4/12/25 | How Do We Build Power? - Like It Or Not with Rebecca Azor

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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stop when it comes to these type of discussions. It's
going to be for us and by us here on
this platform when the media is telling us to look
the other way.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
Like it or not.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
It starts now. Dang, I thought it was like April
tenth today. I don't know why that came to mind,
Like I'm so how to change the date.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
But good morning, good morning, good morning. Am I loud?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Good morning, and welcome to like it or not? Well,
we're free to tell the truth.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
And not care who doesn't like it.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Sorry to me to be so loud, No, but you
know it gives loud because it's just the face of
what looks like is it's you, but it looks like
your son.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Oh, it's definitely my it's me. But yeah, you're right every.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Time, just and I'm talking about both of them. But
I think we had this conversation already. But it looks
just like Jeremiah. But it also looks like when it
was just maybe being before Jeremiah game.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
No, especially because Jeremiah has lost his two front teeth
now and so he's rocking around here. It's so adorable.
So it's crazy. His kids are the cutest things, right,
I mean yeah, until you got to snatch them up.
But yes, absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
And you know people should be snatching up they kid.
I mean not in a like a way where it's abusive,
but people should.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
You gotta get parameters. But they're they're cute until they
break the boundaries because then they're.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Like, shut up, mom, he you lis said.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
It gets crazy. I've seen it. The other day. I
saw this baby getting upset. I was on a run.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
I went on a run and I saw this child
getting upset with his MoMA, and yes, yes they were.
And while this baby was being like pushing, I was looking,
I'm like, maybe that's a dog carriages. You know where
I live they have those things, and maybe it's a
dog carriage that the baby is pushing. Baby had to

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be about three and getting upset because he couldn't push
from the sidewalk to this area that became gravel and
was just I mean when I say rocking that carriage
only to see it had to be a baby that
was five days old in there and a three year
old parent was like twelve steps behind, like too far

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this I'm talking about. That three year old was upset
and the parent was just smiling. I'm like, there is
a baby that is fresh out of somebody's roomb in
that carriage being pushed by a three year old, and
this carriage could tumble over at any moment. Left the
baby carriage ran back to the parent and was like

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like telling, get the baby careage.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Like the three year old yelling at the mama.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I couldn't believe it. I wanted to go reprimand everybody
involved in that. But so, yes, kids can be the
cutest little things, but little terrorizers, so you have to
put them in position. I'm not a mom yet, so
I wouldn't know, but I do see people who are
parents and what they got to go and deal with.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
It's crazy, but it's.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
A it's a you know't often wonder why would anyone
have children.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I want them because I want to see what it
would look like like. I want them because I want
to take care.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Of and I need to qualify that because I absolutely
love my kids. You know, it's just it's it's the
complexities of how much you love them and how it
just rips it. I don't know. It's like a NonStop
anxiety inducing experience, especially as they get older and they
want to go and just be and live and do
what they want to do. And it's like, oh, my goodness,

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my baby, when you got to let them go, that's hard. Wow,
that's hard. And then you think about how crazy society is,
it's like, wow, that's the worst. Yeah, but they're cute,
especially when they're snagger tooth. It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I love that. I love that.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I think I want to I think about those things too,
And there was you know, I have been somebody who
benefited from the system at some point when I wasn't
ready to be a parent. And now I'm like, you
know what, I really want to be a parent.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I'm old enough.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I am in a place where you know I want
to be. But here herees me little old school with it.
I want to be married and then bring a child
into the world because the people are crazy. Partnerships seem
to be something different than what I grew up seeing
and all the other things. But I want somebody to

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be in the household. I want a two parent household
that is healthy just because you have a two parent
household don't mean it's healthy, but I want a two
parent household. But I really really would love to raise
up a kid in a way that makes the Internet upset,
because the Internet is upset about Easter Ray, which I
do want to start with, but that makes the Internet

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upset that you worked hard to make sure you're kee
it didn't have to go through what you went through.
I want to be able to give my children that
opportunity and not be And I'm grateful for what my
immigrant parents did for me in America the best that
they could. At some point we were even living a
suburban life, right and that lasted as long as it could.

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And you know, I'm grateful. I'm so grateful.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
We even lived a life where my clothes came from
the thrift store.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I still love to thrift till this day, to this
love it. So, you know, all the things, but my
child I really don't want them to be a part of,
you know, a system that tells them you're black, you
don't deserve you have to struggle a little harder.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Nothing. I want to.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
I want to work hard enough and get to a
place where when I have children, there's no suffering.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I know they're going to be suffering. Now. Don't get
me wrong.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
When I say suffering, I mean like in their living
situation where I'm able to give them healthy living, insurance,
all the things. And I know that I might have
to look work a little harder, but somebody worked harder
for me, way way way back then for me to
be where I'm at right, So I want to be
able to do that for my kids.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
But I know the system is trying.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
To work a little too odd right now to make
sure that black folks don't have that uh, they perform.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
So that's the part of Rebecca. It's like we you know,
far be it for me to discourage anyone. I would
never discourage anyone from having children and expanding their family
because it is when it when when uh, and you've known,
you've known my family, I mean since uh since Jeremiah,
right or even a little bit before Jeremiah, and things

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have gotten so immeasurably more insane since that point, to
the point where I'm like, you know, I honestly high
key respect anybody who pauses and thinks twice about bringing
a child into this crazy behind world.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
No, absolutely, you know, And even speaking of that this
crazy behind world has a lot of twist and turns
that it takes because with us, like with you being
a parent, with me wanting to be a parent, with
them trying to take away a lot of the innovative
ways that people can become parents if they can't become

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parents naturally, them taking away programs and benefits for the
for the programs that they have in place that for
kids that are not wanted by parents, they put them
in a system that puts them in a system that
keeps them in a system that keeps them in a
system that keeps them in a system for them to
have create narratives that blame the child. And I don't

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like that when it's America that does the child wrong
and they force you to either have these children or
put them in these broken down programs systemically. I have
a best friend whom I love, shouts out to my girl,
and she was taken away from her family by the system.

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She's an emma and they forced her that they took
away from her family. She was literally on a trip
here visiting. This was in the nineties. She was on
a trip here visiting. The neighbors said that there was
some child in this household that doesn't have papers or whatever.
They took her. The system came and this is in
the nineties, took her away. Her parent left and she

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was visiting at the time her parent left or came
to get her and couldn't get her because the system
took her, changed the spelling of her last name, gave her.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
A different birth date.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Wow, put her in foster home, foster care, foster care,
foster care, foster care until a family decided to keep
her up until a certain amount of time. And she's
been in the system ever since. Right now, her green
card is about to expire. Mind you, the system has
had it, all that stuff, and right now her green

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card is about to inspire.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
They never gave her. They just told her she's just
in the system. That's it. You'll be You'll be in
the system for the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
She got a notification that her green card is going
to expire. She needs to find out where it is.
She needs to go get the paperwork done. This is
all just hitting her right now in her thirties.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Wow. Wow, And I mean that whole story. I don't
mean left. They changed her birthday, her name, everything, and
now she's having to deal with the whole trajectory's to know.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Where her family is. They far removed her from that. Yeah,
America did that. So what America is doing now is
not anything new. It isn't anything at all that is
surprising and may be surprising to people who are finally
recognizing at this moment that America has always had an

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immigration policy issue because there were never really policies that
were for immigrants, specifically black and brown ones, but they
were always anti immigrant.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
An interception.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
And they're Americans are immigrants themselves. It's probably historically, But
I want.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
To get into a couple of things.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
There's a lot of news that I want to touch on,
but I do want to talk about verse Ben, how
was your How was your week? How was your day?
How's it been going? I know that was to show
earlier this week. How you How have you been since.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
It's it's going Queen, I'm cooking. That's all I can
say is your boy is cooking every day. I know, folks,
I know I've been coming and going and people are like, Ben,
are you back? Are you not back? Sometimes I do
a show, sometimes I don't.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Do a show.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
But when y'all see what I'm done working on Not
only am I working on some stuff, there's like fundamentally transforming,
the groundbreaking and like God is good, like God has
opened up the universe and just poured all kinds of
knowledge into my head. But I'm also like preparing. I'm
working with doctor Mack on his calendars, the digital calendars.
You're you're working with him as well with your voice,
and so we're working on that out there. It's oh, yes,

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it's out there, but we're going I'm doing some commercials
for him. I'm doing some you know, there's a whole
lot of good stuff on that. So the app is
out there, and I suggest I recommend everyone go to
the App store and the Google play Store and download
Doctor Max Black Heritage Day app where you could listen
he narrates and there's additional narration. We play some of

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it on the air, So go ahead and download it already,
but just know that it is a continuous work in
progress and it's getting better and better and better every
single day. So between working on what I'm working on
and trying to meet the deadlines that I you know,
you know, sometimes you promise people you get stuff done
by a certain dates.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yes, yeah, no, no, Ben, I'm glad that you brought
that up. That's that's so interesting. It's true, the consistency
portion of it. I actually wrote up something that even
ties to that. Look how God works, that actually ties
something similar to what you're talking about. Basically, it's about
being consistent in this time right now. You're not touching

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yourself then, but you got a lot of work to do,
and people are wondering are you coming or going?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
And you ain't.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
You ain't never went nowhere. You're actually doing work, even
if there was behind the scenes. It's the balancing act,
right And I actually wrote like a little a piece
of my diary and I was like, you know what,
this is good enough for me to share. I was
going to share it actually on a few days ago
when I was crazy enough. I was let go from

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my newfound work.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's crazy, Ben, And I was let go because of
my work in politics, my work as a journalist. And
I want to read this with you guys, and then
we can, you know, go into today's story. Just want
to get this out the way. But I wrote something
called the Balancing Athlete. That was the title, and I said,
I've been feeling overwhelmed lately, trying to keep up with content,

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stay visible on the on all platforms, maintain a nine
to five which I've now been let go from UH
to make sure the basics are covered and still hold
space for creativity.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
It's a lot. The truth is, consistency feels out of reach.
Some days.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I'm constantly thinking about what needs to be edited, posted,
or planned while dealing with my own personal and mental hurdles.
I finally invested in new equipment, which I'm so grateful for,
but even that comes with the challenge of trying to
figure out how to make it all fit into my
beautiful but small apartment. I don't want to pretend that
I have it all together. I'm doing what I can,

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and even that feels like a stretch. I'm not stopping, though.
I'm committed to showing up even when it's quiet, as
you were talking about, Ben, even when it's messy, and
even when I'm tired. The platform, this one in particular
here on YouTube, is important to me because it gives
me space to share honestly without having to fight an

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algorithm to be seen.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Thank you for being here.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
While I navigate this there's more coming, not because I
have the perfect plan, but because I still believe in
what I'm building. So I had to write that out
for myself as an affirmation. But it's funny because I
wrote that right before I was let go. The next day,
I had been let go, and it was crazy, interestingly enough,

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that was what I just got and that was holding
me down then, you know, you know the things I've
been doing on the side.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is crazy. Like, you know, it's
hard when you get fired for certain types of jobs.
You're like, wait a minute, I ain't want to work
here in the first place.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's so crazy. You know, I'm crazy because I'm here smiling.
But immediately I thought, yo, you know, this is what helps.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Me do the work.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
And and but I keep having these stories and I'm like,
but I'm not really bothered about it, but I do
have to think about how I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
How I'm gonna like.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
This is what I'm talking about in order for me
to be a mother, in order for me to like,
my life has to be in order, and when people
are not seeing me or seeing the consistency, I got
to make sure. Like I just came from a trip
back home in Florida. That was me handling medical stuff
for both Mom and Dad surgeries. Okay, that was me

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having to do the other things for them as far
as paperwork, because again I am a product of immigrants
who don't have a full understanding of.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Things that are in in English or whatever the case
may be.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
And for a long time I've been taking care of
those things for them, mental wear and tear with all
of those things.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
So I don't say that for again.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I share these stories with you to show you the
reality and of people who really want to do the
work with their whole heart, and a lot of us
don't have it. Where we are platformed and are getting
paid for it. We have to have the other the
nine to five portions of it or whatever to keep
on holding the our line, to keep on being on

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the front lines.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
However it does you know.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Also, it's something that I don't I know that we've
done this and we had these conversations, but I don't
want the pity. I want the assistance and I want
the help, and I want to continue to do this work.
But you know, it's just I don't know. It's all
of that and one basically, but it's a balancing act.
And I want you guys to give people like Ben

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and I grace in these moments because Ben, you have
been I think you've been as consistent. You know, since
you've came back, you've been really consistent. I know before
it was difficult for you because you had to take
a step back for your own mental health, for the
health of your family, for the protection you know, for
you to make sure that your household is safe and great,
and also figure out financial plans that work for you

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as well.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
You had to do that in a balancing act.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
So coming back, especially in a time where we transitioned
into Donald Trump becoming president and overnight, every single day
things have been happening that effect specifically the black community.
It's really close to our homes, and that's it's more
than just a generalized thing or something that's you know,

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affecting just women and think it's there these these laws
or these executive orders that they're trying to force to
become law. These things are affecting us quite daily. But
we are wanting to do the work. We're here all
the time wanting to do the work, and it's tough
seeing people who are not serious about it, be pushed

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and be able to sit down every day before you
guys to give you pretty much nothing. But that's just.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
That's Rebecca. You be throwing some some some high level
internet shade, but I feel you because it's the truth
of the matter is is black folks have I know,
I know you didn't get racially specific, but I will.
Black folks have always had to do ten times as
much to get ten times less. Right. It's just kind
of the reality. And yeah, this transition for us, like

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for me in this last couple of years, has been
extremely let me just say like this, the only way
I survived was like like literally, well let me not
say literally, but let's say figuratively, spending time with God.
I had to I had to like go to the
I had to go meditate, man, I had to get
into the heavenlyes. And like, I haven't really asked questions,

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I'm like, God, what is we doing here? Like how
is it that the evil people are thriving? The the
evil black folks who barely black, how are they thriving?
And your folks down here, who are trying to do
your work at least at a minimum, we just we're

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trying to be kind. We're trying to help. We're trying to,
you know, not hold anybody down. We're not trying to
take advantage of anybody. In fact, if you want to
go one step further, everything that you do, Rebecca, everything
that I do, it's one hundred percent about liberating people.
And in the midst of our work, we have come
through hurdle after hurdle, crook after crook, hustler after hustler,

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I mean, to our detriment, to our financial demise, and
as we try to uphold integrity right and not and
not just going along with these crooks we've run into,
we end up losing, and I guess ultimately, in the
grand scheme of things, we didn't lose because in the end,
you know we're gonna win. But like this last four years, man, look,

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I was like, God, you have to talk to me.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
These last four years.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
What we didn't decern the pandemic in the middle of
the pandemic in the moment has been yeah, since.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Literally twenty eighteen, at least, no.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Before that, because we left in twenty eighteen, joined back
together right after Oh my god, twenty seventeen seventeen, at
the beginning of twenty seventeen.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yes, it was whole years.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Absolutely, the literally the beginning of Donald Trump in his
first s rain as president, and so this thing has
been going for a very long time. So seeing how
people didn't listen or seeing how it was.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
What is it called, it was very at that time.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
I was chosen because I was Haitian, I was exotic,
that's what they called me. And I was a journalist.
They ain't never seen nothing like that. It was like,
but in politics, I had to go through my own
personal experiences of boot camp, Benjamin Dixon's boot camp when
he came home, and not for the.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Purposes, but for the political side, because you know, to.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Had to break out of the formal and come into
this world where because these things are actually affecting me,
I can speak about it from that perspective instead of
just saying what is being done, we gotta have we
gotta start having calls to actions. That was where our
space happened, and I was just talking to Ole about this.

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I remember that space being so huge and coming in
us having millions of views daily, people all in the timeline,
people threatening our lives.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
The things that were happening there on those live shows.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
We had even call in at that time where people
were just open to saying whatever, either disrespectful or people
who were allies. And that was in twenty seventeen and
was interesting enough. We thought we were like doing these
things that were going to be seeds in the ground,

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and they were. But then we got into the next
phase of it, right, it got even crazier. We watched
white people get upset because Donald Trump lost the election,
and the things that we thought that would never happen
in this day and age happened. They took over at
the Capitol, threatened the lives our actual representatives, our leaders,

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they being white folks, not only white folks and trickles
of black people, but Trump supporters, the MAGA, and they
were domestic. There was an actual domestic terrorist attack happening
right in front of our eyes, funded by the right,
platformed by things like Facebook groups. They were literally planning

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this in broad daylight.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
And were not stopped.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
There were conversations that weren't Project twenty twenty five. They
were whistleblowing. All these things were happening, and we already
called it out years prior, and people were telling.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Us that we were ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
They were telling us to focus on the fickle, the
smaller things. And then that's when I realized, in that time,
while we were battling COVID, we were afraid we were
in our homes. People Black people had to go out
sacrifice their lives lives because we were being gunned down
by police officers. Yet we were being gunned down by

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police officers when we were calling it out over there
at the first and like it or not, in the studio,
we covered so many black people being murdered. I even
covered the fact that when they made the whole thing
about Blue Lives Matter. Yes there's a whole story I
did about that, and that was people were like, oh,

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that's so crazy, but let's move on. The officers literally
got together because Donald Trump gave them more power. The
thin Blue line had came out around that time, and
we were saying stop killing black people. Then Black Lives
Matter movement had came out, and then blue They immediately
created an alliance amongst cops and said Blue Lives Matter

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and did a whole commercial for it. All of that,
but we were calling it out, and you're telling me
that years later in twenty twenty, while we're having to
battle white folks starting people's lives COVID George Floyd.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
We watched this man die call me out for his mother.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
And then Breonna Taylor, which was something that happened in
the time before that was kept like a secret, was
brought to light that she was shot and the cops
got away with.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
It, away with it all.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
For that, yeah, all at one time, and so our
minds we're going crazy, like I'm saying, so in this time,
in this part of our life, we're going and we're
seeing this all happen, but we're still willing to do
the work because we're like, we're still going to be
here because this work actually matters, and we're here to

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do more than just pander to a certain type of
people or pander to the fact that we ain't got nohing,
but we were just certain topics just for us to
get a coin. Absolutely not, because if that was the case,
I would have done it.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I would have did that Becca, if that was the case.
All I would do is I would just I mean,
I know, I know how to work the algorithm, and
Lord knows, I'm gonna have to work the algorithm this
week because bills are do so I'm gonnaet out here.
I'm gonna put out some videos this week. But as
I put out videos this week, I want you to
know I'm hustling. That's not what I'm really doing. Because
if all I wanted and all we wanted to do

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was make money, I mean, there's been so many points
where we could have either sold out to bad intentions
of the people who were surrounding us, Like we were
in and we were surrounded by people with hustle intentions
regardless of who had heard and they were disguised as progressives, right,
So we could have gone along with that. We could

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have gone along with that, but we didn't. And even now, like,
we don't go along with that because at the core
of us, it's like, you know, we communicate a truth
that the algorithm doesn't like. And if we if we
were just to be quiet about those truths and only
talked about politics as it nicely fits in the Democratic Party,

(26:04):
then yeah, I mean we could probably be you know,
we could probably set right.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Now absolutely and and and I think what people don't
like to hear from these I just actually had this
conversation with with someone this morning, and I was saying, like,
because I'm watching people been you talked about. We were
working alongside people who were pushed as progressive.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
This is also thank you for bringing this up.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
There's so many points and we'll get to some some
news in a second, but I think that this needs
to be handled, especially.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
In context, Rebecca. I'm sorry, especially if you do in
context of the reason you lost your job, because I
think that's relevant to.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Make it clear.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
The reason I lost my job is because the work
that I do, the the place that I worked for,
and that you know that had nothing to do with nothing.
I work for people who are Trump supporters, not the businesses,
but the boss. Not only I challenged them. This is

(27:05):
what happened today.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I was let go.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
I challenged the person on their practices, so here go be.
The practices were they weren't good, and I was in
the meeting and I called it out. And right before
that meeting, I was called out by name for the

(27:29):
second time. And I had written an email to my
boss for I checked in with you about my mental health,
you know, and I said that before these meetings, please
let me know before you are placing my name out
there for any reason, so I can eat like so
I know what's gonna happen before these meetings. Every time

(27:49):
I'm coming into these meetings, this and that and that
the other. And then I then I challenged them in
that same meeting about their practices, about their way of
doing things that are very deceptive and they target once
again a certain type of people. And I said this
in the meeting immediately after I was told because of

(28:13):
the work that I do on you know, it's I have.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
To be let go.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
They found they found you on the internet.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
They've been found me on the internet.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
They were waiting for a moment, and like my camera,
they were waiting for a moment to and that's what
they chose. And so while I changed my battery, Ben
you can you can go ahead, because I want to
actually talk about you pointed out the progressive movement. Yeah,
and I want to talk about how we went from
it actually being a movement to it dying down and

(28:43):
where we are today, because I want to talk about
how progressive and left, being a person on the left
has become very performative instead of actually doing the work.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Go ahead, Well yeah, no, no, I mean, so hang,
I'm trying to get something. Oh David, are you still here?
Because the screen is going on it all I thought
you were going. But anyway, in terms of that, Rebecca,
because one actually I got to start back here. It's crazy.
It's crazy that you ran into that situation on your job.
But if I'm going to keep it one hundred over

(29:13):
the last four years, you know, as much as I
as much as I locked in and focused in on
what God was having me to do. Also, it was
like I got to take care of my kids. So
I was applying everywhere. I was applying for jobs everywhere.
I even went back and applied to a job with
a company that absolutely love, still respect and loved them,
but they said no too. And I realized, I'm like,

(29:37):
you know, once you cross a certain threshold of commentary
on the Internet, you can almost hang it up, especially
if you're not if you're not nicely within the whatever's
mainstream at that time, and what's mainstream at the time
as we were, you know, the last couple of years.
You know, it was like it was a combination of

(30:00):
Donald Trump is a little bit, but resistance to Donald
Trump mainly and the Democrats and standard Democrat talking points,
and if you go outside of that parameter, then you
know it's gonna be hard for you to one get
the algorithm traction as well as to get work, but
even more so now we're living in a different time
totally now where if you are not loyal to MAGA

(30:21):
and your boss is oh yeah, you can almost you
could almost hang that up, especially if you're out in
public talking about that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
No, it's facts, and they all knew what people of
course they know what I do. They probably won't see
me on my own page, they'll see me on somebody else's.
You know, I'm grateful and blessed to work alongside people
who have great platforms, big platforms, but people also know
me from my work in the beginning of this whole
thing with Donald Trump, you know, when we were always

(30:52):
on viral daily, you know, from our first company that
we worked for. But that was when Ben, I want
to go back to that point you brought up. That
was when I found out that those people who have
been the poster boards for the progressive movement, for the
left movement, for the Black Lives Matter movements are not

(31:17):
at all pure hearted. Oh no, Hule, Yes, and don't
get me wrong, this is our work. Like I say
all the time, you gotta get paid, and you gotta
do the things. But realizing that the people who were
at the forefront really gave no were curating this idea

(31:39):
that they're doing the work, and the whole time they
were not. The whole time. It was just as performative
as the people we were seeding to be our leaders.
Like when I think about actual leaders and and and

(31:59):
fight when y'all mentioned, you know, when we mentioned doctor
Martin Luther King, who had his problematic ways, he was
willing to walk outside and get what assassinated.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
His life is on the line.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
These people that we see today collect the coin, collect
the coin, collect the coin, collect the coin, become brand ambassadors,
which is good because trust me, I think it's great,
But they the performativeness continues. I love to see people
glow up. Let's be one hundred percent clear about that.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
When you you do not have to look like what
you've been through. If your work is allowing you to
get paid, you good hearted and you don't moved on up.
I love to see it, and nobody should hold Nobody
who's watching us and supporting us should want us to
stay at a place.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Where it's like I's just coming on.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
He was for the fights.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
No, we don't work.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
We gotta fight, we gotta you know, I love a
good glow up from that. But then we're watching people
who who are we clearly are not. When when they
aren't making the money, they begin to pander, they have
to start chucking and jiving, switching up verbiage, making things
real general, and then they stopped doing the work altogether.

(33:13):
But still are the people who are called to the
front line in the fight. And somebody that we used
to work with or alongside something, something that you actually
were heading and I was a part of us, to
be a part of that never saw the light of
day in that version.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
In that version, let's keep it behind the north.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Which I was just told, bro Ben. I was just
told that the north Star has made its way. It
has like a platform on behind a paywall, and I said, wow, Wow,
the north Star is behind the paywall. And I don't know,
I think it's on Patreon. I don't want to get

(33:58):
that wrong, but it is behind the paywall where he
send like he still he does it like a podcast
or something. I'm not sure, but to you a formula
he never came up with. This is what I'm trying
to say, I watched you.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Make that thing from scratch.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
I saw you and the documentation you sent it over
to me, the idea, what you did, who you pulled in,
who you worked with, even in the city, the drives
you were making up and down.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
The street looking for stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
How we repurchased the same place you used the Funding
for Good at least your portion, repurchasing a place that
literally let us go for doing black coverage about what
Donald Trump was doing in donald in that time under
Donald Trump's presidency. Because we decided to focus while working

(34:51):
for the white folks on doing black coverage in that time,
they let us go and they left that studio sitting there.
And Benjamin, if y'all don't know this, I'm telling y'all
story is this is this is what happened.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Benjamin P. Dixon purchased it back.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
That was pretty smooth, that ain't that? Was that?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (35:16):
The same place that y'all had a slave in it
saying our stuff, but like BT telling us not to
do none of this stuff. No mo, he used the
Funding for Good, purchased that studio back, had people in there,
great people, people who were former journalists, people who had
journalism experience, all the things product production experience.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
It was high level and.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
We were having our news meetings, we had the offices
set up. It was it was beautiful to see and
going back in there, it was like we were reclaiming
a moment. And I was like, dang, Ben, I really
watched you do this. You even contacting the original the
who's the originated? And let me not sound crazy, the original
in the North Star?

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Oh, the family, the family short to get the.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Okay, and you did and you did. And that's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
The work that we were doing there that never saw
the light of day, never saw the light of day,
and somebody else got all the credit for it.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
No, no, no, no, not all the ool. Oh see, I
don't know how much is this that could actually stay online?
But I don't even really care anymore, Not so much
the credit, but the critical funding that was necessary for
this moment. Can you imagine if we had a successful

(36:37):
run over the last how many years since The North
Star and where we would be positioned now, But particularly
Rebecca in the fight right, think about t y T
t YT is dead right, They're they're they're dead to us,
They're dead to progressives. They are spending more time fighting
with with their ex employees and contributors than they are

(37:02):
fighting the fight that needs to be fault right now,
we need in this moment what we were creating back then.
But you know, and we're not reflecting. I guess this
is the day of reflection. And remember I think these
types of types of days and shows are critical and
I learned that from you. Right, we have to pause
and reflect because anybody, anybody in the audience right now,
who has been with us any significant amount of time,

(37:24):
whether it be four years, seven years, yeah, ten years,
eight years, Rebecca, and then like what I started in
twenty fourteen, so that's eleven years, right, anybody who's been
with us in any significant amount of time, You've seen
these changes. You've seen these trajectories, you've seen these outcomes,
you've seen these ebbs, you've seen these flows. You've seen
us be successful, you've seen us lose everything in real time,

(37:45):
live on every even our minds. So it's important for
us to remember this because when and as God starts
dropping and opening the doors, that will elevate us and
amplify us to obscene levels of influence and it's not

(38:09):
influence for ours. Neither one of us want to be
famous for fame, like I'm just as good not being
ever seen. Right, Neither one of us are so interested
in money except for our needs, like we want to
take care of our families. What we're interested in is
the fight. Yeah, and progress, And anybody who's been with

(38:29):
us this long, they'll know and they'll see, and we
want y'all to keep riding with us, right, Like we
we are not the type of if we were the
type of people who when we got money, we changed,
then we wouldn't even be in the situation we were
in because we'll still be getting money and we'll still
be out there getting a bag. So we're here for
a specific reason. We're here for a specific fight, and

(38:51):
so we got to you know, you and I even
as a duo as a team, like we have to slide,
I mean, and we're not forgetting DJ exclusive because he's
been an integral part of this, especially since the beginning
of the pandemic when we relaunched like it or not,
but just as a team, like, we're both grounded in
the fight above our own personal financial interest and that's

(39:13):
gonna turn around because I think that pays off those
receieds that we were planting.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
No, And I think the remembrance is what Like even.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
The other day when I had that call or that
meeting where they let me go, I went back into rememberance.
I said, that's because no matter what I do outside
of this, no matter how far I try to run
outside of this, the purpose I cannot put that somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
I had.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
This is my This is why it's burning in my
heart to do this type of work. Not because I
want to be viral.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I've been that. Not to toot my own horn, but
we've been that.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
We had times where it was a very difficult time
to become black black people in the space.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
To even have millions of views in.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Twenty six seventeen, twenty eighteen, what a time, right, and
we were pushing that. Thank God that we built that
place and helped them get the numbers because they was
dry without us.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
They the people that they had before.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Remember them when the first when it first started with
the people, it was like this is so white. And
no offense to that, but I say that to say,
because I was there, I was able to see and
understand what you were trying to or what you essentially
taught me, and that was, girl, how is this affecting you?

(40:36):
Do you not see how this is affecting you? You
need to talk about that this affects you, and you
being you're like you know, you being a younger millennial.
You got everybody don't.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
They can't. They can't process what's really happening.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
They just think their days are gonna be the same
and the thing's gonna affect them, and da da da dah.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
But this is what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
And when I realized that part of it, and when
I realized that there are people who are leading this
with us who claimed that they are allies, but they
are not. They just get in the check. They're pandering
to a certain kind of people. They switched up their
their verbiage. Some people like, for instance, they'll stand in America.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
We have to understand.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Even the people that we see right now who we love,
who are politicians, they're politicians.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Don't forget it.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
So when we're expecting somebody had posted something about, oh well,
don't forget that Joe Biden did this and that and that.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
We ain't never been no fans of joke we ain't
never been every day.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
On one of my first appearances on.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Rising on the Hill that was the first time I
talked about was Title forty two and how that was
put in place and Donald Trump used it and Joe
Biden said.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Let me yeah. But what is the reason that on today,
April twelfth, twenty twenty five, people are trying to grasp
for straws about the Biden administration when we are living
in hell with Donald Trump every single day. We don't
have to say, oh my gosh, so they did it too.
They did it too, They did it too. I'm watching

(42:20):
people like you doing that is doing. What are you
trying to say that Donald Trump was just as bad? No,
Donald Trump is worse. We need to stay right here
with it.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Yes, we need to.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Stay right here with it. Stop trying to be like,
well they did we know that they did it too. Politicians, presidents,
everybody got blood on their hands. I'm watching people I
love create brands off of stuff, say problematic things every day.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Well, I wouldn't say people I love, but people.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
I am proud of black women in these spaces as politicians,
you know, congress women. All the things we talked about
how Cringey the Jasmine Crockett was not too long ago.
We're not afraid to do that. But does that make
Donald Trump any less of who he is or the
right or the the conservative Congress people it softer or like. No,

(43:08):
these people are real. They're worse. They will bury you alive.
They don't care about you, your family, your job, your
health care.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
They don't care if you live to see the next minute.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
So that's why I say I'm seeing a lot of
people who are supposed to be the progressives and the
panda They will switch up their verbage so quick. That's
why I will say I had a very if people
who didn't vote didn't vote because they held their vote, fine,
but people who were on both sides of the fence
giving me this today and giving me this tomorrow depending

(43:46):
on what their audience wanted to hear.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
M h That was problematic for me.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Some of these people who are in this space, who
are at the DNC inside taking pictures with people, but
also outside taking pictures with the protesters.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
That was very strange to me.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Mm hmm. Which one bring me back?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
That was?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Help me recall that there.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
I don't want to I don't want to call the
person out, But there was who was, you know at
the DNC, who was pushing you know that they shouldn't
be home with dncry what year?

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Give me the year?

Speaker 1 (44:20):
And that helped past year with you past year, I'm
saying to say, over the years, I'm just watching so
much flipping.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I'm seeing so much, so much of.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
The stress happening, like I'm I'm seeing so much of
the breaking happening amongst what we're supposed to be together.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
We're never together.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
The left aingt and thing progressive ding the thing all
that was an idea and I think it was a
popular idea when we first came out during the like
they or not in the first thing, the progressive idea
was beautiful, but then you haven't and a genuine from
your heart.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
But then there are people who pushed it because it
was popular. Remember we used to call it the resistance, yep, the.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Resistance, the fight, and then when that died down, it
became a whole nother thing. It's like we just tattoo
a name on it, and then we're outside and we're
looking for and the left is looking for this idea
that and it's not all the left. But the left
is a problem. It's just the problem, and it's whole
framing because nobody right now really wants to do the

(45:29):
actual fight. It's algorithm, it's picture taking, it's it's like
nobody is willing to do. It's like, you gotta be popular,
and you gottam and if you're not popular, you gotta
bend it a little bit and pander a little bit
and not really choose a side to stick with the

(45:49):
even when everybody may not like it. That's okay. I
think that's what progressive means. We may not all have
the same thinking, but we're we're still on the same
team in some way, shape or form. But these people
pander almost where it becomes very counterproductive. And you'll sit
there and you'll watch these people. It's a problem. I'm

(46:13):
watching it. I'm hearing conversations. I'm literally watching people get
upset at the smallest things and not.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Really see that.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
You are. Your verbiage about Donald Trump right now to
people is making them think that they're not going to
vote in this next election as well. Let me not
care about what's gonna happen for the for the next
four years, because it will still be just as bad.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Oh you're talking about Oh see see, Now this is
something that if you don't mind me jumping in here,
this is something that's a little bit triggering. And I'm
hearing you piece it together. Right. So there's a subset
of people on the left, in the progressive spaces who
like to number one and who this is nuanced. And
I hope the audience and I know you guys can

(46:58):
follow along with us, but I just want to make
sure I stated all number one, we ain't no fans
Joe Biden. I got to start there. I voted for
the man because I prefer I prefer what we don't
have what we had. I prefer what we could have had,
not what we currently have. We look at what Donald
Trump is doing. And you asked me why I would
have voted for Kamala Harris. Well, I've vote for Kamla

(47:21):
Harris for several reasons, in addition to and above the
fact that she wasn't Joe Biden. But if we're gonna
go back to Joe Biden and not neither one of
us on this show a fan of him, and one
thing I am frustrated with is the number of people,
like you said, who are still trying to do two things.
Number One, it's still people who are trying to cover
for Joe Biden. And why are we even talking about him.
He's gone, Let him be gone. We ain't got to

(47:41):
celebrate him. We ain't got I will always remember what
he did in Gaza. Number Two, you cannot tell me
that what we are in right now is not immeasurably worse.
Joe Biden committed the genocide of Gaza. Right. What Donald
Trump is doing is destroying in our entire capacity to

(48:03):
fight back against the genocide and Gaza, to fight back
against anything that's happening on the international stage, to completely
and totally neutralize the ability of Americans of any class,
of any demographic to organize and fight. Right. They just
got approval to deport our brother from Columbia University. Right.

(48:28):
All he did was criticize Israel. Right, And so we
can't do two things right now in this moment. Number One,
we ain't got time for nobody who's still making excuses
for the Democratic Party, making excuses for Joe Biden. And
we don't have any time for anybody who's trying to
say that Donald Trump ain't worse.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
He is we have to be able to say that,
and I think that was the problem. So I have
like some notes here right that I had written down
because I was going to do a segment about this,
but I want to talk about this the twenty sixteen
and like the progressive and asy we know that it
was a thing Bernie Sanders remember that the whole rise
and that was like the grassroots people was coming out

(49:07):
of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
It was great to bring everybody together. I think that was.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Where the genuine energy from, you know, us talking about
health care, universal health care, all the things that people
would were scared to talk about before we were.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
We were coming together with that.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
They had a mission and now it's less about the
mission and it's more about the the reality. We talked
about this too with me in La reality TV afication
that's that's not a word.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
But now it's about that aspect of it.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
You gotta you gotta drop merch, do do like uh
six jobs to to to get your word out there.
Do a little bit of spicy clap back. It ain't
even you, it ain't even your personality, but.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
This you got to do it.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
But you gotta do it like it's you got to
do it.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Then it's it's like I think when the left became
because I can't the right has always been covered by
they they cover each other.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
The left don't got that.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
They know they'll they'll see they people and they'll be like,
let's continue to push.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
This person, Let's give them branding.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
That's why we That's why Candice Owens won't fail right now.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
She she just she fails for a little bit, ran
to us and then went.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Right back to them because they was like, no, no, no, no, no,
come on back, my good sis. We need you to
continue to shuck and drive, diamond and silk those people
that came under the first regime of Donald Trump, and
one of them gone, didn't gone. Now you know, these
are the people that come on the right, But we

(50:50):
have some of those people on the left, and I
think it's the same thing, but it doesn't. It also
doesn't work the same. We're seeing people literally before.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Our eyes tell us that our eyes are lying.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
They kind of doing some they're leaving the work behind
only to get the dollars. We saw that when the
Black Lives Matter fell apart. We were actually working alongside
some of those people at the North Start and we
ain't never see them a day in our life, and
they was collecting the coin.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
They was collecting a coin.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Then come on, come on, while we were over.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
There meeting every day doing work, they never met with us,
They never called us, never checked them for a meeting.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
This was actually happening.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
So it sucks that we have people in these groups
that really do not care about the fight once they
start to see dollar signs. Because I don't get me,
don't get it wrong, I'm gonna do something strange for
a piece of change, but it's gonna have to make
sure that it does not dilute the work. It does
not remove absolve us from holding ourselves accountable on how

(51:55):
we are giving it up as well. We must. We
have to got to be very careful in how we
like the right gives it up without no, they don't.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
They don't. They don't mince their words.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
They're gonna say nigga.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
And that's it us.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
We're like, well, you know, black adjacent black, non white.
You know, it's like, no, continue to do the work
we got. We need to make sure that we never
pander two people. Stop it.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
I know it does pay.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
But pandering is what's gonna cause us to have another
four years where Donald people like Donald Trump or his
administration skate in, skate in. We gotta do the work.
This is what I was saying. I don't like right
now is not the time for us to have Sally
online giving the damn protest even though a lot of
people didn't go who were black, but given those damn

(52:56):
protest ratings because it didn't have a damn bounty house. No,
so performative allyship has replaced the real organizing. I said
this because corporations and politicians are like, say that all
the right things, and then they fund the wrong people,
and then those people are voting against the real change.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Yes, people out here.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Like we did so much work for people's stuff to
be put in the stores like Target, Yes, yes, and yeah,
all this stuff, and immediately because the stakeholders didn't understand
if they support a little bit of change and positivity
and togetherness, that that will affect their pockets. That is

(53:44):
the risk.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
But they didn't want that.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
So immediately, these businesses that swore up and down that
they are gonna finally do some change in America put
these black people who will probably never have the opportunity
to have this happen to them, but to put their
stuff in stories. Now they're saying, you know what, nigga,

(54:08):
that's exactly what we're seeing happening, and it sucks. And
people are saying, well, why don't black folks just get
together and do where's the money? Mm hmm, where's they're
not they don't want us to do it. I'm not
saying no, we're not doing I'm not saying people are
not trying it. Look at us right here doing this
show right now today with five people viewing.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Yeah, we love everybody, y'all, all five of y'all. It's
so grateful for everyone of y'all.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
It's like when we are in this place and.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
I think we don't we can't call them out that
it's becoming performative and we start just drawing the line
and we just.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Have good words to say, Oh.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Donald Trump doing this, and oh that's why I'm not
I'm not backing down on my immigration conversation. I've been
talking immigration since today. I settled in that that over
there in that town where we did like it or
not the first time. I will not remove myself from
the immigration conversation. People want me to let up on it.
I won't because you know why this thing has been happening.

(55:12):
Donald Trump has been literally saying what he was gonna
do eight years ago, and here we are eight years later,
and every single thing he threatened us, what is happening?
One thing?

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Hang on, let me jump in there real quick, because
that's the thing. Like, listen, I ain't never called myself
no profit. That ain't my bad, That ain't what I do.
I don't think you ever rec refer to yourself as
a prophetess. But it's not literally everything that we have
been saying over the last eight years coming into fruition.
And I'm not saying this to say I told you so,

(55:44):
I'm saying this to tell everybody. Yo, you know, you
might want to listen to the folks who actually saw
this coming years before anybody else saw this coming. And
that's because one, when you think about your position as
an immigrant, Rebecca like you are the first to feel
the impacts of this, whether it's Joe Biden or Donald Trump,
Title forty two, your parents, your family, your cousins. You

(56:09):
feel it not only in that regard, but you also
feel it as a black American and as a woman,
and as a woman and I feel it as a
black man in America and as a father trying to
raise kids on a planet that they trying to destroy
and that they spreading measles on. So it's like we
are in these positions and we feel these impacts first.
So it's not really you know, I say profit and

(56:29):
all that kind of stuff, But what I'm really saying
is those of us, like people in our chat rooms.
I'm sure all of you saw this coming because one,
this is a working class show. We got a lot
of working class viewers, and I know you all have
been feeling the impacts on the just like we did
when we had to go sit in on unemployment lines
after we got fired, or they shut down that first

(56:53):
progressive show. You know, anyway, go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
So no, that's great.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
So basically, tell I think some Democrats are using identity
politics to shield from critique. They basically like, you can't
call me out because I am a woman, or I'm black,
or I'm lgbt qu y A plus.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
I don't like when they do that either.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Some of y'all over here just because I'm Haitian don't
mean y'all can't call me out on how whatever. Because
I'm black, y'all, I could be giving you all wrong
information while I'm just pandering right. I don't care what
group you're from. You can be a problematic person in
this space as well. You are not above being criticized,
So don't don't use it as a shield just because

(57:38):
I've watched people.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Do that, like the people at t y T.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
I don't give a damn white adjacent products of immigrants
y'all on that talking about some So now you want
to mispronounce my last name and all this other stuff,
and girl, please, you're still wrong because essentially you just
call people niggas and you literally just advocated for people
to continue. They're like cops. I remember they were advocating

(58:05):
for cops to do x Y. They had some kind
of conversation they called Olay onto their platform. Jank behaved
just like Elon Musk that day, basically trying to trash
Olay because of her stance on cops and saying that

(58:26):
they were doing copaganda on TYT at that time. And
Jank brought her on and try and talk to her. Ridiculous.
I'll never forget it. But she's a lawyer, so she
can give it. From a actual professional perspective, and they
tried to handle her behind. You. See, it's problematic because
that's a space that was supposed to be progressive and

(58:47):
now here you are telling us that it's okay in
some way for black people to be murdered by cops.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
And that it's not always about color. See, I don't
give it. I don't care. So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
These platforms become problematic as well, and they should not
be shielding themselves because of their underneath the marginalized umbrella,
because you could be problematic too. And then I also said,
you know, it's all been since we're here, reduced to

(59:18):
a performative metric.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
I just talked about that if you're if you're progressive,
you got to say the right things, but you don't
really have to do the right things as long as
you say the right things. And now it's like we're
giving the progressive movement in All Lives Matter feel and
I don't.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Well, see that's where the that's where they think the
new money is and this is where we go. Right,
you go into the hustle for money and you've been
Now this is something you've been calling and I think
you've called it out, even to my I wasn't fully
on board with you. You rejected DEI before I did, and
actually I don't I don't quite reject it. You rejected
it for a very specific reason that I think we

(01:00:02):
are seeing in TYT right now. You already know what
I'm about to say, right so, with the opportunity you
you called out the corporations. You were like, then they
just doing this for profit because it's popular. Now they
see what happened in just four years ago, they see
what five years ago, what happened with George Floyd, They
see everybody's on what blah da dah dah. And you
called it out. You said, as soon as it's not
popular anymore, watch them abandon shit. And that's the same

(01:00:25):
thing that happened with every single corporation that's ditching DEI.
That's that same exact thing that's happened with TYT.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I called it. I called it. I said, I don't
like this de I idea.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
It's not because that they're not DEI is first of all,
not only they made it just black. DEI has been around.
Let's not let's not get that twisted. DEI has been around,
but for some reason, h we woke up one day
and they.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Made DEI equal to just black.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
And that bothered me because then we saw more officers saying,
put the man or the woman, the black person over there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
To hold down.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
For us to do a checkbox about covering that DEI portion,
which is the black portion, and they're the ones holding
down what needed seventeen people on the team, but that
one person is holding all the work down for themselves.
It was like they put that on us and it
became a burden for us instead of actually making it

(01:01:26):
feel like equality right, making it actually feel diversity and
an inclusion. They were like, here, dang, we put that
black person in a position, but we ain't gonna do
all seventeen them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
We're gonna put one. That's it. And then they tattooed
that on everything.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
When de I was supposed to be for women, when
di I is supposed to be for disabled, when the
d mind you, black people fit into all those groups.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Too, but they made it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
They had to make it the focal point being black
because they knew that this day would come where they
would make DEI equal, not you just being black, but again, nigga,
I don't like it. It's it's so distress.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
If doctor Mack is watching our show today, he is
going to call you and he gonna call me every
time you say that word.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I know, sorry, but that's what that I say it
to show you. That's what they're calling us. And they're
calling us with the er and I yes, and they
I said that DEI is gonna be problematic because we
saw what happened with Twitter during COVID. The CEO, the
then CEO was like, you know what, We're gonna make
sure that we give the people who built uh this

(01:02:36):
platform all of their flowers and we're going to let
them stay home, but we're going to make sure we
have our black cultural Twitter space at the job, you know.
And it's we're going to make sure everybody knows that
Twitter was built literally by black people, that the platform
grew because of the black culture.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
As soon as Elon Musk got.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Upset purchased it, uh, he went, he did away with
all of that, all of it. Donald Trump made it
seem like dee I was only and mind you, when
they did away with de I, people think it's only
because of black people. They they people were getting upset
last year that pilots were black and saying because of

(01:03:20):
DEI pilots were black. It doesn't make any sense. This
is what these were, what people who They were firing
people in positions like I think at heart, I want
to say it was at Harvard. There was a woman
who had of Asian descent who was the president. I
want to say, was it Harvard or Yale? It was

(01:03:40):
one of those Ivy League schools, And all of a
sudden they were saying that was a DEI higher. She
was no longer in that position anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Immediately, Oh, you're talking about well, hang on, and you're
not talking about the president of Harvard, are you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
It was one of them who had to step down
because they did not want her to be that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
And I'm trying to remember, but I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Trying to remember Claudia Claudia, but I'm trying to remember
if she had to step down. But I do remember,
quite honestly, Hell.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Rub things up on her.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
They made sure that the no matter everywhere that we
saw MSNBC are progressive. And I just put that because
when I talked about it, I did this show people
like Rebecca.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
MSNBC is not progressive.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
It's progressive that if y'all see my fingers, theseus doing
air quotes, it's progressive, right, It's the most progressive space
in mainstream news. And they hired their DEI hires when
twenty twenty needed that black revolutionary time right where there
was a reckoning for black people, remember, and they hired

(01:04:49):
Joyanne Reid, that's what she went on. They hired join in,
They give her own show. What's the young lady's name?
U Cross?

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yes it is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
And they had hired Tiffany Cross as well as Abby Phillips.
Went to CNN, but MSNBC how these people and then
quickly remove them no matter how well they were doing.
We watched TV shows get pulled d I right, oh,
because they was putting them in saying we're diversity, we're
diversitive where we have inclusivity. I remember they were putting

(01:05:24):
Netflix put a whole section for black media, hiring black producers.
All that was happening, and just like that, these same
spaces that said that they would protect black artistry black
people put people in positions that they never were going
to put them in. Because of DEI allowed black producers

(01:05:46):
to create create spaces and jobs. All these things were happening.
People were getting positions that they never would have got,
and everything was recent that I watched people lose their jobs.
I watched the Netflix quietly removed that whole area that
they created for black folks, removed it, and people were fired.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
They were online saying, I ain't got no job.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
You ain't got no job.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
They have a job all because of this idea that
I said. They're not trying to celebrate di Donald Trump
does this thing where he planned seeds. We're talking about
planning seeds earlier, when in his first reign as president
he planted seeds. Then only for him about Haitians, remember,
only for him to come today and actually put stuff
down in the ground, a seement and foundation and start

(01:06:37):
building homes around, a disrespect around, hate them, and push
out anti Haitian laws, because America's always been anti Haitian,
anti immigrant, anti black and brown immigrant, anti black and
brown Americans. But we're seeing that he already put those

(01:06:58):
things in in the His hate for immigrants was in
the first, His hate for black people was in this first.
He made sure he never mentioned words he might have
said a little bit or let other people say it
for him. Now today he's standing in places and saying
it out loud and allowing people on his team in
that administration everywhere, people who are your doctors, And I
was saying with you for your doctors, your lawyers, right,

(01:07:19):
your bosses like mine, everybody now can be like I
just don't you're black.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
And they that's the crazy part. This is the funniest part, right,
It's crazy as funny, And it's like, God, did you
see this? And I know God does, right, But the
absolute unmitigated gall of these white sub premises, these subpar,
sub mediocre and Neanderthallythics, sub Neanderthals. They're not even as

(01:07:47):
intelligent as Neanderthals. These are the Marjorie Taylor Greens, the
Charlie Kirks, this entire mag of movement, the unmitigated call caucacity,
the unmitigated caucacity of these cave dwelling troglodytes to be
only been you repeat that, these cave dwelling troglodytes, to

(01:08:11):
be free to insult Black people, just freely. No quality, no, no,
no specifics, no nothing. Charlie Kirk's get on a plane
and he sees black pilots and he says, oh shucks,
the plane's going down. Right. This is this is the
kind of time that we're in. We have given a
we have Donald Trump has created a world where white

(01:08:31):
folks are free to just cast aspersions on all things black,
all things brown. And we're in the stage in world
history again again. We're back here where there's a sub
group of white folks who think they are literally just
better because they are white, absolutely insane.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Ain't got no teeth in no corners, no health, no
health insurance helping them out now, they can't even get
they Madison's and some of them lost their jobs too,
and they still out here toothless, jobless, and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Still still looking for Donald Trump to help them out. No,
it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Marjorie Taylor Green, I look ever since that she compared
her to that then long ago, years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
It's like a k person, a woman. I've never unseen that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
And then when she was walking with them sandals on
her feet, was filthy that day. I never And these
are the people that say that they're better than nots.
They sit around with bedazzled maga hats.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Yeah yeah, And how you how you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Working in Congress and your feet dirty like that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Do you remember that you had to because you brought
it up her dirty foot behind?

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Like, man, Look, this is our these are our leadership
to think it better than us. When we got people
coming up there to the nines, and this is how
you this is how you roll them up that look
like you ain't even.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Wash you ain't watched the feet. Listen, let me be
the dress forward eighty four eighty four because I know,
and I know, I know ninety nine percent of our
audience don't need this, and I know Ford well enough
to know, uh that they don't need me to say this,
but I do want to say this. Of course, it's
not all white people, but y'all got to get y'all cousins,
y'all gotta get y'all folks, y'all gotta get out there

(01:10:15):
and and and fight them and and and to be sure,
I have seen a lot of white folks stand up
in this moment, so we know it's not all white folks,
and we we we have white friends. Ford, you one
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
White men?

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. One of my favorite shows now
that my wife has my wife has successfully turned me
into a couch husband in that like ninety Over the
last four years, ninety nine percent of my time has
been studying. But in the last two months, in particular,
my wife has got me hooked to Law and Order
and matt Lock, the new Mattlock, not the old matt Lock,

(01:10:50):
the one with Kathy Bates from Misery. Absolutely love that show,
and I love the I love the friendship that she
has with the black woman on it. Like we hope,
we hope that there's a future where black folks and
white folks can live in peace and solidarity because we
just want to love and live. But y'all, cousins, I

(01:11:11):
need y'all to go get.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Them every time, every time we try to live with
y'all in peace. Look with people like Donald Trump come
and do they be like no, no, no, no, no,
and aint we ain't doing that. We got a whole
immigrant from another country run things in the White House
and y'all just yeah, And it's it's they ain't even
y'all cousins for white folks swearing up and down y'all

(01:11:34):
like y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
They look at y'all like y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
That's why he's trying to take over so that he
can now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Do what they all do the original colonizers, right, Americans
have they swear up and now that they're the best
country in the world, but nothing really shows that they are.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
They just believe that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
I would give that to Americans. White folks the confidence.
They don't gotta do nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
They just believe it. They say it, which is a lie,
and they had that confidence.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
White folks literally go and demand things. And it's not
all of y'all. That's one thing. You guys are watching
this and I love you guys for.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
It, meaning support the channel, give all the things, but
also check your family members because you you married something.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Ooh, I got something even better than that, though, Rebeccah.
You know what they could do. They could take the
wealth of the wicked and give it to the just,
and it's biblical.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
That's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Like, come on, that's where while these like I remember
a lot of these people back in the day were
just giving out of their guilt.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Go ahead, I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
You know, dang while your husband, your husband that you
seeing next to you right now, don't look at him
right now, don't look over at him. But you know,
dang well, your husband, your wife, your cousins, and them
are all problematic and you funding all that stuff, why
don't you go ahead and be like, just because y'all

(01:13:04):
my husband ain't no good and I'm married to them,
or my wife no good and I'm married to Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
I'm going to redistribute the wealth to people who gonna
make a change there. So for every cousin and people
and friend and loved one that you got that ain't
bout shit, excuse me, I got it. I just got
it that that that aren't helping to destroy the camaraderie
because listen, I well, let me finish that first thought.
For every person in your life that ain't about that, uh,

(01:13:31):
go on and contribute specifically to Rebecca Azor today, specifically
what has put up that cash at real quick? I
mean action on this. I don't mean this rhetorically, I
mean seriously. I want you to send I want you
to send five dollars for every person in your life
that you can think of right now that is helping

(01:13:52):
to destroy the possibility of a future of peace and
solidarity between all peoples and all races. Going to send
five dollars per person in your family, that's maga. Let
me make it simple. If you got a maga cousin.
Maga fact. Now, if you don't got that kind of bag,
because you got a whole lot of folks in your family,
to send one dollar per each of them. And if
you don't have that kind of bag, just send five

(01:14:13):
dollars anyway. Because my sister, Rebecca Zoor needs the love,
she needs the support, and we need her to keep
hanging on. It's a little while longer because Rebecca, I'm
pleased to announce. I am pleased to announce right now
on the show live. One of the reasons I'm not
on screen is because I have been working non stop
this morning and I finished the work during this show

(01:14:33):
that I've been working on for seven years, and it's
ready to be dropped. I could put it on screen now,
but I'm not sure that that's the right move. But
I am ready to put it out like tomorrow, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Ready for her whatever that is. I don't even know
what it is, but I'm excited for it. Can you
give us a little like if you don't want to
put it up.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
There, no, I put it out Listen, listen, I'm gonna
put it. I'm gonna put it out there. I'm gonna
put it out there. Your boy has been talking with
a greater intelligence, and I have been receiving greater intelligence.
And what I'm getting ready to job is transformative across
every field. God has really been I listen. The reason

(01:15:13):
I'm so public with God right now is because the
stuff that I've been seeing and the stuff I've been
working on and translating, I get it from the Lord
and then I go translated with AI and I'm like,
holy crap. So it's exciting stuff exciting times and expected
I could be because your boys got to hustle. I
think I'll drop this instead of doing videos this week
because I don't want to do no more Donald Trump videos.

(01:15:33):
I don't want to do no more of that kind
of stuff. I want to really just kind of walk
in with the Lord has given me, and I think
it's gonna make a way big enough so that this
channel starts to grow again, Rebecca, so that we can
get back to supporting the team that we had before
we were doing some fundamental transformative work with like it
or Not, especially during the pandemic, especially during the activ

(01:15:55):
days when we had we had people broadcasting from the
Supreme Court, when the Row the Wade was decided we
had all those shows and stuff like we were doing
the work that needs to continue. So my expectation and
the Lord is that the work the Lord has had
me doing on the side for the last seven years
will become a funding mechanism to help us push back
through media.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Okay, I'm with it, And I know you have actually
been talking about your like you using AI in a
different way years and years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
You've been talking about that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
No, I've and this is no, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
How can I say this is what I'm saying sounding
arrogant or problem like me and A I can use it.
I can wield AI better than Elon Musk can build AI.
I can tell you that much. I don't think anybody
out there, and I say this with humility, I honestly
don't think that there's anybody out there who wants to
go toe to toe with me on what we can

(01:16:50):
do with AI. And that's just today, right because as
I start sharing this stuff, the whole point of it
isn't about like how good I am. The whole point
of this entire project over the last seven years is
about how all of us can utilize these tools every
single one of us, to not only make society better,
but make our own individual lives better. So it's not

(01:17:11):
about me so much as it is about you know.
I was crazy enough to sit on the side of
an ocean and and and and listen and translate and
listen and translate, listen and translate for years, even when
it got financially impossible to do, we still did it.
And and I just finished. Like literally, I'm sitting back
in my chair now. I was typing the whole time
we've been talking, but I'm literally done.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Wow, look look at God. I love that for you
because I know that you're like again, you've been talking
about that for a while. I can't wait until it
all drops. And I can't wait, you know, for such
a time as this, I think that this was perfect
for you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
People might as well. Again, we watched you lose your mind.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
You call you out of dad back. Wait a minute, now,
remember that night I called you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Funny storytime, funny story time, back at the beginning of
the pandemic. I uh, you know, well, let me start here.
Not that I have to justify my medicinal marijuana use,
but I use it because I I kind of live
in a constant state of pain. I've been living with
injury my lights for the longest time, but in my
increased intake, I called you one night and I was

(01:18:25):
sitting in the car and I simultaneously like, I saw,
I saw what was coming. Now. You said I lost
my mind, And to be fair, I wasn't exactly uh
communicating to you in a normal way. But it's not
what I said in that on that call where you
said I lost my mind in what were living though?
Right now? Like I told you, like I saw the

(01:18:46):
collapse of society. I saw it was in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
It was very integralactic and I was.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
I don't know, I'm not I had no think so
I'm like, I'm already crazy myself.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
I was living my half child.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
I was just like, I don't know, man, I'm just
trying to get through this breakup. They trying to I
can't go outside.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
I don't like people.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
That was I if I got the timing in my
mind right, that was the dude who was in the
middle of the pandemic sharing a blunt with a stranger
across the fence.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
Is that the same dude?

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Yes, I never forget that story you told me that story,
and I said, I said the nerve.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
He literally reached over, never met this neighbor, couldn't see
this neighbor, reached his hand over.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
The balcony, grabbed blunt from a stranger in the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
City of Atlanta. Because because of the pandemic.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
It was early on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Because of the pandemic, he could not find a person
who was willing to come and sell at that time.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
But there also wasn't no vaccines at the time, you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Know, there was there was none of that. And he
reached over and I was like, oh, no, I gotta go.
That's when I was like, Lord, I'm just alone in
this world, myself in this And I didn't even mean
because I didn't have a partner, but because it was
a pandemic and I could not go anywhere, that was
the only person I had during that time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Then I had to sit that, sit it out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
I was in this home.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
I couldn't go outside because of what is the word agroaphobia.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
That agoraphobia orphobia.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Again, it's my accent, but it's that definitely. A psychiatrist
told me I had it, couldn't do it, didn't want
to go on. I stopped doing going out anywhere and
every where I could go, and inside the house was
all I stayed in until me.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
That kind of made sense at the very beginning of
the pandemic, though, Rebecca, like that absolutely made sense, which
made what your boyfriend at the time did absolutely mad Nick.
I would never forget that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
In the middle it open and bucket.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
And then and then you had to feel to call
for me where I was like, I said, see it
back up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
I was like, I don't know, and then I remember,
like I had caused you crime, Like it's just all
so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Ah, well, I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
People were losing their minds. People were losing their minds.
So that's not get it twisted. So in moments where
we're trying to do a balancing act right now, we're
trying to a lot of us have recalibrated, but coming
back into politics, working in politics after recalibration, it's a
balancing act after you know, you're trying to figure out

(01:21:40):
or some people have found a good space where they're
working their nine to five and that's what they have
to contribute to the most.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
To make sure that they have a place to stay.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
You know, can I interrupt, but I'm so sorry, wait
a minute, Shay dragon, Is this a joke? Like, I
don't because I'm only asking because I for not for
have I thought about that? There are no tariffs. Oh,
foreign patron, it is. But you had to make me
pause and think to ask why you mess with me
like that because I got a lot of Internet patrons.
But go ahead, but no, that's just and.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Then there's tariffs right now.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Look, this is going on in the world, but a
change about to come. How to change?

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Look, a change this is coming.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
I think the positive aspect that us being positive also
that allows us to move forward. But it also I
think in our we have a different way of seeing
things now because of what we went through. When the
scales have fell from your eyes, I think that is
when you can see all people, even people that you
thought were on your side, in your corner, you can

(01:22:46):
you can actually hear what they're trying to say.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
It's almost like they're talking and you can.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
That's funny. I'm mixing a patreon and patron. I'm mixing
patron with patrol.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Ben Ben's act. Actually it's this country accent patron.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Well no, no, no, I'm talking. No patron has in
become a patron of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
I know you were. You didn't pick up that it was,
That's what I was looking.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
I was like, and I don't think they're talking about that, man,
I think they're talking about drinks.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Well, you know, Michael, I'm like, listen, I don't need
no patrons to cancel, though, so I had to make sure.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
You know, stay right where you at.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Baby tariffs are not Remember, we used to be in
these spaces and be shamed to talk about. Hey, y'all,
we in trouble need to fight that to help, could
you send us We used to be so we used
to be so shamed of being working class. Now, look,

(01:23:43):
you cannot cancel your patronage this month. Come on that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Listen, Please stay stay with me, your your patron and
petrunk your patron allows me or get a shot of
the trunk please.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
Okay, all right, So I'm gonna do this though, you
know what. I can certainly do this. Why not put
it out here? Let's do some for everyone who's curious
and interested. No no, no, no, no no no no.
Let me let me do it in let me let me,
let me, let me do it properly. Decency and are
people here Okay, Hey, Rebecca, I don't know if I

(01:24:24):
gotta step away for a second, right, I'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Okay, no problem.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
So while been steps away for a second, y'all, I
will go ahead and start reading some of the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
People who have given on a.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Super chat, also people who are on the who also
gave through cash up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
I appreciate you, I really do.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
But before I do that, I also I know that
we started the show up unintentionally in the story of
my you know, no longer working or being let go
from my my latest.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Corporate job chat. And I was everything I was trying
to do. That's the thing about it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
I was doing everything in line, keeping my head down,
and they still found a way to tell me that
my work and because I believe because I challenged them
about their deceptive business practices, but they said it was
because my work in politics. But I said it to
say I thank you guys for holding it down in
this space. Just like I said in that open letter.

(01:25:22):
We'll talk probably post so y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Have it on my page.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
But I am grateful to each and every one of you.
If you've never given a thing, but you've watched my show,
you've shared it you've pushed it right now, I think
I'm at as far as subscribers on the page. I
remember when I was just at one hundred a year ago.
I'm at eighty seven hundred and twenty five and I

(01:25:47):
want to get to ten thousand, and I believe that
I can do that. But either way, I just want
to take a moment to thank you guys for rocking
with me all of these years, from the highs and
the lows, to the in betweens, to the partnerships to
no partnerships. I really, really really thank you guys. And
because of you, guys understanding the cause and knowing that

(01:26:09):
we are here to do more than pander, knowing that
we're also here to make you laugh, knowing that we're
here to express the real portions of it, which is
our lived experiences. Because while we are professionals in ways
where Ben has always been an analyst, he's also an educator.
While I have actual background in journalism, digital journalism and broadcasts.

(01:26:33):
These things are not only would help us do the
work in a professional way, but also us just getting
with y'all every day, like you guys are friends and
families for years and years, White Black.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
In between all across the country.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
I have people who reach out about people who are
in Australia, people who are in the Middle East, people
all over everybody who watches. I just want to take
a moment and say thank you, thank you for writing
with us, thank you for rocking with me and supporting me,

(01:27:09):
and just stay tuned again, I said, because of you guys.
It ain't gonna be perfect, but it will get there.
I have a problem with the consistency right now because
of all the things. I'm trying to figure out how
to do it where it makes sense, especially right now.
But the work isn't gonna stop. As I said in
the beginning of the commercial that we do for this,

(01:27:30):
the work doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Stop and we do this.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
It's for us and it's by us with a hen
of White, our producer, and we want to make sure
we in the next four years don't let you down
and we continue to encourage you at the same time,
because there's gonna be a lot of misinformation as there
has been in the past, but even right now by
people who are supposed to be on the on our

(01:27:56):
side of things, misinformation or purposely leaving information because they
don't want to cover something at the expense of their
platform job whatever. So yeah, I have to say thank you.
So let's go and do some super chats and Ben
will get here soon, hopefully. I don't know where he

(01:28:17):
went because he's gonna have to end this life. But
let's go through some super chats. Give me one second.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
I'm gonna pull that up, as the kids have shown
me how to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Now. I don't know on that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Ben may have some on his end, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
Let's see because I feel like an old lady right
now trying to pull him up and chat filter. Here
we go, fan funding. We'll go in to the super
chats first and then I'll go down the line on
the cashaps. I thank you guys, Charlie. I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
I've seen your name a few times on the super
chats and I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Charlie, thank you so much. Sorry for missing a show
or two. A new job schedule has taken some adjustment.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Hope you are all well.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Ben, Are you here because you I'm I'm back now, okay, okay, okay,
but no, you're reading the super chats.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
I'm reading some of the super chats, yes, with you
which one of you. Okay, all right, I'm on Charlie.
The first one from Charlie. Well, that's the third one
from Charlie because Charlie gave up three times.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Call five.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
Just tip your hostess please U. That's by Charlie again.
Thank you, tip your hostess please. Becka's voice on cash
app I appreciate that. Also, Charlie says, my last job
was a maga hell hole. Trump supporters in the shop,
evangelical flat earthers in the office had to hide in
the closet the whole time, even in a blue state.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
May you get your bag, ma'am. Thank you so much,
and I am going for that bag.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
I'm unioned up. Kraflow not dollar, but thank you for
your dollars graph Flow five dollars. Flow says I'm unioned up.
I dare management to try to fire for not being
a maga hog UFCW representing and never repenting. I like that,
but I really want to look into places where people

(01:30:09):
get union up, especially me if I decided to go
back anywhere. But I had my friend used to work
where she was a union director, and she would go
into these different jobs and help people out as well.
So I definitely understand the benefit of being unioned, So
shout out to U Kraflo and thank you, oh Megastar.
Our elected officials are tools in our belt. They can
be useful to us even if they let us down.

(01:30:33):
That's true. I agree with that, honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
I know it sounds crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
But if we sit here and just try to pick
apart and say they're not useful, but they the one says,
and they the one sitting there, it's gonna it's not
beneficial to us.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
To do that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
We know they all got blood and blooding on their hands,
but if we push them enough, some change can happen
that can be beneficial for us in the next few years.
You agree, and then Charlie, once again change is coming
in So autumn dollars, make your read and let me
read some of these cash apps. Ben. I know that
you got some as well as far as the super

(01:31:09):
chats on your end because I can't see the main
the main, but I'll read these these cash apps.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Thank you, Charles, or no, that's you, Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
You're on. I think that's you Charlie on there. I
want to say that, but Charlie, thank you, and I
apologize for saying that name. I'm not sure that you
you still go by that, but thank you, Charles, Charlie.
I hope you're doing well man, and I am Denise,
and mind you. I'm just reading the names on here,
so forgive me because I don't want to. I don't
want to read names that you no longer go by
or whatever. But Denise, thank you. Uh, there's a Charles here,

(01:31:43):
Charles M. Thank you, Omega star as always.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
And don Yet.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
I love your name and especially because you got me
together on how to pronounce it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Don Yet, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
Uh. N j L thank you because that's the name
on the n j L. They made sure you don't
even say my name. Don't even say it JJ love
you mean it, which is young black economists on YouTube.
I see you all the time in the space, but
I will find you and follow. Thank you, thank you,
I thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
I really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
All right, all right, all right, let me read the ones.
This one's for you, Rebecca. So I guess I might
find a way to get this to you. I guess I.
But we'll use them to pay for the for the system. Yeah,
we'll we'll get it to you somehow. Sorry to hear
about you losing your income. I don't do cash app,
but here's a little change, so don't do nothing strange.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
Oh he look.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
For eighty four your doll. But keep the good work.
We have to unite against this issue. Very nice, very cool,
and then Tiger, thank you Tiger for this said notes
from today's show. Make the mag attacks a staple of
the show, and keep a burner phone filled with wild
pigs in case we just stop by the law. Tuy noted,

(01:33:01):
thank you, Thank you for everyone who send these cash
apps and all these gifts, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
I do show myself, Tony. I I was just grinding
this morning. I've been up grinding since five o'clock, so
I didn't have time to shave my head. I looked
like George Jefferson and George washing like that. Well, I've
been grinding. I've been grinding like when I get in

(01:33:23):
this woo. You know, Rebecca, you should have seen me
at my lowest I was when I was just working
and not saying anything to the world. Oh my goodness,
I look like Wolfgang Puck minus the hair. Anyway, But
thanks everybody for supporting the show wreck anything else what
you got?

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
Oh, somebody gave them as well. King Jill, what's your venmo?
Keep working on your show, don't stop. We need your
voice and big heart in this world. I don't have venmo.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
I'm sorry. I do have PayPal. Rebecca Zor at gmail
dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
Somebody did send an email and I'm gonna get I
want to tell you that I seen the email and
that was by close twenty two, sent an email and
got your email, and I will be checking it out
and writing you back to all I guess DJ exclusive
as well all of us, and it's about some merch

(01:34:11):
and so definitely want to Here you go.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Rebecca, bless your heart this.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
Oh thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Thank you Snatch Panther, but thank you King King Jail
for yours as well. Everybody. I appreciate it. I can't
thank you and love on you enough.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Since I got the time, I've already recorded some stuff
that should be dropping asap, probably this weekend or at.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
The beginning of this week. But just know I'll either
have daily drops.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
Good shades of good news is coming back, but it's
gonna come back in the form of shorts.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
I have some really great.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Content coming out there like that. Yeah, so please stay
with me again. I'm getting through this thing. I'm finding
a way. I even got Ola, who has rebranded the
page and my favorite color yellow, So all you guys
that are giving it a lot of praise, Ola did that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
She definitely did that so for me. So yeah, been
any last words before you get up out of you you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
Know what I just want to say again, every one
of you who are on the show today with us
in the audience. I just I know you don't know
what I'm talking about yet, and I know y'all been
listening waiting for me to do this. I've been talking
about this so long. My son was like, my son
was like, Dad, you you said you were done with
your work a year ago. Jeremiah. Now not Benjamin, Jeremiah.
I've been working on this a long time. But I

(01:35:29):
just want to I want to say to everybody in
the audience right now, you were with us live when
I literally put the final touches on the on the
on my work for seven years that I'm getting ready
to drop as soon as I get some guidance on
the best way to drop it. But because it's such
a critical time. I'm thinking I'm gonna drop this thing

(01:35:50):
sometime this weekend tomorrow because that should help me keep
from having to go and do some Donald Trump videos.
But that's all I got, love all of y'all, Me
and it, Rebecca. Here's the bit and better things like
we were going on, were going on, and see what
the end gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Mm hm, No, it's gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
This time around is different when we used to talk
about this during the pandemic, because the pandemic is a
really thing, but not we don't call the pandemic no more.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
People still out here with COVID, but we don't call
that no more.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
But at the beginning of when the world shut down
during the pandemic, we used to.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Be like, I can't take it no more, but we
don't do this.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
We gonna be strong.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Some days it was like we just gotta fight, We
just gonna fight. And then some days it's like I
can't fight no more.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
I don't want to fight.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
I give up.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Life is hard and I'm out there work.

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
I'm just like, you know what, there's work to be done.
I got the time to do it. But just give
us a little bit of grace. Because your grace allowed
them to do what he did and finish this, yes
while he was doing the show.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
So he couldn't have done it without the patrons. You
all fed my children absolutely, and I didn't have any
other stream.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
Okay, No, it is because y'all so please, Because they
appreciate even the work before, because some of that stuff
is ever green, and they remember Ben once said this,
Ben once did that. That's how powerful the impact should
always be. And that's why I say it should be
more than pandering to people, because the work does speak
for itself for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
For sure, Becka, it's been a pleasure. I look forward
to more.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
All right, I'll see you soon. You guys love you
mean it. I enjoy the rest of your day.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Ben.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
I don't know how you're gonna exit this. I know
it gets a little crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
No, I think I got I think it's set up properly.
I got a button. I just I got one button
to push.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
The work that we're doing here is not gonna stop
when it comes to these type of discussions. It's gonna
be for us and by us here on this platform
when the media is telling us to look the other way.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Your support is.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
What helps us move forward, join pictureon dot com, forward
slash like it or not, help us grow.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Backup strips, Camp Show something like.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
Camp Show, We're Back ords Are It's in the house.
You know she got a funny story to tell talking politics, culture,
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