August 29, 2024 • 34 mins
Join us on this week's episode of Life Beyond Six Feet as we chat with paranormal author V.S. Lawrence about her love for horror and some of her favorite books and movies in the genre. V.S. also shares some of her own personal paranormal experiences that will send chills down your spine. And, we discuss her debut book, 80s Ghosts, a totally tubular tale that's been receiving stellar reviews for its unique blend of retro nostalgia and spine-tingling terror. Tune in for a fascinating conversation with this rising star in the paranormal literary scene.
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Welcome everyone to Life Beyond six Feet. I'm Damian Christie
from Spooky South five zero seven and today I have
a first guest of the show, Spooky author Vs. Lawrence Vanessa.
Welcome to Life Beyond six Feet.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Thank you so much for having.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Me absolutely and for those that may not know, you
have written a very paranormally book and it actually caught
my attention. I think I've seen maybe an ad on
Instagram and it was very eye catching with the cover
and the colors. So that's, uh, that's kind of how
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I found you, and I was like, that's a really
just the cover alone really stands out. And we'll get
into that in just a few minutes, but first, like me,
you're into like the spooky stuff, that the scary stuff.
So kind of what got you into like all the spooky,
paranormal Halloween type stuff growing up?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You know, It's kind of funny. When I was little,
I was terrified of Halloween. I remember fighting my mom
being like, I don't want to go trick or treating.
People are out there who are scary. I don't want
to do this. But I'm not entirely sure when it happened.
I just know probably in my teens, I started reading
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Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles, and I think that was kind
of the thing that got me into it. When I
was a little younger, I did read all the goosebumps,
but that's not scary scary. I was able to do it.
But yeah, and so I think it was in my
teens that first it was vampires, and then it was
just everything I could get my hands on that was
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scary and spooky. And I'm still scared of everything, but
I'm managing it now, right.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, I guess everybody has to start somewhere, Like, I
don't remember ever really being scared of stuff as a kid,
Like I've always remembered like really being into it. But
I really got into it in adulthood. Mm hmmm, like
really got into the horror movies and and all the
spooky stuff. I mean, I've got Freddy and Jason and
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skulls and all kinds of stuff tattooed over my arms.
So you mentioned Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles. What's some some
of the horror stuff you really really got into after that?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, Stephen King, It's like the Gateway drug too, right.
But I also love I love the Freddy series. Like
Freddy is probably one of my favorites. He's he's amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But yeah, I think it's just I'm definitely more on
the lighter side of spooky. I I don't like anything.
I saw Human Centipede and that's just not for me.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I just never wanted to see that. It didn't it
didn't pique my interest.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I'm like, I don't think, no, that was all. That
was a big mistake on my part. But yeah, so
I like things that are a little more campy. Just
give me all of the classics, you know, Michael and
Freddy and Jason. Jason definitely just an exit hilarious it is.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, the older horror movies, especially there in the early
the eighties early nineties, those are, in my opinion, probably
some of the best ones they've come out with because
because nowadays, it's because nowadays it's all the same stuff,
just pretty much recycled over and over. It's like it's
almost like Hollywood can't come up with anything new.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I mean you occasionally get one here and there that's
that's kind of like, oh, holy shit, that was really good,
and then it goes back to like, uh, I was
like I've seen this before, so yeah, so what would
you say it is your favorite in the Freddy's genre, Like,
I know, my my my personal favorite. I want to
see if it's the same.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I mean, I think I love the first I like,
I like a classic. I like just the og. The
remake of the first movie wasn't exactly for me.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah I wouldn't. I mean, the remake wasn't terrible. I
didn't like how they changed.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
His backstory, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Like it's like they tried to make you hate the character,
and it's like, my personal favorite is Part three. I think.
I think everybody's favorites is either the first one or
the third one. Yeah, I see, like number one for
me is probably like my probably fifth favorite one, which
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is really weird, I guess to some people because like
New Nightmare. I love New Nightmare. That's like, yeah, that's
my my second favorite one in the series. And yeah,
Number one, like it's good, but I don't know, it
almost seems too campy for me. I guess, I don't know,
it's weird.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I love the camp So you know that's probably like.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Now, when when we were chatting just kind of getting
this thing set up, i'd ask if you've ever had
any paranormal experiences, and you said you have, So let's
let's talk about that for a couple of minutes. What's
some stuff you've experienced during your lifetime.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I have never had anything crazy happen yet yet, but
yet I remember my very first experience. I was probably
about seven, and I was playing in the basement of
my old house and I saw the doorknob to the
garage start to move, and I freaked out and I
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ran and got my dad and he came down with
his little baby gun and checked the whole house. There
was nobody there, So I think that's the first thing
that was like, oh my gosh, that was That was freaky, right.
But in this current house I'm living in, I've definitely
had some some spooky things happened. I had another doorknob
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turning thing happen when I was in the bathroom, and
I ended up staying in the bathroom for probably like
an hour after it happened, just too scared to come out.
And I have seen at the end of my hallway,
we have a full length mirror, like on the way
to the bathroom, and I never look in that mirror
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because one time I did see like a seven foot
tall shadow figure over my shoulder, And that's another time
I was like, I'm not coming out of this bathroom
for a minute because I don't want to see whatever
that was. I'm big into like debunking. So the next morning,
when the sun came out and it was not so scary,
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I looked around to see if there was anything that
could have made that shape behind me, and there wasn't
anything I could see, So that one was. That one
was fun and spooky. Oh I didn't look in that mirror.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I mean, it definitely is kind of shocking when you're
not expecting to see something like that, especially in your
own home and lock by yourself. So like, what was
your initial reaction when you've seen this tall shadow that
you had no idea where the hell it came from.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I mean my first thought was Nope, I don't want
to deal with this. Like I did say, I am
a big scaredy cat, which is kind of funny coming
from someone who loves the horror genre and everything spooky,
But I am a big scaredy cat. So yeah, my
initial reaction to these kinds of things is just to say, uh,
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I don't want to deal with this. I'm going to
hide under my blanket. I don't want to deal with this,
so yeah, that's kind of my default reaction.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
So would you ever go on a paranormal investigation?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yes, because even though I am scared, I want to
do it. Oh we dropped out.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, you like froze on me for a second. I
don't know if I was my end or ear end,
so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You're just kind of went black for a second. So
hopefully it's not whatever's here.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But I mean, I'm at my mom's house because I
have very terrible internet at my house, so I have
to go somewhere else to do these interviews. And we've
had spooky shit happen here too, so oh good. My
co host on Beer Booze and Boogeyman they actually called
me like a ghost magnet. It's pretty much everywhere I've
lived and everywhere I've worked, I've had experience in some
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kind of experience. So I don't know if I just
really am like some kind of a magnet for this
stuff or I just you know, I'm lucky, as you
could say. But yeah, pretty much ever where I've ever
lived or worked, I've had some type of experience, whether
just a one time thing or like all the time.
So it may have been on my end, So who knows.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I know that there are people who are definitely magnets.
My sister is one of them. Same with her anywhere
she moves, she's got stuff to deal with. But so
that's fun for you.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Guys, I guess to an extent, you kind of get
used to it. Like for me, stuff doesn't really happen
to the point where like I've got to move or
I've got to find another job, or I've got to
get a priest to come in and like exercise my house.
It's just like, oh that door opened by itself. Huh
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was it closed all the way? Do the air conditioning
just turn on? Like I'm a big debunker too, So
before I just run away from it, I go towards it,
trying to figure out why it happened. And then if
I can't figure it out, I'm like, Okay, maybe that
was something. And we do the same thing because because
you know, I have my own paranormal team, we do
the same thing during investigations, right like before we put
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it out there, like we'll try to debunk it in
the moment on camera. That way, if we can't figure
it out, if we do put it out like okay,
well we debunked this, we know what it was. Or
it's on camera you see us trying to debunk. If
we can't figure out what the hell happened, maybe somebody
watching can figure it out.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Because you know, we're not engineers or carpenters or scientists.
You know, we don't know all the natural things that
could be called stuff. I think we know some of
the basic stuff. But yeah, So if you ever went
on a paranormal investigation, would you want to do like
one with just you and a few of your friends
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or would you like to do a public woman where
there's way more people.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
M that's a tough one. I I'd probably want to
just do it with friends. I feel like a smaller
group you have less chance of some random person sneezing
and not admitting that they needs right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
The public events can be fun, yeah, if you're not
if you're just wanting, like say, the experience, but if
you're wanting to actually go in there and actually do it.
I tell everybody stay away from public events because, like
you said, you're going to have so many people, you're
not going to know if that was something paranormal or
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if it was somebody down the hall that just dropped
their flashlight. You know, you're not going to really know
what it is. So I've done a couple of public
events and it's just so chaotic with so many people,
and plus you don't know. Even though a lot of
these places tell you, you know, wigie boards aren't allowed,
this isn't allowed, and do you separate and they let
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you go on your own, you don't know what these
people are doing. Yeah, and you know, I don't want
to bring any negative stuff home with me to my
wife and kids and all that stuff. So I'm like,
at least when I go in and do it, I know,
but I'm not doing that stuff. So yeah, So, how
how did you just get into it? To writing books?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
These spooky books you're you're starting to write? How did
you get into that?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I used to write a lot when I was younger,
and then my twenties hit and reading and writing just
kind of went out the window. But it was about
i'd say twenty twenty one. I needed a break from
being a caretaker, and so I took a solo vacation
to a remote cabin in Vermont, and I stayed there
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by myself for two weeks, and I was like, you
know what, I'd like to write a book. I would
really like to get back into writing. So I actually
wrote two other books that were not good. They're just
in the trash right now. And then I started writing
Eighties ghosts when I woke up in the middle of
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the night and I smelled hairspray, and I was like,
maybe interesting if there was a story about ghosts from
the eighties and that they were around because you could
smell their hairspray, right. I was like, Okay, so that's
a fun idea, and I just started going with it
and it's been a blast.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
So yeah, that that that is a definitely a different
smell because normally when you hear a phantom smells, it
seems you like a perfume or like a cigar something
like that. So that's that's a different twist on it.
So that's uh So, why why the eighties is because
of your love for the eighties horror or just why
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the eighties?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's just such a fun decade, like the music, the hair,
the fashion, like the movies. Of course, everything was just very,
very fun, and so yeah, I think that, and also
just the I loved the idea of someone who passed
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in the eighties would probably have the smell of hairspray
and that's how you would know that they were around,
And I was just that would be so much fun.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Right, So, without without giving away too much about the book,
because I'd rather people buy it and Neil support you. So,
what's the the basic concept of the book, Like, what's
the book about.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
So it's set in two thousand and nine when YouTube
was just starting to really become a thing that people
could get famous through. And it's about a trio of
ghost hunters and they are trying to create a viral
ghost hunting show on YouTube. They have not had much success,
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and none of the places that they have investigated thus
far have been haunted, so they've kind of had to
create their own hauntings in the process, and their finances
are not so good. They kind of everything is hinging
on like the next couple of investigations. So when our
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main character, Chrissy gets an email for someone in the
next state saying that there's a high school that they
take care of, it burned down in the eighties. There
are definitely spirits in this high school? Will you please
come and investigate? She's super excited. She's like, we need
to make this huge. This is like everything's going to
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write on this. We've got to make sure that it's good.
Bring all of our tricks if we need to. But
I think it's pretty good chances that there's going to
be an actual ghost in this location. So she and
her team pack up, they head out there, and things
start to unravel pretty quickly, and her team starts acting
a little weird, and yeah, things just kind of escalate
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from there.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Now, how did you come up with the cover of this, because,
like I said, it's very eye catching, very eighties style
with the with the hot neon pink, And how did
you come up with the cover? Because that's what caught
my attention. Initially I was like, well, that's very bright,
and then I got to rescue. This sounds kind of interesting.
Let's trick this out.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So yeah, I looked high and low trying to find
the perfect cover designer because I knew I wanted it
to have a certain vibe. It's eighties, it's ghosts, you know,
it has to be super bold and fun. And I
actually discovered my cover designer and her company is we
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We Got You Covered Book design and everyone should go
look out at her stuff because she's amazing, fantastic. Just
knocked this out of the park. All I told her.
I gave her the blurb for the book and I said,
I want bright colors. I definitely want pink, it's my
favorite color. But other than that, go for it. And
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she knocked it out of the park. As soon as
I got the proof, I was just like, nothing needs
to be changed. That's perfect, amazing. So I feel super
luck you to have founder. I've got her land up
for my next book, which is exciting.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
So well, like I said, it's definitely an eye catching
uh book cover, And and that's what you want on
anything you do. You want something to grab somebody's attention
so they will catch it and be like, Okay, well
what's what is this about? Because this is this has
caught my attention and the cover definitely does that. So
if you're looking online or you catch it on Instagram
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or see it in a bookstore, that's going to draw
your attention and you're gonna want to be You're you're
going to want to pick it up and check out
and see what it's about. So uh, props to her
for coming up with something so so eye catching like that.
So and so, obviously you've written the one book you said,
You've written a couple of authors that you kind of
tossed out, So obviously there's more plans for other books,
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as you've already kind of touched on what what is
your next book going to be about? Without giving away
too much about it?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
The next one is going to be an all girls
summer camp slasher, and it has a little bit of
a twist which I won't spoil because I'm so excited
about it, but I can't tell anyone, which is awful
but also very right. I've got that one planned. I've
got something that's also a little more goose Bumps esque
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coming that's kind of about a haunted pumpkin field and yeah,
that should be so much fun too. I like the
vibes for it in my head, so I'm hoping I
can translate that. But yeah, so I've definitely got a
bunch of ideas that are turning around up there, and
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I just hope I can write them fast enough.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That's that's always. Uh. I guess the biggest downfall is
finding the time to actually sit down and do it,
because I've tried several times myself to put all my
personal experiences to paper, and you know, cause I've been
experienced stuff since I was like three years old, so
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i have a lot to talk about. And I'm like,
you know, even if it's just one hundred pages, you know,
m hmm, that's still, you know, a short book. And
I'm like, I could easily do one hundred pages. So
you know, I'll sit down and I'll get into type
and stuff. And the last time i'd done it, I
think I got maybe what I would think would probably
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be about six pages done. I was like, right, I'm
done for the day. I'll pick this back up tomorrow.
And tomorrow has never come. Yeah, and that was like
two years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Oh, it's rough finding the time and the motivations.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I don't think I have. I thought I had saved
it on a flask drive, and if I did, I
can't find it anywhere. So I'm like, because of the
way I had everything boorded sent it really good, and
I'm like, now if I can't find that, i gotta
start completely over. And I've even tried to sit down
and write just a totally you know, fiction book. And
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I got about ten pages into that, I had a
title for it, I had characters already made. I did
say I did find that on my old laptop about
a month ago, so I'm like, that's still kind of there.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Ice.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So like it was gonna be called when hell how's Oh,
it was gonna be about this, about this dude who
is pretty much haunted and tortured by this but by
the spirit of a witch nice like he's hearing all
that he gets. He comes he comes home, and he's
hearing all this stuff, and he hears a dog barking
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in his house and he got to realizing, Okay, my
dog's right here beside me. I better go check this out.
Walks inside, finds where the sound's coming from, opens a
closet door, and finds his dog, like completely dismembered. Oh no,
and he looks over and like his dog, but he
thought it was a dog, okay, like turned into something else,
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and like he hauls asked out of his house. And
it's like I had a really cool story in my
head and I banged, you know, six seven pages out
and then just stopped. And that was like ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
So I am all for you writing this because now
I want to know how it ends.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Like I said, it's just one of those things where
I have to have the time. Yeah, because with what
I what I do for work, you know, I work
forty eight fifty hours a week, come home, you know,
to a wife and three kids. And when I actually
have a day off and I tell myself, I'm not
gonna do anything today whatsoever, I'm constantly going like I can't.
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It's like I can't sit still, like I just gotta
I gotta be going, gotta be going, gotta be going.
So maybe one day I'll actually stop and just say, Okay,
I'm gonna take a few days. Everybody leave me alone.
I want to do this. So, so when is your
next book? What? When? When do you have? Do you
have an expected release date for that or or a
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timeline you're hoping to have it out by.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
It'll probably be next May. I am still writing and
working on that, but and it'll be a fun summer read.
I figure that gives me enough time and if if
I don't get distracted, then hopefully i'll have the Pumpkin
one out by next fall. So it'll be a lot
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to try and do that, but uh yeah, let's just
hope I don't get too distracted.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And well, the other ones already, they both sound intriguing already,
and I don't even know anything about it, like a
haunted pumpkin field. That's completely different, Like you don't you
wouldn't think of something like that, Like when you think
of outdoors, you think more more or less of a
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haunted forest or haunted lake. But that sounds interesting, and
if it has a goose bumpus bumpish type feel to it,
I'm all for it because I love those books.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
As a kid, was so good, Like I still have
my entire collection over there, just I.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Wish, I wish I did. I had damn near all
of them, and then I got when I got older
and moved out, I don't read those anymore, and I
found myself buying some off eBay and going to use bookstores.
So I have a few of them, but not not
like I used to.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Oh, did you have a favorite?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
My favorite was Ghost Beach?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Nice, Yes, that.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Was I don't that. I was always more into the haunted,
the more of the ghost ones more than the the
dummy ones or stuff. Like, I was always more drawn
to the ghost ones, but that was my absolute favorite
one Night in Horrorland. I love that one. So I've
actually got a shirt put that on it, so that's awesome.
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That was one of my favorite ones. The Werewolf of
fever Swamp always really stuck out to me. The earlier
ones I really liked. As he kept writing, they kind
of got a little bit more far fetched, and I did.
I did really like the ones he did there towards
the end where you kind of choose where you wanted
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what you wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yes, I love choose your own adventure books. They are
so much fun.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So it's like, go to page twenty if you want
to save this person, or go to page fifty two
if you want to let them leave, And I'm like,
and I would always go back like I'm like, which,
which do I really want to do? So yeah, those
are always fun and maybe hell, maybe that's something you
could do down the road too.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
You never know, No, I would love to. I feel
like the brain power to be able to figure out
how to do that, right. I think my brain works
that way.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
So if somebody wanted to sit down and write a book,
whether it's about their life something totally made up. What
advice would you give them to accomplish that?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
You just just do it. I waited so long when
I went, like when I started college, I wanted to
go into English, I was like, I'm going to be
an author, and a lot of people are like, you
can't make money doing that. You know, that's not a
viable career path to something better, and I tried, so
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I wish I had started earlier. So just doing it
is really the way to go. Even if you can
only sit down for five minutes or you can only
get two sentences done to a day, just plug away at
it little by little, and the more you write, the
better it will get. And the more you read, the
better it will get. So reading as much as you
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can and writing as much as allowed, just do it.
Like it's super fun and even if you never put
it out for the world, it's a huge accomplishment to
write a book or a memoir. It's huge and like
something very much to be proud of. So yeah, I mean,
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I wish I had told myself back in the day,
like just ignore what everyone said and just just write.
Have fun. So I guess that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Right, I mean, that's definitely solid advice because you know
people like me who just keep putting it off and
putting it off and putting it off, and I'm like, like,
I really want to do it, but I don't have time.
But finding your time is always the biggest issue, at
least for me, Like even when I was single, Like
I just never felt like I had the time to
sit down and do it because one, I worked all
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the time. By the time you get home, I don't
do anything. Yeah, it's just I don't know. I've had
several people. I've had several people tell me. I've had
several tell me like, you need to finish what you've
been writing. So I'm like, maybe one day.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I know a lot of people dictate while they're driving,
so you know, if you've got to commute to work,
just put your phone on record and just tell your
stories to your phone. And that's a I couldn't do
that because I am so bad at talking. I am
always stumbling over what I say and I'm like, oh,
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I could have said that better, like so much better.
So but it works for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Never actually thought of that. But I don't have a
very long drive to work. So it's like I have
maybe a fifteen minute drive, so.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I mean fifteen minutes. You could say a few words, right,
just to belate it slowly, right.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
So, do you have anything coming up? Any kind of
conventions you might be going to, or book signings you
may be be be be at or anything like that,
anything upcoming.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Not yet. I'm hoping that in the next couple of years,
once I have a few more books under my belt,
I will start doing that. I am super excited though,
because I am going to a writing retreat in Salem
this hall. I'm going to be staying at the Hawthorne Hotel,
which is apparently quite haunted, so I may have some
fun stories after that. I'm hoping. I've requested to be
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on the sixth floor, which is apparently the most haunted.
So fingers crossed.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You might have to take you a couple of pieces
of paranormal equipment with you, just to kind of you know,
get you a recorder and yeah, get you something some
of some of the little led cat balls mm hmm,
so just just see what happens.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to. I'll have to connect with
some of my ghost hunting people around me and see
if they've gone anything I can take with them.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah. Like I said, the simplest thing you could have
during an investigation, and probably the best piece other than
your your own feelings and senses of stuff, would be
a digital recorder mm hm, because you're you're more likely
to capture an EVP than you are to actually capture
something on film.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
The only downfall is, say you keep that recorder going
all night is sitting down and listen to the eight
hours of you sleeping to help you capture something. So
but uh, that should be fun. And and and Salem.
That's really awesome.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
That's on the old bucket list for me to make
it up there one day, even if I don't go
up there to do any kind of investigating, just to
go there and experience the town itself is It's definitely
on the bucket list. And my wife wants to check.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It out too, So yeah, definitely, I've definitely wanted to
go there for a long time. And I'm stoked.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Now if people want to buy eighties Ghost, how can
they go about doing that.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It is available on Amazon as a paperback ebook, and
it's on Kindle unlimited it's also being sold through like
Barnes and Noble, and I'm not sure all of the
other small bookstores online that it's available. And also, if
you want assigned copy, I have a link in my
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bio on Instagram or threads where you can go to
my link tree and there's a link a link for
my website where you can buy assigned copy. So yeah,
it's kind of available out there, and it's doing better
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than I ever expected. So I'm so grateful for everyone
who has given it a chance. I know it's hard
to pick up a book from an unknown author, right,
you know. Uh, so I'm just so grateful that people
have been interested and enjoyed it and had fun. That's right.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Well, I did check out a couple of reviews, and
so far I've seen a lot of positive reviews for it,
so that's that's always a good thing. Yeah, And uh
and of course, you know, you got to take into
an account that it may not be for everybody, so
you may get that negative review here and there, but yeah,
for every bad review, there's going to be ten ten
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good reviews, so you got to take the good with
the bad. Yeah, absolutely, So other than Instagram and your
website or you on any other social media where people
can look you up and follow that with your journey.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I'm on threads where I post more like milestones and
writing updates. I just started a Facebook page, which I'm
terrible at, but I tried to post there occasionally. But yeah,
I'm mostly active on Instagram and so yeah, anyone can
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find me there if they're interested, and if not, that's
cool too.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
All right, Well, I really enjoyed chatting with you and
get to know you a little bit, and I look
forward to checking out your book. I'll have to figure
out a way to get it in my hands here soon,
so I will.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I'm happy to send you a copy.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
That would be amazing. Yeah, so everybody be sure to
check out Vanessa vs. Lawrence since there is another Vanessa
Lawrence vs. Lawrence's book, Eighties Ghost. Easiest way to find it,
it's probably just typing Eighties Ghost in Google, and it's
probably gonna pop up every way you can buy it,
everywhere you can locate it, So that's probably the probably
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the quickest way, I would say, probably the easiest way.
Just just google it and just check out that cover.
If the cover catches your attention by the book, support
miss miss Lawrence in her endeavors. There it is right there.
See that's just an eye catching, just a I caching cover.
It's so red I dig it. I love it alright.
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So everybody be sure to go check her out, follow
her along on Instagram, check out her Facebook even though
she's not too good at keeping up with her right now,
and by her book. So everybody, Vanessa, thank you so
much for being.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Here, Thank you so much for having me on. It's
been a blast.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Absolutely everybody will catch you next time, and stay spooky.
Welcome everyone to Life Beyond six Feet. I'm Damian Christie
from Spooky South five zero seven and today I have
a first guest of the show, Spooky author Vs. Lawrence Vanessa.
Welcome to Life Beyond six Feet.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Thank you so much for having.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Me absolutely and for those that may not know, you
have written a very paranormally book and it actually caught
my attention. I think I've seen maybe an ad on
Instagram and it was very eye catching with the cover
and the colors. So that's, uh, that's kind of how
(01:12):
I found you, and I was like, that's a really
just the cover alone really stands out. And we'll get
into that in just a few minutes, but first, like me,
you're into like the spooky stuff, that the scary stuff.
So kind of what got you into like all the spooky,
paranormal Halloween type stuff growing up?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You know, It's kind of funny. When I was little,
I was terrified of Halloween. I remember fighting my mom
being like, I don't want to go trick or treating.
People are out there who are scary. I don't want
to do this. But I'm not entirely sure when it happened.
I just know probably in my teens, I started reading
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Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles, and I think that was kind
of the thing that got me into it. When I
was a little younger, I did read all the goosebumps,
but that's not scary scary. I was able to do it.
But yeah, and so I think it was in my
teens that first it was vampires, and then it was
just everything I could get my hands on that was
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scary and spooky. And I'm still scared of everything, but
I'm managing it now, right.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, I guess everybody has to start somewhere, Like, I
don't remember ever really being scared of stuff as a kid,
Like I've always remembered like really being into it. But
I really got into it in adulthood. Mm hmmm, like
really got into the horror movies and and all the
spooky stuff. I mean, I've got Freddy and Jason and
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skulls and all kinds of stuff tattooed over my arms.
So you mentioned Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles. What's some some
of the horror stuff you really really got into after that?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, Stephen King, It's like the Gateway drug too, right.
But I also love I love the Freddy series. Like
Freddy is probably one of my favorites. He's he's amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But yeah, I think it's just I'm definitely more on
the lighter side of spooky. I I don't like anything.
I saw Human Centipede and that's just not for me.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I just never wanted to see that. It didn't it
didn't pique my interest.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I'm like, I don't think, no, that was all. That
was a big mistake on my part. But yeah, so
I like things that are a little more campy. Just
give me all of the classics, you know, Michael and
Freddy and Jason. Jason definitely just an exit hilarious it is.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, the older horror movies, especially there in the early
the eighties early nineties, those are, in my opinion, probably
some of the best ones they've come out with because
because nowadays, it's because nowadays it's all the same stuff,
just pretty much recycled over and over. It's like it's
almost like Hollywood can't come up with anything new.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I mean you occasionally get one here and there that's
that's kind of like, oh, holy shit, that was really good,
and then it goes back to like, uh, I was
like I've seen this before, so yeah, so what would
you say it is your favorite in the Freddy's genre, Like,
I know, my my my personal favorite. I want to
see if it's the same.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I mean, I think I love the first I like,
I like a classic. I like just the og. The
remake of the first movie wasn't exactly for me.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah I wouldn't. I mean, the remake wasn't terrible. I
didn't like how they changed.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
His backstory, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Like it's like they tried to make you hate the character,
and it's like, my personal favorite is Part three. I think.
I think everybody's favorites is either the first one or
the third one. Yeah, I see, like number one for
me is probably like my probably fifth favorite one, which
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is really weird, I guess to some people because like
New Nightmare. I love New Nightmare. That's like, yeah, that's
my my second favorite one in the series. And yeah,
Number one, like it's good, but I don't know, it
almost seems too campy for me. I guess, I don't know,
it's weird.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I love the camp So you know that's probably like.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Now, when when we were chatting just kind of getting
this thing set up, i'd ask if you've ever had
any paranormal experiences, and you said you have, So let's
let's talk about that for a couple of minutes. What's
some stuff you've experienced during your lifetime.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I have never had anything crazy happen yet yet, but
yet I remember my very first experience. I was probably
about seven, and I was playing in the basement of
my old house and I saw the doorknob to the
garage start to move, and I freaked out and I
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ran and got my dad and he came down with
his little baby gun and checked the whole house. There
was nobody there, So I think that's the first thing
that was like, oh my gosh, that was That was freaky, right.
But in this current house I'm living in, I've definitely
had some some spooky things happened. I had another doorknob
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turning thing happen when I was in the bathroom, and
I ended up staying in the bathroom for probably like
an hour after it happened, just too scared to come out.
And I have seen at the end of my hallway,
we have a full length mirror, like on the way
to the bathroom, and I never look in that mirror
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because one time I did see like a seven foot
tall shadow figure over my shoulder, And that's another time
I was like, I'm not coming out of this bathroom
for a minute because I don't want to see whatever
that was. I'm big into like debunking. So the next morning,
when the sun came out and it was not so scary,
(07:31):
I looked around to see if there was anything that
could have made that shape behind me, and there wasn't
anything I could see, So that one was. That one
was fun and spooky. Oh I didn't look in that mirror.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I mean, it definitely is kind of shocking when you're
not expecting to see something like that, especially in your
own home and lock by yourself. So like, what was
your initial reaction when you've seen this tall shadow that
you had no idea where the hell it came from.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I mean my first thought was Nope, I don't want
to deal with this. Like I did say, I am
a big scaredy cat, which is kind of funny coming
from someone who loves the horror genre and everything spooky,
But I am a big scaredy cat. So yeah, my
initial reaction to these kinds of things is just to say, uh,
(08:25):
I don't want to deal with this. I'm going to
hide under my blanket. I don't want to deal with this,
so yeah, that's kind of my default reaction.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
So would you ever go on a paranormal investigation?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yes, because even though I am scared, I want to
do it. Oh we dropped out.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, you like froze on me for a second. I
don't know if I was my end or ear end,
so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You're just kind of went black for a second. So
hopefully it's not whatever's here.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But I mean, I'm at my mom's house because I
have very terrible internet at my house, so I have
to go somewhere else to do these interviews. And we've
had spooky shit happen here too, so oh good. My
co host on Beer Booze and Boogeyman they actually called
me like a ghost magnet. It's pretty much everywhere I've
lived and everywhere I've worked, I've had experience in some
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kind of experience. So I don't know if I just
really am like some kind of a magnet for this
stuff or I just you know, I'm lucky, as you
could say. But yeah, pretty much ever where I've ever
lived or worked, I've had some type of experience, whether
just a one time thing or like all the time.
So it may have been on my end, So who knows.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I know that there are people who are definitely magnets.
My sister is one of them. Same with her anywhere
she moves, she's got stuff to deal with. But so
that's fun for you.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Guys, I guess to an extent, you kind of get
used to it. Like for me, stuff doesn't really happen
to the point where like I've got to move or
I've got to find another job, or I've got to
get a priest to come in and like exercise my house.
It's just like, oh that door opened by itself. Huh
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was it closed all the way? Do the air conditioning
just turn on? Like I'm a big debunker too, So
before I just run away from it, I go towards it,
trying to figure out why it happened. And then if
I can't figure it out, I'm like, Okay, maybe that
was something. And we do the same thing because because
you know, I have my own paranormal team, we do
the same thing during investigations, right like before we put
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it out there, like we'll try to debunk it in
the moment on camera. That way, if we can't figure
it out, if we do put it out like okay,
well we debunked this, we know what it was. Or
it's on camera you see us trying to debunk. If
we can't figure out what the hell happened, maybe somebody
watching can figure it out.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Because you know, we're not engineers or carpenters or scientists.
You know, we don't know all the natural things that
could be called stuff. I think we know some of
the basic stuff. But yeah, So if you ever went
on a paranormal investigation, would you want to do like
one with just you and a few of your friends
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or would you like to do a public woman where
there's way more people.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
M that's a tough one. I I'd probably want to
just do it with friends. I feel like a smaller
group you have less chance of some random person sneezing
and not admitting that they needs right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
The public events can be fun, yeah, if you're not
if you're just wanting, like say, the experience, but if
you're wanting to actually go in there and actually do it.
I tell everybody stay away from public events because, like
you said, you're going to have so many people, you're
not going to know if that was something paranormal or
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if it was somebody down the hall that just dropped
their flashlight. You know, you're not going to really know
what it is. So I've done a couple of public
events and it's just so chaotic with so many people,
and plus you don't know. Even though a lot of
these places tell you, you know, wigie boards aren't allowed,
this isn't allowed, and do you separate and they let
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you go on your own, you don't know what these
people are doing. Yeah, and you know, I don't want
to bring any negative stuff home with me to my
wife and kids and all that stuff. So I'm like,
at least when I go in and do it, I know,
but I'm not doing that stuff. So yeah, So, how
how did you just get into it? To writing books?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
These spooky books you're you're starting to write? How did
you get into that?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I used to write a lot when I was younger,
and then my twenties hit and reading and writing just
kind of went out the window. But it was about
i'd say twenty twenty one. I needed a break from
being a caretaker, and so I took a solo vacation
to a remote cabin in Vermont, and I stayed there
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by myself for two weeks, and I was like, you
know what, I'd like to write a book. I would
really like to get back into writing. So I actually
wrote two other books that were not good. They're just
in the trash right now. And then I started writing
Eighties ghosts when I woke up in the middle of
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the night and I smelled hairspray, and I was like,
maybe interesting if there was a story about ghosts from
the eighties and that they were around because you could
smell their hairspray, right. I was like, Okay, so that's
a fun idea, and I just started going with it
and it's been a blast.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
So yeah, that that that is a definitely a different
smell because normally when you hear a phantom smells, it
seems you like a perfume or like a cigar something
like that. So that's that's a different twist on it.
So that's uh So, why why the eighties is because
of your love for the eighties horror or just why
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the eighties?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's just such a fun decade, like the music, the hair,
the fashion, like the movies. Of course, everything was just very,
very fun, and so yeah, I think that, and also
just the I loved the idea of someone who passed
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in the eighties would probably have the smell of hairspray
and that's how you would know that they were around,
And I was just that would be so much fun.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Right, So, without without giving away too much about the book,
because I'd rather people buy it and Neil support you. So,
what's the the basic concept of the book, Like, what's
the book about.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
So it's set in two thousand and nine when YouTube
was just starting to really become a thing that people
could get famous through. And it's about a trio of
ghost hunters and they are trying to create a viral
ghost hunting show on YouTube. They have not had much success,
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and none of the places that they have investigated thus
far have been haunted, so they've kind of had to
create their own hauntings in the process, and their finances
are not so good. They kind of everything is hinging
on like the next couple of investigations. So when our
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main character, Chrissy gets an email for someone in the
next state saying that there's a high school that they
take care of, it burned down in the eighties. There
are definitely spirits in this high school? Will you please
come and investigate? She's super excited. She's like, we need
to make this huge. This is like everything's going to
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write on this. We've got to make sure that it's good.
Bring all of our tricks if we need to. But
I think it's pretty good chances that there's going to
be an actual ghost in this location. So she and
her team pack up, they head out there, and things
start to unravel pretty quickly, and her team starts acting
a little weird, and yeah, things just kind of escalate
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from there.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Now, how did you come up with the cover of this, because,
like I said, it's very eye catching, very eighties style
with the with the hot neon pink, And how did
you come up with the cover? Because that's what caught
my attention. Initially I was like, well, that's very bright,
and then I got to rescue. This sounds kind of interesting.
Let's trick this out.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So yeah, I looked high and low trying to find
the perfect cover designer because I knew I wanted it
to have a certain vibe. It's eighties, it's ghosts, you know,
it has to be super bold and fun. And I
actually discovered my cover designer and her company is we
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We Got You Covered Book design and everyone should go
look out at her stuff because she's amazing, fantastic. Just
knocked this out of the park. All I told her.
I gave her the blurb for the book and I said,
I want bright colors. I definitely want pink, it's my
favorite color. But other than that, go for it. And
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she knocked it out of the park. As soon as
I got the proof, I was just like, nothing needs
to be changed. That's perfect, amazing. So I feel super
luck you to have founder. I've got her land up
for my next book, which is exciting.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
So well, like I said, it's definitely an eye catching
uh book cover, And and that's what you want on
anything you do. You want something to grab somebody's attention
so they will catch it and be like, Okay, well
what's what is this about? Because this is this has
caught my attention and the cover definitely does that. So
if you're looking online or you catch it on Instagram
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or see it in a bookstore, that's going to draw
your attention and you're gonna want to be You're you're
going to want to pick it up and check out
and see what it's about. So uh, props to her
for coming up with something so so eye catching like that.
So and so, obviously you've written the one book you said,
You've written a couple of authors that you kind of
tossed out, So obviously there's more plans for other books,
(18:51):
as you've already kind of touched on what what is
your next book going to be about? Without giving away
too much about it?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
The next one is going to be an all girls
summer camp slasher, and it has a little bit of
a twist which I won't spoil because I'm so excited
about it, but I can't tell anyone, which is awful
but also very right. I've got that one planned. I've
got something that's also a little more goose Bumps esque
(19:24):
coming that's kind of about a haunted pumpkin field and yeah,
that should be so much fun too. I like the
vibes for it in my head, so I'm hoping I
can translate that. But yeah, so I've definitely got a
bunch of ideas that are turning around up there, and
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I just hope I can write them fast enough.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That's that's always. Uh. I guess the biggest downfall is
finding the time to actually sit down and do it,
because I've tried several times myself to put all my
personal experiences to paper, and you know, cause I've been
experienced stuff since I was like three years old, so
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i have a lot to talk about. And I'm like,
you know, even if it's just one hundred pages, you know,
m hmm, that's still, you know, a short book. And
I'm like, I could easily do one hundred pages. So
you know, I'll sit down and I'll get into type
and stuff. And the last time i'd done it, I
think I got maybe what I would think would probably
(20:33):
be about six pages done. I was like, right, I'm
done for the day. I'll pick this back up tomorrow.
And tomorrow has never come. Yeah, and that was like
two years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Oh, it's rough finding the time and the motivations.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I don't think I have. I thought I had saved
it on a flask drive, and if I did, I
can't find it anywhere. So I'm like, because of the
way I had everything boorded sent it really good, and
I'm like, now if I can't find that, i gotta
start completely over. And I've even tried to sit down
and write just a totally you know, fiction book. And
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I got about ten pages into that, I had a
title for it, I had characters already made. I did
say I did find that on my old laptop about
a month ago, so I'm like, that's still kind of there.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Ice.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So like it was gonna be called when hell how's Oh,
it was gonna be about this, about this dude who
is pretty much haunted and tortured by this but by
the spirit of a witch nice like he's hearing all
that he gets. He comes he comes home, and he's
hearing all this stuff, and he hears a dog barking
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in his house and he got to realizing, Okay, my
dog's right here beside me. I better go check this out.
Walks inside, finds where the sound's coming from, opens a
closet door, and finds his dog, like completely dismembered. Oh no,
and he looks over and like his dog, but he
thought it was a dog, okay, like turned into something else,
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and like he hauls asked out of his house. And
it's like I had a really cool story in my
head and I banged, you know, six seven pages out
and then just stopped. And that was like ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
So I am all for you writing this because now
I want to know how it ends.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Like I said, it's just one of those things where
I have to have the time. Yeah, because with what
I what I do for work, you know, I work
forty eight fifty hours a week, come home, you know,
to a wife and three kids. And when I actually
have a day off and I tell myself, I'm not
gonna do anything today whatsoever, I'm constantly going like I can't.
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It's like I can't sit still, like I just gotta
I gotta be going, gotta be going, gotta be going.
So maybe one day I'll actually stop and just say, Okay,
I'm gonna take a few days. Everybody leave me alone.
I want to do this. So, so when is your
next book? What? When? When do you have? Do you
have an expected release date for that or or a
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timeline you're hoping to have it out by.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
It'll probably be next May. I am still writing and
working on that, but and it'll be a fun summer read.
I figure that gives me enough time and if if
I don't get distracted, then hopefully i'll have the Pumpkin
one out by next fall. So it'll be a lot
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to try and do that, but uh yeah, let's just
hope I don't get too distracted.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And well, the other ones already, they both sound intriguing already,
and I don't even know anything about it, like a
haunted pumpkin field. That's completely different, Like you don't you
wouldn't think of something like that, Like when you think
of outdoors, you think more more or less of a
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haunted forest or haunted lake. But that sounds interesting, and
if it has a goose bumpus bumpish type feel to it,
I'm all for it because I love those books.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
As a kid, was so good, Like I still have
my entire collection over there, just I.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Wish, I wish I did. I had damn near all
of them, and then I got when I got older
and moved out, I don't read those anymore, and I
found myself buying some off eBay and going to use bookstores.
So I have a few of them, but not not
like I used to.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Oh, did you have a favorite?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
My favorite was Ghost Beach?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Nice, Yes, that.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Was I don't that. I was always more into the haunted,
the more of the ghost ones more than the the
dummy ones or stuff. Like, I was always more drawn
to the ghost ones, but that was my absolute favorite
one Night in Horrorland. I love that one. So I've
actually got a shirt put that on it, so that's awesome.
(25:08):
That was one of my favorite ones. The Werewolf of
fever Swamp always really stuck out to me. The earlier
ones I really liked. As he kept writing, they kind
of got a little bit more far fetched, and I did.
I did really like the ones he did there towards
the end where you kind of choose where you wanted
(25:30):
what you wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yes, I love choose your own adventure books. They are
so much fun.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So it's like, go to page twenty if you want
to save this person, or go to page fifty two
if you want to let them leave, And I'm like,
and I would always go back like I'm like, which,
which do I really want to do? So yeah, those
are always fun and maybe hell, maybe that's something you
could do down the road too.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
You never know, No, I would love to. I feel
like the brain power to be able to figure out
how to do that, right. I think my brain works
that way.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
So if somebody wanted to sit down and write a book,
whether it's about their life something totally made up. What
advice would you give them to accomplish that?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
You just just do it. I waited so long when
I went, like when I started college, I wanted to
go into English, I was like, I'm going to be
an author, and a lot of people are like, you
can't make money doing that. You know, that's not a
viable career path to something better, and I tried, so
(26:42):
I wish I had started earlier. So just doing it
is really the way to go. Even if you can
only sit down for five minutes or you can only
get two sentences done to a day, just plug away at
it little by little, and the more you write, the
better it will get. And the more you read, the
better it will get. So reading as much as you
(27:02):
can and writing as much as allowed, just do it.
Like it's super fun and even if you never put
it out for the world, it's a huge accomplishment to
write a book or a memoir. It's huge and like
something very much to be proud of. So yeah, I mean,
(27:24):
I wish I had told myself back in the day,
like just ignore what everyone said and just just write.
Have fun. So I guess that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Right, I mean, that's definitely solid advice because you know
people like me who just keep putting it off and
putting it off and putting it off, and I'm like, like,
I really want to do it, but I don't have time.
But finding your time is always the biggest issue, at
least for me, Like even when I was single, Like
I just never felt like I had the time to
sit down and do it because one, I worked all
(27:55):
the time. By the time you get home, I don't
do anything. Yeah, it's just I don't know. I've had
several people. I've had several people tell me. I've had
several tell me like, you need to finish what you've
been writing. So I'm like, maybe one day.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I know a lot of people dictate while they're driving,
so you know, if you've got to commute to work,
just put your phone on record and just tell your
stories to your phone. And that's a I couldn't do
that because I am so bad at talking. I am
always stumbling over what I say and I'm like, oh,
(28:33):
I could have said that better, like so much better.
So but it works for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Never actually thought of that. But I don't have a
very long drive to work. So it's like I have
maybe a fifteen minute drive, so.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I mean fifteen minutes. You could say a few words, right,
just to belate it slowly, right.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
So, do you have anything coming up? Any kind of
conventions you might be going to, or book signings you
may be be be be at or anything like that,
anything upcoming.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Not yet. I'm hoping that in the next couple of years,
once I have a few more books under my belt,
I will start doing that. I am super excited though,
because I am going to a writing retreat in Salem
this hall. I'm going to be staying at the Hawthorne Hotel,
which is apparently quite haunted, so I may have some
fun stories after that. I'm hoping. I've requested to be
(29:30):
on the sixth floor, which is apparently the most haunted.
So fingers crossed.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You might have to take you a couple of pieces
of paranormal equipment with you, just to kind of you know,
get you a recorder and yeah, get you something some
of some of the little led cat balls mm hmm,
so just just see what happens.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to. I'll have to connect with
some of my ghost hunting people around me and see
if they've gone anything I can take with them.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah. Like I said, the simplest thing you could have
during an investigation, and probably the best piece other than
your your own feelings and senses of stuff, would be
a digital recorder mm hm, because you're you're more likely
to capture an EVP than you are to actually capture
something on film.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
The only downfall is, say you keep that recorder going
all night is sitting down and listen to the eight
hours of you sleeping to help you capture something. So
but uh, that should be fun. And and and Salem.
That's really awesome.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
That's on the old bucket list for me to make
it up there one day, even if I don't go
up there to do any kind of investigating, just to
go there and experience the town itself is It's definitely
on the bucket list. And my wife wants to check.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It out too, So yeah, definitely, I've definitely wanted to
go there for a long time. And I'm stoked.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Now if people want to buy eighties Ghost, how can
they go about doing that.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It is available on Amazon as a paperback ebook, and
it's on Kindle unlimited it's also being sold through like
Barnes and Noble, and I'm not sure all of the
other small bookstores online that it's available. And also, if
you want assigned copy, I have a link in my
(31:29):
bio on Instagram or threads where you can go to
my link tree and there's a link a link for
my website where you can buy assigned copy. So yeah,
it's kind of available out there, and it's doing better
(31:50):
than I ever expected. So I'm so grateful for everyone
who has given it a chance. I know it's hard
to pick up a book from an unknown author, right,
you know. Uh, so I'm just so grateful that people
have been interested and enjoyed it and had fun. That's right.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Well, I did check out a couple of reviews, and
so far I've seen a lot of positive reviews for it,
so that's that's always a good thing. Yeah, And uh
and of course, you know, you got to take into
an account that it may not be for everybody, so
you may get that negative review here and there, but yeah,
for every bad review, there's going to be ten ten
(32:27):
good reviews, so you got to take the good with
the bad. Yeah, absolutely, So other than Instagram and your
website or you on any other social media where people
can look you up and follow that with your journey.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I'm on threads where I post more like milestones and
writing updates. I just started a Facebook page, which I'm
terrible at, but I tried to post there occasionally. But yeah,
I'm mostly active on Instagram and so yeah, anyone can
(33:03):
find me there if they're interested, and if not, that's
cool too.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
All right, Well, I really enjoyed chatting with you and
get to know you a little bit, and I look
forward to checking out your book. I'll have to figure
out a way to get it in my hands here soon,
so I will.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I'm happy to send you a copy.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
That would be amazing. Yeah, so everybody be sure to
check out Vanessa vs. Lawrence since there is another Vanessa
Lawrence vs. Lawrence's book, Eighties Ghost. Easiest way to find it,
it's probably just typing Eighties Ghost in Google, and it's
probably gonna pop up every way you can buy it,
everywhere you can locate it, So that's probably the probably
(33:41):
the quickest way, I would say, probably the easiest way.
Just just google it and just check out that cover.
If the cover catches your attention by the book, support
miss miss Lawrence in her endeavors. There it is right there.
See that's just an eye catching, just a I caching cover.
It's so red I dig it. I love it alright.
(34:05):
So everybody be sure to go check her out, follow
her along on Instagram, check out her Facebook even though
she's not too good at keeping up with her right now,
and by her book. So everybody, Vanessa, thank you so
much for being.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Here, Thank you so much for having me on. It's
been a blast.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Absolutely everybody will catch you next time, and stay spooky.
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