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A surprise broadcast with Mary Dusina and her friend Archer who has come on the show to discuss the deeper meanings of the Bible! We talk about Astrological symbolism, numerology, biology, the pineal gland and more as it all relates to biblical texts. Get a reading from Mary at her website http://marydusina.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lighting All. We're broadcasting live from a shack on a
hill in the Mossy Creek bottoms of King Creek, Arkansas.
This is Lighting the Boyd. We're doing a little bit
of a different thing here. This is I've never broadcasted
at this time, but today is worth it, and we're
gonna tell you why before we do that. Thanks for

(00:21):
tuning in, whether you're listening live on the station, YouTube
wherever you're listening from, or on the podcast Busy Busy,
Busy Busy. We're always busy and it's getting busier and
I'm glad. So today it's kind of a it's not
a spur of the moment thing. We actually planned this.
But today we have Mary Ducina who's going to be

(00:41):
on here, who's bringing one of her lovely friends, Archer's
here with us, and it's going to talk about one
of my favorite subjects on the planet, which is pretty
much decoding the Bible, right, And we don't get to
get into this too much, but it is one of
my favorite subjects and I want us thank Mary first

(01:02):
for allowing this to happen. Mary, thanks for bringing Archer
on here with us. This is really cool. I appreciate this.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Thank you both of you, my tribal brothers. I adore you.
I appreciate how you bring light to the world, and
I appreciate that we have our tribal brother of Archer,
the Sagittary and energy that has pulls back the bull
and let's go of the arrows of the radiant light
and declaring the words. So when we get into the Holy, Holy,

(01:31):
Holy Lord, God of all Hosts, we all are being
imbued with the divine alignment and the sacred declarations of
the word. And that's a pretty good shield for all
of us. So I'm honored to be a part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, me too, And Archer, thanks for coming on. I
appreciate you coming on too. It's good to have you
here for the first time.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Thank you well, Thank you for having me, and thank
Mary for inviting me to come on here. I'm hoping
I can present something that some may have never heard
before and will take another look at, or a deeper
look at. Yeah, you know, it's interesting that Mary talked

(02:14):
about the bow of who the art with the archer
with the Sagittarius said, and then in ancient Greek mythology,
the bow that Sagittarius had was called om as in
something you would do, uh in meditation, and the arrow

(02:35):
they called the ascension. So they called Sagittarius the ascending
one because they were shooting the arrow upwards. And then
of course in her we saw your three, we saw moons.
The ascended masters is the last full moon of that
we saw gathering. So I felt I always find that

(02:56):
kind of interesting that I'm not sure who called Sagittarius
the assent, the ascension or ascended ones, but one of
them did and the other one agreed with it.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well that's that's well, that's really cool too, because the
thing is is, you know, we were talking before the
broadcast and I kind of went from Christianity to spirituality,
and then as I got deeper into metaphysics and spirituality,
I realized, oh man, the Bible is full of stuff.
It's full of like you know, different codes and numerology

(03:29):
and astrology things like that, and it's really cool to
have somebody on the program that kind of understands it.
How long have you been studying this or or into
this study.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Probably the metaphysical portion of it, I'd say close to
ten years now, maybe you know, getting a little bits
and pieces seeing the little pieces as I as I
used to teach the Bible in a in a setting,
in a in a gathering, and uh, and I did

(04:03):
it for many years. So you know, as you're as
you're traveling down the road, or as if you're working
and your mind's going, at least with minds this way,
I will think of a scripture and then I'll keep
thinking of that same scripture, and pretty soon I'm looking
at it, thinking, well, wonder what that meant? And they
use this and one of them is Joseah four six.

(04:28):
And I know you know that there's this whole scripture.
But here's Poseiah or God. Actually he's speaking through they
saying my people. Now he's not talking about those who
don't believe in him, he's talking about those that believe
in them. Said, my people are destroyed for their lack
of knowledge. And because I has rejected knowledge, I will

(04:53):
also reject them. So that was an eye opener for me.
You know, what's it? I thought it would be, you
know it they weren't praying enough, they weren't going to church,
and of they weren't tithing enough or whatever. But no,
it was knowledge that was destroying them. And they didn't
have any knowledge of God basically, So that got me

(05:15):
curious and and and my trick see just kept leading
me on.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, that's that's really cool. What was one of the
first things that you found in the Bible that you
realized that there was hidden knowledge like in the Bible?
What was one of the biggest things that got your attention?

Speaker 3 (05:36):
My attention was that word parables. Everybody is quite familiar
with Jesus talking about parables, he and Matthew thirteen. But
what what they're not probably so familiar with is there

(05:56):
was a bunch of parables talked about out in the
Old Testament, maybe more so than in a New Testament.
But one that really stood out to me was in
the Book of Psalms seventy eight to two. For God speaking,
and he says, you know, I will open my mouth

(06:17):
in a parable, and I will utter dark sayings of old. Well,
I called my attention. What's first off, what's a dark
saying of old? And secondly, what is a parable? And
in the Old English or in the old times, parable

(06:38):
was a story talking about individuals or places that weren't real.
In other words, in other words, there was no there
was no Jacob for instance, and there was those areas

(07:01):
that he was in weren't real either, but the story
was coming from the stars and talking about this is how,
this is what you need to do in order to
As Jacob said in Genesis thirty two thirty, I have
seen the face of God, or I've seen God face

(07:22):
to face, so I will call this place panel now.
To me, that's I've never heard that before. And all
the all of the preachings I ever listened to, I'd
never heard that that. Here's Jacob calling a place panel.
And this is after he allegedly was wrestling with the

(07:43):
angels and and he's seen him going up and down
this ladder and so on and so forth, and he
just then he discovered he's actually wrestling with himself. And
when he woke up in the dream, he said, I
will call this place Byaniel, for I have seen God
face to face. How did he do that? That become
my question, and that led me to the very first book,

(08:10):
in the very first chapter in the book of Genesis,
which is Genesis one, verse fourteen, is kind of where
I guess a person would start. And Genesis one fourteen says,
and God said the notice I used the King James version,
because the mystic writings that the Greeks did didn't get

(08:36):
changed too much. So I like to use that. Otherwise
you can interpret different words, and you can go with
different meetings and so on and so forth and change
the whole story. So I used the King James version
for everything that I've done. And so it says, and
God said, let there be lights in a firmanent of
the heaven, to divide the day for the night, and

(08:59):
let them be for signs and for seasons, and for
days and for years. And then verse fifteen, he says,
and let them be for lights in the firmanent of heaven,
to give light upon the earth. And it was so.
And God made two great lights, the greater light to
rule the day that would be the sun, and the
lesser light to rule the night that would be the moon.

(09:19):
And he made the stars for a sign, is what
it says. So if the stars were for signs, maybe
we should learn them what those signs are. And then
I think it's in the book of Psalms. He said,

(09:42):
I named them. I gave them all names. Well, he
gave stars names, but he didn't name me. So so
look at that. That's pretty are important, So maybe we
should learn the name of the stars also, which would
lead to astronomy. So, in my perspective, in my opinion,

(10:04):
my belief, the entire book called the Bible was probably
the most mystical book ever written. And unless the person
ows astrology, astronomy, numerology, and some symbology and other things
they have, there's no way that they can read that

(10:26):
book and understand what it's talking about. And the book
is written about us as humans.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
And the mind, Well, I think that's a fantastic thing.
Like to me, that speaks of conscious and spiritual evolution.
That means that the spirit itself is actually working because
growing up, I grew up around just the most dogmatic
Christians you could ever imagine, right, and all of the

(10:56):
things that didn't make sense, they just wouldn't they. I
mean they wouldn't even It's almost like you were some
kind of rebellious blasphema or something because you were asking
the wrong questions, you know, And I mean I would
ask some pretty deep questions. I'm like, look in Isaiah
forty five, it says I create light and dark, good
and evil. I do all these things right, And you're

(11:17):
telling me this is all goodness. But here he's saying
he created everything. And how come all these different books
were written by different dudes that were all inspired by
the spirit. Yet man decided which books were going to
be in there, and you know, that kind of stuff
got me in big trouble, man. But I never thought
for a moment that it wasn't a mystical text. I

(11:39):
always thought it was a beautiful text. You know.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
It, Yes it is. And if you go back to
Psalm seventy eight two where he talks about I speak
in dark sayings of old and then you go over
to Proverbs one six and it says to understand a
proverb and the interpretation the words are the wise and
they're dark sayings. So these what are these dark sayings?

(12:07):
The interpretation of dark saying is a hidden saying, something
that's been hidden. And that's what I decided. I needed
to find out what is this hidden thing? And there's

(12:28):
so many there's so many directions a person can go with,
is I guess at this point? But yeah, the the
you know Paul saying in the in the Book of
Galatians that speaking about the Old Testament, that it was
an allegory. So you know. So if the stories weren't real,

(12:49):
they were fiction stories, so to speak, right, and the
characters weren't real, then what was what was the reason
for these stories? And every one of these stories all
come to the same conclusion, every one of them. They're
done it differently. It's kind of like it's kind of
like God knew that, or the Spirit knew that. Every

(13:10):
person had their own perception, and so this person may
understand it, this perception may understand it this way, and
this story here may understand another way, and so on
and so forth. But they all say the same thing,
and they all lead to the same thing. And I
know that you've had them say this to you. But

(13:31):
there's many people who you know are Christians, or they
believe in God, they believe in the Bible and all
that that will tell you that A they don't believe
in the Zodiact astrology, and b it has nothing to
do with them or no influence. But that's just simply

(13:54):
not true. We know this from studying astrology, but we
also know it from their own book, right because in
Joe thirty eight, chapter thirty eight, verse thirty one, thirty two,
it says, can thou bind the sweet influences of ple eighties. Well,
you mean plates can influence you at the star cluster.

(14:20):
I think it's in Taurus. Yeah, so so there is
right there telling you, well, it can influence can you
can you bind it? Can you stop it from influencing you?
And then or loose the bands of orian I Oriyan's
in Taurus? So o'riyan can influence you also, Okay, no,

(14:45):
you cannot. So so Scripturally speaking, it tells you that
you are influenced by planets, stars and so forth. In
verse thirty two, it says, can the stou bring forth
Mazarat in his season? Masarat is an old old word

(15:08):
which means the twelve constellations.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, it's a word for the zodiac.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeap, yes, it is so so there it is in
in the in in the Bible, you know, you know,
speaking these things. So if you you know, if you
go back and you get curious about orion orion uh
and Greek means light, and if you go back and

(15:36):
you look up anything to do with uh. With the Ryan,
there was a star in that constellation. It's the brightest star, which,
by the way, all all your constellations all twelve constellations
have three constellations within them. They're called decams, and they're

(15:58):
and they are at ten degrees to each In other words,
areas has three constellations besides areas, and each one has
ten degrees in areas, which makes up thirty degrees. That
makes up yeah, well thirty degrees times twelve gives a

(16:20):
year three hundred and sixty degrees. Right, So there's yr
zoudi acur your mazra. So that's what's up. But each
one of those does have a star that's brighter than
all the rest. And the translation for those stars is
almost always the same. Far so far I found it

(16:42):
to be the same, and the translation is the branch.
Now you have to remember keep in mind that these
stars are the brightest stars, the brightest light that's in
that constellation. But they're called the branch. And so if

(17:03):
you if you start looking up, well, what does branch mean?
I mean, where we getting this branch at? Is there
any scripture concerning that? And there is in the book
the Zachariah three eight. He says, here, now, Joshua, the
high priests, now, and thy fellows that sit before thee,
For they are men wondered at for behold, I will

(17:25):
bring forth my servant the branch. All growing up I
was told that that was in reference to Jesus, that
Jesus was the branch, and so that's what it was
talking about. But if you go and you ask Jesus

(17:47):
so to speak, and you go to John fifteen five,
Jesus speaking, he says, I'm the vine, you're the branches.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
And that is something that is that makes.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
It a little more personal all of a sudden, and
there you are in the in the universe, in a
constellation called the branch, and you're the brightest star. You're
the light, and that's why it says, you know, you
were the light of the world.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
So let me ask you a question. Then, So in Revelation, well,
and Mary, you can jump in with a question too.
You know, you're more than welcome to just jump in
anytime here. But I so I think when I read things,
I always read them from like like you're talking about
it's it's something that means something else, like it's esoteric,

(18:41):
there's something hidden, or like you're saying a dark saying. Right.
So some of the biggest scriptures that got my attention
were when they when he would talk about like the
visions of Ezekiel or the four uh, the four quarters
of the zodiac, right, the man, the ocks, the line,
and the bull. Like these kinds of things make it

(19:02):
completely obvious that the zodiac is involved with the Bible.
And yet that's also the vision of the Sphinx, right
to to of the mysteries, right to master each one
of those kind of or each one of those elements
or I guess you could say grades or whatever. What

(19:23):
do you think that he's talking about there though, because
I could be wrong, right, I'd like to hear everybody's
point of view.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
On on this, on the Sphinx.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Right, yeah, and that when he's talking about the man,
they ox, the lion, and the bull.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Oh okay, well he's talking about the four fixed signs
of zodiac of course Ezekiel. You know, it's all around
around the throne. But it's the same thing in the
Book of Revelations, the same ford with the description one
of the face of a man. One is you know,
the Bible ball, one is a Bible lion, and and
one is an eagle, which was the original name actually

(20:01):
what for scorpio. Scorpio in their higher realm, their higher
consciousness is the ego, and in their cardinal realm they
called scorpions. It's kind of is kind of basically that.
And when you're talking about the four fixed signs, I'm

(20:23):
not sure if you're aware of in the older sixteen
eleven King James Bibles, if you went to the New
Testament and you pulled up the four Gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke,
and John, and you went and you looked at the say,

(20:44):
you start with the Book of Mark at Matthew, I'm sorry,
it's the book of Matthew, and it says, you know,
this is the Book of Matthew. Bit above it it
has the face of a man. And then when you
went to the Book of Mark, above it is a
symbol of a lion. And when he went to the
Book of Luke, there's a symbol of a bull, and

(21:08):
when he got to the Book of John, there was
a symbol of an eagle. Those your four fixed signs
that the four Gospels were talking about, the four fixed signs,
What did they what did they symbolize? Matthew was the
face of a man aquarius. It was called the Aquarian

(21:30):
Gospel back then, and it means the wisdom of God
overwhelms the intellect of man. You go to the Book
of Mark with the picture of a lion, and it
says the spirit of God overwhelms the spirit of man.
The book of Luke with the bull, which is Taurus,

(21:54):
is the power of God overwhelms the power of the
animal nature of man. In John with the ego or
scorpio is a higher consciousness of God overwhelms the lower
or charo consciousness of man. That's what it was indicating.
That's what those books were about.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Okay, so this is all right if you don't mind
me asking like this is the only personal question I'm
going to ask you. Okay, how old are you? Three
seventy three years old? How long have you been reading
the Bible?

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Oh man, since a kid.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Since you were a kid. And yeah, you have probably
one of the greatest spirits on the earth in my opinion.
And I'll say this because when people get older, well
they get less, they get in my and with my experience,
they get more set in the things that they're invested

(22:54):
in and less curious about the soul and the spirit. Right,
he said, almost to a point of stubbornness. And yet
you seem to be like this information, this hidden depth
of this knowledge is just exciting to you, even as
seventy three years old. This is a good sign to
me that the spirit of whatever created us is definitely

(23:18):
doing its job.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
You know, yes, I well I do get I love
I love the truth right, whether it's bad or good.
I just want to know what it is. And I
have searched Gosh all my life, and especially in scripture,

(23:42):
because I mean, after all, you know, we all the
last thing that every one of us do is we die.
So I was not one to sit back and believe
what the church was telling me that, well, if you
do this us until you're going to go to heaven.
And so my question was always to them through after

(24:07):
I got older, was or worth heaven?

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Right?

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Well it's out there and they indicate the sky somewhere.
He said, Well, it didn't even make any sense to me. Uh,
you know, it's kind of like saying and yeah, and
the other aspect of this before I go something else
is they'll say, well, you know you need to tie

(24:33):
tied to us. That's what the Bible says, you know,
tie ten percent. And then you know if you do that,
you will go to heaven and to me to put
it in logic. What it's actually what that actually says
to me is I'm buying this new house. If I
pay a mortgage to you every month until I die,

(24:58):
then the house is mine. What good? What is that?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, let's see what you're saying, right. Yeah, everybody's always
trying to like by their way into salvation or do
the right formula or whatever. See, I think, and I'm
wondering what you think, but I think that the text
and a lot of the stories of the text are
talking about you, especially especially the prophetic texts, even things

(25:26):
like revelations that could be talking about a transmutation that
happens inside of you and that like of course, you know,
I'm sure you've heard this before, but Christ and Jesus
and all this stuff is really this state of being
in your spirit, right, because if you don't believe that,
then you have to believe. And I'm just open for conversation.

(25:46):
I'm not trying to offend anybody or anything, but you
have to believe that Jesus is going to come back
flying a white horse. The land's going to flatten out,
and you're not even seeing past the analogies. You see
what I'm saying yes.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
And and what did Jesus say about that? Jesus said,
the kingdom, which includes him, does not come by observation.
You can't see it. So so no, it's not. There's

(26:21):
no way that he's coming on some white horse to
save us from all the mess that we created. Besides,
if I look at it from a personal standpoint or
a logical standpoint, I wouldn't either. You created a mess.
I'll clean it up yourself. But it was referring to

(26:45):
the christ consciousness. You know, Jesus is a light force
that's within us, and Jesus is the lighte force that's
within it that takes us to the dwelling place of God,
which is also within us. That's according to scripture. Jesus
himself says, I dwell and you you within me, and

(27:08):
I within God, and God within you. So you know,
that's kind of explains it all. And since you had
brought up the Book of Revelations, I thought this might
be a nice time to go there because it's very important. Okay,

(27:29):
this this is about going to heaven, so to speak,
getting to heaven. And there's Revelations five, chapter five. It's
verse one through verse seven for anybody who wants to
read along. And this is what it says. It's very
important to read this. It says, I saw in the

(27:52):
right hand of him right there. When you see right hand,
that should be not an alarm bell going off with something,
go oh some meaning.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
That means something. He's not just saying it. It means something, right,
it means something.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yes, So I saw on the right hand of him
that sat on the throne, a throne that's in the temple.
And where's the temple? Hm hmm. A book written within
and on the backside sealed with seven seals. I have

(28:26):
just described to you the human body in the mind.
The book written within and on the backside is just
that it's within you and on your backside. And what's
on the backside sealed with seven seals? What are those chakras?

Speaker 1 (28:44):
And the chakras? What's on the book? You ever liked
the spine of a book. I think there was a
the you know, the given hinting and stuff for chakras,
and the spinal cord, the poneal glend all kinds of
stuff that they hint around the human body in there.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
That's right, And this is where and I'll go on
with this valve, stop right there and take a little
a little sidetracker, and this is where Aris comes in
what you just said. Aries is the first sign in
the zodiac in astrology and is known as the ram.

(29:23):
In scripture, it was known as the Lamb of God
and the Ram of God. It's both, and it's it
governs the head, which is the crown, and what dwells
in our minds, in our head, in our brain, in
the crown, the pineal gland. Yeah, so so the pineal

(29:46):
gland is the is the big answer to where you
need to be going, all of us. So, so that's
that's how important as is. I mean, if you do
it a from the Greek's perspective in mythology or or

(30:08):
in the Bible. Traditionally, traditional astrology says that Arias is
the first sign, and it is. I wouldn't even argue that.
But in the Bible, when you're talking about the Sun,
the son of God, and I don't care how you
spell that the sun was born when in Virgo, the

(30:33):
virgin was born of a virgin, So it was Virgo.
So that's where they start with their astrology because it
matches the seven chakras, because you start at the root,

(30:53):
which is where the sun was born, which brings you
you're starting into the fall, or you're starting towards the
darkness on the earth, and it takes you all the
way into December on winter Sultice, which what happens there

(31:14):
the sun is sinking in the sky. And now on
winter Sultice, it happens every year and never misses a day.
The sun is on or moving through the constellation the
Southern Cross. So the sun is on the Cross, then

(31:35):
what happens. It goes, it drops into the bowels of
the earth for three days, and then it begins to rise.
It begins to become resurrected, and it rises up into
the sky and moves all the way over to spring equinox,

(31:58):
known as the passover. So what they were writing about,
and that's seven months by the way, it's exactly seven
months that that happens. So what were they writing about
the passovers? What going from dark to light, going from
winter to spring, and then we'ds that moved to into summer.

(32:19):
So when it hits the seventh month, which is aries
the seventh chakra, which is the pineal gland, a fire
from the oil in your lamp ignites the pineal gland,
and there's a huge amount of light. And as Joshua
says talking about Jericho, the wall came down to the

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right hemisphere of your mind and there, as Jacob says,
you see the face of God and now you're in heaven.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, that's very very interesting too. I mean, we this
A lot of people have brought up these messages for
years now. There's been several people that have talked about
these messages for years now. And yet do you feel
Archer that not several people like you? I would say you,
there's people like Micah Dank, Santos Binaci, what's his name,

(33:13):
Bill Donahue. I learned a lot from him talking about
the same things. Bill Donahue is a great teacher, a
mystic teacher.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yes, and yeah I.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Learned a lot from his text too. And yet I
still feel like, man, this stuff is so blatantly obvious now,
like wouldn't it make people happy to know this? Like, well,
there still is a fight in this kind of dogmatic
religious scene.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
You know, I couldn't agree more. I mean, in essence,
all you need is the faith of a mustard seed,
as it says, you don't need a preacher, you don't
need a church, you don't need anything but yourself. And

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since the pineal gland doesn't open unless it's there's total darkness, then,
as Jesus said, go into your closet when you pray,
where's that make it darkness? Take no thought? So the
pineal gland will open if you go into the darkness

(34:21):
or or we would say meditation, but you're not going
to meditate in the middle of summer outdoors. You know
you're going to want to do this, you know, in
the darkness. So the pineal gland will open. And I
would think that people who have cancer or or or
have some kind of health issues would want to do

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this because what does the pineal gland give off? Melatonin?
And what are they saying is something that does cure cancer? Melatonin?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Right?

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, and so and so the two things involved in
all of this, it's two glands, the pituitary gland and
the pioneer glan. The tuitary gland is the starting point
and that gives you your colostrum in the brain and
is also produces the milk in the female. And what

(35:13):
color is milk? Is white? And what color is melatonin.
It's a honey color. Now you know why he said,
I will take you to the land of milk and honey.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Here's this is a question. I know I'm not saying
you would have an answer to, but have you ever
thought about this? So the Hebrews wrote, for the most part,
we know supposedly Moses wrote a lot of the books
in the Old Testament. There's a lot of hidden numerological
and astrological stuff in the Old Testament, biological as we're

(35:47):
talking about now, right, and then the New Testament as well,
A lot I think was written by some I would
say Gnostic or Asenian Greeks. Maybe I don't know. But
the thing is is, uh, how did they know this? Right?
There's only one way that they don't. They didn't have
the technology that we have now, how could they know

(36:09):
this stuff without having experienced it?

Speaker 3 (36:12):
But then I question that too, Joe sometimes did they
not have the technology? But the answer and well, I
didn't mean to interrupt you, go.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Ahead, Well, I'm just saying, like, no, that's fine, I'm
glad you interrupted me, because like it's a good question,
because even if they experienced light like the light of
the single eye. How did they know it was the
pineal Glenn? How did they know.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
It is written in the stars, which is what they
did before the Bible was ever, before paper was even made.
You might sick. They were doing this from the stars
and it is written there. That's where your astronomy comes

(37:01):
into play, because you've got to you have to learn
some of the names of the stars and then what
they mean in English, in our language, and from that
point forward, then you can start putting the story together,
and which is what I'm in the process of doing.

(37:23):
But wow, those guys were smart. They were very smart.
I mean, and you're talking what were they call hellen
Is the Greeks? They were living where in Alexandria Egypt?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Right, So I.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Find it amazing. Now, you know, we, you and I
for sure have an understanding of who Jesus was, and
and so did they. But in fact, they took the
understanding even farther. And I don't know if you've ever

(37:58):
read this before or not, Joe, but if you go
again to the Book of Revelations, it's chapter three, verse fourteen,
and you have Jesus speaking and he says, and unto
the church, unto the Angel of the Church of the Leothesians, Right,

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these things, says the Amen.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Who did he just call himself.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Amen?

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Amen?

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Who was Amen? Amen? Ra was a god of light
in Egypt? Yeah, and if and if people think, well,
that's that's a far stretch.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Because yeah, it's not. It can't be a far stretch.
Where do you think that word just sprouted from a corner?
They just started using it for no reason, like exactly.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
That's yeah, can I can I prove this? Sure? Go
to Matthew two fifteen and was there and he's talked
about Marry and Joseph taking Jesus to Egypt because they're
trying to stay away from Herod. And they were and
was there until the death of Herod that it might

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be fulfilled, which was spoken of the Lord by the prophets,
saying out of Egypt, have I called my son? It's there?
So Jesus said, I am Amen, I am the God
of life. I dwell within you.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Pretty crazy right to think about it. You know, who
is his actual name though what was said? There's some
debate over was his actual name, you know, Yheshwabin Joseph
was his name. Jesus the Greeks gave him a name
that corresponded with that Christic oil that you're talking about though,
Jesus Christ, right.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
The Christ meaning chisholm. They took it from the word chrism.
I'm sorry, chrism, which is I guess I trying to
think of which is one of the substances that gets
produced when when a male or female becomes enticed with

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each other.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Sure, right, exactly that stuff was major. You know, it's okay,
it's okay, but you're talking like we talk about this
all the time on the show, So it's totally fine.
What you're saying is what's been hidden and the reason
why you have to ask yourself why was it hidden?
Think about why it was hidden. If you back then,
if you especially during like the Greek in Roman time,

(40:40):
if you come out and said, you know, this stuff
means this, this or that, Like, they didn't just make
fun of you. You got strung up, They hurt you.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
You know, yeah, you were you were at burns a
steak or whatever. And eventually anybody who knew this was
they dead. Anybody who knew this quit talking about it
for fear for their life. And who was it that
was killing them? The Church? Yeah, So eventually the only

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thing left was the church, and they used the same book,
of course, but they started reading it like it was
some kind of.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
A novel, right right.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Instead of a mystical book keep telling you how to
get to heaven, not after you die, but before.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, it's what I.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Don't It's what I don't understand sometimes why people can't
see it or don't want to see it. Maybe you
know Revelations five is it was? It is another eye opener,
because you know it was talking about this book, which
is you written within the throne is your mind? You know?

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The altar was the pineal gland. That was the Ram's
horn or the ram, the Ram of God. That's where
all that was at. And it's interesting because in the book,
and there's some very interesting part parts in Revelations five.

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In verse two it says who's worthy to open the book?
And the loose the seals there up? And then in
verse three it says, no man in heaven, nor on earth,
neither under the earth was able to open the book,
neither to look thereon. I mean, that's like holy Cow.
And then and then johnsonid I wept much because no

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man was found worthy to open and to read the book.
And then one of the helders said to him, oh,
we've not, because behold, the lion of the tribe of
Judah has prevailed to open the book and to loose
the seven seals thereof. And what is he talking about? Well,

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you have to go all the way over to the
Book of Numbers, chapter two, and there you begin a
whole new adventure. Because God's speaking of Moses and says,
I want the children of visual to camp, And he
goes through each one of them, and he's got him

(43:29):
camping in a circle. How about that? And there's how
many tribes twelve? How many cranial nerves to the mind,
to the brain twelve? Hello, how many gates to the
city twelve? How many consolations twelve? Now this is all
adds together. But he starts out with this. In verse three,

(43:52):
chapter two, it says, and on the east side, towards
the rising of the sun show they are the standard
of the camp of Judah, pits throughout their armies. It's like, whoa,
now east side? Why the east side, Well, because that's
where the sun rises. What does the sun bring light?

(44:14):
But if you as a compass, and I ask you
which way which side is the east side? Well, if
he was facing north, which.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Side would be east, the right side.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
To the right, to the right hemisphere.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
It's the same thing when he's talking about fish, when
he says, cast your net to the right side.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
That's right. And how many fish did they catch? One
hundred and fifty three? One in five is six plus
three is nine. Nine is the numerology number or higher
consciousness spirit in other words, virtual concept. That's what it means.
The Book of Revelations, that chapter was the thirteen. I

(45:01):
think it is the last verse what talks about the
number of the beast. The number is six sixty six
and says he has wisdom. Will you figure it out? Well,
it's not hard to figure out. Six plus six is
twelve plus six is eighteen. One in eight equals on nine.
And this particular nine is talking about a beast, so

(45:21):
it's talking about the cardinal man or is talking about
doctrines in works or religion, and it calls it the beast.
So who's the beast? We are our carnal self, our
lower consciousness of the beast. Go to the very next verse.
Was it in chapter fourteen? Verse one? And now is
talking about the one hundred and forty four thousand, who

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were the saints? Added up, one plus four is five
plus four is nine. Now we're talking higher consciousness, spirits.
That's what it is talking about. That's the importance of
the numerology. And just to throw a little freebie in

(46:04):
here in the Book of numbers, same way, same place
where he's talking to how to tell them how to
camp and verse nine says all that were numbered in
the camp of Judah was ae hundred thousand, four score
thousand and six thousand and four hundred throughout their armies.
That number is one hundred and eighty six thousand, four hundred.

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Do you know what that number is? Exact speed?

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yesterday? It equals the speed of light. Yeah, we've talked
about that before too. That's so crazy. And again how
could they know that? And what you're saying is is
the wars. So this is what I mean by like
when people say I do agree that all the books
were written by men. Okay, but you have to also
think too, every spiritual text, even the ones that got

(46:54):
burned in the Library of Alexandria, all these books were
written by men spiritually inspired and influenced and written at
every single one of them. So none to me is
less important than the other one. But we have to
take everything into context too, right, we do have to
take it into context. So what would be a bigger question?

(47:16):
I guess, and I know we're getting deep fast. Here
is why all of the books about these scenes? Why
are they missing? There isn't that many a matter of fact,
there isn't too many people that reference them. There's not
that many books about them. Yet we hardly know anything
about them. And I think, like we were talking about
before the show, that this is that the this is

(47:40):
some of the keys that were missing in text.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
You know, yes, yeah, there is, there's there's a lot. Well,
you know, it's not you know what I teacher, what
I believe, how you want to look at it. It
is not popular. There's no money in it. I don't.
You're not going to get a big building.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Or a five airplane. You're not going to get one
of those.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
You're not gonna get any of that now, yea. I
will say this. You know, the the the little local churches,
you know what with their with their preachers, they they're innocent,
they they don't know unfortunately, but those bigger ones they
know and and as as Jesus said, I think it's

(48:37):
it was it Matthew, I think or he's talking to
the Pharisees and he said, you Pharisees and Scripes. He's
talking to scripe too.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Well.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
What's the scribe translated out of the Greek is doctrines words,
it's religion. But he says, you guys will not enter
in to the Kingdom of Hell, and you and you
keep those who want to enter in from entering in.

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It doesn't say anything about dying. You notice that, right,
You don't have to die to go to heaven. In fact,
chances are you might not.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Well.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
In my belief, if you die, you're you're probably just
going to come right back again. I definitely believe in reincarnation.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
In other words, so trippy man. First, First, first, guy,
I've talked to uh from your era, right that that
I totally vibe with on all of this. You know,
there's so much more to be revealed, though, don't you
think like it just gets deeper and deeper. I'm not

(49:48):
keep finding stuff in that book.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yes, I mean, you know, like like you said, and
I and I and I've heard I've heard sermons about
this I'm sure you're have to. You know, this is
that the eye be single, the body be filled with light.
How many eyes was it talking about one? It wasn't
talking about It didn't say plural. It's an I. Well,

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there's only one eye, and that's the third eye, which
is the pineal gland. It's not talking about if you
if you're if you keep your eye on Jesus. It's
not talking about that at all. And so I look
at people, say, you don't understand that if your eye

(50:33):
is single, if you can activate your pineal gland, you
will be filled with light. Yeah, yeah, this, you know,
the story of Jericho, you know, is always found that
kind of fascinating because you know, they they couldn't they
couldn't get in, they couldn't get out, according to the scripture,

(50:57):
according to the story. And so God tells them, well,
this is what you need to do. Take all your
mental warning and go around the city once, and thus
shall they'll do this for six days, go around the
city once, and then the seven priests seven there's that
number seven shall bear before the arc seven trumpets of

(51:19):
what the rams horns. That's how important areas is. And
the seventh day he shall encompass the city seven times,
and the priests shall blow with the seven trumpetter with
the trumpets the seventh times. And what happens? And the
wall comes down the wall to what the wall to
the right hemisphere.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Mmm, So you think that he's saying that most of
us humans have got are cut off from that hemisphere
to the mind.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Sure, And if you, if you, I guess, if you
finish that little story, it says, and the people shall
ascend up. I thought they were just going to go
into a walk from now they're going to walk over
into into a little ford or something.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yeah. Right, Well, there's a there's another reference that I
wanted to ask you about. That is a little confusing,
but it's kind of fun to read. It's one of
my favorite stories. And the Old Testament is the story
of Joseph and his brothers. Right, Like Joseph ends up
getting betrayed. It's another thing to think about, like he

(52:29):
ends up getting betrayed by his brothers, and yet it's
sent to Egypt, finds another here here again, another character
that's sent it to Egypt finds favor in Egypt somehow.
In other words, he's his whole life changed once he
went to Egypt, came back forgave his brothers that betrayed him,
and then there's a lot of references there to the

(52:52):
twelve Tribes of Israel too, and the same it's kind
of like the same story, but in a different way,
you know.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Yes, I mean Jacob named it how he named it.
He had twelve, twelve sons plus a daughter, and he
gave them basically you're talking about the zodiac. He named
each one of them after the zodiac, so to speak.
And to the twins, he had twins, what simmeon and

(53:23):
LEVI I think it was who's that Gemini? Hello? The twins?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yeah. Yeah, I've seen people kind of change it, you know,
like they changed the correspondences. But I think that yours
is right too, because he wouldn't he wouldn't name the
twins twins if it wasn't Gemini.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
You know, that's exactly right. Yeah, I mean, that's that's
the story. I mean, if if he says, I think
it's in Psalms, you know, the stars declare his handywork.
If if the whole story was written in his stars,
which it was, then why wouldn't that not translate into

(54:03):
the book? Yea if a person can can comprehend it,
you know, as above so below, or as within so without,
the entire universe is also within your mind.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
That's a pretty crazy thought, I know. So what does
that mean for us then? As far as our ability,
our ability to live and create our reality? You think
or does that have anything to do to that? Again,
I'm sorry, does that have anything to do with our

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ability to live and create our reality at all? Because
a lot of people think about that. Well, does that
mean I create everything in my reality? Or is it
more of a story of conscious transformation. It's both, for sure, right.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Yeah, I think it's both. You're given free will. You
don't have to do any of this, And to be honest,
I would in my opinion, I don't think God cares.
They didn't care whether you do anything or not.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Oh, people don't like hearing that.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
I know. But I mean you think about it and
listen to what he says at times, and you start
getting the impression of now, look, I gave you free will.
Here's the instructions, and I've wrote the instructions out multiple
times called parables, and then I've done it in the

(55:44):
Book of Revelations. I've given you all everything you need
to know, and there's nothing you need to really do,
because I don't necessarily classify meditation as doing something like
in work, work, you know, or get it, get it,
get baptized, eased, or or any of those things. But

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I do understand meditation is not something that's easy either.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
No, it's definitely not. It's hard to take. No thought,
that's not that simple. You know, we've got all these
demons running and messing with their mind all the time.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Right, That's right, And I guess that's why God said
be still and know that I am God.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Mary, you got anything you want to say to this? Like,
this is some fascinating stuff. I love talking about this.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Well, a couple of things come to my mind. He
nailed the one in Matthew, let Thine eye be single,
And then a couple of things that always intrigued and
inspired me, and I helped me to embrace and lean into.
Of course, as you know, any of you that listened
to me on the show, is the Holy Ghost, the
Holy Spirit. But for Aries and Aries, each one of

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these these star stories, these blooms of signs and wonders,
to behold, Aries is I am? And when the Seraphim,
the Cherubim, and the Seraphim in the higher orders of
the angelic messengers, they had lightning and fire in six
wings and four faces of those four fixed zodiac signs,

(57:24):
and they are all about at the same time declaring
the energetic signature of Holy, Holy Holy is the Lord
God of Hosts, the Lord God Almighty. In Christianity, it's
called the doxology Holy Holy, Holy Lord God, Almighty God
in Three Persons Blessed Trinity, and Catholicism they do it

(57:47):
in Latin songs to Sons de Sunctus, and that's Holy,
Holy Holy. It's tying back to the Seraphim, the Cherubm,
the oponym, which are the wheels with eyes in Ezekiel's vision.
And also when you when you go into other aspects
in the Bible that he's talking about, Let thine I
be single, tineo glen. It has to do with your
looking at the Innerverse. As my first nation's medicine men

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taught me, we are spirit. We arrived as spirit, we
slipped on skin to walk this earth. But for a while,
let thine I be single, And as you go into
that soul, surrender, as you surrender away from the carnal
nature of the humanoid, and you allow the majesty and

(58:33):
the glory and the grace to come upon you. The
Seraphim are all about the glory as an alchemical recalibration.
As we do a soft surrender, we tune into when
Jesus taught you know, I of myself do nothing. It
is the power of the Father through me, like when
he says, my teaching is not my own, it comes

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from the one who sent me John seven point sixteen.
All things have been delivered to me by my Father
Matthew eleven twenty seven. All power has been given me
in heaven and upon the earth Matthew twenty eight eighteen. Myself,
I can do nothing John five point thirty. It's about
re remembering, I guess is my little Southern way of

(59:17):
saying it. Reawakening, reremembering that. Part of when letine I
be single is that we genuflect, as they call it
in the standard Catholic or Coptic Church, when you bow,
when you go on your knees, like many times the
shepherds in the fields. When Archangel Gabriel came for the
annunciation to announce to the Virgin Mary, what was going

(59:40):
to go on. That shepherd was sorely afraid. He bowed down.
He went to his knees. So the knees are capricorn.
It has to do with we're bowing to the greater
almighty I am. And we can do that with sitting
at our kitchen tables, having a cup of tea or
your soda or your coffee, and simply say, I allow,

(01:00:03):
I declare the divinity. I allow, I received. You declare,
and then you have to receive, I receive the divine alignment.
And even when you go over into like he was
talking about the branch, the brightest of the three constellations
in each one of the zodiacal decands. When you go
into Ares, it's Jason and the Argonauts, and you go

(01:00:23):
back into Egypt, and you go back into the Aramaic,
and you go back into Greek. It was the fleece
of the Golden Lamb. It's the Ram the show far
horn that sounded, you know at the days of Atonement,
you know, and then the Jewish Knew Year, the show
far is sounded. It's actually the Ram's horn. When you
go into the tarot, there's three angels that show up

(01:00:44):
in the Tarot, you have Archangel Raphael, designated many times
in many different languages to be the messenger angel that
brings healing. That's on the number six lover's card of Gemini.
You go to Sagittarius temperance number one four and here
you have Archangel Michael, who, along with Uriel, which means
limitless light out of Hebrew, confronts and goes and takes

(01:01:08):
on the dark forces or the anti light, or confronts
the once most as they say, glorified Angel of Lucifer,
goes and confronts that carnal challenge of beguiling and bewitching people.
And then you have on number twenty you have the
archangel Gabriel who sounds the trumpet. Literally in the original

(01:01:30):
tarot card artwork, Archangel Gabriel has a Christian flag and
is sounding the trumpet and floating on the water. The
wooden coffins the lids have flown off, and the people,
the humans are rising up, they are resurrecting. They are,
as Archer said, ascending, in the process of ascending. And
I also believe that if we lean into this almighty

(01:01:52):
I am frequencies. As we lean into this, then our
seven seals are chakras, those vorgous is open, and the
colors and the frequencies and the healings start to happen
on the Innerverse, which is a part and parcel of
where our original story begins anywhere. You know, I say
to people all the time when they start to get

(01:02:14):
an up butt about astrology, but I don't believe in astrology.
It's a tool. You know, you're looking at what Archer's
talking about, signs and seasons as above so below on earth,
as it is in heaven. So we're drawing the heavenly
frequencies into the earthly school or the earthly trials and tribulations.

(01:02:39):
There's many people I know that have described to me
when they've gone through a dark knight of the soul
or a hard time. They've said to me, I literally
feel like I've been crucified. I literally feel like that
I didn't listen to my holy discernment, and I feel
like I literally nailed myself on a cross, or it
knocked my legs out from underme, or you know, you know,
it knocked me to the floor. I mean, they use

(01:03:00):
these kind of symbologies, and I simply say, then, Rice
and resurrects and ascend. But you have to choose, you know,
Archer's right, your gifted free will, it's an energy signature.
We're gifted free will. Now what will you choose to
do with it? And choices have consequences, And the most
valuable spiritual, psychological mystical tool that you have is to

(01:03:26):
develop your discernment, your holy discernment.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, you got anything to
say on that, Archer. I think that's true because they
think it's all love and light and stuff. But if
you know, if you read the stories, there were times
that action had to be taken. Even Jesus got mad
at the money changers. He wasn't totally happy at that moment,
you know, started flicking out on him.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Yeah. I guess One of the things I want to
mention was Aries is depicted in the Book of John
chapter one, twenty nine, where it says, behold the lamb
of God, would him takes away the sin of the world.

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That's aries, No matter how you want to cut that one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
What's so funny, man, It's not funny like funny ha ha,
but it's just right, it's just right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
I understand that. I suppose one of my better ones.
I can I can remember when I brought this lf
to marry several years ago. Was uh Luke twenty two ten.
I guess I think it is the verse ten, a

(01:04:50):
couple of verses there. Or it says, you know, the
Jesus and the disciples. You know, they they missed the
fast first passover, and they had been on a long journey.
And so he's coming into a city, into a town
that obviously they didn't know too much about if you
follow the storyline. But this is what he told them.
He said, behold, when you enter into the city, there

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shall a man meet you, burying a picture of water.
And a minute I read that, I'm going that's Aquarius.
Follow him into the house, and I'm the house where
he enters in. And you shall say, unto the good
man of the house, unto myself. The Master says, under you,

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where is the guest chamber where I shall eat the
passover with my disciples? And he shall show you a
large upper room furnished there. Make ready. In the upper room,
of course, is your mind, the right hemisphere of your mind,
that is the upper room. That is what was talking about,

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the pass over, passing over from the cardinal to the
spiritual consciousness. When I've seen that the age of Aquarius
is when all these things will come to pass.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Yeah, I uh, I was. I remember the first time
I heard Bill Donnie you talking about that, I'm like,
what the hell does he mean by the right side,
you know? And then it started like it's almost like
as soon as you get a parable or an analogy,
as soon as you really get it, it unlocks everything else.

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And some people say, well, that's confirmation biased. Well not really,
because if you study, if you really look deep into
the word and the stories, you'll see they keep talking
about that same thing, the right side, casting it to
the right side. Even the Cross and Golgatha, even the
uh one Butler in the Joseph story was that the

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king saved and the other one he demolished. It's that
transformation from the carnal to the spiritual.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Very much sulf and the cross itself or the time
of the crucifixion was also because when did they crucify
him in the sixth hour? What is six doctrines and
works religion? Yeah, that's what got crucified on the cross.
When did when did that change in the ninth hour

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nine is what the number of higher consciousness spiritualism. So
the carnal flesh was literally crucified on the cross, that's
what it was referring to. I don't believe that anybody
was literally crucified on the cross.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Even though they did crucify people back then. That was
still a good analogy. Even though people were, you know, crucified,
it's a story that they could relate to, right, Like
that's something that they could understand. Think about it, Think
about it, right, like, why would you if you wanted
a message to last, and it was a spiritual message
and you wanted it to last the test of time,

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would you just write out exactly what you mean? Hell? No, man,
especially back then, they're gonna burn it. They're gonna get
rid of it, just like they did with a lot
of the books in the libraries of Alexandria and all
kinds of text. But if you told stories that related
to them, they kind of you know, went along with
their dogmas and beliefs and things like that, and that

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you could still hide these things. It's perfect. It's gonna last,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Yes, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
I just think it's remarkable how it did that. Like
this is my I guess my point is, and maybe
either one of you can speak to this, is that
just because it was written by men, I still think
it was spiritually influenced. That spirit was smart enough to
have them write it in this way, that these hidden
messages would stay there no matter what, like we would

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always have access to them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Well, I agree, in my in my opinion or healthy,
those messages were completely written in the stars, and they
translated with the stars were saying, which, of course, the
stars were placed there by the Creator with the messages
right in them. That's why he said, I gave the

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stars names. I named them, every one of them. So
your story is coming from there. So therefore you can
change what to say, don't change one jot or tittle
or whatever. You can change words in the Bible which
they've done. You can change the meaning of some of

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the words which they've done. You can do all these things,
but you cannot change what the stars say. The astrology
and an astronomy new it stays the same. You can
you cannot change it, so it's always there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Just like the sun and the moon thing. You can't
change that too, which is probably why it's referenced so
much as well you know those rising suns.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Then I think where a lot of people might get
tossed up is how can a text, let's say, a
verse And this is kind of rhetorical, but how can
a verse mean six different things and all of them
be true? That that doesn't make sense to our polar mind.
How can a verse make numerological sense, astrological sense, biological

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sense and it's still all of those be true. That's
the fascinating part about it to me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Well, that is I don't know that I have an
answer completely because.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
I think whatever created it, it's fractal, like ever created
us created us on a higher like the logo. So
the word created us. As things became fractal, they're true
in the universe, as they're true here on the earth,
no matter how you shake.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
It, you know, yes, yeah, as as it is above,
so it is below. Yeah, nothing changes. What happens up
there happens here. It generally happens within sight of us,
within us.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I should say, what do you what do you I
want to I'm loving your friend Mary, thank you for
bringing them on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Absolutely absolutely, it's a divine sign.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
What do you think about that? What do you think
the baptisms are referring to baptism of water and the
baptism of fire, one of.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
The four four fixed elements. If you do, in fact,
you just said, Tom, I'll like, now, I just picked that,
picked up up, picked up on that. Yeah, it's the Uh.
It was never anything about dunking anybody in the water,
trying to drown them. Had nothing to do with that.
Had everything to do with being baptized, you know, by

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by the earth, by the fire, by the water, and
then by the air. Yeah, that's what it was. And
I don't I don't have all my thoughts collected to
where I can put it into a in a structural sentence.

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But that's what it had nothing I know, that had
nothing to do with what we've got. In fact, if
you read some of the history of the Disciples of
the Apostles, there were some of them Thomas. Thomas was
one of them who actually got into an argument with John.

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And so that's not what we was taught. We weren't
taught to stick people in water. We were taught the
baptism of fire, and then and then the rest of it.
And so they part parted ways, and from that point
on John was called Mark John with a mark, or
John Mark called John Mark. From that point forward.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Fascinating stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Man, Yeah, Paul, the Gemini didn't have anything do any either. Yeah,
you could go through that New Testament and you could
pick out these apostles and disciples, and then as you
read them and listen to what they say or how
they how they how they say it, you can begin

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to see that, oh, that one there must be a Gemini,
this one over here must be a Capricorn, and so
and so because of the way that they present themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
So I think you should I think think you should
look into just saying when you get time, you should
look into the hermetic kabbala, like the Tree of Life.
That's like a hidden man. There's been a lot of
hidden gems in there where you realize that the Hebrews
that wrote well actually came from you know, the land

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of Canaan, which is a whole other show. But a
lot of their words had numerical value, and so did
their letters. Their system of lettering is a whole other
thing too that you can get into that even has
deeper meanings and messages that line up. Still, this is
why it's so fascinating. Still it still tells the same story.

(01:14:42):
So even if you deeply decrypt all of this, you know,
jamatri and numerology and these numerical words that have the
same meaning as other ones, do you still get these
same messages about the human body, the zodiac, the ascension
and birth, death and resurrection and all of these saying things.
It's just like it's almost like spirit is enforcing this,

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Like if I show you it's true in eight different ways,
then you got to know it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
You know, yes, that's well put yes, and that is
kind of the way. I mean, the different ways is
exactly correct.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Yeah, it's because it is.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
I mean, if you do the if you do the
Hebrew language thing in the Old Testament, now I know,
I know, in my opinion, it was the Greeks that
wrote all the whole thing, from front to front to back.
But the Hebrews put numbers all the words. And so

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when you go to Genesis one, one that says in
the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. That
word is number four thirty in the in the Hebrew language,
and it means and this is what it says, God
as in plural right, Elohim, right, yeah, yeah, so yes,

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it was many gods who did all this. You got
to get all the way down to where the first
lord God is spoken. Then that changes it to a
singular deity. Yeah, but that'll that'll make people's head spin.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Well, we were just talking about that last night. And
the Tree of Life, you know, you have they have
the top triangle which is I am alpha, which is
Chokoma the first sephra, and then Bina the second or
the third sephra. So you get that first third, you
get that first triangle, right, so you have all of
everything source and then it shoots out this energy which

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is chokma just straight, which is the divine masculine. And
then it makes the first form, which is in bina,
the divine feminine, which is spirit. Right, it starts to
make this first form, which is where the word Elohim
came from. So all of that exists, the wholeness of
God plus the energy of God into this like plural.

(01:17:07):
It's kind of a weird word because it's plural. It's
a masculine kind of plural feminine word Elohim, which means
gods and goddesses, you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Know, so sort of kind of similar to the word Israel. Right,
you know, the children Israel is made up of three words,
is which is isis the female aspect, raw which is
the male aspect, and l which is God or God

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within us. So the offspring was came from male and female.
So if you if you try and eliminate the female
as being unimportant in the structure of the scriptures, you've
just kicked yourself right in the foot.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Isn't it cool that we can talk about this on
the internet instead of having to hide in a building
of where the church is going to burn us up
or something.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Yep. So that on that same note, Archer and aries
so far Joe and Psalms eighty two six, if you
go with theres and of course you can go to Congordons,
you can go Bible Gateway, you can go to King James.
But in the King James, since Archer is leaning into that,

(01:18:29):
Psalms eighty two to six states, I have said, ye
are gods, and all of you, all of you are
children of the most High. Now are we going to
interfere with that? Are we going to allow that divine
declaration the living Word? Are we going to allow the
glory clouds to come upon us. Are we going to

(01:18:51):
allow our egos to step aside and honor the temples
of a living God that we are and call that
power to be the most active engine running, Not our
OCD minds, not our need to direct or control things.
But whenever a little challenge or a big fear, or

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a medical or a personal or some type of loss,
or some type of cataclysmic event in one's opinion, comes
upon them, then you can say, I am one with
the Almighty, I am Almighty, I am Almighty, I am
in view e here now. So you've got to do that.

(01:19:33):
You've got to call it into the present tense. You've
got to. And I can't emphasize this enough with my
clients when I'm working with them, getting untangled with their
ego or their bitterness. You know, it's alchemical, it's soul recipes,
it's you know. I remember in looking at my what
we call them the South, and Archer knows about Kentucky

(01:19:53):
and Tennessee and Arkansas and Alabama and those kinds of areas.
You know, I remember being fascinating when I look at
those huge antique bibles that my mamma had handed down relatives.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
In front of the real big ones, that a huge one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Yeah yeah, And I flipped it open. I just flipped.
Mamma said to me one day, just going over there,
that big old Bible, to slip it open and see
what message you get. Okay, that sounds like a fun
game as an eight or nine year old. And I
flipped it open, and they had these really great artistic,
slick kind of pictures in him with that very thin,
crinkly almost parchment paper, and it flipped over to Jesus

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knocking at the door of behold, I stand at the
door and knock. Let he who would hear my voice
allow me to enter in, and I will suck with him,
and he will suck with me. There's a different kind
of baptism when you break bread, when you do the wine,
the holy water, the wine that you are literally taking in,

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biological components of feeling the water on your skin, you know,
the ocens of emotions. When you call in the holy fire.
It's the fire of transmutation that the seraphim and the
chair of them and the openym are all a part
of their wings lift. But they only moved one with spirit,

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and they had fire, and they had barrel in the
sapphire and the openym were also created in gold to
spread their wings out on the mercy seat. So this
has a lot to do with the gold as the
alchemical treasures of truth that the Almighty will bring you,
and so in different languages. I remember one of the

(01:21:34):
first I fell out of my chair because I came
from that country, southern background. When I was attending MoveOn
meetings in Clearwater, Florida, a bunch of people were studying
and course Dad, you know, having retired from NASA. Yeah,
that UFO thing followed me around move On for those
of you that don't know, as Mutual UFO Network. And
there were all these free meetings that you know, I

(01:21:54):
met Linda Moultenhowe and these different people that were higher
ups in it, because my friends were the West to
Florida directors. And I remember sitting there and they had
this guy talking about UFOs and he was talking about
UFOs and Ezekiel's vision and I learned about the Chariot's
the Merkabaw and I was just fascinated by that. Of
course there's the chariot and the tarot as well, and

(01:22:16):
I'm looking at this, I'm a back row girl, I'm
sitting in the back so I can observe and not
be bothered. And he said, and there is a scriptural dynamic,
whether it's Hindu, Catholic, Hebraic or Christians. So that I
stated earlier, I just didn't give you the Hebrew. And
it took me forever, being a Southern girl that east
to talk like this, to be able to pronounce these

(01:22:38):
Hebraic words. And I would keep bringing it up to
different people that lived in Israel. And he said, if
you say this, this is a universal affirmation that protects
you against anything of evil, whether it is supernatural, alien, ufo,
holographic or anything. If you say this, kadouis kadoisch kudos

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I do not. I saw by yoth And I'm like, what.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Does that mean?

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
That?

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Those are interesting words and it's hard to roll off
the tongue. Took me five years to get it right
by Jewish people's pronunciations. And it was the doxology that
I had learned as a child. Holy, Holy, Holy is
the Lord God Almighty, who was, who is? And she'll
always see And I'm like, I never went to church
in Tennessee without you started out with the docology and

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the other song that always riveted and I have to
say electrified. All of my innerverse points was when I
would hear the choir saying it is well, it is
well with my soul.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Yeah, well you got to get I think you have
to take in both both things, right, Like, Yeah, ceremony
is important too, I mean even in uh so when
you read the stories Jesus talking about baptism, or he
has John baptize him, or when he does the Eucharist
he has all of them do it. Or when he
heals the blind man and he rubs his you know,

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his fingers in the dirt and rubs it in his eyes.
There's reasons why we are here on the earth. So
I think this is just me talking because I'm a
ceremonial guy. That those things that you're talking about activate
are unconscious the things, because when we're just talking about
formulas and understandings, that's kind of the left brain. Like

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we can do formulas and understand things all day long.
But if we go through a ceremony, if we actually
experience something and it hits all of our levels of
senses the eyes, you know, the emotions, the touch and everything,
it activates the unconscious and it helps us grow spiritually
even faster. And it kind of locks it in too,
you know, And that works both ways. You have to

(01:24:44):
remember that the church knows this too, and that you
could use all of these things for evil, not everything
that we're talking about. But it's not a good or
evil thing. It's just an understanding. It's just a sword.
It has two edges, you know. Yeah, sorry, I gotta
rent there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
Oh that was good.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
No, but I'm I really am glad to know that.
I mean, how long have you two known each other? Mary,
like ten years or.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Over two decades? Over two decades?

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Well, you've been holding out on this, archer, what's up? Man?
You should you should have came on sooner.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
I agree, I'm not a.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
I do better one on one sure, so to speak,
that I do sometimes I well, I said, Terry is
I'm not. I'm not as structured as some of the
other signs are.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Sure you don't have to be. You don't have to be.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
I do much better with uh. I called the shotgunna
fix you know, the blast it spreads out.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
That's a thing. I get that too.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Yeah, that's what I think, I think, I say. Wasn't
they do always remember something that Mary taught me a long, long,
long time ago, and that is when you're dealing with
the fire signs or three fire signs. Of course, she said,
this is how you can This is how This is
the difference between the three fire signs. You know, Aries,

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think of a campfire. Aries is that blue flame down
in the bottom of that campfire, and you know, dog gone, well,
if you put your hand in there, it's gonna get burnt.
R Leo is the flames that are shooting up now
from from the wood from the campfire. You can run

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your hand through them. You'll be okay, you don't want
to kick your hand in there, you'll get burnt, but
you can run your hand through them. Sagittarius is the
sparks that come off of that campfire. And most of
the time they go up and they burn out and
they come back down to earth. Is you know this dust.
But every once in a while one of those sparks

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goes out and starts a fire nobody can put out.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
Well, oh yeah, there you go. Well look, I've always.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
Remembered that that was her analogy of fire signs.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
What were you saying, Mary before then? You were saying so.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
I was thank you, honey, I was thank you for that.
I was going to tease Archer and say it took
a Leo that he knows and another tribal sister, a Cantarian,
to be fascinated just recently when we all meet for
our tribal meetings and we do we do dynamic energetic
alchemy when we just get into conversation when we meet

(01:27:39):
for our tribal lunches. And then he also had a
wild child Virgo pushing him, you need to go on
the podcasts. You need to go on the podcasts. She's
been pushing him for two years, saying you and Mary,
You and Mary, And I said, I know it's going
to be Joe, but we're just going to have to
wait for the right time, right place. So I know
you're not going to push the Sagittarius or in Aries
until they're ready to do it. But I felt like

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with this Pluto retrograde hovering from one to zero degrees,
and on July fifteenth, we have Mars and Uranus coming
together in an alignment in twenty six degrees of Taurus
conjuncting as Archer was talking about one of the fixed
royal stars Algo, which is the story of Medusa, and
one of the main takeaways of that is, don't get

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lost in your head, don't lose your head over something.
Anchor yourself in the light, no matter what the global
political circumstances are. I find it fascinating because I could
care less about the political divisiveness. But the Republican National
Convention will be right around that time when the sixth Star,

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what they also sometimes call the Demon Star or Algo
and Medusa. The story of Medusa, how even when Perseus
cut her head off, her hair with snakes, and he
would carried around the bag and they took it out
of the bag. If you let someone look at it,
they turned to stone. So these Greek, these Aramaic, these Phoenician,
these Persian, these Zaes are and these stories the scenes,

(01:29:11):
as he said, Jesus of Nazareth, you know, these these
these powerful stories that you hear them, and sometimes people
talk and we're like, in God, bless you, I'm not.
It just doesn't relate to me. It just doesn't light
me up. The boy when your inside goes click click
click click click click. You had me at hello. You

(01:29:33):
know it's a fire, it's a divine fire within you
that you're remembering it. It's exactly the medicine, as the
indigenous peoples will tell you. It's a spark that's ascending
up to the heavens. It has medicine for you. You're
it's no accident that you're drawn to that, and you
activate those medicine ways and those timeless, those timeless truths,

(01:29:58):
as Archer said, as then the Holy oils the melowtonin.
You know, if you've gotten off course, not as a
shame blame, but if you've gotten off course and something
is draining your energy, find the light that you are
one with and that you inherited as you even arrived here,
or as you've ever arrived here. Go back to the light.

(01:30:20):
It's not body mind spirit in healing, as a medicine
man taught me. He said, no, the healing starts with spirit.
It's spirit into the mind and then onto the body.
And I don't say body mind spirit anymore, not since
the nineties when I did all that tribal teaching in
those ceremonial circles. I say start, and I say to

(01:30:42):
my clients, I say on the radio, you've heard me,
do it, Joe, I said it with Nicole the other day.
It's on our full moon thing coming up. I said,
you must heal, you must deal heal and feel with
your spirit and how is your spirit doing? If your
spirit is ill at ease, then there will be a
diseasement that captures your attention, not to punish you, but

(01:31:05):
to grab your attention to say, Okay, now you've got
the medical report, now you've got the challenge. You have
to halt, pause, and now prioritize your soul and your
spirit and Danie'll have a healing. I believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
I'm with you on that. And I wanted to thank
you guys for coming out. And the last thing I
want to to kind of talk about, and I'd love
to have you back on because there's so many different
ways we could take this, right, There's so many different
subjects we could talk about. But my favorite subject I
think right now, if you want to talk about Biblical references,
it's a very simple one. Right in this world, have

(01:31:40):
you ever heard that phrase we have sheep? You ever
heard guys? My dad used to say this to me, right,
are you a sheep? Or are you a wolf? Right? So,
but the Bible references to shepherds. So you don't have
to choose between being a sheep or a wolf. You
just got to understand those two energies and to become

(01:32:02):
the shepherd, right, So you protect the sheep from the wolves,
and you can do that with your soul too, and
you do that for others. And I think, I think
that's why the Bible, I really thought about it, Like
why they keep talking, why is everybody a shepherd? A shepherd?
A shepherd? You know, well, shepherds protect the sheep from
the wolves. It's not that wolves are bad or sheep

(01:32:23):
are good. It's just the middle ground between the two energies.
It's that middle path, that balance, you know. That's what
I've been stuck on. By the way. I'm tired of
the bullies man, honestly, Like I know, it's like a
left turn. But to enforce, to enforce dogmatism, whether it's

(01:32:45):
politically or religiously or any kind of way, it takes
away that your childlike nature, which is how you enter
the Kingdom of heaven. You were fine when you got here.
Your spirit was full of light. When you got here,
you were fine. Think about how that went bad? And
all you got to do is get that back. That's
what I think we like be childlike.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
Yeah, do like David didn't slay it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Yeah, just slay it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
Yeah, you've been thinking about the story of Goliath.

Speaker 4 (01:33:19):
You know, the giant, which that's perfect, actually represented the
ego or the five senses, which is the ten percent.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
I mean, God said give me your ten percent. And
so if you give him the ten percent, you know,
how much of the mind do they say that we
use ten percent? So if you give me your ten percent,
that leaves a ninety which is where yeah, they have
in the garden of eating all those dwell you know,

(01:33:53):
the east side on the right side. So I got
you got Goliath there, you know, doing his saying. And
then David the shepherd comes along. How shepherd protected their
sheep and they'd done it with staffs, and they've done
it with slings. And I used to have a sling.
I always I always liked that thing, so always having

(01:34:13):
a sling in my back pocket. I always had stones.
So if you if you analyze the story, you look
at it very closely. You know, David goes down to
the to the creek or the river and he selects
five stones and he puts them in a bag. I'm
sure that bag had other stones in it because he
was a shepherd and he did carry a sling. So

(01:34:35):
when he confronts Goliath, he takes what I say was
a sixth stone, and that's the one he used to
slay Goliath. And where did he hit him? In the
third eye right forehead, which represented killing the ego or

(01:34:55):
doing away with the egos so that you can move
into the spirituality of things.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
Because you know, you know what's crazy about that? Everything
has meaning it there though, right, like you know, because
he told what did he tell Gal? He said, I'm
going to feed your head to the birds of the air. Yeah,
think about that, right, what he's saying there though, to
the birds of the air, like those crazy thoughts, you know,
that's what that is. He's I'm going to feed your head.

(01:35:22):
He was confident enough to know that he was about
to slaughter that ego and all those thoughts and stuff.
He's like, I'm going to feed your head to the
birds of the air. Pretty crazy right for him to
say that, but he did it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was one of the more would
you say, like Jesus with the money changers, that was.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
Right and that's what when we talk about the energies
of like Mars and all this stuff and the ceffron
the tree, like all of these energies God gave us
for a reason, Like we have these energies for a reason.
It's not the the ideas and learning how to balance
them right and knowing when when the wiset time to
use them, when to be merciful and when to be

(01:36:07):
severe right, or when to think things through, or when
to experience pleasure, or when to let our wisdom guide
us or our understanding of something. And the biggest gift
God gave us is that I am that I am,
which means everything in nature is doing a job. But
we were blessed with choice. Choice is the most powerful

(01:36:31):
thing that you have. It affects your entire reality every second.
So that I am that I am is in that
place where you make a choice every single second is
the most powerful place you can ever be in the
universe in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
Yeah, And I would like to add to that. One
of the things I try and impress on people is
do you understand? Do you realize? Do you know who
you really are? Very hit upon it with Psalms eighty two, uh,

(01:37:14):
chapter eight and two. Or it does talk about you know,
you're the children of the most High that year gods.
And then Jesus said the same thing, you know, to
the to the pharisee. That does it not say in
the law that ye are gods? Yep? If to me,
if once you realize who you really are, that's a

(01:37:36):
whole lot easier to walk to the valley of the shadow.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Yes, yes, amen, what amen? And what you talked about shepherds,
they're fishermen too. Follow me and I will make you
fishers of men to Joe's points. You know how we
not only awaken that ye are God's You know, I've
knocked at your heart chakra. Behold, I stand at the

(01:38:02):
door and knock. You're God, You're the temple of God.
But I also look at you go to the Old Testament,
and God said let there be light, and there was light. Amen,
you choose the light?

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Hello, yeah, yeah, next, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
Someone put in the chat too, And thanks Jen for
the donation the fifty. Thank you so much. That will
go directly to the station. So thank you. Someone put
in the chat that Crowley told his son to study
the Bible. But the Bible is not the only book.
And I totally agree with that. The Bible is a
set of a bunch of different books where yeah, some

(01:38:45):
men decided which ones were going to be in there
and which ones weren't. But you yeah, there, so you
could take the tablet of Hermes, Trisma, gistus. This is
where we get as above so below and the sun
and the moon and all this stuff that goes way back.
This was inspired by spirit. All of the uh, all
of the Eastern texts inspired by spirit. All of these

(01:39:09):
texts were inspired by spirit. So someone also asked in
the chat should an occultist or I guess magician or
whatever study the Bible? I say absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, why
is this possible? Study every book, every every spiritual and

(01:39:29):
discern for yourself. You know, every book that claims to
be spiritually inspired. I would study for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
Oh yeah, there's I forget the number. I seem like
of twenty three, maybe twenty four books that were not
placed in the Bible that they cap out. I have
all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
I've read them, right, interesting yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
Jay Shure, I mean, and.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
It is it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
I think it is the Book of Jason we're talks about.
You know what happened in Egypt when Jacob's sons, you know,
showed up. Because the family was going on, they had
to go to easy to buy grain or get grain.
And of course Joseph was there, always looking for his
always looking for his brothers and uh. And so the
edic went out that if any of them show up,

(01:40:21):
bring them to me, sent him to me, don't tell
them who I am. So they did when they showed up.
So they came in and he had him see these
and said he seated him around the table according to
their birth now, not according to their age, their birth
their birth sign. And how do we know that? Because
he said a shallice in the center of the table

(01:40:42):
with twelve birthstones on twelve stones. And then in the
book of Jaysure he said. It turns to Benjamin the youngest,
and he says, did your father or do you know
how to read a starmap? Well, yeah, my father told
me that. Okay, we'll come over and set with me

(01:41:03):
and read my star map, and you can tell me
where your brother's at. So Benjamin read the star map
and he looked over it. This king, who was Joseph,
he's setting the sight of me. Yes, he said, I
am job, that's not in it. That's one of the
books I left out that has everything to do with astrology. Again.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Yeah, that's so cool.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
So there's yeah, there's there's all of those. I I
think those books are very important.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Well, I have a prediction. I have a prediction, Joe.
I have a prediction, and we're going to wrap it
up on it. So Archer. Yeah, here's your prediction. Those
missing books of the Bible. Yeah, you and Joe. Yeah,
we're all going to get blessed by the two of
you talking about those and bringing those parables, those stories,

(01:41:59):
that alchemy, those healings, and those metaphors alive for the
lighting devoid audience. Yeah, I'm then.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
There you go. I'm into that. You're gonna come back on, Archer.
You're gonna come back on and talk to us.

Speaker 3 (01:42:13):
Yes, I'll do that. It might be a little while,
but I will do that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
Works for me, works for me. And thank you Mary,
thanks for bringing them on. It was really really nice.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Of you to do this, and thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
You're very welcome. It was a pleasure. It was an
absolute pleasure. You guys, make sure you go to Mary's
site and get a reading. Now like it, get one
if you haven't. I hear people say all the time too,
like I should get a reading from Mary. Do it.
It's time to do it. Yeah, just get a reading
to Marry. Go to Mary Justina dot com and you'll
be you'll be very grateful that you did. I've not

(01:42:48):
heard one person come back and tell me that it
didn't blow their mind or that it didn't help them
or change their life in some kind of way. And
I'm you know, this is my word I'm giving you.
So go if you've been thinking about it, and do
it and Marry Josina dot com. And again, Archer, thanks
for coming on.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
You're welcome and thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
We're gonna get out of here, guys. You guys have
a great, great weekend. We'll be putting up content too, though.
Have a good weekend. Good night, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Bless you, alsome yet bless you.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
Thank you,
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