Susan Powter is Still Trying to Stop the Insanity

In the 1990s fitness guru Susan Powter rose to fame with her sassy late night TV infomercials, short cut platinum hair and her catchphrase: “stop the insanity!”

Do you remember “stop the insanity?” Well the insanity never stopped.

For the last 50 years, corporations have been making a lot of money by waging war on our bodies- stressing us out, forcing bad food and bad lifestyles on us, resulting in good people feeling out of shape, sad and broken.

Let’s Grow Big Together! A podcast that’s like your very own broken beer bottle in the bar fight for your life.

In this series, we’re taking a look at the passion for muscle, adventures in bodybuilding, muscle gods, muscle worship and practical advice to put on the gains.

Today fitness guru and 90s talk show queen Susan Powter joins us to look at why there is still so much money to be made in keeping people sick.

Susan fills us in on her adventures after being a TV fitness icon, and making right wing haters in Texas drop their jaws over her outrageous passion for muscle and fitness.

Please enjoy this classic podcast episode.

Episode Transcript

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In the nineteen nineties, fitness guruSusan Powder rose to fame with her sassy
late night TV infomercials, shortcut,platinum hair, and her catchphrase stop the
insanity. Do you remember stop theinsanity? Well, the insanity never stopped.
For the last fifty years, corporationshave been making a lot of money

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by waging war on our bodies,stressing us out, forcing bad food and
bad lifestyles on us, resulting ingood people feeling out of shape, sad,
and broken. Let's Grow Big Togethera podcast that's like your very own
broken beer bottle and the bar fightfor your life. In this series,

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we're taking a look at the passionfor muscle adventures in bodybuilding, muscle gods,
muscle worship, and practical advice toput on the games. I'm Fousel
and I'm Mark Fillion. Today,fitness guru and nineties talk show queen Susan
Powder joins us to look at whythere's still so much money to be made
in keeping people sick. Susan fillsus in on her adventures after being a

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TV fitness icon and making right winghaters in Texas drop their jaws over her
outrageous passion for muscle and fitness.Please enjoy this classic podcast episode. Hello
is this Susan Powder? My god, it just ran like this crazy three

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time fabulous ring. It is hi, Susan, It's Mark, and this
is Fausto Fernos from Feast of Fun. Okay, now, so who I'm
talking to? I have the deepvoice, I'm Mark, and I'm Fausto
and have the higher, more femininevoice. Spell your name. So Fausto

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is f as in frank au sis in sam t O and is m
Arc. It's the gay spelling.Okay, and wait do you so gay?
Do you do you have? Whatethnicity are you? It's an unusual
name. Marc is actually a French. Now I'm from Puerto Rico. I'm

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from Next question was, are youguys in Puerto Rico? Now we're in
Chicago. That is so fabulous.So it was Puerto Rico. No.
I had three questions, Who thehell am I talking to? Which ones?
Which? And are you in PuertoRico? Why did you? Why
did you think Puerto Rico because Ikeep seeing Puerto Rico and the ship I
look up. Aha. Yeah,my biography says I'm a Puerto Rican person.

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Do you know that I one ofthe few things that I wasn't was
a Puerto Rican woman. If Ihad been Puerto Rican, I would have
been illegal, Susan. I wishstopping the insanity were as easy as just
to declare or to ask people todo it, but it is and is
it Listen to me, I'm exasperated, okay, when first of all,

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if you're talking about the human race, you're lucky to be alive, because
they're horrors for the most part.So exasperation is it's a terrible time,
meaning meaning people are throwing themselves atthe altar of like completely gross. It's
the it's the it's real, Imean, toxic and poisoned and millions of

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people disconnected. It is affecting allof it. It's affected culturally. I
mean, when you build a culturebased on disease, it's not good.
So it is very frustrating. However, it is as easy as understanding what
it means to stop the insanity.And when I said insanity one hundred and
fifty years ago, people I wasnot what in sanity would you like to
talk about? Well, what doyou mean by building a culture based on

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disease? We have the smartest peopleI know. The All American lifestyle is
not working for millions of people.Now, it's not working for billions of
people because the All American lifestyle haspenetrated cultures that didn't even have like obesity,
They didn't have any of the breastcancer, they had a heart disease.

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Okay, So when you have alifestyle that is not working for its
citizens, then you have to lookat how is that possible? Well,
when you look at the profit beforepeople mentality that isn't new. I mean,
what drives me nuts. Listen,if you think you're going crazy,
what drives me nuts is everyone's actinglike any of this is new. I

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mean, for the last one hundredyears, corporate American industrialization has done more
damage than any evolutionary process ever.Ever, it's it's and China is not
exactly be recycling, and neither isIndia. Nobody's recycling. Everybody's consuming everybody's
it's a consumer culture and in manyways we're still just working for the company's

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store anymore. Well, it's beyond, it's beyond. We never were,
honey, That's what really makes meballistic. We never were. I mean,
fast food boys locked in seventy yearsago. The Liquid Candy Boys have
been funding our kids' education for thirtygoddamn years. Can I cuss here them?
Okay? Because I have to,and I just it's either a warning

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to you to get a bleep.Whatever going on, it's sheer ignorance.
I have a thirty year old child. My midwife was almost arrested for attending
my birth thirty years ago in Texas. People, we've been talking about this
stuff for so long, and nowit's like all the rage because it's broken
down to one word green. Sonobody's recycling, nobody's doing anything. What's

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happening is a war zone. Itdoesn't matter a war zone, whether it
is a war on the demineralization ofsoil. It is demineralized, it isn't
being There isn't one square footage ofthe world's ocean that doesn't have trash in
it. The air is polluted,it's not being polluted. And the next

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power that's coming up gives a aboutas much of a ship as America did
one hundred years ago when they werethe power coming up. It's patriarchy,
people, which only the only,the only, the only thing. Patriarchy
excludes is very very gay men.If you're not very gay, you're under
that banner. So so you're justblaming it on the guys. You know,

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it's not the guys at all.It's the men who are controlling the
whole world. There's about the garage. No, no, there's about six
companies now who are and have beenfor a very long time. It's just
less and less now. And itis men. That's not my problem.
That's there it is. It's notwomen. And actually, you know,
for the listeners are thinking this isa lot of conspiracy theory. Here's here's

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that one. I found this wonderfulblog entry on why Americans are so unhealthy,
struggle with their way, why arethey're fat? And one of the
main reasons is because we subsidize hugeportions of the production of corn, soybeans,
wheat, and sugar, which istheir key ingredients to junk food and
fast food. And we've been doingthat with soybeans the largest text border of

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forever. This is not conspiracy.For I'm assuming that you have listeners that
are much smarter than to go well, is this just a boontry conspiracy?
It is what There is no politicalsystem at all in the United States.
It's a lobbying system. So thisis what's happening, Meaning it's been a
lobbying system from jump straight since thefourteenth amen Amendment was passed. You know,

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out of three hundred petitions filed,believe me when I tell you to
eighty seven or something. Well forcorporate America, Corporate America has been a
sociopathic entity since the fourteenth Amendment,which excluded it from all rights not human
beings. Yeah, blacks got freeright after the fourteenth Amendment. Are you
kidding me? It's unbelievably ignorant,is what it is. So anyone who
thinks that it isn't a conspiracy,it's more than a conspiracy. It's war.

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There's a big difference, meaning there'sa war for people's bodies. Well,
to keep people toxic and sick isto keep them old and managed better
than religion does, which is away for people to make money off them.
It's like you feed them a lotof food, they work for it,
and then they get so sick fromall this stuff. You have to
pay for it. And it's notjust people to make money. The top

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fifteen industries are huge constitutions as inthe AMA, the FDA, all of
them, you know, the insuranceboys, all of them are dependent on
people eating total shit. Even thougheven the most clueless knows what shit is
now. I mean, I've beentalking about this for thirty years, even
the most clueless, I mean Ihave been on tour for seven books.

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I mean, it's not like themost clueless note, but they really don't
believe that it can. Like,there's no way the government would put something
in food that could kill you,is there is? Well, they happen
putting the food aside. The secondthing that why Americans are fat is because
we build our cities and roads intooptimizing them for inactivity. That's a load

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of shit, Listen. It isthe gluttonous society, pure and simple.
Americans are fat because for many,many, many years they've been on top.
And when you're on top and you'reand patriarchy is the template, then
it's gluttony. It's still get asmuch as you can. Again, it
is not the individuals. It's notbecause they're not walking that much. It's

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because huge, multi billion dollar campaignsare target marketed at very specific, powerful
groups. The two hundred and seventysix billion dollar food industry two hundred and
seventy six billion dollars, eighty fivepercent of their consumer market are women doing
the goddamn grocery shopping. Well,of course they can depend on them never

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making a standard, not doing anything, and just buying total shit because they're
out of control of their they're tootired to think. They haven't had sex
in thirty five years. They're doingall the work and more still for one
third the pay in credit. There'sstill got their stalker boy. Nothing's that's
the market. That is the mostpowerful market for a reason, but quite
downtrodden. I might add. We'readvertising to children and trying to sell them

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junk food. It's beyond advertising targetmarketed. Listen when you say that.
If I was one of the topfive food boys, and two hundred and
seventy six billion dollars a year wasmy profit, and that's what I want
to get and more. Because youwant to be bigger a mirror, I'm
going to make damn sure they buyit by controlling all the shelf space.
If you knew about if you knewabout the politics, I mean, I

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wrote a book called food one hundredyears ago. If you knew about the
politics of shelf space. It's likemafia owned. You have no idea that
the two most powerful shelf space arethree feet that's your kid, an exhausted
mother, and five six, whichthey considered the average height of the average
woman. It is target marketed,deliberate billions of dollars of campaigns targeted at
you, and that does affect I'msaying this. I've always loved people,

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I've always loved the consumers. I'vealways belie I've always said, you're just
being screwed. Just face that you'rebeing screwed and stop being the victim.
I've never it's confusion, it's hugecampaigns. It's being totally overwhelmed in your
own life. You can't make adecision by It's having no time, no
energy. I mean, I trainwomen, It's what I do for a
living I train on Skype internationally.I got a I got a mother that

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I spoke with yesterday that I spentan hour and a half resurrecting from the
living dead. She's got three autisticsons. Anyone, yeah, fun,
fun, There's another there's another symptomof our society. So it's toxic,
it's deadly, and it's not justan energy. It's real when your soil
is demineralized, when the bees aredying. It's true where we're in a

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crisis and the only thing you cando now is wellness for your own to
survive. Otherwise you're going to getone of those aggressive early cancers. Cancer
hasn't changed. Do you think that'spart of the reason that we have a
lot of im and related diseases?Now? You know as well as I
do that when you are malnarch listen. Malnourished is malnursh Would anybody ever look

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at the belly of a swollen belliedbaby, the standard thing that we see,
and say, wow, I wonderif their immune system is compromised.
All because someone's four hundred pounds doesnot mean they are not suffering severely from
malnutrition. They are. Millions andmillions of Americans are malnourished, even if
they're fat as hell, because they'renot eating anything real at all, and

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they're eating nuclear waste for food.You want to know the food rules in
my house? Yeah, I'd loveto hear them. Okay, here are
the five food rules. Number one, if it glows in the fucking dark,
we don't listen to me. Ifyou don't eight things that glow in
the dark either, do you haveany idea? I mean, if it

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is fluorescent my children mean, Irun my house. I'm the head of
this household, and that's the futurea consumer. If it glows in the
dark, I don't put it inmy kid's mouth. We don't put in
If it turns my kid's mouth blue, I don't give a shit with the
chemical whatever. Say, I'm notthere. It's not common into my home.
Do you know how many foods thatobliterates? I don't know of any

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food that glows in the dark,though, Why don't you start with commercial
oranges that are orange because they're dyed? Yeah? Winds up with that is
like how much of our actual produceis being dipped and dyed and fumiicated like
that. I'm not even gonna sayorganic because I've been saying it for thirty
five years and living it, soI'm not going to become part of the

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imbeciles running around saying it. You'reout of your mind. If you eat
almost anything commercial from the American agrabusinessin this day and age, you're out
of your mind. You're out ofyour mind. You're pretending nothing. Well
do you know that? Okay,my son is thirty, My oldest son
is thirty. And by the way, i'd like to say gorgeous single.

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Oh well, my children and we'revery single in our house. We don't
believe in all that, but yes, my children are. You know,
you want to know why my childrenare single right now? I mean the
single They have girlfriends and things.But when you, I am the matriarch
of my family, My life hasgone into this family and these children and
what we all have together. Whena boy marries a girl, you know,

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marriage is what it is. Anyway, I'm not even going to go
into that crap and the institution thatit is. Nine of the time of
divorce. The woman, of course, does all the work and takes the
child. I'm not going to loselineage like that. Like you better be
damned sure before you walk into myhouse. Speaking of the speaking of kidnapped
the grandkid, Yeah, speaking ofyour children. One of our listeners Mark

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said that he says, you haveto ask Susan about the time she was
breastfeeding in public and someone bitchdat herfor it, and she told him to
fuck off and then shot I'm inthe face with milk. I'll tell you
exactly where it was. My youngestboy, who was thirty, was seven
weeks old. I was in Dallas, Texas. God helped me. I
was on the patio of a Mexicanrestaurant that was very hip. And then,

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by the way, people, thatwas the eighties. I was the
nineties. Stop thea sainety was thenineties. This was the eighties. So
imagine eighties. You know, lotsof insurance money, you know what I'm
saying, And I'm sitting okay,okay. I was the only person within
a one hundred and fifty mile radiuswho was using cotton diapers or cotton of
any kind. Nobody even knew whatthe hell. So I was sitting on
a porch. I mean, ithappened to be the sperm. He's not

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the father, but you know whatever, at the time, I'm going to
be working there, father of saidchild, not a father because he's never
acted like one. So here's thething. I was nursing my baby with
a cotton diaper over my shoulder,which I didn't even have to do.
By the way, I was nursingmy baby, would you too, shut
up? I was nursing my baby. I got a talk show here even

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No I had a diaper, youknow whatever, I wasn't. This is
nineteen eighty three. He was born. Nobody was nursing anything, and nobody
was having babies. Women were havingcareers. There wasn't a pregnant nobody's wearing
middrift pregnant shit in nineteen eighty three, let's you know, nobody, this
big fat belt buckle son of abitch, big blood red steak eating bitch,

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started literally saying, I can't believewhat she's doing. Look at her
over there with that indecent city.And I literally turned around. I squirted
him in the face, and whatI said was this, you take your
steak, your fat bastard into thetoilet, and you eat your lunch in

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the fucking toilet. My son willsit here and have his lunch with me.
Brahma. No, that was nineteeneighty two, So don't even you
know what else just recently happened,which was very interesting. I was on
a showing my son the bus systemin the city, and I went down
to an art store with him.It's a long story, but I had
an iPod and this is my youngestson, and these three boys walked up.

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Do you fuck an eyebucke? Doyou fuck you know did that shit?
And I turned to this one youngman and I said, young man,
you will not only not steal anythingfrom me, you are falling into
the hands of the white man righthere. Why don't you be as dumb
as he wants you to be rightnow? Number one, learn to speak.
Number two, do not think thatyou can steal a goddamn thing from
me. And number three, understandyour standing in front of a young child

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here. And I turned to geton the bus, fully expecting to get
stabbed. I'm not exaggerating this.I fully expected because you don't turn your
back on that shit. I fullyfact And he tapped my shoulder and I
turned around and he said, excuseme, ma'am, I'd like to apologize.
And I said, that's perfectly fine, young man. I understand why
you did what you did, butdon't be that much of a victim.

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And I said, thank you foryour apology. And we sat on a
bus ride. Aw your sense ofoutrage is almost beautiful. It's called mother
you know what, it's mothering.And this is the difference. I'm a
mother, and I actually have thefucking audacity to act like it. The
reason the world is in the completeshitter is because women are the largest holocaust

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in the history of the world.Ongoing is women less than one percent of
the world's world. Blablah blah blahblah. I actually have the audacity to
act like a mother. And ifand when the mothers do, we have
a chance in hell, which I'mnot waiting for and I'm not too excited
about ever, because it's not gonnahappen. So if anybody is not outraged
in this day and age, you'reeither dumb as hell, you are dead

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already, or you don't give ashit. There's the only three reasons not
to be completely outraged. That yourworld has very little air left to breathe,
very little soil that isn't demineralized,and is chopping down everything it needs
at the rate that you can't evenplant another tree to keep up with.
That's real. That's not depressing,that's good news. It's the truth.
Now, Susan, you live inwhat people describe as an earthship? What

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is your home like? I actuallylive now right this moment, I just
open I just open a living artgallery this month. It's going to open.
I now live. Here's the bestway to describe it. I live
in complete hermitage, twenty minutes froma Walmart. Okay, keep time is
off the grid is you know,well, water, the whole thing.

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But I could zip in in tenseconds because I'm filming from here. What
people, the reality you could youyou know, to increase the quality of
your life. You don't have tolive off the grid. You don't,
but you have to get off someof them. You have to get off
some of them or you're screwed.And the quality of life is how you
how you look and feel every day, what energy you wake up in,

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what hew the body that houses you? And everybody puts that aside because they're
too damn busy to get the oxygen. And I hope most don't. I
mean, I hope most keep doingwhat they're doing because the lifestyle will take
care of itself. I go,that's kind of a very unsympathetic I mean,
part of the reason I think alot of people have such unhealthy habits
is because they're just trapped. Theyfeel like they can't get out of the

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hole they've dug themselves into. It'snot unsympathetic, meaning I'm not sympathetic to
that whole. However, in thisday and age, you can learn.
I mean, we are the mostdocumented country in the world. There isn't
anything now with the internet, whichis my idea of heaven. You know,
it's the only Andrea Dwarkin said.It made it very clear the only

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way to be the victim is totake the prone position. You have to
at some point get up and say, oh, come on, I'm eating
myself to death and I look andfeel like shit whether it comes to it,
and what I'm creating is creating fiftymillion other diseases. You know.
I think I just had a conversationwith my son that was about adolescents and
how to manage certain things, andI said, this is your responsibility.

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While you are changing. You mustremind people of who they have loved for
fourteen years. They deserve that asyou change. That's your job, being
a good changer. He got theinstantly, what do you mean. I
don't understand what you mean by that. Okay, so when you take adolescents
out of patriarchy and all the bullshitand the stupid and all that, I

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never made a statement in my lifelike, well, I've got that terrible
too. I never parented like that. I parented respect, you know,
demanding respect, having a household thatyou know they contribute to in every way.
Adolescence is chronologically when you take itout of any culture, which I
mean, nothing has been more destroyedthan family and children. And you know,

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oh my god, I mean,we didn't even have rights to our
own kids, even if they wereour own kids until very recently. You
know, people don't get that that'sthe part that is destroyed. So adolescence
is a very powerful time you're supposedto change. It's it's it's the it's
you know, it's the butterfly,it's the it's the cocooning. It's absolute.

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So it's not annoying, it's not. But as you are changing and
shifting and awkwardly learning things, itis your responsibility if you have a good
family and a good home, andwe do to not forget that. People
have seen you for fourteen fifteen yearsas you are and loved you. That's
what they love about you. Sokeep those behaviors in the forefront to remind

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them as you're changing. That's howyou be. That's how freedom and adolescence
works. And is that the samefor like somebody who is trying to lose
weight or trying to get into shape, and is it's applicable to any kind
of change. Here's the amazing thing. No, you don't have to try
and lose weight. You don't haveto try and lose weight. Here's how
if you live in a human body. If you live in a human body,

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there is only one way on theplanet Earth to change the way you
look and feel. It's not anopinion. You have to eat, and
you have to eat a shitload offucking food, and it has to be
really good foot. Have you evermet an athlete, I'll just ask you.
Have you I met an athlete whosaid, you know what, I
just kind of don't really think aboutwhat I ate. Whatever I want,
I'll just you know, doesn't affectmy perform It doesn't affect whether I'm going

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to win or lose, doesn't affecthow I feel. They're obsessed with food
when they're in training. So ifyou want to lose weight, I teach
people how to become obsessed with foodbecause you're in training, and if you're
in training, you want shit tochange. Step one, you have to
eat. You have to eat awhole lot, and it has to be
the highest quality food for the highestquality performance. Step two. The only

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way fat in any way, inany way, goes anywhere is it burns
off. It's a fuel. Soin order to burn fat off, you
have to you have to literally workyour ass off, literally from very wide.
You have to work it off.That's what you have to do.
There are two ways to do that. Build what is metabolically the most active
tissue in the human body, whichwould be lean muslim ass. I got

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four hundred pounds people lifting weights likeson of a bitches. Because when they
build what is metabolically the most activediss you, their body will burn fuel
very fit and activate your metabolic rate. And there's two things that do that,
movement and food. So I havethe solution. Now, I can
tell you that until I've written sevenbooks on that. No Now I can
be in your living room. Whichis why I never talk about I don't
give a shit about fitness anymore.I don't give a shit about it.

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I don't care who gets fit andwho doesn't, because it's so easy that
it's embarrassing if you don't. Ifyou want to get fit with me.
I am in your living room nowinteresting in your living room, meaning yet
you do one on one coaching throughskytte. I have you sweating Skype training.
I'm in your living room. I'mtelling I'm Steve maddening your body every
move it's actually it's all fitness level. But it's unbelievable because I can see

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every movement. So I train people, and the people I train get very
fit and they're very happy. That'sall I got to know. Now I
don't have to explain it. Youknow, it's not about everybody. People
who don't want to be you can't. I mean, you know, the
associated person. Everything they read fromthose stupid shows every day is such a
load of shit, their little soundbitesof nothing, nothing solving the problems.

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You know, it's like the sodathings. Soda is funding the United States
educational system. The liquid candy boys. They've been in the halls of every
fucking school for thirty five years,but just stop already believing if they don't
buy a sixteen ounce, it's gonnamake nobody's talking about the politics of it,
because people nobody's talking about that,and the politics is the root of
the problem. Always, I wantto, uh, you address this common

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thing that we hear, which ispeople say that's to us a lot because
we're a big fitness enthusiasts as well. They say to me, I'm worried
if I lift weights, I'll windup looking like a gigantic bodybuilder. And
I say to them, it's it'salways like saying that if I'm worried if
I play the cello, I'll startsounding like yo yo ma. Well,

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actually wouldn't be a bad thing tosound like. But yes, exactly,
And that's the point. But Isaid thirty years ago, turn to the
side. What's hanging halfway down yourthigh is not fucking lean muscleman, It's
not what's hanging from your thighs.What's hanging from your thighs is fat.
Then all you got to do istell people one. It's one. It's
one statement again, written twenty fiveyears ago. Here's statement. One pound

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of lean muscle mass and one poundof fat weigh the same. They weigh
a pound, a pound is apound is a pound is a pound is
a pound is a pound. LikeGertrude Stein said, a rose is a
rose is a rose For God's sake, one pound of lean muscle mass and
one pound of fat weigh the exactsame. One pound of fat takes up
five times the volume in the humanbody. Doesn't matter what in the human

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body. What's wide is fat,not lean muscle mass. And in order
to get that hideous weight lifting horrifying, look, you have ninety nine point
nine percent of the time take enormousamounts of steroids. And that is the
polar opposite to anorexia, because nomuscles are supposed that is the extreme,
they're the opposite. That is hideous, and that's not what I'm talking about.

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Lean muscle mass is metabolically the mostactive tissue in every human being's body.
So you better build some of thatshit. If you want active tissue,
active burns fuel. One of thefuels it's got to burn its vent
I mean, this is like,I don't know the most basic shit,
But don't waste your time telling peoplebecause I have already. They're not getting
it because the onslaught that they're gettingIt's only anybody who listens to this today.

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A S t s. Your liberationis way too well. Let's talk for
a moment about fat acceptance and therecent video blog you made addressed to large
and in Charge, because there's peopleout there saying, listen, I'm big,
I accept myself, I love myselffor the way I am. I
want to be this size. Firstof all, the target market, the

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primary market is women, So we'regoing to talk about women here because fat
women. You know, you couldbe a fat guy and you're just a
big guy. You used to playsome ball, you know, you're a
fat woman. It's fat women,let's do that. And the diet and
fitness industry that is their target.They are their billions of victims. Okay,
so it's fat women, fat acceptance. I love the way I look.
Okay, if I were bewitched rightnow, I have asked this one

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question in hundreds of thousand seminars,thousands, thousands. Okay, I asked
this one question. If I werebewitched right now, and I could wiggle
my nose and you could instantly andforever be lean, strong, healthy,
and well, would you choose threehundred pounds. Never has a hand gone

(30:47):
up, because you'd be a foolto put a hand up on that question.
You'd look like the Oh no,I'd much rather be fat. Also
intentional, nobody intends over fat unfit, only accept something when some major industries
and years of being beaten down andbeing the gender that if you're a fat
girl, you don't gay, thatmakes you believe that's all you can have.

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So it is. It's not agood place to start as is,
and it's not true. It's false. Lean, strong, healthy and well
is what everyone wants. I didn'tsay skinny, I said lean, strong,
healthy and well. But I cantell you that I am fifty four
years old and what I did thismorning in my practice, my movement with
myself, I couldn't do when Iwas twenty. And I'm not kidding.

(31:33):
You were fantastic, by the way, Thank you. I've never felt better
in my life and never you know, the sad thing is, I've really
never looked better. And lesbians areso annoying to be around, you know,
it's just a happy Let's talk aboutMichigan Women's Music Festival, Yes,
which we have our spies there andso they always like our reporting back to

(31:53):
us. Susan Powder said this.Powdern said this, So you've had a
really profect life changing experience yourself asas a gay woman, as a lesbian
woman at the Michigan Women's Music Festival. Well, no, they're not connected
at all. I mean, Itotally and absolutely and always will do anything

(32:15):
possible to keep going a twenty sevenyear nothing easy about having only women meet
because of course everyone wants inclusion.And now that's all the rage. So
and then they create war. That'swhat they've done. I mean, that's
you know, people, now,it's all the rage it took. I
think it took SHA's sons slash daughterslash whatever to start the rage, but
now all the rage is inclusion.I don't play any of those games at

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all, and to me, justto be able to gather with women as
faculas. But Michigan has nothing todo with me being a lesbian at all,
and nothing to do with being alesbian, because all every woman under
the sun, every kind of woman, has the privilege of gathering there,
and hopefully for the rest of mylife will still be I maintain and my
children know this. And I thinkevery woman who's been married a couple of

(32:59):
times and has already had her babiesover the age of forty is a lesbian.
I agree. I understand they're afraidof the sex. I get it.
They're afraid of vagina, they're afraidof their own vaginas. I get
that. But every woman, like, there's no woman who doesn't want to
have a conversation. I mean,I said recently to this guy, I

(33:19):
said recently, he's a very niceman. I said to him, you
do know I'm a lesbian, don'tyou? And he said no, I
did not know that. And Isaid, well I am, and he
said, well that's fine. Withme because that works. You know,
if you're a really smart boy,that's like and that's what I just said
jokingly, but it's serious. Haveyou looked at the average fifty five year
old lesbian. I don't know howto answer that question. Okay, it's

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the city, Santa Fe ring abell yes, yes, okay, so
I'm not into any of that SantaFe, New Mexico at you know,
the practical shoes, you know.Well, that's why I was laughingly saying,
I said, the lesbians are godknows, they're not doing anything.
They're too busy spooning and sobbing.Well what do you? What do you?

(34:05):
What's your opinion on bears, becausecertainly gay men have kind of taken
to that fat deal, to fatacceptance and saying and this is what I'm
actually sexually attracted to is big guys. Well, and you know, I
know, I know first of allgay men. I have the greatest story
about Gay Pride San Francisco three yearsago that I didn't even know, because
I didn't know these gorgeous a littleseventeen year old boys and twenty one year
old boys like they were like threeand working out with their mother. They

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like it was amazing. But Bearshave always loved me, and I've always
loved Bears because who wouldn't. Imean, come on, and gay,
you know, there's nothing better thanyou know, nothing, But Bears started
out as a It wasn't about fat. It was about big, hairy,
hunky, big bastards. You know. It was a different energy. You

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know, it wasn't about it wasn'tit's about people saying I love being eight
hundred pounds of obesity. That's notwhat it is. And when you talk
about over fat and unfit, especiallywhen you get break it up into the
gay world, I mean, thereis nothing. How many bigger victims.
I mean, for God's sake,women check that off the list, Mothers
who aren't connected, who are exhausted, who are having two and three babies.

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I mean, that's who I've beennormal ryan with for one hundred and
fifty years. And that is Thatis the bulk of it all. It's
part of the punt. The realpeople just trying to look and feel good,
you know, get back to gettingtheir shit back feeling good, especially

(35:36):
in the summertime. Oh my god, there's nothing worse. Isn't loving yourself?
Mean? Asking and working to getthe best life possible, the best
body possible, to eat the bestdiet possible. I know, you know
some of the stuff that I talkabout and to and any of the ologies
are just the big So none ofthat psychology, No, there is nothing

(35:58):
more loving. I'm talking about thephysiology, and the fact that that is
never discussed is the suspect. Thisis the this is the suspicion. This
is where it gets very Why alwaysthe oprah, Why always the psychology?
Why always that we still get?How about the physiology? There is nothing
more loving. I know as amother because milk fed five children from my

(36:21):
breasts. I produced milk food forthe human race, so I know what
it's like to feed someone you lovemore than anything. There's nothing more loving
than feeding yourself because you can't livewithout fucking food. There's nothing more loving
than getting yourself oxygen because it feedsevery cell and every muscle. Feeding is
feeding yourself. That's the most lovingaction. I'm just talking about action.

(36:45):
You're gonna eat something anyway when yougive yourselves, when you prepare, I
mean, I've done seminar after seminar. Just plate it up for yourself,
bitches, you don't have to behome and pregnant, but you can stop
for a second, tell everybody togo to hell and put some food on
a plate and sit the hell downand eat it for yourself. Forget the
family, forget the husband, letthe kids starve, who cares? Just

(37:06):
feed yourself and then you will havethe fuel. That's a very loving action,
and it's the simplest of loving actions. And we live in a place
unlike half the world, where wehappen to have the privilege of food,
So it's disgusting on many levels.One of the most common questions I get
asked by people is that they findthemselves in relationships where one of their spouses,

(37:29):
one of their lovers is getting outof shape, that they're living unhealthy,
making unhealthy choices, smoking, obesity, not exercising, And their question
for me is always how do Iget my husband, boyfriend, girlfriend to
work out to live healthier? AndI say to them, it's impossible to
change other people's behavior, but youcan change your own behavior. I tell

(37:52):
them to go to hell. Well, let's look at him and say,
you can be fucking exhaust and lookingterrible and not contributing to you can do
that. If you want, fuckyou, I'm gonna go work out.
Don't care about stop already. It'syour life. And by the way,
the number two can only become oneif one dies, so mathematically they don't

(38:15):
work well. Semi colon relationships andlook into that whole politic and you'll really
get it free. This is yourlife. I don't care who you are.
It's not dress rehearsal people. I'mnot. I don't give a shit
what anyone needs. What I'm sayingis you can look fucking amazing. What
I'm saying is I'm not kidding.Listen, here's what I'm saying. And

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this is the this is the revival. This is real. And I've been
saying this forever. I put ona pair of shorts. I didn't even
think about it. I'm doing thisRden. I threw They weren't even shorts.
They were like really super cute Americanapparel, like boy shorts, you
know what I mean, that kindof shit. I threw them on the
other day and when I stopped andlooked at the mirror, I said,

(39:00):
my god, I could it was. I don't care it was. It's
so good to be able to throwon a pair of shorts without even thinking
and feel great and look great andrun out in garden for a moment.
You can have that very easily.Why wouldn't you want that? Why wouldn't

(39:20):
you want energy versus lethargic and halffucking dead. Nobody wants toxic, nobody
wants obese. Nobody wants obeese.It's a load of shit. That's why
the love. And by the way, that one blog you're talking about was
a direct response to a blog sentto me. And as I said,
I said, child, you're ringingthe bell of every stupidity. I love
being fed at twenty three. Ilove eating shit at twenty three. Jesus,

(39:44):
we got no help, hope.If that's what our twenty three year
old young women are ringing the bellof, that is a political that's a
real statement. That's the end ofthe world. And when you have people
feeding their children toxic waste, thatit's poison, and they that nobody wants.
Nobody says I want to give mykid shit that is guarantee is cancer.

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Don't even ask Nobody says that,but it's happening. The politics of
stupid it is very distressing sometimes whenyou see like a mother putting diet coke
in a baby bottle and giving itto a her kid. That's good.
So what are you saying? Becausethere are people in my life. I
have very good friends that I've grownup with, you know, or family
members that are you know, obese, and it's like I worry so much

(40:27):
about their health and it's like,how do you even bring something like that
up to them? Is because Ifeel as though it's like, you know,
talking about waste times. You can't. You can't because you can't.
I can't. That's what I madea living do. That's what I do.
I can And the reason I couldalways is because I don't worry,
never worry about I Way back inthe day before TV, way back in

(40:51):
Dallas, text is short white peopleare throwing shit out of their cars.
That made people. I was notpopular with short white hair in Dallas,
Texas in nineteen eighty two. Isnot okay before any of it. When
I was teaching my classes and teachingwellness whatever, when any basically obese person
would say anything, whether it's myknee is out, I would say,
well, no shit, you gotfour hundred pounds on top of it,

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and we would laugh because it's true. When somebody would say to me,
well, everybody in my family isI would say, everybody in your family
is shaped like a But no,everybody in your family has been eating fried
everything for generations. That's what Ijust said about the baby bottle. When
you see a mother putting coca colain a baby bottle that's from a certain
region, like that is who theyThen they do have the excuse of culturally

(41:37):
not having any I actually adore,I adore that's just the truth. What's
worse is when you see, whichI did recently, people spending just it
was disgusting. The amount of moneyat a restaurant for lunch disgusting, And
it was the worst food ever.I mean, I'm like, oh,
this is such shit, oil everythingelse. And they're eating the same meet

(42:00):
that anybody's They're eating commercial beef andI don't give a shit how much you
pay for it, bitches. It'sstill being raised the way it's being raised.
They didn't have any idea, andthen they had ice cream for they're
eating bovine growth. But what's disgustingis the is the total cluelessness. I
just came back in November from Texasfor a visit that no I nobody remember

(42:25):
I live. I really do liveit. Okay, nobody is It's not
just go there for a weekend andyou'll know that. If that's what educated
and exposed is, well then we'repretty much fucked. We have some questions
here for you through Facebook. Theone comes from Cassio magal HEAs, where

(42:45):
do you find the energy and motivationto get back on track after achieving a
certain level of fitness and then gettingbored and very out of shape? Okay,
Cassio, this is why I loveit. A you your name is
an old recording machine, and beand b this is this is a question
because it's a terrific question. Thisis what I mean. You should be

(43:06):
bored. Everything out there is shit. What is happening out there is so
ridiculous. You can't go to aI went walked in in New York recently
to a gym. I walked outimmediately. The smell of plastic alone was
enough to make me vomit. Thewhole place smell like a plastic fucking chemical
bubble. That with the TV andthe people and the obnoxiousness and everything.

(43:27):
That's not what I'm talking about.When I say, move, Cassio,
listen to me. You have tolearn the art of movement and the joy
of rigorous because to sweat blood isexciting. Oh guess what, people,
sexuality, creativity, oxygen. Thisis why I do what I do.
I don't do it because I careabout people's health. I don't I do
it because my family's healthy. I'mhealthy. I look better than most people,

(43:49):
and that was my goal all along. That's fine me. But there
are moments like there are moments whenyou are in that you know, sweating
blood in your practice with your body? What is more powerful on earth than
your next breath? Why don't youask Steve Jobs? There's one thing.
He would have written a check forall of it. He would have written
a check all of it on thespot for the next however many years.

(44:14):
I know I am lucky enough tohave. If I am, he would
have written a check for all ofit. And every one of you know
it. So you have to beinspired by oxygen. You have to learn
that that is the thing that triggerseverything. You can levitate, bitch,
and know that. And you canonly do that with me because I know
how to teach movement. So Cassie. Unless you train with me, it's
pretty hopeless. Well, the thingis is I've discovered too, especially with

(44:35):
my exercising, is tying my exercisein my body movement with a certain breath
makes it much more powerful and Ican move better. Well, I mean,
let's give it the credit it's due. I start every private training session
I have. It's not meant.I don't meditate. I mean, are
you kidding me? Jesus? Wouldyou know what? I would implode?
I would implode? I would Ican't picture you meditating. Now. Well,

(44:57):
you're a yoga teacher, though I'myond I don't teach their yog.
I hate the yoga industry and Ihate them. I don't teach their yog.
I've stolen it back because we're notallowed on the mountaintop. There are
no female gurus on the mountaintop.It's like it's like a priest don a
pulpit. So there's a certain thingabout yoga that it reminds me of like
Catholic church, you know, andit's like they're imposing their religious views on

(45:17):
you when you're actually just trying tobe healthy. Well, actually, the
Catholics are the ones that slaughtered themall because England took over India and destroyed
everything and killed them because they werenot Catholics. So actually it's kind of
brutal anyway you look at it.But the fact is it is a patriarchal
religion because A no women are allowedin and B you know whatever, if

(45:38):
you want to sit in a mountainand find in the meantime, if you're
the real meditation, which I domeditate more than anyone, the real meditation
is active meditation and being centered andbeing very rooted in your breath, and
being able to lift your leg upto the left side and stand sideways for
any length of time breathing in that. It is very powerful. But there

(45:58):
are our movements. We stole themback. My last video was trailer Park
Yoga. Brett Phillips asks. Hesays, stop the insanity is one of
the greatest catchphrases of all time.I wonder what it's like to be so
strongly identified with a catchphrase like that. Oh my god, I love your
audience questions, all of you callin or send in because I love your

(46:20):
questions. They're good questions. It'sactually the bane of my existence. Not
for the reason that you may think. If you've watched on any television lately,
you will see a complete ripoff,a direct from my logo itself insanity
workouts. They stole my logo,the exact logo from the box. And
no, no, I hear youjust have no idea. The reason it's

(46:42):
the most terrific thing, and thankyou for asking that, young man.
The reason it's the most terrific thingis because it's mine. I invent it
wasn't invented. I said, stopthe insanity. Which insanity would you like
to talk about? And it inspirednew thought. So I don't connect with
it now. I mean, I'mit's it's been years, you know,
years, and I've written seven bookssince and my last book, The Politics

(47:05):
a stupid is the title says itall. The Politics is a beautiful title.
By the way, thank you,because you know what. Listen,
this is what I say to Michael, I say, it's every one of
them, everybody out there talking aboutthe issues. I understand that Flint Michigan's
down. I get it. Iget it. But less you know,
in the meantime, you're four hundredpounds on a good day, Like if
you want to be the most political. It's what you're eating. If you
want to be the most political,It's what you're putting in your fucking pantry.

(47:29):
If you want to be the mostpolitical, It's what your children see
when they open the cupboard. Ihave gluten free vegan sons, not because
we're snobs. We're not. Ieat whatever I want, because they're aware
of what their choices mean to thefucking world. Because my son is spent
seven months in areas where because wecan drive through and eat the most disgusting

(47:50):
fucking food, they've lost all theirfarming and farmers are taking the chemicals and
pesticides to kill themselves in the hundreds. Like this is real, people,
and it is political. And whatI've been saying now is the most important
thing on earth. That's why Icame back to work. Wellness is the
most important thing on earth now becauseit's the most political. What you ingest

(48:10):
is global now, like banking,you how you choose to live does affect
shit that you may not know about, but you have a feeling about,
because we all know that shit's bad. You know, with you just say
fuck you, I'm not going todo that, and yes, I will
spend three cents more and buy itat a local store, because you know
what, bitch, I'd rather dothat than go down to your megamart and
in your lighting alone. The lightingalone is too offensive in most of these

(48:35):
places, Susan Powder, I couldlisten to you talk about all this stuff
all day long. Listen. Youknow I have no idea. And I
say this respectfully because I have noidea. It's okay, I'm off the
grid. Bitches, I have noidea what you did. Did not you
know you were connected to fitness atall? I know that I like your
energy a lot on my Twitter,and if I like your energy, I'll
do whatever. And you're very smartboys, I didn't know you were,

(48:58):
and your audience is very smart.So we should chat anytime, anytime.
Christian Greenia, who's Elvira's number oneassistant and best friend, he says that
you guys are like close friends onTwitter and you chat about food all the
time. I think that I havewaited all my life. I'm not kidding

(49:21):
for the mediums to catch up tome. I could not be more excited
than I am in this day andage, because for me to be able
to talk to whomever I choose,not have anyone I want on there say
whatever I want without standards and practices, because every time I open my mouth
fifty eight lawyer, you can't saythat, you can't do that. You
can't say that you can't do that. Can't tell you that. And even

(49:42):
as free as I was, Iwas still totally shackled. Not anymore so
to me, this is the greatestday and age. Technology is the portal
where we can reach I mean,I'm training someone tonight in England and the
fact that she's in her library beautifulby the way, orange lid in England,
and she's sweatd bullets and resurrecting fromthe living dead and reconnecting with their
body. With me, that's thehottest thing on earth. So that's great.

(50:07):
So you're actually like video blogging,I mean video skyping. H I
private train you, so they meetwith you, and so you're like giving
them like a little class. Doyou know this is it's not a little
class, baby? Do you knowwhat we should do? No? No,
I sit down with you and Igive you a five month program and
I'm your dominatrix. You follow it. No, No, I train you

(50:27):
for five you eat everything I sayI don't care, which I don't care.
You eat, you show up whenI say show up, and no
matter what you do, and youshould well that you no. I train
you, I put you, Itrain you. We should I never say
this, and you know what,maybe I shouldn't. Anyway, we need
to do. We need to dolike a public some kind of very hip,

(50:49):
very strict training. But you gotto do it because because my name's
it's me and so you got toreally do it. But you're already fit,
so whatever. You know what I'msaying, Susan Powder, thank you
for leading the charge against these corporationswho are fighting and working so hard to
own our bodies and our minds.It's exactly what's happening, and it's very

(51:10):
easy solution. Eat, breathe,move and think your way back to a
life of energy and strength. Andin this day and age, it's very
easy to do. It's very well, it was easy to do. Then
sanity would have stopped. But theinsanity does continue. And thank god there
are people like you to fight againstthat. Well, thank you, Thag.
You've been charming young men. Sendme something on yourself so I can

(51:30):
see who the hell I just talkedto awesome, we sure will. Are
you on Facebook at all or Idespise Facebook and Facebook? Really really?
No? No. If you loveTwitter but and you love video blogging on
YouTube, well my Facebook is myTwitter feed only. That's the only reason.
Is it face takes me ballistic fora million reasons. But I don't

(51:52):
use Facebook at all. But myTwitter feed just goes through it. Because
in this day and age, youknow, whatever, you have Facebook,
But no, I do not useFacebook. And I think is poetry literally
if in fact you have something tosay, and because most don't, doesn't
mean the medium isn't astounding. Wellyeah, I mean Mark and I have
been working out pretty intensely for thelast couple of years, and most recently

(52:14):
we're doing German volume training, whichis really interesting because it's very cardiovascular but
you're doing ten sets of ten ofweightlifting exercises and you're dealing with the fundamentals
and man, it's like you're ourbodies are growing and breathing. Yeah,
it's very German. It is veryGerman, you know. It's it's German

(52:37):
in a good way what you justdescribed as German. Then there's like parkour,
which is French listen. Listen therewhat I do and it's and anybody
listening. It's very simple. Whenyou look at a ballerina's body, or
a or a yogi's bot, whenyou look at a run, when you
look at certain bodies that incredibly cut, incredibly and you know, incredibly strong,

(53:01):
incredibly graceful and lengthening movements, it'sso easy in this day and age,
and there are no systems. Thereare no systems. You have to
get back to movement. You haveto not only cardiovascular, you have to
increasely muscle mass. Activate metabolically,you have to you know, oxygenate,
you have to activate, you haveto ignite. That's what you have to

(53:21):
do, and you do it ina variety of ways. But the fact
is it's every it's part of yourlife. Like I don't not do movement
because I feel like shit when Idon't, and because my body aches when
I don't, and because I getthey just don't not do it. So
how for it to become you becoming? Be here now? Barbara ram das

(53:42):
well, that is literally in learningwhat a high quality lifestyle is. My
violin teacher when I was a kid, she used to tell me, you
don't need to practice the violin everyday, only on the days that you
eat. And in a lot ofways, like we kind of take that
approach towards fitting it is that youyou don't need to move or breathe or
exercise every day only on the daysthat you eat. No, But that's

(54:06):
actually I adore what you just saidabout your violet because that that is an
ancient understanding that to be chemically balancedto at least, you know, give
your body a chance to be balancedenough to be where you need to be,
whether it's playing you know, beautifullyor whatever it is that is.
That is very bottom line shit.Then that's why it's so ridiculous that it's
all been made so complicated. Yougot to eat, breathe, move,

(54:28):
and think. There's no fucking formulaother than that. That's how I said
that a thousand years ago. That'sall you got to do. And you've
got to do that on a regularbasis for the rest of your life.
And you do have to make decisionsin this day and age because you can't
plead ignorance unless you are unless youlive in the you know, the backswamp
somewhere. You can't plead ignorance.You can't pretend you're not seeing what's going
on. You can't plead ignorance.And that's being a part of the solution,

(54:52):
just every day. And that's whatpeople are overwhelmed. They do know
what's going on, and they're they'rethey're more overwhelmed. Now, that's why
the inside, they're more overwhelmed nowat the speed of light. But the
fact is it is all true,and the end of the world is not
admitting it and not changing a fewthings, because that's very empowering to be
able to live within and be partof solution. And it's easy. I
mean, I'm growing food. Kidsdon't talk to me about being a solution,

(55:14):
and that does not come naturally forme. What's in your garden right
now? My god, I'm outof my mind. Me number one in
a pink, juicy couture bikini,juicy gature and it has a little pink
ruffled skirt and a juicy gatur todie for this bathing suit. Okay,

(55:35):
me is in the garden. Ihave no idea what I'm doing. I'm
filming everything and blog. I haveno idea what I'm doing. But what
I know is that I can't justdrive around in a garden pretend that the
oils come and cheap. It isn't. I can't pretend that anything's shanging.
So bit by bit that's how youdo wellness, meaning wellness in a very
big level, just bit by bit. I'm like, okay, well,

(55:57):
then if I can fucking grow food, I'm a amazing cook, then I
don't even have to like I cangrow food, well, I'm not growing
it and surviving on it. Ican drive down the you know, ride
down the street. I bike tenminutes, and I can get to a
health food store. Not the pointI actually grew something that is the most
like. That's that's where joy,that's where motivation, that's where inspiration.
Well, that's the same thing assomebody who's been feeding themselves shit every day

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having one twenty four hour period whereI actually fed myself nothing but good shit
today, that same moment of respectand like pride and excitement. That's where
it is. It's in the doing. It's in the doing of it well.
And almost anybody can garden. Igrew up in suburban America, and
my father, I mean during thesummer, I mean it was tomatoes,

(56:42):
it was broccoli, zucchini. Buteverything came out of that garden. Then
you're the luckiest man alive. Andthat's Middle America, and that still was
existing then. I know, likepeople say to MELI, I could say
to you right now, anybody canget fucking lean. No, no,
no, I never couldn't. Couldn't. I have tried. I've grown Vietnamese
jungles. I've grown shit that peoplecouldn't recognize, like I've mutated vegetables.

(57:06):
Gardening for me has been the hardestthing ever, and the doing of it
has been the most inspiring. Solife is in and I don't have good
soil and you're in New Mexico.I mean, that's one of those things.
And that's why probably part of thereason why you know that using a
lot of chemicals in the soil areas, because it's like things don't really want
to grow in New Mexico except forlike cactuses. Well it's seven thousand feet

(57:30):
up and you know, soil isso but life grows. And I just
sat, you know, listen thetop of the mountain. Literally, I
mean things literally, I mean thingsphysiologically. I'm a literal I'm a very
rooted young person So when I saytop of the mountain, I mean that's
why I'm here, because to bethis high up and this close to what

(57:52):
the hell you can see and whatfoif and the air that is left.
You know what I'm saying too,It's real. It's real. Come on,
I lived in la for years.Don't tell me that's not really like
it's so fresh sh oh, atleast while some is left. You know,
what I am doing now is livingbecause I because I worked hard too.
And what I'm doing now is youknow, talk about the fruits of

(58:15):
thirty years of parenting. I mean, oh my god, I mean Hamlet.
It's Hamlet. I mean, Ihave three of the most amazing sons
in the history of the world.It's Hamlet. That's all I have to
say. And all I have todo for the rest of my life is
find the tree I want to livein, because all three of my sons
are always going to make sure thatI will be in the treehouse that I'm
heading for soon and have been foreighty years. No no, I said
Giadesic Dome four hundred years ago.So uh uh, I'm heading for the

(58:37):
treehouse. Bitches. You're going tobuild a treehouse instead of the earthship that
you're living life. I've already doneair ship. I've already done. Like
next level is treehouse for me,and I'm gonna be Here's what I'm gonna
do. Listen, you say,listen, you just do me a favor.
Jot this down. There is afabulous woman. Just jot down the

(58:58):
Queen of Whale, k Joe Carstairsand read the book. Joe Carstairs was
a very fabulous, sexy lesbian nineteenthirty when much was sexy, and she
oh, she did speedboat racing,all kinds of things, and Bretta Garbo,
lots of Hollywood fabulous were her lovers. And she bought an island and
she lived on that island for many, many, many years. And in

(59:20):
the beginning there was a theft,and she called everyone on the island all
the end digit everyone in a littletiny island. This is nineteen thirties people.
All I have to say is JosephineBaker Paris. You know, Oh
my god, lesbians, nothing moreto say. Okay, So she called
everyone and said until the food isreturned, everyone including myself, was starved
to death. And she meant itlike we're all going to starve to death

(59:42):
and then it'll never be spoken about. So there was never never, There
wasn't anybody didn't stealed, inn't run. And she governed that island for many
years. And again many beautiful womenflew down and spent some time with her
there. The reason was like thereason, well, it's beyond it's real.
And then you know again, ofcourse nobody knows that her story,
and nobody knows about Joe Carster.She also broke every speed racing record in

(01:00:04):
history, which you don't know aboutthat when you hear about speed racing.
And she built her own boats,so you don't know about that either.
But that's typical. That's just calledhaving a vagina and being totally obliterated from
history. The reason I bring itup, here's what I'm doing. I
want an island, not a bigone, a very small one. I'm
thinking Fijian because you can still dothings with indigenous cultures there, give them
a little cash and say leave mealone. I want an island and I'm

(01:00:27):
going to build a treehouse community ofartists, and it's going to be a
complete dictatorship, benevolent. It won'tbe slavery because it'll be me. I'm
not going to hurt anyone, butit's a dictatorship. And I actually have
a vision of me hiding in thebushes shooting poison darts at anyone who comes
that isn't invited. Wow. Ifanybody could make that happen, it would
be you, Susan. That's whereI'm going, baby, that's where I'm

(01:00:47):
going, Fiji, Susan Powder,stop the insanity. Thank you so much.
Send me a copy of this,and send me a copy of this.
Only do it justice if you needwhatever. Make sure it sounds great
and that we're fabulous and funny,and send me a picture of the both
of you. Awesome, We surewell. Bravo boys, it was a
pleasure. I'm going goodbye, Thankyou, sir. Why Susan Powder.

(01:01:08):
Susan Powder lives in an earthship inthe mountains of New Mexico, on the
mountaintop. On the mountain top.Wow, thousand feet up. Wow,
that's far up, I feel likeAnd now I can exhale. After that
intense interview, I was the mostintense guest that we've ever had. I
was making sure to breathe throughout mymind. My breathing purposeful breathing because I

(01:01:30):
don't. Sometimes I forget to breathe. We need to reflect on what all
just happened. It's a lot.It's a lot, you know. I
think some of it's a lot.Some of it is you know, it's
I've been through it because I lookin the past year, I've lost almost
like forty pounds and I was eatinglike commercial food, breads, pizzas,
all that kind of stuff, andI figured I must speA gluten intoleran,

(01:01:51):
and sure enough, I cut itout of my diet and I've lost weight.
But I'm also consciously eating more likehealthy choices. And I'm the first
one to admit that there's a reasonwhy we subsidize corn, sugar, soybeans.
It's because these foods are delicious,you know, And and that's what
you know. I mean, theymay not be the best foods for us

(01:02:13):
to eat, but definitely that's there'sa reason that we're doing this. Because
they're easy to manipulates as grains andthey're easy to grow. And to some
extent, it kind of disturbs meand bothers me a lot that a single
corporation has the patent on all themajor grains that we consume and sues organic

(01:02:35):
farmers who are trying to grow otherstrains of like, oh, I didn't
know that was even happening. Yeah, I'm on Saturit always surprising a crazy
shows and cooking magazines and people talkingabout cooking is like people that I know
that like, oh, I don'tever cook, and I just think to
myself, well what do you do? It's like, oh, I just
eat out all the time, andI think, my god, that's got
to be horrible. We had aguest here. There's comforting though about going
out for food out there is wedo eat up, but it's all so.

(01:03:00):
It's one of those things where it'slike you have to be able to
cook for yourself. And he cameover and while I was making a salad
and I had him like, greata carrot. He didn't know how to
great a carrot. I had toshow him how to great a carrot.
And I thought to myself, Wow, that's something. Maybe this is our
calling. Maybe we just need toshow people, like how a great carrots
live in a dictatorship in Fiji withsusan powder, you know, eating darts

(01:03:22):
at people. I didn't get totell this to Susan Powder. But one
of the first drag characters that Iever did in the early nineties was Susan
Powder. And I shaved my headand wore a unit hard and did aerobics
classes, yelled stopped the and yelledstop the insanity, and then had a
nervous breakdown. And because I waslike in the closet as a lesbian.

(01:03:44):
Oh did you know she was alesbian way back then. No, we
just came up with that on ourown because we thought it would be funny,
but it then it turned out tobe true. Your gatar worked my
gatar always. But I really likedwhat she said about, like, what
is it women over the age offorty who have had kids are all kind
of lesbians? That is so true, Susan, Can I get a name
man? A woman around likes tosay no sex beans. Well, some

(01:04:06):
of them they're not necessarily having sex, but they're you know, they're hanging
with their girlfriends. But people it'slike it's a you know, there is
I agree with Susan. It isa war for your body right now.
You know these corporations. Mitt Romneywants to own your ass and he wants
to make sure that it's kind oflike, you know what it is.

(01:04:28):
It's the movie The Matrix, onlyit's not our brains that are hooked up
to the robots. It's our stomach. It's it's our intestine and our guts
make them money. The more theycan feed us junk food and keep us
from moving and keep us from thinkingand responding and taking action, the richer
these corporations get with Like a lotof those people that eat those carbetityv diets,

(01:04:49):
they become kind of they become depressed. Yeah, and listen, and
you know, I think the onething that I disagree with Susan is that
it's people would do more if theyknew how to do it. There is
a lot of frustration out there.There's a lot of hopelessness. There's a
reason why a perky, intense,out of control gay men like Richard Simmons

(01:05:15):
can make a lot of money becausehe's not just a fitness guru or enthusiast.
He's a therapist for a lot ofthese people. And I'm sure that
Susan does that as well with ourclients. Is that you know, it's
invigorated to like go do some exerciseright now. I know I'm just like,
it's our day off, our bikeride. Yeah, I mean,
it's like, let's breathe, baby, it's like spring. It's summer in

(01:05:35):
Chicago right now, and it's gloriousout there. And if this podcast is
going to do anything it is toinspire you to get moving, go,
you know, spend a little bitmore money and buy yourself some more organic
produce at the Farmer's Market. They'reopen right now, and do it looking
good in an Obama rainbow T shirt. We've got t shirts up for sale

(01:05:56):
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Because podcasting don't come free, youknow, we're hosting the audio files.
Unlike YouTube video bloggers, We're Google'sowning your shit. We are posting this
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because we love you and we reallywant you to live the best life possible.

(01:06:18):
And we hope that Susan's intense insanity, our own brand of deliciousness can
spark a fire inside you and getyou move in a little bit more and
eating a little bit healthy, youknow, staying healthy and well. Yeah,
because it's that's toff honey, it'slike your sex life will be better,
your sense of righteousness will be better. You know. It's like,

(01:06:41):
if you really want to bring politicalchange lasting, I mean the feminist kinnie,
you'll look in a pink katu bikiniin your garden, juicy, a
juicy katier. But the thing aboutit is like, you know, the
feminists were right on in the nineteensixties. I'm not sure who said this,
but the personal is political, Andas Michael Jackson sang one time,

(01:07:04):
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(01:07:45):
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