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July 2, 2023 • 37 mins
In this episode we chat with Mr Brandon Alvis and we chat Ghost Hunters, Haunted Discoveries and more!!
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Welcome everyone to Life Beyond six feats. I'm Damien from r KB Paranormal,
joined again by my host Kelly Schaferfrom K two Paranormal Research. Kelly,
welcome back. Thank you actually cameback? You did? You did?
I was? I was. Iwas kind of wondering if we'd come back
after episode one. So this isa very exciting episode. Um. I

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booked this guest probably a few monthsago and and and back when we were
recording season two and season two wasbooks. I was like, oh,
I'll get him one for season three. So everybody probably he knows him best
from Ghost Hunters. He has anew show, fixing the come out Haunted
Discoveries. Everybody, Welcome to LifeBeyond six feet. Mister Brandon Alvis Brandon,
Welcome to Life Beyond six feet.Man, Hey, guys, thanks

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for having me on. This isawesome absolutely So, like I was telling
me before we started recording, wejust kind of wing it and we just
kind of jump right in there.So, like I said, most people
probably know you from ghost Hunters,but for those who don't really know much
about you, kind of how toget your foot in the door in the
paranormal well, you know, Myjourney started in nineteen ninety five I lost

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my oldest brother to cancer. Iwas eight years old. Then in two
thousand and four, I lost anotherbrother to suicide. That kind of sent
me on my journey into the unexplained, if you will. And so I
was seventeen years old when my secondbrother passed away, and that kind of
just sent me off into this entirejourney about the possibility of life after death.
Never had an experience per se,but after my second brother passed away,

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I just grabbed every book I canget my hands on when it came
to ghost, audience by phenomena,psychological phenomena, all kinds of stuff.
And in two thousand and six,I started the American Paranamal Research Association to
solely investigate historical locations throughout the UnitedStates. And I've been doing that now,
wow, seventeen years. So it'sbeen the journey for sure, right,

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I know, some really good researchersfor you. Awesome, always looking
for good research always. Yeah.I think she's representing herself, so she
can she can hunt down anything withinlike five minutes. So it's crazy.
Um and and and the kind ofthe way you kind of got you your
journey. You know, that's that'san unfortunate way to get into it,

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but it does kind of, youknow, pique the interest when you you
know, something like that happens toa person and you're always wondered, you
know, what's what happens after?And so when you started this, uh,
I just I lost my train ofthought. Um when he started this
foundation of investigating historical Okay, sincewhere it was like the first place you

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actually went. Well, so thefirst location actually investigated it was an old
farmhouse in my in my hometown inBakersville, California. And so I was
working for a country music venue calledthe buck Owens Crystal Palace. You know
buck Owens. Well, I livedin Pedaloma for twenty years. Okay,

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all right, So I worked withbuck Owens until he passed away, and
I was there as a stage handfor many years. Was in the music
industry, you know, wanted tobe a rock star, wanted to play
metal music and stuff. So Ilooked at an ad in the newspaper back
in those days. Ever those days, not Craigslist or any online ads,

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but I saw they wanted a stagehand at the buck Owens Crystal palace and
I started working there and one ofthe guys I worked with it said that
they had this old abandoned farm propertythat had all this activity where there was
a double murderer and all this crazystuff happens. And I was always interested
because the loss of my two brothers, and so I was like, I
would love to check it out.So I went out there and investigated it.

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And that's kind of where it allstarted, you know. I actually
went out there because I was inthe music industry. I had a condenser
microphone and an entire recording set upto record guitars and drums and all this
stuff. So and then's how youwere catching your EVPs. That's how I
started with it. Yeah, Iwas out there. I didn't have any

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of the modern of equipment we havenow, no SLS or box or anything
like that. I went out there, can this a microphone, a two
PREAMPO and a digital interface or runinto a computer, and I just lit
that place up with audio and Icaught stuff that to this day I still
some of the best EVP ever captured. So it's been pretty wild. So

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so it's so in reality it isthe size of your equipment. Then I
guess, well not not now areyou still catching good EVP? The EVPs
though, I'm far more skeptical aboutit. So, you know, like,
over the years, I've been luckyenough to work with some amazing engineers,

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medical doctors and scientists that have reallyhelped me ground myself in scientific principle
and really understand what's something that's naturaland what's something that's not natural. And
uh but so in this day,those dvps I captured in that old farmhouse,
man, I send those over topeople and they put it through a
spectrum analysis. They try and figureit out, and they can't figure it
out. So it's uh so,I guess it was the size of the

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equipment. That's that's That's definitely adifferent way they kind of get your start
than most people. So that's that'sthat's definitely that's new to me. So
that's that's pretty that's pretty cool.So how how long into actually investigating before

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you appeared on ghost Hunters? Like, how did that come about? Well?
That was just like by complete accident, really, I mean again,
I started in two thousand and six. I founded APRA and mainly was to
work with historical societies and museums andtrying to help raise the money for these
places because so I grew up inCalifornia and a lot of these places even

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back then we're struggling. I mean, they were not having any revenue come
in. They would have the occasionaltour on the weekends, things like that.
But again, my interest for historyas well as the paranormal was a
way for me to get into theseplaces that many people typically didn't have access
to. Right. So I wouldwalk in and be like, hey,
I would like to do an investigation, but I would like to base this

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off the fact that if we findsomething, we can base a tour off
of it, or do a publicevent where people can come in and enjoy
the space. And one with alot of these old historical societies, I'm
sure you guys know that the peopleare like, we don't want to touch
the paranormal, we want nothing todo with it. But the way to
understand history for a lot of peoplethrough the paranormal. Right, So typically

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people that are not interested in historywould go a paranormal tour or to an
investigation, but in that process theyhave to learn about the historical context of
those places. So that was theway I got into these locations and I
started investigating those and let's just litoff from there and I started making videos
at the very beginning of YouTube andjust putting out historical documentaries about these locations.

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And I was eventually in twenty fourteenon the show called The Unexplained Files
on Science Channel, which was areally great show, similar to what you
see with say like paramal common camerashows like that now, but in the
early days where I went in witha world around scientists into Preston Castle in
i own California and investigated this oldboy's penitentiary where we went in to try

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and find the scientific rationality for someof the unexplainable events happening. So I
did that, and then eventually itjust rolled into ghost centers years later.
So it was never about really beingon TV. It was or about being
known for the research I did.It was just more about bringing some kind
of notoriety to the locations that Iwas investing. Yeah, worse exactly.

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And that's where it kind of spiraledinto where I am today, which is
kind of kind of weird, kindof funny, but it's it's been a
fun ride. Hey, Hey,everything happens for a reason, and um,
you know you've had a hell ofa journey and you and I have
to admit when when ghost Hunters firstcame out, like I was, I
was into it, but then Iwas like, man, this is kind
of boring. But I was stillinto it. But it was one of

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those things back when I was youngerwhen it first came out, like I
wanted to see the exciting stuff andand ghost Hunters wasn't all about that at
the time, and then still reallynot much today either. And so I
never made it to your episodes.But then when I put everything on Discovery
plus me my life, I wasLikeking, let's watch all the old ghost
Hunters, and we were working ourway up and we was a like season

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like eight or nine, and thenlike all the season got took off and
I'm like, what the I'm like, what the hell happened? It only
had like now it only has likeseason like fifteen, sixteen, seventeen and
eighteen, like all the previous seasonsare gone, and I'm like what.
I'm like, what the hell?Man? And so never made it to
his episodes, never got to makeit. Um, I think I did

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see a few episodes when you kindof they kind of rebooted it for a
and e UM I think it was, is that correct? Yeah? Yeah,
and like yeah, twenty nineteen totwenty twenty one. So when we
did the seasons like with Grant Wilsons, Yeah, now, I know I've
seen some of those and and thosewere you know, we're pretty interesting.

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So so during your time on GhostOwners, what's some of the your best
memories doing that? What was agreat show? Man? It was a
lot of fun at work on andfirst and foremost, Pilgrim Media Group who
produces the show, and Any werefantastic, man, Like, there was
never a situation that I was putinto where they told me to produce results.

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You know what I'm saying, right, you know what I mean?
A lot of these shows, youhave sensationalism, you have a lot of
let's be honest, bullshit r withI mean, I would say them and
I will say though with Any andPilgrim, they never put me in a
position where they were like, hey, you need to go in there and
make something happen, right, Sothat was great. So, I mean

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that being said, there was alot of moments that were fantastic. But
you know, I would say probablyClifton, Arizona was a really interesting place.
I was very lucky to consult oneof the medical doctors and also one
of the PCs. I work witha scientific insultent who handed over a piece
equipment called the E MCCD camera.And this camera is typically used by the
scientific community to record single photon events. And the reason we brought that in

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is because you know, you hearall the time people seeing luminous phenomena,
balls of light with their own eyes, things like that, and this camera
is very much suited to that kindof thing, like they use it with
a NASA to record photons within space. So I brought that in and we
took it to Clifton, Arizona,and we put it into this old boarding
house where people claim to see notonly balls of light going from one room

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to another, but also seeing thisfull bodied apparition walking between the two spaces
as well. We set it upin there and all of a sudden we
captured what looks like a huge ballof light, which a lot of people
would say is orbs, whatever youwant to call it, I would call
luminous phenomena. And it went inthe same trajectory, the same pattern as

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people have been saying for thirty plusyears. This is an old mining town.
I mean, these people staying inthis place are hardened miners in a
copper mind. They do not believein the paranormal. They don't give a
shit about any of that stuff.And we captured exactly what they said they've
seen, and luckily enough with thatdata with that particular camera bringing that back

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to our scientific consultant for him totake a look at that, he had
no explanation for what that was.That more interesting is the fact, you
know, is that typically they observethis in space, they observed this in
labs, things like that, andfor us to capture that was amazing.
So I would say that was probablya moment that really sticks out in my

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mind while being with andy Go Centers. That's awesome, that's great, that
that is pretty well, that'd besomething amazing that not only witness, but
to be the witness in a personso well. The thing that I'm thinking
about, too, is you're usinga piece of equipment that's not meant for
the paranormal exactly, and that's makingit work for the paranormal. It's like

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cat balls. That would have thoughtof cat balls for an emotion sensor,
right right, right, Well,I mean he's look how we got started
with music equipment, so you know, yeah, he's a he may be
a trendsetter here. So you know, I just fell the bear grills ideology,
adapt and overcome, right, that'sso adapt to ever come. All

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this stuff has led you down thispath. Now, when when did Haunted
Discoveries become a thing? Like,when did you have the idea for that?
So that's that was actually a webshow I did back going back to
twenty ten, you know, priorto like I was talking about earlier making
these mini documentaries about these historical locations. So that's where the idea initially started.

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And that's where it started airing intwenty ten and eleven on a web
series called Coldcast TV. So Istarted making these little little films, nothing
crazy, you know, I wasI was a kid with the camera.
Let's go around filming the things Iwas doing. And it started airing on
Coldcast TV. And now we're doingit on a larger scale, which has

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been great. So with this show, it's mainly focused on history and a
lot of the eyewitness testimony what peoplehave experienced, but also, you know,
trying to implement hard science. Andwe've been lucky enough to have my
good friend, one of my bestfriends, doctor Harry Klore. He's the
first person in history to receive twoPhDs simultaneously in any discipline, and he's

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been on the road with us tryingto help us document what people perceive to
be parable phenomenon. So it's beengreatmal He would call him, well,
I think he would call himself anatural skeptic, you know, and that
terminology gets really mixed up a lotof times because there are people that call
themselves skeptics that really aren't skeptics.They're just non believers, right, So

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a skeptic is someone that wants tofind proof that something exists. Most people
that call themselves a skeptic are peoplethat's like, no, I don't believe
it. I don't believe it.So, you know, so it's a
it's a slippery slope when you talkabout the term skeptic. But I think
he's open minded and willing to comeout and try and help us find answers
for what's something that's natural and what'ssomething that may be unexplainable. Well,

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just the fact that your group goesin and debunks that's that's a good one.
We try our best, you knowwhat I mean, because like they're
there's so much that happens now asyou guys know, the sensationalisms through the
roof. You know, there's somany people trying to find some kind of
notoriety, fame, whatever you wantto call it. I mean, everyone

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has their own reason for doing this. But you know, there are answers
I think that we all want ashumans. You know, death is something
we're all going to meet. That'sone thing that binds us as human beings.
Doesn't matter who you are, whereyou come from, what your belief
system is, We're all going tomeet that untimely end in some way.
And I think we all want thoseanswers. If you're an atheist, you

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know, a spiritualist, Christian,Muslim, Jewish, whatever, you know,
we're all going to meet that end. And I think that those are
all answers we want. I thinkthat bringing practicality and being rational is something
that I think this field needs forsure. Right yeah, I gotta tell
you, if I hear one morelocation that's infested with a demon, I
swear to God, I'm going tolose it. They all are. Apparently,

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I can probably film a YouTube videoon here and say the same right
exactly, that we should be expectingthe four horsemen of Hippocalypse or apocalypse next
right. That's That's what's it seemedto become have become here these last couple
of years. It seems like everything'sa demon and I've been doing this.
I wouldn't say professionally, but I'vehad my team for three years, and

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at one time, if I hadencountered something I would consider demonic. So
it's like they're it's just crazy.I've had one encounter heavy now one one
encounter, and it was not somethingthat I want to happen again. H
Nope. I don't think I wouldeither if I had it happened. So
yeah, So now I know someof the places you've done for Haunted Discoveries,

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which hasn't officially aired any episode yet, So I don't want to give
away too much about stuff, butI know, like we was talking before
we started recording, you've been tosome of my favorite locations. Waverley Hill
has been one of them. Yea, So how how did Waverly Hills treat
you when you went there for tofilm this episode. Well, what's great.

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We did that in ghost centers aswell. And I've been I've been
very lucky to become very good friendswith Tina and Charlie, amazing people,
you know, I first met themin twenty nineteen. Unreal, man,
those two are just the most hardworking, dedicated, real people you will meet
in this field. I mean,just unbelievable, you know. That's that's

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what I keep hearing. I mean, just the grit of those two is
just insane. I mean, likeI've met a lot of people. I've
been lucky enough to investigate well overtwo hundred locations in this country. I've
been to forty nine states investigating inthis country. I've never met two location
owners like Tina and Charlie. I'mjust an incredible so I mean, with

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hard discoveries. We've now filmed thirtytwo episodes and the first season is going
to start airing here in October,which is awesome. And so we filmed
the Waverly Hills episode here about amonth and a half two months ago,
which will be on the third season. But it was amazing to go back
and be part of that. Again, it was like the first time actually
when Tina and Charlie got back intothe building, right, we were we

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were very lucky to be the firstTV show. I hate to use that
terminology, so oh god, it'sjust you know what it is. But
it was great to be the firstmedia and TV show to be back in
there when they retained the building.And I will tell you what my experience
from twenty nineteen with Ghost Centers towhat we just did into twenty twenty three

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vastly different. And I'll tell youwhat, whatever is going on in Waverly
Hills was waiting for them to comeback, and and it definitely showed itself
in a big way. So itwas it was phenomenal. And again it
was it was amazing to be therewith Tina and Charlie and when they were
fighting to get the building back,Mustafa and I both were there, you

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know, trying to help them fighttooth and nail to get that building back,
and we did everything we could tohelp him, you know, in
any way we could. And uh, it's great to see them back.
So it's fantastic. Absolutely. Andthen and our our guest for episode one,
he was he's a big fighter ina in a big, big Waverley
Hills guy. We had Ernie Packon the show last week and yeah,

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yeah, and uh, I don'tthink you mentioned it, but I think
I may have seen a couple ofpictures somebody may have shared, like I
think you may interviewed him for forhundred discoveries him and Denise. Absolutely,
he's gonna be on a couple episodesof the show Season one. Nice.
Yeah, which which family are yougoing to be showing? What? What
the network is this going to beon? I can't tell you, y,

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I'm sorry, it's still on therun maybe or the new new Paranormal
for everybody? No, not thatone, okay, but uh, but
I will tell you it's be announced. I would imagine. I think in

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the next two weeks. It's veryit's very close. It's very very cool.
That's how excited about that? Andnow, do you still get excited
about your new babies when they comeout or you just you're you're so jaded
to this that it doesn't matter anymore. Well, you know, with this
new series, I directed it,I produced it, and I edit it.

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So I've seen it so many timesand I just I just want other
people to see it, right,And I just I just hope that we're
doing good work. That's the biggestthing, because I mean, we put
our bloods from Tears to this project, and we've listened to everyone we know,
We've been around amazing people like Earning, Denise, Tina and Charlie,
and I just I just hope peoplesee it for what it is, and

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I hope people I hope people enjoyit because I mean, we're just trying
to be ourselves. We're trying todo new things and we're trying to do
the best work we can. SoI think it's gonna be good because,
like I said, I personally knowa lot of the people you've worked with
over over these these few have seasonsnine episode seasons. Old Stone Jail,

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I know you filmed episode there inFranklin, Kentucky. Um, Billy Wilkerson,
you know, I've hung out withhim a couple of times up there
and had him actually did a laughepisode with him and his crew from the
Old Stone Jail a few months ago. And that place is pretty cool.
How did that experience go for youguys up there? Oh? Man,
Billy is phenomenal. Billy's gonna beon three episodes of the series. Yeah,

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wow, he's gonna be on oldStone Jail episode obviously, as you
know, kind of the curator there, the guy that runs the place,
right, And we also brought himout to two other locations, one in
season two and one in season threewhere he did some ground penetrating radar for
US nice in a few locations,and man, old Stone was amazing,

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incredible location. Some of the historyassociated at that place, I mean the
Civil War history alone, merits somethinghappening there. But Billy, Billy is
awesome, man Like, it's socool to hear, like the other people
that we work with, and youguys know, it's really really cool.
These are these are amazing people thatreserve a huge spotlight, man Like.
These people are just hard working,amazing people that I think a lot of

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them don't get recognized in the field, which they should, you know,
they they do great work only fromthe historical preservation side of everything, but
they just do good work, youknow, right, And the builds on
Jail's just sitting there right next tothe Historical Society. Yeah, yeah,
it's amazing what they've done on historypreservation for that area. It's it's it's

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pretty, it is pretty amazing.And in another place, which is my
probably my absolute favorite location, thehistoric Scott County Jail. Um. I
know, people listening to the showis probably tired of hearing me talk about
this storic Scott County jail, butit's it's hard not to talk about when
it's just such an amazing place,not only from a paranormal stand point,

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but from the history standpoint as well. So, so, how did your
time at the Scott County Jail whenyou filmed there? How did that place
go for you? Guys? Well, you know, it was really cool.
Is like one we brought in adescendant of one of the sheriffs that
actually died in the jail, whichwas really cool to bring him into the
investigation and bring him into the fold. But n Kevin Ott, who was

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one of our investigators on the show, he was a former former correctional officer
and sheriff and a jailer at onetime, so putting him into that scenario
again was really interesting to see howthat played out because he kind of just
went into I guess this, youknow, rewind mode in a way where
he just also was transported back tohis old profession and being put into that

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scenario. We had some really interestingthings happen, especially those the seals on
the second floor, you know,the top or actually third floor, I'd
take that back, yeah, wherehe had some really cool stuff happened.
He had some of the original keys, which I'm sure you've seen at Scott
County, and we gave him thoseand he kind of was a living trigger
object in a way, and wejust let him run around and we have

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some really really cool EVP that happenedduring that scenario. That's awesome. And
and and and Kelly, I knowyou've seen my video. Brandon's actually seen
my video too, so you're kidding. Oh my goodness, that's awesome.
That is so awesome. So it'sh like I said, that that place
holds. There's gotta be a timethat you get to experience the screaming persons.
That's all I have to say,Brandon. You have to be there

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in person for it. It's beyondbelief. It's well, you know,
when shit happens and you're not fullyprepared for it. You know, when
you see shit flying through the air, to not expecting what happens safe touch
you know people have safe words.You need a safe touch, You need

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a place where people can touch youthat you just don't go three feet off
the ground screaming. Yeah, I'mI'm I'm a screamer on the investigations,
Like I always get spooked by stuffnormally that's not pared normal And uh,
it's made for a great blooper reel, Oh it has, It's it's just
freaky. I don't like, Imean, I don't want to scare you
so bad. When you're like doingthe st session, you got the blindfold

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on and the muss and everything,and I got it. It's like,
go get him out and I'm like, no, you'll do it. We'll
see. What was funny about thatis right before you guys snapped me out
of it, like I was gettingemotional, Like I was literally like tearing
up from like stuff that was comingthrough, And did you scare the hell
out of me? So so,so how many seasons do you plan on

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having? You said you've done threeseasons so far. Are you still filming?
Are you just kind of taking abreak right now? So actually,
right now I'm editing the third season, so twelve episodes I'm actually working on
right now, so the first twohave been bought by a network no one
shall shall not be named at themoment, but season one will air in

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October and we'll see what happens afterthe third. You know, it could
keep going. We'll see. That'svery cool. Congratulations, it's very very
exciting. Man. So now,well, when you go to these locations
to film for stuff like this,how how do you go about doing that?
You just say, hey, Iwant to come film from a show,
or how how do you go aboutdoing that? So we base everything

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we do off of the historical records, right, So instead of going to
a place because it's you know,rumored to be haunted per se, we
try and do historical you know researchand background where find what we call the
elements of a haunting. So webase that specifically off in historical context to
where we believe there's a specific eventsor multiple events that would lead to parable

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phenomena or what some would perceive tobe parable phenomena. So it's not necessarily
about the big, well known locations. We have done some of those within
the show, but it's mainly aboutspecific events that we think can lead to
you know, phenomena and could leadto what you know, MINI call a
haunting, right, and have youguys made a list of what those those

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definitions are. Yeah, yeah,Actually, Mustaf and I released a book
called Elements of a Haunting and yeah, we that was actually last year was
published by Llewellyn worldwide and uh everywhere. Yeah, so that that's something that
we It's research we've been conducting forabout seventeen years, and we believe that
there are certain events that would leadto one location being more active than another.

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But again, we have no idea, no one knows, no,
no one exactly knows what creates Well, eventually we're going to figure it out.
That would be that would be idealhopefully the plan and you know,
being lucky enough to have medical doctorsand engineers and sciences that work with us,
we're trying to push this field tomore of a scientific discipline. H

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Right now, I just had somethingI'm ahead and I went totally blank.
Again. I've been blanking out alot today, Kelly. I know,
I know you're still working today.You work today, didn't you? I
did? I've been up since aboutthree forty five this morning. Yeah,
it's because you haven't had a dayoff that's the whole problem. But um

(28:18):
me, I'm blanking out because I'mon a paranormal hangover right now. While
while you're finished and ending up seasonthree and you get that done, what
what do you what do you haveplanned while you're releasing your season? You're
just gonna kind of hang out fora while. Are you just gonna?
What's the plans right now? Continuethe research man always, you know,

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keep chugging along finding out what's exactlyhappening, because I mean, once we
go and film in a location thatcould have been six months to a year
ago, we're still trying to youknow, put the pieces together and figure
it out. Because you know,the whole plan is not to go to
a location one time. It's toobserve these locations for years and try and
figure out exactly what's happening. Sothat's always kind of been the goal for

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opera and the goal for our research. So once we have that together,
it's hopefully to go back and figureit out and see exactly what data from
other locations correlate with that, andto try and consult other professionals from technical
industries and see exactly what we're dealingwith. That's that's the goal. Hell
yeah, Now you you mentioned aminute ago that you've been to forty nine

(29:25):
different states. What's the one stateyou haven't investigated it? Because now I'm
just curious that was gonna be myguests Hawaii or Alaska? Was gonna be
my guests? Been to Alaska.We went to Alaska and ghost centers and
we did an incredible case. Theysent They sent us to Alaska in February.
Great job. Nice not only thesen just to Alaska. They sent
us to one of the most remoteplaces in Alaska where they filmed it.

(29:48):
You know the TV showed gold Rushthe Klondike. That's where they sent us
in February. I love it.If you like the cold, n I
love cold. I don't know whatI do. You would love it?
Check it out. I keep tellingpeople I should go live in Nova Scotia.

(30:11):
You can keep the cold. Idon't like it. Okay, Now
you've been to all these amazing locationsover the years. What's what would be
like your top three favorite locations you'vebeen to. Oh, that's tough.
Um, we'll definitely see probably RMSQueen Mary's up there. Nice, not
in any particular order, but I'llgive you three locations. I would say

(30:33):
Arms, Queen Mary Um Sport,Stanton, New Mexico. Oh man.
Then the third ones would be toughUm probably mcconaughie Estate in California as well,
So I think two of those wouldbe in California. Nice. Nice.
Now, is there are any placesyou haven't investigated yet that you really

(30:56):
want to? Oh? Yeah,I would. I always say the Tow
of London is like, oh,that's one on my list. That's definitely
got the elements of a haunting,you know what I mean. We're talking
hundreds and hundreds of years of notonly bad history, which I mean we're
not always looking for bad history obviously, but I mean has that emotional aspect

(31:18):
to it where you have families,you know, ripped apart, you have
love, you have tragedy, youhave everything there. I think the Tower
of London would probably be one ofthose for sure. That would be cool.
That would be cool. A sale, Oh my goodness, just yeah,
that would be crazy. Just thinkingabout that, it's just wild.

(31:41):
So just just investigating in England wouldbe wild. And that's centuries and centuries
and centuries of history exactly. There'show can you even pick out who's haunting
someplace when it's centuries of history,right, you're talking millions of people.
It could be that's awesome, rightnow. I know you're a big debunker

(32:05):
and you try to figure out youknow, scientific equinisis for stuff. But
I know there has to be timefor you had the hell scared out of
you? Right? Not too many? Too many to know I wouldn't say
so. No. You know,again, I'm not a skeptic per se,
and I'm not a believer, youknow what I mean. I'm like,
there are many days we'll all gocompletely believing that there's something happening that's

(32:30):
supernatural. There will be days thatI just absolutely don't believe anything. So
I wish find myself in that middleground. But you know, I haven't
been scared too many times, youknow. I wish to like I have
some kind of a rational thought withinthese locations. But there has been data
that we've collected that I have,you know, provided to people far smarter
than myself or anyone I know thatwould say I don't know what the hell

(32:53):
that is. That's speak and that'sthe moments I think that are scarier than
being in the moment per se right, you know, as you guys know,
you guys do this all the time. Like a lot of this is
pretty pretty goddamn boring, So itreally is. I wish like the exciting
moments or when we can provide somethingto uh, you know, a professional

(33:15):
from another technical industry that says,hey, I don't know what the hell
that is. We've ran this room, this test, this test, this
test, and we don't know whatthat is. I feel like those are
the moments that are are a bitscarier than being in the moment and you
know, being frightened per se right, I mean that that does make a
lot of sense. Unlike me,who gets spooked every time you see a

(33:37):
shadow, so so, and wedon't want me spoked spooked. Yeah,
I would like to see you scream. I think that would be fun.
Now, you don't want to seeme scream, because somebody's gonna get hurt
if I do. We'll make it. We'll make sure we're in another room.

(33:58):
I've raised I've raised two boys inone girl. You're gonna have to
yeah, oh goodness. Yeah,they're now adults and they're still alive.
So so, so if people wantto follow along with Brandon Alvis and Haunted
Discoveries. How how can I theyfind you? You know, all the

(34:20):
social handles, you know, Facebook, Instagram, all the good stuff.
We don't have a TikTok, that'sthe only thing we don't have, but
we have you know, Facebook,Instagram, Twitter, So myself Brandon Alvis
or you can go to my websiteBrandon Jalvis dot com and also just Haunted
Discoveries TV on all the platforms.Nice and when you make the official announcement
U, I'll make sure I tryto get a promoter on all my my

(34:45):
social suit for the not only thepodcast, but for the for our teams
as well, so that way helpget the word out there and get people
excited for for for your new yournew journeyman that I know you've been working
hard on it for like you said, the last couple of years, and
I've been kind of following along withyour progress and just seeing all the different
places you've been and all the peopleyou've met. I think it's just,

(35:05):
uh, it's absolutely amazing to putin that much hard work and see it
all payoff. Yeah, I appreciateyou guys. It's been awesome, but
you know it's it's been It's beena lot of work, you know,
seventeen years I've been doing this activelyin the field, and it's been incredible.
I've been I've been very lucky.I've been around some amazing people.
I've been in some great situations.And I can't wait for people to see

(35:28):
it. And I hope that theyenjoy it as much as we enjoyed making
it. And hopefully we can,you know, make some breakthroughs and hopefully
change the field in some way.That'd be fantastic, it would be And
and I know here in October,I know you said the show is going
to be coming out then, butyou also have a con you're going to
be attending here in Tennessee as well, right, Yeah you are? Which

(35:52):
one you go into with Eric FreemanSimms? Yeah, yeah, it could
be a lot of fun. Imean, that's the one. That's that's
it, I believe. So yeah, I'm so sorry, that's the one
air spitting on. Yeah, we'llbe there. Yeah, yeah, so
meet you there. Yeah. I'mstill trying to get Jay down for that

(36:16):
one though, and maybe you canconvince him to come down. So yeah,
I'm trying. I'm trying, well, Brandon, this has been really
fun. My internet's being kind ofwacky. It's been like everybody's been talking
like they're in Japanese movies. Sooh it's been great. Guys, Thank

(36:40):
you so much. Absolutely. Umall right, like I said, when
everything everything, everything is everything isfreezing up now, oh my gosh.
Um. Anyways, so everybody followthem on with Brandon Alvis, be starting
to check out Haunted Discoveries when itcomes out. All social media but TikTok,

(37:00):
you can find these guys and uhgirl, support him because he's one
of the guys that's actually doing itright and not doing this for clicks and
likes, and he's not all aboutdemons, so which is a big plus
in this community. So exactly.Yeah, all right, Brandon, I
really appreciate you coming on, andeverybody be sure to check out Haunted Discoveries
when it comes out in October.Thanks guys, all right, thank you.

(37:22):
May you'll have a good night.
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