Broncos vs. Cardinals RECAP! Biggest Takeaways & Surprises

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The Denver Broncos kicked off the preseason against the Arizona Cardinals — and we’re breaking down the biggest takeaways. 🏈 Who stood out and boosted their stock? 🏈 Which players struggled in their debut? 🏈 What did we learn about the Broncos’ QB battle, WR depth, and Sean Payton’s squad? We cover all the top storylines, from roster bubble battles to breakout performances, in this full Broncos–Cardinals recap. 👇 Drop your thoughts in the comments: Who impressed you the most? Who needs to step up? #Broncos #DenverBroncos #NFL #BroncosCountry #BroncosVsCardinals

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Welcome, Let's talk Broncos were we were arguing about fantasy football.
Because it's that time again. Welcome threemates to zax Segor's
Joey Richards. We just had our fantasy football draft. If
you have yours coming out, make sure that you drop
yours sleeper picks in the chat. I'd like to hear them.
I still have a couple here in the pipeline and

(00:38):
I need all the help that I can get. We're
obviously going to talk to you about the Denver Bronco's
second preseason game. Zax Sears retweet the show and we will.
We'll cover just about everything. There's a little bit of
news that we need to cover today, specifically, you know,
some injuries, some nuggets that we were given. Uh, and

(01:01):
we just want to say good night to everybody. Hello,
not good night because we're not getting rid of you,
but I did want to start the show with a
little bit of the laughs that we were having before.
It has gotten contentious between LTB. We obviously like to
keep it friendly here in the show, but Joey tried
to poach me from Zach's team to co commission his

(01:23):
and honestly, I just don't know how to feel about it,
So I think the LTB community should weigh in on this. Joey,
what do you have to say for yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
There's really not much to say. I was just giving you,
Like I threw the life raft out there, That's what
I was trying to do for you, throwing the live
raft out there. I said, bree, come in well before
you see it, come on, come to my team. And
then you decided to stick with Zach's team. When I'm
in the Super Bowl this year, you're completely forgotten. I

(01:49):
don't know you anymore. I don't know Zach. I already
don't know Zach. You are forgetting you by the second
right now. So yeah, I mean we can just look
at the rosters. I think the entire l to beach
ot would agree you should join my team. You didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Joey's pretty much Ryan Day, you know, like like Urban
Meyer did a great job building Ohio State, he had
to leave the program. Ryan Day comes in and some people,
you know, are are born on third base. You know,
they think they hit a triple, but they were born
on third base or whatever, and we'll, uh, you know,
we're we're in a rebuild operation. I inherited a team

(02:26):
from not urban Meyer, and you know, we're we're working
our way back up, and uh watch out, we're we're
going I just pulled off a ridiculous trade. I'll say
that much rebuilds looking bright, rebuilds looking bright.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
This is year three or four.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
This would be year three. I mean, we can get
into this. I inherited a very old team. I inherited
a very old team. I had two options, you know,
tear it down right then and there push my ships
and try and win right then. I'm like, this is
fantasy football, you know, like, let's let's try and win.
That did not work out. I traded for Nick Chubb.

(03:09):
I don't know if anyone's been following Nick Chubb's career,
but he's had a rough go of it.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
It's a multi quarterback league, you know. I my quarterbacks,
Kirk Cousins, Aaron Rodgers, Dak Prescott. Been a rough, rough
few years for that bunch. So I kind of blew
my win now window. And now I'm in a forced
rebuild situation. But we're we're working on it. We're working
on it, Joey, don't you worry.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Well, maybe this point gets brought up later today. But
I mean when the Broncos got new ownership, who was
bang we're back or the rebuilt is done? We're here
right now? What are we in? You're Zach's still behind? Man?
Where were rebuild? You're four?

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Hey, it's a it's a lion's rebuilt. It's a second.
It's going to take a second.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
It's gonna be it takes some time.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yes, it's the sixteen.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
We just missed the playoff last year. You know we're
not down that terribly bad.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
But we'll we'll.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
You know, hey, Leonora's sellers here. We come.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Build it from the ground up. You don't buy it.
Joey's trying to buy championships over here, and that's okay.
We still love them. Victory lap. Yes, but it does
actually paint a nice picture of Whyzac has so much
hatred in his direction, simply because I think he is
scarred and scorn from the downfall that was.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
I will say Chubb wasn't overrated until his knies, like
his legs snapped in half.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Oh Brie segue, terrible segue, but a wonderful segue, don't. Yeah,
let's jump into it. We'll start with some news the
second preseason game. Gotta fix my face. Here. A few
injury updates and rossmoves. Nick Benito having the procedure a

(04:54):
little bone spur removed is basically a precautionary procedure and
Broncos expect him to be ready by week one, so
that's good news. Nate Atkins went under the knife there,
and I think for I'm trying to remember exactly what
that tight rope surgery right on a high ankle sprain,
So not going to be ready for the regular season,

(05:15):
which sort of makes this next move make a lot
of sense. I had apprentice was signed, so let's get
your thoughts on that one real quick before we go
into the rest of it. But I think it's a
classic Payton move, right, he really values a true full back.
It suggests me that they're sticking with those packages and
they really want to hammer in short yardage sets. So

(05:38):
zooming out a little bit on this signing because I
think it's an important one. It tells us Peyton values
the fullback. Is it a good thing for this team's
offensive identity? And Joey, I'll start with you, Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I really feel like it's It isn't as hard to
find a fullback in today's navel, just because there are
so few teams that I actually even have a full
back part of the roster. So the Broncos being able
to pick up one that is good at this point
makes sense and they deploy one. So it's a good signing.
I think he's good fullback. I think it's going to
help the Broncos and what Sean Payton wants to do,

(06:10):
I just don't I don't have much on this. I
don't think it's like the Broncos add in an All
Star or anything. But for what the Broncos are trying
to do on offense, they added to it. I got
a guy that helps enforce that identity they're trying to build.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I really wonder if I don't know the Cayden Prescor
and fumble last night had anything to do with this.
I think with Nate Adkins having his high ankle spraying
issue he's expected to miss some time with that tight
rope surgery, it seemed like Cayden Prescorn could maybe get
some work. Is like that full back tight end hybrid.

(06:47):
I wonder if you know, him having that big blunder
last night made them think maybe we want to trusted
veteran in that role, and that's why we see Adam
Prentiss get at it here. I also wonder if this
is news for Michael Burton because he is just a
much apprentice, that is, is just a much younger fullback.

(07:07):
So I'm curious to see how that plays out. I
think it's good though, like Joey said, it's not anything,
you know, game changing, but he's he's a competent fullback,
and you know, Sean Paygne clearly values that to an extent.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I'm glad that that mishap happened in a preseason game.
Kind of heartbreaking for pre scoring, just as Zach seekers
was commending him for his I want to say a
little bit of a rise right and in kind of
the rank, So who's going to make this team? Who's

(07:44):
a bubble player or not? Goes ahead and fumbles the
ball into the back of the end zone, and I
guess maybe it doesn't diminish that it's I'll play. You
could tell that he was absolutely forlorn about the instance,
but it does it doesn't look good right splash plays
the great bad plays are just as loud. So we'll

(08:05):
see what happens there, it'll be interesting, Zach, I didn't look.
I didn't double check this, But on your final fifty
three man roster prediction, did you have pre Scoring on there?

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I didn't. I think he's a guy and I feel
the same way about Loner. If people want to see
that fifty three man projection, it's up on my Twitter.
I'll probably write a more proper projection for the website
after the third game. I think one thing you have
to consider is like who can they sneak through on
the practice squad, and that's going to help determine some
of it. Like, in hindsight, I wonder if I shouldn't

(08:38):
have put Ellinger on the fifty three. I think he'll
be on the fifty three when they play the Week
one game because he has to be for him to
be the emergency quarterback, and I do think they value that.
But that initial fifty three, who else is going to
sign Sam Ellinger at this point in the off season
to be their backup quarterback with like out knowing any
of the offense, It's just not going to happen. You

(08:59):
can probably cut him and sneak him through, you know,
Caden pre Scoring, same thing The Broncos might like him
as a full back tight end hybrid, but he is
a UDFA rookie who was already cut by the Lions
and like made it through waivers to the Broncos. Maybe
they claimed him off waivers, but either way, they're a
playoff team last year, they're lower down in the waiver order.

(09:20):
It's not like he's a super in demand commodity. You'd
think you can likely sneak him through. Caleb Lohner. We
know the Colts were apparently interested in him and that's
why the Broncos took him in the seventh round Originally.
He's looked so raw this preseason. That is anyone going
to spend a fifty three man roster spot on him

(09:42):
when they haven't had him at all training camp. They
just side unseen they're going to spend a roster spot
on this guy. I doubt it. That's another guy who Yeah,
the Broncos do probably want to keep him around, but
at this point in the process, those are guys who
I think the Broncos value. They also probably think they
can sneak him through it my opinion, So yeah, that
one falls into that bucket for me.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Prescoring that is, Yeah, definitely, I can see that I
was struggling with how to bring this one up, because
I think I've been pretty adamant, pretty vocal on my
already not deep concern, but maybe a piece of intuition
within myself of hoping that the O line remains relatively

(10:24):
healthy going into the season. Obviously a terrible and heart
breaking injury for Nick Gardulo. I'm pretty sure that leg
is very much so broken, carded off, going to be
placed on ir likely done for the season. I don't
really see anything past that, but it's a big depth
flow on the offensive line. He was being kind of

(10:46):
raised up there as the developmental interior guy, and this
could push the Broncos to explore outside depth or possibly
waiver claims. Right, I mean, if it's the time to
do so, I guess it's now as we look to
the Broncos making their final decisions from going from ninety
to fifty three, Joey right back to you, does this

(11:07):
seem like the loss of someone you were hoping would
be able to slot in and cover for any multitude
of reasons?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Right?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
We see what happens when the depth maybe loses a
key piece was Garjulo in your plans moving forward.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I'd be interested. I don't. I personally didn't really have
him too much in there. I mean a late round
draft pick just last year, and this was a guy
like when you're drafted that late, it's hard to get
built up. But he started off the preseason pretty strong.
In that first game. I think the Broncos are playing
with their depth in a way that I find interesting.

(11:45):
I think that they're prioritizing tackles that can kick in.
That's one thing I've noticed the last couple of years,
at least under the Sean Payton thing with Alex Pozuski
and then also Matt hurt Is getting a lot of
reps also at guard, these two guys, which it's interesting.
I think there is a way and the way they

(12:05):
would like to build it is, Okay, we have a
right tackle and a left tackle that can both kick
into left and right guard like, and then have a
backup center. I think that's the way they want to
build this thing out. And then you have Alex Forsyth
that center, so that as your backup center right now.
So I'm not looking at it like as a oh God,

(12:26):
the Broncos man what are we gonna do now, because
I don't know necessarily if he were he was in
the plans to slide in any of these positions for
this upcoming year, and then hopefully he can come back
and kick asses this next season if it's a season
ending injury, right, because he started off so well this year.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, he had a good start to things. It seemed
like maybe he would be more in the mix this season.
I don't think he would have been on my final
roster projection, but definitely a bubble guy. You know, I
was light on the offensive line in my projection, so
you know he he would have been in the mix
for that battle to be that ninth guy provide some
backup guard depth. I think you feel really bad for

(13:06):
him after this injury because hopefully he bounces back next year.
But this is a guy who was already on the
roster bubble, and this is obviously a very serious injury,
So fingers crossed for him going forward.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Absolutely never want to see that happen. I didn't want
to see any replays. It wasn't any cool. But let's
move onto the last kind of news bit I have
before we jump into the reaction to the Broncos Cardinals.
Looks like there's a little bit of a word out
of Dove that the Broncos still considering Loane Tree for
a potential future stadium. I really think this movement has

(13:42):
to be about long term identity. Sorry, Joey, I thought
you said I was muted, and I freaked out for
a second. I was like, oh God, no, I don't
want it to happen. This move has to be about
long term identity, right, or you're moving mile high from
really where the epicenter is for fans in Denver. But

(14:04):
it also kind of signals that the team is looking
about modern, revenue driven and fan experience heavy location. So
big off field storyline. What do you make of that, Zach, Like,
how would you feel if that was the location of
the Denver Broncos. Obviously Dove Valley just down the road,
it's all about county line, So how does it make

(14:27):
you feel like?

Speaker 3 (14:28):
I think that aspect would make a lot of sense.
I just I'm partial to the downtown Denver Idea, the
Burnham Yards or whatever. I think that's the one I'm
most excited about. But I'm glad it seems like the
front runners aren't out by DA That was always the
idea I was least excited about. And you know, I
think Loane Tree would be good, but mainly I'm just

(14:50):
I'm excited with the direction things are trending now. Hopefully
it stays downtown. I think it's always cool to kind
of have the teams and the stadiums in like the
heart of the city. But I think Lone Tree would
be a pretty good second option.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I think I think something that like the Cardinals kind
of laid the blueprint with us as far as like putting,
to my knowledge at least laid the blueprint of putting
a stadium outside of where it should be right and
the Capitol, and then also like building it up around
the stadium. Now they I mean what they did was

(15:25):
they built the stadium and then they own everything around
the stadium as well, and they've put like a system
into where it's fun down where the Cardinal Stadium is
as well, Like they have two different places they can go,
you know, like there's a bunch of bars down there,
there's a bunch of fun sports environment type things down
where the Cardinal Stadium is. And I could see the

(15:46):
Broncos looking at that model and being like, yeah, this
is probably the best way for us to do it
because not only or financial decision, not only do we
get our brand new stadium in with all of the
amount of probably had a much cheaper because they'll just
plot of land is gonna be really expensive in Denver
compared to everywhere else. And then but also in that thinking,

(16:07):
hey I can buy the land around it too, and
I can build other businesses around here. Like that to
me is like if I were looking from the Waltons perspective,
would make the most sense. Now me as a broadness fan,
I would like it in downtown Denver too, don't move it.
But hey, it's just two different ways to look at
it there, So I could see it in any of

(16:30):
these areas mentioned. I don't have any preference if it's
not in downtown Denver where it would be, as long
as it's kind of close, Like I think, if it's
in the premises, it's all the same to me because
I know what they're trying to do. They're gonna build
it up around the stadium.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah. Absolutely, there's a ton of room for a super
Walmart directly in that same neighborhood. Before we continue on,
Paul Shaffer has a question, which is the keyword of
the day. Get your mail bag questions ready and drop
them in the comments after you watch today's video, because

(17:07):
you'll have one coming at you here from Let's Talk
Broncos very own Zack Seegers maybe around Thursday, Zak blink
twice if that's correct.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, gonna get those back rolling again. I'm sorry it's
been crazy over at KAE, but we're up and rolling now.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Oh, Zach is so important that he gets to post
the game day for the games, and he therefore doesn't
have all this time for us anymore. Oh, Paul says,
Burnham Yards for sure. Yeah, I get it. I get
I'm not a big downtown person, lone tree. I could
maybe walk there. So I don't know, guys, would you
trade Benito for Trey Hendrickson? Obviously reports coming out that

(17:47):
he's looking for a trade, So big question that every
team will be asking themselves is do we need him?
Where does he fit in? How does that look on
this defense? And I don't know, guys, I think I
want to stay put. I know, I know it sounds crazy.
So the same conversation with the Micah persons, right, what
are you willing to give up what it's not the
same player. Don't quote me in that way. I'm just

(18:08):
saying the conversation is what are you giving away and
what are you getting back? What's that investment look like?
And I don't think I'm too bought in on the
idea that Nick Benito can't be improved upon, but I
do like the development in the direction that it's headed.
So I don't know who I started with first last time,
but Zach, I saw you kind of moving around. They're
shaking your head. How do you feel about that? And honestly,

(18:28):
I think it would take more capital than it's worth.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, I would be so happy just sticking with Benito.
I think Hendrickson's like four or five years older, which
I think is really the biggest factor in this. I
think they were comparable players last year. I would give
Hendrickson the edge, but Benito's is still a sending player.
And I also think beyond that, like either of these guys,
Both these guys are going to get big money deals.

(18:52):
Hendrickson is probably more expensive at least as things stand
right now, and there's a much I don't know if
it's much greater, because I guess Benito. The production is
a little uncertain. He hasn't proven it as much, but
I guess it's very likely that there's age based decline
on that Trey Hendrickson deal that the last year or

(19:13):
two he's not the same player he was when he
signed it, and that's I don't think the same concern
with Nick Benito. Also for as like, oh he's only
done it for one year, and there's that big concern.
I keep going back to two years ago when like
on a personat basis, you know, you look at pass

(19:34):
rush productivity rating which like boils down, sacks, pressures, all
that on a personat basis to one easy simple number.
You look at that and pass rush win rate in
both categories. He was like top seven, top eight in
the league two years ago. So he's looked like this
elite pass rushing presence for a few years now. I

(19:55):
would bank on his youth and trajectory developmental trajectory at
this point.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
I also think there's just like a something too like okay,
there's I actually have two points here. I don't think
the Bengals would do this because if they're not paying
Trey Hendrickson, it's not just like we don't like Trey Hendrickson.
It's that we just don't want to pay anybody type things.
So if they're not trying to pay Trey Hendrickson like that,
they're not trying to play pay Nick Benito like that, right,
So they're not doing that one one. The other part

(20:22):
about this is from the Broncos perspective, and I think
from the Bengals perspective, you don't see any of these
one for one trades running back for running back, defensive
end for defensive end trades like or even really player
for player trades very often, because, like, I know what
Nick Benito looks like in my system in Denver right now,

(20:44):
with Vance Joseph and everything we have going on, I
don't know what Trey Hendrickson looks like in that, and
it offers more downside. There's more downside to it, because
I need's a new environment, new scheme. What are they
asking of him? What did Nick Benito and how did
he succeed in the scheme. Football is very complex. I
don't think you can just do these one for one trades,
put people in different systems and stuff like that and

(21:06):
expect comparable or the same production as what you got
from the guy before. I don't think that's how it works,
so I wouldn't do it. I think you if you
trade Nick Benito, it's got to be like for the
Mica Parson, who's just a free show. Like that's what
it's got to be. It can't be Trey Hendrickson, Nick
Baronnito or we're sitting there. I don't know, you know,

(21:27):
it just offers too much downside.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, Joey, I'm glad that you brought that up because
I have often thought, well, if you take a player
and you place them into a system, there's no way
that it's the ideal circumstances that you need them to
succeed or have the kind of efficiency that they had
in previous circumstances. I don't like the idea that you
can just plug and play players because coaching is different. Obviously,
scheme is different, but there's a whole lot of things
that go into it than just a player being dropped

(21:50):
into a team and hoping that he makes an immediate
impact and or different.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
So, yeah, it's basketball trades. Get that in people's heads,
like it it's true. Well, it's like I could put
Kevin Durant on any of the thirty teams the NBA,
easy to be Kevin Durant, that's not the same in
the NFL. Who remembers Josh Norman going from the Panthers
where he was unreal to Washington where it was like, Okay,

(22:14):
yeah he's cool. Like that happens or nomnia ospin wah right,
another cornerback from the Raiders to the super team Eagles
fell off a cliff. It doesn't work the same. Like
there's circumstances and it's the ultimate team sport. Everyone helps
each other out and whatever you're tasked with can really
propel you or have you tank.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Cavante. Caldwell says, I'd argue that Vance gets past rushing
upside out of any player. I like it. Oh, he
followed up with based on how much he blitz this. Yeah,
I guess I could see that. We've seen and talked
about Vance Joseph's ability to take players and kind of
elevate them within his system. But I'm not sure that

(23:01):
you could count on it being a one via one
Like I don't think you could say this necessarily that
it would be because it's Trey Hendrickson, He's going to
get the most out of him, and therefore it will
be more production than a Nick Benito. I think at
least is where we were coming from it. That's that's
my stance on it.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
And you couldn't drop Hendrickson like you can drop Benito,
which I do.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Think is something exactly what I mean.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, Yeah, cool, awesome, guys. I want to I'm want
to jump into the preseason two. I kind of just
assumed that there was going to be no starters playing whatsoever.
But obviously as we kind of parse together what the
duck chart is going to look like and Sean Payton
decides who is running back two May and three is
going to be, I think there's this conversation of who

(23:47):
is a starter or who's a one. You know, however
you want to dice this up. But we did see
Evan ingram plane, which thank goodness because what a showing
he gave us. But also there's still a lot to
be worked out when it comes to who's going to
make the team, who's going to be where, and who's
going to be leading the charge. I kind of want
to break this into a couple of different things. We
can give a biggest takeaway first, and I want to

(24:10):
say this Broncos defense continues to look away ahead of schedule,
not even in comparison to the offense. I don't think
we need to say that they're looking better than It's
been a little bit of a slow start, and I'll
have a question for that for you guys in here
in just a little second. But the aggressive lets they
look great, good communication in the secondary. I love that
the depth players are flashing, particularly at inside linebacker and cornerback,

(24:34):
because those are positions of need. All the time, those
younger guys were looking great. And then offensively, I think
the timing and consistency, they sort of remain a work
in progress for everybody, but I think that's going to
change a little bit. We did see a struggle with
Bonix in the preseason game one, but Jared Stidham was
lighting it up. So then you start asking yourself, okay,

(24:56):
it's just going to take some time to click. And
then it opened up a ton of questions about who's
going to be on the team as far as wide
receivers go. Are they going to keep six or seven?
The run game looked more stable in week one, which
is encouraging. So Joey, in reaction to my biggest takeaway.
Do you think the defense is ahead of the offense.
Is that a good or bad signer? Do you not

(25:17):
believe in kind of that how that gets set up?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, I think that's typically true, Like just having followed
training camps and stuff in the past, usually the defense
beats up in the offense early digs a little longer
for the offense to catch up. I do just also
think that the defense, the Broncos defense, is more talented
than the Broncos offense. I also think that's true as well. Yeah,
so I think it's gonna be hard for the offense

(25:42):
to catch up to the defense. As a matter of fact,
if the Broncos offense catches up to what I expect
from this Broncos defense this next year, we're talking about
Super Bowls, right, So I don't know if that will
necessarily go that way. But yeah, I mean there was
a lot to take away from that game. And you
were brought up the defense and atomics in the chat,

(26:03):
and he's bringing up Jonah Ellis. This is a this
is a guy f wise, Jonah Ellis, Man, is he
gonna be really good for the Broncos. He's really good?
Is it is a pure pass rusher. I think that's
what we all kind of expected of him coming in
the NFL. I thought he was a better run defender
than consensus, but I think even me I'm shocked at

(26:26):
how good of an edge he sets out there. He
blew up a run yesterday, just setting the hardest edge ever,
and it's like, man, if you can consistently do that,
that's what we're talking about, Jenna Elis. We need that,
and then just talk about how much of a luxury
it is. Guys. I'm not saying Johnny Barron's not gonna
play this year because he's gonna play, he might as
well be a starter or anything like that, but I think, uh,

(26:51):
I think it is a luxury sitting back and being like, hey,
our first round pick isn't necessarily a guy that I'm
putting all the way to the world on. You have
to be good for this defense to be good. I
don't think I'm doing that, and I just not to
say Johddy Baron won't do that this year, but it's
just shows how much of a luxury it is that

(27:12):
the Broncos are in a spot where they can so
it's just a lot of an exciting stuff. Shout out
to jonnah Ellis. I had to throw his name out there.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
I just if we're talking about we can get into
the jah Day Baron thing, because that's one of my
I don't know, like kind of disappointment dis really in
the game, and not that it's the end of the world,
but I guess here's where I'm at with it. The
whole case for drafting Jade Baron in the first round

(27:43):
in the top twenty picks, despite it very obviously not
being in need, was like, this is one of the
more special talents in the draft and we just can't
pass it up, which I think is a very valid justification.
But I think now if he had already beaten out
McMillan for that starting spot and was starting in the

(28:04):
nickelcome week one, I think there's a lot less doubt
about whether or not that's coming to fruition or there's
like no doubt if that's coming to fruition or not.
It's like, thing, you went up against a very qualified
starter already right off the bat, and you won the
starting job. You look like that special prospect the Broncos
deemed you to be to justify that top twenty pick.

(28:27):
If he doesn't immediately ear in that starting job, not
that it's like, oh my god, he's a buster. Oh
my god, it's so concerning, but it I don't it's
not checking the box and it's not exing it out either,
But I think it's leaving it unchecked for now, and
I think that's not ideal. It's again, not the end

(28:47):
of the world. He could start week two and be awesome.
Like I want to be very clear about what I'm
saying here, but if he had already beaten out Ja
Kwon McMillan, it's like, Okay, yes, he looks like what
Broncos told us he was. To this point, he hasn't
looked like it yet. That doesn't mean he won't be.
I like what we saw in joint practices. I like
what we saw in the preseason games. But I'm hoping

(29:10):
he checks that box sooner other than later.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, I think the way that Zach gets a response
out of us. Sorry, Joey, I'll let you go. I
just need to kind of key in on this because
it's almost like, man, that's the worst thing I've ever
seen dot dot dot yet, and so I'm always like,
wait a second, hold on, But you're right because there
is this level of expectation that you have. I think
that was still my reaction to bo Nicks in preseason one,
right like there was a little bit of a deflated

(29:34):
sense of it was like deflating a balloon almost there's
this highly anticipated effect that you were hoping to have.
But I'm glad that you clarified that because I do
feel like he's still flashing some high level playmaking. I
think on that jonah Lls rush Jadi was right behind him,
and he's quick and so strong tackling effort that I
like to see. And I think that there's going to

(29:55):
be some question marks on the coverage consistency and it's
going to remain a fool point. But I think he's
talented and I think that they're still like I think
there's just a lot of hope and uh expectation, and
I think why maybe that's why it's mirroring back at
you and I and I just want to say that
I hear you, and I think that there is a

(30:17):
ton of room for improvement. Joey. Sorry for cutting you off.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah where I where I No, No, you didn't cut
me off. I was cutting new off for you. But
I think where I just disagree with you, Zach, is
there's like a tone of disappointment in there. The disappointment
would come if Jaqwan McMillan wasn't a good football player.
The Broncos drafted a nickel cornerback knowing they had a
nickel cornerback. So it's not like I can It doesn't

(30:42):
mean that like it's it's there shouldn't be disappointment. I
don't think it's just saying I want the VET right
now for this time when the VET is a good
football player, Like that's why I don't have an issue
with it. If it was replacing, I don't know. I mean,
the Broncos have had some bad dbs in the past,
and the first rounder was like, Okay, it's not time

(31:03):
to panic yet. He's a rookie, but you know it
is leaving the box unchecked there because he can't beat
out so and so. But it's Jaquan McMillan, who I
saw on the outside of preseason game one, all like
five nine of him making a hell of a play
on the ball, and it sounds like this entire training
camp he's been getting interceptions and making plays on the

(31:25):
ball and stuff like that. So I don't look at
it as like a disappointment. I'm not even looking at
it as Another thing you mentioned was hopefully he does
check that box soon. I guess I could be perceiving
soon than you're meeting to say it. But like, honestly,
that probably would mean Jaquan McMillan's not doing his job,

(31:45):
which means Johnny Barn has to go take it. I
think Johnny Barn could be in a limited role in
year one and still be a damn good football player,
and it's damn good draft pick, and even in a
year one make a different It's just the Broncos are
in a position where they have the luxury of taking
a defend a defender who doesn't have to take necessarily,

(32:08):
you know, eighty percent of the snaps in year one.
I still think there's a value to that. And then
going past the season, it's not about now, it's about five,
two or three, and you want to give that guy
a second contract years down the line. Is what's going
to make the Jaday Baron signing more meaningful?

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Certainly, I think that's what it ultimately comes down to.
I do think It's a mild disappointment though, because I
don't think ja Kwon McMillan's the best nickel in the league.
I think he is a surpassable nickel. I think he's
around the prime meridian, probably a little above it, probably
somewhere between like ten and sixteen. I mean, I'm not
ranking him out right now, but I don't think he's
a lead at the position. I don't think he's a

(32:48):
problem area. I think, yeah, the expectation two months ago,
and I mean, look at this show. What we were
saying about Jade barn two three months ago. Not only
was expectation he's gonna absolutely be starting at nickel, but hey,
he might even be starting on the outside too. Is
it a problem that he's not doing that yet? No,

(33:09):
I don't think so. Does it mean he's a little
behind what we were expecting of him at this juncture? Yeah,
and and and that's kind of where I'm at. I'm
not concerned, but I think it's less than what I
had hoped, I guess, is how i'd put it. And
I think I'm not saying that with any worry, But yeah,
it's a it's a mild disappointment, but you know, not

(33:32):
the end of the world.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Just last point. I think you're ranking him. That's perfect,
Like you said, ten to sixteen range. I feel like
if Johnny barn came in and started and was the
sixteenth best nickel corner, I'd be like, okay, you know,
solid rookie season. If Jakwan macmillan is the twelfth best
nickel corner this year and the sixteenth guy can't beat

(33:54):
him out, it makes sense and that's you know, that's
the only thing. And if he did start, like I said,
was the sixteenth best nickel this year, it'd be like, oh, yeah,
good start to a rookie campaign. There you're only going
up buddy, you know, about the middle of the pack.
And now if he sucks, that's an issue. It's like
john a, why didn't you beat him out? But I

(34:15):
just haven't seen that.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, maybe a little bit of a growth in development
phase here. Not going to be able to really grate
it up till the end of the season. So I
look forward to it because wouldn't that be something Also
encouraging to see that the rest of the DB's are
coming along quite swimmingly. It looks like there's going to
be some competition there. I think I see Kady mentioned
in the chat. Something we'll get into, but I do

(34:39):
want to get to Zach's biggest takeaway from the game
against Arizona Cardinals. That hit me with it.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
I don't the Broncos don't have one number two pass
catcher in this offense. They've got eight. It's ridiculous. Courland
Sutton's going to catch the most passes on this team.
I feel very confident in that fact. I think maybe
Evan Ingram is in his own tier at number two.

(35:07):
I could totally see that. I think there's a very
good chance that between two and again, like eight, it's
very similar. Evan Ingram RJ. Harvey. I think at this point,
I think he's gonna have a pretty big rule in
the offense. I loved what we saw out of him.
Can talk more about that in a second. But those
two and then oh, I guess it's seven I was miscounting,

(35:29):
and then the five wide receivers after Sutton, I think
are all going to like, I mean, Valley, maybe he
gets moved or something, but good goodness, Pat Bryant looks awesome.
I love how he's moving out there. He's attacking the
ball great. He had four catches, every single one moved
the sticks and three of them were like ten plus
yard catches when it was like an eight yard catch

(35:51):
on third and seven. I mean, that's just it's nice
to see that, like clutch nature. He's a good route runner.
I think that's translating. For his college tape and after
the catchability, it was was always sneaky good, I think
that's translating. I'm I'm really hyped on that. Troy Franklin,
my god, two three months ago, talk about like being
in a different place two three months ago to where

(36:13):
we are now. I was out on Troy Franklin. Like
we'd have comments in the chat like, oh, what do
you think about Troy Franklin this year? And in my head,
I was like, oh, man, look I might get cut,
Like I don't like, I had no ex if he
is on the team, he's wide receiver. Six. If you
told me if Zach came back from a Dolorean from
twelve months in the future and told me that Troy

(36:33):
Franklin's the best receiver on the Denver Broncos, and it's
pretty clear cut. I mean, I wouldn't be that surprised.
I would still bet on it being Courtland Sutton. But
what we're seeing out of Troy Franklin and I own
it's a training camp, preseason setting. We need to see
it in regular season and then consistently in the regular
season is not just going to be finished after week one.

(36:54):
But me, like last year, he was always great at separating.
It was just he got knocked off his route like
crazy and he couldn't catch the ball. And now he's
not getting knocked off his route, he's still separating like crazy.
He's catching the ball and making hard catches at a
really high clip all training camplong too. He was a
reliable set of hands. And because you're seeing that better

(37:15):
physicality throughout the route, well, that translates after the catch
point too. One of the knocks on him in college, Like,
the physicality was really big throughout his route running and
at the catch point and everything. But then even when
he had the ball in his hands, he was a
limited yack threat because arm tackles took him down super reagularly.
I think you can maybe explore more of his yack
potential if he continues to grow into this. I just

(37:38):
like that has me fired up this year. I'm expecting
some pretty lofty things out at Troy Franklin. Now I'm
having to refer to my notes. Evan Ingram. You mentioned
him on the topic of pass catchers. My god, he's
barely played for the Broncos and he's got sixty receiving yards.
It's going to be a game changer to have that
in the receiving room. And then guys who I thought

(38:00):
have a chance to make the roster. Bre was loving
Joaquin Davis and Courtney Jackson at a training camp practice
she attended that I was at and I was like, man,
I don't think anyone's beating out these top six, you know,
I think there's potential they could maybe trade de von
Volat for a draft pick and then maybe Courtney Jackson
or Joaquin Davis does make that initial fifty three man roster.

(38:24):
So I just I don't know about like the like
they don't have a t Higgins or a Jamar Chase,
and it like maybe Suttons the te Hggs, but you know,
they don't have that like whoa, Like they've they've got
crazy studs all over the place. I think they've got
a lot of depth of like really good contributors, and

(38:44):
I'm excited to see how it comes together, because that's
also kind of what Peyton wants. He wants his you know,
spice cabinet of different options that he can deploy in
the right moment, and I'm excited to see how that
comes together.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Zach. To your point in my notes, you know something
about John A. Barn about how they don't have to
count on We just went over that. I have something
about the running backs, which I'll hit on next. And
then my third point, my third bullet point here is
Troy Franklin was kidnapped. That's my third bullet point. This

(39:17):
is a completely different player than what I saw last year.
You said the hands. Another aspect of this was the
guy could not track the ball in the air at all.
It was unbelievable. Last year. It drove me insane. And
it's the main reason why, I mean, if you wanted
to call me a Troy Franklin hater, I was a
Troy Franklin hater this all last time. I was, I was,

(39:38):
I was talking crazy. I was I was saying, he's
an athlete, I don't know about the receiver stuff, and boy,
is he making me eat my words. Right now. He
totally is. You brought up the points about the hands
first prease in game. I mean it wasn't like a
you know, like a circus catch, but catching a ball
over the middle, completely extended outside his friend catching it,

(40:00):
that was a catch. I don't think he's making it
last year, this, this prior game, the one we just saw.
Now he's going over the top of people and making catches.
Who the hell is this Troy Franklin. Who does Sean
Payton have wearing this number eleven Jersey? I know number sixteen.
I don't know number eleven. I don't know this version.

(40:22):
We look different Troy Franklin out there, and I'm excited
about it. I'm pumped up because this brings a whole
different level to the Broncos receiving core that I wasn't
even anticipating. I didn't even have written down as up.
Oh maybe this can happen, and that bumps the Broncos up,
you know. But the Troy Franklin development is what I
didn't even see, and it looks like it will bump

(40:43):
them up. I think it does translate to the regular
season as well. I do. These are catches that are
just like it's still going through full contact. I think
the Troy Franklin I saw last year struggling in preseason
the same way he's struggling in regular season, the same
way he struggled in training camp. It was literally finding

(41:03):
the ball in the air, moving to the ball, and
then catching it like he had a very difficult time
out it. And this year he looks so much more polished.
It's super exciting. I'm stoked about the wide receiver room
right now.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
It is, and it's so tremendous to see that there's
a ton of competition. It's not necessarily that you know
exactly how this's just going to work itself out. I
want to say that I did highlight Troy Franklin is
the individual for the Denver Broccus who had to have
that breakout performance this year. And you know, there's a
part of me that felt like it was silly to

(41:40):
say it because I was in the same boat when
we had witnessed him struggle to the links that he
had with so much of an anticipation of it. Being
a different player now is far exceeding those expectations. So
I'm right there with you, guys. Whatever he did in
this offseason was one hundred percent what he needed to do,
and I look to see how that translates, because obviously

(42:00):
we don't know until we see it in the regular season,
and I hope it is a happy and long twenty
twenty five with lots and lots of yards. I did
see somebody ask who Courtney Jackson is. I just want
to say another one of my I hope he makes
this team. I have been slandered with a bunch of

(42:21):
just well, get your hopes ready to dash here. As
everyone tells me Michael Bandy and Courtney Jackson won't be
making this team. Well, it looks like Courtney Jackson had
a little bit of a secret he was hiding there.
He's quite the return specialist, so the Broncos are probably
going to look to utilize him as a multi versatile player.
He was able to show not only his speed there,

(42:42):
but I think he's going to be a welcome addition
on the offense when needed. I'm looking for Sean Payton
and the Broncos to really try to change things up
here when it comes to just how the offense fluctuates
and all the different looks that they're going to be
throwing in you know, last year it was a words.
They were all thrown together, play calls were super long.

(43:03):
It looks like he's simplifying that some sort, But I
think that means he's making room for there to be
a whole lot of options for bow Nicks going into
his sophomore season. Zach, I see you highlighted he's throwing
blocks and catching over the shoulder through contact. Is that
a nice S. Franklin compliment to you?

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, I just wanted to highlight because, like the contested
catches thing is crazy. But man, if you told like
I don't think I would have believed someone telling me, Hey,
Troy Frienkl's going to be laying really nice blocks after
the catch like downfield. That's crazy. And one thing that
I am a believer in, I think one of the

(43:41):
best indicators of at least like team culture on the
offensive side of the ball is how your wide receivers
are blocking. Watch the forty nine ers, those wide receivers
block their asses off. Watch the Rams, watch the Lions,
Watch like any of the best offenses in the league.
The receivers block their asses off. And it's like, I,

(44:04):
I really it is maybe a silly I don't know,
intangible thing, but I really buy into it that it
like reflects the culture of the offense. And I did
not mean to click that Mike Pen's common. I don't
know how that happened.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Sorry, I haven't seen you in for a bit, shut out.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
But uh totally lost my trade of thought. I just yeah,
I'm excited about the team.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, I love that. That's a great way to end
the sentence.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
It's gonna translates so well during the audio.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah. No. And then even the blogging back the Dray
Franklin's blogging in preseason Game one, he had a he
had a play where he was almost like an extended
tight end and they brought him in. He's making blocks
in the box. It's like, what the And this is
what I'm talking about. Troy Franklin's kidnapped. We don't know
where he is. There should be a man hut. But
my big takeaway one of them. I mean, there's a

(45:02):
lot of things I can hit on here. The guy
didn't even get them any carries, but it's one that
I think affects the Broncos the most, and that's R. J.
Harvey in the vision right, there was a lot of
concern leaving game one, Hey, this guy's bouncing it out
a lot. I was watching it live and I thought
the same thing. Watch it back. Didn't think as much

(45:23):
of it as I did initially, But in this game,
working really well in between the tackles, Like if you
guys watch that touchdown run. The way he was able
to squeeze they squeeze and find a hole in the
interior and then get into the end zone was really impressive.
These are things you're looking for for r J. Harvey.
He's gonna be a big part of this team. I

(45:45):
don't think you can bank on JK. Dobbins to be
a lead back for the Broncos this next year. RJ.
Harvey is gonna have to be that guy. So seeing
the vision on display was really promising, and this is
always something he's had if. R J. Harvey's vision was
really good, but did also get a little uh. I

(46:05):
don't know what it is, what the word is, but
he did want to look for the home run. He
would stay in that interior. He had all the ability
to run in the interior, but a lot of it
was I'm kind of standing here, I'm shuffling, I'm waiting
for the whole defense to collapse so I can bounce
it out. That was the concern I had for him.
So to see him work the middle, the interior of

(46:28):
the offensive line there was was really promising.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Great runs too, Like that touchdown run is really legit.
I'm I'm excited about Harvey. I want to see it
in a real regular season game. I think before long
it's that and Dobbins has injury problems, but before long,
I think you're not going to be able to keep
him off the field. I think he and Franklin are
quickly going to assert themselves into larger rules, you know,

(46:54):
like the the Bronco Broncos need running back help, and
I think Harvey's going to give them what they need.
Their they need some like to solve their slot receiver
log jam. And I think Franklin looking like a legit
outside dude, which again I never would have seen coming
based on last year, really helped solve that. I think

(47:15):
Sutton and Franklin now kind of set themselves up to
the and Harvey set themselves up to kind of stand
apart in those rooms.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Absolutely, And I think it's really important to note that
that's the complete opposite of what we were talking about when
it came to the running game here for the Denver
Broncos last season. Even early in the preseason, I think
there was a question mark heading into how this's is
going to look what it was the overall temperature check
on the room, and I think we're finally being able
to parse that together. The final verdict is basically, he

(47:47):
delivered on early opportunities and it's efficient, it's impactful. You
get a couple of touches, and you're able to really
just illustrate a lot of readiness for a pretty signific
can't roll on what this offense wants to do because
you're going to be trying to take as much pressure
off of Bonicks' his shoulders as possible. We saw what

(48:08):
Bonix was able to do when he had to sling
the team on the back and sort of carry them
towards those ten wins, right, and now you want to
take as much of that off of his role as
possible so that when he is able to make some
big plays that it's not just from him having to
have a run game. So you know, if he maintains
that instinctive verse, I think it's going to be really

(48:28):
cool as he refines all the patients and vision that
he has, and he's going to be a reliable running
back for this team moving forward. If that seems to
pan out and translate as we move into the regular season.
Tim Campbell says, I'm team Joey. Not sure what that means,
but maybe he started the show late and he rewounds,

(48:48):
so he wanted me to join your fantasy league. If
you're big on RJ. Harvey, we are, make sure that
you're looking to swoop him up in the drafts that
you have.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
It means he's uh a big werewolf guy.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Oh right, Team Zach is the vampires. Then, okay, all right,
I'm glad that I cleared all of that up for
everyone listening, and no one is confused, are guys? I
don't know what's happening ever, any surprises from from from

(49:27):
you guys? Terrible segue. Not really sure how to how
to swoop that back in, but maybe we could talk
about who's earning themselves a longer look. We talked about
maybe some surprise candidates there, But I just want to
wrap up this little segment with was there anything else
that shocked you? Were you expecting something and he didn't
get it. Uh, Joey looks confused. I'm gonna start with

(49:47):
Zach because he seems to like this idea.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Yeah, you know what, I'm gonna do my classic thing
of lumping a bunch into one bucket. Here. How much
good news we got from the Edge Rushers. That surprised me.
My god, Mike Cliss telling us that it seems like
a Nick Benito deal is going to get done before
the start of the season. That's sick. I definitely trust
it coming from Mike Cliss. That would be a big win.

(50:11):
Getting that in before the Trey Hendrickson and Micah Parsons deal.
That'll save the team money. I just players as good
as Nick Benito do not leave their team in free
agency anymore, barring extreme circumstances. They're going to keep him
around here. It's just where does that price point ultimately settle?
I bet it settles north of thirty I bet I

(50:33):
bet if they wait a year, it would settle north
of thirty five. So lock him up, get it done.
I think that would be a big w. And then
the dudes just having great games. Jonah Ellis looks like
he should. He could start for a lot of teams.
Like he should have been a first round pick last year.
He's looking absolutely ready to break out this year. I
don't know how much he's going to get on the field.

(50:54):
Same thing with Kean Robinson. He was making big plays,
had some run stuff, had a two big pressures, kind
of single handedly ended one of the Cardinals drives with
a run stuff on second nun which set up a
third and long. And then he had a great pressure
that forced to check down well short of the sticks
on third and long. I just my god, They're going
to be sending waves and waves of dudes off the edge.

(51:18):
What else. And Dendre Tillman even had a great game.
I've got some good notes for him. He had a
big tackle for loss. I mean, kind of ridiculous to
me that Mike Clay or whatever ranked them as the
twenty third best edge group in the league. This is
a top ten edge group in the league, without doubt.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, I think for me as like a surprise, and
I don't even know it's a surprise to me. I
guess Chris Abrams drain looks really really good. I mean,
he stepped in and looked good last year. But I
don't think these guys development always is straight up. It's
not like Madden right where these guys are getting two
overall after every season when you do the franchise Bud,
That's how the NFL works. And to see Chris Abram

(51:57):
Drane go out there and look really good this preseason,
I mean it just adds to the depth. Like we
at the beginning of the show, we went through the
whole conversation of yeah, Jaquan McMillan and jadd A Barron,
you even forget to throw Chris Abrams train in that mix.
And then Jakwan McMillan is also getting work on as
an outside corner. Like the depth in that dB room

(52:18):
is so awesome. I remember when I had to hide
myself up on Bosby. Do you guys remember Bosby during
the VIC Fangios days? Like we, I was hyping myself
up on him with the broncos Man every year during
that VIC Fangio era, we were down three or four corners.
I felt like it was ridiculous. So to actually have

(52:41):
some guys in the room this year, you can play
guys in different positions. The guy goes down. I mean
even this last year the Jerry Judy game let us
up Levi Wallace feel like I was playing with him
in Madden No. Five, right, So I'm just happy that, like,
we actually have some guys out there right now, I do.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Have some guys. Sorry, I was distracted by the chat.
I thought Zach was going to jump in there for me,
but he didn't. He failed me, and we are no
longer on speaking terms biggest surprises, biggest takeaways. I guess
it leads us to what are we looking for going forward.
I'm not really too worried about the Saints preseason three game,
but we do have to sort of think about what

(53:22):
lies beyond that game and even longer. Is there anything
that you have your eyes on? Because guys, for me,
it's still offensive line depth. So you lose one, you
don't have a plan in place, how is it going
to look? Who are they going to pull up? I
know we already talked about to start the show, but
that really is my whole thing. I'm going to be
harping on at the entirety of this season because at
the end of the day, if you're not protecting bo

(53:42):
and you are not able to well, I don't know,
just protect the run game either. I think that you're
in a sort of state of affairs and it can
all crumble from there. But also I want to know
what that identity is here for this Denver Broncos offense
moving forward? Are they going to lean in on consistent
see is that going to build up? We obviously cannot
tell right now because we are not in the regular season,

(54:04):
and I just don't want to see a slow start.
So are you going to lean on flashes or are
you going to build consistent consistency when it comes to
this offense? I cannot and I cannot stress this enough.
I am waiting to see what that looks like when
it's all put together, because when you see I don't know,
throwing Courtney Jackson out of the backfield for that jet sweep,

(54:25):
and I just get so excited to say, what if,
what can you do with the entire roster of guys?
Because that's what the Broncos have right now, right And
I know where optimism leads you. It leads you to
disenfranchised disappointment where you want to stop going to games
and watching the team. We've been there, We've locked. Yeah,

(54:47):
Like when Drew Locke was the quarterback for the Denver Broncos,
didn't feel very good, and I don't want to be
back to the Brandon Allen, Joe Flacco, check Kelly. We're
just not there, okay, but we need to see more
and we need to get out of that rink because
once you get there, once you take that leave and
take that step, you don't want to be grounded by

(55:09):
the what ifs. Right that that window has opened up,
So what does it look like moving forward? And how
do they, I guess, take advantage of the opportunity that
presents itself, which is not only a franchise quarterback. We're
past that conversation, right. We know that you can work
with Bonix and build around them. So who do they choose?
How many wide receivers? What does the running back room
look like? And are they setting up the appropriate Uh?

(55:33):
You know what, at the end of the day, if
you can throw in guys like Davis Webb and Lombardi
to play call and you get the results that you
got in the first two preseason games, I'd say they're
on track. I'd say they have something cooking up. But
I don't know about you, guys. What are you looking forward?
When you're moving forward?

Speaker 2 (55:50):
What am I looking for? What do you mean by that,
exactly what.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Do you want to see from the Denver Broncos when
as we move on through pre season Game three, Week one,
and maybe even just in general.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Okay, sorry, I just need a little more clarification.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
It's fine, I don't know how to drive a program,
and I yes want to do this. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I don't want to be around anymore. I'm going with
the safety room. I want to see someone. But Devon
Key snagged that fourth safety job. We all saw how
painful that was last year. When Devon Key came into
the picture, safety was supposed to be one of the
more hotly competitive or contested. Excuse me, can't battles not

(56:40):
so much the starting job. We know that's Brandon Jones
and Andfanga, But behind that you would PJ lockoff his injury,
Devon Key, you know, trying to hold onto that number
four job. But then J L. Skinner and Key Dron
Smith and they just signed Sam Franklin Junior and LARRYN.
Turner yell is back from the being on the pup
list all last season. And now it's just that none

(57:03):
of them are taking Javon Key's job. He's been the
number four safety the entire training camp, at least that
I've seen all throughout the preseason games. It seems like
he slotted in alongside PJ Lock there, and we know
what that option is. I'm sure the Broncos are going
with the best available option. But if that's Devon Key,
we know what that means. It's not very great. If

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it's Sam Franklin or someone else, that means someone surpassed
that and that would be I think a nice development.
So that's what I want to see over this last
week of practice in preseason.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Fair, that's fair. I think that's a big one for
the Broncos. Is what's happening at safety? I think the
other one and the most fun thing to watch. I
felt like both games is just like keeping up with
the running backs from beginning to end, Like where are
they all lined up on the depth charter? We're going
to see any movement going forward as far as where
guys play when they play in the game or is

(57:58):
it kind of just set how it is? Is there
anyone pulling away from the rest of the crowd in
this last game, Like does Tyler Bidet have a huge
game and it makes them really hard to cut like,
what's happening there in the running back room? Because I
do think there's a chance, I mean, any of these
running backs that end up on the roster get some

(58:19):
blaying time. I do think there's gonna be opportunity for that, especially,
like I mean, running backs, one of those positions. Guys
get banged up all the time, and the Broncos happen
to just sign one of them too, that is like
the most banged up ever. So like it's a really
good shot that the fourth guy, if you the Broncos
are looking to bring on four running backs, the fourth
guy might get pet this year? Right? Which one is that?

(58:42):
Is that Blake Watson? Is that Tyler Bidet? Is it
Jett McLoughlin is otter cast? To me? Like, I think
there's some names out there. I don't think it's utter custody.
By the way, that's a take, I think a popular
take at this point. But the rest of the room,
how does that shakeout? And then how many do you
even keep after that?

Speaker 1 (59:01):
I love it, Joey, thank you for eventually getting there.
I appreciate it. No, it's okay, said, I give Zach
all of the problems in the world, and I had
to do it to you because you're the next guy up.
Paul Schaeffer is asking about grades. All I see is
my initial up on the screen. I'm lost, So we're
just gonna move on. We're talking about Teddy Bridgewater. I

(59:24):
don't know why is this happening. Got to see him
play though there for the Buccaneers. Congrats to Teddy. I
hope he does well, but not as a Broncos. It's okay,
all right, let's get out of here. Look forward to
seeing you both when we're back for the preseason three
recap next week. You will have Altitude Adjustment back at
you on Tuesday night and then full filled read with

(59:47):
Frankie and Robbie, which I know you all love because
we love it too. We'll be back on Friday breaking
down all the film and all the tape. But remember, everybody,
we're just the let's Talk Broncos crew. We're not actually real,
but we appreciate you hanging out with us and having
a chat about the Denver Broncos. We'll see you next

(01:00:08):
week or yeah, it'll be next week because we'll be
next Sunday. I definitely know what's going on, all right, guys,
We'll see you later. Carter's got it right here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Just again. We didn't make any jokes about this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Oh man, we totally missed our wind.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
We forgot well, just the crew yea.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Honestly, I'm gonna leave this on here so we can
get a screen grab later, because I think it's just
important to note just a crew.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Anyway, for ice schools, it's weird.