Which Denver Broncos Rookies Will Have The Biggest 2025 Impact?

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#Broncos #BroncosCountry #NFL #DenverBroncos #NFLDraft #MockDraft On tonight's episode, Mario and Pat discuss which Denver Broncos rookies will have the greatest impact in 2025! Check out the website: https://letstalkbroncos.com/ Altitude Adjustment Shop: https://altitudeadjustmentshop.com/ Catch the Let's Talk Broncos Podcast Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays on the Let's Talk Broncos YouTube, by clicking subscribe below and ringing the bell for notifications, or by searching 'Let's Talk Broncos' wherever you listen to podcasts!!

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mario.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's in a move for a switcher.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
The relations to that hit up.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I hit the stage, I leave with money. That's a
stick up.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Some might say that was the best cold open that
we've ever done. I think instead of pushing ourselves through time,
we might have accidentally pushed time through ourselves.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Thank God, we're back, and we're back.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Let's say, let me hold on, let me fix my
stuff here. I apologize, ladies and gentlemen, we're already having
some technical difficulties. Okay, now there we go. Now we're
officially back. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to
Altitude Adjustment. Pat and I have a fantastic show planned
for you. You know why, Pat, because we get to discuss

(01:09):
the two thousand and twenty five Denver Broncos draft class.
And a lot of people might be wondering, Oh, are
are the Altitude Adjustment guys? Are are the mile high
meatheads going to give us a draft grade? Are they
going to grade each and every pick? The answers, no, Pat,
because everybody does that, and quite frankly, draft grades are

(01:31):
stupid because you're putting a grade on a player that
has never played in an NFL game. That has never
stepped foot on an NFL field, has seldom even been
in an NFL facility. They don't have the playbook, they
don't know any of their teammates, and you're going to
saddle them with an arbitrary grade based solely off of

(01:53):
what you personally thought of the player. You know what
kind of people do that, Pat, The kind of people
that refuse to admit that Patrick Sartan was the right
pick over Justin Fields. The same kind of people who
are QAnon dipshits that for some reason get their stuff
published onto joke accounts that are begging to be taken seriously,

(02:18):
We're not those guys, Pat. Instead, we are gonna go
through all of these guys and we are gonna say
whether or not they have main character energy or if
they're just NPCs, if they're non playable characters. But before
we get into that, we of course have to discuss
arguably the biggest not arguably it's the fast degree of

(02:40):
the draft bat.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I've been waiting for that.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Shador Sanders fell to the fifth round, as we famously
have have have heard, and thank god that Donald Trump
said something, because if it wasn't for him, then Shador
definitely wouldn't have gotten drafted three whole ass rounds later.
So Pat, I'm gonna kick make it to you. What
do you make of the shaduor Sanders situation? Right?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Do my best non stephen A. Smith impression.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Or do a stephen A Smith impression? We talk about
what it's like to be a god? Since that, since
that's wheelhouse.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
We all know looking at the film that Shadoor Sanders
can play football. We know that, Well, what the hell
is going on? I mean, you're going in for a
job interview and you're not even prepared. You don't even
prepare for the job. I understand, and let's get real,

(03:43):
I understand the magnitude of energy that Shadoor Sanders brings
to a football field. Okay, that being said, you are not.
You are not better than anyone else in that room

(04:05):
in that moment.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
You are not.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
You are no better. They are human just as much
as you are human. You are there to present yourself
as to why you would be a valuable addition to
their program. It's not the team's duty to sell you
on why you should want to come to their team.

(04:31):
That's not how this works. You are getting drafted. You
are trying to get picked by one of these teams.
You cannot think that you are bigger than the organization.
You cannot think that you are bigger than the shield.
You cannot think that. And I had my own questions
after the first round. I was like, man, what the like,

(04:54):
what the hell is going on? I thought for sure
Pittsburgh was going to come back and take it. I
thought it was like all all sudden that.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
I thought for sure Shador was going to twenty one.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I thought if and I knew that he would, you know,
he's got a he's confident. Like That's the thing is
he's so confident. And that's fine. Be confident as a
football player. That's there's no problem in that.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
There's confident, especially as a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Absolutely there is confident. There is a fine line though,
between confidence and arrogance.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, preach and.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
And when I was looking around on Thursday night and
I came across that h Todd mc the McShay cliff,
I went back and I listened to the show for myself.
To me, m m mm hmmm, that was a that

(05:52):
like I was like, oh, no, wonder the team sent
you stuff to prepare for your private meeting and workout.
Now people here like install package or like play like
they oh, they sent him the playbook. And I've seen
people say like, oh, well, why does he need to
learn their playbook and blah blah blah. It's not about that.

(06:13):
It's about you being able to take that information, process
it and understand that when you're in your job interview
that you are prepared for what they are going to
ask you. Because this is not just a This is
not just oh, I'm here to like meet with ownership

(06:35):
and all that stuff. They want to see how fucking
smart you are, and they want to see if you
can handle being an NFL quarterback. Being an NFL quarterback
is a privilege. People work hard for that shit, and
they get paid a lot of money, and first round picks,
especially get paid a lot of money. The Giants had him,
he was their QB one, He was their QB one

(06:56):
confirmed up until they met with him. How you present
yourself in those situations, showing how prepared you can be,
showing that you understand whatever language. We also heard last
season Sean Payton was glowing about how bo Nicks was

(07:18):
so prepared in their meeting and oh yeah, We sent
him three days worth of install packages and he had
every he had everything down.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Why they took him, That's like, that's the reason they
took me. That's why didn't trade up for McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
And remind me Mario. Didn't a lot of people say
that that was an awful pick at the time. Didn't
a lot of people say that now this is terrible.
We don't know what goes on in in in these
meetings and behind closed doors. A guy who didn't have uh,
you know, probably doesn't have the most production in college

(07:54):
could go into a meeting and fucking wow some coach
with his knowledge and his ability to take in information
and hold it in between the years and wow them
and then be a quality quarterback for them for however long.
That's what bo Nix is for. Sean Payton and Shador

(08:16):
Sanders had every opportunity to show these teams why he
is worthy of being a first round pick because the talent.
The talent said that second round, second round talent in
a weak class, yeah you should be a first rounder

(08:37):
if you're if you've got second round talent in a
week quarterback class, you absolutely should be. You probably will be.
There's gonna be some harm.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
He should have undoubtedly been the second quarterback taken.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I agree, I don't like based on his play and
his talent, I agree completely. But there's a reason cam
Ward went first, and it's because of how he conducted
himself in those job interviews. That is what separates this.
And I love going back to their little videos back
and forth because you see how competitive cam Ward is

(09:09):
and you see like how he talks to Shador. He's
putting Shador in his place like he really.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Was those exchanges.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, yeah, And so I think his fall. Now's the
opportunity for you to prove to everybody, like go to Cleveland,
beat out Dylan Gabriel, My god, the fraud. Get him
out of there. But they took him before Shador for

(09:42):
a reason because he like to got to see the
assistant quarterback coach at a coaching clinic from Oregon, and
he had nothing but amazing things to say about Dylan,
And like the all the reporting that has come out
has said that like Gabriel was awesome, and then like
I don't doubt that at all, but this guy, like,

(10:04):
come on, Shador is much more talented than that. He
has the tools if he can figure out, like if,
honest to god, if he can figure out how to
not take sex work through your progressions, because you're gonna
be in somebody else's offense. This isn't fucking Pat Shermer's
La Di Da offense. This is Kevin Stefanski's offense. That

(10:26):
is going to be pretty complicated, a lot of a
lot of herbage. It's gonna be people. Can people complain
about Sean Payton play calls? My goodness, go read a
fucking Cleveland Brown's playbook. It's crazy, But like he's gonna
have to show why he's the guy. And what better
opportunity you've got Joe Flacco, Joe, I'm not gonna I'm

(10:49):
not gonna take this rookie under my wing. Blacko, You've
got job I can't even say his name, My goodness,
You've got also Kenny Pickett. I'm example of a team
reaching on a quarterback in the first round. He's in
that room, Dylan Fraud Gabriel And you've got a chance

(11:12):
like you legitimately, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Has a chance. And honestly, Patt, he probably doesn't need
to do that well because quantity, quantity does not quantity
does not equal quality. That quarterback room is full, and
it's bad.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Of bare minimum. You just have to do the bare
minimum and you could start. Watson's not gonna play, right Flacco.
Flacco could very well be that he could very well
be the starter going in the season, very well to lose.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
If I'm if I'm putting money on it, and I'm
not a degenerate gambler like Frankie, but if I'm putting
money on it, then I'm absolutely betting on Flacco to
be the weak one starter. Yeah, You're absolutely right, Pat.
I mean, at the end of the day, it's the interviews.
He's a second round talent who would be a first
round draft pick as a quarterback because that's how valuable

(12:09):
the quarterback position is. If he didn't have a step
brothers ass interview, I mean, who's to say that that
man didn't walk into his meeting with Brian Dable and
just rip a massive file. Whether he went in there
in a tuxedo with Shiloh or Darius Sanders or Dion
Sanders Junior, with the whole film crew and they just

(12:29):
go sit next to Brian da Bole and say, oh,
we're here to fuck shuit up, And what's funny pat
is that probably would have been better than what he did.
Like it goes so far beyond. And I'm leaving this
comment up from Boggins for a reason because we know
that Shador has like tried to model his game after
Tom Brady, and I know Boggins is being a little

(12:50):
tongue in cheek. But the one thing, the one main
thing that Shador does have that you absolutely cannot teach
is he's got that dog in him. The moment is
never too big for him. And a quarterback either has
that clutch gene or they don't. Everything else can be coached,
everything else can be learned. He has a good enough arm,

(13:13):
he has good enough athleticism to be a starting quarterback
in this league. He's not gonna be like He's not
gonna be looking like bo Nicks was out there like
ripping off thirty forty yard scramble gains. He's not gonna
be completing seventy four air yard passes. But he is
more than serviceable and he's more than capable of being
a good quarterback. And I see this going one of

(13:35):
two ways for Shador. One way is that he's humbled
by this and he learns from the experience and realizes
that he's not God's gift and that he's actually gonna
have to put in the work. And I don't think
he's scared of hard work, like that's not a problem.
But he has lived his life entitled and it's not
his fault, but that was his surroundings. Okay, that's how

(13:57):
he was. So he's either gonna be humbled by this
and learn from it, or he's gonna continue doing the
same shit that he has been doing and he's going
to maintain that same overly cocky attitude and he's never
going to be a starter in this league. And I
don't think there's an in between.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I felt like I really felt like Pittsburgh was gonna
be the place because I was like, man, what would.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Have been a perfect place for him with Tom Win.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
But it's also yeah, and it's It's what it came
down to for me, was if there's anyone who is
going to be able to handle the personality, because you
know there's personality, you know there's an ego. That's fine,
like I love Here's the other thing too, that I've
noticed teams will also look at how you treat people

(14:48):
on and off the field, and there's quite a few
videos out there of him doing some things in games
that I would not tolerate as a coach. The whole
ball boy thing was that was one thing where I
was like, that's not a good look. That that was

(15:08):
not a good look, poking players in the eyes, doing
all that ship. Like, bro, you're the quarterback, get you
get your ass back in the huddle. Stop talking ship please,
like talk your ship to the other team. Leave other
people out of it, man, Like show them with show
them with your play. Talk your ship. That's fine, but
don't take it overboard. And there was a few times

(15:29):
where he took it overboard and teams probably look at
that too. And then compare with compared with the meeting
and like and how you you know, go about yourself, Like, sorry, man,
you gotta be professional here, Like you have to be professional.
You can't walk into meetings and like not completely be
prepared for what.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
You gotta chance. You gotta channel that ship, man, you
gotta channel it like Baker Mayfield. You know how many
people pretended to have a problem with what Baker Mayfield
didn't call it grabbing his crotch, but that was fuel
for him that guy him going because he knows how
to channel that.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, and I've heard, like I heard Chase Daniel talk about,
you know how how Dion said he was going to
Eli Manning and like, dude, not a good look, Like,
but like who gives a shit about you know what
he has to if he is going to make it
in this league. It's interesting because I was listening to

(16:28):
I was listening to Rassini and Daniels, and like Daniels said, like,
do teams really want this quarterback who is like a
like a backup quarterback? You're going to be a backup
quarterback on any other team? And like do they want
this guy who you know has all this circus media
and da da da da da, And like it's just

(16:50):
like you've got to be You've got to separate yourself
from the Dion brand at this point, Like you graduated
from Colorado, you got your jersey retired. Now is it
time for you to go make your own story. We
can't keep talking about like, oh, look who my daddy is,
Like yeah, dude, your your dad was an amazing football
player and had his own one of.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
The greatest football players.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Seen, one of the greatest athletes of all times, always
will be, and his his persona, his aura, all that
is for him. Now it's time for you to go
off and do your own thing like me. Like you,
you want to win super bowls? Isn't that the goal
your dad? Like your dad wanted to win super bowls?
That if that's your goal, you have to understand what

(17:35):
it takes to play quarterback in the NFL, and that
means being a professional day in day out. We have
got to separate ourselves. We have like you, have to
make that separation. Be your own person, make your own story,
leave the other ship behind. You cannot go into these
meetings to the point where the coach is calling you

(17:58):
out for not being prepared, and then you care. You
get mad that the head coach of the football team
that has you as the number one quarterback on their board.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Your potent, your potential boss can be your boss.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
You get mad at that, of course they're not going
to draft you. And then Dabel goes and tells other
head coaches, yeah, this was my fucking experience with this.
Holy shit, what a shit show.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
And yeah, you don't think that that You don't think
that that stuff spreads. You don't think that dabel Is.
You don't think that Daboll and Joe Shoon are talking
to other coaches and gms like, hey, how did your
interview with shadurgo? Oh it was terrible. Let me tell
you all about it. There's a reason that teams were
taking him completely off of their board, and.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
He did it to himself.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
He has to be grounded in reality. He's got to
stop surrounding himself with glad handing yes people and and look,
I understand why he's in this position. I do. But
this is not like you hear talk people talking about, Oh,
this is collusion in the league. This is any time,
billion dollar industry teams, teams if you're hitting on a quarterback.

(19:15):
We've been in Denver. If you hit on a quarterback,
your fortunes turn like that one hundred and eighty degrees.
Do you think that out of the out of spite
in their hearts, like misdirected spite, that a team would
be willing to risk turning around their future just to
send a message of collusion your delusion.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Crazy, It's crazy. No, there's no colluding. It's just the
fact that teams talk to each other and they say, yeah,
you probably don't want this guy in your locker room.
Like like, I'm I have seen so many conversations of
people online talking about this, and I'm like, hey, uh,
maybe coaches just don't want to deal with that. Did

(20:00):
we ever think about that? Do we ever think a
year's fault? Maybe one we should just look at it
and say, there's multiple people reporting this. It's not just
one person, it's multiple people. Multiple coaches shared the same
experience that it's not like players can be at fault.

(20:23):
Players can have bad interviews. It's okay, that can happen, right,
Maybe it's not his day. But when you go walk
in and say, I I don't need to prepare for this,
I know like here, matter of fact, Mario, I did
not read your install packages, and here is why you
should take me. Ninth. Overall, the team's gonna look at

(20:45):
you and say.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Your ball's a tug. There's no way.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Good. We're good. Yeah, work, Yeah, I think that'll do it. Yeah,
we're okay.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
We're probably grateful because it made their decision.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Why why why did Tyler Shuck go before Shador Sanders?
I don't know, Maybe because he conducted himself as a
professional in his.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Interviews he's not a better quarterback. It's all things that
happened behind the scenes, that's all it was. It was
his for the taking.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
You could have played with DK and George Pickens and
Pat Fryar move that offense would have been insane. They
would have been crazy. But now he gets to throw
the Milik name or no, sorry, I keep thinking.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Not Milig, Jerry Judy.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
That's gonna be a really dynamic to keep an eye on.
Lord have mercy, all right. So that's those are our
thoughts on Shador And now the moment you have all
been waiting for. With the twentieth pick in the first
round of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the Denver
Broncos surprised a lot of people pat and they selected

(22:08):
John Dave Baron defensive back from Texas. Now, eventually we're
gonna get the vlogout from our draft party, which was
a huge success. If you were able to come out
to that, thank you. We had a blast. It's gonna
be bigger and bigger and better next year. And I
gotta say like the reaction was interesting and it felt

(22:28):
very similar, at least to me to my reaction of
the Patzertan pick back when it happened in twenty twenty one,
because you're like the At first, I was shocked because
I was so sure it was gonna be a running
back and I had tunnel vision. And then I kind
of stepped back from the situation, and then I was like, wait,
John nay Barron was still on the board. He was

(22:50):
in my top ten. How was he still there? And
then it's like, you know, because we're at the party,
we're doing our best to track all of the picks,
and I was like, I had no idea that he
even available. So anybody trying to write this off as
a panic pick, as certain individuals in the Denver media
tried to do, the same kind of individuals that refused

(23:12):
to admit that Patrick's Ertan was the correct pick over
justin Fields. To this day, they maintained that that was
the right thing. If that's the kind of person talking
about the draft, Pat, maybe don't take their opinion too seriously.
Maybe don't stake so much of your own opinion off
of these people who are clearly not doing their due diligence.
These kind of people clearly only researched wide receivers, tight

(23:34):
ends and running backs, because why they were the biggest
three needs. Maybe a couple of defensive linemen snuck in there,
because we heard reports a couple months ago that, oh,
keep in mind, like the Broncos might go d line
and I would have been fine with it. But here's
the situation, and I'm gonna lay it out for you, Pat,
and you tell me what you think of it, and
then we'll talk about whether or not he has main
character energy. The report was that the Broncos basically had

(23:58):
a trade in place with the Giants because they wanted
to come up to get Jackson Dart. They wanted to
make sure they got in front of Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh obviously
they still need a quarterback. I don't know who they
even have. They know they drafted someone late, and that's
another situation. They yeah, they passed on Shador repeatedly because
maybe they we think that they get Aaron Rodgers, but

(24:18):
we're not sure. They don't super have a quarterback right now. Anyway,
that was the trade in place where the Broncos we're
going to go back to I think it was thirty
four with the New York Giants. The Giants were going
to come up probably secure what like an additional second
or third round pick or something. So the report was
that their plan was to trade out of the first,
take Traveon Henderson at thirty four, and then either take

(24:40):
Mason Taylor with that next pick or maneuver their way
up so that your first two picks are Traveon Henderson
and Mason Taylor, which I would have loved. But you
look at a guy like John Day Baron, who was
a complete game changer, who was you know, not including
Travis Hunter the best dB, and maybe even including Travis
Hunter the best dB in this class by a pretty

(25:03):
wide margin for my money, and he falls to you
all the way at twenty. They don't take the trade
and instead they opt for jah Day Baron at twenty
and then they drafted RJ. Harvey, who will get to
So I guess my question for you, Pat is which
of those combos would you have preferred? Looking back at
it now, would you have preferred the tray Von Henderson

(25:24):
Mason Taylor stack or do you like the joh Day
Baron RJ. Harvey stack? And is Jah Day Baron main
character energy worthy?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Jah Day Jah Day Baron. Let me start with the
main character thing. He is absolutely main character energy. Honestly,
I'm I'm pretty happy. I'm pretty happy with the Jahde
Baron R. J. Harvey combo because what they Henderson went

(26:01):
at thirty eight, So yeah, if you were at thirty
four wherever New York was, you probably would have got
him right and fun back. But like him and R. J.
Harvey are pretty similar in a lot of ways. I Henderson,
I think is probably the better receiver of the two

(26:22):
and the better pass protector, but still skill set is relative.
Jakwan McMillan, last year was a lot of fun, but
we need to be very honest with ourselves. A lot
of mistakes, a lot of missed opportunities, not the best

(26:46):
effort all the time, but still super fun play. They
saw an opportunity where they can upgrade, and George Peyton
even talked about We're probably gonna upgrade out a position
where you know, people think we're fine. Yeah, definitely showing

(27:07):
his mom love. But this dude automatically upgrades our defense.
I think he's a He's the chest piece that they
needed on defense. And this it's even scarier, right It's
it is even scarier right now. Mason Taylor would have
been a lot of fun. The tight end room for
me is still a concerned not good but ideal. It's

(27:30):
not ideal, and I don't think I don't think Caleb
Blewner is going to be the answer there, but I
think there's some areas where they can still stand to improve.
I'm still so fine with us really dialing in our
defense because they got smoked down the stretch really bad
and it was really concerning. Right, You remember how stressed

(27:54):
we were going into that final week make or break
because we had games where we just fell flat on
our ass. This makes this makes it a lot better.
This is a much better option. A defense can still
help an offense in tremendous ways. And you just got

(28:15):
like you had one of the best defenses in the
league last year and it got better perfect. This offense
is still coming along. You added a running back. Who Ye,
he's on the wrong side of the twenties. He's twenty
four years old. He's still got juice. He's got some juice,

(28:38):
and he's gonna be a lot of juice. He is
going to be a lot of fun, is he like?
I think it'll be fun to look back and compare
r J Harvey to Trayvon Henderson, It'll be fun to
look back and see how one does. I think he's
gonna be a much better receiver, and he's probably gonna

(29:00):
be a lot better in that department. But I think
there's still room for R. J. Harvey to grow. And
the way that Sean Payton was talking about him made
me feel pretty confident about it. He really hasn't shown
me an opportunity to doubt what he's doing. I think,

(29:21):
you know, not to sound all major Homer, but like
I if him with Bo Nicks kind of showed everybody,
I kind of know what the fuck I'm talking about.
I know what I'm doing. Just need to get just
needed to get his feet a little wet. He's he's
coming back. He was cooking last year as play caller.
There were times where he faltered. That's always gonna happen,

(29:44):
but he was cooking last year. I'm gonna I'm gonna
trust what this man says. So Jade baron Ja da
gonna be so fun to watch as le bronco I
and I really hope that this pick brings us a
lot more turnovers on defense. I think that it's gonna
be a lot more ball production. These us are gonna
be flying whu fungas in there, Like he's gonna be

(30:06):
able to move all over the field outside inside, He'll
play in the fucking box like he is not afraid.
I get Kareem Jackson vibes a little bit, a little
bit just because of his size, but man, he can tackle.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
He is a sound around.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Oh man, he will. He can wrap up anybody. So
gonna be really fun to watch. He's gonna be able
to come down into the flats really well. I like
his his i Q was off the fucking charts. Like
It's gonna be a lot of fun. So definitely main
character energy. I'm really excited. I cannot believe that he

(30:43):
fell that far.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Uh. I was Miami.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
I thought it was gonna be Miami, and I was like,
I was shocked by who they took, but it.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Had to be Miami. They're about to lose Ramsey m hm.
And And that was what George Kayen had said, right
they were keeping an eye on Miami. I think they
said that he was I think they said that Baron
was ninth on their big board, which is tremendous, and
that's what you're looking for. In drafts. You know, people
get and I referenced it earlier, people get tunnel vision.

(31:14):
All of these people doing all these mock drafts. You
and I included Pat like we're guilty of it too.
But the problem is real, he put it out there
for the general public. It warps their reality of like
what can happen. I loved o'mari and Hampton in December,
I called Omari and Hampton to the Broncos and it
was there for the taking. But was I disappointed?

Speaker 2 (31:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Why because last year.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
I got that same tunnel vision and I was disappointed
in the bone Nicks pick because I was all aboard
the JJ McCarthy train, and that was something that you
and I had talked about ad nauseum path between each other,
how much we liked JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Now. Granted he is an incomplete still because he got
hurt before the season, so we have no idea what
JJ McCarthy he is and what he's all about. But
I could sure it shit tell you, I'm hyped as
fuck about bow Nicks now, So I wasn't gonna make
that same mistake twice, you know, as that border song
and JJ McCarthy was getting closer and closer and closer Denver,
and I'm thinking they can trade up for him, they

(32:15):
can go get him. Sean Payton never wanted him. He
had ample opportunity to do so. And not only did
he not want to go get JJ mccar car at
the and preferred third boon Nicks, he finessed the vikings
and then told everybody all of the confidence in the

(32:37):
universe in your guy, you are not putting that kind
of pressure on him where you're like, oh yeah, I
totally tricked them into thinking that I was going to
trade up for him. They panicked, they moved, and they
went up and got him. I didn't even really want him.
If that was the case, great good job, Sean. But
then he came publicly and said it, and all the

(32:59):
pressure was on bo Knicks because now Bo, you really
have to outperform JJ. Those two are gonna be linked forever,
and I hope that they're both healthy for the entire
season so that we can see, you know, on a
full scale, who really got the better end of that deal.
And of course I'm leaning bon Nicks in this situation.
So that takes me back now to the jahday. Baron situation.

(33:22):
They had a plan. They had a plan with bon Knicks,
they had a plan with jah Day barn and George
Payton said, as soon as he got past thirteen, they're
looking at the other teams and they're like, we don't
think anybody else is gonna take this guy. And if
you can get someone in the top ten. And keep
in mind, something that we talked about on this show
was the lack of blue chip process. There were gms

(33:47):
around the league that said they had first round grades
on anywhere between ten to fifteen guys in a thirty
two person round. That means that only half of the
guys that went in the first round were considered for
round talents. And you don't think that the Broncos would
want to get a top ten talent at twenty. It's
a no brainer. We are talking about value. We are

(34:09):
talking about what he brings to a football team, and
anybody that has a problem with the pick does not
know ball or would they just want to spout out
us some bullshit for clickbait. But you and I don't
do that. We're real. We criticize when it's necessary and
we give credit when credit is due. And this was

(34:30):
absolutely the right pick, and time will tell that today
Baron is the ultimate main character energy dude, and I
will take it a step further and talk about r J. Harvey.
Since we were pairing them together, they traded back a
couple of times. I see RJ. Harvey as the main
character energy guy pat, but he's more like Luigi. Okay,
Baron is super Mario. Okay, he is the ultimate main character.

(34:55):
Was r J. Harvey your first pick? Not necessarily? Is
he gonna get the job done? You damn right? Because
he's got main character energy? Yeah? I think went on there.
Oh sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Oh, I was just gonna say, I think r J.
Harvey is gonna be a lot of fun, and I'm
I'm pretty excited. I'm excited to have a good, solid
run game again.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I don't know how, David, main character energy is good.
You want to have main character energy because you either
have main character energy or you're an NPC, a non
playable character. You don't want to be an NPC. Okay,
so yeah, main character good, NPC bad? Thank you, David.
Now we can continue. I'll tell you what I like

(35:43):
the most about the Broncos third round draft pick. It's
his first name, if his name is Pat, then you
know that motherfucker is gonna be a dog. What do
you think of Pat Brian third round, seventy fourth overall.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
I think this move is gonna be one that's gonna
be scrutinized quite a bit, just because like so many
people had him valued at you know, whatever round. But
I mean, big body athlete, like he can get off

(36:24):
the line. I think that this is gonna be a
fun pick for Sean Payton. He's a receiver that he
can just kind of like move around. You know that
the blocking effort is there, Team captain, but I think
I think it's just gonna be one that is gonna
help with the quick game, not so like not so

(36:45):
much deep concepts or anything like that, but I think
it's gonna help them with the quick game a lot.
He says he's getting he gets Michael Thomas vibes, uh yeah,
like I get it. I get what he's saying there.
But at the same time, like looking at something like
watching Jalen Royals go was that was tough. So the

(37:08):
medicals had to be.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
The medicals had to be a massive thing. And speaking
of Michael Thomas, he had the same injury that Michael
Thomas had Otherwise, I feel like that's a second round
talent pat and And it's interesting with the Chiefs. They
did the same thing with Justin Ross. Remember Justin Ross
absolute dog and Clemson fell a way I think to
like the sixth round, sixth or seventh round, Kansas City

(37:32):
scooped him up and he was just never right. Now.
I'm not saying that that's going to be the case,
but to see a guy like Royals fall that far,
clearly there were some teams kind of tuned into what
the medicals were looking like. And the Chiefs are obviously
in that position where they're like, if it will take
him in the fourth or fifth or whenever they ended
up getting him, or might have even been later. Here's

(37:54):
my issue with the comparison to Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas
was an all pro wide rest. The only real comparison
that I can see outside of like the size, which
is such a general broad statement in comparison to make
I think it's his ability to disengage from press press
coverage at the line, and the Broncos seemed like they

(38:15):
didn't have a guy that could consistently get off of
the press coverage. That's what I'm seeing in Pat Bryant. Now,
people who were saying he's a reach, It's like, yeah,
he's a reach in your mind because that's where you
had him ranked. Right now. Who's to say, like, we
can sit here Pat all day and say, wow, they
could have gotten him in the fourth because I saw
a lot of that shit going on Twitter. You don't know,

(38:37):
there are thirty one other teams that are doing their
due diligence. And if the Broncos thought that he was
worth a third round draft pick, then there's probably a
good chance that they were not the only team that
thought he was worthy of a third round draft pick.
But the comparison to Michael Thomas, you know, it gets
back to like Sean Payton putting a lot of pressure
on a young player. Because now it's out there, Pat,

(38:57):
there's no getting away from it. What fans are gonna
see and what pundits are gonna see when they look
at Pat Bryant, They're gonna be like, all right, let's
see how he's like Michael Thomas. Is he gonna be
the slant guy? Is he gonna Is he gonna set
an NFL record for receptions in a season. That's that's
the kind of label that Sean Payton has put on
this guy right now. So why I'm trepidacious to give

(39:21):
him that main character energy. But he's not quite an
NPC like he's gonna have an impact in a crowded,
young wide receiver room. But I think the benefit that
he has Pat, it's like you have your wide receiver
one in Courtland Sutton at least for now, you got
your gadget guy slash, slot guy slash whatever you want
to call Marvin Mims. And then after that it's a

(39:41):
little bit of a toss up. Are we gonna see
progression from Troy Franklin? Are we gonna see progression from
Devon Vlay. I saw someone tried to compare Pat Bryant
to Tim Patrick, and someone said that Pat Bryant is
the Devon Lays of Tim Patrick's. That was funny. You
know you think he's main character energy. How do you

(40:03):
feel about him? Man?

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Another team captain? Look at that hold on, David.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I know what you're trying to do talking about at Perry.
At Perry is not anything Okay, At Perry is at
Perry and tell he plays one fucking snap for the Broncos. Okay,
and now they've created a monster because every time do
a show, no one want to talk about fucking at Perry. Okay,
and I don't even dislike the guy, but now it's

(40:31):
become a thing. So now we gotta do the at
Perry thing every fucking show. Okay, thanks David. He's not
Michael Thomas.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Caleb Lower is our Michael Thomas. That's a winner. That's
a winner, Cody act. That's fantastic. Oh my god. Now
I think Pat Bryant. Pat Bryant's got a little bit
a main character energy in him. Plus I think, you know,

(41:02):
would a guy like him be the type of guy
to read all of these like pre draft things about
him and then say, bet, I don't know, you tell me,
but the way that he the way that he conducts
himself on the field, I'll take that. I'll take that
all day.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I think he's in the third In the third round
with the one hundred and first pick, the Broncos took
save on Jones defensive end slash edge from LSU. Now,
admittedly this was a guy that was not completely on
my radar. I tried to commit most of my time,
you know, trying to research the positions that I thought

(41:43):
the Broncos would most target, and shows how much I
know because I didn't do a lot of research on
DB's They took a corner with their first pick. I
didn't do a lot of research on edds and edges,
and you know they they took. They took everyone with
the third round pick. So here we are pat thinking
that we're smarter than everybody, like, oh, they're gonna target
a defensive tackle with one of their third repicks. No. Yeah,
turns out they're not going to get a defensive tackle

(42:05):
at all. But what they did get is a man
who could very well be the heir parent of John
Franklin Myers, especially if all of this crazy contract drama
continues with JFM. So tell me your thoughts on say,
beyond Jones out of l s U.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I think he's a guy that, you know, if he
keeps putting on weight and he keeps working on his
pass rush moves, you know, if they kind if they
play him in some of these these wide techniques, I
think I think if they play him inside, the pass

(42:42):
rush will definitely be there. But this is kind of
what vance Joseph does right. Uh, he gets these defensive
ends that that are tweeterers. That's what i'd say. So
like little it won't help us in the run game,
I don't think. But I think with his past rush ability,
that's definitely your John Franklin Myers insurance. And I like

(43:06):
the fact that he says that he still has stuff
that he needs to work on. I think he's he's
a guy that's gonna come into this league a little hungry.
And I did see him on like a bunch of like,
oh this this guy's sleeper, this guy's sleeper.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
So I I think it's a it's a good pick
because that is an area where they you know, we
saw them taking some insurance there, so I think it
could be I think it it could pay off. But
as far as the player goes, I like him. I
think there's a lot to like there. I think there's
definitely some pass rush upside, especially with the next pick,

(43:45):
I believe. But I think that he's a guy that
Broncos Country is gonna like a lot, and man, you're
gonna be with in a room with JFM and Zach
Allen and DJ Jones and all those guys that it's
gonna be really really good for him playing probably playing
Roach inside and then you know him him in the
gap over.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
I think that that would be uh a really good combo.
So yeah, let me let me, let me paint you
a picture. You're playing Sonic the Hedgehog.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
And and and for the for the majority of the
time that you're playing Sonic, you're playing with Sonic. But
every once in a while you need tails.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Oh and tails not the mainest of characters, but he
is is a he right, his tales confirmed a boy?

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Are they gender? Gender fluid doesn't matter. Every once in
a while you need to use tails. So in this room,
Zach Allen is Sonic. He's the guy save On Jones
could very well be Tales because in certain situations you
can really get a lot out of him. And for
what it's worth, save On Jones. He kind of reminds

(44:59):
me the Quinn Miners pick. And I'll explain why. When
they took Quinn Miners, it was because he had a
fantasticastic Senior Bowl. He wasn't on a lot of teams radars.
He was kind of like an under the radar guy.
He had a fantastic senior Bowl to the point where
people were blown away by what he did. I saw

(45:20):
a lot of the same with Savion Jones. He had
a really, really good Senior Bowl. So in that sense,
you know, when they took Quinn Miners, wasn't a big
position of need. Wasn't a guy really high up on
a lot of boards, at least from what we saw,
and he ended up being an absolute monster. So if
Savion Jones can have that sort of impact, a guy
that dominated at the Senior Bowl and kind of forced

(45:42):
his way onto their big board, this can end up
being a fantastic pick for this team, especially if when
they're renewing all these contracts they don't call jfm's number
in the fourth round with the one hundred and thirty
fourth pick. Maybe the biggest surprise here, Pat in this draft. Yeah,
what do you go? Hanging on?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Kodiak brings up a good point, Benito setting the edge.
Don't love it at all, So I think that this.
I think he's got a good point sliding him outside
against run teams, because if he can set an edge,
that's something they needed bad. Benito was awful at setting edges,

(46:22):
so good point, Kodiak, kudos.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
He was really good a good after the quarterback. But
David said, I've been told that Q makes beneath it
spend the one. I think it's I think it's a
little yeah, No, I think it's a little one. I
think it's a little early making to make in determinations
of that. Yeah, what do you What do you think

(46:49):
about Q Robinson where they took him? Pat, I know
he's a big time special teams guy. You're a big
time special teams guy. That's kind of where he's gonna
cut his teeth. Where are we at with this pick?

Speaker 2 (47:01):
We gotta main character energy from this guy. You're kidding me.
Best special teamer that Saban ever coached. You're crazy. Look,
Sean Payton's going to invest in Sean Payton's going to
invest in special teams. It's a massive part of the game. Yeah,
I know that one was he was a little overdrafted,

(47:23):
but he was edge. What was it edge like twenty one?
I think for Brugler and he went like nineteenth. I
think he's like edge nineteen or something. So it was like, eh,
but I love the special teams concept. There were some

(47:47):
areas and special teams last year that the Broncos needed
to improve upon. It's weird to draft special teamers but
have him before and like fourth round and on. You're
drafting guys you want to develop, and that's the best
way to develop them special teams. So I think if
he brings that energy, uh, you know, he goes into

(48:10):
camp and they give him some opportunities to rush the
passer or you know, playing different spots in the defense,
I think he's gonna take that and run with it.
But his special team, he is going to be on
the field for special teams, no doubt. A lot of
people might not lockey like it. It doesn't really matter.
I think the I think the pass rush capabilities are

(48:33):
definitely there. He's got some length to him.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
He's got crazy lengths, Ben I believe, if I'm remembering correctly,
he was in like the ninety fifth percentile for length
among edge rushers.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah. Yeah, And so special teams was especially since scotten
better every year. They last year was so last year
was so much fun to watch. Still some areas they
can improve on, though, and I think that, yeah, this
is yes, hilariously on clutch and like they're going to

(49:09):
get their guys and they don't give a ship if
they have to spend on special teams. I think they
think they're in a really good place offensively. So that
back half of the draft was like basically Rizzy just drafting,
you know, you know, like Sean was like, all right,
I'm good, Uh, bust out the Perky's and Riz you
can take this over, because that's what it felt like. Loner.

(49:32):
He's gonna he's gonna play on special teams, No doubt
he's gonna play on special teams. But Sean's gonna, you know,
start figuring out ways he can sneak him into certain
packages and stuff. But he's gonna mostly play special teams
and then obviously you know the greatest one. But uh,
for Quay, I think that he's got some main character

(49:54):
energy to him. Uh, he's gonna be a lot of
fun to watch on special teams. That tape is gonna
be so juicy, can't wait to watch.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
I think a similar com that I have for Q,
and it's someone that Broncos Country will be familiar with,
is Baron Browning. You have a big, long, physical dude
who has crazy bend for his size and he has
crazy length. Now, unfortunately we never got to see the
Baron Browning vision come to fruition because he couldn't stay

(50:23):
on the field. And if you ever do this into
this show, you you know that I'm the biggest Baron
Browning supporter and lover of all time, and I think
that he's going to have a tremendous career in Arizona.
But that is that is a decent com for Key
Robinson here and you're talking about a guy and Paul, listen,
I know you think that they were where they were

(50:45):
drunk or hire both on Day three. Here's the thing
with this pick, Paul, let me put your mind at
these a little bit. When you are drafting edge rushers,
and you can even look at the edge rushers that
were taken earlier in this draft, the production wasn't necessarily
there for a lot of these guys. You are drafting
tools and you are hoping that you can develop said
tools into production at the NFL level. That's what I

(51:05):
think the Broncos are doing here. And they have an
insurance policy built in. Do you want to make a
habit of taking special teamers in the fourth round? No?
But what you the way that you have to look
at it is he will start on special teams immediately.
He will have an impact on special teams immediately. If
he grows into even a situational pass rusher, you bring

(51:26):
him in on third downs to get after the quarterback,
and he can do that, then you have more than
He has, more than worth his weight in gold, because
you're already getting the special teams production out of him.
He has things that you cannot coach as an edge rusher.
He has that crazy burst, he has that crazy bend.
He's incredibly flexible for being what is it sixty five

(51:49):
two forty five, two fifty whatever. He's running guys who
are six y five should not have crazy bend, and
he does so. If they strike out and he doesn't
turn into like a fantastic edge rusher, oh well, I
think he'll be a situational, solid guy and you'll get
the special team's production. You're hoping that he can be
an Elvis Boomerville type. Now there there. Composition is very different,

(52:12):
but their lengths are similar. That was what made Duomerville
so great was his insane length, even though he was
like five to eleven, which is why he went in
like the fourth or fifth was short. But it's a
similar the short King. But it's a similar reach, So
you're getting an edge rusher who's getting his hands on
the tackle before the tackle can get their hands on him.

(52:34):
Moving on to the sixth round, Pat, and I know
this was definitely your favorite pick. And I'm pretty sure
we mocked this guy when we did our mock draft
a few weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Uh Nick Benito only played three hundred and fifty seven
snaps his rookie season.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Oh how many sacks did he have his rookie season? Pat? Four?
Or five?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Is it even five? See, he had to he had
to sit and learn. Second round pick.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
So you're telling me if Ke Robinson doesn't contribute on
defense this year, that we shouldn't freak the fuck out.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
No, there's no reason.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Sounds completely reasonable.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
He played round season.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
In the sixth round, the Broncos made the splash of
the draft, and they went out and they got themselves,
Jeremy cross Shaw from down on that get all, Jemmy Crosshaw,
that Pina from Florida. Mate, how do we feel about
this pick? Pat? I know that Joey with some sixth

(53:39):
round punter action.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
This bugg is gonna cannon attest to his leg. Let
me tell you, boy, he this kid can kick man.
Something I noticed when I was watching the Frankie films
cut up. He's got pretty good lead control, meaning so
like those shorter, you know, middle of the field situations

(54:03):
where don't want to boom it because you know it's
going to go into the fucking end zone, but you
want to pin them.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
He knows how to control his uh his leg angles,
that's for sure. Knows when to boot it, understands.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
He's got pretty good fucking spin on that ball too.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Only four touchbacks last year, Pat twenty five. The home
time touch back is crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah, the the time number might be. I feel like
some it could be deflated because of some of his kicks,
because when you're trying, he.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Was playing in really thick air down there in the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
But like also but also with those types of kicks,
you also don't want a ton of hang time on them.
You kind of want to get them out quick and
uh tend you tend to put a little bit of
spin on him so they'll either come back or go
out of bounds or put enough back spin on it

(55:09):
so that it stays in bounds and the returner is
you know, fucked in his decision making, so he panics
and has to catch it, you know, so those balls
naturally won't have as much hangto but this kid has
a pretty fucking good leg. So uh, I'm kind of excited.
And I know Rizzy really really likes his punters to

(55:32):
be good with directional kicking, and so that was probably
something that they were looking at. At the Senior Bowl.
Frankie was there watching them scout him. He was probably
president when Rizzy was like, Oh, yeah, that's that. That's
our fucking guy right there. Give me, give me that
Australian some bitch, give a shrimp on the body. I'm

(55:54):
excited to excited to see some good punk coverage.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Te Fish wants to know when's the next Grade eight
show subjects what's up, dude? First office in Gaye eight.
But thank you for watching. We will get another Engage
eight maybe in about a month or so. See, we
can't do it all the time because then that takes
away from the allure of Engage eight and really quick, Paul,
I love you for always watching, but let me just
address this real quick man. They never asked Baron to

(56:21):
move back in Sidelast Cheer. That was not a thing.
Baron Browning was an edge rusher. It was only Vic
Fangio that tried to make him play middle backer. George
Payton never wanted him to play middlebacker when they drafted Baron.
George wanted him to be an edge as soon as
Vick was gone, and he didn't have to keep forcing
Baron inside. He was an edge rusher, and he was

(56:42):
a damn good edge rusher until he got hurt. So
thank you, Paul, we love you, thank you for watching.
But yeah, they never asked him to move inside. And
I love this reference right here, Pat. He was six
foot four and full love muscle, and I think that's crusha.
I think he's actually six five. But that's a great
pull right there. Frankie. I have no interest in you

(57:05):
being dead inside, but I'm sorry to hear it. I
guess go go hug your cat, Frankie. With their seventh
round pick, the two hundred and forty first overall pick,
Caleb Loner Lonner Lanere, tight end out of Utah, all
six foot six, one eighth inch of him two hundred
and fifty pounds. The thing that gives me most bricked

(57:26):
up about this dude, Pat, former basketball player. I love
me some tight ends that are former basketball players. And
the best highlight I saw of him, and there weren't
many because he had four catches and it was four touchdowns,
so he had a very specific role. But it was
against CU and he's literally lined up out wide. He
gets his body on the defender and turns and foxes

(57:50):
him out like a power forward, high points the ball. Touchdown.
You give me four touchdowns a year out of this guy.
Four catches, four touchdowns, and they're all within the ten
five yard line. I'm fine with it. He's a seventh
round tight end. If he becomes nothing, you don't care, right,

(58:12):
And if he becomes something, and we assume that because
of what he did with Jimmy Graham that maybe Sean
Payton has a little bit sence, I know that they're
not the same. I'm just saying, if there's anybody that
has experience turning basketball players into fantastic tight ends, then

(58:32):
we should have some faith in Sean Payton. Disclosure or
disclaimer and not comparing this guy to Jimmy grat I
just want to make that clear. I think that Loaner,
but that's totally his ceiling.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
I think that Loaner has athletic traits obviously he's basketball player,
but we need to be we need to be for it.
They just spent a They just spent a draft pick
on a guy that has played like not even a
full season of football since the seventh grade. I like,

(59:12):
I get it. It's a like toolsy pick if you
see something that you like. You know, like I said,
he's probably gonna be a guy that if he's if
he's going to even make this.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Roster, which is a difference because he's a practice squad
guy this year. He's a practice guy.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Right, But I'm saying if he was even going to
make the roster, he would be truly a special teams
guy unless you're in like green red zone situations and
you're like, ah, fuck it, we're just gonna run two
tight ends and have him run up the fucking seam.
Like he hasn't taken a like has he been smacked
around yet?

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Act football pants are hard. Okay, they got the weird
belts and the buttons.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
I'm not gonna lie nervous for I'm nervous for him,
but Basta basketball's physical. King. Football is a different level
though NFL football, So I don't know. Maybe Sean will
protect this kid and saving you know, for red zone
situations and ship like that. But I'm going n PC.

(01:00:21):
We know how this plays out. Uh, I got of
making the roster over Atkins. I don't still.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
See Salamie that David because.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Oh ship, Lucas Kroll, Caleb Lowner can't battle.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
See the Lami things. Lucas Crawl is the best player
on this football Wait, see you better be you better
be careful.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
I'm gonna be all over Twitter that day just waiting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
It's gonna be a it's gonna be a hell of
a lot better than the Trevors Me and Paxton Lynch
camp back at all, like quarterback that we had to see. Dude,
I love it, Okay, I don't obviously don't want to
run through honestly, don't not so Uh. There's just a

(01:01:12):
couple of guys that I wanted to mention, Like first of.

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
All, First of all, we got h Clay Clay Webb
I believe his name is So he had some like
we had some like red flags or something going on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Pat, what was what was the deal with Clay web.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
The jizzler that's what we're calling him. Trademark trademark, trademark,
I cannot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I cannot wait to figure out what number he is.
I cannot wait to figure out what number he is,
so that we can get the number and then just
I'm gonna be just sixty and every everyone on the
what we're talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
David said, place Ray, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
That's there a decent amount of people who have no
clue what's going on. And you should consider yourself lucky
because it's disgusting. H if we could be serious. Though,
the UDFA that I really really liked on this list,
and I was surprised that he didn't get drafted was
Xavier Trust, the big tackle slash guard out of Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
This this is a low floor, high ceiling guy.

Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
Like, first of all, he's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
He's a monstrosity, Like, he is a very very large human.
He doesn't move really well, so pat I think he
might be more inclined to like like a heavy zone
type of scheme. Man. This is this is exactly the
kind of guy that you want as a UDFA. Doesn't
need to play this year, honestly, doesn't even need to
play next year, but he has an incredibly high ceiling

(01:02:52):
and if he can turn into something man, this might
of all the udfas that they sign. I think that
he has the best chance to make the fifty three
when it's all said and done. As a rotational guy.
He can play both tackle positions, he can play both
guard positions. He can be really interesting. Trademark the Gizler
before d NBR starts printing cancer clip web substance. I

(01:03:16):
can see the shirt now from d NVR. It's just
it's just little splotches. It just looks like a Jackson
Pollock painting. It's just his jersey looking like a Jackson
Pollock painting. Victory lap. You didn't have to do that, man, hilarious, Wiley, Yeah,

(01:03:45):
get back to a sense of normals. A year Ke
Robinson h Xavier Trust threw him on the ground during
a rep. I like Xavier Trust man like and again
U DFA could end up being nothing, could be a
really fun situational guy. Mike of course, had to get
his little uh Clay comment in Clay is coming for you? Nflrasing?

(01:04:06):
Are we still are we still doing? Are we still
doing phrasing? What UDFA do you like that? You know
this lasted an hour before we went off the rails.
That's a new that's a new record for US.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
So Karean read from Utah. I think it's an interesting
prospect at linebacker, smaller run defender, but I I could
see it uh position where it's probably going to be competitive.
So that's one. But man, Jerwan new Jerwan Newt from Toledo,

(01:04:44):
I'm trying. I was trying to pull up some of
his film just now. I looked at his numbers. I
was like, God, damn, he had some production. He that
could be a guy who can make the roster. I
don't know, he could push somebody. Is Troy Franklin was
still going to be on the bubble because Jawan Newton
might be going there. No, I'm all the faith in

(01:05:04):
Troy Franklin. But Juwan Newton that's someone to watch. But
him and Karine Reid probably my two beauty phase to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Another guy that I want to mention and then we'll
get out of here. Joaquin Davis, the kid from North
Carolina Central. I've not seen any of his film, but
I read up a little bit about him, And for
all the fans that were here's your perspective, Okay, all
of the fans that were upset that Pat Bryan ran
a four to sixty one. First of all, put the

(01:05:39):
film on, like, is he distancing himself from DB's No,
but he's he's film fast, Okay, he's field fast. He's
fast enough to get separation, he's fast enough to break
away from defenders when he needs to. Okay, But this kid,
Joaquin Davis, six foot four, ran a four four forty
at the HB Combine Standout Special Teams player strictly for

(01:06:05):
the measurables, and David is all hyped right now. Forty
inch vert that's insane for a dude that's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Six four mm hmm, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
So again it's a really high uphill battle. He went
to a small HBCU. But you know you're looking at
guys like these. These are the kind of guys that
you want as uda faced. Just like, get in the building,
throw in some passes and see what happens, right, because
he has things again that you can't coach. You can't

(01:06:36):
coach a dude to be six to four, and you
can't coach a dude who's six four to run a
four to four and have a forty inch for so
another guy to keep an eye on. And Paul wants
us all to know r J is a joker, you stroker,
Thank you so much. Pat. Anything else that you want
to you want to get in before we leave.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Nah, I think the draft, Puss was fine. I think
it was fine. They got some pieces. Am I like
over ecstatic about it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
You know, maybe not, but I think they got some
key special teamers.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
R J.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Harvey is gonna be a lot of fun to watch.
I'm excited for camp. Can't wait.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
You know why I think you know why I think
we're not over the moon about this, Pat, is because
we know too much and we put in too much
individual work into this. You know, we're not the filthy
casuals who play slaptick and ask other people to do
mock drafts for them so that they can go and
research the players afterwards. Okay, we're putting in the work,

(01:07:47):
like everybody over it. Let's talk Broncos every single person
in that room, they're putting in their own work. They're
watching their own film, they're reading their own scouting reports.
They're not relying on the general public to tell them
what to think. And so I think as a conglomerate,
as a group, we we pigeonholed ourselves into thinking like

(01:08:08):
that we knew more than we think that we do
right because we put the work in, but we're not
putting endless man hours into this the way that they are.
So I think the reason that we're not overly excited
is because they went in a different direction than maybe
necessarily we would have. And that's okay because they did
the same thing last season and it turned out pretty good. Uh,

(01:08:29):
why don't you really quick? Yeah, and that's let them
see the vision plug your plug, your show while we're here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
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Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Preemasis arguably, well not even arguably, she's the greatest human
being in all of let's talk Broncos, but for being
perfectly honest, there's a bunch of degenerates in that group,
and we set the bar incredibly low for me to
just walk right over All right, let's go Mario over Tansy,
that handsome bastardist Patrick Keyote. We are the mile high

(01:09:11):
Mead heeads. This has been altitude adjustment. We will see
y'all next week. Love y'all, Bye bye, Phil.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
I'm in the move for a switcher. I hit the
hit the rolations, I hit up, I hit the stage.
I leave with money that's extinct.