December 7, 2024 • 19 mins
00:30 About Nils
02:38 What is RYP
05:12 RYP is Great for Governance
07:33 Platform growth
11:06 Syndicating Content
14:37 Catalyst Proposals
19:56 Connect to learn more
02:38 What is RYP
05:12 RYP is Great for Governance
07:33 Platform growth
11:06 Syndicating Content
14:37 Catalyst Proposals
19:56 Connect to learn more
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On this episode, I have Nils joining me on the
show to talk through this really cool platform that he's
built RoIP and it has all these really cool features
for various projects out there, but also users and people
that are interested in what projects are doing in the
Cadano ecosystem. So Nil's welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hello and thank you. Peter.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Now, I've known you for quite a while, like we've
spoken on spaces, I've seen you about and whatnot, and
I guess i'd want a little bit of an introduction
for the rest of the community to know exactly how
you're involved within the Cadano space. So can get that
little introduction please?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah. Sure. So I've joined Cardano in early twenty twenty one,
around March, just when the ballmarket back then was starting,
and I was very drawn to the scientific approach and
the let's take things, you know, slow and right, which
you don't always see in the tech world, and that
was very interest to me, especially become I come from
(01:02):
a scientific background as well, and over the first few
months I was more or less a passive observer, but
fairly early I said hey, I could I could, I
could be a little bit more involved in the technology
and learn about it. How about a stake pool. So
I started running a stake pool, which then brought me
into the ecosystem even more. Now I wanted to engage
(01:24):
with the community and essentially started then kind of getting
into the NFT ecosystem and a bit, which brought me
to my first project, which was a discord solution for
community integration like NFT verification and things like that. And
the more I got into the ecosystem, the more connected
(01:45):
I became with a lot of projects that you know,
had issues they needed to resolve or that wanted to
do cool things, and the solutions for it just weren't
there at the time. So I kind of spread out
and talk started talking with like founding entities. I started
talking with small projects or with just people in the
(02:08):
ecosystem that are not building that just consuming the content
and the ecosystem and what kind of their challenges are.
And that's kind of how we got to today.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And I am certainly one of those people that consumes
a lot of the content or trying to find all
the sources of the information.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Gotcha, gotcha, you build a lot of content too, So
that's that's a doubly doubly hard thing then, because you've
got to know what's up and you want to know,
and then you've got to talk about what's up too.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So let's talk about this platform. Can you talk us
through exactly what you've built over the last year and
how it's going so far.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, so it's going great as in what we have
built for a prototype. This was a Catalyst funded project
and fund ten and it's been like in production use
as a prototype June and has been very going, very smooth.
So what is orop. OROP was born out of the
need for being informed without having to go where the
(03:10):
projects are. Right, a lot of us are busy people,
So I want to get my information in whatever my
channel of news consumptions. This could be. This could be Twitter,
this could be discord, this could be email. A lot
of us are busy. This could be your text you know,
your phone. You could want text messages that give you
update on certain things. And OROP was born out of
(03:33):
the need to get the information where I want instead
of what I've seen a lot of the ecosystem where
people say we're building the next Facebook, We're building the
Cardano we chat. So instead of trying to build a
platform where everybody goes. I decided I'd rather build something
where the information comes to where you're already at in
(03:53):
Web two, and instead the project just have a simplified
way of publishing their inform. At the same time, I
wanted to make it so that the projects don't have
to know exactly who they are talking to, because people
in Web three in particular, would like to remain you know,
somewhat anonymous often and so the ability to receive information
(04:16):
based on what I am interested in and what I
own that is another important part was kind of like
a crucial, crucial piece of the puzzle that makes out ROP.
So it's not an explicit subscription platform where you have
to say, Okay, I want a dooz. Okay, that's stay coool,
I want their news, Oh, I want the ndmaker's news
because you know I have their token, etc. Instead, you
(04:39):
just connect your wallet and the news for those projects
come to you, because we can confirm that you are
engaged with the projects by holding the token or by
staking with them. And then you can combine all that
with potentially explicit subscription management where you say, like in
this token I'm interested in, I don't have it yet,
but I would like to be in the know about
it as well.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's really cool. I didn't realize that it could detect
and work out, you know, where your state to or
what projects you might be interested in. So that's a
little bit of smarts in the background there. So I
really like that. One of the really useful things that
I found from the platform at the moment is everything
around the governance side of things. At the moment, any
time a brand new governance action that has been posted up,
(05:25):
I immediately get an email notification, and for me, email
is the best way of communicating with me. Open up
my emails in the morning and I can see a
brand new governance action is coming. And you know, I
think it's a brilliant way of communicating that to people
as well, because the current channels at the moment a
little bit comferssome Sometimes the website goes under maintenance, the
(05:45):
gov Tool's website, it's been under maintenance for a few
days now, so I can't see these governance actions come
to play. But your source, your website was the first
ping that I got about that the latest governance action.
So I think it's really cool, and so I love
the way that you put it together.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, I mean governance was kind of a late push
because essentially it wasn't quite clear when we would be
having our first governance hard work, and so the original
prototype didn't have governments even on on the radar like.
It was really designed for token based projects and stake
pools primarily because those were the pain points I was
(06:26):
hearing from the community and that I had myself as
a stackbol operator. And then governance came along and it
just looked like this perfect fit, especially as it was
just starting, so we weren't jumping into the deep end
and have to support like fifteen hundred different situations, but
instead it started out very, very small, and so it
(06:46):
was fairly easy to get started and see is this
useful for people? You know, do people benefit from it?
And what do they want more with respect to governance.
So there's a lot of cool stuff we were able
to add in a short time, and it enabled me
to kind of be in the know about governance as well.
So how does it work? So I did a lot
of research, got help from Mike Cornyn from Ablepool who
(07:11):
walked me through a lot of the governance pieces and
he's got some great infographics that are consumed and was
able to kind of apply that knowledge for the rop
governance pieces.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
That's awesome. Yes, Mike is definitely a good source of
information around the government side of things, and if anyone
wants any more information about that, so I'll put links
down below as well. Now, how are you finding the
growth of the platform? Like, there's there's two sides to it.
One side, projects and state pools needing to sign up
and post up information. And then the other side, the
(07:46):
consumer side, users in the Candona ecosystem signing up and
subscribing to some of these platforms and products that are building.
How are you finding the growth so far?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's a mixed bag. So I think the best opportunity
for growth. Funny enough, I saw that opportunity because there
was interest through governance. I got a lot of people
on board that were primarily coming just for the like
staying in the know about what's going on on chain,
and I think that broad in a decent amount of
users because for governance to happen, you do not have
(08:21):
to have a project on the other side that's active
within ROYP. It's just things that happen on chain. While
when you are talking about project announcements. There are some
capabilities of ROYP, like, for example, an announcement of automatic retirement.
When your stakepool retires, you get a notification, So that
(08:42):
is a big challenge. People have to be like kind
of letting their aida just sit there, but then hey,
if my stakepooled tires, I would like to know immediately
so I can redlegate. So those are some of the
activities that are beneficial for users just by being registered,
so we have a higher influx of users and that's
been very great. On the other side, the harder part
(09:04):
is getting projects to come on board test the platform.
It's currently completely free. I'm going to look to productize
this in the upcoming catalyst, but essentially, if you don't
have any publishing projects, then there isn't a lot of
value for the users. So we had a beta program
and we had some really great feedback there and some
projects come on board, but it's currently still a struggle
(09:28):
to get new projects to publish news. Primarily it's spos
and de reps in fact, but token based projects can
get a lot of value out of the platform, and
that's kind of where I also fall a little bit
short in terms of outreach because we don't have that much.
We don't have that much people on the project. So
with that being said, I really would need somebody who
(09:49):
reaches out to projects and kind of shows the value.
And that's kind of I think one of the items
that we have on our list for the future as
we think quite.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
A real rollout, right, col I thought, with you know
Hazelbot and your connection with all the people that are
using that for verifications on discord, that you may have
built up a good list of projects that could have used.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Definitely there's yeah, there's not a lack of list of
projects that might benefit from it. It is really a
time constraint situation as well for me as well as them,
right because for they they also need to connect their
project and then find the time to learn how does
it work? As well as there is this chicken and
(10:35):
egg problem. If you don't have enough users, then what's
the value in publishing here? But if you don't have
any projects, what's the as a user the value to
even go onto the platform. It's one of the reasons
why I then focused on things that can happen without
projects being there. That's the governance, that's the spo stuff
and we're looking at, you know, a lot more that
(10:56):
can just be useful simply by having an account and
you don't even need to worry if there's projects on
the other side publishing.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Okay, that makes sense, that is very cool. Have you
thought about potentially syndicating or pulling in feeds from the
various projects that do post medium articles or blog posts
on their own website that for me, for example, I
set up Cadino Press through RYP, but I forget to
(11:26):
come into the platform to post that information. But I
do post information on my own blog or even in
the forums. So and they all have RSS feeds, but
that potentially be pulled in to automate some of this
process and reduce the load on the projects need to
come back in.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, exactly, that's one of our It wasn't part of
the prototype. I don't think even it's in the specific
roadmap for the Catalyst proposal, but it is on the
list for my personal roadmap. Two major capabilities that would
like to add. One is kind of automatic detection of announcements,
so you could connect you know, your Twitter account. If
(12:05):
you can verify you own the Twitter account, I can
connect your Twitter account and essentially when you then connect
your project's account and you post something, the system could
pick that up and could reshare this information. We could
use AI to even you know, change the scope. Like
let's say you want to expand you have a short tweet,
but you want the ROP announcement to be expanded a
(12:28):
little bit. You could even automatically do that. And obviously,
you know vice versa two. If you would prefer a
shorter version of your announcement, maybe you have a medium article,
you probably don't want to send the whole medium article
as a discord message, also because the different systems have
size limitations, and so instead, you know, there could be
a summary of what is there and then the other
(12:50):
piece which you mentioned earlier. The emails is almost like
an automatic newsletter. Right as you are a project, you
publish and publish, and maybe you have like ten postings today,
and maybe as an end user, I'm more interested in like, okay,
just give me the scoop, right, I don't need to
read ten messages and like bing bing. Instead, I'd rather like,
(13:11):
at the end of the day, just send me what's
up in the ecosystem. And currently there's a lot of
good people out there that are kind of collecting that
information you yourself included, and then aggregating it and summarizing
it for the average Joe. But obviously, if we have
some automated solutions, especially with so many things in the
(13:33):
ecosystem growing so fast, it's a way for end users
to just keep up with their specific things that they're
interested in, and so summary emails or digests or weekly
newsletters automatically generated from the content are also on the list,
which ties in a little bit of that.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I was probably jumping the gun a bit asking for
new features and whatnot that No, I love it.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I love it because again it just shows me, hey,
this would be great. And I've had this with Vibrant too,
where people would say like, hey, I have an idea,
and I know it's probably super crazy, but could we
do this? And then I'm like, it's not super crazy.
You're the fourth person in a week that has you know,
has proposed this. So it's good to hear from others like, oh, yeah,
(14:17):
this would be great, this would be useful, because I
do want to make sure that we build things that
are useful for the people on Cardano and not oh
I have an idea, let me put it out there
and then crickets because it's not as useful as I
thought it might have been.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yep, yep. You've got to build for the user, not
for what you think might be a good feature.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So you do have a catalyst proposal in FUN thirteen,
and this is about the future development and what you're
going to include and build and whatnot. What's in it.
So this is probably a clear roadback of what you
want built. So yeah, some of details about definitely, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So the fund thirteen proposal, the prime primary goal is
to kind of round out what is orop Again, the
initial proposal was a prototype. The prototype has been super stable,
and I've spent a lot of time making a website
that isn't just prototype but actually usable and kind of
accessible for people. It's responsive, works on mobile, etc. So
(15:17):
that users can again go where the're needed because a
lot of us are on our phones these days. And
with the fund thirteen proposal, there is actually a set
of goals. It's not just one thing, because we've identified
a few trends and situations and issues in this system
that we want to help solve. So one of the
issues that we are seeing is again it goes back
(15:40):
to the adoption that the getting to the user is
the ideal place where you connect your account and get
notifications or get informed that there are notifications to be
had would be with wallets, but the wallets they would
have to build integrations and they probably have to build
custom integrations for OROP. So one of our goals, one
of our items on the list for fun thirteen is
(16:01):
building an infrastructure that lets wallet providers just simply connect
to ourip and that way, not only could you be
informed about the fact that there is a system to
connect to, but the wallets themselves, especially mobile wallets like
Vesper or Tokyo, they could just connect to ourip and
(16:21):
then consume the information. Similar to what you said for
the syndication for our SS feeds, if we just send
an announcement as a project to our token holders and
that can pop up in the wallet as a notification.
And so we want to build an infrastructure to allow
wallet providers to opt into that because they have a
lot of things to do, and if they can not
(16:43):
have to do all of it, because there isn't a
lot of financial incentive for a lot of the wallets,
then that's useful and people get consistent messaging right then
it's the same way regardless of which wallet you have.
That's one of our goals. Another one of our goals
is quick pulling. I'll call it. It's sentiment gathering. When
(17:04):
you get a discord message and maybe even when you
get an email you can see this too, or on telegram.
Oftentimes emails have like quick ways to respond and say
like I like this or I don't write reactions and
discord are an example, and telegram you have something similar
and on emails usually as a link like do you
like us? And then there's like five buttons from one
(17:25):
to five stars, something like that. And integrating that into
messages for governance as well as for projects is a
very helpful method to gather sentiment quickly. So now I
can send out my hey, we have a raffle going on,
and you can just you know, give a thumbs up
and realize, oh, people have a positive reaction to this.
(17:46):
Or if you're a d rep who announces they're voting
a certain way, then they can get sentiment pulling as well,
really built into the system and collect it over there.
You tie that in with your Twitter integration, that becomes
really powerful another project to project communications is very interesting
(18:07):
to us. So one of the challenges in this decentralized
economy when we had the hard Fork for Chang which
which essentially was a huge undertaking and projects had a
hard time not just reaching out to their people. But
if you're thinking about MBOs like INTERSECT and the founding
entities and all the tool providers and ecosystem builders them
(18:31):
coordinating certain things or knowing when certain things happening. Currently
the goal, the idea is just go to the Intersect
discord and then get your info there, but that repeats
the exact same problem that I've already seen with NFT
projects and stakeholds. So project to project communication, so that
INTERSECT can go and say I would like to write
(18:52):
all builders out of a certain category this news and
so that is another piece on the on the roadmap
that we have for the fun thirty proposal. There's more.
I don't know how much in depth, you know how
much you want me to rattle off some of the
feedback and ideas we've gotten from people.
On this episode, I have Nils joining me on the
show to talk through this really cool platform that he's
built RoIP and it has all these really cool features
for various projects out there, but also users and people
that are interested in what projects are doing in the
Cadano ecosystem. So Nil's welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hello and thank you. Peter.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Now, I've known you for quite a while, like we've
spoken on spaces, I've seen you about and whatnot, and
I guess i'd want a little bit of an introduction
for the rest of the community to know exactly how
you're involved within the Cadano space. So can get that
little introduction please?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah. Sure. So I've joined Cardano in early twenty twenty one,
around March, just when the ballmarket back then was starting,
and I was very drawn to the scientific approach and
the let's take things, you know, slow and right, which
you don't always see in the tech world, and that
was very interest to me, especially become I come from
(01:02):
a scientific background as well, and over the first few
months I was more or less a passive observer, but
fairly early I said hey, I could I could, I
could be a little bit more involved in the technology
and learn about it. How about a stake pool. So
I started running a stake pool, which then brought me
into the ecosystem even more. Now I wanted to engage
(01:24):
with the community and essentially started then kind of getting
into the NFT ecosystem and a bit, which brought me
to my first project, which was a discord solution for
community integration like NFT verification and things like that. And
the more I got into the ecosystem, the more connected
(01:45):
I became with a lot of projects that you know,
had issues they needed to resolve or that wanted to
do cool things, and the solutions for it just weren't
there at the time. So I kind of spread out
and talk started talking with like founding entities. I started
talking with small projects or with just people in the
(02:08):
ecosystem that are not building that just consuming the content
and the ecosystem and what kind of their challenges are.
And that's kind of how we got to today.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And I am certainly one of those people that consumes
a lot of the content or trying to find all
the sources of the information.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Gotcha, gotcha, you build a lot of content too, So
that's that's a doubly doubly hard thing then, because you've
got to know what's up and you want to know,
and then you've got to talk about what's up too.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So let's talk about this platform. Can you talk us
through exactly what you've built over the last year and
how it's going so far.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, so it's going great as in what we have
built for a prototype. This was a Catalyst funded project
and fund ten and it's been like in production use
as a prototype June and has been very going, very smooth.
So what is orop. OROP was born out of the
need for being informed without having to go where the
(03:10):
projects are. Right, a lot of us are busy people,
So I want to get my information in whatever my
channel of news consumptions. This could be. This could be Twitter,
this could be discord, this could be email. A lot
of us are busy. This could be your text you know,
your phone. You could want text messages that give you
update on certain things. And OROP was born out of
(03:33):
the need to get the information where I want instead
of what I've seen a lot of the ecosystem where
people say we're building the next Facebook, We're building the
Cardano we chat. So instead of trying to build a
platform where everybody goes. I decided I'd rather build something
where the information comes to where you're already at in
(03:53):
Web two, and instead the project just have a simplified
way of publishing their inform. At the same time, I
wanted to make it so that the projects don't have
to know exactly who they are talking to, because people
in Web three in particular, would like to remain you know,
somewhat anonymous often and so the ability to receive information
(04:16):
based on what I am interested in and what I
own that is another important part was kind of like
a crucial, crucial piece of the puzzle that makes out ROP.
So it's not an explicit subscription platform where you have
to say, Okay, I want a dooz. Okay, that's stay coool,
I want their news, Oh, I want the ndmaker's news
because you know I have their token, etc. Instead, you
(04:39):
just connect your wallet and the news for those projects
come to you, because we can confirm that you are
engaged with the projects by holding the token or by
staking with them. And then you can combine all that
with potentially explicit subscription management where you say, like in
this token I'm interested in, I don't have it yet,
but I would like to be in the know about
it as well.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's really cool. I didn't realize that it could detect
and work out, you know, where your state to or
what projects you might be interested in. So that's a
little bit of smarts in the background there. So I
really like that. One of the really useful things that
I found from the platform at the moment is everything
around the governance side of things. At the moment, any
time a brand new governance action that has been posted up,
(05:25):
I immediately get an email notification, and for me, email
is the best way of communicating with me. Open up
my emails in the morning and I can see a
brand new governance action is coming. And you know, I
think it's a brilliant way of communicating that to people
as well, because the current channels at the moment a
little bit comferssome Sometimes the website goes under maintenance, the
(05:45):
gov Tool's website, it's been under maintenance for a few
days now, so I can't see these governance actions come
to play. But your source, your website was the first
ping that I got about that the latest governance action.
So I think it's really cool, and so I love
the way that you put it together.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, I mean governance was kind of a late push
because essentially it wasn't quite clear when we would be
having our first governance hard work, and so the original
prototype didn't have governments even on on the radar like.
It was really designed for token based projects and stake
pools primarily because those were the pain points I was
(06:26):
hearing from the community and that I had myself as
a stackbol operator. And then governance came along and it
just looked like this perfect fit, especially as it was
just starting, so we weren't jumping into the deep end
and have to support like fifteen hundred different situations, but
instead it started out very, very small, and so it
(06:46):
was fairly easy to get started and see is this
useful for people? You know, do people benefit from it?
And what do they want more with respect to governance.
So there's a lot of cool stuff we were able
to add in a short time, and it enabled me
to kind of be in the know about governance as well.
So how does it work? So I did a lot
of research, got help from Mike Cornyn from Ablepool who
(07:11):
walked me through a lot of the governance pieces and
he's got some great infographics that are consumed and was
able to kind of apply that knowledge for the rop
governance pieces.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
That's awesome. Yes, Mike is definitely a good source of
information around the government side of things, and if anyone
wants any more information about that, so I'll put links
down below as well. Now, how are you finding the
growth of the platform? Like, there's there's two sides to it.
One side, projects and state pools needing to sign up
and post up information. And then the other side, the
(07:46):
consumer side, users in the Candona ecosystem signing up and
subscribing to some of these platforms and products that are building.
How are you finding the growth so far?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's a mixed bag. So I think the best opportunity
for growth. Funny enough, I saw that opportunity because there
was interest through governance. I got a lot of people
on board that were primarily coming just for the like
staying in the know about what's going on on chain,
and I think that broad in a decent amount of
users because for governance to happen, you do not have
(08:21):
to have a project on the other side that's active
within ROYP. It's just things that happen on chain. While
when you are talking about project announcements. There are some
capabilities of ROYP, like, for example, an announcement of automatic retirement.
When your stakepool retires, you get a notification, So that
(08:42):
is a big challenge. People have to be like kind
of letting their aida just sit there, but then hey,
if my stakepooled tires, I would like to know immediately
so I can redlegate. So those are some of the
activities that are beneficial for users just by being registered,
so we have a higher influx of users and that's
been very great. On the other side, the harder part
(09:04):
is getting projects to come on board test the platform.
It's currently completely free. I'm going to look to productize
this in the upcoming catalyst, but essentially, if you don't
have any publishing projects, then there isn't a lot of
value for the users. So we had a beta program
and we had some really great feedback there and some
projects come on board, but it's currently still a struggle
(09:28):
to get new projects to publish news. Primarily it's spos
and de reps in fact, but token based projects can
get a lot of value out of the platform, and
that's kind of where I also fall a little bit
short in terms of outreach because we don't have that much.
We don't have that much people on the project. So
with that being said, I really would need somebody who
(09:49):
reaches out to projects and kind of shows the value.
And that's kind of I think one of the items
that we have on our list for the future as
we think quite.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
A real rollout, right, col I thought, with you know
Hazelbot and your connection with all the people that are
using that for verifications on discord, that you may have
built up a good list of projects that could have used.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Definitely there's yeah, there's not a lack of list of
projects that might benefit from it. It is really a
time constraint situation as well for me as well as them,
right because for they they also need to connect their
project and then find the time to learn how does
it work? As well as there is this chicken and
(10:35):
egg problem. If you don't have enough users, then what's
the value in publishing here? But if you don't have
any projects, what's the as a user the value to
even go onto the platform. It's one of the reasons
why I then focused on things that can happen without
projects being there. That's the governance, that's the spo stuff
and we're looking at, you know, a lot more that
(10:56):
can just be useful simply by having an account and
you don't even need to worry if there's projects on
the other side publishing.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Okay, that makes sense, that is very cool. Have you
thought about potentially syndicating or pulling in feeds from the
various projects that do post medium articles or blog posts
on their own website that for me, for example, I
set up Cadino Press through RYP, but I forget to
(11:26):
come into the platform to post that information. But I
do post information on my own blog or even in
the forums. So and they all have RSS feeds, but
that potentially be pulled in to automate some of this
process and reduce the load on the projects need to
come back in.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, exactly, that's one of our It wasn't part of
the prototype. I don't think even it's in the specific
roadmap for the Catalyst proposal, but it is on the
list for my personal roadmap. Two major capabilities that would
like to add. One is kind of automatic detection of announcements,
so you could connect you know, your Twitter account. If
(12:05):
you can verify you own the Twitter account, I can
connect your Twitter account and essentially when you then connect
your project's account and you post something, the system could
pick that up and could reshare this information. We could
use AI to even you know, change the scope. Like
let's say you want to expand you have a short tweet,
but you want the ROP announcement to be expanded a
(12:28):
little bit. You could even automatically do that. And obviously,
you know vice versa two. If you would prefer a
shorter version of your announcement, maybe you have a medium article,
you probably don't want to send the whole medium article
as a discord message, also because the different systems have
size limitations, and so instead, you know, there could be
a summary of what is there and then the other
(12:50):
piece which you mentioned earlier. The emails is almost like
an automatic newsletter. Right as you are a project, you
publish and publish, and maybe you have like ten postings today,
and maybe as an end user, I'm more interested in like, okay,
just give me the scoop, right, I don't need to
read ten messages and like bing bing. Instead, I'd rather like,
(13:11):
at the end of the day, just send me what's
up in the ecosystem. And currently there's a lot of
good people out there that are kind of collecting that
information you yourself included, and then aggregating it and summarizing
it for the average Joe. But obviously, if we have
some automated solutions, especially with so many things in the
(13:33):
ecosystem growing so fast, it's a way for end users
to just keep up with their specific things that they're
interested in, and so summary emails or digests or weekly
newsletters automatically generated from the content are also on the list,
which ties in a little bit of that.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I was probably jumping the gun a bit asking for
new features and whatnot that No, I love it.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I love it because again it just shows me, hey,
this would be great. And I've had this with Vibrant too,
where people would say like, hey, I have an idea,
and I know it's probably super crazy, but could we
do this? And then I'm like, it's not super crazy.
You're the fourth person in a week that has you know,
has proposed this. So it's good to hear from others like, oh, yeah,
(14:17):
this would be great, this would be useful, because I
do want to make sure that we build things that
are useful for the people on Cardano and not oh
I have an idea, let me put it out there
and then crickets because it's not as useful as I
thought it might have been.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yep, yep. You've got to build for the user, not
for what you think might be a good feature.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So you do have a catalyst proposal in FUN thirteen,
and this is about the future development and what you're
going to include and build and whatnot. What's in it.
So this is probably a clear roadback of what you
want built. So yeah, some of details about definitely, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So the fund thirteen proposal, the prime primary goal is
to kind of round out what is orop Again, the
initial proposal was a prototype. The prototype has been super stable,
and I've spent a lot of time making a website
that isn't just prototype but actually usable and kind of
accessible for people. It's responsive, works on mobile, etc. So
(15:17):
that users can again go where the're needed because a
lot of us are on our phones these days. And
with the fund thirteen proposal, there is actually a set
of goals. It's not just one thing, because we've identified
a few trends and situations and issues in this system
that we want to help solve. So one of the
issues that we are seeing is again it goes back
(15:40):
to the adoption that the getting to the user is
the ideal place where you connect your account and get
notifications or get informed that there are notifications to be
had would be with wallets, but the wallets they would
have to build integrations and they probably have to build
custom integrations for OROP. So one of our goals, one
of our items on the list for fun thirteen is
(16:01):
building an infrastructure that lets wallet providers just simply connect
to ourip and that way, not only could you be
informed about the fact that there is a system to
connect to, but the wallets themselves, especially mobile wallets like
Vesper or Tokyo, they could just connect to ourip and
(16:21):
then consume the information. Similar to what you said for
the syndication for our SS feeds, if we just send
an announcement as a project to our token holders and
that can pop up in the wallet as a notification.
And so we want to build an infrastructure to allow
wallet providers to opt into that because they have a
lot of things to do, and if they can not
(16:43):
have to do all of it, because there isn't a
lot of financial incentive for a lot of the wallets,
then that's useful and people get consistent messaging right then
it's the same way regardless of which wallet you have.
That's one of our goals. Another one of our goals
is quick pulling. I'll call it. It's sentiment gathering. When
(17:04):
you get a discord message and maybe even when you
get an email you can see this too, or on telegram.
Oftentimes emails have like quick ways to respond and say
like I like this or I don't write reactions and
discord are an example, and telegram you have something similar
and on emails usually as a link like do you
like us? And then there's like five buttons from one
(17:25):
to five stars, something like that. And integrating that into
messages for governance as well as for projects is a
very helpful method to gather sentiment quickly. So now I
can send out my hey, we have a raffle going on,
and you can just you know, give a thumbs up
and realize, oh, people have a positive reaction to this.
(17:46):
Or if you're a d rep who announces they're voting
a certain way, then they can get sentiment pulling as well,
really built into the system and collect it over there.
You tie that in with your Twitter integration, that becomes
really powerful another project to project communications is very interesting
(18:07):
to us. So one of the challenges in this decentralized
economy when we had the hard Fork for Chang which
which essentially was a huge undertaking and projects had a
hard time not just reaching out to their people. But
if you're thinking about MBOs like INTERSECT and the founding
entities and all the tool providers and ecosystem builders them
(18:31):
coordinating certain things or knowing when certain things happening. Currently
the goal, the idea is just go to the Intersect
discord and then get your info there, but that repeats
the exact same problem that I've already seen with NFT
projects and stakeholds. So project to project communication, so that
INTERSECT can go and say I would like to write
(18:52):
all builders out of a certain category this news and
so that is another piece on the on the roadmap
that we have for the fun thirty proposal. There's more.
I don't know how much in depth, you know how
much you want me to rattle off some of the
feedback and ideas we've gotten from people.
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