Legends Library: The Tenebrous Way

Legends Library hosts Liisa and Kyle delve into The Tenebrous Way by Matthew Stover, a short story that featured in Star Wars Insider 130. Darth Tenebrous, a Bith also known as Rugess Nome, with his apprentice Plagueis in 67 BBY go to the world Bal'demnic to investigate a lode of cortosis ore, but meets his namesake, darkness. These events took place also in the book Plagueis by James Luceno.

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You're listening to Legends Library. Nowhere's your host. He's a mountaineer and
Kyle rawlins. Hi, everybody,I'm Lisa and I'm Kyle, and you're

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listening slash watching to Legends Library.We are a podcast dedicated to the Legends
line of the Star Wars books andthe expanded universe. And we have returned.
Yay. We finally have managed toget Kyle back in the recording chair.
He has been extremely busy with supernaturalencounters, which he'll kind of give

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you a guys an update about it. I've been personally, I kind of
vapor gas myself recently, so Ihave been unable to talk for a little
while, and I'm still kind ofliving with the consequences. You might hear
it in the recording where my voiceis a smith's different and I may not

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be able to breathe all the time. Life is but so yeah, so
I also do just wanted to givea quick little shout out to a friend
of mine, Kyle. You don'tknow him, but he's one of our
regular listeners. My friend Pat whohas been in the hospital. He went

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into a coma and broke his hampand has had a stroke. And I
just I you know, Pat,we're all thinking of you and I appreciate
that you're always here. And whenI went and visited in a hospital,
he asked if we had made anothernew videos. I said, not yet,
Pat, but so here we aretoday the hi Hi to you,

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Patkay, Willy Will Pat So Kyle, if you can give us a bit
of an update on what's going onwith Supernatural Encounter. Um, well it's
at the presses, so party time, yes, Um, after several um

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mitigations that had to be made,Um, everything's going to press. So
it was currently looking over the softand hardcover editions like the prototype so to
speak, um, working out anyother kind of things as far as certain
lighting and the artwork all that.It's down to those details. But the

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prototypes are there, and uh soonce once he works out what's what remains,
then it's it's on the shooting forthat that March release. Okay,
yeah, if not April. Asfar as like how however fast the mail
system works, then that's going tobe determining all that. But yeah,

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it's gonna go around the globe course. Yeah. Yeah, whoever has ordered
a copy. I know that Joeand I because I've talked to him occasionally,
you know, Um, we talkedabout getting an addition created for the
Legends con So he's going to makesome you know, paper jackets and everything
for a special edition. So that'sthe one that I said, please,

(03:20):
can't you reserve that one for me? Because I want that one with our
lovely logo on it. So yeah, I'm pretty excited. But what are
some details you can give us aboutSupernatural Encounters now that it's so close to
being available for everyone. Not asmuch as you would hope, I'm sure.

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Um, as far as the timethat is taken, Um, we've
had to go through it a lot, and and once once you I guess
as far as what I got someroundabout way of saying to everybody, who's
the best of their time and effortsand excitement, and is it when it
arrives, it's going to be damnme or perfect I mean really tried.

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Yeah, and every detail is goingto show and it's coming up pretty soon.
So I'm hoping the world's excited.I'm excited. Remind people kind of
just the timelines in the book.Um, we're talking uh um after darkness

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coming up on Bay of the Jedi, and there's that period as far as
the present and then it dances.It's actually as far as the timeline of
the book. We're we're talking likeancient times too. Um. I'm not
gonna actually spoil where anything ends,at least the beginning. Yeah, yeah,

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you can start, um, yeah, in the beginning. Actually it's
the very natural encounters, yes,and the and some some things don't have
to be like spoilers because it wasalready released, um, in the first
the rough draft now as it's known. Um. But yeah, we're going
back to the start of of theuh stab River galaxy. What is what

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we know is as the Star Warsuniverse or galaxy in particular. And how's
the audio drama going, because you'realso in charge of the audio job.
Yes, it's going to be excellent. Actually, we're pretty far along with
the narration process and um, Robertis is doing that process with us,

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and it's it's gonna sound pretty prettyamazing. Who else have you've been recording
with. We have a large groupI'll disclose as far as like, um,
everybody's names and stuff seeing here,but you're one of them, one
of them, yea. And mywomen are there in Star Wars. Come

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on, that's the real whoa,there's a lot of women in Wars.
I'm just kidding obvious. Yeah,joke from Family Guy when it's like when
mom Moth comes on screen and they'relike, look another woman, and then
Louis was like, I don't likeher, so oh yeah, and I

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think there's there's plenty of um ladiesin Star Wars. Shout out to Sparta
Rista, one of the board membersof Legends Consortium. Um, if anybody
hasn't been following along or if you'vemissed a couple episodes, Lisa and I
are both board members. I'm aco owner of Legends Consortium. Take it
away, Lisa. Yeah, SoLegends calling guys. It's really ramping up.

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We've already confirmed a couple of guests. So we've confirmed Sean Stewart.
First of all, awesome this,Um, guys, I've remembered we did
a Dark Rendezvous a while ago.Um. I learned something about Sean which
I had wish I had known atthe time, was he actually wrote that
book in two months, so thatexplains everything. Um. And then um,

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we have a Corona. She's alsoshe's the writer for Legacy Comic Legacy
three. She's confirmed. We alsowe haven't officially released it yet, but
Joe from Supernatural Encounters he will becoming for sure, and I think that's
super awesome. Um, we haveanother Joe. I can't say which Joe

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yet because we haven't technically locked himin, but he's dating one of the
board members. I mean she's gonnabe there, He's gonna be there.
And then we actually, my voiceis giving out already. We've also actually
had a heavy hitter. We're justwe're not quite ready to announce who it

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is, mostly because we're working outall the details. But he contacted our
email saying, hey, like I'veheard about you. I want in.
So it's like all of us yesterday. We're just like big grins on it.
He's like this, it's working.It's working, you know. So

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it's super fascinating as far as UMcelebration of the expanded Universe, the true
celebration of it, and massive surprisesfor everyone. Um. Yeah, yeah,
it's super exciting. So if youguys haven't already checked out our our
last episode where we had Catherine theexecutive director on UM, where we did

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it co fin now And if youguys still want to check that out,
I also mentioned in that episode thatif you enter it and then let us
know either through the email, LegendsLibrary podcast at gbail dot com that and
I'll throw an extra vote for youguys. M when we start to kind

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of get into our part of theJedi book giveaway, which is part of
our x Wing series when we resumeit. But you know we're gonna have
there's an ongoing joke between us listenersum that we will get through it somehow
way, like yes, because there'sthere's only so much top gun that you

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can handle. I'll say it.I'm just gonna say it, and I
love it. But it's just likethere's so much and like like topics of
what we're going to be covering tonightis going to bes way. Yeah,
I am so excited for what we'regonna do tonight. It's going to be

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different, but yes, stay tunedfor more. Let us con keep an
eye on the Facebook page, Twitterand the discord because I'm always post seeing
more of the the guests information andyou know, like all the details about
the con Um and of course that'sgoing to be in Burbank, California,
September ninth and tenth of twenty twentythree, so you can see me and

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you can see Kyle there and wecan all have a nice chat about legends
and Legends Iberry and you know,have a great fun time. So well,
yeah, today's episode, m weare doing kind of brus way,
as Kyle mention. So I lovethis story like so much. I don't

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know about you, but it's oneof the best short stories of them all
has some that that well, we'llstand to this, but I do love
this story in particular, and it'sdark and it's grim and it's so many

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um explanation is about midic Clorians thatfrankly, like, you know, there's
there's a lot of information in thelore, but the amount that's packed into
the story, yes, that weget, you know, it's it's wonderful.
Yeah. Yeah. And of course, so when I first came across
this was when we did shatter pointon on Legends Liberry, and I was

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like, I want to know moreabout Matthew Silber because Wow, he's writing
a style just blew me away.And you know, I saw like the
entry, like the little like ohhe also did this, And of course
it's in the Star Wars Insider magazine, which I own no copies of,
like because I joined Star Wars Legendsa little bit later and I managed to

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get a friend to you know,download a copy, and I was like,
I just need this story, youknow. I wish he had given
me the whole magazine, but thenhe sent me screenshots. So that's been
my experience of Star Wars Insider,which has been pretty limited. But you
have a copy of it, sovery chill. Yeah. The only things
that I collect with the Legends bannersare just things that weren't done in the

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past. That's it. So thevolume one of the the fiction collection,
which which they named yeah, veryodd, but yeah, all the same.
I'll be reading from this. Theydid a very nice layout with the
artwork. I must say, um, yes, well, so let's get

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into our our book narration because ohI love the art. So yeah,
the art is by Brian Rude.You can check out his website. I've
got it written down. I'll readit at the end, full page layouts
and stuff. Look at that ImmuneDisney. Yeah, and they made sure

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to put it on every page there'sthe gentleman himself. You know. Yeah,
it's nice to just be able tohold it um and not anyway,
let's yeah, I'm ready for thisbook. So well, yeah, so
what we're doing today, guys,instead of my usual typical reading and then
paraphrasing all the stuff, we're actuallyjust going to read it because I feel

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that not enough people have read theshort story, so why not when in
when in aldern m Yeah thing Sotenabrus Way by Matthew Stober. Okay,
so now we're going to get finallyinto our book review. We just had

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a slight technical problem, which you'llnotice there's a break in the edit that
that has happened. So yeah,just a little bit. So this evening,
in this podcast, we are discussingtenabrus Way, which is found in
Star Wars Insider one thirty. Thiswas published in December twenty eleven. So

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this story picks up a little sectionthat's going to be appearing in the book
darth Plagus by James the Sento.So and in that story, it's so
this basically takes place in sixty sevenb by and it's Tenebrius and his apprentice
darth Plagus, and they've traveled tothe planet bald Zemnick, which and they're

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there to kind of investigate a loadof cortosis. And something happens in the
cave where the MPTWO mining probe Joidhas been sabotaged by the subtext mining.
And this is basically what happens fromthis situation. So by Matthew Stover dying
Tenebris observed with mild surprise, wasturning out to not only be pleasant,

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but wholly wonderful. Had he eversuspected how much he'd enjoyed the process,
he wouldn't have wasted all these decadeswaiting for his foolish apprentice Plagus to do
him in. So, even ashe lay gasping around the icy bar as
that pierced his lung, Penebris smiled, even with a jerking and convulsive convulsive
of his body's last reflexive rebelling againstthe fall of eternal night, even as

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his organ system shut down one byone, who maintained the last shreds of
light and life within the vast intricaciesof his brain massive fion, even those
of other bysts people justly legendary forthe intellectual prowress, Tenebris found himself particularly
enjoying the incremental disappearance of his ownmidichlorian. His force perception was even more

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acute than the magnifying powers of hisenormous eyes in the forest. He could
feel each individual midichlorian wink out inturn a spreading wave of darkness, like
stars eclipsed by the silhouette of anapproaching ship, or falling through the event
horizon of a black hole. Ah, darkness, Darkness, at last,

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the darkness he had dreamed of,the darkness he had planned for, the
darkness that was his one true love, the darkness he had taken his name.
Was he not Darth Tenebrus, Overyou, Kyle. His vision dimmed,
his hearing became a rush of windleg static on an electro voter,

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and then silence. The sole sensationregistered by his quivering flesh was the rip
of shattered bone and slow suffocation,choking his consciousness. As his shredded lung
could supply only a fraction of theoxygen required by his massive brain, it
hardly mattered. Shielded from suffering byhis command of the force, Tenebris observed
the death agony of his physical formof appropriately bitten dispassion, and now his

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impossibly refined perceptions detected the brush ofPlegus's mind as the apprentice probed the vanishing
medicalarians of his dying master with hisown use of the force. As Tenebris
knew he would, had known hewould, teb had spent decades making sure
that Plegus would be unable to resistdoing exactly that everything was proceeding according to

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plan. Foolish, pathetic Plegus TeneveresMoon apprentice would never comprehend his own limitations.
These limitations were only peripherally due tothe unfortunate tendency of moons as a
species to measure every interaction as atransaction to be manipulated for maximum profit.
No, Plegus's real weakness was fear. Fear so deep and all pervasive that

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the fool did not even register itas a motion. Again and again,
as across the decades of his apprenticeship, Plegas had insisted that his fear was
not fear at all, instead claimingit to be merely rational prudence. But
Teneveres knew the truth, had alwaysknown it, never had chosen his apprentice
specifically because of it. Plegas wasafraid to die. So interesting. So

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this is a section that I've actuallynot read because the ripped version I was
given was missing two pages, Sothis would be my first time. I
know, I know, I know, I always need Kyle, So this

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is like a reveal for me.We're a Tenaburs, the sort of individual
who could experience pity. He supposedhe might feel some for his apprentice.
Crippled by dread, Plagus would neverknow the freedom of an unbounded will.
That was the true legacy of theband Knight Sith, And we're Tenaburs,
the sort of individual to be fairminded about such thing. He would have

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accepted much of the blame for Pleagus'sincapacity, as both pity and fairness were
entirely alien to his nature. ThoughTenaburs instead pleasurably recalled the relentless needing of
his apprentice. Across their long,long years together. He had pricked constantly
at Pleagus's sore spot to make certainit would never heal. But well,

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that's something we definitely see that Plagusdoes to Palpatine and Palpatine does to Vader.
Yeah, definitely their traits. Yeah, not even animals fear death.
Plagus, the lowliest beast in existence, exhibits more rational prudence than you ever
have. They fear only pain andinjury, bright lights and loud noises.

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You're less than a beast. You'rea more mere concept, and one you
do not understand. Thus was theground carefully prepared. Thus did the seed
of Plagus's fear sprout and blossom intoobsession. Thus had Tenebris skillfully redirected his
apprentice unparalleled aptitude for midi chlorine manipulation, away from the deepening of insight,

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from the intuition of the future,and from the amassing of personal and political
power, Away from any and allpursuits that might have been proven inconvenient for
Tenabris's ultimate plan toward a single goal, but a long sentence, a goal
Tenabris had chosen for ohold purposes,the mastery of life and death m hm.

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And it's it's funny that he umthat, you know, of course,
it's very much true. But it'sone of the general themes of Star
Wars is all to hear death insomewhere or another. The whole purpose is
to master death and be able totranscend it, to continue to manipulate the

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present m so always It's like it'svery cheer and cutting, but it's also
incredibly hypocritical, right yeah, anyway, m hmmm. More than a century
before when t Neevers had been putWhen when t Neeverus had been but a
Sith apprentice himself, magnificent computational powerof his fifth brain had let him far

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beyond the simplistic four studies imposed onhim by his master. It always been
far too intelligent to be seduced bythe traditional Sith, a physical twaddle of
dark destiny and the witless fantasy ofendless war against the equally witless Jedi order.
Soon he had confirmed his own satisfaction. The dark side of the Force,
far from being some malevolent mystic sentientbent on spreading suffering throughout the galaxy,

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wasn't truth merely an energy source anda tool with which he imposed his
will upon reality. It was asort of natural amplifier he could use to
multiply the effectiveness of as many usefulabilities he is a use a lot,
none none of which was more usefulthan his matchless intellect. When my peeves

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is when when people use the sameword a couple of times in the same
pag Yeah, anyway, what itis he's really like um focusing on the
power of his um basline mental capacity, which is, you know, we're
going to see that here in alittle bit too. Like many Sits before
him, he had turned his powerstoward knowledge of the future. But unlike

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any Sith before him, he hadthe enormous brain of his people, which
combined sheer brute processing power with alevel of analytic precisions simply beyond the capacity
of any other species. Again remarkingso much on his bith abilities, the
future was always in motion, andwhile other Siths struggled to foresee the faintest,
least specific hints of what was tocome, the Neeveres had no need

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to see the future. He couldcalculate it. While still merely an apprentice,
his analysis has showed him the inevitableend of the Bay Night Sith and
his preposterous rule of two. Hiscalculations plainly indicated the coming of a shadow
so vast it would darken the galaxyentirely, so vast it would mark the
end of both Jedi and Sith asthe universe had known them. Here too,

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for the rise of the shadow wouldbe the end of history itself.
The Neeveres had not the slightest doubtthat the entire galaxy would measure time according
to his arrival, and events wouldbe marked by how far they had perceived
the Shadow, or by how longafter they followed. I like that he
talks about the bay Night Sith soobviously you know, the Sith that derived

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from Darth Bags Bayin's line. Iwish we knew more about those that followed
after Cognostic and like there's just likethat gap in history that we just don't
have anything than yeah we get tons. Yeah, like there's a couple here
and there, but it's not likeart. Yeah, well but nothing Darth

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Gravid like a couple of others.But yeah, it's it's definitely pretty um
scattered. But anyway, yeah,I share continue. Though the exact nature
of the Great Shadow remained a cult, the remorseless logic of his extrapolation detail
the coming destruction of the bay Knightsystem and the rise of what would become

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known as the One Sith, OneSith Who. The conclusion was so obvious,
Yeah right, The conclusion was soobvious as to require no confirmation.
One single Sith lord would arise ofsuch power that he'd have no need of
any apprentice nor fear of the Jedi. He would take and hold the galaxy
by his own hand alone, withoutan apprentice or a jedd Jeddi order to

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destroy him. The one Sith wouldrule forever, a heavy prospect with only
a single drawback. Tenaburs was notto be that sith lord. His own
death was clearly foretold, entirely inevitable, and it would perceive the rise of
the Shadow by decade. His fatewas explicit in the numbers, and numbers

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do not lie. However, asTenaburs came eventually to realize over his many
years of research, contemplation, andcalculation, it might be possible for the
numbers in questions to be well deceived, like that the key he discovered lay
in an obscure legend obliquely referenced inthe Journal of the Wills. What that's

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cool? I haven't read this partabout a hero fairly typical and most cultures
the sort of promised future savior whoappears in the fundament sorry foundational myths of
nearly every developed society. What distinguishedthis particular savior from his running of the
mill equivalence was that he, accordingto four of eleven possible translations, was

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to be born pure force. Afterthree standard years devoted to specifically exploring all
possible permutations of the interpretation, tenof Us determined that such a birth was
indeed possible, at least metaphorically.Born of pure force could be read as
indicating the creation of a living beingthrough direct manipulation of midi chlorine processes in

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an already living being which we knowis Akin, which we know is Anakin.
What I love about this whole taxis like the guy's dying, and
look how intellectual he still has tobe. He's like, I'm still the
smartest in the room. Yeah,And the fact, the fact is that
he did um predict everything, andthe shadow can be perceived as what so

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many different things because there's the darknessthat like, you know, it's it
could be Anakin. Shut the Emperorcreate at this point too, because he
guessed the one seth. So therecould be like a lot of interpretation with
that as well. Yeah, continue, Yeah, and further, as Tanabrus
discovered with rising excitement, such abeing's force potential might be limited not by

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its creator own medi Clarin count butinstead only by its creator's level of discipline
and attention to detail. Indeed,his calculations indicated a range of potentially far
beyond his own. With proper execution, the Savior might have a mid clorin
count as high as fifteen thousand.Perhaps even more, it might be possible

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to create a being with the greatestforce potential ever recorded. Remind me,
do you remember what Anakin's was?I can't thank oh, I wish I
could off the top of my head. It's just it's absolutely ridiculous. Even
Yoda doesn't have one that count.Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's um

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It's it's clearly like potentially Sathari.I'm just saying, you look at it.
I mean, however, you lookat it. Whether Anakin was chosen
for the light or for the dark, you know it had to be balanced.
M hm take it away, Kyle. Um, so we were.

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And by the application of his ownyes, okay, And by the application
of his own suitably subtle variation ofthe ancient sifth brute force essence transfer shout
out for the the force essence transferto Neverest can ensure that his own consciousness
would be present at the care creationof this being this savior, this chosen

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One, when Plagus is manipulating theforce with Pope in the novel Plagus and
all that. So even right thenand there right him making fun of um
hm, excuse me a Plagus thatwhole time, as far as calling him
an animal, like being afraid ofdeath. It's like, look at him
singing. Well, and then plusis the one who actually was able to

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do all this like his own intelligence, Like yeah, m so he wants
to be there for this moment,and that's important. Later on and at
the moment of creation, long beforethe Chosen One could hope to resist,
Nebus would seeze it would become it. But this single stroke, decades after

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his body's death, he would becomethe most powerful force user in the history
of the galaxy. It was allthere in the numbers. He could not
possibly fail. M hm. Thisis what's on him, Like he can't
see past any of this, Likehe like he's dying and he's like it's
still I'm not going to fail onhim. His confidence and his ability to

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calculate. We're gonna come back toit. It's gonna it's gonna pop up
in here. Um yeah, Soonce his analysis had been parsed to its
end degree, polished into a gemperfect beyond the possibility of law. Denvers
had devoted every second of every dayof his life then to fulfilling his plan.

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Nothing would be left to chance.He had exterminated his daughter and master
with his customary efficiency, and hadembarked immediately on a decade spanning quest for
an apprentice of his own. Andnot just an apprentice, but the apprentice
one possessed of a very specific combinationof particular skills, primarily surrounding the direct
perception and manipulation of mediclarian activity,but also a range of weaknesses, from

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shortsighted concern with personal prop to anunconquerable dread of the unknown realms beyond the
walls of death. That, youknow, a combination of particular skills.
It just like used Liam Neeson,you know, taken, That's all I
thought. No, you're good,right man. An apprentice whose sole purpose

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was to create the tenebrous, thebeing tenebrous would finally become so he won,
you know what I mean? Theywere they accidentally did create anakin,
of course and all that. Buthe wanted to be that um, that
actual being, which is crazy.He wanted to hitch along for the ride
and then become birth and trans am. Thus would Darth Tenebrous, the greatest

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mind in the history of the Sith, be reborn to rule, to rule
the galaxy forever. Yeah, Imean his plans pretty good. Yeah,
yeah, yes, you're he didsteal it from Bain though, Like,

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let's be real, like his originalityis like the assence transfer. You know,
Bain tried to do that with withSada and obviously felt but yeah,
you know the old school, oldschool techniques. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Well, I mean, obviously heprobably knew about it because he's part
of the Bain night line, soyou know, they probably talked about it.

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Or would you talk about it,because you would have to tell your
apprentice and then the apprentice would beaware of it, and that resist you.
So it's like, or did heyou know, when you're supposed to
make the perfect blade, but yeah, you don't want it to be too
sharp. There's the whole argument ofthe rule of two, right. Yeah,

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all right, So, now thathis body's physical senses had altogether perished,
Tenebrous found his perception of the forestto be proportionately heightened with glorious precision.
He could trace the sight a wispof a clumsy force probing as his
apprentice sought to record and analyze everydetail of Tenabris that he could feel.

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Plague Us himself crouched nearby, hiseyes closed, the long spiderish fingers of
one hand stretched forth as though tosnatch Tana Briss disappearing minty Clarians from mid
air. This was Plagueus's customary technique. How very stero killer of him.
A close examination through the force,right, like he's he's crouched, like

(32:35):
I'm over here. Yeah, Imean we love him, you know,
he's plague Us, All yeah,it's like, yeah, oh, your
life slipping away. We love him. A close examination through the force of

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the mini clure in decay that itaccompanied the physical death of his victims.
Tenebrous was by far the most powerfulforce user whose death Plegus had the opportunity
to observe, and he had knownall along that his apprentice would apply all
his physical, mental, and forcecapabilities, pitiful as they might be,
to witness each slightest detail, asthough minty Chlorians somehow embodied the principle of

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life itself. They vanished as lifefled. Plegus had more than once speculated
that they somehow migrated from dying cellsand returned to rejoin the force from which
they had sprung, more evidence ofthe apprentice's body thinking apathetically romanticized mysticism.
But no matter, the delusion ofthe student had proven an inspiration to the

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teacher, and the concept of minichlorian migration flawed, though it was,
became the key to Tenebriss's master stroke. Amidst the billions upon billions of individual
minichlorian deaths and ten Bursus cells werea tiny fraction of minichlorians that were not
dying, that would not die soas long as they inhabited a living host.

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These especially tenacious mini chlorians. TeneBurus had privately labeled them with adjusting
soubriquet Maxichlorian had been altered, improved, It would not be an overstatement,
in Teneburs's opinion to use the wordperfected. These maxichlorians would indeed migrate,
and not into the four They wouldmigrate into plague its m So this is

(34:34):
our our first this is our firstmention of maxi chlorians ever, which is
interesting yeah, and Unemberus is allkinds of raby with them page there.
Yeah, so he to be ableto continue his his consciousness, he's going

(34:55):
to pervade um play as his bodyhere, yeah, with these Maxachlorians.
And again this is the cool stuffthough, because we get we do know
some about med Chlorians throughout the lore, of course, but it's it's nice
that we get so much right here, especially people who were um um,

(35:16):
we're not just learning of it,they were they were toying with it.
Yeah, so we got a littlebit more fun with it um here.
Well. And he was the onewho you know, coined the term maxi
Chlorians, and he's the only onewho ever uses the term because he's the
only one ever thought of it andthe only one try to use it and

(35:36):
died in the process of using it. Though it's just never crops up again.
So if you would like to continue, And I always think too,
like when when we say that thingsdon't pop up, I'm like, I
always think, eventually it would haveyou know if if if if things never
ended, it would have come back. Yeah, somebody would have like revisited

(36:00):
his work or something, So youknow what I mean. The possibility is
where I'm looking back on. Ohfor sure. So these max Chlorians would
indeed migrate, but not into theforce. They would migrate into Pleagus to
detect us. Yeah, yeah,where this is where I meant, okay
cool. To detect this infantestimal percentagewould require the precision of a bit.

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It was far beyond his apprentice's limitedperceptions, and indeed, to Neverus had
gone to considerable trouble to ensure itwould always remain so under always underestimating people
instead of actually training yep, insteadof actually training his doltish apprentice. To
Neverus had flattered Pleagus his mysticism whilepricking his insecurities, sending him off on

(36:44):
one useless, doomed to fail missionafter another. In turn, to Neverus
had invested every available second of thefreedom that's apported into into designing, creating,
and deploying the one weapon Plagus wouldnever suspect, could never suspect.
His own prejudices about the force ensuredPlagus wouldn't believe such a thing was possible.

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To Nevers created a retroviru, aretrovirus that could infect Mediclorians, And
here we go down the rabbit hole. Midichlorians were, after all, merely
symbiotic organelles to contribute to the organicprocesses of the living cells they inhabit.
Due to their role inforced interactions,altering them was singularly in challenging. They

(37:27):
had an unsettling tendency to spontaneous express, unexpected and ununfortunate side effects, much
like you know, real molecules too, all right, But by applying the
full analytic prowess of his vast bithbrain and the preternatural power of his bith
senses to detect and resolve sub microscopicstructure, he eventually succeeded in creating a

(37:47):
retrovirus that would transform normal midichlorians intolong lived maxi chlorians. So yes,
his virus was to here, infact, and this was how he improved
them. But that was only thebeginning. But that was only the beginning.
With the patient painstaking attention to theslightest, most insignificant detail that was

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his hallmark, Tenebrass had encoded hiscustom retrovirus with his most potent weapon,
his own consciousness. Once completed,Tenebriss had released the virus into his own
bloodstream. It had spread throughout hisbody, infecting medychlorians in every one of
his cells with gratifying alacrity. Notall his medi clorians, though, as

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the infected maxichlorians no longer fully functionedto infect them all would have cut off
his own connection from the fourth.A partial severance of this connection was a
necessary sacrifice, however, and throughan extended process of trial and error,
he was able to fine tune theeffect and confined to one sector of his
horse powers, he no longer neededhis ability to sense the motion of the

(39:00):
future. Right, yeah, becausehe thought that he could calculate that yeah
about numbers, right, like thevanity, Yeah, the vanity. It's
like, all right, cool,I'm going to give up part of myself,
cut off part of myself be ableto pull this off, to be

(39:22):
able to pull You think that that'sthe skill. You're like, oh,
maybe I won't give that up.The fact that I could see the future
like and prevent a lot of problems, Like surely there was something else.
Almost it's almost like there's a themehere, yeah, this idiocy. Yeah,

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And like you says here, whatpossible use was the ability to see
a future He already knew because hewas like I'm already gonna take over.
I'm so smart, I am sosmart smart. Wait, Smriti I quoting
over Simpson. Let's be real crazy. Yeah, all right, hmm do

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you want to do you want toread this party? Then, at last
he could begin to enjoy the fruitsof his life long labor in the force.
He could feel that his body hadalready suffered irreversible brain death, yet
his consciousness remained fully aware, fullyfunctional, and connected to the force in
a manner more intimate than he hadever believed possible. Freed now of the

(40:34):
crude biological processes that mark the passageof time, to Neverus found he could
perceive the measured tick of each individualnanosecond while simultaneously comprehending the entire sweep of
galactic eons besides Never's corpse. AsPlagus carefully observed the vanishing of to Nevers's
midiclorians, Max and Clorians were beingsubtly and invisibly carried across the intervening space

(40:58):
to settle in Plagus's eyes and mouth, on his skin, and into an
open wound on his back, wherethey entered the apprentice's bloodstream and slipped into
his cells. Releasing their viral cargoof to Nebrus's mind. Perfect and what
made it even more perfect was thathis apprentice would never comprehend the ironic pun
of the name to Nebrus had givenhim, Plagus, the diseased one.

(41:22):
Yeah, yeah, it's a goodname choice. I mean, and he's
he's um, he's in the middleof it at this point. Yeah,
he's trying. Yeah, you wantto pick up after this because he's he's
invading Pleaguus. But it's kind ofa wild name that, like Plagus never

(41:45):
quite clued into his name being Plaguus, Like why did you name me that?
You know? Are you saying I'ma plague? No, You're not
a plague. You're just a stupidstiff. Like here's no faith and in
Plagus at all. And that's likethe wild part of this situation. And

(42:06):
like, let's not forget he hadanother apprentice. He was training that other
bith Venomous or what was it,the al Vehumanist Venomus, whatever his name
was, who obviously failed in thefuture, like all best tend to do,
I guess so, driven by thedark side powered will of the Sith
Master, the retrovirus propagated with incrediblespeed as it carried his consciousness throughout the

(42:31):
apprentice's body. Tenebris found himself becomingpleasurably aware, how pervy, that he
was gaining access to Plagus's censorium.He could literally feel what Plagus felt,
both the colly clinical satisfaction at havingsuccessfully engineered ten and Burus's murder and the
forced perception that led Plagus monitor thelast banishing remnants of Tenebrisus uninfected Vitichlorian.

(42:55):
Full access to his apprentices forced perceptionsdelightful, better than Tenebreast had allowed himself
to hope. M Perhaps he shouldhave invested some time in actually training the
foolish moon Tapping Plagues's force powers wouldbe more entertaining if they weren't so stunted
from disuse. And yet that's thewild part. Now he's finally cluing in,

(43:20):
being like, oh, maybe Imade a mistake here, but you
know, I can control this guy'sbody in the future. So problem solved,
or is it so? As hecontinued to explore Tenabrius gradually became aware
of the full range of his apprentice'sconnection to the force, which was considerably
deeper broader and more powerful than Tenebreasthad ever suspected. He reflected with a

(43:45):
twinge of uncomfortable premonition that perhaps Plaguushad been right where he contended that tenebriss
had always underestimated him. Yeah,yep, yep, yeah. Now Tenebrus
touched upon his apprentice's power of foresight, which were also vastly more developed than

(44:06):
tana versus head believed. For amoment, panavers found his perception passed far
forward in time to Pelegus's own deathat the hands of his apprentice, who
was himself visible only as a spearof darkness, a shadow. I love
that line, this shadow like,yeah, if you want to pick up

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here. For an instant, Teneverusfelt to death and the death anguish of
Pleagus, and felt the searing agonyPleagus felt at his failure to have created
the force user Teneverus was to become. He would allow his own apprentice to
kill him too soon. This couldnot be. It could not be contemplated,

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much less allowed to come to passHere. He competed with panic as
to nevers through his mind at thefuture, seeking to understand how it was
Pleagus it would be so complacent,so foolish, and so blind. So
he sees that that he's going toscrew it up, and he's the searing
truth was driven home by the gatheringdarkness to cloud his borrowed foresight. Soon

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all you could see of the futurewas a hazy smear of shadow, as
the retrovirus he had become infected Plaguusis every cell. So the retrovirus he
had allowed to sacrifice his ability togaze forward and time, and had thus
robbed his apprentice of his power tosense the future. Yeah comes back.

(45:34):
Well it's crazy because like, yeah, because he gave up the ability to
see the future. He only getsit for that one brief moment when he
taps into plagus and then screws upplayus. So like, oh, it's
just this little, such a simplething that he did, and he doomed
this this I mean they still gotyeah, yeah, exactly. So,

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I mean, well, Sith couldhave been much more powerful had Pagusna died.
When he died, I'm just saying, we don't know, We'll never
know. Um, I still thinkthat, Well, I've got a theory,
but we can talk about that atthe end, which would seal his

(46:29):
own doom as well. Yeah,and had thus robbed his apprentice of his
power to sense the future, whichwould seal his own doom as well.
Yeah that's so crazy. Yeah,his single minded pursuit of eternal life and
supreme power had accomplished. Only this, he would be destroyed by his own
triumph. How sith, how verysad though right now, yes now holy

(46:53):
giving himself over to panic, TanneBrust turned his will upon undoing the damage.
This is what's the prize. Heactually tries to fix the situation.
He had done with all his multipliedplower. He yanked his maxichlorians back out
from plaguus body in a spray offorce energy from his eyes, his mouth,
the wound, and every other cellhe had to think. He had

(47:15):
to find a way out. Perhapshe didn't, Perhaps there wasn't one.
Perhaps the best way he could hopewas for the slow, inevitable extinction of
his consciousness as his maxichlorian's too fadedand winked out. Then at least he
would no longer have to squirm inthe agony of self inflicted defeat. If

(47:36):
his maxi clorians were going to fade, Yeah, that's a big f Obviously
they did so, Yeah, becausea dawn on him that he wasn't sure
exactly how long the process should take, but he certainly didn't seem to be
losing consciousness. He reached out withthe force. Perhaps he could sense something,

(47:58):
anything, or even contact Legas somehowmake his presence known, as his
apprentice would never allow him to survive, no matter how reduced his powers might
be. All right, take itaway, Kyle Legus wasn't there? Not
only had pleagus somehow vanished? ToNevers could sense no trace of him ever
having been here at all? Whatwas happening? How could this be the

(48:22):
only trace of organic life? ToNeverus could sense where some ancient mummified remains
of a bit? How long haveyou been here? How long would it
take for every trace of pleagus tovanish? Those remains were years old,
decades perhaps centuries old. That Everswondered with dawning horror if his retrovirus might

(48:45):
have somehow mutated, if its effectson the maxichlorians might go somehow deeper than
excision of foresight. What if hiseternal life would be this? Yeah?
Do you want here? Sure?Or worse? Or worse? What if
his foresight hadn't been eliminated, buthad been somehow twisted in upon itself.

(49:09):
What if his remains were ancient becausethis was the thousandth time he had relived
this death and the shattering revelation ofhis life longed to self deception. What
if this was the millionth time hehad relived it the billionth then he knew,
and at that moment he wished hestill had a mouth, because he

(49:29):
really really needed to scream. Dying. Tanabiruss observed with mild surprise, was
turning out not only to be pleasant, but wholly wonderful. Had he ever
suspected how much he'd enjoy the process, he wouldn't have wasted all these decades
waiting for his foolish apprentice Lagus todo him in. I love that ending,

(49:49):
how it just goes back right tothe beginning with the same words.
Yeah, and that is Tanabirus's way. Oh what a story, What a
story. But like, okay,so I was thinking, obviously these maxichlorians

(50:09):
did get through, you don't.We can't confirm because this is the only
time it appears in the material.So if it did go through, then
it affected Palpatine which is why Sidiuswas never able to really see that Vader
was going to kill him in thatmoment, because like he seems very surprised
when Vader finally picks him up andchucks him off and he falls to his

(50:34):
death, like he doesn't look likehe's you know, expecting it, like
or he would have been more killingVader instead of killing Luke in that moment.
The saying really interesting theory because there'sso much that happens when they when
they create anakin, so to speak. Um, and yeah, he's just

(50:55):
yeah, that's an interesting theory.Yeah. Well even so yeah, well
even with the other um oh mygoodness, like the what if comics,
you know, the the New Hopeinfinities, Like even in that he didn't
see vedas Vader's going to kill him, Like obviously it's a known fact that

(51:17):
the Prentice tries to kill the Master, but again, he didn't do anything
to stop it. Like I alwaysthought that maybe part of Baine's essence prist
or had kind of gotten through,but you know, well and it's it's
um yeah, never mind, nevermind, um yeah, never mind.

(51:39):
Yeah, I know, it's justhis What a story though, And like
I love that it's like the millionof the billion of times, constantly thinking
in this dark, gloomy cave andPlegus is long dead. I'll be so

(52:00):
was everyone else. Like, Andit's that that theme with the Sith,
you know, as far as justtrying to conquer death and then they realizing
death is nice. Yeah, thecold dish saying like, well this kind
of sucks and like sure we didtranscend death, but to what end?

(52:22):
Yeah, and then you know,half of them always get messed up.
They're like, oh, we finallyfound you, I will ensnare you and
then defeated horribly. You know.Sounds like a lot of relationships. Yeah,

(52:43):
yeah, yeah, this has becomekyled. Our tradition is to record
every valent Time staying now instead ofever having to think of any other plans
if we're single, because it's justlike, no, we don't we don't
have to worry about love and youknow, being alone with our cats.

(53:09):
We got each other on Valence Side'sday and we talk star Wars. So
yeah, just the way to doit now, now that we've talked about
tenebras, just just a little fundeviating off the topic. Some of the

(53:30):
favorite power couples um I put onTwitter today, you know, like who's
your favorite power couple? A lotof people like FRX and cornu Lando and
oh my gosh, I just lankedon her name, Tendra. Who would
yours be your favorite? Not LukeBara Legends couple. There's a lot to

(53:59):
choose from. I would have saidJane and Zech unpopular opinion because I really
liked where they were going. Andthen it was so sad when when Jane
was just like like kind of likeshove off, bro. No, my
favorite power couple was was Um wasdefinitely Anakin into hearing. Yes, that's

(54:23):
that's always been and so they couldtoss up. I loved um Ben and
Vstara too, but like as faras the absolute like number one, just
because of like I'd love to hearme and the way that Jason with her
yeah afterwards, and how Anakin diesand that whole like you know, missed

(54:44):
opportunity and and people say that like, oh my god, they wasted a
character, and it's like did theyI don't think they wasted Anakin at all
when when he died. Um justkind of being on that topic anyway,
it's like, has there ever beenlike that kind of a mark and the
way that they used him moving forward, It's just like, no, something

(55:05):
like that had to happen. It'sjust like, well the young one went
first, and yeah, um Ithink yeah, and I love that it
made everything else believable, like goingnuts, like the whole thing everything,
It made it all you know,yeah, realistic and um tragic and more

(55:28):
um yeah, I don't know,like like modern day of war. Well,
his death was more significant than hisgrandfather's death. You know, like
Anakin may have died and you knowgot rid of the dark Side for a
time, but you know, foremotion, obviously Anakin solo that hit somebody

(55:49):
wore people like always like to hearhe went to the dark side because she
was tempted by him, and youknow, thanks to Jason, and they
finally had that. I mean,he did give her that kiss such so
wanted from him, and that wassuch a hard moment to finally see where
when they do the flow walking sceneand it finally kisses them all bad.

(56:15):
Yeah, like one of my favoritesections of that book. But yeah,
yeah, it's so sad, sosad. Oh now we're only going a
sad note. Ah, But asfar as like power couples go to like,

(56:36):
um, the last time that wesee Luke and Marre together, you
know, and like mar just likeit's already dad, but you know,
it just kind of closes out andzooms out, like them just talking.
Yeah, like that one last time, don't forget. She was also like
what woman were you talking to?And he's like, yeah, I guess

(57:00):
it was like some other like Ididn't get it, and then it was
it was deep and it was terrible. Sorry, Luke so innocence. Yeah,
always the farm boy anohing wrong withthat? I live on a farm.

(57:22):
Uh yeah, but that anakin toHeary, I think. Yeah,
there are some of my favorites.I love the Ben Vstara coupling. I
think they would have made a terrificyou know, continuation of the line of
stories and it's very sad. Ithink that's where it was going. Yeah,
I think that's where it was going. I think Merita was going to

(57:45):
be like the next Bobo um,you know, and they were just gonna
follow like that Mara and Luke archetypeand yeah, this whole hurrah you know.
Yeah, like Ben as a grandmasterand always having to kreda keep an
eye but a star and then I'mobviously heard trying to kill him all the
time. Yeah, yeah, Ithink it was gonna be great. Yeah

(58:09):
that happens, you know, like, yeah, they spent so much time
building that up too, and itwas it was great. So yeah,
yeah, that was That was likethe ah, that was the next era
that we were going to get into. It was like, oh, my
gosh, there's finally, finally,finally after all this. There's legions of

(58:31):
Sith, there's legions of Jedi.Yeah, in the modern timeline. It's
like, you know, not countinglegacy, of course, but it's like
and then everything ends, and you'relike yeah, and then they wonder why
everyone was so upset. It's likebecause it's not even that it necessarily ended.

(58:54):
It's just because it was just gone, and my god, there was
We could have just gotten a littlebit anyway in another galaxy I'm sure,
or a multiverse, we got allthe answers and all the books, then
we can live happily ever after.But it is not. This is not

(59:19):
the way unfortunately. Well that beingsaid, I'm really happy we uh we
talked today about Tenaberus's way U.What is interesting with the story is you
know the fact that they were killedor sorry Tenabversus was killed and Vigas was
almost killed through those actions. Itthen eventually would lead him to go to

(59:46):
Naboo and find his own apprentice.So it all is like this little sile
thing that's happened, and you know, continuing the sath and but and if
you guys haven't listen, I've pushedthis before and I don't know if you've
done it yet, but the theaudio drama or the audiobook for play guess

(01:00:08):
is so incredible, so incredible.I always push it because I don't know
if you've listened to it yet.Um, have you listened to it yet?
Okay, that's that's one of thefear that I've heard, like more
than twice. Yeah. Yeah,some of them just are terrible. I'm

(01:00:29):
not gonna lie ter. Yeah yeah, I just can't. I just can't.
And like when they're bridged, Ihad, yes, I agree,
but I agree. Yeah, youstill most of them you here like at
least once just to I'm like thatperson, like you know, I'll read
any of the anything just to saythat I've got it under my belt.

(01:00:52):
It's hard for me to truly dislikeanything, but some are rougher than others.
I tried to listen to Death Drapers, and I'm just like, oh,
that guy they chose, for example, I can't remember his name.
By the end, it's like it'sokay because you're so used to it that
it works in the horror setting.But for the first like a few hours,

(01:01:13):
you're just like like, I'm inthe and I just like I want
to start scraping the glass on mycar window because it's gonna sound better,
and and it's just like, oh, that's getting it out. Oh that's
stop trying. But watch this girl, yeah girl. Um yeah, no,

(01:01:34):
I don't like that book in general, so I wouldn't even listen to
it. Oh I love the book. Well, I hate zombies, so
it's just not up my alley.Yeah it's deeper than that. Yeah,
it's yeah, it's zombies and Iget it yet it's just it's actually not
deeper than that. But um,it was really really cool story and like

(01:01:59):
Han and Chewy, but why werethey even there? It just makes sense.
It's because he didn't read it.Did you read it? I've read
it twice. Yeah, I'm sorry. I was like, what are you
talking about it makes sense that they'rethere. Yeah, I just don't remember
why they're there. I just feltlike they were just kind of thrown in.

(01:02:19):
Well, yeah, you have tohave people that, you know,
you gotta sell the book. Imean, like, you know, like
all right, let's go, ohmy god that they're like, oh their
role it's like oh oh, andit's great. And the havoc yeah,

(01:02:40):
you know, and they come tothe rescue. It's like I thought it
was fun just to watch him likebe the good guys if anything else,
like you know, there was thegood guys though. Yeah, yeah,
but I mean I don't know.Well, I mean I don't know.
It's maybe day we will cover thebook on here. But yeah, listeners,

(01:03:07):
you will not you will not know. But this took us hours because
of all the technical difficulties that wehad going on with our internet service.
Oh my god, twice I wasmissing a page of the whole live in
You live in the hills of Canadaand I live in the hills of the

(01:03:30):
United States. I mean, it'sjust days and this is what Valentine's is.
It's a little bit crazy, it'sa little bit invasive. We get
through it. Somehow. As longas he's some chocolate, you will be
fine. Yeah, Auntie there,yeah, but all right, all right,

(01:03:53):
well let's wrap this foot up.So, Kyle, if you could
tell the listeners that they can geta hold of you and what you're going
to be doing there oh um onTwitter and Instagram or I'm sorry, on
Twitter and Discord you can get meat darn qatarn Um and then on um

(01:04:15):
Instagram you can get me at lefthand past twenty three. Anyway, anyway,
um, and what we're doing next, it will well. I finally
finished the work with Joe. Iwas the lead project editor for for Supernatural
Encounters, so that was great.We're finally done. It's at the presses
and now we're working on the audiodrama as well as UM getting Legends Consortium

(01:04:39):
UM making that reality the September.It's gonna be great. I can't wait
until we're able to announce the nextguests. We're gonna do it on our
show too, um, so yes, be prepared. Yeah, and do
you know, guys, tickets aregoing to be on sale sometime this month
hopefully, but you can kind ofget an advanced ticket if you check out

(01:05:01):
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Um. If you want to sendstill Kyle, if you need audio of
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(01:05:23):
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But yeah, and then you canget a hold of me at least the
Mountain on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram. Why would you want to go on
Instagram anyway? So we are thesedays. It's just like all videos.
When did it stop being just apout out Like I don't understand, I

(01:05:46):
don't know, I'm just getting goldup. But again, everyone, listeners,
thank you for tuning in. I'mso happy that we're able to get
the story out to reconnect. Somay the force be with you guys.

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