Leaks, Repairs & Retests

This week we talk about why fixing leaks can be a mechanic’s nightmare, why it makes sense to replace worn parts while you’re in there, and if older drivers should retake a road test to stay sharp. Tune in for this weeks show on Let's Talk Cars Radio!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
Happy Saturday, America. Your listen Let's Talk Cars Radio and
w KQA Freeam Radio. I'm your host, Big DAVP hanging
out with Camera Chaos and AVB. Hey, guys, hope you
enjoyed your fourth of July weekend. Uh it was awesome.
We have. I had a good time, man. I spent
a lot of time. I got to see a lot
of cool cars, got to hang out with friends, got
to listen to some great music.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
It really rounded out the weekend good. A lot of
cool cars out in the car show. You guys know
I love stopping in the car shows. Hanging out, kissing hands,
shaking babies or is it the other way around? You
guys know what I mean. But it was a good time.
It's really really nice to see when you run into
friends you haven't seen in a while, you catch up
with them. When it's the car culture and stuff. I

(01:29):
wish we had a couple of our cars done so
we could dig in there enjoy them. There they were.
I got some pictures. I can chance to share them
with you yet, but I did get some more pictures
of white noise and a couple of complications ran into it,
and it looks like they got it squared away. If
everything goes all right, I'm gonna say this for like

(01:50):
the hundred time, we should have it in our hands
here in the next week or so, and then we
can finish off with some of the things we know
we need to do. It's got a couple of other things.
We made some decisions on it for those been asking.
We're gonna do a couple of other things that I
think we really plan on kind of waiting on, but
we're just gonna go ahead and do them. The target
is at this point in time that if we go

(02:13):
with everything I want to do that, it should make
it out to the October show, so keep an eye
out for it, and you guys will see it. Good
news on the bad Am because keep on asking what's
going on with that? I told you guys, we did
get the last couple of parts in. I just need
to find some time to get in there and get
those parts on and see if they fit right. If

(02:33):
they do, the bad Am will finally back on its wheels,
on all four wheels and be rolling again, which will
be a huge milestone because it is a quick jump
from rolling to set the motor back down into it
and really starting to move forward on that. So fingers
crossed that ends up happening. But it's not what the
show is about. I'm going to start off the show
with a complete different topic something that came up. You

(02:56):
guys know, I tell you, I jump in a bunch
of forums, have conversations, talk with people, garage owners, all
kind of stuff. So the conversation this week that kind
of came around about was leaks. Rather it be an
oil leak, it be water leaks, whatever it is. And
that and when I'm not talking like rain water leaks,
I'm talking like hose water pump whatever and stuff. And

(03:18):
the biggest problem that a lot of garages kind of
fall into is let's say a customer brings the car
in right and they're like, look, I got an oil leak.
I'm not really sure where it's coming from. Can you
guys check it out? And of course, you know if
any garage is going to jump right on for the
most part, like sure, absolutely believe it or not. A
lot of garages hate leaks. I hated them when I

(03:41):
was in the business. I know a lot of owners
they hate them now. The biggest reason why is if
you've developed a leak in your car and you guys
know that for the build cars and work on those
of you listen to the show that do that. There's
a bunch of all the listen to the shows that
do not do that. You guys, just take your car
to repair shop while I get done. Great, this is
probably more for you than anybody else. But if not,
and you work on and you have leaks and you're
still chasing them, here's gonna be the reason why everything

(04:05):
that's liquid in a car takes the path of least
resistance and the reason why auto garage is in my
celf will like even working on my own stuff. I
hate leaks is because really truly for me to fix
most leaks, I'm not gonna say all leaks, but I'm
gonna say most leaks is I might as well go
ahead and just do it all. Whatever's in that area,

(04:28):
I might as well do it. If so, if I
have hose and it start to leak and it's by
the water pump and stuff like that, I'm starting to
see some moisture and I'm not sure. I am one
of those people that go I'm just gonna do it all.
I'm gonna do the water pump. I'm gonna go ahead
and do hoses on it. I'm gonna check everything. Why,
I just want it to be one time. I want
to do it one time. So do auto garages. Auto
garages a lot of times will work you up a

(04:49):
bill based on the fact of what they've seen in
the past, if that makes sense. So they're like, Okay,
been here before. I know if I just throw this
at it, most likely it's gonna come back. Why I
fix this sleek, but this over here is just as
weak as what this was before it broke. So I
might as well go ahead and just do everything why
I'm there, so I know the customer's not coming back. Well,

(05:11):
the biggest problem you run into in the automotive repair
businesses customer a lot of times doesn't want to hear that.
They just want to fix what's particularly broken right that second.
And that's where your knowledge isn't valued in what you do.
As far as I'm concerned, if you own an autobarage,
I don't feel the customer is valuing your knowledge into that.

(05:31):
So as a customer, if you're listening to the show,
you think about that a little bit. It's very frustrating
to know I can go ahead and I can fix this,
but chances are it's going to come back, and now
it's something else can be leaking. Oil leaks are the worst.
I hated oil leaks. Biggest reason say remain seal leak
because I fix the remain seal before I know it.
I get the remain seal, I can take transmission down

(05:53):
and get to the remain seal, and on the backside
of the engine, I can see where there's an oil leak,
what's coming like maybe from the ball comes and I
couldn't see until start getting with out of the way,
and I can see where things are leaking down, and
now it's another call to the customer. And it's like,
now that I'm here and I can really see things,
I can see where there's something leaking up from the top.
Rather it'd be an oil filter, housing starting to leak.
Other things, just things you couldn't really get your eyes.

(06:15):
And everybody goes, well, how'd you miss it? You're you're
not that good. I mean, you may believe you're that great.
And if you're that mechanic, hey, hey, terrific, good for you.
But I'm gonna tell youah, draw all these years of
doing it, you're gonna find things that you didn't see.
You're going to go after an oil leak, and why
you do messing with an oil leak. You're going to
see a cool on leak coming from somewhere, could be
a freeze plug. Everything just happened to somebody. I know

(06:36):
that's the reason why it's stuck in my brain, But
that happens a lot. I guess my question I posed
to you guys on this is how do you feel
if you brought your car to a shop and you
bring it Let's say we'll start with the simple A
water leak and they find the hose. He's like, look,
I see it looks like there might be a little
bit of sea bitch and surround the water pump and

(06:57):
stuff like that. The best way to do this is,
let's go ahead and just do the all the hoses
are on it. Let's go ahead and do the water pump,
even though you only found this over here leaking. What
do you think I'll start with you, Nathaniel.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Well, you know me, I'm all about preventive maintenance, so
I'm definitely going to work. You're right, I'm definitely gonna
go all away with you know, doing all the hoses.
You know, I see some people like, you know, only
one bad spark plugs the only place one.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
When you should just do all of them. Same thing
with the coil.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Packs, right, just because you're there and you know it
is say, you know, beg's that question, you know, do
you value time or money?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
And so knowledge or knowledge?

Speaker 4 (07:32):
But I think that all goes hand to hand when
you're dealing with something like that because either you know,
either the auto garage is going to be taken, all
that labor, it's all the risks. Well you know all
the time too, right because some some garages will actually
just charge you there was time you know they had
to go back. I know not all garages like that,
but I'm just saying that as a customer, you have

(07:52):
to kind of ask yourself the question of you know,
what do you value value your time right or your
money right, because you know, like you don't want to
pay double the work back, have a car back and
you know you're dropping it off so you know while
you're there. I do think it's best in times just
to kind of go all out do as much preventive
maintenance as you can if you can afford it, and
so just to kind of save yourself the time and

(08:13):
the money of the hassle and the hassle and yeah,
just bringing it back and wasting more money on labor
costs and you know, because they got to take everything
back apart.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
And so it's a it's a big it's a rabbit
hole when you when you get into it. It is
so one of the biggest things for me when I
was doing auto repair regularly in business, so and even
the garages that I set up to help fix or
the years after I went into doing all that, I
very much believe in firing a customer, I just do
and I don't mean that in the wrong way. But

(08:41):
if I if you come to me, you brought your
car to me for knowledge, right for what I know
and what I can do. So when I tell you
this is how I believe we should do this to
take care of your problem. And then you want to
do it the shortcut way. A lot of times I
fired the customer. I'm just like, I appreciate your business,

(09:01):
but I don't want to do it that way because
it's not gonna be right. It's gonna come back. You're
going to be mad, and I'm going to be the
only bad guy in this situation. Even though the no, no, no,
I don't care how much you document on a ticket
that I suggest this to the customer and they decide
not to do this, They're still coming back. I guarantee it.
And mister customer, this is listening to this show because,
like I said, I got a lot of people that

(09:23):
I've met over the years that you guys don't work
on your guys car. You listen to the show because
it's informative. I have a great voice, and you guys
just whatever it is you guys listen. I'll fire you,
and I don't. I don't do it in a bad way.
I do it in a in a I just don't
want to do the work because I'm going to make
an enemy out of you. I'm going to do what
you asked me to do. It's going to come back.

(09:44):
You're going to be mad. And then either A I'm
fixing it for free, right because I want you to
be happy. And you don't ever hear anybody talk good
about anybody in the grocery line. They only talk about
the bad experiences they had, you know, And then you
have the you know, I'm going to re yelp review.
You don't make me push this button right here, you.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
You got those that they they live everywhere. You have
all those type of people that you're dealing with, and
so to keep that from happening. Look, first of all,
I mean, at first, one to tell if you don't
have one or two bad reviews on your website and
you're working on cars, you're not working on enough cars.
You're not going to make everybody happy. There's people that
are going to have bad things to say even when
you tried to fix the situation. That's just reality.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
I do think that there's ways that you can approach
it to when you know, like when you suggest to
do you know, a big job or multiple things to
prevent you know, further catasity. Wisely, I think it's really
good to explain it to the customer of why you
suggest that. You know, some people just suggest parts, and
you know, I understand it as a customer review that
you might be thinking that you're going to take an advantage.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Of a time belt and do the water pump while
you're there, and you're like, why am I doing that
right exactly?

Speaker 4 (10:50):
But if you explain, you know, why you want to
go down that route, I think sometimes the customer can
kind of look from it so your point of view.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
When I was doing it right elarly and like I said,
in the garages, I structure and help them get better
at what they did. I did a tear method. Okay,
So if I if you brought your car to us
and it had a leak, and I was chasing an
oil leak, and I find your main oil leak, which
is let's say I always go to remain seal because
it just it have all the time. But I'm in
the remarks seat and then I see the back of

(11:18):
the valve covers are starting to seep and stuff like that.
Of course I would do a tier. Here is what
I directly, especially when I knew money was going to
be an issue. Like if you a lot of people,
you'd be surprised if you just listen to customers and
people who bring your card to repair shop. Make sure
the person that you're talking with is actually listening to
you and addressing your needs. It goes both ways. They'll
tell you really kind of where they are with things.

(11:40):
You know what I mean, Like you're going to a
lot of times. Know if money's not all the time,
but if money is the main motivation of what you're
working with. So I would tell everybody that worked for
me to tier it. Here's what we need to take
care of. Now we can take care of this. This
will get you up and get you going. I also
see X, Y, and Z. What I would like to
do is let's rest this and then maybe after you

(12:02):
recover in a couple of months, I'll set you for
an appointment for a couple months and you can bring
it in and we can take care of this. And
if there's a third item, fourth on, we can just
tear it back. Maybe I take care of these two
items in two months, maybe two months from there, I
take care of these items. So we were working the
way to making sure everything. Now, can something break between
that time, one hundred percent, Guys, that can break, okay,
but at least it's not if you don't have the

(12:24):
money to take care of all those problems. We know
the main problem, We've addressed it, and we know what
we need to work on in the future to keep
your car going down the road safely. And as long
as you are open to that idea and you can
work on that program, it's great because I know that
when you go out the door, I feel like I've
given you the best education of how to fix your
problems and keep money. If money is the issue, keep

(12:44):
money structured, right, Okay. Now, there's some people that just
don't want to hear it, don't want to do it.
One of the biggest things always drove me nuts. I
haven't got to water yet. We're still dealing with it
with different leaks and stuff. But here's the thing. So
one of the things that would blow my mind is
when Sunday came in for a ceb Axle, I got
a broken ceb Axle. I used to always say, let's

(13:05):
just do them both, and they're like, well, the only
ones broke. I'm like, okay, but they are, but the
other that one break right, but the other one has
the same amount of time unless you you know, hit something
and caused it. If it just failed, good chances is
the other one the boots starting to wear out. Everything
else like that, we might as well do it. Here's
what it is, and I'll tell you the reason. Why
did Everybody goes, oh, you're just trying to get over
on me. No, I'm not. And if I fix your

(13:25):
cb axle and I know I've repaired what I found
was broken on your car, and I put it together right,
and then you go down the road and two days
from now it starts to make a clicking noise. Where
are you at your back? And my shit is my job?
I tell me tell you what happens every time. Every
time you don't tell me. If you guys try to
telling me didn't happen to you, You've never done this.

(13:47):
You are lying. I brought my car into you and
you guys said it with ceb axle and fix it.
But I'm still hearing a clicking noise right, because the
other one is clicking. This one was broken, this one's
starting to click. Well, you must have fixed the wrong one.
You must have the axle on the wrong side. You
should have fixed this one because this is the one
that's making a noise. If you think that doesn't happen,
happens all the time. You either own garages or garages.

(14:07):
You guys know happens all the time. No different hub bearings.
So if I did a hub assembly on one side
of a car, I usually want to do both. Why
they have equal amount of mileages on. It's like telling
me to put one tire on a car. Just throw
one tire. If you work in auto garage and you're
throwing one tire on a car, just retire, retire, stop,
go do something else, sell real estate. I don't care
what it is, but don't put one tire on a car.

(14:30):
It is one of the worst things you can do
to somebody's car. Why there's circumbers of the tire are different.
And if it's a front wheel drive, you're wearing out
that transmission quick rather you think you are not. It
means one tire's big, one tire smaller. Because of this
morn and now the clutches have to spind and keep
on keeping up with each other, and you're just tearing
that transmission up. That's the reason why when you put a
spare tire on the front of a front wheel drive car,
the transmission blows out if you drive around with it

(14:52):
for too long. If you didn't know it, now you do.
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Speaker 1 (18:07):
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Now back to your host, Dave Palach, Hey, ye.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
As, welcome back. So before we went to commercial break,
we were talking about leaks and car repairs and stuff
like that. Like I said, the biggest reason why leaks
always seem to come up a conversation and like I
said it did in forums this week. Is because generally
the auto garage is trying to take care of the customer.
The customer do it first of all, before you all

(18:40):
send me, because I already know how this works, before
you send me a bunch of hate mail of oh,
I know this auto garage and trying to rake me
over the colls and sort of granted, I get it.
I know they're out there. Let's pretend like they're not.
But in general, okay, the chances that a car only
has one oil week on it somewhere, especially the car's
got a little bit of age on it, it's probably
going to be splended done. I mean, I can tell

(19:00):
you right now. Like I just had a conversational buddy
called me. He's like, Hey, I'm gonting ready buy a car.
He's like, can I bring it over and let you
just kind of look everything over on it before I
decide to buy it. And you know, because we got
the lift in the megaage and stuff like that, I'm like, yeah,
I said, I you know, I got the trans on
the Mega on the lift. I was like, but one
way to that we can look it over it, you know,
we can go through everything, take a look at He's like, oh,

(19:20):
I appreciate it, so but I told him. I was like,
just so you understand, I can look any car over,
for the most part and find things wrong with it.
I mean, if I look card up, I'm gonna find
things that go well if it was me and I
was gonna buy a car and probably would like disrepair rather,
it's breaks, the rotors are warped, tires are starting to
get a little warm. I see a tear in an
axle boot. I see a little seepish from the rear end,

(19:41):
a little seepish from valve cover. I mean, I look,
I can find things. I'm not saying it's all detrimental,
but if you take the time to bring your car
to repair shop and go I think I had these issues,
and then they take the time to look at everything
for you and go, here's what I found, and you go, oh, thanks.
I don't do anyth of that.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Right, They're kind of point kind of giving me the
Grand Toll rule of what everything is wrong with that card.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
To departmentalize everything right apart. But I do feel like
sometimes that can hurt you as well, especially if you
can't give a customer an estimate and ahead of time,
because when the customer can well, I know, but some
you know, some people can't.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
You know, Okay, explain to me, what do you mean
like they can't? They can everybody's yeah, I know, but
like you said, like you can't. You can't always estimate
what everything is going to go wrong.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
You.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
The customers sometimes feels betrayed when you know, if something
else breaks or something cost you expected.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
You learn into your short time. That's what I'm saying.
So I go to pull this off and this breaks,
and I was you know, it'd rather be like say,
it's a nipple to where the hose goes through whatever,
and it was brittle. I didn't I didn't want him
to break because like you know, it does. And now
it's like, okay, does the customer pay for that? Do
I pay for that? You know, Here's the thing. I

(20:50):
tend to foresee a lot of that when I was
in the business. I'm like, if I'm getting ready to
pull the hoses up, just so you know, there's a
good chance if the hose is starting to get kind
of worn out, so does everything that attaches too. I'm
going to try to take it apart to the best
my ability not breaking anything. But here's what I would
probably do. Ie, replace this, replace that. That's biggest reason
I always use as an example. That's why we do

(21:11):
the whole timing belt, water pump, all the pooleys, the tensioners.
You could probably not get away with not doing all those.

Speaker 8 (21:17):
I know.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I I've watched people do it, and I shake mind.
I'm just going to do the time belt. I'm not
putting tensions or anything in it. And I'm like, why
why you're right there? Why why are you not going
to do everything? First of all, Now, before guys, you
didn't buy it in a kit. Used to buy a
lot of stuff Ala car. Now it comes as a
whole kid, a complete kid, has everything in it. But
that wasn't the case back in the day. Okay, you

(21:37):
bought most of the stuff ala car for a lot of cars.
There were some cars had kids, but most of that
stuff you bought it all separately. I wouldn't sell it
that way. If you brought your car to me and
you asked me to do a timing belt, and I
know all this stuff I have to move to get
to it. Guess what if it's a gasket, anything like that,
and it's not part it was getting it or I
wasn't touching it. I wasn't doing it because I'm going

(21:58):
to do it eventually anyway, except I was going to
do it on my dime when you come back and complain.
And that's why I said for free.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
It's great to sometimes give a low estimate and a
high estimate so the customer can make their own decision on.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Something like that. You shouldn't and there's one estimate this
is to do it right or I'm not you know
what I mean, I understand that what I'm talking about
that low of you know, if if everything goes right,
and high if everything goes wrong, because therefore when the
what if you're talking about the what is and therefore.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
That you know the customer can because sometimes that's that's
my way of always say why I used to go
like worst case scenario right, But I'm just saying some
garages might not do that, and I'm saying that's probably
the best course to do it, because you know, a
customer can probably have foord you know, maybe a three
hundred dollars part four hundred dollars, but you know they're
not expecting maybe one thy twelve hundred dollars worth of.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Here's the thing, like you know, we should, you should
because nowadays you try to get out of a repair
shop for under one thousand dollars. Nowadays, I don't care
really what you have done. For the most part, parts
are expensive. Labor time has gone up, the average national
average right this second is what it's two hundred and
ten dollars now is what they're trying to move labor
time an hour to hour when most there's a lot
of people I know they're still charging one in the

(23:05):
one fifties at the National Avenue charging two fifties, right,
I mean like there's it should have went up a
long time ago and it didn'. Everybody's like, well, I
don't understand doing the same work. The cost of living
has gone up on everything, the cost of parts, the time,
everything that goes into that. Like, well that guy's still
cost to say, no, they don't. They gave a pay raise.
They gave a pay raise ten years ago and they

(23:26):
were still charging you one fifty or one forty nine
or whatever it is. And but ten years ago they
are paying ACKX and now they're paying them here. But
you didn't feel it as as a you know, as
the customer. I don't like it, Guys, I'm not going
to tell you that. I you know, I'm I'm bathing
it and going I think it's great. We got to
pay all this extra money. No, that's not the case.
I mean, it sucks, but I get it. I get it.

(23:47):
After being in the business for so long and having
all the responsibilities of running you successful repair shops, I
got it. If you have a very great repair shop
that you do work with, understand you appreciate ate that garage,
probably because of the fact of the people they employ
and they have looked to try to get the best guys.
You wouldn't be going back there. If you constantly go

(24:08):
back and then you've had all these kinds of problems,
you probably won't go back there again, right unless now
there's a cave after that there is. People make mistakes.
Things don't always go It's how they handle it when
there is a mistake, though, and that's usually what keeps
people coming back. If you got working on your car
and something went bad and you didn't like it and
they told you to kiss off, you won't go back there.
But if you go you know what, I had a problem.

(24:28):
You guys do the work and they go, not a problem,
drop it off for me. Let me go ahead and
get a look at it. We'll get it squared away
for you. And then you come pick it up and
you don't have a bill, and they honored all the
work they did. You're gonna go back to them, and
you should because like I said, nobody's perfect. Nobody's perfect.
It should be practicing automotives just like it's practicing medicine.
We should be practicing automotives because doctors aren't perfect, and

(24:50):
you got to pay them to do it twice. But
you go to a car repair shop and they miss
up one little thing in your car and they missed something,
they didn't get it right, and you want all your
money back. I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
That's why you know, giving a good price range because
like you know how we talk to some people about
you know, you know how many miles you got on
the car. Is it really worth you putting all that
money send them to the car or is it just
better for you to go find something newer for yourself.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Well, the biggest problem is when you get a used car.
You guys, heard me say this, a thousand times you
can listen to the show. It's almost like repetitiveness because
it always circles back around. You buy something used to
expect to put money into it to make it roadworthy.
Nobody's selling you a car that they've done every single
maintenance item too to make it ready for you to
now own. They're getting rid of it because they don't
want to put any more money into it. Even it

(25:32):
could be little things, or maybe they just decided they
want a new car. But I guarantee they're not bringing
that car up to spec to sell it to you. Rather,
it's tires, breaks, rotors, ac doesn't work right, needs belts,
needs hoses, needs police, you name it in certain needs
part here, just go ahead and stable that right onto
your forehead with a piece of paper. I'll use the
staple er. And just know that nobody's handing you a

(25:53):
car that's had every single thing done to it, and
if they are, you're paying for it. There's gonna be
money you're still gonna find. You're gonna it is. I
tell everybody tack twelve hundred to twenty five hundred dollars
onto any car you buy. I don't care what price
you pay. For it, and it's gonna need that much
about of work, Why you tell me where you can
go in and get a break job nowadays? A true
break job. I don't need you keyboard warriors, a true

(26:16):
break job that's done right, pads, you've done. Roadors because
and no, not your car needs rotors nowadays kind of
they're starting to get a point where they warped because
they're made out of junk, the Chinese rotors, and they're horrible.
If you're a heart breaker, right right, absolutely, so you
might as well just quit and put on. But I
remember we used to turn roaders. I come from the
turning turning roadors like error. We turn them because they're

(26:37):
made so much better. You could turn them and you
get life out of them. They're made like junk. Now literally,
I've I know people have put brand new roaders on
a car and when one week they had one hard
breaking situation where someone started out front, they slam on
the brakes and now the car has a whoop when
they hit when they hit it, and they're like, man,
I just put these on. They're done because they're junk

(26:57):
out of the box.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
And I will say that you know that's where it comes.
You know, research really comes in handy and knowing what
you know is that because you know, some people do
lean towards cheaper parts and that can cost you in
the long run if you just would about you know,
the high premium value there is.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
But even the high premium value nowadays, some of it's
even jumped too. Now. If you go ahead and you
buy quality nap up parts, one of our sponsors, hey,
you you know, you probably get some pretty good stuff,
but you got to remember they also buy stuff from
other people as well. It's not everything's always in their
product now. They do, I think, a better job than
a lot of different people do feeling things out. I

(27:33):
know people that will only put dealer items on the cart.
Doesn't matter what it is you get breaks So like
I want the pads come from the dealer. I want
the rotors come from dealer. Okay, you're gonna pay for it,
but I'm gonna do what you ask me to do.
There is great aftermarket equipment out there. You just have
to know what it is you're getting. If you constantly
go I want the cheapest rotors and the cheapest break pads,
well that's exactly what you're gonna get in probably six

(27:53):
months from now, you're gonna go. Man, I probably should
have spent that other thirty dollars here or that extra
thirty dollars there. Yeah, you should have. But you I
get it. Money's tight. Look, I it was a time
in my life where I can literally remember taking the
pads off, scuffing them up and scuffing everything and throwing
them back on, getting more like about it because I
just didn't have the money. It can be done, So
I get it money's tight. But if you are taking

(28:16):
the time to bring me your car to have it fixed,
and you want it fixed right, listen to what people
are telling you. You're bringing it to a professional, and
I'm once again, don't keep worrying me. There's people out
there that don't have your best answer there just trying
to get a dime out of you. But most likely,
if you've done what I've told you to do, and
you've introduced yourself to aut of Garage before you needed them,
and you decide you liked them and what they had
to say, you've already have an established out of garage

(28:37):
you trust, and you shouldn't be worrying about this. You
should take your car to it and know they tell
you it needs something that needs it, and then you
decide if you want to do it. Well, and I
will say it's not cheap, and.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
I will say information is so ready to be available
that you can use what they tell you and you
can do your own research to navigate.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
A thousand times a thousand times over. Just do a
little bit of research. Educate yourself just a little bit
before you make purchases when it comes to car repair,
just kind of know what it is you're getting into
which you're replacing. But here's the thing for you guys
that punch things into Google, right, and I Google too.
Don't get wrong, I'm not chastising you, but it's it's
not accurate. You punch in what should an average break
repair cost? And it pops up as like, well average

(29:13):
breakpairs one hundred and fifty dollars to two hundred fifty
dollars where where I mean, you barely covered the labor.
You haven't bunny parts yet. But that's Google will start
telling you stupid stuff like that. And then you go
into the repair shop, Well Google says, well guess what
Google says? Whatever's been programmed it with somebody typed into
it over and over again, and then it repeats it
and spits it back out.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
It doesn't mean it's right, yeah, but I will Hey,
so so I just I just typed it in right
to see count when it spit out and and it.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Is what I was that close? No, I mean kind
of yes, yes and no.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
But I feel like sometimes what the price tag comes
with it is that they're not they're including non labor
like you do it yourself, people and professional.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
I do agree that they don't yet yet because it
does say two fifty eight hundreds. I know it does
hold that thought. Guys, we'll have some a little bit
more on this. We'll jump right back in. But I
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Speaker 2 (33:47):
All right, guys, back to the debate. So we're talking
about car repair and leaks, leaks and all the different
things that goes into it, and it spiled into its own,
you know, entity of conversation. Here's the deal with my
You've been off awful quiet there, buddy, by the way,
So the reason why I've been here.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
So I'm the worst person to take my car to
a repair shop because, like Nate said, do research.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I do research, and.

Speaker 8 (34:14):
Then I go, yeah, I'm just gonna drop it off
at a repair shop, and then add it.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
He goes, I'm drop it off, Dad's out and then
question everything he does.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Okay, I do. I do do that sometimes. But I
do also take it to a bunch of my repair
shops and I'll go just do it. I don't even
care about the price. I just don't want to work
on it. Because you guys ask in the beginning, it's time.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
My dad just did my break job and stuff. Can
you look it over and make sure he did it
right for me?

Speaker 8 (34:36):
We're still talking about Yes, I'm still talking about us.
You guys asked in the beginning, do you value time
or do you value money?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
I value both. I value both because I only want
to do.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
It one time. You're right, my time is a little
bit more important to me because I can I can
make that money back with my time probably about half
of the time that it would have tooken me to
taken took me, taken me to be a to actually
do this.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
So you know, I mean, I just drop it off
and then like I do, I do do my research,
but I add about two hundred and three hundred dollars
to what the price says, because I know the hardware.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Cameron will tell you if you bring me your break
job to do, and you're like, hey, I need a
break job, you think you can help me out, knock
it out. I can't. I don't have time to take
to their pair shop, which is usually how that ends
up happening for Cameron. That's how I end up doing
the work on it, or Cameron suckers me and goes,
I'll come help you, and I'm like, okay, why don't
you come over, And then before I know it, Cameron's
over in a corner doing something and I'm doing the

(35:33):
whole job and.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
He's like, I'm usually doing something for a year. So that's.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
But he will tell you that if you need, if
you bring everything to me to do a break job,
you better bring me everything. I want the hardware, a kid,
I want the roaders, I want the kids. I might
even ask you for new pins and new get all
the little rubbers. I want everything, because I just I
was much you guys, I do everything on I was

(36:02):
what I was talking to do, and every He's like, well,
you probably could have got life out of the roaders.
I'm like, but the cost of rotors nowadays I've got
They're not super expensive, pending on what you drive, But
even on my on my big truck, they weren't super
expensive on it. I'm throwing rotors on path stuff on
it and I'm not gonna worry about it. For look,
usually a couple of years I've met a couple of years.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
I know, I know my price for Dave's repair shot.
It's called two cans of break cleaner, and he'll do
it for you.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
That's the rule in our house. If you if you
get anything done in the Mega garage or you want
work done in the megroate, you want to use my
garage or anything, there is a toll. I have a
little troll that lies underneath the bridge that collects from you.
And you got to bring two cans of break clean
And it can't be the two cans of break clean
that you plan on using on your car. If you
need to use it, you got to bring your two

(36:47):
and you got to bring me to that go inside
the cabinet for next time. It's a small price to pay.
I think it's pretty good. Also, if you come out
and you want to wash your car out at the megarage,
and you want to use the pressure washer and all
the great stuff and the steamers and everything we have.
You got to bring some type of cleaners with you
that you leave behind it now mine when you get done.
I think that's a small toll to pay. I mean
it's very small worked. I mean, I mean there's a

(37:10):
bunch of people bring me that I would never use
in my car.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
I will take my car to one of our shops
and say, hey, he did the brakes.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
You know that was my car the other day work.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
Can you do a double check everything we're supposed to
find out about that?

Speaker 2 (37:26):
No, they call me. It's happened twice and they called
me both times. They're like, you know what, you know
what Cameron said, he wants his double check your work?
Yeah at all? Thing like No, No, because one of
one was the breaks. Another one was when I did
I think that when I did the balcom basket and
stuff like that. I did all that.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Even even so though both those only go on one way,
you can mess it up.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
We're talking earlier. Hey I got I got, I got
a misfire. Can you just put one plug in it
no serve, No sir, I can't, and no I won't.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
When you guys were talking about that, I did to
my search. I found out the partner company that makes
the dealership part and I did buy all my Coreo
packs and I put in all my Coreo PACs myself.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
But because I told you we were only doing it
one way, we do it one way.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
And I was even smart enough where if you remember correctly,
the harness piece break correct and they don't. They do
not sell that little connector piece. They all buy just
don't know where to get it from, but they do.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I went to most people don't age person has no
idea where.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
I went to the junkyard and I dissembled all the
connector pieces and took the and I repinned it. That's
probably as much as I'm.

Speaker 9 (38:39):
Gonna gets everything else there here you go.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Can you put this on for me? Because that's what happened.
It was when we did valve cover gasket. Well, I
think we did what water pump on a bunch of
all the different stuff.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
I had my good friend Mark do the timing chain
for me and water pump at the same time. Because
I was told to do it at the same time.
So I bought all the parts, but all the stuff
that you.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Made me do. First he came. He came with everything
in a bag and he's like, everything in this bag?
Can you put it on the car police? Can you
do it? Or it's just gonna say no no right
with that, you remember all you remember because what happened
was is we bought him all the parts for a
gift for someone was his birthday or so, I'm like
it was something. We bought it all. We bought everything
because he's like, I just kind of want to go
and refresh my car and put all this stuff on.

(39:26):
I was like, talk about radio because I'm talking about
the radio. Yeah no, no, I haven't got that far yet.
Camera's bad of that too, So smally I.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
Was going to do that for me. I'm going to
have him do it.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
No, what ended up happening was he we got him
all these parts because he's like, I want to go
through my car and sat refresh everything. So we bought
him every single At least I was good enough to
know that, and then they just sat in the car
forever and finally I was like, dude, are you ever
going to put you wanted all the stuff we bought
it for you, Are you ever gonna put on yama?
Get around it? Don't get around. Finally I got tired
of seeing I was like, just just bring the car

(39:55):
and bring all the parts. And he just had me
a bag with all the stuff. By the way, that
Nathaniel and I bought for him is gift and it
was all still in the bag, like almost a year later.
And if that's finally finally went on the car, now
jump forward. Cameron's like, you know, I want to put
a nice stereo system in this car and stuff. So
Nathaniel and I get together for another gift idea and
we partner up. He has what he has an AMP, speakers, tweakers,

(40:17):
tweet there's no no, no tweakers, no tweeting tweakers. He's
got tweakers, tweeters. He's got it all. Yet it still
sits in boxes. It has not been installed the car.
I told him in the car.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I was like, by time you put it in, we
might as well just put it in a different car.
Might just go ahead.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
And a lot of times that can't happen because the
part is associated with that type of car.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Unless you.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
And I have thought about buying another two thousand and
six Acroatella. He and I can't.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
He likes his achrate. There's a great car. Look, Cameron,
go out buy a new car. Want don't you like
Nathaniel did he easily?

Speaker 5 (40:56):
Could?

Speaker 2 (40:56):
You can afford to pay for it. It's just some
people like you drive everybody else's car to me. To me,
it's almost not worthyre But it's like Dave, you know,
I thought you had botch yourself a new truck, but
now I'm like, why, it's paid for it, It runs great,
it's got little minds want to look. The difference is
that yours is pretty pristine, it being a fifteen twenty sixteen,

(41:17):
and so Cameron's and six that has seen better day.
It didn't.

Speaker 9 (41:21):
When we bought it for me, it was you. We
got it for me, and then camera drove it. I
did not break the dashboard. That was not the dashboard.
It was your shop that was not in our sponsored list.
And I did not have a choice to take it
to there. It was my insurance company that sent it
there and they broke the down.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
But we're not yet, We're not. I still say you
should put you foot down right.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
And we're not Look, we're not blaming you for it
the damages that have occurred.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
We're blaming you for not taking care of the damages that, like,
like the small debt in the door and then got
not it wasn't it was you literally right, Okay, what's
y'all know this easy question? If Dad gets a what
on his vehicle? What has to happen to that vehicle?
Was Okay, if it gets a dent, it has to

(42:07):
be what junk yard. I'm like, just send to the
junk yard. It's God, Dad, don't want to driving no more?
Wait a minute, still, driver, it's just a day yep, ye, nope,
it's it. Don't want to no more? New door, Yeah not,
I only want a door. I just want a truck.
It's the joke in our house and I all the time,
I'm like, if it gets a dent, it gets anything.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
I want photos. He was sending me photos of new
doors too. He's like, just go get this door. Three
doors door, And I'm like coloring it. I'm a procrastinator
and procrastinator. Okay, so I found look it, I found
it pristine. He loves I know, he loves his accurate.
I found a pristine accurate and what I mean pristine.

(42:47):
That car was immaculate. All we would have to do
is pull the.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Motor out and moved over to that car and drop
and I was like, let's do it. We'll do it
in the weekend, I said. But the guy wanted nothing
for the body because he he bought it, I guess
to get the motor out of it and the trans
mission out of it. We got a good motor.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
And message him though, and he never replied back. But
I probably messaged him way too.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Way too late.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
It was way too months after around him. And it
was a good price. It was fifteen hundred no, no,
like five hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Started a fifteen hundred and he dropped it down like
five hundred because he just wanted out of his driveway.
And when I mean pristine, guys, the paint was immaculate,
the interior was immaculate. That guy bought a really nice
car just for whatever he wanted the motor and transmission
out for a project. He was doing something completely different.
It was a nice car.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
Mo Honda accord to I do miss Mo Honda accord
that no, no, so.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Okay, So both cars so give you guys reference. His
han Acord was a little old man driven one owner car.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
The guy was the only on your car is now
just thinking about all your cars.

Speaker 5 (43:46):
A van ran a stop sign in the middle of
the rain.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
It did, and then it happened. That's true.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
It was nothing that I could do to see it.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
But it was was pristine when he got it. It
was owned by the guy wasn't old old, but he
was getting up there in age, and he was the
original owner. And it came with a stack, this thick
of receipts. Everything was ever done to the car. And
then Cameron owned it.

Speaker 8 (44:07):
And I would say, look what happened, Nor what happened?
And my car went on a tunnel, destroyed the car? Okay,
Camera's way telling stories. What happened was is we were leaving.
That's when our studio and we were doing the radio
show out of downtown Norfolk. And camera go, do you
think you think I ought to go that way? I said,

(44:28):
not unless you want that car to float. I would
not go that way, okay, Dad? And he did get
and he goes to.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Get gas and he has to go right up to
where I tell him not to go. Now he could
have turned around, went back the opposite. But he looks,
He goes, I think I can make it. It did
not look he did not make it. That's Cameron's way
of telling stories, guys, Just so you know, he alters
the best parts. What he can't alter is this commercial break.
I got to take another one. We got one more
second before he holds tight. I'll be right back.

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back to Let's Talk Cars Radio. You're automotive specialist. Now
back to your host, Dave Palach.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Hey, guys, welcome back commercial break. We're talking about all
Cameron's misdeeds with cars, and it's a long list, but
I will say those two long long it's a long list.
It is a lot of only three. We didn't even
get into the whole z car. I mean, like, and
I'll look, it would take a whole episode to talk
about it. We'll take a whole episode to talk about

(48:53):
is Zoey the car he had to have that different
You're doing preventive maintenance, but it was maintenance just to
keep the things on the road. Yeah, no, no, you
were doing correctively it guys, you don't know. This is
broke and it's the only way that Carl keep on
going down the road. That's what he was doing the
whole time. Trust me. I had a four thousand dollars

(49:15):
transmission investment in that car, uh, two months after he
bought it, because tis like every month. But yeah, yeah,
this car keeps on eating up tires. I cannot figure
out why I can't consider it. I think it's a
Casper and canber on it is making the tires eat up. No,
it's a loose not behind the wheel. And why we're
on that subject, I will trans that into the next conversation,

(49:37):
which is, you guys see driving your first car. Right,
they're talking about changing a lot of the laws and
stuff like that. I'm completely for it, just so you'll
never heard about. That's actual raising two fucking kids now
three that are driving. And let me just tell you
it's a nightmare.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
We had tour cars.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Now now it's going to be there. They want to
move a lot of stuff in states. Hold on, in states,
they want to run it mandatory that you have to
do like a long session of like uh, not just
regular drivers that, but a longer session of drivers are
like you have to take it.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
I'm all for that, like aggressive, aggressive correction, defensive driving,
I mean, you know, you name it. I do one
agree with that, just because there's maniacs on the road.
There is, and there's some people that just don't know
how to handle that.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Okay, so this is gonna make me very unpopular. It's
just gonna make me very very unpopular.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
I know.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I believe at some point in time seniors should have
to go back through it too. I agree to I
know that that is gonna it's gonna ruffle feathers, but.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
Canceled.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
But Fred, don't take it the wrong way, buddy. But
here's a good example.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
I think Fred could drive though he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I just think at a certain age there should be
some type of refresher course. I think before you drive
as as a teenager, it needs to be a long course,
and there needs to be something other than just going
and taking the tests and I pass it and that
grade license you get on the road. I just don't
think you guys are ready. I even said.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
I even said it, and it's not really car related,
but I even said, like when people get cell phones,
there should be a.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
A or just new technology comes down, there just should
be there should be a test to be able to
use your cell phone.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
You can't have it right well, because it's the same thing,
right like car, everything just progressive and time and everything
gets newer. So look, if you got to read the
manual to know how to work your TV and stuff,
you should have to go through another or for like
the new TV, you should have to do something use
a brand new car, because it's just there's different buttons,
everything works a little differently. It's not like it's not

(51:39):
all analog anymore. There's a lot that goes to it.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
Maybe we need to bring it's what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Just slapping a sticker on the back of the car
and going student driver isn't cutting it anymore.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
Your parents.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
I didn't do that to you guys, but that was
my age. That was like they think that was funny.
They put a little sticker on the back of car,
let people know behind you that you're you're a new
driver driver. I'm like, it was so lame, but we.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
Should put a baby on board sticker.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Look, I'm not saying you should have to go to
the d V, but I think if you're buying, like
said car from a dealership instead, there should be like
a nice little video like it's drivers and video, like
you know, all the new things.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
That's a new job career. What do you do for
Why work in the dealership and you know my job
is to teach people how to use their car pro those.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
Like safety videos that you do when you go as
you when you go when you go go karting. He
wants one of those videos, right, Like this is the cast.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Won't help most people. I'm just gonna let you know.
You can't get people to use turn signals. There's nuts.
I use turn signals, probably more than I should, but
at least you always know where I'm going, Like I'll
still first, but I know where I'm going.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
As much as technology has advanced into cars, I still
feel like we can make turns to signals automatic. They can't.
You and I have had this feel like it could
be automatic.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Was well, if you turn your eye and you look
at that direction, the turning about a conversation the person
and it looked like I'm a little special.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
Or something turning the wheel and the car realizes you're
going across a white line.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Okay, why does signal? I don't because why means if
I just moved out of the way to avoid.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Something, nothings that I'm going left, but really or it's
like it doesn't know if you're going left or right,
So then just looks like your flashers on the all
the time.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
At least your cautionary right. Why we just get used
to using the turn signals. I think that's just a
better idea. I wish it was voice activated. That's one
thing voice activated. I don't know. Maybe I like technology
that does a back of a foot like it comes
on like you know, and just it comes on.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
I turn right now, watch out, everybody, I mean.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Tom Tom. Remember the Tom Tom commercial Tom Tom where
it was Dave Dave he was. I used to love
it because if you never saw the old Tom Tom commercials,
and that was for your little you know, personal direction thing.
I think they still make when everybody and everybody had
their own little pop on GPS as a Tom Tom.
They had the guy named Dave sit in the seat
like Dave Dave, Where do I go? Dave, Dave? Do

(54:17):
I take a left here? Dave Dave? And it was
like it's not Dave Dave, It's Tom Tom. And that's
how the commercial ended. That was a funny commercial I got.
I still remember it. How many years that had to
be over ten years ago. Commercials there is good commercial ideas.
They hit hard if they're done right. There's one that
I remember has nothing with the cars, just so you
guys know, if you guys remember, uh, I want to

(54:38):
say it came out during Christmas time and the guy
kept trying to dial I think home for Christmas or
something and the other person on the other and the
phone was like in some countries like and they like
you realize he was calling some foreign countrary time, and
it was like it was some weird comer. I don't
know who it was for. It might have been for like,
uh maybe, like I think the time it was popular.

(54:59):
I was probably in the Illinois area maybe at that time,
So maybe it was something that was like a commercial
like the ditch your Yellow Book. No, I don't know
what it was, but I talk Only one person ever
remembers that commercial. I've talked to and I don't remember
who was for, And they didn't remember who it was for, too,
but they remember the commercial. It's almost like I think
it came on right along the time when you know
they still play the one where they light up the
palm tree. You know at Christmas time they're like in

(55:21):
the little shack and there's the one little palm tree
and it lights up with Christmas lights and it's like,
you know, have a merry Christmas. Whatever played right around
at the same time that commercial was playing all the time.
So I'm trust you and I know why you're looking
at it. I don't have two heads. If you all
can tell me why that commerial, Like, I know it
has nothing with Carson. You know what I did see
totally forgot. Somebody sent to me, uh I know random so.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
Squirrels like christ and Peter Grittman when you have eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Somebody sent me and it was cool because I totally
forgot about it. Do you Does anybody remember when Michael
Jordan did the commercial for the Iraq Kamaro and he's
like I think he says like I rock the backboard,
you know what I mean, And he's talking about you know,
he kept on using the term like irock, but it
had to do with any Then it flashed. I think
the car was red. It was red Z twenty eight

(56:12):
irock chimerical about the same guys V so you can
fit in it. No, no, no, that's not No, that's not
Michael Jordan's No you didn't know. Oh shit. I think
ship Check cut a bunch of his cars that Michael Jordan.
Don't think you ever caught one of I think he
did about Michael Jackson, but they got him like you know,
slam dunkin balls and stuff. And then it goes to

(56:33):
the Chevy commercial. I totally forgot that commercial existed, uh
until somebody reminded me. So thanks remind me that commercial
because I I mean it comes out of the eighties
or I mean that's probably late eighties as well my time.
But no, I mean people send me old commercials all
the time, like I forever, and it probably skips them.
But you guys, they like a rock commercial. I still

(56:55):
think it was one of the most cleverest commercials ever
for Chevy. Yeah, they sung the song like rock it was.
I think it's actually a country song that they modified
to be. Somebody tell me, did you.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
Remember I got what tornadoes under the hood commercial they
bought that guy?

Speaker 2 (57:14):
I think if I thought I read the Chevy bottom
of truck after so many but the lack of rock
Chevy commercial, the sing along I don't know, the American flag,
all that kind of stuff, it just made you want
to like.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
It got your right yeah right here, yeah right there? Yeah,
and make sure another commercial not car related. The one
that I still remember that actually like kept my heart,
you know, is the horse one where the dog runs away.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Some of the best commercials ever. I remember a lot
of car commercials being a car guy, but that one
I remember that was that is a great one. They
did a couple different parodies.

Speaker 5 (57:51):
And car commercials and videos like, I don't know, we
ran car commercials, you remember, No, I mean I got
at cool.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
I mean I was when you said bow Wiser. I
was thinking of the new one they made with the
comedian and post Malone, and.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
He's like, he's right, the cooler.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
The car commercial I still remember is the Rats where they.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Were talking about ham Somebody literally was just having that
conversation with me the other day.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
That car sold, Okay, I mean.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
It did for a short period of time. I think
the maybe the neon rings and the speakers what sold it.
I don't know. I think it was the mice. You
think it was. You think I think their hamsters. Let
me know, I believe they are hamsters. You're right. Somebody
else sent me was playing on the internet. That sent
me was the Eclipse commercial where the girls doing the
popping and locking, and that commercial seems as weird as

(58:48):
it did the day it came out. It is, I
she First of all, if you ever ride with me
in a vehicle, if you start popping and locking and
bouncing around while I'm trying to drive, I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
To still it's not move.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
You just tract me.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
I'm just that guy.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
But the whole commer you're looking it up, aren't you?
Your whole commercial. She's like like break dancing and all
kinds of stuff in the passengers or seat of the
car while the car is going on. It was a
misspecially Eclipse commercial and somebody sent me that one. I
totally forgot about that one until I saw it, and
I was like, yeah, nobody's doing that in my car
when I'm driving. I'm gonna, like, I don't know, go
around a corner and accidentally hit the door and just

(59:24):
way brought up the Lincoln commercial kind of a can
anybody tell me? Does she ever seatbelt on that commercial?
I need to go back and look because there was
a whole lot of dancing going on and it's show
kind of unsafe without a seatbelt on. I don't know.
You guys, tell me find the commercial, Tell me what
you wearing a seatbelt and that note. I gotta go
ahead and get out here. Guys.

Speaker 5 (59:39):
It is Saturday.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Enjoy your weekend. Sunday is right around the corner. Make
sure you unplugged, spend some time with your kids, playboard
game with them, fire up the grill, do whatever it takes,
but sometimes spend time with your kids. They'll love you
for it. You guys got anything before we get out
of here. Enjoy your weekend here and we'll talk to
you soon.

Speaker 8 (01:00:00):
Sh