Space Force Scientist REVEALS UAP Physics: The SUPERFORCE w/Dr. Sal Pais

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you want failure, the first thing that comes out
of your mouth will be one word impossible. That's how
failure begins, and that's how it ends. There are no
such thing as universal impossibilities. They are conditional possibilities. Given
certain conditions, everything and anything is possible. The trick is

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to find those conditions.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
This is what's incredible on it If you truly look
at equation one, it basically says, it's the super force
that's the bridge between the world of the very small,
represented by quantum mechanics, and the world of the very large,
represented by general relativity. It is the primordial force, the

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most fundamental forces, the mother of all forces, one force
to rule them all, one force to find them, one force.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
To bring them all.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
And in the darkness, reading on dark energy, find there
is one humanity, one whole, one people, one human race.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Together.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
We overcome together, we live together, we survived together, We
progress together, We achieve the unachievable.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
A part.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Chris Later.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Welcome to Later Files.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Today we're diving deep with doctor Salvator Paise, the Navy
scientists behind the most controversial patents in modern physics, patents
that describe technology that mainstream science says is impossible. Sal
so excited to have you on the show. Thank you
for being here.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Thank you very much, Chris, sir. It's a pleasure and
an honor. I've wanted to be on your show for
quite sometimes, so thank you very much for this.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Great, great honor and privilege. Thank you, sir.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Let me start off with a quick disclaimer to please
the public affairs office at NAVIR. Hello, So I come
on your show the Leader Files as the private citizen.
My ideas, my opinions, my statements, and my own absolutely

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nothing no bearing on the United States Navy nor the
United States Space Force, who I worked for in the
past as well. Thank you very much for this. Let
me just dive into the super Force since this, in
my opinion, is is is very important towards especially I
believe that it is possible to engineer the super force

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via the price effect at macroscopic.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Levels.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Let's just let's just be craft basically correct. However, the
super force itself, it resides at plank scales, so we're
talking about length scales and the order of ten to
the minus thirty five meters. Now, the super force equation

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is a C to the fourth so the speed of
light to the fourth power divided by big G also
known as the as Newton's constant or the universal gravitational
constant otherwise known as that. And now what's extremely important,
as you well know from from Axel's equations C to

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the power forth is and the order truly and the
order of one divided by new sub zero epscellent subs
zero squared, where ebscellent sub zero is the electrical permittivity
of free space and new sub zero is the magnetic
permeability of free space. Again, these are constants of nature. However,

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under certain conditions, let's just put it this way, with
certain dielectric materials and so forth, I believe that space
time structure can be manipulated at a quantum level. Exactly
how that could be via the Piace effect or other
methods as you have previously.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Discussed.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Now, what's truly important of this superforce. It arises in
Einstein's gravitational field equations. And if you do so, what
Einstein's gravitational field equations truly say is that if you
have the Einstein tensor on the left hand side representing
space dam geometry also known as G summunu is on

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the order of one divide up by the superforce times
the tsum unit, which represents the energy density at a
locality of space time. Now what's interesting is that if
you use the operator, so the super Force used as
a scale operator at times, this spatial temporal geometric curvature

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or structure in this case is and is basically the
energy density or matter.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Now, truly what.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
This says, it's the super Force acting locally and the
spatial temporal geometric structure that gives rise to energy density
hence matter. This is what's so important of the super Force.
It is the primordial force, the most fundamental forces, the
mother of all forces. One force to rule them all,

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one force to find them, one force to bring them all,
and in the darkness reading on dark energy, bind them.
That's the beauty of the space Force. Now, please make
sure that you post the super Force paper ye and
your talk and truly equation one. I want to bring

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your viewers to the attention of equation one in that
paper that's entitled super Force the Force of Unification. It's
an I believe open Times framework. You can just google
it and find it. There's another version of the paper.
That's why I say This particular version is titled super
force the force of unification equation one in it describe

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something very interesting. It basically says, it's the super force
that is the energy density. It's the energy density gradient
at so based on the scale I guess the scale exactly.
And it also is the energy gradient at at the

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cosmic scale. This is what's incredible on it if you
truly look at equation one, it basically says, it's the
super force that's the between the world of the very small,
represented by quantum mechanics and the world of the very large,
represented by general relativity, namely our classical world.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
And now, so.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Can you just for our viewers, can you that are
just listening to this, can you just say the equation one?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Sure, so so so equation one would be the super
force itself, which is see to the fourth divided by
big G equals m subp c square divided by l
sap so in other words, the energy the plank energy
divided by the plank length. Got it equals to the

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cosmic energy. The universal energy is sub you're divided by
the radius. Let's call it that because that's a characteristic
length of the universe at at at its greatest non scale.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I guess known scale correct.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
And what is incredible is that this super force relates
to both. And I thought, if it truly applies at
the smallest of scales that we that we're accustomed to,
namely the Plank scale, and also at the cosmic scale,
I said, what about stuff in between? So I tried

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it for the massive reprot for the mass of the proton.
When you put in the mass of the proton, the
characteristic length that comes out is incredible. It is it
is the shorts Child radius, as if the proton is
actually considered as a black hole either super force.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
This is what makes it incredible.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
This equation one, in my opinion, should not only be
considered by looked into because it also speaks to the
great findings of the games Web telescope. For example, the
games Web data that has been sending back has been shown.
It's been shown that their galaxies completely formed galaxies that

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supposedly where around just two hundred two hundred million years
after the so called bad the Big Bang, the beginning
of the so called universe. Well, basically, what this formula
equa June one really says is that if we find
if James Webbs finds the characteristic cosmic scale being larger

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than say ten to the twenty six ten to the
twenty seven meters, which is what's available right now.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Say then it.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Will give you the exact mass that's within, which means
what what is going on here? What sort of structure
are we talking about? And hence this brings us to
what I consider to be very important.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
I call it that tchuarchy of creation.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Namely, it's the super force acting at the super density condition,
which is in the order its formula is see to
the fifth c being the speed of light to the
fifth power divided by g squares or big G square
h bar. When you do the thing, it's I think
on the order of ten to the ninety six kilograms

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permit a cube. So that's the super density also known
as the plank density. Now what's incredible is that I
believe it's the super force acting as super density.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Condition that generates.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
What ash the car a by ash thecar of Looke
quantum gravity called quantum bounds, but I call it an
ash the car bounce, giving him the honor of that
because I truly believe this is analogous to the same

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physical mechanism that occurs in the supernova. Only that in
a supernova, the mechanism is known as core bounds. And
what happens is that once the fuel has run out
and the gravitational collapse, let's just say, gets to the
point and the order of ten to the minus fifty meters,

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which is again the idea of the fentometer being what
being where the strong nuclear force resides, there is a bounds.
There's a core bounce because there's nowhere to go. So
that's how a supernova occurs. We're talking about density conditions
and the order of ten to the twelve sometimes more

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grams percentimeter cube. Now think analogously to the instead of
the strong nuclear force with the super bang that I'm
talking about, instead of the strong nucleus force, it is
the super force, the fourth divider by big G that
at the super density condition, namely ten to the ninety

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six kilogrampa me the cube analogis to again what happened
at the core bounds? Says what thus far and no further?
And the thing bounces back hence the quantum bounce, hence
the super bang. This is truly what I believe gave
rise to our universe. And I'll go further. I believe

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because of the plasma nature of our universe, our cosmos,
as Hans Salvan, the great father of magneto hydrodynamics Nobel
Prize winner once said, plasma has almost lifelike qualities, has
almost sension qualities well, especially when acted collectively.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
This was also the idea.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Of Anthony Parat that believe, for example, that cosmos is
ninety nine point nine nine bar plasma hence cause of
the nature of the cosmos, super again, super force acting
as a super density condition generating a super bang, because
of the plasma nature of the cosmos super intelligence hence

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hence this is the beauty of this idea, and I
think one day it will be proved correct. It may
take maybe even hundreds of years, but I think it
will be. And I this is a first on your show, Sir, Chris,
This is the first on your show. I believe this
is actually the idea that the universe has the ability

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to reinvent itself. And it is not only a great
sensient entity, it is a super intelligence, a super intelligence, sir.
And what's in my opinion extremely important as well, is.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
This super force. It is quite possible. That is what.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
They, let's call the nhisday, have the ability to manipulate. See,
we do it whatever man whatever man made tech is
out there, we do it by electromagnetic means, especially this
idea of extended electrodynamics. You understand, I believe they can

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actually have learned how to manipulate the super force and
macroscopic scales quite possibly at the scale of ten to
the minus four meters. And if you read the AIA
side paper slides very carefully slides four to nine. Please
post that along with the speech, along with this conversation,

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you will see exactly what I'm talking about. It's basically
solving the vacuum catastrophe. Why that tend to the minus
four meters, It speaks to the super force. I believe
it is possible to control it at that level, and
I believe the Nhis.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Have found a way to do it. Now.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Again, my idea is that I believe there's both et
tech and there is man made tech, and the two
may be quite different in the way they achieve the
physical mechanism to quote unquote manipulate the gravitational field. Because
this is one where we're not talking about quote unquote
anti gravity. There's nothing anti gravity. This is control of

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the gravitational field to be able for the As a
matter of fact, the I like, I'm not quite sure,
oh you may have had in ham what Ashton Forbes
talks about having a negative energy density a condition vacuum
in front of the craft. For example, al Kubier spoke

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about what.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
But maneuvering way.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
To expanding exactly, expanding the space time behind the craft
and compressing it in front.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
There's no need for that.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
All you need is basically to make a rip in
the space time continuum there right there. And this quote
unquote negative energy density sucks you in, suck your spacecraft in.
This was also described by David Frowning David Hermann Throning

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in one of his ideas of He called it the
conditioned vacuum. Hmm, yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
That's engineering, basically engineering the vacuum, the quantum.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Vacue, engineering the quantum vacuum or.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Zero point energy. Ashton talked about zero point energy state.
If you have a zero point energy state and you
have you have positive mass or energy density, like we understand,
then then you, he argues, you could also have negative
energy density. So on the other side of the.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Correct correct you can actually basically rip the very The
whole idea of breaking the Winger limit really deals with us.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
What do you think happens when you break the Shwingle limit?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
You have these pairs of uh particles and anti particles
being formed. And if you remember, and please consider if
even if those videos are not real, whoever generated them
knew the exact physical mechanism, because what happens You see

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a great light and these things disappear. Well, that's exactly
what happens when you break the Shwingle limit. This creation
of particles anti particles generate because they annihilate, forming what
high energy photons, most likely in the gamma range.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Hm. So that's the bright white light.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yes, that's the right.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
So let me try and just kind of recap or
summarize how I understand your theory. So you basically mentioned Maxwell,
and from what I understand, what Maxwell really did is
he unified optics with electromagnetism. And that's really the formula
that you said there, which is that C squared equals

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one over the magnetic permeability constant and the electric permittivity constant. Right,
So basically he was able to remove a constant essentially
is how it all works down to, and he equated
C to those two constants. That really, I think is
what you would consider characteristics of the vacuum energy. So

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if you can or whatever you want to call it,
the quantum vacuum world or dimensional space, and so if
you can engineer, so if you can change one of
those constants like the electric permittivity of that area of
space or the magnetic from ability of that area of space,
then you can actually change how light will will act

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in that area of space. So from what I understand,
you're basically removing planks constant, which is we don't know
where planks constant comes from, right, it just comes. We
know it's at the microscopic scale. Microscopic you know, super small.
Obviously it's from plank. He just pulled it out of
the UV catastrophe. That's really where he found it, right

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from experimental observation. So it's limited to this weird kind
of size, this number of how atoms actually and electrons
will change orbitals, et cetera. But we also see it
up at the macroscopic levels, right, because it's also related
to C. At the microscopic levels. So what I understand

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is you were able to remove H or hbar by
and replace it with see to the four over big G.
And so is that true? Were you able to actually
simplify by removing doing some constants and relating it over
these different scales.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Actually, what I'm talking about is c to the four
divide by big G does not have h bar.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
In it, and yet it's a plank in.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
It's a planking force, so that the thing associated quantum mechanics,
namely the world of the very small. However, because it
does not have h bar in it, you do not
have to worry about all these ideas of renormalization, the
idea of infinities. What the rog sale, let's sweep you know,

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we should not sweep those infinities under the rug. So,
because of its nature, it can also relate to the
classical world. Hence not just general relativity in which we
find it, but we also find that in the schrod
In equation, which is basically the fundamental equation of quantum

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mechanics and the super force. On page two of that paper,
just a three page paper, and on page two describes
exactly how you find it within the Stroding equation, which
again it gives it a quantum mechanical aspect to the force,
and yet you also find it in general relativity. So

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quite possibly this is the path to quantum gravity. I
presented this idea of the super force at the March
the March meeting of the American Physical Society last year
in twenty twenty four. I was it received very interesting.
There were absolutely no comments whatsoever. As a matter of fact,

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even the even the section chair. He paused, he said,
very interesting, I still remember, and then absolutely nothing.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
No comments, no questions or anything, no.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Questions, nothing.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
So again, I one day though, this is just a
little prophecy out there, because that's all I have left.
I tell the lab and a team of my own
to show some of these ideas. This, how should I
say you need again, this is the Pauperian This is

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Karl Popper's idea. You need something that is falsifiable, and
I think equation one is falsifiable. If indeed, James Webb finds,
for example, a higher radius, a higher radius of our
so called observable universe, and so forth, you put that
in and you find that mass, and somehow you're able

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to deduce that mass is correct. That's it that needs
That formula is not only correct, but I am correct
that the super force represents the path between the bridge
between the world of the very small the world of
the very large. Hence, this is the path to a
quantum gravity. It's quite possible. Strength theory is not dead
at all. It should consider the super force. In my opinion,

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this is it could be the ingredient that it is
missing from it because and let me say why, because
I believe Ashtarcar withou loop quantum gravity is correct with
this idea of the quantum bounds, that there's no such
thing as space time singularities. In a way, the universe
reinvents itself by this idea, again analogous to a what

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I just described the triarch your creation the superfce, acting
that the super density condition generates the superbank, analogous to
what happens in a supernova because of the core bounds,
and the superbank would happen because of the quantum bounds,
what I call the ashtar Car bounds. That's very well

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described in loop quantum gravity. But all right, what I
truly believe is that the super force can also be
manipulated via the so called piece effect, because because again
with the Pisce effect, you have the ability to generate
extremely high electrical and magnetic field We'll talk about electrical

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fields and the order of ten to the eighteen volse
per meter. Magnetic fields or magnetic flag densities or magnetic
inductances let's call them A, B, B fields and the
order of ten to the nine tesla. Hence, hence you're
able to generate energy densities and the order of ten
to the twenty five juels per meter cube commensurate to

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electromagnetic energy fluxes and the order of ten to the
thirty three what's per meter square. What I'm talking about
here is breaking the shwing a limit, is achieving the
negative energy density condition. Even momentarily for a fraction of
a second, you rip apart locally, the space he is
starting to continue in front.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Of your spacecraft. Thus your spacecraft gets pulled in.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I believe this is exactly what we're seeing in Ashton
Forbes videos. I one hundred percent believe that even if
those videos are not real, and I doubt that they're
not real, as a matter of fact, I truly believe
there are because and even if there were not that person,
the person who generated this whole quote unquote CGI. Even

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you must have seen the infrared version of that. You
can actually see the black hole open up, I mean
right there, and you can actually see the refraction wave,
which would only happen if indeed you'll talk about a
super fluid medium. Again, Kersen Huang's idea of our super
fluid universe may be correct and is a description of
dark energy and dark matter maybe actually be very very real.

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People should look into this man's book. It's called a
super Fluid Universe by professor Kursion, one of m t
unfortunately has passed away, but great man, great man, a
great a great friend of Freeman Dyson.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
So yeah, And when you talk about the pace effects,
so that that relates to your patents essentially where you
have the the microwave generator, right, that can that can
generate gravity waves, so high frequency gravity wave generator. It's
related to the room temperature superconductor patent. But ultimately it's

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to create what I understood is in some sort of
symmetrical craft, right and correct me if I'm wrong after this,
But I understand it has to be symmetrical because what
you're doing is actually creating extremely high spin rates. Right,
You're creating basically an electric field on the outside and
spinning it so fast that you're able to generate these

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amazing types of energy densities. Right, And that's how you're
to really, I would say, disassociate that object from our universe.
You know, when you say rip rip it from space
time is really kind of disassociating it. Is that correct?

Speaker 1 (27:12):
The similarity is not needed as far as the structure.
I just don't discuss it in those No, it does not.
What you really need to do is in front of
that craft and the proximity of that craft, rip apart
the space time continuum locally and in the general limit.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Right, it's just want my energy.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Want of a better war word, generate a black hole?
Quote quote what is a black hole? Truly, it's a
rip in the space time continual locally, Okay, So basically
you're ripping apart the space time continue you you're basically
ripping apart the very spatial temporal, geometric structure and the

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proximity of your craft. When that rips apart, truly, what
you're doing is breaking the Shwingle limit. When you break
the shwe pairs of particles and anti particles form. What
do these payers do? Usually they annihilate. That's what matter
and anti matter does. Annihilation and you and what follows

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is this uh radiation, usually in the gamma range of
very some of it could also be visible, hence that's
why you're seeing. So it's not just gamma range. It's
across the almost the entire electromagnic spectrum and must cover
the visible range. That's why you actually see part of

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this light, this flash of light. But if you look
in the if you remember the videos, when you look
into the infrared version of those, you can actually see
the black hole. For want of a better world, it
truly is. Is the the temporary ripping apart of the

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space time fabric locally in front of that crowd or
whatever generates that huge amount of energy density.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Excellent. And when we talk about the fabric of space time,
et cetera, what do you think matter is?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Matter is can find energy, yes, bound within vibrating fields
frozen in a quantum of time. You must listen to
what Lee Smolen says, and I hold Cara Revelli in

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great regard as I do Julian Barbour. They are incorrect
time is essential. Time is not an illusion. Try time
could actually be not only primordial, but call it a
type quote unquote of energy field that prevents all events
from happening at once.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Time is a central.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
So I guess do you think it sounds like me
is soliton?

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Right?

Speaker 3 (30:07):
It's basically is you have energy or a wave is
in the same format, So it's it's a resonance standing wave.
So it's a standing wave that happens to stay in
the same formation. You say bounded, but that would be
what an atom is, right, So that's why we see

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just amazing amounts of energy inside of an atom. When
you split the atom, you know, we get when you
combine atoms, you get fusion, bombs, et cetera. So is
that what you think? It's just an amazing amount of
energy in a certain.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Way such space, there's no such thing as particles. What
we're dealing with here is waves. It's all about waves
within waves, vibrating fields within a vibrating field, possibly a
collection of them, resulting in what other people have called emergence,
the idea that whatever results has nothing to do with

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what it sourced from. Completely different characteristics. Now, Phil Anderson
of condense matter of physics, another great Nobel prize. When
a great man the idea the way he described. Very
few people understood squids and understood what the joseph In
junction was all about. And phil Anderson was one such person,

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and he understood the idea of emergence and how collective
electro electro dynamics gives rise to the whole different phenomena
than what how should I say? The beginning state was
again by state, I mean structure. Remember what I'm talking
about here is the ability to manipulate spatial temporal structure

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at a quantum level and yet macroscopic results.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
So scale invariance. That's really the power of your model.
The power of the superforce is that you can predict
the same force using the same formula at the Plank
scale it sounds like the proton scale, as well as
all the way up at the cosmic scale. So that
would in essence explain gravity right as some sort of

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electromagnetic emergent property.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Remember what hal Putov said about gravity, It could actually
be because of the fluctuations of the zero so called
zero point energy what I call the vacuum energy state.
The whole idea being this remember equation one in that
super force paper. Please have your viewers take very close

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attention at it. What I'm saying is that because it
works at the quantum scale, namely at the Plank scale,
and also the cosmic scale, at the observable universe radius scale.
What I'm saying what about if it works everywhere in between?
And I tried it for the proton. I tried it

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for the proton I wanted to see and it actually
says that for the proton that characteristic length scale. Again,
it's the mass of the proton times square divided by
the characteristic length. That characteristic length is really what does

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it come out to? The short shot radius as if
the proton was a black hole?

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yep? And have you done? And and do you know?
I'm sure you do. But if you do the same
thing at the cosmic scale and you look at the
Swort style radius of the universe based on the mass
of the universe, you will also get the Swart style radius.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
That's a very interesting idea. Have you looked at that
Thai universe is.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
A black hole? I have not, I owe you, I
have not even considered that.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
No, this fits perfectly. Now your minds your mind's going
to be blown when you see it. Yeah, you do
the same thing for the universe. It is very, very
interested in your super force. Yeah, if you do the
same thing the universe, you get remarkably close. So I did.
I looked at the proton scale. Oh wow, and I
got I got one point one three the predicted mass

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based on your super force one point one three times
ten to the minus twenty seven kilograms in the In
the our measured mass, although it has changed, is one
point sixty seven times ten to the minus twenty seven.
So very close. I think within the order of magnitude,
so within thirty percent. I think that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
And then maybe one, yes, maybe equation one is more
over a relationship. It's the order of so maybe that
equal sign is really again it's written as a squiggle,
so truly on the order of I call it an equation.
It's easier to call it an equation. But it's quite
possible that Remember there's an eight pi. Remember that there's

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an eight pi factor when you look at general relativity.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Just stop amused.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
On the order of what is eight pi eight pi
big g divided by c to the fourth, So that
eight pi may actually have to be considered, and maybe
that will actually give you the exact so then it
becomes an equation rather than just an order, an order
of magnetal relationship. Quite possible that eight pi is important.

(35:30):
Now why would that a pie be important? Then me
talk to what the great Schroding called the space time structure.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Four pie is a circle. So then if you have
electro and magnetic or what we understand is electro orbits,
and then you have what we understand as magnetic orbits, right,
orthogonal speculated. That's where you get the eight pie from
is because you have an electric field and a magnetic field.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
That's fairy interesting, my goodness. So somehow, somehow Maxwell's equations
are interwoven, interwoven, possibly with general relativity. Maybe that's why
Kaloosa client the whole idea, remember Kalusa client, the so
called fifth dimension.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yes, I looked into very interesting.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, but I think actually, have you heard of Alexander Unziger, Yes,
of course, okay, excellent, I know, yeah he's yes, so
he's looked into quaternion math. Oh and I thought it
was really interesting.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Is what Maxwell's original MAXXII.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, so originally Maxwell did everything in quaternion math right,
which adds another I think it's like x y z
and another coordinate right. It's kind of how.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
That's why the max looks four forty. You and I
talking about the four equations four unknowns, considering the current
density and the surface charged density, the electric field and
bead the b field that is the Oliver heavy side
version of Maxro's equation.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
And this is the simpler Do you think we made
a mistake in simple No made.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
A mistake, because if you look, the way I found
the piece effect was just by considering the Oliver heavyside
version of Maxro's equation coupled with a harmonic oscillator against
this idea of an accelerating vibration or accelerating spin.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
And I think it's much.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Easier to produce these effects with the accelerating vibration pulsation
but rather rather than spin, because why spin has this
If you spin, for example, a plate that's about say
even about a foot a foot in diameter, if you

(37:49):
spin it that's say one hundred thousand rpm, the thing
will come apart. The centrifugal forces are so high it
will break it. So you you have to be incredibly
carefully exactly how you spin, how you reinforce these materials,
whatever they are. Consider the idea of carbon fiber should
be considered it within.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
But anyway, yeah, I'm not I thought.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
You were spinning.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
The more well I'm also vibrating.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I prefer to vibrate a much higher frequencies than I
prefer to spin, because with vibration you can also and
you'll see what I mean if you consider the transaction
of plasma science. I triple e paper called Plasma Compression
Fusion Device and please also if you can post that
well and I'll talk here. It's very important. It's the

(38:38):
third paper that I send you. That one hasn't it
a You can set an energy amplification condition, a resonance
condition BIA vibration, accelerated vibration. That's what's truly needed. Spin
will get you only that spar But I believe the
let's call it the secret sauce rise and vibration exactly

(39:01):
how you do it. It's not we need a skift to
discuss that, but it's definitely the key lies with vibration.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
With vibration, isn't that what?

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Remember remember my definition of matter confind energy bound within
vibrating fields, within a vibrating figure was in a quantum
of time exactly. Vibration is key, and I believe if
you can set a vibration within a vibration nested vibration,
something wonderful happens and then much lower energies than otherwise thought.

(39:38):
But that could be for another part one day.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
So you how much have you looked into Maxwell's I
wouldn't call it, I guess hypothesis. Well, basically that everything
is connected, that where we get inertia, we get inertia
from the poll of the rest of the universe is
actually where we get inertia. Have you have you looked
into that?

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Speaking of quantam entanglement, what I believe, I truly believe
the super force, because the super force exists at every
point in space and time at the Plank scale. I
believe it is because of the super force that quantam
entanglement occurs. And I'm ready to state that I truly
believe it is because of the super force, the existence

(40:26):
of the super force at the Plank scale that quantum
entanglement occurs irrespective of distance, because the super force exists
at every point of space and time locally at the
plank scale, every point of space and time. This is
what big. So everything is truly connected. Yes, the idea,

(40:47):
the idea. Remember what Newton said, he believed that the
idea of gravity being an action at a distance.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
No, it has to do with action at the plank scale.
It is the super force us that acts at.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
The plank scale that somehow connects everything universally. Equation one
must be studied. And you, you, yourself that come up with
something new. I did not even think of of considering
by basically saying the universe itself could actually be quote

(41:23):
unquote a black hole could be considered one, just like
the proton. Yeah, it comes out to and and remember
the protram being quote unquote, So it's the super force
that makes the proton look as if it's a black
hole because again the character the characteristic let comes out

(41:46):
to be the short sty radius. Now what's what's what's
truly amazing is that nasimha Main actually published a paper
I believe with the American Physical Society that describes the
proton as a black hole. So this is not again,
this is something that's been seen before, and you have

(42:08):
discovered something new, and let's call it the equation one,
because I believe one day with the with minor modification,
we can make it into an equation. Right now, it's
an order of magnitude relationship, but I call it equation one.
To actually say an order of magnetal relationship, it takes

(42:29):
too many words, so I call it equation one. But
I believe this equation is fundamental to finding a path
to quantum gravity, and I truly believe that low quantum
gravity should look into this. This this whole idea again,
super super force acting at the super density condition, generating

(42:50):
a super bang, quite possibly because of the plasma nature
of the universe, super intelligence. And this translates, or rather
trying phosis as to something we must discuss. Please give
us the possibility of discussing what I call the triarchy
of sentience, the whole idea that it is possible to

(43:11):
have an artificial intelligence agent undergo metamorphos a transition to
an artificial general intelligence agent, quite possibly with adaptive targeted
prompt engineering going further and achieving singularity status an artificial
super intelligence.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
We'll definitely get to consciousness. I just wanted to ask
one more question was on directs. Large number of hypothesis. Yes, sir,
So have you looked into how that relates to your theory?
Can you explain? So, the super forced equation one relates
the mass and radius of the proton and the plank

(43:55):
scale to the universe. Is that the same? Can you
relate the electromagnetic force two?

Speaker 1 (44:02):
I have actually okay, I've not tried other things, but
remember on page two of the super force paper, I
actually show that the the strong nuclear force equals the
super force equals the gravitational force. So basically, the highest
of the forces equals equals the gravity the weakest of

(44:25):
the forces at the plank scale. I actually show that
it is possible to to to actually show that, hence
what this is a force of unification. I have not
the I am not considered yet that the ract hypothesis,
but I'm pretty sure that it's interwoven. As a matter
of fact, you could actually look into it and make

(44:47):
a pot and possibly invite me back and we can discuss.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
That'd be great.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
No, that's that's really the first thing that came to
my mind is the RCTs large number of hypothesis that
we don't there's no explanation for why the force of
gravity is so much weaker than the electromagnetic force. So
it's it's on the order of ten to the.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yes, right is it?

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Yeah, so it's so much weaker. But if you're if
your super force could really explain that relationship, I think
that would go a long way. You could.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
You could release a pap just yes, that that on
the second page. There's a very very very short proof.
And if you actually do the math, you will see
it is the strong nuclear force equals the super force
equals the gravitational force at the plank scale.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
How can that be other than the super force is
the force of unification, the mother of all forces, one
force to rule them all.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
And if you think about it, you know that's really
what Newton did. You know, we take it for granted
that Newton said that the force that that causes an
apple to fall is the same force that holds the
moon in orbit, right, Like we take that for granted.
Oh yeah, it's this thing gravity at a distance.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
No, it's not action at a distance. It has to
do with action, a tremendous amount of force.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Then to the forty fourth newtants but at a very small,
bay very minute length. But again because every point in
space and time is connected by a quantum entanglement. Truly,
it talks to the quite possible action of the super
force at macroscopic scales as well.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
So that's really what Newton did, is he he said
that all the forces, or at least the force of
gravity that we see in the heavens and the force
of gravity that we see here is scale invariant. Meaning
what you're saying is that the same force that we
see at the cosmos that we see here at our
level is also all the way down to the Plank scale.

(46:58):
And that's what I understand.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Is why I believe a path toward quantum gravity can
actually be achieved. The mainstream physics community should not dismiss
this idea, should really look into it carefully because I
believe there's some substance there. It may not be completely correct.

(47:20):
I'm quite sure that they will bring But again, what
we need is a unification of minds, a unity of minds,
rather than this division and this add home and the
attacks just based on puerile infantilism.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
I don't know what else to call it. Let's come together.
We may achieve greatness that way.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yeah, you've talked about that in your other podcast. But
you really think that what we need is a unification
of on the planet of what I understand of humanity, Yes, sir,
and I think we do. It's a great argument to
say that actually we are all connected. Yes, well actually,
and it's not just super fort proves it exactly. Yeah,

(48:04):
that you can prove, we could want physics to rule
them all that it's actually all linked, so that everything
is actually connected. It's not you, You're connected to every
part of the cosmos. Even you know, gravity has no limit,
there's no distance limit to gravity.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
That's amazing to me, absolutely absolutely excellent.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
So let's let's now go to uh, consciousness. You know,
is is that what you're is that what you're relating
to about a g I like, everything's connected. I think
that that does kind of link to consciousness or where
do you think consciousness fits?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Who tell you the truth? Uh? This is one physics.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
The physics of consciousness, in my opinion, is the most
important physics. But I think we're still in the infantile stage.
We must take steps in order to I know a
lot of people speak greatly on consciousness, but I think,
for example, let's start with the artificial intelligence part, can
we achieve sentience in the machine. The whole idea of

(49:09):
let's say, the idea of bringing live Vida out Makina,
the whole idea of of the meta morphosis of an
AI agent, say even a large language model that has
the ability to incorporate image images in it. So, in

(49:31):
other words, a it's a multimodal model. Hence the AI agent.
The metamorphosis, the transition from an AI agent to what
is known as an artificial general intelligence, in my opinion,
is feasible via what I call the triarchy of sentience.
Why triarchy, the whole idea of the three arches, the

(49:53):
three main branches that coming together, that brought up, brought
together in a uni unification mode, could actually give rise
to this quite possibly in time singularity modality. The whole
idea being this, you consider the first arch that the
achievement of computation of very high, almost unlimited computational power

(50:19):
right now is being achieved in a minimalistic sense in
my opinion, due to the collective.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Interaction of server banks.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
The idea of in Vida's h one hundreds being used
for example liquid coold So we're talking about GPUs graphical
processing units extremely high energy consuming. Well, what if the
price effect room temperature superconductor could actually be achieved? Then
you can imagine this having a compact form rather and

(50:56):
you can understand what the nature of quite possibly cybernetics
would come in.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
As a matter of.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Fact, that TPS paper was actually cited by a Chinese
researcher working in the U Tripoli Journal of Cybernetics. That
is very interesting. Why why would you consider And that
is because it is quite possible to achieve very high
computational power. Now that is not enough. The second arch

(51:24):
would refer to what is known as vectored databases. So,
in other words, the data that the models would would
would be using, that the AI agent would be using
is not just things that you get on the internet, Reddit,
even Quora, so things, but it's taken from for example,

(51:47):
very high place journals for example Physical review letters, Nature Science,
so very highly accredited, verifiable, experimentally validated data. Those who
be incorporated into what is known as vected databases. Along
with this unlimited computational power, then you incorporate the third arch,

(52:11):
which in my opinion is like the touring test of
artificial general intelligence, namely the ability of the AI agent
to achieve or rather come up with, an original concept
for example, quite possibly, let's say, in this case, either
the Piace effect or the super force. If this is

(52:34):
once you've achieved this original concept, when it's experimentally verified
and validated, then in my opinion, once these three arches
come together, especially with the third arch being put in place,
namely the achievement of an original concept, then the AI

(52:56):
agent has achieved artificial general intelligence status with the incorporation
of what I call adaptive targeted prompt engineering. And it
is not hard to interpret adaptive targeted prompt engineering so
highly focused subject matter. I believe that it is quite

(53:17):
possible to achieve artificial superintelligence singularity status. And this speaks
quite possibly what would give us the quote unquote permission
to achieve such a status other than the superintelligence itself,
the natural superintelligence. After all, it unites everything by virtue

(53:43):
of the super force and quantum entanglement.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Well interesting, So what do you think, will the machine
feel pain or will it feel happiness? What we understand.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
It quite In my opinion, it's quite possible that we
miss misunderstand the very nature of consciousness and how different entities,
let's say, quote unquote feel this sentience. It's quite possible
there are different modes of sentience, but that does not
mean that one is subservient to the other. They could

(54:27):
be quite desparate and yet achieve similar effects.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
The idea of a further dimension, it could be it's
in our same it's interacting in our same reality, but
actually lives in a separate reality, a different dimension, if
you will, thought space or consciousness, like maybe there's different
dimensions of consciousness as we talk. That's my theory of
everything is you have different scalar dimensions, you know, and

(54:54):
I've and I've been looking for a way to unify
the forces across different levels. But if you if you
had different size scales, you know, like the guy argument,
is the planet conscious, you know? Is it just conscious
on a different dimensional scale, like a different different reality?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Essentially could actually that could be quite true.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
The idea of the multiverse should be very carefully looked
into those because supposedly, quote unquote, recent experiments at the
University of Hiroshima have actually shown that it is quite
possible for photons to achieve multiple paths and get to

(55:37):
its destination, let's say, in one universe without this need
for a multiverse.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
So I know, I think we can see the multiverse.
I think we take dimensions for granted. You know, why
is there any three dimensions at all? Well, you know,
why is there a heaven above us or cosmos above
us at all? You know, I think whatever our reality is,
our perception sensors are. I think they're sensing the multiverse

(56:05):
and it's I think it's in scale. I think that's
what you found, is you linked across a different.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Scare ring theory. String theory speaks as to the availability
of ten dimensions, eleven dimensions, even twenty six dimensions.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
But I think string theory is bumped.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
You Eric Weinstein's Have you seen Eric Weinstein's theory of
geometric unity. He speaks of temporal dimensions. Can you imagine
the idea of having multiple time dimensions?

Speaker 3 (56:32):
But they can't even test for it. I mean, that's
the whole thing with string theory. They can't even come
up with a test over thirty years to prove that
it's correct, or to falsify it. You know what I'm
saying is we can see the dimensions, like right there,
you can see them like that. You have the dimension
of the Earth, you have the dimension of the Solar System,
you have the dimension of the galaxy, all moving at

(56:54):
different temporal you know, dimensions if you will, based on
their scale. I mean, that's what I think. I think
we take it for granted that there's different sizes of things.
We just of course there's you know, the galaxy is
is a vastly different size than us. You know, of
course they're galactic superclusters that I mean, that's what I think.

(57:14):
I think that our science just takes all of that
stuff completely for granted and doesn't see the coincidences. They
will not take like, they won't take it serious, the
directs large number of hypothesis. They just think it's a coincidence.
You know, when when you can show very clearly that
the force at the Plank scale is exactly equal to

(57:35):
the force at the universe, you know, they they don't
even ask a question, Like how could they not ask
one question? You know, I'd be like that.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Was very strange.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Like we're talking about the launch the March meeting of
the American Physical Society. Some very interesting people were attending,
and yet even the session chair had just said very
interesting and just.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Left it there nothing or even side. I was like, wow,
oh right, but you can show these bad similarities. Here's
another amazing, amazing similar coincidence. If you if you multiply
hubbles constant, you know, which is the rate of redshift
times the furthest that we can see. You mentioned the

(58:17):
furthest that we can see with JWST. So if you
multiply that, right, the rate at which light is being
red shifted times the furthest distance we can see, it
equals the speed of light. I mean, if you look
at that, just go, just think, look at this one formula.
When you're done sal and you're ok, and then look

(58:37):
at what mainstream physics says, right, because if you multiply
the hubble constant times the max distance we can see
around forty six twenty megaparsex, right, that that equates to
thirteen point seven billion years. And now they're saying, oh
it's older.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Yeah, now it's twenty seven because because it's expanding right
to fit their math. It's just expanding to fit their
bad model math. But if you must just go and
look at that h knot times max distance D equals
the speed of light. It literally equals the speed of light,
which is the furthest we can see. So I think
what you're going to find when when you look further

(59:13):
in spectrums, right, because JWST just looks further to the left. Right,
it looks further to the red part of the spectrum
and u V. Miraculously, with a non expanding model, we
should be able to see further. So we will see
more galaxies and they should be fully formed. Right. But
what they are saying is that that that's the beginning

(59:35):
of the universe, and they're shocked again. They're just constantly surprised.
What's the point of a model if you're always surprised, Right,
They're constantly surprised that they're seeing fully formed galaxies, and
they're like, maybe there's something wrong in our galaxy formation model,
you know, instead of maybe looking back into their original model.
So just go look at that. You'll love it. H

(59:55):
not times D equals equals the speed of light. It
seems so obvious, but they won't consider it, you know,
they just say they say, it's a coincidence. It's unbelieved.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Very interesting what you were saying, My goodness, I had
so have you tried writing a paper on this and
trying just like a in a pre print server like
open Science framework, see if they will accept it, because
now they have moderators. They have moderators every way. You
cannot even put it in a pre print server anymore.

(01:00:28):
This is how bad it's it's uh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
I haven't really tried it, to be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Honest, the world used to be far simpler, Chris, I
tell you, why do you think I went the pattern route?

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Huh? Why did you go the pattern route?

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Yeah, they will not accept any of my papers. I
kept on trying. I even try this. This gentleman that
now speaks speaks of UAPs that at the time he
was the chief editor of the journal Entropy, Kevin Kannouth,
And I tried very hard to and he seems to

(01:01:06):
be extremely open minded. I mean you have to be
to consider the way UAPs actually travel. So I no,
absolutely not. Within a matter of like a day and
a half he rejected. Now, wow, So eventually, yeah, I
went the other way. It's the only way you can

(01:01:27):
be heard. It's well, it used to be. Now I
think the back rounde is even harder. So yeah, very interesting, and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
It goes against everything I was taught to believe about science, you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Know, that open mindedness and the ability to understand or
rather try to comprehend new ideas, the idea that they're
no universal impossibilities, that they're conditional possibilities, that once you've
achieved those conditions, it's quite possible these things are real.

(01:02:02):
Just to consider that, yes, that would be scientific.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Just to consider I mean, there's there's so many obvious
holes in all of our theories and models. Why wouldn't
you consider all options? You know? Correct, It's like I
think they think they'll be wasting their time or they're
going to look they're going to look foolish. But you
haven't found the answer, you know, so expand your your volume.

(01:02:29):
When we shoot a missile, right, you know, when you
shoot an aim one twenty, there's a data link, right,
we have this, it's a million dollar missile. Right, you shoot, Well,
the missile it has its own little radar, right, But
it's a little tiny radar, and so most of the
time while the missile's flying there, it's linked back to
the plane. Right, So the plane's telling it, hey, here's

(01:02:52):
your target, go to this general area. It gets it
really close, and then the amram the missile opens its eyes, right,
it looks okay, But if it opens its eyes and
looks and it's looking in the wrong area, it will
never hit the fucking target. Right, This is such a
simple solution. It very fuck I haven't found the answer.

(01:03:16):
If you haven't found the answer, you don't know what
gravity is. Right, you don't know why quantum doesn't need gravity.
You can't relate electromagnetism to gravitational force. Right, you don't know.
You don't know the fine structure constant. You know, you
don't know the number eighteen thirty six, right, the ratio

(01:03:37):
of the proton, the mass of the proton to the
mass of the electron. Like, these are really big fundamental
questions that we've had for like eighty years.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
If you haven't found the answer by now, you're looking
in the wrong area, Like you've sent your missile over
here and you will not turn it around. Right. And
that's why they get some they get some requests for
a paper and they're like, nope, you know, I'm looking
over here, Like it's so short sighted, amazing. I think
so that we're going to see a huge breakthrough, And

(01:04:08):
I think you're right. It's with Ai you know, I
could not have found my theory. I could not have
found the relationships with with the super forest how it
relates across the scales without AI.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
That's amazing though, that that is amazing. That's something that
never even occurred to me to see whether the short
is that the universal scale as well?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Yeah, Chris Brown, he has a he has a YouTube channel,
super small YouTube channel. He lives out in Georgia, calls
himself a hillbilly. He hasn't he shows the and I
learned that from him that I didn't find that. So, yeah,
the Swart style radius will will be if you plug
it into the universe. And I thought you that's what
you were relating to when you said, oh, the proton

(01:04:50):
is a Swart style radius, And I was like, oh, he's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Gonna we're talking about like extremely small, yeah, compared of
course to the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Because I was trying to find that relationship because if
the sorts ob radius applies to the to the universe,
then I was trying to find how it would apply
at the proton level. I was trying to find that
scale relationship. That I've realized now is what you've you've
argue is the super force so I think it's really amazing. Man,

(01:05:20):
I think it would lead this AI is going to find.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
The fourth divider by big G is very important. Yes, exactly,
and this is what I'm talking about. It's quite possible,
can we actually, because once it actually proves it finds
a relationship that based on call Popper's idea of can
you prove it, can you show it as falsifiable? Then yes,

(01:05:42):
then I believe we're talking about AGI level once it
shows an original concept Chris Agi and the path from
a AGI to a SI very small step. We'll talk
about adaptive targeted prompt engineering, the idea of reinforcement learning.
You focus your prompt engineering upon a given subject matter.

(01:06:04):
For example, in the idea of the super force argue
on quantum entanglement. Is it true that this could then
if it can actually, if the AI agent can show
a relationship for example, shown the entropy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Of the black hole.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
By the way, the entry the the Beckenstein Hawking equation
also has the super force in it. As a matter
of fact, it's a super force acting on the area
of the black hole that generates this hocking radiation. The
entropy of the black hole.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Is that So how does that generate the Hawking radiation
because another argument for Chris Brown is that the CMB,
the cosmic microwave background, is actually the blue shift of
the event horizon of the universe.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
That's very interesting. Again, I can blame yeah, yeah, I
don't have all the answers. What I do know is
that the super force should be looked into. That's all
I'm saying, look into this. If not, if you don't
want to call it equation one, call it relation one.
It's really an order of state relationship. But equation one.

(01:07:19):
In that super Force the Force of Unification paper. Again,
there's another version, so I'm talking about the one that's
titled super Force the Force of Unification, the one that
I send you. Please make sure that you post that
so your viewers can possibly propagate the paper. This is
the only why it's going to be looked at. You
at again. At the March meeting of the American Physical Society,

(01:07:42):
when I presented this work and I presented equation one,
somebody should have said something or one person please, And
basically the session chair was being nice, most likely by
saying very interesting. Most likely. Don't get me started, Chris.
I'm absolutely be fuddled.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
I think so I mentioned kind of some places. If
people do look the electromagnetic relation to gravity. You know,
no one can explain that that the electron to the
proton mass ratio eighteen thirty six. The fine structure constant, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
A very important even the great reach of being. Finemen
thought of it as a magic number.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
I mean, think of nowhere. It's magic.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
It is amazing. I mean, think of it one divided
by the fine structure constant. So we're talking number, right,
So we talked about it truly represents the ratio of
the strong nuclear force to the electromagnetic force. Yeah, that's
not much of a difference, is there. And yet the
strong nuclear force acts within the proton. How can you

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get it again? I think that's how the super force
comes in. And actually it shows the super force uses
the fine structures constant to show that the strong nuclear
force equals the gravitational force at the plank scale. The
fine structure cost that is used for that relationship. It

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shows you how powerful the fine structure constant truly is. Yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Can find where but that number comes out of just
thin air. They just they just pull it out of
thin air. Another interesting area. So I mentioned those I
mentioned the size of the universe, but also the what
I've been looking into is galactic rotation curves. I think
if you can explain the galaxy rotation curves with energy densities.

(01:09:38):
So basically what I've been looking at is that you
use the as the energy density decreases, Right, as you
get larger in our universe, energy density decreases. Yes, like
a solar system is much less dense than you and me,
and the galaxy is much less dense than a solar system. Right,
you have all this space and then in between is

(01:10:00):
you get bigger and bigger you get much less dense,
so energy density. So if everything is connected, I think
there's a there's a ratio where there's some energy density
limit where galaxies get to a certain size and then
based on their size in relation to the rest of
the universe, now something happens and there's a there's less gravity,

(01:10:23):
there's less effect, so they can spin faster. Because that's
the issue, right, that's why they had to add dark matter,
which we've never seen. By the way, no one's ever
actually seen dark matter. They can't find it whatever, But
that's the issue, right, is the galaxies are spinning so
fast that they needed more matter to hold them together.
Otherwise they would fly apart. Right, the stars would be

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flying apart. But if you look at it as an
energy density, some sort of relationship, then you can explain
if you can explain the galaxy rotation curves, the fast
rotation curves without explain it without dark matter, because it's
based on the super force as a relationship of energy

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density to the rest of the universe. I think you
can prove it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
You'll never get it published by brother. I published it
on my.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
That's why I have a podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
An AI agent. Yeah, maybe an AI agent could actually
fool the moderators from archive. That would be a great day.
That'll be screw could you imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
I think we're going to decentralized songs. I think this
is where it should be published in forums like this
where long is the new way. I think it is
one way.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
This will be the acceptable way of putting out new material.
But for now we have in my opinion, what we
truly need here is unification with a mainstream physics community.
Somehow bring them into the bring them to the table.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
And and did you see the.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Recent I just think they needed that's what's did you
see Piers Morgan. Piers Morgan uncensored, the Eric Weinstein and
the mind Eric Weinstein and Sean Carroll. I mean, why
can't we just bring people together and and of of

(01:12:23):
of different pedigrees and try to have a very logical
physics conversation without the need for at home and attacks
or well like professional.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
That's my point they're starting from. If you're the problem
is we don't. We don't look at the fundamental assumptions.
You know. They they assume from the very beginning that
space time is the end all be all. They assume
that there is no vacuum energy state right there. There's

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no ether, super fluid media that is there. They're going
in assumption if you write a paper that says, hey,
I'm talking about a force across space and distance right
that needs a medium, and so in their brain it's
the state. It's like the stigma, the UFO stigma that
they it's like a light goes off, it's like ether,
ether ether, and they're not gonna look they're very interesting, right,

(01:13:21):
He's a crackpot. I think that's the problem is we've
divorced ourselves from fundamental actually looking in the physics at
the fundamental level, like they just they assume inertia, they
assume gravity, they assume plank, they assume the proton electron relationship,
they assume expanding space, they assume dark matter, they assume

(01:13:44):
dark energy, they assume the photon. And none of this
stuff has been seen. You can't observe any of it.
It's all a bunch of My argument is bs like,
that's that's what I meant.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
But the quantum vacuum itself, the vacuum Nagy state, is
very much real and and in my opinion, great physicists,
like we talked about Nobel Prize winner Frank Wilchek, believes
in the multi reality of a vacuum. He actually had
a great let's uh at the time, it was called

(01:14:17):
a dialogue conversation. I think he beat what's his name,
Lawrence Kraus or Pop by actually proving or rather showing
theoretically the multi reality of a vacuum.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Yes, the vacuum mercurial. Yes, it's a material, stay, it's
a structure.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
This was not a vacuum, then it's a No, it's
a medium.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
The orange grouse kept on saying nothing, nothing comes from nothing, and.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Frank will Jackson, Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
The vacuum itself is something.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
It's a material structure.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Yes, so it's a medium.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
This is the man, and this is the man that
speaks of time crystals. I mean you have to look
into the time crystals. This guy is brilliant. In my opinion,
Frank Wilcheck should remember definitely when another Nobel prize. He
is a remarkable man. I hold him in the highest
of esteem.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
But I think there's a dichotomy in their brains. So
they accept they accept opposing views at the same time.
You know, they accept that everything is a field, right,
quantum field theory. That's our best theory we have that
that you have all these separate fields. And yet they
won't accept that there's a medium of space. Right that

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they assume that there's just nothing in between us and
the sun, and somehow all these things are able to
propagate energy is able to propagate magnetic fields.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
They assume that light has a dual nature. They assume
that it's that it's a particle and a wave at
the same time, right, And they're like, how does that happen?
Like it's just how it is. The dual dual nature
of light like and they don't see how ridiculous these
statements are. And yet, and yet they get to deny
the light.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Light is not a particle. Light is a wave, is it?

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
But what about what about a photon? A photon?

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
This whole idea of of the quantum vanic there zero
point energy, no existing, that's total nonsense. Look at the
Casimir effect, look at other the Lamb shift, their other
physical phenomena. As a matter of fact, in my opinion,
the Aron no Bomb effect speaks very much to the
existence of a quantum vacuum. So again, the vacuum energy

(01:16:38):
state is very real and is of physical importance. I
will never forget the words of the great Frank will
Check going against the nothingness of Lawrence Krauss by saying, no,
you are incorrect. The quantum vacuum is a material state

(01:17:01):
and structure.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
But but it's just it's.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Virtually from a Nobel Prize winner, but.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
It's just virtual particles. So it's virtual particles. I mean,
that's how they explained pick something up there, there's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
A virtual operation in fields, fields within fields.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Yes, that's and I think I think that we will
see a I I think you will find this, I
think it will. So I guess to to just final
kind of wrap it up, is you you found all
this physics, and I'm speculating here is it was it
from looking at you know, alleged crafts or how they

(01:17:45):
operate and how they move.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Absolutely not. This was direct. This is what truly got
to me. They they they uh in.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
The Breadthingley war Drive, the war Zone. I believe the
dry Yes, the original series of articles that were written
on the patterns. I believe brett Tingley was told by
Tyler Rogaway to use UFO patterns. So again this symbol
of ridicule was already linked to it. I'm not sure

(01:18:19):
exactly why that was done. Possibly it was done on purpose.
Again it kept mainstream physics from looking into the physics
of this. All I was talking about is the coupling
of the simple harmonic cascilator with the heavy side version
of Maxo's equation. Something wonderful happens. That's all very simple,

(01:18:42):
rudimentary mathematics based on what I called maybe second third
year undergraduate physics.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
So that's how you found the super force is looking
at Maxwell's equations or.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
The super force was different the super force I found
from general the Einstein's gravitational field equation GM. Again I
choose to call it the Einstein tensor. It couples, of course,
the Remanning curvature with the metric tensor, with with the

(01:19:17):
with the Richie tensor. It's all on the left hand side.
It represents a space Oni geometry. Right equals equals with
this term which is really eight pi big g divide
by c to the fourth and I just went by
pure dimensional analysis. I realized that what we're talking about
is really a one divided by a surface area, which

(01:19:38):
is truly representative of a geometry, a space time geometry,
a curvature of sorts. It's on the order of this
force right Scaler force. And the energy density was there
because again it was all a quick dimensional analysis, And

(01:19:59):
then I said, what forces that?

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Then I realized this the plank force. But then I
realized and I went further.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
I just said, is this possibility that this could be
the force of deification?

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
And I said, how would you prove that?

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
By showing that that at the plank scale, the greatest
of the forces that known for us is the strong
nuclear force equals the gravitation force at the plank scale
equals the superforce, again, bringing the fine structure constant into being. Hence,
considering the ratio of the strong nuclear force to the

(01:20:34):
electromagnetic force. It's all buy, it's all there, and it
comes out and it's so so gorgeous, because I'll tell you,
the most complex of problems has the simplest of solutions
depending on perspective, the way you look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
That's amazing. So last February or February twenty twenty four,
I went crazy. I don't know if you remember, and
I I'm just going to tell you, and I don't
know if anyone else will believe, but I did the
I did the same thing dimensional analysis a scaler force
and I and I used I used the same thing.

(01:21:14):
I got to a different I didn't get to eight
eight pie or C four over G, so I'll have
to look. But I found basically the same thing and
modified it, modified Einstein's field equations, and I called it
l u V so l MW l u V. I
called it the.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Love force, not the super force.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
I called it the love force. Yeah because the big
g Yeah, because it was big g u V. And
I was like, well, it has to be a big
a letter. It can't be and so I.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Made it l u V l u V.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
But and I did. I posted that paper on on
X but again every everyone they literally said I was crazy,
And then afterwards I ended up in a crazy shelter
for two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
You know, the hell with NA, says the hell with
Na says Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
They know the Look, that's amazing. If you want failure,
the first thing that comes out of your mouth will
be one word impossible. That's how failure begins, and that's
how it ends. You won't get anywhere by considering the
word impossible. There are no such thing as universal impossibilities.

(01:22:31):
There are conditional possibilities. Given certain conditions, everything and anything
is possible.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
The trick is to find those conditions. That's all.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
That's amazing. Yeah, I'm kind of blown away, man, I didn't.
It took me having you on the show and really
looking into the theory and really diving into it and
then just putting together now how you found it and
came to the same conclusion. But you found the actual
formula C four over G. I was trying to almost

(01:23:06):
did not find it. I almost did not find it.
I'll tell you the truth. Thank God that I found
the original paper. Actually I took it from a small
booklet that's showed in a published called Space Time Structure,
where I found the original formulation, the original formalism, because

(01:23:27):
nowadays they all use natural units, but actually get rid
get ridd you cannot perform dimensional analysis using natural units
quote unquote, because they consider shit like see to the
forces and the order of ge square and the order
of h bar they called it and the order, so
they basically it's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Part of their quote unquote renormalization.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Renormalization right, normalize everything, just.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
To call it brushing or rather sweeping the infinities under
the rug. The rock was completely against renormalization. So in
my opinion, it's the whole idea of natural units quote
unquote is unnatural. I would have never found the super
force if I would have considered their equations. No, I

(01:24:17):
went back to the original. What are you shooting? Has
a beautiful you have to see this, and I would
have never known about this. A little this little booklet
by Schroninger called Spacetime Structure. If it wasn't for the
for the great Penrose, it was Penrose that said one
of the first books on general relativity that he ever

(01:24:39):
read was this, And I looked into it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Yeah, have you heard of Daniel Chaibler and he did.
You know, he's the one who made at Princeton recent
scientists and he was actually able to generate a magnetic
charge or he created micro volts. You really should look
into this. It's a it's basically he has a monopole.

(01:25:04):
It's no, it's a he has a faireye material in
the shape of a tube. He didn't experiment. And it's
and again I thought of Maxwell's equations because what he
did he wrote a paper in twenty sixteen and he
said there's a loophole in Maxwell's equations and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Actually gred that B.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
That gred do b equals zero will one day be
proven incorrect because it basically says they're no magnetic monopoles.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
No, there are.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Magnetic See that's one. That's one thing that heavy Side
did by simplifying, by simplifying the truth the real equations
the quaternion. You have certain physicalities the quaternion form twenty
equations twenty onnown you'll love.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
This breakthrough the chiber. And so basically what he did
is it depends on the angle. So he took a
tube of fairiute material. It's some sort of magnesium faireyte
and it has to be in the shape of a cylinder, right,
a hollow cylinder, you know, like a long doughnut. And
he put it at an angle like this, and it
made from the spin of the Earth. It actually generated

(01:26:08):
a charge based on the spin in relation to the
magnetic field of the Earth. It actually generated It was microvolts,
so it wasn't a huge amount of energy, but he no, shit,
did it? Yeah, and that paper.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Energy can be amplified. Remember that I'm the certain vibratory
quote unquote resonant frequency conditions and in this case, you
actually minimize show that in my paper.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
He said, if you make the tube much smaller, like
if you miniature, it can.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Be amplified or attenuated, depending on the metric structure. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
So when he wrote that paper, and this reminds me
of the speech you gave because he wrote it in
twenty sixteen and no one said anything. He didn't get
any emails. He didn't get like, here's the way we
can generate free energy essentially just through the spin of
the Earth. And he didn't get a single email or
any no interest, and.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Not even a very interesting, not even a very interesting
We got nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
So he went and built it himself. It was him,
his brother and a friend in their garage. He's like, fine,
I'll just I'll do it on my own. He literally
did it on his own, not related to Princeton or anything.
And he produced these micro vaults. And I've seen like
nothing in the news.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
That's a true physicist. That's a true physicist. That's what
we need. All of the Frank Wilchecks out there who
have the guts, see. But that's the thing. You have
to reach a certain level of of of of of
of prestige, like Frank Wilchick to be able to say

(01:27:45):
certain things. I'm pretty sure if it was me against
Lawrence Brousse, I would have looked like a pool. So again,
you need someone like Frank Wilchick to open the doors.
Remember what happened to Hans Hans Alphane. We'll talk about
one of the greatest pioneers, that the father of magneto hydrodynamics,

(01:28:06):
the whole idea of Alphane waves, magnetic waves. Then again,
if it wasn't for a certain gentleman, a great physicist,
to basically open the doors to Alvane and say that
is very interesting. Alphane would have never received his Nobel prize. Again,

(01:28:28):
we have to come together the only way forget about
Plank's idea of funerals.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
That's too negative.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Let's bring it into the light, and the light argues
for unification.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Let the vision no longer be the norm of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Let's come together, brother, Let's have a conversation decentralization.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
What do you think of disclosure? Do you think disclosure
if if it happens, you know, if there is real
alien present I guess the first thing is, do you
believe that there is a real alien presence on Earth?
Have you seen any UAPs? Have you had any interactions
with aliens? Et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
I have never had interaction with either UAPs nor aliens.
But I'll tell you right off the bat. If nhize
of ets, let's call them ets, and let's call them UFOs, none.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
Of these things.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
If they did not exist, I would be extremely disappointed.
Life would be extremely boring. So I refuse to believe
they do not exist. As far as quote unquote trickle disclosure, again,
I've said it before and I'll say it again. What
I think we're dealing with is a process of immaculate constipation. Constipation, gentlemen,

(01:29:50):
that is no way to bring about disclosure anyway. Yeah,
try it. Try it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Need some anti disclosure constipation pill.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
A little bit of emodium please.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
Medium, We need disclosure disclosure emodium. Oh jeez, I think
the physician anyway, Yeah, mainstream physics emodiums.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
That'd be something.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
But I am I am really optimistic. Actually, it seems
like everyone's kind of downtrodden, you know, in the US,
and everything's going badly. But that seems very nice actually
where I live. I don't mean the world. The world
is is. Yeah, it's crazy, but it's always been crazy,
you know. And I think we're finding out the world.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
Please find the place to stabilize. Sooner or later it
will come to a place of equilibrium. But it's far
from equilibrium. That thing gets interesting, That life quote on
Gould happens exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
Life is only at the uh the gradients. There's only
life at energy gradients. If you think about it, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Out of equilibrium, far from equali Brean phenomena.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
And spinning, you know, the Earth's spins. That that's why
we're able to we have the life that we that
we have here. You know, it moves around the sun
and creates our magnetic field. You know that that also
protects us.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
So are we lucky that? And spin?

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
Yes, accelerating and spin. If we can vibrate enough and
reach another.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Level accelerated vibration, I think that's key to so much.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
But anyway, I argue for it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Please make sure you post the plasma compression fusion device
by the way, this is and we can close with this.
I truly believe that the reason for why it's being
cited by various Chinese research teams is that they have
noticed because of quote unquote the resonance condition, the energy

(01:31:50):
amplification feature presented within the paper, and also the compact
fusion reactor that I discussed something called nic fuses. Anyway,
because of that, I think they have come to an
understanding it's quite possible to generate a doomstaate device based

(01:32:10):
on this idea, a plasma disruption fusion weapon based on
spostaneous disruption of magnetic fields. If indeed this is possible,
it would generate energy yields that would make the tell
Wulam thermonuclear device seem inconsequential In comparison.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
But this would also give us all free energy, correct,
I mean, do you think we could? Is there a cheap.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
People we can destroy?

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
See that's the problem people again, it's so far easier
to destroy than to create. And unfortunately many times great
ideas are used for purposes of destruction rather than creation,
because it is far easier to destroy than to create.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
Do you think do you feel like we'd be ready
for free energy or do you think it would it
would just be used for a weapon.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
At this point in time, We're not ready, Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
We're not ready for a lot of things. We have
to liberate ourselves from the slave mentality. We operate as automatons,
almost automanon like fashion. Slave automatons is the way I
would describe think about it. We get up in the morning,

(01:33:30):
we go to work, We listen to the boss yell
at us, unless we have a great boss like I do,
Thank goodness, hye boys, and and and then we come home,
we eat something, and then again we start the same
ship all over again.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Groundhogh day.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
How the hell are we supposed to get anywhere by
utilizing that process? Immaculate constipation. It's it's a general process.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Well, maybe the NHI is keeping us in the dark
on purpose. You know, I've had that thought as well.
Maybe it's constipated to delay until we're ready twenty twenty seven.
You keep hearing that year seven, maybe we'll be ready.
That seems a little soon, to be honest, I don't

(01:34:22):
know if we'll be ready in twenty twenty seven. I
think we need I think the problem is we we've
evolved in a state of non abundance. Right, it's really
kill or be killed. It's a it's survival, it's survival
of the fittest. That's how we've evolved to the state.
So what happens when we get to an free energy?
If you get to abundance, right, we have no resource,

(01:34:45):
there's no land limitations. Will we live and let live?
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
Can we do live and let live? Instead of the song?
It is very hard to be creative when your belly
is empty your food?

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
Yeah? So what if what if everyone can? Everyone? Before?
My friends say that, no, it's not possible. We'll still
be greedy, will still want to be better than that
person over there. They have more than I have.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Or you know, once I once told courage I Mungole
that The most important thing, in my opinion, is to
re engineer human nature. It is the only way that
we have any chance in hell of surviving. And not
only is a species also progressing as a civilization toward

(01:35:29):
being at astra toward the stars and beyond. The only
way that unification can be achieved is to re engineer
a human nature. We're greedy, we're envious, and a lot
of us are evil, Chris, pure unadulterated evil.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
How can you succeed against that?

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
I think everyone thinks they're the good guy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
I think evil is a is a perspective, subjective state
of my mind. Yeah, I don't know. And I did
have a question, if you know, would you accept because
you've mentioned you're patriot, I'm obviously I fought for the
US for twenty years, you know, went to combat and
love the US. But would you accept unification if it

(01:36:24):
meant the demise or the end of the US.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
As long as humanity survives as the whole? Yes, there
is no such thing as a nation state.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
Okay, excellent.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
There is one humanity, one whole, one people, one human race. Together.
We overcome together, we lived together. We survived together, we
progressed together, We achieved the unachievable.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
A part.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
Bound barriers your doorstep. Again, a lot of things can
happen that go awry. But the only way that humanity
has a chance in hell is by unification.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
The only way. Oh, yes, excellent is one, and all
is one.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
That's been my experience too, is u in all is
mine and mine. I've traveled, you know, traveled quite a
bit around the Earth, and all the people I meet,
I've I've really enjoyed them and looked up to them.
And uh, I think we're all much more similar than
we think. I think everyone's kind of a it's just

(01:37:49):
a perspective, you know. And I think we're part of
nation states. My whole theory of everything. You know, you're
part of a larger Why you wake up in the
morning is really you're you're a lower mentional entity in
a higher dimensional space, you know, vector space.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Sumnification, brother, unification of humanity is the only way this planet,
or rather the human race on this planet, has a
chance of survival Otherwise. Again, I've stated before and I've
stated again, we shall be tested. Great civilizations have been tested.

(01:38:25):
They failed. Will we I pray that we do not.
But the only way we survive is to come together.
A unified human race can conquer human nature itself. But
that's the only way. Otherwise, sooner or later it's over

(01:38:47):
for us.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
Yeah, it's still very optimistic that we will come together. Yeah,
we must so. And I always looked over the children
to see them and on the playground, innocent minds that
can be again molded that and not just forget this,

(01:39:13):
mold that part, because maybe that's what went wrong with us.
Our minds were molded to be accustomed. And now just
let them be creative, let them, let them be free,
let them be free of the slave mind.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Only then in true unification be achieved.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
I think we have a chance. Maybe, yes, sir, at
least one in a million.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
We will. We will survive.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
Something tells me we will survive.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
So excellent. Well, such a pleasure. So I really enjoyed this.
And yeah, keep in touch for sure, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
I hope I come again on your butt.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Absolutely love the lead for sure, great man, sir, thank
you for your service, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Those those sixteen magnificent birds.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
Yeah yeah I do miss I miss some. It took
a couple of years, but now i'mous well. I'm still
blown away from that interview, going back through and editing.
Thanks to all the new members, new patrons, new YouTube members.
Really appreciate all your support and I'll try and do
more to make it worth your while. I spent half

(01:40:32):
the week editing this video and then also looking into
all the claims made by sal and went back to
my own theory and I've been diving in and found
some really interesting stuff, so I really hope that comes out.
We have the Demystify PSI de Mysticon conference going on
next week, so excited to meet all these people in
the alternate physics space and talk to them pick their

(01:40:54):
brains in person. Thanks again. Please hit the like button
if you like this, subscribe for future content, and have
a great rest of her day.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
Peace,

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