March 14, 2025 • 34 mins
In this episode, I’m sharing my experience with IV NAD+ therapy, a wellness treatment that promises to revitalize your body and mind. As I embrace my 50s, I wanted to boost my energy and maintain a youthful vitality. NAD+ works on a cellular level to improve metabolism, reduce inflammation, and repair DNA—helping fight fatigue and boost overall wellness. Join me as I walk you through my experience at Moore Family Clinic in Spokane, WA. Was it worth the cost? Watch to find out!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi, everyone, I'm taking you outside the studio today. Is
I try something new. It's called nad ivy therapy. I
found a wall in this group here in Spokane that does.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
The IVY therapy.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
This therapy has been getting a lot of butts, So
come on, let's try it out. Oh good, I have
a thing today that's always a win. So afterwards, not during, okay,
I just look away, all right, big stick, But no,
not at all. It's like you've done this before. So
(00:39):
you was Matt right just a minute ago. He's the
one that did my ivy. So let's meet his wife,
Shanna Shanna Moore, a husband and wife team. So cool.
You've been in the medical field doing work well for years,
but now you've decided that you want to go kind
of primary care and holistic care, and you've opened the
clinic more clinic.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Right, we've both been in the medical field, I guess
each of us for over It's twenty twenty five right now, right,
so over twenty five years each. I started out as
a pharmacy technician, then went to nursing school, then nurse
practitioner school. I met Rick while we were working at
(01:19):
the hospital and working in the ICU and University Medical
Center in Lubbock, Texas, and he's been in the medical field.
He worked as a medic and then he also went
to nursing school and he's done quite a bit of
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different nursing work. He's done flight nursing, he's worked in
the er, and we've just decided together that we've done
We've done our time in the in the medical field,
and we want to take care of patients the way
that we want to the way that we would want
to be taken care of, the way we would want
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our family to be taken care of. Let's not just
address you know, cholesterol and high blood pressure. Let's let's
go further. Let's go further. Let's optimize your health and wellness.
And it's just a mutual decision, you know, making between
you know, us as the healthcare providers, with the knowledge
we have, with whatever knowledge the patient comes in with.
(02:23):
And I'm really big on mutual decision making. Let's discuss it.
You know, I will help guide you know what would
be appropriate safe, but let's come to a decision together
on how we can maintain your health and then go
beyond that and make your life the best help you
(02:47):
be well, you know, for the remainder of your life.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Okay, so we're talking about IVY therapy treatments today, which
have been around for a while, but I feel like
it's really kind of picking up some recognition because people
are looking at their overall health and really wanting to,
you know, dive into these different opportunities to feel better.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well. You are seeing a lot I'm sure a lot
of people are aware that you see a lot of
the IVY clinics popping up, you know, different places around town.
And there's a reason for that. You know, people are
realizing that having an IVY for various reasons makes them
feel better. You know, maybe they've had a strenuous marathon
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run and they need to have, you know, some IV hydration.
Maybe you had a difficult you know a night, you know,
you went out on the town and have a little hangover,
and you want to feel better. That's another reason. But
there's a lot of other things that can be done
even if you're feeling well or as well as you can.
There are vitamin IV hydration that you can give, you know,
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high dose vitamin C B twelve. There are different you know,
a variety of different cocktails. I guess is what you
could say, there's like a Myers cocktail is one of them.
Na D is one that we're It's very popular right.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Now, which is what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yes, yes, you're getting n AD right now and in
a D. We've known about it for a while. For
IV therapy, we've known about it itself as a molecule
for even longer. I would say, back in the early
nineteen hundreds is when they really started noticing it. Even
before that they noticed B three deficiency, which B three
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vitamin B three is nyacin poleegra was a disease that
was noted in the seventeen hundreds. But back to IV
and AD therapy or in AD therapy, they have used
that for a very long time, even as far as
the nineteen nineties. For alcohol and substance abuse therapy. Usually
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it's higher doses than what we're giving in the IV clinic,
but they have used that because the stress of substance
and alcohol abuse on the body really depletes multiple things
in the body, but especially in AD, so giving the
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NAD replenishes that to the cells but also helps the
body be able to more readily recover from the addiction
because it works in multiple places in the body. It's
not just about giving energy, but it's also about brain
health and what happens in the brain. We think about mood, depression, anxiety,
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things like that, and that's very important to being able
to get to the point where you can overcome addiction.
And so that's why they use that.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Interesting, Okay, So then it kind of became then a
little bit more mainstream as people were really starting to
pay attention to their health. And you're talking about cells,
and you've got I love this.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yes, this is a little plush of a cell, a
living cell of our body. It's got all the different parts.
If you remember high school biology, you know you've got
your nucleus, you've got your ribosomes. But right here is
the mitochondria, and that is basically where energy is produced
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in the cell. And that is where NAD is involved
in several processes. It's a co factor in enzyme and
it helps the body make ATP, which is energy.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So do we just slowly start to lose a lot
of this as we ate?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yes, yes, it does deplete over time. They're not one
hundred percent sure why, But as I mean, as anything
over time, things are going to decrease.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, let's get real. The aging process is kind of rude. So,
I mean, we do start to see things depleted. So
this is just one of the many things that we
can do right for our bodies.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Right, let's see one of the There's a lot of
things that it as you age and it decreases. There's
a lot of things that happen in the body. You
become well, you're producing less energy to become more fatigued.
It can also affect your mood, so mood, anxiety depression,
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which is.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Kind of a big thing. Yes, I feel like it's
even more prominent now, anxiety and depression and the stresses.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I would say, I didn't realize how prevalent anxiety depression
was in the community until I started practicing as a
nurse practitioner. Why do you think that is, Well, I
think it's multifactorial. I think it has to do with
the world that we live in. There's a lot of
things going on, a lot of things. We're exposed to
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a lot of stresses. You know, we have too often
have two family incomes. We have to meet certain expectations
and then you know, to be honest, everybody knows this.
Our American diet is not great, so we're not getting
the nutrients the way that we should.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
That was one of my biggest questions really, and so
you got right to it, which is great. It's our diets.
I mean, so much of our food is processed, and
there are so many different hormones and additives that are
added to things, and that throws off our bodies as
a whole.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I would think, yes, yes, you're talking about bioidentical hormones.
So we do offer bioidentical hormones. And that's different than
the hormones that you may think of when you go
to your doctor and you're going through menopause, or you've
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a woman's had a hysterectomy, or maybe a man is
looking into testosterone replacement therapy because he has less energy
and he's looking for you know, some you know, maybe
his testosterone is low. There are guidelines in the medical
community to help us determine if you need those things.
(09:35):
Oftentimes for women especially, the hormones are oral, which to
be honest, the receiving it outside of the mouth, meaning
like transdermally on the skin as a patch or as
a cream is actually better for the body. When you
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take estrogen orally, it does have to be processed through
the liver, which can increase certain clotting factors. There's other reasons,
but topical hormones are really the best way to go
that you're going to get better absorption and you're going
to have less of the side effects and adverse effects.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I do. I want to talk more about the
HRTs because honestly, it was the hormone replacement therapy that
got me started in really looking at my overall health
because I realized that something was off, something I did
not feel well. I wasn't running at full capacity. I
just felt like I was always at kind of running
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on a low level. And the second that we did
the blood work and did the hormone replacement and again
the cream and so I am a firm believer that,
you know, men and women need to have their hormones
checked and if they can get you know, on the
bioidentical hormones, it's a game changer. It really is a
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game changer. It is.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I mean, there's multiple symptoms that people come in with.
They feel fatigue, decrease libido, they're gaining weight, and they're
trying to exercise and eat right and.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Machine seems to work in your skin. It even affects
your skin.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Hair. A lot of people come in, my hair is
not growing the way that it used to. And you know,
we look at mainly estrogen, progesterone and testosterone and women, Yes,
women do need testosterone as they get older too. We're
not going to give anybody an amount of testosterone that's
going to make you mister or you know, universe or anything,
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you know, bodybuilder. We're looking.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I thought it was going to be a universe, but
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
We're gonna you know, we're going to give you, you know,
hormones that are going to boost those levels to an
optimal level, nothing beyond what you know your body needs,
but enough to where, well, you're going to feel better,
you're going to look better. But there's also other benefits.
There is a decrease risk of cancer, there is hair growth.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
So talk about that really quickly because I think oftentimes
that women are afraid to dive into, you know, the
hormone replacement therapy because they've heard otherwise that perhaps it
can be dangerous as far as cancer goes.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yes, well, if you look at the studies that were done,
they were looking at a specific population, they were looking
at a specific type of hormone. The bioidenticals were not
included that in those studies, so you can't really base
increase risk of cancer off you know, that information alone.
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There are other studies that are showing that taking the
hormones identical to how your body takes them, an estrogen
that's more like your body, not something that's completely different.
I'll give it the example of, you know, we don't
want to give a hormone that's more related to horse
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than a person. There are other estrogens that are more
like humans, and so that's more beneficial.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Which is so interesting to me because it really is
a whole thing. I had a hysteric to me when
I was twenty seven, so I was quite young, and
I was taking estradyle for a while, and then I
got nervous and so I stopped taking it all together
for years, and then continually just started feeling worse and
really sluggish the weight, gain my skin, the hair, everything.
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And then the second that I did the hormone replacement therapy,
I know it was like it'll probably take two weeks,
maybe a month before you feel a different I swear
it was the next day, and I don't know if
it was just one of those things where it was
just in my head and I just knew I was
getting what I needed and so I felt better. But
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I tell people, because they'll ask me all the time,
what do you do? What is it that you're doing?
And I go straight to HRT first, and then I
say yes, and I've also done, you know though, you know,
overall weight and I call weight therapy, you know, because honestly,
you come in, you talk, you get a plan for
what works best for your body, which I think is
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so cool. And then now with the IVY therapy, I
think it's just an overall thing. So that's what I do,
by the way, and HRTs are amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, yes, And there are some other benefits as well.
You know, I do want to talk about the fact
that it does. You know, we have estrogen receptors in
our brain, so if we don't have enough estrogen, then
of course our cognition is going to decrease and you're
going to have brain fog. Right. It also testosterone estrogen.
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They also help with you know, blood vessel health. So
along down the road that's going to help your cardiovascular health.
So it's actually beneficial if done properly.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So talk to me about who's not a good candidate
for HRTs.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's a good question. So someone who has had cancer before,
specifically if you've had I'll give the example of my mother.
She has had breast cancer that's estrogen receptor positive and
progesterone receptive positive, and she would not be a good
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candidate for that because there's the potential that if I
provided those hormones to her, then we would you know,
feed any kind of cancer cells that might still be there.
But that's always a discussion to individualize and look at
that specific situation and to discuss what the healthcare provider.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I was gonna say, that's really important to know. Also,
why do you think it is? That's it's kind of
one of those things and I want to use the
word taboo, and that's probably not the right word, but
it's a primary caregiver is less apt to help you
out with hormone replacement therapy.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Well, they're scared and sometimes you know, we have so
much to think about, so much to do during the day,
and have to jump from patient to patient. There's by
the time you're done with the day. It's hard to
go in and research, you know, other things. You know,
it's not necessarily that we're taught that in school. We're
taught a little bit, but we're not taught the full
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gamut of it. And so, you know, and as providers,
we always do continuing education. There's always an opportunity to
do that. But a lot of people are afraid, or
they don't understand, or they just haven't reached that education
level yet.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
What got you interested?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
What got me interested? My husband started talking to me
about testosterone replacement therapy, and of course I was one
of those primary care providers. I'm like, oh no, no,
you can't do that. That's not healthy, you know. And
then I started researching it some more. Of course, he
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researches things immensely and provides me studies. That's what I
love about him. And then I started working in a
clinic that did that, and I started seeing such positive
results in people, so much more positive than I had
seen with the oral estradial and you know, things like that,
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and we're really optimizing the wellness of someone. You know,
a man can have a normal testosterone level of three
hundred or four hundred. But maybe they're in their forties
and they feel really tired and they don't want to
you know, they've got this belly, they don't want to
go exercise. You give them a dose of you know,
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starting you know, milligram strength of testosterone, and maybe they
bump up to you know, nine hundred, still within the
normal range. We've just optimized it, and so they start
feeling better, they start wanting to go exercise, they have
more energy, and they're able to think more clearly.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You know, we think about hormones as being mainly a
female issue, but it's not. It's men and women. And
again we both lose that as we ate.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yes, yes, everything decreases as we age, including.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So what am I gonna What am I going to
feel after this IVY treatment, the NAD treatment.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
You should feel more clarity of mind, you should have
more energy. It is of course recommended when you're doing
IV therapy to do a series over a week or
two of several infusions, and then from there you can
do more of a maintenance like once a month type
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of infusions, just to keep that maintained.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So you're saying, when you first start out with IV therapy,
doing more than one within a two week period, because.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
We've got to catch you up. We've got to catch
you to what you've lost.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So what kind of a regimen would you say, so
we're doing the NADA, would you just continue with the
NAD or would you add in you said, the Meyers
cocktail or.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It just really depends on your needs, you know, as
a person, if you if you admit, you know, hey,
I don't have a great diet. Although I will say,
you know, people get tired of being told you've got
to eat. Well, I can't tell you how important that is.
You know, as you research in ad you're like, oh, wow, really,
what I put in my mouth really, you know, influences.
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But you were asking what kinds of things you can have.
If somebody says, you know, I don't get this vitamin
very well in my diet, then maybe we might add
that in. Certain it just depends on the symptoms I have.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And this is a little bit off the topic of IVY.
But I was watching, Yeah, I was watching a little
clip and it was talking. It was promoting that women
are seeing more women are seeing the effects of menopause
at a much earlier age than say, ten years ago.
And I would also add to that that girls are
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going through puberty much younger than say, ten years ago.
Do you think that is because partly of the additives
and the hormonesit are and foods.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, the foods that we get are often full of preservatives,
have been exposed to certain things when they're grown, you know,
out on the farm. So really going for a more
organic foods is important. You really need to see the
sources of where your foods are coming from. But also
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what's important is preparing the food at home if possible.
I know, you know, when you're both parents are working
jobs and multiple kids going to school and then activities,
it's really hard. It's really hard at our house to
maintain preparing foods at home. But if you can prepare
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from freshole foods at home, that's one of the best
things that you can do.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So going scratch, yeah, I mean, that is really the
best way to eat anymore, right, especially if you're wanting
to kind of streamline you know, where your family's headed
health wise.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, And I will say firsthand it is difficult with
a busy lifestyle, but we have to do the best
that we can.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, I mean, it is so much easier to grab
a box of macarnie and cheese and cheetos. There's a
thing there. I don't eat like that anymore, but there
might have been a time when when my kids were little.
You know, you go for the easy things, the hot
dogs because they like them, the macaroni and cheese because
it's easy and they like it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, and I would say, do the best that you can,
because kids can be picky eaters. Oftentimes their body will
direct them to what they need. But I also have
to say, give yourself some grace. And I tell that
to myself too. I've got to give myself some grace.
Sometimes we do the best that we can.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It's so true. What would you tell parents of girls
that are getting close to puberty age?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Well, that's a good question. As a mother, you know,
I also have to think about that. I would say,
you know, honestly, look just like everybody else, look at
the whole picture. You know, our lives are not going
to be perfect, and don't stress yourself out about making
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the perfect life for your children. Just do the best
that you can. Sleep is important. It's important for everybody
getting adequate sleep. So having that bedtime as close as
you can to getting the hours that are recommended for
their age. Hydration is important. Not enough of us drink
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enough water.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
How much is enough water?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Oh, good question. So general rule of thumb is sixty
four to one hundred ounces of water a day. But
if you want to get really specific, and this is
more for adults or teenagers, if you take your weight
and in pounds and converted to kilograms, which you would
divide your weight by two point two, that's about how
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many ounces you should get in a day and it
usually will fall within that sixty four to one hundred
ounces a day. So we've talked about sleep, hydration, nutrition.
You know, you just have to look at every part
of what a human is. You know, we have to
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look at sitting down as a family, if we can
to have a meal together. All of us have phones.
We struggle with phones at our house, but we have
to limit ourselves with screen time. Getting enough exercise. Exercise
in itself increases in eight production. But exercise is so important.
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It helps release so many other neurotransmitters like dopamine serotonin,
which does make you feel better. As you're able to
build stamina, you're able to do other things and participate
in other fun things, and exercise can be fun. I'm
one of those that I don't like to exercise. To exercise,
I don't I have to be doing something productive or fun.
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The one thing that I do is that is exercise.
To exercise is my Peloton bike. But I'm mean motivated.
I've got the person on there talking, I've got the
people on the leader board, I've got the music. Do
I like it or not like it?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
You know? Yeah? I always tell people find something that
you love to do if you're going to work out,
because otherwise, why do it right You're not motivated.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
No, it's much harder to do that. And then I
also like to play volleyball. Volleyball is a big thing
in our family, and so I'm actually going to start
playing in an adult volleyball so co Ed that's awesome. Yeah,
so I'm excited. I can't move like I used to,
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but I feel I've gone so many years not doing it,
and I started doing it again because of my daughter,
and I was like, oh my gosh, I did I
forgot that this was my happy place. Yeah, so find
your happy place and do that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
That's so important. Yeah, it really is. Okay, what do
you tell women who are then approaching menopause, because it
can be kind of scary.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Focus on you know, don't forget about yourself. A lot
of times around that age we're still very very focused
on our family, our children, our partners, our jobs, everything
that we forget about ourselves. And not to say that
you should be selfish, but you should. You need to.
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You need to treat yourself well in order for you
to be able to then give back to what else
is important in your life. So making those small choices
of eating well, whatever you put in your body, you're
doing to yourself. So give yourself something good, give yourself
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something of substance that's going to increase you're nad.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah. So, and do you recommend that they, as they're
going through menopause, that they do talk about the HRTs.
If they start that transition, then will that help them
with night sweats? So I bypassed all that, but that hysterectomy,
So with that, if they were to go to HRTs
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with that help with the night sweat.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It's a good question because menopause is not something that
happens overnight. It's not something that happens in a year.
You know, the clinical criteria for a menopause for women
who haven't had, you know, a hysterectomy or some kind
of surgery is the absence of minci's for a year six.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Months to a year.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
But the symptoms start way before then. Night sweats, maybe
increased anxiety, changes in sleep, being able to go to sleep, hair,
skin changes. And you know, if a woman it still
has her minstrel cycle, but she's having these symptoms, she
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still can have progesterone that can help her with sleep
and anxiety because her likely her progesterone level is decreasing.
So it's okay to get started before.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And why do you think women are starting to go
through menopause a little bit earlier?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Well, I just think I mean it's stress. There's so
much stress. And I'm not just talking about that's interesting, Yeah,
I'm not talking about just like what we normally think
of as stress. Ye, I mean, there is that has increased,
I believe, you know, over time, over the decades. But
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it's also our nutrition is not the way that it
used to be, even you know, thirty forty years ago.
We are on our phones a lot, watch TV a lot,
We have a lot of you know, I always give
the example of when people are wondering why do I
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gain weight? Why do I have all this weight? And
I'm like, okay, look, one hundred years ago, what were
your ancestors doing.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
They were not sitting and watching television.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, no, and they weren't doing They weren't doing a
desk job either, right. They were working. They were hunting food,
they were working on the farm, they were doing some
kind of labor. So they were always active. So it
was much harder to gain weight that way. So we
have to remember that. That's why we have to add
in exercise. That's why we have to add in those things,
because our bodies have not adjusted over time. There's been
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no you know, if you want to call it evolutionary changes,
it hasn't happened over one hundred years. So we have
to provide that to ourselves.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Interesting. Yeah, I just think taking care of yourself overall,
and I think giving yourself permission because there's always, from
what I've in my own life, so many different voices,
people telling you what's right, what's wrong, what you should do,
what you shouldn't do, and I you know, is you know,
don't It's almost like people want to make it feel
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bad for taking care of yourself or for wanting to
look good or feel good. And it's that's so interesting
to me because it's available to everybody and it's up
to you to choose whether or not that's for you.
And if it's not, then that's fine, that's okay. But
if you do want to feel better and you do
want to take those steps to you know, get up
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off the couch, which is a hard one to do.
It is it's hard to start. Yeah, it is hard
to start, but once you start, you just feel so
much better. And I think just I really want people
to know that it's okay to give yourself permission to
get up and get started. And there are so many
things available now, which is fantastic, So take advantage of
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them and at least start to research them.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yes, yes, and talk to a healthcare provider, you know,
ask those questions, ask what, ask about the studies. There's
tons of podcasts out there that you can, you know,
listen to yes and research the information.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, so listen up. We've had some great information today.
It's funny because as we're talking, I just felt I
turned my head and I turned back and I was like, oh,
I just got a little woozy. Oh that funny. Yeah,
so yeah, there's a little woozy that goes on. Okay
with that, okay, yeah, it's not too bad, not too bad.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Any nausea, No, not nausea.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I would say I got hot for a second, okay,
and maybe a little shaky okay. Yeah, So that means
it's working. That's what I always think, Like, if you
can feel it, I'm like, yeah, that's working. That's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
There you go, slow it down a little bit. A
lot of people have described the NAD infusion as when
you go up on the higher doses, like we're doing
two hundred and fifty milligrams with the highest dose a thousand, Okay, okay,
so two fifty five hundred, one thousand. People will describe
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it as being uncomfortable. They will describe themselves as being nauseous, dizzy,
pressure on their chest, you know, all those things. But
also a little bit irritable. They will describe of them
is like they don't want to hear anybody else talking.
They're really irritable. But then when that's done and later
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they feel so much better. It's completely worth it.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
So interesting, Well, haven't felt irritable. Yet I don't want
to hear you talk. I don't belie. I have so
many questions for you because I do just think this
whole health boom is such a great thing. And I
want to say I think body positivity is a great thing,
but I think it's a great thing when you use it,
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meaning you want to take care of your body's well. Yes,
I was just going to say that we only get
one shot at this life, and you know, we all
go through the times where we trash our bodies and
we do all the bad things. And I'll call it
your twenties, right, or there's you know, your child bearing years,
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and your body goes through so many different things that
when you have that opportunity, it's like a gift that
you give to yourself to really step in and investigate
everything that's available so that you can feel the best
that you can, right, but the years that you.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Have, right, And I think that's important for us to
remind ourselves so that oftentimes, I really do think most
people give to others and they don't give enough to themselves.
They give, like I said, to their family, to their friends,
to their partners, their parents. You know, sometimes you have
to take care of your parents. Give, give, give, and
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you need in order to give more, which often people
want to be able to give more, you have to
be able to take care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
It's true, because if you haven't taken care of yourself,
what do they say, Your cup's empty? So you really
don't have anything else to give to anybody else, right, Yeah, Yeah,
this has been great, Shanna, thank you so much. There
is so much information out there, and I'm really excited
for everybody to hear it. Right now though, I think
because I've got the iv I've got a little bit
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of time left. You put me in this comfy chair
with this comfy blanket. I'm gonna hit the button here
and I'm just going to kick back and relax for
a while and enjoyed the IVY treatment. So I'll see
you in a button loyal
Hi, everyone, I'm taking you outside the studio today. Is
I try something new. It's called nad ivy therapy. I
found a wall in this group here in Spokane that does.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
The IVY therapy.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
This therapy has been getting a lot of butts, So
come on, let's try it out. Oh good, I have
a thing today that's always a win. So afterwards, not during, okay,
I just look away, all right, big stick, But no,
not at all. It's like you've done this before. So
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you was Matt right just a minute ago. He's the
one that did my ivy. So let's meet his wife,
Shanna Shanna Moore, a husband and wife team. So cool.
You've been in the medical field doing work well for years,
but now you've decided that you want to go kind
of primary care and holistic care, and you've opened the
clinic more clinic.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Right, we've both been in the medical field, I guess
each of us for over It's twenty twenty five right now, right,
so over twenty five years each. I started out as
a pharmacy technician, then went to nursing school, then nurse
practitioner school. I met Rick while we were working at
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the hospital and working in the ICU and University Medical
Center in Lubbock, Texas, and he's been in the medical field.
He worked as a medic and then he also went
to nursing school and he's done quite a bit of
(01:39):
different nursing work. He's done flight nursing, he's worked in
the er, and we've just decided together that we've done
We've done our time in the in the medical field,
and we want to take care of patients the way
that we want to the way that we would want
to be taken care of, the way we would want
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our family to be taken care of. Let's not just
address you know, cholesterol and high blood pressure. Let's let's
go further. Let's go further. Let's optimize your health and wellness.
And it's just a mutual decision, you know, making between
you know, us as the healthcare providers, with the knowledge
we have, with whatever knowledge the patient comes in with.
(02:23):
And I'm really big on mutual decision making. Let's discuss it.
You know, I will help guide you know what would
be appropriate safe, but let's come to a decision together
on how we can maintain your health and then go
beyond that and make your life the best help you
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be well, you know, for the remainder of your life.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Okay, so we're talking about IVY therapy treatments today, which
have been around for a while, but I feel like
it's really kind of picking up some recognition because people
are looking at their overall health and really wanting to,
you know, dive into these different opportunities to feel better.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well. You are seeing a lot I'm sure a lot
of people are aware that you see a lot of
the IVY clinics popping up, you know, different places around town.
And there's a reason for that. You know, people are
realizing that having an IVY for various reasons makes them
feel better. You know, maybe they've had a strenuous marathon
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run and they need to have, you know, some IV hydration.
Maybe you had a difficult you know a night, you know,
you went out on the town and have a little hangover,
and you want to feel better. That's another reason. But
there's a lot of other things that can be done
even if you're feeling well or as well as you can.
There are vitamin IV hydration that you can give, you know,
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high dose vitamin C B twelve. There are different you know,
a variety of different cocktails. I guess is what you
could say, there's like a Myers cocktail is one of them.
Na D is one that we're It's very popular right.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Now, which is what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yes, yes, you're getting n AD right now and in
a D. We've known about it for a while. For
IV therapy, we've known about it itself as a molecule
for even longer. I would say, back in the early
nineteen hundreds is when they really started noticing it. Even
before that they noticed B three deficiency, which B three
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vitamin B three is nyacin poleegra was a disease that
was noted in the seventeen hundreds. But back to IV
and AD therapy or in AD therapy, they have used
that for a very long time, even as far as
the nineteen nineties. For alcohol and substance abuse therapy. Usually
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it's higher doses than what we're giving in the IV clinic,
but they have used that because the stress of substance
and alcohol abuse on the body really depletes multiple things
in the body, but especially in AD, so giving the
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NAD replenishes that to the cells but also helps the
body be able to more readily recover from the addiction
because it works in multiple places in the body. It's
not just about giving energy, but it's also about brain
health and what happens in the brain. We think about mood, depression, anxiety,
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things like that, and that's very important to being able
to get to the point where you can overcome addiction.
And so that's why they use that.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Interesting, Okay, So then it kind of became then a
little bit more mainstream as people were really starting to
pay attention to their health. And you're talking about cells,
and you've got I love this.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yes, this is a little plush of a cell, a
living cell of our body. It's got all the different parts.
If you remember high school biology, you know you've got
your nucleus, you've got your ribosomes. But right here is
the mitochondria, and that is basically where energy is produced
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in the cell. And that is where NAD is involved
in several processes. It's a co factor in enzyme and
it helps the body make ATP, which is energy.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So do we just slowly start to lose a lot
of this as we ate?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yes, yes, it does deplete over time. They're not one
hundred percent sure why, But as I mean, as anything
over time, things are going to decrease.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, let's get real. The aging process is kind of rude. So,
I mean, we do start to see things depleted. So
this is just one of the many things that we
can do right for our bodies.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Right, let's see one of the There's a lot of
things that it as you age and it decreases. There's
a lot of things that happen in the body. You
become well, you're producing less energy to become more fatigued.
It can also affect your mood, so mood, anxiety depression,
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which is.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Kind of a big thing. Yes, I feel like it's
even more prominent now, anxiety and depression and the stresses.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I would say, I didn't realize how prevalent anxiety depression
was in the community until I started practicing as a
nurse practitioner. Why do you think that is, Well, I
think it's multifactorial. I think it has to do with
the world that we live in. There's a lot of
things going on, a lot of things. We're exposed to
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a lot of stresses. You know, we have too often
have two family incomes. We have to meet certain expectations
and then you know, to be honest, everybody knows this.
Our American diet is not great, so we're not getting
the nutrients the way that we should.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
That was one of my biggest questions really, and so
you got right to it, which is great. It's our diets.
I mean, so much of our food is processed, and
there are so many different hormones and additives that are
added to things, and that throws off our bodies as
a whole.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I would think, yes, yes, you're talking about bioidentical hormones.
So we do offer bioidentical hormones. And that's different than
the hormones that you may think of when you go
to your doctor and you're going through menopause, or you've
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a woman's had a hysterectomy, or maybe a man is
looking into testosterone replacement therapy because he has less energy
and he's looking for you know, some you know, maybe
his testosterone is low. There are guidelines in the medical
community to help us determine if you need those things.
(09:35):
Oftentimes for women especially, the hormones are oral, which to
be honest, the receiving it outside of the mouth, meaning
like transdermally on the skin as a patch or as
a cream is actually better for the body. When you
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take estrogen orally, it does have to be processed through
the liver, which can increase certain clotting factors. There's other reasons,
but topical hormones are really the best way to go
that you're going to get better absorption and you're going
to have less of the side effects and adverse effects.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I do. I want to talk more about the
HRTs because honestly, it was the hormone replacement therapy that
got me started in really looking at my overall health
because I realized that something was off, something I did
not feel well. I wasn't running at full capacity. I
just felt like I was always at kind of running
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on a low level. And the second that we did
the blood work and did the hormone replacement and again
the cream and so I am a firm believer that,
you know, men and women need to have their hormones
checked and if they can get you know, on the
bioidentical hormones, it's a game changer. It really is a
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game changer. It is.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I mean, there's multiple symptoms that people come in with.
They feel fatigue, decrease libido, they're gaining weight, and they're
trying to exercise and eat right and.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Machine seems to work in your skin. It even affects
your skin.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Hair. A lot of people come in, my hair is
not growing the way that it used to. And you know,
we look at mainly estrogen, progesterone and testosterone and women, Yes,
women do need testosterone as they get older too. We're
not going to give anybody an amount of testosterone that's
going to make you mister or you know, universe or anything,
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you know, bodybuilder. We're looking.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I thought it was going to be a universe, but
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
We're gonna you know, we're going to give you, you know,
hormones that are going to boost those levels to an
optimal level, nothing beyond what you know your body needs,
but enough to where, well, you're going to feel better,
you're going to look better. But there's also other benefits.
There is a decrease risk of cancer, there is hair growth.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
So talk about that really quickly because I think oftentimes
that women are afraid to dive into, you know, the
hormone replacement therapy because they've heard otherwise that perhaps it
can be dangerous as far as cancer goes.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yes, well, if you look at the studies that were done,
they were looking at a specific population, they were looking
at a specific type of hormone. The bioidenticals were not
included that in those studies, so you can't really base
increase risk of cancer off you know, that information alone.
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There are other studies that are showing that taking the
hormones identical to how your body takes them, an estrogen
that's more like your body, not something that's completely different.
I'll give it the example of, you know, we don't
want to give a hormone that's more related to horse
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than a person. There are other estrogens that are more
like humans, and so that's more beneficial.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Which is so interesting to me because it really is
a whole thing. I had a hysteric to me when
I was twenty seven, so I was quite young, and
I was taking estradyle for a while, and then I
got nervous and so I stopped taking it all together
for years, and then continually just started feeling worse and
really sluggish the weight, gain my skin, the hair, everything.
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And then the second that I did the hormone replacement therapy,
I know it was like it'll probably take two weeks,
maybe a month before you feel a different I swear
it was the next day, and I don't know if
it was just one of those things where it was
just in my head and I just knew I was
getting what I needed and so I felt better. But
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I tell people, because they'll ask me all the time,
what do you do? What is it that you're doing?
And I go straight to HRT first, and then I
say yes, and I've also done, you know though, you know,
overall weight and I call weight therapy, you know, because honestly,
you come in, you talk, you get a plan for
what works best for your body, which I think is
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so cool. And then now with the IVY therapy, I
think it's just an overall thing. So that's what I do,
by the way, and HRTs are amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, yes, And there are some other benefits as well.
You know, I do want to talk about the fact
that it does. You know, we have estrogen receptors in
our brain, so if we don't have enough estrogen, then
of course our cognition is going to decrease and you're
going to have brain fog. Right. It also testosterone estrogen.
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They also help with you know, blood vessel health. So
along down the road that's going to help your cardiovascular health.
So it's actually beneficial if done properly.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So talk to me about who's not a good candidate
for HRTs.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's a good question. So someone who has had cancer before,
specifically if you've had I'll give the example of my mother.
She has had breast cancer that's estrogen receptor positive and
progesterone receptive positive, and she would not be a good
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candidate for that because there's the potential that if I
provided those hormones to her, then we would you know,
feed any kind of cancer cells that might still be there.
But that's always a discussion to individualize and look at
that specific situation and to discuss what the healthcare provider.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I was gonna say, that's really important to know. Also,
why do you think it is? That's it's kind of
one of those things and I want to use the
word taboo, and that's probably not the right word, but
it's a primary caregiver is less apt to help you
out with hormone replacement therapy.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Well, they're scared and sometimes you know, we have so
much to think about, so much to do during the day,
and have to jump from patient to patient. There's by
the time you're done with the day. It's hard to
go in and research, you know, other things. You know,
it's not necessarily that we're taught that in school. We're
taught a little bit, but we're not taught the full
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gamut of it. And so, you know, and as providers,
we always do continuing education. There's always an opportunity to
do that. But a lot of people are afraid, or
they don't understand, or they just haven't reached that education
level yet.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
What got you interested?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
What got me interested? My husband started talking to me
about testosterone replacement therapy, and of course I was one
of those primary care providers. I'm like, oh no, no,
you can't do that. That's not healthy, you know. And
then I started researching it some more. Of course, he
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researches things immensely and provides me studies. That's what I
love about him. And then I started working in a
clinic that did that, and I started seeing such positive
results in people, so much more positive than I had
seen with the oral estradial and you know, things like that,
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and we're really optimizing the wellness of someone. You know,
a man can have a normal testosterone level of three
hundred or four hundred. But maybe they're in their forties
and they feel really tired and they don't want to
you know, they've got this belly, they don't want to
go exercise. You give them a dose of you know,
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starting you know, milligram strength of testosterone, and maybe they
bump up to you know, nine hundred, still within the
normal range. We've just optimized it, and so they start
feeling better, they start wanting to go exercise, they have
more energy, and they're able to think more clearly.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You know, we think about hormones as being mainly a
female issue, but it's not. It's men and women. And
again we both lose that as we ate.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yes, yes, everything decreases as we age, including.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So what am I gonna What am I going to
feel after this IVY treatment, the NAD treatment.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
You should feel more clarity of mind, you should have
more energy. It is of course recommended when you're doing
IV therapy to do a series over a week or
two of several infusions, and then from there you can
do more of a maintenance like once a month type
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of infusions, just to keep that maintained.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So you're saying, when you first start out with IV therapy,
doing more than one within a two week period, because.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
We've got to catch you up. We've got to catch
you to what you've lost.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So what kind of a regimen would you say, so
we're doing the NADA, would you just continue with the
NAD or would you add in you said, the Meyers
cocktail or.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It just really depends on your needs, you know, as
a person, if you if you admit, you know, hey,
I don't have a great diet. Although I will say,
you know, people get tired of being told you've got
to eat. Well, I can't tell you how important that is.
You know, as you research in ad you're like, oh, wow, really,
what I put in my mouth really, you know, influences.
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But you were asking what kinds of things you can have.
If somebody says, you know, I don't get this vitamin
very well in my diet, then maybe we might add
that in. Certain it just depends on the symptoms I have.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And this is a little bit off the topic of IVY.
But I was watching, Yeah, I was watching a little
clip and it was talking. It was promoting that women
are seeing more women are seeing the effects of menopause
at a much earlier age than say, ten years ago.
And I would also add to that that girls are
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going through puberty much younger than say, ten years ago.
Do you think that is because partly of the additives
and the hormonesit are and foods.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, the foods that we get are often full of preservatives,
have been exposed to certain things when they're grown, you know,
out on the farm. So really going for a more
organic foods is important. You really need to see the
sources of where your foods are coming from. But also
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what's important is preparing the food at home if possible.
I know, you know, when you're both parents are working
jobs and multiple kids going to school and then activities,
it's really hard. It's really hard at our house to
maintain preparing foods at home. But if you can prepare
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from freshole foods at home, that's one of the best
things that you can do.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So going scratch, yeah, I mean, that is really the
best way to eat anymore, right, especially if you're wanting
to kind of streamline you know, where your family's headed
health wise.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, And I will say firsthand it is difficult with
a busy lifestyle, but we have to do the best
that we can.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, I mean, it is so much easier to grab
a box of macarnie and cheese and cheetos. There's a
thing there. I don't eat like that anymore, but there
might have been a time when when my kids were little.
You know, you go for the easy things, the hot
dogs because they like them, the macaroni and cheese because
it's easy and they like it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, and I would say, do the best that you can,
because kids can be picky eaters. Oftentimes their body will
direct them to what they need. But I also have
to say, give yourself some grace. And I tell that
to myself too. I've got to give myself some grace.
Sometimes we do the best that we can.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It's so true. What would you tell parents of girls
that are getting close to puberty age?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Well, that's a good question. As a mother, you know,
I also have to think about that. I would say,
you know, honestly, look just like everybody else, look at
the whole picture. You know, our lives are not going
to be perfect, and don't stress yourself out about making
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the perfect life for your children. Just do the best
that you can. Sleep is important. It's important for everybody
getting adequate sleep. So having that bedtime as close as
you can to getting the hours that are recommended for
their age. Hydration is important. Not enough of us drink
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enough water.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
How much is enough water?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Oh, good question. So general rule of thumb is sixty
four to one hundred ounces of water a day. But
if you want to get really specific, and this is
more for adults or teenagers, if you take your weight
and in pounds and converted to kilograms, which you would
divide your weight by two point two, that's about how
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many ounces you should get in a day and it
usually will fall within that sixty four to one hundred
ounces a day. So we've talked about sleep, hydration, nutrition.
You know, you just have to look at every part
of what a human is. You know, we have to
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look at sitting down as a family, if we can
to have a meal together. All of us have phones.
We struggle with phones at our house, but we have
to limit ourselves with screen time. Getting enough exercise. Exercise
in itself increases in eight production. But exercise is so important.
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It helps release so many other neurotransmitters like dopamine serotonin,
which does make you feel better. As you're able to
build stamina, you're able to do other things and participate
in other fun things, and exercise can be fun. I'm
one of those that I don't like to exercise. To exercise,
I don't I have to be doing something productive or fun.
(25:22):
The one thing that I do is that is exercise.
To exercise is my Peloton bike. But I'm mean motivated.
I've got the person on there talking, I've got the
people on the leader board, I've got the music. Do
I like it or not like it?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
You know? Yeah? I always tell people find something that
you love to do if you're going to work out,
because otherwise, why do it right You're not motivated.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
No, it's much harder to do that. And then I
also like to play volleyball. Volleyball is a big thing
in our family, and so I'm actually going to start
playing in an adult volleyball so co Ed that's awesome. Yeah,
so I'm excited. I can't move like I used to,
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but I feel I've gone so many years not doing it,
and I started doing it again because of my daughter,
and I was like, oh my gosh, I did I
forgot that this was my happy place. Yeah, so find
your happy place and do that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
That's so important. Yeah, it really is. Okay, what do
you tell women who are then approaching menopause, because it
can be kind of scary.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Focus on you know, don't forget about yourself. A lot
of times around that age we're still very very focused
on our family, our children, our partners, our jobs, everything
that we forget about ourselves. And not to say that
you should be selfish, but you should. You need to.
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You need to treat yourself well in order for you
to be able to then give back to what else
is important in your life. So making those small choices
of eating well, whatever you put in your body, you're
doing to yourself. So give yourself something good, give yourself
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something of substance that's going to increase you're nad.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah. So, and do you recommend that they, as they're
going through menopause, that they do talk about the HRTs.
If they start that transition, then will that help them
with night sweats? So I bypassed all that, but that hysterectomy,
So with that, if they were to go to HRTs
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with that help with the night sweat.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It's a good question because menopause is not something that
happens overnight. It's not something that happens in a year.
You know, the clinical criteria for a menopause for women
who haven't had, you know, a hysterectomy or some kind
of surgery is the absence of minci's for a year six.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Months to a year.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
But the symptoms start way before then. Night sweats, maybe
increased anxiety, changes in sleep, being able to go to sleep, hair,
skin changes. And you know, if a woman it still
has her minstrel cycle, but she's having these symptoms, she
(28:30):
still can have progesterone that can help her with sleep
and anxiety because her likely her progesterone level is decreasing.
So it's okay to get started before.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
And why do you think women are starting to go
through menopause a little bit earlier?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Well, I just think I mean it's stress. There's so
much stress. And I'm not just talking about that's interesting, Yeah,
I'm not talking about just like what we normally think
of as stress. Ye, I mean, there is that has increased,
I believe, you know, over time, over the decades. But
(29:07):
it's also our nutrition is not the way that it
used to be, even you know, thirty forty years ago.
We are on our phones a lot, watch TV a lot,
We have a lot of you know, I always give
the example of when people are wondering why do I
(29:31):
gain weight? Why do I have all this weight? And
I'm like, okay, look, one hundred years ago, what were
your ancestors doing.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
They were not sitting and watching television.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, no, and they weren't doing They weren't doing a
desk job either, right. They were working. They were hunting food,
they were working on the farm, they were doing some
kind of labor. So they were always active. So it
was much harder to gain weight that way. So we
have to remember that. That's why we have to add
in exercise. That's why we have to add in those things,
because our bodies have not adjusted over time. There's been
(30:08):
no you know, if you want to call it evolutionary changes,
it hasn't happened over one hundred years. So we have
to provide that to ourselves.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Interesting. Yeah, I just think taking care of yourself overall,
and I think giving yourself permission because there's always, from
what I've in my own life, so many different voices,
people telling you what's right, what's wrong, what you should do,
what you shouldn't do, and I you know, is you know,
don't It's almost like people want to make it feel
(30:39):
bad for taking care of yourself or for wanting to
look good or feel good. And it's that's so interesting
to me because it's available to everybody and it's up
to you to choose whether or not that's for you.
And if it's not, then that's fine, that's okay. But
if you do want to feel better and you do
want to take those steps to you know, get up
(31:00):
off the couch, which is a hard one to do.
It is it's hard to start. Yeah, it is hard
to start, but once you start, you just feel so
much better. And I think just I really want people
to know that it's okay to give yourself permission to
get up and get started. And there are so many
things available now, which is fantastic, So take advantage of
(31:23):
them and at least start to research them.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yes, yes, and talk to a healthcare provider, you know,
ask those questions, ask what, ask about the studies. There's
tons of podcasts out there that you can, you know,
listen to yes and research the information.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, so listen up. We've had some great information today.
It's funny because as we're talking, I just felt I
turned my head and I turned back and I was like, oh,
I just got a little woozy. Oh that funny. Yeah,
so yeah, there's a little woozy that goes on. Okay
with that, okay, yeah, it's not too bad, not too bad.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Any nausea, No, not nausea.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I would say I got hot for a second, okay,
and maybe a little shaky okay. Yeah, So that means
it's working. That's what I always think, Like, if you
can feel it, I'm like, yeah, that's working. That's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
There you go, slow it down a little bit. A
lot of people have described the NAD infusion as when
you go up on the higher doses, like we're doing
two hundred and fifty milligrams with the highest dose a thousand, Okay, okay,
so two fifty five hundred, one thousand. People will describe
(32:44):
it as being uncomfortable. They will describe themselves as being nauseous, dizzy,
pressure on their chest, you know, all those things. But
also a little bit irritable. They will describe of them
is like they don't want to hear anybody else talking.
They're really irritable. But then when that's done and later
(33:06):
they feel so much better. It's completely worth it.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
So interesting, Well, haven't felt irritable. Yet I don't want
to hear you talk. I don't belie. I have so
many questions for you because I do just think this
whole health boom is such a great thing. And I
want to say I think body positivity is a great thing,
but I think it's a great thing when you use it,
(33:31):
meaning you want to take care of your body's well. Yes,
I was just going to say that we only get
one shot at this life, and you know, we all
go through the times where we trash our bodies and
we do all the bad things. And I'll call it
your twenties, right, or there's you know, your child bearing years,
(33:52):
and your body goes through so many different things that
when you have that opportunity, it's like a gift that
you give to yourself to really step in and investigate
everything that's available so that you can feel the best
that you can, right, but the years that you.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Have, right, And I think that's important for us to
remind ourselves so that oftentimes, I really do think most
people give to others and they don't give enough to themselves.
They give, like I said, to their family, to their friends,
to their partners, their parents. You know, sometimes you have
to take care of your parents. Give, give, give, and
(34:33):
you need in order to give more, which often people
want to be able to give more, you have to
be able to take care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
It's true, because if you haven't taken care of yourself,
what do they say, Your cup's empty? So you really
don't have anything else to give to anybody else, right, Yeah, Yeah,
this has been great, Shanna, thank you so much. There
is so much information out there, and I'm really excited
for everybody to hear it. Right now though, I think
because I've got the iv I've got a little bit
(35:00):
of time left. You put me in this comfy chair
with this comfy blanket. I'm gonna hit the button here
and I'm just going to kick back and relax for
a while and enjoyed the IVY treatment. So I'll see
you in a button loyal
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