Episode 17 Paranormal Roundtable

Season 2 finale and this is the paranormal roundtable with Kristen Amanda from the Paranorm Girl Podcast, Mr Jordan Cline from Fireside Paranormal Podcast, Steve and Megan from For-The-Boos podcast, and Gil from the Black Cat Report!!

Episode Transcript

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M h. Welcome everyone the LifeBeyond six Feats. I'm Damien from r

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k B Paranormal and this is theseason two finale of the show, and
I want to go ahead and apologizeeverybody. I have missed a few episodes.
I plan on having way more episodesthis season, but in the midst
of moving and buying a house andall that fun stuff, I've missed a
few episodes. So this is actuallythe season finale. We were cut short
a few episodes, but it's okaybecause I will be back for season three.

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And this is the Paranormal Roundtable.And this is the all podcast Paranormal
Roundtable. So with me, Ihave joining me Stephen Meghan from for the
Booze Podcast, Gil from The BlackCat Reports, Lou Jordan Klein from Fireside
Paranormal Podcast, and Miss Kristen Amandafrom the Paranormal Girl Podcast. Guys and

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gals, Welcome to the roundtable.Oh right, So, like I always
do, I'm just gonna dive rightinto this thing. And Jordan, you're
on my screen right now, soyou are going to be the first one
that gets to answer. Well,you're welcome for that. In your opinion,
what causes the haunting. Oh thatis so deep. Gosh, like,

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how much time do I have?Has my clock already started? You're
on the clock, sir? Okay? What causes it? Man? Okay?
So there's so much that goes intothis damien. I mean, I'm
a firm believer that the majority ofwhat we experience and unpopular opinion maybe,

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but it's residual. I don't thinkthere is as many intelligent hauntings out there
as we like to think. Wejust happen to be there at the right
place at the right time, andnot all residual hauntings are our result of
death right. You can have alocation that there was just high amounts of

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emotion and energy and things like thatthere, Like a prison. Let's say,
you know, somebody could be ina cell crying an upset every single
night, gets released. The nextnext guy comes in, and it's like,
oh my gosh, this this placeis haunted. I hear a guy
crying night when I'm asleep, right, you know, he's down in Florida,
like sipping on a little umbrella drink. So I think a lot of

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that plays into it. You know, I am an ordained minister, I
am a church boy, So Ido believe faith gets into there as well.
There are some dark things out there. I don't know what everybody's views
are on the panel, I knowsome of them, but you know,
if it's a dark and mysterious thing, I mean, the devil's job is

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to steal, kill and destroy,right, so cause confusion. There's a
lot of things out there that couldcause confusion and cause people to stray away
from the Lord. So I thinkthat's part of it too, all right,
That's that's that's a really good answer, man. So we're gonna go
with Megan, what is your faulton this? I think a lot of
it has to do with the landand what came before it and what energies

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previous lives leave behind. And Ithink people who die closer and closer to
our time feed off of that,and it causes underlying spirits that may not
be at rest to stay. AndI also believe a lot with Jordan that
a lot of it is residual,more residual hauntings than there are, you

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know, very intelligent hauntings, andyou may come across them, yes,
absolutely, But I agree with himright place, right time for a lot
of it, right Okay, Kristen, what about you? You know,
I think I think it's a lotof different things that are feeding into the
same. We perceive it in oneway, so we think it's one thing,

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but I think there's a lot ofdifferent things happening here, such as
residuals, such as intelligent hauntings.I think that goes into it. But
there's there's another thought, and Ithink it goes along with a little bit
what Jordan was saying. And it'sa theory I'm working on, so I
won't get too deeply into it,but I think that we have a lot

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more to do with what we areseeing and perceiving. Like we not to
say that we are the cause ofit, but I think we are playing
a part in these manifestations that weare seeing, right, I mean,
that's that makes pretty good sense too. So so Steve, we're gonna go
with you. Man, what doyou think? Well, first, I

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think you need to preheat your ovento three fifty. No, I'm just
kidding. What I believe. Ihave a couple I see, I bounce
back and forth. I think alot of it has I think it does
have to do with the way youdie, because if we base it on
like emotional stuff like the fear andpain or whatever, the just the passing
in general. I believe a lotof it is tied to emotional stuff.

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But I also kind of toy aroundwith this this idea of like maybe a
haunting is not a haunting in theway we think about it. Damon,
you might have been in the Twitterspace when I was talking about this,
But I have this like thing whereI look at it, like what if
what if we're seeing two different shadowsof people from a different time, almost
like a like a rip in time. Right, So what we perceive as

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a ghost sees us in their timelineand perceive us as a ghost. So
it's just like this back and forththing throughout time. Other than that,
I don't know what causes it.I would love to know. I mean,
everybody could have every theory they everwanted, but I don't think we're
ever really gonna know, not notnow, not anytime soon anyways. But
if I had to guess, Iwould say mostly emotional ties. Right all

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right? So Gil, what aboutyou, man? What do you think
about that student loan debt? Ithink is the main reason. Um,
God, you know this is notthis is not my specialty. So I'm
starting off on a great foot rightnow out of my wheelhouse. Um but
but I really love what what Kristenwas saying. And then I guess it

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kind of spurred some thoughts around.Um, I guess just the thoughts and
beliefs around. They're not being aseparation between time and space, right,
like everything being interconnected. And thisgoes back to Andrew. Is that right?
Is it? Andrew Jordan so badwith names, trying to read everybody's

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like zoom name on the screen andnobody like yeah. So I had a
really good friend Andrew who was talkingabout this one. No, no,
I really I don't know what toadd to that. Um. It could
be a lot of things, andit could be nothing, you know.

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It could be the human being justworking as an antenna picking up things again
across time and space, or itcould be something that's actually there. I
guess for me, I'm always hesitantto talk about like intense trauma in an
area and say that that's the causeof something. It's kind of like when
folks say, like, oh,that's built on an Indian burial ground.

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All of North America is built onan Indian burial girl, Like, there
are thousands of years of generations ofpeople who have lived and died, right,
So so I don't know if thatqualifies it. But but yeah,
I guess I don't know. Butwell ask me about aliens. Well,

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all five of you do do do? Make you all do make valid points?
And uh and I'm kind of ina mix between kind of all of
you. It's it's in the end, you really don't know, so and
until we're in that position and thenwe're gonna be dead and we're not gonna
really know that we're dead, Sowho knows? All Right, this kind

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of goes kind of dives into thereligious aspect of it. So Jordan,
we're gonna start with you should shouldparanormal investigators cross over spirits? Or sure
that would be left to someone inthe religious field. Uh So again I'm
gonna have a whole lot of unpopularopinions with both. So sorry, not
sorry, But if you think thatyou're crossing over spirits, does that mean

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you're stronger than Like, I don'tknow, God, Like, what is
you know, what is the point? What do you think you're doing that
Jesus is not doing right? Heneeds you right build down the street with
three teeth. Is the guy that'sgoing to be like the Almighty is calling

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him because he can't do it himself. He needs no So sorry, if
sorry, if you just walked intothat one, guys, that's fair.
No, you're good, You're good. Christ. What do you think?
I hope you're still talking? Ohsorry, I thought you stopped. Now
you're gonna go ahead, Kristin.Uh you know, I I personally do
think it is okay because I feellike if first of all, I don't

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necessarily come from a religious standpoint,that's not my foundation, that's not my
background. While I don't believe ina place as heaven and a place as
Hell, I do believe at thispoint in time in an afterlife, and
I think it's a lot more.We're a lot more energetically aligned and even
than we would perceive from a theologicalstandpoint. So coming from that standpoint,

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I don't want to get myself introuble. But coming from that standpoint,
I think if you are your heartis in the right place, your energy
is in the right place. You'redoing it out of love. You're trying
to help your fellow energetic being whomaybe is stuck, which I don't like
to say that because I don't necessarilybelieve that anybody can be stuck. I

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think you stick yourself and you havethe power to cross yourself over. But
I think understanding it's a little difficultwhen you're in that space. Maybe there
might be a reason that you're stillattached, or you feel like you're stuck,
or you don't no way out.But at the end of the day,
I think you have the ability todo that for yourself. And yes,

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if a fellow human being, aliving one coming from a good place,
wants to help you get there,I think it's fine. All right,
all right, So Gil, whatabout you man? Yes, um,
it's a tough and um. Soyou know, God gave us free
will, right at least like underthe Christian God. But at the same

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time, anytime things happen, wesay it's a part of God's plan.
So that's always the teeter totter,right. Um. I could see someone
making the argument around them going andreleasing a spirit as that was them acting
in God's will, right, Sowhy is that separate? You know,
somebody goes and saves a kid frombeing hit by a car and it's like,

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what do you really think God wasacting through? So it's no,
you know, like we would saythat that was that, we're lucky,
that we're grateful that were this,that were that, and there's a million
variables that built up towards that situation, right, So go either way.
We got complete free will, andyes we're out here solo. Nothing we

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do is actually what God you know, forced us to do, or we're
acting with moments of intervention. ButI don't know. I'm atheist, so
I swear all right, Steve,what about you, dude, that was
a great idea. I am too. I'm not. I'm not a very

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religious person, but I kind ofagree with a little bit from what everybody
said, like I don't feel likewe deserve to think that we would have
the power to cross somebody over.And in the same aspect of saying that,
like what Jordan said, like arewe to assumed that if that was
possible, we're more powerful than whatevercomes after us? It's it's I don't
know, I just I never lookedat things like we're not investigators or anything.

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Right. We do a podcast wherewe talk about haunted locations and how
we feel at the end, AndI guess the concept of helping a spirit
cross to the other side, it'snever really crossed my mind because this is
something we don't really we don't reallydiscuss very much. I guess yeah,
but I would I would have tosay that if it was a possibility,
I don't think we could actually doit. I don't think any of us

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could actually do it. I thinkonce you're over there, you chose to
stay or something kept you here,But that's on your end, that has
nothing to do with our end.Like maybe you could help a spirit along
somewhere, maybe in something that they'retrying to achieve. I'm not sure,
but I just don't think we aspeople would have the power to to make

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that happen, right, So whatdo you think, Megan? I do
come from a religious background, howeverI have straight over the years, But
I think that, like just howwith people, people in general vibe with
other living people their energies. Somepeople mix, some people don't, and

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I think different people being on aninvestigation and maybe you know, having Kristen
said that good intention that you know, just that that energy that they carry
could help them along. But likeSteven said, like I don't think anybody
could have the power to fully dothat, but I think you could assist

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them in doing it, and that'sonly if your energy's match. I would
assist you. I just want youto know that I would help you.
Thank you. I know you're gonnahaunt me if you die first, so
of course, and again I kindof I kind of agree kind of with
all of you. I'm I'm notreally religious person either, but me personally,

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I would leave it to a religiousperson. If someone said, hey,
can you help us cross this personover, I'm like, no,
but here, let me give youthis contact information to somebody. I know
that probably would be more helpful thanI could be. So I'd rather leave
it to to the people that knowwhat they're doing, in my opinion.
So all right, Gil, we'regonna kind of dip in your neck of
the woods for a minute. Bigfootis he real yesterday? And explain your

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answer? Yes, Why do youthink life? Life? Life is the
reason? Why? Now? Um? So, so, we had Scott
Thompkins on the show quite a quitea number of times. Um He's incredibly
talented um programmer and mapper. Heworks for a bunch of big companies,

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travels around map things out. That'shis job. And he never gave two
ships about Bigfoot, right, Buthe would be sent out by like oil
and gas companies to places out inthe middle of the middle of nowhere to
survey land and do you know,gis like take take um geographical data and
over and over again, different partsall throughout North America. People would start

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telling him the same stories. Theywould say things like, hey, so,
uh saw you were gonna go ahead up the hill there today.
I'm you're gonna want to watch outfor that neck of the woods over there.
We got kind of a thing thathangs out out there, or you
know, like whoa you know,they call it sasquatch and blah blah blah.
Like this just started coming up andit would be with families that lived
out the absolute middle of nowhere.So eventually this inspired him to start mapping

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this information. I mean, that'shis job. Started mapping it all out,
started collecting reports, and lo andbehold, he get enough data together,
patterns start to form, right,actual real patterns, not just one
off sightings and the proofs in thepudding. That's I mean, that's that's
like all there is to it.That and the fact that um, well,

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for instance, North America is theonly continent, right basically, if
you're looking at um latitude around theplanet, the only continent that doesn't have
apes, right, we should haveapes. And all of the folks that
lived here before Europeans came said therewere great apes, said there were things

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that looked at it, and it'dbe a totem pole with you know,
every other animal represented on the totempole is one hundred percent real. But
then there's Bigfoot, right, Andso I don't know, as a European
guy, I'm not really into questioningwhat native folks already discovered. That's I
guess that's my take on things,right, So Megan, what about you?

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Careful what you say? I dothink Bigfoot exists. I do um.
I think that there is such mysteryand lore behind it all because I
think that's the way Bigfoots want itto be. I think they're just big
foots out here rights and they justwant to be left alone. They could

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be, that could be. Whoare you, miss, Kristen Amanna,
What do you think, ma'am?I do? I think Bigfoot is real,
and I was only recently convinced ofit. I had a couple of
guests on the show, Tim andDana from the Bigfoot influencers, and they
really enlighten me to the world ofBigfoot and the type of research and study

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that's being done on this crypted.The accounts and stories that I've heard that
I've come across, most of themare very very compelling. You get these
accounts and stories from all over theworld. It's not an isolated thing.
Every every culture going back into historyseems to have some concept of this big

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bipedal perry ape like creature. Thescience that they are doing, like with
doctor Jeff Meldrum, they talk aboutthese dermal ridges like like the different features
of the actual footprint that they're gettingit that would be very very difficult to
like hoax. It's it's so likeprecise and they know now what to look

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for because it's repeated and over again. And then the recordings that they've gotten
of these sounds, these calls thewhistles um and they've studied these recordings and
found that there is Like people whoare experts in language and how language works,
they have found that there is actualum like what what you would find

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in any language like that that communicationthe different levels like um, like the
people who study whales like you kindof know that they're conversing with each other.
There's intelligence there, there's a backand forth, and they can also
see that with these recordings of theseBigfoot calls. So I just find all
of that very very compelling. Isay, yes, oh right, Steve,

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what about you, man, he'salready shaken. Said yes, yes,
yes, I believe in Bigfoot forsure. My family on my mom's
side is Native Americans, and likethey've been telling stories of sasquatches and Bigfoot
for a long time. But Idon't. We don't. We don't really
dive into that, so we don'tdo cryptids or anything. But all I'm

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gonna say is this, Okay,we do live in Florida, And if
the dude in the trailer down thestreet can cook math and get away from
the cops, then I Because thething that bothers me is when people say,
well, if he was real,they would know, they would have
discovered him by it. But theydiscover new things all the time that they

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didn't know existed. Big things,small things, microscopic things. Things are
getting discovered all the time. Thatwhole trope about, you know, we
would, we'd know he's here bynow. That doesn't make any sense because
if Bigfoot is anywhere near as intelligentas people believe him to be, he's
not just standing there waiting like,hey, come get me. He knows

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and he you know them, they'vebeen around a lot longer, and they
know where to go, they knowwhat to do, they know how to
stay out of sight. But yes, the only thing I really don't believe
in our puck legs. So ifwe get to that, don't ask me
whoa I'm originally from, Oh fromMassachusetts. I used to hang out,
you know, in Massisuia State Park. I'm from the Bridgewater Triangle. That's

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where I was. And let metell you something. Fuck what cheeses are
stupid? And the debate begins herewe go. Do not believe a little
troll man with canes walk through thewoods? Oh my goodness, all right,
Jordan, I already know what youranswer is gonna be. But I'm
gonna go ahead and jump to youanyway, Jordan, because Bigfoot exist ten

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years ago, if you would haveasked me, it would have been a
very hard no, a very hardno. But man, as I get
older, and I get I don'tknow, how do I say less stupid?
Uh? My? My more openminded on things and the stories that
I've heard from folks, um,you know, Kristen and I and I've
had a lot of conversations about bigfootand aliens and things like that. Uh,

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even where she lives, there's somuch forest, right, I've been
Washington State. That's you're you're inBigfoot country there, right, Yeah,
And just like Steven just said,uh, like there's so much out there
that we don't know about and we'rejust now finding. Right, but look

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at national parks, right, howmany people just go missing in a blink
of an eye in national parks andnever found? What else is there?
Do you know? I mean wedon't know there There are cults that live
in these parks, you know,that have been found, Like how did
they exist there for so long withoutanybody seeing them? Right? There's so

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much to and let's just say NorthAmerica. So much in North America that
that is is completely blind to us, and we don't know everything. Look
at all the animals you know thatwe have now that were One's cryptids,
you know, Kangaroo's guerrillas, youknow, all this stuff. They were
considered cryptids, you know, theyjust hadn't been found yet. So so

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I think Bigfoot now, um,not only would I say as real,
but I think the debate that I'veheard lately about whether or not you know,
we get it too. Is ita real animal or uh you know,
does it does it have a UFOconnotation around with it? Um?

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Is it a different dimensional being?I think these questions are a lot more
um fun to talk about because Idon't know if you know this, Damian,
but there's a lot of Bigfoot sightingsand and UFO sightings that happen at
the same time in the same areas. This is a topic of him being
an interdimensional being right where he kindof sits through space and time. But

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that's why I can't find him.Well, I guess I'm gonna be the
bigger skeptic of everybody because I'm thetype that I want to believe it,
but until I see some kind ofone hundred percent loud will proof, I'm
just think. I think, Idon't know. I'm like, is it
real? Is it not real?And that's going to lead me to my

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next question. If he does exist, why has there not been any kind
of one hundred percent legit file willproof, especially nowadays when everybody has a
cell phone on him, Like you'dhave to think at some point all these
people that claim they've seen him,one of those people would have to quickly
react and snap a good, nonblurry photograph. So that's kind of we're

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asking and on a st So whatdo you think, Why do you say?
Can I answer this first? Yeah? Go ahead, Damian? Do
you have kids? I do,okay, so you know I have four.
I have a ten year old andeight year old or five year old
and three year old, and theyhad their end of school dance last night,
and my three year old was dancingher hard out and I pulled my

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phone out and I tried for twentyminutes to take one picture. Right now.
This was me, at least ina control old environment, right where
I was clear headed. I justhad my phone just trying to take a
picture that one wasn't blurry, showeda face, showed something other than like
a finger like she was all overthe place. Right. So, if

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you are in the forest and thisgiant beast is coming at you and you
happen to be calm, cool andcollected enough to while it's running at you
trying to eat your face to sayhey, like hold stale real quick,
it doesn't happen. But like,look at all the pictures it too,
Like talk about UFOs right when you'reseeing it, when you're in all,
when you're in that that you knowspace and experience, and you're looking like

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nobody's like, hey, grab aphone. Like I've seen lights. I'm
not definitely not gonna say they're UFOsbecause I don't know, but I've seen
some lights out in the sky andI just like we'll sit and stare at
it, like what is that?What do you think it is? Like
there's no part of you. I'vetried to take pictures of the moon before
and it looks like crap. Solike, I know, if I see
a little light flight around, I'mnot gonna get a picture of it,
right, So, like I thinkwe get caught up in the moment and

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the the just being in that.Do I say vibe. I don't know.
I'm not with the lingo anymore,but it's definitely a vibe if you
run into big foot. I justneeded some clarification on that one. But
like, if you're in that moment, Like, I think the last thing

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you think about is should I grabmy phone? And if you do,
the likelihood of getting something worth anythingon a camera is slim even if you
did, Damian, I'm just gonnathrow this out there too. If somebody
came with a picture right now andsaid here's a picture of big foot,
bam and showed it to you,would you believe it? I don't know

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it would it? Just that's that'sjust where I stand on it, Like
I want to believe it's real,but at the same time, like I
haven't seen it or heard it formyself. I guess I guess that's kind
of how I feel about it.So, Kristen, what's your thoughts on
that? Well, I think he'snot disappearing into you know, wormholes or
anything like that. I think he'sfar less I know, I think he's

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far less paranormal than we would alot of people like to think. But
you know, it's not every dayfor most people. In fact, it's
not most of your days that you'regoing to find yourself running into any wild
animal. I lived in Montana foralmost fifteen years. I saw a bear
three times in fifteen years, andI was out in the woods. Okay,

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So that's not going to happen oftenunless you're you know, hunting them
or something like that, putting yourselfin that position to constantly, you know,
have the chance to see it.And on that note, we don't
often find the bodies. I mean, it's rare that you're going to stumble
across the body or the remains oflike a dead cougar out in the wild,
and you've got to think, well, you know, it's this vast

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expanse of wilderness. These populations ofthese animals are pretty small comparatively to like
the human pop They're pretty small animaland it's rare. I think that bigfoot
is intelligent, and I think theirnumbers are I think they're far more rare
than we are expecting or thinking thatthey should be, right, And I

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think they've been able to survive thislong at that smaller number number because they
are so intelligent. So yeah,they're they're out there, but yeah,
small numbers, and I think theyare doing something with the bodies. Possibly
they're they're either burying their own ordispatching of them in other ways. So

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you're never going to find that body. I know, I know scopts you
won't find it right all right,So Steve, what about you? I
agree with both of them. Iactually think that the small numbers are beneficial
to their survival and staying out ofthe way. And Jordan, your story
about you trying to take a pictureyour kid was like spot on, because
I'm gonna I'm in my if somebody'sout there wanted to take a picture of

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me, Nobody's got pictures of me, unless unless I put myself where I
wanted to have a picture taken.So I agree. If you're out in
the middle of the woods and bigfootsout there, I don't even think he
needs to be charging at you.I just think he needs to walk,
and you will be so shocked thefirst thing you think is going to be
I got to get out of here. He's gonna kill me. But I
have heard theories from people in podcastsand shows and stuff where they do believe

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they bury their own like because they'reso you know, advanced for animals,
I guess they're so intelligent that they'revery close to how we live in some
aspects. I mean, they're notbuying houses and paying mortgages, but they
I have heard that they there's atheory that they bury they're dead. But
if they've existed on this earth forI don't know, as long as we

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have, maybe longer, who knows. I think they already know how to,
you know, stay out of sightof people. I think they've been
It's been their whole thing since thecreation of everything. This is what they
do. So it doesn't bother methat nobody has a clear shot or anything
of a big Foot. I willstill believe it exists based solely on the

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fact that there are so many thingsthat are constantly being discovered that we once
considered to be cryptids or we justhad no knowledge of at all until it
became you know, everyday knowledge.And I think eventually big foot will be
all right, Gil, what aboutyou, dude? Yeah, Kristen did

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it again? That was I literallyhad a bear written down. But um,
yeah, we humans only think thatthey're quiet in the woods. Humans
are the loudest thing in the woodsto every other thing that is in the
woods. So there's that like mediaoff the back and like to piggyback on

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what Kristen was saying, right,like only seeing bear in like fifteen years,
there's a cadence, and there's apulse in the in the woods if
you spend enough time there, andits super easy to tell when something's wrong
or when something's off. And humanssuck at being discreet. Um, we
also stink to high hell, right, Um, So so there's that.

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I think a lot of times it'sjust you know, they can literally see
smell here is coming from mile awayand they're just like, I'm gonna go
over there, and they leave.Um. And in terms of bodies,
you know, again with bears,it almost never happens somebody comes across a
bear that naturally died. It's sorare to find just a dead bear in

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the woods. Like hunters never comeacross them basically unless you know they shot
them. So we have one examplethere. And then there's the there's the
reality of the fact that if Bigfootis real, it is obviously the apex
predator. Right, nothing is goingafter or it, nothing is messing with
it. And so frankly, likewhen it dies, it dies on its

(32:05):
terms, right, It's not justyou know, like whoa and like falls
down the side of a mountain,like it dies, Um, it's not
being attacked by a gang of chipmunks. It's not you know, like any
number of terrible things that might happenin the woods. Right. Um So
if it's if it's going through life, getting to old age or at least
conscious enough that it's like my healthis declining, it's time for me to

(32:29):
go. Right. If we areviewing get something as a species that is
close to or above or at parwith, like human intelligence, then it's
yeah, they're gonna have their ownrituals, they're gonna have their own process,
They're gonna have their own culture wherethey're like, well, this is
where I go when I die.So, you know, if anything,

(32:49):
I admire big Foot just in thefact that I'm like, yeah, you
should stay away from humans. WeYou've done a great job. M Yeah,
so I've been staying away from us. So I think they're pretty smart.
Yeah, I think that's I'm alsoexpecting some day to just come home
from work and like on CNN thereto be like we caught Bigfoot and there's
like one in a cage on thenews. I'm always like half hoping that

(33:13):
that's going to happen. Slash scared. All right, So Megan, what
about you? What do you thinkabout that. I don't actually think I
could add anything. I think everybodypretty much covered every aspect of seeing Bigfoot.
I think that, like the smallpopulation of Bigfoot, there's a very
small population of people who are doingthe scientific research and you know, keeping

(33:37):
up on you know, the differentchanges and the things that they see,
and the things that Bigfoot leaves behind, and the things that are constantly being
found. I think that is avery small culture of people as well.
So I don't think that there's thisvast knowledge of bigfoot stuff around. So
just like the Bigfoot is a youknow, very loose of that, the

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science behind it is also very elusive. All Right. I might have to
do a little bit more davin anddigging about this because I have a really
good friend of mine. He's like, man, you need to do some
research about this. He's like,because it's out there, and he's like,
and get get a big foot experton your show. He's like,
I think he would do. Ithink it would do wonders for you.
And I'm like, Bill, youknow, maybe I'll do something like that

(34:22):
for season three. So Gil,yes, aliens, are they really out
there? And explain your answer?Yeah, I think it would be complete
insanity to be where we're at inour knowledge of just how vast and how

(34:45):
expansive the universe is, and toreally think that we're the only like sentient,
intelligent life that's out there. Thatis insane to me. Like that
is that is folks in Europe sayingthere's nothing if you sail west, right,
Like that is the exact same mentality. And yeah, I guess other

(35:09):
than you know, just the tensof thousands of years of history of people
saying we come from the stars andYadA yadya all that, ignoring all the
history. I like to use themetaphor a lot of time. So when
we hear these really crazy encounters orstories and folks try to explain what they

(35:29):
witnessed, what they saw aliens literallywalking through walls, right, or having
these sounds and these emotions like putinto their head, right, I like
to say, like, well,let's go back to the eighteen hundreds New
York City, Manhattan, drop aLamborghini on the street, right, can

(35:52):
anybody would anybody be able to doliterally anything with that? Right? And
that's only two hundred years right,Okay, So just picture, I guess,
picture if there was planet exactly likeEarth, way, way, way
the hell out there, right,But they started their evolutionary process, or

(36:14):
it started its evolutionary process one hundredyears before us, two hundred years before
us. Literally, I'm not sayingtens of thousands or anything, just literally
like one hundred years. It's notmuch. And if you go back one
hundred years and hand somebody an iPhone, they're also going to be confused.
They're also going to be baffled byit. And every single day we're making

(36:36):
these massive breakthroughs. I think thatwe are a lot closer to the sci
fi esque critiques that we have ofpeople that say they saw things. We're
a lot closer to that technology thanwe like to believe at every single moment
in time. And again, it'sa numbers game. It just like that

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is insane to me. If thisis the only place where that up in
that life formed, that is nuts. And then you have the question of
did it happen a hundred years sooner? I don't think those are big jumps,
right, all right, We'll seewhat about you, man, what
do you think I believe in aliens? I mean, we're getting kind of
far away from the stuff that wecover but it's it's considered paranormal though I

(37:21):
know I agree with what he saidthough, Like it's it's hard to think
that we would be the only thingin this entire universe. It just doesn't
make any sense. It doesn't.You couldn't go on any land mass and
be that far away from some kindof civilization. I think we're probably closer
to like a big Foot than weare an alien personally. I think they're

(37:43):
pretty advanced. I think finding youknow, wall pictures of aliens years and
years before you know, modern times, and it's just everything. It's I
think the collective is there's there's justno way, there's no possible way there
couldn't be something out there. There'stoo much out there for us to believe
that there just isn't. I justcouldn't imagine. All right, Megan,

(38:06):
how do you feel? Do youfeel the same way I do? Yeah,
I think there's just this vast amountof space and time that is surround
just the planet Earth, and forthere not to be other things out there,
whether it's aliens or you know,space cryptids or anything like anything,
no one really knows. So ifyou know, we find cryptids on Earth,

(38:30):
what's to say, is out therein the advanced spacets love in the
universe, in the universe, pleasemake a shirt that just says space cryptids
on it, because I absolutely lovethat. Love with that that is awesome.

(38:50):
But yes, I agree, Kristen, what do you think? Uh?
You know what. I cannot disagreewith anything that Gil stay Eve Omegan
has said. I don't have muchto add to that. I am of
the belief that, yes, yes, it is all real. If you
would have asked me just a coupleof months ago, I would have said,

(39:12):
yes, UFOs and saucers. Idon't know what it is, but
yes, aliens. Oh, Idon't know. I got to look at
it. But as you know,I'm focused on it this season. So
just everything that I keep coming acrossit. It's every single subject that I
run up against where I might beon the fence about it. I learn
things that just open my eyes andopen my mind to the possibility, and

(39:39):
especially with a subject like aliens andjust the study of that anything extraterrestrial.
I really look to things like thegovernment involvement in something like this. It
is so widespread and it's like astory after story after account after account.
Why don't you want anybody to knowabout this? Why don't you want them

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to see the ship? Why don'tyou? Are you hiding bodies? What
is going on? And then Ialso look to the scientific inquiry and countless
scientists, countless very logical, groundedpeople devoting their time and devoting their life

(40:21):
and their energy into the subject becausethey were compelled. So if they are,
I totally am down. Yes,no, right Jordan, what do
you think? Dude? Oh yeah, I love everything else. Not only
do I believe you, but Ialso want the space scripted shirt if y'all

(40:45):
put that together. Two orders goingon needs to happen. Man, uh
no, that's really cool. Butyeah, the universe is so big,
it is it is insane to thinkthat we are the only thing out there.
Right. Um. You know,hats off to kristin her Siri or
her season is all about UFOs andaliens um this season, which is really

(41:08):
nice. I'm loving listening to it. Um. I think a fun debate
now, m with with the alienthing that that folks are talking about.
Like, I think it's understandable thatthey're out there, Like everybody understands that
they're out there, right, I'veheard some really cool theories about that they're
here, like UFOs and things likethat. All the the sightings that we're

(41:31):
seeing are actually coming from Earth.They're coming out of the water, they're
going into land masses. I hada really cool show with a Barry Fitzgerald.
I'm not sure if you know whohe is. He was with that
Ghost Hunter's International, but he isdoing a lot of studying right now on
UFOs and the whole phenomena you knowthat goes along with it, and really

(41:52):
really cool theories that he has umyou know, based around it. I
also heard a really cool one.I don't know if anybody's into like the
Greek gods and things like that thatall tie into, you know, could
they be aliens, you know,that came to Earth and just were worshiped
and things like. I think it'sreally neat, But yeah, totally on

(42:12):
board with the UFOs and aliens.Well, I'm more of an alien believer
than I am a big foot believer, So I'm with all of you guys.
There's no way that in this entireuniverse we're the only living creatures out
there. And whether the Little GreenMen or pished something that looks exactly like
this. I don't know that,so, but I believe more in aliens
than I do in Bigfoot and soand Kristen, you actually kind of touched

(42:37):
on my next question about the governmentofficials say aliens do exist one percent.
We know they exists, we've seenproof, and people think the government is
covering up of their existence. Whydo you think they're doing that, Kristen.
We'll start with control, Okay,control absolutely, if you if if

(43:00):
people realize there's so many aspects tothe control, I think like, if
we're you know, if this isthe conspiracy, we want to go there.
Um yeah, I think that onceyou lose, let me back up.
So they they would literally if ifit came you know, if if
it came out tomorrow that hey,Roswell was real. Aliens are real UFOs.

(43:23):
They've they've always been there. You'renot crazy. There's no cooks out
there. We were lying. Boy, would they be in a lot of
trouble. They would be in alot of trouble. But yeah, I
think they've kept it this way socovert and under wraps for so long.
Fear mass hysteria, people not solelyrelying on them, on the government,

(43:47):
on the powers that be because ifyou knew that aliens were real one tomorrow,
like how much how much of thatfaith that you put in your government
and the system right now would youtake back? Like would you still be
able to carry on with your dayand go to work and be a you
know, productive citizen just like normal. No, if everything would change everything

(44:13):
and they would lose that control,that's what it comes down to, all
right, Jordan, what do youthink, Oh, it's definitely control.
I used to think that one daywe would have full disclosure and then you
know, everybody went nuts over toiletpaper when COVID happened, and I realized,

(44:35):
like, we're not ready for anythingreal, Like like if toilet papers
the thing that's bringing us down,you know, if they said, hey,
by the way, you know,aliens are here. M a side
note to that, like that's kindof being funny. But I think here
lately, I think there's been enoughsightings of UFOs that people it's hard for

(44:57):
them to refuse. And that's whywe have so many Senate hearings and things
like that now, because you knowit's coming from reputable people. You know,
It's not like me and Kristen goingup to the government and saying,
hey, you know we saw aUFO. Right, it's you know,
not damon beating the door down likeI got abducted last night. Right,

(45:20):
These are these are like military pilotslike, hey, we saw something and
needing to be debriefed. We haveastronauts that are coming out and saying they've
seen something so and they're vocal aboutit publicly. So there's been more and
more of that happening, and Ithink that's what's causing these debates in the
Senate now. And hopefully, Imean, will they ever really agree to
it? You know, they're well, it's something we'll figure it out,

(45:43):
you know, but but you know, maybe one day we will actually hear
it going on, right, right, Gil, what do you think?
Man? I am I'm overwhelmed withwhat I should respond with. First?
All right, So, shortly afterthe end of World War two, just
at the start of the Cold War, the US government launched Project Projects Sign,

(46:08):
Right, so we had Project Sign, then Project Grudge, then we
had Project Bluebook, which people willremember they launched Projects Signed because of how
many sightings people were starting to have. The US was building or pointing it's
pretty existing propaganda machine towards looking outfor the reds, right, so like
keep your eyes in the skies,like people were forming little community groups or

(46:30):
they would just go out and theywould keep an eye out and they would
call into the Air Force base ifthey saw anything. These were all over
the country. Well, what startedto happen was they got too many settings,
They had too many calls. Theyliterally there would be mass there.
It was mass hysteria. Again,I'm stumbling over my words because I'm like,

(46:50):
where the hell do I go.I've read so many FOYAD like CIA
documents like on this time period.But yeah, the Air Force bases were
getting overwhelmed with calls when there wouldbe sidings, right, because people were
intentionally looking up everybody in town wouldcall it. We got to remember that
this was back in the day wheneverything was landlines, so phones could literally

(47:12):
jam, right, Like, nobodycould get in, nobody could contact the
base. And that goes for otherbranches of the military trying to contact an
Air Force base. That's a hugeissue if the Russians actually were going to
attack, right, So they eventuallyconcluded that, well, we can't have
this happening. We don't know whatthis is actually signed just straight up said

(47:37):
we think that they're aliens. Theyhad all this math and everything behind it,
but ignore that that we think thatthey're aliens, were certain that they're
visiting from other planets, YadA,YadA, YadA. Well, they basically
fired all those folks and spread themall around and then they started Project Grudge,
which has the name gives it awaya little bit grudge. The whole

(47:59):
point of Rudge was to get thepublic to think that anybody that saw UFOs
was a quack where they were drunkor whatever. They wanted to discredit and
disarm people's interest in it, becausethere was a period of time with mass
interest in it, and it wasstrictly at first, strictly out of national
security reasons. You know, theystraight up say, we don't know if

(48:22):
the Russians would fake a UFO inorder to jam our lines to then actually
attack us, or if they coulduse this as a cover to attack us.
Said over and over and over again. Yeah, and then shit just
spirals off from there. But thisis a long standing tradition within the US
government. That's what I'm trying tosay. Like, there's so much history

(48:44):
in thousands of pages where you canjust read line by line of them saying
Yep, this shit's real, andthen somebody else is responding, well,
we can't have that. Let's getwho is at Philip class like on this
to start debunking them, like itgoes on and on. But um,
yeah, it is orchestrated. Thereis a conspiracy. But I also do

(49:06):
believe that they stopped looking into this. And I'm sorry, I'm going on
forever. This is my big loveright here. Um. I think what
happened, honestly, was they thegovernment faced something that they were just like,
what the fuck Like, They couldn'tunderstand it, They couldn't comprehend it,
They had no way to manage itor deal with it. It was

(49:27):
outset of their control, and sothey started to focus on what was within
their control, which is other humanbeings. And until they feel like they
have an ace in the hole,they're not going to say shit. That's
honestly what I feel. All right. I loved every second of that.
You are so well versed, SoSteve Megan, what about you, guys?

(49:52):
What do you think? I mean? I think for me at least,
like we don't really we don't reallytalk about this, but I think
everybody else kind of said it it'sbetween control and people can't handle it.
And I mean there's nothing really herethat anybody said that I would disagree with
at all. Yeah, And theonly other thing I'd ad is like it
there have been like a deal forsome kind of like because where was all

(50:13):
this technology coming out long ago?You know, so maybe they was in
their best interest to collectively keep thisyou know, technology and feed it out
to us. But other than that, yeah, I think I would just
believe it's a control and we probablyall cannot know about it at the same
time or we will die. Idefinitely have not read any CIA documents or

(50:38):
such things were from Florida or goforward slash Um. I think it's just
foya, but you can go totheir website, go to their website,
go to the CIA's website everybody.But yeah, I definitely think it's it's
more leaning towards mass hysteria things likethat, because you know, like the

(51:01):
toilet paper thing, like people losttheir minds everyone. It would be pure
and absolute panic where I don't know, are they still using people are wiping
like madmen right now? All right, So of the three things we've talked
about ghosts, big foots, andaliens. Of those three, which one

(51:25):
do you feel one hundred percent withoutquestion exists? And why Jordan will spout
with you like one like you canonly pick one? Only pick one.
It's the hill you'll die on,man, Jesus Damien. I believe in

(51:49):
them all, um. I meanI started out as a ghost hunter,
right, so you know that's whereI cut my teeth. So I'll say,
you know, but see then,because like what our ghosts? Right?
Because every single one of us hada different idea of what that is?
Is that real? Is that something? Yeah? Something's that? What

(52:13):
if it's all one phenomena? Ifyou never know, no, believe in
that? There you go? Doesthat work? Does that answering? I
want to hear Gil. I've agreedwith most of what Gill said. What
what's go ahead? Yeah? Whatwhat? What? What's what's your thought

(52:35):
process? Gi? I mean obviouslyit's beyond debate. Um. The numbers
are in the proof is there?The government's admitting to it. It's pug
Watches number because sometimes bigfoot are short. That's all I'm gonna say. Okay,

(53:01):
those bigfoot have dwarfism. It's amedical condition, and you need to
stop calling them pug watches. It'svery rude. Um should be ashamed.
One hundred percent aliens like I.And that's not to say that I believe
every claim about aliens right or orany understanding of their motivations. But do

(53:22):
they exist? Yeah? I thinkthat's pretty one hundred percent safe to say
unless this is all some fucked upversion of the sixth sense, and actually
we're dead. All of us aredead, and all of our interactions with
all this other shit is stuff that'salive, um, which could be fun
to think about, but actually no, that's my new belief. So there's

(53:42):
your answer, David Megan. Whatabout you, guys? Of the three?
What do you think exists? Actuallyexists? Um? I I have
had ghostly encounters and ghostly experiences sinceI was about eight years old, and
I have had to be talked intoand learn things about Bigfoot and aliens to

(54:05):
be on board with those things.So I'm I'm definitely gonna have to go
with the paranormal for myself, justbecause I've always known, because I have
always had those experiences with spirits andthings like that. So I think that's
my take on that I'm gonna saythe same, the more of the spirit
side of paranormal. I believe inall of them. But if I have

(54:28):
to go on things that I believethat I've seen firsthand, I believe in
aliens. I can't ever say I'veseen something firsthand. I also very much
believe in Bigfoot. Also cannot saythat I've seen in firsthand. But I've
had, you know, spirit paranormalexperiences myself, or what I believe them
to be. So that's the oneI would have to go with. Kristen,

(54:52):
what about you? This is suchan unfair question, Damian. It
is it is we can say allof them. I know know what I'm
with Jordan there, like, Ican't just pick one, like even if
I had to rank them, it'sso difficult. Um, you're forcing my
hand here. No, you knowwhat, we're in a simulation. I

(55:12):
believe that. I believe that somuch right now, because I do think
it's all connected. Baby, theseare all just characters and nip or whatever
they're called. Um, but forcingmy hand here. If I had to
had to had say one thing,it is, it's going to have to
be the ghosts, the paranormal ghosts, because life after death, talk of

(55:32):
the afterlife, theories of consciousness,beyond existing, beyond death. That is
where my heart lies. That ismy passion. I love to talk about
that, and I do believe thatis all right now, can anybody guess
my answer? I think I know. Yeah, I think it's the only

(55:53):
thing we've really talked about. Obviouslyhuge after love. We're not allowed to
say cryptic right now this I've onlygot a couple more questions before we wrap
this, So this next one's justkind of a stilly question, and I

(56:15):
just wanted to do something kind offun to kind of wrap things up now.
I don't know how many of youknow that my absolute favorite film of
all time is Ghostbusters? Does anybodyknow that? I can see that?
Okay, I could see that.I mean I know the movie. Yes,
So, like I said, that'smy absolute favorite film of all time.
So obviously in that movie they captureand contain spirits. Do you think

(56:39):
that will ever come to fruition?And why would you think that? Yes?
Or no? Spirit boxes? No, he means in the like ectobox
plasma box with I know, butbut spirit box is already a thing.
I'm talking more like a long lineof how they do it in Ghostbusters,

(57:00):
just like straight up like grabbing oneout of the air with the USB,
like damn, because look at thetechnology that we have. It's like,
how could you not It's some I'mnot saying that whatever happened, but it's
one of those things that how dowe know what couldn't happen? I mean,
anything can happen anything. You know, I could wake up and be

(57:22):
six foot tall tomorrow, but it'sprobably not gonna happen. Should I'll just
keep talking. I'm already talking.That's what I do. I could see
at some point in time possibly happening, but I don't think it's going to
be as cut and dry as likehow you just trap a person. I

(57:43):
don't know. I think that's gonnabe one of them weird things that's going
to have to happen over time.And if it happens, it happens.
But I wouldn't go where they would. I know people have made claims that
they have these because I watched somethingone time. Oh my god, I
know it. You know, theytry to sell it, but it was
just it was just ridiculous. Butwho knows. I mean, with technology

(58:06):
advancement, and stuff that who knowswhat's going to be possible, But you
know, I can't. We justlet them be free. I want to
believe that, you know, ghostsand spirits, whether they may be,
you know, just a repetitive thing, or they are intelligent or but they
are still their own entity and theirown being, and we just kind of

(58:30):
need to let them be. Like, you can go talk to them,
that's fine. How mad would yoube if you died and somebody trapped you
inside of a little box? Wouldso mad? So mad? I finally
get free, Rome, I cango watch you take a shower and stuff.
I'm not getting Kristen, what doyou think? Oh? Well,
well, I think you could beattached to or want to stay around a

(58:55):
physical box. I don't think limitless, energetic, vibrational being could be entrapped
inside of a physical thing, becauseI just don't think I'm theorizing, but
I don't think it works that way. That being said, you jogged a
memory for mete Um. I rememberthis guest on art Bell years and years

(59:19):
ago? Do you remember this?Yes? Things, yeah, Scott,
damn it. Yes. I waslike, oh my gosh, I can't
remember. He said, No,I can't remember the whole thing, but
it reminded me. I was like, this guy was like talking about he
had he was like talking to Arton the phone, like he was like,
yeah, he's like in the back, out of the back, and
it's like in his ghost box.Like I don't know he was he was

(59:43):
keeping that poor ghost back there.I don't know whatever happened. So you
you go, gall you can tellus. Somebody holds old Coast to Coast
episode with the Art Bell. Ithink I listened to it like three weeks
ago. Four weeks ago, somebodyclaimed you have t apped a spirit in
a room in their house with likedo you know those um, I don't

(01:00:06):
know. You see really cheap adsfor him like all over the place,
but those things that you plug intothe wall and they're supposed to keep cockroaches
and like rats and like every othertype of bug away. So like,
why do you spend money on youknow, past control us? Through some
series of events, this guy basicallyended up, according to him, trapping

(01:00:27):
a ghost in a room with thoseand and so there's like there is a
three hour episode out there of Coastto Coast where they're just like, well,
how are you going to transport.They're like, how do you unplug
it? Can you open your door? Are you just not using a room

(01:00:47):
in your house? Like? Andhe's like, that's what it was.
He sent a cat in there.He started sending it his pets into the
room to see what would happen.It was like a really pissed So we
already have the technology, Damien,That's what I'm trying to say. Who

(01:01:09):
knew? Right? And I don'tknow if anybody seems a little guest appearance
here. There was our newly adopteddog, Meo, so she decided to
come in and make her first appearance. So Jordan, what's your thoughts on
that? Man? Oh? Well, I mean how can you do that?

(01:01:29):
Okay, So let's say let's let'ssay that spirits have an energy,
right. Energy can't be created ordestroyed, just change form, right?
So I mean, could we findout, like we as a collective,
not we as in US. Uh, could we find out what type of

(01:01:50):
energy or what frequency that energy isand change its form to something else?
Uh? And trap that science?But wanted to I pretty much just quoted
Artbeller try to the episode. Idid want to throw out there that um

(01:02:14):
almost every culture that believes in someform of an afterlife, right, um
has some process um, some beliefsome something wrapped up around um possessions,
right around hauntings um, and aroundcursed objects, right and so again,
going back to like spear boxes andstuff. I think the technology is already

(01:02:37):
there, right Like, I thinkit's already been figured out a million times
in a million different ways, um, whether or not. You know,
it's kind of like every every officiallike Catholic Church has a piece of a
saint, you know, sitting init. Um. Maybe it's some system
like that. Maybe we need toget a little piece of wood from this
whole shebanga bang over here and putit in a nice little fancy uh you

(01:02:59):
know I possession box by Apple andlike throw it out there and grab the
spirit. But it still needs tohave whatever type of spiritual charge to it
to do it. Um. ButI feel like we already got a system
down. Isn't there? Isn't theresomething? Is it? The Divi divickbox?
Ye? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes you could trap

(01:03:20):
a demon in a box or something. Jewish. Wasn't the original divotbox thing
only supposed to be like twelve orthirteen specific boxes, and now it turned
out that there's like three hundred andfifty thousand of them for sale. I
mean, if you're going to putsomething on eBay, it might as well
be that a million people. WhenI buy demons, I always go to

(01:03:42):
eBay. Where do you guys go? I love? I love when they
sell the haunted dolls. It's justlike a regular doll with like gray paint
on its face. Yeah. Letme let me ask something like, do
you guys believe that spirit has becomeattached to items? So wouldn't that be
kind of like almost like your ghosttrap? Right there is just to possess

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that item, you'd have to keepit on that item. Though you buy
so much stuff from the thrift stores, I'm always afraid that somebody's going to
come back and I buy that VanHanlin record or something. Antique stores have
to be the most dangerous places spirituallyyou can possibly get, right, I'm
saying. Alright, So final question, This isn't really like a debatable question.

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It's just kind of disipline is perfun And I actually kind of stole
it from Kristen when I was onher show a while back, but twisted
it a little bit. So you'rea ghost, who do you haunt in
your personal life? And what celebritywould you haunt? Christ And since this
is kind of your thing, we'regonna go with you. First, I

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haunt in my personal life? Andwhich celebrity do I haunt? Okay?
If if I'm haunting to like teacha lesson or to scare somebody, Um,
I would haunt my ex boss ata feed store in New Orleans because
he was the worst, just theworst. He needs to apologize. Um,

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haunting a celebrity this, I wouldn'ttry to be scary about it.
But like Pascal Pedro, Pascal ismy jam right now, and I would
I would be around him, likeyou know, twenty fours. I would
be like, hey, I'm justgonna say here. I'll be quiet,
I won't do anything. I stillsay here. Right. That's my answer,
all right, Megan, what aboutyou? Well, I think we

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uh throughout this show right here haveanswered that question. For who Steven and
I would haunt each other in personallives for sure? Um. And for
celebrity, oh, I don't know, I don't know. Maybe I'd have

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to say Bradley Cooper, oh Man, Jessica just that's that's my reasoning.
What about you to I mean Iwould. I've already said it once earlier.
I'm haunting her. I don't knowthat I'm actually gonna leave. I
might haunt my kids too, justso they I can yell at them and

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they don't because it would be funto watch them get scared. As far
as celebrities, I don't think Iwould. Honestly, I would probably be
the kind of ghost I just Ihaunt my family all the time. That's
it. I don't have a celebrityyou know, I'll go check out Scarlett
Johansson to take a shower too.We'll do that. Yeah, right,

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all right, Gil, what aboutyou, dude? I don't know who
I would haunt, like personally,personally, but celebrity. Right. I'm
not just trying to dodge the question. I guess on both ends. I
would haunt Snoop dog Oh, becausehe's just He's just going around the world,
just do win shit, having agreat time, and like no one

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would believe him. No one wouldhave believed Gil. If you die,
I'm getting Luigi board and you're gonnatell me if there's something going on between
him and Martha the secrets he does. All right, So Jordan, what
about you, dude? Personal lifewould be my wife because I'd want to

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be there, you know, wifeand kids. Right, celebrity Jessica Bill.
I like that. That's a goodone too. Just oh right,
Well, ladies and gentlemen, Ireally appreciate you guys coming on to join
our season finale here on Life Beyondsix Feet. It was fun, it

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was very informative. Um, you'vekind of opened my eyes a little bit
on big Foot. Not not notenough, not not enough to say I'm
a one hundred percent believer, butit has got the wheels turning up and
up in the old brain. Soall right, everybody. I want to
thank Kristin Amanda from the Paranormal Podcast, Mister Jordan Klein from the Fireside Paranormal

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podcast, Somebody's Knocking on the Door, mister Gill for the Black Cat Reports,
and Stephen Began from for the BoozePodcast. Thank each and every one
of you guys. Everybody go checkout their podcast if you haven't already,
give them all the follow, shawthem love because they're all amazing, great
people. They have great, amazingpodcasts and I've been on their shows,
and they've all been on mine.So we got a big, big group

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of podcast friends going here. Guys. So again, this was season two
finale. Stick around for season threebecause I've already got quite a few interesting
gas lined up, so just tostay tuned for that in Season three is
just around the corner, maybe abouta month away, so it's not gonna
be long. So again, thankevery one of you, guys, Thank

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you, thank you, Tomn absolutelycongratulations on season two. By the Yama
pictures of jests to beal now I'llbe back. Oh that's good stuff for
definitely. I need to know howshe are we with still recording it's a

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intro season three. I'm gonna golook at Jessica. Oh goodness recording.
It's still recording that it says itonly Hey, I don't cut nothing out,

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so you know it'll be fun.It'll be a fun way to end
the season. Why I stopped talking? All right? Guess well again,
thank you all so much, anduh we'll catch everybody next time. See
you all in season three. Thankyou, have a good one. See
you in the in the Golden,in the due