, there are some pretty key dates on
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the horizon, not even to mentionfree agency, right, So oh man,
it does make me think about seventeen. Now, would Hurly want to
keep seventeen as a as a collegecoach? You know? Like when the
hardball came from and went from Michiganto the Chargers, it was like,
oh, yeah, no, he'sgot an advantage because he knows all those
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players more intimately. So I don'tknow, I'm still I'm still mister fucking
Picks, but I would be moreinterested to see what he would want to
do since he is the subject expertin college basketball players. So if you're
gonna keep the seventeen pick, it'sgot to be for like a twenty two
to twenty three year old. Itcan't be for no nineteen year olds,
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No eighteen like, it's got tobe for a guy that's in his early
twenties that can that can at leastplay five minutes, you know, if
somebody's injured can step in. Itcan't be a development project, man,
not not with this current roster.No. I mean they've already reserved their
development project for Bronnie at fifty five, which is like, hey, for
the record, I'm cool with it. I just you know, the more
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we talk about this out loud,like hey, the Lakers are probably gonna
go after Bronnie at fifty five ortrade up or buy into the second round
higher up to draft him, it'slike great, Now you got all these
other teams just hearing your master playing, and yes, why not waste even
though it wouldn't be a waste obviously, Bronnie's a very talented prospect. But
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why wouldn't they just use it justto stash Bronnie away develop him on her
own. And then why wouldn't Oksebuy into the second round and go and
get Brownie? Right though, LikeI think it would be amazing if we
get a dad Hurly Lakers use thatseventeen pick to get a win now player
a piece. You go and getBronnie however you can in the second round.
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And now, look, Brownie,you got one of the best college
developmental coaches period. Let's see whatthis does. That would be perfect case
scenario right now. You know how, I know that life ain't perfect,
So we'll keep We'll keep the mainthing, the main thing back the day
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breaks, truck up to this man'shouse and get this job done. Get
this done before the week and bySunday. I need an announcement before game
three. We need an announcement.We need an announcement. Brother, Let's
make it happen. Well, I'msorry, that's that's what I'm thinking.
Give it the date by Sunday,get it done, get her done.
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All right, We gonna get upout of here, though, Alex,
you got work. I got work. We just it's just I don't know.
I haven't even had the morning coffee. I'm just still drinking the morning
water right now. And Laka's Nationgot us ready to go top of the
top, so exciting stuff. We'llbe monitoring the DAN and early situation closely.
Try to get this podcast out assoon as possible because the announcement could
technically be made at a time.So we appreciate y'all rocking with us on
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You know, it's what nine ohseven Central time, it is ten
o seven East Coast time. It'sseven oh seven West Coast time. And
it looks like we got some newsto talk about on the head coaching front
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and spoil alert, it ain't gotshit to do with JJ Reddick. Dan
Hurley has emerged as the lakers numberone target main objective for hiring as head
coach. We got to get intoit, Alex. He hit me up
in the DMS. He's like,bro, we got to talk about this,
right. I was like, yeah, you're right. Drop the kid,
(00:41):
let me spend the block back homeand let's hop out. Bro.
So Alex, thank you for initiatingthis. Man. It's it's a hell
of a morning. It's a hellof a morning in Lakerland, is it
not? No? I mean Iwould, I would, I would take
you off the record, man.Like before we started setting in the kitchen,
my son is in his high chair, he's eating yogurt and berries.
(01:02):
My wife is like cleaning up thekitchen, and I'm sitting there and like
I just glance at Twitter and I'mlike, oh, this is going to
dominate the news today, and she'slike what happened? And I'm like,
the Lakers are looking at a differenthead coach or whatever. And so,
uh, we have not heard BobbyHurley's name or not, but not by
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Dan Hurley his name mentioned at allthis entire time, Like this whole this
whole year, where Darvin was likeon the hot seat, not once did
we hear anything about yukon Dan Hurley. Nothing. It's and even once they
let go of Darvin, it wasJJ Reddick And now all of a sudden
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this morning, woe, just likeDan Hurley's been the target this entire time.
And so if that's true, thenas I tweeted earlier, it makes
sense because Rob Palinka, whenever wethink Rob's going in one direction, it
seems like he's got something else upto sleeve, much like when he traded
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for D'Angelo Russo and vandoin those guys, we thought he was looking at completely
different players. So this is true, and I know you've mentioned this.
I've mentioned this. If like theLakers need to act like the Lakers and
back up the Brinkstruck to get whoeverthat whoever they want. I know they
ran like a mom and pop shop, but they are indeed a fortune five
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hundred company. Like, let's let'suse your resources that you have. And
I've been a long advocate for goget Spoe and offer him thirty millions,
like do whatever you need to do. But obviously you can't do that.
So you look at the candidates whoare available. Dan Hurley has the most
oppressive resume, and I was readingthat he's turned down other college jobs.
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He's won two chips at Yukon,He's turned down other college jobs. He's
intrigued by the NBA. And ifyou're gonna make the jump from Yukon to
anywhere else, you don't go toCleveland, like like you don't go to
these other you don't go to Charlotte, you go to la you go to
the Lakers if you're gonna make thatjump, And they're gonna apparently back up
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the breaks truck and make him anoffer that it's gargantuan. I pray,
I pray that's the case. Itsounds like the WO is using words like
massive, massive, is not thatthat's a lot of zeros before des one
points that's what that means to me, So not to pocket watch the Lakers.
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I just we just pray, youknow, as lifelong Lakers fans,
that money don't become an issue withthis type of situation. And I think,
just like, it's so funny,man, that the world said in
this article, this is the twentiethyear anniversary of the Lakers trying to go
and get Coach K. Twenty yearsbro to the season where that whole saga
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an episode and then you know,if you are, you know, probably
above it age of twenty eight,you have some memory of this, that
that whole dilemma, right Coach Kand Kobe Lakers fans thought I was close
that was going down. That wouldhave been the craziest thing for us in
the midst of all of the Heycoaching turmoil after p Jacks left for the
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first time, yeah, for thefirst time, first time, and the
Lakers were trying to define the nextheir to the throne. And I had
mentioned it in a quick little reactionvideo on the Late Lake Shows Twitter account
that it took and I'm sure therewas some other stuff, but Coach K
said it was the letter from ayoung Duke fan that convinced him to stay
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with the franchise and finish his hiscareer as Duke's Hey coach. That can't
happen. That can't happen. I'msorry. In the wards of Michael Jordan,
fucked them kids, Fuck them allright. If it comes down the
letters, I'm writing a letter too, all right. If we need songs,
hell this ish track time. Ihave no problem, no problem dissing
an eight year old to twelve yearold or fourteen year old if they trying
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to come between Dan Hurley and theLos Angeles Lakers right now. So that
that's a warning every Billy, everyTimmy, every Grayson, every Chad,
every Brad, every Matthew, everyevery whatever, stay the fuck out of
grown folks business. We got shitto figure out right here. And I'm
dead as serious this is. Thisis probably one of the most exciting names
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that we have seen attached to theLakers. Hell Man, probably since p
Jacks came back for the second time. It's been it's either been rerun head
coaches that have been previously fired,non championship winning head coaches. You know,
Frank Vogel was highly regardless regarded decoratedhead coach all these years with the
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Pacers, so when he came overhe had a little bit of juice behind
him. But the Lakers have takena lot of chances on guys that just
really hadn't proved to do shit beforethen Byrons got not really had room to
do much. Luke Walker not reallyhad proved shit to do much. Darvin
Ham definitely hadn't proved it to domuch. Right, So this is not
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only the most highly decorated head coachthat the Lakers have been attached to in
years, this is a head coachby all intents and purposes, was not
available. That's what it gets meexcited, bro. And I'm sure other
teams may have kicked, you know, kicked the can, called Dan Early's
agent and asking he would he liketo come play for you know, coach
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the Orlando Magic, right, theUtah Jazz, whoever. But like you
said, that Laker phone call,that that whatever area code, right,
that la Aero code pop up onthe phone you you set up and you
see it a little bit, You'relike, huh, got a listen to
talk about this? Right? Andthen obviously the money portion on the end
it hopefully. Like we said atthe beginning that that that is no issue
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for us. One thing that isis dope to me about this, as
it's not like Dan Hurley is writingthe coattails of the glory days of his
Hey coaching achievements. He hit hisprime right now, right now today as
the back to back Hey coach championshipwinning head coach in the NC Double A
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men's basketball. You got that's thetop of the top, bro, And
you'll let me know. I don'twatch college as much. It seemed he
seemed pretty confident going into the tournamentthat his seam was the best team and
that they were going to win,and that kind of energy and his preparation
some people, when you are thatprepared, that confidence has no other choice
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but to shine through. So whatjust from what you know Dan Hurley yukon
days or any of his acumen thathe potentially bring it to the Lakers,
Alex, what are you most excitedabout if this were to happen. I
don't watch a whole lot of collegebasketball like I did when I was a
kid, but what I'll say isthat there's a lot of excitement around this,
and I had to ask people like, Okay, I know he won
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back to back chips, but like, why is he why is he good?
And I had people talking about hisplayer development, his offensive schemes,
and I went and watched a clipfrom him talking to JJ Reddick coincidentally,
and he talked about layering his offenseand having multiple actions out of formations,
like it looks like he knows whathe's doing. I mean, look,
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you went back to back championships.You know what you're talking about. Right.
The question is can his offense translateto the NBA, And Woj said,
multiple coaches have told him that itcan. And I saw Lebron's comment
about Dan Hurley's offense that he's excitedabout it, so I think that it
can translate. Mike, I waslooking at what he makes at UKHN.
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So he signed a six year,thirty two million dollar deal, so he
makes about five million a year,and if he leaves u Kon for or
another college, he has to payYukon back seven point five million. He
jumps to the NBA, he's gotto pay Yukon back one point eight seven
five million. Oh perfect, he'smaking five He's making five million a year
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and he's got to give them backalmost two million. The Lakers could easily
double his salary. I mean there'slike like, this's like if you're gonna
get him out, like give himten million a year. He's on a
six year deal. I'm tired ofus seeing new coaches every two years.
Give look, you know what,give him a ten year deal. If
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it doesn't work out, who careseat the money? But give him a
ten year deal, like double hissalary, and let's see where all of
this goes. Like but a lotof people seem to be excited. It's
funny. He was, you know, it was announced this morning, and
like all of a sudden, nobodycares about JJ Reddick anymore. And when
you stack him up against Reddick,Bret Jego, whoever else is out there,
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they're talking to Mike and Norri,they don't stack up many. They
just don't. And you're right interms of excitement. Like when Phil Jackson
left the Lakers. The first timewe brought in Rudy T. We've talked
about this before. Rudy T wasa two time, you know, a
two time championship coach, but thatdidn't work out. They tried to get
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coach k that didn't work out,and then they brought it. You know,
Byron Scott. He went to thefinals a couple of times with Jason
Kidd's nets. So Bybrant did havegood teams, but that didn't work out.
Vogel. Vogel won a chip withus. He had already been to
the Eastern Conference finals several times,but he was the Lakers third voice when
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they were even interviewing coaches back then, like there seems to be genuine excitement
around this, and I'll say this, man, I'll say this, I
swear to you. I thought,Okay, they brought in coach K as
a consultant, and the whole reasonfor that is Coach K is gonna point
them to in the direction of JJReddick. And here we are Coach K
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coach Bobby Hurley, who won twochips at Dude, and Bobby Hurley is
Dan Hurley's brother, and it's like, maybe this, maybe this really was
where like maybe they did not.My thinking is the Lakers had a direct
line to JJ Reddick through Lebron hada direct line to him, but I
don't know if anyone in the frontoffice had a direct line to Dan Hurley.
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And so to me, coach kprobably is that line to Dan Hurley,
and you know what, man,college coaches don't always work out in
NBA, but let's go for it. I don't want an assistant. I
don't want someone that's never coached.If you're going to bring in someone,
bring in the best head coach incollege. If you can't get the best
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person in the NBA, get thebest college coach, and let's go.
Thousand Lakers have been linked to previouscollege coaches in the past. Right,
there was little Kevin A. Leerumors when he came off the championship at
Yukon. Right, Obviously, coachcal has you know that he's his name
has always been connected with the franchise. Even you know our boy at Villanova,
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Jay Wright, when he was thereand he was at the top of
the tot, was like, oh, is he ever gonna make a jump?
And it's all all of those championshipsright coincided with eras of the Lakers
where it was downtime. So itwas like, hmmm, remember we can
cherry pick the top of the top. Over on the coaching side, since
it seems like the NBA circuit ofcoaches, either you're getting the reruns or
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the Lakers are missing on the upand coming. Hey, coaches, and
they're choosing the wrong ones to believeand invest in and give five year deals
to out side note shout out,Darvin Ham. Count that money for the
next three seasons. It must benot. I don't think there's a better,
a better job in sports than afired head coach with multiple years left
on his deal. Like Frank Vogelcan retire tomorrow in Night Gott and worry
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about shit. He has generational wealthjust off the places he's been fired from.
That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Theymight give me six months separate,
ye, right, I've been myjob seven year. They might give me
six months separate. But they gaveFranky Smokes to not coach a basketball team
no more. Brother, You don'twant to know what I'll do for that.
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think they're gonna go visit Dan earlyand it's beautiful residents wherever he is Genie
and Rob seems like they are leadingthe charge to bring him in. We
talk about who on the Lakers asfar as the superstars are involved in these
types of discussions. Is it Lebron, isn't Anthony Davis? Is it a
mixture of both, is it neitherone? We don't know. What we
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do know is Lebron James is afan of Dan Hurley and ironically so is
JJ Reddick. When they reacted tosome of Dan's Hurley's offensive coaching schemes and
his staff over at Yukon, Lebronhas tweeted out on their Mind the Game
podcast on the social media post talkingabout he's so damn good along with his
staff, super creative with their offense. Love it all right? I mean,
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if we could transfer that love andaffection to NBA games, I think
will already be in good shape.You move over to Anthony Davis. The
WOJE article talks about the Lakers havebeen committed to making all NBA ford Anthony
Davis significant part of the conversation mynext day coach, and we want to
make sure he's aligned with how anew coach plays to teaching him on offense,
defense, sources set. So,I mean we talked about James Brego
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and the eight connection the last partwe were together the Lakers. Obviously,
JJ Reddick is so funny. Ithought of the toy story meme of I
don't want to play with you anymore. That's how Lakers fans are treating AJ
Reddick, just dropping him off tothe side. Now that we got a
new shiny toy two infatuate over forthe next I don't know Finals week side
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note, man, this has tobe all attentional by the Lakers. Right
Boston, NBA Finals Game one Awoach, big woach. Hey, hey,
before you even get on the airthis morning, my brother, we
got some fun you go ahead,go ahead, deliver this to the people.
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And what's the conversation of today.It's going to be Dan Hurley in
the Los Angeles as the top headcoach in college basketball and the largest and
biggest NBA franchise, possibly marrying asone. Oh yeah, there's Game one
of the NBA Finals tonight as well. It's crazy and I mean you even
saw it the Kyrie interview at theNBA Finals, right the media availability number
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one first question they asked, brother, Hey, yeah, so did you
see Lebron's comments and how he missesyou? Why don't you tell us a
little bit about that. It's sonasty, but this is this is our
world. Sorry about everybody else,but this is the world we get to
enjoy in basket never adult moment inLakerland. Brother, Alex what what happened?
Well? What happened with your boyShams? What's going on here?
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Bro? I'm looking at this.Hang on, let me, I'll do
some picture in picture. I wastesting it out to make sure that it
worked earlier. But let's just let'sjust take a look at what we have
here. I knew something was upyesterday. I promise you I knew someone
was up yesterday. I tweeted out. I was like, hey, anybody
going like spinning the block on thatShams article in how the words are even
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put together? Lakers zeroing in onJJ Redick as front runner to be next
coach, sources Bro. The titleright there tells you we kind of guess
it, or we think we know, but we're still not sure that even
JJ is number one slash they're goingto hire him. The floor is yours,
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Alexoyd? What are we going on? Who can we trust in the
media these days, and we can'ttrust shops at the athletic. I mean,
the crazy part about this is likeJJ Reddick said this would be addressed
after the finals. So like,look, either yeah, it's like look,
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either Sham's straight up lied or hissources fed him some you know,
incredible information. I don't know,man, Like it's a bad look.
Like, look, it's one thingto say the Lakers are talking JJ Reddick,
he's one of the front runners whatever. Right, once you use language
like zeroing in, like you makeit sound like this is inevitable, right,
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And so for this to have droppedyesterday and then four am Eastern today,
Wode says, no, no,no, no, no. The
entire time, Dan Hurley has beenwho they want it some like it don't
look good for for Sean, LikeI'm I'm on Twitter now and like he's
getting roasted over that. So Idon't know, I like, it's not
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a good look. It's certainly nota good look for the athletic. So
I don't know, Like you're inthe room, like these guys are in
the rumor business, so obviously thatall these things are just rumors, even
the woad stuff nothing is that theink has not dried, so we don't
know Hurley's even gonna be the coach, but zeroing in on JJ Reddick and
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then ten hours later, the entiretime Hurley has been the guy like it's
it's so I said to you before, man like this is so Rob Plenka
for him to have someone else inmind and the media to get it completely
wrong. And to your point,I wouldn't be surprised if this leaked on
purpose because Boston's in the finals,I mean the Lakers at Boston. We
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don't like Boston at all us asfans. And whether it's the Lebron comments
about Kyrie and Kyrie answering Lebron stuffovershadowing some of the finals, or Kyrie's
love and affection for Kobe and himtalking about that as he enters this most
recent finals, and now the DanHurley stuff, or even JJ Reddick he's
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calling like calling the finals. He'sthe Lakers. For a team that didn't
make it out the first round,they sure are getting a lot of attention
this finals run. Yeah, yeah, we like that. We like the
moment. We like still in themoment, man spotlight stillers, that's what
the franchise does. If it's notus, it's gonna be talking about us
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one way or another. We leavethem with some, We leave them with
some, and it might be thetop head coach uh in college basketball.
This is all exciting stuff. Andyeah, I saw on Twitter too,
they're talking about they used Meet theGrams to talk to shams talking about you
lied, you lied about JJ ready, you lied about the front Runner and
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zero in it. I'm like,oh my god, it is It's not
even ten am, folks, gottthis is. This is that unfiltered,
non caffeinated hate. I'm here forit. I'm here for it. You'll
be all right, brother, butuh not a good look. I guess
we have to acknowledge that. Welljust you know, still still still kind
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of up there looking down at thetop of the mountain peak. So Chris
Haynes, we won't we won't shoutyou out, bro, But you used
part of that clip too. Theyall indications, all signed point two.
It's all good, it's all good. You're you're your underlying point though,
Alex, let's let's let's bring itto the light Rob in the front office.
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If this is going to be DanHurley as head coach. They did
a smoke screen master class. Smokescreen master Class. This is following up
on the transactions that you know,not this previous season, but the del
trade deadline stuff that no one sawcoming to your point. This is now,
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you know, starting to piece together, getting back towards moving in silence
behind the scenes and maybe letting someof the other media, members of the
media get fed some of the someof the leaks that we're okay with our
real moves. We're keeping under theright breast pocket and we're gonna keep We're
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gonna move like that. And thenhey, sometimes you gotta pop out and
show nicks. And I think Ithink dropping this on finals day is a
pop out by robbing company. Man. So I don't know, I don't
care what the number is. Yousaid a ten year deal. I think
I'm cool with the five year dealfor sure. I think anything under four
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gets a little weird, Like,why you just signed this man from a
whole other industry. Let's give himsome security. I don't think he jumps
for anything less than five years.I agree, it has to be.
It has to be moving. Also, you're moving across the country. Man,
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there's a whole lot going down.Here's my question before we get up
out of here, Lakers have hadplayed both sides of the fence of we're
gonna let the head coach pick hishis coaching staff. Yeah, we're kind
of gonna tell him who's gonna beon his coaching staff. Early's a well
decorated college coach with some history withhim and his staff. How do you
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see that piece playing out. Arethe Lakers gonna let this man do his
thing and make his coaching staff inhis image, or do you see them
doing the most like they did withTylu and start saying, nah, we
need you to put these pieces together, you know what. Like they basically
told Vogel who had to be onhis staff and it was a really good
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staff. They let Darvin pick hisstaff and it wasn't a good staff.
Hurley's too decorated to tell him whoto put on the team on his staff.
But what I'll say is that ifhe's going to bring his yukon staff,
you got to put an NBA,like a former NBA head coach or
somebody on that staff too, Likeyou have to who that is I don't
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know, but they got to puta former head coach on that staff with
him. But you can't. Idon't think you can tell him dump your
staff and pick all these other guys. You can't tell him you have to
hire Rondo, or you have tobring in JJ Redick, or you have
to bring in Jared. You can'tsay that. Now. It wouldn't surprise
me if Reddick ends up on thestaff. See a path there, whether
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or not, I don't know,but I can see a path. But
yeah, you can't tell him toput no like here. Ultimately, here's
the thing, man, he's atYukon. They could vary well three P
like they could very well three P. And so if he's gonna jump,
it's gotta be like it's got tobe his way or else why leave Yukon
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at all? Like why come herebe told what to do? If fizzielle
in two years and you just gaveup the Yukon coaching job, like so
they gotta it's gotta be his way. I don't know. They get weird
with these coaching staffs man, LikeI don't understand it. Like Vogel was
an experienced coach and you pick hisstaff, and Darvin was an inexperienced coach
coach and let him pick his ownstaff. He let Luke pick his own
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staff, Like, just let himbring his guys. See if you can
get a former head coach on theteam with them, NBA head coach and
let these guys rock. I mean, and my point, I assume this
deal has if it happens, hasgot to happen quickly because recruits at recruits
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who have signed on to go toYukon have thirty days to transfer, and
then you've got the NBA Draft comingup. Also, so like if you're
gonna make him the coach and he'sgot to come to your point across the
country, like you got to dothis now, yeah tomorrow, Yeah,
like that shit's got to yep,we gotta start. But that's a great
point, bro, Like, yeah, there are some pretty key dates on
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the horizon, not even to mentionfree agency, right, So oh man,
it does make me think about seventeen. Now, would Hurly want to
keep seventeen as a as a collegecoach? You know? Like when the
hardball came from and went from Michiganto the Chargers, it was like,
oh, yeah, no, he'sgot an advantage because he knows all those
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players more intimately. So I don'tknow, I'm still I'm still mister fucking
Picks, but I would be moreinterested to see what he would want to
do since he is the subject expertin college basketball players. So if you're
gonna keep the seventeen pick, it'sgot to be for like a twenty two
to twenty three year old. Itcan't be for no nineteen year olds,
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No eighteen like, it's got tobe for a guy that's in his early
twenties that can that can at leastplay five minutes, you know, if
somebody's injured can step in. Itcan't be a development project, man,
not not with this current roster.No. I mean they've already reserved their
development project for Bronnie at fifty five, which is like, hey, for
the record, I'm cool with it. I just you know, the more
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we talk about this out loud,like hey, the Lakers are probably gonna
go after Bronnie at fifty five ortrade up or buy into the second round
higher up to draft him, it'slike great, Now you got all these
other teams just hearing your master playing, and yes, why not waste even
though it wouldn't be a waste obviously, Bronnie's a very talented prospect. But
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why wouldn't they just use it justto stash Bronnie away develop him on her
own. And then why wouldn't Oksebuy into the second round and go and
get Brownie? Right though, LikeI think it would be amazing if we
get a dad Hurly Lakers use thatseventeen pick to get a win now player
a piece. You go and getBronnie however you can in the second round.
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And now, look, Brownie,you got one of the best college
developmental coaches period. Let's see whatthis does. That would be perfect case
scenario right now. You know how, I know that life ain't perfect,
So we'll keep We'll keep the mainthing, the main thing back the day
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breaks, truck up to this man'shouse and get this job done. Get
this done before the week and bySunday. I need an announcement before game
three. We need an announcement.We need an announcement. Brother, Let's
make it happen. Well, I'msorry, that's that's what I'm thinking.
Give it the date by Sunday,get it done, get her done.
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All right, We gonna get upout of here, though, Alex,
you got work. I got work. We just it's just I don't know.
I haven't even had the morning coffee. I'm just still drinking the morning
water right now. And Laka's Nationgot us ready to go top of the
top, so exciting stuff. We'llbe monitoring the DAN and early situation closely.
Try to get this podcast out assoon as possible because the announcement could
technically be made at a time.So we appreciate y'all rocking with us on
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