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June 11, 2023 • 61 mins
In this bonus episode we interview paranormal investigator Richelle G!
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M Welcome everyone to Life Beyond sixfeets. I'm Damien from r KB Paranormal,

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and this is gonna be a bonusepisode to kind of wrap up season
two. We just had the seasonfinale drop, but this is gonna be
a bonus episode, so we actuallygot an extra episode here for season two.
Joining me this week is paranormal investigatorRochelle g Rochelle Welcome to Life Beyond
six feet. Oh man, thankyou so much for having me. I'm

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I'm wicked excited to be here,of course, of course, and then
I came across to you because yousent a message on Facebook to my team
RKB Paranormal, asking permission to useprobably our most well known video. And
we'll get into all that here ina little bit, but that's that's how
I ran across you and now andI thought it would be cool to have

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you on the show. So yeah, I'm so happy to be you asked
me to be on the show.I was like, hey, yeah,
let's go. I couldn't. Likelots of people I'm sure that have been
through that place, and I've seenthat video, which we'll get into.
I was just dumbfounded at the andthe story got even better, like they
loved out the best part. Butyes, I wanted to see you.

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Possibly I could use that evidence becausewhile I received my own h awesome experiences
there, I mean, nothing topsup, man. That is just and
you got lucky because I don't wedon't get that many messages on Facebook,
so I don't check it that often. But just I think I got a
bay accident. I just happened toaccidentally swap over from my personal page to

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that page and was like, ohhey, there's a message on here.
So yeah, it wasn't very longat all. Actually, you got right
back to me pretty much, andI was like, yeah, of course,
I'm like score, yeah, allright, Well we're just gonna go
ahead and just dab right into thesaying, Rochelle, so what kind of
sets you out onto your paranormal journey? Oh boy? Originally you mean oh
dang, um well, originally,way back in the day when I was

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little, what started me out,I think was my late father and I
would we were always doing something,always camping, fishing, whatever. And
we had this one spot actually whereI where I grew up in Florida.
Um, it's in Pasco County.It's a it's a public park. You
can camp there, and they hadjust recently found a homestead that was very

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deep in the woods from the originalfamily. So the homestead included, of
course the home site which was superold from the eighteen hundreds, some old
cattle fencing, an old well,and of course of course graves. So
we would take old disposable cameras andwe'd walk down the trail at night,
which you were allowed to do ifyou camp there, and just try and

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capture He was probably just amusing ya. I don't know, but one night
in particular, the park was extremelyempty. In fact, we were the
only people there in the in thein the part we were camping out,
we were the only people there.I was definitely the only child there.
I was about seven or eight.And we walked down the trail. I
felt like it was super late.It was probably only about eight o'clock at

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night, and head our cameras walkeddown the trail to this little thing stood
right in from the grave sites,which was sort of set up like a
cul de sac, like one wayin, one way out. And I'm
looking across the way there and there'stwo little kids like hanging on the fence
like yeah, I'm like dad,like, what the hell you told me?
Who's being the kid here? Youknow, before you get old and

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awkward, you want to play withkids. And he's like, oh,
you you absolutely are the only kidhere. And we were looking at each
other saying that, and we lookedback at him and we literally watched them
get down off the fence and disappear. Oh wow. Yeah, so I
now just thinking about it, sothat for me, definitely, I just

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I couldn't get enough. I couldn'tget enough after that, even at that
young age. I know a lotof people started off this journeying with gifts
and living in haunted houses even orjust whatever the case may be. It
was this one event that kicked itoff, and I can't get enough even
now. I understand that, soso a sad from that one experience as
a young child. Was there anymore personal experiences growing up? I just

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got you more intrigued or did youjust kind of do like a lot of
research a little bit of both.So after I started paying attention and realized
saying that there's definitely a much nowthis is again I'm dating myself, and
I was. I was born ineighty five, so we're talking about like
the best time for like TV.Right, So we had X files,

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we had unsolved mysteries, we hadyou know, even Rescue nine one one.
I don't know if you remember thatone that was sort of touched on
it a little bit. So,you know, growing up as an especially
a young impressionable child, if youwere allowed to watch the stuff, which
I usually wasn't, but I wouldconsume it, you know, in the
in the in the closet. Um. It definitely made you realize that,

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you know, it's not your world, isn't as small as you'd feel like
it is sometimes. So Um.Again, it was once I started paying
attention to that aspect of it,UM, and my grandmother at the time,
my father's mother, UM, noticedthat I would start picking up these

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books and started reading. She's like, you know, our family, nobody
will talk about it, but ourfamily comes from a long line of people
with gifts. You might you mightbe gifted. Um. I don't think
that I am in the sense ofif I'm on a normal investigation, I
can't legit like see or speak toright, but I do feel and see

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an energies. So I don't thinkI got the full basket of gifts,
but I definitely think I ran offa little piece of it, so right,
Um, yeah, it was justa firestorm of research and trying to
just learn as much as I canand trying to just figure out like what
exactly is going on, you know. Right, So I'm kind of the

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same way. I don't feel likeI really have any gifts. I'm more
or less I can kind of geta sense about some stuff. But my
wife, she has, She's beentold she's like, you know, she's
a little bit of a medium.She's a little bit of clairvoyant, and
she always gets these senses before weeven really get to the building. He's
like, I just I think it'sgonna be a good night. I have
that feeling. And yeah, andI'm like, man, I wish I

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could I could do that. Iwish I could just just get those feelings,
you know. But um So,now, obviously you're an investigator.
So do you have an actual teamthat you go out with or do you
mostly do solos? Do you liketo collaborate a lot with other investigators?
Like how how do you go outinvestigating? Um? Up until recently,

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I have been on my own andI sort of did that on purpose,
mainly because I don't how can Isay this that sounded like a jerk.
I don't agree with the way alot of people do things. And it's
not like, you know, everybody'sgot their own style and that's okay.
I'm okay with that. But there'slike I figured out pretty early on that

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there's this whole other genre of ofinvestigation style. It's not like you know,
you flowers and you sit in acircle. I'm not talking about that
either. I'm just talking about likemaybe not going in with the same questions
of like, yo, bro,how did you die? I think they
get tired of talking about that.And honestly, I got my start doing

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the no name Like I would gointo abandoned places, abandoned buildings, waterfalls
with terrible stories like lovers lanes wherepeople were murdered, like that's where I
would start, and I would findout that there's actually a lot of spirits
there that were dying to talk punintended, but you know that had these
stories that were that were much differentand much deeper than some of the ones

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that you see on TV all thetime. I think once a story gets
out or maybe even a little bitof the history. I think everything just
sort of plays off of that anddon't really have the entire story, and
they get tired of talking anyway.So like anybody would if you have to
work every night of your life andanswer the same questions and you know,
the same things happen, and it'sthe same light in the same ky two

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meters and all that. So,um, it's dang, it's it's tricky,
it's it's hard. I've definitely beenby myself most of the most of
the time, just for that reason. It's not that I don't get along
with people. I just find iteasier to get what I need out of
what I'm doing without all of theother mess that goes on with it.

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Up until recently, Up until recently, now, recently, I have been
collading with a lot of people.You have to sort of be careful,
especially in the YouTube world. I'msure you having a YouTube channel understand that.
In fact, a lot of thepodcasts that I've been on before,
you don't really like to talk aboutYouTube channel because people automatically describe you as
a as a you know, clickbait, thumbnail chase and whatever, and that's

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a whole nother discussion for another time, but unfortunately a lot of times you
have to utilize those tactics to getpeople excited about what you're doing. But
I digress. We won't go there. But yes, to answer your question,
very very roundabout way, I dotechnically usually run by myself up until
lately, all right, And andit takes a lot of a lot of

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courage deduced and stuff like this byyourself, especially on a consistent basis.
Now it's different from Okay, I'mout with six or seven people, I'm
going to go in this room bymyself for fifteen minutes, spending the entire
night by yourself, and that thattakes a lot of a lot of gust
And to give me props for that, because I don't know if I'd be
able to do a whole location justby myself. So yes, thank you.

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I it's um you know, alot of the again, a lot
of the bigger places, especially lately. I don't know if you've noticed this
or not, but the prices toget into these places are going skyrocketing.
So it does help to be witha team and people that can help you
split that that cost. But there'sdefinitely a different feeling knowing that yet you

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do have, you know, asmall group of people just on the other
side of the door while you're doingit, a loan challenge versus actually being
alone, Right, it's it's definitely. I try not to think about it,
but you're absolutely right, it's it'snerve wracking. I guess one advantage
to doing it completely by yourself asyou can automatically eliminate any other people contaminating

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your stuff. Yes, there's nowhispering, there's no taco bell parting,
there's yeah, absolutely and absolutely,and that does make it difficult when you
have even just one other person inthe room with you and I'm like,
Okay, that sounded kind of likeyou, but I'm not sure if that
was you. You remember talking andit's just yes, But you know,

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it's so obviously you do a lotof the pay to play paces. Do
you ever do any residential like anybodyto reach out to you and say,
hey, can you come check outwhat's going on in my house? Yes?
Yes, I haven't done that manysince I've been here. I just
actually moved up to upstate New Yorkfrom Florida. I was doing a lot
of that in Florida. Haven't reallysunk in here to the point where I

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can get my feelers out and startlooking for places. However, everything up
here is super old and super hauntedanyway, it feels like, so I
don't think it would be an issue. But as I'm sure you know,
people are either for it or they'renot. So it's sort of a hard
subject to approach, Like, Iknow your house is haunted. Do just
let me end and I'll figure itout. You don't even have to be
here. But yeah, I havedone some of the residentials. We've done

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some semi private ones. We've doneprivate ones with people that want to talk
about it, and we've done oneswhere I've been allowed to film and put
them on the show. But Ihaven't really done much of that since I've
been been up here. It's beenmore more of actually the bigger name stuff
and collapsing since I've been up hereor so all right, now, now
you said, you know you're inupstate New York, so I have to

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ask, is the is the HinsdaleHouse on your bucket list while you're up
Absolutely you know it, you knowit. I haven't been able to get
in everybody else's been going. It'sI've heard I've heard some crazy shit about
that place, and uh, yes, yes, I have a wild story
to that that we can talk aboutoff off off camera that uh that involves

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me, but but I wasn't eventhere from another team that was there,
and it's it's it's a wild storyand he tripped me out. He tripped
me out when he told me aboutit. So yeah, uh, he
doesn't really like to really talk muchabout it because he was kind of like,
you know, I was kind oftripped out. So I talked.
I had him on my show,him and his partner that that he's with,

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and we kind of touch based onit when they were on the show,
But he was kind of still didn'treally want to talk much about it
because he was like, I don'treally understand what exactly what was going on,
So you know what, we cankind of touch based on that after
after the fact. So other thanso, other than doing a lot of
solo stuff, what what makes youdifferent than other investigators? Like, like

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what makes you like what makes youstand out in the crowded harror room as
as you could call it. Ah, that is a freaking fantastic question.
Jesus Um, dang, well,I think that is one is I'm a
girl, So not that there's notgirls in this field, but you know

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there tends to be not as manysay. It does seem to be a
little bit less. Um. Yeah, but I think it's great that there's
more and more fingals getting into it. So they are, they're jumping in,
and the social media platforms are bothhelping and hurting that cause. Um,
I think it's an excellent tool,educational tool and getting yourself out there.

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But there there everybody hits that lineman where it's just like, you
know, you have an opportunity toto get noticed, and unfortunately to do
that you have to start, youknow, faking your ship. So uh,
it's it's tough. It's hard,it's real hard. I've come to
that line many times, never crossedit, but I can't. I can't

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lie and say I haven't thought aboutit because it would be easy, you
know how easy it would be,right um oh man, especially if you're
along with the crew, you know, like oh you know at this at
this time, stamp free and whisperanyway. Um, but yeah, it's
uh, there are more females thatare coming on. Um, I just
hope that they they can find aplace. It's it's, uh, I'm

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just not easy for dudes either.I don't think I'm just going with the
with the girl aspect, but umjust being so low in general. And
I think that, um, Ithink that coming from from doing everything on
my own, uh and fighting myway through all of the usual like first
hunting stuff and uh, not waveringand building I've got a cool community,

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man, I know you do too. I've been sort of lurking in years,
but um, you sort of buildthis community that is just tailor made
everything that you're doing, and they'rejust so freaking supportive of everything. So
I think that the whole style ofnot I'm trying to come up with different

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questions and investigating with empathy and youknow, trying to get different answers even
if it doesn't mean anything. Likeyes, if you are at Gettysburg and
you have a soldier that says,you know, I I died on the
battlefield, let's say that's the EVP. But if you're at Gettysburg and you're

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like, you know what color shirtam I wearing? And very clearly it
says blue. Like sometimes that sortof communication that's not exactly like talking about
battle or war or the or youknow whatever, but you're very clearly having
an intelligent conversation with the spirit.I find that way more exciting sometimes than

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talking about the same stuff. Iactually call it my my Steaver Win approach,
where you know, sometimes you justgot to get excited about the little
stuff to get your audience excited aboutthe bigger stuff. Right, um,
And it's refreshing to them, youknow, because as you know, a
lot of times it's all the samestuff, and right there's just such a
much larger universe out there of thisresearch that we're all trying to do.

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So right, it's uh, Iguess that would be it. I don't
know, I'm a little bit wacky. That's there's your answer. There you
go. Now, like when weinvestigate, we we do ask some of
the typical questions, you know,how do you die, when did you
do? Stuff like that, becausewe all we always like to go in
blind, so we don't really knowmuch about any of us. So I
like to kind of like, okay, if they tell me they died in

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nineteen fifty five, and then findout, Okay, this person that I'm
talking to actually died in nineteen fiftyfive. It's like, Okay, that's
cool of shit. So but wealso, yes, yes, we also
kind of what's the word I'm lookingfor, but we used the environment we're
in and like, like last weekend, for instance, we was at a

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place that uh actually was originally builtas horse stables and I saw that and
uh but like, um, earlierin the evening we were doing my wife
was doing an ass this method sessionand it was legit talking about horses.

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Um, it was giving out numberswhen we were asking questions about the horses
income to find out when the originalowner died. It was almost like they
were having a horse auction right.Come to find out when the original owner
passed away, I guess like hisfamily auctioned off everything, the building,
the horses, he had left everything. And I was like, you know,

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none of us knew that. AndThurston, they're throwing out numbers and
wow. During that same session,it eventually said every single one of our
names there was. There was myself, my wife, my best friend,
his girlfriend, and my sister inlaw. UM. And eventually more or

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less told my best friend to comeup on the stage where my wife was
came up there. He's like,okay, I'm up here. What do
you want me to do? Andmy wife comes out and she goes sit
down. He's like, okay,I'm sitting down and it just went on
and on, and then it eventuallysaid his girlfriend's name, Ashley, and
she was like, do you wantto talk to me now? And I
think it said no or something andthen uh oh. Also his my best

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friend's son was there, Jacob,and I said, okay, you've said
a couple of names. Is that? Can you tell you know the rest
of the names in the in thein the room? First name it said
was a boy, and Jos goes, okay, there is a boy in
the room. What's his name?Almost on cue Jacob, Oh my god.
I was like, I was likeif Then I kind of took over.

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I'm like, okay, you've saidthree of our names. Can you
tell us the other three names?I was like, and I was like
that our names are right on ourshirt. Yeah, and then it goes
Kelly, which is my wife's name, and I was like god, and
then it eventually said my name.And then I said, okay, there's
one one lady left in the room. What is her name and it said
sister. Now she is my wife'ssister, and so it didn't actually say

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her name during that instance, butit said sister in the during the next
session where we heard that loud bangthat we put out, it actually did
say her name during that session.So it eventually said every one of our
names. Wow, and it wasit was pretty wild and it was a
it was way more active than Iwas thinking it was going to be.

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Wow, that's saying those are thelittle gold mine spots. That's that's incredible.
They literally are dying to talk likeit. It's beauty, that's beautiful.
So right before we got on,I was just kind of doing a
quick scroll it through your YouTube tubechannel and a couple of different things stood
out. So first off, let'slet's talk about Penhurst. Oh yes,

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yes, I've got plenty of penHurst flintage that I haven't edited yet because
who has time for that? Yes, right now, that's that's one of
those places that if you're an investigatorthat's actually in this for the love of
it, that that place has gotto be near the top of your bucket
list. My god, you know, it's it's up there on mine,

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and it's a place that I thatI hope to eventually get to. So
let's let's talk about a little bit. What what what you guys experience whenever
there? Oh man, right offthe bat, like they it's all blocked
off and gated of course no trespassing, so they have to lead you in.
And when they came down and openedthe gates and let us in,
which drove it's it's a quite adrive back there. Um. I was

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crying like I was legit that exciting. It was like I was fan girling,
like total fan girling. Um.You in front of these buildings and
it's just this sprawling campus of justhistory and brick and decay and oh my
god, oh it's so cool.Um. They have one of the main

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buildings, of course, set upfor the for the Haunted attraction. I
can get in that one and that'sfine. But really just looking at it,
it's, oh man, it's notmuch different than if it were abandoned
like they've done. They're they're keepingit up, of course, but it's
it's got that feel to it likeeverything's just falling in and you know,

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the paint is peeling, and that'ssort of a Tina you can't even pay
for and like the smells and andoh my god, it was amazing.
Um it was a pretty large group. It was the first tour of the
season. So that is something thatI will never ever have again, I'm
sure. Um. So we're like, sweet, you know, the spirits

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are going to be like, youknow, just itching to talk to us,
and they were, Um, itwas, oh my god. Things
didn't start happening till it got darkand we took the tour. It was
the first time there, me,my friend Shanny from Channy's Unexplanable Adventures and
Pale from Past Like Explorer. Wewere there with brother Frank. Um,

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Paranormal Watertown was there. I'm surethere's others that I'm forgetting. We made
it. We made a really sweetfriend there named Ravney. He's got his
own YouTube channel and he's there likeevery weekend. The spirits absolutely love him,
um and and interact with him.It's it's a very sweet story.
But um, hang on, I'vegot I've got a baby chicken that's screaming.

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I live on a farm. Um. So, yes, it went
dark. We split off into groupsand uh, you know, they basically
allow you free run, but there'salways somebody there. And this understandable is
so because the place is so massiveand it's very easy to get lost,
and it's very easy to hurt yourself. Um So, just seeing and being

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in a place that you I clearlyknow now that you have the feelings I
do about places like this, itwas just what is your mind? Like,
you're not ready, you don't haveenough batteries, you don't have enough
food and water, you don't haveenough energy, you don't have enough time
in the night, you don't haveenough money to come back. Like.
It's just all these feelings like andyou and and the thing that surprised me

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the most. Honestly, I wasprepared. Again, I'm not I'm not
gifted in that sense, but Ido feel an energy. I was expecting
the drain. I was expecting thesadness. I was expecting it's horrible stories.
Um as most asylums are from backin the day. They start off
to meanwhile they end up just torturingpeople. But um that's where I was

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expecting. And what we got wasan entire night of like playful, which
really surprised everybody in the Yeah.Yeah, it's hard to explain without seeing
it being there, I really hopeyou get to go to land. But
and I'm sure it's not every night'sthe same. But as we were there,
the entire it was just playful.It was never scary, it was

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never there were a few moments oflike, you know, I got grabbed
at one point, which ever wentand grabbed one other time. And it's
about nine confirmation I still could havelike bumped into something. I haven't decided
it yet, but I'm ninety fivepercent sure I was grabbed. Just we
were doing an SD session in theinfirmary at the nurses station, and there

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was just a whole slew of asI'm sure you know, like it comes
in waves sometimes, so it waslike dead and then all of a sudden
it was like, holy shit,what's going on? You don't know what
to do, where to go.So it was an the middle of that
um that I got grabbed, butum gosh, and it was just it

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totally blew my expectations out of thewater. And again I'm sitting here on
you know, six hours of footagethat I haven't even been able to go
through. I've made some shorts fromit, but you know, you just
want to do it justice and Idefinitely want to go back. I definitely
will be back. And again itwas just it wasn't they're doing such a

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good job over there with what littlebit they have, and and the night
we were there was freezing cold andthe porta Potti sucked. But that was
my only complaint. Like it was, it was awesome. It was so
cool, man, it was socool. Well, it's it's it's definitely
up there on my list, andit's it's a place I hope my team
can get to it at some point. And so again scroll and figure YouTube

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and something else. I called myU. I said, I tried to
contact Lizzie Borden but got something else. Now was this at the Lizzie house
or were you were somewhere else?I mean, let's let's talk about that.
Yeah. Yeah, so I wasparticipating on YouTube. Again. I

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know that there's people out there cringingwith the whole YouTube channel on paranormal thing,
but please, um, well,they like you, so they probably
are more open to that. Butbut I get it. I get it
with the whole with the whole YouTubething, I understand completely. But we
were doing at these challenges they werecalled the paragames, and it was put

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on by another channel Amy from whatthe paranormal and it was just all of
these people that were participating in justsmall paranormal challenges just to sort of break
this out and see who could whocould win. So this challenge was investigating
in contacting was important and seeing ifyou could get any pertinent information from the

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case or anything like that. Andit was not anywhere near the Lizzie Borden
house or or anything like that whatsoever. It was in a haunted location which
added to the creepy factor. Andthe fact that I was outside sitting near
a woodpile with an axe and therewas somebody screaming in the woods. That

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was all not planned and completely terrifying. There was a cat that showed up
at one point, like I wentinto a wormhole there, dude, that
it wasn't smart. It wasn't smartto do that by myself. But yeah,
yeah, no, I was usingI don't know how your people or

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you feel about apps like phone appsand using them to communicate with the paranormal.
I'm on the fence still. Iget really good responses from them,
but I still don't believe that they'rereal. Well, afro a list,
throw a list out there at you. When we were doing those ss Methode
sessions last week where we were givetingthe intelligent answers about horses and got my

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all of our names, we wereusing necrophonic. Yeah see see damn it.
See that's what I'm saying. Thatis what I'm saying. That's what
I'm talking about. Like there issome stuff that comes through that. Yes,
it's a word bank, Yes itcan probably technically listen to what you're
saying. I usually have len anairplane mode, like when my spirit app

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came through and said, uh,Lizzie Borden's girlfriend at the time, which
is a whole conspiracy theory of maybethat's why the parents were going wacko and
that's why she killed them. It'sa whole other left hand side there,
But um, it said her name, and I'm like, okay, um

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this yeah, okay, this isthis is crazy. And then it started
screaming in the forest and I'm like, Adam, I'm done. Yeah,
oh goodness, Yeah, I'd probablypissed a little if I heard some'm screaming
in the even I knew, evenif I knew like it was a Bobcat
or something. I'm like, okay, I'm done. It was probably a
fox, but yeah, it onlyscreamed at that time, and you're there

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by yourself in the dark. Yeah, that's enough for me. I don't
need to figure it out. Ifigured it out that I'm I'm a chicken,
and I'm leaving bye. All right. All right, Now to the
location that actually connected you and hthe historic Scott County Jail and Huntsville,
Tennessee. Now, this is probablymy absolute favor location. We've been there

(30:33):
twice. I've been there two orthree times just to walk through there in
the day, just to be there. And so how did you originally find
out about the Scott County Jail?Oh my god. Um well, if
I'm completely honest, I was bummingaround for things to do in March,
paranormal wise, and a lot ofthe places don't open, a lot of

(30:56):
the big places don't own Nursing Mountainand all that and until later. So
this was March, the middle ofMarch, and I'm like, you know
what is you know what is thisplace? This gonna be fun and it
looks super small, which is whatwhat Chris says. Everybody says it looks
small on the outside and and uhso I went to YouTube and I started

(31:18):
looking around. I'm like, there'snot a lot of stuff on this place
that I'm seeing. I'm like,this could be good or it could be
terrible. So, uh, Igrab gathered a group of friends and I
made the trip down. Some peoplemade the trip up. Some people were
already in Tennessee and I knew assoon as I pulled up that it was

(31:41):
gonna be good. And I,I don't know, just just the people,
uh, Miranda Chris that run itare just amazing. The history that's
they're still all of the Bloomin museum, all of the care. I don't
tell you all that, right,So honestly, I found it by accident,

(32:04):
looking for bigger places. Total accident. Had no idea what it was,
booked it anyway, I didn't care. So that's how I found it,
by total accident. Right. So, so they're they're giving you the
walk through, Christy giving you thewalkthrough, and you guys are in the
kitchen and she shows you a video. And as everybody listened to this episode,

(32:29):
they're probably tired of hearing me talkabout this, but you know,
it's it's hard enough to talk aboutbecause that their most compelling piece of evidence
that we've ever captured. So whatwas like, you're in this reaction once
she said here, check this out. This is something that happened here.
Holy shit, holy shit. Soright off the bat when you walk in,
the first thing she tells you,and I love this. I love

(32:50):
this about her and I love thisabout the place is that there's nothing evil
here. There's nothing demonic here,So don't start your ship right. I
love that because again running with youknow, and I've filmed with some of
these YouTubers that are a little bitover the top, and that's okay.
I still love them as people.I love what they're doing. They're still
getting people excited about the paranormal.I'm fine with it. Right up the
bat, there's nothing evil here,there's nothing demonic, there's nothing. Don't

(33:13):
even try. I'm like, yes, we're in the right place. So
for to have that feeling, thatfalse sense of security and knowing damn well
that this place is still super hauntedand then showing that evidence of the picture
flying off the freaking wall four feetdoing a flip and hearing you guys like
freak out, on. Oh mygod, it was. We all just

(33:35):
looked around like I thought we weresafe everywhere. You're always safe there,
I'm not, That's what I'm saying. But but and then to come to
talk to find out what that wasthe second time that happened, like that
part was left out. That partwas left out, so we had this
false sense of safety right saw thatvideo and then the entire rest of the

(33:58):
night, for the rest of theentire instigation, like we're all like,
we're all like like freaked out.Now we're like and like looking the check
in the corners and like walking reallyfast by the pictures so we don't get
slapped by one. Like it's crazy. It was God, that video.
I'm so again thank you for lettingme use that because of course, oh
my goodness, I cannot believe.I cannot believe, and I can't believe

(34:22):
it was a second time, Likethat's first time as gold, second time
as Diamonds. Man, he nailedit, nailed it, seem like I
said when it happened that first time, you know, we just caught the
audio of it, and uh,and we just kind of chalked it up
to I was like, well,you know, maybe somebody was in here

(34:43):
during the day doing a day tourand they were messing with it, and
maybe it wouldn't veil crowd on thewall very well and maybe eventually just kind
of gave, you know, cameloose and just fell right. So you
know, we were just like,oh, you know, maybe that's something.
Maybe it wasn't just be and seeit happened. We just heard it
and I was like, okay,whatever, And then when it actually we

(35:04):
actually seen it, and if itwasn't for that female in the hallway saying
help, you know, we neverwould have went out there were probably would
have just heard it again. Andthat entire night leading up to that event,
it was almost like the spirits thatwere toying with us, like like
we're building it up, you know, we're really gonna get you. And
because everything that happened, we werenot able to capture any of it on

(35:29):
video or audio because we would alwaysthe stuff would always happen right before we
started filming, when we walked intoa room, or right after we walked
out when we started stopped filming.The craziest one of the craziest things though,
is uh, we were upstairs inthe in the top sales, and

(35:49):
we had our d box sitting there, and Josh, he's he actually is
a corrections officer. I'm not.I don't can't can't figure why she keeps
saying but I am, but I'mnot. But he actually is. So
he'd brought some handcuffs with him andhe'd set them down in front of the
dye box. And we hadn't beenup there for probably ten minutes or so.
In the temperature on the dye boxread the same temperature the entire time

(36:14):
we were up there. It waslike sixty seven point eight or something.
He puts these cuffs in front ofit, and he happened to notice a
couple of seconds later was its attemptdropped to sixty six point six. And
I was like, okay, well, I'm not going to just jump to
the automatic demonic and evil stuff.I was like, that's weird. I

(36:35):
was like, but what are thechances of that happening? When we put
the cuffs down. As soon ashe picked him up, the temperature went
back up. Oh my god.So I went downstairs. Chris and Miranda
both were still there, and Iwas like, because it was their edi,
I was like, hey, isthis thing ever like malfunctioned here.
They're like, what do you mean? I was like, has it ever?
Just sorry, you're good, allright. I was like, has

(36:57):
it ever? Just has it everread this number here? And they're like,
nuts, never in the number here. I think it has at other
places, but never hear And Iwas like, that's okay. I was
just just wondering, and they gowhen did that happen? I was like,
literally right before I came down.Yeah. And they're like, well,
that's really wild because they're like,we're researching a story. We've just
seen it on Facebook pertaining to thatnumber. And I was and I was

(37:22):
like, no way, she goes, yeah, and she goes, and
that's things that happened here, Likeit tells you what's going on around you.
And we were using their obviulus lateron that night and we kept getting
we kept getting random stuff like theObvious likes to do. But then we
started some of the words. Itwas staying. I started reading this article

(37:45):
on the wall and I got tonotice and I was like, it said
that word, said this word saidthat word, and it wasn't like your
typical words right right, And I'mlike I looked over at Jos was like,
man, all these words are inthe article. He's like, well,
maybe they want us to read it. So he read the entire article

(38:05):
and it was it's just like Isaid, everything that was happening, it
was just And when we went backthat second time, it wouldn't obviously,
it wasn't adds active, and weweren't going in with those expectations of like,
Okay, this crazy shit's gonna happenagain. So we're just like,
if it happens, cool, Ifnot, that's cool too. But when

(38:25):
we did our ass assession in thathallway, it eventually came through and said
both of our names, like,okay, you remember us? And when
I asked, I was like,who who knocked the picture off? The
way, it end up giving usthe name. I can't remember the name,
but it gave us a name.And before we started that night,

(38:50):
I remember Chris telling us, hey, you know, play some some gospel
music. They seemed to respond toa little gospel music. Yeah. I'm
like, all right, I'll giveit a shot. So I turned on
some and probably thirty seconds in tothis song, I started getting dizzy,
started feeling Nausetrius. I'm like man, I was like, and like it.
I got said dizzy. I gotsaid dizzy to the point I dropped

(39:14):
down to my knees just to keepthem falling over. Oh shit. And
I was like, I was like, we gotta turn it off. And
turned it off. Waited a coupleof minutes. I was fine. I
was like, great, let's tryit again. Really, yeah, I
was perfectly fine. I'd been fineall night up until that point. Turned
it back on, the same thing, started getting dizzy, started getting naustrius.
It was like, I was like, we gotta, we gotta stop

(39:35):
this. I was like, Idon't know who's here right now, but
they clearly does not they don't likethis music or they don't want to hear
it right now. And so weturned it off and went downstairs, and
we left the camera rolling upstairs thatwe had set up in it. I
think it's filmed for about another tenminutes, just that hallway, and heard
a couple of a little like knocksand seeing a couple of questionable orbit We're

(40:00):
not real big in oars, butsometimes you're just like, I don't know,
and yeah, but yeah it's youknow, and now my mom wants
to go there that's awesome. She'slike, I want to go to this
jail you guys keep going to andI think we're gonna think we're gonna try
to go back maybe in October.That's awesome. So that is awesome.

(40:20):
They just they just acquired that secondproperty. That's a whole free town.
Yep. It's about thirty minutes awayin Rugby, Tennessee. Nice. And
it's so jealous. It's I'm like, I'm like, that's awesome because because
when we first went there, andwe went there of a second time,
I was bessaging Chris. I waslike, Hey, is there anywhere like
close by we could like just staythe night instead of having to drive almost

(40:42):
four hours back home. Yeah,and she's like, well, there is,
you know, one hotel here intown, but it's kind of uh.
She goes, you know, theygot you know, a bed and
breakfast about thirty minutes down the roadin Rugby, Tennessee. She goes,
you know, you could try tobook it. So she goes, it's
supposedly haunted, and and it wasI think that that weekend it was already
booked. So we just, uh, I can't remember before we drove back

(41:06):
home or what But I was like, man, I was like, I
really want to check out Rugby.And then when I seen their announcement,
I was like, oh shit,that's awesome. I was thinking, now
that's another place so I want todo. Yeah, and for the price
of it and you get four locations, yes, and I'm like, that's
awesome. Yeah. I'm hoping theydon't realize that they underprise that. Don't

(41:28):
don't tell them. Just kidding,just kidding. Girls, You're doing great,
keep up the good work. SoI haven't had a chance to watch
all of your video from Historic scotKenny Jeff, So what's some of the
stuff you guys experienced while you werethere? Oh my god, Well I'm
listening to your stories. It's interesting. Um. We got as she of

(41:52):
course does the tour, literally fiveseconds after after she talks about with a
whistle. Well what I what Ithink was a whistle. First, you
can't really know. We were doinga lights out quiet scenario on the third
floor in Big Roy's run and inthat first tiny I think she called it

(42:17):
a segregation some holding, I don'tknow. It's the smalls smallest cell first
away from Royce. So we hadone woman in each of the cells,
and then we had a very tallhe's got to be like six three,
I don't know. He's a talldude. He's not very intimidating, but
we let him believe that he wasfor this, this you know, lights

(42:39):
out scenario. And up until thatpoint, honestly had been pretty quiet.
And we did that. He lightsout. He walked up and down the
thing, make sure that we werein our cells. The door was shut
and locked, and we were gettingready for bed and I'm sitting there on
the bed and the loudest it soundedlike a knock. I don't know where

(43:00):
it came from. It could havebeen a pipe, I don't know.
It scared that the Jesus out ofme. I went running down the hall
towards Big Royd where he was.Everybody, of course, was in a
tizzy after that. And then anotherwave hit, so all of the rempods
started going off, all the catballs started going off like it was a
shit show. Sorry, oh I'mgood. So yeah, it was a
total shit show. It was rightabout midnight, and I remember Chris saying

(43:23):
that at the top of the hour, especially you'll hear footsteps. Now I
had set a cams all over theplace, which was awesome but also a
big mistake because it took me solong to review everything. And at that
same time, I captured footsteps comingdown the metal stairs, so it was
just outside the kitchen, right wherethe picture flew, looking at the metal

(43:44):
stairs to go up and down,and you could hear it literally sounds like
boots on metal, Like there's nomistaking it. This is not the toilet
flushing, This is not the heator the ac kicking on. It was
the heat at that time because itwas freaking freezing. Everybody was accounted for.
Like literally you can hear each footstep, which is pretty cool. Um

(44:06):
one of our she's not really weweren't really a team, but we were
there as a team. She's sangamazing grace, which literally brought the jail
to a complete stand skill. Everythingwent really quiet, everybody stopped in the
tracks, and my set a camin the kitchen and also pointed at Big

(44:27):
Roy caught the I'm also not biginto orbs, but as she's singing the
song in real time, I'm countingthem one, two, three, four,
and it's not doing it before orafter, like I had them up
there. The entire six or sevenhours when we were there. As she's
singing, you can hear her singing, I'm I'm counting them. They're following
from the ceiling, They're coming fromthe left, they're chasing each other,

(44:47):
they're they're they're strobing, they're youknow, they're weaving in and out of
the bars, a big roy cell. The cat balls are going like I
had postpones right now talking about it. Wow. And then after she stopped
singing, it goes dead again,like there's there's no other orbs that were
captured just about the entire time.So that was that was pretty cool.
Um, the last and most Istill can't ticking this out. So you

(45:13):
know upstairs in the girls the girl'sdorm fell area. I'm still kicking myself
for this, but I put astat at cam up there. I did
not use a night vision which I'mnever gonna forget what I can't. I
know, I know, I know, I'm an I've hard kind of talking
about this. Um, so thisis probably like the evidence that would have
made my entire career somehow. Idon't know what it was. It was

(45:39):
not a night vision camera. Itwas a regular camera pointed out the directly
out the window, which was theonly one that wasn't blocked. There is
this knocking, banging, thrashing sound, and it sort of sounds like this
is gonna be so dumb. Everybody'sgonna be like, of course it would,
it sounds like, but it soundslike somebody like there's a locked door
and they're shaking it trying to openit. Right, so you can hear

(46:01):
the shaking of the whatever this is. You can hear whatever's on it.
It kind of sounds like a lockbouncing off of it. And then you
can also hear the booming like ifyou were to hit metal like that sound
that echoes sound. So there's threedistinct sounds. Super loud. It's coming

(46:22):
right. It sounds like it's comingright from the camera. We were all
downstairs confirmed because about ten minutes earlier, we were all upstairs in the dark,
sitting there in the complete darkness,and heard the loudest sigh I've ever
heard, and it freaked the hellout of all of us. We all
went running downstairs to use the restroomafter that. So it was like it

(46:44):
was like and we were all like, what the book, So we all
are trying out we're all down there. I know this for a fact.
You can hear us downstairs review inthe evidence. We're not very quiet about
that, and it's just this somethingis trying to get in or trying to
get out of something. And thenat that exact time you can hear all
of us like erupt in, likecheering, because we actually caught it on

(47:07):
camera the side that just happened.And then there's an EVP super loud shut
up that came that came from Itwasn't that room. It sounded a little
bit furnly down the hallway, butit was a male telling us all to
shut up because we were here beingtoo loud. I brought it to Chris.
She said it could be the heater, which I guess it could be,

(47:28):
but I didn't capture it on anyof my other cameras. I had
a static caam in Big Roy onthe same floor. I had a static
caam in the kitchen area on onefloor down, and I had a static
caam near the bathroom Mary. Iknew the drunk takes, and it didn't
capture any sort of banging from theheater like it was only that camera.
So that sort of leaves me toleave that it wasn't the heater. But

(47:49):
again, it wasn't a night visioncamera, so nobody's ever gonna freaking know
so. But you'd have to thinkif you had that camera run for X
amount of hours and it was theheater, you would a cap for it
more than once, exactly exactly.And it was just that it is just
that time. That's that's I mean, that's regardless, just just audio of
it. That's still an awesome capture. And I'm right there in the same

(48:10):
boat with you. I did somethingat a location and I forgot the term
of night vision on and you know, I'm set up in the hallway of
this place doing a session my wifeand another teammates kind of you know,
about ten feet behind me, askingthe questions, and I start feeling something

(48:31):
rubbing me on my left arm.Oh shit, and I call it.
I was like, something's touching myarm. I mean, the right after
stay that, it started like pokingme in the ship, like poking me.
And I was like, something's pokingme in the arm, and like
this whole side of my body justgot freezing cold. And probably forty five
seconds after that on that camera,we call it probably the clearest EVP we've

(48:54):
ever captured, and we are youcan hear or one teammate he goes,
he's uh, he goes, areyou pop? And then my wife kind
of whispers, he goes, who'sPop and the right at the camera it
comes out and says, that's notmy name. And I'm like, and

(49:15):
so when I'm reviewing this stuff,I'm like, I totally forgot to turn
the night vision on. So allyou see in this video is like the
red glowing exit sign. I'm justlike, oh my god. I'm like
sitting here thinking if I would haveturned that on. I was like,
maybe I would have seen like anarm coming out of that room, like
touching me on my shoulder or something. I'm like, damn it. Man.

(49:36):
So never fails, dude, never. I know, I feel your
pain, but the Scott County jobsdon't. I don't think it ever disappoints.
So so in your opinion, you'vebeen doing this for a whole minute,
So what are your top three mosthaunted locases You've been to? Scott
kind of jail first and foremost.Um, And it's just again, I

(50:01):
don't have to explain it to you. It's just it's just different. Like
you could go to a hundred placesthat people claim or hunted that just aren't
Like I not that they're not,but you know, that's a whole nother
discussion. But yeah, that's goingto be number one. Number two,
of course is pen Hurst, andnumber three I think would have to be

(50:25):
Oh my god, if I onlyhad to pick three, I don't know.
There's this little place up here thatI found. It's a little abandoned
church and uh it's literally in themiddle of a cornfield but surrounding, which
obviously lends to the creepiness of beingin a cornfield. So you're like children
in the corn Okay, I'm gonnadie. But it's in this like stand

(50:50):
up trees, like you can't evensee. It just looks like a packed
trees. Come to find out there'slike this little one room church like hidden
in there. And it has beenthere for at least And I'm a master
gardener, so I can lend alittle bit of credibility to this the size
of the trees. It has beenthere untouched from the trees that are growing
around it for at least thirty yearsat least. Adding to that is the

(51:15):
fact that there's calendars inside from theseventies. I know it's more than thirty
years, but there's you know,and again that's not saying anything, but
it adds to the story, right, So we have these calendars that are
from the seventies, so hanging onthe wall barely trees that are growing up
around this church and are growing throughit. And across the street is a
cemetery, which adds to it aswell. The weird thing is is I

(51:37):
can't find any information on this churchat all. I can find information on
the cemetery, but not on thislittle, one room, beautiful brick place.
Anyway. I did this experiment lastyear in September. I believe I
went, I clawed my way inand left my I've been here twice before,

(52:00):
so I clawed my way in,left static cameras all around this one
room, pointing at different things,and then left. I just left him
there and I left. It wasabout four hours. I was going to
do overnight, but I didn't wantto go back in the I didn't want
to have to go back in thenighttime. So I came back about four
hours later, gathered my stuff,some really creepy shit happened when I was

(52:24):
Let me tell you what, thereare a very few places that creeped me
out. This is one of them. Like, this place gives me the
heavies, and I don't really knowwhy, because it's such a sweet little
place. Like the preacher's altar orwhatever, I don't know church terms,
where he stands, you know,the pulpit. That's it. Somebody has
been in there and left little giftsfrom the church, like this little broken

(52:45):
glass. There's a little piece ofa Bible. There's a little like somebody
who's been in there playing around,and I don't care it. It's still
creased me the hell out. Sothere's one way in, one way out
yet to crawl through the door.I'm grabbing my equipment, and I go
to grab a hey two meter offof a old piano that clearly does not
work anymore and probably hasn't for thirtyyears, and its spikes. I'm like,

(53:07):
Okay, that's weird. Make surethat I'm not on I don't have
anything on me that's weird. Iam holding a camera. The one camera
that's on the piano has already died. It died a long time ago.
So I back up and I'm like, okay, let's try that again.
So I have the camera back herenow and I go to reach for it.
Spikes again. I'm like, okay, second time, that's really weird.
So I start talking. I'm like, hey, you know, I'm

(53:27):
just here collecting make here, I'mout here and disrupt you. I'm very
sorry. Do you like did youplay this piano? Do you like music?
Spikes again, and I'm like,all the way to red not like
agreed, like we're talking all theway to Red Coom. I'm like,
holy shit, Okay, that's cool. So I find the one button that's
not sticky and broken and I hitit and it goes off, and I'm
like, okay, well that couldbe the reverberation of the keys. You

(53:50):
know, those things are sensitive.You just bump them, they go off.
But it keeps going off, andI'm like okay, So I pick
it up and I put it overhere, and it stops and I put
it down. Long story short,I have this whole conversation and play this
whole what I can with what keysare left with this spirit who's talking through
an sbox and through spirit talker andnecrophonics. At one point just telling me

(54:15):
how much she loves music, howmuch she loves this place, and then
she told me it's time to go, and I'm in danger, and then
the whole place, the whole placeshifted right, so I'm like, oh
fuck, it's time to go,right right. Um, But yeah,
that that whole thing in general,that even though it's not well known and
it's not really I wouldn't say it'slike uber haunted like stuff coming out of

(54:37):
the windows, but that's kind It'sdefinitely in my top three for sure.
All right. So as we kindof start to wrap this up, like,
what's what's your ultimate goal behind allof this? Just to have fun,
man, Just to get people excitedabout it that normally maybe wouldn't be
or maybe would be afraid of it, or or maybe that do enjoy the

(55:01):
usual ghost Hunter shows, which arefine. Again I'm not picking on any
of anybody, but maybe find somethingdifferent, you know, in a different
way to do things. So uh, yeah, it's just keep on doing
it, like yes, keep youhead down and keep it work, keep
meeting awesome people like you. Absolutelyright. So so what's next for Shoe?

(55:23):
What's next for you? What doyou what do you have coming up
in the next few months. Whatany investigations planned and any conventions you may
be attending. What's going on therest of the year. Oh my gosh,
I had a few lined up.Um, a few of those have
fell through, and that's okay aswell. I'm I'm at Chase Manner a
lot. There's a place, ahunted place up here called the Chase mannor

(55:45):
in on the New York sort ofmy weekend times. I do tours there.
I help out when it's needed,So they're a lot. Hey,
I've got some stuff that I can'tquite talk about yet. I've got no
Paraco in general. I wanted to. I wanted to hit a few.
I know there's one in Michigan.I believe it's this week actually. Um,

(56:07):
but no, nothing, nothing thatI can really talk about quite yet.
I gotcha. So if people wantto follow along with you and check
out your YouTube, how can peoplefollow along with you as as as you
go through all this paranormal journey aswe call it, very normal journey.
Yes, So the YouTube channel isjust Rochelle gee. I know it's super

(56:30):
original. Everybody's about these awesome names, like you guys, but no,
I just uh sounds like Michelle butwith an arm Rochelle G and just all
the usual socials. M I thinkFacebook is the same, and Instagram is
well, Instagram's abandoned reclamation. Butit's just easier to just go right through
YouTube. Just look it up,Chelle G. Easy easy to do,

(56:53):
all right, Well, everybody gocheck out our YouTube page. He's got
quite a following on their um andI think it's from what five thousand something
like that, yep, ye,five point three. Everybody's sore. So,
I mean, she's got some goodstuff on there. If she can
get that many people checking her stuffout, so so we'll give her.

(57:15):
So go subscribe to her page.Rochelle G on YouTube. Rochelle, I
want to thank you for coming onthe show today. Absolutely, thank you
so much for having me. Thiswas This is a lot of fun our
flies, man, I'm telling youwhat. I'm sure we could go on
for these right. It did wentby a pretty quick I didn't even realize
we doesn't been recording an hour.So but um again, everybody go check

(57:37):
her out on her YouTube page,subscribe to her. And again, this
was a bonus episode for kind ofthe kind of the wrap up season two,
and I'll be starting up season three. I'll be recording and about a
month at the end of June,I'll started recording season three and I got
some pretty some pretty rad people linedup already, so be sure to tune

(57:58):
into season three. Keep this intothe season one and two. I'm approaching
a year doing this at end ofJuly. I've been doing this a year,
so I've already banged through two seasons. I'll be in the middle of
season three when when the anniversary comesaround. So I didn't they didn't think
it would last this long. Ithought. I was like, oh,

(58:19):
I'll get a couple episodes in andnobody's going to listen to it, then
I'll just say, Okay, I'mdone. But you know, people keep
wanting to be on and people keepwatching and listening, so I'll just keep
doing it. So congratulations, that'sawesome. Hey, I appreciate it.
And uh, just since we arekind of wrapping this up in about three
weeks, we do have a biginvestigation coming up or anniversary as a team

(58:44):
is coming up as well. Atthe end of Junion will be officially a
team r KB Paranormal for three years, and we will be investigating the United
Methodist Village up in Illinois, andit's gonna be the largest location us as
a team as in investigated. Um. We are super excited about it.
It's like a four or five storytall building. It was an old like

(59:07):
nursing facility and it's it's huge andit looks creepy and we can't wait to
do it. Um. And atthe moment, I think it's the only
one we've got lined up. There'ssome other places we're looking into, but
that one's set in Stone. UM. And like I said, season three
of the show's coming up, andUh, it's gonna be awesome. He

(59:29):
has next so much fun. I'mexcited. It's it's it's we're looking forward
to it. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint. I don't think it will because it's
it's a place that's not really wellknown yet, so there's not a lot
of stuff about it yet. Yes, and so when you can get into
these places that aren't overly investigated yet, it's like they want to they want

(59:51):
to really talk to you. Sodo the paranormal industry right now, paranormal
tourism is what we're calling it now, is fire and there are all of
these are the places coming out well, not little bit big, but all
of these well you're not just ohmy god, that's gonna be so good,
right, everybody, I paradle Youtubertthat. Um, she's one of

(01:00:22):
my favorite locations and tops her withthe locations. She's good. So you
know you so for Chanell. Thankyou again,
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