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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone. Chris later with Later Files and today we
are diving into explosive breaking story. Matthew Brown, a former
Pentagon insider with top secret clearance, just went public as
the whistleblower behind the Immaculate Constellation report. That's a secret
UAP program, an unacknowledged special access program hidden from Congress
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and the public. This is huge. I already had a
video publishing later today on four other amazing interviews, and
now we have this just breaking. Last night, I felt
I had to make a reaction video, so I'll be
reacting to the final part of this jaw dropping interview
with Jeremy Corbel and George Knapp on the Weaponi's podcast.
So Brown lays out why he's risking everything to tell
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the truth. We'll also touch on how the USCI Office,
under folks like Gary Reid and Ronald Moultrie, tied into
silencing whistleblowers like lou Elisondo and Brown talks about and
an interesting giant black triangles were waiting for it. So
buckle up, this is a wild story. Let's get into it.
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Chris Lado, Welcome to Lado.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Files episode of Weaponized. When I was in USDI, I
read the transcripts of Sean k Patrick briefing Senator Rubio,
Senator Warren, and Senator Gillibrand on the results of his
investigation in his congressionally tasked Errow report. You know, I
read these transcripts once and immediately knew that yeah, veiled threat.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I knew that I was now something else I was.
I had inside knowledge into the deception of our government
by elements of our intelligence community. My blood ran cold.
A specific point in that transcript where mister Rubio is
discussing the Legacy Program. This was a subject of direct
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discussion with Sean Kirkpatrick in these meetings, and based on
mister Kirkpatrick's replies about as vigue as they were but
unable to escape the truth of the Legacy Program, mister
Rubio's response was, well, what the hell is the executive
branch doing? Have they been running this for sixty years
without congressional oversight?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Just blockbuster claims. That is the teaser for part two.
So only part one has come out, really going into
Matthew Brown's background and then the very beginning of Immaculate
Constellation and how he found it. But just from that
initial statement, there is just unbelievable. Right, is exactly as
we've been saying, is that Shawn Kirkpatrick has been lying
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out of his Kirkpatrick pants. And you can just see
here the fear and disappointment when Matthew Brown says that, yes,
that's exactly when he knew, says that the Security State
was deceiving and lying to the Congress, and he gives
an example there of a transcript that he was able
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to read because he worked at USDI. That was the
same office that oversaw Louel Zondo's a tip program, and
he says very clearly that Kirkpatrick pants said something completely
not correct, as in lying to three sitting senators. Unbelievable.
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Thanks for being here. Chris Lado retired F sixteen pilot
and I can't do this without your support, So thank
you for listening. There's probably all the other UFO channels
giving their reactions right now, so thank you for watching this.
Please hit the like button if you do like it,
and consider subscribing. Thanks again for being here. So, first off,
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Matthew Brown screams credibility to me. He's not some UFO chaser.
I mean, he was a policy advisor for the Office
of the Secretary of Defense, and he was a technical
advisor in the USDI office, working on weapons of mass destruction,
among other things. So this guy had top secret Special
compartmental Information clearance, that's top circuit SCI clearance, and he
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saw the inner workings of the Pentagon's intelligence world. He
can feel the fear in his voice as he explains
he's risking his life and family's future to come forward
because he thinks and believes it is the right thing
to do. And I fully support him. It is so
we're all going to perish at some point, our nations
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will perish, But what will we be remembered for? And
I think it's integrity first and doing the right thing
does matter and it will go down in history. I
think Matthew Brown will go down in history as a hero.
So that raw emotion plus his resume really makes me
trust him. And here's the kicker too. He worked in
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the same USDI office that went after Elisondo, led by
figures like Gary Reid and Ronald Moultrie who tried to
bury whistleblowers exposing UAPs. Okay, so what was Brown's job?
He was a contractor in the USDI and o USDI
diving into all source intelligence on nuke's, bioweapons and more.
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And I've known many contractors who I would easily and
did go to war with. Felt the same for them
as I did for my military brethren. So he had
access to j Wicks. That's the DoD's super secret Internet.
It's on a separate whole network than the Sipper, but
that's where he could pull live feeds from Reaper Jones.
He could also sift through decades of classified data, so
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that's how he stumbled on UAP videos and the Immaculate
Constellation file. The Immaculate Constellation file was actually on a
SIPPER net. I think the brief was put there by mistake,
and so his role gave him visibility into the fallout
from programs like a tip run by Elizondo and the
usdi's efforts Underred and Moultriey to clamp down on whistleblowers.
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So Brown wasn't read into Immaculate Constellation, but his access
led him to basically see the file, and I think
that's why he can speak out now, is he wasn't
read into it. What was really interesting to me is
how the atmosphere inside the intelligence community just totally changed
after the twenty seventeen New York Times story broke about
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a tip. Brown says the intelligence community was buzzing, so
people shared UAP data openly, said they were positive about it.
It felt like people were finally relieved that they could
actually talk about this stuff for once. But he said,
he watched that die. He watched that effort die. So
the USDI, under leaders I would speculate, such as Gary
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Reid and later Ronald Moultrie, who was the lead from
twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three, I think they
tighten the screws and so mentioning David Grush at all
became a career ender in some agencies. Brown said it
was a word of mouth from management that if you
even mentioned David Grush, you would be fired or removed.
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And so David Grush came out in twenty twenty three.
So I believe that would be under the auspice of
Ronald Boultry, right, that's when he was the leader. So
Brown saw this clamp down firsthand, and it mirrors what
happened to Elizondo, who faced pushback from USTI for exposing
a tip. So it's a pattern silence anyone who dares
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talk about UAPs. So listen to this clip when George
Knapp asked about working at the Pentagon.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, so, I mean started with the first part. I
think for me at least, Yeah, it was what I
finally made it right, I'm working out the Pentagon. It's cheesy,
but I felt pride pretty much every single day that
I rolled in there. That's not cheesy, but I look
back on that time with a lot of happiness.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
How do things begin to sour?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Is it because of this topic that we're able to discuss.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yes, that's just amazing, right, and you can see why
our current trust in government in the United States is
the lowest it's ever been. I saw a Pew poll
that it was sixteen percent. That's how many Americans actually
trust their government. And it's because of things like this.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You have people inside the government seeing that they are lying,
obviously lying. Kirkpatrick pants lying directly to three sitting senators
and he knows sitting there and is just going to
eat away at the inside of the organization.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
The more that this information gets passed out, more people
realize that, yeah, they have no integrity, right, They're lying
to protect what Brown goes on to talk about seeing
a parallel reality where secrecy serves an elite view, he says,
a internationalist cabal. He says, it's corrupted and infested every
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part of society. So, as a former F sixteen pilot,
I know what it's like to trust the system, right,
You're taught integrity first, service before self excellence and all
we do. But discovering a cover up of this big
If you guys realized I freaked out last year, it's
because this this really kind of breaks your whole worldview,
And yeah, stings. But the question is can the government
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come out of it? I think it can, right, but
you have to come clean. Transparency is going to be
the only medicine for this. Sunlight kills all viruses, right,
does it kill all evil? So what Brown is really
exposing here is he's exposing an amazing betrayal of all
of our trust right in the name of national security.
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But I think it's just in the name of fear
to protect their own power. I guess future careers agency
honor doesn't deserve honor. No one misses the KGB. I
think we'd be fine without this cabal. So how did
Brown find immaculate Constellation. It was pure accident. He was
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sorting misfiled documents on a USDI shared server on the cipernet,
that's the secret Internet, when he opened a twenty eighteen
Shreever wargrames file. So in the interview they say Shreiver,
but we always called it Shriever. I've never been to
that base. Inside was a slide deck naming Immaculate Constellation
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as an unacknowledged special access program and it had Leuel
Zondo on the second slide. So so that was set
up after Louel Azondo's twenty seventeen A tip leaks and
it wasn't marked classified. So Brown did and sign an
NDA for it. And I think that might be his
legal shield against prosecution. But as he says in the interview,
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he's still facing life imprisonment or worse for going public.
So why is Brown doing this? Let's check out his
own words here.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Well, if it was just technology that we are worried
about protecting and maintaining humilitary advantage, you know, there's strong
arguments to be made and have successfully been made for
decades in this country that the American leadership and American
people seem to be finding acceptable to be left in
the dark about you know where science, technology and their
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military is taking them. This isn't just technology, This isn't
something somebody came up with in a lab. And it's
sensitive because once the cats have the bag, anybody can
do it. Fundamentally, This comes from, in his secondary to
what we've been told is the biggest question, which is
humanity alone. The answer is no, and the secrecy that
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has been defended is at the cost of, in my mind,
human dignity, freedom and progress. And it is no longer
permissible or acceptable in my mind to continue this course
to deprive another generation of not just Americans, but humanity
with their birthright to know who they are, where they
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came from, and what's with us.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
So that is just such a hard hitting quote, and
his delivery obviously strained, But man, this interview has so
many quotes like that. He says, we've built an invisible
prison around ourselves. There's still time to alter our trajectory
as humanity. A damn sight better than what they have
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planned for. And that's why speaking out, and that's why
I can't believe more people haven't spoken out up until now.
And maybe they have, and they've just been silenced by
this invisible prison, as he calls it. So Brown's fighting
for our right to know that we're not alone, right,
He says it very clearly. I think at this point
it's pretty obvious we're not alone in the universe with
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trillions and trillions of galaxies. If you think about that,
we're definitely not alone. I think it'd be pretty arrogant
to assume we are the only life forms in this place.
We have knowledge, really intricate knowledge of one planetary system
and it has life, right, and we assume that the
other billions and trillions of planetary systems don't have any life.
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So I think it is our right to know that
we're not alone, and it's ridiculous that we're kept in
the dark. So he's risking everything because he believes humanity's
future hangs in the balance. He says, there there's still
time to alter our trajectory, a damn sight better than
what they have planned for us. Question is who is they?
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So the blockbuster information coming in the next part is
Brown read a classified transcript of arrows Sean Kirkpatrick briefing
Senators Rubio, Warren and Jillibrand. Rubio asked about a legacy program,
a sixty year up cover up with no congressional oversight,
and so Rubio snapped, what the hell is the executive
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branch doing? Brown says his blood ran cold, knowing at
that moment that the government was lying and keeping the
Congress and the people in the dark. So personally, I
think we need a subpoena. Kirkpatrick pants, you know why
did he lie to Rubio? Ask him under oath? See
what he says in public under oath, like David Grush
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is done and louel Azondo and the other whistleblowers. This
shows the USDI secrecy under folks like Moultrie likely goes
all the way to the top.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
So what do you mean if you mentioned certain whistle
bush whoo, David Grush? You can't mention David Grush in
certain professional settings or you are f fuck.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, if you're not fired, you are in for a
very rough time, is my understanding. Ella Zondo? You know
I didn't hear Elizondo as a no.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Go word saying Davids testified in open Congress, So that
makes sense.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
So what have you.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Seen it happen? Have you seen people like mention his name?
How do you become away. You can't even talk about him.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So that specific example, herd FO a friend at that agency,
that was essentially the word of mouth from management. Nothing
written in paper, nothing in emails, but what it sounds
like people got a conversation with their leadership. And we're
told as much as we've just gone over and his
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name was absolutely the first end experience sort of radioactive
in the chap writs it would either all of a sudden,
these people that never participate are they're really slamming him
and slamming the people talking.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
About him on the classified internet in our space is
when we've talked about about it, that these these were
people had open dialogue. It just got to clamp down.
And his name was part of that. That's what you
meant when you said certain people are radio active. You
can't mention their names, right, Okay, goodness and good Yeah,
we're nowhere nuclear he's radio act Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So David Crush came out in June of twenty twenty
three and he went on Ross Culthart's show, right, did
the interview with Ross Coultart, and then a month later
he was in the hearings. Right, if you remember those hearings,
I was actually there, and so I'm wondering, well, the
same thing happened.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
If we have Matthew Brown coming going public with journalists,
will he in two weeks be at the May thirteenth hearing,
that would be remarkable.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Okay, with different designation.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Yeah, so you're seeing these videos and some limited discussion.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
You can't really openly talk about it, but you're curious,
You're you're kind of hooked on the topic.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, And to be clear, twenty eighteen, when this first
exposure happened, and for about a few years after it
was it did at least feel more open. Looking back
on it, this was probably a counterintelligence prerogative at the time,
but it was allowed to exist, the discussion was allowed
to exist, and it felt more like, you know, people
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were excited to finally actually be able to talk about
this and finally be able to try to compare notes
figure it out.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Well, it's when the UAP Task Force was created. They
didn't call it that, but it was up and running
and they were trying to make entreaties out to the
intelligence community and DoD Hey, they wanted input from and partners.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, so I saw that emerge and I saw it die.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So we saw that emerge in twenty eighteen and it
was a positive atmosphere, and then he saw it die.
So I'd be curious to see exactly when that happened,
because Ron Maltzy took over in twenty twenty one and
David Grush didn't go public till mid twenty twenty three,
so his name was toxic radioactive after David Grush came out,
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so towards the end of twenty twenty three, and that
could be when Kirkpatrick took over AERO and maybe whoever
was directing Kirkpatrick to say all these things or possibly
to lie, was also directing the members in USTI, right,
the leadership there.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Exposure. We're going to get into this, but you mean it. Technically,
it is called spillage.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
It's when you see something that is of a compartmentalized
or nature that you are not specifically clear to see,
and you were exposed to something and it was like,
holy shit, what is this? And the first thoughts of
that I'm interested in. So if we're at that point, yeah, okay,
so let's talk about that. Look, the whole world that
knows about incon a maculate constellation we're saying that word
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out loud. At one time that was very dangerous to
say out loud to write to text.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
We should talk about that. But before this is your gateway,
This is the entrance point. What happened, How did it happen?
What did you did you see? What did you think?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Okay, first I'll say is the names of these programs
are super classified. Right, You're not going to say the
names of any unacknowledged SAPP. Unacknowledged means you don't acknowledge it, right,
it's a covert black program. And we've had these in
the past. So the Blackbird that was an unacknowledged SAP program,
the B two was a us APP, the Nighthawk was
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a USAP. So these are programs you're not going to admit.
They're not on the books, so it's an odd acknowledged
And we have other programs that are acknowledged special access programs.
So I think like a TIP was an acknowledged special
access program, meaning you can't talk about it. It's obviously
super secret, but it's not odd acknowledged, not fully black.
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They reserve that for the super secret programs, right.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, So the first exposure or the exposure to maclet
constellation happened on a shared server that was shared by
all the offices in OSD. What I was doing throughout,
what I was doing at the time was opening files
that were clearly misfiled and either sorting them to our offices,
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you know, part of that server, or putting them in
their own box to be sorted by other responsible your jobs.
I mean, this is more like volunteer duty.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
But yes, so, because you're a workaholic and you're curious
and you read a lot, you come across a file
that really is what leads us to being here today.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
It's this.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
It's the Shreiber file.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, so it was labeled twenty eighteen Schreiver wargame. Might've
been prief for something else, but that's it. There's nothing
about that that screams, you know, it's a very interesting thing.
In fact, usually a lot of wargame briefs are pretty boring,
so there's nothing that's so.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I think it's called Shriever. I don't know. Maybe if
you only read it then you call it shriver. But anyway,
that is a I believe it's a space force base,
and so to do wargames, they do wargames all the time,
but to have a unclassified brief in there saying it's
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a use app, it's really interesting to me. And I
don't know. This may be the biggest point of contention, right,
is how is that on a cypernet?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
If anything is unacknowledged or I think any SAP has
to be on Jwicks, So you're not going to be
transmitting that on cypernet. Sipernet goes everywhere. Jaywicks has its
own separate fiber and everything, right, so you can tell
if people are tapping in.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Accidental exposure for you one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
You go into it and what do you see.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
There's just a generic title slide. There's a banner without
classification marketings that just says immaculate constellation and it has
a placeholder slide that shows like the Schreiver or Shriver
Air Base logo and some logos of the units involved.
But at that time, I believe it would have still
been like Air Force Space Commands adjacent.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Okay, So Strever Air Force Base now Space Force Base
was established as a US Space Force base in twenty
nineteen and it's in Colorado Springs, Colorado. So that's where
Norad is located, so it's a key hub for US
space operations and it's primarily managed by the US Space
Forces Space Operations Command, so they're known for hosting wargame series.
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But in twenty eighteen, the actual Shriver Wargame twenty eighteen
was hosted at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama. That's
the headquarters of Air Force and Space Force Education, right,
that's where we all go for our military education. And
that wargame was set in the year twenty twenty eight
focused on a global scenario with emphasis on the US
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Indo Pacific Command Area of responsibility, so guessing against China essentially.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So still nothing particularly stunning. I think the name at
the top probably just the name of the exercise. So
the next slide, though, is where it gets interesting because
the face of Luela Zondo is on that next slide
and I was not who I was expecting to see,
and it was accompanied by text to summarize, please have
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some grace with me. It's been seven years, but it
was saying that. Immaculate Constellation is an unacknowledged special access
program established after the exposure of a tip in twenty
seventeen by former USDI Officer Luela Zondo, and you know,
that's the gist of that first slide, and so I'm
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looking at that and you know, nothing particularly convincing that
that's alien related or what the SAP is or what
it's doing. So I don't know what to make of this.
So I read the whole thing and it got very interesting,
very quick.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
So it's designated a SAP. You know, this is a SAP.
It's sitting on a server. Maybe it shouldn't be on
correct right, So I think that's important. And also it
seems like it's just a response to the public spillage
or exposure that we saw come forward with people like
and specifically Louel Azando. This was like an internal classified
response to the fact, oh shit, some of this is
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out now.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, that's exactly the tone of those words of that slide,
and that's the implied order of events that led to
being established.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
It's like twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Maybe, yeah, the file was at least last accessed in
twenty eighteen. I can't remember if it did, say you know,
the file creation nator if I looked it up, but
I know it was last access.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
And you see who's access to it prior to you,
I can and what did you see? So everyone says
that I'm wrong, it's impossible. But the name I recall
and recalled at the time, thinking oh that's odd.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Was name redacted? And did you know who that was?
Vaguely at that time? I you know, people are considered
superstars in the leadership circles, so you just hear names
like that, and that's what her name was.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Why would that be impossible? Why are people now and directors?
Why are people telling you that would be impossible?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Oh, she wasn't at the Pentagon? Then where was she?
She was at the Pentagon to my knowledge, but they're
saying she wasn't there, right, interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So all right, okay, so didn't give a name there,
but he said she. I mean, the only she I
know in defense circles is Susan Goff right, and Gospel
was as the DoD's UEP spokesperson since twenty nineteen. That
ties her to the secrecy. Brown describes there's a lot
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of exposts accusing her of manipulating UEP information and lying
about a tip alsops. She's the one that came out,
I believe initially and said that Louie al Zondo didn't work,
didn't work at a tip Golf was named in Loui
Alzando's twenty twenty one DODIG complaint for providing inaccurate statements
about his A tip role, allegedly coached by Gary Reid,
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so this ties her to the usdi's efforts to suppress
UAP whistleblowers, which Brown's Immaculate Constellation file basically exposed right
as they just said, they're exposed by lou Alizondo on
the second slide. Quite interesting. Also reasons it might not
be her is she focused on public affairs, so she
wasn't like an intelligence operative, so typically these sort of
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files only accessed by intelligence professionals, not like media personnel.
So her SYA background might have given her clearance, but
it's unclear if she'd have reason to access such a file. Also,
her documented Pentagon statements start in twenty nineteen, so that
suggests she may not have been in a position to
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act says classified USDI servers in twenty eighteen, but that
could also mean it was impossible because she wasn't working there,
so how could she have access. So the redaction of
the name does suggest high sensitivity, possibly someone more directly
tied to UAP programs than GoF I don't know, what
do you guys think, who could that be? Let me
know in the comments which you think.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
So shreiver war games us keep reading. There's a big
slide with Louella Zondo's face on it. What comes next?
I mean you get a sense that I shouldn't be
able to read this here.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
No, not yet. Actually, to be clear, at that point
in time, I had no formal training in what SAPs were.
There was no SAP marking on this.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Just you had no formal training on what SAPs were.
It's just going through doing the housekeeping.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
A name, immaculate constellation. The opening slide, you know, just
we would call it improperly labeled, improperly classified?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
What the show? So the next slide, the third slide
about just jumps straight into the mission of this SAPP
and showing what apparently the results of that mission are.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
And it's.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
A collection incident in the Pacific Ocean. The subject of
collection is several Russian naval intelligence vessels in the middle
of the ocean at night, and above those vessels is
a large black triangle floating in the air. This is
a still image, but it is a color.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Okay, so that's the first kind of event. But what
was the mission? What was the mission? That's what people
want to know is what was the mission of a
macular constellation as described in the product.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
So in the product itself you had to piece together
the mission by reading the whole thing and kind of
putting together the parts. You know, it never spelled out
fully like as it should the mission of the SAP.
And I assume that's because this is a type of
brief where there were be inserts to the deck which
would be inserted by the SAPP control officer during the briefing.
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That would provide another level of detail.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
So that does make me think you do have some
briefings right where you can take out the actual higher
classified information, right, Like I've had briefings before where the
briefing would be unclassified and then you would just verbally
say here is the secret information, so that you if
you're in a secret room, right, you can carry around
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your unclassified briefing as a guide, but then you talk
to the secret or you could even do different things,
right and you could have a secret brief and then
talk to a top secret or potentially you could have
a secret brief like possibly this could be and then
talk to the actual elements of it that are SAP related.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But based on the information included in there and its description,
emission becomes apparent. And that is a bare minimum. It's
the intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance mission of a global nature
for UAPs and r vs ARVs. The hesitation there is
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sometimes pasted. One of those acronyms is in there, either
RV or ARV, and that is how the triangle in
this case was.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Labeled then seven years, so as you're reading through this
and that you're remembering r V or ARB just for
our audience.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
So RB is you know, reverse reproduction adoption vehicle. Yeah,
and the ARV would mean an you knowst reproduction.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You know, we see people in the literature say alien
reproduction vehicle. It could just be anomalous advance or advances.
It could be anything that can go after a So
you don't know what.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
That is, so ARV interesting there. He says that in
the report, the black Triangle is labeled as an ARV,
so an alien reproduction vehicle or a reproduction vehicle. And
we've heard these claims for years, right, Stephen Career has
been saying talking about alien reproduction vehicles that are out there.
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You look at what my carera is Indonesian event that's
basically sounds like a alien or anomalist reproduction vehicle, some
sort of reproduction vehicle. So very interesting. This is actually
a intercept right where Russian sounds like surveillance vehicles he says,
are waiting out in the ocean, and this black triangle
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basically appears and it's labeled as a reproduction vehicle.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Think of that, My don't.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
This is a pretty interesting image here it is, And
then the text of the companies it describes the incident
and what can you tell us?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
The summary of that is just how it unfolded. I
should I should actually back up and say the image
itself was unique. This isn't by a plane or a satellite.
It looks to be a image pretty close to the waterline.
So something that to me read as we have a
clandestine submersible asset close by this fleet and it's taking
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pictures trying to stay unnoticed. And so yes. In the description,
it basically lays out what occurred that night, which was
that they are collection assets where they're in area monitoring
Russian naval vessels. Not sure what they're doing there, but
they've been hanging out in the middle of the ocean
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in this place apparently for a few days keep an
eye on him. And this night, while they are observing
the Russian vessels, a large black triangle materializes or de
cloaks or something. The point is is, it did not move.
It appeared above the directly above these ships, probably no
more than two hundred meters, pretty close, and interestingly, as
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noted in the report it self, there was no visible
reaction from these vessels from what would almost certainly be
considered a hostile approach.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
What do you what do you take away from that
they didn't notice it, or they're not upset about it,
or they don't know what to do with it.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Or what. So the implication also in the text describing
it was, I'm sorry I should say the analysis in
the text was that the Russian Navy had fore knowledge
that this vehicle would appear in that area of the ocean,
and they were there specifically to either collect on it
themselves or to interact with it in some way.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So that's just amazing. So you have these surveillance ships
out there and they're just waiting out in the middle
of the ocean for days. Right, So they're in that
location and miraculously this giant black triangle sounds like a
tr three B right, people have been saying for years,
just materialize us out of nowhere, right or cloaks whatever
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he says materializes appears and they don't react. So the
text says that they were waiting for it, they knew
this was going to happen, to go right underneath it.
It's just amazing. How would the Russians know this was
going to happen? Did they communicate with this craft? Is
it their craft? Is it their machine? Because David Grush
(34:12):
did say that there is a Cold War going on
behind the scenes and Russia, US and China are all involved,
and so is this part of that Cold war ops
going on? And we're just left in the dark. So
Brown says, it's a global program. As you heard there,
(34:32):
so immaculate constellation made in twenty eighteen with lou Alizondo's
face on it, talking about the exposure to a tip.
Remember this is in USDI and now as Brown says,
it's a internationalist cabal, it sounds like so this is
all the conspiracy theories. Everyone's been saying, this is what
doctor Stephen Grier has been talking about for years, and
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everyone says he's insane. Right, Alien reproduction vehicles, giant black triangles,
you have RUSSI and waiting out in the ocean. I mean,
it's just unbelievable. And Brown says he's risking life, imprisonment
or execution. And he says, I'm giving up the future
I made for myself. He tried legal channels, working with Congress,
but the system, including usdi's red and it possibly Moultrie,
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blocked him. So going public is his shield. I think so.
Like David Grush before his twenty twenty three testimony. With
the up hearing set for May thirteenth, twenty twenty five,
Brown could testify, especially with lawmakers like Nancy Mace pushing hard.
So I think Brown could actually finally blow the lid
off this thing, or at least makes a serious dent
(35:39):
in it. Personally, I'm just so excited, man, There's just
so much information coming out. I can barely keep up.
I think Matthew Brown is a hero. We have several
other heroes exposing a USDI machine. It was initially led
by Gary Reid. I believe Ronald Moultrie is probably going
to be found complicit in this that silenced whistleblowers like
Ella's on. Brown found UAP evidence in a random Shriver
(36:04):
wargame file revealing a secret program and a government that
he says is obviously lying to us. And that's really
when he soured on the whole thing, right, working at
the Pentagon soured on it sounds like his country, and
I agree, sixteen percent of Americans don't trust their government
and you can say clearly why because they are gaslighting us.
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It sounds like so amazing news. Go check out the
actual podcast link in the description. Part two is coming
out this week and I believe part three will be
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Talk about Immaculate constellation with their friends and family, although
they woul probably think you're crazy, at least talk on
X and demand transparency. Big question, right, are we alone?
(36:49):
Brown says No, We've heard that from many other people,
Carl Dell, Louis Alizondo for it from so many. At
this point, I think we can pretty much say confidently
that we are not alone in the universe. And if
they haven't destroyed us yet then I don't think we
really have anything to fear as long as we don't
destroy ourselves. It sounds like so Brown's risking his life
(37:11):
to prove it. Thanks so much to Matthew Brown, Thank
you're a hero. Thanks to Alex Wiggins, Thanks to Ben
the recent anonymous whistleblower that helps as well. Thanks to
Harold Malgram and doctor People, all the people who are
pushing for disclosure, Louel Zondo, even Lester nare so many
people I've had on the show. So we're going to
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