5/28/25 | Rewriting History | The Fake South African Genocide | Building Alliances - Like It Or Not with Rebecca Azor

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Speaker 1 (00:56):
Good morning, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Good morning, and welcome to like it or not what
we're free to tell the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I care who doesn't like it?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Good morning, pastor Ben.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
You ain't see that I was telling you go ahead
and roll David's commercial if you had it.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh that other you know, I don't think I have
that one, and you know what I should have it
because I'm a part of the team making it work.
You need me to go and find it.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
No, no, no, I just want to make sure you
know it wasn't me.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh, you know it wasn't her, David, you know me.
I'm not here producing on the fly, you know, in
the chat rooms, go to see everybody, good, to see everything.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
I know it's been a little second since we've you know,
joined together for the good.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
It does feel like it's been a while, right, No, it.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Has actually because last week I don't think I did anything.
I don't think I did anything on my own. I
don't think I did any streams. I wasn't on the
leftist mafia. I was supposed to be fell asleep thisin
is I'm always falling asleep. Also, because my nephew graduated
last week, I just feel like I haven't had much
time to me. But nephew graduated last week, brother I

(02:11):
came down, so we got to do some family stuff,
and I had like, went to a dinner somebody planned
for my birthday that I don't know why that stuff
makes me tired.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I was, I don't know why, you know, I just wanted.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
To be home and I just feel like I've just
been too tired. My sister's birthday was also her birthday
is seven days after mine, exactly a week after mine,
my older sister, So then there was that as well,
and I will, I will, and so that's pretty much

(02:47):
what it was.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I just feel like I've just been on the go.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
I'm just so kind of mentally, physically, spirit I'm tired.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I I know, y'all get my.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Voice, Yes, said that your poor woman's voice is tired.
She needs a hug.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I know y'all hear it.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
And I hate that for me because you know, naturally
I have a raspy voice.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
But your girl been struggling. I've been struggling.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
I guess uh this year, Like I don't I don't
try to feel distress what my body does. So what's
been happening is I've been going horse most of the
year when I'm overwhelmed and stuff, I just been going horse.
And is this what happens when you're thirty five and
bless you know that that's that's that's the thing. But

(03:36):
that's been happening for me. What's going on with the
green screen?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
I'm trying to get it tired. I don't know why
I'm doing all this stuff around up making half of
my face disappear.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
But nobody's seen it until you did it, until you
try to mess with it.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Nobody see it clear. Yeah, good morning to everybody again.
Oh thanks, here's a birthday present from not Lows.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Oh thank you, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Look, your girl's thirty five, y'all. I'm in thirty five
for what ten days?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Angela Bassett House said, it's hard out here for a pimp.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
It is, it is, actually it is. And I also
went to this weekend. It's just getting out the house
is tiring for me. I went to the Atlanta Jazz Festival.
That's me, Tiger. I'm literally so exhausted, exhausted, trying to
figure out my life as far as you know, what

(04:27):
to do to keep everything going financially and all the things.
Do I need to search for a nine to five
that pays sixteen dollars an hour? Or do I need
to just put my put my all into continuing this
work that may not pay at.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
All, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Or you know, do I go home checking with my
mom for her surgery she's having another one, or do
it's just I'm.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Tired I'm tired, man.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Well here we have immigration.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Stuff is crazy. Fam you what's going on over there
at my school?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
We are tired. I'm tired. I'm just every issue you
can think about.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Why were this morning?

Speaker 4 (05:22):
No, I can't even do that because I'm sleeping in
my dreams. I'm running from everything.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm tired, I feel. But life is going on and
stuff's going on. We got to talk about it. We gotta.
It's true and kind of short of we gotta kind
of gotta let people folks know that we're still here.
We might not be but we're here. Yeah, And when
the time comes, we're gonna be here regularly. But right now,

(05:48):
this is the pop up edition, the pop up season.
How long have we been in the pop up season?
Which I don't mind like, I actually like doing it
me too.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
We've been in the pop up season about most of
the year. Now we're doing Saturdays mostly and then we
have our Wednesdays usually we're trying to add that in
either a Wednesday or a random day of the week.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
So well, we can do it most of all. But
I like it too.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
I think that it's giving them two shows a week, okay,
and I'm with it.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Other than that, what's.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Been going on with you before we get to some news,
So there's a lot for us to get to.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, No, I'm just you know, me, just always working
on a project here and there and just getting ready
to drop out. That's why we were supposed to go
at ten thirty then ten forty five. But it was
on me today. It was on me today, out every day,
it's on me own, I own today. So I'm just
wrapping up some work and ready to read some stuff.
It's just, you know what we're backing like before, not
even really going into any details about the study and

(06:49):
about to drop We just really and I know you
know this, another audience knows this, but I think we
have to kind of tell ourselves and remind ourselves of
this that we're not living during a normal time like
we're living during a time where these folks are really
hyping themselves up into fascism and violence and the destruction

(07:12):
of not only democracy, but the destruction of the planet
and just the destruction of education and public health. And
they're so thorough with that. Recovered it last week, how
they reached all the way down into Famu and vieues
and they're destroying education. And I don't know if you
heard this. Part of what's going on at FAMU is
that they're trying to sell off yes, pharmacy department, oh yeah,

(07:35):
to Florida State.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
So they've been trying to do this since I have
went there, not the pharmacy department, because we had just
gotten it was fresh. Our pharmacy school was really fresh
when I got there, And so when I first got there,
they wanted to sell off our law school, our SJGC,
and our business over to FSU. They wanted to put
their name on it and say that that was their school.

(07:59):
Yet this is thing that we grew. We put together
every our law school, are our business, and our s
j g C. They wanted to take the schools and
put them as attached them to f s U. And
we thought that the students fought that. We were fighting
since then and they decided not to do the merger

(08:20):
because we ended up getting a what president that said
hell no.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Right, So now miss miss uh.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Okay, you know, miss Marvel, Larva Larva, Marva Okay, Marvel,
she wants to come in and or not she wants
to She's she's the talking, she's the the face for
Rhonda Santa.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
She's the face for the right.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
She's the face of the people who say that we
especially in Florida, that we should not be teaching black history,
anything black, to remove it from universities, which has already
been done. But the attacks on an HBCU literally historical
Black colleges and universities.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Are we not.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Supposed to teach blackness there? Are we not supposed to
highlight blackness there? The schools itself are because FSU said
hell no to us, so you do.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
We said hell yeah, and we began to build.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
That's why they call it Agriculture and Mechanical University. Everything
on that campus was built by the hands of those
who couldn't go over to across the train tracks to
FSU because they said whites only. So the bare hands
of the people who did agriculture on the university who
built it all the.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Land, killed rattlesnakes.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
As they continue to build up the land, put together
construction on their own to build these schools, FAMC became
fam you and they want to take away our legacy
and tell us off for cheap.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
We've been fighting FSU for decades.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
They've been having to send day white kids over to
our campus for school.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
You know that's the and that that's the recurring pattern.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
Right.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
So so one of the things in the study I'm
getting ready to drop hopefully today or tomorrow, is the
recurring patterns. What they do throughout history, they co opt,
They just go. They they first, we innovate black people,
specifically black people. We innovate, we create, we revolutionize, we
bring all types of new ideas. You got to I

(10:38):
know you haven't heard about it yet, but doctor Mac
gave me access to his three hundred and sixty six
day calendar of STEM Black Contributions and STEM Science, Technology, Engineering,
and Mathematics. And when I was going through that calendar,
I was like, oh my goodness, I had no idea
black folks were that critical to every technology that we enjoy,

(11:00):
from cell phones to computers. Black folks have been integral, intricate, Yes,
in making it a reality. And what they do they
take the innovation, they erased the black name and they
put a white face on it. Yes, and then we
completely forget there's a whole generation that's born that never

(11:21):
knew that black folks made these kind of contributions. That's
exactly what they're doing. A family.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
They want to erase it, just like they did when
they went on to what was it the historical site
where they removed the information about Harriet Tubman and then
wanted to say about the underground railroad and then wanted
to say that they Harriet worked hand in hand.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
And I get it.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
There were abolitionists to who were there with us, who were,
you know, helping people to get to one place to another.
But also they had to stay in hiding to protect
their families and stuff like that. So it's it ain't
that there was thousands of them. It's the trickled in people.
But the majority still were the black folks and the
black women that did we need to be none, but

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they wanted to.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
They want to change history. Revisionists, that's what they are.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
They want to do that so that people can forget
or say that white people were a part of And
while that may be true, we know there was sewer three, right,
it was Sewer three, And I'm not saying that's an
exact number, but I'm saying, if we're talking about the
scope of it, you have to understand that black folks
had to get it out the mud how they say

(12:29):
it today, the kids say they came from the trenches.
They literally ran from guns, hound dogs, were walking through swamps,
sleeping wherever. I'm pretty sure you and yourself cannot imagine
doing that today because the stress, the stress of life
for us takes us down. And these people were willing

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to risk it all to go to freedom. And the
people risked it all to build up these universities. The
people risk it all to build the security that they
used today. It was a black woman who helped put
that together, her husband.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
You do security cameras, all of that, the whole technology
comes from a black woman.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
And see, and these are the things that we just
wouldn't know, because that's the point if they can erase
all of And I see somebody in the chat room
talking about black fatigue. Right, that's a whole other thing
that they've coopted recently. Right. Black fatigue was actually an
academic work in a book by a black womanis scholar
who was expressing the fatigue that black people have in

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these systems where we regularly have to fight, we don't
have moments of rest. And then what did these good
white Christian devils do? They co opted it and now
they're using it as a way to foment violence against us,
Like this is really a core my study. Like the
language that's being used right now is genocidal language against
black people, and black fatigue is one of those things.

(13:58):
But how do you accomplish it? Exactly actly what you
just said, Rebecca. They can't do it unless they erase
all of the contributions of black people and then only
make us look like whatever they want to make us
look like. Never mind the fact that we can find
thousands of videos every day of white people in the
streets fighting each other like rabid animals. They focus on

(14:18):
videos they find the black people fighting, and so they
spread that and now they're like, oh, we're so tired
of black folks. Oh we're so fatigued with black folks,
so that they can move to that place where they
cannot only erase our history, but they can erase us
as a people.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah, nobody. So even a lot as we're going, we're hearing,
we're seeing, we're witnessing, we're experiencing a lot of how
the revision is history and what they're trying to do,
especially in this administration, is actually affecting us. I even

(14:53):
saw I talked about Harriet Tubman, and then there's we
were seeing how they're stepping into the military and trying
to find way to remove black men from the military.
They took away Jackie Robinson's history from the military website.
Why you asked, I think we talked about this before

(15:13):
on the show. Why because what he has to do
with military history. That's because he was actually somebody who served,
and he refused before Rosave Arcs actually to sit in
the bag on you know, one of the military buses
or transportation, and they got upset and they challenged him

(15:34):
and they took it to court. And when they took
it to court, they basically, I think, what is that
called marshall something him where they court marshaled him, yes,
after the words, and they made sure that he was
the one who was made an example of where although

(15:59):
he basically kind of won and was told to go
back and serve, each time he would come out, they
made it tough for him, hard for him, difficult for him.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
So he had to.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Leave and they wanted to They took his history off
of the military site, and everybody was like, what didn't
know about it, but the people who did know went
to go make sure it was.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Still there when it wasn't there.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
They were like, oh, you want to remove this information
that highlights the racism within the military and then go
into today because all this is happening at once weeks
after each other.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Right, this was back in March, this story.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Broke and along with what they're doing right now, they're
trying to get black men out of the military, So
they took that off the site while they're trying to
do this whole racist removal of black men in the
military and the way that they want to go about it.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
We talked about this as well. Is the razor bumps? Right?

Speaker 4 (16:58):
They want to say that the razor bumps are the
reason that black curve, So it's this whole idea. They
made sure that when they came out with that story
that nobody would go and do their research about how
they've always been trying to find ways to remove black
people from the military.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
So any way that we've.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Served and we've done great things, and again we the
the the six Triple eight Thank You to Tyler Perry
was actually a really good story, a very good film,
a very good uh documentary style film where it shows
we never heard of these ladies, but they were the
ones that were responsible for bringing up the morale.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Why because all the all.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Of these letters that were being backed up that they
gave them, what was it six months to do? They
did it in less time. They were put into a
cold Uh. They were the lodge and this cold old
dormitory and with no ace, with no heat and no nothing.
These are women and they made it do what it do.

(18:00):
They created a hair salon, They did all the things
from nothing. But they don't ever want to talk about
how black people kept things moving and running, whether it
was in military like you said, women in stem, men
in stem. Black people are the reason why so many
things are working, especially within this nation in America and
here we are. Donald Trump wants to do all this

(18:21):
revisionist history to make it seem like white people were good,
White people were part of White people weren't always and
that's something I'm not going to let that be the
situation or the case.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
It can't be.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, And this is the the absurdity of this moment,
right because we can see very transparently how completely and
utterly incompetent and just downright stupid maga whites are maga
blacks too. But just you know, since we're talking about
the racial component. They're trying to erase the contributions of blackness,

(19:00):
while Donald Trump's administration is extremely white and it's extremely incompetent.
It's hilarious. If it would be insulting, it is insulting,
but it's also kind of like pathetically hilarious because they
are the very definition of a sub performing, sub mediocre
group of individuals, and yet they have been able to

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promote themselves as the standard. Case in point, Pete hexsais
Secretary of Defense, the most unqualified Secretary of Defense in
the history of our entire nation, and yet he's the
one who has the unmitigated gall to go through and
remove everyone black, call them dei hires, and insult the

(19:46):
contributions of blackness. When I'm like, wait a minute, bro,
you were barely He couldn't even get a full time
job at Fox News. He was a weekend anchor. Shout
out to the weekend anchors and local stations dogging you.
But Pete hec Seth was not qualified enough to get
a full time position at Fox News. And yet that
mediocre piece of public drunk was promoted to the very

(20:09):
top of the military. And now he has the power
to erase the contributions of black people in America's military.
Your mike is off, your mic is off.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
And the way I'm going in the way I was
going in the way I had a plank to make.
I said, that's step it. Let's take it a step further.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
We're talking about this current administration and how they are
hiring people who are not qualified, who are not experienced,
and putting them in place. But we were talking about military.
Let's take it to education. Linda McMahon, right, McMahon, I
don't know how to the white folks pronounce it, yeah McMahon,
back when they was the rest of the people and family,

(20:56):
you know. But because Linda is not qualified and for
those are wondering why mentioning wrestling, who's her husband again?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Vincumcmn Vince McMahon.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
That's to Linda is she is now heading the education
up for the United States. She's the education secretary, y'all,
the education secretary.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
And imagine the only.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Experience she has is I couldn't even give it to you, Ben,
I don't even know what experiences she has that makes
her what.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
She's none nothing literally nothing literally no experience. I mean
really let's go. And not to take you off for
what you're getting ready to say, but this is the
case with almost every person. Donald Trump. There was one
guy who got a point and I forgot his position,
but they call him on audio, and if somebody in
the audience can can recall his name, uh and put

(21:59):
a link or something. Just even if you get his name,
I can get the audio right on audio. He got
in a position. He was like, I don't even know
what this position does. I don't know what I'm supposed
to be doing here. That's the level of unqualified foolishness
we're dealing with. But yeah, Linda McMahon has zero qualifications, no, and.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
They're treating it like business. Right to me, there's no.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Tell me what the relationship is that this woman who
comes from or who supports anything that is anti DEI
and not that FAMU has to be the face of DEI.
But they've made it right because DEI is equal to
for visual purposes, for the right black anything black that

(22:45):
is the head of the DEI. Example, black black immigrant,
black education, black entertainers, black corporate leaders, black employees, black
disabled people, just black black inventors, black scientists, black doctors,
black lawyers. You were hired because you were black. We

(23:09):
picked you because you were black. The only reason why
you're successful is because you were a dei hier.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
You're black, nothing special about you, But we just had
to meet quota. So Linda McMahon, who subscribes to the ideology,
is now head of Education. So there's no even though
in the beginning they said that they were making room
for and funding HBCUs, we see that there is this
this this dismantling of core HBCU values and HBCU leadership

(23:41):
so that they can overtake it, excuse me, so that
they can come in, put in their white ideologies, put
in uh, their thinking, their removal of all of our
black history. Because us talking about our black history in
any of these spaces and education and and and and
employment and all this stuff, it's because it gives us

(24:04):
an opportunity to see ourselves beyond just being slaves. We
have people who were creating Uncle Nearest. I know that
that's you know, that's not even in the topic, but
it is in the topic because Jack Daniels is the
creator of the whiskey Uncle Nearest, that's the brand of

(24:24):
the new whiskey right from the black lady who decided
to push the brand. But I forget the first name
of the person, but the last name is nearest in Nearest,
and they're the ones that helped Jack Daniels learn how.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
To create whiskey.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Basically, the inventor of the formula that Jack Daniels created
for whiskey was not included, of course, the slave free person.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
And their name was never really attached.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
It's a and when they made the fuss about it,
then they included them now into the history. They said, no,
when to go deeper, because you were white, you got
the privilege off of my back, off of my off
of my inventions. So this woman went ahead and created
the Uncle Nearest brand to push the history that was forgotten,

(25:13):
the history that was overlooked on purpose, the history that
was removed or never added because they don't want any
They want to do what they've always done, and that
is to make white people the savior, make white people
the creator, make white people the thing, the only thing, Yeah,

(25:36):
the best thing, And that to me is where I think,
not I think, I know, we have to continue in the.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Space because.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
The more we hush about it, the issues that are
going to arise, even from a leftist point of view.
If it's white, it's not going to be anything that
associates itself with black people. And I'm not saying that
to be me, but I just know in the you know,
in the Left of Space. I'm in the Left of
Space on Thursday nights, and I love that they have
me there so that we can have nuanced conversations about everything.

(26:09):
I think it's important to have the black voice within
those spaces because I think when it's not there, the
conversations are very They are stuff that black people would
never know about, won't be affected by, will be affected by,
but not in a major way.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
It's just not on a major scale.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
I think right now, the people who are getting hit
the hardest besides just somebody being poor, somebody being without
health care, those are very important things. But every issue
that has been major has been black, whether it was immigrant.
We are getting hit the hardest. When we look at
the numbers, whether it's employment, it's us, whether it's housing

(26:55):
it's us, whether it's education.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Look what's happening, it's us. We can't afford to go.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
To all those schools that don't want to choose us,
our HBCUs make room for us, our HBCUs give opportunity
to the person that had a one point nine GPA
in high school.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
I've seen it.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
They let you, they put you on probation for your
first year, that's right. And I've seen people who came
on probation leave walk across that stage with a four
point zero, who have become a CEOs at companies, who
have become lead anchors on news channels, who have become
strong businessmen. I've seen it with my own eyes. Because fam,

(27:32):
you did that, bcc BCU did that right? Howard did that?
So I this attack it's you know, it started off
with the attack on immigrants. Well, start out to attack
on women's autonomy, women's body, right, then we go into

(27:53):
the attack on immigrants and me being Haitian and that
being the mirror. I'm tired sometime, tell y'all, they attacking
my people literally again.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Every one of your intersexes is getting hit, repecta.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Getting hit, and I'm tired. I woke up and I said,
family ain't gonna choose that lady. I closed my eyes
for two seconds. Same day, thirty minutes later, and they
chose that lady.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
I was appalled. I was like, not my school, not
my university. It couldn't be.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
And now we're gathering together and meetings trying to figure
out what we can do, how we're gonna do it,
because we gotta be If we are silent, if FAM
you is silent, If if alumni are silent, if people
who have power and you know who are alumni are silent,
it's not gonna go well. Because they're trying to make

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an example of what they can do at FAM, to
go down to Daytona and go ahead and do it
at BCU, to go back up to DC and go
ahead and do it at Howard, to go to Jacksonville
and do it at Edgar, to go all these places
they want to attack all of the Yeah, there's.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I was like, Edward, Edward Morris is I think now
now I'm questioning.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
In Jacksonville it's an HBC you dot there, we go,
we got Philo, we got all all the other HBC
users out there.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
You can be next. And I've said that. I know
I know that people think it.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Was just I just said it just like that in
my video about immigrants, I said you could be next.
And what happened five seconds later, white folks was out
here like, can I have smoke please?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
If you don't get your immigrant behind back, you know,
it was like that, you can be next. They're telling
white folks to self support if they don't like it.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
They're telling folks who are white adjacent and been here
for generation of gerations and generations. You look a little now,
you got a little Mexican in you. Let's see them papers.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Like the wait.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
What the funniest part about it, Rebecca, is that we
are being told this by people who've barely been here
three generations, barely like a lot of these white folks
who are who are mired and just deep in this racism.
They came over here like in the in the in
the fifties. Their parents can't grandparents. They were here because
of their grandparents, and they have the unmitigated caucassity to

(30:19):
turn out and tell black folks who have been here
since sixteen ninety that we gotta leave. Are immigrants who've
been here since longer than they were. You know, they
gotta leave. But you just got fresh off the boat.
Matter of fact, you still speak with an accent. Some
of you, I mean literally one of the biggest accounts
on Twitter right now is run by a lady who've

(30:39):
just moved here from Poland, and she's out here telling
black immigrants and brown immigrants that they got to leave.
I'm like, y'all, really, y'all got some nerves.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, it's funny you bring that up, because now we
got a whole how many of them came over from
the Afrikaans.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Fifty nine of.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Them, But they're trying to get like that, Yeah they are.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I think it's like there's trun like four thousand or
father whatever.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I think they're trying to go for like sixty thousand total.
But right now my number sixty people.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Sixty people, and these people have been I want to
look for you know, I know we're live right now, guys.
This is what I want to go and find the
video of the woman, the journalist who came in and
I think she was on news Nation and she was
speaking to the male.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Oh you're talking about that South Queen.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I need y'all to go, please go, please because please
yeah listen.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
I ain't on Twitter, but I do follow her on
the threads and I know it's only about five of
us on threads, but Queen, I am one of your followers.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I say this to say she she was tired. She's
all the way, She's all the way in South Africa.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
She came here carrying the weight of why y'all lying,
Eli Mustad what he ain't been back all? We ain't
seeing them hurt from them nothing, and y'all let him,
y'all letting him run the conversation here. I'm here to
clarify Si, y'all don't want to do research. I'm here
to give y'all the research. And what happened was the

(32:13):
host kept saying, so are you telling me that they're there?
It's not true that the white people, the white farmers,
aren't being attacked. She said, it's not true.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
So are you really saying that? She said, I'm saying
it ain't happening.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
What you want me to say? I'm speaking English. Y'all
focused on Elon Musk. The narrative that they're trying to
do right now is migrate these illegal aliens, these white illegals,
bring them here and tag them as refugees.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
No, no, no, no no, no.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Asylum seekers yes, okay, because refugees is too rough for them.
They're asylum seekers and we're gonna house them. We're gonna
give them money, We're going to give them insurance.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
We're gonna do that.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
The idea is to give us the false narratives that
we there's a genocide happening in South Africa. They have
been trying to roll with that narrative here in the
predominantly white nation of America. They in the USA that
there's a genocide happening of white people. But his story
shows us that there's there's so many things that want

(33:23):
to remove black people.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Recent bombers.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
I say recent because some of these things happen where
people are just getting turning sixty. Remember bombings in the
USA of prim predominantly black communities. Okay, so all of
these things that they're this idea of. If we can't
have this narrative here, let's start it where I'm from,
Elon Musk, where he's from. But the leader said, listen,

(33:48):
this is what I did. I said, I'm president. Now
we're gonna now take I'm the leader. Now we're gonna
now take all the black people who were removed because
of the colonization, overthrowing, the UH, the attacks on the black.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Communities here in South Africa. We're going to remove that.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
And all the black people who lost their jobs for
years and decades and this because of white folks who
came in and did that. We're gonna place you at
the front. We're gonna place you in the front of
the line, and we're gonna make sure that you get
your job back. We're gonna make sure that when you
get the training you need all of the above, because we.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Are going to bring this country back to what it.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Was, make America white again. You want to hear her,
but before we have, I can I just say something, Rebecca.
I absolutely love your audience. I love and I need
you to team up with my wife because you have
black women in your chat showing you love at like

(34:54):
at this level. I love it. We need more of it.
And I need you to bring my wife into that
joy because that's what she's looking for. She's looking for
that that black sisterhood that y'all got.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Absolutely and you know she's from film and yeah, I
got her.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Listen, listen, she's she's gonna be I'm going way off topic,
but i just keep reading y'all comments replying Rebecca, and
I'm like, oh, that's what my wife said. She's she's
gonna be preaching. She's gonna be pastoring while I'm on
the sabbatical this summer because I got to go out
here and cut out these white devils, and I don't
want to bring that to the forfeit. So I've asked
her to fill in. So we need uh y'all to

(35:29):
show up and support her. Also need you to send
that song that you were supposed to send.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Like, oh yeah, so you see, once.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
The tiredness gets out of my voice, that's what I
got an excuse today.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Once get out my voice.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yes, yes, okay, So I just had to. I just
I couldn't hold it anymore. I've been looking at all comments.
I'm looking at all the beautiful black women in your compensation.
I'm like, yeah, and here is one. This, this sister
right here, she read them for Phil. Let's let's listen
to to what you were talking about, Rebecca. Farmers are not.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
Being targeted or white farmers are not being killed. Why
are so many who have big landholds willing to give
up their entire lives to come to America.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Well, they show them to me.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
We had them lands et on people are not farmers.
The plaintive reports of South Africa that many of those
are not farmers.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Those are chances. Please again, showed me the evidence.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Those are people taking an opportunity America has given them,
are not farmers.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I'm just trying to figure this out.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
You're saying that your president has not in any way
targeted whites, even though Elon Musk, who was there, he
can't get a licensed for his business.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
He was aware in the Oval office. He was an
old officer's never been in South Africa.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
When was the last time, you know, mosc But he
can't get he can't give us the last time.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
His father, you know, my father came out when he
was there. I want to also maybe unders the accusation.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
The accusation is is that many whites cannot get licenses
to do business among them Elon Musk.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
So we're forced to undermine our transformative laws. We must
be okay with the South Africa, with the majority that
is denied of their own land, with their it is
deprived of access to economic transformations and means of production.
We must be okay and not move the needle in
any way to try and think if we must be
okay with South Africa being labeled the most unequal country
in the world and not trying to do anything to rectify.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
That, because that's what that arguments say. No, but the
fact that there are laws, that's the matter. Is the
must be paid for an individual. No, that is what
the question is.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
But if you make laws that target a certain race
but there are.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
None of those, where are those dealings?

Speaker 3 (37:26):
You're calling me as a journalist from South Africa and
you're putting those to me. I'm asking you for the
proof Donald Trump today, I'm sorry, I'm going to have
to let you a little bit. Donald Trump today, he
called us in there, so he's got proof of a genocide.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
So Africa has gone to the ICJ saying that they
believe to supports put evidence. We put evidence on the.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Tables or not proof of general side. A private monument
with fake crosses and not actual grave sites does not
proof of the genocide.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I don't believe that. I've been called and we had
to defend the infensible. Those things are the facts. Trump.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
You say that, you say that we obviously have the president,
Thank you very much, appreciate.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yeah, it sucks that it had to end that way,
but I'm glad that she got that out there. I
would never touch the little white man.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Hen.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
But they got to do that because they're on television.
She got a lot of respect. Now, I will say
there's a video, uh that that was going around that
Donald Trump is referring to where all the crosses were
lined up in an area in South Africa, and the
crosses you can see them going down, and he was
saying that those were the those are the lives of

(38:40):
white farmers that died because of genocide, white folks that died,
those were the graves for them. And Donald Trump, who
was the president of the United States, pushed this misinformation,
pushed this out there. And guess who didn't do research.
The man the show, The man that's the host of

(39:04):
the show. The right wing people who follow and breathe
and eat and poop and pee and feed themselves all
of Donald Trump' smith's information. They repost it, they retweet it,
they teach it to their kids. This is what when
they remove black history, black ideology, black anything in schools.

(39:33):
What the host is saying is going to be what
replaces it. What Donald Trump is saying is going to
be what replaces it. That misinformation and imagery and videos,
and that's going to be what replaces it in history books.
So when they're crying out, don't we need to remove
the dei that means anything black, anything hispanic, that highlights

(39:58):
white people in a bad light for them, that makes
them anything less than a savior. So what was taught
to us about Thanksgiving? Loved the holiday as far as
I can be with my people, But what's behind it?
Where it came from?

Speaker 2 (40:15):
History of it?

Speaker 4 (40:16):
They taught it to us and basically said they joined
hands with the indigenous people, and that is not what happened.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
So the revisionist history is dangerous because it teaches us
that white folks our saviors.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
And in this right here, they want to create this
idea so that fifty years down the line, when this
thing meets history books, Donald Trump saved white people who
were from genocide. Forty nine White folks who were farmers
came over here because of something that's happening. They're taking
away their jobs, they are removing any resources for them,

(41:01):
and there's a genocide happening for them.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
That will be in the history books because Donald Trump
said it. It's control.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
And what happens is we get looked at again as
bad or as people who need to be grateful and
thankful for the chance that Donald Trump has given us.
He saved TikTok, when the truth is he's the one
that created the band right. He saved healthcare when he's

(41:30):
the one that's the reason why your mama can't get
her diabetes medicine, why you can't get a new wheelchair,
you can't go get a simple teeth cleaning. And he
saved education. Actually they're just moving. They want to move
your loans and make it function as the business loans.

(41:51):
They want people from small business to take over your
education loans. It ain't that he's removing it, it ain't
that he's helping you with it. They just moving it
on over and saying education is a business man. He
saved housing. Why you ain't able to live in and
buy your own house today. He saved groceries. Baby, every

(42:16):
time you walk into the grocery store, you come out
with one bag. You can't even afford to bop your
whole household groceries. And the eggs that you complained about
that was nine dollars when you was complaining is fifteen
dollars today. Let's be for real, this revisionist history is

(42:37):
going to be definitely dangerous, and they trying to revise
something that happened last week today.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
He didn't do that. He didn't do that.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Donald Trump didn't say that. There is video that didn't
happen that did not know I mean, no, it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
My question, I'm wondering, well, two things. One is America
going to survive Donald Trump? That's up in the air
at this boy who knows, I mean, as far as
we know, in four years will be a full blown
Gilead from Handmaid's Tell. But setting that aside, let's say
we do survive it. Do you think that these well

(43:18):
meaning liberals and average white folk are actually going to
put two and two together and connect the dots between
the absolute idiocy of white supremacy and white supremacy in
general as the underlying problem because they see it. They
talk about it right now, they're tweeting it. You even

(43:39):
have some maggots and some magas who looked at his
speech at West Point last week and were like, oh,
my goodness, this is horrible. But then they always default
right back, because no matter what happens they see, they
default right back to, oh, he's Donald Trump, He's the
greatest he's the that so will they actually learn their lesson?

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Remember when there was this trend of people coming out
and speaking against Donald Trump after supporting him ninety nine
percent of time, and the one moment they're like, oh.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I I condemned Donald Trump. I speak you right, Yeah,
put that up.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Pressure in the game.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
I have a whole goal up here.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
I said, if we meet ten of it on my
on my if we meet ten in my goal, sorry,
this is a little this is a pause real quick.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
If we meet ten of super chats on my on
my chat, I will rest a little bit.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Nobody except for my one good sis you gay to
that they are you not my channel?

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Please go over to her channel and help support that
because I'm like here, I am like, man, I love
your audience, the black women and the audience.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
And then but my audience is good. Don't get it twisted.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
They good.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
They might not have it on today, but I'm just staying.
They was like, girl, no, you're not resting on.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
If any of you, as I was saying, you know,
it's funny that there were people who are out there
who I remember there was this trend of happening where
we had people on the right or Congress. People you
know who supported Donald Trump four years to told term,
voted for him, voting for him again, voted for all
these different laws that would go against constituents their own,

(45:24):
all kinds of things. And they would come up and
they would speak against Donald Trump all of a sudden,
and then they would make the headlines and then they
would sit. It was just like the bare minimum, and
people would be like, we knew, look what's going on.
We already knew, you know, And it's like m M, like,
like you know, Elizabeth, you know, Liz she Cheney, Like

(45:45):
we knew that you would get it, you know, And
if she's saying it, then there must be something. No,
she already knew, and she she was complicit every single time,
every single time. And so right now, people speaking out,
I don't want to hear any up anything about it,
because you're the reason why he You guys put a
battery in his back.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
You guys have helped this person move forward.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Right now.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
We're just looking for the loyal folks who are ready
to continue whether or not we see results today, to
continue to fight. And that's why I'm happy, even though
he can get cringey sometimes for the Jasmine Crocketts and
the even though he suspect right now, I ain't gonna
hold you, mister light skin Corey Booker.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Oh no, Corey book always been suspected me.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Mister Jersey.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
I'm like, so are we performing? Yes, it's giving performative.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Because listen, the only reason I supported the speech because
it was like, Okay, he's gonna break the record of
a racist Okay, bye, But I was always so I'm sorry,
go ahead.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
It's crazy because right now I know we're going off topic,
but there's so much that happened him is his support
of Jared Kushner being what was it?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
What's the role that he wants Jared Kushner to be?

Speaker 4 (47:00):
But basically he and he even had a statement saying
that he's the best pick. And it's like, really that
Jared Kushner from twenty sixteen collusion, Jerry Kushner. This are
we talking about the same And yes, we're talking about
the same.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Oh for Chushiner's father, voting for Jared Kushner's father.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Okay, Jared Christner's father.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
And the connection between all that they've gone through, what
they've done there goes you know, and this is politics,
but it's too crazy when you go a little too
close to the son. Now, I got a question, what's
going on? You want a little too close to the
thunder and it ain't still ain't giving you no ten.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
You talk about Corey's lack of ten, Corey ain't got it, Corey,
Corey is just one shade away from being Caucasian himself.
Maybe just one, just one accidental, just one accidental.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Get outside, but you so close to the sun and
it ain't happening.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
You lord, you, Oh my goodness, don't nobody get Mersy out?
Why you said nobody gets ursy on this channel. You
said it's a little cringing. You included jazz cracking and
the cringingess.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
And I love her and she's removed herself from some
of that stuff. But you know, I'm just saying, we
got some people with their head in the game. I
don't know I was gonna say Corey, but I'm like
Cory's out here. We can't trust nobody, but we need
people to at least trust I know, I know, guys,
hear me out. We can't trust nobody for real politics. However,

(48:33):
we gotta uplift the ones who can do something for
us in the meantime who are in position, and you
gotta make sure you vote locally because you're local. If
they ain't doing it on a state level, or excuse me,
on a national level, they may be able to do
it on a state level, they maybe do it on
a local level in your city. You gotta vote, you
gotta push it. You gotta make sure that this thing

(48:54):
is going to work in your favor. If the nation
ain't doing it, know that your person is doing it.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Also, see.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
Our good sis Nina Turner, you know, partnering with I
want to say, Robbie from the Hill Rising.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
And then they're creating a show. Oh, they're creating a show.
They are creating a show together.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
I think that it drops this week Thursday, and it
just reminds me of how Nina a great leader, a
great speaker, a woman you know after my own heart.
We've had her on the show a few times when
she was running for Congress.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Lover mean it.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
But even in these spaces, I feel like she's not protected.
She came from a space where we would have thought
that was progressive enough right t yt she had her
own show there.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
They didn't push sure enough. They didn't. They didn't validate
her enough, they.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Used her voice, and then what was done with her
over at T Y T and I don't want to
see that happen with her again. I think she is
a voice enough on her own to turn that camera on,
get her YouTube channel popping, and own her own.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Stuff at the time. I do, I absolutely do think that.
I think right now a lot of our really prominent
voices are partnering with people again who don't have.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
I would never sit with the whole what happens every
day on CNN, whom I love, Abby Phillips, and I
know that we need to see.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Conversations that are nuanced. I just think this season in our.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
In our lives as political leaders, as political talking heads,
as journalists, is what we don't have to put ourselves
in that position all the time.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
These people are not to be trusted. We saw what
happened with Eric Diyson when he got on there. We
saw love. We see what continues to happen with a.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Lot of people who challenge the right on these shows,
and the right really have nothing to say, but it
becomes argumentative.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
You are drained, You are yelling.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
Even in our own spaces where people want to be
so contrarian. We got Mark Lamont Hill in the space
I thought would be great for people to listen to
him and all the stuff I say.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
This man is losing his mind, veins is.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Popping out, He's stressed by his own So I say
this to say protect ourselves enough. That's why I always decline,
even though it probably would give me more views or
space or even a dollar or two. When I get
on and I challenge these right wing people, But baby,

(51:47):
I'm tired.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
What does that do for me? What does that do
for me? It doesn't give me anything. It doesn't do
anything for me.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
I want to say on the right side of things
in totality every single time, because the moment that I
buddy buddy or allow somebody, a right wing person to
say something and I don't agree with it and I
let it slide, or I either give it too much
and I'm angry and I'm going back and forth.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
It's I don't want that. It's not gonna be mad
about something.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
You're gonna see it on my channel on let's be clear,
you'll see me going off. But I'm not going to
challenge somebody me and somebody going back and forth that
you know a Republican pundit. Uh, you know a Republican
right wing talking head from the YouTube me and you
are not going to go back and forth. I'm not
gonna be on Piers Morgan where somebody is fixing their

(52:32):
mouth to say, nigga, it ain't happening. And I said
with an a they wanted to say with a hard
er because no, it's just not happening. I would never
be bathed into those things.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, it's none in this particular time.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Now, that was a different time in my life. I don't.
I don't. I definitely don't have the desire to do
that kind of work no more. Yeah, because you know,
when you when you're sitting across from someone whose job
is intentionally to lie at the highest level possible, what's
the point? Like, what are we here for? Just the
argument I got? But I don't argue with my children.

(53:09):
I definitely don't argue with my wife. I don't argue
with nobody I'm working with. Why am I going to
professionally take a job to rub my blood pressure up?

Speaker 2 (53:17):
No, we've done it already. We lived that life already.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
You know, disagreements turn into these full arguments, and it's
like we're this, ain't it like no, or we're with
people who are on the total opposite of what we're
what we're on and it we don't have to stop
putting yourself in those in those places.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
I think for Abbie Phillips, I love her.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
I love that she's grown, and we know that she
would be considered a DEI pick for CNN because of
what happened to her. We pushed her to the forefront
and CNM was like, we might as well give a show.
We didn't be so wrong, and they put her in
your position. They did the same thing with the Afro
Latino man.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
I forget his name. I don't see him no more.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
But he had a little segment too, the one that
was out there on the field getting disrespected every day
by you know, these people.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
I can't think his name, but I definitely remember that.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah, and we was giving it up for him, Yeah,
that man.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
So I don't like that that when she sits down,
she has to sit down with the ops almost every
every show. Yes, I know, I know journalism, I know
not you know, not being biased, I know, you know,
letting everybody speak and having all these different thoughts. Right now,
there's a truth to something being right, and there's a
truth to something being wrong.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
And when we give room to the wrong and have
the right, I ain't talking about the right. Republican.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
The people who are on the right side of things
come in and they are yelling, breaking their neck because
the person who's wrong simply says black people don't have
real history here at the table, or they'll say building

(55:05):
new construction. I think this was the latest one. Building
new construction or houses, or building roads and stuff, don't
go into don't bother black people. And the man was like, historically,
absolutely it does. All these major roads and stateways and
highways ran through old black land and black farmerge, and
then all of that stuff it affected black people. They

(55:27):
made sure to run these highways and through historical black communities,
and the ones the communities that are still standing are
no longer black, they're no longer affordable, just in the region.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
And the fact that one like you said, they used
imminent domain to take black lands to build every single highway.
What was left became traffic through all the eighteen wheelers,
all the highways, all the cars, all the pollution creating asthma,
health problems for all of the black communities that are
parently like, how do you not see this? Why I

(56:04):
don't discuss with them because their job. Again, No, because
I just know so many people personally who were physically
impacted by it. Not only did their grandparents lose their land.
When I'm ninety five was built through South Florida, right,
you know, because I mean that went right through every
black community that I've ever grew up in and hung

(56:26):
out with. So I know a lot of people right
there in that corridor. They lost their land, Their grandparents
lost their land, and then the grandchildren grew up with
asthma because they're now living right underneath the highway with
all of the pollution that comes from it. And then
you have people who just like Elung Musk and the
rest of them, who just completely erased that part of history.

(56:47):
There's no racism in the highways literally to this day.
There is a racial connection between where they chose the land,
where they took, who they took the land from, and
who's living with the aftermath of that land being taken
in highways being put in. But when you erase the history,
you can't say anything about it in the present.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
And the point of this whole conversation and even see
how it's always something within something is why am I
arguing this with somebody who is stuck on saying this
didn't happen?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
You know?

Speaker 2 (57:17):
And I agree, I agree with you, Keanu. Arguing is good.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
Having the conversation can be good, right, a nuanced one
like how we have on ole and friends.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
We don't all agree. We don't all agree.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
We're all black people from different parts of the internet,
sometimes influencers, journalists, lawyers, experts at whatever.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
We don't all agree.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
Yet when we get into the space, the way that
we can have the conversations can be respectful, where we
can agree to disagree, learn something from the person. Shut
up if we are going to come at them disrespectfully.
Those type of things. When I'm over here sitting and
a white man is telling me, no, no, that's not true.
There is no like you always want to make everything racist.

(58:02):
How are the highways and and and and you know
the state roads have anything to do with taking away
from black people? And you're stuck on that, and the
person is trying to tell you, well, it does actually,
and you're saying, no, it doesn't. The white people who
want to just commit to that not being a thing
with any without any reasoning or whatever.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Here we are trying to keep it cool.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
It actually does because this and you're saying it does not,
it doesn't gave examples to the person is still saying
it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
It doesn't.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
It's gonna piss me off because there are so many
people who are gonna follow this.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
It doesn't. It doesn't, It doesn't.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
Donald Trump is gonna repost that it doesn't. Clip to say,
good man there who knows his history nothing. It does
not affect black Americans. It doesn't affect black immigrants.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
It doesn't. It doesn't affect black folks in America. Mhm.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
The reason I can't do that kind of work anymore
is one because I'm entirely too small to slap the
people the way I want to slap them. When they
run those lines, I just you know, it's illegal, and
I'll be in jail and security probably throw me across
the room like a rag doll. You remember the episode
of Martin when he was boxing thummy Herns, And that's
how they do me, right. But sometimes arguing with people

(59:17):
whose job is intentionally to soul a lie into the
national conversation. The only real appropriate response is to slap
the taste out them out. So why are we having
these conversations with people whose job is to intentionally lie
to us like that? Now, I would say, if anything
is there, somebody has to be there to hold the

(59:37):
line against the line, or else the lie would just
go completely unchallenged. And that's why I praise I am grateful.
I praise God for Mark Lamont Hill because he's doing
the work that I certainly just would not want to do.
But at some point we got to break that paradigm
and say, Okay, we're no longer going to have these
arguments between somebody who's saying objective truth and someone who's

(59:58):
saying an outright life, and we can have a discussion
between people who disagree on how to fix the problem. Right,
I want those I want those arguments. Let's talk about
let's argue about policy. Should the tax rate be this
percent or this percentage point? Should this? You know, Like,
if we're going to argue about something, let's argue about solutions.
But I don't want to argue about truth.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
No, that's true. Okay, speaking of that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Education on Friday, I want to go back to education,
because there's two things I want to know because.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
We can, I say, but what you know about Pompino
darth raptor, That's that's where I grew with. Pompino is
my is my town, pump and O Beach. I went
to Eli High School. That's exactly when I was talking
about the highway going through our communities, I'm specifically visualizing
right there off of Pompingo, off of Copon near Coping's
near MLK. It just cuts right through the black community

(01:00:56):
and on either side you got a population of black
folks who are sick and have asthma and have all
kinds of impacts. Because the highway literally found the black
community used imminent domain, which means they don't have to
pay you a fair market value. They most of the
time they wouldn't. They could take your land, give you
a piece of money, and then the result is generations
of black folks who lost their land and lost access

(01:01:18):
to the built to clean air. But shout out to Pompino, Sorry,
now you're fine.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Shout out to pap Out to Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
I tried to stop Florida where you know, this is
the best, you know, the best people come from there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Like my camera have been talking. I should have kept talking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I was gonna I was gonna take a quick break
to change it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Do that, do that. I'll keep talking for you for
a second. Deerfield, my uh my, uh my girlfriend I
went to prom with. She went to Deerfield bed to
go to two proms, Eli Prom and then Deerfield be
chased to skip school a little bit and and go
borrow my brother's car and go drive over and take
my little girlfriend from Deerfield out for lunch. Let's see.
Let me give a couple of others. Oh you're back,

(01:01:58):
You're back number. I think it's really important learning to
love myself. She said this. Look at how Elon has
an AI plant in Memphis. This plant will affect the
black community. He's put the power plant for his AI
inside of a historically black community, and the effects that
they already know it's going to have on the black
folks there, it's just astonishing. And here's the thing. White

(01:02:21):
folks know this. That's why they will absolutely never let
this kind of stuff come to their neighborhoods. But it's
got to go somewhere. So what do they do? They
poison black communities. Look at cancer Alley in Louisiana. We
can just go community. Look at Flint, Michigan. The water
in Flint, Michigan, we can go to name come to
this day. The young girl she started off like younger

(01:02:42):
than my daughter Lizzie. Now she's about what twenty some
years old? Now? Yeah, still fighting Marie Copley or Mary
Copley's still fighting to get clean water in Flint, Michigan.
But here's the thing. Every single one of these are
being done in community specifically, and then we have people
paid professionally to go and seeing it and say, oh,

(01:03:05):
there's nothing racist about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
No education, No, I'm going to education. But I was
trying to see where I want to go with it
before I do get to it. If you guys haven't already,
make sure that you like you share and you have subscribed.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
The two hour channels.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
You got the Benjaminiction Show over on the Benjaminiction channel
and you can go and subscribe. Make sure you like
you share from my channel, Rebecca Azor. Did I tell
you guys that I'm on They recognize me as a
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Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Oh really, all you gonna do is Google mean and
it comes up. I come up like a public figure.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
I said, okay, after ten years, Okay, you know, my little,
my little I don't want to say my little following
because y'all on here, off what ane of y'all? Make
sure that you like, you share, and you subscribe. Please
do because each one of you guys are supporting and
moving forward. I am not ending the show. Stay right here.

(01:04:07):
We got another story that we want to cover. I
have two parts to this particular story because and they're
talking about Harvard. I got two parts to it because
in the same time frame, it's been a few days
after what happened at FAM, we got the situation with Harvard.
So I want to look at it through the eyes
of how one school gets so much praise and support
when they are going through something or being hit with.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
I love you, Rebecca. You will not let Nuance go
untalked about. You ain't gonna let Harvard get away with
being so victorious, and so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
I don't care. I don't, I will not. I won't.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
So recently, a temporary restraining order, this was on Friday
of last week. I'm a temporary restraining order was issued
by a federal judge blocking the Trump administration attempt to
revoke Harvard's ability to enroll international student that's racist in itself,
y'all know, So it blocked you know, you know, Trump

(01:05:03):
trying to get them to do so to make sure
that international students are not able to enroll into Harvard.
There's an attack on elite schools. And of course the
unqualified what's her name, Linda McMahon, walking around, can't spell,
don't know what education terms its supposed to be used.

(01:05:23):
She's the one that's the face of walking around here
heading these orders. So it was granted in response to
Harvard's lawsuit fouled against the administration. So Harvard had sued
Trump to prevent the you know, revocation of their certification
under the Student and Exchange Visitor Program the se VP,

(01:05:46):
and the court's action allows Harvard to continue enrolling international students.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
That's important.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
And there is right now an attempt to remove funding.
I think Jonald Trump wants to remove I think it's
one hundred million. He seeks to pull it an estimated
one hundred million from Harvard and funding. So you know,
once you mess with Donald Trump, he's gonna and he's
doing it, saying that there's anti semitism happening at the school.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
He doesn't want to be a part of it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Trying to find things reaching of course with dinosaur arms
and so there's nothing there. All of this stuff is
because they have the audacity to take it there. But
let's go and to fam you. Fam You has been attacked.
Not just recently, HBCUs have been attacked. Donald Trump had

(01:06:33):
said that he wanted to give money to HBCUs initially.
That was in the start of his presidency. And I'm
talking about this second term. I'm talking about in this
first and everybody's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Like, well, he did this for HBCUs.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
You gotta be careful to accept money from the ops
because once they do that, it's like I did this
for you, now you owe me. So HBCUs had said,
you know what, we don't even want your money no more.
Ronald de saantists came here. He attacked the HBCUs.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
He went after fam you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
This is before Larva Marva came into play. He attacked
HBCUs in a sense where they needed to stop teaching
about black history, which is really, like I said, it's
just it's not possible for an HBCU to do so.
He threatened the funding for those schools, so stop funding

(01:07:24):
the schools because they did not want to stop.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
So a lot of alumni came in together to continue
to fund the schools.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
And of course fam you we have amazing alumn And
with that being said, we just saw how the Ronald
the sand disappointee was placed in literally a day before
they traded out the Board of Trustees member to vote

(01:07:52):
for her. She was a write in the day after.
So there were other people who were nominated for the position.
Whoere else youll, who've already been interim all these things
who know education, who have graduated from HBCUs, who can
help move the HBCU further. I want to protect it

(01:08:13):
from people like Marva Johnson and her being a pick
from Ronald de Santis.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
I say all that to say Harvard.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
Has the ability, in their whiteness and their white privilege,
to fight back against Donald Trump's administration. Overnight, so many
people begin to fund and give to the university. Already
elite university that gets I'm not saying that FAMU is
not elite, but we always got to work ten times
harder to keep our excellent name, to keep our blackness golden,

(01:08:48):
to keep our talented tenth attitudes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
We gotta work ten times harder. People seen and heard
what happened at FAM.

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
You and we over here in the meeting for people
to give past outside of alumni, people to give and
continue to fund because we're going to need it for
the fight that we're about to have.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
But all because Harvard had the ability the money.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
To give to put a restraining order against the administration
to hire people to make sure that their international students
are protected. People thought that was amazing and they began
to give out of the wazoo. But it just goes
to show how they think about the attacks on HBCUs
and how they see the attacks on elite, predominantly white institutions.

(01:09:42):
And then we have our elite HBCUs being attacked. But
we gotta fight harder. We got to meet on zoom calls.
We gotta do all that. They didn't have to do nothing.
Theyn't gotta do nothing. We gotta work ten times harder.
But it just goes to show you the scope of
things how they don't care. And I'm talking about generally
the public doesn't see the value in an HBCU as

(01:10:05):
they see it within the PW both being attacked So
with that, I say, if you can head over to
uh fam you, please give please. We know that fam

(01:10:25):
you can't be bought, but we can't help continue to
fund it in this time that we are fighting for
our students, We're fighting for our alum, we're fighting for
our history. It is just as much as an elite
school as Harvard is. I know that the name Harvard
in the United States, which was once only white, is

(01:10:48):
a protected university. FAM you isn't protected. You know the
people that protected us as black people, but the nation
doesn't protect our university. We gotta fight for everything. So
in the same way that Harvard's being attacked and you
guys can see it and y'all want to give them
all the opportunity and say, yeah, y'all they fighting back,

(01:11:09):
we gotta we gotta give it up for Harvard. I
pray that y'all can find the same grace and covering
and wanting to protect an uplifting fund FAM You the
same way because we deserve it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
HM.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
So that was that's the history, that's the that's the
balancing act. That's that's the difference. See, Charlie, you right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Send in the donation so we can get our queen
a new camera that don't go out when she's cooking.
It's really my Yes, it's the batteries and I need
to get the plug to make sure it stays them open.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
The camera's great, but it's the computer, y'all. The computer.

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
I don't know if y'all can hear. It's overheat and
it's all the things that's really the problem. And it's
fly would have cut off at any moment, the internet,
and it's a whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
But thank you for pointing that out. I'm looking at
the comment section.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
We hold and we hold this ship together by tape
if necessary, we can't go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
It's take that, take that. No, but the cameras is
a one. It actually came from Ben.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
It's a one. This is one of the best cameras.
It's Sony, A six four hundred, very very good camera.
It's basically the battery. I need the little cord to
keep it. It's just the camera's great.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know, beg. I just I
just know it's the same game, same story, different day.
It's the same loop. And this is this is why
I feel like there's a whole faction of No. Let
me just let me like this. The white folks I
love and rock with are like antifa folks who literally

(01:12:56):
would get out there and put their money where their
mouth is, put their you know, uh, put their life,
their bodies online. They don't just you know, recognize the
threat of Donald Trump and then turn around and embolden
the same systems. Right, we need white folks who would
tear this system down. First, you got to understand that

(01:13:17):
the system is where it is. And I'm talking really
about what you're saying in Harvard and fam. You right,
it's the same thing that I asked you earlier. You
think about all these well meaning white liberals who know
Donald Trump is a fascist, but they won't connect that
fascism to white supremacy, and so they're gonna let it
keep repeating over and over and over again. And I
know that there are plenty of matter of fact, I

(01:13:38):
was talking to my pastor, Pastor Robinson, and he said,
he said, you know, the Lord has showed him that
there's a whole new generation of abolitionists in the spirit
of John Brown. And he said, I just you know,
but the Lord didn't like show him where He's like,
I don't know where they are I just bleed they
out there, and I said, I know where they are at,

(01:13:58):
Santifa there and there are plenty of anti fascist white
folks out there who understand and are willing to put
themselves out there to literally fight the system that they
could turn around and benefit from. Right that they do
benefit from, and they kind of reject that benefit. But
then there's this whole other batch of white folks, most
of them inside of the Democratic prop Party proper, like

(01:14:21):
they're like good Democrats and they hate Donald Trump, and
they're gonna fight Donald Trump with all they have except
for the white supremacy aspect. They're gonna fight him on democracy,
They're gonna fight them on fascism, but they won't connect
the white supremacy to the whole thing. Same folks they're
gonna send their money to suppoor Harvard, but they're not
gonna see what's happening to the black universities. And so

(01:14:44):
it's like, we we need more, We need more radical
white folks who know what honest time it is, because
we are we are gonna need allies to survive and
win this fight. But I just got this real icky
feeling that there's gonna be plenty of Democrats who once
they realize it's white supremacy that's the real problem, they're

(01:15:04):
gonna side with white supremacy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Absolutely because it benefits them.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
I want people to know that white supremacy, if you function,
especially if you white, you benefit from it and you
can tap into it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
But it's the people who will use it for good.
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
It's like you know some kind of witchcraftory, but you
will use it for good or you'll be like, you'll
turn on us your grift because it's easy for you,
the few black people who have grifted.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
I know it pays. It pays to sell your soul.
It pays.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
I say that, I say that to myself. I'm trying
to I'm trying to speak that against my heart.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
It pays.

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
It pays.

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
Who boy doesn't pay. But if you have your heart
in the right place and you really want to fight
the fight, join in right, join in.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
And we need you to be radical. We don't need
you to go to the the rallies and and and
the protests and look for bounty houses.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
You ain't gonna let that white lady live that down.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Never.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
She doesn't deserve to live it down, because she she
was so mad, like I can't want my child to
have a bounty house.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
And then uh, the.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
People on the conversation baby, I should have put included
day comments because it was us riding her, but it
was and it was also me trying to say, hey,
you got this wrong, syst and it was her saying
I don't think I did, Like I think that I should.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Be able to like say, you know what I wanted there?
Oh my god, like people are getting.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
So mad and but her, So a girl came in
there and says, I actually see what you're trying to say,
Like I do, I really see what you're trying to say.
And basically it's that like you were looking for more
of a situation that was like beneficial for you and
your child. I know we're fighting for and against fascis
up and praise says up and all those things, but

(01:17:09):
like your kid needs to be.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Watched and in a safe environment, you know. So I
totally get it. I totally get it. They want to
come at you, but I totally get it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
And white men with big platforms, we're coming in there
attacking us for speaking at her, you know, and telling
her you got this wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
White people will use it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
I told you, they'll be out there in the mix
and then come online give a grievance that is totally terrible.
And then when we try to say, hey, that was wrong,
use their white power and call out the white men.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
I don't know that was funny to me, because why
would I do that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
It's how you turned to the side. What is what
you said, is how you said and how you're acting
it out. I can't stand you do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Then you know they're gonna call him and it's because
it's Caucasus.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
They call him from the they call him to the Mount,
the Mount Caucasus, right, and then they and then the
white people just come and it be white men, and
they come and attack, and they come and attack black
voices and particularly black female voices.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
And that's what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
So he came and he was just going off on
everybody and with his big blatform and attacking folks. And
because this woman said what she said and because we
were clearing her, white folks get away with it, she
used her white tears or virtual white tears.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
And that's what happens. That's what always happens.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
You think that they're being an ally and this is
why I said, so it's so hard to trust y'all.
And and it's people in the audio into it's not no,
no shade to you. It's because of what's been happening.
We allow people in and it turns out that they
were never they were they were t y t the
whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
That's the day. What is what is?

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
What is that?

Speaker 7 (01:19:13):
That?

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
That's a literary device that you just use and it
is like, my goodness, t YT has become the way
to communicate treachery. Wow, that's the shorthand. It's the mean
way of saying, betray your people. You did a t
y T on us.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Yeah, they use us for clout, to build up things,
to build their platform. And as soon as they get
the opportunity to grift because it pays, because it pays,
then there they are.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
They're being ran by or they're filming.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
Out of the crypto whatever market studios, Yes, studios, and
so now that's where the money is.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
And so somebody just said that earlier in the chat
broadcasting live from the poly market studios.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
And they got to say it every time they get
on there. Yes, everything that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
That's that's that and and I and I hope and
I know, see that's why I like, That's why I
like folks. This, this is why I rock with so
many folks from the trans community, who's Charlie just mentioned
happened to absolutely be like really deep and Antifa because like,

(01:20:23):
there's a there's a there's a fight that they've already
had to fight in society and it's kind of encoded
in their head. I'm more and I'm saying this. I'm
saying all this to not come at our audience that
that we got a lot of white folks. But but
when you have seen white progressives switch out and go

(01:20:48):
from being covering what's our boy name, the football star
San Francisco that we used to cover up at that
store and at that place, and that uh the technie
the black Kaepernick.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Oh oh look you mean which one you should have said?

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Yeah? Right, So when you when you go from a
season where progressives and liberals and white folks are all
about black power and black life and black lives Matter
and standing up for Colin Kaepernick and all that stuff,
and then you see them switch on the dime to
being like, oh that's too black. We ain't got we

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can't cover that. Let's not talk about that, let's push
that aside. You kind of get you're not even shell shock.
You get really familiar with, Oh, this is what y'all do.
And this is why I kind of like I rock
with the folks who're like, no, not only are we
not going to do that, but we'll get out on
the street and we will bust you in the face
for trying it. That's the kind of white folks that
we need. And I'm not advocating for violence, but let's

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just be real, right, we're talking about people who one
group of white progressives and liberals who are going to
follow the money and all of their comfort and they
will betray so many of their comrades. And then and
then I believe that there's a group that it's like

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they've gone through enough mess and crap in their life
where they're like, not only are we not going to
betray black folks, We still keep our own, y'all, But
not only are we we're gonna stand with black folks,
but we'll we'll be about it and we'll get out
in the streets. That that's a dividing line for me, like,
either you are going to be an ally who stands
with us when it gets ugly and go all the
way with us like John Brown if necessary, Or you're

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gonna be like t White. Are you gonna be like Destiny?
Are you gonna be like Vosh? You're gonna be like
all these people out here who capitalize when it was
popular on blackness and then are just as opposition on
the blackness now as they could possibly be.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Opposition of blackness. And I hate to do this doesn't
only come from y'all that we talk about. We don't
want to attack it, but we just don't trust right,
that's just right now, we got to we just just
show up, do what you need to do.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
That's it now. It don't only come from yatto. We
got both that are run in these spaces. And I
want to call one out you Ben.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
You mentioned the lgbt Q I A plus who's constantly
getting attacked for whatever reason, especially right now. They're also
major marginalized group that Donald Trump is using, uh to
bait in lots of people to attack them. Uh So
this is a particular situation that happened in that happened

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on of course the breakfast club.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
And I think the breakfast club is a great like.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
Platform that can do better, and I know they can
because Charlott Magne actually has done great work. But I
think in the last few years what happens grifting bays,
grifting bays and so bringing in influencers who really don't
care to have actual nuanced COMversations outside of what they

(01:24:02):
give and no offense to the TikTok environment where it's quick,
where it's fast, where you you know, and it's not
always safe.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
So here we are discussing Linee. I want to say
her name is Linee. Yes, it is.

Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
Y'all know her from the parking lot. She does the
parking lot stuff. It's beautiful and I love it. But
she talks about politics, she talks about religion, she talks
about you know, entertainment. She talks about a lot of
things in one but she makes the very nuance and
she gives it in a very poetic type style. Kind
of reminds me of the Preacher Jackie Hill Perry. It
gives it in a very poetic type style. And she's

(01:24:39):
on the Breakfast Club because her her new show just
dropped on Revolt.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
I want to say it's Revoke.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Yeah, her new shold just dropped on the Revolte so
she passed by the Breakfast Club, which is also works
with Revolte as well. And in this interview, she's talking
about the man that she would like because of who
she is, right, she's a public figure within politics and
things of that sort, and she says that she wants
her man to be more of a progressive person.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Just hilarious, that's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
She comes in, Jess with a mess. She comes in
and says, well, make sure the dude knows that women
can have babies. Only women can have babies. But it
was what Lenae said next that I think deserves to
be highlighted because it wasn't with harsh and with emotion.
She wasn't an angry black woman. She wasn't somebody who

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was trying to cater to Jess. She came there with
the same vibes she gives on her show. And that's
so smoothly, be smooth, here's the facts.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Yeah, that is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Yeah, and let's say, listen, have some.

Speaker 7 (01:25:43):
Things ingrained in the way that you move about your day.
So you do have to have some things ingrained in
the way that you move about your day period to
understand that the work never stops so she's gonna find
that balance.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
And for you, I want somebody who knows that women
can have babies. Only women can have babies. I just
don't let you know that interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:26:03):
There are other people who can have babies. Okay, yeah,
I mean they have a uterus, they can have babies,
but they just might identify as a woman. Two different things,
Like you can be biologically female, but you can't be
biologically woman. This woman is a gender construct opacial construct.
If you got a U, you can have a baby.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Yes, that's the point. If you have a uterus, you
can have a baby.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Okay, that wasn't on that, That wasn't what you're doing,
because she was cleared in a way where it's like, hey,
here's the fact.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
That's not what you came in with. That was you
came in that only women can have babies.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Which which which you want to throw back remember because
that was like that was her big foray back into
the spot. Like she used that as a way to
create a whole bunch of mess and drama. And what
I really appreciate about what Lene did here, right, she
in like less than forty seconds, actually probably in like
twenty words or less, she really just explained, Hey, woman

(01:27:04):
is a social construct. Uterus is the mechanisms. There's plenty
of women with the uteruses, or or there's plenty of individuals.
What is the plural? Police help me somebody uterie? I
don't know, but they have the capacity, but they don't
identify as a woman. Done. That's the whole conversation to me, right.
But Jess wanted to be messy like she always is,

(01:27:25):
wanted to relive her highlights of making all that mess
she made around her comments about the trans community.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
So anyway, she absolutely got onto this platform and the
first thing they did was had that type of conversation
in the packaging of the rollout for her being on
the breakfast club.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
It was a part of it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
The conversations always led into trans to the point where T. S.
Madison had to come out and she had to speak
against the conversations that were being had there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
The you know, and I don't. I don't like that
this was unnecessary and thrown out there, but I do
love when the.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
Response was given the way it was. Here's the facts.
I don't gonna yell at I'm not gonna yell at you.
I'm not gonna attack you. I'm gonna just give you
the facts and that's it. So the point where it
forced Jess to have to agree, even though she really disagreed,
because what can you say about that your point that

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you wanted to make was now debunked?

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
What can you say twelve words like and and and
she brought she made like Jess was trying to say
at the end, and you caught it out already, but
I just want to point out again she was just
to say, Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. No,
that wasn't That's not what you would try to say.
You would try to make another moment. And here's here's
the thing. Why try to make that woman at the

(01:28:54):
moment at the expense of this black sister here? Like
where where where did it even enter into the conversation?
Like where did they even have rumors? Like out of
the blue? She said, here, let me put this on
the table, because she said that she wanted a man
in her life that was progressive, and I guess progressive
values include support for the lgbt Q IA the trans
community as well, and so she just felt like, oh,

(01:29:15):
here's a good place for me to be messy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Absolutely, and.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
It wasn't It was a perfect place for an example
to be made out of your mass.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
And this is why I said what I said before.
You know, you have thoughts, they.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
Don't always have to come to the table, especially in
this moment. You are there to interview have conversations. This
could have been a great time for you to ask
questions about that. Maybe, like, even if you don't agree
with it, this could have been a great can you
can you better help me understand because I know everybody
likes to get on me by my comments.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
About the trans community. Whatever it could have been, it
could have been.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
A better conversation you could have had and still dealt
with sho how you think we got to stop going
in these rooms acting like just what the mess works?
When you're interviewing somebody who goes against who can go
against everything that you stand for, it's negative against the
community of people.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
And ultimately, just what difference does it make to you?
Just what impact on your life does that conversation have?
Why contribute to the smallest percentage of Americans who are
targeted by the biggest percentage of Americans. Lit'ten remember the

(01:30:33):
entire and it's not remembered. It's still going on, right,
trans athletes and sports, it's like nineteen, there's like nineteen
trans women who compete in sports across this entire country.
Yet we have one hundred twenty five million people actively
going after them like it's the greatest threat to humanity.
And I sit back and look at that nineteen people

(01:30:55):
against half the population, and probably a little bit more
because they all been watching Candis Owns and just hilarious. Right,
They've been watching and feeding off this hatred towards the
transc community. So you've got this really small segment of
society who is targeted by the biggest segment of society.
And what literal difference or benefit is it gonna make
in any of their lives? Literally nothing. All it is

(01:31:17):
is giving people a place and a group to target
and say, hey, there's our target group for this week,
for this year, for the last three years. Let's hate
them with everything that we can hate them with. And
then whether they do after that, it always spills over
from that community to the next. It don't stay in
one community if you empower it. Just if you empower
this by pushing hatred towards the LGBTQIA community, don't look

(01:31:42):
surprised when it turns up and it's coming right back
in your face because you're a black woman, and somebody
could look at her and say you don't have the features.
Of matter of fact, they do say that. They look
at her features and they say that she ain't woman
because she don't have the European woman looks. She don't
have the features of a war that they won't and
so they gonna say that she's a man like. They

(01:32:03):
try to say that about Britney Griner, about any number.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
The money Ben you actually got it on the money.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
While I think Jets hilarious is absolutely beautiful, the standards
of European beauty, she doesn't match it, and you know,
especially in America, so she's considered a manly looking woman.
And again that's not my take. I think Jess is
actually fine. I like her body, I like her face,
I like her features. I think she has features that

(01:32:33):
a lot of others.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Will get work to fix to get. She's rergeous to me.

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
I don't like the way that she attacks chance community
when so many of people in this nation will look
at her and say, oh, you are because she has
strong she's strong, she's nice and fit, they're gonna say
it's too manly mm hmm, the way that she gives
it up because where she's from too manly, too masculine.

(01:33:02):
And I think that that's why she clings to the idea,
not the camera going out again, That's why she clings
to the idea of.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
I gotta show that I'm a woman.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
I got a woman, you know, and so let me
attack the ones that want to fake being women, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
And it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
You stopped in the middle of a sentence.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
The batteries is dving.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
But how stupid is that, right? How stupid is to
say because she is attacked for not being woman looking enough?
And wait, let me let me start here. There's not
a beautiful black woman on the face of this planet
that white supremacy won't look at and say, you ain't
woman enough. I don't care how fine they are, I

(01:33:58):
don't care how many times tis white women go and
get their lips shot up, to get their lips as
voluptuous as just hilarious as lips. Right, But then they'll
turn around and say, yes, you ain't woman enough. They
will they will go and get butt injections to get
the butt to look like just hilarious is and then
they'll turn around and say, yes, you ain't woman enough.
They want all of our features. And they will then

(01:34:20):
turn around and say simply because you are black, you
are not woman enough. Now, how absolutely stupid, Jess is
it for you to then turn around and say, okay, here,
I'm gonna protect myself, but I'm gonna attack those women
as they're not women enough. That person they are the problem,
not me. The whole time, it had never it never
was about you not being woman enough. It was about

(01:34:40):
the fact that you were black. And now you extending it.
You are helping the very people who look at you
and say you ain't woman enough by you turn around
and attacking the LGBTQI community. It makes no sense to me.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
It absolutely makes no sense.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
And also we have to understand that when they are
in these spaces, they are doing the work for the
white supremacist They are doing the work that you know,
for the misogynists.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
They're doing the work.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
So if we continue and it comes from a woman,
you know, it's like, okay, she said it. When I
was talking to Ola about this, I think there's this
big and I actually had a conversation where they came in.
Her audience came after me for me disagreeing with how
she was handling Laura le Rossa from that platform, and

(01:35:28):
her audience came after me. They were just hilarious because
I spoke, I said, when somebody walks around and beaten
and is a nasty person, and then they're crying about
how this institution that you're working for, which again I
like the breakfast club, but I don't like where where
their direction is headed. So when you're working for this
institution that that functions under misogyny right now, that literally

(01:35:49):
functions under that, and it's been protecting you when it
no longer serves you, and now you are upset because
it's now protecting somebody else, another person, and you're upset
about it. You been protected by this, and you've been
functioning it. You've been functioning in it. You've been utilizing verbiage,
putting out, spewing out some hurtful things.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
About marginalized communities.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
This it doesn't stop at trans I remember, and again
I'm a forgiving person. I recalled during the pandemic, or
right before the pandemic. I want to say, when she
was on a plane going live, sitting next to a
Middle Eastern looking person and got upset and said she
doesn't feel safe. She began to stream this, yelled it
out and said she doesn't care what people think. She

(01:36:31):
doesn't feel safe because there is a Middle Eastern person.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Who was on the plane ignorant.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
Do you understand it doesn't stop at the trans it
becomes racist. You are attacking different communities of people.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
And now you're upset. And that's what I was saying.
It ain't you benefit from this this system.

Speaker 4 (01:36:53):
You benefit from these online mindset, these people, the selations,
people online who like the drama and the mess and
all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
You benefit from that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
But when you get in faces like this where serious
people are gonna come and your you've been catered to
be small minded because your takes are supposed to be
the contrarian takes, and you can scare people out of positions,
and you can do all this, but the moment it
no longer serves you. Right, we mustn't align ourselves with you.
I said no, absolutely not, And people were upset with

(01:37:24):
me about that, and they said I was jealous, and
then I was going out. I just can't stand here.
I said, no, if you got hate in your heart,
and you've been walking around and the same things that
you are saying is happening to you, you are doing
to other people. I cannot give you any grace, and
I'm somebody who gives everybody grace. I'm a forgiving person.
And she has done so many different things. I can't
talk about her looks because jess Larious is fine. I
can talk about her bag because she gets one.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
I can't talk.

Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
About none of that because she stayed with a job.
But what I will say is she's problematic in that
way she is, and it pays to be problematic.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
Sorry, Ben, No, hang on, okay, yeah no, Justelarius Okay.
I just had to go confirm that just Selaire's was
fine because I really never really paid attention to it
like that. Ever. I just had to google say just Silaires, okay, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
One thing about it, one thing about it, rebec.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
I ain't no hatter if ever there's any issue, and
I don't ever want to have issue with any of
the girls online. So sometimes I keep my mouth shut
about things because people are so sensitive and whatever. Be
a whole group of woman attacked me because I had
a different opinion about a show that we were watching,
which is Forever on Netflix, which I love a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
You know, a woman with like blue.

Speaker 4 (01:38:33):
Chat marks who know that I'm in the space too,
try to come against me for having a different opinion
about something about characters in.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
The show, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
And so even with that, I'm always careful because online
can get really messy, real fast. I don't like to
be a part of the mess I don't want to be,
especially when it comes to these other black women in
the space. But one thing I ain't is no hater.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
I ain't. I actually think just hilarious can be funny.

Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
But because you now your jokes center to attack marginalized people,
and then outside of it being your jokes in your
actual real reality day to day, how your your thought
process is against marginalized communities and you're a part of
one as well, I can't mess with it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
I can't market it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
People who are a part of marginalized communities who turn
around and attack other marginalized communities, they give me hives.
They made me itch like. It's like, how dumb are you?
How how fooled are you by this system? To think
for a split second that you attacking another group is
going to protect you in this space. The only way

(01:39:41):
through this is for all of us. And this is
why you know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit
here and pretend like I've always been good on trans
issues or even the lgbtq I a community. And I
can't blame I can't blame the church on that because,
like you know, growing up in my dad's church, my
dad ain't never My dad ain't never come after the
lgbtqu He never attacked them like nothing like that. I
think I just got it hanging around, pumping on and

(01:40:02):
it was just like, you know, it was a time,
and it was time in the nineties where you know
they used to say, you know, just drop the F
word in movies, like one of my favorite movies, Bill
and Ted Excellent Adventure, they dropped it in it. It
was just we grew up homophobic, right, So I'm not
saying this like I'm the the most perfect ally to
the LGBTQIA community. But what I did do and take

(01:40:23):
time to think about, was the fact that I'm spending
energy being mad or going after them, taking away from
my energy that I need to be going after white supremacy,
right me throwing my energy going behind and attacking somebody else,
it undermines me in the long run. And then finally
I actually studied the Bible, and I realized that I

(01:40:43):
have a spiritual mandate to stand on behalf of marginalized
communities wherever they are, no matter where they are and
how they show up, if they are targeted for threat
and harassment and oppression, that's the group we're gonna side
with everywhere. I don't care who they are. If you
the lgbt QUI community, I'm signing with you, the guys,

(01:41:05):
that's why. Of course I'm aside with the Palestinians. Of
course we are. Of course we're gonna stand with yeomen.
Of course we're gonna stand with Congo. Of course we're
gonna stand with with Sedan. Like that, It's a very
simple and accurate principle. Wherever they're oppressed are, that's who
we're gonna stand with.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
And then you can take it down now, because I
know they're gonna hit us for even playing the breakfast
club on here.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
They gonna let us right. They ain't hit us yet,
Oh no, they hit They always hit me.

Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
After the fact that I have to take it out
of the live and people be missing that this great
moment that we're talking about because whatever that that we
use their stuff, they definitely hit us on YouTube anywhere else.
Is so funny because they won't hit them on threads
they all over the place. They well, threads don't pay
no more, threads are not paying more. They will They
won't hit anybody else anywhere else, but they will hit

(01:41:53):
us on YouTube. But you know, to those who are
catching this live, you're seeing it. You got the first DIBs. Ben,
that's a great you know, place to to to definitely
be at. We are going to support. We have a
duty to support and protect marginalized communities. As a marginalized community.
Now you putting it back up as a marginalized community.
That's what I as a marginalized community, and that's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
What we do here.

Speaker 4 (01:42:16):
I always say, you know, no matter what, even as
I say in the in the Little Clippi commercial that
we played before this, you know it's for us, by us,
even when they want us to look the other way,
We're still gonna be talking about what we need to
talk about here when it comes to our people, Wherever
our people are, whatever our people represent, wherever our people

(01:42:38):
staying and they ain't bothering nobody. We're gonna make sure
we got you protected over here. With that being said,
we are at the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
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Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
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I need your support as I am. This is all

(01:43:22):
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I can't. I don't like can. I have so bad.

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It's what's bad. It's so hard for people to ask
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for you. But here we go, folks, I need at

(01:43:56):
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Go, let go from two different jobs. One of them
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work anymore, like they were like, oh, we know who

(01:45:12):
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Thank you so much for your super chat of twenty
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I love your face saying Rebecca, I am so tired.
I've been feeling so defeated and like I don't belong
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Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
Child, just rebuke that you don't only belong here, and
you don't belong here but black folks deserve to run
this nation. We know that we especially black women. That's
a whole other episode. I got to talk to you
about that too. But we need black women leadership. Not
only do you belong here, but we need you to
help lead this nation.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
You belong here and you definitely belonger. Tiger.

Speaker 4 (01:46:21):
I really appreciate you. We thank you for even being
a part of the family. I got you, says, go
catch some disease.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
Thank you. I really appreciate him. Coach Dog, thank y'all
for what y'all do, and thank you for being here
with us as well. Tiger.

Speaker 4 (01:46:35):
Once again, Corey Booker gives problematic nerdy light skin energy.
That's a thing other fellow black nerds gonna know what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
Ah, Okay now, Rebecca, Unfortunately these next ones came to
my channel. Y's Okay, Carrie Shaw, thank you for the
twenty dollars the super chat. Please rest so that you
can record your song for Ben. Yes, yes, we need
We were standing in black woman's solidarity over the next
over the summer. So if it's not this Sunday, Rebecca,
we need you to lead a prasy worship song for me, right,

(01:47:07):
he said, stop asking Dixon, you keep.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
Basking, Okay, man, I got you, I got you, I
got you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:12):
Y muse, thank you for the ten dollars, super chat
our supersticker. Rather and then Evan Alexander, I'm like twenty
minute behind, and I want to know if you made
it to ten yet.

Speaker 4 (01:47:20):
I didn't make it to ten. I didn't make it
to ten. I'm only at four, but I appreciate our
four for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
Thank you that far?

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
All right, Rebecca?

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
All right? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:47:31):
And then I do want to set out Marcus Marcus Chandler.
I hope I can say. I don't know just last
initial Marcus C gave me a late happy birthday, but
I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
And happy related to you. I know it was your birthday.

Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
You're celebrating that, Marcus, So happy birthday to anybody celebrating
in this month, but the one who was you know,
tourists like me because right now is Jemini season.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
And happy related to my sister as well. Listen, thank you.
I love coming on.

Speaker 4 (01:47:58):
This actually feels so great every time I get on
with you, So thank you Ben for holding it down
when you do.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
We'll see you guys on Saturday. All right. One Saturday morning.
Love you mean it. I'll see you guys next time.

Speaker 4 (01:48:11):
Work that we're doing here is not gonna stop when
it comes to these type of discussions. It's gonna be
for us and by us here on this platform when
the media is telling us to look the other way.
Your support is what helps us move forward. Join picture
on dot com, forward slashtake it or not, help us grow.

Speaker 5 (01:48:41):
Start shows in the house.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
You know she got a funny story to tell you.
Talk to politics coach on your Life is spun. I
live in life in the eight year Benjamin, Yeah, that's

Speaker 7 (01:49:08):
Mhm.

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