Should The Denver Broncos Bring Von Miller Back!?

#Broncos #BroncosCountry #NFL #DenverBroncos #NFLDraft #VonMiller On tonight's episode, the crew debates whether or not the Denver Broncos should bring Von Miller back, and fill holes at LB and safety. Check out the website: https://letstalkbroncos.com/ Altitude Adjustment Shop: https://altitudeadjustmentshop.com/ Catch the Let's Talk Broncos Podcast Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays on the Let's Talk Broncos YouTube, by clicking subscribe below and ringing the bell for notifications, or by searching 'Let's Talk Broncos' wherever you listen to podcasts!!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages.
I know what you're thinking, Mario, where's Pat? Well? I
have good news for you. Pat is running just a
little bit behind. But I wanted to start on time
for a change, so I figured that I would start
the show again. I know you guys got a little
bit too much of me solo last week, so I
promise it won't be too long. Oh hold on, we

(00:26):
actually have a special guest in the queue. This is
a nice little surprise. Oh my gosh, Bree Mas this
what's up? Bree? Where's Pat?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
That's not here? I'm doing the show.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Oh okay, hey, film in a move for a switcher.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I hit the budget, hit the road lights to that hiccup,
I hit the stage, leave with money.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
That's a stick up?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Is everybody sufficiently terrified? Because I know I am welcome
to altitude adjustment, and I am very excited to welcome
in bremased. This apparently something happened to Pat. And we're
not going to ask too many questions. We're not going
to indict ourselves onto anything. We are just going to

(01:21):
proceed as though everything is super normal, because it totally is, Brie.
This is a nice little surprise. How we doing tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I wouldn't ask too many questions. Also, funny story, Mario
just asked me to be my dead inside non effect self,
and Key thought that necessarily it wasn't a game to
be playing of sorts. But Mario, be careful what you
asked for.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, I guess we are going to cheot you down
this track and see how it goes, Bree. Why don't
we just get right into it, you know, no need
for introductions or semantics. Obviously, everyone in Broncos Country knows
who you are, and if they don't, well that there's
probably something terribly terribly wrong with them. But you're here

(02:13):
and that's that's fantastic and not at all a surprise
to me. Uh, I just want to get right into
the discussion. As you know, Brie, it's the Broncos off season,
and it's the time where there's a lot of there's
some dead space right in our in our area, and
there's a lot of people who are really clinging to

(02:35):
certain storylines, you know, maybe certain publications that have a
difficult time coming up with with unique ideas. Shall we
just say that? So we're just gonna kick it off
and I'm gonna I'm gonna pose the question to you.
You know, it's it's been made apparent that Taysom Hill
will likely be available to the Denver Broncos. And I

(02:57):
think everyone that's familiar with Sean Payton was that he
has a borderline unhealthy obsession with Taysom Hill. Do you
think that that is a viable option for the Denver
Broncos And is that somebody that you personally would bring
in as a Taysom Is it Taysom Hill?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
It's an interesting question, but I don't know if it
would shock me at all. I think there's like an
eighty twenty percent chance that Sean Payton makes this move
simply because the Denver Broncos are morphing into the Denver Saints,
and you got like two and a half handfuls of
ex Saints player's staff and et cetera currently infiltrating the organization,

(03:37):
and that hasn't been a bad thing so far. So
in Sean Payton, we trust, which has been the normal
adage here in Broncos country. Would it be the worst
move if Sean Payton could get one last or two
last seasons out of Taysom Hill. It's all dependent on cost.
And we know that Sean Payton was on media row
during the radio row during the Super Bowl commenting on

(04:00):
making strategic moves and being smart with the cap space
that they do have. Although I think if it was
at the right cost and Taysom Hill got to reunite
with Sean Payton, it would be the right move across
the board. I know the narratives that you're talking about
and the storylines and the buzzwords that you're alluding to.
I don't know if it's directionally the move that's a
long term scenario for the Broncos. So would it fill

(04:24):
me with excitement, not necessarily, But would it shock me? No,
not at all. And I think honestly LTB mu is
always reading the room here. I love his comment here
about Taysom Hill being a mentor to whatever tight end
the Broncos draft while playing a decent role. I think
that that's a fact, and I think there's a lot
of developmental high points to that move. I see it happening.

(04:50):
I'm not moved by it either way.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, Taysom Hill is a
He's a fun football player, right, It's like there's really
only one Taysom Hill. But the idea that he's gonna
help some sort of incoming tight end breath, I guess
I just don't see that because Zach seekers actually put
this the best way. He's listed as a tight end
because you can't just do a shrug emoji. That's really

(05:16):
what it is. Like, he plays some quarterback, he plays
some tight end, he plays some special teams. You know,
he's a again, he's a fun piece that you can
move around. He doesn't have a definitive position. But doesn't
that kind of strike you as a problem if you're,
you know, one of these people that are hoping that
he can mentor a younger tight end, Like I just
don't really see it. It's not like he's incredibly prolific

(05:39):
at the tight end position. I mean I would I
think I would rather have an Adam Troutman or Lucas
krole the best player on the Broncos roster train like
a young because we assume that they're gonna draft a
tight end, right And that was that was a really
big hole that Patrick Keyoti and I filled a couple
of weeks ago. We filled the hole of the tight

(05:59):
end and we assume that they're going to do that
in the draft, right. I think this is a really
top heavy tight end class. I think the top six,
top seven guys are you know, play from day one
and will immediately elevate that room. But harkening back to
Taysom Hill, it's like, do we really believe that he's
such a great tight end that he's gonna mentor somebody

(06:21):
like a Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren, I don't think he's
gonna be there anyway, brieb it if Tyler Warren is
somehow added to this team, can't think there's a lot
that Taysom Hill is going to be able to teach
him from a tight end standpoint.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
No, I love it, and that's where you see a lot.
I'm only familiar with Taysom Hill in the long stretch
of getting some of those tricky fantasy points there later
in the season when you're able to pick him up
off the waiver wires. So I just don't see how
it makes a large impact for the long term. And
that's where the Broncos are. They're in a time frame
the window has opened up. You make a surprise appearance

(06:57):
in the playoffs, you don't have time to sort of
pill for around, which I'm That's why I'm always on
the free agency spiel of grab the guys who are proven.
But I don't know what Taysom Hill is proven at
other than being a Like you said, it's like fanatical
for Sean Payton and I and I think that's why
Broncos Country really likes the idea. And I'm not gonna
pooh on their extravagance and they're in excitement, but I

(07:21):
just think it's kind of at the end of the road,
I swear, muse, how do you do it?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, dude, you would be uh, you would be horrified
to find out how old Brie and I am. I'm
just gonna leave it at that. Dak had an interesting question, Bries,
I'll pose this to you first. Does adding a Taysom
Hill take away from adding a Juwan Johnson per se
in free agency? Again? Juwan Johnson yet another New Orleans
Saint who has been discussed at Broncos Country at nauseum

(07:48):
because he's a former Saint and a need.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't think they're double dipping in free agency at
tight end. If anything, they're gonna go heavy in the
draft I think what's interesting with all of the position
groups that we're going to be talking about, and especially
at tight end, you want a lot of versatility there,
and I think that that's what you're looking for. I
don't think you're which is why the Taysom Hill prospect

(08:11):
is really interesting. I just don't think it's the right
move for right where the Broncos are. But yeah, it
would take away from that. I don't know if they
go vet heavy and free agency to fill that gap,
especially because they kind of really like where they're at
on the offense and specifically what they've been doing with
the tight ends. Are they flashy? No? Is it a
super sexy lineup? Absolutely not, But you are missing a

(08:33):
key component in receptions and blocking, like somebody who can
do the trifecta of the tight end position. It's just
not there. You want to find someone who has those
components while you continue to maintain what you have presently,
and you joke about a Lucas Kroll and a Troutman
and an Adkins, you don't really want to subtract and

(08:54):
think that you're going to gain per that negative. So
I would really worry about messing around too much with
the grouping itself, but adding pieces and adding young pieces
is going to be where this Broncos team probably strikes
some gold. If there was a tight end prospect out
there that I really want to grab, I think we'd
be making moves on that. But Juan Johnson is the
only one that comes to mind, and I think I

(09:15):
would rather Johnson than Hill.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, I think he's a much bigger needle mover in
terms of what you need. And I want to and
I want to address this part of the Taysom Hill
conundrum that we've that we've seen. It feels breed like
there are a lot of people operating under the assumption
that Taysom Hill is a joker. And I got to
tell you, I am so unbelievably sick and tired of

(09:40):
hearing this term. It's making me start to sour on
Nikola Jokic a little bit simply because I'm sick of
hearing the term joker. And everybody was aware that like
this joker position existed in a Sean Payton offense. But
I keep harkening it back to whose line is it anyway?
Where the measurables are made up and the position doesn't matter.

(10:02):
It's like, I think Sean Payton is really the only
person that knows truly what a joker is. And then
when he appeared on k Adams Show and said that
they needed a joker, it kind of put two things
to rest. One was that Marvin Mims is a joker,
if Marvin Mims was a joker, and not to say
that Marvin doesn't have a fantastic role etched in this

(10:24):
offense now and they finally learned how to use him
down the stretch and that was great, and I'm not
taking anything away from him, but I'm pretty sure if
Sean Payton considered Marvin Mims to be a joker, that
he wouldn't have told k Adams that we need a joker.
And the other thing that I want to put to
bed is this notion that Taysom Hill is a joker.

(10:45):
A joker isn't a positionless, morphic blob that you just
put out there and does something that you think he does.
Because Sean Payton proceeded to list i think six or
seven people from his asked that fit into that joker role.
And if you need prove that there's.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Really really no definitive role or definitive structure for like
the joker type player he had listed Jimmy Graham and
also Darren Sproles.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Jimmy Graham looks like he ate Darren Sprolls. Okay, So like,
in no conceivable realm are those two a similar type
of player outside of what apparently Sean Payton proposes is
the joker. And you know one of the players that
he didn't say was a joker when he proceeded to
list like seven guys from the Saints Taysom Hill. So

(11:40):
can we please stop pretending like a Taysom Hill is
a joker and b that when he comes here he
would fill the joker role. Sean Payton did not even
acknowledge him as a joker. And it probably because that's
just a troll thing that Sean Payton does to get
people overthinking.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Mario, you nailed it. I don't think I can put
it any better in that emphasis. But it's almost like
Sean Payton rolls up to any media extravaganza like Jigsaw
in the Saw productions, like do you want to play
a game? Because the idea that we have to then
parse through all these puzzles for an entire tenure, we've
been talking about this joker position for a while, and
I do know that it's intriguing right to the speculators

(12:25):
and the insiders alike. Everyone wants to know what individual
is filling that hole, the need for a joker, the
positional value, and the positional I did, I did say
filling a hole. I know that that's a thing. I
just want.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
It's going towhere. You're prepared to fill holes. That's very
good news.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
We are going to make shirts. Honestly, I was thinking
of renting a plane and flying it over the first
pre preseason game of the season. Yeah, I'm I mean,
they could fly anything out there. I don't know why
we can't just run that, honestly, think about the production
value of just the pr that we would get from that.
But in all honesty, Sean Payton loves to go out

(13:11):
there and say certain things that kind of leave individuals
grasping for straws. I don't think he does it accidentally.
I think it's all very much so a intentional decision
that Sean Payton makes. I feel like he's just that
he likes to think he's playing chess at all times.
Isn't a bad thing, But the joker notion has been

(13:33):
passed around Dulcich Mims, you mentioned it, who could it
possibly be? Maybe it's important that it wasn't mentioned that
it was Taysom Hill, like he's somehow flashing his cards.
But at the end of the day with the super chat,
let's go l to b mused with the dollar ninety nine.
We appreciate you, but I want to know is it

(13:54):
going to be an organic kind of assumption of that role.
It makes me think of it McMahon back in right
after the Altitude era where it became ruthless aggression, right,
and his whole spiel to the roster with someone was
going to have to step up and take that role?
Who has that ruthless aggression? I think Sean Payne is

(14:15):
also kind of meandering that idea around of who is
the joker? Where are you coming? How do you become
a Swiss army knife in your position? Now I'm looking
at it from a hole because I think that there's
a lot in which this young and hungry roster has
to bring to the table. But it's going to be
an organic kind of happening. At one point in the season,
it's going to be Week six and we're going to say, Wow,

(14:37):
I think it's finally happening, because it's not like you
just pluck one from the draft and throw them in
to this this label and they kind of go through
this era and evolution of their position. So just want
to kind of put that little I know it ruins everywhere.
It's like telling you Santa Claus isn't real or whatever,
but I just think that it's important to note the
altitude adjustment era. Heck, yeah, LTB musics for was having

(15:00):
happy my back.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I will say, Brie, I do think it's fascinating that
we are talking about filling holes in your brain. Immediately
win to Vince McMahon. That seems very apropos.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I don't like how it makes me feel.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Sometimes filling holes can make you feel kind of dirty.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Don't sue me. Oh, he's no longer on the ww board,
so it's fine. It's fine.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
He doesn't have any sort of poll. Speaking of holes
to fill, Brie Patrick and I have in the past
address running back, wide receiver, tight end, and defensive line,
and we'll harken back to some of those because I
want to get your your input. But today the holes
that I would like to fill are inside linebacker in safety.

(15:53):
So you know what we do now, Brie, We fill
that hole, and you are an honorary mile high meathead

(16:14):
this evening, since you apparently disposed of the other one.
Still don't know where Pat is. But that's fine. We're
going to act like it's not a big deal. So Brie,
let's start with the inside linebacker position. And I'll just
kind of preface this by saying they went bargain bin
shopping for Cody Barton last year. I thought that he
performed admirably, especially at the price of which you got him. Obviously,

(16:37):
he is an impending free agent justin Sternat, I thought
filled in as well as you could have expected for
a guy who was a career special teamer. But as
the team entered that final stretch and the defense scene
like it really kind of started falling apart a little bit.
They were giving up more points. They didn't look like
they're dominant selves. I think one of the main positions

(17:00):
that we can point to Breeze that inside linebacker position,
where you milk that cow dry. You got as much
out of it as you could, and eventually the guys
were exposed because there's there is a limited amount of
talent compared to a lot of the inside linebacker corsal
around the league. And you know, losing a guy like
Singleton obviously is gonna affect that. And you know, a

(17:22):
guy like Strenade kind of being forced into a starting role,
it's gonna weaken that room a little bit, even though
again he had a fine year for I think what
he is as a player. But they really got exposed
in that playoff game. I mean, their game plan going
into that Buffalo matchup was to stop the run, and
they couldn't do it. They were just a little bit

(17:43):
too light, and I think the linebackers really got exposed.
So we've seen a lot of names thrown around, Bree,
why don't you tell me how you would fill that hole.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I like it, and I like that you mentioned the
special teams and the developmental potential for the depth in
that position. Because you got Alex Singleton coming off the
ACL injury, he's probably gone. I like Cody Barton, I
hope they keep him. I think it's the right cost
and the right prodetive moving forward because le Broncos have
been pluging guys into special teams and developing them with success,

(18:15):
and I think you're seeing that. I would have liked
to see you a little bit more out of some
of the guys. I know they added late into the season,
but grabbing a guy like I don't know. If we
talk about free agency right and the champion Eagles and
the runner up Chiefs have two free agent linebackers, I
think the Broncos should probably at least keep a little
earmark on the page four Zach Bonn and Nick Bolton.

(18:38):
I think it's a smart move for any sort of
free agent moving and I think either of those guys,
I think you really can't go wrong. It's a coin
flip there for me. But if we want to talk
about the draft and maybe some interesting prospects that are
later around, so starting maybe in the fourth round, you
have Shamar James out of Florida, had a lot of
contribution this year, and out of those three, honestly, I'm

(19:00):
okay with a free agent move there. I'm okay if
you get a guy who's had some time to develop
in the league and who's gotten the snaps the linebackers,
who the best available that's there the fourth through the
sixth round, I think is a really smart move. But
I like schmart games. I liked what I saw when
I was researching for this hole to be filled, this gap,
if you will. But I'd like them to at least

(19:23):
see how much it costs to get like a Nick Bolan, Like,
why would you pass over championship players if you can
get them, Because that's the achilles heel of winning a
Super Bowl or coming up in second place like the
losers that the Chiefs are. You lose some talent and
you can't retain everybody.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Absolutely. And one name that I want to mention that
has been on the mouths of a lot of Bronco
fans is Zach Bond, and rightfully so. I mean, he
had an unbelievable year. He was a I believe a
Sean Payton draft pick. You know, we've got the ties
to the Saints, which seems like it has to be
a priority now when you're looking at players that Sean

(20:03):
Payton wants to add. But I'm gonna be honest, you
look at that defense. First of all, the fact that
it's a big Fangio defense benefits everybody, most of all
the inside linebackers. I saw someone say on Twitter today
that the Broncos had added Alexander Johnson and basically signed
him off the street. And you know, he played like

(20:25):
he was a freaking All Pro under big Fanjo, He's
just able to plug him in and then he kind
of disappeared into obscurity and no one ever heard from
him again. Now, I don't want to take anything away
from Zach Bond and the year that he had, it
was obviously incredible. Part of my issue with a player
like that, if you're looking big picture, the Eagles had
the best front defensive line in the entire league and

(20:49):
really one of the best ever assembled, and anybody that
tries to argue that point just doesn't know ball. And
then behind that linebacker Cord, they had arguably one of
the best secondary in the entire NFL, and I think
that was a big reason that we saw these Broncos
linebackers look as serviceable as they did. You're talking about
a team that led the league in sacks. They were

(21:10):
obviously pressuring the quarterback. The secondary not an immense strike like,
certainly not at the level of the Eagles, but a
very very good secondary nonetheless that takes pressure off the
linebackers as well. And then the dams ended up bursting
in Denver. But I see like a similar not problem,
but situation with the Zach Bond where it's a bit

(21:34):
of an anomaly the year that he had, and I
think the fact that he was surrounded by such incredible
talent really bolstered what he was able to do at
the inside linebacker position. But my biggest issue with like
signing him, you still have the Russell Wilson contract that
you need to consider. Now. It's great that you have
a cost controlled quarterback, and this is really where you
need to build the team around him, and you have

(21:56):
to exploit those first five years of the bow Knicks
contract like a rookie. And I still think that you
need to be very pragmatic. So they're not going to
go bargain bin shopping the way that they did last season.
But I still think that they need to be frugal.
And I had mentioned this earlier. The number one guy
that they have to address is Zach Allen. I think

(22:16):
the sooner you resign him, the better, and then you
kind of have to base what you do in free
agency off of how much that contract costs you. Now,
because of the years Zach Bond just had, I mean
he signed he what he did was kind of similar
to what Shaq Barrett did back in the day in
terms of he signed a one year proven deal, he
had a career year, he was unbelievable, and then he

(22:38):
got paid. And Zach Bond is going to get a
bag and he deserves it. So the question is, do
you take him out of a Fangio based defense where
he thrived, away from all of the superstar players that
he got to play around where he thrived, and pay
him a bag to be arguably a different kind of player.

(22:58):
That's exactly why I'm not sold on Zach Bond.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
No, I like it. I love the pushback there, especially
when you make that mention, is he the same player
if you take him out of that Vic Fangio defense?
Honestly shouts out hats off to Vic Fangio. I apologize.
I think I was a little too hard on you
for your tenure here in Denver, but that.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Was a do that you were exactly hard enough on him.
He was not a good head coach. He is a
phenomenal defensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I think he's I think he's back to where he's
supposed to be, But I mean, wasn't vance Joseph having
to take over a little bit of that Vic Fangio
defense there for a while. Why couldn't we find a
plug and play player there? The best of both worlds,
the cake and the eating it too. But the thought
of losing Zach Allen, the minute you mentioned it, I
was like, Oh, that's not interchangeable. I don't know if
I want to make that kind of move because I

(23:51):
don't think it's appreciably better either, and you're really not
going to be able to afford both of them. And
it's just the hard part about getting better Broncos country,
So you have to start making really difficult decisions. And
we've seen what has happened over the years as difficult
decisions and players getting along in the tooth having to
move on to different teams simply because of the business

(24:12):
side of the NFL. And I don't know if I
like the wager there with a Zach Allen not being
able to be retained. I like the prioritization there, right,
But you are looking for a little bit of raising
the tide so all the ships can rise as well.
So how do they do that? Mario, Like, there is

(24:33):
there just a one answer fits all? Is I don't
think you're double dipping it inside linebacker in the draft.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Now, Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. And here's a
question that I want to ask you as it pertains
to the draft. So everybody is well aware that the
running back room has to be better, the tight end
room has to be better, and there are a lot
of members of Broncos country who have kind of resigned
themselves to believe that if they don't go running back
or tight end in the first round that they're going
to be upset. Okay, I think the idea of a

(25:04):
defensive lineman kind of like what Muses saying here, I
think that's starting to become a little bit more fresh
in people's minds, especially after you saw what the Eagles
did to the Chiefs, a team that the Broncos obviously
have to face twice a year and a team that
if they want to become a serious contender they have
to overtake. It's a copycat league. So maybe some more
people kind of coming around on the idea of a

(25:25):
first round defensive lineman. But maybe is there a position
that we haven't mentioned in terms of what the Broncos
will do at twenty and is that position inside linebacker.
You know a Jaheid Carter or a Demetrius Knight junior,
a guy like that who seems like they would be
a plug and play. Now with me, it gives me
a little bit of trepidation because I think inside linebackers

(25:48):
are so volatile and so difficult to project at the
NFL level, no matter the success that they had. But
if the fit feels right to you, how would you
feel about an inside linebacker being the choice at twenty.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Honestly, I think if it's the Broncos move, it's the
Broncos move any player, any positional group. The Broncos could
draft the safety at twenty for all we know at
this present time and moment, as the draft continues to
work itself out, there's players at those positions, and we're
speculating that running back and tight end or the highest
of needs here for the Denver Broncos moving into the

(26:24):
draft like it is the high key proponent of what
everyone thinks is the appropriate move now that you've shored
up your QB position, but they were very well could
go defense, and then everyone's minds go to the defensive line,
which I understand right need some help there on the interior,
But what if it's a safety, if it's what if
it's a dB right, And I know that that as

(26:46):
far as positional value goes, it's not traditionally where you
see those individuals go. But as we've seen the turnover
and as we've seen individuals struggle to really fill the
need and the leadership role there for the Denver Broncos
and the droom, what if there is the opportunity to
add another player there? We thought I was crazy with
the Patrick Shirtan. What if it was a different individual.

(27:08):
So I just want to throw it out there that
it could change day by day and at the end,
at the end of it, I the war room of
Peyton and Peyton they could pull a crazy move if
the right player is there, Just like Patrick Sirtan was there,
the right player could be there. I'm not saying there's
one in this draft. I'm just saying we really don't
know if a wide receiver or a running back would

(27:31):
be the best pick at twenty. And that's to play
itself out. There's generational talent out there, and I really
kind of love the parody of the entirety of the
event because it is shocking sometimes and depending on how
that board falls, they could trade back and disappoint everyone
in Broncos country because we're never happy, we are fickle beasts.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Well yeah, I think no matter what happens, there's going
to be a contingent of Bronco fans who are going
to be upset about it, just like with bon Nicks
with Patrick Sirtan. And I'm so glad that you brought
that up, like the Patrick Shirtan situation, because if we
can go back a few years and kind of relive
that moment, there were a lot of Bronco fans who
were upset that they didn't draft a quarterback that they

(28:14):
didn't take Justin Fields or a mac Jones. And if
you look at the way that that roster was constructed
at the time, turner back wasn't really in need. I mean,
I loved Patrick Sartan coming out, and it's like I
was fine with the pick. I was more confused because
I'm like, hey, you know, on paper, this isn't a

(28:36):
great team and it felt like they had more pressing needs.
And now you fast forward to today and Patrick Sartan
is literally the best defensive player in the entire NFL,
and you're thinking Wow, thank God that they drafted Patrick Surtan,
And that was kind of the theme of that draft
Bree where they took a Quinn Miners from a small school.

(28:58):
They had two guards at the time in Graham Glasgow
with Dalton Reisner. Guard wasn't necessarily need. But here we
are today saying thank God that they drafted Quinn Minors.
They had taken Baron Browning was which was an obvious
pick at the time, and I think if he could stay,
could have stayed healthy, it would have been a different situation.
But then you go to the seventh round and they
get his running made at Ohio State, Jonathan Cooper, And

(29:20):
at that point you're like, yeah, I know, like edge
is an important position, but you literally just took one
from the same exact school. And then now we're saying
thank God that they drafted Jonathan Cooper. So I think
that's what's important to keep in mind, is like we
have tunnel vision as fans to think they have to
address this one position or one of these two positions,

(29:41):
when the fact of the matter is the one thing
that we know is that we don't know anything, and
they are going to take the best available player regardless
of position, And honest to God, Bree, like, if you
really take a big step back and look at the
big picture, quarterback is the only position that I think
is completely off the board for their first round selection,

(30:03):
whether it be at twenty or whether they trade back
and add a couple of more picks later on. There
is not a single position that they would draft where
I would be shocked or confused simply because I've gone
through those emotions in the past and then all of
a sudden, every single time I felt that way, it
worked out. So would it be shocking if they took

(30:25):
a cornerback at twenty, Yeah, but it wouldn't really surprise
me that much because then you're shoring up a position
on the defense. Would it shock me if they took
an offensive lineman an offensive tackle? Yeah, but you know,
I guess like Garrett Bowles is getting a little bit
long in the tooth. How long can he play at
the level that he's at? And I think this is like,

(30:46):
this is the most fun thing for me when it
comes to like talking about the draft is there's not
really a wrong answer, per se. And I'm right right now,
I'm kind of just rooting for chaos here. For the
collective crash out meltdown of Broncos country when they select
a defensive back at twenty and Music said, like Malachi

(31:11):
Starks out of Georgia, phenomenal safety, probably the best safety
in this class, even in nick A Wa Minori. I
think is how you pronounce his name, the safety out
of South Carolina. The guy is an absolute physical specimen
and they're guys who is like, even though he's not
really high on your needs counter, there is a very

(31:32):
very good chance that they are the best player available.
And I think that's the one thing that you can
count on, Bree, is that they are going to go
best player available, whether they think it's an imminent need
or not.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
And it's a prime spot in order to do so,
because they've shorn up that QB spot right like the
big question mark is off the board. I'm not saying
these picks aren't important, but you had a high praise
and you better be careful because you know our audience
for George Payton and those picks, because it does take
a while for those draft classes to really sort themselves

(32:05):
out and show you what sort of result you were
expecting from that. We react so quickly, thinking that the
move was either the greatest thing ever or the worst
thing ever. And normally it trends so negatively, which is
kind of fun for me to sit back and watch
happen as it unravels. You've seen the reaction with the
Patrick Sartan, but you've seen the reaction with the draft

(32:26):
class as a whole, where individuals may turn their nose up.
We won't know for a couple of years if this
is the right move or not, especially because you have
to qualify in trade values for the players that you selected,
and then you've got some picks for later on down
the road. So I don't know. It just makes me
think a little bit that it's a fun process. But

(32:48):
I like to kind of sit back and laugh at
all of you sometimes.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
I'm glad that you had mentioned how b Nix is,
thank god, the biggest hole filler of this team. Can
we call him that? That's a compliment, right, like the
ultimate person who has filled a hole. I mean, if
there's someone who has filled a bigger hole than bon Nicks,
and I would love to meet him because that was

(33:14):
a just a gigantic hole that he really filled with ease.
I mean, he just he got real snug right up
in there, and that hole is completely filled. But to
that end, because we no longer have to worry about
bon Nicks. One of the things that I want to

(33:35):
ask you, and I've seen a lot of this Brie,
there's been I guess you could call it national disrespect
when it comes to bon Nicks, and we heard it
during the preseason, we heard it throughout the season, We're
hearing it now and it feels like it's never going away.
So I guess a two part question. Do you feel

(33:56):
like bone Nicks is unfairly judged in the eyes of
the national media and is so do you have a
problem with it?

Speaker 2 (34:07):
I love the way that you post this question as
though I should be offended, right like ah, it is
just affirmed that everyone is mad. The waste of energy
it takes to be outraged by clickbait that is designed
to upset you is my number one pet peeve I
think on the planet. Since becoming a social media enjoyer

(34:31):
the last couple of years, have sort of seen how
and engagement works in itself. Right, There's teams out there
that work to try to limit your engagements for this reason,
but they work, and they play off of each other
in this environment, in the space sports talk in general,
we're going existential tonight, and I am sorry for it.

(34:51):
But the idea here is that the national narrative has
to choose a side, and then you, as an enjoyer
of said sport or said person, then has to take
the other side. That is just the tribalism of being
a sports fan. That is what fandom is bore out of.
But what if I told you it's not actually disrespect
for another individual to get the accolades. Now, I want

(35:13):
to say, leaving Bonnicks off entirely and acting as though
he didn't have a tremendous rookie season and not comparing
him in the likes of a Jaden Daniels is wild
to me. I think that it's a misrepresentation, but I
feel like it could have been intentional simply because since
Week four of this season, Broncos Country, we have been
absolutely insufferable by the success that our team has been having.

(35:38):
Right so, the minute they beat the Bucks and moving forward,
it just became really ugly here in Broncos Country. And
not a bad thing, right, I'm all for the passion,
but you couldn't find an NFL post that didn't have
a Broncos fan in there, like ripping their shirt off
and streaking in the name of Bonicks, And I am
okay with it. But this is what happens, right. They

(35:59):
know they can up set you, and you're gonna quote
tweet it, you're gonna screenshot it, you're gonna tag them
and say, look at this, look at these idiots. But
I was telling Mario earlier today, it's like you're shocked
that they're being fucking fucks, Like, how could you because
they're fucking fucks like that. That is what you should
have expected from this interaction here, and so I just

(36:19):
want to put a little reality sticker in there for you.
But yeah, I think there's a level of disrespect, but
I think the the the origination point is specifically designed
just to piss people off. At the end of the day,
you can say, and we've heard it all through the
off seasons the Broncos made their their their short playoff run,

(36:41):
is that this Bonicks had a tremendous rookie season. And
I think it's what you believe, right, It's what you see,
It's the hope that you have in your heart for
this team. Moving forward. That's how you should feel about this.
But don't go arguing with the ninnies online because they're
trying to get you to argue with them.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, and I think as long as we're going to
be discussing the joker, I think that harkens back to
a perfect situation and a perfect example. How many Nuggets
fans have wasted countless hours defending Nikola Jokic as the MVP.
He should win MVP, he should have won it the
year that Embiid won it. And you know who doesn't

(37:22):
give two shits about the MVP, Nikola Jokic. So my
logic is kind of like, well, I want to defend him,
and I want to make a case as to why
he deserves MVP, But at the end of the day,
if he doesn't care, why should we. And I think
this is applicable to the bo Nicks situation. Do you
think bo Nix is searching his name on Twitter and

(37:45):
looking at all the mean things that people are saying
about him? Do you think that he's distraught that he's
being compared to Jayden Daniels and people are saying, what
a better quarterback? Jade Daniels is? No do you think
that he's distraught when people say that Drake may or
Caleb Willilliams or even JJ McCarthy in some circles is
going to be a better quarterback than him now because

(38:05):
he's a professional fucking quarterback and he doesn't care about
any of that. So I pose this conundrum to you
that if Bo doesn't care what people are saying about him,
and if anything, he's using it as motivation, perhaps a
chip on his shoulder, you know, being the sixth quarterback taken,
he's out there to say, yeah, I should have been

(38:25):
the first quarterback taken. And then it kind of ends
with that. But I think what's worse breed than this
manufactured hate that we get into the almost the a
trolling level of disrespect. What's worse than that is when
people go out of their way to then farm for engagement,

(38:47):
or write articles or do podcasts discussing why it's so
bad that people are like, oh, can you believe how
mean people are to bow Nick? Shut the fuck up?
When you just stop, you you're starting to sound like
a Chiefs fan. Do you know why everybody shits on
Patrick Mahomes because he's obnoxious and everybody is sick of

(39:09):
seeing him. And what do Chiefs fans do. They get
all up in their feelings and they defend him to
the ends of the earth. And you know who doesn't
care about that, Patrick Mahomes. You know who's not losing
sleep over any of this, Patrick Mahomes. And I don't
want to compare the two. My point is that by
complaining about the disrespect that your quarterback gets makes you

(39:33):
sound like a prattling, cry baby Chiefs fan, and that
is the last thing as a Broncos fan that you
should ever want. Take a page out of their playbook
and learn from their mistakes. Don't be an insufferable douche
the way that all of Chief's kingdom has become because

(39:54):
they've been good at football for a few minutes. Okay,
be better than that, because you're a prob Ghos fan
and you are better than that. Do not succumb to
this pressure of needing to defend your quarterback. Do you
like bo Nicks? Do you think that he's a franchise quarterback?
Do you think he's a top ten guy? If so,

(40:15):
then that's all that matters. Stop being told what to
believe by people who don't know as much as.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
You, nobody likes an extremist, so it goes both ways.
I just always want to want to throw that out there.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, yeah, exactly right. Speaking of getting too emotional about
this team, Brie, and this was kind of you know,
this is going to be the focal point of the discussion,
and this is what was on the tagline. Von Miller
is likely to be released. And I know that this

(40:52):
is going to strike a chord with a lot of
Bronco fans because the idea of von Miller and the
performances of von Miller are still very much fresh in
our hearts and our minds. So I pose you this question, Brie,
if and when von Miller is released, should the Broncos

(41:13):
bring him back.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I feel like you're putting me on the line for
a murder charge. And I told you not to bring
up Patigan, and so I fell backed into I mean,
I didn't say that. Uh, okay. With the changes in
the Broncos organization, there's always a bit of nostalgia, right

(41:40):
new owners, the talk of a new stadium, a new
head coach, faces of the franchise moving on. I want
to transport myself back to the time in which the
trade happened with von Miller. My phone started going off
the hook and it was rattling around in the cup holder,
and I thought so much had died, so I had

(42:01):
to actually look at my phone, and then it was worse.
It was a trade of von Miller, and it broke
me spiritually at the time, and I didn't understand the
move necessarily. That's how impactful von Miller was as a
member of the Denver community and as a Bronco and
it felt like a Bronco for life. And you know
whose jersey am I going to get next? He's one

(42:21):
of the only jerseys I had bought in my tenure
as a Broncos fan. So yeah, it was sort of
a if I transport myself back into that minute and
you had asked me, would you want him to come
back to finish his career, it would have been a
no brainer, right. I remember the posts where people were like,
he'll retire a Bronco, he'll come back, he'll finish his
time here, let him go play for a contender, etcetera, etcetera.

(42:43):
We're very happy for him and hope he continues to
find success with the bills. The choices that Sean Payton
has made in his two years here in Denver to
move on from specific members of the team, and obviously
Von Miller was included in that, but it justin Simmons
was which felt like an equal amount of shock to me.

(43:05):
I think there is a reason for the madness that
I don't necessarily agree with, you know, in my heart
of hearts as a Broncos fan and as a football
enjoyer and all of those things in one. But I
don't think it fits the narrative for Sean Payton to
bring back a von Miller for what they're trying to
do with this team, for how much of an emphasis

(43:27):
he puts on the young players really building something for themselves.
And it's not to say he won't go for veteran
free agents and other positions, but I don't know if
von Miller is the fitting piece here. And I think
your question had two levels to the thought process around
it and how I would feel around it. I also
think that I'm at that point which sounds crazy, right,

(43:48):
and so I almost feel like I have to lean
into it that, Yeah, if everything worked out and the
price was right, and it would be so nice to
see von finish his career here, But I'm not that
that's the smart football move where the Broncos can make
that move and have it be good for the long run.

(44:08):
So that's why it pains me to answer that in
the like kind of the most honest way I have
up until this point is I don't think it's the
right move, but I wish that we could see it happen.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. And this
is a difficult topic simply because it's difficult to remove
nostalgia goggles. Again, everybody remembers how great von Miller was
in a Denver Broncos uniform, and he has done such
a good job endearing himself to Broncos fans, where the

(44:42):
way that he talks about this team, you would think
that he is still a member of this team. And
I love him for that. I love the fact that
he at least portrays himself as a Broncos fan. Who
am I to say if it's disingenuous or not. It
feel it does feel genuine, but really we'll never know.
You know, Vaughn could just be playing the good guy,

(45:04):
because he, for the most part, is a good guy.
Aside from certain allegations that we don't need to discuss
right this minute, but I think when you discuss the
reality of the situation, what value does current von Miller
bring to a team outside of the nostalgic value. He

(45:28):
was great here, and then he went to Los Angeles
and he won himself another ring, and then he went
to Buffalo where he made a shit ton of money
to play not a lot and to not put up
the kind of von Miller stats that they were paying
him for. Wasn't able to get back to the super Bowl,
although got close, and at this point of his career,

(45:48):
it's like we are if we are strictly looking to
improve this team and what that might cost. I mean,
is von Miller really going to take some minuscule contract
to be a fourth or fifth rotational edge rusher for
this room? I don't think so. Like he's he's no

(46:10):
longer going to give you the production that you got
out of a Nick Benito. He's not going to give
you the production that you got out of a Jonathan Cooper.
You had a budding superstar rookie and Jonah Ellis who
I think exceeded a lot of expectations and showed a
lot of promise and a guy that I have talked
about until I've been blue in the face has been
Dondre Tillman, who was such a fantastic signing and it

(46:31):
would be foolish for them to not bring him back.
So if that is your current edge room, Brie, where
does von Miller fit in? Where are those snaps coming from?
So again, outside of a nostalgia based signing where it's
just a feel good story and it's like, oh, it's
so nice that von Miller is back, at some point
you have to look at it pragmatically and tell yourself, yeah,

(46:56):
he's probably not going to have the kind of effect
on a team that you are really hoping for. And
if anything, Breed, I would be worried about this, not
ruining his reputation certainly, but damaging it because how many
Bronco fans are going to get up in their feelings
if they were to sign him back and get all

(47:16):
excited and then they see, you know, really, von Miller
is a shell of who he used to be the
last time that he was in Denver. And I think
that's okay to say, yeah, but you are now a
very serious football team that has exceeded expectations. You have
to make your decisions accordingly, and aside from a really warm, fuzzy,

(47:38):
feel good story, I just don't think that it's the
best idea to bring a von Miller back. And it's
tough to say, and it's a shame. And if you
could tell me that you were going to get Los
Angeles Rams von Miller, or even the von Miller that
you saw his first year in Buffalo, even though that
was kind of when the slides started to happen, I

(48:00):
think I would be more on board with it. But
the success, I guess you could say, has gone to
my head and I have higher expectations for this team.
If they seem like they like they weren't going to
be competitive and you need to put butts in seats
and you need to keep this fan base interested. Yeah,
bring back von Miller, but you're not going to make
a move just for the sake of making it. You're

(48:26):
trying to trying to grasp the reality of that.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, it makes me a little bit, you know, you know,
it's just like you are. But then I think there's
a level of excitement when that's where this team is at.
I think after a certain stretch of time we talk
about it as being a decade. It's nine years whatever,
too long to be able to have these conversations where
maybe you are being a little bit more strategic and

(48:51):
maybe you are hoping that there's better decisions made, and
I could just hear the conversation now. There was already
talk about him not having enough sex later in his
career to really make it worthwhile. I just wouldn't want
to have to feel those from people who don't understand
what a pressure is in the NFL. So most of
it's just from the sake of I love the point

(49:12):
of it not tarnishing his long standing dominance in the AFC.
So I yeah, I one day sign it and retire.
I just don't think he's there yet. I would be
really interested to see where he would end his playing career,
Like there's got to be a team out there that
could use his services. I'm not saying that he's completely

(49:34):
out of it, but stealing snaps from some of these
up and coming edges just it wouldn't be worth the
juice and if in anything, it would really take away
from their developments. So I'm glad we had this conversation.
I don't know why I was scared of it. It
was almost like admitting I don't know that you eat
pineapple on pizza or something.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
I don't know. I do too.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
There's nothing wrong, Yeah, but you don't you.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Get the sweet, you get the savory. It's the best
of both worlds. People who don't do pineapple on pizza
are uncultured.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
That's fine, but let's use a better analogy. And I
didn't want to go there. I don't want to bring
your personal life into the show. But it's almost like
its higher skin of a fucking kiwi.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Like, so you're supposed to eat the kiwi's.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Segull or something, and what is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
It's the correct way to eat it. I'm not going
to have this discussion with you, Okay, I'm right. Everybody
else is wrong. Learn how to eat the kiwi like
be an adult, eat the entire kiwi or don't buy that. Okay.
I'm not telling you to eat a banana peel. I'm
not telling you to eat an orange peel. I'm telling

(50:50):
you eat a kiwi the way that you would an apple. Okay,
are you peeling the skin off of an apple? Because
if you are, you're a little bit of a sociopath. Okay,
that's part of the apple. And if we're being completely honest, brain,
now that we're on this tangent, I'm just gonna go
ahead and address it. Cutting and peeling a kiwi is tedious,

(51:11):
needlessly tedious. So people have now reached the conclusion that
it's better to eat a kiwed doing all of this work.
It's not crab legs. Okay, it's not worth all of
that work to eat.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Like this?

Speaker 2 (51:27):
The thought of it is making my tongue feel weird.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I'm having this very physical reaction. It's visceral. At this point,
they were just like licking the kiwi ball and I
don't appreciate the visual that you listen.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
All I know is that all these people that have
such a problem with the fact that I eat the
entire kei, we act like they haven't put much worse
things in their mouths over the years. Fair In order
to get us back on track and so that we're
not ending on such a somber note with our von

(52:07):
Miller discussion, we are going to take the show out
the only way that we know how, and that is
with a segment that has become the most beloved in
all the lore of Denver Broncos podcasts. Get ready to
get bricked up. Finally we have reached the pinnacle of

(52:41):
the show, and thankfully we have over one thousand people
watching live. And if you are watching, we thank you
so much. We salute you. We appreciate you spending your
time with us. But if we're being honest, what could
you possibly be doing to spend your time that would
be better than hanging out with me and Brie? And

(53:02):
I think a lot of these people are just really
concerned for Patrick Keyote's safety. But we don't need to
address that on the show. We can worry about it later. Okay, Yeah,
forget that I said anything. Really, what has you ricked up?

Speaker 2 (53:18):
And so abruptly, Mario, you ask questions as though it
is an interrogation within the judicial system, and I don't
have the stomach or the heart for it. But what
got me bricked up for this Denver Broncos team is
the Super Bowl and the AFC Championship. Odds for the
Broncos being released. I cannot believe we actually get to

(53:38):
talk about them being plus sixteen hundred for the AFC
Championship and plus thirty five hundred for the Super Bowl.
Those odds provided by not a sponsor DraftKings. But the
idea here is that they're like in the midpoint of
the entire NFL. The Denver Broncos are a middling team,
and you may be asking yourselves, well, why would that
be exciting?

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Brie.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
That sounds average. No, it means it's on their way
of being above average because they just started with the
rookie quarterback their head coaches in his second year, and
they have every single draft pick that they need going
into this offseason. So I'm bricked up about the idea
that the Denver Broncos are Super Bowl contenders in the
top half of the league. That should have everybody excited,
because they exceeded every expectation that we put on them

(54:21):
this last go around for twenty twenty four and twenty
twenty fives right around the corner, and I couldn't be
more happy, more than happy to talk about the idea
that they have a shot at the AFC. Now they
have to top the AFC West. That's a big little
question mark that exists. But we've seen the Kansas City
Chiefs of this last couple of seasons they continue to

(54:43):
falter and embarrass themselves, and maybe it's the time and
the turning in the seasons. All great teams end up
going back to mediocrity and then to the sub level
of their foundation and having to rebuild again. The Broncos
just got a quicker start. And I know there's that
fancy little word of regression when it comes to rookie quarterbacks,

(55:03):
but I think bo Nix is going to continue to
sort of raise his ceiling a little bit, right, That
was the whole conversation. He doesn't have a lot of
growth leftover. Well, he shocked all of you, Didnty, And
I know that the second year for rookie quarterbacks is
always a little bit scary, But I'm not fearful anymore.
There's a lot of hope, there's a lot of could

(55:23):
you imagine, Mario, Let me let me just ask you
this question, past Mario, would the Broncos even be in
a Super Bowl conversation in the off season of twenty
twenty four? Like, were you thinking that we could have
those conversations in the next handful of years. No, we
were gonna be forty by the time we can even

(55:45):
talk about a winning season and again, I'm not going
to tell you how old we are. You can figure
it out Google exists.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
We're not forty. Yeah, yeah, I really wish that I
had gone first because that was absolutely fantastic. That was
one of the best bricked up rants that has ever
been had on on this show. It's a yeah, that
was That was absolutely brilliant. And I think I'm just

(56:14):
gonna build off of your point. And I've even I've
said this to so many people Breed that I think
back to where I was mentally and emotionally as a fan,
and I'm always going to be glass half full, guy.
I'm always going to be looking through life through orange
colored glasses.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Guy.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
I even did a segment for Brandon Perna a couple
of years ago after the Broncos had hired Sean Payton
that was entitled five reasons why the Denver Broncos will
make the Playoffs in twenty twenty three, and you know
that was not to be. But that's the kind of
fan that I am, and that's the kind of fan

(56:55):
that I've always been. Every single season after the Super Bowl,
I talked myself into why the Broncos would be good
even though you know, deep down. I maybe didn't believe it,
but I wanted to make myself believe it, because that's
the whole point of being a fan, right doing mental
gymnastics to convince yourself that your team is going to

(57:17):
be better than they are. And year in and year out,
my hopes were dashed just a little bit more. And
I finally reached a breaking point last year. And granted
this was before the draft, and it was before free agency.
You're kind of in the middle of free agency where
I could not, for the life of me conceive of

(57:40):
a way that the Broncos were going to be a
good football team. And you you know, hearkening back to
what we said about the national media were being told
that they have the worst record or the worst roster
in the NFL. And then, granted that was a little
stupid to say, but people have to say things because
they get paid to say things, I guess, but there
were no two ways about it. Like, we knew it

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wasn't a great roster, at least we thought that it wasn't.
We didn't really know what to expect from Vance Joseph
because even though we closed out twenty twenty three on
a fairly high note, you know, it was it was
a bit of a mixed bag. We were excited about
Sean Payton and he got more out of Russell Wilson
than obviously Nathaniel Hackett did, but it's still left a
lot to be desired. And then Russell Wilson gets released,

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which was obviously the right thing, but then you release
him and you're like, we don't really have a solution
at quarterback. It's like, are we just gonna roll with
Jarrett Stidham And then you know, Zach Wilson was also there,
and then even after bon Nicks was drafted, you know,
there was a lot of there was a lot of
discussions to be had about whether or not he was
a viable starting option at quarterback, and I just I

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wrestled with the idea that they would be good, and
I just could not figure out a way after losing
the pieces that they lost and being in the position
that they were in and again having to go bargain
bin shopping in the reagency market because of the insane
Russell Wilson contract that they had to navigate. It just
felt like a throwaway year and it almost feels like

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Karmac justice for me, Bree that the one time that
I couldn't finagle myself into thinking that the Broncos would
be good, they were actually really fucking good. And so
that's what has me bricked up. It's the trend the
trends of what we're seeing for the first time, and

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god knows how long this team is trending drastically upward
in the correct direction. And not only that, Brie a
lot of the teams that they need to be worried about,
especially the Kansas City Chiefs, they're trending in the opposite direction.
And I think that's what has me the most bricked

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up is that the worst this roster will be with
bone Nick as a quarterback was last season. They were
a ten win team and they went to the playoffs.
Now here's where it gets a little bit juicy and
where it gets a little bit dicey. That has now
become the expectation. That is the bar that you have set,

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that is your team's floor. Because you are going to
improve in this offseason through free agency through the draft.
The team will be on paper much better than they
were last year. Where do you take it from there?
Are you able to build on a ten win season?
Because again, ten wins has now become the minimum. If

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you want to continue this trend and continue to buck
all of these thoughts that the Broncos are a good
not great team, you need to win eleven, twelve, dare
I say thirteen games, and you will have to figure
out a way to overtake the Kansas City Chiefs. And
what has me the most bricked up, Bree is that

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this is the first time since the Super Bowl year
that I actually have a modicum of confidence that they
can overtake the Kansas City Chiefs. And if that does
not have you bricked up as a Broncos fan, then
you are dead inside. You are suffering from a severe

(01:01:21):
case of rigamortis. And even in that instance, you would
still be bricked up. For anyone that knows what rigamortis
is quick little and now im me lesson. Go ahead
and google it. It's not my job to educate you
anything else that you'd like to save me before we
get you out of here and send out a search
party for Patrick Keioti.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I told you he you won't find him. Plus it's
past my bedtime, so it's thanks for having me on
and maybe Pat will be back next week or he'll
be weekend at Bernie's next week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
That actually gives me a really good idea for a
new segment of the show that will be probably a
really offensive, but that's okay. We're gonna do it anyway.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so so much for all
of you joining us, all twelve hundred of the live viewers.
We so appreciate you. You are wonderful. We cannot thank

(01:02:19):
you enough. And it was obviously because Bree joined me. Bree,
you were fantastic as always, you stole the show. I
know that I can always rely on you to just
be fantastic at what you do. Thank you all again
so much for watching, and I will see y'all next week. Okay,
I love you, Bye bye, Hey, fill me in a

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move for a switcher. Hit the rolate to that hiccup.
I hit the stage, I lead with