Scientists Reveal Hidden World Below the Pyramids - Independent Verification! - Lehto Files - Investigating UAPs

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So since March they've revealed an interconnected underground network extending
over a kilometer deep beneath all three pyramids and the Sphinx.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
So I basically knew that neither of the two teams
could possibly have seen the other image. And when I
put them together, this was very clearly the same exact
tunnel as far as I could tell.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
So this was reason to look closer.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
That's deeper than three Empire state buildings stacked.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Yes, yes, this is Cosmos timate and this is compenda
space to defer into something systems. Then you have the
same results.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
Look, wow, this is very important, this crucial business cruschis Lado.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Welcome to later files.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
What happens when a satellite physicist in Italy and a
field researcher in Egypt start finding the same underground features
without ever talking to each other. As a former F
sixteen pilot, I've used synthetic aperture radar to see through
clouds and darkness to paint targets from many miles away.
But what Felipo Biondi has done takes this military technology

(01:25):
to an entirely new level, using satellites to detect vibrational
signatures from structures over a kilometer beneath the Earth's surface.
This isn't classified tech, this isn't hidden. The data comes
from commercial satellites three different companies. The physics papers are published,
one's already published, and one is now in peer review.

(01:48):
So now, for the first time in history, the public
has access to potentially open source method for seeing what
lies beneath our most mysterious monuments. When Trevor Grassi's twenty
years of boots on the ground research started matching Felipo's
satellite findings, they realized they'd stumbled onto something extraordinary. Today

(02:11):
they're both here to explain exactly what they found, how
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(03:40):
around the world. Welcome to Lato Files. I'm Chris Lato,
and today we are continuing our coverage of the groundbreaking
Giza Pyramid discoveries with Felipo Beyondi and Trevor Garrassi. So

(04:01):
today we'll discuss their latest findings, how their different approaches
support each other, and what's next for exploring these discoveries.
Thank you so much to both of you for being here.
How are you doing?

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Thank you? Thank you very much for this embidish.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, thank you so much. We've we've tried a couple
of times before. You guys have been super busy. I
know you just got back from Cosmic Summit in the
US and I saw your presentation also in Malta, Filipo.
But you both, Felipo and Trevor, you've been working independently
for years using different technologies, so SAR from satellites versus

(04:40):
ground penetrating radar or on the ground boots on the ground,
if you will. For you, Trevor, can you describe the
moment when you realized your separate findings were confirming the
same underground structures.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, I could answer that one.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
It came for me from William Brown, who I've been
working with for a long time at Giza, several years
at least. We've both been looking into these questions for
a lot longer than when we met each other, maybe.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Around twenty or twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
But he had been working on this model of a
temple complex that he had been uncovering off to the
east of the plateau, and it had a tunnel that
was running straight towards the Great Pyramid, And so he
had given me a animation of this model of that
temple and its tunnel, and I'd been, you know, when

(05:38):
Filipo and Corado came out with their twenty twenty two
report on the Great Pyramid. I saw this report basically
the first day it was out, and I put these
two models together and saw that this one tunnel we
had coming into the Great Pyramid seemed to be the
exact same tunnel they showed connecting to the northern end

(05:59):
of the base of g One as the Great Pyramid,
as what we call it, seemed to be the exact
same tunnel. And to me this was irrefutable, you know,
ninety five at least percent sure that this was the
same exact tunnel, because I knew Felipo and Carorato couldn't
possibly have seen our model.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
We hadn't put it out yet.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
We released it later in a film that was the
third parts I made, called The Secret Underworld of Giza,
but that wasn't out yet, and so they couldn't have
seen Bill's model, and Bill couldn't have seen their model
because it was just put out in twenty twenty two,
so I had just kind of been seeing bills and

(06:43):
only a couple people on Earth. He had shown it too,
because you know, he was being very careful with it,
and so I basically knew that neither of the two
teams could possibly have seen the other image. And when
I put them together, this was very clearly the same
exact tunnel as far as I could tell. So this

(07:04):
was reason to look closer, and I ended up reaching
out to Filipo and Krorato. This was before Armando had joined,
and we finally got in touch, and then since last
year we've been talking a lot more and seeing many
more correlations. They're actually I think five or six different

(07:24):
potential entrances that Bill had detected with some of his
GPR skins on the plateau that we believe line up
to what the Coffer Project has now brought forward under
the Kaffer Pyramid and the Great Pyramid. So that's kind
of what got us started talking together. But now we've
talked a lot more. Finally got to meet in person

(07:46):
last weekend at the Cosmic Summit, and it was so
much fun. Filipo and Armando gave an amazing presentation filling
out the whole map of the other pyramids as well
as Cofra and uh this information.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
They shared some of that at the multi conference a week.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Before, but it took it to a whole new level
showing more of these structures, especially what's even under the
Sphinx and the long the Sphinx causeway.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
So now it's getting very exciting.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
And were you surprised, Philippo when Trevor contacted you and said,
you know, I have corroborating data. Did that just how much?
How did you feel about that hearing that news?

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yes, also very exciting because we were working independently, have
had our own results, and then we travel we shared
our results and we see that we found a high
correlation between our independent works. So it is very it

(08:49):
is very good. It is yes, our activity began now
I think I think we'll find you ago. I think
also six years ago when I started the studying the
villa its, because I never since that since then, I

(09:12):
have never studied studied the bindings. I used to confuse
also the cover rampiram It at the time. So if
it was like that, because I have never studied the
villains and I approached the Coma Malanga that he was

(09:33):
at that moment very deeply inside this this study that
he was doing, and I told him if it was
possible to colamb together because we could have a chance
to develop a metal in order to to see what

(09:55):
there was inside them at that in in the time
at the sum it was twenty nineteen and there was
at the time at the Scampyramid project that was a
unique project officially that was scanning it's like the buildings
using modes. In the time they announced the existence of

(10:21):
a big void located up the side the grangalley or
the and we wanted to see if our results was
matching with the one announced by the computer which one
year all joined us also run in May and we started,

(10:42):
according to the personal being on good results that we
had the sphere, we started also to scan on the
digital just to make a small cap of our technique.
We use synthetic of actually rediar data that apparently is

(11:04):
well done technique, but only to make suit based medics
based in the surface of them. In this context we
arrange a mental scam also below us in the day
support the vibrations communication channel that is at the inside

(11:31):
so it is important the inside the the Sarre images.
And now we are here talking about the matching of
our results with the one given by Trevor. But Trevor,
as you told that before, is twenty years that is

(11:53):
studying the edges a plato, and he goes also in
sead to make a practical edification of what we are doing.
I have to thank a tragorder because he let me
know the existence of the shafts that are relegated in
several points of scatteralent. And now we are giving a

(12:19):
particular attention on because those shafts that can be for
entering inside the day below underneath, which is a Plato
for X maybe explorer they announced it that is that
we're discovered underneath.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Thank you Filippo. And there's been a lot of skepticism.
I know I was blown away by your first initial
presentation and the way I I guess I look at
it is similar to laser vibrometry. Basically during the Cold War,
the reason we don't have windows on our are classified
rooms right in our skiffs is because you could actually

(13:04):
shine a laser onto a window and by shining the
laser it can pick up small phase shifts in the
window right will actually change change the frequency of the
light through small vibrations. And now you can actually hear
what's behind the window. So you're able to use using
optical So using a laser, you're able to to pick

(13:26):
up acoustical vibrations behind the surface of that window. Is
this a good analogy for what your what your technique does?

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Perfect It perfect fits the analogy because it perfectly fits
this analogy because it is true that in the environmental
let's say it is now open source, because it is
possible to do it. You can it is possible to

(14:00):
up tiny movements of the lasser. The frequency is the same.
You you don't have a change of frequency, but you
have you have a change into the you say, the
phase refraction refraction effort. So you have just a small
movement of the lasser because of the of the movement

(14:24):
of the of the glass face of the glass. So
in the receiver, in the receiver you have so order
displacement with respect with respect of the center displacement. According
to this, to this displacement, you can reconstruct the time

(14:44):
to mind wave of what there is inside in terms
of sticks. So if somebody is talking inside you can
reconstruct with a certain approximation the time to mind a
wave form of of who is talking inside the room. Okay,

(15:07):
just considering the displacement of the access of the lass
level that you are pounding, it is the same like
that we're doing this.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I was just going to ask, why do you think
there's so much skepticism? Then you know, to me it
seems possible with physics.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yes, because stellatural it is difficult. We in the world
that we have not so much. We are who knows
really how to treat the data, how to focus the data,
how to manage signal progressing of radar. We are so
much in Italy there is a very good schooler I

(15:55):
a very good school from University of Naples, polyteching with Milano,
the University of bardied something at Roma, let's say at Rama,
there is something also. But we are people sculptered, sculptored
in Italy, and we have some scientists in Germany, in

(16:17):
the United States. We are the community all the world
that there is, but we are not so much so
skepticism that that is because and this is is good
that in my personal obinion, is good. That can be skepticism.

(16:38):
But the physics that is under the My technique is
alreatten on my dad. So I am very I would say,
I am not worried about this. It's not a problem
for you.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, it seems there is a difference though, right, listening
to the sounds behind a single surface window does seem
quite different then being able to accurately map all these
deep structures down to you know, one point two kilometers.
How does how does sour technology give you that ability?

Speaker 4 (17:11):
You know?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
How does it make it so accurate that you can
actually determine that?

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yes, it is. It is very important to stress the
fact that we use met also based on fast fully
on fast fully dust, which is an approximation of discredefully relas.
We know that the fast full eras format is an
agorate that pick ups information entirely on our pletal information

(17:42):
is a global operation. That's not a local I tell you. Indeed,
the measurements are pick it up from space using electromagnetic flames,

(18:03):
using the radar and so on. Measurements are very very precise,
more preshized than laser laser that is pointed on the
wing really okay, freish eyes. And that because the orbit
of satellites are very precise. The electromagnetic electrognetic transmissions are

(18:29):
very you say, are very coar and so we know
everything about the history of signals that we are transmitted
and receiving, and so it is absolutely possible to to
emorate the last technique to the day. So we if

(18:52):
we can't see that the surface of their like the
glass of the window, the things they vibratestional, the vibrational
compound that is located that the need can be associated
to people that are speaking inside the room. So we

(19:13):
have we were able or to trive the aboustic the
abostic information trend the longer the orbital that's so once
we have the aboustic information and it is possible to Yeah, too,

(19:33):
it was possible to arrange an additional and additional recording,
you know, the too perform that's so called the tomographic inversion,
and so to evaluated things that are located underneath spots,

(19:55):
like the acoustic cosponts that are located.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I say some yeah, basically, so what I understand is
that it's the exact same as laser vibrometry, but you're
using it from space and the synthetic aperture.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah, it is more than the liser more because with
the lineser by parameter. Yes you can if you are
lucky understand some words that somebody is speech inside. But
you are not able to locate this space the direction

(20:32):
of arrival, so where the suits are located. But you
maybe you can do it also, but you need more
than one lasser. You have to create an antenna and
you need you need more than one measurements. If you
create an you can allocate in the space the so

(20:58):
called the hot to spoke.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
You can.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
In this case because we are using that they our bit.
We can also allocate to the acoustic as response beyond
and so measure precisely the deep excellent.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
So the orbit, the movement of the satellite is really
what gives you an advantage. I remember from from fighters
we because we used our technology in the F sixteen
UH and they use it even even more so now.
But you couldn't be pointed directly at the target. We
had to offset offset from the target, so that there
is a change in our radial angle to the to

(21:39):
the target that we're trying to image. If you went
straight at it, it wouldn't work. So there's there's an
advantage with the orbit. But also what I understand and
correct me if I'm wrong, is the synthetic aperture part
of it. Because the satellite is so far away and
it's moving so fast. Now what you have is a
very very large antenna. Essentially, you're increasing the aperture of

(22:03):
your antenna from just a few meters to I don't know,
hundreds of meters or maybe even a.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Kilometer, several tens of kilometers, okay, seven.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
So it's basically like having a let's say approximate seventy
meter WHI satellite dish out there. That's that that also
is moving seventy kilometers. Okay, wow, okay, wow, that's amazing. Yeah,
I didn't realize it was that large.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yes, because you have a pletor of parameters that are
not against against you, against me, but they they allow
to do this what we are doing. Because you have
really wide let's say on seventy to one. Then you

(23:05):
have also the very high velocity of the of the
satellite let's say seven approximately seven kilometers SCons of and
then with this you can build up your metal. That's
all go to rebuild a space version of the laser

(23:25):
that is coming to the surface of the but it
is more than that, because with one laser you are
ambiguous in approximate the direction of the arrival or the
source of the vibrations. If you build up and then

(23:46):
so you if you do several several several measurements displaced
by an a virtue you can reconstruct. Also this will
serve the page. And it's so.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
And from what I basically understood is that's because of
the phase, right, isn't it because you're if you're if
your antenna receives the signal over here, it will be
able to tell a different signal here, right, based on
the phase of the way. Is that approximate?

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yes, the signal purchasing that is inside the environmental is
is a process that everything here. It means that each
number that goes inside that they are going is constituted
the buy a real part and a real part and

(24:42):
then imagine any part. So you are treating complex numbers.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yes, okay, that's amazing, And so I think maybe that's
why there's a lot of disbelief, I guess in the
in the civilian community, because if you think an F
sixteen we're going maybe maybe you know, five hundred, probably
four hundred miles an hour, maybe five hundred miles an hour,

(25:08):
but the satellite's going seventeen thousand miles per hour, you know,
and we're able to scan down using this technology, SAR technology,
we're able to scan you know, it's classified, but further
than a targeting pod, you know, fifteen twenty miles, you know,
out to a very long distance down to you know,
small sub submeter type ranges. And that's with a you know,

(25:32):
a thirty year old radar and it's a very tiny radar.
So I think that maybe one of the reasons they
can't believe it is just you know that this tech
is possible. Do you agree or Okay?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, Philippa, I think that also the.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Size of the synthetic aperture, which you're saying is created
by the movement up to seventy to one hundred clometers,
that has to do with the resolution you can detect,
is that correct? Like the bigger the aperture, you're basically
creating a satellite dish one hundred kilometers wide that can
get much higher risk Absoluia.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
There's podgets on ging people to the Daily Forum's absolutely.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I agree, absolutely, okay, and Trevor, you've been exploring these
areas you know physically for decades, I've had you on
the show. If anyone wants to see our previous discussion,
you know, how does it feel to see Filipo's technology
confirming these locations you've been investigating. Can you share any
like specific examples. You've already shared one, but any others

(26:47):
that you see.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, there's there's tons of confirmations.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
We can talk about specific ones, and I'm hoping to
go into more detail about this with William soon and
our friend Rich Gabriel what we're going to do in
episode specifically covering all these different potential lineups between the
two different scan projects. We have one GPR scan, for instance,

(27:13):
on the southwest corner of the Great Pyramid that we
think might connect into one of the ramps inside the
Great Pyramid. We have a GPR scan all along the
eastern base edge of the G two Kopfer Pyramid, the
middle one, which we believe is showing two of these

(27:34):
tunnels that the Kofer project revealed inside the Kpfer Pyramid
coming out the eastern edge of it into the Sphinx Causeway,
which is a causeway going straight down to the Sphinx
from there, and so we think there's a tunnel coming
in from the east on that side. We've also confirmed
that there are continuing tunnels coming from the NC two complex,

(27:59):
which is up in the north west corner the plateau,
coming down into the west end of the Coffer Pyramid
as well.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
So there are a bunch of them like this.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
That seemed to be showing us, you know, very likely
at least the entrances into those spaces that we're seeing.
But I have for a long time said that I
believe there are such huge, massive spaces under the plateau
that I don't even call it a chamber or a
system or a secret city even I call.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
It the underworld, an entire world down there. So I
was not surprised.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I mean I was to some degree, but I wasn't
as surprised as the public when we saw these megastructures
as we're calling them. And I think speaking to what
you had asked initially about the skepticism, there's a lot
to say that that's going to dissipate very quickly this year,
because not only are we now seeing more and more

(28:57):
of the skins from the Coffer project, but we're starting
to work on getting second opinions or even third or
fourth opinions and other teams to potentially scan the whole
plateau and get a whole second set of data from
these different teams.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
But you know, I actually saw some of these.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
You know, skepticism is healthy, but absolutely just denying it
or hating on the project for no good reason. That's
also been something we've been seeing, and some of these
people doing that are actually saying that, you know, oh,
if they had just found a few chambers that were
more reasonably sized and you know, something we could imagine

(29:37):
these people building, I would have been you know, I
would have been more open to it. And I'm like,
you expected them to find something out. You know, they
found what was under there. We're getting at least a
decent idea of what it is. We don't have it
perfectly mapped out yet, But what you want them to
find something else that's not there? That would have been

(30:00):
more believable to you. This is such an absurd reason
to be in denial. But the size of the structures,
the scale of construction of what we're seeing is so
mind blowing to people that it's so far from the
narrative of the Egyptian history we know, so especially these
people who are still thinking these pyramids are tombs are

(30:23):
they're out of the you know that they're nowhere close
to this understanding that there could be something this much
bigger and significant to rewriting the entire history of Egypt.
They're in denial simply based on the scale of what
we're seeing is too unbelievable for them, and that's not
a good reason to dismiss evidence that we're seeing, especially

(30:46):
if we're going to have other teams start confirming it
as well. Just something a lot of people are asking for,
So yeah, I think it's it's pretty interesting that Philippo
had mentioned a potential partnership. Are working together with Howard
zemker Soon, who I know is a an SAAR specialist

(31:08):
who's very respected at Stanford, someone who could really have
some good input on this and can bring some validation.
But I'm also talking to a couple other teams that
do deep geo scans that might be able to also
look at the plateau, as long as the ministry allows
that to happen. But this is part of what's going

(31:28):
to probably be validating a lot more of it as
the year moves on and more of the scans come out.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
And Felipa, what do you think is your most compelling evidence?
Have you come up with any new evidence that you say, okay,
this is just completely irrefutable. You know, it seems like
you have a lot already. You know, you had the
Bosal damn, you had the Grand Sasu Physics Laboratory, you
had the tunnel at least one tunnel in Italy and

(32:00):
no Cyra shaft. Is there any any new ones that
you can mention or what do you think is the
most irrefutable.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
We can uh, we can share, maybe you schedule something
that'd be amazing. If the last presentation we had was
in Florence where we made a nice conference in the
memorial of Mario Pinkerly. I don't know travel If you

(32:31):
know Mario Pinkerly, he discovered the desert that was that
is located inside the chaos and his his brother Leo
Pinkerly was high level physicists that worked together with Enrico

(32:59):
fair Meat and Honor.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
So the.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
This is the presentation of the space as on. But
we don't do it all just to show you some
something about the the data that we use. We to
use it. This is a synthetic apperture radar data and
then you see it colorate because we use it three
different Doddler Dodler bandwidths and these are the pyramids and

(33:32):
it was giving us by Capello Space. And then yes,
of course we can use radiar synthetic vectu radar for
considering also infrastructure middling of launch infrastructions using INTERFEROMEEDA deferometry

(33:59):
is is a well done technique. It's not. My technique
is something different that is embedded strongly inside the state
of the art of the synthetical lectural radia. And with
this technique we can estimate the Bali metric displacement back

(34:19):
of the surface of Dearth, so we can do infrastructural needling.
Is technique. But also we can consider also synthetical actual
RADA for performing in the oil gas extraction, because yeah,

(34:40):
while you extract the oiler, you have displacement, and you
detect the displacement from the surface of the Earth.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
And this is why I think if this technology which
I think is is real, I think it will be unstoppable. Right,
it just is too offitable for humanity and for just
as just one example.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, I think there would be. It
is very important. That is yes, I agree with you,
and I I show you some weathervolve is technique because
we made experiments in Laborandi in order to retrive the

(35:24):
vibrational s the water here.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, can you expand that? Can you expand the screen? Philipo? Yeah,
I wanted to ask. I saw your your presentation in
Malta where you where you explained this. So did you
you expected this technology to work when you built this experiment,
you know, was it you?

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Okay, so you had the theory already and then you
built this experiment to just prove the technology and to
I'm guessing to create the software. Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Yes? Yes, this is some related also to the laser
and the glass because of value. We have a source
of vibration on vibration, which is this this stick six
number six that rotates. When it rotates, it transmits vibration
to all the structure which is the table and also

(36:21):
the surface of the water that is contained.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
It is.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Container number three. Here we have a webcam and them builder.
It is very sick for so you have a vibration,
vibration suits, water, webcam and the compuilder to store to
store data while the vibrations are acting on the table. Yes,

(36:57):
you can watch these vibrations on the surface of the water.
So you have the waves the tire picked up by
the tar. Yes, that are measured by the web. So

(37:19):
you you are you are seeing nothing of what is
underneath the water.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
M hmm.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
So underneath the water you have these structures. Yeah, you
have the table. Now you have things that are are
located below the water, the water surface. Okay, so what
we're seeing, what we are watching is this. Look, you
have the structure of the table. This mhm, the structure

(37:52):
of the day.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Okay. Cool.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
So just considering the information in code inside the wave,
the superficial waves of the water, it is possible to
retrive physically the image of the section of the table
that is of the beat. Okay, I don't explained it.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Well, no, you explained it perfectly. Yeah, that's great, amazing.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
We started from this because you know, you have to
say the things how are how are they exactly? Okay?
We started from yeah, from this is my garage, nothing special,
is my garage my garage. Then we moved from a

(38:43):
my garage into the space and this we have performed
the same thing because the weapcome is there are the Okay,
the surface of the water is the surface of the earth,
and the able is what there is under the So

(39:04):
this is the garbl in the tunnel. It is in Nevada,
the United States. We choose that the garden town because
on the other hand, I am also studying to feed
my technique for mining purpose. No, maybe it can be
used for mining, and so that there is very important

(39:30):
good open pit mine. And so I am also testing
the technique for mining pur But here there is a
tunnel with arnel and we have a picture the under look.
This is the salve image that you know very well

(39:52):
later and let's see if it is possible make it so, yes, well,
I try a different orientation. Yet it is a very noisy.
Look the tunnel is noisy. Yeah, but you can you can.
You can also reprive something. But it's noisy because it

(40:16):
is not a favor a well done incidence angle. You
don't have an incidence angle that you are not serving well.
But change the incidence and then look, you can focus
on the time it's passing inside and not inside the

(40:39):
the the mountain. Okay, this is the vertical curtain that
we have that we have estimated the sol is like
a piece of paper that goes were tent inside of the.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Okay, and then the benefit of that is it's moving,
right because the webcam that was looking at the table
in the water was just a stationary sensor. And now
this is moving.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Yes, this is moving. But but why it is moving
we have because this is stationary because it is not
just a screenshot, it is a video. Okay, but this
it is it is something related to the algorithm because

(41:35):
satellite that you can you can we'll see that the
satellite image just as any major with the maximum resolution
as a travel explains before, So using all the aperture
all they they are bita so let's say fifteen seconds

(42:00):
of integration, or you can use not fifteen seconds of integnation, man,
but maybe only five seconds, so a renowncing on some
resolution in aim. But then you can you are able
to transform a static image into a small video and

(42:23):
so you recast in the same condition of the load.
This is very important and thank you for giving me
this question. So small video here in the same image.
You can also try a small video because you don't

(42:43):
use all the other bits, but you use a portion
of deportit and you can shift in time inside there
with in order to transform a static image into a
small vie on everything reading into my paper if if
people gets time to read it deeply. It is a

(43:07):
reading every day, okay, but you have to spend time
to read it, not just say that it is not scientific.
It has to read. You have to starty.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
And Philippa, you said your news papers is very close
to being submitted.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
For peer review right now, right, it's finished. My paper
is finished.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
I'm waiting the korrad that that that that gives me,
give me the order submit. That's submit. It is finished.
It's finished, you know, as Joe Joe Caparta, we are
reading it, reading it and reading it again, take it,

(43:52):
taking perfect, so to submit it. It's finished.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
My paper is finished, okay, perfect, So we can expect
that relatively soon then hopefully yes, that amazing.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Okay, let's tell this the peer review process which is
unknown amount of time, but it's ready to start that
at least.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
It depends on the on the on the reviewers. I
don't know, or it depends maybe they rejected and I
don't know. We don't know, because it is peer review.
I don't know. We submitted and let's see what it is.
I don't know. I show you this, sir. Okay, they

(44:36):
they they told us. They all world laugh about this,
the spill their space and all that we announced and
to do into the the press release. Look, here you
have a spiral measure of this is the CAF repeal.

(44:57):
And here you are watching that is underneath and here
you are. They are clearly visible the shots. Yeah and yeah,
clearly busy visible. And here you have a speedal case
and nature of the targets. Yeah. Yeah, this is Cosmos

(45:22):
climate and this is Capella Space. Two different satellite systems.
Then you have the same results. Look, wow, this is
very important, this crucial business.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
CRUSI okay, So from two different sets of data, you're
you're seeing the exact same corroborating structures.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Different electronics, different orbits, different sidelights. You see what you're
watching the results? Wow, so it's very important.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yeah, you said, actually three satellite companies. Now is that right?
It was Copela and Umbre.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Yes, yes, yes, Umbra it is. We We are not
proposing because Umbra it's cool, but we notice that that
the power is a bit a bit sufficient, so we
we just have it for confidemag and enough we are
we are not we are proposing nothing about the number

(46:24):
in the paper. I think we have only waters off
because they are small subnites and the power is it
is a big role.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
But yeah, and the depths are just staggering, right, We're
talking twelve hundred meters and to put that in perspective
for the viewers, that's that's deeper than that's deeper than
three empire state buildings stacked.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yes, so you guys have had You've had more time
than anyone else really to consider this. You know, have
you come up with any speculative ideas on why would
ancient builders go so deep? And how could they even
build structures like this?

Speaker 4 (47:10):
I suggest people do. We made an interview, a personal opinion,
very interesting with Christopher danno che expedition, and it is
possible to watch it, and there we made some some
hypothesis in order to consider the purpose of these structures.

(47:34):
Christopher Dunn is well known that he is convinced that
the Plateau was an entire power playing building. In such sense,
I agree with him because I am not so expected
with respect to him. He told us that, and I

(47:56):
agree with him. He's very kind the wrist of he's
more than more than years of his life in considered
in these theses femals fairly well. The eat the sense

(48:18):
of the hypercases to be a power.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Plan, well, I would add on to that as well.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I think Chris Dunne is really is onto, you know,
as far as many people have had these ideas that
the pyramids are power plants in some function in some way,
but he has been not only one of the best
most thorough researchers, you know, dressing that potential, but has
also been very encouraging and helpful and open to others

(48:47):
that have similar ideas. And I think that between either
it being some sort of components within the machinery or
the function of the pyramid itself both Flipo and Armando
Crado have also been bringing forward, is the potential that
it is some kind of infrastructure like pylons to support
part of the weight, and the infrastructure possibly tying down

(49:12):
to a more solid layer of bedrock deep below.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
It could be both.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
As far as I'm concerned, I think Chris Donne is
definitely right about that function, but there might be other
functions on top of that as well. I've been talking
to Chris a lot about this, and we're actually all
going to be meeting up with Chris in September.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
We're doing the Pyramids Conference.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
That's the Global Pyramid Conference outside Chicago in September.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
That's the twenty six through thirtieth at Filipo.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Armando and myself are all going to be speaking as
well as Chris done. So if anyone wants to meet
all four of us, that would be a good chance.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
If I can, if you want that st.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Excellent, Okay, it is.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Very interesting here. I want to show you the shifts
and so here this very right hot spot. This is
all the cover pyramid here, but we announced the the
contrast in order to make rise the shafts look. Yeah, presented.

(50:29):
These are these are existing one hundred percent. These are
the shofts are very deep, but very deep below.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Is that because it's actually intersecting those two and specific
that they're showing up so well against the others.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Yes, Yes, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
And what does that have to do with the incidents
of the satellite that you get a certain perspective of
or is that because those are larger?

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Yes, we are studying also the qodity of the tomographic
This is with respectful day incidents. Yes, I am studying, so.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
You must have better quality from a different angle.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yes, yes, over on the right before you switch that one. Actually,
that on the right, that's one of the clearest images
I've seen of these spirals.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
You can really Yeah, fine.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Amazing, Fine, it's amazing. This is amazing.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
This is this is.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Are they all the same? Are the the spirals match
like a screw? Are they the you know, mechanically the same?

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Yes, yes, but the shofts such height depressions underneath they
are also connected the one to each other. So you
have also some connection that connects them one to each other.
I show you also other another representation, which is this

(52:18):
I think is very we are this is the cover period. Yeah,
we are considering the tomography of a longer this photographic line. Yeah.
The resulted the two things are this. Look look this,
look this piece of shaft that is coming down. They

(52:41):
are spirally spirally like spirits. And then look here here
you have also something like versal opinion also very nice,
which is here you are you have an approved variation
of the the energy there's concentage. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we

(53:04):
are considered in this because yeah, you have look this,
there is water inside here. The water begins from there
and goes below. There is you have the water here
In my personal being, of these are located inside. The

(53:26):
water goes down.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
It's at that point where it shifts that might be
the main water level table.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Yes, look look then look here you have a something
that you have a core. This is one shaft let's
call it spiral shoft. You have a core decent and
you have something like I don't know there is there
are style stairs that are spirally going down. Look that

(54:00):
something in that today and you have cold the center
and here we have a representation.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Wow, m and where can you where is the water?
Can you what I thought was the water table was down?

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Yes, the water in my personal opinion, don't have the
pencil here we can do you do you? You are
watching the the full sort of the answer, yes, okay
in my personal opinion, the water begins from here here
and here okay, and the goals then goes below and

(54:45):
that goes down. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
So are those chefts then do they have no water
in them? Can you tell if there's water inside the shafts.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
Or we are we have to study we have to
study this at the moment. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Well that's a big argument people bring is that you know,
none of this stuff could exist because all of it
would have to be under the water table. And most
of them are saying this basically just based on we
know the water table, and the Osiris shaft is about
at that third level, maybe one hundred feet one hundred
and twenty feet. But that's just one location where we

(55:25):
know the water level. And I keep trying to tell
people it can wake upwards in cases, and it can
also get drained very easily, especially if we have structures
over a kilometer deep that could drain a lot of
water at once as well. So we don't really know
if the water is consistent across the whole plateau.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
So disease. They didn't very very huge infrastructure. It is
not to be see like separately, things like the pyramid,
the sphings, those are only caps and heads that are

(56:11):
covering something that is deep, deeply made structure underneath. Look
this I show you measure in this gemographic line. Look,
and we are watching the structures that are going down
beyond and here look this thing. Yeah, this is a

(56:32):
huge room yeah, it's that is located underneath.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
We have.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Given all the representation on the on the treaty model
that we show the mortalis, but we are explaining it
very well intention differently. So and this is the sphinx.
The sphinx is something different? Is this sphinx? Here we

(57:02):
have also the polary mederc representation not just energy but
colored image. And here and here we have something below
but something at the intermediate distance with respect to the surface.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Yeah and here yeah, yeah, do you know exactly what
depth that's at that anomaly be roughly.

Speaker 4 (57:36):
I don't remember. Roughly one kill me this wow? Wow
roughly and here five hundred meetings below. I want to
move to join the travel grassy work that he gave me.
This it's very nice, it was very useful of this.

(58:00):
So because we have given the three main areas A one,
A two, and A three, where there are huge amounts
of shafts scattered on the surface from the surface. Some
shofts of these are visible from the surface about they

(58:21):
are well known. I'm not expecting this because I've never
been in This is very really nice because I have
never went to I am studying in Indep but I've
never been there. I have to go. Yes, I have
to go. We try where I go together with.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Okay, okay, we're working this as a shot me we
go after the conference in Dubai and in November, I
might be going back. We should we should talk about it. Yes,
maybe go through Satyll Yes.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Yes, right, well have to go. We have to go.
This is a shaft that is one of There are
a lot of shafts. So I have picked up one
shaft and I need the svet this shraft and look
we we are observing the shaft going below and in

(59:23):
the at the end of this of this phoography. Yeah,
we are watching that. There is the section of a room. Look,
and inside of the room there are things. Look here,
it's not empty the room, it's not empty.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
Look.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
So you have from the surface the shaft that goes
down here you have connections rizontal connections. But the shafts
continuous going down to the top and there.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Are Yeah, so that's twelve hundred meters down and.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Saying it's very deep deep, that's very deep.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
That's meters though not feet, twelve hundred Wow, that is amazing, yes,
because yeah, that one was that's the one called Campbell's tomb,
which was explored a bit. Colonel Howard Wes did look
it to that one, I know, and I think there's
a couple other excavations, but they only went down to

(01:00:31):
again about one hundred feet or so, and that's where
those tunnels we've discussed Hakimawiya and used to play in
as a child. But you're showing it go down so
much further than that, which means what they found must
have been a false floor and it continues below that
that floor. Yes, just so amazing. Yeah, it looks like
a main entrance into the much deeper stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
To me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
When I look at the scans, when you show the
images of the scans Filipo, it's interesting that you can
see the around the pyramid. It's it's kind of clean,
there's no noise, and then you see the city of
Cairo and there's just a bunch of noise, garbled information
if you will. And I know that you've also briefed

(01:01:17):
that electromagnetic line, so electric power lines you're able to
pick up is the techniques is it picking up the
electricity in the lines or is it the the actual
lines The lines are vibrating because the electricity or the
wind even no, not, I.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Tell you when I see if there's lied electrical I
think it is. Okay, okay, yes, these are the electric lines.
Electric lines when a when not when excited by high voltage,

(01:02:03):
electricity de vibrates, physically vibrates because they are they are
de vibrates because of physical phenomena concerning to high voltage.
In fact, I don't know if you never went under
high voltauch below you can hear the ripplele no something

(01:02:26):
like that. Yes, if you hear the ripple by your ears,
it means that the cables physically vibrates. What we did
this experiment. This is a salt image. The image you
can watch also the electrical the electrical cables. Yeah, which

(01:02:50):
is the electromagnetic representation of the cables. Here and here
we have estimated the rip or they will all given
the physical or the physical people right, given by the
vibration you you buy the Albold touch energy passing through

(01:03:15):
the gables. Okay, it is. This is very simple and
we did it I think a couple of years ago.
This only to watch the vibrations. It is very simple
because they vibrates very lot, not vibrates with the amplitude

(01:03:36):
the teasing, they will limited escale in the limit. It's
very simple.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
So in this case, does that mean that if you
will only be able to use this technique under areas
like Giza or deserts where there's not a lot of
houses or buildings or people.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
Yes, there is, Yes, there are some cases. It might
that's annointing that the technique doesn't work. I don't know.
Maybe we can have some trouble. So maybe because I
never tested the technique, So the technique under a high

(01:04:27):
density over vegetationial environment, maybe there can failure, but it
is it is not at nent having some limited.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Have you have you considered using this technique on any
other historical sites like go Beckley Tepe I was interested
in that or other areas.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
We will move in the considering other works. We slowly.
We are now we want to finish CHITSA. We want
to try and publish the scientific article because I remember
it is peer review, so we will have a very

(01:05:15):
precise peer review process. So we have to be very
careful and then we will to to maybe to examine
our other sites. In the meantime, we will establish a
foundation so we will be able if possible if people

(01:05:38):
will allow will will allow us some donations, we can
help us to buy other computers to be a bit
more structured and so to give everyone all the responses
considering the other our chological sites in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
On doll excited.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Yeah, we've been talking about a couple of sites.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
I know I have a list of over a hundred
just on the top of my head, but I'm not
giving you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
It is also yet it is they.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
Come.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
I think that there are fifty years of activities. Fifty years.
I don't know, Well, that just depends.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
If we can get you more processing power, then it
would maybe be a couple of years we could get
to a lot more. So I know my friend Frank
had sent some recommendations to look into some of these,
you know, crowdsourced computing power where we could securely get
your software up to where everyone we could all be

(01:06:54):
helping to process the images with your software remaining secure
on your end. And some of our friends who who
are willing to fund this as well, are they're willing
to buy you more computers to just but sooner or later,
you're gonna your bedroom, You're gonna be inside of a computer,
your whole house and it'll just be a lot, you know,

(01:07:17):
probably be noisy. If we can get all the processors
on the you know, entire net, you know, all different
individuals actually helping to do it, then we might be
able to cruise through many different sites. And I know
one of the first ones I keep asking is Howara.
It's one of the most important sites in Egypt. I mean,

(01:07:37):
besides Giza. It's It's definitely my number one suggestion because
we're seeing a new scan from Merlin Burrows just came
out from there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
We have a geoscan.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
And two other ground penetrating radar teams from earlier on
William Brown and Lewis de Cordier who I'm working closely
with both of them to bring moreormation about that. So
we do want to see if the Coffer project can
also scan Uara as soon as possible as one of
the next highest priorities. But I know we're all we're

(01:08:10):
all looking a lot and also the.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
Speed of it. We have other things we will do it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
And p Peru.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
That's a very important one because they're working on it
right now. They just did resistivity tests and GPR just
since last year.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
And I think we will move to Peru.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Also we have to do a Yes, they're they're trying
to do the expiations there now, so it would be
very helpful.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Arranging efficiently the computational efforts so we can do also
to Triport project in contemporary so may other things.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
And I saw recently correct me if I'm wrong. I
believe it was an Italian. But is it true that
Zahi Hawas he pulled out of the Dubai conference. Is
that true? Okay, it's true.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
We unfortunately yeah, yeah, this conference, Yeah, the Galactic Discoveries Exchange.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
It was very exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
He had signed up for it before they invited us, Uh, myself,
Felipo and Armando and we will all be going with
some other friends as well.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
But you know, yeah, he did come out on Joe
Rogan and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Say straight up yes, okay, I would of course be
willing to speak with the Copper Project. And funny enough
that came out the exact same day as we released
the posters saying We're all going to be at this
conference in Dubai, which will be a revolutionary you know,
never before. It's one of the first disclosure conferences in

(01:10:04):
Dubai in the heart of the Middle East, which is
you know, it's the galactic Discoveries exchange, it's it's all
of us are kind of at least open to considering
these cosmic.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Elements of the story, let's just say.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
But that's why I was surprised in the first place
to see that Hawas signed up for that, and it
seemed like a positive kind of step he was taking.
But we were at the Cosmic Summit where we got
the news that you know, they offered basically, you know,
as I had suggested.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
We had all kind of suggested or been.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Hoping for a round table with Hawaas, myself, Felipo and
Armando and probably our friend Elena Denon, who has worked
with Hawas for many years with the French National Academy
of Science, which she was working in Egypt, and so
you know, they had good, good relations, they were on

(01:11:00):
good terms with and we were hoping to get a
nice civil, you know, respectful dialogue with him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
And yeah, that that really it wasn't surprising that he
ended up not.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Wanting to do it, but uh, I don't know, I
figured he might be pressured into continuing to do it
even if he didn't want to, because it's a very
bad look for him to say yes, I'm absolutely willing
to speak with them and then actually changing his plans
and uh, you know, leaving this conference specifically because he

(01:11:37):
didn't want to give any credit to the team, which
is you know, the exact opposite of what he just said.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
You know, he would be willing and open, so he.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Actually, yeah, we uh, we had invited him to potentially
have a dinner conversation as well, separate from all of this, uh,
with with Bill Brown, to try and discuss some of
the project that we're talking about for an excavation there,
which would be tied in with the you know, the
Coffer project as well, because like I say, these tunnels

(01:12:10):
were looking at excavating. We do think they connect right
into the instructures. So yeah, that we hadn't even mentioned.
But he wasn't interested in that either. So it's a
bad look for the ministry when you know, they're they're
putting forward this image like they are open and willing

(01:12:30):
to considering any technology or new studies. But Filippo and
Armando Carrada, they all invited you know, the current Minister
of Antiquities to be present or involved in their original
press conference. They didn't notify the ministry, they invited any
any level of participation from the ministry or anyone in it.

(01:12:54):
They've all been very respectful to Hawas, to the ministry,
and yet you know he has been openly calling it
fake news, calling them amateurs. You know, after Philippa's thirty
years and ninety scientific papers, so absurd to detract from

(01:13:15):
from this team in any way. But to say yes,
I'm willing to meet with them and be totally reasonable
and then back out of a conference, change your plans
just to avoid it, it's a bad luck. So you know,
we we still want to be open to Hawas. We
want to leave this invitation open to him to work
with us. If it's very upsetting that it did fall through.

(01:13:39):
You know, we were just.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
Just to complete we opinion, I theme the walker and
the carrier skills. We be on the project as nothing
against him. We appreciate all everything about him, his career,

(01:14:06):
excellent career that he has with the Egyptian government, with
all the Egyptologists and all the academic activities that has
been done since now. So we are respectful. In my

(01:14:26):
personal opinion, it is in the j was a perfect
the perfect condition to have around the world with him
and with his research. So if it is possible, I

(01:14:47):
don't know, if it is possible, can he change his
mind and so go attend the conference? This is the
version He is an all but request that we can
look to him. If it is possible, please talks like

(01:15:09):
you know what's maybe we can meet them. Also said
that you are not potentdic anymore, but you can also
change your mind, but not change you over town your.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Yeah, well, I think it's very unlikely he would end
up being reinvited or change his mind about this specific one.
But I think he's he's welcome to any time if
he wants to reach out and actually talk with us.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
And like you, I have a lot of respect for
zaut here as well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
There are a lot of things that I don't agree with,
and a lot of things that you know, we have
different opinions on, but for the most part, no one
you know, I have an appreciation for the fact that
he has been there on the ground for fifty years
doing this, and even people who have access of above

(01:16:00):
him aren't on the ground like he is every day
working in the field and actually going behind all these gates.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
For instance, that Giza that are that are sealed and locked.
He is the guy with the key. There's no denying
that he's the key master and gatekeeper.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Those are perfect terms for you know, whether or not
he's the one who's always making the decisions of whether
or not people should get access. He does have a
vast understanding of what's underneath Giza, probably more so than
anyone alive, and for that reason alone, I've got a
lot of respect for the knowledge he has on this,

(01:16:39):
and I really would love to get a chance eventually
to have a respectful conversation with him, or at least
see Felippo and Armando get that chance. So we would
like to keep it out there that we're still open
to it. If he is interested and wants to open
up to it, maybe we can do especially Reis and

(01:17:00):
we are to a meeting with him when he wants,
well he wants, and we can speak of what he
wants better than well we have all been to have
anything with him any Yeah, I would also mention that

(01:17:22):
I am very excited the sixteenth of this month, I'm
planning to do an interview with Matt Bell then, who's
been He's just interviewed Hawas. He's part of this Scan
Pyramids team. He's working with them and helping fund there
now supposedly getting permission to actually drill in the Great

(01:17:45):
Pyramid and try and access this large void above the
Grand Gallery and the Great Pyramid, which is huge, huge
news if we can actually get in there with a
robot and see it. And so he is actually working
directly with the Scam Pyramids team, and maybe we can
at least, you know, get some conversation set up between

(01:18:06):
other members of the Scam Pyramids team, if not Halas
himself and the Coffer Project. I would like to see
if we can try and arrange something like that if
anyone on the Scam Pyramids team is interested in speaking
with the Cover Project, and this could all. I'm also
you know, hoping to discuss with Matt the potential of

(01:18:27):
looking into our projects. With that tunnel that I said
earlier is coming in. This could lead to the chance
to actually get into that large void above the Grand
Gallery without having to drill at all within the pyramid,
which I think would be ideal because drilling is very
risky and it's it's better not to if we don't

(01:18:47):
have to, So it's it's certainly at least worth investigating
if this tunnel does connect into the ramps as we
believe it does, so hopefully that goes well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
You've mentioned on other podcasts that there are other countries
actually now competing for these excavation permits. You know what's
at stake here. Why is it important that independent researchers
like you and Felipo et cetera get access first.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
That's a really good question.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Honestly, we've been pushing for an excavation at two locations,
in particular, right off the east end of the outside
the wall of the plateau and the village. And you
know these are far from the Sphinx and the Pyramid.
There's no risk of damage to any of the monuments
by digging there. But this is where we think we
can access those tunnels coming straight in right under the

(01:19:44):
Sphinx and right under the Great Pyramid. So we revealed
the location of this subterranean temple right under the Great
Pyramid causeway that comes out to the east and that's
the one that has the tunnel connecting in. We revealed
it because we know there are already teams, you know,
tomb robbers and raiders and people trying to get in

(01:20:07):
there and actually rob it all for the black market.
We're losing artifacts, you know, I'm seeing people try to
offer me artifacts even I'm like, no, this should go
in a museum. Straight Indiana Jones style is my philosophy.
It should be in a museum. It shouldn't be lost.
But we're seeing artifacts getting pulled out and disappearing forever.

(01:20:29):
And we disclose the location of that entire temple complex
because we knew that these other people trying to rate
it already knew about it, and so it didn't seem
like a risk. We wanted to show the world that
there is something down there right now that is being rated.
And because we did that, there are now three other

(01:20:52):
teams we've been told trying to get the permit for
that location, which we've been trying to get for several years,
but we were last told that we had about a
seventy percent chance of getting it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
But there's a team from Spain, France and America that are.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Also shooting for that same spot, and whoever gets it
basically is going to have it for years to come.
And so if we get it, it would be amazing
and we could show everything, you know, live filming it
before anybody can get in there and take anything. We
don't know who these other teams are, but we have
to assume they might want to keep these artifacts for

(01:21:30):
themselves or you know, make money off of them. Might
not tell us anything, and if it's strictly a ministry
sanctioned project, the whole report will be heavily censored, and
you know it would be we have potentially everything to
lose or to gain from this. So you know, whoever

(01:21:52):
gets this location may just get down in there and
immediately be able to walk right into all of these
unseen chambers within the Great Pyramid, which is you know,
the greatest treasures we could imagine could be in these chambers,
especially that one above the Grand Gallery, so you know,

(01:22:14):
the collective heritage of all of humanity is at stake.
You know, we can't even imagine the type of things
that could be in there could be at risk. So
to me, it has been just we need to push
for this excavation as much as we can until we
get it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
But now that there's competition for that permit, it's even
more to.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
An apocalyptic level of you know, we need to do
anything we possibly can to make sure that we at
least get a chance to be part of the team
to document it all before, you know, someone else is
just in there for years doing work that we're not sure.
You know, we have to wait for a report, like
Hawas has been talking about, you know, since they found

(01:23:00):
the north Face corridor coming in from the chevrons. He
said within months he expected to get passed there and
get into more of these chambers. But we've been sitting
here with no report since then, just wondering, well, how
far have they gotten already? Are they already into these
further chambers. It sucks to just be stuck here waiting.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Not knowing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
And I really want to try and push for transparency
of whoever gets that project. You know, we want to
be able to film it as it's happening and really
make sure it's done in the right way and protected.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
It seems the connection between all the pyramids and the
Sphinx through these underground networks, which is totally revolutionize our
understanding of that whole complex, right, I mean, that seems
just a huge change.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Yeah, yes, yeah, well, we do think there's connections to
the Sphinx from one of the locations. We want to
Digg and from the Sphinx eight along this thinks caused
way to the Contra Pyramid. So that's one of the
main connections that leads us to believe if we could
do this dig, we could find the chambers that Felippo
and Armando Crado all found under and within the Great Pyramid,

(01:24:16):
as well as the Contra Pyramid and those tunnels that
probably connect to men Coors Pyramid as well, I believe
most likely.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Okay, well, yeah, I just want to say thank you
so much both of you for for all your efforts.
I think this really could be one of the biggest
finds in human history. Like you mentioned, and from what
I've seen is you've been extremely respectful the whole time.
You know from all the you know the names you've

(01:24:46):
been called, or you know they've called your work not legitimate,
you know that you your amateur, et cetera. I think
you of Felipa have been very respectful and I think
that will in the end, that will come out to
be the best method, I think. So you're going at
this the right way. But so finally, what is your

(01:25:08):
guys next step? So you mentioned the peer review paper
and then the conference in Dubai. Is there anything else
you want to share?

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
Yes, yes, thank you for this opportunity. Before the conference
in Dubai, we have the Global Pyramid, I don't remember
the name, the Confidence.

Speaker 6 (01:25:32):
Global Conference, yes, in its section, Yes, in Chicago. But
before this, on the twenty seven of July, we have
a CONFIDENCE in Spoleto, Italy. In this conference, it is

(01:25:56):
sold out now because we.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
Have we will seven hundred people inside a very nice
theater and then we will see, say other things. We
will be three of us Cornado and me and Amanda
May and also.

Speaker 5 (01:26:18):
In all.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
And then I think that the organizer is also is
Francisco Liberati is organizing also life stream and also in English,
so we can diffuse the information on English. And then

(01:26:43):
we will do the final conference, probably in the Runa,
but in twenty twenty six. Because the work on Jitza
is not finished, because until we don't know everything about
work on Jerney to the complex network of times that

(01:27:05):
are underneath the Jitus Plato, we not finish, but making
an estimation in June twenty twenty six the work on
Jitsa will be finished. So we are expected to finish
everything in June twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Okay, amazing. Is there any way people from the audience
can help, you know you mentioned computers, if we can
surround you in computers. Is there any way people can
can help. Is there any sites that they can go
to or.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
Yes, yes, we will establish a foundation so we'll be
able to receive a donation. Probably the foundation will be
established in all time. In the meantime, you can send

(01:28:01):
me an email and if there is a bot interested
in help, because we really appreciate you, can contact me
or travel classy also and we will give everything about
this before X before executing the foundation, because we need

(01:28:23):
some time to be inactive with this foundation, but we
are working with it. In the meantime, you can contact
for you or travel of meeds and we will manage
how to receive any kind of donation that people are

(01:28:44):
are interested to give us for all one, for all mankind.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Excellent. Yeah, the links, I'll have those in the description.
So if you if you do want to help, I
really think this would be just an amazing breakthrough, you know,
of our whole generation, maybe humanity in general. You know
what if we learn the actual secrets of our history,
and it's unbelievable so thank you both so much for

(01:29:13):
your time and for your efforts and anything you want
to share before we leave.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
I guess I just add, yeah, that's that's some of
the promising, exciting stuff coming up next.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
But also we might be getting more confirmations either of
the method itself, but are also just the results if
we get more information from the plateau, which could come
from new scans, And I'm even trying to track down
some other older gpr skins and things like that. But

(01:29:47):
I do want to thank you a lot, Chris, for
being someone who's who's been open to this and really
a voice of reason as the as the debate came
out about the legitimacy of all this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
You really were so one that stood up and I
kind of said, look, we at least don't know yet.
We certainly can't say no, we should at least remain
open to it. Which I really appreciate in the public
sphere was people were really, you know, a lot of
people commenting on this had no idea what the radar
technology was at all. For you to have experienced in

(01:30:22):
the in the military, to have some radar experience, it
was really awesome. So thank you very much for yeah,
hosting this conversation, getting us all.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Together to talk about it more. But we are as
far as the excavation.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
I believe we're supposed to hear back maybe in a week,
about a week as to the final We've put in
some work to get a preliminary report on some of
these locations investigated, which will be submitted with our new application,
and this is through William Brown and Richard Gabriel and
I have been working on this. But if we get it,

(01:30:59):
you know, we're going to the Coffer Project involved in
helping with the actual project for sure. But we should
be getting a final report on what that application is
going to look like to look over within a week
or so, and if it all looks good, we're going
to submit it and just you know, hope and pray,
and everyone out there if they want to help, hopefully

(01:31:22):
will have the option to actually donate your own computers
processing powers soon and you'll hear about that as soon
as we do set it up, of course. But if
they just want to help spread the videos, help spread
the interviews, help spread awareness, that's the best.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Help anyone out there can give to the whole project.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
So it's very much appreciated as well as donations if
you can who can work that out. But thank you
both so much for letting me be part of this
conversation today as well. And it's really really great stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
Yeah, so if you're in the audience, like Trevor said,
just sharing it and then being open minded. Even Ian
Hausenfelder when she said it it's not legitimate, but she
did say it's it's physically possible. That's what I love
is it didn't break any physics. It didn't break any physics,

(01:32:16):
but she said it's still bs right, but it's but
it didn't break any physics, and so that's what we
need to be open minded. Of course there's things we
don't know. Of course, we're going to find new physical
processes and if we can answer one of the greatest
mysteries of humanity, I mean, whatever happens you guys, uh,
you know, your your donation of this, with your time

(01:32:39):
and effort and all the spears you've taken, I think
will be nothing in the looking back. It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
Just just ending I can say it's in my book.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Yes, in my paper I could see Okay, excellent, Thank
you guys, Oh, thanks so much.

Speaker 4 (01:33:03):
It was because we are a respectful thank you, thank
you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
So what we've just heard could fundamentally change how we
investigate our past. Two independent teams using completely different methods,
found matching structures beneath one of humanity's most studied sites.
I mean, imagine if we could solve the mystery of
the Pyramids, what that would tell us about human history

(01:33:34):
and the technology to verify this. It's not classified, it's
not hidden, it's accessible right beyond. He hasn't shared the
specific algorithms protocols, but now that it's known how you
can do this. I mean he was able to figure
out in his garage, so I think anyone else could
probably figure this stuff out. And if Flipo and Trevor

(01:33:55):
are right, then that means we're standing at the edge
of a new era in archaeology. That's one where satellite data.
So of all the world, I'm pretty sure we have
all the satellite data we need along with open source methods.
Lets anyone participate in uncovering our history, meaning it cannot
be kept secret by governments or even gatekeepers in Egypt.

(01:34:15):
Right once this tech is proven that it works in
other places around the world, it doesn't matter what they
say about access in Egypt. We can prove it through
other methods. So the peer review process is underway. That
you heard beyond you say, there's also more teams looking
to verify these findings, and as Trevor mentioned, the race
is on for excavation permits and that can finally give

(01:34:37):
us the ground truth at least for Giza, right. But again,
we can prove this tech in other places. So this
story is far from over. Make sure you are subscribed
and hit the notification bell. I'll be following every development
as it unfolds. I talk with Trevor weekly, and if
you want to support the research directly, I put Felipo

(01:34:59):
and Trevor contact information in the description below. You can
also contact me at my email. But like Trevor said,
even sharing this video helps spread awareness of what could
be one of the most significant archaeological discoveries of our time.
I mean, this is huge breakthroughs and what do you
guys think, What could it be that's down there? Is

(01:35:19):
just natural caverns that are in a weird spiral formation
that seems very strange to me. You know, are we
looking at just massive ancient infrastructure? Let me know in
the comments and if you want to support my work further,
I very much appreciate it. Mentioned before, make less than
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(01:35:41):
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Speaker 4 (01:36:01):
Peace,

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