AARO report - No ET Evidence Slammed as LIES! - Chris Lehto

Chris Lehot gives a summary of the latest AARO report.

Podcast published on 12 March 2024.

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Episode Transcript

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Erroon investigated numerous name described but unnamedprograms alleged to involve UEP exploitation. Although
at least one interview he claimed tohave seen a captured up. Okay,
so one said that's first hand accountto me, right, None of the
interviewees had direct access to our firsthand knowledge of the programs alleged to be
UAP related. Okay, but atleast so they say, at least one,

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at least one interview he claimed tohave seen a captured up. Okay,
I mean that's pretty amazing. Welcometo Later Files. If you've seen
a lot of the news headlines lately, the Arrow Report has come out and
it's said they found no empirical evidenceof any extraterrestrial off world craft or beings.

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But today we'll actually go through keyparts of the actual report and show
that they do say a lot ofconflicting claims, such as at least one
at least one what does that meanany members have seen actual captured UAP.
We'll also go through a recent articlein Salon that shows how bad this report

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is. Chris Later, Welcome toLater Files. Thanks for being here.
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It's disappointing obviously this era report.But looking at it, they called a

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few people and they looked online fora few things. So basically nothing really
happens up to page twenty six.What I saw here is Canada's Sky project
is currently ongoing and the program willrelease its findings in twenty twenty four.
I hadn't heard of that. That'spretty interesting. Otherwise, this was from
Canada's Project magnet It's run by Departmentof Transport engineer Wilbert Smith, so they

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mentioned him. Wilbert Smith. Heassess the UFOs were of extraterrestrial origin and
that they flew by magnetism. Prettyinteresting. He believed he was in personal
contact with extraterrestrial beings through telepathy andtensor beams, so they name him here
in an interview it was early sixtyone, claimed it in nineteen fifty two.
The USAF lent him a piece ofUFO to study, and then Smith
admits his beliefs concerning UFOs or hisalone, not the government's official position.

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Reading this, it really feels likeBlue Book two, and they say throughout
the whole thing is lack of actionableresearchable data. So the whole thing is
they looked, they looked really hard, and they just couldn't find anything.
The roberts In Battle there was atleast one US government proposal by the CI
sponsor Robertson Panel to engage in anactive training and debunking effort using various public

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media tools to steer the public awayfrom reporting UFOs. So they mentioned here
at various points in history, individualsinside and outside of the government included in
doctor Heinek claimed the USAF had agoal of debunking or explaining way reports of
UAP. It really looks like thisone as well. But now we get
to really the kind of juiciness ofthe report. So page twenty six Assessment

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of interviewee claims of US government involvementin hidden UAP programs. So this is
where it just kind of goes offthe rails, right, So we know
there's at least forty forty whistleblowers,and David Grush said recently fifty. So
as of September seventeen, twenty twentythree, AERO interviewed approximately thirty individuals,
and you can really see who theyinterviewed. They mentioned nothing nothing about the

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knimics. The Niemens seems like thebest case, and they should have all
the data. The fact that theydon't even mention the nimets is amazing to
me. I guess they're telling usthat it is a US program, which
just seems amazing to me. Twomain narratives have emerged with various and potentially
unrelated offshoots. So the primary narrativealleges that the US government and industry partners

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are in possession of and are testingoff world technology that's been concealed from congressional
oversight and the world since approxi.Nineteen sixty four, So that's interesting nineteen
sixty four and possibly since nineteen fortyseven. If the Roswell events are included,
they should be included. The narrativeasserts that this UEP program possessed as
many as twelve extraterrestrial spacecraft, AndI still wonder did they interview David Grush,

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because as far as I know,and you guys can correct me,
is none of his accounts are anywhere. He said at least twelve, So
they say as many as and hesaid it was it was at least twelve.
So here we go through an arrowinterview. He claimed in a third
hand account that an organization was inpossession of twelve spacecraft were covered from different

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crash events prior to nineteen seventy,so that was twelve prior to nineteen seventy.
Some of the craft were intact.The interview also stated the CIA had
a partnership with a company that endedin eighty nine and wanted all material return
to the CIA. Heerro discovered noempirical evidence supporting these claims, So basically,
this whole report says that they've looked, They've looked really hard, and

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they haven't found anything. An intervieweeclaimed that an organization was in possession of
off world material in two thousand andnine and twenty ten. A separate interview,
he stated they participated in negotiations toreturn the US to the US government.
The same interviewee stated that a formernamed senior CIA official quashed the proposal

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to remove the material from the corporation, and they mentioned Errol mentions that they
did actually interview a named CIA official. A separate interview, he claimed that
in ninety nine, a former USmilitary officer told the interviewee that he touched
the surface of an extraterrestrial spacecraft.This is the one they say is the
F one seventeen. They say,okay, they interviewed the guy and he

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said, no, it was.It was an F one seventeen. He
doesn't remember even talking to this guyabout it, much less saying that it
was extraterrestrial. So that's what theysay. It was a one to seventeen.
Two interview, he said, theyparticipated in an alleged White House task
UAP stud in northern Virginia between twothousand and four and two thousand and seven,
and so Ero went and asked theWhite House members and they said no,

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they don't remember it and had neverheard of it. So again they
looked and they couldn't find anything.That's kind of the whole report. Another
interview, he claimed ninety nineties,he overheard electronic communication of a conversation between
two military bases where scientists claimed alienswere present during specialized material testing. And
they say, okay, he musthave just misunderstood. He misunderstood the word

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aliens. They named the Project Aliens. That's what they came up. But
an interviewee who is a former USservice member said in nine while participating in
a humanitarian and security mission in aforeign country. He encountered US Special Forces
loading containers onto a large extraterrestrial spacecraft. So this must be Michael Herrera.
So at least they have Michael Herrerain there, and they don't say anything

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about this, that's it. Intervieweesaid that a family member was part of
an effort to reverse engineer and anobject assumed to be offeral technology in the
eighties. The engineers failed to reverseengineer the object and it was sent to
a different facility for further evaluations.Again they mentioned nothing about this. An
interviewee pointed out to ERA the existenceof an alleged leaked special National Intelligence estimate

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from nineteen sixty one proof of theexistence of UAP crashes. So ERA says
they looked into this and they foundit was not authentic. Some interviewees in
public accounts underpin the storyline, butclaiming through second and third hand accounts that
some NDAs have been used to protecta reverse engineering program of off world technology.
Pretty interesting. They mentioned these accountsdescribed the NDAs as including punishment by

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death provision should the signatory disclose informationabout the program. Some interviewees claimed verbal
and written NDAs were administered in severalinstances. They say later that this is
normal, that punishment by death isin all of our NDAs, which just
seems the secondary narrative. The othernarrative is that a cluster of UAP sidings

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that occurred in close proximity to USnuclear facilities have resulted in the malfunction and
destruction of nuclear missiles and a testre entry vehicle. So this is related
to Jacobs. So Robert Jacobs andSolas so Errow interviewed five former USAFF members
who served in and around fifteen orUS Intercontinental loaballistic missile silos at Malstrom,

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Ellsworth, Vanderberg, and Mi notUSAFF bases between sixty six and seventy seven,
So they finally actually interviewed these guys. Some of these individuals claim up
sidings near the silos, while othersclaim UAP disruptions to ICBM operations. And
Ero even says later that they haven'tconcluded this investigation, okay, So although
they found no empirical evidence, they'vecertainly heard a lot of a lot of

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interview he claims, and only thirtyof the fifty they asked the CIA and
they heard nothing but they've only theyhaven't finished their investigations, so they should
have said that at the beginning.Specifically, they said the ICBM launch control
facilities, when offline are experienced totalpower failure. Additionally, one interviewee and
a use that videographer claim to haveobserved and record a UAP destroying an ICBM

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loaded with the dummy warhead mid flight. So this is Robert Jacobs. I've
covered this a couple of times.ERO is researching US and adversarial activity related
to these events, including any USprograms that tested defensive ballistic missile capabilities.
So they're researching it. Yeah.ERO investigated and reached conclusions on the majority

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of the claims made in these narratives. Again in most cases, in most
cases, ERO was able to locatethe companies, people in programs that were
conveyed to ARROW through interviews. EROwill report the results of the unresolved allegations
in volume two. Okay, sobasically volume one just says we haven't found
anything yet and we're looking. Sothat's basically it. That's what they said.

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No official UAP non disclosure agreements discovered. This is funny too, They're
like, in the conduct of thisreview and to meet the direction, AERO
sent guidance a request to DoD icelements DOE and DHS to review and provide
ndndas pertaining to UAP or its previousnames, and to date they just haven't
heard anything back. Today, AEROpersonnel have not discovered, have been notified

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of any NDAs that contain information apartfrom the standard NDA language contained in Title
eighteen, Section seventy ninety four describingthe death penalty or jail time for illegally
disclosing information relating to the national defense. AERO has not discovered NDAs containing threats
to interviewees for disclosing UAP specific information. So apart from penalty of death,

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they haven't discovered any threats to intervieweesapart from penalty of death, and then
they put it here. Historically,most if not all NDAs contains standard language
stating that the death penalty can beapplied for the crime of disclosing classified information
I don't remember shall be punished bydeath in anything I signed. This is

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funny too, right, So AEROmet with high ranking officials, including executives
and chief technology officers of the namecompanies, all denied the existence of these
programs and attested to the truthfulness oftheir statements on the record. I mean,
who are they asking high ranking officials, including executives and chief technology officers,

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So you just have to send theguys that don't know. Now they
say this is from to the StarsAcademy, that the sample of alleged alien
spacecraft's an ordinary terrestrial metal alloy hasgot to be from to the Stars Academy.
So the organization that owned the materialnegotiate an agreement in twenty nineteen with
the US Army to analyze the sampleswith permission from the stakeholders. AER acquired

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this sample to conduct more in depthanalysis, ERO and a leading science laboratory.
At least they got someone else tolook at it. Concluded that material
is a metallic alloy terrestrial nature andpossibly of USAF origin based on its materials
characterization. It was also assessed materialsmostly composed of magnesium, and the bismuth
present was not a pure layer perinitial claims, but it sounds like the

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claims that it was somehow a purelayer of bismuth. AERO found that the
structure was not purely layered magnesium alloyin bismuth and this is interesting here.
Okay, So AERO investigated unresolved historicalnuclear related UAP cases but hasn't said anything.
Like all historical UAP cases, verylittle actional data exists beyond limited firsthand

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narrative accounts. Nevertheless, ERO continuesto investigate these cases due to the sensitive
nature. Although ERO has not beenable to recover the alleged film of the
ballistic missile re entry vehicle being shotdown by UAPN sixty four, EAR was
able to correlate the general time andlocation with an anti ballistic missile test,
which could have been the genesis forthis observation. So basically, they've looked,

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they asked some people, and theyhaven't found the answers. That's what
this report says. Nothing about nimits, which is amazing me. So the
summary right, AERO investigated numerous namedescribed but unnamed programs alleged to involve UEP
exploitation, although at least one interviewhe claimed to have seen a captured up.
Okay, so one said, that'sfirst hand account to me, right,

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None of the interviewees had direct accessto our first hand knowledge of the
programs alleged to be UAP related.At least one interviewee claimed to have seen
a captured up. Okay, Imean that's pretty amazing. One interviewe had
access into one authentic program, buthis position was such that he had only
limited access to its complete details.So what does that mean? Into one

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authentic program? Because you say,here, none of the interviewees had direct
access to our first hand knowledge ofthe programs alleged to be UAP related.
And then the next sentence, theysay, one interviewee had access to one
authentic program, but his position wassuch that he only limited access to its
complete details. I mean, didthey talk to Bob Blazar or the interview

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is indirect and incomplete knowledge of authenticefforts most likely contributed to their misinterpretation of
what they heard or saw. Sonow they're saying empirical evidence, So they
say, that's what they're using,empirical evidence. So Er concludes many of
these programs represent authentic, current andformer sensitive national security programs, but none

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of these programs have been involved withcapturing, recovering, or reverse engineering off
world technology or material. Okay,but although at least one interviewee claimed to
have seen a captured you, Imean, what does that mean is that
too? How many of them claimedit? So you noticed they didn't put
any numbers in here. They're justleaving it there, like leave out the

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numbers. Okay. All programs assessedto be authentic were if still active,
appropriately reported to they're both the CongressionalDefense and Intelligence Committee. So they say
that they were reported to be authentic. What does that mean authentic? Are
they authentically looking after UAPs? Oneprivate program mistaken for US government program?

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I think that's they say here,the Virtual Institute for Satellite Integration Training.
This program is not a US governmentfunded and supported effort. It was a
program operated by a private UAP organizationand had a NASA engineer as a participant.
NASA verified it did not sponsor theproject. Okay, so they've asked
some people ConA blue proposed UAP recoveryand first engineering program. They say that

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this was actually has its origins andthe DEIA managed all sap ATIP program,
so that they say that it wasa group of people. At the first
half of this report is basically there'sa small group of people. Even though
they had they investigated thirty people whoare are saying all this information. I
mean thirty still and that's not thefifty that they should have when DII canceled

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this program its support. Is proposedto DHS that they create and fund a
new version of ALLSAP a TIP undera SAP Special Access Program. This proposal,
code named ConA Blue, would restartUAP investigations, paranormal research including alleged
human consciousness and anomalies, and reverseengineer and he covered off world spacecraft that
they hope to acquire. This proposalgained some initial traction a DHS to a

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point where Prospective Perspective Special Access Programwas officially requested to stand up this program,
but it was eventually rejected by DHSleadership for lacking merit, so Senators
Lieberman and Reid asked that the pSET be established the promise of additional funding.
The proposed ConA Blue lines of effortclosely mirrored those conducted by the private

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sector organization for ALLSAP a TIP,so they're basically blaming it on all SAP
and a TIP. They say theadvocates of ConA Blue were convinced the US
government was hiding UAP technologies. Theyput in bold whenever they say it's critical
to note that no extraterrestrial craft orbodies were ever collected. This material was
only assumed to exist by ConA Blueadvocates and its anticipated contract performers. This

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was the same assumption they made involvedwith the AFSAP A TIP. The SAP
was never approved or stood up,and no data or material was transferred DHS.
SO I think this goes back tothe twenty two million dollars that Harry
Reid said was for taking the alienmaterials, so the bodies, biologics,
and putting them into a secure facility. ConA Blue was not reported to Congress

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at that time because it was neveran established SAP. However, the Deputary
Secretary of Defense provided a congressional notificationconcerning the program when it was identified.
In the spirit of transparency. SoERA Research interviewed numerous people, programs and
leads. It has determined that modernallegations that the US government is hiding off
for technology and beings largely iruminate originatefrom the same group of individu duels who

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have ties to the Cancel allsap ATIPprogram in a private sector organization's paranormal research
efforts. These individuals have worked witheach other consistently in various UP related efforts.
So they start, they name peoplepersons one through five. They have
not provided any empirical evidence of theirclaims to Arrow. So Persons one and

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three and interviewers one, three,and twelve were involved with paranormal research with
ASAP and ATIP. Person five andinterviewees three, nine and fourteen were involved
with the alleged crash UEP materials thatwas provided by the US Army, so
that must have been to the StarsAcademy. Person's four seven to eight and
interviews one, three and thirteen investigatedUP on their own and were responsible for

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successfully expanding the REMIT of an existingIC program to include UP exploitation language and
Aerow notes that persons one in fournever formally sat down with Arrow to provide
official signed statements. I mean isthat David Grush. These individuals have been
mentioned by other interviews frequently as sourcesof their claims. Person eight held an

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informal interview in INTERVIEWEE fourteen sat foran official interview, but has not signed
the memo for the record documenting thisinterview. Okay, all right, so
their's summary right for their historical contactsince nineteen forty five, AERO assesses the
incidents of up sidings reported the USgovernment organizations, the claims that some constitute
exterrestrial craft, and the claims thatthe US government has secured and is experimenting

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on alien technology most likely are theresult of a range cultural, political,
and technological factors. So it justseems like the Robertson panel again. And
let's see there is one other interestingpart. So, although many up UFO
cases remain unsolved based on the lackof evidence for the extra trust your origin.

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I mean, what about the peopletelling you that they saw an alien
ship shoot down a ICBM or allthe nuclear incidents. The assessment that all
resolved cases to date have ordinary explanations. AERO assesses assess sightings and claims of
extrascial visitations have been influenced by arange of factors. What about the knimics

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and what about Jacobs? Two peoplesaying that UFO shot down in ICBM?
What about Salas? Then they listthrough basically these programs that they just did
like a Wikipedia search. From whatI could tell, they list what could
be so Reaper, Dark Star PolecatGlobal Hawk is interesting. I like that

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thing. RQ four Global Hawk isthe largest UAS and operation. It can
fly sixty five thousand feet more thanthirty four hours. I mean, look
at that. It can loiter atsixty thousand feet while monitoring almost fifty eight
thousand square miles. Could any ofone of these things be the TIC TAC?
So to date, Aero's not discoveredany empirical evidence that any setting of

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a UAP represented off world technology,of the existence of a classified program that
had not been properly reported to Congress. I mean, that's my question.
What about the NYMTS. That's it, that's their conclusion. So interesting here
this report represents volume one. Volumetwo will be published in accordance with Section
blah blah blah, and will provideadditional analysis on information not yet secured and

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analyzed. Interview is not yet conducted, and additional avenues of investigation not yet
complete. I love this too.Although many UAP reports remain unsolved, AERO
assesses that if additional quality data wereavailable, most of these cases also could
be identified and resolved as ordinary objectsand phenomena. So, I mean,
it sounds exactly the same. Mostof these cases. All we need is
one case. We just need onecase. My question is, what about

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the NYMTS. So Pentagon report deniesUFOs or aliens. Experts accused the government
of misrepresenting the truth. Okay,well, that's a good one from Salon.
That's the first one I've seen.Experts accused the government of misrepresenting the
truth. UFO research, psychic andinterdimensional operations were crammed in a report slammed
as threadbare lies. Okay, nice. A new report from Pentagon on UAPs

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partially confirmed high prop whistleblower allegations aboutplanned Clanenstein government programs for the retrieval and
reverse engineering of non human aircraft viaprivate contractors. So we basically read through
just now all those interview he claimsagain, doesn't mention David Grush, doesn't

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mention the NIMTS, right, doesn'tmention anything about David Fraver's case. Correct
me if I'm wrong, But hehe did say he talked to aero man.
I wonder how they're going to getaround that or are they just not
going to mention it. The reporthas also, however, drawn sharp rebuke
among academic skeptics and disclosure advocates afterraising more questions and concerns than it answered,

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concluding that Department offens is in investigationinto itself. The report from AERO
claims to have found no empirical evidenceof UEP, yet also declassifies the DoD
origins and developmental plans for UP relatedprogram called ConA Blue that AERO says never
got off the ground. So that'swhat we read through ConA Blue basically they

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say got its origins from ASSOP fromATIP. Disclosedre Advocates have since roundly criticized
the report for its alleged lack ofscientific rigor and failure to fully disclose first
hand accounts and significant details involving theprograms mentioned in the port I mean that's
so true. Reports Critics include famePentagon papers lawyer Dan Sheehan, former eight

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Hip director Louel Zondo, and theDoD's former top civilian intelligence official Christopher Mellon
sixty three page report not only notablyladen with hypographical errors, misplaced URLs,
self referential citations, and statements misrepresentingthe public conclusions of UP scholars, but
also amits a signific an amount ofthe historically declassified data which the office was

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tasked with compiling in the report.In a Friday press conference ahead of the
report's release, DEO they officials saidthe United States has found no evidence of
extrastrial intelligence, of course, butacting ERO director Tim Phillips has revealed plans
to deploy what ERO calls Gremlin surveillancetechnology, a configurable sensor array designed in
partnership with the Department of Energy inGeorgia Tech to capture more UAP related data

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and military hotspots where citing reports arenumerous, going to put out the Gremlin.
ERO is testing the Gremlin system ata large range in Texas with hopes
that it can be used in theevent of any UAP related problem with critical
infrastructure or national security, echoing concernsfor witnesses who have attested to heighten UAP
activity near facilities with nuclear capabilities,so they're going to put out their own

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UAP system. We've been out theregoing against some known UAS targets, but
some unknown targets, picking up alot of bats and birds. We're learning
a lot about solar flaring. Solarflaring, we're really starting to understand what's
in orbit around our planet and howwe can eliminate those as anomalist objects.
So we're going to do that andthen We're going to go to the Department
and say we are ready to deployour system in response to a national security

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site or critical infrastructure with a UAPproblem. Phillips told reporters, Okay,
what about the nimts. I don'tknow. I mean, how do they
not mention the knimens by not sayinganything? Are they saying that the Knimets
was a SAP? We know theytalked to David Fravor. How could you
have a system that does what thetic TAC. The reports release falls a

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month's long tense standoff between Congress andArrow, with lawmakers and UAP whistlers on
one side and the now retired formerERA director Sean Kirkpatrick on the other.
In January, Kirkpatrick denounced congressional inquiryinto UAP, claiming top members of Congress
hold a religious belief in UFOs thattranscends critical thinking and rational thought. Kirkpatrick

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similarly misrepresented up whistleblower claims, sayingnone of the UFO whistleblowers have any firsthand
evidence or knowledge and that's just nottrue, right because we just looked,
is the at least one they saidat least one? What does that mean
at least one, a statement repeatedlyproven incorrect by members of Congress who has

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spoken to witnesses of cleanesteine UEP programs. Yet none of the UFO whistleblowers have
any firsthand knowledge or evidence. Butwe just read that in the report they
say that at least one of theinterviewees said they saw a captured up.
Maybe gets around that because they arenot any programs government up programs, paranormal

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research and human consciousness anomalies. Iwonder if that's related to Blue or ConA
Blue. The report appears to contradictitself repeatedly, while incidentally confirming the existence
of a number of government operations thatmay de facto fit the bill. While
incidentally confirming the existence. On onehand, Aero states that no empirical evidence
for the claims exist, and thatclaims evolving specific people, known locations,

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technological tests, and documents allegedly involvedin or related to the first engineering of
extraterrestrial technology are inaccurate. It iscritical to note that no extraterrestrial craft or
bodies were ever collected were ever collected. But then you have two interview well
at least one, at least oneinterviewee saying you saw up craft capture.

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This material was only assumed to existby ConA Blue advocates and its anticipated contract
performers, the report says. Onthe other end, however, the report
and doing so not only confirms evidencethat three such programs were in varying stages
of development, but provides additional contextfor their potential funding sources and role in
Defense Intelligence agency strategy, further supportingseveral whistle blower claims. So here we

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go. Yeah, AERO confirmed theexistence of one intelligent community controlled access program
that was unnecessarily expanded in twenty twentyone to include a UAP reverse engineering mission,
the report says, adding that appropriatecongressional committees were notified unnecessarily expanded to
include UEP reverse engineering. Yet thereport claims this program was expanded despite the

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lack of any evidence or mission needto justify the expansion, and that it
never recovered or reverse engineered any technology, let alone off world spacecraft. This
controlled access program was disestablished due toits inactivity, absence of mission need,
and lack of merit. The report'slack of clarity is compounded when the ERRO
authors then seem to play a shellgame. Both admitting and denying the existence

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of two other such programs related towhistleblower claims, Arguing at times over semantic
minutia. The report also seems tospotlight would many have been a keyhole opportunity
for disclosure advocates in the bureaucratic labyrinthof esoteric DoD acronyms and classification protocols.
And this is talking about Harry Reid, the direction of Senate Majority Leader Harry

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Reid. The Defense Appropriations Act ofFiscal years eight ten appropriated twenty two million
dollars for the DEA to assess longterm and over the rise in foreign advanced
aerospace threats to the United States.In coordination with the Office of Undersecretary Defense
DiiA established AWSAP in two thousand andnine, which is also known as ATIP.
The contract for this DIA managed programwas awarded to private sector organization,

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report says, Then, again contradictingtheir own recognition of official documentation, the
authors add that, unlike ASSAP,ATIP was never an official DoD program.
Didn't they just say it? Rather, this was an unofficial UEP community of
interest within DoD, which also happenedhave been officially directed to do this and

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thus under DoD direction research UP sidingsfor military observers as part of their ancillary
job duties. This is interesting.The report goes on to explain the awsap
ATIP also investigated an alleged hotspot ofUA and paranormal activity at a property in
Utah must be Skinwalker, which atthat time was owned by the head of
the private sector organization so Bigelow Aerospace, including examining reports of shadow figures and

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creatures, exploring remote viewing and humanconsciousness and anomalies. Okay, so that's
where they get the human consciousness anomalies. Organization also planned to hire psychics to
study interdimensial phenomena believed to frequently appearat this location. All right, Phillips,
so our new doctor k to reportis Friday that the ConA Blue program
was declassified for the report's release,which details the program's origin as an effort

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to re establish the UP program underDepartment of Homeland Security, or claims that
ConA Blue was supported by individuals whobelieve the US government was hiding offworld technology
and was actively ready for formal authorizationsto the extent that Kathleen Hicks, Deputy
Defense Secretary notified Congress in the spiritof transparency, In the spirit of transparency,

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that doesn't seem to ever happen withthis stuff. Then they say the
program was never approved. Yeah,were you relying on these agencies, for
example, the CIA to come upwith their own determinations. Yes, So
basically they just wrote letters and said, do you guys have any NDAs,
Do you have any UAPs that youhaven't told anyone about. We've received one

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report in the maritime domains as Phillips, and we've received no reports in space,
no reports in space, but that'snot true because they listed Jacobs shooting
down on ICBM in space. However, we do have working groups in space
and in maritime. What we're tryingto do is to find what a UAPID,

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what is a UAP incident, andhow that would be reported public ALCAI
around the report likens Pentagon's self investigationto charging the Fox to guard the Henhouse.
Asked by reporters why Americans should acceptthe Pentagon's non independent and unverifiable inquiry
into itself, DoD Press Secretary MajorGeneral Patrick Writer did not address the inherent
conflict of interest in the investigation.I mean That is a great question.

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The Error Office used a very rigorousanalytical scientific approach to investigate all past government
efforts, all claims by interviewees.Wow, none of the agencies that they
spoke with prevented them from getting anyof the information they needed to. So
they sent letters and they asked,do you have any UAPs and they said
no. Interesting here, We've hadabout twelve hundred cases that we've looked at.

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We receive approximately nine, between ninetyand one hundred to one hundred and
ten a month from the operating forces. I would say that we probably on
average around one hundred cases a monthwe are clearing. Have you covered the
nimts? I mean one question,one question I'd like, what about the
nimts? What about the nuclear incidents? Action by Congress are bolstered by junior

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investigation from the DD Inspector General think, I mean, he's finally involved.
Which found the Pentagon's work on upand investigation and reporting so uncoordinated that could
have overlooked national security threats. Certainlytrue, the DD has no overarching UEP
policy YEP lacks assurance through the weekend. Critics of the air reports swarmed X,

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once known as Twitter, with similarlypointed takedowns that shredded the DODS methodology
at length. Particularly the reports sourcingcaught eyes online as readers scoffed at its
lack of transparency. If I submitteda summary judgment brief to a court source
like the air report, my casewould be immediately dismissed. No court would
accept references to my case files,as if that was evidence, said one

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reader. An attorney from South Carolina, where's arrows cited evidence. Mia,
Yeah, they really had no numbersin there except for persons. Yeah,
here's one. Erro is blatantly lying. In the early fifties, the Air
Force contract would sell scientists to reviewall UEP reports. Aero says that all
cases that had enough data were resolvedand explainable. That's definitely not true.

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They do say that the I meanBluebook found Yeah, I've shared this before.
I mean this is from Blue Book. It says here, yeah,
one third, so one third areunknown. This is interesting. Ross Coulthart,
who last year booked the story ofup whistleblower David Grush, pointed out
that Representative Matt Gates was among anumber of lawmakers who had tested to seeing

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firsthand evidence up encounters and programs,firsthand evidence. There is video. For
Folk's sake, there is video ofthis object, this craft hovering, taken
by an American Air Force pilot,Coulthort said in a Weekend interview. So
Daniel Sheehan, defense attorney sharply criticizedArrow's report in an open letter in March

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eighth. She hadn't called the reporta cheap retread of the now utterly threadbare
lives. Yeah, it really is. I mean, reading through it,
I personally know. Shean wrote,the doctor Kirkpatrick and his associates at ARROW
are consciously lying when they falsely assertthat they have provided no substantial evidence of
the existence of a secret U governmentUFO crash retrieval program, because I personally

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provided to doctor Kirkpatrick himself under oaththe fact that I was granted access to
the still classified files a Project blueBook related to the over seven hundred cases
of UFO sightings that could not berationalized as any natural phenomenon that had been
simply mistaken misidentified as a UFO.She wrote, Wow, interesting, the
still classified files of Project blue Book. You know, Project blue Book thirty

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three percent unknown and there was twentytwo pretty interesting cases in there. I've
covered that before as well. Alsohere, Sheehan says I was shown by
official representatives are a US government severalofficial photographs of an active UFO retrieval operation,
he said, adding that he providedample supportive information directly to doctor Kirkpatrick
to enable him in his associates atErrow to identify and locate these files that

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have been specially delivered to the thenbrand new Madison Building basement for my review.
Wow. Interesting. If doctor Kirkpatrickand his staff had made even the
slightest good faith effort to identify andrecover that cash a specific official US government
Blue Book files specially delivered to Washington, from my inspection, they would have
had the proof they now deny havingfound. So. Shehan says he's seen

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US government photos from Project blue Bookof a forty to fifty foot crash UFO
evidence of a legacy retrieval program.A crash flying Sautzer was in any doubt
amazing. Yeah. Lou Alexanda's slamsit as well. He called the report
intentionally dishonest, inaccurate, and dangerouslymisleading. Alessando called on Congress to take

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legislative action for greater transparency and pledgedto continue working with lawmakers to help their
efforts to achieve disclosure. Lou continues, I hold Pentagon. I hold Pentagon
leadership and former Eraror leadership accountable forthis obvious attempt to diminish and embarrassed whistleblowers,
to undermine the truth and ignore theevidence. Their goal is clearly to

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minimize Congressional public scrutiny and to coverup the truth, Alezando said in a
Friday statement which was applauded by aformer head of National Oceananic, and Atmospheric
Administration That must be Tim Galladet.Any of us who have worked the up
topic for the government are aware ofthe ample classified evidence that it has been
provided to ERRO and contradicts this report. This report only makes it more abundantly

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clear to Congress that they must takemore legislative action to demand transparency on the
UAP topic. On behalf of theAmerican people, Alzando said, there's Tim
Burchett, Well interesting, we'll seewhat happens. That was a long but
positive article from Salon so by RayHodge, staff reporter, published just March

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