April 2, 2021 • 46 mins
Naya and Ilona get down to another favorite topic of their’s - FOOD. How much protein and carbs does it take to fuel a professional rugby player? If you follow Lo on Tik Tok you will know she has a BIG appetite! She avoid the word ‘diet’ and gives her body all the fuel it needs. They share their likes and dislikes, and their drinking habits before and after a game. let’s just say neither of them go hungry. They make sure that their nutrition keeps up with their calorie burn. But what about cheat foods like burgers and fries? Find out how these two feisty Leos stay healthy and well fed to keep their body tuned.
Hosts: Naya Tapper & Ilona Maher
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Hosts: Naya Tapper & Ilona Maher
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Here we go, hay cubs,and welcome to the Leo's den. My
name's Naia and I didn't know Brusselssprouts existed until three years ago. Okay,
haycups, I'm lone about my teammatescall me Low, and I have
this uncanny ability to just keep eating, just like I'll be full, but
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I will keep pushing it down.And we are two leos who love to
hear themselves talk. So before weget into the topic for today, we're
gonna obviously start with our horoscope.So the horoscope is, don't expect to
hit the ground running today, Leo. You need more rest than you have
been able to attain over the weekend. The Moon cruises through sensitive cancer all
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day, but finds herself lacking initiativeand energy due to her lack of connections
with other planets. Ultimately, today'sskies call for restore of actions and peaceful
solitude. Let yourself take a beatbefore kicking things into higher gear. Low,
talk to me, what is thisgiving you? I mean, it's
just kind of perfect because it's anoff day, so I'm chilling, you
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know. I woke up at likeseven thirty. I had to get a
COVID test. But other than that, I'm chilling. I'm packing a little
bit. I had bacon and eggsthis morning. Yeah, I mean,
I guess the moon's cruising and I'mfeeling good. How about you. I
feel like it kind of started forme yesterday after I got back from training.
Normally, Normally, when I gethome, I'm like, Okay,
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I need do this, this,this, I need to do this,
and my mind's kind of going crazy. But I got home and I was
just like moving in slow motion.I was like, I'm okay with this,
and kind of carrying that into today. So yeah, points, So
today we're gonna be talking about eatingas a pro athlete. And I mean
it's been wild, Like we've gota lot of questions for this topic more
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than our any other topics. LikeI guess people don't care about who we
date more anything else where. Theywant to know what we put in our
bodies. So I'm definitely excited tochat about this same. It's a very
interesting topic and people kind of knowwant to know, like what are these
girls eat to get to the prolevel? What are these girls eat to
stay at the pro level and performhow they do? Because we do have
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an exquisite body type, and ittakes a lot of nutrients to provide energy
to these lovely bodies. So todaywe're going to kind of get into that.
And the first thing we'll talk withyou guys about is what our current
diets are. So loo you wantto start them off with this one?
Yeah. So, I mean personally, I don't really follow a specific diet.
I think it'll be interesting in thispodcast because you and I are very
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were We eat a lot of things, we eat a lot different things.
We're not very restrictive eaters. SoI think people are going to call into
this and you're like, I eattwo eggs at this time, three eggs
here, and then I eat don'twant a chicken breast and spinage, whereas
I'm like, I had a burgeron Friday, yeah, and then I
ate chicken wings this day. SoI don't fall a specific diet. I
don't have any dietary restrictions. Idon't you know, I eat dairy,
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I eat gluten. I mean,I love cheese with all my heart.
I don't count any macros or anythinglike that, and I don't even count
calories. How about you. I'mkind of the same as you, as
you said, like, I mean, I eat what I need to feel
good but also to feel my body. I don't have any restrictions besides the
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fact that I'm very picky, solike I have the smallest palette you can
imagine, which is opposite of lowwho will eat anything anything. And my
friends are like that too, andI'm like, I just I don't have
it in me, Like anything thatdoesn't look edible to me. In my
head, it's nasty. It's nastyautomatically. So I mean I am kind
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of limited in that aspect. Butas long as you got some chicken,
some good veggies, and some carbs, like, I'm good there. Yeah.
Yeah. I recently went to atasting menu and you know tasting and
you like you eat whatever they giveyou. So, I mean, there's
a pigeon, moose and there wasa caveat and all this stuff, and
so Nia and other teammate jobs werelike, uh, what did you eat?
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And they're like, I want totry that, And I was like,
you guys, can't go to atasting man. You're not gonna eat
half the things they bring out.It's gonna be a waste of money.
I would never after you told meabout that, I would never go to
the tasting men you guys, Iwouldn't want to waste my money. But
Jazz was like, we have togo. You have to experience it.
And I'm like, I'm already tellingyou I'm not gonna like any of it,
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and like something like even you said, like, oh, like I
was surprised. You were like therewas a thing you didn't like. You
talked about how you did you thepigeon moose wasn't as tasteful as you expected.
And I'm like, obviously it's paulrice chip chicken or pigeon liver.
Yeah, but but we do,you know, I think even though we
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are very free with our diet,we do kind of stick to certain meals
specifically during the week. So talka little bit about what you're eating looks
like during the week and during trainingsessions. Yeah, So, I mean,
I eat whatever I want, you, but there are certain things that
I try to always eat constantly.Like so for breakfast, of course,
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always like a protein carb and maybea vegetable I'll try to get in there.
So on training days it'll be liketwo eggs toast, maybe some peppers
and onions and aby love havet baconwith it. I like having. I'll
have oatmeals some days with peanut butterand banana, and then I'll have usually
a snack in between. Sometime Imean to have two other eggs and some
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fruit or something or some chocolate mouth. And then for lunch. My lunch
and dinners are usually the same.I don't know about you. It's like
a protein, a carb, anda vegetable, so usually chicken, rice,
spinage or broccoli, whatever. Andthen after practice I'll have like um,
I can have peanut butter and pretzels, like a yogurt, beef jerky
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or something like that, and thenI'll come home I have my dinner.
And really recently I've been into smoothies, like making myself my smoothies and I
put like Greek yogurt in it,and I put, okay, here's my
problem though, I love sweetness,so me and sweeteners. I just am
shoving that agave and you're my smoothie, and I'm like, it's a goba.
It's good. It's not good.It's not any different than sugar,
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but I love it. So I'vebeen making these smoothies and they're delicious,
but I'm like, okay, well, well you're you're kind of tipping the
balance there, but it's your normaleating. Like every meal is a fruit,
a protein, a carp and agreen and lots of water. So
I'll have eggs, bacon, hashbrowns, and some oranges and a water
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bottle for breakfast. For lunch,I'll have rice, chicken, broccoli,
and cantloat. And then for dinner, I'll usually have brussels, rice,
chicken, oranges. Again, Ilove oranges. I'm all about vitamin C.
And then you know, it comesto snack time and I'm usually snacking
on some sunflower seeds, maybe ablueberry muffin, peanut butter crackers. That's
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usually how it looks during the week. And I'm a meal prepper because if
I didn't meal prep, i'd definitelybe ordering dinner every night. Yeah,
so let's get into that, becauseI don't ever meal prep. I don't
really like I don't actually like leftoras, but I eat them now,
but I don't actually like heating upfood that was from the day before or
whatever, so I never do it. So when did you get into meal
prepping or have you always done it? So you know at the training center
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they provide us food. So fora long time, when I was living
closer to the training center, Iwas just going there for all my meals.
But once I moved a little bitfurther away, I was like,
I don't want to make that drive, and I don't want to keep spending
so much money on food that Ishouldn't be eating in the first place.
So kind of during the quarantine,when the training sent it was shut down
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for food, I started mil preppingand I was cooking like four meals every
time that I would mil prep,so it lasts me about two days.
And now with mil prepping, itlasts me about four days since I'm only
eating the milk preps at dinner time. And it's kind of nice to come
home after training and just pop itin the microwave, knowing that it's food
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that I made, and that Iknow I'm gonna like the taste and what
exactly it is, and two minutesin the microwave, pull it out,
you know, sit on the couch, put on the office, and I'm
tearing that food up. There's afun fact about Nya too, she loves
the office. She can watch thatover and over again, Now, do
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you believe in cheat meals? Youalready know I do so, But like,
do you think like, oh,I have to eat healthy, healthy,
healthy, healthy, and then I'llget one meal. I think everybody's
version is different because I've heard thatversion it and I'm like, I can't
do that. Yeah, So Ithink it depends on the person because I
know, for me, I cheaton the weekends. If I could make
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it perfect to me, i'd onlyhave one cheatmail a week. Yeah.
Well right now I'm having about three, so I gotta cut that down.
I personally don't really like this ideaof cheat meals, that something that a
food you could eat is like onlyshould be special and like you shouldn't have
it all the time, or likeit's you're cheating something. Why am I
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cheating something by having a burger?Why am I cheating something by having a
donut sometime? Like, I personallydon't like to have those. Yes,
some meals I do go a littlebit. I have a burger, like,
but I never consider a cheatmail.I consider it my dinner. So
I kind of like to almost putthose meals into my normal diet because I
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don't I don't like the idea thatI have to prepare myself for this certain
things just feels like I'm then I'llfeel bad eating it. Yeah, because
I mean I have so a lotof our teammates are very different diets.
Enough, some of our teammates arevery restrictive, and we'll go, you
know, days and days without eatingany sugar and then they'll have that specific
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cheat meal that ice cream. Soit's very different. Like do you ever
think you should be more restrictive?I guess yeah. And I only say
that because the cheap meals I getare like, you know, you probably
shouldn't be eating a dozen doughnuts andfried chicken, Like twelve fried chicken means
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that's probably not gonna benefit our profession, you know, because everything comes down
to our body, our health,and how we can perform. So I
definitely like every week, I'm like, Okay, this week, I'm only
gonna have one cheap meal, youknow. And it's so weird that you
say burgers are cheap mail because Idon't see that as I don't see burgers
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as unhealthy because it's a meat,it's bread, and it's lettuce, I
guess cheese. I don't know you'dbe spriged. I think most people,
like even fitness people or anyone you'dask, would think of a juicy burger
as like a cheat meal and likewith s fries. But to me,
it's like, this is a greatmeal. My Casey and Kursh and I
have been doing. We have thisgroup chat called girls who Eat because they
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will eat anything, so it's kindof funny. I was talking to Nicole
about this. Nicole my best friend. You know, she's a very restrictive
eater sometimes and so I always hangauthor And one thing I love about her
is she's not judgmental with what Ieat. If anything, she's like,
you need to eat more because you'rea big girl. But I'll look at
her and I'll be like, you'reonly eating that. Yeah, so diciplined.
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So I'm like, wait, shouldI be eating this? But then
hanging out with like Kursh and Casey, I was like, oh wait a
minute, okay, so they're eatinglike I eat. It's it's kind of
nice to be around people who alsoeat like you because it shows you like,
okay, I'm okay, because itis hard, like do you ever
look around at the teammates and belike, oh, man, should I
be eating that or should I havemore greens? No, because I'm like
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I'm looking eat down. But I'mlooking at my body every day and I'm
like this fighty looks damn good.And then I'm going out and running fast
as hell, and I'm like,well, like, shoot, I'm whatever
I'm feeling with it is doing mepretty good. So you know, I've
never had to really like I justnever. I was never in a situation
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where I lived in the mirror andwas like, oh, dang, I'm
getting weight, I need to stopeating, or oh I'm slow, I
need to stop eating. Because evenin the fitness aspects, I've tried to
like eat super healthy and you know, and I didn't have any energy.
Yeah, so I'm like, okay, well, you know, I'm just
gonna go back to, you know, eating healthy during the week and enjoying
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myself on the weekends. And ifthat's benefiting me in a positive way in
the field, that's where we're at. Like I don't really look at other
people's plates because I'm too busy tearin mine up. Yeah, I think
that's so key. Like I thinkwe're so programmed to want that number on
the scale to be lower, andso I mean recently, I had a
conversation, you know, with ourdietitian, and I was like, oh
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man, well shy, I weighin at one ninety eight. Where I
want to play is one ninety seven, and I'm like, oh man,
though I'm at the way I wantto be, I'm like, should I
cut like I want that? I'mso programmed to want that number to be
lower. Yet at one ninety seven, I've played my best rugby and recently
that I feel like I have almostthis food freedom. I don't know when
I kind of got this way,but I feel like I can eat what
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I want and it feels so goodand so like I'm freeing to not feel
bad about what you put in yourbody, because as an athlete, as
a female athlete, it can bevery hard sometimes. Yeah, Like I
mean, the body image issues,it's so wow. Some of the people
on our team, how again,have the best bodies ever, but they
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have the some of the maybe tough, the strictest diets. This the worst
body image. Like It's it's aninteresting game to play with food and being
a pro athlete. Yeah, itshows you how much of a mental situation
it is Yeah, because as yousaid, you're looking at these girls with
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these beautiful bodies and so many differentranges and they all eat completely different,
completely different, And it's wild because, like I think I need to come
to terms with like, Lo,this is what you're gonna decide. You're
gonna be eat that amount because that'swhat your body needs. Someone even like
you know you or or Chatta who'smaybe a little bit smaller than me,
but she's not you know, notmuch like she might eat less than me,
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but that's what her body needs tofuel it. So that's why I'm
like, well, you know,I'm looking looking over so I'm a comparer.
You know, I'm so getting tothat level of you of being strong
in myself. I'm here to help. But you gotta think about also,
it's not all It doesn't have toalways be about the amount. It can
be about the quality. If you'reeating a big ass salad with a lot
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of chicken and a couple of crutons, you know, it's a big meal,
but it's has it's of good qualityfor your body. Yeah. Now
did your diet change like before andafter going prowl? Yeah? And I
kind of tried to act like itdidn't, but it definitely did. Because
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like running track and field, wewere eating McDonald's before our track needs and
this was like our coach like,all right, you know, let's go
to McDonald's. It's the only thingthat's open. And then for lunch,
you ate cafeteria food before you wentto to practice. We had hot cheetos
and candy and snickers like you know, we ate like kids. Like Yeah,
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I would go home after trainings.I would have three packs of gummy
snacks, a honey bun, twobags of chips, and then my mom's
dinner and then some more snacks,tons of juice. Yeah, I was.
I was in shape, I wasrunning fast. You know, I
looked I looked great. I feltgreat. And you know, that's your
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young body letting you, your youngstelf do what you want. And then
you start getting older, and likeI became, I went into a profession
that required me to really focus onthe performance of my body. And with
that that includes what you eat,your nutrition, and in the beginning,
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you know, I was still kindof eating whatever. I liked wings,
whenever I liked spaghetti and all thatgood stuff. And then you start learning
from the people around you like,oh I should eat spinach. I never
ate spinach growing up until I movedto California. Oh I should eat brussels.
Oh I should have more water thanone cup of day I was drinking
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nine percent apple juice or trap acannon juice and like yeah, and even
like if when I go back home, my family still operates like that,
yeah, you know, and I'mlike, do this, do that,
do this, do that, andthey're like, yeah, hey, you're
just doing this five years ago.Yeah. I feel like almost the same
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way. Like growing up, mymom and my dad are such amazing cooks,
but they cook everything homemade. Butit's like, you know, everything
was like whole, whole milk,butter and all these so it's like these
some like chef quality foods, butI ate a lot of it. My
parents would make fresh bread. Iremember coming home from basketball practice slicing myself
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a thick boy of that, puton some butter and nutella, and like
I would eat like two of those. Perfect. My mom would get the
huge French bread from Walmart and wedown cannon nutaeler. Most of the time,
we would just eat a new tailerlike you just go in. Yeah,
they soon go up to your room, you know. Now. Actually,
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in high school, I was labeledas overweight, so I had to
go see a nutritionist and it waskind of like there I kind of learned
a little bit about nutrition. Sofor me, it was like when I'm
at home because my parents are makingsuch amazing food, it's not quality of
the food, it's quantity of it. So like I have to be very
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cautious about what I eat piece Iwant to eat, Like I almost have
this mentality like I'm never gonna eatthis chicken again. I gotta eat five
pounds of it now or I'll neverhave it, you know. So I'm
like almost Yola with this food andI'm just eating all of it. So
it's like that quantity. I thinkquantity is my problem. Yeah, I
eat great quality of food, butI eat a lot. Like I love
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that feeling of fullness, like ofreally like it's almost comforting and it just
feels so satisfied when you're full.Yeah, but we're all kind of keep
eating even when I'm bored. Uhhuh, Yeah, I'm the same way.
Um, I don't know, it'slike, you know, they talk
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about what's the word for when you'reafter you eat and you just want to
pass out after that. Food coma, food coma like that is my goal
on the weekends. And I thinkmy problem is, like you were saying,
yours is quantity, but mine islike quantity and quality. Like if
I can't get into a habit ofthe prep meals and like eating once a
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week, I'm fine, but thatone moment, I go and get a
crispy cream doughnut, or go getsome wings from Buffalo Wild Wings, Like
downhill from there, just downhill fromthere. So I think, like I've
definitely learned a lot from going proabout what it is necessary for you,
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not only as a pro athlete,but as a healthy adult, the things
that are necessary for you to livea comfortable life without any like negative health
effects in the future. Yea,so um. One of the things you
talked about was like counting macros andmicros and like calories and stuff. And
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I don't even know what macros andmicros is. I don't even know if
micros are part of it. Ithink you just made that up. I
think, so macros, what macrosare. Your macros are your protein carbs
and facts. So you count thatand you want to get a certain amount
of proteins in a day, certainamount of carbs and facts in a day.
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Um, so you'll like it's it'slike counting calories, but not because
it's more specific. You know,with counting calories, you could have a
thousand calories of sugar and then justa little bit, So this is like
more specific, which I know thata lot of CrossFit athletes do, a
lot of athletes in general count macros, and I've heard it can be very
good because it it looks at morelike almost more of your diet and not
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just one facet but which isn't thecalories, So it could be interesting.
But the thought of counting like calories, accounting macros and like putting things into
an app and having to write itdown and weigh my food, it's just
like I can't I can't wait toweigh something. I need to shove it
in my pie hole. Yeah,you know, like that's just not me.
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Um. It's kind of interesting becausein our sport or like what we're
eating for is we're eating for function, not form. So do you feel
like your diet is going to changewhen you, you know, get out
of rugby. I think it'll haveto become more strict, you know,
because if you run so much,so a lot of those bad calories that
I do eat, it kind ofgets flushed away. And I don't think
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that will be the case once I'mdone playing rugby, So I'll definitely have
to slow down on the quote unquotecheap meals on the weekend. But hopefully
we'll see, you know, it'llbe like a trial in error. Sometimes
I think, like, yo,I gotta eat the doughnuts now because when
I get older, if I eata door and I'm gaining five pounds,
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so I need eat it now whenI'm gonna work it out. I do
like once we and rugby, it'llbe interesting to kind of see, like
how much less we have to eat, because right now we eat a lot
to perform. Could eat less,but we'd be skinnier and we probably wouldn't
be as powerful as we are asplayers. So I feel like, when
I start stop rugby, I'm gonnahave to like only eat a piece of
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toast in one egg for breakfast,and I'm gonna have to learn my new
diet again because my whole life,though I've been eating for sport, I've
been eating to fuel myself, andI've never really been eating for esthetics.
I guess it's nice because I'm stillyou know, hot as hell, come
on, But it's just I dowonder what it's like. Yeah, how
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do you how do you combat thosecravings of bread, butter burgers, sweets?
Like what is your I probably wouldsay I don't combat them. I
let it happen. Yeah, likewhen I crave gummies and I restrict myself
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and I don't let myself have gummies. When I when I was like,
Okay, now I can cheat andhave my gummies, I ate so many
gummies. When I said I couldn'teat bread. When I had my cheat
meal and I ate bread, Iate so much of it. Yeah,
So to combat cravings, I it'sthe quantity again, I have a little
bit of it. I started toI really wanted gummies for some reason,
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like earlier this year, and soI went and I bought myself a back
of gummies, and then each nightI would just have like not a couple,
but like you know, i'd havelike ten gummies, but but just
so like so that I'm not justcraving it because I have it, and
then you'll stop craving it, butdon't have massive amounts of weight to have
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it because your cravings will just continue, how about you. I usually just
try to keep it out of myhouse, so I know, like sweets,
like candy and fried food, Like, I just try to keep it
out of the house, so Iwon't buy sweets on us. It's fruit
or apple sauce or yogurt. Andthen one of my good friends, Chris,
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put me on the air fryer,so I got one of those to
combat always going out and getting friedfood. So that's kind of been my
assistance to staying discipline, because ifit's in the house, it's game over
it. So I just tried likenot to buy it because I do think
discipline is very important. Hey guys, we'll be right back after this commercial
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break. We're talking about just ourperspectives, you know. But there's so
there's so many ways that you canhandle cheat meals, how you can handle
sweets. Some people, you know, they might can once a month might
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be good for them, you know, And shit, I mean I wish
I could do once a month,yeah, because I could only imagine how
much more of my apps would showthrough, you know. But yeah,
and then some people you know,need a little dose every day, And
for me that changes every month.Some months, I need a dose every
day some months depending on if we'reon two a lot or not. I
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can go two weeks without some cheapmeals, maybe three, so it ranges.
For me. I need dark chocolatepretty much every day. My mom's
like that too, she really Ineed it. Like I love all foods,
and I wouldn't say I have asweet tooth, but some about dark
chocolate. Yeah, I'm just needit at night. And I love how
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the world is like dark chocolate's goodfor you, it's good for your heart.
You have a glass of wine aday, it's good for your heart.
I'm like, way, by,where are the facts on this?
Tell me? It's just it's sucha marketing scam with those two, because
it's like what research has shown youthat? Because was there a man who
just ate dark chocolate, red wineand his health was his heart was impeccable.
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It's just marketing, and like theypay these doctors because I know dark
chocolate probably has some okay stuff init, yeah, but I can't.
I don't eat a lot of it, but I do love some chocolate chips
yeah, And cubs listeners, ifyou got some research, send it our
way, because we'd love to havea reason to eat more dark choclate.
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Yes. No, If you yesa peer reviewed article, send it over
and I will eat more chocolate andwine. Okay, so we kind of
already talked about our typical breakfast,lunch, and dinner with having the protein,
the carbs, and the greens.But maybe we can go into a
little go in to more debt aboutwhat specific protein, carbs and fats we
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eat that we'd recommend to our listeners. Okay, I like to have personally
varied so for carbs, I meanrice, I don't do as much pasta.
I wish I did more pasta.I think pasta gets a bad rep
I think people think of it asthis carb heavy, it'll make you fat
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type thing. So I need toget that out of my head of it
being this bad thing because it's agreat carve. It can be a great
source of carbhydrates and energy. Ialso love bread. I am a big
toast person. Oh my goodness,Like I will toast up Mike's. I
think it's oh Dave's killer bread.And then I get like this sour dough
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bread from Trader Joe's, and I'llput butter on it because I love myself.
And then protein, I hate that. I just believe I need a
meat in every meal. I'm like, I need to have a chicken or
a beef. I eat every everymeat there is, beef, red meat,
fish, whatever. You don't eatfish, right, or do you?
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Um? I'll eat fried fish everynow and then, and sometimes I'll
eat tilapia, depends on how itlooks okay. And then for my fats,
I probably don't. I eat agood amount of fats. I'm gonna
eat a lot of dairy. Um. Sometimes I'll eat like chos and I'll
be like, I'm keto today becauseI'm eating all pork skin as pork rin.
So I'm like, well it's keto. Yeah. Um. If I'm
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trying to be like, oh healthy, you know proteins, I usually just
stick with chicken because I know that'sone of the more protein packed meats.
And I don't really I eat beefevery now and then, you know,
for a different taste carbs, asyou said, i'd recommend rice in any
form of baked potato or like sautepotatoes. I love that I'm in spaghetti
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too. I'm a big spaghetti fan, and fats. You get a lot
of that out of your yogurts.Protein as well, You'll get a lot
of protein and fats out of youryogurts and carbs, and also like avocado.
That's something that has been a newaddition to my diet since I moved
to California is learning that avocado isa healthy fat. So I try to
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include that in most of my meals. And then and another thing for carbs
is lots of fruit. Yeah,So if you're thinking, like, Okay,
what can I pick out of whenI'm planning a milk prep. You
can look at chicken, you canlook at beef, you can look at
baked potatoes, you can look atrice, you can look at avocado,
you can look at yogurts, andyou can look at a lot of fruits.
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And we can't forget the greens.Tons of greens. Very important.
Now, let's talk about eating ongame days, because I think that's a
big thing. At least for me, I'm not very hungry on game days.
How about you. I'm the same. In the morning, I'll have
a meal and at night I'll havea meal. But throughout the day,
I don't eat too much. Yeah, it's kind of which is like almost
usually I love to eat, buton game days it's almost forcing myself to
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eat. And you know, becauseyou know, you have to feel yourself.
But there's we have to we it'slike a you know, it's a
roller coast. We have to getup and then we have to get down.
If you get up and get itdown. So I don't really want
to eat because I want to staylighter. But our dietitian Jackie was amazing.
He's like, no, you gottaeat something. So for me in
the mornings before game days, I'lldo eggs and toast or something like that.
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Whatever the because it all changes upbecause depending on where we go and
how the food is a lot ofcoffee throughout the day. I'm a big
peanut butter person, how about you, Unless I'm eating a PBJ, I'm
not too heavy on the peanut butterin my diet. Yeah. So like
our teammateersh okay, well, ourteamakers will literally eat toad read peanut butter
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and banana like every day for gamedays or when we're on like that's her
thing. She knows, that's what'sgonna feel because I mean, that's a
great source. You have some proteinin there, you have carbs in there,
you have some fats in there withthe protein, so it's great.
Yeah, I'll eat them, butright before games, like you know,
before we head out the training,say like fifteen minutes before, I'll have
some pretzels or a carve like afast card my body can absorb. And
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then after games we always get theseprotein shakes that our strength and conditioning coach
makes us, and we eat those, drink those, and then immediately after
after we kind of, you knowa little bit have downtime. We're supposed
to go and eat, so weneed to go eat that protein. That
chicken. I'll have to get acarb and get a vegetable in and then
we do this. It's kind ofthe same thing. We then we eat
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that little car before before the game, and then after the game protein shake,
and they want to seat more.Yeah. I think mine's kind of
the same. In the morning,I'm having some eggs, some bacon,
some form of potato, and somefruit. Throughout the day, I'm snacking
on jerky. I like to eatthe energy gummies. I know they're not
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them. I treat them like they'resour coaking. And then after the game,
you know, I try to getin some spaghetti, Like I'm pretty
hungry by the end of the day. So some spaghetti, some chicken,
some greens, you know, getready for the next day. What about
your post game days or your likepost tournament meals? Um, I do,
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I will say, after you know, a tough tournament. Not that
I believe with cheat meals, butI don't mind getting some chicken nuggets from
where I you know, a Capetown. I devoured some chicken nuggets from
McDonald's. Hello, Nia, mywatch. I watch. Wanted to tell
you what I actually eat, butwell that's also a topic we get into,
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like do you drink? Are youasking me? Yeah? Oh yeah,
I drink. Yeah. I thinkNia and I are both the same.
I know that alcohol isn't it isn'tthe best, but we don't restrink,
restrict ourselves, and we're also verypractical about it and safe about it.
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Yeah, so I will have Ilove a good margarita, okay,
and it gives me an insane amountof joy to drink a margarita. Okay,
So we do drink, and Ido think that along with rugby,
there is such a social aspect ofit. So after tournaments I love to
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drink with the other teams and it'sit's the way we bring it all together.
What I found is the teammates whowho maybe don't drink after tournaments are
the ones up in their room notchatting to anybody. So I find it
is a great time to meet people. And I don't drink often, you
know, Nia and I don't drinka lot, but we drink responsibly,
drink smart, and we drink whenwhen we know it can be okay for
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our bodies. And I think that'ssomething I had to learn, like coming
from college where it was like turnup on Tuesday, Thursday, Friday,
Saturday. Yeah yeah, yeah,yeah, it's like and then it got
here and it was like, okay, turn up on Friday and Saturday.
And then it kind of like Iwas like, okay, you know,
maybe I slowed down a little bit, because if you think about it,
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alcohol is horrible for your body.When I got my whoop and I would
drink, it would it would bea very apparent that on the days that
I drank, my recovery was horrible. So I think that was my wake
up call of like, Okay,you gotta, you know, tone it
down a little bit. It doesactually have an effect on your health,
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and here it is right in yourface. So now me and Jazz and
Doyle were like, okay, westopped drinking from the beginning of this year
until after that first tournament after Spain, and then we had like a little
day We're like, okay, gonnahave a couple drinks together, and then
we took off drinking for the nexttime until after we get back from Dubai
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and it's like, okay, we'regonna have a little drink, you know.
So learning as you go and everything'sin moderation, and even even on
tour, like for me, likethat's one of the things I look forward
to, like, oh, Ican't wait to drink after the tournament with
all the other teams. And nowit's like I ain't drinking because I ain't
trying to get on that plane hurt. I've had tournaments where that plane ride
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home was rough and I learned mylesson. I'm like, I ain't got
it like at the war. Imean, it's part of the experience,
like I have. I've stayed upuntil the flight I'm like, all right,
well the flight, we gotta leavefor the flight at six am,
so I'm staying up. Yeah.Yeah, But I think for those tours,
like, if you drink, it'sgonna it's gonna be fun at the
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end of the tour for the tourparty. But if you don't, like
it could still be fun for you. You know, we have a lot
of players who don't drink, andthere's nothing wrong with that, you know,
like everything is your choice, whatevermakes you feel happy, you know,
and in moderation, you know.Yes, yeah. Another question I
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have is what our diets are likein season versus out of season. And
I just gave each other a looklike, oh so in season, okay,
okay, let me think. Letme think. So when I go
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home, I have trouble controlling whatI eat because I'm in a house with
amazing food and I'm not working outthree times a day. So it's kind
of interesting because I almost am eatingthe same amount, but I'm not working
out as much. So I thinkmy diets changed wherever I go. So
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when I go home, I'm eatinga lot of good food, and I'm
eating a lot of it. WhenI go on vacation, I'm probably maybe
not eating as much food, butI'm probably drinking more. Yeah, okay,
But when I'm like have a I'min the off season and I'm on
my own, you know, inmy own house, living by myself,
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then I can really control it.And I love that. I love being
able to control what I eat forbreakfast, lunch, and dinner because when
I'm home, I have to Myfamily loves family meals. Every day,
we have to do a family mealfor dinner, Like, you can't miss.
This is what we do. SoI it's I have to eat with
my family. But I do likehaving that control over what I eat.
I wanted to say something real quickbecause I remember us talking about eating at
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the table and how like that's athing for your family, and how it
was the same situation for a lotof the other girls on the team,
but for me, like we neverate at the table, like my dad
in the beginning, like you usedto try to make us seat at the
table, but eventually we never ateit. Able, you got your mail,
you win any room, you turnyour TV on. You're kind of
in your own little world. Sokind of sad that we kind of missed
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that on that but it was alsonice to watch what you wanted instead of
having to watch what your brother wantedto watch. Yeah, but in season
I'm I definitely am more consistent withhow often I eat and what I eat,
because when I go home, mymom will always make sure like I
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have a dinner, you know,but breakfast not waking up for that,
so I missed that meal. Andthen lunch it's like, damn, I
gotta cook, you know. Yeah, so I'm just like can I'll just
go get both j Angles or acook out. So that's kind of how
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those weeks ago is like I don'tfeel like cooking, so I'm just gonna
eat something that I know I won'tbe able to get once I go back
to the West Coast. And thenalso it's like the same thing with drinking,
where it's like I gotta get myparty all before I go back the
strict life of rugby. So it'sdefinitely different. And you know, as
we sat again, Cubs, thisis just me and Low. It ranges
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on our team for what that's like. So maybe we'll have to do a
part two of this and bring ona couple of guests to give you some
different perspectives on eating as a professionalathlete. So now we're going to answer
some cub questions. So, NYA, how is the food of the training
center and does it give you everythingyou need? For me, the food
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is pretty great. As long asyou got some chicken, some veggie,
and some carbs and some fruit,I'm good. They have like a great
variety. Lately, they've been doingchicken thighs, which I hate, so
I've been trying to figure my wayaround that, eating a lot of soup
because most of their soup will havechicken in it. But I think they
provide us everything we need and they'revery They cater to the needs of all
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the athletes, which I think isamazing and I'm very grateful for that.
So, you know, and it'sfree, so free food is always delicious.
Yeah, yeah, same for me. It's considering I eat pretty much
everything. I'm like, all right, yeah, she's great, it's free.
I get it. I purch alsoreally don't like the chicken tis,
but um, that's fine. We'revery grateful, Thank you Jesus for the
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chicken. Next question, we kindof touched on this a little bit,
but how difficultical is it to maintainyour diet? While on vacation or at
home vacation maybe becomes more of aliquid diet, as I said, but
I'm learning it's I mean what we'retwenty like, it'll always be a constant
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battle and a learning phase with FO. Yeah, you'll never figure it out
really to where you want it tobe because either you can be super super
restrictive or you maybe not. Andyeah, and that's kind of the point
of an off season, you know, is to get away from that discipline,
that all that organization and strictness andkind of just let go for a
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couple of weeks until you get backto it. So you know, it's
a balance for sure. Yeah,if you have a bad relationship with food,
how can you level up to proathlete eating for sport? Meal prep?
Okay, if the food is thereand all you gotta do is put
it in the microwave, you're morelikely to eat that than you are to
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go get something bad, you know. Yeah, And I think Nia talked
about it too that when she waseating less, she was like, I
don't have energy. So to bea pro athlete function versus form, you
need to have that energy to play. So it might take it. We
always believe it's probably all we gottabe more sugar, we gotta eat less.
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It might mean you're not eating enough. I would suggest talk to somebody,
maybe an nutrition dietitian. What Iwould do sometimes when I was in
a slump is there's like apps whereyou can take pictures of every meal.
So I don't like to count mycalories, but I'll take pictures and I'll
see what I ate for lunch.I'm like, Okay, I ate that
for lunch. Then then I'll eatthis for dinner, or I'll have this
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for a snack. So just toremember what you ate. It's trial and
air to figure out, trial andair to figure out what's best for your
body. As a pro athlete,our bodies are big. We need a
lot of food to function. Weplay a very intense sport. So it's
going to be learning. It's learningwhat your body needs. Yeah, that's
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what I would say too, Likeif you've guys been listening this whole time,
like, we started in a completelydifferent place than where we are right
now, and we'll probably be ina completely different place in the next five
years. So just create it asa growing moment. You know, you
can always recreate that relationship with foodfor yourself. As long as you remember
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that, you're in good hand.Yeah, that's so good. The next
question is do we see a dietitianand if so, how often. Yeah,
we have a great dietician for ourteam. Her name's Jackie. And
remember dieticians are higher up than nutritionist, so she knows so much. Yeah,
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we do body contest with her whereshe like pinches our skin and she
tells us this and that and so. What I love about her is that
she knows what our sport needs andshe's never trying to change I guess what
we're doing. She's trying to makeus better. So she's not like every
judgmental about what you eat. Likefor me, she knows I'm a big
girl. She knows I need toeat lots, and she's like, whoa,
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I love that you have this foodfreedom. Now I think you keep
doing it. I waited at oneidea, She's like, that's great.
We wanted to do one n seven. We agreed upon that. So I
love going to her just chatting.She's great with tips for us, like,
well, okay, what can Ieat for a snack? She loves
protein. She's coming to on atournament with and so sometimes I'll be like
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around my plate, like I'll bestressing out, thinking she's judge what I
mean. I'm like, oh yeah, I see her maybe like three times
a year. But one thing Ilove about our dietitian is how like open
minded she is to everybody's different healthneeds. Because for me, it was
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like, Okay, Jackie, Ineed to like moderate my fried food and
sweet intake, and I also needto moderate my alcohol intake. And one
of the things she told me thatI'll never forget, she's like, every
time you take a shot, youknow, take a shot of water because
you gotta stay hydrated if you're gonnaif you're gonna do it, I'm gonna
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tell you how to do it ina quote unquote healthy way. So I
love that about her. And she'salways available so as our needs change,
you know, we go to heras those needs change as well. Yeah.
Um. And then last question,what's a favorite go to a healthy
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mail for you? Do you havelike a restaurant you go to? No,
but I'll usually my goal to wouldprobably be a wedge salad, which
I don't think is healthy, butI love it is. The iceberg lettuce,
so it's just like water, okay, and then um some air fried
chicken and some brussels. Okay.I love like a bowl of massive amounts
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of salad um meat on it likea cava. I love that Mediterranean place.
I love poke a bowls, justanything that I think styleads can be
such a cool vehicle and bowls forlike so many different things and then they
just all come together, all right. So for our challenge, we'll challenge
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you guys to go and try somethingnew. Could be a new vegetable,
or could be a meal you've beenwanting to try. Give yourself that freedom
to go try that meal, allright. Don't think of it as a
cheat meal. Just think of itays okay for dinner. I'm gonna try
this burger place, try it out, see would see what it's like,
and don't give yourself that permission.Thanks cubs so much for tuning in to
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Here we go, hay cubs,and welcome to the Leo's den. My
name's Naia and I didn't know Brusselssprouts existed until three years ago. Okay,
haycups, I'm lone about my teammatescall me Low, and I have
this uncanny ability to just keep eating, just like I'll be full, but
(00:29):
I will keep pushing it down.And we are two leos who love to
hear themselves talk. So before weget into the topic for today, we're
gonna obviously start with our horoscope.So the horoscope is, don't expect to
hit the ground running today, Leo. You need more rest than you have
been able to attain over the weekend. The Moon cruises through sensitive cancer all
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day, but finds herself lacking initiativeand energy due to her lack of connections
with other planets. Ultimately, today'sskies call for restore of actions and peaceful
solitude. Let yourself take a beatbefore kicking things into higher gear. Low,
talk to me, what is thisgiving you? I mean, it's
just kind of perfect because it's anoff day, so I'm chilling, you
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know. I woke up at likeseven thirty. I had to get a
COVID test. But other than that, I'm chilling. I'm packing a little
bit. I had bacon and eggsthis morning. Yeah, I mean,
I guess the moon's cruising and I'mfeeling good. How about you. I
feel like it kind of started forme yesterday after I got back from training.
Normally, Normally, when I gethome, I'm like, Okay,
(01:34):
I need do this, this,this, I need to do this,
and my mind's kind of going crazy. But I got home and I was
just like moving in slow motion.I was like, I'm okay with this,
and kind of carrying that into today. So yeah, points, So
today we're gonna be talking about eatingas a pro athlete. And I mean
it's been wild, Like we've gota lot of questions for this topic more
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than our any other topics. LikeI guess people don't care about who we
date more anything else where. Theywant to know what we put in our
bodies. So I'm definitely excited tochat about this same. It's a very
interesting topic and people kind of knowwant to know, like what are these
girls eat to get to the prolevel? What are these girls eat to
stay at the pro level and performhow they do? Because we do have
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an exquisite body type, and ittakes a lot of nutrients to provide energy
to these lovely bodies. So todaywe're going to kind of get into that.
And the first thing we'll talk withyou guys about is what our current
diets are. So loo you wantto start them off with this one?
Yeah. So, I mean personally, I don't really follow a specific diet.
I think it'll be interesting in thispodcast because you and I are very
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were We eat a lot of things, we eat a lot different things.
We're not very restrictive eaters. SoI think people are going to call into
this and you're like, I eattwo eggs at this time, three eggs
here, and then I eat don'twant a chicken breast and spinage, whereas
I'm like, I had a burgeron Friday, yeah, and then I
ate chicken wings this day. SoI don't fall a specific diet. I
don't have any dietary restrictions. Idon't you know, I eat dairy,
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I eat gluten. I mean,I love cheese with all my heart.
I don't count any macros or anythinglike that, and I don't even count
calories. How about you. I'mkind of the same as you, as
you said, like, I mean, I eat what I need to feel
good but also to feel my body. I don't have any restrictions besides the
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fact that I'm very picky, solike I have the smallest palette you can
imagine, which is opposite of lowwho will eat anything anything. And my
friends are like that too, andI'm like, I just I don't have
it in me, Like anything thatdoesn't look edible to me. In my
head, it's nasty. It's nastyautomatically. So I mean I am kind
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of limited in that aspect. Butas long as you got some chicken,
some good veggies, and some carbs, like, I'm good there. Yeah.
Yeah. I recently went to atasting menu and you know tasting and
you like you eat whatever they giveyou. So, I mean, there's
a pigeon, moose and there wasa caveat and all this stuff, and
so Nia and other teammate jobs werelike, uh, what did you eat?
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And they're like, I want totry that, And I was like,
you guys, can't go to atasting man. You're not gonna eat
half the things they bring out.It's gonna be a waste of money.
I would never after you told meabout that, I would never go to
the tasting men you guys, Iwouldn't want to waste my money. But
Jazz was like, we have togo. You have to experience it.
And I'm like, I'm already tellingyou I'm not gonna like any of it,
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and like something like even you said, like, oh, like I
was surprised. You were like therewas a thing you didn't like. You
talked about how you did you thepigeon moose wasn't as tasteful as you expected.
And I'm like, obviously it's paulrice chip chicken or pigeon liver.
Yeah, but but we do,you know, I think even though we
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are very free with our diet,we do kind of stick to certain meals
specifically during the week. So talka little bit about what you're eating looks
like during the week and during trainingsessions. Yeah, So, I mean,
I eat whatever I want, you, but there are certain things that
I try to always eat constantly.Like so for breakfast, of course,
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always like a protein carb and maybea vegetable I'll try to get in there.
So on training days it'll be liketwo eggs toast, maybe some peppers
and onions and aby love havet baconwith it. I like having. I'll
have oatmeals some days with peanut butterand banana, and then I'll have usually
a snack in between. Sometime Imean to have two other eggs and some
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fruit or something or some chocolate mouth. And then for lunch. My lunch
and dinners are usually the same.I don't know about you. It's like
a protein, a carb, anda vegetable, so usually chicken, rice,
spinage or broccoli, whatever. Andthen after practice I'll have like um,
I can have peanut butter and pretzels, like a yogurt, beef jerky
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or something like that, and thenI'll come home I have my dinner.
And really recently I've been into smoothies, like making myself my smoothies and I
put like Greek yogurt in it,and I put, okay, here's my
problem though, I love sweetness,so me and sweeteners. I just am
shoving that agave and you're my smoothie, and I'm like, it's a goba.
It's good. It's not good.It's not any different than sugar,
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but I love it. So I'vebeen making these smoothies and they're delicious,
but I'm like, okay, well, well you're you're kind of tipping the
balance there, but it's your normaleating. Like every meal is a fruit,
a protein, a carp and agreen and lots of water. So
I'll have eggs, bacon, hashbrowns, and some oranges and a water
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bottle for breakfast. For lunch,I'll have rice, chicken, broccoli,
and cantloat. And then for dinner, I'll usually have brussels, rice,
chicken, oranges. Again, Ilove oranges. I'm all about vitamin C.
And then you know, it comesto snack time and I'm usually snacking
on some sunflower seeds, maybe ablueberry muffin, peanut butter crackers. That's
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usually how it looks during the week. And I'm a meal prepper because if
I didn't meal prep, i'd definitelybe ordering dinner every night. Yeah,
so let's get into that, becauseI don't ever meal prep. I don't
really like I don't actually like leftoras, but I eat them now,
but I don't actually like heating upfood that was from the day before or
whatever, so I never do it. So when did you get into meal
prepping or have you always done it? So you know at the training center
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they provide us food. So fora long time, when I was living
closer to the training center, Iwas just going there for all my meals.
But once I moved a little bitfurther away, I was like,
I don't want to make that drive, and I don't want to keep spending
so much money on food that Ishouldn't be eating in the first place.
So kind of during the quarantine,when the training sent it was shut down
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for food, I started mil preppingand I was cooking like four meals every
time that I would mil prep,so it lasts me about two days.
And now with mil prepping, itlasts me about four days since I'm only
eating the milk preps at dinner time. And it's kind of nice to come
home after training and just pop itin the microwave, knowing that it's food
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that I made, and that Iknow I'm gonna like the taste and what
exactly it is, and two minutesin the microwave, pull it out,
you know, sit on the couch, put on the office, and I'm
tearing that food up. There's afun fact about Nya too, she loves
the office. She can watch thatover and over again, Now, do
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you believe in cheat meals? Youalready know I do so, But like,
do you think like, oh,I have to eat healthy, healthy,
healthy, healthy, and then I'llget one meal. I think everybody's
version is different because I've heard thatversion it and I'm like, I can't
do that. Yeah, So Ithink it depends on the person because I
know, for me, I cheaton the weekends. If I could make
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it perfect to me, i'd onlyhave one cheatmail a week. Yeah.
Well right now I'm having about three, so I gotta cut that down.
I personally don't really like this ideaof cheat meals, that something that a
food you could eat is like onlyshould be special and like you shouldn't have
it all the time, or likeit's you're cheating something. Why am I
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cheating something by having a burger?Why am I cheating something by having a
donut sometime? Like, I personallydon't like to have those. Yes,
some meals I do go a littlebit. I have a burger, like,
but I never consider a cheatmail.I consider it my dinner. So
I kind of like to almost putthose meals into my normal diet because I
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don't I don't like the idea thatI have to prepare myself for this certain
things just feels like I'm then I'llfeel bad eating it. Yeah, because
I mean I have so a lotof our teammates are very different diets.
Enough, some of our teammates arevery restrictive, and we'll go, you
know, days and days without eatingany sugar and then they'll have that specific
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cheat meal that ice cream. Soit's very different. Like do you ever
think you should be more restrictive?I guess yeah. And I only say
that because the cheap meals I getare like, you know, you probably
shouldn't be eating a dozen doughnuts andfried chicken, Like twelve fried chicken means
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that's probably not gonna benefit our profession, you know, because everything comes down
to our body, our health,and how we can perform. So I
definitely like every week, I'm like, Okay, this week, I'm only
gonna have one cheap meal, youknow. And it's so weird that you
say burgers are cheap mail because Idon't see that as I don't see burgers
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as unhealthy because it's a meat,it's bread, and it's lettuce, I
guess cheese. I don't know you'dbe spriged. I think most people,
like even fitness people or anyone you'dask, would think of a juicy burger
as like a cheat meal and likewith s fries. But to me,
it's like, this is a greatmeal. My Casey and Kursh and I
have been doing. We have thisgroup chat called girls who Eat because they
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will eat anything, so it's kindof funny. I was talking to Nicole
about this. Nicole my best friend. You know, she's a very restrictive
eater sometimes and so I always hangauthor And one thing I love about her
is she's not judgmental with what Ieat. If anything, she's like,
you need to eat more because you'rea big girl. But I'll look at
her and I'll be like, you'reonly eating that. Yeah, so diciplined.
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So I'm like, wait, shouldI be eating this? But then
hanging out with like Kursh and Casey, I was like, oh wait a
minute, okay, so they're eatinglike I eat. It's it's kind of
nice to be around people who alsoeat like you because it shows you like,
okay, I'm okay, because itis hard, like do you ever
look around at the teammates and belike, oh, man, should I
be eating that or should I havemore greens? No, because I'm like
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I'm looking eat down. But I'mlooking at my body every day and I'm
like this fighty looks damn good.And then I'm going out and running fast
as hell, and I'm like,well, like, shoot, I'm whatever
I'm feeling with it is doing mepretty good. So you know, I've
never had to really like I justnever. I was never in a situation
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where I lived in the mirror andwas like, oh, dang, I'm
getting weight, I need to stopeating, or oh I'm slow, I
need to stop eating. Because evenin the fitness aspects, I've tried to
like eat super healthy and you know, and I didn't have any energy.
Yeah, so I'm like, okay, well, you know, I'm just
gonna go back to, you know, eating healthy during the week and enjoying
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myself on the weekends. And ifthat's benefiting me in a positive way in
the field, that's where we're at. Like I don't really look at other
people's plates because I'm too busy tearin mine up. Yeah, I think
that's so key. Like I thinkwe're so programmed to want that number on
the scale to be lower, andso I mean recently, I had a
conversation, you know, with ourdietitian, and I was like, oh
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man, well shy, I weighin at one ninety eight. Where I
want to play is one ninety seven, and I'm like, oh man,
though I'm at the way I wantto be, I'm like, should I
cut like I want that? I'mso programmed to want that number to be
lower. Yet at one ninety seven, I've played my best rugby and recently
that I feel like I have almostthis food freedom. I don't know when
I kind of got this way,but I feel like I can eat what
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I want and it feels so goodand so like I'm freeing to not feel
bad about what you put in yourbody, because as an athlete, as
a female athlete, it can bevery hard sometimes. Yeah, Like I
mean, the body image issues,it's so wow. Some of the people
on our team, how again,have the best bodies ever, but they
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have the some of the maybe tough, the strictest diets. This the worst
body image. Like It's it's aninteresting game to play with food and being
a pro athlete. Yeah, itshows you how much of a mental situation
it is Yeah, because as yousaid, you're looking at these girls with
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these beautiful bodies and so many differentranges and they all eat completely different,
completely different, And it's wild because, like I think I need to come
to terms with like, Lo,this is what you're gonna decide. You're
gonna be eat that amount because that'swhat your body needs. Someone even like
you know you or or Chatta who'smaybe a little bit smaller than me,
but she's not you know, notmuch like she might eat less than me,
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but that's what her body needs tofuel it. So that's why I'm
like, well, you know,I'm looking looking over so I'm a comparer.
You know, I'm so getting tothat level of you of being strong
in myself. I'm here to help. But you gotta think about also,
it's not all It doesn't have toalways be about the amount. It can
be about the quality. If you'reeating a big ass salad with a lot
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of chicken and a couple of crutons, you know, it's a big meal,
but it's has it's of good qualityfor your body. Yeah. Now
did your diet change like before andafter going prowl? Yeah? And I
kind of tried to act like itdidn't, but it definitely did. Because
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like running track and field, wewere eating McDonald's before our track needs and
this was like our coach like,all right, you know, let's go
to McDonald's. It's the only thingthat's open. And then for lunch,
you ate cafeteria food before you wentto to practice. We had hot cheetos
and candy and snickers like you know, we ate like kids. Like Yeah,
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I would go home after trainings.I would have three packs of gummy
snacks, a honey bun, twobags of chips, and then my mom's
dinner and then some more snacks,tons of juice. Yeah, I was.
I was in shape, I wasrunning fast. You know, I
looked I looked great. I feltgreat. And you know, that's your
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young body letting you, your youngstelf do what you want. And then
you start getting older, and likeI became, I went into a profession
that required me to really focus onthe performance of my body. And with
that that includes what you eat,your nutrition, and in the beginning,
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you know, I was still kindof eating whatever. I liked wings,
whenever I liked spaghetti and all thatgood stuff. And then you start learning
from the people around you like,oh I should eat spinach. I never
ate spinach growing up until I movedto California. Oh I should eat brussels.
Oh I should have more water thanone cup of day I was drinking
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nine percent apple juice or trap acannon juice and like yeah, and even
like if when I go back home, my family still operates like that,
yeah, you know, and I'mlike, do this, do that,
do this, do that, andthey're like, yeah, hey, you're
just doing this five years ago.Yeah. I feel like almost the same
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way. Like growing up, mymom and my dad are such amazing cooks,
but they cook everything homemade. Butit's like, you know, everything
was like whole, whole milk,butter and all these so it's like these
some like chef quality foods, butI ate a lot of it. My
parents would make fresh bread. Iremember coming home from basketball practice slicing myself
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a thick boy of that, puton some butter and nutella, and like
I would eat like two of those. Perfect. My mom would get the
huge French bread from Walmart and wedown cannon nutaeler. Most of the time,
we would just eat a new tailerlike you just go in. Yeah,
they soon go up to your room, you know. Now. Actually,
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in high school, I was labeledas overweight, so I had to
go see a nutritionist and it waskind of like there I kind of learned
a little bit about nutrition. Sofor me, it was like when I'm
at home because my parents are makingsuch amazing food, it's not quality of
the food, it's quantity of it. So like I have to be very
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cautious about what I eat piece Iwant to eat, Like I almost have
this mentality like I'm never gonna eatthis chicken again. I gotta eat five
pounds of it now or I'll neverhave it, you know. So I'm
like almost Yola with this food andI'm just eating all of it. So
it's like that quantity. I thinkquantity is my problem. Yeah, I
eat great quality of food, butI eat a lot. Like I love
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that feeling of fullness, like ofreally like it's almost comforting and it just
feels so satisfied when you're full.Yeah, but we're all kind of keep
eating even when I'm bored. Uhhuh, Yeah, I'm the same way.
Um, I don't know, it'slike, you know, they talk
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about what's the word for when you'reafter you eat and you just want to
pass out after that. Food coma, food coma like that is my goal
on the weekends. And I thinkmy problem is, like you were saying,
yours is quantity, but mine islike quantity and quality. Like if
I can't get into a habit ofthe prep meals and like eating once a
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week, I'm fine, but thatone moment, I go and get a
crispy cream doughnut, or go getsome wings from Buffalo Wild Wings, Like
downhill from there, just downhill fromthere. So I think, like I've
definitely learned a lot from going proabout what it is necessary for you,
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not only as a pro athlete,but as a healthy adult, the things
that are necessary for you to livea comfortable life without any like negative health
effects in the future. Yea,so um. One of the things you
talked about was like counting macros andmicros and like calories and stuff. And
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I don't even know what macros andmicros is. I don't even know if
micros are part of it. Ithink you just made that up. I
think, so macros, what macrosare. Your macros are your protein carbs
and facts. So you count thatand you want to get a certain amount
of proteins in a day, certainamount of carbs and facts in a day.
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Um, so you'll like it's it'slike counting calories, but not because
it's more specific. You know,with counting calories, you could have a
thousand calories of sugar and then justa little bit, So this is like
more specific, which I know thata lot of CrossFit athletes do, a
lot of athletes in general count macros, and I've heard it can be very
good because it it looks at morelike almost more of your diet and not
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just one facet but which isn't thecalories, So it could be interesting.
But the thought of counting like calories, accounting macros and like putting things into
an app and having to write itdown and weigh my food, it's just
like I can't I can't wait toweigh something. I need to shove it
in my pie hole. Yeah,you know, like that's just not me.
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Um. It's kind of interesting becausein our sport or like what we're
eating for is we're eating for function, not form. So do you feel
like your diet is going to changewhen you, you know, get out
of rugby. I think it'll haveto become more strict, you know,
because if you run so much,so a lot of those bad calories that
I do eat, it kind ofgets flushed away. And I don't think
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that will be the case once I'mdone playing rugby, So I'll definitely have
to slow down on the quote unquotecheap meals on the weekend. But hopefully
we'll see, you know, it'llbe like a trial in error. Sometimes
I think, like, yo,I gotta eat the doughnuts now because when
I get older, if I eata door and I'm gaining five pounds,
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so I need eat it now whenI'm gonna work it out. I do
like once we and rugby, it'llbe interesting to kind of see, like
how much less we have to eat, because right now we eat a lot
to perform. Could eat less,but we'd be skinnier and we probably wouldn't
be as powerful as we are asplayers. So I feel like, when
I start stop rugby, I'm gonnahave to like only eat a piece of
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toast in one egg for breakfast,and I'm gonna have to learn my new
diet again because my whole life,though I've been eating for sport, I've
been eating to fuel myself, andI've never really been eating for esthetics.
I guess it's nice because I'm stillyou know, hot as hell, come
on, But it's just I dowonder what it's like. Yeah, how
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do you how do you combat thosecravings of bread, butter burgers, sweets?
Like what is your I probably wouldsay I don't combat them. I
let it happen. Yeah, likewhen I crave gummies and I restrict myself
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and I don't let myself have gummies. When I when I was like,
Okay, now I can cheat andhave my gummies, I ate so many
gummies. When I said I couldn'teat bread. When I had my cheat
meal and I ate bread, Iate so much of it. Yeah,
So to combat cravings, I it'sthe quantity again, I have a little
bit of it. I started toI really wanted gummies for some reason,
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like earlier this year, and soI went and I bought myself a back
of gummies, and then each nightI would just have like not a couple,
but like you know, i'd havelike ten gummies, but but just
so like so that I'm not justcraving it because I have it, and
then you'll stop craving it, butdon't have massive amounts of weight to have
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it because your cravings will just continue, how about you. I usually just
try to keep it out of myhouse, so I know, like sweets,
like candy and fried food, Like, I just try to keep it
out of the house, so Iwon't buy sweets on us. It's fruit
or apple sauce or yogurt. Andthen one of my good friends, Chris,
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put me on the air fryer,so I got one of those to
combat always going out and getting friedfood. So that's kind of been my
assistance to staying discipline, because ifit's in the house, it's game over
it. So I just tried likenot to buy it because I do think
discipline is very important. Hey guys, we'll be right back after this commercial
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break. We're talking about just ourperspectives, you know. But there's so
there's so many ways that you canhandle cheat meals, how you can handle
sweets. Some people, you know, they might can once a month might
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be good for them, you know, And shit, I mean I wish
I could do once a month,yeah, because I could only imagine how
much more of my apps would showthrough, you know. But yeah,
and then some people you know,need a little dose every day, And
for me that changes every month.Some months, I need a dose every
day some months depending on if we'reon two a lot or not. I
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can go two weeks without some cheapmeals, maybe three, so it ranges.
For me. I need dark chocolatepretty much every day. My mom's
like that too, she really Ineed it. Like I love all foods,
and I wouldn't say I have asweet tooth, but some about dark
chocolate. Yeah, I'm just needit at night. And I love how
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the world is like dark chocolate's goodfor you, it's good for your heart.
You have a glass of wine aday, it's good for your heart.
I'm like, way, by,where are the facts on this?
Tell me? It's just it's sucha marketing scam with those two, because
it's like what research has shown youthat? Because was there a man who
just ate dark chocolate, red wineand his health was his heart was impeccable.
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It's just marketing, and like theypay these doctors because I know dark
chocolate probably has some okay stuff init, yeah, but I can't.
I don't eat a lot of it, but I do love some chocolate chips
yeah, And cubs listeners, ifyou got some research, send it our
way, because we'd love to havea reason to eat more dark choclate.
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Yes. No, If you yesa peer reviewed article, send it over
and I will eat more chocolate andwine. Okay, so we kind of
already talked about our typical breakfast,lunch, and dinner with having the protein,
the carbs, and the greens.But maybe we can go into a
little go in to more debt aboutwhat specific protein, carbs and fats we
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eat that we'd recommend to our listeners. Okay, I like to have personally
varied so for carbs, I meanrice, I don't do as much pasta.
I wish I did more pasta.I think pasta gets a bad rep
I think people think of it asthis carb heavy, it'll make you fat
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type thing. So I need toget that out of my head of it
being this bad thing because it's agreat carve. It can be a great
source of carbhydrates and energy. Ialso love bread. I am a big
toast person. Oh my goodness,Like I will toast up Mike's. I
think it's oh Dave's killer bread.And then I get like this sour dough
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bread from Trader Joe's, and I'llput butter on it because I love myself.
And then protein, I hate that. I just believe I need a
meat in every meal. I'm like, I need to have a chicken or
a beef. I eat every everymeat there is, beef, red meat,
fish, whatever. You don't eatfish, right, or do you?
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Um? I'll eat fried fish everynow and then, and sometimes I'll
eat tilapia, depends on how itlooks okay. And then for my fats,
I probably don't. I eat agood amount of fats. I'm gonna
eat a lot of dairy. Um. Sometimes I'll eat like chos and I'll
be like, I'm keto today becauseI'm eating all pork skin as pork rin.
So I'm like, well it's keto. Yeah. Um. If I'm
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trying to be like, oh healthy, you know proteins, I usually just
stick with chicken because I know that'sone of the more protein packed meats.
And I don't really I eat beefevery now and then, you know,
for a different taste carbs, asyou said, i'd recommend rice in any
form of baked potato or like sautepotatoes. I love that I'm in spaghetti
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too. I'm a big spaghetti fan, and fats. You get a lot
of that out of your yogurts.Protein as well, You'll get a lot
of protein and fats out of youryogurts and carbs, and also like avocado.
That's something that has been a newaddition to my diet since I moved
to California is learning that avocado isa healthy fat. So I try to
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include that in most of my meals. And then and another thing for carbs
is lots of fruit. Yeah,So if you're thinking, like, Okay,
what can I pick out of whenI'm planning a milk prep. You
can look at chicken, you canlook at beef, you can look at
baked potatoes, you can look atrice, you can look at avocado,
you can look at yogurts, andyou can look at a lot of fruits.
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And we can't forget the greens.Tons of greens. Very important.
Now, let's talk about eating ongame days, because I think that's a
big thing. At least for me, I'm not very hungry on game days.
How about you. I'm the same. In the morning, I'll have
a meal and at night I'll havea meal. But throughout the day,
I don't eat too much. Yeah, it's kind of which is like almost
usually I love to eat, buton game days it's almost forcing myself to
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eat. And you know, becauseyou know, you have to feel yourself.
But there's we have to we it'slike a you know, it's a
roller coast. We have to getup and then we have to get down.
If you get up and get itdown. So I don't really want
to eat because I want to staylighter. But our dietitian Jackie was amazing.
He's like, no, you gottaeat something. So for me in
the mornings before game days, I'lldo eggs and toast or something like that.
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Whatever the because it all changes upbecause depending on where we go and
how the food is a lot ofcoffee throughout the day. I'm a big
peanut butter person, how about you, Unless I'm eating a PBJ, I'm
not too heavy on the peanut butterin my diet. Yeah. So like
our teammateersh okay, well, ourteamakers will literally eat toad read peanut butter
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and banana like every day for gamedays or when we're on like that's her
thing. She knows, that's what'sgonna feel because I mean, that's a
great source. You have some proteinin there, you have carbs in there,
you have some fats in there withthe protein, so it's great.
Yeah, I'll eat them, butright before games, like you know,
before we head out the training,say like fifteen minutes before, I'll have
some pretzels or a carve like afast card my body can absorb. And
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then after games we always get theseprotein shakes that our strength and conditioning coach
makes us, and we eat those, drink those, and then immediately after
after we kind of, you knowa little bit have downtime. We're supposed
to go and eat, so weneed to go eat that protein. That
chicken. I'll have to get acarb and get a vegetable in and then
we do this. It's kind ofthe same thing. We then we eat
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that little car before before the game, and then after the game protein shake,
and they want to seat more.Yeah. I think mine's kind of
the same. In the morning,I'm having some eggs, some bacon,
some form of potato, and somefruit. Throughout the day, I'm snacking
on jerky. I like to eatthe energy gummies. I know they're not
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them. I treat them like they'resour coaking. And then after the game,
you know, I try to getin some spaghetti, Like I'm pretty
hungry by the end of the day. So some spaghetti, some chicken,
some greens, you know, getready for the next day. What about
your post game days or your likepost tournament meals? Um, I do,
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I will say, after you know, a tough tournament. Not that
I believe with cheat meals, butI don't mind getting some chicken nuggets from
where I you know, a Capetown. I devoured some chicken nuggets from
McDonald's. Hello, Nia, mywatch. I watch. Wanted to tell
you what I actually eat, butwell that's also a topic we get into,
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like do you drink? Are youasking me? Yeah? Oh yeah,
I drink. Yeah. I thinkNia and I are both the same.
I know that alcohol isn't it isn'tthe best, but we don't restrink,
restrict ourselves, and we're also verypractical about it and safe about it.
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Yeah, so I will have Ilove a good margarita, okay,
and it gives me an insane amountof joy to drink a margarita. Okay,
So we do drink, and Ido think that along with rugby,
there is such a social aspect ofit. So after tournaments I love to
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drink with the other teams and it'sit's the way we bring it all together.
What I found is the teammates whowho maybe don't drink after tournaments are
the ones up in their room notchatting to anybody. So I find it
is a great time to meet people. And I don't drink often, you
know, Nia and I don't drinka lot, but we drink responsibly,
drink smart, and we drink whenwhen we know it can be okay for
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our bodies. And I think that'ssomething I had to learn, like coming
from college where it was like turnup on Tuesday, Thursday, Friday,
Saturday. Yeah yeah, yeah,yeah, it's like and then it got
here and it was like, okay, turn up on Friday and Saturday.
And then it kind of like Iwas like, okay, you know,
maybe I slowed down a little bit, because if you think about it,
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alcohol is horrible for your body.When I got my whoop and I would
drink, it would it would bea very apparent that on the days that
I drank, my recovery was horrible. So I think that was my wake
up call of like, Okay,you gotta, you know, tone it
down a little bit. It doesactually have an effect on your health,
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and here it is right in yourface. So now me and Jazz and
Doyle were like, okay, westopped drinking from the beginning of this year
until after that first tournament after Spain, and then we had like a little
day We're like, okay, gonnahave a couple drinks together, and then
we took off drinking for the nexttime until after we get back from Dubai
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and it's like, okay, we'regonna have a little drink, you know.
So learning as you go and everything'sin moderation, and even even on
tour, like for me, likethat's one of the things I look forward
to, like, oh, Ican't wait to drink after the tournament with
all the other teams. And nowit's like I ain't drinking because I ain't
trying to get on that plane hurt. I've had tournaments where that plane ride
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home was rough and I learned mylesson. I'm like, I ain't got
it like at the war. Imean, it's part of the experience,
like I have. I've stayed upuntil the flight I'm like, all right,
well the flight, we gotta leavefor the flight at six am,
so I'm staying up. Yeah.Yeah, But I think for those tours,
like, if you drink, it'sgonna it's gonna be fun at the
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end of the tour for the tourparty. But if you don't, like
it could still be fun for you. You know, we have a lot
of players who don't drink, andthere's nothing wrong with that, you know,
like everything is your choice, whatevermakes you feel happy, you know,
and in moderation, you know.Yes, yeah. Another question I
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have is what our diets are likein season versus out of season. And
I just gave each other a looklike, oh so in season, okay,
okay, let me think. Letme think. So when I go
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home, I have trouble controlling whatI eat because I'm in a house with
amazing food and I'm not working outthree times a day. So it's kind
of interesting because I almost am eatingthe same amount, but I'm not working
out as much. So I thinkmy diets changed wherever I go. So
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when I go home, I'm eatinga lot of good food, and I'm
eating a lot of it. WhenI go on vacation, I'm probably maybe
not eating as much food, butI'm probably drinking more. Yeah, okay,
But when I'm like have a I'min the off season and I'm on
my own, you know, inmy own house, living by myself,
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then I can really control it.And I love that. I love being
able to control what I eat forbreakfast, lunch, and dinner because when
I'm home, I have to Myfamily loves family meals. Every day,
we have to do a family mealfor dinner, Like, you can't miss.
This is what we do. SoI it's I have to eat with
my family. But I do likehaving that control over what I eat.
I wanted to say something real quickbecause I remember us talking about eating at
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the table and how like that's athing for your family, and how it
was the same situation for a lotof the other girls on the team,
but for me, like we neverate at the table, like my dad
in the beginning, like you usedto try to make us seat at the
table, but eventually we never ateit. Able, you got your mail,
you win any room, you turnyour TV on. You're kind of
in your own little world. Sokind of sad that we kind of missed
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that on that but it was alsonice to watch what you wanted instead of
having to watch what your brother wantedto watch. Yeah, but in season
I'm I definitely am more consistent withhow often I eat and what I eat,
because when I go home, mymom will always make sure like I
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have a dinner, you know,but breakfast not waking up for that,
so I missed that meal. Andthen lunch it's like, damn, I
gotta cook, you know. Yeah, so I'm just like can I'll just
go get both j Angles or acook out. So that's kind of how
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those weeks ago is like I don'tfeel like cooking, so I'm just gonna
eat something that I know I won'tbe able to get once I go back
to the West Coast. And thenalso it's like the same thing with drinking,
where it's like I gotta get myparty all before I go back the
strict life of rugby. So it'sdefinitely different. And you know, as
we sat again, Cubs, thisis just me and Low. It ranges
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on our team for what that's like. So maybe we'll have to do a
part two of this and bring ona couple of guests to give you some
different perspectives on eating as a professionalathlete. So now we're going to answer
some cub questions. So, NYA, how is the food of the training
center and does it give you everythingyou need? For me, the food
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is pretty great. As long asyou got some chicken, some veggie,
and some carbs and some fruit,I'm good. They have like a great
variety. Lately, they've been doingchicken thighs, which I hate, so
I've been trying to figure my wayaround that, eating a lot of soup
because most of their soup will havechicken in it. But I think they
provide us everything we need and they'revery They cater to the needs of all
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the athletes, which I think isamazing and I'm very grateful for that.
So, you know, and it'sfree, so free food is always delicious.
Yeah, yeah, same for me. It's considering I eat pretty much
everything. I'm like, all right, yeah, she's great, it's free.
I get it. I purch alsoreally don't like the chicken tis,
but um, that's fine. We'revery grateful, Thank you Jesus for the
(40:25):
chicken. Next question, we kindof touched on this a little bit,
but how difficultical is it to maintainyour diet? While on vacation or at
home vacation maybe becomes more of aliquid diet, as I said, but
I'm learning it's I mean what we'retwenty like, it'll always be a constant
(40:51):
battle and a learning phase with FO. Yeah, you'll never figure it out
really to where you want it tobe because either you can be super super
restrictive or you maybe not. Andyeah, and that's kind of the point
of an off season, you know, is to get away from that discipline,
that all that organization and strictness andkind of just let go for a
(41:12):
couple of weeks until you get backto it. So you know, it's
a balance for sure. Yeah,if you have a bad relationship with food,
how can you level up to proathlete eating for sport? Meal prep?
Okay, if the food is thereand all you gotta do is put
it in the microwave, you're morelikely to eat that than you are to
(41:32):
go get something bad, you know. Yeah, And I think Nia talked
about it too that when she waseating less, she was like, I
don't have energy. So to bea pro athlete function versus form, you
need to have that energy to play. So it might take it. We
always believe it's probably all we gottabe more sugar, we gotta eat less.
(41:53):
It might mean you're not eating enough. I would suggest talk to somebody,
maybe an nutrition dietitian. What Iwould do sometimes when I was in
a slump is there's like apps whereyou can take pictures of every meal.
So I don't like to count mycalories, but I'll take pictures and I'll
see what I ate for lunch.I'm like, Okay, I ate that
for lunch. Then then I'll eatthis for dinner, or I'll have this
(42:15):
for a snack. So just toremember what you ate. It's trial and
air to figure out, trial andair to figure out what's best for your
body. As a pro athlete,our bodies are big. We need a
lot of food to function. Weplay a very intense sport. So it's
going to be learning. It's learningwhat your body needs. Yeah, that's
(42:37):
what I would say too, Likeif you've guys been listening this whole time,
like, we started in a completelydifferent place than where we are right
now, and we'll probably be ina completely different place in the next five
years. So just create it asa growing moment. You know, you
can always recreate that relationship with foodfor yourself. As long as you remember
(42:58):
that, you're in good hand.Yeah, that's so good. The next
question is do we see a dietitianand if so, how often. Yeah,
we have a great dietician for ourteam. Her name's Jackie. And
remember dieticians are higher up than nutritionist, so she knows so much. Yeah,
(43:19):
we do body contest with her whereshe like pinches our skin and she
tells us this and that and so. What I love about her is that
she knows what our sport needs andshe's never trying to change I guess what
we're doing. She's trying to makeus better. So she's not like every
judgmental about what you eat. Likefor me, she knows I'm a big
girl. She knows I need toeat lots, and she's like, whoa,
(43:40):
I love that you have this foodfreedom. Now I think you keep
doing it. I waited at oneidea, She's like, that's great.
We wanted to do one n seven. We agreed upon that. So I
love going to her just chatting.She's great with tips for us, like,
well, okay, what can Ieat for a snack? She loves
protein. She's coming to on atournament with and so sometimes I'll be like
(44:00):
around my plate, like I'll bestressing out, thinking she's judge what I
mean. I'm like, oh yeah, I see her maybe like three times
a year. But one thing Ilove about our dietitian is how like open
minded she is to everybody's different healthneeds. Because for me, it was
(44:22):
like, Okay, Jackie, Ineed to like moderate my fried food and
sweet intake, and I also needto moderate my alcohol intake. And one
of the things she told me thatI'll never forget, she's like, every
time you take a shot, youknow, take a shot of water because
you gotta stay hydrated if you're gonnaif you're gonna do it, I'm gonna
(44:42):
tell you how to do it ina quote unquote healthy way. So I
love that about her. And she'salways available so as our needs change,
you know, we go to heras those needs change as well. Yeah.
Um. And then last question,what's a favorite go to a healthy
(45:04):
mail for you? Do you havelike a restaurant you go to? No,
but I'll usually my goal to wouldprobably be a wedge salad, which
I don't think is healthy, butI love it is. The iceberg lettuce,
so it's just like water, okay, and then um some air fried
chicken and some brussels. Okay.I love like a bowl of massive amounts
(45:30):
of salad um meat on it likea cava. I love that Mediterranean place.
I love poke a bowls, justanything that I think styleads can be
such a cool vehicle and bowls forlike so many different things and then they
just all come together, all right. So for our challenge, we'll challenge
(45:52):
you guys to go and try somethingnew. Could be a new vegetable,
or could be a meal you've beenwanting to try. Give yourself that freedom
to go try that meal, allright. Don't think of it as a
cheat meal. Just think of itays okay for dinner. I'm gonna try
this burger place, try it out, see would see what it's like,
and don't give yourself that permission.Thanks cubs so much for tuning in to
(46:14):
this episode. Let us know ifyou want to part two and a little
more in depth with different perspectives.Make sure to check us out on all
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