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March 27, 2025 • 80 mins
Like It Or Not with Rebecca Azor - Free to tell the truth and not care who doesn't like it! Bring your coffee or drinks and join hosts Rebecca Azor, DJ XXXclusive and Benjamin Dixon for culture, news, music and dad jokes! Saturday mornings!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Work that we're doing here is not going to stop
when it comes to these type of discussions. It's going
to be for us and by us here on this
platform when the media is telling us.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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help us grow.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Like it or not. It starts now.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Good afternoon, everybody.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Good morning, good morning, and welcome to like it and
I will. We're free to tell the.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
Truth and not care who doesn't like it.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
You're gonna have to get a square because you're not
going to be the voice of the little Okay, because
I was like, I have.

Speaker 6 (00:39):
My avatar, but David, pull up my avatar. See what
that looks like because I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, a square and like he can square, you know,
because them is not given.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
But Rebecca, it's not morning nowhere either.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh see, I work, and I work six jobs and
i'm tr and it feels like it is the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
However, good afternoon, everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yes, I'm currently working and yeah, doing a lot right now. Yeah,
I'm to jump out a little earlier because I have
a conference call.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
This is too much going on.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Because it's fine. That's just like it's right, But I
definitely understand. But yes, been the voice of God. Listen,
velvet voice in the background voices, is.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
It a little smoother today than you?

Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's very smooth because we can't see it, so you
could be grove.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
We don't even know it.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
We don't automatically see. Is this like, hey, y'all welcome
to like it or not. This is Benjamin P. Dicks.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
This is why I wanted to do radio. So people
don't see me. I can just interact with the microphone again.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
There all right?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Or is that like them? One thing that it's looked like,
that's them them Ben's kids.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Kids.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Nobody came, not even your daughter. She's so pretty. She
looks like your sister.

Speaker 6 (02:13):
Uh yeah, no, they look look dix and jeans are strong.
I could never deny that man, the judge, the judge
throw me under the jail, trying to deny my.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Kids because your not doctor humar.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
No, you know black queens forever, but not queens forever.
But not my see, not my daughter. Even though she
looked just like me, she talked just like a preach,
just like just like but she ain't mine Black queens, uh.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Mine.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
But lord, it's been a very every time we get
on here. Sorry about that guy. Saturday, I was very
very lots of work. Then I did see the work
that you did do with doctor Mac.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I mean, I thought that was amazing.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Also, I wonder if there's a way to show it, David,
go ahead, I'm sorry, yeah, there probably is, but I'm
going to do my recordings. And Bubba he told me
to tell you to do a recording. But I'll get
with you on that as well. But it's it's such
a beautiful thing what we see with doctor Mac. If
you guys haven't known, because especially in this time with

(03:28):
black history, as you see on my shirt, with my shirts,
say hold on because it's really given. It's all tied together.
For as long as I am black, I'm his story
ados FB a Caribbean Nigerian. Just for as long as
I am black, I'm history.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
And that's just what it is.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I know they're trying to erase us, they're trying to
remove us.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
The the White Houses, you.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Know, has already had their order and where there was
no more Black history.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
And we said, oh bat, now we're gonna really have
to do it.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Three sixty five for the next four years, even though
we're three sixty five for the next four years, we're not.
We're gonna have to be in your face with it.
We're gonna have to be real nasty and rude and
just be and not pay attention to nothing white and
everything black. Now, we really don't care at this point. Damn,
We're gonna mind our black business at work. We're not
gonna do any DEI activities because what we're DEI they

(04:24):
don't want us. So we're just gonna come to work
clocking do what you guys asked us to do. And
when we do what you asked y'all asked us to do,
that means somebody's dropping the ball because we're usually doing
more than what we're asked just because we want to
keep our jobs. But now y'all gonna see how mediocre
the other people are.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Y'all gonna see that they was.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Never doing work at all, and we were holding it
down by doing the extra of the work.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
See, that's what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
And we are the ones that are going to be
speaking to our own communities, whether it's the people in
the house, whether the it's the people in our neighborhoods,
whether there's people who look like us that are receptive
to the conversations, whether it's in the church, ben with
what you're doing, whether it's what your Haitian community, which
what I'm doing. We're gonna talk to our people, but
we're not talking to you guys anymore. But if you
want to hear the conversations that are open in this area, yes,
to learn a little something as our allies. Absolutely, and

(05:09):
talk to your families. But it's not our job anymore.
It's not our job if we try to tell y'all
for years and years and years what they was gonna do,
and y'all did not, And then your online sack.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Where is Kamala? Why is she not saying because y'all say,
y'all ain't want her.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
So now she's talking to the people that want to
hear her amongst her circle.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
She can breed, she can have a good time.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Hello, Like, I don't understand why she can't put her
hand upon the tail and you're talking about some Wow,
she put her hair in a ponytail, and people and
Donald Trump is out here and she.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Put her hair in the ponytail.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
No, you put your hair in your ponytail when you
decide to stay home and not vote, So.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Please leave me alone. Leave me alone.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Alone.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Right when they decided not to vote, re record, baby
hair wasn't a ponytail at home, and then they came
out talking about.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Some blue bracelet leave me alone.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Okay, I say, doctor, you know we he has black
history calendars and what all through the year you can
find a Black history fact. And he now has gone digital.
Now I don't know if the reason why I haven't
gone full rollout because I don't know if it's full

(06:20):
rollout yet, but it's coming. It's an app uh and
with every day of the month, of course, you can
get your black history. I think now is a better
time than ever once we have an actual full rollout,
you know, some media that we can really give y'all good,
we'll do that.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
But it's coming.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
And I got to hear the teaser of Benjamin Dixon
and your seeds.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Did you hear did you hear the kid? Did you
hear the babies?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I said, has been teaching. Ain't no wady, They got it.
They're gonna be all right. I see it is that
the one you're supposed to give me because you never
gave you yes, but love y'all mean it Ben your kids?
I said, Oh, Ben, he's teaching the babies. I said,
the wife is teaching the babies.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, doing.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
The wife it is.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I know she talks about it online a lot, so
I know it's her.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
So home Jeremiah's yet because you heard you heard the
baby boy the small It's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I wish.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I actually have it on my phone, but I'm not
gonna do it because I I can't be responsible for
a rollout that isn't the rollout.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Ok.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, on next episode, I will definitely do that, but
I'm gonna do mine, and I'm gonna definitely reach out
to you so you can speak with him as well,
and we can't get that done. But what I love
about it is for every day that we're attached to
or we're associated with, whether it's our birthday or another day,
you'll hear our voice and you'll hear a black history
fact from that day. And so that was really nice

(07:55):
to see. But I love that. And once it does
roll out, I will chair it with you guys here,
but in the mean time, But in the meantime, I
really want you guys to head over to.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
What's the calendar with carriage black hair?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
And that's what the app is gonna be called. But
Black Heritage Day. Definitely go and purchase your calendar. He
has one, that's all. If you want three hundred and
sixty five days of black facts and history of just women,
he has that available. If you want it just anything,
just black, he has that available and he has different
versions as well.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I think.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
I'm going to take a little I'm going to take
a little privilege since I'm working on it with him.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
I'm just gonna play tell me hYP y'all can hear this?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
This is Jeremiah in January nineteenth is my birthday.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
John H. Johnson was born on this day in nineteen eighteen.

Speaker 7 (08:48):
As Okay, that's that's just a teacher.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
So it's the soul.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
It's coming from the sold out calendar. But he has
the black Listen, the Black Characters Heritage Day Women's is
available and please go go go and support if anything,
I want you to support because we're doing we're actually
now we're not scared to say we're just black. You know,
three sixty five. This is not a McDonald's campaign. This
is not a Walmart campaign.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
We really are that. And now we're just gonna have
to tell you every day you're going to get me.
Oh brother, here we go. The race thing.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, because the race thing is in the
White House, and they want they want Hitler, and all
we just want is just to be black.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
I just want to raise my kids back. And that's
why I was telling the I'm trying to raise these
little big head babies who look just like me, except.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Jeremiah.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Jeremiah's creeping up on Benjamin.

Speaker 7 (09:47):
I had to wrestle Benjamin the other day say, I
don't care how tall you are, boy, he's still going
to black.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Daddy's always gonna assert himself when he sees the baby
walking by. Ain't doing nothing, but the dad offended, don't.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I can still check you. And it's like, wait, it's.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Because you tall, because I wanted to make sure you
know you just because you can see over my head
still to check you.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
For looking up that I don't.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
Be looking at my eyes level set to his chest.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I can't even look.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
I'm looking at his chest.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I'm still your daddy. And it's like I never said that.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
It's cut.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Daddy is offended. Daddy growth. You gonna always be my baby.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
That's what you want your kids.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
You want your kids to grow you in every way.
You want to get taller than you, you want them
to do better than you. But you still also need
them to always know I will. I brought you in
this world. I can get you out.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
That's real. That's real. That's just black. That's a black.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Okay, So let's get this show on the road. There's
a lot to talk about, but before anything, I really
want to discuss the immigration things before we even get
on that. If you guys are watching from my tam
I'll make sure you like, you share and subscribe. If
you have not done so yet, do it right now
and get in the comment section because we're about to

(11:21):
have a conversation for a little bit before I have
to get back to work. But we're about to have
a conversation and I want to start off immediately with.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Haiti.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Immigrants have been attacked for since Donald Trump's first presidency,
but not only that, they've been attacked for the history
of America. There's if you think about immigration policies, they
there's never any real due process. There's never really any

(11:51):
when it comes to black and brown I had to
be clear, Sorry, black and brown immigrants when it comes
to the policies that are associated with them, You'll be like,
but but what wasn't But then't you say for them immigrants?
And it's like, yeah, but not for y'all. You always
see that when it comes to immigrant policy associated with
black and brown immigrants. And I wanted to start off
with discussing I know, we talked about how he did
the ASMR recently back in February for Valentine's Day with

(12:14):
your migrants and chains, and they were talking about the
sounds or soothing to them, because that's what ASMR is
usually to hear those sounds of people chewing or whatever
they're doing, and it's calming for you. So for anybody,
especially for us, to be our ancestors who were, you know,
formally enslaved, and chains to us doesn't mean the chain

(12:37):
breaking that they were singing about in the church. We're
talking about. Those are changes they're putting on feets and
hands and throwing them on boats for long, long long
ventures to get somewhere, and to still put them in chains.
But living and working for white people, building countries like
the US with the blood sweat and all the things

(12:58):
us having to rebel to become the first black nation
and so many you know in Haiti, and still paying
for it till this day. In every place that they
dropped us off at, Black people are still paying for
it till this day. Whether it's our country or where
we done rebelled, they have done everything to take our
power away.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
And brown people are the same.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
We saw the instant attacks as soon as Donald Trump
came into office against two brown people. There was the Hispanics,
specifically Mexicans, Cubans, other people.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Were the ones that thought they weren't getting gonna get got.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
But sorry to say, kew Binals, you are pretty much close,
you know. And that's our allies, that's Haiti's allies, the
ones that know what's up. But the ones that's down
there in Miami around Palm Beach area, they got a
little confused, like the ones that are white adjacent and
you voting for Donald Trump and he's not for you.
And so they quickly found out. Okay, and we'll talk

(13:55):
about that as well. And then so it was the
Mexicans when not only got the Muslim band right, how
you attacked any Muslim majority nation and that literally any
Muslim majority country. That was because of what and it's
always been a thing, right. First it was quiet, then
it was out loud, and they there always been discriminate

(14:18):
discrimination against Muslims or people who they believe.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Were Muslims, just because of what they looked like.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
So not only was it religion, it was what you
looked like, if you had you know, a head rap
or you know, this certain kind of outfit, the prayers,
you would do, your accent, but of course your skin color.
And so when nine to eleven came around, all the
things that they were saying and all the negative stigma
that they put towards brown people who were Muslim, they

(14:46):
always they grouped them all together. It now became policy,
immigration policy, and disrespect them was okay because of nine
to eleven.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
This must be true.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Even though there was no substantiated information, the claims that
they made that these people were terrorists and they were
a threat to America were true. There was no any
statistics that showed that. But Donald Trump said it was true,
and America's already racist, so they went with it, and.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
That's how we got the Muslim band.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Now we have Muslim Band two point out just what
Earlier this week we've seen that come out where Donald
Trump stated that he will now have a Muslim band, well,
not Muslim band, a band that's expanded, right, the Muslim
band that's expanded, So it's a two point zero.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
And guess who he's adding on there, right, e Venezuelans.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
He's adding Cubans, he's adding Haitians, of course the child.
And in this there's a lot to unpack with this
because a lot of people want to come at me.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I want to be very very trying to come at
you for very people.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
You know, people who are not only people who are
ignorant naturally and want to stay there because it gives
them a reason to say the misinformation and stick to it.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
But people aren't educated properly.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
So if you're gonna follow me, because I'm gonna really
talk about Haiti a lot, not only am I bias
to it because I'm Haitian, which means that I am
gonna make that my priority when it comes to giving
you all the actual news about it, y'all gonna have
to come with me on this journey. Right as far
as if you want to know why these things make sense,
Donald Trump doesn't just move just to move the politics
in America when it comes to immigration, isn't just the

(16:24):
by happenstance they're dropping about speeton Kreole.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
They're dropping these things one by one.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
But if you go to a history, you'll see where
these things have happened before or something similar. So now
they're doing it again, and it's all historic, right, And
to me, it's not even that history repeats itself. History
has always it never changed when it came to black
and brown migrants, especially with black people here in America.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
So now with those and cycles, Rebecca, this this comes
around and loops every so many centes and sometimes decades,
they go through this phase where they.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
Target immigrants and they target the very people who are victims.
Haiti is a victim of the West. Haiti is a
victim of France. Haiti is a victim of the United
States of America, most recently the Clinton Foundation, not only
the Clinton Foundation, but every administration interfering. I don't have
to tell you this, I'm just teeing it up for
you to knock it down. Right, the juvenil Moist, what

(17:32):
happened with him, We saw the intervention, the assassination, right,
So Haiti is a victim of the West and the
United States of America. And now, just like a regular cycle,
just like Hitler did, excuse me, just like Hitler did
with Jews, just like every nation does. They find an
immigrant group and they cyclically target them. And then sometimes

(17:53):
it goes as far as what we see in Gaza.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yes it does.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
And see you're right man, and we can talk about
all of the things. It shows that the attacks with
the Ukrainians, which is also like I said, they deserve
they to get out of what was happening, especially at
the hands of Russians in their country. They needed a
safe haven and so yes, they deserve that and they
deserve to come here. But we cannot turn a blind

(18:17):
eye to the same time frame the Haitians had the
assassination of our president as you mentioned, Joven Moyes in
that time and found themselves under a bridge after months
of travel through Brazil, through Mexico, through all of these places,
through Chile to find themselves under a Texas bridge when
law had passed and they thought, okay, this law can

(18:39):
apply to me when I get here. The humanitarian parole program,
you find somebody to a family member, friend to bring
you in and you can stay. Imagine having a country
that is literally in turmoil. And yes, there are a
lot of conversations that we can have about Haiti and
the people there and why you know, we're stuck on

(19:02):
the dependency of this and that, But we can't talk
about that if we don't know the history of the
US and they're intervening into our business and things and
taking control all of that that leads us to literally
nothing and happen to fend for ourselves and then take
control saying we'll give you aid and not really give

(19:22):
us aid.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
Mm, don't give you a single what eight houses? What
they raised about a billion dollars for the earthquake in
twenty ten.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
And the Clintons, that's what I can't mess with. That's
one thing I just I just can't, right. And not
only was Hillary Clinton over that one, but the Clintons
from before disseminated our rice culture disseminated it. So here
we are and I could go into that, but that's again,
those are points in history you must know before you

(19:54):
want to join your your beaty head into the conversation.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
All that and wrong, SoC.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
But one last thing for you for you move on
that thought it's it was never about the legality of immigration.
Because those Haitians that are getting ready to be ejected,
if they haven't been deported yet, they were here legally
underneath the Temporary Protective status, right, those Venezuelans, those those cubs,

(20:22):
right that they were all here underneath the TPS program.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Here legally.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
These are the people who are in Springfield helping to
revitalize the city of Springfield City d got it back
to life. And Donald Trump is now getting ready to
take to take the lifeline out of Springfield and deport it.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Mm yep.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
And he not only Springfield, so many different areas where
the Haitians. I'm going home soon, actually tomorrow, I'm going home.
My mom, you know, a health issue, so I'm gonna
go take care of that. But also back home, there
are so many friends and family who are asking questions,
who don't know what to do. We're trying to figure

(21:01):
out the next move where they're gonna go. We have
a whole street back home because I'm from where it's
you don't even consider it, you know, Florida, that's part
of the Islands, right, so South Florida. So when you
go home, there's a whole street where the Haitians are
going to school to learn English. They're living in these
homes across the way, and they're working in what was

(21:21):
once a dead shopping center. They're taking the jobs that
are paying them close to nothing in that in every
place in that shopping center on Military Okay, Military Trail
and Oklahoby, y'all know that shopping center with the.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Ralls, the.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
When Dixie because it ain't want Dissie no more presidential market. Yeah,
y'all know exactly what I'm talking about. The Haitians have
taken over that spot, but have revived it, have revived
that whole community that was once dead. That area was
literally when I used to go home, had nothing. Okay,
So when I see them patients, they literally are. And

(21:59):
this is the thing they want to have, this kind
of idea, this false idea, this narrative, this false rhetoric,
strong and wrong that when they come here they're criminals.
You go again, go straight to Okatroby and Military View
and Palm.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Beach where that ross is.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
You will see a school and you will see them
coming from school at different hours of the day and
going straight across the street to go into work. Clocking
into work and working over time in that plaza. They've
never seen that plaza be booming the way it is
for the last few years since they brought this program
here and the Tatians came here. They're learning the language,
they're learning a trade, and they're going to work, and

(22:38):
they're going to these homes that have no room inside
of them but trying. So nobody's coming here to just murder,
and unfortunately there have been. But when you compare that,
there's no statistics that show that these people are a threat.
Now talking about them being a threat, because again, that
is the narrative that needs to be moved pushed out.

(22:58):
Donald Trump todd that he will be and please get
some if you can, like, go walk with me here, David.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I know I'm given a lot.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Donald Trump told that he has thirty thousand beds available
in Guantanamo Bay. The first they reported, right this is
coming from his administration, that it would be for the
ones that were very violent criminals. After that it changed

(23:29):
to nonviolent criminals. It is going to be illegal immigrant
That was first. That was like a week before. Immediately
after that, what happens, this law comes out that says
that was supposed to be until twenty twenty six. Let's
be clear, we're still in twenty twenty five. Right, A
law comes out overnight at six pm, at six PM

(23:52):
that states he will be removing Yes, the program was
temporary Yakaza, but it was always supposed to be temporary's
always supposed to be okay, but the countries are still
in turmoil, and even if it was supposed to be temporary,
we haven't gotten the twenty twenty six what he did
was at six pm a few days ago. The next
day it came out where he made it till that

(24:16):
by the end of April, the dates were changing. First
it was like April twenty six, twenty eighth, and now
was April thirtieth. By the end of April, all of
five hundred thousand immigrants who came on that humanitarian parole
program are going to be illegal.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Walk with me now.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Guantanamo Bay will now have thirty thousand beds that are
filled with who black and bown migrants, not only black
and Bewarn migrants, over two over I think it's over
two hundred and ten thousand I believe are Haitian immigrants.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Of those, five hundred of those five hundred.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Stay with me if you know the history of the
US and Guantanamo Bay, if you know the US and
their history of spreading the rumor about Haitians having AIDS
before they even really wanted to do the actual research
about AIDS. They said that AIDS come from Haitians. Haitians
had to get on that, Brooklyn Bridge had to get
out there in Miami back in the late eighties, still

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far for their life in the early nineties.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
But about that claim, you know why they had.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Guantanamo Bay filled up with who Haitian immigrants? The US
was taking immigrants from here because of that idea, putting
them over there in Guantanamo Bay in the harshest conditions.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Look it up. Look it up, in the harshest conditions.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Not only that they were taking the ones who did
have AIDS and putting them in a worse condition, section
them off over there in Guantanamo Bay. There was no
reason for this treatment of them, but to make them
feel and treat them like other, but not only like other,
just like the bottom tier, and made them pay a price,

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a punishment for just being Haitians looking for a better life,
looking for opportunity. Those Haitians were treated so bad and
the quality of life there if there even I can
say that the environment was like an immigration camp, which
was what I called it.

Speaker 6 (26:19):
And it sounds like an internment camp from World War two.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
Camp.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes, that's what it was giving.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
And so America got away with that for a minute,
and everybody in America thought that was okay because they
blamed age on them. But then again, there was no
statistical proof. It was all a lie. It was not factual,
and Haitians had to come out and fight for their
right because it was affecting them getting jobs here. As

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soon as somebody found out you were Haitian, what was it?

Speaker 2 (26:51):
It was? You got aids immediately.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
And that was something when I was coming up in
school that was told to me often because of that,
because of what America did. So when y'all want to
talk about this history and oh, he got thirty thousand beds,
but it ain't gonna be for Haitian historically, do you
know that Tanamo.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Bay was reserved for Haitians for being Haitian.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
So immediately when he does this overnight turn and he
just told it that he has thirty thousand beds, not
only that he's he's already started processing immigrants Venezuelans out
to al Sabagor in that encampment.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yeah, that is those videos that terrible.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
And I can't believe there's videos on it.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
I can't believe there's actual video out that's showing the environment.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Over there, which is it's inhumane.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
It's inhumane on purpose. And you have President Bukele or whatever.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
However, Brena's old fascist looking the fancy is looking fascist
in the on the planet. I mean, he looks really dainty,
like his hair is all slicked back, all his fingernail
all nicely done, real.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
Mm hm, no, go ahead, no, you know.

Speaker 8 (27:56):
Then he mocks he mocks the he mocks the Supreme
not the Supreme Court, but the federal judge here who
try to block those three hundred immigrants from being deported there.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
And now it's turned out, Rebecca, what you're talking about.
There's innocent people who are in that bunch. There's innocent
people who have been deported to a prison in l Salvador,
and Maga and and and and Bukle is out here
laughing and making fun of it.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yep, what like what you look at that, David.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Look at that the West coast. I'm like, wait a minute, and.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
And you're right, man, those Hitler juniors, those people who
are dictators like b Kle over there and Salvador and
then you got whoever's over there and for going tonam obay.
But those partnerships, uh, Donald Trump literally trying to create
that here as well. Those partnerships and then and then
the forcing to the pay to stay. We're literally running

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from poverty. And let me be clear again when I
say this, that does not mean that I'm saying that
Haiti is a country that's not beautiful or hay doesn't
have resources.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
We had so many resources that they had to.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Steal from us and deplete us from our resources, put
in corruption into the country so that we would not
continue to succeed because it took away from America shining.
Right at one point in the eighties or before that sixties,
I believe Haiti was so is one of the safest
places America considered it one of the.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Safest places to visit for vacation.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
You would never know that there are commercials about it
being one of the safest places to visit for vacation,
all the things. But again they find black people thriving
in the country. They find black people doing well in
the country, and they will try to strip you and
take everything from you. Haiti has always been an example
that they want to they may want to make an
example out of it. America historically has always been anti Haitian.

(29:59):
As soon as they found out about the rebellion that
they did, the successful rebellion that they did.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Because you scared them, they exactly they did not.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
America made sure that there was no slave that heard
about it or wanted like there was no connection because
they were afraid that that would make their slaves rebel,
give them an idea to rebel. So they made sure
that everything became anti Haitian, everything became anti black success.

(30:28):
That's why I say, even Okay, there's this conversation that's
going around with people saying, hey, there's a video of
the girl says, I want segregation back. I want segregation back,
and segregation would be great for us because if we
had segregation, black people can succeed on their own. And

(30:48):
I said, that sounds good until you understand that there
were once thriving communities and again people want to just
everything that sounds good. We can say something sounds good, right,
But we can't say it never happened, because when these
black thriving communities happened, what happened.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Bombed us bomb us.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
We was out the way. They said they didn't want
us in their stops.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
So what do we do?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
We started from scratch, black families, black immigrants from you know,
or black migrants from other states, and stuff was moving
to vacant places and creating very very great communities.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
Tulsa, Black Wall Street, Georgia, Rosewood, Florida.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Not only Rosewood out there where I covered it in Florida,
Eaton Wood. And see, it's like all these different places
that they quietly try to cover up where they did
a lot of the serviance in those places because they
were thriving. They're all considered historical communities now or they're

(31:53):
just vacant. Allenwood in California, they didn't want to that place.
It was flourishing so much.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
They didn't want to.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
They told them that they would give them water the community.
So they'll give them all of this, you know, when
things started to you know, things change.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Now they got water and now that's.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Not that they started cutting off the resources for them,
so they forced them to move out of there and
back into their communities and take their money. That place
is just sitting there, vacant, old vehicles, old churches, just vacant, vacant.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
They'd rather have an empty, vacant city than to have
a thriving minority community, especially black community, in that city.
They would rather destroy it and have it just completely
unlivable than to let black folks live there peacefully and unbothered.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Mm hm. They wouldn't. They wouldn't want that.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
So I say that to say, when we're having these conversations,
yes we would want that, and yes we're gonna have
to continue to fight, because there was somebody way back,
one of our ancestors, way back in the day, that
was fighting so much, didn't know what today would look like,
didn't know what today would look like for us, but
here to give us the opportunity to see, at least
sit on this platform, even though here we're even muzzled

(33:00):
in some way, but sit on this platform and to
talk about these type of things, because you know, they
did that for us.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
They didn't know that this day would come.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
However, we gotta be real, and I think that's the
problem with us saying that we want segregation, knowing that
that's not really you. We're literally what how much how
many black people the black community in America's like thirteen percent?

Speaker 5 (33:22):
Yeah, around fourteen Yeah, So you.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Know, it's kind of not gonna be possible, right, we
gotta be in this these communities. However, that doesn't mean
that they have to like, we're not gonna let them
make us inferior anymore. We're fighting for that, of course,
but our communities are things, they're ours, they like, we
gotta stop making it feel like they can just take
it from us. But we are fighting people who are

(33:47):
making laws to steal from us. We are you guys
are seeing segregation all but remember there are people who
did it before, who died.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
There are communities who are they Remember there are.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
People who are living today who are still looking for
reparations for what happened to them and the and what
did America says to them every time they go up
there and fight for it. Well, no, no, no, and
it's no, that's what they're saying to us. And so,

(34:18):
but I don't think segregation is the way because if
we are talking about if I'm gonna be real, I'm
a all black everything girl, but it's a human issue, right,
and we got an h we're all part of an HBCU. Right,
We've all got HBCU up in us on this panel.
And right now, what are they doing at the Education Department?

(34:40):
They have dismantled it so much so that they want
to sue have actively started suing HBCUs for doing the
very thing that they were told to do when they
when they were started HBCUs are they're teaching predominantly black students.
At one time it was all black because why we
we weren't allowed to go to the white schools, and

(35:04):
because the schools are so amazing now want to go
to it from other countries. They want to go to
our schools. And because they're not able to get the
financial aid that black people are getting to go to
those schools, they mad.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Donald Trump said hell no no.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
And then because they're going to accept the black students
before they accept the whites, he said no, but is
that not the system that they told.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Us to create?

Speaker 1 (35:33):
And we've been going by it for years and we
still let the white kids. And I graduated with a
nice little boy named Connor over there. He left that
year because he said.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
That communications program is.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Not not as efficient as the journalism program over here.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
He left that white school and came on over the tracks.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
You know, we showed that our education is even greater
when you guys tell to go do it ourselves, it's
even greater.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
And they get mad about that. Now.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
The dismantled the education system by putting some man's wife.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Vince McMahon w w W one of them.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
His wife, Yeah, secretary of education now is whatever her
first name is McMahon, the wife of Vincent man. Yep, no, no, no, no,
I'm just you know, Becca, And we'll only only we
didn't they didn't give us permission to start the school.

Speaker 7 (36:34):
We started them because you know, they didn't say, go
over there and start your own school.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
We started them because we had no choice.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
And the thing is is, right now, these white Saltines,
these Salteene Americans are striking at the very core of
what blackness is and everywhere blackness can be found, they
are trying their best to per black history, black excellence,

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black anything.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
They're declared they have declared and all out war on us.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
And you know the thing about it, though, is that
black folks ain't even needed white folks permission to be black.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
They can't stop never, exactly never.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
That's all I got to say black.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
They never needed no white permission to be black again,
as long as I am black, melanated.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
Long is I got King Jesus, as as long as
I got King that.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
We are black and they can't stand it. I walk
into the store with the shirt on, they hated about me.
I walk into the store just not even with the
shirt on that says I'm black, and they hated about me.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I just am and they hated about me.

Speaker 9 (37:53):
You know.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
I think that's why Doctor max app is so important
right now. Thank you for Black history, and Rebecca, thank
you for starting it, starting today's episode with And I
know doctor Mack is going to really appreciate today's episode.
And it's so important because if that's exactly, if that's
what they're trying to strike at, that's what they're trying
to take away, then that's that's why it's so much
more important for us to dwell on it and to

(38:15):
live in it, and to be as black and the
black black as we can possibly be, honoring our history,
honoring our present, and then fighting fighting them, fighting these
these white Christian nationalist devils, white supremacists. We got to
fight them and make sure that they don't get any
more ground like they they've hurt us, they put us

(38:37):
in a bind over the next minimum two years. Our
schools are Black university are going to suffer, Our black
students are going to suffer because of what they're doing
to the Department of Education. All of our communities are
going to suffer because of what MAGA is doing.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Right, But all we gotta do is hold the line.
If we can just.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
Hold it together over the next two years until we
get to these mid terms, and we're verse some of
this now.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
If we don't stop them in the mid terms, now we.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Let this go.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
If we don't put a halt to their progress at
the midterms, then we would have given them a free reign,
like to really permanently put us down.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yep, No, And it's not. I know that sounds like
let me come back.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
I know that sounds like it's you know, I have
to be clear, fear mongering and things of that sort.
But it's not because we were saying that four years
ago and everything that we were saying four years ago,
because it was like four years ago, eight years ago,
and everybody said that it was oh well, you know,
and we tried to be cute with it too. Sometimes

(39:44):
we're like, you know what if we just YO call
our and just you know, sit this one out of
next year and the next four years, we'll make sure.
And then when the next four years came, it started
to seem like, okay, are they bowing down too? You
know what's going on? And we realize that it takes
more than them a little I don't want to be offensive,

(40:07):
but it takes more.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
And so and so.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
We are saying things like they will. Here's something I
said in one of my videos. If you believe that
you and your marginalized group and it could be a
part of the lgbt Q I A plus. You may
not even be black, but you may be a woman.
You maybe you see how he's attacked every single one
of them and has made you illegal in some way. Yep, Yep,

(40:38):
trans people illegal, we're you're on the way, You're on
the way.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Women who want to have abortions illegal, you're you're you're
right there, illegal, illegal, a lot of these things. You
believe this is what he's doing to Haitians and other immigrants.
How he immediately is stamping illegal on you, just being
you and your lifestyle and what you believe. Next thing,
you know is gonna be one religion across the board.

(41:06):
Ye were one, and then not in a way that
where everybody's choosing it. Now it's gonna be forced, where
not people finding God on their own.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
It's gonna be forced.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
It's gonna be forced.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
It's literally, what's that show being handmade style handmaid steal
all day, gaze and gaze and next on the way
out to know, it's gonna be illegal as hell to be.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
What they're doing is sprinkling a little bit here and there,
because if you see how I laid it out for you,
first it was you know they're gonna attack the program TPS.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
YadA YadA. But he already laid it down.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
He was criminalizing them from last year from the Springfield, Ohio.
It's to criminalizations right now because if you criminalize them,
when people think about Springfield, Ohio and they think about
gontanam Obey, immediately they'll say they need to go there
because those are criminals. So to criminalize them, it's all
he was doing is it was all strategic. This is

(42:05):
what he's doing so the same thing with any marginalized group.
He's going to be strategic. It's going to be starting
with this one. Oh, you know, this trans person murdered somebody,
or this trans person had something wrong with them, and
then it's going he's going to make that the end
all be all.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
When we remember they already started with the children.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
What did people who were a part of the l
g B, t q I plus community have anything to
do with the children who were murdered.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
Look, look they try.

Speaker 7 (42:37):
They're trying to say, this is how depraved and evil.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
Hmmm, help mercy.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
They're trying to say now that all of the school
mass shootings are happening because of trans women, trans students,
trans kids. No, I really want your like process that
when we know for a without a shadow of a doubt,
the people who commit mass shootings are overwhelmingly white men,
white boys, or they're white, they're from a white culture
of boys. There was a couple of Hispanics that were

(43:07):
brought up in white supremacy. Even the black boy who
just did their mass shooting recently was drenched in Nazism
and white supremacy. So we know the source, the source
of mass shootings and schools. We know that it comes
from white supremacy. But now what are they saying? Oh, no,
it's those trans students. That's how much they're willing to lie.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Mm yep, they are going to accuse us in trans
of grooming their kids, their kids being I guess the
straight kids, and uh, causing them to go down this
path of of trouble and killings and murders. No, we
just want to be free, left alone, left alone, mind

(43:50):
and no damn business and people.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
The white folks in history had just left folks alone.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
Hatetless food instead of instead of gallivanting all around the
globe thinking people won't your quote unquote civilization which came
at the end of of plagues and pestilence and disease
and violence and guns and.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
All this kind of evil.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
If y'all had just stayed in y'all little country and
left folks alone, what would the world be amen?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Going to people country?

Speaker 1 (44:25):
And why don't you speak English? When Puerto Rico what
they did with that lad white lady did that never
didn't update on her.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
I need to find out.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
But what that white lady did, I believe it was
in Puerto Rico, but she ran up in there and
got upset because they did not want her drunk behind
to be up in their spot.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Puerto Rican. She was on vacation.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
She came back, thought this out, lit the place on
fire with gasoline and it met other communities or businesses,
community businesses, right, and you know that a lot of
these Caribbean countries most of their money come from when
people are.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Are coming on vacation. So go ahead of this.

Speaker 6 (45:08):
I'm so sorry, jose Kelly, Ben, why do you think
he had to graph in the Gentiles?

Speaker 7 (45:13):
Look here, boy, you better preach that theology.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
You're dividing the word of truth in the room.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
It's not about a hundred but our splurs and bought
a billy boy you're preaching.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
So that was good.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
That was woman.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
We're gonna be taking our show on the Royal Radio.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Listen, somebody, look but honestly, we are at a time Ben,
where you're where you're talking about it. This is and
every year we talk about these things. Well, people, this
is an attack, this is under attack. What is what
we're gonna do? We're gonna march. I've seen in real
time where you even our leader's voices who are fighting

(45:59):
for us.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
It's not mad. Your voice ain't voice don't matter. It
don't matter.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
So what do we do next? That's where we're at.
What do we do next? And that's what I see
that a lot of people are veering towards because why ooh,
I'm dropping the video on Thursday about this, But even
what they're doing in the military, be mindful, watch, yes, watch,

(46:26):
because they are trying to there's an erasure happening. Earlier
last week. There was erasure of something that we didn't
even know. But because it's black business, we made it
our business to find out what happened. And that was
about Jackie Robinson, who we all know as the first
black Major League Baseball player. Didn't a lot of things
done done at all? But did you know that he

(46:48):
was the first to say he ain't going to the
back of the bus before Rosa Parks did.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Oh, I bet you did. He did it when he
was in the military.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I bet y'all didn't know that he did it while
he was a lieutenant in the military. I bet y'all
didn't know that because why eraser? What they did earlier
last week was removed information about Jackie Robinson being in
the military. Because they did not want us to know,
first of all, because of the I. And that's what

(47:17):
they literally said. Because of the I, they removed it
from the military government page. They removed his history. Somebody
who knew his history probably went to go look for
him and didn't see him, and they raised hell about it.
Black people made an conversation and observation. Oh, they was
like hell no, hell no. They definitely said no. And
so now we found out what really happened, and.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
They already are they already erased.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
His history within the military, and the military got upset
because this man did push back, and they what is
it called court martialed him for that act and so
he of course was acquitted, but they made him leave
because how dare him stand up and challenge us and

(48:02):
still be here. So what they did was this dishonorably,
you know, honorably charge them, not dishonorably, but we know
it was dishonorable for them, but it was an honorable
discharge for him.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
Then they erased the Black Congressional Medal of Honor recipient
from Vietnam. I don't know that brother's name, but I'm
you know, we should know it now. And I think
that's what we do, Rebecca. For every instance of them
trying to erase black history, I think we lean in,
double down, triple down on our blackness, on our black history,
on our black present, on our black future.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
I think we need to double triple down on it.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Because on top of that, there's an attack, which I'm
going to talk about as well on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
I'm just giving you all the goods, but.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Black men in the military are under attack because of
and there's a medical name for it, but I'm gonna
just go ahead and razor bumbs.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Oh yeah, I don't hear me, Yeah, razor bumps. Black men.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Majority of the black men grow their hair curly, beautiful curls.
And what happens when you go to the military. There's
a clean shaven look that they have to have and
because of that, their razor bumps can become keyloids, can
become in fact, they can become those things. But they're
saying that because of that, they're having to discharge them
because they since removed a ruling a protection for black

(49:31):
men who were able to grow their beards out healthy
and be in the military.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
So now they have removed that law.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
And now they're saying, this thing is like the it's
causing them not to be able to serve. So black
men are under attack already and not being y'all think
this is all coincidence or something is coming ahead, and.

Speaker 6 (49:54):
This purpose is they're executing their little raggedy strategy.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
GoGet strategy, raggedy strategy.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
It's okay, let the white folks go fight the water. Hm,
y'all gonna take your glass, go get killed because y'all, y'all,
y'all kicking the black people because of raisor bumps on
our face that we can't do nothing about but put
some cream or something on it.

Speaker 7 (50:16):
Wait, Ja, Jane, Jane, don't go. Don't take the sideways,
would you. It's not like you're taking that personally.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Die.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
You got some rais of bumps?

Speaker 4 (50:24):
Yeah, because I mean it's it's a normal occurrence. I mean,
you know how work so stupid? Do you know how
hard I gotta work to keep them off of me?

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Man?

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Right, It's like even with this beard, if I was
to save my face, I know, my all that's gonna
be bumped up from a little round face. And it's
just like if I was in the military once I
did that, y'all gonna send me right home. And that's fine,
give me that first check.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
I don't care.

Speaker 6 (50:48):
Every black man is almost prone to getting those type
of razor bumps if you don't treat them right.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
I know know something, I know something.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
Is a special special condition that goes beyond the average
razor bump. But just like just shaving and grooming our beers,
just the wrong move can really give you a kiloid.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
And it literally.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
It's a what like, Okay, it's because they never have
black people in mind for any of these things, right,
they put them out there for war, all these things,
but this eurocentric centered laws and policies, they never have
black people in mind.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
So now, so there was a ruling again.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
That protected the people who were growing out their hairs
and things like that, and then let them car out
their beautiful beers. Is how you see a lot of
military mean with beers and stuff. So fine, and then
they took that law away, and now we're seeing them
back with the raisin bumps putting their lives on the line.
These people are putting their lives on the line for
y'all with they raise the bumps.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
What's what's it doing?

Speaker 1 (51:45):
To y'all when y'all got people who are mentally ill
and white and serving every single day, like, let's be
for real. They're also attacking who the LGBTQUIA plus community
within the military as well bringing back the anti.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Lgbt qy a loss.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
These things are happening before us, and I know that
we're waking up every day and it's something new.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Be mindful that something new will soon affect you. I
take this all the time. Y'all think he can't get you?
I bet you right now? Are you working on something
that's gonna.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Get you for your eyelash, for your lip? But what
you staying at something? Because the America that he wants
is linear and it's going to be things that are
quite of course centered. We saw them ooh BN did
you see that E clip of them worshiping at.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
The White House.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
He gave there was no oil in the room's wife.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Oh my, y'all don't remember that episode the mop and
the uh Megan, thee stallion and car.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
To b oh yeah a throwba.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
You gotta be careful with some of them throw bags.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
It's a different level. Then we were.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
All over the place the law was still working.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
On the level.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Yeah, the wh it was, it was it was.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Because it's not like Ben said the mop I thought,
I thought he said, I didn't put I.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
Didn't put the on it.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I'm we said real.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
But and that was a few years ago. The pandemic
has aged us to say these are things. I'm saying
that everything is a strategy. If when he does come
out with it, what you need to understand is that
he said it somewhere already, He already teased it to us,
He already started it, feeding us some kind of rhetoric

(53:55):
in the beginning. So right now it's gonna be Razor Bobs,
right and then and it's gonna be they just not
fit enough to serve for this country. You listen, And
that's all right because you know they be fighting for
this country the country, and never fight for them.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
You know, my ex he was in the military. He
ain't even from here.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
He did that for an easier way to get a
better life instead of working this you know where all
the other African people.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Were working at the time where he was.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
He went straight to the military and took ten over
a decade of his life and gave it to the military,
did not speak English and experienced lots of racism there.
Also became a lieutenant and they hated him for it,
all kinds of things, and he had to be honorably
discharged as well because of racism.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
So just knowing these people.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Are serving and still will not be recognized, putting their
life on the line, watching friends die every day, right,
and still won't be recognized in this country for anything.

Speaker 6 (54:57):
You know what we need to do, and I'm gonna
And doctor mac has already laid the foundation, Rebecca, because
if you take what he did on the calendar for
three hundred and sixty six days of Black History, but
then you go and add on top of it what
we've accomplished in science, and you go and add on
top of it what black women have done. And then

(55:18):
you're going and add on top of it all the achievements,
all the different achievements that black folks have done. You really,
you really would start to understand why they are so
afraid of DEI. You really start to understand why they
are trying to make sure that they raise as much
Black history as they can, because no matter what they
put in front of black people, we always overcame it

(55:40):
and excelled and got to the top of the top
of the top, and they hate that.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
It doesn't matter what they would literally take away from us,
and we will still figure it out. And that's why
I say I get offended by the what don't kill us,
make a stronger, But that literally is in our genetics.
Even we're enslaved, we are people who are going to
find a way out of no way.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Hit right.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
And m.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
And it's like when when I think about when I
think about but too much, but no, honestly, just knowing
our history from anything, whether we're working amongst a whack
behind corporate job, we're making a way out of nothing,
and then we become the people that, even on our

(56:40):
worst days, are the ones that are carrying the team
on our back, or when it comes to platforms like this,
carrying on our backs when people are just doing you know, nothing,
or or stealing a not wanting to understand the actual
work or the stories or how this affects the black community,
anything like that.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
They're repeating what like Twitter.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Post or you know, social media post or whatever is
hot at the moment, or asking chat GPT to give
them wording. But this is literally something that we are
talking about because this is not only our lived experience.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
This is happening right now.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
And if we don't educate you, if that the least,
if that's the least that we can do, you guys
are going.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
To be lost. Talking to the white posts.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
I'm talking to the black ones, and I understand it.
It's a time right now because when I am not
doing this right, I have real life issues like my
mom got to go take care of her and other
people and family and friends who are affected by what's
going on. We're gonna go handle all that stuff. But
when we're not doing this, I try my best to
have my my own life. Then you have a wife,
you have children, right, you got to pour into them.

(57:47):
But this is you know, if we can only do
what we can do, and if it's here, if you're
a hairdresser you want to talk to, if y'all want
to talk with politics, don't make it a debate, make
it more of an understanding. Help the person understand, because
people do not understand. And people are fighting me about
different things and I'm like, hey, you're saying the sound
somebody told me when you and if anybody moving forward,

(58:08):
wants to talk to me about immigrants and especially black
and brown ones.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Don't ever speak to me about due process. Don't speak
to about due process. There is no due process.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
They asked this man the other day when he was
on I think he was on one of the mainstream
media channels and they were asking him, what, so, what's
the due process when it comes to migrants right now
and they're you know, tps being taken them, or you know,
their their legal status being taken away from them, or

(58:39):
these places like going too Bay they're going to and stuff,
what is the what is the due process?

Speaker 5 (58:44):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Boy, gonna say the young woman who died I believe
her name was Lacan.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
It says, did she have due process?

Speaker 5 (58:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:54):
No, there's no due process.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
That means that they will always redefine what it is
when we're talking about black and brown migrants. There will
never be an actual there's nothing that is standard. The
standard way is to be anti black and brown immigrant
first people listen.

Speaker 6 (59:11):
That's because this system of America, the United States of America,
Western civilization, what white folks have done, they need a
new group to destroy. They cannot They do not exist.
White Christianity, Evangelical or the most of the Catholic Church,

(59:32):
Christian nationalism, the United States of America, capitalism, all of
it exists based.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
On who they are devouring.

Speaker 7 (59:42):
And I can say that word right. And so what
they've done now is they're moving on to immigrants. And
it's always it's always an immigrant group, no.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
Matter where you are on this planet, They're always going
to find an immigrant immigrant group to devour, right, They're
always going to find the racial minority, the.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Black folks in America to devour.

Speaker 6 (01:00:02):
They're always going to find indigenous populations to devour, as
the Native Americans. They're always going to be devouring women,
trying to force them into submission. If you look at
white Christian power throughout world history, they are always seeking
whom they like a roaring lion, lion Rebecca roaming the earth,

(01:00:24):
seeking whom they can devour.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Absolutely, absolutely who.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
I think that's that's a good note.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Yes, they they and they they are like roaring lions men.
But one thing about it, they not like us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
That's that's the worst preach I've ever seen people do.
Somebody did the boots on the ground for the lower
Did y'all see that boots on the ground been because
you know though they did not they not like us,
because I was going to say the roaring lion, but
they're not. They're not like us. You know, I was
gonna say like it or not because we're lying. But
I didn't even get there, because I need to tell
you this.

Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
On the ground the scripture, the scripture talking about the devil,
the devil's a lion.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
White supremacy is the same devil.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Did you see the unseasoned version of the boots on
the ground?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Oh boy, Oh, they already got to it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
They already got to it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
And when I tell you it's a season like the
chicken at the barbecue, Ain't nothing worse.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Than good to see barbecue smell that fool you.

Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
There's very few. It's very few barbecue smells that smell bad.
And you know, you can smell exactly right, but then
you get it. You'll be like all excited because it
smelled good, and it looks can deceive you too, because
it be shiny and glistening with good looking barbecue sauce
on and everything you taste. It tastes about the dry,
like a rubber band dry dry. But it smelled good,

(01:01:53):
it looked good.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
Arry got a grill.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Oh lord, oh here I found it. I found it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
I found the boots on the ground. I'm sending it
to y'all right now, the.

Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
Gotta Karen's got it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
I sent it now ral on Instagram for the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Well this is like the fifth time, because I don't
really use my Instagram anymore like that. I treated like Twitter.
But I do post pictures every now and again. Of
course I try to keep up with the kids because
I'll be cute. So I posted this line. Then, so
we're gonna play this one, and then we're gonna play
the one that went viral, Charlie Green out of Chicago.

(01:02:36):
And I want to show you how smooth they were
back in the day. And now I know why millennials wore.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Suit tops.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
And this iss casual to the club in our blood,
to the people who did it the smoothest. But this
right here is from the church. Please play it from
the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
And play boots on the ground because this was the church.
Do they just disrespectful to play.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
It, y'all?

Speaker 10 (01:03:09):
Liner, don't put him in that mess Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Night, That's all I can't stand. Christy.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Yeah, idea in the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Audience, Miss trusted happen like just we can play him

(01:03:58):
playing you Jo shout out to her with free promo.
But so go on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
My page now and then get the video. Second, the
second video on top row. But that video is literally
line dancing. I thought it was beautiful when I first thought.
It did something to my spirit. It made me feel good.
It made me feel good. So I shared it, and
I think everybody else felt what I felt. That I
couldn't really verbalize, but basically I called it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
It's a like a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Black handshake, like like it's like a universal black handshake
for the black community.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
That's what line dancing is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
My first real black black line dancing outside of the
ones that we learned like to the left, like out
of those and the and the electric side is the
FAM you shuffle. When I first got the Fam, like
they had this basically a part of the process of
getting in the Fam. They show you a line dance
for Fam you and you learn it and everywhere you

(01:05:00):
ours was too. It was the Frankie Beverly and Mays,
but then the version of uh. Because we were young,
we did it also to Wane Officer.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
This is all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
To both of those. So it's Frankie Beverly and Mads.
I know they took it and used.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
It for that Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Did that one and then the Frankie Beverly and Mays. Yeah,
that popular song. So but I think that it's one
of the most blackest things. I think all black cultures
around the world have it. But I love to see it.
When I saw this one, it was it was beautiful
to see.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
I loved it. Did you drop it?

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
Davis? Having a hard time finding it?

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Okay, it's right there on my page. Don't worry about it.
Let me go to Instagram. Do you follow me on Instagram? David,
That's all right, I'll find a frae.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
We turned the corner on black. But you know what,
we were this black. We've always been this black. But
it feels like just a whole new revolution of black.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Oh there it is, I put I he found it
line dances are the unspoken black.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Oh yeah, thisyeah, this is my mom and the time
frame when I tell you Mom and Daddy, Mammy's get
up through the suffle.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
I don't know if you know what the suffer is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
I mean, yeah, the hustle, not the stuff of the hustle.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
I know we make this like we may get a
check for this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
I'm not sure, but listen to what he says it
and watch out smooth. My thing is this has two
point eight million views on it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Oh this is okay?

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
Who under thirteen thousand?

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Like, you better get the wow.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Doing for us? It's crazy, right, creak it up. You
got to hear from the beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Oh y'all freeze, stop around the house.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Damn shout clown.

Speaker 9 (01:07:07):
It out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Live clown freeze?

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
What clap shot?

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Why nobody like the clown?

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Oh y'all freeze? One mo clop shop? Please?

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
Yes, he could be you know what great about him?
It's like he could be somebody's deacon. He could be
somebody's host of the soul.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
Training like that. That's just classic black right there and then.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
And that's why when I seen it, I was like,
I don't know why this is not more talked about.
Then I heard that bust to Rhymes remix this last
year and he took this portion of the song.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
And I saw he made his ownline dance from this
or whatever. He got his own version of this song
and he took this part of it, like this part.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Yeah, it must not have did that good because they.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Heard it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
And of course we're in the culture of line dancing
and stuff, so a lot of people. None of my
crew knew it, but when I saw this, everybody was saying, oh,
I can't believe bus will try to remix this song.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
But some people do like it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Younger people are my comment section here and it's white
and I don't know, it just looks so clean and smooth,
like they just came from work. I don't know where
they came from, but everybody looks good. I believe that
Charlie Green, it is considered Charlie Green is considered a

(01:08:50):
UH and I learned this from the comment section.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Charlie Green is considered the the the m C from
back in the day in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
He passed the way I believe, I want to say,
but he is considered like legendary in Chicago, so I
was able to bring his I didn't know I was
gonna do that because that page that I got on Instagram,
I don't get no love, but millions.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Of people felt the way that I felt, and they
were like, yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
This is it for me. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
A lot of people, uh, chgo full of the steppers,
So you know they love that music. Every time I
DJ and this people from Chicago. There, if I don't
play some kind of step in music, they're gonna catch on.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
Run is real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
He got three point two million views and five I
said that instead of the bus stop, he called it
do the bus a bus?

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Oh I do remember this song Run.

Speaker 5 (01:09:42):
We're worried about no copyrights right good run that it's
promotion for them, the for real conglomerate.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Let's strike it up.

Speaker 11 (01:09:59):
Get yes, yes, yes, give me the folks flow the
floor so we can get down like come.

Speaker 9 (01:10:10):
We've done before the main my dadce it's called the
bust bus showing up guaranteed to make your jump. Give
me your clap right where you're staying because uh, once
you get down like come, do it like you bad?

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Well, big clap.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
Oh y'all freeze one more clapping.

Speaker 9 (01:10:36):
Do the bustle bus please two times?

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
Fo times letter see shut out two times?

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Agree with you?

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Let me see you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
See this this this have done much better than what
it what it has been matter what this is my repertoire,
because they might need to learn, especially now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
That this thing but line dancing is re emerging a
lot especially now. Yeah, this is this is fit. It's
a cute, good dance.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
Like that he does repeturnal. I want to hear his
barrow real quick, real quick.

Speaker 9 (01:11:20):
And everything I ever did fourteen heavy killow gold a
gallon on my besie, bad chick with her name tatten
on the belly legend.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Ever in on it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
You't reord me everything you're doing you.

Speaker 9 (01:11:31):
Already you know, and you can tell me never mind
only ye be thinking about you, Betty. That's cool, bad
that this could be like a classic trick gone for
a movie practice Mike, see him senteral.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
I like it.

Speaker 7 (01:11:47):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Put another rotation right, Okay, go back to the back
to that one.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Oh David, if you can put on YouTube? Uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Real big clap everybody freeze, clap bus stop please then
David getting the video. I want to lead the people
with something good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Have you seen the follow me routine? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Follow me?

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
Yeah, follow me. It's been out for a long time,
and now they have a whole dance to it that
they do. Yeah. The HBCUs have been doing it lately.
That and the cupid flex and now you know cupid flex.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Oh my god, I learned that, and I was like
you and I really liked it, and then I learned
it and I learned basically say, I said I could
do that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
But here's the bustop original.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
I don't think we can play all of it, but
let's play a little bit of it and we out
like my camera, right, let's drag.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
It up, crack it up, look it back in the day, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Uh huh, I'm young to understand. I need to sew
y'all my mama's pictures. Frame Mama, afro and daddy like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
So oh, yes, we're gonna get super chat before we
get out, showing up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
Give me clopp right up once you get down like
well to y'all freeze.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Well stop, it's so smooth.

Speaker 7 (01:14:04):
Yeah, got a kid.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Everything always, Let's get this time.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
I'm super Chat and we're out.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Of here, all right, you want me to start it
off here?

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Started off all right.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
Tiger says, couldn't sleep last night, was stuck awake with
stresses something. You're making a game plan for the missus
gets targeted by.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Is ice.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
You can't go across the border. They're checking phones. Now,
I'm losing it. Wow, we're praying for everything is gonna
wake up.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Yeah, man, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
See this is affecting people in more ways than one.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
Please keep posted on that U shut to a mega
star who sent one a super chat says this is
truly affair with with you, Rebecca. Another one for hate
from a mega star. We staying with Haiti absolutely send me.
Thank you for your super chat France. Oh was like
one hundred and fifty being two hundred billions andrew and people,

(01:15:16):
according to professor Jemima Pierre and Jo advocates for necessary
recognition for the devastating violence that happened.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Yes, Jesus.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
And another one last one from Omega star. Your voice
gives me so much hope. Keep fighting, Rebecca. We love you,
Yes we did.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
I know what you're talking about that, but thank you
so much.

Speaker 10 (01:15:37):
You love you?

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
All right, right, alrong, all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Right, Look that was it? All right?

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Listen, I know that y'all didn't know that was an
impromptu episode coming on today. We did miss Saturday, so
I always want to make up the wait.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Did you see them just drop down and get low?

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Baby, and they said.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
Look at it sharp too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
He said, no, y'all ain't doing it like me.

Speaker 5 (01:16:13):
And the back to the club. I'm bringing back the club,
going my best church suit.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Go in the comment sation and read it, and you
guys are gonna get so much everybody say, I'm bringing
that back.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Charlie Green was the one to make them, I guess,
and I learned it's just from reading the Chad. They said,
that's Oh, that's shot Town, that's Child, That's that's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Mister Green, that's they were like that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
I think his son is even in my child believe
that he's a DJ out in Chicago as well. All
of this is unfolding to me just posting this and
over almost three million people felt the same way I did,
just from a small little clib It's crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:16:50):
Let me cut but Becka, what what I love about
this the most is is that they're gonna be people who,
going as we progress further, gonna be people who try
to say that you ain't.

Speaker 5 (01:16:59):
Black because you not.

Speaker 6 (01:17:03):
You know what I mean a million times, but but
but you you key got roots and depth into an
insight and experience with some of the blackest of the
black black black experience America.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
You graduate somebody who is from literally South Florida and
while it is island, we know what South Florida details
is very black as well, and so like people don't
like to forget that I am born in America, and
but I am because of America's anti Haitian Haitian rhetoric,
I have to only say that I'm Haitian. I was

(01:17:37):
raised in a Haitian household. We were raised all things Haitian.
Pears didn't speak English. A lot of family members still
don't speak English to this day. And we have that
benefit because we are in South Florida. But they would
never let me be I went to school, to y'all,
I got friends with Black American to y'all, like even
though majority of my friend centation I me going to

(01:17:57):
an HBCU was because of my black teacher. Like you know, like,
let's they don't. People don't want me to be black.
They don't want to be black. And by black, I
mean Black American. I'm Haitian American, which still makes me black.
And we'ren't here which is American. But yes, culture wise, man,
I feel you on that one, Like, like I know
people who are Black American who are from my city

(01:18:22):
who have a lot of hatianness to them. They have
a lot of island dripped on them in their accent,
the food that they like, you know, culture, it's all.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
People always want to grab and hold on to it
and make sure it's theirs.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
And I'd be like y'all, historically, we can tie all
that stuff back to one place and it's okay, y'all,
And I know that we have our own of everything.
Even in the States. New Orleans has a way that
they look, they cook, they speak. Florida has a way
that we look, we cook, we speak dress. New York
has a way. It's the same thing. But when we
when it boils down to it, when the cops stop us,

(01:18:56):
your black ass is gonna get got.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
All right, I love you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Mean it, not on this Saturday, because I'll be out,
But if y'all want to get together this Saturday, that'll
be great.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
But I'll see you on next week, y'all, or the
week after all. I love you, mean it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Work that we're doing here is not gonna stop when
it comes to these type of discussions. It's gonna be
for us and by us here on this platform when
the media is telling us to look the other way.
Your support is what helps us move forward, join picture
on dot com forward slash like it or not help
us grows in the house.

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
You know, she got a funny story to tell, talking politics, culture,
her real life being stung a living life in the
atl Benjamin, Yeah, that's

Speaker 6 (01:20:10):
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