June 21, 2024 • 53 mins
In this episode of the Late Night Lake Show, Ricky and Alex react to the Lakers hiring J.J. Redick as their new head coach. We discuss our immediate reactions and key questions: How will he feature Anthony Davis and LeBron James? Why do the Lakers have different expectations for J.J. after just hiring a rookie head coach in Darvin Ham? We also explore potential coaching staff options and whether the Lakers can compete now while building for the future. Finally, we look at player options for the upcoming season, through free agency or trades, and Ricky reacts to the Alex Caruso for Josh Giddey trade rumors. Additionally, we touch on the Boston Celtics winning an NBA championship and what it means for humanity.
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- Celtics Championship Reaction
- Immediate Questions on J.J. Redick Hire
- Featuring AD and LeBron
- Expectations for J.J. Redick vs. Darvin Ham
- Potential Coaching Staff
- Competing Now vs. Building for the Future
- Roster Options: Free Agency and Trades
- Ricky Reacts to Caruso for Giddey Trade
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(00:00):
Hey, what's going on, y'all? Welcome to a new episode the Late
Night Lakes Show podcast powered by nineteenMedia Group. It is your hoster Ricky
and Alex. We are joining youguys on Friday, June the twenty first
year of our Lord, twenty twentyfour, and it is It's good and
bad news we got for everybody.The good news the Lakers have a new
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head coach. The bad news isthe Devil won the NBA Finals, so
we have to now live with Luciferwalking the earth for the next three hundred
and sixty five days. As theNBA champion, Boston Celtics now move in
front of the Los Angeles Lakers andall time championships eighteen to seventeen. Jalen
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Brown is nonfinals MVP. Wow doyou feel about that? Shout out?
Jaalen Brown? No shay to there, but you know stats look interesting,
so yeah, you know, BostonCeltics are NBA chance. But the Lakers
hired JJ Redick as a coach,so you know life's all about bounce,
I guess. But we'll get intoall of that. We'll get into We
haven't talked to you guys since misterwhat's his name. I've got his name
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already. Mister Daniel Hurley turned downon the Lakers job, and him and
WOJ conducted a successful coup of stealingthe attention and all the limelight away from
Shams and the JJ Reddick rumors.So we're gonna get into that shit too.
They're not off the hook, Soyou're not already. Make sure you
found the podcast wherever you get yourhashtag good content, Alex, my brother
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who man talk about just, youknow, worst case scenario for an ending
of an ANBA finals. Not onlydid the Boston Celtics win, this ship
wasn't even entertaining. Bro. Didyou how many games did you watch?
I caught parts of two games,but I'm not here to add to Celtics
ratings. What'd you make of thefinals? Yeah? I didn't even watch.
I mean I saw some highlights.I mean it was a lackluster finals.
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I mean they were clearly the betterteam going in than Dallas. I
thought Dallas had a puncher's chance ifLuca did Luca thing, but he did
not. So now Celtics have eighteenrings, one more than us. And
you know what, man, Imean, the Celtics suck whatever I mean,
it's they're not We were just talkinglike they're a storied franchise. I'm
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not gonna hate on them from thatperspective, but when the Lakers win,
the whole world celebrates. You know. I know they're haters, teams,
people that don't like the Lakers,but like, generally speaking, the Lakers
are such a massive franchise that theywere fans around the world. With the
Celtics winning, it just feels likeit's Boston and nobody else really cares.
I'm not getting any attention. AndI do want to say this, Luca
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ain't look man like. Luca isan amazing player, but the James Hardened
comparisons are one accurate until he provesotherwise. There's no difference except he's four
inches taller and he's white. Likethey they play the exact you know,
Harden at his peak played the exactsame way Luca does and the same stuff.
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Can't win that way. So whateverCeltics won, whatever, a nice
we got in a little bit ofLuca Luca combo. I like that.
Yeah, I almost forgot that.That was the topic of conversation. The
finals wrapped up, probably you know, close to a week ago now,
and we are officially in the NBAoff season, which is exciting. Some
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trades are already happening with the withthe local Chicago Bulls. For me,
we'll get into that, but Imean it, this just goes back to
that stupid narrative talking about how HardenHarden was a better player at his peak
than Kobe was. And I justlaugh at folks, man, I laugh
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at folks who over index these what'sthe nice term these days, heliocentric superstars
that put up all the shots right, and then when it's playoff time and
defenses can lock in on them,they're kind of useless. And not to
say Luca is useless at all.He still led his team in scoring.
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But when the ball's out of yourhands and you not doing much else on
the court on offense, and thenyou go over on the defense and they
got highlight reels of you just beinga stoop yep, it looks a little
funny in the light when folks talkabout your greatness. Right, Luca's gonna
Luca will be a Hall of Famer, I have no doubt about that.
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James Ardens will be a Hall ofFamer. I have no doubt about that,
right, Like shit, Benny theBull will probably be a Hall of
Famer the NBA, you know,let you know, basketball Hall of Fame
is so inclusive. So I justit's just hard for me to put these
guys on pedestals when they are absenteeson the defensive end and on offense.
It almost feels like Luca's not aspot up shooter, right, Like he
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needs the ball in his hand.And if you already got a guy now,
Kyrie who needs the ball in hishands too, this is what you
get to get. This also isthe Denver Nuggets fault for not taking care
of business, because that would havebeen a much more entertaining NBA Finals if
it was Nuggets and Celtics, Sothe Wolves would have been more entertaining.
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I would have loved to see theWolves against Celtics. Like shit, but
lucas too good to be like aone sided player. He's too good not
to be able to play off ball. He's too good not to at least
he's six' nine not to atleast be able to do something defensively,
right, Like, so, yeah, he'll be a Hall of Famer,
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like you said so, James,But like there's the Hall of Fame,
and then there's the back room inthe Hall of Fame where like Mike and
them are at Magic Corinth, likeKobe Chack. They ain't getting in that
room. They not getting in thatroom, not playing like this. Nope,
nope, no, nope. Soyou know, we're on to the
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offseason. Hopefully the Lakers have madesome changes that are going to put them
in a better position. I sawa statman the Lakers in the last ten
seasons have been a top six seedonce. Did I have that correct?
It's it's something ridiculous like that,bro. That might be right, because
I mean the year we won thechampionship the number one seed in the West,
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and then the follow up year Ithink number yeah, some of that
year, yep, and then wewere playing team since then and before then
we were dog shit, So thatmight be right. Dog So you know,
not to jump ahead, but youknow, we gotta we gotta at
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least speak on this whole Dan Hurley, Adrian wo Janowski, whatever the fuck
you want to call this long storyshort, Lakers had a fever dream of
an idea to meet with Dan Hurleyand pursue him all the way up to
giving him a contract to the tuneof seventy plus million dollars to come over
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and coach Los Angeles Lakers. Itwould be double what he he was being
paid at the Universe at Yukon.And then Hurley. He took the flight,
took the took the private jet outhim and his wife, spent some
time with the Lakers, went homeand he said, you know what,
I'm staying like Leonardo dicap here onWolf of Wall Street. So I'm not
going. I'm not leaving. Soyou know, that was a whole bunch
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of time of nothing. I don'tknow, Alex. Everyone is a think
in Unison thinking that this was ajust a nice play by Woje and Dan
Hurley to you know, get theyget their name out there, get the
name up. WoDES wrote the bookon Dan Hurley. Literally, man,
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you know, another head coach,another college coach uses the Lakers name to
achieve something. What your what's yourthoughts on the Dan Hurley pursuit. I
mean, look, man, whenwhen the news came out of nowhere,
Wolde was like, it's going tobe a massive offer. What he's that
Lakers want? And the framing ofit led me to believe that the Lakers
would offer somewhere around one hundred million, maybe eight years. One hundred million.
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They offered six at seventy That stillwould have made him a top six
or seven highest paid head coach.But what was what was most you know,
startling to me, He flies out, Lakers make their offer six and
seventy and if he wants a hundredmillion or once more years. There didn't
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seem to be in any negotiation.He didn't counter his agent didn't counteroffer,
which you and I have been incorporate America for a long time. You
always counteroffer. I mean, evenif even if you think they're going to
say no, you lay it outthere and so right, the fact that
he didn't tells me that he nevertook the Lakers seriously, and he used
it to probably milk Yukon out ofmore money. There was already a there
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was already an extension on the table. He had not signed it. I
would imagine they're going to up thatand at some point we'll get the numbers
on the Yukon extension. But theyabsolutely used the Lakers. I do think
that if the Lakers offered him onehundred million or eight years or whatever.
He probably says yes because it's justtoo much money to say no to.
And for the people who think thatthat genie is cheap, there's no amount.
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If the Lakers really wanted to givehim a hundred million or whatever,
Yukon cannot compete. I don't carewho their boosters are. Colleges, no
matter how big they are, andpro teams are two different animals, especially
when it's a basketball college and there'sno football revenue. There's no way they
could have competed if the money.I mean so. But they made their
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offer, he went to a BillyJoel concert and he then said no.
And ever since then he and hiswife have been on a press tour.
I've never seen anything like it.Man. They have gotten more attention in
the last week than they did forthe two championships that he won at Yukon.
It's insane. What's there to talkto the wife about? What's going
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on? Why do I need toknow that? She cried when she heard
that the Akers wanted to talk toy'all. What are you doing? One
with you? One hundred percent?Like I think Hurley himself is doing too
much. But like if I turndown a job My wife doesn't have anything
to say to you about me turningdown a job. If she turns down
a job, What I got tosay about that? Nothing Like we're like,
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you're not she's not on his coachingstaff, like I don't. They
are milking this, absolutely gonna getmore money out of Yukon. And I
do think that he makes the jumpat some point, but let's just call
it what it is. He wouldprefer to be a big fish in a
small pond and a small small fishin a big pond. That's it.
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This coach guy, they they youknow, started flowing the stuff around.
You know, if the nixt jobbecomes available, he could just jump and
go do that. Like John Timbodeauis a fucking fantastic coach. What he
did? What are y'all doing?What are y'all talking about over there?
Man? It's good. We getit. We understand the story, we
understand the logic. You might foolthe sixteen seventeen eighteen year olds, the
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youngins, right, you might foolthe casual folks who just think that this
was the Lakers fumbling over their ownselves more incompetence by then. But I'm
in the camp that them, folks. Wasn't really trying to come over.
Bro, They wasn't really trying tocome over. They saw the time it
was taking for the Lakers to hirea head coach. They say, you
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know what, this deal ain't wrappedup. Yeah, let's go have a
conversation. Let's take a private flightto Los Angeles for twenty four hours,
get whined and dined by the biggestfranchise in basketball, and let's go home
to a Billy Joe concert. Don'tthey sound like a great weekend spootie.
Yeah? Amen, and listen.I saw somebody found some tweets of his
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look like appearing that he's a Celticsfan or something like that, and it's
like, doubt it. I wouldyou're Northeastern guy Celtics. During the finals,
he played the Lakers like he whatever, man, whatever he could have
he could have taken that. Hecould have taken that seventy million even if
it didn't work out, collected guaranteedmoney, and went right back to college
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in another top job or went toanother protein like That's the other thing.
Probably the final point in this.He technically had nothing like. Yes,
he uprooted his family, moved acrossthe country now is going to be under
the microscope distance, and that howold is Dan here? He's still relatively
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a young guy, right if hewould be the top coach at whatever school
he goes back to. I understandyour plant your roots. It's hard,
you know. The wife said thatanytime she looked at Genie Bus's face,
all she saw was her babies atback at Yukon and all this other dumb
like whatever. He I don't wantto call it. Um. That's how
you feel. That's how you feel. You got a connection to these young
kids that come in and out.It almost gives me like the uh the
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wife of a college football head coachvibes, right, You see, like
some of those sec wives that theygiving kisses to all the players as they
come out of the locker room orthey in the white house hitting the dance
moves with the team. They feellike they have a really like mother son
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connection as the wife of the headcoach. And again, big fish,
small pond, however you want to, you know, think about this.
There's another side to it too thatwe ain't got to get into. But
you know, freagure, this thing'snot God anyways. Some folks really love
the position that they're in, andyes, going to be the head coach
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of the Los Angeles Lakers would makeDan Hurley one of the most famous people
in sports. His wife wouldn't.There's nothing that comes without with the wife.
I mean, obviously all the perksare living in Los Angeles and it'd
be an amazing life. But shewants to be important. I get it.
I get it. A man,you look at her until she wants
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to be important, oh, nodoubt. I mean, look, folks
are not talking about race all thetime. On my account, I got
Plantation vibes. Man like Harley.He could talk to college kids anyway that
he wants. You ain't doing thatto even the lowest NBA player because they're
grown men. And his wife talkingabout their her babies. It reminded me
of like the plantation wife, likethe owners owner's wife, like loving the
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help as long as the help isactually the help, and if they're not
the help, they get rid ofthem, Like what are we doing here?
Man? Like all of it isridiculous. So they played the Lakers
Wolves. Of course Wolves has ahand and he always has a hand in
some of this nonsense. It's justI don't know. Man, just such
a debacle. And I'm not evenblaming the Lakers. I do think they
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should all offered more. But Iget there. I get if they thought,
well, this is what we're gonnaoffer. It's more money than he's
making. It makes him a topNBA paid coach and he's got no NBA
experience like they they I think theyplayed it right. They probably assume they'd
be a counter like this is counter. They said, no, they just
been checked it. You have aset up a trade in two k or
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Madden and the other team don't evencount. They just say, no,
no, we just not gonna dothis, all right, Oh good,
best of luck, Dan Hurley.Even if they had offered him a hundred
million, I would have came backand said, hey can I get one
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All right, that was fun,all right, Late Night Show,
Ricky and Alex all right, manin triumphantly not really surprising news. JJ
Redick is the Lakers head coach,signing a four year deal. First reported
by Adrian ward Janowski, then followedup by Shams. I do want to
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take this time to give Schamps hisflowers, his victory lap. He was
pretty consistent the whole time, right, and he has been doubling down and
kind of kicking dirt on Woja's graveabout how it's always been JJ leading the
pack because of the multiple meetings thathim and Pelinka have taken all the way
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going back to their meetings in Chicagoat the Combine and him finally having that
formal interview with Jeanie and the frontoffice. Here we go. The JJ
Redick era has commenced. The thirtynine year old will be taking over,
and I think the status if I'mwrong, it was the twenty ninth Lakers
head coach of franchise history. Man, Here we go, Alex first thoughts
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when you saw the news JJ Reddicktaking over from podcast d Let me not
say that, because he's way morethan podcasts. From an NBA lifer to
commentator to successful podcast hosts to mediapersonality to Los Angeles Lakers head coach.
What a world he has lived?Your thoughts, hey man, this shit
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was like when the news broke.It was like a bottle rocket instead of
like fireworks. It was just hisname had been been mentioned with the Lakers
for so long. It was justlike all right, and you know other
names like like Barrego. Like thisparticular coaching search, there were no like
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superstar coaches to go after. Hurleyobviously came out of nowhere, and I
like the Lakers looking at the collegeranks, but there were no hotshot assistants.
The Micah Nori stuff went away reallyquick. We'll hear anybody else.
Nope. So they they think thatReddick can be a good coach. Let
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me say this because people say thatI'm a hater. I don't care who
the Lakers could hire, like CookieMonster. I want him to do well,
like I want the Lakers head coachto do well. What I am
critical of is hiring a first timehead coach with literally no had no coaching
experience. He played fifteen years inthe league. Okay, cool, he's
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a podcaster, Okay cool, he'sa TV analyst, argues with Stephen A.
Smith from time to time. Okaycool, but like he only coached
his kids' AAU team, Like listen, man, only in America can a
dude have no experience at doing hisjob and get the highest job in a
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particular like company. Like, Imean, we see it, saw this
with the White House a handful ofyears ago. You know, like this
is insane, Like, so canhe can he be good? Yeah?
From all accounts, he knows basketball, so the x's and o's cool.
They say he's dedicated. Cool.Can he lead grown men? I don't.
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We don't know. Can he handlethe LA spotlight? We don't know.
He smiles, he's got nice hair, but like, lose three games
in a row and we're gonna seehow much of that shine comes off.
So they're comparing him to pat Riley. God, that's setting him up fa
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filure by even which hat's name,Like the circumstances of Pat everything was so
different. But I hope he doeswell. Man, I'm just they floated
his coaching staff, and I hopefullywant to talk about some of the names,
but like it sounds like they're gonnatry and put together a good coaching
staff. Yeah, but he's arookie head coach. Man, we just
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had a rookie head coach. Yes, Lebron. Lebron's a year older.
Yeah, like Lebron's a year older, a d is a year older.
We don't know what they're gonna doon the draft night, So they're gonna
keep the pick, trade the pick, like we don't know what's gonna go
on. Like I don't know,man, Like I'm sorry, maybe I'm
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a hater, but I saw thiswith Steve Nash. I saw this with
Derek Fisher. I saw this withJason Kidd. Like it took Kid years
to actually become a good head coach. His go around in Brooklyn was terrible.
Like Nash was really really bad,like Fish really bad. Like what
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are we doing here? And Idon't want to hear the Steve curR shit
because at least Steve Kerr was inthe front office before he became my head
coach. He at least was onan NBA team managing something. So and
curs once in a lifetime, Oncein a lifetime. So maybe I am
a hater man, what say you? Yeah, I mean, I don't
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know. It's it's a mixed bag. Before Jason Kidd, you had Mark
Jackson for the Warriors. He wasputting together a decent little foundation of the
team. Oh he brought religion intothe workplace. And then I think it
started to say for a little bit, and quite as it's kep it was
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Mark Jackson's Like Steve won with MarkJackson's team. Like there's a lot of
things that led to that Steph Curryhaving that underwhelming contract because of his ankle
issues and him all of a suddenbecoming one of the greatest players of all
time that no one thought, Like, no one thought that was gonna happen.
Reddick is He's not inheriting a teamwhere the superstars are on the way
up the eighties plateauing and Lebron's gonnacome down at some point, so different
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circumstances. But my bad man,go ahead, no no, no,
no, right, I mean athousand percent. And it's funny you brought
up that the Lakers just hired arookie head coach in Darvin Ham, and
he had some assistant coaching experience,but it almost felt like the Lakers hired
Darvin Ham. Well, we knowwhy the Lakers hired Darvin Ham. It
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was to make the rush shit workwith all the superstars and all the grown
ass man. They liked that DarvinHam was a quote unquote leader of men.
Maybe because he was six seven,was a big guy and had a
beer belly and was bigger than alot of people and was the same size
as the bron I don't know,maybe that's what they thought by leader of
men, they can handle all thosedynamic personalities in the locker room with rust
still there. This feels different inthe sense that I don't think, I
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don't I don't know. Am Iwrong for thinking that, as the Lakers
say, they want a head coachthat is gonna be here to build for
the future but also help maximize thesuperstars of today? Am I wrong for
thinking you can't do both? Like, I don't think that's possible. And
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there's were bridging eras in fucking basketball. These planes go up, they go,
they burn beautifully, they come down, and you just pray that it's
a soft landing. Right The greatestsoft landing was that the Bulls ninety eight
season, right, and that stillwas a shit show as we saw.
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Like, I don't know, Ithink you're kind of just I think that's
a little bit of gamesmanship to thefans into everybody else saying no, we're
still gonna compete today and also buildto the future. I don't, I
don't, I don't believe that tobe true. I think the JJ Riddick
high was eyes towards the future.Like they talk about maximizing this era,
this era of Lakers basketball, GodWilling at the most has two years left
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this season and next season, anddepending on how this season goes, and
let's you know, not to kickthe obvious down the road, Lebron James.
This is all an assumption that LebronJames opts out signs a two or
three year extension and you know oneprobably whatever that last year of that extension
is probably the farewell tour. Iffolks are talking about we just want to
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head coach to outlive the additional contract, Oh, Lebron will be here after
that. Right. If we're sittinghere and we want to do both,
it don't take much. You're obviouslygot JJ Reddick here to start planning for
the Max Christie's, the Jalen Hoods, Shafinos, the Really, let's bring
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a young guy in to lay somenew foundation, some new cement in these
cracks and let's start. No,it's not even laying it over the cracks.
They just laying new foundation in adifferent spot. And they're trying to
tell you're supposed to help the oldhouse. I don't think this for the
old house. This might be theappease the old house a little bit.
But if you haves Lebron's folks,he ain't had shit to do with this.
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AD was pretty heavily involved, whichI could get down with. I'm
here for that because AD will behere after Lebron god willing. So I
know that was a long winded answer, Bro, but hopefully y'all were rocking
with me there. As far asI don't see this being a two model
strategy going forward, the Lakers arebroad JJ Ridick here, so he could
be the head coach of the Lakersgoing into twenty twenty nine, and that
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is post Lebron James era, andI think we'll start seeing that as some
of the moves that they make butwe'll see. I don't know. Do
you think they'll go all in withthese draft picks. Do you think they'll
start making some smaller moves, maybetry to get a little younger. How
do you see this playing out asfar as roster construction goes, They better
go all in, Like, theybetter go all in because we're at a
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point where, like, if youlook, I do think that there are
some particular some potential prospects around theseventeen mark, and this rumor they may
try to jump up, but Ithink there's some guys that they could draft.
You know, if they do it, it needs to be someone over
the age of twenty one, Noeighteen and nineteen year olds. It needs
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to be a junior or a senior, like preferably a big man or a
wing, because the Lakers haven't drafteda big man or wing since I mean,
I don't even know since win.It's been years. So it's just
like they better go all in.And if you look at the Lakers handful
of recent coaches, if you're hiringReddick to lead the organization after Lebron,
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the truth is every coach you've hiredin recent years have made it two years
and so I'm looking at that trendis ready gonna make it like if they
if they fuck up this year andhave a bad next year, like is
he around? Probably not? Heprobably is not around. So to me,
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spend all the money you need onthe coaching staff. Give like listen,
listen, listen, listen. Ifyou have to go, get Phil
Jackson, pat Riley and Red auerbackout of the that's who should be on
his coaching staff, right, Like, give him the best minds available.
And I'm saying that, you know, facetiously, but like, but beyond
that, also give him a teamthat can actually play like we've got we
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have too many one sided players,man, I know you know that,
like d Loo is a one sidedguy. Austin really is a one sided
guy. So is Van do Sowas really like all these guys are one
sided. If if vandoh and anduh Ruy were like one player, great,
but like, give not only Reddick, but give Lebron and ad some
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consistent help I get, Give themsome bigs, give them some rebounders,
give them a guy that can hitan open shot, like go for it.
Forget about what we look like intwenty thirty. It's really about what
we look like now. So Ihope they go for it. We just
saw Crusoe got traded for giddy likeno draft compensation, like no swops like
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CRUs all All League defender, andsomehow he got moved for basically nothing.
If there are deals out there likethat, I know there's a Lakers tax,
but like, see what see whatDC wants to do about about Kuzma,
Call Portland about Jeremy Grant, likeget some size on the team,
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Like, man, I can't,I can't. Like So you think they're
putting pushing the chips forward, Yougotta, you gotta, even if that
means sacrificing some years of expedited rebuildingprocess by trading some of those draft picks.
You're in favor of maximizing this eraright now, and what would come
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with those trade packages. I'm withyou, I'm with you. I'm just
I'm worried that the Lakers are nowmoving into a direction where they're they're like,
hey, we will take Zachy orwhatever. The Purdue big man is
at seventeen, which is fine,we'll take him. We'll draft Bronnie.
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Maybe these guys can contribute. Maybehe could contribute. This season, Bronnie
will will not That's okay. We'rebuilding for the future, right And the
only other rumor this offseason or sincesince last year that has been as loud
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as the JJ Reddick is going tobe the head coach of the Lakers is
Ronnie James is going to be draftedby the Lakers. And I'm not against
it. I'm not against it atall. In fact, I'm here for
the nepotism, to be honest withyou. But I just feel like the
Lakers strategy and their decision making,it's like someone's written them down on flash
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cards and they're just when it's timefor them to read their lines, they're
up, so we'll see. I'malso worried that we go all in Lakers
start to make a run, weget to the playoffs, and all of
a sudden, it's like, ohyeah, we're quickly reminded that we have
a rookie head coach that's not usedto making some of these decisions. But
like you said, that's why yougot to have the best assistance around.
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Some of the names that Johann Buja, Sham Serani, and Sam Amick have
reported for JJ Reddick's coaching staff Thefirst one off the top is former thunder
head coach. Why am I missingmy man's name on here? Uh?
Dolts was mentioned Brooks? Yeah,Scott Brooks. Why I'm not not seeing
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this in this article anyways? Herewe got Yeah. So the names I
have been mentioned for the coaching staffyep, Scott Brooks, Sam Scott Brooks,
Sam Cassel, Jared Dudley, andformer Laker Rajon Rondo. All those
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guys except Rajon Rondo are currently employedon on other coaching staffs. Uh.
Sam Cassell just won a championship withthe Boston Celtics. He's due for an
upgraded position. I think that'd bea home run higher. Uh. Scott
Brooks has head coaching experience. Itsounds like he is the lead candidate to
be his lead assistant. Everybody's kindof like man on that. I'm like,
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where are your other genius options?Like, like we've been talking about,
this wasn't the strongest head coach coachingpool and if so, fact though,
that means it's probably not the strongestassistant head coaching pool that's available.
So Jared Dudley's there with the Mavericks. You know, Hey, Jared Dud's
a cool guy. I guess hedoesn't move me one way or another as
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far as an assistant coaching position,right, He just he just got to
downs right. And I remember twoyears ago how he was. He was
begging that the Lakers need to givehim a roster spot because they needed a
veteran mentor like him. And He'slike, all right, bro, it
sounds like you want to be anassistant coach. So I don't know any
of these names excite you anybody elsethat you think they should look at that
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James Barrego talk has significantly cool down. Sounds like he will end up either
in Detroit or in Cleveland. Hispreference, according to Dave Wokie, is
that Cleveland is his preferred destination becausethey have a win now roster. Thoughts
on the coaching staff that has beenreported for JJ Redick, I mean,
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I don't need a perfect former headcoach to be on the bench with him,
So Stouts, Stots or or BrooksI take. I mean, I
do want to have someone on thebench that's done the job. I'd like
both of them there, honestly.I mean, look when they brought in
Frank Vogel, who had plenty ofcoaching experience. They had what Jason Kidd,
Lionel Hollins, and there was somebodyelse on the I think there was
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a third one if I'm not mistaken, but they had those two that come
to mind, like give it.There's no there's no salary cap on coach's
roster, like spend the money toget both of them. And Rondo's cool,
Okay. I like Dudley also,he's a locker room guy, all
right, bring him in. Likethe one thing I'd like for them to
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do is bring in a defensive mindmind it assistant coach. I would like
that. I'd like cassell bring Casselle, like, give him everything that he
needs man to be successful. Becausethere's one thing that I know, like
you can't run a sprint and amarathon at the same time. And if
that's what they're gonna try and domarathon towards the future, sprint towards another
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title this year, Like it's notgoing to work. The Lakers need a
bright head coaching staff. They needyoung legs to get through a two games
because of our stars are older.Like, but I like the names I'm
hearing to me. Hopefully we findout within the next week. Who's going
to join his staff? But toyour point, like, who do people
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think he's supposed to go higher?I'd love to hear Mark Jackson's name,
you know, you you you reallywould love Mark Jackson to get another coaching
job assistant or or hey, coach, you're a big fan of it.
Yeah, I mean who did theClippers just hire? Was it Van Gundy?
Yeah? They just got like Ilike stuff like that. Like these
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guys, they they've got institutional knowledgeof the role. And Van Gundy made
not want to be at coach anymore. He might I don't know, but
like to me, you know thisin business, have as many smart people
in the room as you can andidentify the leader's weak points and build off
of that. We know the Lakers'front office has a lot of weak points.
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There's not a lot of institutional knowledge. They their front office should look
more like you know, Google,but yet somehow it looks more like your
local it shot And it's insane.So I would like the coaching, the
coaching roster to just be phenomenal,right, and if the Lakers do well,
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some of those guys will get secondchances anyway. Be Causelle probably will
finally get a real shot. Stottsmight get another job. Like just the
names are fine to me. Ithink they're they're fine coaches. Dann Wolkie
of the LA Time said the Lakerswant to have multiple former head coaches on
the coaching staff, and I thinkthat makes the sense in the world,
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right, everybody got a saft spotfor Dough, everybody wanton on the coaching
staff. You know that comes withsome considerations. We won't get into any
of the legal considerations around that.I will just point out the fact that
Rajon Rondo is not a watch Howshould I describe this. He's not a
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beta personality whatsoever. He is astrong will personality. That's how he had
all of his success. He wasa point guard, the general out there
on the court, was not afraidto butt heads with folks. I say
that to say as this would beone of Ragon Rondo, this would be
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his first NBA coaching opportunity and JJReddick's first NBA coaching opportunity. Do you
feel like there would lead to somepotential issues where you know, the players
could start gravitating towards coach Rondo.And it's not as much listening to coach
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Reddick, Like, I don't know, maybe that's just me, but I
could easily see a situation where,throughout some frustrations and the turbulence in a
rookie head coach season, the greatnessof Rajon Rondo starts eking out that you
know, I could probably do alittle bit better job than what we're seeing
right here. Look, I meanthere are people players reportedly that like Handy
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more than Darvin this past season.Like you know, coach, players always
gonna have their favorite coaches. Sometimesit's not the head coach. Most of
the time it's not the head coach. It's usually somebody else. The head
coach has a huge job, haspulled in a lot of different directions,
they end up spending more time withthe assistant coaches. I'm not so concerned
with the players, because I liketo think that everybody on the team as
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an adult. But what I cansee is, again, if Reddick stumbles
and Rondo's on the team, howlong before the fan base starts getting really
loud about hiring Rondo. There arepeople that wanted him to be interviewed hired
now, so you do have that. I don't know if Rondo's personality will
jail with JJ. It's I don'tthat's between two grown men. I assume
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that they'll figure it out if Reddickwants to hire him. But I don't
know, man, it's just like, give me the two former head coaches.
I love it, and then Idon't know. I know Rondo would
be an assistant, but like,is he he's not the shooting coach,
Like, like what is it?Like what's his job as an assistant?
Like Phil Handy was a skills guy, Like what would Rondo actually be doing?
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What would Jared Dudley actually be doingother than just being locker room guys
now on the bench. I reallydon't know. Kobe love Rondo because Rondo
was an asshole. But you knowwhat, sometimes when you're the guy in
charge, you don't feel like hearingnothing from no asshole on your team.
So I don't know how any ofthis works. I can only hope for
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the best, man, like Ican only hope for the best. I
was just asking. I was justasking, just a consideration, something to
think about, you know, aswe try playing. Let's build an assistant
coaching staff for what feels like thefourth time in the past six seven years.
Bro, You know what, I'mkind of sick of this being a
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department that we have to talk about. Like, I don't know, maybe
we were just spoiled thinking back thatwe had p Jacks, right, he
had us for a two different times, but it felt like one complete stretch
when you look back on that eraof your life and now here we are
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just spinning the wheel and see whatwe get. You know what's funny about
that? Like you think about it, between West and Phil's first stint,
it was the same thing. Imean, we had a lot of guys
come and go. We had DaleHarris that could not get checking Kobe over
the hump. Incomes Phil, threerings, four finals, Phil walks out
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the door again, coaching carousel.Two years later Phil comes back, they
get pal, Lakers win again.Phil leaves, they flirt were bringing him
back for a third time. Theypicked uh D'Antoni and ever since then again
this carousel. So it feels likeit's either either the Lakers hire hall of
fame, like they get their Hallof Fame coach, or they get a
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bunch of nobodies. There's no inbetween. There's no in between. Well,
Frankie Smokes has entered the chat memy fault. You are right about
me. I vocal was not theLakers first pick that year, but I
think he was a damn good hire. I'm gonna be honest with you,
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man, I love him to beon our bench as like the defensive coordinator.
He probably wouldn't come back, butlike the dude had Phoenix, like
what top fifteen in the league indefense? Phoenix like he's you know,
he's known for Like I don't thinkit would happen again, but that's who
I would love to have on thebench for the defensive side of the ball.
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I'm here, I'm here. FrankieSmokes wants to come back. It's
been the block as an assistant coach. I got no beef for them.
I got no beef for them,the big guys Vaniers, I got no
beef whatsoever. Bring Franky Smokes back. Last note that I thought was interesting
in the two points right, andit's got to do with clutch sports clients.
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First is Lebron James. First ofall, do you believe that he
had zero involvement in the JJ headcoaching higher. No, even if he
didn't specifically go to rob or you'redoing a podcast with him. Obviously you'd
like the dude. I mean,so, come on, Lebron's a very
powerful man, you know, comeon. Maybe he just told the Lakers
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listen to the to the pod,you'll know how I feel about him.
Maybe that was their endorsement, like, well, it sounds like Lebron likes
this guy, went in the businesstogether. Couldn't be a wrong move,
right. I do think that Lebronmight be a step back so the ad
could be at the forefront of theconversation, which is appropriate. That's probably
what happened, and that was goingto be question number two because reported that
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Jaja Reddick called Anthony Davis. Theyhad a nice conversation, talked about life,
basketball, how JJ left him offof his all defensive team, I'm
sure, and mostly how he plansto utilize Anthony Davis and laden games to
utilize him on both ends of theball. He also talked about Lebron James
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playing more off ball, which youknow, since Lebron got to the Lakers,
and since probably his first season whenwe kicked the kids out, After
we kicked the kids out, allthat's been talked about Lebron playing more off
ball more off ball, more offbull Lebron, let's do it. JJ
says he wants to do it,and he's figured out a plan to execute
it. Thoughts on Anthony Davis takingthe fore front in them connecting good for
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the team, obviously, and thenabout the idea of Lebron playing off ball,
is it ever going to happen inthis man's career? Yeah, Ad
should be at the forefront, Likehe's a younger superstar, Like he's still
in his prime. Although he's older, he's still in his prime. Like,
yeah, it should be him.In terms of Lebron playing off ball,
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I'm cool Lebron having the ball incrunch time cool, But the other
thirty minutes of the game, thirtyfive minutes of the game, like yeah,
man, Like, if you're nota guard anymore, and you're not
a wing anymore, and you're apower forward, you need to be off
ball. He shot better this yearagain, his three point was better.
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Like, it also helps save hislegs a little bit throughout the season.
Yeah, But then if you're gonnado that, if you're gonna do that,
your backcourt cannot be del and Carusoat the same time. I mean
at Delo and often at the sametime wishful thinking like bring bring Dlo back,
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like do not let him walk?But like that backcourt overlaps way too
much, so you like you needa Caruso or KCP type that we used
to have that can plete some defense. But yeah, let Lebron play off
ball. I'm cool with that.Is he gonna actually do it, Probably
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not, let me see, We'llsee. He's gotta have he's gotta have
faith in whoever is controlling the ball. And it's not like Lebron is anti
playing off ball. He did itin Miami, right, he was cutting
the ship out of folks. Hedid in Cleveland back during folks all the
time. That's who Luca needs tobe watching Tapa of God, damn it.
Like how Lebron James played off ballwith dominant ball handlers, Like you
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would think that that would be thefirst you know, film study that he
he locks in on. But youknow, he's not blessed with the same
athletic ability, the quick twitch muscles. Right, look at hoops in slow
motion and he still bodies these dudes. So I ain't trying to tell him
to change his thing. I'm justsaying, if you want to play off
ball. Watch how Lebron James didin his prime. Brother. But with
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that being said, right, Lebronis at this stage in his career and
I'd be a lot more worried ifhe if he wasn't shooting as well as
he shot from three. That wasthe career year from three point land.
Lebron James continues to develop and morphinto whatever form a basketball player he needs
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to be. It just hopefully wehave a coach that knows how to utilize
these different parts of his game.Because he's a chameleon, he'll adapt to
whatever, and that the roster isalso so built in a way that helps
utilize that portion of the game.Anthony Davis a Lebron James b if we
can all get together and do thatfor four quarters, I think we can
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have some success and we could saveLebron's legs for the end of games.
We talked about this a lot.Nothing worse than watching Lebron having to go
turbo mode in the first quarter ofa game and the Lakers are only up
one. Hey, bro that inthat Denver series, there were some of
those in game possessions I thought shouldhave went to ad and not Lebron like,
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I'm sorry, Like there were somemissed opportunities, and you mentioned Lebron
cutting and all that. When youmentioned Luca earlier, that's who I thought
of, Like look at Lebron,Like I know he's not Lebron, nobody
is, but like look at that. But on our team, man,
there ain't no Kyrine, has noDwayne Wade in their primes. So will
Lebron play off ball for Russell orReeves? There's rumors that they might go
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off to Chris Paul for a backuprole. Chris Paul is like forty now,
yeah, Like I don't know,Like you know what, man,
I'll shut up after this. Thereis a chance the Lakers can win a
championship this year. Like it feelslike they're they're it feels like they're they're
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close, but they're also far away, and it's like they just need to
figure out this. Yep, they'rethey're like they led Denver with like eighty
percent of the series and still likethey're so we'll see. Man, he's
got he you can't be forty yearsold and he knows, like Lebron knows
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this, he knows he's not twentyfive year old Lebron anymore. But do
the Lakers recognize that they cannot puteverything on him all the time anymore?
Like you just can't. That's mywhole point. Season. Lebron's doing too
much too early in the year.It's exciting. I'm thankful. It's too
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much, too much, too much, too much, too much, And
we'll see. See the Lakers wererumored to be big name hunting at the
beginning towards going towards the off season, we'll see. We haven't heard too
much about the Donovan Mitchell's, TreyYoung's, the de Dante Murray's, even
though boy been Cleveland, Darius Garlandright, So, it sounds like Zach
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Lavine will be traded. However youfeel about him. He will. There's
a big contract that is going toget moved. Utah has floated. Laurie
Marketn's name out there. We'll seewhat they end up doing with that.
Kyle Kuzman is another name that's outthere. Cacp's got to get paid.
Who's going to cut the bread forhim? Paul George might facilitate a signing
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trade if he can't get the moneythat he wants in LA. There's enough
chess pieces on the board, enoughassets on the board for shit to get
real interesting, real quick. Canthe Lakers package these picks, these contracts?
What's d Loo going to decide todo, right, because you need
cooperation with him if you want tohave a bigger contract going out he and
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you know there's all that also contractualhard capping and all that other shit that
I don't even need to get into. But the Lakers have some really interesting
decisions to make in like the nextweek and a half. Free agency starts
right after Shiit's about to get crankingonce again. This is the second season,
folks. I hope we all understandwhat's about to go happen right now.
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The second season of basketball is aboutto commence, the NBA Draft,
then free agency. We're all hellbreaks loose. It's amazing. Everybody,
embrace it. We're gonna be apart of it. And the Lakers,
unlike the last couple of years,actually have multiple multiple pieces of draft capital
and contracts to flip. Who else. I'm not saying get excited for some
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big I'm just saying, if withAlex is correct, and they're gonna go
all in, going all in ain'tfor uh a you know, a rotational
backup big it might be we needthat. I think the Lakers might have
might have something else that they gotin mind to help utilize. Help JJ
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Redder, give them the Kayla Williamstreatment, right, Go get Keenan Allen,
Go, go go get a gogo sign Swift as you're running back,
Go draft another wide receiver. Let'sget JJ Wright, Let's just help
him. Go get this another star. Fuck it, let's go back superstar.
Honey, y'all. I'm excited.I'm excited. I know I was
a little dooming in gloom a littleearly in the show, but with the
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time, we're at end of JuneJuly about to be lit. So we'll
make sure we're tapped in with youguys as these next couple of weeks progressed.
As we saw, Alex Carusier gottraded for Josh Giddy. That's the
end of the sentence because there's nowhile the draft capital. They got flipped.
So the Chicago Bulls continue to justamaze me. With this last minute
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in the show. I just wantto once again thank my family for not
forcing me to support that franchise.They have done nothing but just disappoint their
fan base year after year after year, whether it's not getting all the way
there with the Derrick rosejo Keem NoahBulls, or it's just about signing stars
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well past their prime, the BenWallace's, the Dwayne Wade's just just anybody
anybody to letting go with superstars intheir prime, the Jimmy Butler's of the
world. I just thank the Lordevery day that I am a Los Angeles
Lakers fan. It could be worseLake a nation, it could be so
much worse. So thank you,thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Yolanda and Jeffrey Harris. That's it, man, That's all I got
for this episode. We'll keep y'allposted. We'll stay locked in for any
breaking news or movements going down inLakerland in the NBA world. We are
officially in the all season folks,but the podcast are going to keep rolling
in. So appreciate y'all for rockingwith us on Late Night Lakes Show where
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Alex It's Ricky. We'll see y'allnext time. Peace,
Hey, what's going on, y'all? Welcome to a new episode the Late
Night Lakes Show podcast powered by nineteenMedia Group. It is your hoster Ricky
and Alex. We are joining youguys on Friday, June the twenty first
year of our Lord, twenty twentyfour, and it is It's good and
bad news we got for everybody.The good news the Lakers have a new
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head coach. The bad news isthe Devil won the NBA Finals, so
we have to now live with Luciferwalking the earth for the next three hundred
and sixty five days. As theNBA champion, Boston Celtics now move in
front of the Los Angeles Lakers andall time championships eighteen to seventeen. Jalen
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Brown is nonfinals MVP. Wow doyou feel about that? Shout out?
Jaalen Brown? No shay to there, but you know stats look interesting,
so yeah, you know, BostonCeltics are NBA chance. But the Lakers
hired JJ Redick as a coach,so you know life's all about bounce,
I guess. But we'll get intoall of that. We'll get into We
haven't talked to you guys since misterwhat's his name. I've got his name
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already. Mister Daniel Hurley turned downon the Lakers job, and him and
WOJ conducted a successful coup of stealingthe attention and all the limelight away from
Shams and the JJ Reddick rumors.So we're gonna get into that shit too.
They're not off the hook, Soyou're not already. Make sure you
found the podcast wherever you get yourhashtag good content, Alex, my brother
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who man talk about just, youknow, worst case scenario for an ending
of an ANBA finals. Not onlydid the Boston Celtics win, this ship
wasn't even entertaining. Bro. Didyou how many games did you watch?
I caught parts of two games,but I'm not here to add to Celtics
ratings. What'd you make of thefinals? Yeah? I didn't even watch.
I mean I saw some highlights.I mean it was a lackluster finals.
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I mean they were clearly the betterteam going in than Dallas. I
thought Dallas had a puncher's chance ifLuca did Luca thing, but he did
not. So now Celtics have eighteenrings, one more than us. And
you know what, man, Imean, the Celtics suck whatever I mean,
it's they're not We were just talkinglike they're a storied franchise. I'm
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not gonna hate on them from thatperspective, but when the Lakers win,
the whole world celebrates. You know. I know they're haters, teams,
people that don't like the Lakers,but like, generally speaking, the Lakers
are such a massive franchise that theywere fans around the world. With the
Celtics winning, it just feels likeit's Boston and nobody else really cares.
I'm not getting any attention. AndI do want to say this, Luca
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ain't look man like. Luca isan amazing player, but the James Hardened
comparisons are one accurate until he provesotherwise. There's no difference except he's four
inches taller and he's white. Likethey they play the exact you know,
Harden at his peak played the exactsame way Luca does and the same stuff.
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Can't win that way. So whateverCeltics won, whatever, a nice
we got in a little bit ofLuca Luca combo. I like that.
Yeah, I almost forgot that.That was the topic of conversation. The
finals wrapped up, probably you know, close to a week ago now,
and we are officially in the NBAoff season, which is exciting. Some
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trades are already happening with the withthe local Chicago Bulls. For me,
we'll get into that, but Imean it, this just goes back to
that stupid narrative talking about how HardenHarden was a better player at his peak
than Kobe was. And I justlaugh at folks, man, I laugh
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at folks who over index these what'sthe nice term these days, heliocentric superstars
that put up all the shots right, and then when it's playoff time and
defenses can lock in on them,they're kind of useless. And not to
say Luca is useless at all.He still led his team in scoring.
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But when the ball's out of yourhands and you not doing much else on
the court on offense, and thenyou go over on the defense and they
got highlight reels of you just beinga stoop yep, it looks a little
funny in the light when folks talkabout your greatness. Right, Luca's gonna
Luca will be a Hall of Famer, I have no doubt about that.
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James Ardens will be a Hall ofFamer. I have no doubt about that,
right, Like shit, Benny theBull will probably be a Hall of
Famer the NBA, you know,let you know, basketball Hall of Fame
is so inclusive. So I justit's just hard for me to put these
guys on pedestals when they are absenteeson the defensive end and on offense.
It almost feels like Luca's not aspot up shooter, right, Like he
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needs the ball in his hand.And if you already got a guy now,
Kyrie who needs the ball in hishands too, this is what you
get to get. This also isthe Denver Nuggets fault for not taking care
of business, because that would havebeen a much more entertaining NBA Finals if
it was Nuggets and Celtics, Sothe Wolves would have been more entertaining.
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I would have loved to see theWolves against Celtics. Like shit, but
lucas too good to be like aone sided player. He's too good not
to be able to play off ball. He's too good not to at least
he's six' nine not to atleast be able to do something defensively,
right, Like, so, yeah, he'll be a Hall of Famer,
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like you said so, James,But like there's the Hall of Fame,
and then there's the back room inthe Hall of Fame where like Mike and
them are at Magic Corinth, likeKobe Chack. They ain't getting in that
room. They not getting in thatroom, not playing like this. Nope,
nope, no, nope. Soyou know, we're on to the
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offseason. Hopefully the Lakers have madesome changes that are going to put them
in a better position. I sawa statman the Lakers in the last ten
seasons have been a top six seedonce. Did I have that correct?
It's it's something ridiculous like that,bro. That might be right, because
I mean the year we won thechampionship the number one seed in the West,
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and then the follow up year Ithink number yeah, some of that
year, yep, and then wewere playing team since then and before then
we were dog shit, So thatmight be right. Dog So you know,
not to jump ahead, but youknow, we gotta we gotta at
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least speak on this whole Dan Hurley, Adrian wo Janowski, whatever the fuck
you want to call this long storyshort, Lakers had a fever dream of
an idea to meet with Dan Hurleyand pursue him all the way up to
giving him a contract to the tuneof seventy plus million dollars to come over
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and coach Los Angeles Lakers. Itwould be double what he he was being
paid at the Universe at Yukon.And then Hurley. He took the flight,
took the took the private jet outhim and his wife, spent some
time with the Lakers, went homeand he said, you know what,
I'm staying like Leonardo dicap here onWolf of Wall Street. So I'm not
going. I'm not leaving. Soyou know, that was a whole bunch
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of time of nothing. I don'tknow, Alex. Everyone is a think
in Unison thinking that this was ajust a nice play by Woje and Dan
Hurley to you know, get theyget their name out there, get the
name up. WoDES wrote the bookon Dan Hurley. Literally, man,
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you know, another head coach,another college coach uses the Lakers name to
achieve something. What your what's yourthoughts on the Dan Hurley pursuit. I
mean, look, man, whenwhen the news came out of nowhere,
Wolde was like, it's going tobe a massive offer. What he's that
Lakers want? And the framing ofit led me to believe that the Lakers
would offer somewhere around one hundred million, maybe eight years. One hundred million.
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They offered six at seventy That stillwould have made him a top six
or seven highest paid head coach.But what was what was most you know,
startling to me, He flies out, Lakers make their offer six and
seventy and if he wants a hundredmillion or once more years. There didn't
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seem to be in any negotiation.He didn't counter his agent didn't counteroffer,
which you and I have been incorporate America for a long time. You
always counteroffer. I mean, evenif even if you think they're going to
say no, you lay it outthere and so right, the fact that
he didn't tells me that he nevertook the Lakers seriously, and he used
it to probably milk Yukon out ofmore money. There was already a there
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was already an extension on the table. He had not signed it. I
would imagine they're going to up thatand at some point we'll get the numbers
on the Yukon extension. But theyabsolutely used the Lakers. I do think
that if the Lakers offered him onehundred million or eight years or whatever.
He probably says yes because it's justtoo much money to say no to.
And for the people who think thatthat genie is cheap, there's no amount.
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If the Lakers really wanted to givehim a hundred million or whatever,
Yukon cannot compete. I don't carewho their boosters are. Colleges, no
matter how big they are, andpro teams are two different animals, especially
when it's a basketball college and there'sno football revenue. There's no way they
could have competed if the money.I mean so. But they made their
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offer, he went to a BillyJoel concert and he then said no.
And ever since then he and hiswife have been on a press tour.
I've never seen anything like it.Man. They have gotten more attention in
the last week than they did forthe two championships that he won at Yukon.
It's insane. What's there to talkto the wife about? What's going
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on? Why do I need toknow that? She cried when she heard
that the Akers wanted to talk toy'all. What are you doing? One
with you? One hundred percent?Like I think Hurley himself is doing too
much. But like if I turndown a job My wife doesn't have anything
to say to you about me turningdown a job. If she turns down
a job, What I got tosay about that? Nothing Like we're like,
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you're not she's not on his coachingstaff, like I don't. They
are milking this, absolutely gonna getmore money out of Yukon. And I
do think that he makes the jumpat some point, but let's just call
it what it is. He wouldprefer to be a big fish in a
small pond and a small small fishin a big pond. That's it.
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This coach guy, they they youknow, started flowing the stuff around.
You know, if the nixt jobbecomes available, he could just jump and
go do that. Like John Timbodeauis a fucking fantastic coach. What he
did? What are y'all doing?What are y'all talking about over there?
Man? It's good. We getit. We understand the story, we
understand the logic. You might foolthe sixteen seventeen eighteen year olds, the
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youngins, right, you might foolthe casual folks who just think that this
was the Lakers fumbling over their ownselves more incompetence by then. But I'm
in the camp that them, folks. Wasn't really trying to come over.
Bro, They wasn't really trying tocome over. They saw the time it
was taking for the Lakers to hirea head coach. They say, you
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know what, this deal ain't wrappedup. Yeah, let's go have a
conversation. Let's take a private flightto Los Angeles for twenty four hours,
get whined and dined by the biggestfranchise in basketball, and let's go home
to a Billy Joe concert. Don'tthey sound like a great weekend spootie.
Yeah? Amen, and listen.I saw somebody found some tweets of his
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look like appearing that he's a Celticsfan or something like that, and it's
like, doubt it. I wouldyou're Northeastern guy Celtics. During the finals,
he played the Lakers like he whatever, man, whatever he could have
he could have taken that. Hecould have taken that seventy million even if
it didn't work out, collected guaranteedmoney, and went right back to college
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in another top job or went toanother protein like That's the other thing.
Probably the final point in this.He technically had nothing like. Yes,
he uprooted his family, moved acrossthe country now is going to be under
the microscope distance, and that howold is Dan here? He's still relatively
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a young guy, right if hewould be the top coach at whatever school
he goes back to. I understandyour plant your roots. It's hard,
you know. The wife said thatanytime she looked at Genie Bus's face,
all she saw was her babies atback at Yukon and all this other dumb
like whatever. He I don't wantto call it. Um. That's how
you feel. That's how you feel. You got a connection to these young
kids that come in and out.It almost gives me like the uh the
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wife of a college football head coachvibes, right, You see, like
some of those sec wives that theygiving kisses to all the players as they
come out of the locker room orthey in the white house hitting the dance
moves with the team. They feellike they have a really like mother son
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connection as the wife of the headcoach. And again, big fish,
small pond, however you want to, you know, think about this.
There's another side to it too thatwe ain't got to get into. But
you know, freagure, this thing'snot God anyways. Some folks really love
the position that they're in, andyes, going to be the head coach
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of the Los Angeles Lakers would makeDan Hurley one of the most famous people
in sports. His wife wouldn't.There's nothing that comes without with the wife.
I mean, obviously all the perksare living in Los Angeles and it'd
be an amazing life. But shewants to be important. I get it.
I get it. A man,you look at her until she wants
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to be important, oh, nodoubt. I mean, look, folks
are not talking about race all thetime. On my account, I got
Plantation vibes. Man like Harley.He could talk to college kids anyway that
he wants. You ain't doing thatto even the lowest NBA player because they're
grown men. And his wife talkingabout their her babies. It reminded me
of like the plantation wife, likethe owners owner's wife, like loving the
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help as long as the help isactually the help, and if they're not
the help, they get rid ofthem, Like what are we doing here?
Man? Like all of it isridiculous. So they played the Lakers
Wolves. Of course Wolves has ahand and he always has a hand in
some of this nonsense. It's justI don't know. Man, just such
a debacle. And I'm not evenblaming the Lakers. I do think they
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should all offered more. But Iget there. I get if they thought,
well, this is what we're gonnaoffer. It's more money than he's
making. It makes him a topNBA paid coach and he's got no NBA
experience like they they I think theyplayed it right. They probably assume they'd
be a counter like this is counter. They said, no, they just
been checked it. You have aset up a trade in two k or
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Madden and the other team don't evencount. They just say, no,
no, we just not gonna dothis, all right, Oh good,
best of luck, Dan Hurley.Even if they had offered him a hundred
million, I would have came backand said, hey can I get one
ten? And you've come back youstill but we got a new head coach
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All right, that was fun,all right, Late Night Show,
Ricky and Alex all right, manin triumphantly not really surprising news. JJ
Redick is the Lakers head coach,signing a four year deal. First reported
by Adrian ward Janowski, then followedup by Shams. I do want to
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take this time to give Schamps hisflowers, his victory lap. He was
pretty consistent the whole time, right, and he has been doubling down and
kind of kicking dirt on Woja's graveabout how it's always been JJ leading the
pack because of the multiple meetings thathim and Pelinka have taken all the way
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going back to their meetings in Chicagoat the Combine and him finally having that
formal interview with Jeanie and the frontoffice. Here we go. The JJ
Redick era has commenced. The thirtynine year old will be taking over,
and I think the status if I'mwrong, it was the twenty ninth Lakers
head coach of franchise history. Man, Here we go, Alex first thoughts
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when you saw the news JJ Reddicktaking over from podcast d Let me not
say that, because he's way morethan podcasts. From an NBA lifer to
commentator to successful podcast hosts to mediapersonality to Los Angeles Lakers head coach.
What a world he has lived?Your thoughts, hey man, this shit
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was like when the news broke.It was like a bottle rocket instead of
like fireworks. It was just hisname had been been mentioned with the Lakers
for so long. It was justlike all right, and you know other
names like like Barrego. Like thisparticular coaching search, there were no like
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superstar coaches to go after. Hurleyobviously came out of nowhere, and I
like the Lakers looking at the collegeranks, but there were no hotshot assistants.
The Micah Nori stuff went away reallyquick. We'll hear anybody else.
Nope. So they they think thatReddick can be a good coach. Let
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me say this because people say thatI'm a hater. I don't care who
the Lakers could hire, like CookieMonster. I want him to do well,
like I want the Lakers head coachto do well. What I am
critical of is hiring a first timehead coach with literally no had no coaching
experience. He played fifteen years inthe league. Okay, cool, he's
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a podcaster, Okay cool, he'sa TV analyst, argues with Stephen A.
Smith from time to time. Okaycool, but like he only coached
his kids' AAU team, Like listen, man, only in America can a
dude have no experience at doing hisjob and get the highest job in a
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particular like company. Like, Imean, we see it, saw this
with the White House a handful ofyears ago. You know, like this
is insane, Like, so canhe can he be good? Yeah?
From all accounts, he knows basketball, so the x's and o's cool.
They say he's dedicated. Cool.Can he lead grown men? I don't.
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We don't know. Can he handlethe LA spotlight? We don't know.
He smiles, he's got nice hair, but like, lose three games
in a row and we're gonna seehow much of that shine comes off.
So they're comparing him to pat Riley. God, that's setting him up fa
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filure by even which hat's name,Like the circumstances of Pat everything was so
different. But I hope he doeswell. Man, I'm just they floated
his coaching staff, and I hopefullywant to talk about some of the names,
but like it sounds like they're gonnatry and put together a good coaching
staff. Yeah, but he's arookie head coach. Man, we just
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had a rookie head coach. Yes, Lebron. Lebron's a year older.
Yeah, like Lebron's a year older, a d is a year older.
We don't know what they're gonna doon the draft night, So they're gonna
keep the pick, trade the pick, like we don't know what's gonna go
on. Like I don't know,man, Like I'm sorry, maybe I'm
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a hater, but I saw thiswith Steve Nash. I saw this with
Derek Fisher. I saw this withJason Kidd. Like it took Kid years
to actually become a good head coach. His go around in Brooklyn was terrible.
Like Nash was really really bad,like Fish really bad. Like what
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are we doing here? And Idon't want to hear the Steve curR shit
because at least Steve Kerr was inthe front office before he became my head
coach. He at least was onan NBA team managing something. So and
curs once in a lifetime, Oncein a lifetime. So maybe I am
a hater man, what say you? Yeah, I mean, I don't
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know. It's it's a mixed bag. Before Jason Kidd, you had Mark
Jackson for the Warriors. He wasputting together a decent little foundation of the
team. Oh he brought religion intothe workplace. And then I think it
started to say for a little bit, and quite as it's kep it was
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Mark Jackson's Like Steve won with MarkJackson's team. Like there's a lot of
things that led to that Steph Curryhaving that underwhelming contract because of his ankle
issues and him all of a suddenbecoming one of the greatest players of all
time that no one thought, Like, no one thought that was gonna happen.
Reddick is He's not inheriting a teamwhere the superstars are on the way
up the eighties plateauing and Lebron's gonnacome down at some point, so different
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circumstances. But my bad man,go ahead, no no, no,
no, right, I mean athousand percent. And it's funny you brought
up that the Lakers just hired arookie head coach in Darvin Ham, and
he had some assistant coaching experience,but it almost felt like the Lakers hired
Darvin Ham. Well, we knowwhy the Lakers hired Darvin Ham. It
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was to make the rush shit workwith all the superstars and all the grown
ass man. They liked that DarvinHam was a quote unquote leader of men.
Maybe because he was six seven,was a big guy and had a
beer belly and was bigger than alot of people and was the same size
as the bron I don't know,maybe that's what they thought by leader of
men, they can handle all thosedynamic personalities in the locker room with rust
still there. This feels different inthe sense that I don't think, I
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don't I don't know. Am Iwrong for thinking that, as the Lakers
say, they want a head coachthat is gonna be here to build for
the future but also help maximize thesuperstars of today? Am I wrong for
thinking you can't do both? Like, I don't think that's possible. And
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there's were bridging eras in fucking basketball. These planes go up, they go,
they burn beautifully, they come down, and you just pray that it's
a soft landing. Right The greatestsoft landing was that the Bulls ninety eight
season, right, and that stillwas a shit show as we saw.
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Like, I don't know, Ithink you're kind of just I think that's
a little bit of gamesmanship to thefans into everybody else saying no, we're
still gonna compete today and also buildto the future. I don't, I
don't, I don't believe that tobe true. I think the JJ Riddick
high was eyes towards the future.Like they talk about maximizing this era,
this era of Lakers basketball, GodWilling at the most has two years left
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this season and next season, anddepending on how this season goes, and
let's you know, not to kickthe obvious down the road, Lebron James.
This is all an assumption that LebronJames opts out signs a two or
three year extension and you know oneprobably whatever that last year of that extension
is probably the farewell tour. Iffolks are talking about we just want to
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head coach to outlive the additional contract, Oh, Lebron will be here after
that. Right. If we're sittinghere and we want to do both,
it don't take much. You're obviouslygot JJ Reddick here to start planning for
the Max Christie's, the Jalen Hoods, Shafinos, the Really, let's bring
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a young guy in to lay somenew foundation, some new cement in these
cracks and let's start. No,it's not even laying it over the cracks.
They just laying new foundation in adifferent spot. And they're trying to
tell you're supposed to help the oldhouse. I don't think this for the
old house. This might be theappease the old house a little bit.
But if you haves Lebron's folks,he ain't had shit to do with this.
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AD was pretty heavily involved, whichI could get down with. I'm
here for that because AD will behere after Lebron god willing. So I
know that was a long winded answer, Bro, but hopefully y'all were rocking
with me there. As far asI don't see this being a two model
strategy going forward, the Lakers arebroad JJ Ridick here, so he could
be the head coach of the Lakersgoing into twenty twenty nine, and that
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is post Lebron James era, andI think we'll start seeing that as some
of the moves that they make butwe'll see. I don't know. Do
you think they'll go all in withthese draft picks. Do you think they'll
start making some smaller moves, maybetry to get a little younger. How
do you see this playing out asfar as roster construction goes, They better
go all in, Like, theybetter go all in because we're at a
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point where, like, if youlook, I do think that there are
some particular some potential prospects around theseventeen mark, and this rumor they may
try to jump up, but Ithink there's some guys that they could draft.
You know, if they do it, it needs to be someone over
the age of twenty one, Noeighteen and nineteen year olds. It needs
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to be a junior or a senior, like preferably a big man or a
wing, because the Lakers haven't drafteda big man or wing since I mean,
I don't even know since win.It's been years. So it's just
like they better go all in.And if you look at the Lakers handful
of recent coaches, if you're hiringReddick to lead the organization after Lebron,
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the truth is every coach you've hiredin recent years have made it two years
and so I'm looking at that trendis ready gonna make it like if they
if they fuck up this year andhave a bad next year, like is
he around? Probably not? Heprobably is not around. So to me,
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spend all the money you need onthe coaching staff. Give like listen,
listen, listen, listen. Ifyou have to go, get Phil
Jackson, pat Riley and Red auerbackout of the that's who should be on
his coaching staff, right, Like, give him the best minds available.
And I'm saying that, you know, facetiously, but like, but beyond
that, also give him a teamthat can actually play like we've got we
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have too many one sided players,man, I know you know that,
like d Loo is a one sidedguy. Austin really is a one sided
guy. So is Van do Sowas really like all these guys are one
sided. If if vandoh and anduh Ruy were like one player, great,
but like, give not only Reddick, but give Lebron and ad some
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consistent help I get, Give themsome bigs, give them some rebounders,
give them a guy that can hitan open shot, like go for it.
Forget about what we look like intwenty thirty. It's really about what
we look like now. So Ihope they go for it. We just
saw Crusoe got traded for giddy likeno draft compensation, like no swops like
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CRUs all All League defender, andsomehow he got moved for basically nothing.
If there are deals out there likethat, I know there's a Lakers tax,
but like, see what see whatDC wants to do about about Kuzma,
Call Portland about Jeremy Grant, likeget some size on the team,
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Like, man, I can't,I can't. Like So you think they're
putting pushing the chips forward, Yougotta, you gotta, even if that
means sacrificing some years of expedited rebuildingprocess by trading some of those draft picks.
You're in favor of maximizing this eraright now, and what would come
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with those trade packages. I'm withyou, I'm with you. I'm just
I'm worried that the Lakers are nowmoving into a direction where they're they're like,
hey, we will take Zachy orwhatever. The Purdue big man is
at seventeen, which is fine,we'll take him. We'll draft Bronnie.
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Maybe these guys can contribute. Maybehe could contribute. This season, Bronnie
will will not That's okay. We'rebuilding for the future, right And the
only other rumor this offseason or sincesince last year that has been as loud
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as the JJ Reddick is going tobe the head coach of the Lakers is
Ronnie James is going to be draftedby the Lakers. And I'm not against
it. I'm not against it atall. In fact, I'm here for
the nepotism, to be honest withyou. But I just feel like the
Lakers strategy and their decision making,it's like someone's written them down on flash
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cards and they're just when it's timefor them to read their lines, they're
up, so we'll see. I'malso worried that we go all in Lakers
start to make a run, weget to the playoffs, and all of
a sudden, it's like, ohyeah, we're quickly reminded that we have
a rookie head coach that's not usedto making some of these decisions. But
like you said, that's why yougot to have the best assistance around.
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Some of the names that Johann Buja, Sham Serani, and Sam Amick have
reported for JJ Reddick's coaching staff Thefirst one off the top is former thunder
head coach. Why am I missingmy man's name on here? Uh?
Dolts was mentioned Brooks? Yeah,Scott Brooks. Why I'm not not seeing
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this in this article anyways? Herewe got Yeah. So the names I
have been mentioned for the coaching staffyep, Scott Brooks, Sam Scott Brooks,
Sam Cassel, Jared Dudley, andformer Laker Rajon Rondo. All those
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guys except Rajon Rondo are currently employedon on other coaching staffs. Uh.
Sam Cassell just won a championship withthe Boston Celtics. He's due for an
upgraded position. I think that'd bea home run higher. Uh. Scott
Brooks has head coaching experience. Itsounds like he is the lead candidate to
be his lead assistant. Everybody's kindof like man on that. I'm like,
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where are your other genius options?Like, like we've been talking about,
this wasn't the strongest head coach coachingpool and if so, fact though,
that means it's probably not the strongestassistant head coaching pool that's available.
So Jared Dudley's there with the Mavericks. You know, Hey, Jared Dud's
a cool guy. I guess hedoesn't move me one way or another as
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far as an assistant coaching position,right, He just he just got to
downs right. And I remember twoyears ago how he was. He was
begging that the Lakers need to givehim a roster spot because they needed a
veteran mentor like him. And He'slike, all right, bro, it
sounds like you want to be anassistant coach. So I don't know any
of these names excite you anybody elsethat you think they should look at that
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James Barrego talk has significantly cool down. Sounds like he will end up either
in Detroit or in Cleveland. Hispreference, according to Dave Wokie, is
that Cleveland is his preferred destination becausethey have a win now roster. Thoughts
on the coaching staff that has beenreported for JJ Redick, I mean,
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I don't need a perfect former headcoach to be on the bench with him,
So Stouts, Stots or or BrooksI take. I mean, I
do want to have someone on thebench that's done the job. I'd like
both of them there, honestly.I mean, look when they brought in
Frank Vogel, who had plenty ofcoaching experience. They had what Jason Kidd,
Lionel Hollins, and there was somebodyelse on the I think there was
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a third one if I'm not mistaken, but they had those two that come
to mind, like give it.There's no there's no salary cap on coach's
roster, like spend the money toget both of them. And Rondo's cool,
Okay. I like Dudley also,he's a locker room guy, all
right, bring him in. Likethe one thing I'd like for them to
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do is bring in a defensive mindmind it assistant coach. I would like
that. I'd like cassell bring Casselle, like, give him everything that he
needs man to be successful. Becausethere's one thing that I know, like
you can't run a sprint and amarathon at the same time. And if
that's what they're gonna try and domarathon towards the future, sprint towards another
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title this year, Like it's notgoing to work. The Lakers need a
bright head coaching staff. They needyoung legs to get through a two games
because of our stars are older.Like, but I like the names I'm
hearing to me. Hopefully we findout within the next week. Who's going
to join his staff? But toyour point, like, who do people
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think he's supposed to go higher?I'd love to hear Mark Jackson's name,
you know, you you you reallywould love Mark Jackson to get another coaching
job assistant or or hey, coach, you're a big fan of it.
Yeah, I mean who did theClippers just hire? Was it Van Gundy?
Yeah? They just got like Ilike stuff like that. Like these
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guys, they they've got institutional knowledgeof the role. And Van Gundy made
not want to be at coach anymore. He might I don't know, but
like to me, you know thisin business, have as many smart people
in the room as you can andidentify the leader's weak points and build off
of that. We know the Lakers'front office has a lot of weak points.
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There's not a lot of institutional knowledge. They their front office should look
more like you know, Google,but yet somehow it looks more like your
local it shot And it's insane.So I would like the coaching, the
coaching roster to just be phenomenal,right, and if the Lakers do well,
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some of those guys will get secondchances anyway. Be Causelle probably will
finally get a real shot. Stottsmight get another job. Like just the
names are fine to me. Ithink they're they're fine coaches. Dann Wolkie
of the LA Time said the Lakerswant to have multiple former head coaches on
the coaching staff, and I thinkthat makes the sense in the world,
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right, everybody got a saft spotfor Dough, everybody wanton on the coaching
staff. You know that comes withsome considerations. We won't get into any
of the legal considerations around that.I will just point out the fact that
Rajon Rondo is not a watch Howshould I describe this. He's not a
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beta personality whatsoever. He is astrong will personality. That's how he had
all of his success. He wasa point guard, the general out there
on the court, was not afraidto butt heads with folks. I say
that to say as this would beone of Ragon Rondo, this would be
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his first NBA coaching opportunity and JJReddick's first NBA coaching opportunity. Do you
feel like there would lead to somepotential issues where you know, the players
could start gravitating towards coach Rondo.And it's not as much listening to coach
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Reddick, Like, I don't know, maybe that's just me, but I
could easily see a situation where,throughout some frustrations and the turbulence in a
rookie head coach season, the greatnessof Rajon Rondo starts eking out that you
know, I could probably do alittle bit better job than what we're seeing
right here. Look, I meanthere are people players reportedly that like Handy
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more than Darvin this past season.Like you know, coach, players always
gonna have their favorite coaches. Sometimesit's not the head coach. Most of
the time it's not the head coach. It's usually somebody else. The head
coach has a huge job, haspulled in a lot of different directions,
they end up spending more time withthe assistant coaches. I'm not so concerned
with the players, because I liketo think that everybody on the team as
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an adult. But what I cansee is, again, if Reddick stumbles
and Rondo's on the team, howlong before the fan base starts getting really
loud about hiring Rondo. There arepeople that wanted him to be interviewed hired
now, so you do have that. I don't know if Rondo's personality will
jail with JJ. It's I don'tthat's between two grown men. I assume
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that they'll figure it out if Reddickwants to hire him. But I don't
know, man, it's just like, give me the two former head coaches.
I love it, and then Idon't know. I know Rondo would
be an assistant, but like,is he he's not the shooting coach,
Like, like what is it?Like what's his job as an assistant?
Like Phil Handy was a skills guy, Like what would Rondo actually be doing?
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What would Jared Dudley actually be doingother than just being locker room guys
now on the bench. I reallydon't know. Kobe love Rondo because Rondo
was an asshole. But you knowwhat, sometimes when you're the guy in
charge, you don't feel like hearingnothing from no asshole on your team.
So I don't know how any ofthis works. I can only hope for
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the best, man, like Ican only hope for the best. I
was just asking. I was justasking, just a consideration, something to
think about, you know, aswe try playing. Let's build an assistant
coaching staff for what feels like thefourth time in the past six seven years.
Bro, You know what, I'mkind of sick of this being a
(40:21):
department that we have to talk about. Like, I don't know, maybe
we were just spoiled thinking back thatwe had p Jacks, right, he
had us for a two different times, but it felt like one complete stretch
when you look back on that eraof your life and now here we are
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just spinning the wheel and see whatwe get. You know what's funny about
that? Like you think about it, between West and Phil's first stint,
it was the same thing. Imean, we had a lot of guys
come and go. We had DaleHarris that could not get checking Kobe over
the hump. Incomes Phil, threerings, four finals, Phil walks out
(41:05):
the door again, coaching carousel.Two years later Phil comes back, they
get pal, Lakers win again.Phil leaves, they flirt were bringing him
back for a third time. Theypicked uh D'Antoni and ever since then again
this carousel. So it feels likeit's either either the Lakers hire hall of
fame, like they get their Hallof Fame coach, or they get a
(41:29):
bunch of nobodies. There's no inbetween. There's no in between. Well,
Frankie Smokes has entered the chat memy fault. You are right about
me. I vocal was not theLakers first pick that year, but I
think he was a damn good hire. I'm gonna be honest with you,
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man, I love him to beon our bench as like the defensive coordinator.
He probably wouldn't come back, butlike the dude had Phoenix, like
what top fifteen in the league indefense? Phoenix like he's you know,
he's known for Like I don't thinkit would happen again, but that's who
I would love to have on thebench for the defensive side of the ball.
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I'm here, I'm here. FrankieSmokes wants to come back. It's
been the block as an assistant coach. I got no beef for them.
I got no beef for them,the big guys Vaniers, I got no
beef whatsoever. Bring Franky Smokes back. Last note that I thought was interesting
in the two points right, andit's got to do with clutch sports clients.
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First is Lebron James. First ofall, do you believe that he
had zero involvement in the JJ headcoaching higher. No, even if he
didn't specifically go to rob or you'redoing a podcast with him. Obviously you'd
like the dude. I mean,so, come on, Lebron's a very
powerful man, you know, comeon. Maybe he just told the Lakers
(43:01):
listen to the to the pod,you'll know how I feel about him.
Maybe that was their endorsement, like, well, it sounds like Lebron likes
this guy, went in the businesstogether. Couldn't be a wrong move,
right. I do think that Lebronmight be a step back so the ad
could be at the forefront of theconversation, which is appropriate. That's probably
what happened, and that was goingto be question number two because reported that
(43:27):
Jaja Reddick called Anthony Davis. Theyhad a nice conversation, talked about life,
basketball, how JJ left him offof his all defensive team, I'm
sure, and mostly how he plansto utilize Anthony Davis and laden games to
utilize him on both ends of theball. He also talked about Lebron James
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playing more off ball, which youknow, since Lebron got to the Lakers,
and since probably his first season whenwe kicked the kids out, After
we kicked the kids out, allthat's been talked about Lebron playing more off
ball more off ball, more offbull Lebron, let's do it. JJ
says he wants to do it,and he's figured out a plan to execute
it. Thoughts on Anthony Davis takingthe fore front in them connecting good for
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the team, obviously, and thenabout the idea of Lebron playing off ball,
is it ever going to happen inthis man's career? Yeah, Ad
should be at the forefront, Likehe's a younger superstar, Like he's still
in his prime. Although he's older, he's still in his prime. Like,
yeah, it should be him.In terms of Lebron playing off ball,
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I'm cool Lebron having the ball incrunch time cool, But the other
thirty minutes of the game, thirtyfive minutes of the game, like yeah,
man, Like, if you're nota guard anymore, and you're not
a wing anymore, and you're apower forward, you need to be off
ball. He shot better this yearagain, his three point was better.
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Like, it also helps save hislegs a little bit throughout the season.
Yeah, But then if you're gonnado that, if you're gonna do that,
your backcourt cannot be del and Carusoat the same time. I mean
at Delo and often at the sametime wishful thinking like bring bring Dlo back,
(45:22):
like do not let him walk?But like that backcourt overlaps way too
much, so you like you needa Caruso or KCP type that we used
to have that can plete some defense. But yeah, let Lebron play off
ball. I'm cool with that.Is he gonna actually do it, Probably
(45:44):
not, let me see, We'llsee. He's gotta have he's gotta have
faith in whoever is controlling the ball. And it's not like Lebron is anti
playing off ball. He did itin Miami, right, he was cutting
the ship out of folks. Hedid in Cleveland back during folks all the
time. That's who Luca needs tobe watching Tapa of God, damn it.
Like how Lebron James played off ballwith dominant ball handlers, Like you
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would think that that would be thefirst you know, film study that he
he locks in on. But youknow, he's not blessed with the same
athletic ability, the quick twitch muscles. Right, look at hoops in slow
motion and he still bodies these dudes. So I ain't trying to tell him
to change his thing. I'm justsaying, if you want to play off
ball. Watch how Lebron James didin his prime. Brother. But with
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that being said, right, Lebronis at this stage in his career and
I'd be a lot more worried ifhe if he wasn't shooting as well as
he shot from three. That wasthe career year from three point land.
Lebron James continues to develop and morphinto whatever form a basketball player he needs
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to be. It just hopefully wehave a coach that knows how to utilize
these different parts of his game.Because he's a chameleon, he'll adapt to
whatever, and that the roster isalso so built in a way that helps
utilize that portion of the game.Anthony Davis a Lebron James b if we
can all get together and do thatfor four quarters, I think we can
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have some success and we could saveLebron's legs for the end of games.
We talked about this a lot.Nothing worse than watching Lebron having to go
turbo mode in the first quarter ofa game and the Lakers are only up
one. Hey, bro that inthat Denver series, there were some of
those in game possessions I thought shouldhave went to ad and not Lebron like,
(47:36):
I'm sorry, Like there were somemissed opportunities, and you mentioned Lebron
cutting and all that. When youmentioned Luca earlier, that's who I thought
of, Like look at Lebron,Like I know he's not Lebron, nobody
is, but like look at that. But on our team, man,
there ain't no Kyrine, has noDwayne Wade in their primes. So will
Lebron play off ball for Russell orReeves? There's rumors that they might go
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off to Chris Paul for a backuprole. Chris Paul is like forty now,
yeah, Like I don't know,Like you know what, man,
I'll shut up after this. Thereis a chance the Lakers can win a
championship this year. Like it feelslike they're they're it feels like they're they're
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close, but they're also far away, and it's like they just need to
figure out this. Yep, they'rethey're like they led Denver with like eighty
percent of the series and still likethey're so we'll see. Man, he's
got he you can't be forty yearsold and he knows, like Lebron knows
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this, he knows he's not twentyfive year old Lebron anymore. But do
the Lakers recognize that they cannot puteverything on him all the time anymore?
Like you just can't. That's mywhole point. Season. Lebron's doing too
much too early in the year.It's exciting. I'm thankful. It's too
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much, too much, too much, too much, too much, And
we'll see. See the Lakers wererumored to be big name hunting at the
beginning towards going towards the off season, we'll see. We haven't heard too
much about the Donovan Mitchell's, TreyYoung's, the de Dante Murray's, even
though boy been Cleveland, Darius Garlandright, So, it sounds like Zach
(49:28):
Lavine will be traded. However youfeel about him. He will. There's
a big contract that is going toget moved. Utah has floated. Laurie
Marketn's name out there. We'll seewhat they end up doing with that.
Kyle Kuzman is another name that's outthere. Cacp's got to get paid.
Who's going to cut the bread forhim? Paul George might facilitate a signing
(49:50):
trade if he can't get the moneythat he wants in LA. There's enough
chess pieces on the board, enoughassets on the board for shit to get
real interesting, real quick. Canthe Lakers package these picks, these contracts?
What's d Loo going to decide todo, right, because you need
cooperation with him if you want tohave a bigger contract going out he and
(50:13):
you know there's all that also contractualhard capping and all that other shit that
I don't even need to get into. But the Lakers have some really interesting
decisions to make in like the nextweek and a half. Free agency starts
right after Shiit's about to get crankingonce again. This is the second season,
folks. I hope we all understandwhat's about to go happen right now.
(50:35):
The second season of basketball is aboutto commence, the NBA Draft,
then free agency. We're all hellbreaks loose. It's amazing. Everybody,
embrace it. We're gonna be apart of it. And the Lakers,
unlike the last couple of years,actually have multiple multiple pieces of draft capital
and contracts to flip. Who else. I'm not saying get excited for some
(50:58):
big I'm just saying, if withAlex is correct, and they're gonna go
all in, going all in ain'tfor uh a you know, a rotational
backup big it might be we needthat. I think the Lakers might have
might have something else that they gotin mind to help utilize. Help JJ
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Redder, give them the Kayla Williamstreatment, right, Go get Keenan Allen,
Go, go go get a gogo sign Swift as you're running back,
Go draft another wide receiver. Let'sget JJ Wright, Let's just help
him. Go get this another star. Fuck it, let's go back superstar.
Honey, y'all. I'm excited.I'm excited. I know I was
a little dooming in gloom a littleearly in the show, but with the
(51:42):
time, we're at end of JuneJuly about to be lit. So we'll
make sure we're tapped in with youguys as these next couple of weeks progressed.
As we saw, Alex Carusier gottraded for Josh Giddy. That's the
end of the sentence because there's nowhile the draft capital. They got flipped.
So the Chicago Bulls continue to justamaze me. With this last minute
(52:07):
in the show. I just wantto once again thank my family for not
forcing me to support that franchise.They have done nothing but just disappoint their
fan base year after year after year, whether it's not getting all the way
there with the Derrick rosejo Keem NoahBulls, or it's just about signing stars
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well past their prime, the BenWallace's, the Dwayne Wade's just just anybody
anybody to letting go with superstars intheir prime, the Jimmy Butler's of the
world. I just thank the Lordevery day that I am a Los Angeles
Lakers fan. It could be worseLake a nation, it could be so
much worse. So thank you,thank you, thank you, thank you.
(52:52):
Yolanda and Jeffrey Harris. That's it, man, That's all I got
for this episode. We'll keep y'allposted. We'll stay locked in for any
breaking news or movements going down inLakerland in the NBA world. We are
officially in the all season folks,but the podcast are going to keep rolling
in. So appreciate y'all for rockingwith us on Late Night Lakes Show where
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Alex It's Ricky. We'll see y'allnext time. Peace,
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