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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:50):
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p hanging out with camera, Chaos and EBB. It is
a great day for a radio show. Hopefully your guys,
bather is holding not where you guys are at? And
you guys came out to a car show this weekending
with today or tomorrow? But if not, hey, you got
you hang out with us, got some things to talk about.
You ready for it? Ready? I'm ready? How about you?
Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm ready as I can be.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
He's like, I'm over here, messing with his computer. We'd
give me two seconds. I'll be ready. He's not a
bay attention to me.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
So I kind of had an interesting one. I told
you guys. I go along with a lot of different forums,
talk about a lot of different things. All depends on
exactly what's going on in the week, what people decide
they want to talk about. But I'll listen and then
i'll tag in and and give my opinion. So one
of the things I saw this week, and it's based
on an article. I think that somebody referenced the article

(01:38):
to me. It was similar, but it was you know,
we talked about this. So if you had analyst money,
I guess, right, right, So what if you casino and
you won one of the big jackpots? Okay, be nice, right,
be great? Right, Let's just say that you won I
don't know, let's say three million dollars at the casino.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Okay, so really you want like one point three after
taxes like it, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Probably gonna be like one point seven. But yeah, alright.
So and you decide you were use that money to
buy a car. Okay, what car would you buy?

Speaker 4 (02:15):
I buy a pluck throwut cars more just muscle cars.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
So you wouldn't drive just one.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
No, I don't think I'd be that guy that gets
like one of the hyper supercars just because I had
one point three to kind of throw away.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Okay, so what would you then cycle that into?

Speaker 4 (02:30):
What do you mean, like what kind of cars i'd
buy or cycle like?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
What do you mean you said you'd buy more than
one car?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yes, I mean I buy a bunch of muscle cars,
probably some imports, you know, more like thirty forty thousand
dollars cars, maybe sixty thousand oard cars, and then you know,
either build them up or restored and not have pibly
like would you buy probably, well, if I have one
point three after taxes, I'd probably spend six seven hundred
thousand on cars and then keep the rest for property
tax taxes and all that and upgrade that need be.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay, seven cars? What are the cars?

Speaker 4 (03:05):
So probably a Camaro SS I'd probably get like you
mm hmm, well, probably a seventy one something like that. Yeah,
it's like seventy one or seven. Okay, you know, the
like ninety six version, I believe you like ninety six
ninety seven. Uh, and then maybe like you know, and
Paula just a bunch of like just you know, the

(03:26):
skyline maybe because you just because you can like a
R thirty two and then you know a couple other ones.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
What about you? I, I mean, I would go down
the rabbit hole. I wanted to, like, you know, Okay,
So I got I got to talking about this, and
I was like, huh, I think I've always wanted a Coontagh. Okay,
So if it was just money just to spend, right, right,

(03:58):
So you just get one car as much as I
like your idea, because I kind of felt as I
was talking about this when we having this conversation, as
much as I I almost my idea is almost the
same as your idea, right, Okay, So I just.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Think about it when you need a kuntas right, the
property tax on it alone, you just spent one point
three and then you're you know, I don't know what
the provay tax on that bad way is, but you
know you're probably paying when I come. You know, it
depends you have, you know, property tax where you're at, right,
you know you're probably paying an extra you know, four
or five grand each year just to own that.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I've always wanted one, like you guys know, I've talked
about this. I always want one and that was my
biggest like rub with it, you guys hate it. That's
why I like replica cars because for what I want
to do with one, I'd want to drive it, and

(04:47):
I'd want to enjoy it, and i'd want to play
with it. But I know what they call.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
You have the money, why would you get a replica
you might as well get the authentic thing.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Because because I like money and I don't know, and
because I don't like to wait money. Okay, right, So
with the thought process of wasting money okay, the and
knowing what I plan on doing with it, what I
would want to do with it. Does that make sense?
So I would have a very hard probably time doing

(05:17):
it to a real Coontash. Does that make sense? Yeah,
it's like because I know I know myself. Look, you
guys heard the stories enough that you listen to the show.
I like to wheel a car and I like to
have fun with it. And you know, when you drive
them hard, things break, you tear things up, and you
gotta be able to fix them. It's not like you're
gonna go run right out and fix a Coontash.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
It's just knocking to you're gonna be sourcing parts, probably
spend a lot of money on those parts.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
That's the reason why replica cars I like them for
that particular. I mean that it's a really bad Coontash
rep they call replica. It's not red. They're just a
kick car that kind of looks resembles it. It's nothing
like it I'm talking about. There are some real replicas
out there, and that's probably the reason why I want
to own the replica. I would love to own a
real Coontash. If money was just no object all the time,
then yeah. But I know, so let's just read an article.

(06:03):
Guy's got two of them, really authentic or authentic, and
he's got him in his house. It's a display their art.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
See, that's what I would do too. I think that's
really cool when people hang hold on, when they hang
like f ones.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
In the in the kitchen, and you know, you got
to know, I showed you.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I think that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
So you know, the theater that told me, he's like, man,
I love to have an F one car like just
hanging in my living room and stuff like that. And
I said, that's pretty cool. I wanted So I looked
and I found him one. It was twenty three It
was twenty three thousand dollars. I mean, you get a
professional to hang it, you know, you strip it all out.
It's just a chassis, but it's still it's a really
cool art piece. Found I found. I found one. The
guy wanted twenty three grand for it. It didn't run,

(06:42):
and I asked what was wrong with it because we
didn't really care. But the engine was all there and
it didn't look cool putting it up on a wall,
you know, I mean all you it. It didn't have
a good paint job on it anymore. And I told him.
I was like, look, I said, we can go ahead
and just have it wrapped and make great art. And
you know that's just what it would be. But it's
you know, it's like I said, it's one of those deals.

(07:02):
The fact that this guy had two coontashes, both his
art and his house. I was just like, okay, got
money here that well, you're falling. I mean like right,
I mean I'd have to liquid everything I owned to
be able to probably pull that off, to have cars
his art, to coontash his art. But I mean I
could do it. I just wouldn't be able to have
anything else probably, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Even the movie The Tower Heist where he has the
gold Ferrari sitting in his house. Correct like that I
think is cool.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Too, you know. So I have a friend that I
know and he lived in Chicago and his dad had
a a Porsche GT, one of the older versions. The
it's it called the slant nose. You guys, I'm not
a big Porsche guy, but you got I'm sure every
you know what we're talking. It's like a slant nose Porsche,
like a nine to eleven maybe with the slant nose.

(07:48):
And he had his art. That's like he had it.
They had it parked like a pool table room, and
it was there his art. Now they had a way
to get it, you know, it can come in and
out of the building if they want to. But the
car just sat there, and I thought that, I mean,
I thought that was bathering. That was years and years
and years ago, you know, I mean, I just I
was like.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
That's that's one point three million on cars. If you
won what you would sell like.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Three million, but you got like after taxes you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Have like one point I'm buying my horse, I'm buying
my Porsche GT three r s because that's one of
my dream cars that you guys hear me talk about
that all the time, talking about it. I'm probably buying
a six to nine Challenger Monte Carlo and I'm dropping
it down to the floor.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
So what is it with you and Monte Carlo's lower
like like you talk about I think Mono like what
like the eighties hour the seventies style.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Probably the seventies style, okay, yeah, I'm probably the seventy style,
and I would I would drop it down, you know,
and putting like an old school datings?

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Are you putting on a newer style wheel?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Just lower newer style wheels, you know, like probably existing
because we can make this.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Dream happen for you.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
I see old low riders all the time, Like all
the time I see old low riders are like old
Monty Carlos that are the prices aren't horrible on him
and we got i mean like eleven grand and they
got pretty decent pages on.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Why vibes like ice cube vibes, you know, like yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know I want.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
It lower down on the doesn't know it would be
in the back.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, I think that's.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Not the money, Carl Camino.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Maybe Okaya comina my fault.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
Two different.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I was like two totally different cars here he said money.
I think he's thinking, because you saw the money, Carlo S. S.
El Camino, that's that's what you think. That's the reason
why I set them two together. And yeah, so it's
on the back and it's S. S. Money Carl on
the front. That's what is that? Guys?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
What you was?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
That? Was that eighty six eighty seven? I want to
say this is when they did that. I want to
say that was eighty six racing. Maybe a little newer,
somebody correct me wrong, but I think that's when they
did that. The S. S money Carlo el Camino. I
think that was like an eighty six or seven month
because it wasn't that like towards the that was the
Iraq years, you know, like cameo, I rock years right
in there or something like that. Yeah, so I am, yeah,
I knew you're gonna be looking it up. I don't know,

(10:02):
like I said, if I had the money.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Nine to sixty and it was fifty nine to sixty
nineteen sixty and then sixty four to ninety eighty seven.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
He's he's thinking like that. I know what he's looking.
He's not thinking the old one. He's seeking like the
eighty seven one. I know he is because I I
can different almost like what was your buddies they had.
They had the money Carlo. That was the s S
Monty Carlo for a while. So it's that flairing body
and then the bag. Yeah okay, yeaheah. But he had
the newer version he had like two no he no,
you guys had a friend who had like an eighty
seven money Carlo for a while.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Like an eighty sixty.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, he's guys got like the SS treatment
done to it. I knew what you were talking about
when you said it. I was like, all right, they're
not They would be fire.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I mean they would drop it down to the floor,
maybe put it on some bags, you know, hit the
button just literally.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I'll tell you what he's got. The weird like sometimes
your taste like in cars like mystifies me. He comes
out of nowhere with something like there was like you were,
you wouldn't know what R thirty two. For the longest time,
I wanted R thirty two.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I want to also, I want to import in R
thirty four because it justs he gets all his ideas
from g T A.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Is that what is that where he's getting them all?
Is it everything that you play in GTA And you're like,
I want one of these for real?

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Maybe I mean, but sometimes I just see like the girl.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Will come wins. Yeah, I remember out the window, Like
I mean, if I didn't buy, if I didn't like
buy like a supercar, like a coup talk something like that,
then yeah, I would break it apart and buy like
seven or eight different cars because then you have the
food just right right. Well yeah, I mean, but because
especially like but then I gotta get permission to make

(11:39):
the garage even bigger.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Well, no, you just use that money.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
You already have money, you buy you just buy another.
You guys are married, yet you don't realize just because
you have the money doesn't mean you just get actually by.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
A hideaway garage.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
You buy a garage just like right up the street
that nobody knows about. And that's collection he.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Met the hideway girl. You guys haven't seen the garages
on the ground that lifts up and see the elevator
talking what you're talking about. You guys haven't seen that.
Go look it up. It's actually pretty cool. I've been
admiring it for like fifteen years. When my first time
I said, it's very cool.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Very it's right below your actual garage and Alexandy park
it and then you have like an underground Yeah, it's
pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I No, you don't put an elevator because you don't
want people knowing about it.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
The only guy has the gravel driveway and the gravels
glued to the top of the to the top of
the lid and yeah, yeah, it lifts up with the
gravel and he pulls in so it looks like it's
a gravel driveway.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Definitely got some money to do that. Well, look put.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Some stor.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Right right.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
If money was endless for you guys, what would you
guys by? Like I said, I mean, I would like
I said, as much as I'd love to have it.
And here's another car I like to have too. I
like to have the Vector too, the Vector twos, I thought, Okay,
like I that was one of the cars I grew
up on was a kid, I don't know what the
price tag is on and there's not a lot of
those running around anymore. Like they I don't think they
made a whole lot of anyway. I think they made
very limited, limited limited production of those I've only seen.

(13:00):
I think I think I told you guys, I think
I've only seen like two in real life, So I
don't I don't think they made a lot. I think
it probably had a lesser run than Dorian ever had.
But they're a cool car, and I had one on
my wall when I was a kid, so I just
think it's kind of cool. I think it's what the
Vector two w D I think is what it's actually called,
as one of the models they had. But if you've

(13:20):
never seen one, go look at most of you guys
know what I'm talk about. It's pretty cool looking car.
But yeah, how many they make, Cameron, so you look
it up? How many Vector two's did they make? Do do? Dude?
I'm curious. I want to say less than around fifty? Yeah,
fifty cars, that's it?

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Yeah, Vector supercar. Yeah, they're they're ninety eighties and nineteen ninety.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Like I said, they were a cool car. I like
to have the what the Dodge Banshee I think is
it was called that?

Speaker 6 (13:45):
Was there?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
A little supercar thing that they made for the movie.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
I also think the three thousand is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Okay, so yes, here's the thing. I went mine old
three thousand, mister v GT. And I know everybody wants
the the all wheel drive model because it's you know, obviously,
But if I want it, I want to play with it,
like I want to be able to like drift it
and have some fun with it. And if you have
four wheel drive model, you you know, you know you're
not are the all wheel drivers? Just say but all

(14:12):
we will drive model. You're not doing that. But something
point he's not bad on those and soup up the
motor on those things and making them stupid crazy is
not really hard either, but you got to do a
lot of work. Don't make it dependable. I had a
friend that messed around with Mischion Bishi for years and
he had at five. It's not bad, they're not bad.
The price points aren't bad. But he had a really
nasty mission Bishi Eclipse. It was just insane. He did

(14:35):
a lot of motor work to it.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
That's when back in the day when he did like
a supercar for not really that.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Much, well it was a lot of money then.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Now yeah, yeah, but it's not like now we're like,
you know, they're charging you know, one hundred and thirty
two hundred thousand for you to look it up a
hypercars if.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Also have three million. I'm buying a Ferrari to fifty
GT because from you're from Zieler.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Like I said, what would you guys do? Endless money?
Well cars, you bob, I'm curious. Send me some messages,
send me texts. Let me know. I got to quick
commercial break. When come back, I got some more for you.
Right back, Hold tight.

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Speaker 1 (18:14):
Welcome back to Let's Talk Cars Radio. You're Automotive specialist.
Now back to your host Dave Polach.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Hey, guys, welcome back. Did you miss us? We're back?
That's right, So I got the next one for you?

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Ready, I'm ready? What you got?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
All right? You and I were talking about this off
the air, and then I went and did my little
magic and looked online and looked to see what a
little magic one saw. Everybody was talking about it stuff,
and it does make sense. So Nathaniel, I were talking
about when you buy a car nowadays, So I guess,
do people really do their research?

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
When you guys go to buy a car, are you
guys researching that car? Statistics show that people don't. They're
not researching any cars anymore. When I happen to that
is they're not, you know, they just they just go
to the dealership and they just show up and they
see a car they like, and they drive it and
they like it. Before you know what, they're making a
deal on it. It's go back twenty years, probably a
little bit longer. That even more is when people really

(19:13):
used to do complete research on the car before they
went and bought it.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Like what you think he had a better way of
you know, customizing the car to your liking. Everything was
you know, checkbox this checkbox that I.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Won't say it was a better way of customers. And
I understand what you're trying say. I'm trying to find
a better way to communicate that you had options, okay,
and the options didn't come like they do now, so
you could essentially build a car ground up one piece
of a time. I want to add this, I want this,
I don't want that. I want roll up windows, I
want power windows. Even before power windows probably came around
as normal, and we talked about that before, like you
could add all this stuff. Now, if you want this

(19:47):
one feature, you got to buy nineteen other things to
come with it in that package. You may not want
all that stuff. Like. So the question that got posed
to me was do people really think about engines in
their cars? And that's what Nathaniel right Arcole came out about.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
How come meanies are saying that consumers don't really care
about engines anymore or you know, internal combustions.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Right, And I said, I think they do, but I
think they only do when they have a problem. Right.
So I think the only time that people I've told
you that before, just cars in general. I think people
really truly think about everything on a car. And I'm
gonna talking about your car, guys that eat, sleep, and
breathe it like we do, right, I'm talking about the
average person who has a car. I don't think they
think about engine displacement size or any you know what

(20:28):
transmissions in that they don't do any of that research.
What I mean by that is does that car have
a good history of that transmission? Does that car have
a good history with that motor. They don't realize that
they may have something they didn't really want until it's
too late. They own it, they've had a problem, and
then when they jump online they find out that that
particular car has a really bad history with the transmission,
has really bad history with the motor. It has all

(20:48):
these problems. If you go to consumer report, which people
used to do all the time. I literally remember when
I was younger, but I remember the circle of conversations
and more probably with my parents it's friends, where they
would talk about consumer report, talking about this particular car,
like they got this report on it, here's the things
and stuff like that. Uh, you don't hear that anymore,

(21:09):
Like you just don't hear I don't. I don't hear
anybody talking about well, consumer but I think it says
this about a car.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
But I think that's from you know, the manufacturer's doing
of not advertising you know part it right. I don't
think they're leaning into it as much as they did
back then. You know, back then, you know you had
car magazines that you know, noted every little part they
gave you. You know, the scrige in people reading magazines
like right exactly, but you know they don't have the
overview that you know you had probably back then of

(21:34):
it as well as you know, like we were talking
about during commercial break, how you know back in the day,
you could select boxes. You could get the base trim
and still right, and you could get the basic option
where now it's packaged into.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
And what he means by that is you could buy
the base car, but you could put the best motor
they had available in it. You can't do that now,
Like that's not now. It's like you have to buy
the high end one to get the best motor versus
having I got the base model, but I want the
nicest motor that you have, and you compare those together,
and that was an option that's not really an option.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah, Like I was reading, like, you know, you could
get the better enginey for like one thousand and three
thousand dollars more, but nowadays you're spending you know, seven
to twenty k on the better performance car of all
that other crap, right, all the other stuff that you
probably don't need, but you have to have it to
get what you're looking for, right, Like, So I think it's.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Kind of like you can't buy like the base Mustang
and get the best motor they have available in it
unless you buy the GT model with everything in right
right or a handbrake makes sense.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
So I think they put theirselves in that conundrum of
where people aren't really viewing it that way because they
don't have the option to really get to the knit
and grill.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, it's like, so I can remember one of the
biggest conversations we had back in when I was very
heavily in the car business. Certain models have problems. Everybody knows.
I mean, it's a lot of you car guys. You
guys know, but the average customer has no idea what
they're driving. Like, they don't know, did I buy a
vehicle that has, you know, a really bad motoring it
or it has a really bad transmission. They have no

(22:59):
clue until they have the problem. And then I'm like, oh,
you're driving a what Oh please tell me he doesn't
have insert this motor model here, And they're like, oh,
I don't know, I have no idea, And then of
course you look and you're like, you do have it,
and it's the motor has a problem. Like if you
had a three seven on a Dodge is a three
seven they had the oil that has the oiling container problem.

(23:19):
Every single one of them where the oil filter, cooler
housing and all that kind of stuff came apart. Every
single one did it. They still do it to this date,
you know what I mean, most people have no clue.
But it's like a fourteen hundred dollars fix if you
do it right, you know. I mean, they're like and
people are just they had back moving into our parents generation,
they knew all that stuff, like they did all that
research and knew the history of what cars had those
certain issues. And I remember it being just normal talk

(23:42):
around the table. And it wasn't just at our house
because I grew up in a car house, but I
could go to my friend's house up the street and
his parents weren't car people. But I can remember as
the adults sat around the table when they had conversations,
they talked about like particular vehicles there if they're thinking
about buying a new car, and they're like oh, well, yeah,
we want to get this one, but we definitely don't
want this. And you know, I mean I knew because

(24:05):
the information was out there and it was handed down
to it was now. I laughed because cameras over there
shaking a sad about people not read magazines, because Cameron
grew up at the tail end of when I still
read magazines.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Hundreds of magazines I had.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
I'm a car guy, and they.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Before such an internet was so easy.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I had tons and tons of magazines when they were
smaller than I ask it. I literally I had all
the different ones, you name it. I had it, from
hot rod stuff to just regular car information stuff. I
was but I'm a car guy and I read that stuff,
and there was always in the bathroom tell them.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
But I feel like that was like you know, like
the thing on the diron table too, or on the
living room table.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
And that's part of the thing though. Back you know,
like you know, you didn't phones were you know, the
Internet wasn't really accessible to the point where like you know,
you know, people are using all the time.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Because you guys grew up just as the smartphone came right,
so you know, of course, you know why you're there.
You know, you're reading a magazine whatever. Now I I
read everything, like so I do. I still have magazines,
guys on my phone, just so you know, but their
magazines are on my phone, like I.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Read way too, because a lot of people aren't reading.
And then I do.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I still like you see me every week usually you'll
find me and I'm reading some article somewhere off of
but with what's left. But some of the best ones
are gone there.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Right that they're still in depth as much as they
were before.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Absolutely not. Now it's the I call them quick reads,
like right, so quick summary is yeah. I look at
a magazine and I could read all different articles and
it was great. You know, usually two or three page
write ups on a car. Now it's like quarter of
a page, half a page, little blurbs about cars. And
that's It's not what it used to be. And maybe
people I think focus. I don't think we stay as
focus we used to. We're so into our phones and stuff.

(25:43):
I don't think people's attention span is held like it
used to be. And if you think I'm kidding, if
you take a look, you guys know the new shorts,
that's a new thing. So TV shows are now going
to be like they're a little fifteen minutes shorts. That's it.
I don't like just shorts. They're gonna do that because
they say people's attention span on it is shorter. So
if we can't get through a half hour sitcom anymore,

(26:03):
or an hour long was the mini mini movie, cicons
whatever you're going, I don't what they call it, but
and we gotta go to fifteen minutes. You think somebody
really is gonna sit down and read a magazine cover
to cover like I used to do. I probably And
here's the thing. So I was just traveling and I
was going through the and I saw a car magazine.
I almost grabbed it, and I was just like, I'm
gonna buy this and I'm not gonna read it. I'm

(26:26):
still gonna play it. I know, I'm gona mess around
on my phone because I was I was like, what
a four hour flight or whatever it was, and I
was like, I know, I'm not gonna read that magazine.
And I thought I would, but I talked myself out
of buying it because I was like, well, I probably
could just read it up the stuff on my phone,
you know what I mean? And so I do believe
that that error has gone away. But like I remember,

(26:46):
like the car magazines you can build your own go
karts in the back and stuff like that, like all
the pieces and stuff like that. That air is coming
gone and kids will never know that. My kids came
at the tail end of that. How about that.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I remember a magazine they used to have a section
for the kids where it was like you do like
a little maze hunt where you do like a little coloring,
and then you could send it in and they would
to send Yeah, so I was the car one.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Of the car magazines, if the car show, but you
know they used to there was a car show we
used to watch where you know, they would actually take
a car, tear it all down and build it with
you know, high performance parts. And then they during the
commercials or they're you know, the little screen ads, they
would show you the parts that you could buy and
where to get them.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
No, they that show is no longer on anymore. I
can't rerun name, but yeah, I try to look it.
I couldn't find it. It's I can't rename. But you
guys watch with them when you guys are smaller, and
I can't remember what the show, But yeah, they basically
it was. It was the longest infomercial ever. It was
like they were working on the car, but it was
basically just a big, one, big.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Car ad, you know, and the girl comes on and
you know, she's describing the car. Were the shop at
I can't remember that show. No, that wasn't Roadkilled was
on Motor Trend. Well wrote, well, it wasn't, but they play.
I think it went over to Motor Trend later on.
It wasn't an original on more Trend because more Trend
TV wasn't around back then when you guys were when
you guys watching that stuff with me.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Was it T and T maybe or something like that.
They had it on on Saturdays or Sundays, Guys, remind
me which one it was. It was way was one
of those channels that did the car stuff in the
morning and you watched all of it, and they used
to sit down and watch all of it with me.
And then usually by that time after came with lunchtime,
and then we switched over to playing car games on
video right, playing video game car games.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
But I feel like that's why, you know, people aren't
really interested anymore because we've kind of gotten away with
really deep diving and giving the information out, and we've
kind of packaged everything up so you don't have to
really know what you're looking.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
It's amazing to me how many people don't know, like
twenty years back history of what vehicles have had problems,
and they keep on having the same problem. When you
say to somebody, they're like, oh, I never knew that,
And I'm like, we're I'm to me, I'm like, where
have you been for twenty years? Like we For instance,
you guys do know I'm a Chevy guy through and
I love my Chevy trucks. I tell you, guys, but

(28:55):
I know I can tell you if you own a
Chevy truck, you're gonna put a transmission one why you
own it? And he there's people like have never heard that?
They're like really, I'm like, yes, yes, If you own
a Chevy truck, you're putting a transmission. If you own
a Ford truck, you're putting a transmission. If you own
a Dodge truck, guess what you're putting a transmission. For
some cars, it depends on the years.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Like you know, they tell you, they tell you to
stay away from these years because you know, they haven't
fixed the problems almost like you know, we're going.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Well, they do, but they just make it's the same problem.
They just make it worse a.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Lot, right, or they fix it like you know, Like
example is like the three fifty you know, had a
really bad oil consumption and the I think what the
VQ is where I think the comes in, you know,
two thousand and three fives and then they came out
with the HR model that kind of fixed it.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Well. So I'll give you an example. If you had
a four hundred, If you had three fifty four hundred
transmission essentially kind of basically the same thing. Then you
had the seven hundred, seven hundred R. So seven hundred
R and an L and four L sixty are exactly
basically the same transmission. There's a couple of different slight differences,
but they're essentially the same transmission. Then you had the

(29:57):
four L sixty E and the four L sixty eve
was you got rid of the cable on it, so
then it became electronics. Everything was adjusted. If you guys
remember the seven hundred and the four L sixty everything
was cable driven. If you didn't adjust the cable correctly,
it burnt the transmission up. You can take a brand
new transmission and burn a brand new transmission up. But
a lot of people don't even know the history of

(30:18):
those transmissions and how bad they really were. I gotta
take quick rush to break you guys. Hold tight. We'll
continue this as I come back right back.

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Speaker 2 (34:10):
So before we took commercial break, we were talking about
all the okay, so the old car shows, and we
were talking about how they're I think that's what led
people into caring maybe a little bit more about like
what they were pursuing, what they were buying, have been
more informed on what they were buying. And we were
trying to remember some of the name of the shows
that they watched with me when you were younger. We
figured it out why we're on commercial breaks. So the

(34:31):
one that the big one that Nathaniel and camer we're
talking about was Power Nation. So if you guys remember
Power Nation, and it was I felt like for me
it was a very large information uh infomercial because but
I get it, because they would like, we're gonna these
are the parts. They lay all the parts on the
table and they tell you what it was. And what
they did and what the benefit of having, and then
they would show and put it. They would take you

(34:51):
all the way through putting it on the car, but
they take you through.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Right, it wasn't It wasn't a glamor right.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Right, right?

Speaker 3 (34:56):
It was, So they kind of that, and they would
show you parts as well, but then go, we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Use this because of this. You know another one in
which I think is basically the same show, and I
think it just changed names. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong,
but you had a hot Rod TV because I think
that had Joe Elmore Elmore in it too. I think
I think he was in that show too, Okay, but
I think it was kind of the same show. And
then things changed around. I was telling them one of
the ones we used to watch all the time, I

(35:21):
liked a garage squad, and then I liked it. So
I realized that they only did cars like an Illinois. Like.
I could never figet why they were always like as
they're driving headed to the customer's house, they were always
in cornfields. And then I did some research and I
was like, like every place they go was like an Illinois.
Maybe they went to Indiana, but they were right in
that area, and they stayed in just in that general area,

(35:41):
and I don't know why they didn't traveling for maybe
budget costs for the show or whatever it was.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
And I think those shows were good because they're not
They weren't glamorized like you said. They were more information show.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
They were they kind of walked you through some things.
I mean, I can tell you that there's some shows
I watched I feel like I learned nothing because they
just gloss over the repair real quick and they didn't
really show it. And there was ones that kind of
looked a little bit more time to kind of take
you none of them. It's not like watching YouTube nowadays.
The best thing about YouTube to be really honest with
you for me is and I'm not a big YouTube
person to be honest with you guys. I know there's
a lot of you guys out there that are. But

(36:10):
if I'm trying to figure out something I want to
do to a car, especially like in the hot rotting
world and muscle cars and stuff like that, somebody's already
probably done it and filmed it and put it on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
And I want to show all the struggles that you
went through, so I know I'm not the only one
going through this struggle.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
When I do find a YouTube video, I do kind
of go through it really really quick to see if
it's going to walk me through some of the stuff,
or if it's a guy that does more talking than
then he does showing, and that's annoying. It's gives me
more stuff that doesn't But a lot of guys have
gotten better with that over the years. They literally walk
you through, you know, bit by bit right, and even
if they miss something, you can kind of figure that
stuff out. But that's what I That's why I like

(36:47):
YouTube because I go to it and I don't I'm
not going to it for like, uh, your regular everyday
car repair. But when I'm like working on like something
and I want to customize something, I'm like, Okay, I
know I want to take the stock gas tank and
I want to visual yeah, I'm like, okay, I know
I want to put a bigger fuel pump system, and
then I need to have bigger lines and okay, what's
the route. Do I just buy it or has somebody
taken this and modified it. I go on YouTube and

(37:08):
I look and I'm like, oh, look, someone's already done
exactly what I was seeing about doing Okay, what was
what were the struggles he ran into trying to make
that happen. That's what's great about it. We didn't have that,
you know, twenty years ago.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Right, they dropped it in. They show the struggles or
I always.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Hey when I watch and now we're buttoning it up,
and I'm like, right, it's not that easy. I'm like, no, no,
you're not. Like I know, there's like nine hours off
camera of you guys struggling with that thing. You didn't
show me. You used to drive me nuts, But especially
when I was generally interested in what they were doing,
I was like, Oh, this is gonna be cool. And
they have it on the table and they talk about it,
and then like two minutes later, it's in the car
and they're like just tightening up the last ball, and

(37:44):
I'm like, come on, now. Now, there's a show and
I won't say the name of it that does a
lot of that now and I can't watch it, but
I do like one of the guys that I'll you
guys be probably figured it out. I like one of
the guys that's in the show because he's been in
a bunch of other shows working on cars, but now
he's on the show with a different host, and uh,

(38:05):
they spend more time just kind of messing around. And
I think that show has now probably been canceled since
you know all that most of all the car shows
are done.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
You know, I think for you know, people that don't
really care about the deep dive of it, but for
those that are really interested into the build.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
And I say and I say that, So there's a
lot of people who watch car shows as background I
call it background noise. It's on and they kind of
glance up a little bit and the car and they're
messing with their phone. They're like, oh, yeah, let's kind
of have a neat car. And then there's guys who like,
look at watch it like I do, and I'm dissecting
and going, man, I like the mod they did. How
did they accomplish that? And then they don't tell me,
and I'm frustrated. And then I find myself online going like,

(38:42):
is there is this car online somewhere where it shows
this car closer and there's a video or something like that.
I figure how they how they accomplish that?

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Because you see yourself doing that particular mod or whatever.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Road. So I'm uh somewhat interested in under under the
hood body panels where you know, you decorative to cover
up the motor and stuff like that, and I would
really like to teach myself how to do that more,
but I haven't found enough information out there for me
to feel comfortable for me to go buy the tools
and put them in my garage to have a roller
and a metal shrinker and all the different things that

(39:16):
you I mean, there's some people out here don't do
it and probably know a lot more than I do,
but I'm just kind of starting to dabble and look
to see what's out there to have. But you know,
like they got the metal hammer and stuff like that,
Like I want mind owning some of that stuff, but
no one's ever taught me that, and I don't. I
don't know it, nor have I ever watched anybody to
a full extent do it live in front of me
to understand everything that goes into that. I like the

(39:38):
outcome when I see it, and I realized for me
to achieve that, I'll probably have to pay somebody to
do that for me. But I do have some interest
in doing myself. So you know, I told you guys,
you've got a Chevy pickup truck. They're gonna be doing
next as soon as white Noise comes out. And there's
some customs stuff that needs to be done to to
bring that truck to the stands and stuff I want,
So they probably change the wheel wales and stuff like that,
so custom wheel weels need to be made and all

(39:59):
that kind of stuff. I have the interest in wanting
to do that myself, but I don't own any of
that equipment. I don't own any of those tools, and
I don't know anybody that owns an English wheel or
anything like right, I don't know those and it's not
worth I know we're going to find I know who
I know who in the industry in our area that
it probably has that stuff. But at that point in time,
you're gonna pay him to do it. I don't know.
But I do have interest in kind of maybe knowing
how to do that. But then I start thinking about it,

(40:21):
I really want to take up a section of my
garage to have to house all those tools to be
able to do that, And usually the answer for me
is in the boys to tell you is no, I
don't like clutter. I don't do very well with clutter
in my garage.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Especially, you're only going to use it like one.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
That could build a wing that was just dedicated to
doing that, so it didn't clutter my garage because I'm
just weird like that. I don't They'll tell you, I
don't like things laying all over my benches for long
periods of time, stuff like that. I just I like
a nice, clean work environment in a garage and it
drives me nuts. So that's probably reasonhy.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
I always what you always do is get a little extension,
put it on the back, and then just cut a
hole of the wall.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
And I have a little wall cut through the custom
wall and you know the nice wood.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Well, you can't be a beggar Innes.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Apparently you can be. And if I didn't tell you guys,
I kind of already got the green light to add
an extension of the garage. But that's just so uh,
tractors and stuff going to that extension. And if I
have a project car I can't get to right this second,
it could be squeezed into that back portion of the
garage and sit there underneath the cover and it would
be you know, mass a cover.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
We're talking about a whole another.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
You know, like maybe maybe we need a storage room,
you know, where we just store all our partner's not
helping me, buddy, Like I already like envisioned doing all
those things and having all those things. But you know
I have I do have a wife that you know,
you can.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Only parts room and a little coverall.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
If they're gonna get me in trouble and Don's gonna
like just want to fry me for sure, I know
it's covering. Karon's over there, shake his head going up,
or like we know, like we talked about, you just
get it. You know, you get a side garage, you know,
you just you know, we got enough room to put
another garage out there. I just don't think I want
to put it if I want to do anything. Honestly,
when we built the megagage, and the megarage is big,
it's a big space. I originally I think I told

(41:56):
you guys, was gonna put like another probably like sixty
feet onto the gird originally, and I talked myself out
of doing it because I was afraid that it would
look too big and too gaudy out here in the
property with the house and everything like that. But now
I own everything. I really should have did it, Yeah,
because something that retail space is used up for storage,

(42:16):
or we could fit quite a few cars in the
megagarage the way they park and stuff like that, and
still work on things and stuff like that. The problem
with it is is, as you guys know and listen
to me talk, I like to drag things home. It's
like lost animals, except for me. It's with cars. I
see cars and I go, well, no one's touching that,
and it really needs to go home with me. The
problem with this, I don't first forgive this. I don't

(42:37):
like things in my driveway. If I never told you
guys that I hate vehicles in my driveway, I don't
want anybody know really what I'm up to or what
I got sitting around that I'm getting ready to work on.
I don't like the look. Even though we're I'm big
pieces of property. You know, you still do have neighbors
that they really want to look down your driveway or
look over from their propit. They can see it. And
I don't like things laying around on my drive I
just never like that look. I didn't like it when
I had a smaller house, we had the four car

(42:58):
garage beyond the house. The one thing I like about
that house was is you couldn't see anything we were
working on because the garage was behind the house and
the driveway went up past the house and round to
the back to the garage, so no one ever knew
that when Nathaniel had his car completely blown into a
million pieces, nobody knew it was back there, all torn
apart what he was working on because it was hidden
in the street. And I like that option. Here we're big,
open pieces of property and nobody's right on top of

(43:20):
each other. But I still just don't like having cars
torn apart in nice drop a car off and let
it sit there without having to move. So my thought
process is with putting the extension on the garage, which,
like I said, my wife's pretty much already green light
of that, thanks Don. But that's going to be so
like I said, well, you know, we got big tractors
and stuff that we need a house, and I want
to put the tractors back there, And like I said,

(43:40):
I think realistically I might be able to squeeze two
project cars back in there if I if I needed to.
Parts room would make a big is going to be for.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
The sled, so we can we can get.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
So and we do have a regular garage connect to
the house, but that's supposed to be for my wife's car.
But in all fairness, my wife had me build a
very large Christmas sleigh, Santa Sleigh. It's as big as
a car, and it takes up one of the car
spots in the regular garage for right this second. So
at some point in time when we build the extension.

(44:13):
The way I got away with kind of getting away
with building extension was, you know, I could take the
sleigh out and put it in the extension garage and
then you could have your full garage back again. So
but look, I didn't ask if somebody asked me to
build it, but I refuse to house it in my garage.
That tells you how much I if you guys can't
figuret how much I don't like clutter and the garage.
I won't let the sleigh sit in my in the
mega garage because it is as big as a car,

(44:34):
and yeah, I don't want to stare at it. I
like a clean garage. So the deal was it had
to go in the other garage, so it takes up
one car spot in the other ground you see it, Yeah,
you won't have to see it. If so, hopefully we'll
get done. I'm not gonna build anything really big. I
think I'm probably over going to go probably twenty foot
out more. I think that'd be enough for what I
need to do. And I'm gonna put a little pad
on the front, so if I did want to park something,

(44:54):
they could be on the pad in front of that ground.
It'll be back behind it. You would never see it
because it's out there on the backside of the garage.
So that's the plan. Somebody was asking me about what
was going on with Megarach, could we talk about before?
So yeah, think that's gonnaen up happening. You just gotta
get it all done. I gotta take another commercial break. Guys.
When we come back, I got just a little bit
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Speaker 4 (48:50):
Hey, guys, welcome back.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
All right, So I'm gonna pose you guys to question
because it was given to me. Here's some of you
probably aren't gonna like this, but it comes up by
some videos that were sent to me, and I'm just curious.
So we know there's a lot of crazy stuff going
on out in the news. And you guys know I'm
not a big political person. Even in my political least,
I don't really carry into this show. Just don't like

(49:14):
doing it. I know people have tried to bait me
into doing it for years and I just refuse to
do it. But it brings up an interesting question. Lately.
If you've been watching the news, you see there's a
lot of different protests going on, and some people call
them peaceful protests, some people call them non peaceful protests.
I'm not going to debate that with you. What I
am going to debate with you is the whole issue
of blocking roads. Okay, where people are blocking off the road.

(49:38):
And I know you guys have seen it. You have
to be sleeping on anything the rock if you haven't
seen it's been not the first time it's happened, It's
been going on for years, and you're getting the situation
where people are getting run over. I have had tons
of videos people have sent to me and they're like,
what do you think about the situation? What would you do?
How would you have handled it? Would you've handled it different?
And like I said, I'm not easily baited into these conversations,
but I think it does open up a little little

(50:00):
conversation piece. Right. So I saw one the other day
that was sent to me and the person sitting there
and they start beating on the car and then here's
what you sound like, is the window busting as soon
as the window bust, the guy takes off and he
hits some people. I don't think I didn't hear boy
I'm killing anybody, But obviously you could see he hit
some people. He probably ran over a leg or two. Whatever.
I mean, you know, not saying that, not justifying it.

(50:23):
I'm just saying I keep giving these videos sent to me,
and it keeps happy, and I see people. I saw
another one where a lady jumped out in front of
car and she's got her hand in the car and
she's walking with a car, and before you know it,
the car kind of bumped her and she went flying
this way and he took off, kept on going, and
people are like, oh, I cannot believe that guy hit him.
And I'm looking at it, going, Okay, I understand where
you' come from, but I can't believe you were dumb

(50:44):
enough to stand out in front of a car that
was moving that you made stop, and then you decided
to do harmed that person's property and thought that there'd
be no repercussion for so and how did we get
to that point? How do we get the point where
you think there's no repercussion now? So I started thinking
about it, and what brought it up a conversation a
little bit more in detail was what if you were

(51:07):
heading home from a car show and you're driving one
of your prize possessions and you get caught up in
that and these people start beating on your prize possession.
What do you think the reactions. I know what my
reaction would be. You're not gonna like it, but I
can tell you what my reaction would be, so I
get what people are coming from. I saw the one
that somebody sent me, a guy named a Chad. He

(51:29):
sent me a video and then I ended up seeing
it on the news too after he sent me. But
it was a woman trying to get to work and
they blocked it and she's literally trying to like I
won't say she's negotiating with him. She just explains, like
to get to work right, and then you and giving
her a hard time and stuff like that, and she
was just trying to get to work and the frustration.

(51:49):
I felt her frustration in the video as I watched it,
and I think I got a little bit longer pro
portion of it than what I saw in the news,
so it's more the full detailed of it and nowhere
do I ever see that she's out of hand. She's
just she's like, I got to get to work. This
is ridiculous. You know, Look, you have all the right
in the world to do what you're what you're doing,
but like traffic needs to move on. When did we

(52:11):
just believe it was okay to jump out on the
freeway or jump out in front of roads and stop
cars And never think, first of all, if I'm driving
fifty five miles an hour down the freeway and you
jump out in front of me to try to stop
me in some fashion or protest or whatever, there's probably
a good chance I'm not getting my car stopped enough
to keep from hitting you. Right, But let's just say

(52:33):
that I was lucky enough to get my car stopped
and then you start beating on my car. What is
I'm posing the question, you guys, is what is the
appropriate reaction? Yeah? What what is the What's what's the
approper reaction?

Speaker 4 (52:49):
I mean, I think it's a little touchy subject.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
I think it's very toughy sug we want to talk about.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
It depends on the circumstances of you know, if it's
a open road that hasn't been blocked off and we're
talking about road, right, and someone you know is intervening
with you, and you're trying to you know, obviously you
can't sometimes back up and go a different way back
trying to take whatever right. So I think that you know,
at a certain point, you know, I get they're trying
to push their message, but you almost have to let

(53:15):
them through so they can get I mean, honestly, you're
you're in an unauthorized area.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
So I'll set it up for you a little bit
easier because it is. Look, I debated if we were
going to talk about this. To be really honest with you,
I truly debated if I was going to talk about it, because,
like I said, I feel like people try to bait
me into these conversations. Sometimes it can be taken different ways. Right,
But you're driving down a road. Let's just say you're
going down pick whatever road it is in your neighborhood,
and I'm just saying it's a regor road that takes

(53:41):
you buy coals, or takes you by the mall or
whatever it is in your town that's popular, and it
takes you and you're just driving and before you know it,
twenty people step off the sidewalk in front of right
before you get to them, and they block the road
with signs and stuff like that, right and you are
forced to come to a stop. Why you're forced to
stop they start to get wrapped because they're beating on
the hood of your car and all the stuff that

(54:02):
I've seen in these videos. And I'm not saying this
happens every single time, but most of the videos have
have sent this is the reaction, like I said, to
the point where they're now punching the cars, they're busting
out windows. What do you do next? What is the
appropriate I think reaction.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
I think, you know, if they're already punching on the
car and they're beating your car up, I think that,
you know, a small nudge isn't hurtfle But I don't
think that you should you know full.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
I'm not saying right, I'm not saying what I'm saying right.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
I don't think fluorin is a good answer, because I
think you're doing more harm than good. But I think that,
you know, sometimes you do kind of kind of punch
your way through, you know, but you can do it
in a way.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
They start beating on your car harder.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
I mean, regardless of what position you take, they're just
gonna be on your car if you if you stay
still or you know, slowly roll it and.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
You know you want to make sure that break its
out of the way. But so it's very hard for
me to make a decision on this guy. So I'll
be honest with like I said, I mean, you're much toy.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
If you want to take the most safest way you know,
and you know it's unfortunate and then you know you
just gotta kind of get out of your car and
start walking.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I mean, that's the most safest, you know way to
do it. Let me, I'll give you a better scenario.
Because camera steaem very quiet. I think it's funny's over.
They're just kind of like, I don't know, because it is.
It is a very touch subject for people, and I
get it. I've loaned you the trans Am, right, you
have my Transam in your possession. You know how much
I love that car? Yeah, numbercent. You know it's got

(55:24):
a very expensive pain job on it that nowadays, it
probably cost you forty thousand dollars to have that car
paint it. You get stuck, they start beating on the
transam while you have my pride possession and your possession
driving it right, you know, just simple ring smacking against
the body panel of cars enough to do what? Yeah, damage,
paint damage right, absolutely scratch. What happens what? Like I said,

(55:48):
I mean the appropriate reaction.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
It depends on the circumstances. I mean, regardless of cars
are going to get beat on, whether you you know,
you're not fixing that right, like you're not fixing you know,
car insurance may or may not cover it. I can
tell you're gonna argue with them, guarantee. We've already been
on this where you know how this on your car
You had a custom pain jump and they didn't want
to pay for anything. So I mean, like I said,
circumstances apply and stuff. But regardless, the car is probably

(56:10):
going already get beat up on. Now it's up to
you how you know far that damage goes. I think
that you know depend you know, depending on where you're
at and what's going on and stuff. I think a
small nudge does doesn't do any wrong. I mean, you're
already gonna have the car kind of damaged, but you
don't want it vandalized. So you know, if you can
you know, slow walk the car just kind of through,

(56:31):
give people the you know, the room to get out
of the way, just so you can get to your destination.
If it's blocked on, you know, unintentionally, I mean intentionally blocked.
I think that's the best way to do it. But
I mean, if you can afford just let your car
sit there and you don't want to have any problems,
probably just you know, get out and start walking. But right,
I'm got to say that.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
I need to say that, guys.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
So, I mean, but regardless of what route you go down,
you're gonna have some damage to the car. Now, if
they're not beating on your car, I think that you
probably shouldn't be punching through the you know, the crowd,
even at a slow crawl. You know, if they're not
doing any damage, probably the best bet is to stay.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
I won't get it. I'm gonna be irritated, but you
probably won't invoke a reaction from me if i'm I'm
gonna be irritated that you got me blocked off and
I'm stuck, right, and then I got to figure out
how we're gonna get unstuck. And you hope the police
come and solve that. But if they haven't in the cars,
you're not gonna leave. I'm you're not leaving your car.
If it was my trans Amd, it was the Nova,
if it was anything, I mean, even if it was

(57:30):
my truck, I'm not leaving my vehicle. I can tell
you I'm not because already I I already have an
assumption of what's gonna probably happen my vehicle. And if
I say number one, okay, so that's not happening, And
if there's no result for me to get out of
it and the police don't assist or whatever, you can
only sit there for so long. You're not gonna sit
there for hours while you try to deliver whatever message
you're trying to deliver. Right, not things, I.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Got it, But I do think that's probably the best result,
is if they're not beating up on a car, because
once you try to push your way through, then you
incentivize for the to do, you know, what they want
to do. So it's kind of, you know, your best
bet is kind of sit still if nothing's going wrong,
But if it is, then you kind of want to
get out of there for your own safety and for
your property sake.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
So do you think there's money being made if we
like to invent water cannons and go in the back
of pickup trucks like you see these big, huge, crowd
clearing water canyons. Did you have on your own personal You're.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Definitely getting some backlash on that water canyons. Look if
it's if it's a trans am, I'm probably.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Well to get in the days though, to come through
and actually.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Have people on the highway.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
I'm getting off on the exit and then just going
down the road and trying to get on the other exit.
But I was about to say, if you're stuck and
it gets to the point where you're hitting the vehicle
I with the Florida governor.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
I mean, you.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Know, I totally.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
I won't say it on the air, but it's just
like if it got to the I understand you're trying
to get a message across, but no message gets across.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
It if you want to and you want to get
your message out. I'm not saying that's not the case.
I'm saying when you start destroying things that belong to
me and my property, or you're hindering me and my
right away, that's where you I don't I guess I
don't know where the line is, guys of what's right
and wrong. I know what's wrong is that you're blocking

(59:24):
me that I don't I know one is wrong.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
I think you should always choose peace unless otherwise everything
I've had sent to me that that's happening, there is
none of that to be hppy.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Unfortunately, like you stepped out the road, you're blocking a
major road. You're not looking, as far as I'm concerned
for peace at that point in time, you're looking for agitation.
You're you're you're going to find exactly what you're looking for. Me,
then you remember that not everybody is out there to
do harm. No, no, I'm not saying that, And they
do make.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Something other than the message or not. I totally understand
it trying to get the message out. But you're pushing
something else to the rather than the message when you
start tapping vehicles and causing harm and then also putting
them in the position of they don't know what's going
to happen next.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
So, like I said, I knew it was a touchy subject,
but I had to ask because I don't like to.
I've never tried to dodge anything when people are asking
me the question, and they they're like, I asked you
this question, you didn't answer on the air, or so
like that. I'm not dodging it. I know it's a
touchy subject for people, and just just from the smalls,
Like I said, just a small conversations I had before

(01:00:27):
I brought this the air with talk with people within
certain forms and stuff. It was all over the map
on people's reaction to it. Kind of curious what your
guys are. If you guys have an opinion, send it
to a texted, emailed whatever. Just curious. I don't know
if it's my prime possession. It's a fine line for
you guys. I'm not gonna lie on that note. I
gotta go ahead and get out of here. You guys
enjoy your Saturday. Hope you guys are enjoying the car show.

(01:00:49):
Hope you guys enjoyed the show. Sunday is right around
the corner, and make sure you unplug, spend some time
with your kids, fire at the barbecue, playboard game with him,
do something, even watching old car movies. What we've been
doing is tests. I've been given old movies, and they
been giving me movies to watch. It's been kind of fun.
To do, so try that and see if you guys
like that. We'll talk to you guys next week. We're
out of here.