Stop Being Busy, Start Being Fulfilled: A Life Design Blueprint

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the deep dive. We sift through stacks of research,
different sources really to pull out the big ideas that
can help you tackle some of life, well, bigger questions. Yeah,
today we're diving into something we all deal with every
single second, but maybe don't think about deeply enough time specifically.
It's finite nature. It's funny, isn't it. Most of us,

(00:22):
if we're honest, kind of live like we have an
infinite supply of days stretching out ahead, right, like it
just goes on forever exactly. But the reality check is, well,
it's pretty stark. The average human life. It boils down
to a surprisingly concrete number of days, around thirty thousand.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
That's it, thirty thousand days to do everything, live, learn, love, build,
explore all of it. It's a number that definitely makes.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
You pause, It really does, and it feels even small,
almost jarring when you put in your own contexts, like
say you're thirty right now, that means about eleven thousand
of those days they're gone, already used up, never coming back.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Wow, eleven thousand days. Yeah, and that's why that little
word someday is actually quite dangerous. Yes, it sounds harmless
like oh, I'll do that some something y'l see. But
it tricks us. It lulls us into this false sense
of security, thinking there's always more time, always tomorrow for
the important stuff, the dream project, fixing that relationship, whatever

(01:19):
it is, But someday too often just turns into never.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
That's hitting the nail on the head. So look, our
mission today. It isn't your standard time management seminar. We're
not just talking about to do lists or calendar hacks.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
No, it's deeper than that, much deeper.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
This deep dive is about fundamentally rethinking your relationship with
time itself. It's about really living, squeezing the juice out
of every single one of those finite moments. We've pulled
together some frankly powerful insights about how life actually seems
to work.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Right, the underlying mechanics exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
And it's not just generic advice. We're digging into core
principles that could genuinely shift how you experience your existence.
So let's get started, maybe by unpacking why time feels
so slippery? Okay, let's kick things off with something I
bet everyone listening is felt. Why does time seem to
just accelerate as we get older.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Think back to being a kid. Remember summer holidays they
felt like like an entire epoch. One day it could
feel like a week just packed with new stuff, endless,
absolutely envias and now gift, a whole year can fly
by and feel like what a few months.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Maybe it's uncanny, isn't it? And it's not just you
being nostaltic. There's actual science here. It's sometimes called the
time unit paradox paradox.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Okay, why paradox?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, it's a paradox because intellectually, you know, a year's
a year, three hundred and sixty five days, fixed duration,
but you're feeling your subjective experience of that year changes dramatically.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Right, right, So what's the science saying?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
It's fascinating? Actually, your brain basically acts like a novelty detector.
It gauges time passing by how many new experiences it
has to record.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Ah, new stuff, Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
As a kid, everything is new, constantly bombarded with new sites, sounds, feelings,
learning like crazy. Your brain is just constantly hitting record,
laying down new memory tracks.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
So it's busy logging.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Everything exactly, and that constant recording, that active engagement makes
time feel slower, richer, more expansive, like each moment is
getting properly file away.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
And then adulthood happens.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
And then adulthood happens. For a lot of us. It
settles into routine, doesn't it? Comfortable, predictable, often repetitive.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Same breakfast, same drive, same tasks they.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Shows in the evening. Yeah, and your brain being super efficient,
so it's to go, Okay, seen this before, No need
to record another Tuesday. It just lumps it all together.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
It skips the recording seriously pretty much.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
It's like, why waste the energy logging the mundane and repetitive.
This leads to what some call time blindness.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Time blindness. Okay, that sounds bad, It.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Kind of is, because days, weeks, even whole months can
just blur into this one big, undifferentiated blob. That's why
time seems to vanish. Your brain's on autopilot for the
routine stuff. No new memory markers are laid down, and poof,
three months feel like three.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Weeks because nothing new happened from the brain's perspective, even
if you were busy.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Precisely, you're stuck in a comfort zone maybe, and your
brain's just decided there's nothing new to see here, folks. Yeah,
hashtag tag tackjack Hacking the system and overcoming time blindness.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Okay, but if the brain system causes this, can we
game the system? Can we fight back against time blindness?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Absolutely, you can hack it. You just need to deliberately,
consciously inject novelty back into your routine.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Inject novelty.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Okay, think of it like intentionally jolting your brain awake.
Simple things. Really Tomorrow, try taking a completely different route
to work, or even just to the coffee shop.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Mix it up.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, you might see a cool building, find a little park,
new cafe, something different. Or maybe commit to learning one
tiny new skill.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Each month, like what doesn't have to be huge, not
at all.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
A few phrases in Spanish, a new recipe, how to
juggle to ball, whatever, even just making a point to
have a real, unscripted chat with a stranger you bump
into m M.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Even small things count.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Definitely, each little new experience, it forces your brain to
switch off autopilot, pay attention, hit record again, and that process,
that active recording, stretches your perception of time. It feels richer, fuller.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh okay, so breaking routine literally slows down perceived time.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's powerful, it really is, and it connects to something
else too, something about our goals. How so well, one
of the biggest time perception mistakes we all make consistently
is we wildly overestimate what we can cram into one day.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Oh tell me about it. My daily to do list
is always ambitious, that's right.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
But then at the same time, we massively underestimate what's
possible over a year or five years.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
H that's interesting. Overestimate the day, underestimate the year exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
So we set these huge daily goals, inevitably fall short,
get discouraged, and then what happens.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
We give up on the big goal together too soon.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Precisely, we abandon ship way too early, because we miss
the incredible power of compounding, real, laughing change, the kind
that reshapes your life. It doesn't usually happen in giant
leaps overnight.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's the small steps day after day.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
It's the small, consistent actions, day in day out, for months,
for years. People quit because they're chasing that instant big win,
not understanding the quiet, relentless force of those tiny daily investments.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Okay, let's shift gears slightly to productivity. It's a word
we hear all the time, often linked with just being busy.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, it's a busy trap.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
It's a dangerous trap, isn't it, Confusing activity with achievement.
So many of us fill our days completely running around,
answering emails, jumping between meetings, tackling endless little tasks, feeling productive,
feeling productive exactly, but are we actually being productive? Are
those activities truly significant? Are they moving the needle on
the things that genuinely matter in the long run, the

(06:55):
big stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
That's the crucial question. And figuring out the difference between
just bit work and genuinely meaningful, productive work, that's key.
There's a tool mentioned in the sources, a really cot
and one for clarity. It's called the deathbed test.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
A deathbed test sounds a bit grim.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
It sounds grim, but it's incredibly clarifying. Imagine yourself, hypothetically
ninety years old. You're looking back on your whole life. Okay,
in that moment of clarity, what would you truly wish
you'd spend more time on. Would it genuinely be that
extra hour grinding at the office, or would it be
time with family, pursuing that passion project, learning that instrument,

(07:34):
helping that cause you cared about oo.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, that puts things in perspective pretty quickly.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
It does. It's not about guilt. It's about instant clarification
of your real, deep down priorities. It forces you to
confront the gap between what you say matters and where
your time actually goes. You might tell yourself, oh, I'll
get to that important personal thing after this urgent work thing,
but those vital priorities can just quietly slip away day
by day, lost.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
In the noise of the urgent hashtag tag tag chanin
strategic elimination and compound impact.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
So if just being busy isn't the goal, and ticking
off endless tasks isn't the path, what is.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
It seems to come down to something. Really successful people
understand deeply knowing what not to do is often way
more valuable than knowing what to do.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
They go, It's about strategic elimination, creating space, cutting through
the clutter, so you could actually focus on what counts
being absolutely ruthless with your attention.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay, ruthless elimination. How do we do that practically?

Speaker 2 (08:31):
There's a great practical strategy for this the two list approach.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Two lists.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Okay, First, dump everything onto one list, everything you want
to do, feel you should do, all the demands pulling
at you. Get it all out the brain dump exactly.
Then the crucial step.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Go through that massive list and circle only the top
three things. Just three, the three that if you nailed them,
would make the single biggest positive difference in your life.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Only three.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
That sounds hard, It is hard. That's the point. Everything
else on that original list, all the stuff you didn't circle, Yeah,
that becomes your avoid list, your absolutely do not do
unless critical lists.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
This simple act, this rigorous prioritizing, it brings incredible focus.
It gives you permission, empowers you really to say no
to everything that doesn't serve Those top three priorities, freeze
you from the tyranny of the urgent but ultimately unimportant.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
And when you focus consistently on those top three what happens?

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Then magic happens, well, not magic, but something powerful. It's
like compound interest, but for your life.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Choices compound interest for life. Explain that.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Think about it. Small consistent investments, your time, your energy
poured into the right priorities, the ones that truly align
with your values. The ones that pass your deathbed test,
they don't just add up linearly, they multiply, They.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Grow exponentially over time.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Exactly a little bit of focused effort, day after day,
week after week on the things that genuinely matter, that
leads to massive growth, deep fulfillment, real progress over the
long haul. It's not about frantic effort, It's about smart,
sustained focus on the.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Vital Fear makes sense, But there's a big butt, isn't there?
The distractions?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Oh, absolutely the biggest threat. Social media scrolling, endless notifications,
busy work that feels productive but isn't. Constant interruptions. They
are the thieves of your time and attention.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
They steal that focus.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
They siphon off your most precious resource, stopping you from
investing it where it truly counts. The solution it sounds harsh,
but it's ruthless elimination of the non essential, Your time,
your attention, those thirty thousand days, they are just too
valuable for anything less. Every minute on a distraction is
a minute not spent on what matters most. It's a

(10:50):
zero sum game. Fundamentally.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Okay, let's talk about something absolutely core to a good life,
maybe even more than career or money. Our connections with
other people are relationship.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Hugely important, foundational.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Really the sources use this brilliant metaphor really intuitive relationships
are like bank.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Accounts relationship bank accounts. I like that.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, Every single interaction, no matter how small it seems,
is either making a deposit or a withdrawal.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Okay, give me examples.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Deposits a genuine compliment, remembering a small detail about their
life and asking about it, Sending a quick text just
because you thought of them, truly listening, like really listening
when they talk. Those are deposits building up the balance.
Obvious stuff maybe being consistently late, only evercalling when you

(11:36):
need something, forgetting birthdays or important events, not being there
when they need support. Those drain the account.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
And just like a real bank, you can't keep making
withdrawals if the account is empty. You can't take if
you haven't given exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
And it's funny people sometimes say I don't get why
they're distant. I only ask for help occasionally.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Well that's the problem right there. You only show up
to take.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
And what's really interesting is how people often focus on
the big, grand.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Gestures right, the expensive gift, the big party.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, but the research, the insights, they consistently show that
the small, regular, daily deposits they matter infinitely more. That
quick check in text asking how is your day and
actually caring about the answer, just being present and supportive,
that builds robust, resilient, deep connections far more effectively than

(12:28):
any occasional grand gesture.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
It's the steady watering, not just the random flood.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Perfectly put consistent, nurturing hashtag tag tag tag dearshack the
power of shared experience and diverse connections.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Here's something else that jumped out at me, kind of counterintuitive.
Shared suffering often builds stronger bonds than shared pleasure.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
That sounds addit first, doesn't it? But think about it. Okay,
going through a tough time together, facing a challenge as
a team, supporting each other when things.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Are difficult, Yeah, you rely on each other exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Those moments forge deep trust, real empathy, a profound under standing.
It's in that shared vulnerability, that mutual reliance, overcoming adversity
side by side, that you build connections that can weather
almost anything. Shared joy is wonderful, don't get me wrong,
but shared struggle often creates an almost unbreakable bond.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
That makes a lot of sense. Actually, okay, what about
the types of connections?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Right, So we have our strong ties, close friends, family,
the inner circle. They provide comfort, belonging, deep support, crucial.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
The core group.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, but we often seriously underestimate the importance of our
weak ties.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
We ties like who.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Casual acquaintances, old colleagues. You barely keep in touch with
the neighbor you chat with, sometimes people you know from
a hobby group.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Okay, the wider network. Why are they so important?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Because they are often your bridges to entirely new worlds,
new opportunities, fresh ideas, different perspectives. Your strong ties they
often know the same people in information you do. It
could be an echo chamber, comfortable but limiting.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
So weak ties bring in the novelty, the outside view.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Precisely, they connect you to different networks, different ways of thinking.
They're often the source of serendipity, unexpected job leads, new collaborations,
paradigm shifts. They foster growth. While strong ties primarily provide comfort,
you need.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Both fascinating comfort and growth from different circles. And there
was one more paradox about relationships.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
And time Oh yes, the giving time paradox. It's beautiful. Really.
If you feel like you don't have enough time, if
you feel rushed and.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Stressed, which is pretty common, very.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Common, one of the most effective things you can do
is give your time away to help someone else.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Wait, give time away to feel like you have more time.
How does that work?

Speaker 2 (14:41):
It sounds completely backwards, I know. Well, when you volunteer,
offer support, help someone without expecting anything back, it shifts
your perspective. It connects you to something bigger than your
own immediate stresses. It imbues your moments with purpose, meaning
and subjectively, paradoxically, it makes you feel like you have
more time, time, more abundance. It's a remarkable psychological effect.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Okay, let's talk career purpose, that big area where people
feel a lot of pressure, maybe feel stuck sometimes.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, a lot of anxiety there for sure.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
What if the best opportunities aren't where you think, not
in the obvious next step? Maybe the sources talk about
something called the adjacent possible.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
The adjacent possible, I love that phrase.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
What's it mean exactly?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's that sweet spot, that fertile ground, just one step
outside your current comfort zone. It's the space between what
you know really well right now and what you could
realistically know or do.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Next, So not a huge leap into the unknown, but
a natural expansion exactly.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
It's the next logical step stretching your skills, exploring related interests.
That's often where the truly exciting, game changing opportunities lie.
But many people resist it. They say, oh, that's not
my area, or I need to stay focused on my
current path.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
They stay in their lane.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, and ironically, staying too rigidly in your lane is
how careers stagnate, how pten gets missed. You have to
be willing to explore those adjacent spaces.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
That leads to a point about what to focus on
early in your career. Isn't it about money versus something
else massively important?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
A huge mistake many people make, especially in their twenties
maybe early thirties, is optimizing purely for money. Chasing the
highest salary right out of the gate.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Seems logical, though get the most cash.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Seems logical, but it's often short sighted. The smarter, more
strategic play, according to these insights, optimize relentlessly for.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Learning, learning over earning.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Initially, absolutely treat every new skill you pick up, every
different experience you gain, like buying a watery ticket for
future opportunities you can't even predict. Yet. The truth is,
long term, significant money almost always follows valuable, diverse skills
and adaptability. Build the skills, embrace learning, be curious, and

(16:53):
the financial rewards tend to take care of themselves, often
in surprising ways. Hashtag tag tag tag the jungle gym,
career and productive procrastination.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
We're often fed this idea of the career ladder right climb,
straight up, rung byron.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
The traditional model very linear, but.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
The sources argue that's kind of a trap, now outdated.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Increasingly so for most people, modern careers look much more
like a jungle gym.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
A jungle gym, Okay, pint that picture.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
On a jungle gym, you don't just climb straight up.
You move sideways, diagonally. Maybe you swing across to a
different section. Sometimes you even climb down a bit to
get to a better position.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
It's not a straight line, not at all.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
And crucially, every move on that jungle gym, even the
sideways or seemingly backward ones, builds a unique combination of skills, experiences, perspectives.
It makes you more versatile, more resilient, ultimately more valuable
and irreplaceable than someone who just climbed one narrow ladder.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
So a lateral move isn't necessarily a step back. It
could be building a broader base exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Focusing only on up can blind you to really valuable
moves that strengthen your overall capability and open up way
more interesting paths down the road. It's about building a
unique skill portfolio, not just a linear track record.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
But what about comfort? Getting a steady job predictable.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
It feels good, right, it feels good, But that comfort
can be insidious. It can turn into what the source
is called career quicksand.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Career quicksand that sounds ominous.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
It is when a role gets too comfortable, too easy,
even if the pay is decent, you risk getting stuck.
The longer you stay in a job you've mentally or
professionally outgrown, the harder it becomes to summon the energy,
the courage to actually leave and seek a new challenge.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
You get used to it, the golden handcuffs maybe.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, or just inertia. Familiarity breeds complacency. It's a slow
creep that can really limit your long term growth and fulfillment.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Okay, so ladders are traps, comfort is quicksand feels a
bit perilous. Is there a secret weapon here?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
There's a fun one, something called productive procrastination.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Productive procrastination isn't procrastination just bad?

Speaker 2 (18:58):
We all do it right, avoid that big, difficult task.
But what do you do while you're procrastinating instead of
just doom scrolling or binge watching? What if you channel
that avoidance energy into learning something totally different, tinkering with
a side project. You're actually excited about exploring a random curiosity.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
So procrastinate on task A by doing task B, which
you actually enjoy.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Exactly. Those procrastination projects, the things you gravitate towards when
you're avoiding something else, often reveal your hidden passions, your
true interests, untapped talents that can unexpectedly open doors, spark
new ideas, even lead to whole new career paths. It's
harnessing a universal human tendency for growth.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
All right, let's talk health. And this is crucial because
it's not just about adding years to your life, is
it not at all?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
It's about adding life to your years. It's the ultimate
life force multiplier.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Life force multiplier.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
I like that, explain think about it. Everything else we
want to do, pursue career goals, nurture relationships, learn, create,
enjoy things. Everything is either boosted or dragged down by
your physical and mental health.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
It underpins everything completely.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
You can have all the time, all the opportunity in
the world, but if you lack the energy, the vitality,
the mental focus to actually engage with it. What good
is health is the absolute foundation.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Which brings up the energy versus time thing.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Again exactly, ask yourself this, would you genuinely prefer eight
truly energized, focused productive hours or twelve draining, foggy, exhausting
hours where you feel like you're wading through mud.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Eight energize, definitely, no question right.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Your energy level is far more critical for quality output
and quality of life than just the raw number of
hours available, which is why that whole I'll sleep when
I'm dead attitude is so incredibly counterproductive.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, the hustle culture mantra it's terrible.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Sleep isn't a luxury, it's non negotiable. It's your brain superpower.
It's essential maintenance cycle. Without proper sleep, your decision making,
your emotional regulation, your creativity, your problem solving. They're all
severely impaired. It's like trying to run complex software on
faulty hardware.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
So prioritizing sleep is actually prioritizing high performance and everything else.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Absolutely, that promotion, those relationships, those big goals, they all
depend on your brain functioning optimally, and that starts with sleep.
Hashtag tash tag trade tech, strategic movement and self management.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Okay, managing ourselves. There's an interesting idea about being sort
of two different people.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Ah, yes, mourning you versus evening you. Explain that, well,
mourning you wakes up often feeling ambitious. Optimistice makes grand plans,
right schedules that tough workout, plans to tackle that difficult project,
commits to eating healthy all day.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
The planner, the idealist.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, but then there's evening you, the one who actually
has to do all those things after a long day,
feeling tired, maybe stressed, craving comfort.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
The one who has to follow through exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
The key insight is mourning you shouldn't be a tyrant
to evening you. Morning you needs to be compassionate, realistic,
set eating you up for success, anticipate the fatigue, make
the healthy choice, the easy choice, rather than setting up
an impossible internal battle that just leads to failure and guilt.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Be kind to your future self.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Be kind to your future self. And speaking of being
kind to yourself, let's talk movement. Often people think exercise
has to be this huge, hour long ordeal at the gem.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Hey, it feels daunting sometimes, but.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
The sources highlight the power of micro workouts.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Micro workouts, tiny exercises.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Tiny frequent berths of movement. Ten pushups while the kettle boils,
a brisk walk around the block on a phone call,
five minutes of stretching when you stand up, a few
squats while waiting for.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
The micro stuff you can sprinkle throughout the day exactly.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
These little bits add up dramatically. Your body wasn't designed
for sitting motionless for eight hours. It craze movement. These
microbursts fight off sedentary inertia, keep your metabolis some ticking,
improve circulation, loost your mood.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
And it connects to mental clarity too.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Right hugely ever, been totally stuck on a problem just
mentally spinning your wheels all the time, Get up and
move your body seriously. Go for a quick walk, do
some jumping jack, dance around the room for a minute.
Very often, the solution, the insight, the connection you are missing,
It will just pop into your head while you're in motion.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Moving the body unsticks the mind.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
It really seems to physical movement seems to shake loose
the mental cobwebs and unlock different cognitive pathways. It's a
simple but incredibly effective hack for problem solving and creativity.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Okay, learning new things. We all want to do it faster,
better make it stick. Is there a secret sauce?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
There's a really powerful one, often called the teacher effect.
If you really want to learn something deeply, yeah, teach
it to someone else.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Teach it even if I'm just learning it myself.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Especially then, the act of trying to explain a concept clearly,
simplifying it, structuring it logically, anticipating the question someone else
might have. It forces your brain to engage with the
material on a much deeper, more integrated level than just
passively consuming it.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
It forces you to organize your own understanding precisely.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's active recall and synthesis on steroids. And don't worry
about not being an expert yet.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
That's the immediate thought, right, I'm not qualified to teach this, But.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Think about it. Your struggles, the things you found confusing
or difficult when you were first learning it. That makes
you a potentially better teacher for a beginner than the
season expert who's forgotten what it felt like to not know.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Because you remember the sticking points exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
You have empathy for the learner's journey. Your recent struggle
is actually your teaching advantage.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
That's a great reframe. Okay, any other learning.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Hacks read biographies seriously biographies. Why It's like downloading a
lifetime of experienced successes, failures, lessons, learned, strategies tried directly
into your brain in just a few hours. You get
to see the whole messy arc of someone else's journey,
learn from their mistakes without having to make them yourself.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Learn from history, basically personalize history.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, it's an incredible shortcut to wisdom and perspective. You
get decades of insight for the price of a book
or a library card. Hashtag tag tag tag.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Embracing imperfection in constraints Okay, moving towards mastery. Do you
need to be good at everything?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Absolutely not. In fact, trying to be good at everything
often leads to being mediocre at most things and completely
burned out. There's this fascinating idea called deliberate amateurism.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Deliberate amateurism intentionally being bad and stuff.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Sort of. It's about strategically choosing not to master certain things,
not out of laziness, but to keep your brain flexible,
to keep your ego in check, maybe to preserve energy
for what truly matters. It's okay to be a beginner,
even permanently in some areas. You don't need to optimize.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Everything, letting go of the need to be perfect.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Across the board exactly. And speaking of perfection, let's talk
about constraints. We usually see them as limitations, roblocks.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, lack of time, lack of money, strict rules. They
feel limiting.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
But counterintuitively, constraints are often creativity's superpower. How So, when
you have limited resources or a tight deadline or a
very specific problem to solve, it forces you to think differently,
to be truly inventive, to find ingenious workarounds you'd never
consider if you had infinite options.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Like necessity is the mother of invention, precisely.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Think of great artists working with limited palettes, or writers
using strict forms like sonnets, those limits didn't hinder them.
They often channel their creativity in more powerful ways. Unlimited
options prolarodoxically can just lead to paralysis.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Too many choices, constraints force focus. Okay, what about the
process of creating itself?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Big mistake people make trying to create and judge at
the exact same time.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
The inner critic jumping into.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Early Yes, like driving with one foot on the gas
and one on the break, you go nowhere. Just spin
your wheels and get frustrated.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
So what's the alternative?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Separate the processes completely. First, create, just get it out there, brainstorm, draft, sketch, build,
be messy, be imperfect, Just generate material without judgment, Let
it flow, Let it flow. Then later, put on your
editor hat, your credit hat, and refine, polish, judge, select,
but don't do both simultaneously. Give each process its own space.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Create first, judge later makes sense. And you mentioned documenting.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yes, document everything you create, even the stuff you think
is terrible, the early drafts, the failed experiments, the rough ideas.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Why keep the bad stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Because you're brained. Your creative muscle needs to see its
own progress. It needs tangible proof that it's learning evolving,
getting better. Looking back at early clunky attempts isn't about shame.
It's fuel. It shows you how far you've come and
reinforces the pathways for future growth.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
See the journey, not just the destination exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
And what's the ultimate creative secret weapon? Maybe go on
combining things nobody else is combining. Finding your unique intersection.
Don't just try to be the best violinist or the
best coder or the best chef. What if you combine
music theory with coding, 're cooking with behavioral psychology. It's
in those unique intersections of seemingly unrelated skills or interests

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that true, irreplaceable creative superpowers emerge.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Finding your niche by combining niches.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
That's a great way to put it. And finally, on
this journey, let's talk about quitting.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Quitting gets a bad wrap, seen as failure.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Totally, but the sources frame strategic quitting very differently. It's
not failure.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
It's making space, making space for what.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
For better opportunities, for things that are more aligned with
your goals, your values, your energy. Now, quitting something, a project,
a job, even a habit that's no longer serving you
isn't weakness. It's often the smartest, most courageous.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Move, avoiding the sunk cost fallacy sticking with something just
because you already invested in it.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Precisely knowing when to cut your losses and pivot your
resources towards something more promising. That's a critical skill for growth.
Quit fast on the wrong things to make room for
the right things.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Okay, let's dive into our inner world. Emotions they can
feel overwhelming, like they just take over.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Sometimes they certainly can. But here's a fascinating, almost secret
biological fact. The actual neurochemicals they create the physical sensation
of an emotion anger, fear, frustration, even joy. They only
last in your body for about ninety seconds.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Ninety seconds, that's it, But emotions feel like they last
way longer than that they do.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
But after that initial ninety second chemical surge, what keeps
the emotion going isn't the raw chemistry anymore. It's the
story you keep telling yourself about it, the thoughts you
loop on, the narrative you replay in your head.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
So the initial wave is automatic, but the lingering feeling
is a choice.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Largely, Yes, you can't really control that first automatic wave
hitting you, but the second wave, your reaction to the feeling,
the thoughts you choose to engage with. You absolutely have
control over that.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's huge. That reframes everything it does.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Think of emotional regulation not just as a nice to
have soft skill, but is a genuine superpower in life.
It's not about suppressing feelings that's unhealthy. It's about understanding
their temporary signals and consciously choosing your response instead of
being hijacked by them.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
And this connects to success, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Like in careers, massively raw intelligence your IQ might get
you the job interview get you in the door, But
it's your emotional intelligence, your EQ, especially your ability to
self regulate that gets you the promotion, earns you trust
makes you an effective leader.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Why is that?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Because people instinctively trust and want to follow those who
can remain calm under pressure, think clearly when things get chaotic,
and don't let their emotions dictate their words or actions negatively.
Its signal stability and reliability. Hashtag tag tag tag tag
vulnerability and unexpressed gratitude.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Okay, so regulation is key. What about vulnerability? We're often
told to hide it, be strong.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Right that, never let them see you sweat mentality, but
that's often counterproductive for building real connection. Smart people understand
that vulnerability used strategically is actually a strength.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Strategic vulnerability. How does that work.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
It's about showing the right amount at the right time,
admitting a mistake, asking for help when you genuinely need it,
sharing a relevant personal challenge. It doesn't make you look weak.
It makes you look human, relatable. It builds trust in
psychological safety far more effectively than pretending to be perfect
all the time.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
It makes connection possible exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
But on the flip side, what about things we don't express,
Like avoiding difficult conversations.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, we all do that sometimes put it off.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
And it's incredibly costly. Think of it like compound interest
in reverse, emotional.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Debt, compound interest in reverse.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, that small issue you're avoiding with your partner, that
awkward feedback you need to give a colleague, that resentment
festering with a friend. It doesn't just vanish if you
ignore it. It grows, It compounds. The emotional dick gets
bigger and bigger, making the eventual conversation exponentially harder and
the potential damage far greater.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Tackling things when they're small prevents them from becoming huge.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Absolutely critical. And one more thing about expression gratitude.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Gratitude feels good, sure it.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Does, but it's more than just a feeling. Unexpressed gratitude.
It's like having millions in a bank account you can
never access. It's this incredibly positive energy, this powerful force
for connection and well being. But if you don't use it,
if you don't actually tell people you appreciate them, articulate why,
it's lost potential, its power remains untapped.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
So you got to use it or lose it.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Exactly, make expressing genuine gratitude a regular practice. Tell people,
write it down. It benefits the receiver enormously, and it
benefits you just as much, reinforcing positive loops in your
brain and relationships.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
All right, let's talk money financial wisdom, but maybe not
in the way people usually think about spread sheets and
stock tips.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Right, because money fundamentally isn't just about the numbers, or
it shouldn't be when you understand it properly. Money is
primarily a tool, a path to something much much more valuable,
which is freedom, specifically freedom of your time.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Money buys time freedom.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Okay, that shift in perspective changes everything, how you earn,
how you save, how you spend. It's not just about accumulation.
It's about liberation.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
But isn't making more money always better for freedom?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Counterintuitively, no, Often making more money makes you poorer in
terms of actual time and freedom. It's a paradox.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
How does that work? More money, less freedom.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Lifestyle inflation. It's a powerful psychological trap. As your income
goes up, your spending tends to rise to meet it,
or even exceed it.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
The bigger house, the fancier car, the more expensive.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Holidays exactly, and all those things come with hidden time costs.
The bigger house needs more cleaning, more maintenance, maybe higher
property taxes. The fancy car, higher insurance, more work, worry.
The better neighborhood might mean a sole crushing commute.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
You end up working harder just to maintain the lifestyle
your higher income bought you.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Precisely, It's like running faster and faster on a financial treadmill.
You're earning more, spending more, but you're not actually getting
anywhere in terms of real freedom or peace of mind.
You're just running to stay in the same place, often
with more stress.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
So the goal isn't just more income, it's what it's.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Achieving time affluence.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Time affluence. I like the sound of that.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
It prompts you to ask different questions. Would you rather
make one hundred thousand dollars a year working as stressful
eighty hours a week or make seventy thousand dollars working
a focused, enjoyable thirty hours a week.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Most people would probably take one hundred dollars on.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Paper, maybe initially, but when you calculate your true hourly wage,
factoring in all the sacrifices your health, your relationships, your energy,
your sanity, that's seventy dollars a k job might actually
represent far greater wealth, far greater affluence in the currency
that truly matters your life, energy and time.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
It's about consciously choosing what you value most time or
just money hashtag tached, hashag tech experiences over objects and
building margins.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
And this ties into what we spend our money on.
Most people, driven by consumer culture get it backwards. They
prioritize buying.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Objects gadgets, clothes, furniture, stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, and they tend to rent experiences, save them for
special occasions short holidays.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Okay, what's the smarter way?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Flip it? Rent objects when you need them, or buy
minimally and thoughtfully, but prioritize buying experiences.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Buy experiences.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Why because experiences tend to appreciate in value over time,
at least in terms of life enrichment. The memories you make,
the stories you gather, the skills you learn, the perspectives
you gain from travel or learning or shared adventures. Those
stay with you. They become part of who you are,
often growing fonder in memory will objects. Objects almost always depreciate,
They break, get outdated, lose their novelty, gather dust. They

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provide fleeting pleasure experiences blasting en Richmond.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Invest in memories, not just materials. Okay, what's the ultimate
financial skill?

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Then building margins? Yeah, simply put living.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Below your means sounds restrictive, like deprivation.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
That's the common misconception. It's not about restriction. It's about
creating freedom. It's about building financial space, a buffer cushion.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Why is that space so important?

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Because that margin isn't just for emergencies, though it covers
those two. That margin is optionality. It's your ticket to
real independence. It allows you to say yes to an
unexpected opportunity, to take a calculated risk on a business
idea to whether a job loss without panic, to take
time off to care for family or pursue a passion,
or simply to sleep better at night knowing you have

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breathing room.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
So margin isn't sacrifice. It's an investment in future freedom
and resilience.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Exactly. It's perhaps the most powerful financial move anyone can make,
regardless of income level.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Okay, we touched on energy earlier with health, but let's
really zero in on it. There's a bold claim in
the sources your energy is your most precious resource, more
than time.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
I completely agree with that. It's fundamental. All the time
management tricks in the world, the best schedule, the perfect plan,
they're useless if you don't have the energy to execute them.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
You can't pour from an empty cup, Exactly.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
You can't do deep, meaningful, creative work when you're running
on fumes. Managing your energy is arguably more important than
managing your time.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
So how do we manage energy better? Most people don't
even think about it.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
That's the key problem. Most people never actually audit their energy.
They don't consciously track what gives them energy versus what.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Drains it, and energy audit like tracking inputs and outputs.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Sort of pay attention throughout your day. Which activities leave
you feeling buzzed, alive, motivated. Maybe it's that morning walk,
a great conversation, working on a specific type of project.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
The energy boosters, right, And.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Which activities, people, or environments leave you feeling deplead, irritable,
exhaust usted. Maybe it's pointless meetings, dealing with particular difficult person,
cluttered spaces, too much screen time.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
The energy vampires.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Precisely, once you know your personal energy boosters and drainers,
you can start strategically structuring your days to maximize the
boosters and minimize or mitigate the drainers. It's about consciously
managing your energetic ecosystem. Hashtag tashtag tag beyond willpower in
strategic incompetence.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
We often hear about willpower being key to success, just
got to push through.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, But willpower's finite. It's like a muscle. It gets
tired the more you use it throughout the day, so.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
You can't rely on it constantly.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Smart people don't. They understand willpower fatigue. Instead of relying
on sheer grit for every single choice, they strategically design
their environment.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Design their environment, how.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
They make the good choices, the desired behaviors, the easy choices,
the path of least resistance. They remove friction for positive
habits and add friction for negative ones, like.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Keeping junk food out of the house or putting your
gym clothes right by the bed.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Exactly, make the default option the healthy or productive option.
This conserves your precious willpower for the truly difficult decisions
that genuinely require it. Don't waste it on small, everyday
battles you can automate through environment design.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
This relates to decision fatigue, too. Right making choices drains energy.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Absolutely. Every single decision, even tiny ones what to wear,
what to eat, which email to open first, consumes a
little bit of mental energy. It adds up, It adds
up significantly over the day. That's why you see some
highly successful people simplifying the heck out of their non
essential choices, wearing the same uniform every day, eating the same.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Breakfast, hy not being weird. They're conserving energy.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
They're conserving their decision making bandwidth for the high stakes
choices that actually move the needle on our goals. They
automate the trivial to focus on the vital.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Okay, this next one sounds a bit cheeky strategic incompetence.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Huh, Yes, this is ha a bit mischievous, doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Being bad at things on purpose?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Sort of? It's about not necessarily volunteering or excelling at
tasks that are a low priority for you, non essential,
and that others might try to constantly delegate to you.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Because if you're the go to person for everything, especially
the stuff that drains you or isn't aligned with your
core responsibilities or genius own, you'll be perpetually swamped and depleted.
If you're strategically and politely maybe just not great at
certain non critical things, people will eventually stop asking you
to do them.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
It protects your time and energy for what you're actually
supposed to be doing or what you do best.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Exactly. It's about setting boundaries subtly sometimes to protect your
focus and energy for your highest value contributions.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
And underpinning all this energy management is recovery.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Absolutely fundamental. Recovery isn't laziness, it's not wasted time. It
is how you multiply the value of your working time,
rest recharge, stepping away true downtime.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
These aren't optional add ons there are essential inputs for
sustainable output.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Precisely, they replenish your physical and mental reserves, allowing you
to come back sharper, more focused, more creative, more resilient.
The hours you do work become far more effective when
you prioritize regular intentional recovery. Work smarter, not just harder,
means recovering smarter too.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Need to ensure sections eleven, twelve, thirteen are distinct and
fully developed, adding conversational depth based on the outline, even
if some concepts overlap slightly with earlier sections.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Okay, we talked about relationships earlier, the bank account idea.
Let's broaden that a bit to social capital. That's not
just what you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Who you know, but maybe even more importantly, it's about
the quality of who you know and how they know you.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Right. So social capital isn't just having a huge list
of contacts on LinkedIn or a fat roll index if
anyone still uses those.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Definitely not. That's just collecting names. Real social capital is
built on genuine relationships, trust, reciprocity, mutual respect, a history
of showing up for each other about depth, not just breath.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
So how do you build that genuine connection there was
a formula mention.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah, simple but powerful. Time plus vulnerability plus shared experiences.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Friendship time vulnerability, shared experiences. Okay, break that down.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Time is obvious. You have to actually invest time consistently.
Vulnerability we touched on being willing to be real, authentic,
not always perfect, and shared experiences. Going through things together,
good and bad creates common ground and understanding.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
And you can't shortcut any of those three.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Nope, try to skip one and the connection stays superficial.
You might complain I don't have time for networking, but
that misses the point. It's not about transactional networking. It's
about investing in human connection over the long haul hashtag
hashtag tid the role of connectors and community nurturing.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
So true networking isn't about taking getting something from someone.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
No, the most effective networkers, the ones with the richest
social capital, they aren't takers. They're connectors.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Connectors.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
They actively look for ways to inter whose people they know,
who they think could benefit from knowing each other. They
create value for others within their network, often without any
immediate thought of what's in it for me.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
They facilitate connections between other people exactly.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
They're like network weavers, and that generosity. That focus on
giving and connecting builds immense goodwill and trust, which inevitably
comes back around to them in positive ways down the line.
It's playing the.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Long game, but building these connections takes ongoing effort, right,
not just showing up when you need something.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
That's a huge mistake people make under investing in friendship maintenance.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Friendship maintenance like servicing a car.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Kind of people often wait for the big life events,
the wedding invitation, the crisis call, the big birthday to
reach out. But strong relationships aren't built solely in those
big moments.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
They're building the small moments between.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
The big one exactly, that random check in text, that
quick coffee ketchup, remembering a small detail, and following up
sharing an interesting article. Those consistent and small touch points
are like the regular watering that keeps the relationship healthy
and resilient.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Which leads to the community garden analogy.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Right. Think of your network, your community as a garden.
You can't just throw seeds down once and expect a harvest.
It needs ongoing, deliberate nurturing.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Conversations of the water introductions are the fertilizer beautifully put.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
You have to tend to it regularly. And the crucial
insight is build your community garden before you desperately need
its harvest. When the storm hits, when you need support
or an opportunity, it's often too late to start planting
the seeds. Then invest now consistently.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Okay, let's get a bit more meta. How we think
about thinking mental models? What are they really?

Speaker 1 (44:43):
We're basically the frameworks, the shortcuts, the lenses your mind
uses to make sense of the world. They help you
understand complex situations, solve problems, make decisions. Think of them
like apps on your mental smartphone.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Useful tools for understanding reality.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Incredibly useful. But and this is a huge butt. There's
that famous saying the map is not the territory.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
The map is not the territory.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Meaning your mental model, your map of reality is always
by definition, a simplification. It leaves things out, it's less
complex than the messy, multi layered territory of reality itself.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
So the simplicity is a strength making things understandable, but
also a weakness because it's incomplete.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Exactly, and that's dangerous if you forget the map isn't reality.
Most people operate with only a few familiar maps without
realizing their limitations. They only see part of the picture.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
They're playing checkers, but life is playing chess.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Or even three D chess. This is where developing second
order thinking becomes a massive advantage.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Second order thinking it.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Means looking beyond the immediate consequences. Most people ask, if
I do X, what happens next? Second order thinking asks, okay,
and what happens after? What happens next? And what are
the consequences of those consequences?

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Thinking further down the chain reaction.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yes, seeing the ripple effects, the unintended consequences, the downstream impacts.
It helps you avoid decisions that look good in the
short term but cause major problems later.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
So a challenge is the obvious.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Choice absolutely because the obvious choice might only look obvious
based on your limited first order map. Considering second order
effects or using a different mental model entirely might reveal
that the obvious choice is actually terrible. That's why seeking
diverse perspectives and using multiple mental models is crucial. It

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helps you see more of the territory hash tag tech
tach tech understanding versus knowledge and inverse thinking. And it's
not just about having more information. There's a key distinction
between knowledge and understanding.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Okay, what's the difference.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Knowledge is knowing facts, like knowing a tomato is technically
a fruit, right, Understanding is knowing not to put it
in a fruit salad.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Huh okay, got it? Context and application exactly.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Smart people don't just collect facts. They collect patterns. They
try to understand the underlying principles, the systems, how things
connect and interact. They build a wisdom, not just a
database of information.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
They build better maps, maybe multiple maps, yes.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
And they use clever techniques like inverse thinking.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Inverse thinking think you backwards sort of.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Instead of only asking how can I achieve success? Or
how do I solve this problem? You flip it. You
ask how could I guarantee failure? Or what is causing
this problem in the first place?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Thinking about what to avoid, yes.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Or thinking about the root cause from the opposite direction.
Sometimes the best way to solve a problem isn't to
add something new, but to simply stop doing the thing
that's creating the problem. Inversion often reveals simple, powerful solutions
hidden in plain sight because you are only looking forward, all.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Right, bringing many of these threads together. There's this really
empowering idea. Life isn't just something that happens to us.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
No, it's something we can actively intentionally.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Design, like an architect designing a building.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Exactly, Think of yourself as the chief designer of your
own life. You're building this incredible union men portfolio, not
just financial, but a portfolio of experiences, relationships, skills, contributions, memories, dreams.
You have far more agency.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Than you might think, shifting from passive recipient to active creator.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
That's the core idea. But how do you design a life?
People often get stuck here thinking they need a perfect,
detailed blueprint. First.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, the grand life plan feels overwhelming, and it.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Usually doesn't work because life is unpredictable. Life design, as
presented in the sources, isn't about rigid, long term planning.
It's about testing. It's about prototyping.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Prototyping your life how.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
By running small, low risk experiments, trying things out, seeing
what works for you, what brings you energy, what aligns
with your values, what feels meaningful, what skills do you
enjoy using. It's an iterative.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Process, hypothesis, experiment, learn adjust like a.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Scientist precisely, which challenges that common belief that you need
to have it all figured out before you start. You don't.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
You can't just think your way to the right life.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
No, you have to test your way there. You learn
by doing, by experiencing, by gathering real world data about
yourself and the world, and then you adjust your course
based on what you learn. My own journey definitely reflects
that the best things came from trying something small, seeing
what happened, and iterating hashtag tag tashtag, tiny adjustments, custom metrics,
and regular reviews.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
So if it's not about giant leaps, how does change happen.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Through tiny adjustments? People vastly underestimate the power of small,
consistent changes. Forget trying to overhaul your entire life overnight
that rarely sticks. Start small, Start ridiculously small, change one
tiny thing for just five minutes a day. That initial success,
however minor, builds momentum. It proves to yourself you can change.

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It creates a positive feedback loop that makes the next
slightly bigger change feel possible. Microactions compound into macro results
over time, and.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
As we make these changes, we need to know if
they're working, which brings up metrics. How do we measure success.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Crucial question most people, do you fault to society's metrics? Right, money, status,
job title, house size.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
The external scorecard.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, but what if those aren't your true metrics? What
if success for you means something different, more time for creativity,
deeper relationships, learning new things, contributing to your community.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
So we need to design our own metrics, our personal
definition of a life well lived.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Absolutely, define your own scoreboard based on your values, not
someone else's. What does a win look like for you
on a daily, weekly, yearly basis, according to your definition
of a rich life?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
And then we need to actually check the scoreboard regularly.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Non negotiable. Regular life reviews are essential, monthly, quarterly, whatever
cadence works. But you need to pause, reflect, look honestly
at how things are going against your chosen metrics.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Why is that so important?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Because it's how you catch drift. It's how you notice
when you're getting off course, when small problems are emerging
while they're still small and easily correctible. It prevents minor
deviation from turning into major regrets down the line. It
keeps you intentionally steering the ship rather than just being
carried by the currents. Hashtag tag tag outro.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Wow, Okay, we've covered a massive amount of ground here
bringing it all together. The core message, the big takeaway.
It feels incredibly clear now it's really not about finding
more hours in the day.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
No, that's usually a feudal chase.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
It's about mastering the art, the science maybe of making
the hours you do have, those finite, precious days, truly matter,
making them count. And all these ideas we've explored, understanding times, tricks,
prioritizing ruthlessly, building real connections, managing energy not just time,
designing your life actively. They all weave together, don't they.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
They absolutely do. They're interconnected pieces of the same puzzle
how to live a deeper, richer, more intentional life within
the time we actually have.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
They reinforce each other, creating this kind of dynamic system
for not just being productive, but being fulfilled genuinely a
lot exactly.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
And remember that fundamental truth. Time is going to pass anyway,
whether you use it consciously or let it slip away,
the clock keeps.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
To gain those daily habits, they really do build your life.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
They become your days. Your days stack up into your years,
and your years that's your life. It's not abstract. It's
the direct result of your accumulated choices and actions.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Simple but profound, So for everyone listening, our encouragement is,
don't feel like you have to implement all of this tomorrow.
That's overwhelming. Please don't just pick one thing, one idea
that really click for you, that resonated deeply today. Just
one and test it. Try it out in your own
life this week. See how it feels, tweak it, adapt it,
make it your own. Take that first small step, because the.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Absolute best time to start living more fully, more intentionally
using these insights. It's not someday, it's never some days,
it's today. It's right now,