EP 178 Lakers-Jazz Playback Stream 12.01.24

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, like it's about to start it Uh at decent time.
That never happens if.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
They have no they have nothing else to do. But
beyond time in Utah.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
I've been, Yeah, the stake. How's the arena.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Arena?

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Actually the view was great, had great seats. My work,
my company has a couple of offices out in Salt
Lake and I had a project, a project that I
needed to go out there for just so happened to
perfectly time up with the Lakers game.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
The arena is cool, but like, they don't have jumbo trons. Man,
they just got big ass TVs. You're lying like they
just they just flat.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Like they're just big, like flat screen Yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Like like two hundred and fifty inch TVs.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Like the sides don't connect.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
They're just four individual panels around and sponsored. It's uh,
you could see the sponsor there and they do like
displays and ship like that. So I'm sure they're based
in Salt Lake City. They got the contract and they
just not in the jumbo tron business. But we'll make
it a monitor however big you feel you need.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's crazy. How do you feel about our new starting line?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Though?

Speaker 4 (01:24):
I don't I don't feel about it, bro like with
you know, Gave has entered and when we want to
go ahead, I don't have any up in front of me.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Why don't you review our starters for the night? Ah
damn you? Okay, let me do a little Phillip talk.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Gave Max bron Ruey a D. I think that's what
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, and a D was upgraded to available tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
So with this uh left plant tar fasciitis and ar
with this uh Helvid contusion, Man, he should have I mean,
folks were saying he shouldn't have came back yes on
that game and man it was a flat tire out there.
But no, man, real quick, this is our first playback.

(02:14):
This is our first playback episode of the season. We'll
have this up on the podcast tomorrow. This is Ricky
and Kwame. If y'all don't already know. Shoot, I didn't
even post the link out, so if you're within the
group chat, you already are an insider. But I'll post
it here in a second on the Late Night Lak
Show Twitter feed.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
But no, just want to get into the swing of things. Man.
I feel like every time Kwame and I want to
do a playback episode and watch the game with y'all.
They're on the nationally televised.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Game, and I'm not just gonna talk to a blank
screen while watching the TV the whole time. So it
is good to get it out. Shout out to our
friends over at playback. We've had some talks with them
over the last a couple of seasons and wanted to
just make sure we were still locked in with them.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
But yeah, we're feeling man doing over there.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Man. I mean, obviously seasons have been a little up
and down.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
We struggled with injuries. Again, I feel like this team
is just never healthy, bro. Like that's we're constantly shuffling
our lineup.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
People are in and out.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Inconsistency and play inconsistency and energy.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Like I said, I feel like at our ceiling is
super high, but our floor is super low and.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
There's a lot of range in between.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
And I feel like we never know what kind of
Lakers team we're going to get out of this.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
So that's where I feel right now.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Otherwise, like I say, I think we're I feel like
we're in a better position that we have been, but
still there's work to do, and you know, I think
we do a good job of beating the teams we're
supposed to be supposed to beat, like the bad teams,
But when it comes to beating some of these top
teams and teams that are really hot, man, we just
we seem like we just can't quite hang the way
I expected us to.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
But I don't know, man, plenty of season left.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
You know, We're we're doing all right right now, three
games over five hundred, but it feels like there's still
something to be desired.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
You feel the same way, yeah, I mean for sure,
I think you look at it and it starts at
the top, right. I think anytime there are stretches where
the Lakers are not looking like the competent basketball team,
one of our top two guys historically haven't necessarily been there.
And I think this last stretch of games, the focus

(04:24):
has been on you know, Lebron James struggling in a
little bit of a run whatever you want to call it.
I mean, hell, people are already writing them off, saying this
is it, this is a sign, and you're done for
after this. But you know, I think with how seasons go, right,
you have ebbs and flows. I just hate that we're
kind of still like on par record wise with last year.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
To me, it just it feels more positive.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
It feels better as far as what we're seeing out
on the court, as far as like schemes and what
they want to execute.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
But like you said, there days where it just.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Looks like the Lakers don't give a funk about playing
basketball right, So that that is an effort thing and
if that can get corrected again, I guess you can
look at the head coach for for.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
A little bit of that blame.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
But at the end of the day, I think it's
pretty obvious Lakers aren't doing as well. Hell, last game
Lebron and ad were Hell's under twenty points.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
We're gonna loose.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
So these lineup ships, I think there's a lot of
conversations that we can have throughout this next hour about
what is the right lineup for the Lakers right now.
Dalton has re entered into the starting lineup, obviously I
think he is doing what needs to be done. Rui's
been back and forth, but it's like, all right, we
got a handful of games now, a third, not a

(05:44):
quarter of the way of the seasons under our belt.
What's shaken, what's our best lineups and you know what
we talk about every season, Kwami, what's the Lakers trade
targets going into the December? Uh no, where players that
were traded or signed can be available and in the
trade deadline that ever developing conversations about trade. So a

(06:08):
lot of doors right for us to explore. But I
definitely think right now, for me, at least, it just
points to effort and hey, our top two guy, isn't
he's in a little bit of a funk.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, I think that's fair.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I mean, you know, I mean, I'm sure we'll talk
about it at some point, but I think the demise
of Lebron is a bit premature. I think there's I
think obviously he hasn't been great, but you know, I
think it's overblown. I think sure he's played a little
bit careless, seems like his energy's low. He looks forty
more nights than he doesn't, especially in the recent history.

(06:46):
I mean, man, we came into this season and the
whole like, you know, coaching staff and everybody's talking about
how Lebron isn't going to necessarily be the focal point
in the offense.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Obviously it's supposed to be Anthony Davis.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I think some things switched when they moved lo out
of the starting lineup, moved him over to the bench.
Lebron got a little bit more ball handling duty, which
I don't think he was prepared.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
To do for the start of the season.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Obviously, he played over the over the summer of the Olympics,
so he didn't necessarily get to rest. I feel like,
coming off an Olympic run like they had and then
trying to play eighty two games is crazy.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
The guy is going to be forty years old this month.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
That feels insane to me to try and play all
lady to like, again, it's a marathon, not a sprint.
But then when you look at all, right, how do
we curb back Lebron's role, his minutes, whatever it may be.
The roster is severely lacking in supplementary pieces. Even our
lineup shifts, you know, I like movie Dalton into the
starting lineup to get him some more burn, get him

(07:42):
some shots, focused on getting him involved in a lot.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Of the actions.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
But then I look at at you know, Ruey in
the lineup, and when we don't focus on getting Ruey
the basketball, he doesn't really serve a lot of other purposes. Defensively,
you know, I feel like he gets lost a lot
more than other times. He's not you know, necessarily rebounding
with the same intendity. Sometimes feels like he lacks focused,
So then it feels like really feels.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Out of place in the lineup. So I don't know
if this is something.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
That does Vando fix, you know, does he come in
and get inserted in the lineup to add that defensive punch.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I just I just don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's why I get a little concerned about how you
make this team work. But ultimately, we just simply have
a personnel issue, and I don't know how we correct
that without a trade of some sort. But like I said,
I think, I think again, we went died this season
expecting Lebron to take an absolute back seat.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Did I expect it to be this much of a
backseat or just poor play? Definitely not.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
But again we saw at the beginning of the season,
when the lineup was the standard starting lineup with d
Lo in it, Lebron didn't have too much of the
ball duty, especially with the first unit. It's really Austin
second unit. You know, then he kind of jumped in
but yeah, it's I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
It's a it's an interesting situation, but unfortunately, I don't.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Know how we fix it and become contenders with the
roster as is, especially as unhealthy as we've been.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Well, I think there was the roster a couple of
years ago, or hell, it feels like every year you
go into the season and well, last season, it felt
like when the Lakers put together the roster, it's like,
all right, this this feels like a group that has
a little.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Bit of count of new with you.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
They're not making a whole bunch of you know, additions
were around the ages.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
We were favorable about the Gabe Vincent signing right and
what he could do.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
To the roster, and you know, having a healthy Van
Doh and really coming back after trading for him. It
felt like last going into last season, what's the first
time as R gets a nice dunk to start the game,
Lakers tied three to three assist from Lebron, it felt like, okay,
we just need some upgrades, maybe on the fringe. You
go into this season, though, bro it was obvious like

(09:45):
all right.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
We didn't make any moves.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, okay, So we're gonna make some trades starting December,
Like like, that's never. That's never the position you want
to feel about any sports team going into It's like, yeah,
we may not, you know, be ready to go, but
wait till we depend on other teams to make a
deal with us to improve our roster. Betty, yet depend

(10:08):
on our front office to make in season trades to
better our roster.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I feel I don't feel great about that.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
And I think we're starting to see some of those
pieces that should be expendable transferable, right and the reason
why they're already on the trade bark.

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Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, I mean again, like the mindset that you just
that you just stated right there, like hey, you know,
we're just gonna run into next season and you know,
hopefully something happens to our team wants to play ball
or this disgrunnled players and some players that didn't turn
out the way they thought their role would be and
they would come over to our team and you know,
have a better season or whatever it may be, instead

(12:00):
of going out and trying to do the work in
the off season, signing people whatever it may be. I
mean again, we heard the story, uh discount Lebron was
gonna get the Lakers and they can provide some way
to upgrade the roster, find somebody for the mid level exception,
and well I couldn't do it, or whatever may have happened. Again,
you know, I'm not here for speculation. A lot of
people will say that the discount was all fluff, it
wasn't even real, whatever you want to say. All we

(12:22):
saw was the results that the Lakers didn't sign nobody,
and we kind of just flipped the page and said
we're gonna run it back as is.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
And again we're seeing.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
The same roster deficiencies that we saw last year and
in the year before this. Where you know, what do
we do? Where do we get to a point where
enough enough? I need to be honest, like I said,
we lack. I think that the biggest things we lack.
I mean, we like a couple of things. We lack
a reliable backup big We lack perimeter defenders, and we
lack you know that we lack athleticism, especially in the

(12:51):
in the back court. I don't know how you show
all that up that that to me feels like several
trades that need to be made.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
I just don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
And that's where I get a little concerned where I
felt like we'd be a little better off this season,
but people just haven't performed the way we thought they
would have expected a max jump, We expected Gabe to
contribute something. We expected Vandal to play basketball, but none
of that has happened here.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Yeah, we expected Vandal to play basketball, and I think
he checks the box on as far as the athleticism,
athletic wings, and this roster looks different, rotations look different.
Maybe we don't see as much Dalton connect to start
the year because of kind of the pecking order between.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Van do O Ruy you know, and Dalton.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
As Dalton puts up and this is the three but
two four dollars, we'd like to say passes up for Lebron.
But so you know, I guess we'll never know as
far as Vanda was healthy and ship.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
But I don't know, man, It's it's the common.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
The theccumulation of all those things. And we'll see, you know.
I think there's a lot of seasons to be played.
Cande Lakers increase their ceiling with a trade, yes, but
as it stands right now, we're looking at four or five,
six seventeen.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I hope no, man, I'm tired of being in the
playing bucket. I know we haven't been like in a
normal situation. We're not a playing team. I hate having
to do the play and i'd like to be a
top six seed. We can, you know, get into the
playoffs again, I don't know. I don't know if this
team has the playoff chops that it's had the past
couple years.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Again, I think you avoid Denver.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I think we can really make some noise, But how
do we get out of this position of like you said,
the play in purgatory.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
It's gonna be tough, especially because you got teams that
like Houston and Memphis that are showing they're going to
be part of the conversation. I know Memphis has historically been,
but when job was out last year obviously changes the
dynamic of that roster. But hell, like again, this is
not the Eastern Conference. And I don't know if you
saw well they talking about the same fun conferences were

(15:04):
laying on the conference tip.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, these has been a little rough. I think they've
even out a little bit. It was pretty bad the
first three weeks of the season as we looked, but
I think it's even out a little bit. It's like
I said, man, there's no easy games in the West.
I feel like the Lakers have done a decent job
of winning the games they're supposed to and again they're
they're losing games they shouldn't. But I don't know, man,
It's it's it's still December, it's still relatively early in

(15:28):
the Season's still plenty of ground to make up. But
it's these conference games, these divisional wins. You want to
make sure you stack up and tie break your situations,
whatever it may be, to.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Avoid the playing.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
And you know, I think the biggest glaring issue with
this roster again along with you know, not having a
lot of you know, dirty work guys and lacking liable bigs,
athleticism in the backcourt, whatever you want to say, our
defense is bad and it's really hard to be successful
without having a good defense, and as constructed, how many defenders,

(16:01):
how many true defenders do we have on this roster?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Would you say.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Defenders? Anthony Davis? I mean Jared vander.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Jared Vanderbilt, right, they said games a scrappy defender, But
I don't see scrappy, do I see?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
He's just short. It's hard to be you could only
be so scrappy in like six to one flat. You
know what.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
He's trying, right, So I guess that gives you the
term scrappy Lebron and Dalton. That might be as as
Dalton surpassed Austin as Lebron's favorite white boy and the roster.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Maybe maybe maybe he might be on his way. He
keeps playing like this throughout the season.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
I think he might.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
I think, yeah, it feels like like.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
You know, I don't. I don't care to split hairs here. Hell,
I wish we had.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
I wish we said Caruso, Austin, and Dalton, right, I
which we had all three, but when just looking at
the play style, obviously two completely different players.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
And I think we love Austin.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
So much because you know, undrafted player, unsung hero, carved
out to be a great role player.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
On in the NBA. Do I think Austin will make
an All Star team? I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
He would have to probably have a crazy three point
shooting year, right, But he's a streaky He's a streaky player.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
He's part of tween Tween Nation, right, And you look
at Dalton.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Dalton's just if you leave any room, this bitch is
going up immediately, and those are kind of some of
the most Those are the players you have nightmares about
the most, right like tween tween at least the balls
in front of you. Yes, Austin gets great and ones
and makes his way to the rim with some of
the best of them. But when I look at Dalton

(17:54):
and just what he does for Lebron out there as
far as like all right, I need a bailout guy
just to put this bitch up. Oh, his main sleeping, clearly,
but he's hit over six threes at least twice this
season and maybe even three times, so tie the NBA
rookie record for threes in the game.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
And you know his draft selection, you would think that
the expectations would be, you know, a little bit higher
of the ceiling at.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
The end of the day.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
So I'm a big I'm a big Dalton guy. I
don't see him being a part of any packages going
out the door. So you know, my boy, Jonathan Hernandez
on the Lakers Legacy podcast Shout Out Johnny, he said,
he asked me, would I rather trade ar or Dalton?
And I think the answer is they are right now.

(18:43):
So yeah, so yeah, man, you know, I think him
being as bright as a light right now may also
be like we said, the result of the Lakers being
thinner than they want to be at the way.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, but he's he's performed well and like you said,
he's one of those guys that, like, you can't lose him.
He will put that joint up and he can get
hot very quick. What I also like is that he's
not just a shooter. He can put that ball in
the ground. You see him trying to what do you
try and throw down on.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
The other day?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Oh yeah, Hartstein.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, he tried to kill that man. That man landed
on not hurt his tailbone. Like connect will get up
and try and put people in the rim. And I
respect that he's a he's a big six six whatever
the hell he is. He looks big man and he
can get up a little bit. I like it. I
like that he's again he's not just a shooter. But
these the types of players I think Lebron really likes
to play with.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Thinking like j R.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Smith, do you think about Kyle Korpy, you think about some
shooters that he's had in his past. He likes the
guys that could just audition it to if he hits
you in the pocket, you know it's going up and
there's good chances going in. Help space the floor for him,
Help give him that space. I think it'll help a
d as well. So, like I said, he's a fantastic addition.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
I like him in the starting lineup. I have some
you know, I still some questions about his defense at times,
but it's undeniable what he brings on the offensive end
and the ability that it gives the offense to kind
of shift what they need to do. And you have
to pay attention to him again, you know, like he's
another dynamic scorer that can get hot very quick. You
can't lose track of Dalton. And when he comes off

(20:18):
the bench, he doesn't get enough touches, he doesn't get
enough opportunities, and on a play ram for him, whatever
it may be, it does feel difficult to bring him
off the bench as well as he's played. So, like
I said, man, I don't I don't know what this
team is gonna look like in two three months, but.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
We need something.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
We need something, definitely a travel Byron unless.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, but I think it's because he got fouled. They
just didn't call it.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Will do a whole other thing.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
I would love one of these young gen z niggas
to put together a compilation of just Lebron files I
never get called. Oh my god, there's twenty most egregious
files that did not get called on Lebron James.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
It was a bad one yesterday with lou Dorick straight
grabbed him and no call dog.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
It's nuts, it's crazy. And again the guy's forty years old.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yell at it right now, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Like, did he get a call?

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Man?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
How many free throws of Lebron James average? I'm gonna
look this up right now.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
You spent uh man, You've spent twenty two years, bro,
twenty one years, twenty one years asking where the files
are for Lebron.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
It's crazy. What is he? How many free throws does
he attempted a game? This season?

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Was far.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Four point six free throws a game, which would be
the absolute lowest of his entire career.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Honestly, he hasn't been He hasn't.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Gotten over six free throws a game since he's been
in Los Angeles. He hit six one time and that
was twenty one to twenty two. Otherwise, he's not shooting
that many free throws. There's a time of Lebron would
get temp free throws to night he was like Giannis.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Now now overlay that with Lebron's three point attempts per
game since coming to Los Angeles, as he averaged more
in any season except for his LA seasons.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
No, definitely not.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
I mean his highest season before coming to LA was
five flat and that was the last season he was
in Cleveland. Oh di lie, he had five point one
in two thousand and nine, but he only made like
he made less than two.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
So he was shooting like ass what bitches love?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeahs that championship No.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Championship year first in Cleveland though, but yeah, so, I
mean basically he shoots about five to six threes a
night twenty one to twenty two season.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
He pulled eight of them joints tonight. That's crazy. He's
he's been heaving for sure.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
But I think that's just the way the NBA has developed,
you know, just there just more shooting. You know, you
shoot more threes. Analytics change, you know, like I said,
it's first stint in Cleveland. You know he's shooting three
to four at night, which is very very mild. I mean,
you got guys, I think I saw Brandon Miller the
other day, or maybe it was even today, shot.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Like nineteen three point nineteen threes of the game.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
We're not playing basketball anymore, mans.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Me, thank you.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
It is me meeting up at UH at game Works
and doing them because they got the distance ones now
now they're not obviously three point just but they poper
shots evolving.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Bro you have to take your code off for these
pitches today.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
They know they know why. It's crazy, though. Come on, man,
that's too many threes man, Victor Webby, I wonder how
many he averages.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, yeah, let's get to it. Let's get to it.
Let me yes, let me yes, go Souse.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
I got to account for his pre when cop was coaching,
because Hop hasn't been around for a couple of games.
Maxi's floaters sound like breakings in the Northwest suburbs. Bro
Wenby averages four point three threes a game.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Four point three.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah you're saying, no, he averages six point four nine
point three. He shoots almost ten threes a night. Again,
that's I mean, I don't know man, for being that
tall shooting that that these threes.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
It feels like a waste of skill and talent.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
But I'm texting Roger right now. I will never forget
that episode.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Roger called me, you co signed two and that's okay,
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Sometimes nine is a bit much like I would have
I thought it would have been like five six, And
I even thought that was a lot damn near ten
a game.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Is we're not playing when the tallest man in the NBA,
he is probably taller than ninety nine point nine percent
of the world, and he is twenty six point three
feet away from the ten foot rim man. I don't

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know what kind of math trigger nometry we're doing in France,
but I wish my son would be averaging nine threes
a game, maybe at the Wyman.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
You don't give a fuck, right, do what you gotta do,
Like what Devin Book can you say?

Speaker 2 (25:10):
You know, I'm just trying to get my game in.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Right, I'm just working on my game when he got
double game Summer wreck.

Speaker 6 (25:15):
But Bro, if you play a basketball game and you
have to literally put a paper clip under your foot
to be able to dunk, what the what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
What are you doing outside the paint? Brother?

Speaker 4 (25:29):
And it's not a scheme thing, man, it is not
I don't care. I don't care what defense you're about
to say that. It's like, oh, we're gonna keep him
out of paint. No, you're not. What two three zone?
Two threes zone? Okay, you put someone under you can
still physically stand in the middle for three seconds. Put
your dmn ls's hands up, turn around, do a hook.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I got this math here home on a second, this
is crazy. Hold on, I'm looking at these stats, man,
I'll be honest, I don't even really understand why he
shoots as many threes as he does, because, like I'm
looking at like.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
His shooting splits.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
He shoots eighty two percent at the rim. I mean, granted,
I think they're almost all plunks. Three to ten feet,
he's shooting fifty percent. Ten to sixteen feet fifty percent.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
It's weird.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Those long tues he's shooting pretty bad, about thirty three percent,
and then threes he's also shooting thirty three percent. So
it's like the evidence is there, just stand in the paint.
But maybe he's shot. Maybe maybe he looks up to
Kristaps Porzingis. But Porzingis will post somebody up if you're little,
I'll be honestzing will post you up. If you're little,
he'll post you up. But he will also stand in

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the corner like a tall lamp and shoot threes. And
I don't I don't know if Victor's doing.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
But then we got too much kt.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I agree, Katie, don't shoot this many threes.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Though, No, no, Katie and mid range assassin.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
All right, hold on, let's see. I'm curious if he's
taking more shots in the paint or from three. He's
taking three more shots from three than anything below the
three point line.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Thisbbie, I said, just a couple of pods ago when
this number was starting to get alarm, and like, I can't.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I can't do it. Brother.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
If he needs the biggest hater, I volunteer at TRIBUTA. Wow,
I promise you he needs. Somebody's got a corral. This
shit is this makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Maybe you just don't want to get hurt. Man.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Maybe he's afraid of the physicality down low. He's a
bit frail. I mean, maybe he needs to buke up
a couple more and get his grown man, grown man body.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
I mean, think about this man. He's seven for three,
two and nine pounds the stick.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
He's skinny, bro. Maybe he just doesn't want to get hurt,
and hey, it doesn't matter. I'll tall you what if
you ain't got the what the old folks be saying,
they be calling him cakes.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
What they be saying, Yeah, you ain't got nothing.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, they ain't got nothing. The trunk man, he ain't.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Got nothing the trunk to be down there, man, he's
he's just a tall, skinny guy.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Man.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
So let him bulk up. Let him get to like
a two thirty two forty How heavy is ghanas all
heavy is Gianness?

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Gianna is two forty two.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (28:05):
He would need forty almost forty pounds to be honest's weight,
but he could use every drop of it. But yeah,
like I said, he so far he was advertised as
the honest you know KD hybrid.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
I'm only seeing KD. And also it's not even that
good of a KD.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
It's just right. I'll also say all of this, all
of this by prefacing.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
With yes, I think he'll be a Hall of Fender.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Oh, without a doubt.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Right, this guy's he's already probably the best defender in
the NBA by you know, a shot blocker, rim protector
in the NBA. It like effortlessly day one he was
He's probably.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
That, but like.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
We see all of these you know, the game evolves.
It's like, hey, who has pushed the game forward? You know,
you look at these different players throughout the history of
the sport and everyone was like, all right, Wenby is
the next iteration of the game. And you know, maybe
the young folks would be like, yeah, we never seen
anything like this, but like we've been around and watched

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this game enough to be like, oh no, this is
like he's.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
He grew up watching these players.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
This is who he wanted to be, and you can
see it reflected in his game. You see the KD
tell you folks will probably say this the Steph influence, right,
just by the volume of threes, right, But.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
There's no.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
And I'm sure there are some a lot of great
defenders that he watched as well. Offensive moves, bro, Like,
why why is there not? Like you're already on. Whatever
he does is pretty much unguardable. But I'm not I'm
not trying to harp on Wendy too much. I just
you know, we expect more of you, my friend brother.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
That's all great.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
JAG's down twenty two seventeen with two thirty two to
go in the first start, first play out of the
time out, this lebron ad that that goes.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Nowhere, but Jalen Hood Shaffino minutes.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
But I mean, is that what we're looking at right now?

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Now? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
That with my eyes are.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
He's two minutes, he's two thousand and two minutes at
a boy, So I mean, I guess he's using them.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Well, you don't appreciate good content like that.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
And then we have what rmel Troy or whatever his
last name is.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
I don't remember how to pronounce his name, the French
dude right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
He's in there hustling hard.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
But yeah, that's how you can tell we're kind of
running the skeleton crew tonight.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Man.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Outside of the starting lineup, where's Christian Cloco? He's not
doing too well? There is I guess AD is still
in the game, so he's probably his direct backup. Yeah,
we got Jalen Hood Shafino minutes. Let's see what you
can do on the NBA on the NBA floor. I'm
actually interested to see if other number seventeen pick that's
what he does.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
There we go, big three by.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
A D eighty three. There we go.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
How do you feel about AD shooting threes?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Again, I don't.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
But I also realized that if Ad don't get threes
up and makes them, he's a very mid type of player,
mid rangey and dunks guy. And you know again, he's
not KD with the mid rain, So the efficiency starts
to get a little spooky. So I hate him. I

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hate when he shoots threes, but I love when he
makes them. I guess what we guess where to describe it,
like like Ad, you're not them, like you're you're not
the big man three point shooters that I think we
thought you would develop into. But I understand why he
feels like he needs to take him you.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
I just think he just needs to be respectable. I
don't think he needs to you know, again, he doesn't
need to shoot nine a game. He's like Victor, No, no, no.
But I'd be okay with two or three threes a game. Absolutely. Again,
if he's open, I think he should shoot him. He
makes a couple, his whole game opens up. Now you
have to respect him out there, and I think any
any respect for a shooter on this roster will go
a long way. That's why I think the impact Adult

(31:58):
Connect has been so big, it's like, oh, ship, we
have to guards literally what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
So if Ad could give any semblance of.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
That, that's that's that's good for us, right sons.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
And that what Rob said about ACP, that's exactly what
it is with my man Lakers down four minutes ago
during the time out on the KWAMI about my redecorating
of the studio since my kids sucked it up. This
will be a second quarter conversation, but I definitely want

(32:33):
to get your thoughts on on uh, the Lebron rut?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Is it a rut? Is it.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Natural decline? Try I'm retired, starting to show a little
bit more or just you know, just whole part of
the season, and Lebron starts to ramp up when it's
when it matters most. But hell, I mean to be honest, man,
the Lakers aren't in a position right. The roster's not
in a position for to talk about when it matters most.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
All this shit we've seen, We said this for years.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
All these games matter, man, because we'll look back at
it and be like, damn, why are we fighting for
a playing games? Do you remember that Sunday in December
when they were just supposed to smoke the Jazz. They
were missing three players, but they went up fifteen in
the third quarter and then just shit the game, like, yeah,
that's the issue. And right now, I think someone brought

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it up. They said, you know, the Lakers front office
for years didn't believe that Lebron and Ad as the
two main focal points, were good enough to win the championship,
so they kept trying to remix it and remix it
to add a bigger name next to them, the Rushtraate
and things like that, when in reality, you just needed
to supercharge to support, right.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
You.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I think now we're at.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
The point where it feels like, Okay, Lebron plus Ad
is I don't want to say definitely not enough, Bro,
but I think it's it's pretty clear to me that
they need another big boy, not position wise, but stature
wise for this team to really take that next leap.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I would agree. I would agree.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I mean, I think there's more parody in the NBA
than probably ever before.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Well I feel like I said all times, so let
me not say ever before.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
But I feel like dynamic duos or big threes are
kind of a thing of the past, and I think
we saw that that last iteration kind of with the
that Brooklyn Nets team with KD.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Kyrie and James Harden, that that model doesn't really work
as easily.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
The new CBA has also made it very difficult to
keep a lot of really good players together. And again,
even if you look at the defending champion Boston Celtics,
you know, you look at that team and you for
years what they say, Jalen and Jason can't get done,
break up the Jays. But they kept them together, but
they had to add some other very good basketball players.

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You had Derek White, you had Drew Holliday, you add
Poor Zingis, you bring back Al Horford, Like that's a
well oiled machine, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
And again, do the Jay's obviously run the show. Do
they drive the engine? Absolutely, but they can't do it all.
And we saw it for years.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
They were unable to get over the hull, losing in
Eastern Conference finals, losing in the finals, getting beaten the
second round, whatever it may be. But we saw their struggles.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
As a tandem.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
And I think we're seeing that same thing happen over
the last several years with the Lakers team. Is that
we saw two guys kind of dominating that twenty twenty season.
But as the league has changed a little bit, the
CBA has changed a little bit, it's harder to retain
these championship teams. We've had a different champion every year
since what two thy eighteen, I want to say, I

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think every year it's been a different champion since, which
shows it's hard to keep teams together.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
It's hard to repeat. It's it's hard to do it
with the same team.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I mean, we saw johnas we saw what Yannis thought
we thought was gonna run the league for years. He
hasn't seen the mountaintop since it hasn't even gotten to
it hasn't even got to the conference finals.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Since it's not as easy as it looks. The league
has changed.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
So I don't, you know, I want to I agree
with you that I obviously these two just can't get
it done. Obviously, being older the way they are, they
need help, and they're gonna need even more help than
they need and needed in different previous iterations of the team.
But I I don't I don't think these guys can't
get it done. Like I said, I feel like we

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still when we still see them in high stakes games.
They can still perform, they can still do what they
need to do, but again, they can't do it all.
The league has moved past being able to do it
all with just a couple of guys. So I think
we need more people and we get it. I think offensively,
our team is actually really good on the offensive end,
but we have no defenders. We have no goons, we
have no thugs, we have no dirty work guys, we

(36:58):
have no Junkyard Doll. It's like we just don't have
those guys on a roster, and the one guy that
we had that we've been talking about for two years
can't get on the court. So, like I said, man,
I think it's a little overblown. We talk about you know,
this duo can't get it done. They can't get it
done by just throwing anybody there alongside them. You know,

(37:21):
this isn't the Lebron James teams of the East a
decade ago, where he was just able to go to
the finals with you, me and three homeless people off
the street. He's just not that way anymore. It's too talented.
Modern concepts, analytics have changed the game. There's so many
things that are just different. You need a full team,
and again, and a team, and again. You look at

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the several iterations of champions before. They had really good defenses,
really good wing players. We just we haven't been able
to shore up that crop of players since our own championship.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Nope, nope, nope. Oh you know, milk, this is what
we got. This is who we are. Dog fight with
the Utah Jazz heavily. What's wrong with you when they
say his injury was sick.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, got December flu or whatever. I don't want to
call it the flu, but you know, just some sort
of sickness. No game, Yeah, no flu, game for no flu,
game for love. Got Cloaco in the game. All right,
So this is our our backup. You know, this is
an interesting line up. I don't know if we've seen this.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
It's gonna be some scrappy scrappy's in the old Man.
Here we go, Yeah, this is Scoopy and all the
scrappy dudes.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
With that Dalton, Oh he ain't got it. We go
past Oh Bron bro Hey.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
He smoked his assists.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Hey watching Bron smokes some laymbs man be hurting because
he used to be the like the best finish shirt
the rib I've ever seen my title never been If
he was under the basket, it was a guaranteed two points,
and seeing him short sometimes it hurts a little bit.
The athleticism is definitely waned a bit, but like, yeah,
we've seen it for over the years. I mean, you

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know he doesn't get as high on his dunks. You know,
he's not jumping over people anymore. But like I said,
I think he still has a gear. That gear is
definitely not coming in December. I just we've seen it
for years, and I always think it's comical when you
see people complaining about like his time we had a shot,
we should take it, but I don't have one on hand.
But again, I I don't know why people still think

(39:24):
they're gonna see anything different from Lebron. We're gonna get again,
We're not gonna get a better, a better version of
Lebron each year as it goes by, like you have
to understand that you're not gonna get a better version.
We're going to get a worse version and a worse version.
But again, still, even as he is, you're telling me
how many teams.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Will want hold on?

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Wont his stats real quick?

Speaker 1 (39:42):
How many teams would love to have twenty two eight
and nine on forty nine point eight percent shooting teams.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Would you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (39:52):
And even though you know he is averaging about like
almost five turnovers a game, what they tell you when
you grow up in youth basketball, I guess you're not
a guard, so you and I know.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
I was basketball.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
You always want to have a two to one assist
to turnover ratio.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Right now Lebron has that. So is he really doing
that bad?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
It just looked bad these last couple of games because
the turnovers are uncharacteristic. They're like the jump pass turnovers,
they're the you know, just threw the ball out of
bounds turnovers, getting stripped on post up turnovers, or the
they're the like almost like the the brain fart turnovers
and not think those what are frustrating because it just
seems like this is so uncharacteristic for this guy.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Collapses, then then we're a customing. You're a customer too.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, And and again, I honestly do we chalk it
up to fatigue?

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Is he just getting old?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
It's probably the combination of and I don't think playing
Olympic basketball then trying to run this guy, you know,
thirty five minutes a night.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
What is he averaging right now?

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Thirty yeah, thirty five minutes a night.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Two yeah, drug man, drugs.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
That's just the personal like, and we just got to
keep it real, right, that's a personal goal of Lebron's
that the Lakers have to override.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
No, they got to override that ship man, tell him no, no, no.
But again, the hard part is do we have somebody
else know exactly? Who do we give the minutes to?

Speaker 3 (41:23):
One?

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Who do we give the It's not like you just say, hey,
you know Zach and Ad got it for a game, right,
it would be Anthony Davison like, yeah, Dalton and Ar got.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
It, or maybe Rui's got it. But I don't like, no, no, hey,
hey I.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Need a bigger name.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
You're going to tell me to go and take a break,
like just like with us recording, Like if Kwame can't record,
I'm not gonna record, right, I can't replace Kwame with
just did some bump off dream and be like, all right,
you're gonna be in the shotgun Seene.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
It's gotta make sense.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
This is not making sense to Lebron that someone's going
to say, hey, why don't you take the rest with
big fellas.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
You know, I think we both know.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Lebron has it on his goal list, Olympics all eighty
two game season Farewell Tour, so then he can look
back and say I did not even cheat the end
of my career at all. But it's insanity, like you said, drugs,
but he's allowed.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
He's allowed to take drugs. And this is my disposition, bro.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Maybe maybe some Lebron fans who are not used to
this era are still confused. But I've seen whatere we
are right now. I've seen this before with Kobe. I
know what era we are in for the Lakers basketball.
We are in the Hey, our best player who has

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given us a championship is out, is.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Starting to wind down in his career.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Maybe we make a drastic trade trade to try to improve,
but most likely we probably won't, and we will just
continue to uplift him, cater to him, do whatever he
wants to do besides break our neck in mortgage the
next three four years to get him possibly another championship run.

(43:25):
Because we don't really believe that that's where we're at
right now, that's what we're seeing it with being I
think we're seeing it with Lebron. Lebron I think obviously
had a much different caliber of competitiveness right now than
Kobe was when he was leaving out the door.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Kobe Man, Kobe went out.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
On the shield like that Bro that last game, Like
like if that, if that man would need to be
like stretchered out of the staples, I wouldn't have been surprised.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
But like Lebron, what'd you say twenty two to eight?

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Come on, like come on eight.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Nine, Stop asking fucking questions. Just say yes, sir, what
else do you need? You got it? If the trade
makes sense, we'll talk about it. But we're all so.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Dumb over here, but we're really good at giving farewells.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
I'm gonna be honest, Like, when I look at it,
my biggest fear is what does this roster look like
when Lebron is off of it? Like when he retires
it it's just Anthony Davis sitting here? Are we really gonna run?
Is the future really Anthony Davis Dalton connecting Austin Rees?

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Is that really the future?

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Other Max contract player? And I think, and I think,
then you have you have a core. You get somebody
that is twenty seven or younger. You you definitely have
a core eighties thirty thirty one. Maybe I think that's
good enough. And then you sayd Ad, hey, we got

(44:53):
your running mate. This is the guy that's going to
be our volume shooter. Fucking did you see what?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
What's that guy? And uh? He works the spectrum worthy
James Worthy.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Last game, he said, this has been abundantly clear to
me after this game that Anthony Davis is not the
guy that you just throw the ball to.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
And he said, move the fuck out my way.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
I mean, I think we've seen that first, do that
that for a while at least, right, I felt.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Yes, yes, And I think that was the crux of
crutz of a lot of Lakers fans frustrations with Anthony Davis, like, oh,
expect Lebron to carry the weight, but you can only
do it when you are going crazy in the first right,
Like so eighties my guy.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
You know how I feel.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
About him, Listeners know how I feel about him. But
when the Lebron era is over, if they want to
do right by a d they already have what that
contingency plan is that bucket of players that hey, Lebron
salary opened up insert x ym.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
They're smart, they do right now withould hope.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Shit, Lake's been acting like they've been preparing for the
post Lebron era for multiple years now. I hope that
continguency plan is nice and tidy these days.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Have you seen I don't know, man, I just haven't
seen evidence of the front office movie get back type.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Of calculated away.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
And like, again, I feel like we've had a window
that we talked about now. Is it is the Is
the window like marginally cracked at this point?

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Probably, but we've seen the window be pretty open and
there's still a reluctancy to make a move. So I don't,
like I said, I think again, it could be many things.
Are they afraid of how the Rush trade turned out
and not wanting to, you know, compromise another several year.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
It could be a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
But my thing is again, I think again, we see
that this roster has obvious issues. We know Lebron probably
has i'd say one more year left. I think he
just wants to grab the the longest career in NBA history,
twenty three seasons. Twenty three is his number, you know,
it's it's I think it just all kind of makes
the story look beautiful. What does this Maybe this is

(47:09):
Game's audition to get the hell off the team. Maybe
this is his audition. They're gonna show that he still
can play a little bit of basketball and we can
package him up and get him out there.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
You know, I was thinking that too. As soon as
they said he was started, I was like, great, go off, tonight,
go off. We need folks. We're just unfortunately not on
national television.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
It's a shame because I like Game Man, I like
Miami Heat Gabe, I love diaries like Mad Black Woman.
But it's it's not it has it hasn't been the
same thing. And it's like we saw with Kendrick Nunn.
See damn Ron, you missing the reverse layups.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Disgusting. But then we got to connect. There we go. Great,
great pickup, great pickup. I just wish the rest of
our roster.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
Yeah, that we was gonna have to hold up the
Lakers uh draft, uh draft the office draft team up
to the lights. If that was do the diamond tester
on the draft scouting department, Excuse me, that's what I
want to say.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Put the diamond tester up to the scouting department.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
After the Jayleno pick up and then hey.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Baby, he's getting burned to try and show some people
he could play to whatever it is, man, I know
what is it? December fifteenth? We can start shuffling some
names around. But how long does it take? How many
games till Rob makes the move? When it is a
good time to make a move? You know? Again, we
hear about Laker tax, we hear about this that the
third I feel like as a GM and she job
to get it done regardless of what's going on around you.

(48:36):
And I really need Rob to come through.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
I mean, am I the only person that wants to say,
fuck the tax? Pay the tax, pay the tax. Nice
shit is expensive?

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Yes, the fuck are we cheering for a team in
California for?

Speaker 2 (48:59):
You can't cry poor out in Cally And I know that,
I know that's blasting this.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
I know there's a lot of California folks that are
just you know, the hard working.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Folks is getting by like they can.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
But from a sports franchise perspective, you can't cry broke.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
You can't do it. You know who could cry broke?

Speaker 4 (49:16):
The Utah Jazz, the Milwaukee Bucks, Indiana Pace, San Antonio Spurs,
right the Charlotte Hornets, the largest economy in the United
States and the seventh largest economy in America, the largest
city in that state. No, I can't even say that.
San Diego County is fucking huge. So you get what

(49:37):
I'm saying. Lakers too fucking big to cry poor these days.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
So I agree, man, And you've obvious expirings on your books.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
You have to move those contracts. Hey, you have to
moved Lo. You have to move ja Jass You have to.
You have to. You have to otherwise they walk for nothing.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
Like why can't not like all these players that we
just let walk that ended up being productive members of society,
Like I get it. Hold on to Dalton Dan, hold
on to ar the rest you better have up there
for sale or sale.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Brother, I mean, look at this, So this is who
these are, all the expirings the Lakers are sitting on
right now. We got D'Angelo Russell, Christian Wood, cam Reddish,
Jackson Hayes.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
And Jalen Hood Schaffino.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
All those guys are all on expiring deals. You have
to move them again. If you want to keep one
or two church churches, sure, if you want to keep
one of the veteran minimum, guys like Jackson or Camera,
I guess even Christian sure, but the other guys have
to go a wait, we have Vandos signed so twenty
twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, you got a deal, bro.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
You didn't play the first two years of his deal.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
But yeah, like I said, we got some expirings on
the books here, man. I mean, when you look long term,
the only players that we really have long term are
Anthony Davis, Ruie sorry, not even Anthony Davis, Austin Reeves,
Jared Vanderbilt and Max, Max Christie don't connect, and then
Brownie James. Those are the only guys we have for

(51:16):
at least four more.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
Seasons that Max notification. It's don't hurt, but it's gonna
be okay.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I mean, I think it's a very tradable contract. I mean,
and Max, I mean he's making about seven MS a year.
He goes up to eight in two years. So to
be honest, it's not an unmanageable deal. It's it's a
very tradable contract. I think it's totally fine. It doesn't
it doesn't scare me a bunch. And again, if he
if he can ever give us the upside that we
were expecting He's actually on a very good deal. So

(51:43):
I'm not mad about Max. Thus far has he disappointed
me to start the season. Yeah, but he's only twenty
one years old. He's got some time to develop a
j right late, you know, so I think got some time.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
It's yeah, like when you look at this, we have
to make a trade.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
We have to for some reason, man, and we'll we'll
check back on it. Maybe it won't be covered on
the poot.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Maybe it'll just be me and you sitting at the
bar looking up at a random game. But for some reason,
I have a feeling Max Chris is gonna end up
playing for the Sacramento Kings.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
He feels like he fits that culture, that that that
uh you know that bold.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
I don't know something about it.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
I see it too, Max Christy, Doug Christie, the racially
ambiguous Blacks.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Yeah, wow, the racially ambiguous blocks.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
I'll take it, you know what. That's fine, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
I think it just feels right. I'll end up there,
so h.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Your old Dalton. Okay, he ain't got it yet, but
he'll get not yet.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Still, folks are stupid for not taking him.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
How many decent teams had a chance to get around, Like,
I don't see Dalton like ass team really look like
God or he won't be on that big of a stage.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
But I think it's because they were saying he was old,
because he's he was an old senior, like twenty three
years old.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
I don't think that's.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
An issue though again, like I think the issue is
to be honest, the player he is is probably the
player he is, Like how much better do you think
he's gonna get? I think that's probably what people saw
because he's not as young, he's not as much of
a raw prospect.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Maybe I don't know. I think they're full.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Okay, let's play this game.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
What percent do you think Dalton is of his full
NBA potential?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Probably forty offensive and defensively.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
I think he's shown some actually really solid playmaking chops
where obviously I don't think he'll be you know, Chriss
Cross Apple Sauce, but I think he could have a
little bit more of a ball handling. I don't see
him being like a standard just catch and shoot player
like a Kyle Korver, a JJ Reddick right, or even
like a Klay Thompson. I feel like he could do

(53:55):
a bit more by putting the ball on the floor
than we have yet to really see him do.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
And again, he has athleticism.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
I think he still has to grow in his decision making,
his playmaking, his defensive chops. But offensively, I mean, he's
got everything you can ask from a modern day NBA
player my humble opinion. But again he's still Again, he's
only twenty three. You have a lot of time to
work with them. So I like Daldon. I think he's
the brightest spot of our team out of the youngins.

(54:23):
Max is there. I mean, I guess we'll see what
Brownie James turns out to be. But yeah, Maxwell Lewis,
I guess it is still sitting on the roster. I
feel like he doesn't get enough burn. But I mean
maybe he doesn't deserve it. But yeah, so we're in
an interesting position. Oh jje Yes, look at that. They
let that man in the backcourt and told him to

(54:45):
get up the floor by himself.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
That's dirty. Come on, coach some some hell give him
a pass to throw too.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
That might be the end of my fantasy season. They
got Christian McCaffrey going down again. M Yeah, man, first
overall kick in my league.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Shouldn't have taken.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
And that's that's the name of the game.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
It is all right, Mac and jsays are sharing the
court together.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
And Troy or whatever.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
I don't know, no choice, but.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yep, with Tim, we're missing three guards AND's crazy the
team where we're so guard heavy. I guess he's still
a guards. Look, look we can put out here.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Yeah, on paper, I guess we do. We do.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
There's not a lot of great guards.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Yeah, Back is supposed to be another three in d guy,
you know, and he just hasn't hasn't quite panned out.
But again, twenty one years old, very young. I think again,
the team has some deficiencies that I don't think we
can just play play out of. As the season goes on,
we're gonna need to make some moves, and I hope
we make moves sooner than the trade deadline.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
We have to.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
I feel like there's not enough season left once the
trade deadline hits to really build that chemistry, that momentum.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
And I know we did it two years ago.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
We made it to the conference finals after making that
massive trade. We got Russe, all, we got d Lo
and all the boys in I get it. I don't
think I think that was just a very a unique situation.
I think that's not liar. I would love to make
a trade earlier, like how they did the Ruy trade.
Also two years ago, the guy just came out the
blue and like what like late January, February or something

(56:20):
like that. That felt good because that felt like okay, yeah,
joined the team, and then we.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Made another move.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
So, like I said, I'm just hopeful that something happens
because the team it feels like we're almost there, but
we'll never know what trade comes. Like I said, I'm
not really into listening to speculations. I can't remember the
last time we heard a deal that the Lakers were
thinking about making that they actually made.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Yeah, right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Like I feel like we weren't so many rumors, but
how many times the player that we heard we were
gonna get.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
We got I can't remember. Since Anthony Davis.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
I think that's what we talked about last time we
were on the pot with Jody. I think Anthony Davis
the last player that we got that we were rumored
to talk about that we actually got. Everybody else kind
of came out of left field, came out of the blue.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
If that tells you anything, I'm not paying attention to
none of them rumors, none of the trading out. When
it happens, it happens. I just hope it happens. That's
all I can say. I just hope it happensis.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
All right, Lakers Jazz, three minutes left in the half.
Jazz have a two point lead. It's now five, so
we're going to get out of here. We appreciate y'all
rocking with us for our first playback of the season.
We'll definitely be back on here with our guests to

(57:37):
pretty good, decent run through KWAM. I appreciate our combos
that we slid through tonight. We'll try to keep it
engaging for y'all. Add in so I don't know some giveaways, man,
We got plenty of merch giveaways these days, So make
sure you guys are stay tapped in with us. We
appreciate what you do. So Laker's gonna win this game.
They're gonna lose this game. Give me a score prediction report.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Lakers are gonna win one nineteen to one twelve.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Okay, uh, Lakers one o eight the Jazz.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
One oh four.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
We all appreciate you guys rocking with us the next time. Peace, Peace,