S3E3 Ronnie Dee

In this episode we chat with Ronnie Dee about the very haunted Old South Pittsburgh Hospital and the very haunted Old Historic Harriman Hospital and more!!

Episode Transcript

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Welcome everyone the Life Beyond six Feet. I'm Damien from r KB Paranormal,
joined once again by my co host, slash host whatever you want to call
her, Miss Kelly Schafer from Ktwo Paranormal. Kelly, welcome back.
I came back again. You didn'tthird third episode, third episode in a
time. Yeah, so, andum, it's something I wanted to do

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for this season. I wanted toget some owners of some haunted locations on
and I've got quite a list linedup. But um, guest number one,
a lot of people would know himfrom old South Pittsburgh Hospital and now
he's pretty known for the old historicHareman Hospital. Everybody, Welcome Ronnie D
to Life Beyond six Feet. WelcomeRonnie. Thanks for having me. Guys,

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Well what, I'm also the soundeffects one the thing. But before
we get started, you can tellthat I'm not really good at this because
you guys got these like cool backgroundsgoing on. I get I'm married to
get my other really cool background goingout here too, So I hope many
minds that that's, you know,my cupboard in the kitchens, I got
all my I got my office overhere, so it's all good figuring this

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out later right, thanks for havingabsolutely and uh, like I said,
I don't want to get some someowners of haunted locations on and Tennessee.
Wise, you're probably the most wellknown owner of haunted locations. Um So,
before we dive into the to thehospital and stuff, what kind of
led you down the path of theparanormal. I've been kind of a paranormal

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investigator for probably much like both ofyou, for very long period of time,
and I really really enjoyed going todifferent locations throughout the United States,
and family did it with me,friends did it with me, and there's
just a point in time where Iwas like I wanted to be more involved
in the paranormal and really still thatbrought me into ownership and never looked back
since looking at more locations all thetime and really really enjoy it. But

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the thing that I think is reallykind of neat that sets our team apart
two is it's it's not really theparanormal, but it's the historical relephants and
accurate. I think that was onething the team kind of really focuses on.
And if anybody's been in the SouthPittsburgh, guys all know that we
have been kind of rewriting the historybecause the owners are really pushing kind of

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you know, the scary end ofit, not telling really the truth.
So you know, there's a lotof stuff that we come across on you
know, Facebook or on Instagram orTwitter that we're you know, day by
day trying to correct because they didsuch a bad job just you know,
telling the true history of the building. So um, you know, and
by the way, the buildings arehaunted, which you know, we all
know that the paranormal that's what paysthe you know, these buildings running and

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everybody comes out and does an investigationand talks to our residence. Right.
So now you said, even doingthe paranormal thing for a long time,
was there any experience as you hadas like a younger adulter or even as
a child that kind of got youinterested in this stuff? We can be
really honest with you. I'm oneof those people who, you know,
what about twenty years ago, Iturned on the TV and there was a

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ghost show on, and I've gotteninvolved. I thought it was really really
cool, and I think kind ofthe reason that I got involved was,
you know, when you watch someof these shows and you hear an EVP
and you know, you know,the what do you call the dynamics of
the audio isn't exactly the greatest comingover your TV. So you know,
you're kind of sitting around going,oh, I didn't really hear that come

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out, right, So I thinkwe wanted to go out and kind of
try it for ourselves. And I'mby no, by no means an expert.
You know, it's for me.It's always been kind of a fun
hobby sort of thing. Um.I enjoyed it to you know, and
go locations and to see what happenwe'd come up with and that kind of
a thing and kind of debunk whatwe thought wasn't real. And and I
do remember, you know, goingon my first paranormal investigation and getting that

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first first EVP, and I'm like, oh, this shit really is real.
You into it and then it's justkind of like anything else, it's
more and more and more and moreand more. You know, you go
VP and then you know, youget your first dish, you get your
first that, and so you know, it's just like anything else. It's
like driving a car, racing yourcar. You know, you want to
push it more and more and moreyou know, to see what evidence you

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can get and kind of go fromthere. And that kind of led us
down that path. And you know, first it was EVPs, then it
was shadow figure, then full bodyapparition and so forth and so on.
And you know, now being anowner, anybody who wants to debate the
paranormal with me bringing up so manyexperiences on both buildings that it's just undeniably
something going on there. So it'samazing that you own both of those,

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that's so awesome. How did youcome about? How did you find out
that they were for sale? Well, South Pittsburgh kind of kind of was
a mistake. Well, actually bothbuildings were kind of a mistake. We
I'm from Chicago, if anybody noticesthe accent, I'm a Northerner. And
so when we did our investigations,we tried to line up four or five

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buildings in a row, you know, so that when we're going to Tennessee,
you're driving nine hours. You don'twant to stay at one location.
You kind of want to go fromlocation location locations. So we did,
you know, we started old SouthPittsburgh, went to Hales Bar Damn I
believe it or not, went toconference building which was which was in Harem
in Tennessee. It's like fifteen yearsago already. And then we went to
and I'm going to get this wrongbecause I think it was only open for

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a very short period of time,but we went to this Japanese school of
Boys and Learning or something other thatwas outside of mind. That doesn't sound
good, Yeah it was. Itwas really a weird location, real weird
vibes. And then we kind ofwent northward and did some more locations in
the way home. So our firststop was at South Pittsburgh and if anybody

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has been there before, it's oneof those locations that it's a hometown hospital.
It's not one of those gigantic,massive hospitals that we're all to now.
So when you kind of walked throughthe door, it kind of grabbed
you. It was kind of like, you know. And then it was
funny because a lot of the volunteersthat I have on the team now and
stuff. It was one of thosebuildings that when it gets to know you,
it doesn't shut up. But ohyeah, but on our first trip

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it was really lame. I'm notgonna I'm not gonna lie. We went
you know, it was kind ofa lame experience. We got a little
bit of this, a little bitof that, and then the EVPs.
We started hearing av peers and thenit drew you in. It was kind
of like the EVPs were really intelligentresponses. It was kind of so every
year we kind of made the planto go back, and then it got

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kind of addictive where I think wewere going back to old South Pittsburgh probably
about every four months. Wow,maybe just down to South Pittsburgh. And
then I had an experience in thehospital that really solidified my position on the
paranormal. We were up on thethird floor. There are a couple of
investigators with me and two of usmyself and Zach as playing his day a
full body operation of a nurse kindof walked by in the nursery. She

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looked at me like dead in theeyes, gave me like this kind of
dirty look, kind of zoomed backand then open opened up the door and
just disappeared. Wow. Zach andI kind of looked at it, try
of like WHOA. I made anoffer the next morning to the owners of
the hospital, which they turned downbecause they were making a ton of money.
If anybody's ever been there. Theywere the owners that didn't believe in

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fixing anything or taking care of anything. They like the money, but didn't
want to fix anything. So lateron down the road, I got wind
from the police officer that was therethat I've was friends with, that they
weren't paying their taxes and that thehospital was in a lot of trouble with
the irs. He wasn't paying parreltaxes and such. Irs basically auctioned off

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everything he owned that was a value. And I got ahold of the irs
and said, hey, I'm reallyinterested. And there we are, five
or six years later in the hospital, and I think we're making some great
approvements of you know what it wasfive or six years ago, right,
And that's and like you said,you kind of you kind of lend it
kind of about luck and uh andright, and you've turned it into a

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really good place. And like Isaid, I've kind of watched the progress
over the years of how you've youknow, kind of slowly kind of restored
it a little bit. And uh, Kelly, I don't think you've ever
been there before, have you?I have not. It's on my list,
It's it's on my list I'm doing, And yeah, I just haven't.
I haven't been able to get downthere because I'm off on the days

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and everybody that can go with meisn't off on the days, so right,
and I don't. I don't believein going those hunting alone, primarily
because I promised myself that I wouldnever pee alone, and I still have
yet to do it after thirteen years. He alone or pared investigate alone.

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I refused to go to the bathroom, you know, haunted location by myself.
That's all I need is some ghostscatching me on the toilet. Oh
my goodness. Now, I wentthere about two years ago, about two
years ago during one of the publicevents you guys put on and and I'm

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not a real big fan of thepublic events, but I still wanted to
go because I wanted to check itout. And uh, we were still
a fairly new team and I wasactually introduced to the S S method there.
But um oh, I can't rememberher name. Yeah, that's you

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know. We was in one ofthe rooms and she was like, you
know, whoever wants to try this, you know, let's go for it.
Not through my handoffs. You putme in a separate room. And
I've been I've been addicted to theSAS method ever since. And I remember
you telling about the like the puffsof smoke and stuff you would just randomly
see. I remember seeing and thatright before we did the assis panthod.
So, so how did you comeabout learning about all the different things that

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go on there? Just what aboutthe PEPs of spoke? Isn't there?
Isn't that some form of um umthe words escaping me right now? I
know it was, yes, yeah, kind of something that kind of something

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that is really unique to osph AndI've never been on another investigation that kind
of has this is that I wouldsay probably it's happened. I've won the
building for about six years now andabout the third year in um, like
I said, we've been cleaning up. We moved about one hundred tons of
garbage out of the building. Ifanybody's been there prior to us, you
know, the whole downstairs was kindof we head to tip through tiptoo,

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tiptoe through garbage. You know,we got rid of all that. We
really we really cleaned the building up, making it made it all accessible for
investigators. But about three years,two to three years into owning the building.
Um, we were with JB.We were actually doing an investigation where
I remember your night by the way, Yeah, but we have Yeah,
it was, it was. Itwas a pretty phenomenal night if I remember

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correct. Um, but yeah,we So we have an addition that's on
the back of the building that's actuallyan er waiting room, and then next
to it is the body box.Is probably where you spent your evening.
It was a force It was afour body cooler that basically somebody died in
the hospital, they would put thebody there until the morgue or the coronary
or the guy could pick it offthe corridor. Yeah, whoever one of

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those guys, the body donor orthe body doctor. So what we do
is we do the STS method inthere. And we were actually doing the
STS method probably about two and ahalf two years two and a half two
and a half years ago, twoand a half to two years ago,
and we had a group of peoplein the er and all of a suddenly
we smelt this maple syrup. Itwas it was to the point where it
was really over overwhelming and we're allkind of you know, we're all in

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the dark, and everybody's blaming everybodyelse for puffanana. What do you call
those things? Yeah, babe,everybody's appointing fingers. This is the first
time it kind of happened. Andso one of the girls actually turned her
flashlight on and as she turned herflashlight up, the whole room was full
of smoke, and we're all kindof looking around and going, whoa,
this is really weird. Well,at that same time, there was like

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a presence that was felt. Therewas like the room kind of change and
you know, you can feel thatkind of positive energy come in the room,
and the smoke went away. Sowe went on with the SDS method,
and all of a suddenly somebody startedgagging again, and we turned the
flashlight on and there's another cloud ofsmoke right in front of one of our
guests, and so we're all kindof looking around and to like, where

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the hell is this coming from.So one of the girls, her name
is is m I can't think rightleon Leonne actually looked into it and we
realized that one of the founding fathersof the hospital was actually a doctor who
would walk around through the hospital smokinga pipe. Oh wow. When this
hospital was open, the doctor wouldactually you know, go from room patient

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to room, walk throughout the hallwayssmoking his pipe. And we later learned
that when the doctor Taylor his namewas doctor Taylor. When he was angry
with you because you weren't following likehis medical advice, he'd take his pipe
and he'd slam in his hand andhe would tell you, I told you
blah blah blah blah blah. Well, the more and more time went out,
and the more and more we recognizethat it was doctor Taylor, the

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more visits he made, and sonow it's like it's pretty normal that you'll
see him in the hospital just puffingaway on the pipe. And what's neat
is he'll do it at different varioustimes, different investigations. He doesn't seem
to be really shy, like Ithink the night you were there, we
had probably about twenty two people inthat room. He'll just come right out,
start smoking the pipe and you know, do his thing and walk down

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the hall. And I know,it was really kind of funny because we
did have a pupping investigation one nightand we had a guest that was in
there. It was a skeptic,and it was great that he was there.
But he's like oh, I knowyou're it's you. You're riggedness You've
got And I'm like, well,what can I do to prove to you
that it's not me? So theguy basically guessed me to strip down to
my underwear and so so I's like, well, you know you can pat

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me down, you can, youknow, I mean, we're really as
a paranormal investigator, I don't wantto fake anything. You know, we
want that our industry is is youknow, we're already looked at kind of
like oh my gother a bunch ofpeople sit around in the dark. You
know, I want to I don'twant to add to that. I want
to be a positive influence on theparanormal. So he did, he patted
me down. As he's patting medown in the hallway way from the group,

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all of a sudden he smoke appearsagain, and I remember the look
on his face and he was likehe spoke the rest of the night into
his car while he was the biggestskeptic of the night. He left sitting
in the car the rest He's like, he's like, dude, I'm done.

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He's like, that's awesome. Ican't just proove this. He's like
I'm going to go sit in thecar. You go enjoy the rest of
your night. What I want tosee, and that his wife's been back
a couple of times since then,but he's never been back in the building.
Oh wow, that's good stuff.Oh my god. We find that
quite often though. I mean alot of building owners will tell you that.

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One of the things that's really toois we do a public investigation one
once every month, and it's kindof people who don't have teams want to
your new events were, Yeah,we do like once a month, and
primarily, like I said, it'sfor people who don't have teams or like
in your situation, it's for peoplewho have a team who want to come
down and check out the building beforemaking the booking. You know, if

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somebody that would be that would givesomebody kind of the lay of the land
to find out if they had anyyou know, any activity that evening.
You know, it's it's good bothways because we do treat a teach a
lot of people, you know,to get into the paranormal. But then
we got a lot of experience.Is people to come you know, like
I said, who maybe born ona Saturday night and their teams doing something
else and they just want to comeout, so they come out, so

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we do the public investigations, anduh, what's really really funny. I
think most buildings all owners us isthat pretty much maybe a couple times a
year, they'll get a guy who'ssix five, probably two hundred and eighty
pounds. Please, oh your singleon, I was going to stay with

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his hundred pound wife. And it'sbecause he'll come in with this kind of
macho at it such thing as goes. And most of the time they're in
the car by ten o'clock because theyeither get touched or pulled or pulled they
see something that they plane and boom, they're sitting in the car and they're
a little five two hundre pound wifeis running around the hospital. This is
the right. Oh that's good,that's that's really good stuff. I'm going

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to car. I've gone, soDamien, just go I don't go run
out of the building though, Ijust you know, you know, you
know, you just scream, yeahdo um So obviously own owning this location,

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you've obviously you obviously know the buildingreally well. You know that the
spirits are really well, what's what'ssome of the stuff you've personally experienced in
the time you've had this that's kindof left your kind of left you scratching
your head. You know what.There's too many of the name I mean,
but I will tell you I thinkone of the most probably influential times
that we had as we had agentleman his name was Art come out.

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He was the old maintenance man ofthe building, and um, he was
walking through the building and he wasvalidating a lot of the things that you
know, Like he walked past theelevator. The elevator's got no electricity at
all. It's been shut off longbefore I bought the building. He walks
past, goes ding, the elevatordings, and he looks at the elevator,
gos oh to show the elevators backon those things. He's like,

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so he like actually was able toidentify the ring of the you know,
of the elevator. There was acouple of people with us that we're actually
recording some of the interactions that weregoing on, and it was kind of
neat because afterwards he would actually gothrough the recordings. He's been back a
couple of times since the initial timethat we met him, which is a

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whole different story in itself we gotto talk about because it's kind of funny.
But he's been back a couple oftimes since then, and so on
the second or third visit, hecame out. We had our voice recorders
running, and he's walking through thehallways and blah blah blah, and so
he plays back. We're playing back. Take him out of the porch,
we play back the voice recorder andhe hears voices and he's identifying voices of

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people that are a voice recorder whoworked at the hospital while he was there,
looking at him, going oh,so when you get stuff like that,
like I said, you know,the paranormal, a lot of people
look at us like we're when they'redoing this, they're doing that. You
know, I don't know what we'rechasing. I don't know what we're you
know, communicating with. But forsomebody like that, who's spent his whole

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life in the building and to listento a voice recorder and be like,
oh yeah that's Betty, Oh yeah, that's so and so you just have
to take a step back and belike, WHOA, there really is something
to what we're doing right absolutely now, Now you got it, Damien.
H Remember you got a co host, So I can't just sit here and
look pretty. Okay, I don'thave a question, but you're looking for

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that six pounds almost over five ftten. That's all I want. Over
five foot ten, you know,that's all I want. Well, there
goes half the population, right,Well, I know. See that's why
I'm picking just not everybody. Anyway. Now we're getting away from this because
I'm being silly. By the way, Happy birthday. Oh thank you,

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yes, um, thank everybody elsefor all the birthday wishes. I was
pretty overwhelming. I mean I waslike, isn't it. I was up
as ding ding ding ding ding onthe Facebook. I'm like, whoa,
this is kind of nice. Yeah, you wish me happy birthday. It
was really nice for everybody. It'sreally very cool when people do that.
I think it's really lovely. Yeah. So I got a question for you.

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What brought you down from from Alaska? No, Chicago, from Chicago.
It says that you were from Alaska. Oh no, no, no,
yeah, that's just a goofy.What do you call? Yeah,
I was gonna say, why didyou come down from Alaska where you've got
some of the best haunts Chicago.I've come from Chicago, which also has
some of the best haunts, butI will tell you winners in Chicago are

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awful. Oh yeah, I wasborn and raised in Iowa, so yeah,
I know, yeah, so yeah, yeah. So the Facebook thing
is, that's an old Facebook,and I never went back and actually changed
some of those things. So nowthat you brought that up out to put
Chicago back down, So let's see. I found out how you got the
haunted places? How are you lookingto just any more haunted places? We

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are. I can't tell you what'sin the works right now, but we
are flying out to the Eastern Seaboardrelatively soon here in the next week to
work with people who actually own alocation right now who are having a little
bit of trouble. So hopefully we'regoing down and talk to them and see
what we can do with them.But we're looking at a couple of locations
in Alabama. So yeah, we'redifferent. Really. I love the paranormal

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guys, and don't get me wrong, this is awesome, But with me,
I don't investigate anymore. I don'tdo like the kind of things that
you know, our group's come inand do quite frankly, because I'm working
on the buildings all the time,and my new found love is the historic
part of it, like you said, is kind of fixing. It needs
to be fixed. But I willtell you that some of my best experiences
ever are when I'm just working inthe building. It is just when I'm

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going about my daily routine or waterleak or a work leak, and I've
had spirits whisper in my ear basicallytelling me I'm doing it wrong. I've
had an instance where I was ona ladder and I was on the top
rung because you know, all guyslistened to the instructions that they don't put.
Yeah, I was on the toprung and I felt somebody grabbed the
back of my calf and tell meto be careful. Yeah. So,

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I mean it's kind of neat.I think that once, and a lot
of buildings owners will tell you this. I think once we get really start
diving deep into the building, westart cleaning it up and we start fixing
it up, you know, they'reappreciative of what we're doing and they want
their their presence known. And Ithink that's what's really cool. The building
owners we have an experience. Thereprobably isn't a day that doesn't go by
while walk into one of the twobuildings and something happens, you know,

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whether or not, Like just that. I was an old South Pittsburgh three
weeks ago. I unlocked the frontdoor. I walked in the darting here,
and I'm looking around and going,okay, my staff, you know,
beat me here, And so Iwalk in and realize that I'm the
only one in the building. Therewas a There was an instance where Daniel
and I were on the third floorand we were looking for the water main
and we couldn't find it. AndDaniel is a joke, says, anybody

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you know where the water main is? And from the other end of the
hallway, you hear a voice sayit's over here. And Daniel look at
each other like there's no f andway, and so we walk over to
where we hear the voice, andDaniel picks up one of the ceiling tiles
and there's the water main. Andwhat was really the topper of that was
Daniel says thank you, or Danielsays yeah. Daniel says thank you,
and you hear you're welcome, andfootsteps walk away and both looked at it

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the like so not kind of mebecause, like I said, as a
building owner, I think we myselfand our staff gets a lot more.
We get a lot more because thespirits are really comfortable with us. And
I also think that a lot ofthe building owners out there who are trying
to improve their locations because why don'twe buy these locations? They're in really

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bad shape in most cases, andwhen we're buying them and we're fixing them
up, I think that the residentsrealize, hey, you know, they're
actually trying to improve where we're residing. And I think they feel really appreciative
towards that. And I think that'sone of the reasons why US building owners
are volunteers get such an incredible youknow, we just get such incredible experiences,
right right, That's awesome. Now, Um your turn, I got

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him. I'm all done. Whatdid she got? Now? Um?
Now now your other locations? Letyou do own that that I haven't been
to. Yet. Um the oldhistoric Harriman Hospital. Now, how did
you? How did you come aboutgetting getting that one? So that that
was once again we just kind offell into it. Um. Leanneum is
one of my staff members. Shedoes all my Facebook. Her and Broke

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Um they pretty much manage that didoperations in the building. She had come
across a newspaper clipping that basically saidthat the old Hareman Hospital and downtown Hereman
was about to be destroyed and umto the tune of about twelve point one
million dollars to taxpayers. If anybody'sspending his Hareman Hospital, it is in
the dead. I mean it isa downtown Hereman. I mean you drive

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in and it's there. And soyou know, they wanted to knock it
down. They wanted to turn itinto a parking lot, and like I
said, tax payers would have beenon the hook for about twelve point one
billion dollars UM. So we endedup Leanne made a couple of phone calls
with Brooke and said, hey,you know, this is what we do.
You know, we're pretty experienced atwhat we do. We can bring

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you know a lot of people infrom all over the nation. You know,
it's kind of an injection and taxdollars to the city, to the
community, that kind of stuff,and it's going to save the taxpayers about
twelve point one million dollars to knockit down and make it a parking lot.
They were really apprehensive at first,you know, we talked to city
Hall and it being in the BibleBelt, they were kind of like a
um. It was really funny though. I was I was at I was

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at South Pittsburgh and the police chieffrom South Pittsburgh calls me and this is
this is I love Tennessee is sucha tight knit community. But I get
a call from the from the policechief and he says, hey, Ronnie
said yeah, I says, didyou buy another hospital? And I said,
and this hasn't been led out byanybody. The only three that knew
about it were myself in city Halland Brooke and Lean and we kepped it

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tight lip because we didn't want wedidn't want anybody, you know, get
hearing rumors. We don't want torelease anything until we had a positive result
from the city. So I waslike, how did you hear he chuckles
on the police says it dummy,I'm the police chief. Like. It
was funny because the city of hereactually called the police chief to find out,
you know, how our business ethicswere we paying taxes, you know,

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to the state in the city,you know where we up to date
on this we're up to date inthat or were we keeping our promises to
the city in terms of keeping youknow, the hospital in a nice light
downtown, you know, because likeI said before, it was pretty damaged,
pretty terrible. And the police chiefis like, oh my god.
Yeah, they're planting flowers, they'replanting trees, they're bringing tax for revenue
in, they're doing all these goodthings. And he says, in the

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greatest thing is they're your best neighbors. And and I know the mayor says,
well, why is that? Hesays, because they started six and
they're done at four o'clock in themorning. He says, it's the business
that nobody knows that they're there,right, And they were like, well,
what do you mean? He says, Well, they want quiet.
They do all this stuff, andthe quiet they don't want people. You
know, it's not a party atmosphere. It's not this. And so the
city Hareman' is like, oh,because, like I said, we're downtown,

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in the middle of downtown Hareman.So we sat down again with the
mayor in city Hall and eventually theIndustrial Board, and we gave them a
you know, our what do youcall our business model? Our business plan,
and it took a couple of monthsfor us to get it down and
we signed a like, I don'tknow what you call it, kind of
a lease with them. We didpurchase the building, but the City of
Hareman has the right to buy thebuilding back from us if we didn't keep

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our promises. And so far everypremise we made, we've like asked it
by a million times. The townhappy with us. The city's really happy
with us. Like I said,we're generating a ton of revenue for a
sleepy little town in Hareman. Idon't think they realized how many of us
there are out there, you know, because the parking lot hasn't been utilized
and the building has been closed forthirteen years, so it's been sitting there

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vacant, and all of a suddenlydowntown's got new life to it. The
parking lot's full on a Saturday nightbecause people like yourself are coming down investigating.
Um. Most people don't know this, but we're shooting motion pictures in
the building now. We just shota movie called Stranded down there that that
is going should be out in theaterspretty soon. I really need to see
the Hollywood portion of it. You'reout UM and then I can't. I'll

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let the cant of the bag becauseI'm allowed to, but I can't give
you the dates. If anybody knowswho RAT is, UM the group RAT,
you know they sting round in Yeah, okay, you hear that age
it But I'm musically dysfunctional. Sobut Stephen Percy, one of the players
from Mega Death Pin I think whatis the name pin Face or something like

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that. UM and then one ofthe girls from UM Vampire Diers are all
gonna be able to shoot a movieat the end of this year. And
like I said, one thing thata lot of people don't realize from town
to town is is that the revenuethat we generate on the weekends that you
guys do hotels, food, lodging, you know, all that stuff.

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It's really good. When you're talkingabout these little towns in the middle of
Tennessee or Kentucky, anywhere they are, anywhere, we bring a ton of
money in. That was the thingthat I was pushing when I had Historical
Rescue was the amount of money thatpeople can get can generate just from paranormal
activities, right, incredible, right, Just do you look at one paracon

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we had a little bakery that's actuallykind of kitty corner to the hospital,
and the week that the movie wasthere, she came over to the hospital
after they were done filming. Shesays, I want to tell you guys,
thank you so much, And shewas kind of in tears on like
what's wrong. She says, Idid a year's worth of sales in one
week. Yeah, the amount ofpeople who came through doing the movie,

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because you have to remember we hadprobably one hundred to one hundred and forty
people on set were everything from costumedesigners to everything, you know, and
they bought all local food. Theybought local this, they bought local that.
So then injection for these small littletowns is you know the difference between
a new squad car and them drivinga squad car. Well, you look

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look at Virginia City, Nevada.They completely embrace their paranormal locations and just
go nuts on it. And theamount of revenue they have they don't even
have to do anything else. Imean, taxations so low up there because
they're generating funds and they're able todo repairs. Yeah, it's just amazing.
And like I said, I mean, we're just we're just scratching the

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surface and hereman. Because the buildingsabout one hundred and sixty eight thousand square
feet, so it's a huge building. So I mean, like in another
options down the road to utilize moreof the building, you know, everything's
going to be paranormal, kind ofintertwined. But there's so many things that
we can do with the building.And it's really kind of a neat building
because it was born in nineteen thirtyeight and then its last edition was put

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on the nineteen eighties and they neverchanged anything from addition to edition. So
when you're walking through the thirties andthe fifties, you can see the old
operating rooms of the nineties operating room, and you can see the different eras
and it gives me chills because itwas just such a great fine by Leanne
and we're just we're just so happyto be there and I gotta go.

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And I will tell you after owningOld South Pittsburgh, that building is extremely
active paramans like hold my beer watch, So it's it's kind of neat.
I mean, we have investigators thatare coming out of there, you know,
night after night after night with videosand literally videos of apparitions pictures of

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Yes, oh my gosh, hegot a lady full body apparitions body away.
I thought it was somebody in thehallway. I saw the picture and
scroll back and I went, whatwe did it was amazing. Is we
have a ring camera right there,and we picked him up on the ring
camera as well as the girl pickingthem up on the video recorder. Perfect

(31:53):
we could actually go back. Actually, yes, it was probably one of
the most incredible things I've seen ina long time. But you can see
how he's actually lingering behind the groupof people, and then when the group
of people leave, he's standing therelike where'd you'all go? Like what's going
on? And then she kind ofhands around and you can see him standing
there again, and it's just it'sreally it's it was a great fine So,

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but we've got a picture. Soon the old part of the hospital,
there was a hotel that was thereand it burned down, just like
most of everything in hereman, Butthey said that there were some deaths there.
There were some children deaths and othersshuff Well. We actually one of
our guests came in took a pictureof what we called the city long Block
hallway and it's basically the whole city. You can see a little boy in

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his niggers standing there in the doorwayand kind of looking over to his left,
which is what we kind of madea toy room. It was the
maternity ward, and we've got wehave a raggedy end del you know,
of course, because everybody means Annabellein their hospital, So we have a
raggedy end deal there and a coupleof other things, and you can see
him kind of looking over and thenkind of an outline of a girl is

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standing next to him. Yeah,it's just an amazing catch. And this
is something that is happening regularly.I mean it's not like just one group.
It is like a group after groupafter group that are coming up with
these incredible pictures that we can't debunk. And one of the things that's cool
about a building owner, I think, is that we get the evidence sent

(33:20):
to us, and then what wedo is we go back and I've got
a team of about forty people onmy team who are all anxious because you
know, it's this is their home. They want to be like, oh
this is haunted, or they debunkit, and so we'll kind of get
together and we'll take the camera angles, we'll take the lighting and kind of
see if we can debunk it.And most of the time we're scratching our
head, going there's just unexplainable.That was a paranormal. I don't know

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is that it's a wild but Iwill tell you probably one of the coolest
catches is we had a team thatwas out there. They're very famous YouTubers
that've been around for a while.They were actually they do this thing where
they put a camera in a hallwayand they leave it there for like a
half hour and then they go eitherout from whatever so and music playing,

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and then you can hear giggling andlaughing and they play. It's actually one
of the child's toys that we havein the hospital, and it was almost
like there were kids in the hospitalplaying with one of our toys hospital because
you can see the camera and youcan see everything and there's nobody there.
And then once again, we've gotsecurity cameras in the building, so we

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can validate and verify that whether theyleft, there was nobody in that hospital
playing those toys, and those toyswere playing, So it's really kind of
need. It's like I said,it's a really cool location. I get
really excited talking about it because youknow, it's just it's old. South
Pittsburgh is always near and dear tomy heart. It will always be my
home. But this buildings like we'regonna make We're gonna try and make you

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have this one our favorite hospital andit's just need to take my residence.
Skeptic. I would we had awe had um, I can't think of
his name, Richard to step out. He did a whole Halloween party there,
um because you are not I'm sorry, Christmas party he was there drink
Christmas and uh, absolutely amazing whatthe experience is that they had in the

(35:24):
building. So you said real reallyanxious, and I like when I like
to be surprised. But he's like, we can't tell you. We can't
tell you because it's gonna be inthe buck though. Very nice. I
think i've actually i've actually think I'veseen that video you've talked about. You
were talking about and uh, youmentioned the Destination Fear which are now Project
Fear guy guys and gals. I'llfollow something. Did they go to Projects

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Fear. Yeah, they're Project Fearnow, but they've been they've been to
both Old South and Old Harriman andand I thought the cool cool thing they
captured and the Old Harriman is whenthey had the rim pods set up and
it was like something was running downthe hallway. You can hear the running
and all the broom pods would bewould light up when it would run past.
I look, that was cool assale. And uh so you know

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you said, like Olive Harriman ispretty much haunted. I've investigated the location
there, which I don't think theyallow investigations anymore. Practically right across the
road as the old post office,and that place was was intense. Only
location I've ever been to where threeof us walked out with scratches and uh,
oh wow. It was a littleodd to say the least. You

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know, you walk into a postoffice and come out with scratches on your
neck. So it uh And likeI said, I think they sold the
building, so I don't think they'reallowing stuff like that anymore. But um,
that place was pretty intense. Andthe hospital is on my bucket list.
I know, Uh, what areyour volunteers. I'm pretty good friends
with Chris Williams. He's been he'sbeen hyping it up and let's go.

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We're going. What most people don'tunderstand is Harriman is kind of a cursed
town. We love it, wego there all the time, but if
you actually go back and you lookat the history, it's either burned,
been hit by a tornado, flooded, or and I'm not kidding you,
guys, I think that I think, and I'm not gonna you know,
Land's gonna get mad at me,and Burke's gonna get mad at me,
because they're really the historians. ButI want to say, the high schools

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burned down twice, they had,yeah that hotels have burned down on various
occasions. They had a tornado rippedthrough there, they had flooding in the
twenties. I mean, there's beena ton of loss of life and Harriman
um, it's just just a Idon't know what it's like. It's cursed
and it's really not, but it'sa great And then we're directly a cost

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across from us a little subdivision calledCornstock Heights where they put a haunted walk
on and I will tell you,guys, it was the wildest thing.
So we were actually at a birthdayparty a couple of weeks ago, and
one of the ladies taps me onthe shoulder and she says, you're the
guy who owns the hospital, andI'm like yeah. Just so she takes
us over to her house that's hauntedand it was really wild. She takes

(38:04):
us over there and she's kind ofexplaining everything, blah blah blah. He
said this, we could see thehospital from this house. And so she
goes, you know, we wakeup in the morning and the books,
so the books are out of place, and this is out of place,
and that's out of place, andthen the cabinet doors are open. I'm
like, yeah, okay, whatever, because you usually we can explain it
old house, not level cabinet,you know. So we're there and so

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we decide that we're going to testher theory and we pull out one of
the books and it's a Hareman bookand these two people that were involved,
we're actually doing the Temperance building.The Temperance building he had like a gala
because they're trying to be the KumberanceBuilding back it's kind of the oldest building
still there in Harriman. So wepull the Hareman book out. We're walking
through the house and she's kind oftelling us what's going on and all that
other stuff. We come back downstairs. Remember we're the only ones in the

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house. The books pushed in backinto the book, so I'm like,
whoa. So then she shows usall these cabinet doors that usually open,
and we, you know, doour thing, were walking around. We
come back, all the cabinet doorsare open. Wow, this was all
the time the little time from thatwe were there, and she's like,
oh, yeah, this happens ona regular occasion. So then she was

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like, they have their wedding picturethat's on the wall. The spirit that
lives in the house will actually takeit off the wall and put it on
her chair, which is like rightin front of like a dusk, which
her back is to the picture.And I was like, no way.
So I'm telling her, you know, we're working through all this. I
said, you need to put camerasin here, and you need to give
me the access code so I canwatch this stuff. Right. Yeah.

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Yeah. But as we're talking topeople and Harman, there's a lot of
people who are experiencing all these thingsaround their houses. And it's really funny
because talking to a lot of theresidents. They say that after we opened
up the hospital is when Cornstock Heightseven got more active. It's like there's
a communication thing going on, like, Hey, somebody's here to recognize us,

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so let's let's tell our stories,let's be more and more. And
it's cool because a lot of thesea lot of the homeowners there are actually
embracing it. You know, nobody'safraid that, nobody's running, nobody's So
this lady and gentleman that owned thishouse, they're like, oh, I'm
like, does it bother You're likeno. So she actually woke up one
night in the middle of the nightwith somebody rubbing her arm. And I

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know what I said. I lovewhen I do for a living, but
I'm done when that happens, I'mout of there. Like I just rolled
over and went back to see if. I'm like, yeah, no.
So it's really neat. The wholeCD is kind of involved in the paranormal
now, and I think it's kindof neat. I think as we've been
there and people like yourselves are comingin, we're opening up their experiences and
I think really opening up for theireyes to you know, this isn't coincidental.

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This is somebody reaching out to you. He's got a story to tell
you, or they've got something toshare with you. And open up your
eyes and pay attention because there's somethinggoing on in your house or something going
on in our area that these peoplewon't recognition for whatever happened to them in
their previous life. And they're here. They're here, and they're not going
anywhere until you know, we decipherwhat that That message is so kind of

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tail ending that one the spirits thatare in either one of the hospitals.
Have you ever found a spirit thatwas there for a while and then you
just can't contact them anymore. There'sso Harriman is so unique because we're it
was kind of it was kind ofinvestigated prior to us owning it, because

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you know, people break in,they do investigations. I talked to a
couple of local groups and they're like, oh, this door was open,
so we go in. So theinvestigations there weren't really like they are now
now they're you know, they're continual. And the thing is is that every
investigation we have, we have peoplecoming with names with incidences with you know,
we had one of the most harejerking. I think experiences we had

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at Harriman was we had a ladywho come in into a public investigation and
she was doing EVP work and allthe stuff, and she actually talked to
a dead relative. Oh well,oh EVP. And I was kind of
taken back because I was like,you know, okay, but there were
things in the VP that nobody wouldhave known, like the nickname they called
this girl. She's like, theonly person who knows this is my family.

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And she was like it's kind ofin tears and kind of and and
all that other stuff. And I'mlike, so my first thought was,
oh, no, are you okaywith this? And she left with the
biggest smile, going, Oh mygod, I can't believe that my family
member is happy, you know,they reached out to me and all this
other stuff. And I'm sitting backbecause you know, you can take that
one of two ways. They they'regonna take it kind of like this person's

(42:35):
trap they got nowhere to go,you know, and on the sad part
of it, or are they goingto tell that the living is still doing
okay and they're just kind of overseeingthem. And That's how she took it.
She's like, this was the coolestthing ever. And she's been back
to every public investigation since then,and every public investigation she will have something
come from that loved one, whetherhere or and and so that gets out

(42:55):
in the community. And now wehave people who are like, oh,
yeah, my pappy died there,and I'm like, well, you know,
it's not necessarily there, but youknow, in this situation, it
was just I guessaid. I thinkthat was a pretty touching experience for myself,
my staff, and the young ladywho had that opportunity to reach out
to a you know, a loane. Oh, but it would be community.

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Everybody that's screaming, everybody that's screamingdemons and evil presence and all that.
I'm I am so happy that they'restepping away from that and embracing what
positive things this could be and howit could be helpful to all of us
as a human as humanity. Youknow, we we we made a mistake.

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And you know, and I'm goingto tell you this right off the
bat, you know, we madea mistake. We brought in some extremely
famous YouTubers who went down that pathm and we caught flak about it and
it wasn't something that we did becausepersonally, I don't believe in demons and
devils. I think. You knowI'm going to say right out front,
is that if I'm an asshole inlife, I'm an asshole death. I
Am not going to die and becomeany nicer. I'm probably going to become

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meaner because I didn't want to bedead. You know, I don't want
to be dead, So I don'tbelieve that what we're reaching out to is
demons. Until they can prove mewrong, I'm gonna stick with my theory.
And the other thing too, isis that I've got forty employees who
work for me at my locations aswell as myself. I don't want to
be involved in something like that ifthat's truly out there. But we've got
to the point where we had tochange the whole structure our rock contracts because

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we don't want any of that BISgoing on in our hospital. We don't
want the demon conjuring going on,or you know, the talk of demons
and all their stuff. We wantto be on the other side where we
believe that our residents are on thehospital for a message. You know,
whether like you said, they're talkingto loved ones, or they're they're doing
their routine. Because you have toremember, a hospital is a very specific

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place where people spent a lot oftheir lives, you know, curing people,
all right, So a lot ofpeople call that. A lot of
people don't leave those locations because that'swhere they spent the majority of their life.
And then you know, you havecoming to halls, but you know,
and we're there to kind of helpthem, talk to them and recognize
them. And I think that's what'sreally cool about the paranormal. And like

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I said, when we're going downthe right path as you brought up and
staying away from the demons and devilsand all that malevol and stuff, and
we're actually focusing on the residence andwe're focusing on the positive side of the
normal, I think we're getting alot more and I think you're going to
find and I'm hoping that the paranormalkind of really embraces, like what you

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said, the lighter side of theparanormal instead of the you know, the
demon, the dark and all thatother stuff right, and hopefully get all
the history right on them. Wellthat's really important too, is it's really
important because you know, we didhave, you know, some instances where
we had to shut down lives becauseyou know, they were talking about things
that didn't need to be talked about, and they were you know, they

(45:47):
were bringing things into the community thatI was like, you know, we
don't have any evidence of this everhappening, and I don't want you going
on alive. You know, we'rein a small community where people, like
I said, have called this hospitalhome, they cared about it, and
you're going to start spewing stuff outthere that doesn't need to be said until
we can until we can validate it. Now, we can validate it.
What you came up with is trueand factual. I'm maybe the first one

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to give you a phone call anddo a podcast with you and see,
congratulations, look what you found.You know you. But until that moment
comes, we want to keep thehistory true. It is. He just
jumped in, Mom, must beholme. So he's all excited now,
So oh yeah, moms. Soyou said you do a public investigation once

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a month at each location, Sowhen's when's the next public investigations for people
that might want Yeah, I thinkI've got a luck, but I think
the July seventh is sold out.That's at OSPH. The next one is
July twenty first. I believe it. Oh, it's basically I think it's
the first the first weekend of everymonth or the first Saturday of every month
at OSPH, and it's the thirdSaturday of every month at OH, which

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we call Historic Hereman Hospital. Sowe do them, and then I know,
September first and second, we've gotthe Wraith Chasers back. We love
them. They do such a greatinvestigation. They'll be at They'll be at
OH on September first, and onSeptember second, they'll be at OSP.
But I will tell you, I'vegot to know that the boys really good
and they put are you getting theoriginal crew? We Well, we just

(47:23):
get Mike and Chris. Unfortunately,I don't think that they're I'm the greatest
of all terms. From my understanding, I try not to be part of
that's you know, their their deal. But I know that we've tried to
get them all together in the past, and it's just they're going separate directions
and separate careers in their lives.So I'm good for them. They're all
doing very worry well. Chris andMica are sticking around in the paranormals give

(47:45):
a shout out for great he andNicole. He does. I don't even
know who he was, Okay,I just thought he was a I am
I'm at an octagon hall one dayand he was a realtor. I'm like,
I'll just call this guy. Ihad no idea who he was.

(48:07):
Extremely extremely lovely, lovely, lovelypeople in the world. Ye. There,
they make a great team too.They're key together. If you actually

(48:27):
seen a picture of them together,really cute. Yeah, they look like.
There's Damien He's like he's frozen.Ye, he's just frozen. Yeah,
there he is. So So,if somebody wants to book an investigation
or a tan one of your publicevents to you, where would somebody go?
Great, we go, Yeah,you can go on our website.

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So we have two separate websites.One is OSPHPRC dot com and that's for
the South Pittsburgh Hospital and and forthose of us they're dyslexic. Dyslexic,
how can you do that again?Real? Slow? Oh h e RC
at gmail dot com basically stands forOld Historic No, it stands for Old

(49:12):
South Pittsburgh Hospital Paranormal Research Center.So it's just osph PRC dot com.
Nice. And then and then ifyou want to book Haraman Hareman's really easy.
It's just old historic Haraman Hospital dotcom. Very nice. We abbreviated
one and then the other one wehad to come out really long with,
primarily because it's a new building andwe kind of dessnated the initials, so

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we wanted to make sure that everybodywas aware of. So when you do
a Google church and put harem inhospital and it's going to come up for
you, but it's old Historic HaremanHospital dot com. And then there's tabs
on there so you can actually goto the prices. And I think we
are very cool, very very cool. Yeah, I'll definitely be coming down.

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That's either either I'm going to comedown by myself or all find somebody
to come down with me. ButI'm coming down. If you've got that
much activity, I want to seeit. It's pretty crazy. And even
if you come down alone, we'llhook you up with somebody. At the
public investigations, we're really surprised athow many people actually do come singular,
so up with somebody. The thingswe've been doing, it's kind of cool.

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We do what's called a free realm, So basically you have you can
do whatever you want in the buildingthat we put our investigators kind of in
hot spots that we know are active, and they'll do a little investigation and
you can, you know, youcan hang out with them, do an
investigation with them where you can goto a different part of the building and
be all alone. And I wouldn'trecommend it, but be you know,
all alone by yourself and do aninvestigation on your own. And we find

(50:39):
that that kind of is working outthe best for us. We used to
do like a structured event where wetake everybody, you know, from locational
location, and our biggest complaint wasis that you can't kind of mix like
the serious with the nats serious,you know, and there's some people who
really are involved in this, whoreally get into it. Then you got
somebody's over here is you know,a taco bell and they're talking about out

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how you know, whatever happened lastweekend is they're trying to do EVPs.
So we realize we don't put groupstogether. We just kind of let them
free from and go where they wantto go in the hospital and they can
investigate with who they want whatever,And this allows for every kind of you
know, everything from novice to theexpert investigator come out and do what they
want to do at that specific time. And it's neat because I guess it

(51:22):
JB Coats, if you know JB, She'll be there allot and then our
team will do you know, investigationsand the active locations for about an hour
and then we'll leave that location andkind of go somewhere else, so that
if a group wants to investigate withoutus being there, it's their opportunity to
kind of step in that location,you know, and do what they want
to do. We find that wasreally really successful. It seems to be
working really well for us, andour guests seems to really love it because,

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like I said, they get tokind of kind of do what they
want to do at the time theywant to do it. Okay, perfect.
Yeah, I definitely want to getback to Old South and I definitely
wouldn't hit up Hareman Hospital. That'sa that's kind of up there on my
bucket with a Haremon Hospital. SoI kind of excited. You say to
you, you know, you're you'relooking on a couple of locations in Alabama
and you know, just right heresouth of us. So hopefully you know,

(52:06):
you can land both of those,and I'll give us two more places
we can hit up at some point. We're we're trying real hard, like
I said, we're trying to stavethese historic locations, you know, from
from number number one degregation, butnumber two just becoming a parking lot.
I mean, it seems that alot of this is just one of the
parking lots. And there's a lotof history in these old buildings, you
know, And there's, like Isaid, there's a lot of tax dollars

(52:29):
that can be generated and a lotof these small towns by people like ourselves
who are renting hotel rooms and youknow, buying pizza and buying tickets at
our events because we're subject to salestax, you know, so we're paying
all those taxes as well too.So I mean, it's a great it's
a win win situation for paramount investigatorsbecause we get to keep the history alive
and you get to investigate care normally. And it's a big win for the

(52:49):
cities because we're generating a lot oftax revenue that that was unfounded until groups
like us coming in those locations.So right, you're right, win win
for everybody. And it's a reallyresidents in the locations because now I've got
somebody to talk to. Right theroofs are caming it in and this is
going on, and they're play ontheir flums and you know, groups like

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I was coming in like, oh, fresh meat, let's talk to these
guys right right, right right foreverybody? Absolutely, that's awesome. All
right, what Keyley, you haveanything else for him? I'm I think
I'm pretty much done. Alright.You want to talk about Vanderbilt University.
Oh that's a sore subject in myhousehold. We got to remove that from

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your profile too. Ye oh we'reRonnie, I really fresh? Nothing more
do you? I think I'm good. I think I'll touched them on everything
I wanted to, so very good. Well, thanks guys for having me
on here. All right, absolutelyappreciate you coming on it. So everybody
go go check out old Historic CaramanHospital, Old South Pittsburgh Hospital, Public

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Investigations, private investigations, they doit all. Go go and go support
these guys and check these hospitals out. So go support the town of Heramid
Well. Thank you. In thelong run, trust me absolutely, all
right, everybody, Thank everybody forjoining us this week. Ronnie, thank
you again, and Kelly we'll catchyou next week. Thank you.