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June 22, 2025 17 mins
Did the Pentagon Just Admit UFOs Are Real? Pentagon UFO Director Dr. Jon Kosloski—an NSA expert with advanced degrees in mathematics, physics, and engineering—just testified to Congress about "anomalous objects" that defy explanation. Despite his extensive scientific background, this top government physicist admitted AARO has documented cases involving objects accelerating 10-100x faster than any known drone, large metallic cylinders that simply "disappear," "blacker than black" objects with impossible flight characteristics, and over 1,600 UAP reports with many remaining unexplained. The key quote: "we do have some very anomalous objects." But there's more: AARO's own data shows major gaps. The UK appears virtually blank on their 1996-2024 reporting chart, despite documented cases like the January 12, 2007 RAF Lakenheath incident where US F-15 pilots intercepted an unknown object they described as looking "like a rock." When even a top NSA scientist with access to classified UAP data admits these objects are "anomalous" and beyond current understanding, this may be the closest thing to official disclosure we've seen. Key Topics Covered:
  • Pentagon's admission of "anomalous objects"
  • Dr. Kosloski's NSA credentials and scientific background
  • AARO data gaps and reporting inconsistencies
  • RAF Lakenheath F-15 pilot encounter
  • What this means for UAP disclosure
Episode Chapters: 00:00 - Pentagon's "anomalous objects" admission 02:30 - NSA expert credentials 05:45 - Data gaps exposed 08:20 - F-15 pilot encounter 11:15 - What this means Sources: November 19, 2024 Congressional UAP Hearing, Stars and Stripes, AARO Documentation Link to The Black Vault Originals video of Kosloski interview: https://youtu.be/T1CzaBgVDao?si=DLig8oo43r0o69tA Chris Lehto is a former F-16 pilot with 18 years of experience in the Air Force. He managed multi-million dollar simulator contracts, was an Electronic Attack SME for the Aggressors (OPFOR), and commanded the US Detachment at TLP for NATO Fighter Pilot Training. Chris fought in Iraq for 5 months in 2006. He spent 3 years in Turkey as an exchange pilot and is fluent in Turkish. Chris is also a certified crash safety investigator, having investigated Air Force accidents for four years. Lehto has a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry-Materials Science from the Air Force Academy and a Master's in Aeronautical Science from Embry-Riddle University. Follow on social: X: https://x.com/LehtoFiles YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVNKdkLzWuy1oLuCuCv4NCA Support: https://www.patreon.com/chrislehto

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
AERO does not believe every object is a bird, a balloon,
or a UAV. We do have some very anomalous objects.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
November fourteenth, twenty twenty four, something unprecedented happened. The director
of the Pentagon's UFO Investigation Office, a man with over
twenty years of experience in quantum physics and advanced optics,
sat in front of reporters and made an omission that
should change something at least, if not everything. Doctor John Koslowski,

(00:28):
the head of AERO the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office,
looked directly at the press and said, quote, there are
interesting cases that I, with my physics and engineering background
and time in the intelligence community, I do not understand,
and I don't know anybody else who understands them either.
So let that sink in. The Pentagon's top UFO investigator,

(00:51):
a man who spent decades at the NSA working on
the most classified physics projects imaginable, just admitted that there
are objects flying around that defy everything he knows about science,
and what he revealed next might just change your perspective.

(01:12):
Chris Lado, Welcome to LATO files. Thanks for being here.
I'm Chris Lado, retired f sixteen pilot, Please hit the
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Before we dive into what has this physics expert so baffled,

(01:32):
you need to understand exactly who doctor Koslowski is because
his credentials make his admission revolutionary. For over two decades,
Costlosi worked in the Research Directorate of the National Security Agency,
so that's the NSA's most classified scientific division. He specialized
in quantum optics, cryptomthematics, and what the government calls advanced

(01:55):
mission oriented research. So he isn't some random government bureaucrat.
Kosloski is a man who literally invented advanced search engines.
He served as the NSA subject matter expert in free
space optics and advised multiple Defense Department agencies on cutting
edge physics. According to his official Pentagon biography, Costlosi holds

(02:19):
a PhD in electrical engineering from Johns Hopkins University, with
bachelor's degrees in mathematics and physics. The Pentagon specifically chose
him to lead AERO. So when a man with his background,
someone who has access to the most classified physics research
on Earth, says there are objects that he cannot explain
using any known science. We should listen. I think we

(02:42):
do have a problem because if John Koslowski doesn't understand
the physics behind what they're seeing, that these objects are
operating on principles that our most advanced scientists haven't even
discovered yet, or at least it's not in the public domain.
So let's look at the specific cases. During his November
nineteenth testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee, Kloskowsky didn't

(03:06):
just make vague statements. He gave specific examples of what
ARROW has been investigating, and the details are mine bending.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Three cases that merit analysis that we're working on right now.
One we might be in the process of resolving, but
nonetheless is still interesting. The first one was brought to
us by a law enforcement officer out west where he
observed a large orange ORB floating several hundred feet above
the ground a couple miles away. He went to investigate
what was going on with that ORB, and as he

(03:36):
was pulling up to the location where he thought would
be below the ORB, about forty to sixty meters away
from some object that was the area was well lit,
he saw a blacker than black object. He said it
was about the size of a prius four to six
feet wide, and as he got forty to sixty meters
away from the object, it tilted up about forty five

(03:57):
degrees and then it shot up vertically. He says ten
to one hundred times faster than any drone he's ever
seen before, and it did that without making a sound
as far as he could tell from inside of his vehicle,
and just as it left his field of view through
his windshield, then it emitted very bright red and blue
lights that he limited he illuminated the inside of his

(04:18):
vehicle as brightly as if someone had set off fireworks
just outside his vehicle or street flares. So that's anomalous
because of the size of the vehicle with the great acceleration,
and when he came back to investigate that area, he
found no disturbance of the ground beneath it.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
He says, ten to one hundred times faster than any
drone he's ever seen before. So now to put this
in perspective, the fastest military drones like the MQ nine Reaper,
have a maximum speed of about three hundred miles per hour,
and even high end surveillance drones like the RQ one
seventy that's the sentinel can only reach five hundred miles
an hour. If we're talking about a normal drone, you're

(04:58):
looking at maximums. Say, I don't know one hundred miles
an hour. So in that case, we're talking about an
object still moving at speeds of one thousand to ten
thousand miles per hour. So that's faster than most missiles
and definitely faster than the speed of sound. So that's
approaching the speed of objects entering Earth's atmosphere from space.

(05:22):
Koslowski also described a second unresolved case involving a stationary
cylinder hovering over a US facility in the Southwest before
abruptly vanishing.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
So that's one interesting one. Another one comes to us
from southeast US. There was a US facility where two
cars of government contractors were leaving the facility around nine
o'clock in the morning. They looked up in the sky
and saw a large metallic cylinder about the size of
a commercial airplane, and it was stationary. They observed that

(05:53):
there was a very bright white light behind or around
the object. They saw it stationary for fifteen to twenty seconds,
and then it disappeared. Obviously, an object that large stationary
unless it's a blimp, is unusual, but then disappearing, we
can't explain how that would happen.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
As Coslasi said, a stationary object that large, unless it's
a blimp, is unusual, but its sudden disappearance is something
we can't explain.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
And then the last case was interesting. We had a
aircraft that was flying parallel to another aircraft and it
was capturing imagery of it, and a small looking object
appeared to fly between the two of them much faster
than them. Through very careful analysis, we think that the
object might have actually been further away than the object

(06:40):
that it was videotaping. But it requires very careful analysis
to come to those conclusions, and we don't have the
metadata to support that.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
So these aren't distant lights or blurry photos that were
seeing in the mainstream. These are close range encounters with
objects displaying impossible flight characteristics by trained observers and documented
by the Pentagon's top physicist. To understand why Kosloski's emission
is so significant, need to grasp what these objects are

(07:11):
actually doing that violate known physics. When error defines something
as anomalists, they're using very specific criteria. According to Koslowski's
official statement to Defense Scoop. They define it as beyond
state of the art today and beyond where we think
we could get in the next couple of years. So

(07:32):
think about that definition. The Pentagon isn't just saying these
objects are better than our current technology. They're saying these
objects are pass where they project human technology will be
years from now. But it gets even more significant. Aero's
annual report confirms that they have no verified indications that
any potential adversarial foreign governments may have achieved a breakthrough

(07:54):
capability that could possibly explain these objects. So we're not
talking about secret Chinese or Russian technology. We're talking about
objects that demonstrate capabilities that no nation on Earth possesses.
Here's what makes this even more credible. As of December
twenty twenty four, Aero has officially reached full operation capability.

(08:17):
The system's fully operational, meaning they now have the personnel,
facilities and technology to conduct full comprehensive investigations. They've deployed
their prototype sensor system called Gremlin for pattern of life
collection at classified national security sites. Koslowski, with his quantum
optics background, would also understand advanced propulsion concepts that most

(08:38):
scientists can't even imagine. For him to say he doesn't
understand what they're seeing means these objects are operating on
physical principles that our most classified research hasn't even approached,
or at least he can't even consider it in the
next several years. Here's what doctor Kosloski's admission really means
in why it represents a historic moment in government transparency. First,

(09:01):
we were witnessing the end of decades of denial, despite
the setbacks with the UAP hearings, despite all the claims
in the government that we've heard, era's latest annual report
reveals they have received over sixteen hundred UAP reports, with
twenty one cases deemed so significant they require ongoing investigation.

(09:23):
So these aren't just random sightings. Three of these cases
involved military pilots being trailed or shadowed by UAP, So
this is the reporting data that Koslowski briefed in his
testimony up reporting trends January first, nineteen ninety six to
October tenth, twenty twenty four. So this isn't going to

(09:43):
include all of the UAP sightings over military bases that
started in November, so that's missing all this data essentially,
So what's interesting is there's an increase up to six
point one percent of fifty and feet. I don't know
why that would be. Not many planes except the Raptor

(10:05):
F twenty two really fly up that high, and so
I wonder maybe it's because if you're a global hawk
maybe flies up there. So not sure why six point
one percent. But most of the encounters is from twenty
to twenty five thousand, which cost LASSI says is due
to being in the prime area of our normal operations

(10:26):
and you had the closed cases resolution outcomes. This is interesting.
So satellites is only one percent. I thought it would
be just way higher, right, but only one percent, even
though he talks about starlink and mega constellations. So the
vast majority seventy five percent is balloons, and really a
balloon can be in any shape and yeah, difficult to identify.

(10:47):
You have sixteen percent, is drones other one percent, and
aircraft again is only one percent. So aircraft and satellites
are only two percent. Birds is at six percent. But
then the vast majority, like I said, is balloons, So
ninety one percent is going to be balloons and drones.
And then reported UAP morphology, and he mentioned this again

(11:10):
in his testimony. Forty six percent is lights and then
thirty one percent is or round sphere, So seventy seven
percent is going to be lights or or browne sphere.
Other than that you have ambiguous sensor contacts five percent,
So one in twenty or ambiguous sensors contacts. One in

(11:31):
twenty are also other that's five percent, and then one
in twenty are cylinders. It's five percent. He mentioned cylinders
and even gives a case. And then disc is one percent,
triangle three percent, square polygon is three percent, and then
a tic tac shape is two percent, which is interesting.
And then really the biggest note I have for this

(11:53):
is there's nothing, no reporting in Europe. So where I
flew out of Avey on a air base here right
around Italy, there's just zero reporting. And then around the
UK as well, there's zero reporting. And I know we've
had at least one case of a UEP in that timeframe.
Just to highlight that I'm not crazy, or at least

(12:15):
according to this, there was a report from two thousand
and seven out of RAF Mildenhall. US Air Force officials
said last week that the reported UFO encountered by fighter
jets from the forty eighth Fighter Wing earlier this year
wasn't either exceptionally identified or extraterrestrial. The floating object seen
by pilots in the skies over the United Kingdom on

(12:35):
January twelfth was part of a weather balloon. Forty eighth
Fighter Wing spokeswoman Master Sergeant Renee Kirkland said that explanation
runs somewhat contrary to the belief of UFO enthusiasts, who
claim a recording they have obtained of two US pilots
investigating an unknown object in the sky suggest it was
something else. Chris Roll from the group UFO Monitors East Kent,

(12:58):
said that after hearing the recording, he had a heart
time believing it was something described in the words of
a ministry official official as no bigger than a football.
We rather doubt that, Rolf said. We're not saying they're
little green men from Mars. It could be anything, and
so this from the recording. The pilot said, there was
something there. It looked like uh garbled. It didn't look

(13:19):
like a bird. It looked like, no kidding, a rock
to me, said one pilot, whose voice is heard most
frequently on the tape. I have no idea what it was,
but basically try to stay away from seventeen thousand feet.
I have no idea what it was. The pilot describes
attaining and then losing a radar lock in the object,
before a second voice is heard, Dude, I can't tell
something small, very small black object. I had it at

(13:40):
seventeen seven. It just flew right over me, the second
voice says. The three voices on the tape later talk
of trying to ascertain the speed of the object, judging
it to be traveling anywhere from between thirty knots and
eighty knots to flying stationary and hovering between seventeen thousand
feet and eighteen thousand feet. The two pilots appear to
arrange several native passes near the object to get a

(14:02):
better look at it. All right, I'm going to come
up slightly here. I'm going to try and look at it,
and then you follow him behind me if you can,
the first pilot says. Then seconds later, dude, I have
no idea what that is. So could that be a balloon?
I think, yes, you know, I think it could be
a balloon. But it's still a reported UAP, you know,

(14:24):
if they're not calling it resolved. But here they have
closed cases, resolved cases, twenty eight years of reporting and
there's no cases in Europe. That's really strange to me.
So from safety reporting, that means you're just not getting
any reporting if there's no incidents at all, So something's
broken in Europe. Still. Second, this represents a fundamental shift

(14:49):
and government approach. As Costlasi stated during his November congressional testimony,
AERO does not believe that every object is a bird,
a balloon, or UAV. We do have some very non
less objects. So he has confirmed there are anomalous objects
and he can't understand them. Third, and perhaps most importantly,
AERO is now actively working towards transparency. At least it

(15:13):
appears that way from cost Lassi. Koslowski confirmed they're planning
a declassification workshop to implement best practices across the Department
of Defense and Intelligence community. I know many of you
are pessimistic on this, don't consider that the government will
ever be transparent, but at least from Costlosi's words and actions,

(15:33):
it seems like they may be leaning that direction. In
my interview with lou Elizondo, he also said it could
be changing. So what's the bottom line. As Koslowski told
reporters in is November briefing, there are interesting cases that
I do not understand, and I don't know anybody else
who understands. We recognize that the types of cases that
I was just talking about are, from my perspective, true anomalies,

(15:57):
and we're going to need significant scientific rigor to address those.
After decades of denial, the government's top physicist has just
confirmed that we are not alone in demonstrating advanced technology
on this planet. Question isn't whether these objects exist anymore.
The question is what happens when we finally understand what

(16:17):
they are, and based on what doctor Koslowski has seen,
we might not be ready for that answer. Ero is
set to release volume two of their historical UAP report
in the coming months, and they're working to launch a
public UAP reporting mechanism, so we'll see if there's any difference.
The first historical report was a disaster. Now we have

(16:39):
a change of guard. Could we see a different historical report.
Could the era of denial officially be over? We'll see.
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