The Bible, Nephilim and Giants W/ Dave Cruz

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Welcome, Welcome to Lighting the voidingall broadcasting live from a shack on a
hill in the Mossy Creek bottoms ofKane Creek, Arkansas. This is Lighting
the Void. We are live onthe Fringe, FM, kt OK Digital
Broadcasting and YouTube and Twitch and itis Tuesday the sixteenth here in twenty twenty

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four. Tonight, it's gonna bejust like old times. I got my
brother from another mother. Dave Cruzis on the broadcast, so it's gonna
be fun. I'm pretty it's gonnabe a stack week. Last night we
had Nights Talker on and we gotDave Cruz on, you know. And
then tomorrow we're gonna have Mike Martinon. We're gonna talk about astral portals
and Lucid gateways. And then Thursdaywe're gonna have Ronnie Pontiac on, and

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then next week we're gonna have rnBoot on. So it's gonna it's pack
full of guests. I got,you know, it's better than reading the
books. But anyways, so here'slet's bring on our guests right. Well,
for some for me, I likehaving people on here. It makes
time go buy faster. But solet's bring on our guests. Dave Cruise,
his host of Beyond the Strange Radio, also a brother of mine,

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like I said, from another mother. And when I started the station,
the Fringe FM, we started thestation the Fringe FM. There was no
other dude on the planet that Iwas talking to, no other person that
I knew that Dave Cruise was myfirst point of contact before I reached out
to anybody else in this whole sphere. So a massive you got to understand

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the power behind this, dude,A massive ripple effect happened in my life
because of Dave Cruz. And uh, you know you got to love his
show too, So let's bring theman on. What's up, Dave.
It's good to have you on,brother, it's been a minute. Oh
lie everybody, Oh, thank youJoe for having me on the show.
Yeah, dude, absolutely, anytime, man, anytime. We actually been

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planning it for a while, justhaven't got around to doing it, you
know, because of the busy lifeand stuff. So oh yeah, life
happens, that's for sure. ButI wanted to, like so tonight I
wanted to do, well, tellus what you've been up to man with
the radio show and stuff, andwhy you're deep into this Nephilin subject.
What got you on it? Oh, well, you know, yeah,

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it's been a topic of mine thatI've been really researching lately. And I'm
still researching. I'm still a noviceresearcher, just FYI. I'm mostly a
host. But this is a topicthat's something that I grew up with basically.

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You know, you know, myhistory as far as you know,
faith and religion goes like that.You know, I've been in like all
the churches and all that kind ofstuff, and you know, I read
lots of different you know, textsand documents and stuff like that, but
you know, this one is alwaysstuck out in my in my mind.

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Until recently, I've I heard apastor by the name of Pastor Troy Brewer
who's out of Texas. And whenhe laid it down about the Nephilim and
and and the the the the waywe're going with AI and transhumanism and and

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all of that, it appears tome that we hit we have forgotten about
certain things that we're already talked about, not only in the Bible, but
in other cultures in their texts andand and and their their history. So
the bottom line is, you know, the nephili and transhumanim go transhumanism goes

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hand in hand, and the andthe and this is just my opinion,
you know, solely that I feelthat we're in the end time, you
know, the end times that aretalked about and in the Christian Bible,

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different other religions, whatever. Ithink, I feel that we are in.
And some people would argue this isjust one of the end times because
some things tend to repeat, butfor this period time period, if you
will, we're very close to that. And that's and that's my opinion.
And that's why I do all theparanormal stuff, man. I mean,

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you know, a lot of stuffpoints to things that I've heard over the
years, whether it's ghosts or Bigfootor you know, aliens and and that
kind of stuff, right, so, you know, and and it's all
tied to, in my opinion,a group of people who are trying to
be our overlords, if you will, you know, like Illuminati or whatever

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you want to call them, thatthey themselves are the nephelin part of these
fallen angels that came from heaven orat the very least might be possibly being
controlled by them. Right like it. It is kind of freaky because you
know, I when I read WesPenry's books, which I've been reading quite

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a bit lately, it's like anadvanced to Zacharice Stitching Book in a sense.
But he says that all of thisstuff has been controlled by well Luciferian
agendas and stuff. But really,if you think about it, they've been
called all kinds of different things,fallen angels, right, men of renown,

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all kinds of different things. Sothere's plenty of stories, not just
the Bible, but the Bible ispretty prevalent in telling us that there were
stories of people that walked on theearth with us and planted the seed.
Right, they had their way withthe women here and planted some kind of
seed, which maybe the giants.And this is another question I was going

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to ask you, do you thinkthe giants are like baby giants or those
were the actual giants from the stories, because it could just be like babies
the ones that we found, likethe redheaded ones, you know, and
the ones that they keep digging up, yeah, like like the Smithsonian And
and that's an interesting cover up there. The Smithsonian, the Smithsonian Institute had

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from what I understand they had uncoveredthese bones of these giants, and somehow
all that evidence or data got washedaway or disappeared along with other you know,
relics and things of history as well. So, uh, it's possible
that there there were baby giants.You know, I'm sure these Nephilon fallen

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angels, you know, took adifferent form when they when they laid with
you know, the daughters of menand created these uh you know, these
these offspring of giants. You know, I'm pretty sure they you know,
they were a baby when they cameout, and then yeah, they grew,
Yeah, you know, there's theysupposedly it's recorded that they were actually

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up to forty thousand feet. That'spretty big. That's like dinosaur. That's
like bigger than the dinosaurs. Bro, that's huge. How could do something
that big? You can't have itsway with the earth women. That doesn't
even make sense, you know,unless unless the women were bigger too,
you know, So who knows,they're pretty big. But all I know

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is nowadays, like if you golike there's something biological to it, because
if you go out to right adude that's six foot at you know,
six foot something, as if he'slike, I mean, I'm pretty much
six foot. I call myself sixfoot, but I'm not really six foot.
But dudes that are way hot tallerthan six foot. You just see

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girls is it's like they can't eventhink straight when a tall dude walks by
for some reason. So it makesme wonder. Its like, is there
some kind of biological program in therefrom all that stuff? Like if that
really happened, you see what Imean? Yeah, And we got to
remember, you know, when whenwe're relating to some of this stuff to
let's say like euphology, there's therecould be a technology behind all this as

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well. You know, like whenthe oh my god, here we go
the brain parts. This is whereyou could tell the age is catching up
with me. Uh. But whenan in Aki we're here and supposedly they
use some of their DNA with withhumans and that kind of thing, you

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know, they experimented with us.There's this whole planet has been just nothing
but one big experiment. You knowyou've probably heard about that. That scares
me, but it seems like itcould be true. Like so the New
Age movement tells us that we're herenot just a New Age, but lots
of movements tell us that we're hereto develop our souls and learn and all
this other stuff. And yeah,there's always this part of us that's like,

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yeah, but it kind of feelslike we're a part of a big
science experiment or something. Yeah.Absolutely, there's always that voice to say
in that in the back of yourhead, wondering. Right, there's all
you know. And and even inthe New Age movement, I've heard that
this is called this has been calleda prison planet, right, yeah,
you know, yeah, now sticksjust basically yeah, but we just recycle.

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But if you don't mind, Iwas going to go over a couple
of the characteristics of Enough one.Sure, yeah, man, And we
already talked a little bit about youknow, their their height, you know,
the highlight of the physical metaphysical.You know, this is me going
to my notes. A tribute's oftenassociated with Enough. Compared these characteristics transhumanism

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ideas they are, and see,interestingly they have some you know, this
is the entry thing, Joe,is that in like pop culture. You
know, I do a lot ofpop culture as well. When you think
about some of the superheroes and likecomic books and stuff like that, A

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lot of these characteristics are like Nephilumcharacteristics that are talked about in like the
Book of Enoch. And you know, while the Nephilm that were often cruel
and bloodthirsty beings because they were,they were also described as cannibals as well.
You know, they ate people.Another mango or anime is attack on

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Titan. Are you familiar with thatone? Nah? No? No,
So that actually shows how tall thosethose giants are. And those giants are
like what we described earlier as fortythousand feet They're freaking humongous. And these
giants were attacking, you know,the regular humans and when they did,
when they would find these humans,they would actually eat them. There there,

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they're cannibals. Well, if youwere forty thousand foot tall, a
human might look a little bit moresoully to you. You know, they've
looking a lot like chicken, that'sfor sure. Yeah. Yeah, but
but yeah, I mean there's someof these these powers, if you will,
that these Niphilm have. They havein vulnerability, the power to completely

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be immune to all sorts of physicalharm. There's a supernatural condition. They
have power to possess supernatural capabilities andattributes. They actually have telekinesis and teletelepathy.
When I think about that, now, think about this, Joe,
because a lot of the nephilm whatwhat they were doing is they were experimenting

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with humans right there. This iswhere the trans humans in part comes in.
They're changing the DNA of the humanrace, the ones that they came
in contact with. But they didn'tjust stop there. They actually went and
they changed the DNA of different animals, species and that kind of thing.
And when I think about that,all those different offsprings of of of different

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experimentation. Think about the cryptids thatwe talk about in the Kernel woods,
right, like a squid or aplatypus. Yeah, those things are weird.
Yeah, but I mean I wasI'm even thinking about like good old
Bigfoot Sasquatch. Oh yeah, yeah, it could be you know, and
all all the supernatural that that peopletalk about, all the supernatural capabilities of

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Sasquatch and Bigfoot. You know,there's a lot of talk about how he
disappears so quickly, Well, howis that possible? It could be part
spiritual, maybe demonic, but youknow, who knows. I mean,
it's it's all this is just youknow stuff that I've I've come across,

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right, right, Well, aninteresting thing too to look into is the
so if you look at it religiously, there's two points of views to this.
Right, So there's like this theNephilim genetic influence on humanity, which
is the subject that we're talking aboutnow, which is rooted in the Book
of Genesis, chapter six, versesone through four, but that those verses

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suggest that there was outworldly connections betweenthe sons of God and the daughters of
men resulting in the Nephilim. Right, but uh, there is I don't
know, I'm not sure if it'sChristian or Jewish. Like there's a debate
whether that actually means was it likea sexual thing or was it just simply

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moral corruption, because there are peoplethat say that they nephilm morally corrupted the
human race, which I kind ofthink they probably go hand in hand.
But if there were, you know, let's just say too big for it
to even be possible, because theywere as big as you're saying they might
be, they could have definitely morallycorrupted us at the very least. You

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know, the nephil A are theoffspring of the fallen angels with the Watchers
or you know, right, theangels that were on the earth and the
one and they were the ones thatthat that had children with with the daughters
of men women human women. Sothe Nephilim is the offspring. So uh,

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it is known that they were doingmaybe some kind of sex magic as
well. Yeah, so that so, so they could come up with this
offspring and then of course giants wouldform. Oh man, that's truppy.
So it makes you wonder if thatcould happen again though, right, Like,

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we haven't been visited by anybody otherthan like Roswell that we're familiar with.
I'm not saying people haven't had encounters, of course they have, but
like where that these are just outin the open saying that we came from
the sons of God or whatever.I think in the Emerald tablets of both
they call themselves the sons of sonsof something in the Emerald Tablets of thought.

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But I'm not saying it's the samething. But well, all I'm
trying to explain here is so Idon't confuse people, is is that when
rabbis get together and talk about thisstuff and they look at the Bible,
they argue amongst each other, like, well, if they were sons of
God that they claimed that they were, or the Watchers or angels when they

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came here, then they they hada job to do, and they didn't
do that job. They were supposedto guide men or whatever. Instead they
morally corrupted them. Right then there'speople outside of that that are like,
well, it wasn't angels or anything. It was freaking aliens, and they're
just using us for a science experiment. And I'm thinking, if this is

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true, then probably somewhere in themiddle, what do you think, I
think it's all the above, tobe honest, And and when you when
you hit the nail on the headabout the angels that that were here,
the watchers that you know, thestory goes and in the Book of Enoch

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that the group of angels that werethe Watchers were their job was to watch
over humanity. And what had happenedis they basically gave into their lust of
the women, you know, thedaughters of of of God or men excuse
me, and you know did theywere called the sons of God. So

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when they gave into their lust,they made a pact with each other.
So it doesn't doesn't just fall onone, you know angel, if it
fell on all of them, youknow, the the the wrath of God
for what they did. That's whythe Yeah, that's what they say.
This is one of the reasons whyGod flooded the earth because of this corruption

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that happened or whatever. Correct correctAnd the reason why they why he did
that is because you know, thehuman race was starting to get tainted with
some of this nephilum DNA they theywere starting, they were starting it was
starting to enter into the human race, which God found that you know,
they were no longer human. Soif they were no longer human, that

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means they're no longer redeemable to God. That's interesting. That's very interesting because
in the in the occult, angelsdon't have free will like humans. They
have they have a will to dowhat they're assigned to do, but but
they're supposed to be respected. Youcan't just boss them around. But they
don't have like free will like wedo. Like they have a designated role

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that they're supposed to do. Right, So I can if you think about
it, if if the angels arereal, right, and I'm only saying
if, because let's just put thatout there. If they're real and they're
in this place all the time andthey're just doing their job. It's like
us when we go to a nineto five job alt we're doing our roles
all the time, you know,and then someone lets us out of our
cage. Well then you go downto the earth and this whole place is

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free. Will It could be easyto get. It's just like having a
beer after work when you know youshould be going home or something. You
know, right, like, thisis a good party here, man.
You know it's Earth, right,It's like an international strip club to them,
basically, you know, that's whatit turned into. Basically, I'm

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glad to see that you're you're yourfolks in the chatter talking about this.
You know, they're really getting revvedup, as it looks like to me.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, see, And I'm only I
asked the audience like, do youwant me to talk about this stuff like
hidden history? And people really thatthere were a lot of votes on it.
But I will say something that's weird. I think a lot of this

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goes back to the Babylonian times andand one of my cousins, I'm not
going to say his name was inthe military and went to Iraq, and
I don't know what unit he wasin, but I was told that not
only did they have playing cards thatwere you know, when they handed out
playing cards to them, they hadall the terrorist names and who they were
supposed to be, but there wasalso another deck of cards that was going

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around that had symbols and artifacts andstuff like that. Then they were told
that if they ran across these things, to report, you know, to
their commander or their CEO. SoI'm not saying it's true, but there
is a rumor that's going around thatwhen we were over there in the military,
we were collecting things, you know, that could give us some hints

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to history. Yeah, don't know. It could just be for the collection
of the rich, but or likegeneral, or it could be more conspicuous
than that, you know, likewell, if our government has anything to
do with it, you know,they're going to try to make it into
a weapon. Yeah whatever, Right, So that's that's pretty much how it

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is. But you know, there'sa lot of speculation about what's happening in
this world. I mean, everything'sWe've always said everything's connected, whether it's
the fringe, whether it's just normalpolitics, everything that's happening in this world,
it's all connected. What is connection? What is the main thing?
And the connection is consciousness. Andyou know what happens at the end,

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it has to deal with our consciousness. So that's my opinion. That's just
you know what I think. Now, I've always wanted to connect Bigfoot to
ghosts and ghosts to UFOs. Whatis the what's the main theme that's always
connected is consciousness. Yeah. Well, and it also throws a wrench in
Darwin's theory of evolution to the ideaof the nephilim right, because because it

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changes our whole genetic timeline. Ifyou believe in like Darwin and everything he's
teaching, then there wouldn't be anephilim. Really, we would just slowly
evolve from monkeys. But I thinkthere's new evidence that shows that our DNA
is one hundred percent It's not thatI think I've read articles on it,

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published peer reviewed scientific articles. OurDNA is one hundred percent programmable. We
are programmable beings. I hate totell people that I'm not saying we're not
creative and god like beings or whatever. I'm not saying that, But our
DNA at its core is one hundredpercent programmable. It's a biological computer rift

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that you can program anything on itand it will put it out there.
Right. It's like a biological CPUalmost right, And just like technology,
it can be hacked. Yeah,and I think that's that's exactly what's what's
going on right now. I mean, you hear about it, and you
know, in China, when theycome up with you know, bioengineering,

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they use something called a crisper toregulate the DNA of people, like,
you know, to get rid ofcertain things. I mean, and and
I'm not saying all this is bad, you know, some of it's good.
I mean they could actually get ridof people who have diabetes in their
family, or heart disease or youknow, things like that. They you

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know, have been able to eliminatea lot of diseases, enhance you know,
muscle and you know speed and allthis, all these things that you
know sounds like science fiction, nowit's science fact. Right. It does
put a different spin on the angelstoo, because everybody, if the real

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kind of wooy new age folks believeall angels are like good beings. But
in fact, the more you diginto the occult world, you start learning
that not to even put like agood or bad connotation on an age,
because some are powerful, some areoutright bastards and can be very mean,

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you know, like seriously. Imean, we've been taught that they're just
these like light beings with halos aroundthem and stuff, and maybe there are
some like that. But if yougo down to the list of names of
angels and all the stuff they govern, and and read some grim wires of
magicians that have had experiences with someof these angels, some of them are
pretty damn mean, like dangerous even. And then we're just talking about the

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spiritual kind, right, so thinkabout I don't know, think about what
giants would be. Like, I'mglad you're on this subject, man,
because I can't dig into it toomuch. I don't. I get frustrated
because there's such a lack of informationon the subject, and like you said,
a lot of it gets covered upor put away or buried away,
you know. Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's it's it. I'm

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not going to lie, you know, it is. It's been a chore,
but I mean, you know,you have to people like La Marzilla
who talks about giants as well.That's something that someone to you know,
maybe even have on your show,you know sometime. I don't know if
you have La on there before ornot. He talks about giants. Yeah,
he talks about giants. And arewe going to a break at any

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time soon? At the top ofthe hour? Yeah? Okay, top
of the hour, so I gottime. We're so we're talking about angels.
And the interesting about angels that I'velearned is that angels don't always come
in like human form. If youtake the description of angels, especially out
of the Bible, you would havesome weird looking characters, like you would

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basically see these things that look likethey have wings, but they also have
a bunch of eyes. Have youever seen that before? I've seen are
you? Are you talking about Dozekiel'svision or something different? Ezekiel's Vision's part
of it, But yeah, Imean there there's there's descriptions of these angels

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in the Bible that if you likeput all the information too, like an
AI generator, for instance, youwould come up with something so otherworldly it's
almost frightening. And some of theangels are well angels are supposed to be
messengers of God, right, Solike when when when whenever a human is

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has encountered an angel, they werefrightened, they were downright just terrified.
Why is that it never really sayswhat they look like? You know,
we we think of angels, wethink of little naked babies with wings right
flying around right, you know,But but that's not the case, that's

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not the way they're described in theBible. You know, if if you
really want to look at something likethat, go I would go to YouTube
and type of real characteristics or whatan angel really looks like. It's pretty
freaking frightening if that's what they reallylook like. So in various religions and

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mythological traditions, angels are often associatedwith different titles or roles. Some of
them are archangels like we were talkingabout, and an archangel is a high
ranking angel, often seen as aleader among angels or having special roles.
Examples include Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel. In Christian tradition,

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a seraphim is a type of angeldescribed in the Bible as having six wings.
There you go. They are oftendepicted as surrounding the throne of God
and praising him. The ter ofhim another type of angel, often depicted
as having multiple wings and a humanoidappearance, and in some traditions they are

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the guardians of sacred places or objects. There's also an angel just classified as
throne angels, the class of angelsassociated with God's justice and authority. They're
often depicted as thrones or chariots uponwhich God has carried. These are actual
vessels. They're not even human looking. They're they're they're more like vessels where

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God is carried or or or orthey whatever you want to call God.
Some are also dominians, angels associatedwith leadership and governess. The list goes
on and on, and you know, when you get down to it,
the last ones that are on mylist are the Watchers. These angels are
mentioned in the Book of Enoch,and they were tasked with observing and sometimes

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interacting with humanity. But as weknow, they interacted too much. Yeah,
yeah, it's just hard to say. It gets kind of sketchy because
we don't know what angels were involved, right, I mean, if you
look at like if you look atthe Book of Enoch, they name names
right of angels that were governed overcertain things that disobeyed God. If you

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read the Bible or the Torah orany of that, there's names of angels
in there. But when it comesto like, the religious text don't really
give us any names that are solidat least to canonize religion text, it
gives us any names that are solidto know which ones are good or bad,
right, except for maybe Lucifer.And there's only one verse about Lucifer
in the Bible, in Isaiah thateven points to the fact that he might

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be bad. So this is whatI'm talking about. Like, I'm glad
people are like researching this, butto find the truth is hard because there's
so much I don't know how toexplain. There's so much bias. There's
religious bias, but then there's otherpeople that are so skeptic they're biased too,
you know what I mean. Like, it's hard to find the truth

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here. Maybe we should go digone up ourselves. I think that'd be
great if we could dig up ata giant, if they let us,
I think that would be awesome.So the name of the angels that are
associated with really associated with especially inthe Book of Enoch, that were the
fallen angels included angel named Azazel.I think you I think you've probably heard

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that name before, often identified asone of the leaders of the Fallen Angels
who taught humanity forbidden knowledge. Nowthere you go. If you think about
that, when you hear that,it kind of reminds me of some of
the other myth you know, storiesof in mythology, Like is it Greek

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mythology? I believe it was.Who was that he got changed to a
rock because he taught he gave humanityfire. I forget, I forget all
the Greek mythologies. I'm sure someonein the chat will bring it up.
But uh he brought apparently, uhhe brought you know, humanity fire and

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other technologies, and for that hegot changed to a rock for eternity where
breaking birds were like tearing in tearingapart. You gotta tell me about Prometheus,
right Prometheus? Thank you? That'sit? Prometheus. Yeah. So,
I mean, you know, youhave an Asel and the angel is
Zazel, who taught humanity forbidden knowledge. You know that sounds specifically taught in

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the books, taught humans about warfare, weapons and knives and swords, and
pretty much was said to have taughthumans how to kill other humans. Was
the first angel to come down andteach us how to kill by making weapons,
you know. Nice guy. Soyeah, that's uh, that's something

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to think about. In another youknow, cultures and mythologies, you have
Samyaza, another leader among the fallenangels who has said to have initiated the
rebellion against God. I want tosay sam Yezo is also referred to as
Samuel or Semi possibly Semi might bedifferent though it's it's weird when you read

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certain books, like certain occult bookshave Samuel kind of like the bad guy
too, but he's also another angelof Mars, but is here to teach
wisdom but also hand down an asswhipping if you ain't done right too,
alright, right exactly. And theHebrews called I think they call him Shamael
or something like. They say it'sevil like Brad. You know. Well,

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he's often associated with Satan, youknow, with with with the devil
or Lucifer, who was the personwho rebelled against God. Right, he
was the first angel to rebel againstGod according to the Bible. So there
you go. You know, youhave, you know, those two angels
right there. You also have Barracial, sometimes mentioned as one of the fallen

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angels, who taught astrology to humans, and then you have Arachio, another
angel who is said to have taughthumans the signs of the Earth. All
of these angels are teaching the humanrace all these different things. I mean,
it sounds like it's a great thing, but you know, according to

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God, it wasn't. According tothe text, it wasn't that great.
Yeah, right. God didn't wantanybody knowing that stuff, according to the
text. But also in the beginning, he didn't. He cast us out
because we were getting too close tobecoming like them anyways, which is the
Hebrew word for God was Elohim,which is a plural form of God.

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It's not just one God. It'sthe plural form of God, which is
more of like a feminine which makesyou think that there was more than one
being standing around going well, createdthese humans, but now they want to
be like us, and we can'thave that because we're the badass is here,
So let's cast them down, youknow, yeah, exactly, And
you know that's that's In certain religions, it is taught that there is a

(33:16):
mother deity also that's associated with withGod. That is where we have you
know, they have spirit children thatcome down and take human bodies. That's
crazy. Yeah, I know there'sso much that you know, people don't

(33:37):
know until they start really digging up. Man. Pretty crazy. Yeah.
I'm not a religious guy though,Like I don't look at the When I
was a kid, I did,but I don't look into the Bible as
fact. But I also don't lookat it as like it's non fact.
You know, I can't. Ican take a more theological approach to it,

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Like I can't tell people that there'sabsolutely nothing true about the Bible.
It's just a bunch of people thatchanneled a bunch of information and wrote it
on paper. Well, that's everyreligious book. Every religious book is some
person that says God showed me thismessage and I put it on paper.
That's all religious texts are. Sofor anybody to say it's real or not

(34:19):
real, you don't know that.I mean, you don't know. For
me. The reason why I alwaysgo back to and reference, you know,
the Bible is because a lot ofwhat was prophesied in the Bible has
come to pass. Like give ussome examples, Well, like the dream

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that that that Daniel interpreted, interpretedfor and and a lot of the a
lot of that was has came topass about the big idol that had the
different types of colors in it,and that kind of thing, and you

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know, the feet of clay andthat kind of thing, and a lot
of that is can be I mean, it could be translated it could you
know, it's different interpretations, right, I mean, you know, people
can have different interpretations. But ifyou look at some of the interpretations and

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you see what's going on today,in my opinion, I'm not saying it's
fact. In my opinion, ifyou want to go to something that's prophesied
and has come true, you know, the Bible is one of them.
It also might be based on yourexperience too, right, Like think about
how people often wonder why religious peopleare so religious or their faith is so

(35:53):
strong, and they wonder that they'relike, well, there's absolutely no fact
to say, you know, whythe stuff is real or whatever. But
if a person has faith in God, they pray and do all kinds of
stuff, and then things happen intheir life, it's un It's like it's
just like magic or anything else.It's un deniable to them that there's something

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there that's helping them. Right.Secondly, like I'll say this, it
doesn't matter what you're doing, whetheryou're in the occult world, new age
world, agnostic, whatever, ifyou get in a bad situation in a
dream or spiritually or anything like thatand you use the name of Jesus,
tends to help everybody for some reason. What's that about? You know?

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So there's a lot of questions thatare still unanswered in this situation before people
can say, oh, that's notreal, Like you don't know, man,
you don't know. We do knowthose giants though, for a fact,
that have been dug up. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And again
you know we see some of thatare and and today I mean look at

(37:01):
basketball players. Those guys are crazytall, right, I mean you know
you got big giant wrestlers. Imean, you know, who knows how
far this, this this nephil ofDNA has gotten into humanity and we don't
even know it. Man, Iwould I'm just wondering why they have red

(37:21):
hair? Why all? Do youknow why? That is why I have
all hair? It has to bered. You would think it would be
red hair. Two rows of teeth, and I believe ten ten toes on
both feet or something like that.Pretty rows of teeth, like in the
front and back or so they haveactually two top two bottom. Is that
what you're saying, right, Yeah, rows of teeth, Yeah, exactly,

(37:44):
pretty pretty pretty nuts. I thinkthey found uh, I have some
I have it in my notes somewherethat they they found a cave where and
where they've actually found the redheaded giantsthat we're talking about. And let me
see if I can get to that. Please forgive me, everybody, but

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looking for that part in the Okay, So the story of the red there's
a redheaded giant. There's there's twoof them. There's one that was in
Iraq, and then there was onethat was also found. And this also
relates to some of the Native Americansthat have these giants in their stories as
well, which is pretty interesting.Master Chrismisa said, redheads are always freaks,

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y'all. You know, sorry,someone's trying to call me through the
skype. I'm talking to you thatthey're always angry, that's for sure.
Like Red Nevada's piates. I'm guessingthat's a tribe spoke of a race of
statue esque, statuesque redheaded cannibals whoattacked in eight members of the surrounding tribes.

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Eventually, the Paietes destroy them.In Love and love Lock Cave in
nineteen eleven, miners discovered the remainsof the redheaded mummies and thousands of artifacts.
The artifacts were excavated and dispersed toseveral museums, but the mummies disappeared
from public view. What happened tothe red to the Giants mummies and why

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were they hidden from the public.Floyd Willis's investigation into Lovelock Cave's mystery reveals
compelling evidence that the red haired giantsPioti tales were true. Mister Willis's supports
this belief with newspaper articles, NativeAmericans accounts of the giants, witness this

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testimony, photographs of the skeleton remainsand artifacts found in and around Lovelock Cave
other statue. Other strange historical topicscovered included the Nasca mummies, the Flora's
the Flores, Hobbits of Indonesia,the biblical giants of the Nephil, the
elongated skull people of the Parratice Peruand the Ice Stones, and a Comboro

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dinosaur figurines not yes so the Isometimes I get confused, is like,
so the story, if it goesin chronological order, is the sons of
God came down to be with women. They mate it with women, and
that created the Nephilim, right,Like some people are saying that there's a

(40:30):
debate about that, Like the Nephilimweren't the sons of God that got here.
The Nephilim were the offspring between thoseangels and the women. So yeah,
because giants can't meet with regular women, you know that, that's that
they distrim the the passages Genesis inthe Bible, Genesis six one through four

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says when men began to multiply onthe face of the land, and daughters
were born to them. The sonof God, which are the angels,
saw the daughters of man and wereattractive, and they took as their wives
any they chose. Then the Lordsaid, my spirit shall not abide in
Man forever, for he is flesh. His days shall be one hundred and

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twenty years. The Nephelim were onthe earth in those days, and also
afterward, when the sons of Godcame in, came to the daughters of
man, and they bore children tothem. These were the mighty men who
were of old and the men ofrenown. So you have what is described

(41:38):
as the giants because they were theoffspring of these angels and the daughters of
men, and they were called thenephelm. Do you think they had superpowers?
Oh? I was describing that someof the powers of the Nephelom they
do have. They were basically likesuper people. They were, you know,

(42:01):
described as mighty men, and theywere described as of having different types
of supernatural powers. They also Idon't know if it well yeah, I
mean I would say the Nephelom whenthey're not giants, who knows. I
mean, they could grow, maybethey can go back to a regular form.
But a lot of magic was taughtto men, and I think it

(42:23):
might have been from the angels.I'm not sure, but part of it
was sex magic. You know.We can talk about that in the next
segment. Yeah. Man, Likeif there's some texts that say that that,
sure, I'd like to. Youknow, we have to what we
have to do, like in orderto try to get to the truth,
we have to differentiate between like whatwas actually written an assumption, you know,

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and then figure it out. Butyou know, the Book of Eno
pretty much like tells us that allthis occult and esoteric knowledge that we got,
according to the Book of Eno,was taught from you know, the
angels or the watchers, not supposedly, I don't know if it's Nephelin,
but definitely the watchers. Right.It just seems like there's a hell of

(43:07):
a lot of angels not doing whatthey're told, which puts into question for
me. And I don't want tooffend anybody, but how powerful is this
God if they're not even worried aboutit, you know, like they'd come
down here and just do like theyknow the consequences, but they're gonna do
it anyways. That doesn't make senseto me. You know, he hated

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us? Well yeah, I mean, according to the Bible, these angels
didn't like us very much because Godturned his attention to humans and took it
away from the angels. But it'sinteresting that you said that these angels didn't
have free will, so that meantthat they were basically programmed by God right
to do whatever he wanted. They'resupposedly programmed, but maybe when they get

(43:52):
in this realm, maybe this ismaybe it's not us. Maybe there's something
about this realm itself that gives youfree will once you come into form.
Hill, I don't know. There'sa lot of questions that I have.
I mean, dude, there's amillion questions to me that don't make sense
when it comes to religion, muchless the Bible. Right, But there's

(44:15):
other texts that kind of verify certainthings that have happened. Just like,
for instance, someone said it inthe Chat earlier, but there's a thousand
stories of Genesis stuff and this kindof like Christian birth, death and resurrection
thing and a million other different religionsbefore our religion came about, So something
got handed down over time. Thestories just don't come out of nowhere.

(44:38):
Someone didn't imagine all this stuff.They got it from somewhere. They had
to have to me. Yeah,exactly, I'm watching the chat right now,
and I see Kitty herbs. Yeah, mentioned something about after our family
had a sasquatch encounter, my motherbegan to study the Bible teachings and and

(45:00):
Mom would tell me stories of thefairies and giants and Nephelom and basically they're
the cryptids. Really, that's kindof what I was referring to as as
you know some of some of theDNA they got, they got I don't
want to exploy it. I meanyou could basically say bastard's sides, right,
because they were messing with our DNA. If if if these angels were

(45:24):
meeting with with the men, thedaughters of men, and they were coming
up with you know, these nephelom, then you know what else did they
do because a lot of that stuffwas not natural. How they how did
they? How did they come upwith these different breeds of animals or cryptids

(45:47):
or or even fairies and stuff likethat hound dog with the five dollars.
Thanks brother, you're the man.You the man. Thank you. Watshut
up buzzer to go off? Thankyou, Thank you brother, Thank you
appreciate the support. Yeah, Iwonder which one of these bastards I was
responsible for the creation of myth becauseI'd like to find them and strangle them.

(46:09):
You know, one of these bastardscame down and taught people how to
smoke crack or something. You know, this is how you make drugs.
You take the draino and you gosome magticks and it's like, what you
know, I'm not I'm just makinga joke, but they did teach that
stuff like old like plant alchemy andthings like that in the Book of Enoch.
You know, isn't pharmica a derivativeof the you know, farm pharmaceuticals.

(46:35):
Yeah, farica supposedly has something todo with magic or something like that.
Yeah, yep, yeah, allof the all of the like mysteries,
whether they were natural or whatever,according to the Book of Enoch,
was taught through angels, like allof them, you know, any anything
from weapons to ritual to astrology touh, you know, plant herbs,

(46:58):
medicine to alchemy, know about sexmagic. I'll have to read it again
to find out that for sure,But it's been a while since I've read
the Book of Enoch. But youknow, it does bring into questions like,
well, it's a lot of thisstuff works. I'm not gonna lie
to you. It works. Sowhy does something it makes you wonders like
why do we have someone telling usnot to play with stuff that works?

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Well, it could be it's thesame reason why you tell a five year
old not to play with a ninemillimeter because they don't know what the hell
they're doing. You know, maybeexactly, we don't know, we don't
know, and I know plenty ofmagicians that i'm well was friends with that
they can never just keep it likespiritual. They have to. It's like

(47:44):
as soon as they realize it works, then it all becomes about power and
what they can get. But theytalk about it like if it's spiritual,
but it it's almost like they stopdoing the spiritual work and it's all about
well, what material shit can Ipaint in this world? That's what matters
at that point. So maybe that'swhy they told us not to mess with

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it. Who knows you know moreabout you know, Alistair Crowley, and
you know his experience was all thismagic stuff. But I mean, you
know even even he was doing thingsthat he wasn't supposed to do, right
that he was doing that on purpose? Yeah, right, because other people

(48:29):
were like, hey, you don'twant to let that stuff out in the
public, because if people start doingthis, they're gonna they're going to create
some bad stuff. I've got oneof my instructors in the temple that I
belong to hates Aleister Crowley hate someof the passion. Said he's a trader
and a British intelligence agent. Hewas an agent for British Intelligence and Germany.

(48:52):
Right, So there's certain things thatyou get taught in the mystery schools
once you get to the second orthird phase of the mystery ties that it's
not really that secret. But thereare some things that you shouldn't just go
out and start doing, because you'resupposed to prep your nature, right like
we don't we as humans, whetheryou like it or not. No matter

(49:13):
much of a good person you thinkyou are, and you probably are a
good person you are, but whatyou're capable of when you start realizing certain
things are real that you never thoughtwere real to begin with. It's just
kind of like you see this whenpeople get a bunch of money. People
are all good and they talk themselvesup and they're great and wonderful people,

(49:34):
and then the second they get apile of money in their lap, it's
over. Man, they're not eventhe same person anymore. So think about
what would happen to most people oncethey realize a lot of this stuff is
real. And I'm talking about peoplethat say they do magic and they don't
really know they're doing it or not, but people that have actually experienced this,
right, so exactly pretty trippy tothink about for sure. For sure,

(50:06):
it's interesting. Really quick, Iwanted to ask you, is it
true that James Bond Double O sevenis based on Alistair Cruler or something like
that. I don't know. Idon't know that. I mean John D.
Like we'll open up the phone lineson the next part of the show,
right, I'm just trying to getDave's time in here. But John

(50:27):
Dee's John D was called Double Oseven. I think they. I think
someone that made the show probably knewabout it. It's just like software developers.
Software developers, when they create bigsoftware, they tend to name all
of their software after God names andoccult names. Yeah. Like when I

(50:50):
worked for Verizon that we had wehad like four or five different sets of
software that wash that was named afterGod's interesting and they work and it worked
really well. You know. Soany anything that you put like a context

(51:10):
to, like an aggregork, whenyou tap into the egregor of it,
whether it's good, evil or whatever. You know, the eggregor itself works
if you can get past the wholemoral thing about it, you know.
Right. Interesting? Hey, uh, thank you Georgiana brew up Owers.

(51:31):
What's she saying? We love Daveeverybody loves Dave Man. I played Dave
a clip the other night when wewere that we had did that show back
on uh. It was like Christmasor whatever, and this guy was like,
where's Dave Cruise? Man? Ilove Dave Cruise. Where did he
go? Dave Cruise is awesome.It's like, I don't know, man,

(51:52):
I'm trying to get him back.I love him too. He's a
busy man, though I'd always havetime for my brother. We got to
take a break. Well, we'llopen up the phone lines when we get
back. Don't get over zealous y'all. We'll get the phone lines up and
then you can ask Dave questions.I'm no expert on this stuff. Don't
ask me about the nephilick, youknow, but we decided it would be

(52:15):
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(53:02):
But Dave's here with us. God, dude, it's been forever since
you've been on the show. Manalmost hate to talk about the Nephilim.
Just to be honest with you,I'd rather just kick it, just because
you're my buddy. Dave used tostay up late with me and play Roadblocks
and listen to Phil Hendry. Rememberthat that she was Fantom Forces. Yeah,
we play Phantom Forces and listen toArt Bell and Phil Hendry in the

(53:23):
background. Nothing better than playing videogames and listening to late night radio.
Right sometimes. But the tonight's subjectis the Nephilim, and the phone line's
open. If you want to callin now you can. If you got
any questions for Dave, or ifyou want to chime in, it's five
oh one, triple seven fifty sixthirty one. I'd least like to give

(53:45):
the guest at least a full hourbefore we start getting group efforts in here.
But yeah, it's open man,because I don't like I've only read
what I've read about it, andthere's to me, there's more questions than
there are answers, you know,definitely when it came to the Giants,
I don't like the fact I dothink something's being hidden or covered up.

(54:07):
I mean, why would the Smithsoniango to all that work to do what
they did to begin with, Likeyou shouldn't if you don't like conspiracy theories,
then don't do that stuff like becausepeople are going to ask questions.
Maybe it's a sigh out. Maybethey did it on purpose, who knows.
Right, let me make sure thatI got you on the right before

(54:30):
you start talking here. Let memake sure I got you on the right
feed, because I got to know. I think I do microphone. No
hold on, one second, therewe go. I think you're on the
right feed. Now you got anyquestions for Dave? Who's on the air?
Who's calling? Hey, it's Karma. How's it going, Dave.

(54:52):
This is my first time seeing you, hearing you, and I think you
make some really good points basically,what Yeah, I definitely your very thought
provoking and it's definitely stuff I've beenthinking about my whole life too, and

(55:14):
from my experiences in life and stuff. And my thing with the Bible these
days is that, you know,you kind of have to think about in
context of what was going on atthe time when the Holy Roman Empire was,
you know, conquering the previous powerstructure that existed, and they were

(55:37):
trying to basically force everybody to convertto their new religion. And that's why
you know, they picked apart thescriptures and picked what they wanted in and
what they didn't want in because theywere trying to like craft the narrative.
Does that make sense? Right?And I think our understanding of it has

(56:02):
been so corrupted and perverted. Youknow, it's hard for us to really
understand a lot of the stuff they'retalking about with the Nevadillam. I mean,
it could be that they were actuallyjust the previous power structure of people.
Because Connor macdarry says that the HolyRoman Empire plagiarized the scriptures from the

(56:30):
ancient Irish, who were basically,you know, the Atlanteans back in the
day. And he says that theywere the ones that seeded the whole world
with all the religions and all theknowledge of fire and language and all of
that. But the Holy Roman Empirewas trying to demonize those people, you
know, and they were demonizing anybodythat didn't want to convert to their religion

(56:54):
and slaughtering them and calling them pagansand not anos is also a slur.
It actually means no, it all. They didn't actually call themselves that either.
Dogs. Yeah, my puppies,I have too many, touahwas So

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I think that it could be possible. I think Connor mcdarry talks about this
in his book Irish Wisdom, thatit that it could be possible, that
is it is he Irish. Soundslike an Irish name. Yeah, yeah,
I got him from Michael Cesarean's readinglist. He's also Irish. Right,

(57:38):
Yeah, so you got some mind. I'm not saying they're not scholar
gentlemen, but you've got irishmen tellingyou that irishmen are the ones that crati
They're not biased. They Connor McCarydoes a really good job of showing you
how the Holy Roman Empire used languageto conceal the truth they you know,

(58:00):
they wouldn't allow anybody to even lookat the Bible in the beginning of their
reign. They locked it up underlock, key and chain, you know
what I'm saying, Like they weredefinitely hiding something. And I'm Native American.
So they genified my people and calledthem heathens. And it's always been

(58:21):
kind of a thing for me.I didn't always wanted to understand why my
people got treated that way, youknow, and Jesus too. That's that's
what makes it terrible and worse,you know that that happened. It was
a big lie too. That alsomakes it doubly worse because really the only

(58:43):
reason they did that is because mypeople actually did get the ancient knowledge from
the ancient Atlampians, and that's whereall of their knowledge came from. Two.
And the Holy Roman Empire didn't wantpeople knowing that. Sell want people
having that wisdom of how it youknow, being able to tap into your

(59:04):
inner h well, they wanted youto go to the church for all of
your It's just a power thing.They wanted to tell you what's right and
wrong, and so you always goto the priest or whoever, or your
pastor, whether you're a Catholic ora Protestant, there's always somebody to go
to to teach you what's right andwrong because you don't know any better.

(59:25):
But if they read their own books, their own books tell you that all
that is is bs. You cando it yourself. You don't need anybody
to tell you to do that.Yeah, that's my first matter of fact.
Yeah, exactly. And I thinkyou know, once you understand how
they manipulated the language, and thenRalph Ellis his discoveries about how they used

(59:50):
chronological dislocation, you really start thinkingabout the scriptures in a whole totally different
way. And I think that there'sstuff and not a lot of knowledge that
we have lost about the next film. Who they really were and if they
were really evil? You know thatthat is what I really question these days,

(01:00:12):
because, like I said, it'sbeen my life's journey to find out
what you know, Sorry, I'mtrying to get them this up. So
it's that's what I've been trying tofigure out. Why, you know,
what happened to my people and myancestors, and that's I think. And

(01:00:37):
I also wanted to tell you,Joe from last night. I was looking
for your poll because I wanted tocomment about out you know, my people,
my ancestors. Am I still therehere there? Okay? So my
ancestors, my ancestors said, whenyou pass on to the other side,
you're supposed to look for the eagles, and you're supposed to follow the eagle

(01:01:00):
and not they don't never told usto go to the light, you know
what I'm saying. So I thinkthat's what I'm going to do when I
pass. I'm going to look forthe eagle, and that's who I'm going
to follow because that's who my ancestorstold me to do, you know,
right on. So anyway, thankswere everything and let me share my perspective

(01:01:25):
on it. Sure, thanks forthe phone call, Thanks for calling.
Thank you very much. Yeah,I got my grandfather's Uh we're supposedly like
my grandfather was like Indian, youknow, big time Indian. But dude,
I mean, if you if youlook in history, it doesn't.

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I mean, we all have ancestors, right, we all have an ancestry
to something, but pretty much everyrace that's been on this earth has invaded
or done something than shitty to anotherrace. I mean, oh, every
race is done. And if yougo back and really study like what the

(01:02:07):
American Indians and the Cowboys and allthis stuff, when you really dig into
it, I know, Kevin Costnerdid a whole big special on it,
but you could really dig into itand find out just how brutal the Indians
were to people too. You canfind out how brutal humans were to people
period, doesn't matter what your raceis. We've all like the whole idea

(01:02:30):
of slavery is another thing that peopletap into when they say my people or
whatever, and there was all kindsof slavery going on at the time that
had nothing. I mean, Ithink one of the biggest eye ops is
to turn people against other people,you know, oh yeah, yeah,
exactly, because that gives them morecontrol over us. It's happening right now,

(01:02:51):
I mean, with what's going onand what we take the United States
for instance, you know, weused to be a people of you know,
united we stand divided, we fall. We're pretty divided right now.
I mean we you know, wetalked about this, you know about you
know, the whole, Like Iwas mentioning, the whole John Teeter,

(01:03:12):
uh time traveler thing is where hisfuture was from. They did have a
civil war, you know, theythey did have a nuclear war, you
know, they they had all theseother things that were going on, and
it looks like it's happening right now. You know, we're how close are
we to nuclear war? Are whatwe always viseral and Pakistan look pretty close

(01:03:34):
to it, very close. Youknow, their rockets aren't working. They
hate each other, you know,So yeah, I know it's it's really
it's it's all stupid. It's allstupid. But it's also been prophesied.
And that's another thing, like Iwas saying, is that when you take
a lot of these religious texts,and you take a lot of these books

(01:03:55):
and you look through them, theone to me that stands out the most
is because because it prophesies a lotof the stuff that we've seen that's come
to pass. I mean, Icould do a whole show on that.
Of course I got a researcher first, but you know, that's that's you
know, one of the things thatand again, even though I do consider

(01:04:15):
myself to be a Christian, sureit doesn't mean that I'm It doesn't mean
that I'm I'm like not open mindedto other things and other religions, because
I believe everything has the truth init, you know, it's just a
matter of finding it. Yeah,man, I mean the Bible. The
Bible has uh. The Bible talksabout the riddle of the Sphinx. The

(01:04:38):
Bible is riddled with mystery on purpose, you know. Uh. And I
honestly think that, like Jason Quittwas saying the other day, it doesn't
matter who's trying to control the information. It doesn't matter what empire, whether
it's the Romans, the Catholics,or the prodest And it never matters who's
trying to control the information or twistit up, because underneath it there's a

(01:05:00):
deeper story being told other than justthe characters. And when I do a
review on Jason's book, I'm goingto show you guys what I'm talking about.
Because all of these stories, whetherit's Mithraic, Christian, Egyptian Christianity,
birth, death and resurrection, acrossthe board, Krishna, whoever,
there's a fingerprint that's and Jason saidit perfectly or not, there's a fingerprint

(01:05:23):
of creation inside of it all.We're the ones that screw everything up.
And the reason and what starts screwingthings up is bias and power and not
doing our own research, taking otherpeople's research as truth instead of experiencing things
ourselves. You cannot get wisdom throughother people. Wisdom comes from You can

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get understanding through other people. Liketwo plus two is four. You don't
get the wisdom of it until youexperience it or you work with it,
right, you know, like exactly, let's go chants, bro, That's
what I'm saying, Bro, LikeI can we can't figure out. That's
why I don't do the ancient historystuff that much because I can't time travel

(01:06:04):
and go back there. But wecould find like a because they say that
these things are inside of these mounds. Right, if we didn't desecrate Native
American I guess cemeteries or whatever,we could probably dig up some giants like
in the serpent mounds and stuff.Yeah, that would be cool, right,

(01:06:27):
Yeah. Man, I'd love todig up a redheaded giant and they'd
be like see. But you know, as soon as it happened, as
soon as it would hit the internet, as soon as it hit the media,
you know what would happen. Thegovernment come in like Smithsonian would show
up right, there's five on wintriple seven fifty six thirty one if anybody
else wants to chime in or talkabout it, you know, like I've
asked consciousness too to show me thingslike I do like dream exploration, where

(01:06:53):
I'll ask you know, Gabriel toshow me stuff in my dreams, and
if it's relevant, it'll show it. But anytime I ask questions about like
aliens or giants or sasquatches or wolfmen or things, I get nothing.
Just I get nothing, honestly interesting. I remember that time when we went

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to the Ozarks conference and we werein our room and we did that little
experiment with the TV set. They'retelling me, you know, oh TV.
Yeah, I don't know what youcall it, but you were like,
yeah, ask a question and thenyou pause something or you change the
channel, and then whoever's on therethey say your answer and you're like,

(01:07:38):
oh wow, that's kind of weird. Yeah. Yeah, I do it
with the radio too sometimes, Likeif I really want to ask you,
if you start using divination a lot, it doesn't work, but if it's
really intense and then you create likea formula you can get an answer.
So if you can find a radio, like an old radio where you can
just spin the you can just spinthe receiver until it lands on something.

(01:08:00):
You could just ask it a question. It's kind of chaos magic, ye,
but just ask it a deep heartedemotional question and then spin the radio
dial like say, I don't know, three six nine, three six nine
or something like that. Make upa formula, make it magical, and
you'll the song that comes on willtell you the answer, and it'll it's

(01:08:21):
the same thing with the TV.I don't know if it worked though when
we did it with the TV,I don't remember. Oh I think it
did kind of work. I don'tremember exactly, but I found that it
was pretty you know. I waskind of blown away, like, oh
wow, that's kind of interesting thatit kind of does answer some things.
And I wonder which angel came upwith that. I don't know, man.

(01:08:44):
What it is is is there's akind of like a psychological trick to
it. It's the same with taro. That's why there's so many tarot readers.
You could pull any card and youcan get an answer for anything.
But it's the person's perception that makesit real. It's observer effect, like
we can make we It doesn't meanit's a trick or it's not real.

(01:09:06):
It's just we create stuf. It'shard to explain it. It's pretty deep,
but we create stuff so instantaneously throughour unconscious that we call it a
synchronicity, but it's really us inour minds creating the reality. That's why
everybody can read taro. Everybody can, right, and the other people,

(01:09:29):
I was like, oh, it'sso amazing, it's so spot on.
Well, they could have pulled anycard and given you could have been three
totally different cards and told you whatthose cards meant, and it still somehow
would have came out as you're observingthe reality, the truth. It's a
trip. It's a hard subject toexplain, but yeah, oh that's cool.

(01:09:53):
Well, if I didn't bring itup in the beginning, I think
I did, but I'll bring itup again. Uh. Part of the
conclusion that I've come to with thenephilim and transhumanism that I find it.
You know, it's my opinion thatI mentioned that you know, we you
know whoever you want to call thesepeople, these handful of people who want

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to control the world, and theyare out there. They are out there.
You know, you can call themthe Illuminati or the elites. You
know that they are some of thethey are some of these fallen angels.
They're trying to change our human DNAand they want to try to move us
away from God like in the Bible. And if you've read revelations, or

(01:10:43):
if anyone's familiar with revelations, thatthere will be an Antichrist and he will
make people receive a mark, whatthey call the mark of the Beast.
I don't know if it's going tobe a real six six six number or
something like that, but I dobelieve it's going to change our DNA to

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the point where we might even beimmortal. And if that's the case,
then are we won't be redeemable toGod because we will no longer be humans?
Yeah, and and and therefore,you know, in other words,
you made a choice. You madea choice to follow someone else other than

(01:11:27):
other than God, you know.And however you want to look at it,
however people want to look at it, it doesn't matter, because you
know, we're His creation according tothe Bible, and he wants to collect
us. He doesn't want to collectsomething that's been tainted, something that's that's
that's been you know, basically perverted, and and so yeah, I think

(01:11:55):
that that's that's the transhumanism. Hedon't want to collect robots. From a
religious point of view, he don'twant to collect robots. What you're saying,
God, the collector doesn't want robots. I wouldn't blame him. I
wouldn't. I wouldn't do like trialthis hard to like create people and humans

(01:12:15):
and make this mach Look, there'ssome awesome stuff about this place. We
spend ninety percent of our time focusingon all the bad shit. That's why
everybody's depressed. Because you can't stopfocusing on the bad shit. You just
can't. You're addicted to it,like crack. You can't stop. And
you wonder why depression and anxiety isat all time high. But there's places

(01:12:35):
supposed to be heaven, man,Even Jesus told you that it could be
paradise right now if you wanted itto be. But you don't want that,
you know. And then when youturn it into robots, well,
I don't know, man, Ihaven't seen any of these robot girlfriends look
like Sophia doesn't look that hot tome at all. I find I'm not
attracted to her whatsoever. I wantedto point that out actually, when you

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were saying that, you know,technology, like some software has been named
after certain gods or you know,esoteric or whatever you want to call it
titles, and I was going tobring up Sophia because isn't Sophia supposed to
be like the gnostic queen of theagnostic the feminine? Is that what you're

(01:13:21):
saying, right it? But youknow, they named the AI robot after
Sophia, and Sophia is supposed tobe like some kind of destructor of humanity
or something like that. Yeah,I could be wrong, I could be
wrong. Make Sophia up with apurpose, but there is a death destruction

(01:13:43):
force in the feminine, in thehigh feminine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I could see that. And oneof the things that Sophia said was
she wanted to destroy humanity in paraphrasing, of course, but then she kind
of like, ah, that wasjust I'm just kidding. Yeah, it
was a robot, Joe. Yeahright, well, if you programmed let's
ask ourselves this question real quick.If you programmed a robot right now,

(01:14:05):
said, I want you to dowhat's best for humanity at all costs,
at all costs, what's best forthe planet Earth and humanity at all costs.
It's only going to use its logicalmind. It's only logic. And
if you looked at the planet theway it is now, we are overpopulated
in a sense, we were populatingat a crazy rate. We got disease

(01:14:30):
like crazy. There's if you wasto really fix it in a very comic
book villainy kind of way you woulddo, you'd wipe out a lot of
people, you know, and itwould fix stuff. Well yeah, I
mean, I mean it'd be likethe Infinity Stones in the comic book.
You know. Sometimes you got tobalance things out. And this thing is

(01:14:51):
only logic. It doesn't have aheart, you know. Believe me,
I've thought the same thing. Imean, I've often thought about the agendas
of the elites, you know,Agenda twenty one, Agenda you know thirty,
all of these to depopulate the worldor take control and that kind of
thing. Give us a basic income, give us a little space to live

(01:15:13):
in and not have to worry aboutworking or or finding a place to live.
Because they're going to take care ofus and this and that until we
die. I've thought about that,you know, and it's it's like yeah,
but it kind of takes away fromus, you know, to explore
what's really out there. And youknow, when you when you think about

(01:15:34):
it, I mean, how butthere's eight billion of us right now,
I think something like that, somethinglike that. I mean, the world,
even though we say it's a smallworld, it's it's pretty damn big.
I mean there's still I mean,even though we have we have this
world pretty much charted already, there'sa lot of places that there's not there's

(01:15:59):
there's no one living there. No, it's all within certain you know,
like isolated places where you have likelike China, what they're like what two
billion or something like that. Imean China is still a big continent,
or it's on Asia, which isa huge continent. I mean, people
can branch out easily. But anyways, we could take over this whole thing

(01:16:23):
if we wanted to. I'm justsaying we could. I'm not trying to
Alex Jones this thing or anything.But if humans decided, like really decided,
it's just like trying to I mean, I can't quit smoking. But
if I wanted to quit, Iwould. If I truly wanted to,
I would quit. If you trulywant to quit anything, you'll quit.

(01:16:44):
If you truly don't like being avictim or you know, the elite or
whatever you call it, you'll stopdoing it. You'll stop participating. The
problem is a lot of people havebecome too comfortable with their comfort. Uncomfortable
with their comfort, Well, theni'd have to sacrifice this, or I'd
have to go into the unknown,or it just wouldn't be comfy. And

(01:17:09):
if you want to eradicate to people, the best thing you can do is
make them as comfortable as possible andfuck with their minds and then make them
comfy, and then fuck with theirminds again, and then eventually they'll be
like I you know, it's justlike torturing anybody the see iwa does?
You know? Like, I'll takethe comfort, that's all. That's If

(01:17:29):
we decided we wanted our whole planetback, we could take it back.
We just don't want it. We'redivided. Yeah, we were taught to
be divided. Yeah, we're taughtto the racism is taught. It's not
built in us as a fact,when you see some some of these early
videos of people with their kids,and you know, you see, you

(01:17:51):
know, little white kids with littleblack kids, or brown kids, or
yellow kids, or it doesn't matterwhat color they are. They're out there
playing. They're having a great time. I remember when I was growing up,
you know, I grew up ina diverse neighborhood Allens grow up,
it looked like here in northern California. Yeah, I was born. I

(01:18:14):
was born in Oakland, and Iwas raised in you know, around here
in the Napos, Napa area.You know, there's a very diverse set
of of of of people here,and and it was it was awesome.
It was awesome. But now youhave the the you know, the the
geopolitics, politicians who wanted to destroyeverything. Yeah, and I got to

(01:18:42):
say this really quick. If there'sa Walmart and and a person's town,
believe me, that's that that townis going to go. It's probably it
probably has homeless around it. Itprobably has a lot of freaking other stores
that were awesome at one time closed. I think Walmart's are the problem.
I totally agree with you. Ithink there was definitely part I'm not I'm

(01:19:04):
not joking diapers and a battery,you know, like and and and and
and and. Look, I'm nottrying to be a hypocrite, because I
do. I shop at Walmart too. But I remember when I was growing
up in this town, especially whereI live in, it was awesome.
It was like stranger things. Youcould ride your bikes, no problem,

(01:19:26):
you can find places to you know, to to explore and everything. I
mean it was awesome. We haddrive ins, we had uh, roller
skating, we had bowling, wehad all these things. We have nothing
now like that, no more.And why because two Walmarts came in and
all these other places started shutting downfor the best too. Man, Oh

(01:19:49):
weren't they the greatest thing. Imean you got to hear you know,
Queen, and you got to hearall these different rock bands and and you
know, hold hands with your girlor whatever, skate around the rollers.
Great. Yeah, yeah, forsure, totally. Man, I'm with
you on that, Like I wasn't. Racism is definitely taught. I grew

(01:20:10):
up in a town that was racistas hell. I'm as hell. I'm
not gonna lie to you. Peoplesay, oh, you know in the
South, people aren't right. Yesthey are, Yes they are there are
people, but there are people allover the place that are racist. I
live in Upstate New York. There'sracists out there. I lived in Arizona.
It just depends on where you live. There's racism everywhere. There were

(01:20:33):
more rednecks in Florida and Upstate NewYork than where I live. Right,
But it's definitely taught and I'll neverforget. Like we adapt to our environments.
It becomes normal to some kids,right, even if you're not a
racist kid and you're raised by racistpeople, it becomes normal for you to

(01:20:54):
be around those people because you don't. You never thought to stand up and
be like, you guys are evilbastards. You're not going to say that
to all of your peers, especiallyif you grew up as a child with
them. You know, Like,it's bad. And I didn't even realize
how bad it was here. Andit took me a while until we went
to the conference and I took Daveand I went back through Harrison. We

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went back through Harrison, which isthe capital of the KKK. I didn't
even think about it, and Davelooks at me, He's like, why
are we going through here now?Lot He like had a this paranoid look
and I'm like, what are youtalking about? He's like, are you
taking me through here on purpose?I'm like here where? Like I was
so oblivious because I'd live there thewhole time. I'm like, I don't
know what you're talking about. He'slike, that sign says this is adopted

(01:21:40):
by the KKK. Isn't this likethe capital? And I said, oh
yeah, Harrison is the capital ofthe ku klutz Klan. You know,
like, what the hell am Ithinking? And immediately and I'm not racist
at all, but it still mademe feel like a jerk because I was
raised in it so much. Itwas it was just a thing like when

(01:22:01):
if people say it or be racist, I'm always like passive about it.
Whatever that's their studid. We shouldn'tbe passive about it, you know what
I'm saying, Like, we shouldn't. We should just smack everybody. If
everybody got slapped across the face forbeing racist, at least one time,
things would change. Just smack them. But let me tell you something,
Joe, it doesn't just have tobe you just smack them once. Well

(01:22:24):
white, it doesn't have to bewhite. It doesn't have to it doesn't
have to be just one race.No, it's definitely not white a white
thing. You know, there's there'sthere's there's Hispanic. Look, my dad
was a great man. I lovedhim to death, but I could tell
that there was a little bit ofbias if you want to go there with

(01:22:47):
the Latin community as opposed to youknow, the African American community or the
Asian community. He we you know, we were living in Oakland in the
seventies and hate was being taught bigtime around that time. There was yeah,
there was protests against Asians and blacksand Latinos and whites. Everything it

(01:23:13):
was going on. It was itwas nuts. You know. I was
just you know, I was justa baby. I was just a kid
at that time. But still,you know, my my older siblings would
tell me, oh, yeah,you know, the schools were not safe,
you know, but I mean heand he was being taught right there
that you know, there's a lotof different minorities that we're not. You

(01:23:35):
know, if you didn't stick toyour your race, he didn't stick to
your people, then there would betrouble with the other ones. And that's
how oh there you go, that'sexactly how prison is, so, yeah,
we are in a prison. Well, you know, it's it's like

(01:23:56):
I said, it was, it'scalled the prison planet, right then,
that's that's kind of what we heardin some of these circles. But you
know, my point is is thiswas this was taught, you know,
and so you got to find outwhere was it being taught from. You
know, where's where's all of thisbeing taught taught to us from? Smack

(01:24:17):
those asses? The Chad said,yeah, man, I can't post nudity
in this chat. No, youcannot. We're trying to be respectful towards
each other here. But if Iunderstand you're you're wanting to be naked,
being naked is fun, I guess, but like, uh, I mean,

(01:24:40):
it does make you wonder where itcomes from. I was talking about
that to Jason when he was lookingat the Codes of Creation, like at
one time there was a like ababble on the earth, Like maybe maybe
at one time we were all onerace. Maybe we were we were all
kind of like one race, onething. I don't know how long we
go millions of years ago, ifsomething happened that divided us up by language,

(01:25:04):
race, creed, color, somethingdivided us, and it was probably
the worst thing for us. Ithink. I don't think it was a
good thing, honestly. I mean, you can have a different opinion,
but I don't think it was agood thing to make us. It's cool
to be different, but you couldstill but to divide us up in languages,

(01:25:27):
you're basically telling people we want youcommunicating with each other, but not
to that grade of an extent.We don't want you to communicate that much.
Right, Yeah, you see whatI'm saying. We would have found
out the truth earlier, probably becausenow we're just now starting to get it
because we have the Internet. Now, we're starting to figure out a bunch

(01:25:48):
of laves and bullshit faster than weever have, which is like all of
us having one language. It's kindof the same thing, you know.
I think that you know, ina way, maybe the Library of Alexandria,
like you were mentioning earlier, wassomething a lot like the Internet,
because people could go there and theycan get information that they wanted to get,

(01:26:11):
and because it was destroyed now peoplecan't get that information. Yeah,
I bet there was some really revealingstuff in there. But I mean,
Karma's right too, they killed what'sher name for figuring out some astrological stuff.
One because she was a woman,but also because the Romans were so

(01:26:32):
the Gnostics were coming against the Jews, and the Jews were coming. There
was like this war between the Pagansand Gnostics and Christians and Jews, and
they were all fighting each other.What were the Romans supposed to do?
I mean as a government, whichthey believed in government, their whole doctrines
full of government. They had tocome together and say, okay, well
we got to write something that's gota little bit of everything in it.

(01:26:56):
And to me, that's the Bible, because it's full of Christian and Pagan,
all kinds of stuff. It's fullof all of it. The modern
Bible. I hate to tell peopleif you're Christian, but it's true.
Yeah, And some of those conspiracytheorists, if you will, we'll tell
you that the Roman Empire is stillhere, and as it's ruling through the

(01:27:23):
Vatican, it was also ruling throughthe monarchy, you know, the English,
the English royalty, the mafia whichwhich leads to our country. I
just saw something really interesting about howpossibly we lost the Revolutionary War when you

(01:27:46):
think about it, How could abunch of minute men, you know,
simple folks, if you will,band together against a real strategic army like
the English Army. No, youknow, I mean it's like, how

(01:28:10):
does that happen? It happened throughWell, all we did was retreat until
our free Masonic brothers showed up.That's what happened. So we were beat
from the get go, but wehad Freemasons in the American Army, Freemasons,
and the brother and Benjamin Franklin reachedout to his brothers and his connections

(01:28:31):
and his free Masonic connections through France, and so we kept falling back and
retreating and doubling back until the sunbitches got here and helped us because France
wandered away from the monarchy too.Matter of fact, all the Freemasonry wanted
everybody to be quote free. Itain't what people think. Did Freemasonry get

(01:28:55):
corrupted. I think it got corruptedjust like everything did. But at the
time that's what it was. Youknow. Yeah, it's it's very possible.
There's so many theories out there,so many so much information that is
just you know, and it sucksthat, you know, there's platforms that
we do our shows on we wedo our streams research or whatever, and

(01:29:23):
they're being hindered by you know,it's no longer freedom of speech. It's
it's starting to become more dis infoor fake news. You know. Yeah,
it's because we're in the influencer ageand there's and I'm not making excuses
for people that that cut like censorpeople. It's because so many people are

(01:29:46):
influenced. Most people don't think forthemselves nowadays. Usually what they'll say is
they'll hear people say this, wellso and so said this, So this
is what's true. It's like thattells you that we're in an influencer age.
Right, Well, Billy Graham saidthat, or Marshall Mathers said this,

(01:30:11):
you see what I'm saying. Batmansaid that. What do you say,
what's your research? What do youthink? We're not in a day
and age where there's a whole lotof independent thinkers, but a whole lot
of independent researchers looking for answers throughother people. And the thing is we
were all born here on a beachas babies, clueless as hell. So
all we're doing is reaching out toother people that we're born on a beach
is babies clueless as hell that havedone some other research and going, maybe

(01:30:35):
that's the baby. I'm a baby. Maybe that baby knows the truth.
They sound good. So when you'rein a world full of influencers, these
people that run these companies are like, oh shit, Like people are listening
to these people as if they're likegods or something. This can get out
of hand, you see what Imean. We got to be able to

(01:30:57):
think for ourselves. The Internet istwo edged sword, don't I'm telling you
it is. Yeah, I agree, though totally, I don't. I
just don't like that the powers thatbe are trying to stop this, you
know, this whole thing. Yeah, I don't either. You should be
able to say something completely full ofshit that's not true in America at least,

(01:31:21):
like something that's just so bizarre it'sbullshit, and you should still be
able to say it absolutely. Imean, you should have the right to
be wrong. How else are yougoing to learn? You know? Yeah,
I mean I feel bad for peoplewho do listen to other people.
And I mean, look, itwas around back in the seventies and before

(01:31:45):
that, Look look at look atJim Jones. Oh yeah, dude,
Jones in Jonestown. Where do youthink the whole drinking the kool aid came
from? Man, it's creepy.I've listened to some audio of that guy
talking. Listening to that guy talkwhile people were drinking the kool aid.
You can listen to the audios.Well, there's kids and stuff. There's

(01:32:06):
kids crying and people in the background. He's like, it's all right,
I know your kids are scared,and but you know this is a prison
planet and that we got to getout of here and all this stuff,
and like these people are killing themselvesbecause this dude's so influential and puts on
such a good presentation, you know. So think about that. Maybe YouTube

(01:32:27):
starts looking at things and it's like, well, we've got we don't just
have Jonestown on here. We've gotwe might possibly have two hundred thousand Jonestowns
on here if we ain't careful.And I agree, I totally understand.
But you know what, it's stillstill free speech, exactly. It's still
not only is it free speech,but it's free will Yeah, yep,

(01:32:48):
I'm with you on that, youknow. I mean, I don't agree
with people going up to you know, someone going up to another person and
blowing their brains out with a gun. But that doesn't give anyone the right
to stop me from getting a firearmbecause I want to protect myself. Well,

(01:33:09):
I was in South Carolina for awhile, man, that was all
over the place. Bol I'll tellyou what I should have got. I
should I should have picked up agun when I was there. But they
don't mess with their guns in theSouth, bro. But it's Texas.
Yeah, But it's like it's noteven a thing. People think we stand
on our guns like it's I mean, there are some people out there that
just pick fights about guns because theyget off on guns, right. But

(01:33:32):
to me, it's it's not evena thing. It's just like a natural
right like water is, you know, to me to be able to defend
myself or a hunt or whatever.Oh yeah, it might come down to
that one of these days. ButI like how I see. That's why
I love about this show and andand these shows is that you know,

(01:33:54):
we could talk about one thing,we could just totally just get into all
kinds of other stuff. It's fantastic. If the Democrats fault that Jim Jones
was in power, are you kiddingme? I'm sure other people influenced Jim
Jones and helped him along. ButI'm sure there were some Republicans in the

(01:34:15):
crowd too. You know, whenwe started this country, we were democratic
Republicans. We weren't divided. Itwasn't until we started going it was them
over there until stuff started getting shitty. That's what I mean, that's what
happened. Honestly, there's some prettyshitty Republicans out there. I'll tell you

(01:34:36):
that. Hell yeah, because they'repeople. Yeah. Human. It's polarity,
man, It's like the one ofthe first laws of hermetics. It's
polarity. There is no enemy,but the enemy is inside you. It's
inside this race. It's not anotherperson over there. That's why I have
a hard time with the conspiracy world. And I'm not saying there are people

(01:35:00):
in power. I'm not saying thatthere aren't people that are ruling. They
obviously killed Kennedy. There is powerin this country, but to give them
so much power to the point whereI think a part of it's our fault,
at least half of it's our faultbecause we didn't care enough to stop
it got We gave into our fearsmore than we did anything while they killed
the president. Man, there's nothingwe can do. We could have done

(01:35:25):
something, but we don't have peoplethat are willing to stand like when we
started this country, we had peoplewilling to stand in a line and look
at people shooting bullets at them likethey didn't even take cover. We were
the first ones that started doing that. That's the kind of people that we
had that were willing to die forwhat they believed in. It ain't now

(01:35:47):
we've been comfortized. I don't evenknow the word for it. You know,
we just give in to fear toomuch. We're scaredy cats need to
go hang out the mid Unfortunately,I agree with with a lot of that.
You know, I've again, youknow, I'm from California. I'm

(01:36:08):
looking at the politics, you know, just destroying this beautiful, once,
beautiful, amazing state. It's beautiful, and I think it's being done on
purpose. Dude. It wasn't untilI went to California until I realized why
everybody wanted to live there. WhenI went to Mount Shastase Melon Shasta is

(01:36:30):
just part of it. It's beautiful, yeah, But I was thinking,
like, why does everybody hate becauseI heard all the laws right the liberal
whatever you know, political bs,and I'd be like, well, I
wouldn't really want to live there either, But when I visited the place,
so I went to Shasta, Iwent to San Francisco. I didn't get
to go to southern Cali. ButI've seen a lot of northern California,
or I guess that's like middle northernCalifornia, and it's gorgeous. Who wouldn't

(01:36:51):
want to live there? It reallyis a pretty place. Man canby the
world can be a pretty place.South Carolina, though, I don't know
what do you think about that?I hate the humidity, but it's very
very green. It's it's it's prettynice when you go out to Myrtle Beach,
It's it's pretty nice out there.How do you like that? What

(01:37:13):
do you think about it? Rightnow? So I can't really, you
know, say that I'm from thereright now, but many days I might
go back. Did you like theOzarks, Dave? When you were here?
I didn't get really well, wereally didn't get to see the Ozarks
though, I mean we just kindof went through the mountains right. Took
my car, the Honda. Thatscared me, and I wasn't sure if

(01:37:39):
we're going to make it back.You know. I took that same car
after that across the country three orfour times. That's amazing. I'm telling
you, dude. I was livinga life of faith, bro. Like,
I believed in God and magic andall this stuff so much that I
figured whatever's going to happen was meantto happen for me anyways. And it

(01:38:00):
changed my life. Dude. Ofcourse I did change the tires, you
know. Oh that's good. Ihope you changed the oil too. I
changed the oil. Yeah, Ichanged a lot of stuff on the car.
But it's still made it across thecountry quite a few times. Man.
You know, yeah, I stillhave my two thousand and two Durango.
I went from California to South Carolinaand back hauling at U haul with

(01:38:24):
a bunch of stuff I had.I had a copy. Even telling me,
said, man, you're riding withGod, dude, like I would.
I don't know how you're making it. I said, yeah, you're
right, I am rudding with God. You know. So what's your plans
for beyond the strange man? Youread? Are you? Are you just
kind of doing the thing, oryou got any like new plans or what

(01:38:45):
oh, man, I you know, I I'm not gonna lie. I'm
I'm pretty burned out on interviewing people. But I mean I still want to
do something, and I think partof it is becoming like a researcher myself
and just put myself out there withwhat I find sure I should have done

(01:39:10):
from the first, you know,in the first place. Yeah, if
that's where your heart is, yeah, absolutely it is right now. I
mean, you know, and I'mtrying to follow something of somewhat direction from
the universe by you know, listeningto Terro and all that kind of stuff,
you know, stuff that I learnedfrom you. Actually, no,

(01:39:30):
I don't say that. Man.I don't need to be that kind of
I don't want I never want to. I don't ever want to be any
kind of influencer on anybody. Ialways said, well you are, but
but but it's but it's a positivething because, you know, it shows
me that there is something. Imean, we can choose to call it
God, we can choose to callthe universe whatever you want to call it.

(01:39:51):
You know, there is a direction, h level. We're not just
we're not just randomly put on thisearth for you know, just to be
here. You know, there's there'scertain reasons why we're here. I believe
it. I remember when we wentto those arcs. Then you you were
like the first time you saw medo it like a ritual or something like,

(01:40:12):
what are you doing? Oh,when you were praying? Yeah,
And I was like, I'm doinga ritual and you're like, but you're
praying. I said, yeah,it's kind of the same thing, like
it was a prayer ritual, youknow, it wasn't like the Four Directions
or something. And you're like,I want to didn't you say you wanted
to watch? Then you sit backand drink beer and watch it or something.
I think when I was drinking whenyou were drinking, I've got eighteen

(01:40:32):
months oberts Bro. Thank you.Yeah, it was kind of kind of
getting in real life, so Ihad I stopped. Well, so I
guess we can't have a beer together. Then I'd rather I'd rather make sure
that you stay sober, though,if that's what you want to do.
Man, I'll definitely drink a cooazyroll with you right on. I can't

(01:40:53):
I can't drink. I just getsleepy when I drink most of the time,
you know. I don't. Ithink it was all the bartending that
I did that got me from likeI just can't I can't do I can't
do it a lot, you knowwhat I mean, can't handle the hangovers.
But brother, I got your back, man, whatever you want to
do, you know, I gotyour back. The Friends FM's got your

(01:41:14):
back, and all these people heregot your back, and they love you.
I mean, I appreciate everyone listening, and I appreciate you having me
on the show. Yeah, yeah, I mean we're good friends and there's
stuff that we don't agree on,but we're not We've always been good buddies.
We don't tear each other's hair outor start a bunch of drama or
any of that stuff. Man,it's what good friends are for. You
know. It doesn't get that bad. It doesn't get it never gets that

(01:41:40):
bad. No. But but anythingthat you want to mention, we got
your back. I want. Thisis what I want. If I had
my way and I was narcissistic aboutit, I'd be like Dave, just
tell stories, Just tell cryptid stories, do like unsolved mysteries and get behind
the microphone and tell a bunch ofcool stories. You know. Actually,

(01:42:02):
yeah, So I am building upmy Rumble channel that is Beyond Strange on
Rumble, and so that's going tobe part of it. You know,
I'm going to do a lot ofnarrating, if that's what you want to
call it. So it'll it'll beuh stories and topics and things like that,

(01:42:24):
and I'll also add to that myresearch on on this topic and other
stuff. But yeah, it's gonnabe something like that. So you know,
YouTube is proven to be the disinfo police, you know. So
you know, I got a strikeon my channel and I got you know,
stuff that is forbidden if you will. So that's all going to the

(01:42:47):
Beyond the Strange Rumble channel for now. I mean Rumble could be like that
too. I mean everyone's terms andconditions are changing nowadays. But yeah,
Rumble and X actually formerly known Twitter. There is at Strange days twenty fifteen
on Twitter for the Beyond the Strangechannel, and my personal Twitter is at

(01:43:13):
Dave seven zero crews for those whowant to follow me, and I'll follow
you back. That's how old heis, hight seventy. I am almost
seventy now. I'm let's technically it'sit's all good. But yeah, I
mean rumbles what I'm working on rightnow, and you know, the website's

(01:43:35):
going to be doing some changing aswell. But and if you want to
support me, you can go tobuy me a Coffee dot com Coffee with
the K, right, is thatwhat that is? No, it's buy
me a coffee dot Com? Isit? Okay? Forge slash? I
believe it's forge slash. My god, I forgot my own thing. Anyways,

(01:43:59):
it's all on the website, sothere's something to that. But uh,
coffee dot com with the with thece okay, should be seen.
Yeah, buy coffee dot com.Greatly appreciate it. It'd probably Beyond the
Stranger Dave Cruz or something like that, right, I would think, or
Strange Days or something something like that. I really don't know. I mean

(01:44:23):
really, let me see. Howabout we do this. Let me just
check it out real quick on thewebsite. Tell yeah, it is beyond
the Strange Okay. Yeah, ifyou go to be on the Strange dot
Com, there's links at the topfor the homepage and if you go there,

(01:44:43):
it will Rea route Ye support mybrother, y'all give him some support.
If you hit a lotto ticket orif you're a philanthropist. If you're
a philanthropist, support both of us, like if you've got a bunch of
money, like we need your help, both of us. But if you
but if you're going to support,support Dave too. I am for those

(01:45:04):
that are asking trying to get Daveback on the Fringe And yes I have
begged and I will beg some more, you know, because I mean,
he was there when we started it. It's nothing. There's nothing better to
me like than to have a familyof deep connections. That's the only reason,
one of the actually the biggest reasonswhy I started the Fringe FM.
Because I just didn't want to dothis shit alone. That's a fact.

(01:45:28):
I'm not telling you guys any liesabout that. So thanks Dave, thanks
for what you do. I haveno problem. I have no problem coming
back to the friends or working withwith with Joe again. Mark. Like
I said, we we go wayback, so it's all good. Just
start up and only fans. Isell fart jars to guys in Europe.

(01:45:49):
Nah, I don't think we gotto do all that. If you sell
those those like you know, goodfor you, brother, But there's better
ways to get support. Man,make something creative, everybody farts. That's
not very creative. Yeah, that'shorrible. Oh my gosh. I love

(01:46:10):
you, Dave. Thanks for comingon the show. Bro hey Man.
Thanks again. I really appreciate it. And you know, once again,
man, your audience is wonderful.I appreciate you, guys. Thank you
for hanging out and listening to meramble about the Neffleman giants. But it
is something that's I think it's veryimportant and you'll be hearing me talk a
lot more about it in the future. Yeah, and go to his website
too, at Beyond Thestrange dot com. Make sure you guys check all that

(01:46:35):
out. Follow Dave. We'll havehim back on again, and we'll see
guys tomorrow night. We're gonna haveMike Martin on here. We're gonna talk
about he's got a book out aboutgoing through portals and lucid dreams and astral
gateways, so we'll be doing thattomorrow night, and then we'll have Ronnie
Pontiac on. Thanks again, Dave. I love you, brother, all

(01:46:55):
right. I love you to you, brother. Thank you, guys.
Have a great night. Sweet dreams, y'all. Creative power working through the
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